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exotica-digest Tuesday, February 23 1999 Volume 02 : Number 330
In This Digest:
Re: (exotica) Barbarella, Bob Thiele and Bob Crewe
Re: (exotica) FS/Dino/SD Summit Cd - Follow Up Folow Up
(exotica) Ondes Martenot
Re: Re: (exotica) Barbarella
Re: Re: (exotica) Barbarella
Re: (exotica) Barbarella
(exotica) Ondes Martenot
(exotica) Mackey Feary, Shirley Stoler obits
(exotica) exotic Iceland
(exotica) tv is bad for your eyes
(exotica) Melancholy Serenade
(exotica) Taboo tiki 2
(exotica) Smith, Scott, sorry!
(exotica) Easy/Sequel
(exotica) Desco/Wagram Records
(exotica) Messiaen
Re: (exotica) 2 CD Capitol Gleason v. Denny v. Baxter
Re: (exotica) Easy/Sequel
(exotica) My ebay Story
Re: (exotica) Barbarella, Bob Thiele and Bob Crewe
Re: Re: (exotica) Barbarella
Re: (exotica) Barbarella
Re: (exotica)made to order- Gleason v. Denny v. Baxter
(exotica) (review, long) Upon seeing Little Jimmy Scott at Borders...
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:24:54 EST
From: LTepedino@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella, Bob Thiele and Bob Crewe
In a message dated 2/22/99 3:10:42 PM EST, dciccone@inspex.com writes:
<< >Actually the writing credit on "Melancholy Serenade" is "Gleason" and the
>tune does have a kind of TV-theme show sound. So could this have been
>Jackie Gleason's TV-theme just made cooler? It does sound kind of
familiar...
Jackie Gleason did write the song. It's been a long time but I believe it's
the theme to "The Honeymooners". He was almost proud of the fact he could
not read music but could compose songs.
>>
Actually, "Melancholy Serenade" is the theme song to the Jackie Gleason
variety show. "You're My Greatest love" is the theme song to "The
Honeymooners."
Ashley
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:36:28 EST
From: LTepedino@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) FS/Dino/SD Summit Cd - Follow Up Folow Up
In a message dated 2/22/99 11:45:13 PM EST, mighty65@pacbell.net writes:
<< Felt I needed a follow up, as I trumpeted how amazing *the original
release*
was...assuming the re-release would be the same show, unedited. Spoke too
soon. >>
The vinyl version is 11 minutes longer -- the problem here is that the label
didn't want to have to go two a two disc set like the bootleg. Can you or
anyone really confirm that this is a different show as I was under the
impression that this was the same, stemming from the recording that Sinatra's
record company Reprise made in anticipation of releasing, but decided not to
(hence the professional recording quality). BTW this was Sam Giancana's club
and the Rat Pack had to perform there for free as payback to the supposed
labor votes Gianacarna won in the South JFK needed to get elected. There were
so many mobsters in that show at the Villa Venice (which also had an illegal
casino in the back) that Dino wanted to call the album "The Mob's Greatest
Hits"! Also of note, the next day Sinatra and company, also as part of the
payback, recorded a series of car commercials with new lyrics written to their
hits like "Come Fly With Me," and "Kick In The Head" for Pete Epstein Pontiac
(Sam Giancana's car dealership - under a stooge's name!). These recordings can
be heard as the additional tracks on the Dean Martin "live At The Sands" CD
bootleg.
Ashley
Ashley
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:23:40 +0000
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <dbrogdon@falcon.cc.ukans.edu>
Subject: (exotica) Ondes Martenot
Seems to me I've got some movie music LPs someplace where the Ondes
Martenot was used in place of the Theremin. I distinctly remember
the liner notes implying that no one knew how to play Theremin
anymore (!), so the Ondes Martenot was substituted instead. This
would have been sometime in the early '70s. Maybe it was one of
those National Philharmonic movie LPs that started coming out around
1972 or thereabouts?
Darrell Brogdon
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:33:29 EST
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Barbarella
In a message dated 2/23/99 6:50:20 AM, exotica@munich.netsurf.de wrote:
>I think good film music never illustrates a movie 1 to 1; it rather adds
>the things that you cannot see, sometimes to an extend that it literally
becomes
>the opposite of what you see.
Exactly--did anyone ever actually WATCH "Shaft?" The film is absolutely un-
compelling, but the music is gripping (as in many Blacksploitation flicks)
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:37:27 EST
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Barbarella
In a message dated 2/23/99 8:18:44 AM, petehip@cogsci.ed.ac.uk wrote:
>An interesting side-thingummy to this discussion is provided by the
>liner notes of Frank Zappa's "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore
>Vol. 5" (I think), in which he mentions that he had a meeting with
>Vadim to discuss the possibility of him supplying the music for
>Barbarella. I've been trying to imagine it... I can't.
Frank Zappa was in his most creative period at the time of Barbarella. In
fact, he had probably just finished writing and arranging "Peaches En Regalia"
for the
"Hot Rats" LP. I can imagine him doing a soundtrack for Barbarella, especially
after pondering the disconnection listers notice between the action and the
music of the Crewe score. And can "200 Motels" be far behind?
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:07:06 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <petehip@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella
> In a message dated 2/23/99 8:18:44 AM, petehip@cogsci.ed.ac.uk wrote:
>
> >An interesting side-thingummy to this discussion is provided by the
> >liner notes of Frank Zappa's "You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore
> >Vol. 5" (I think), in which he mentions that he had a meeting with
> >Vadim to discuss the possibility of him supplying the music for
> >Barbarella. I've been trying to imagine it... I can't.
>
> Frank Zappa was in his most creative period at the time of
> Barbarella. In fact, he had probably just finished writing and
> arranging "Peaches En Regalia" for the "Hot Rats" LP. I can imagine
> him doing a soundtrack for Barbarella, especially after pondering
> the disconnection listers notice between the action and the
> music of the Crewe score. And can "200 Motels" be far behind?
Barbarella dates from 1968, the meeting was I think during a '67
European tour with the original Mothers, so definitely before the Hot
Rats stage. Imagine Jane Fonda stripping off to the strains of "Zolar
Czakl" and we're set to redefine film history!
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:42:37 -0600
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) Ondes Martenot
At 08:23 AM 2/23/99 +0000, Darrell wrote:
>
>Seems to me I've got some movie music LPs someplace where the Ondes
>Martenot was used in place of the Theremin.
Listen to just about any Elmer Bernstein score and chances are you'll hear
an Ondes Martenot in there somewhere.
- -Lou
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:38:06 -0600
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) Mackey Feary, Shirley Stoler obits
This from the 2/22/99 Honolulu Star Bulletin:
The drug "ice" brought beloved singer Mackey Feary Jr. down as an
ordinary man with human frailties, his friends said. Fellow musicians and
fans are reeling at the death of Feary, of the local group Kalapana, who
hanged himself with a bedsheet Saturday in his Halawa Correctional Facility
cell.
"Mackey was a one-of-a-kind musician, an idol to many, a child star, a
self-made legend in Hawaiian music. What took him down was the drug scene,"
said Malani Bilyeu, a guitar player with Kalapana, from his Kauai home
yesterday.
"Drugs will strike anybody; it doesn't matter who you are. He had
everything," said Bilyeu, who said he fought his own drug war and has been
sober for eight years. "I will miss him. He was a big part of the music
scene, like Iz," he said, referring to Israel Kamakawiwo'ole, who died in 1997.
Members of Kalapana expressed anger through their tears that Feary, 43,
didn't turn to them for help.
"It's sad because I'm a friend right here," Bilyeu said. "Why didn't he
talk to me?"
Cecilio Rodriguez, of the group Cecilio and Kapono, found out about
Feary's suicide from a Guam customs official as he returned to Hawaii from a
gig in Japan.
"It hit me in the stomach. I was angry. Mackey, don't you know you have
friends around you that care for you?" said Rodriguez, choking back sobs. "I
said, 'I've got to go home and think about this.'"
Feary's family seemed concerned that prison guards left the singer alone
in his cell, given his depressed state, said Gaylord Holomalia, who played
keyboards with Kalapana.
A relative, Rodney Feary, said the family wasn't ready to talk about his
death.
All the friends who offered their support and the chances the courts
gave Feary weren't enough against his addiction to crystal methamphetamine.
Feary served six months in jail for smashing his wife's car window with a
hammer in a Waimalu shopping center and possessing "ice" on Sept. 4, 1996.
The singer tried to hang himself the day after he was arrested, but police
rescued him. Feary dropped out of several drug treatment programs and
failed several drug tests while serving five years of probation.
Feary, who had worn out his chances, was sentenced to 10 years in prison
in January.
"When he went to jail the first time, I went to see him," Rodriguez
recalled. "I told him, 'You're surrounded by friends who love you. Nothing
is so bad as to end it all.'"
But Feary looked back with a hardened veneer, he said.
"I loved him as the man I always knew, but there was an invisible wall
there."
D.J. Pratt of Kalapana said Feary's problems ran deeper than the drugs.
They grew up together and body-surfed as teen-agers at Sandy and Makapuu
beaches. They both attended Kalani High School.
"At first I was angry. I was kind of surprised, but not surprised at how
far he would take it," said Pratt, who lost a younger brother who also
hanged himself. "Emotionally, psychologically, it seems Mackey had problems
that people didn't know about," Pratt said.
Feary had been known as the brooding, quiet front man for Kalapana. He
joined the band at the age of 16.
"We were all young but he was the kid," Bilyeu said. "He held up the
songwriting part of the group. I learned from him. He was one of those
special persons born with it."
He wrote songs on planes, buses, even while watching TV.
"I'll never forget: We were watching TV together," recalled Maurice
Bega, 41, of Maui, who played with Feary since 1979. "He left the room, then
ran back and said, 'Brah, listen to this song I just wrote.' He wrote it
while we were watching TV. I couldn't believe it."
Feary structured music and lyrics in his head, unlike many songwriters
who need a guitar and endless rewrites.
"He was the most talented musician/songwriter I have ever known in my
life. He took me to the next level of performing," Bega said.
But like many of his peers, Feary got sucked into the drug scene.
His use of "ice" affected his marriage to Dana Feary and their four
children. Their union began crumbling in the last few years, Bilyeu said.
Feary turned to God for help, but he returned to his old circle of
friends. "He couldn't grow. He was still weak," Bilyeu said. "You get
leeches pushing the dope. They want to be around the scene. He had too many
around. Dealers are always around like lice."
Feary fought a spiritual battle, but he had "ice" flowing through his
veins. "You don't control 'ice,' it controls you," Rodriguez said.
"If you don't have forces surrounding you to help you, it calls you
back. 'Ice' said it wasn't done with him."
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From the 2/22/99 Variety online:
Shirley Stoler
Actress Shirley Stoler, who enjoyed a five-decade career on stage,
television and screen, died Feb. 17 of heart failure at Saint Vincent's
Hospital in New York City. She was 70.
Perhaps best known for her starring role as the Nazi overseer in the 1975
Italian film "Seven Beauties," which was Oscar-nominated for best foreign
film, Stoler also starred in the 1969 film "The Honeymoon Killers." She also
had featured roles in "Klute" (1971) and "The Deer Hunter" (1978).
Her TV appearances included the PBS production of "Displaced Person" with
Irene Worth and roles on "Charlie's Angels" and "The Edge of Night."
She toured the U.S. in the national company of "The Music Man" and was
featured in the Broadway production of "Lolita" starring Donald Sutherland.
Stoler performed with Caffe Cino, La Mama and Living Theater, entities
that laid the foundation for Off Broadway theater in New York.
She is survived by two brothers, David and Ira; a sister, Miriam; a
nephew; and six nieces.
Family suggests donations in her name be made to the Actors' Fund of America.
*Bessie Cohen
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Bessie Cohen, the last survivor of a 1911 New York
garment district fire that killed 146 people, died Sunday. She was 107.
The fire at Triangle Shirtwaist Co. on Manhattan's Lower East Side prompted
some of the first worker safety laws in the country. The exits to the
factory were sealed, trapping many workers in the inferno.
Mrs. Cohen, a 19-year-old immigrant from Russia who had been in the United
States only three years at the time, was finishing a nine-hour shift when
the fire erupted.
She later recalled a group of women crying and pounding on the doors of an
elevator shaft at the factory. Many workers jumped to their death on the
sidewalk rather than perish in flames, but Mrs. Cohen was able to escape by
running down eight flights of stairs.
She went on to work in a grocery store and marry. She settled in Los
Angeles in 1941.
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Death anniversaries:
Wednesday, 24 February
1984 - Tennessee Williams; playwright
1991 - George Gobel; comedian/TV host/game show panelist
1994 - Dinah Shore; singer
1998 - Antonio Prohias; cartoonist, "Spy Vs. Spy"
1998 - Henny Youngman; comedian
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:40:48 -0600
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) exotic Iceland
I'll be spending a few days, next April, in Reykjavik, Iceland. I know this
is a long shot, but is there anything Exotic there? Is there a Tiki bar at
the Blue Lagoon, or anything?
- -Lou
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:50:20 -0500
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: (exotica) tv is bad for your eyes
(eastern times)
Roger Corman & Jonathan Demme chat - A&E - Early Wednesday morning, 5:30am
The Strange Love Of Martha Ivers (1946) AMC - Wednesday afternoon, 2:00pm
Cleopatra (1934) AMC - Thursday night, 6:00pm, 12:15am
Cleopatra (1963) AMC - Thursday night, 8:00pm, 2:00am (late show probably
letterboxed)
Young Dillinger (1965) A&E - Early Saturday, 7:00am; early Sunday, 4:00am
The Lady Eve (1941) AMC - Saturday morning, 10:15am
The Killers (1946) AMC - Saturday afternoon, Noon
Beach Blanket Bingo (1965) AMC - Saturday night, 10:00pm, 4:00am
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Totally irrelevant note...
I've found a new (to me) bit of computerese -- a typographic rendering of
"the finger":
nlm
That's a lower-case "L" representing the upraised middle digit. The
anti--smilie? Spread the word. Use it wisely. But don't let Erich Von
Zipper get hold of it.
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m.ace ecam@voicenet.com
OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:14:04 -0500
From: Peter Risser <risser@goodnews.net>
Subject: (exotica) Melancholy Serenade
This tune was indeed penned by Gleason and was used as the theme for the
Honeymooners.
Peter
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 03:00:40 EST
From: Ottotemp@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Taboo tiki 2
Taboo Tiki
A well blended mixture of traditional Tiki culture, American kitsch
and live performance. To many people Tiki bar's are the place you go to get
drunk on fruity drink's but Otto Von Strohiem and Brynne Cortez (Taboo
promoter's) take thier Tiki ambience AND entertainment seriously. This month
they feature Traditional Hula Lessons and "The Best Lei" contest.
Date: March 11th 1999-- new time! 9:30pm
Location: The Stud at the corner of Ninth and Harrison streets, S.F.'s soma
district.
Price 5$
This month Otto (Tiki News) and Brynne (Space Cowgirls) MC another musical
tour of the South Sea's. Live UKE(ukelele) band "The Hobnobbers" perform
ukelele classic's and original material. Midnite dance revue by Bambi Lake and
"her Waterfall" Plus her "Tiny Bubble's". This month's contest will be "The
best Lei" The winner is the one who can make the best Lei out of the
materials provided. Sister Kitty and Sister Dana (Sister of Perpetual
Indulgence) will judge who makes "The Best Lei".
DJ's Alvin a-Go-Go, Otto Von Strohiem and DJ the Now Sound mix up the
perfect cocktail of Polynesian, Lounge and kitchy 60's and 70's music.
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:56:39 -0500
From: <laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com>
Subject: (exotica) Smith, Scott, sorry!
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 19:00:25
From: Brad Bigelow <>
Subject: [none]
><laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com> wrote:
>
>Hot-diggidy-dang! I heard a great record last night (one in our
collection
>that had just alluded me until then)...that I want to "hip" ya'll to...THE
>CITY by LARRY ELGART and BOB SMITH...It's a great crime-jazz-esque-noir
>record, one of those "tone poem conceptual" rekkids! Bob's a pretty dang
>smooth and rockin[ jass
>>>>>>>Arrgghh! It's Bobby SCOTT, one of the most under-recognized talents
in the
business.
But yes, this is a great record. Almost makes up for all those "Hooked on
Swing" records Larry went on to do.
Brad
Brad, and the rest of exotica humanity, I am sorry! I have to cull this
stuff from my memory, cuz my records are 20 minutes away from me and I JUST
looked at that one last night....But yesh, that's a great album and Mr
___SCOTT__ is a talent! And en re: to the Elgarts, there is another
goodin' out there, ELGART A-GO-GO!
Go, baby, go and thanks, Brad, for your expertise and great web page!
Grateful-a-go-go-, Jane Fondle
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:41:26 -0500
From: Peter Risser <risser@goodnews.net>
Subject: (exotica) Easy/Sequel
It's my understanding that there are various Sequel releases being slashed
to cut-out prices, some as low as four or five dollars. I am looking for
some Sequel stuff, but don't see any here in Cinci. If anyone has a place
nearby that has the cutout merchandise and is willing to help a fellow
lister, I'd sure be grateful.
In particular, I'm looking for:
The Easy Project (vol 1)
Sounds Orchestral: Meet James Bond
Highly Strung
John Schroeder: Space Age Soul
Joe Meek Presents
Thanks!
Peter
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 17:27:57 -0500
From: "telstar" <telstar@albedo.net>
Subject: (exotica) Desco/Wagram Records
Can anyone provide reviews for any of these reissues released by Desco
Records/Disques Wagram: "The Other Side", "The Daktaris", "Sugarman Three",
"Nino Nardini & the Pop Riviera Group", "The Revenge of Mister Mopoji"
(soundtrack) or "Junior Jet Set" ??
Thanks in advance...
Allan
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:51:10 EST
From: Pearmania@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Messiaen
I have several things by Messiaen, two of which feature Ondes Martenot.
I agree that Ondes Martenot does not sound like the Ondioline (that is the
instrument on Experiment in Terror and all over The Ipcress File soundtrack,
right?). I seem to recall that the Ondes Martenot is similar to the theremin.
It sounds a bit like a theremin, too. The Ondioline sounds more to me like a
zither with deep reverb.
My Messiaen LPs which feature Ondes Martenot are the aforementioned
Turangalila Symphony (conducted by Previn and released on a 2 LP set by Angel
in 1978) and an LP with two pieces on it, Petites Liturgies and De La Presence
Divine (released on abc Westminster Gold in 1974).
A chilling and beautiful piece which does not feature Ondes Martenot is
Messiaen's Quatour pour la Fin du Temps (Quartet for the End of Time). This
is also one of his most recorded pieces so it should be relatively easy to
find.
Sean
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:59:39 -0800
From: "Kevin C." <kevin@kevdo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 2 CD Capitol Gleason v. Denny v. Baxter
LTepedino@aol.com wrote:
> > It is titled "The Exotic Sounds - The Very Best Of Martin Denny"
> > It is 28 tracks (not counting the "intro" which is the introduction taken from
> > Denny's live album which opens the disc. The tracks follow in chronological
> > order,
> >
> > Quiet Village (original mono version)
> > Jungle Flower ": "
> > Japanese Farewell Song
> > Forbidden Island
> > Mau Mau
> > Bangcock Cockfight
> > American In Bali
> > Hypnotique
> > Jungle Madness
> > Ma'Chumba
> > Bamboo Lullaby
> > Manila
> > Happy Talk
> > Sake Rock
> > Firecracker
> > Paradise Found
> > Cross Current
> > Stardust
> > Over The Rainbow
> > Strange Music
> > Moonlight & Shadows
> > Blue Paradise
> > Balck Orchid
> > On A Clear Day
> > Sukiyaki
> > Indrani
> > Hawaiian Rhapsody
> > Quiet Village (moog version)
>
> > Any other Denny collectors on the list I sure will agree that this track
> > listing provides a far more satisfying representation of Martuin Denny's best
> > work than any other collection around, even with the Capitol double sets
> > luxury of being able to include 12 more tracks.
Actually, I think I'd disagree. I went through my collection and based on the
stuff I've heard and like from the Capitol and Scamp collections, I'd probably
make different choices myself. For example, where's "Exotica" or "Similau"?
Also, this collection took 4 songs from the Quiet Village album (not including
"Quiet Village" which also appeared on "Exotica"). My personal opinion is that
the Quiet Village album was not Denny's best, certainly ranking below Exotica,
Exotica II, Hypnotique, and Afro-Desia.
We all would make different choices, this is certainly not a bad collection by
any means.
Also, you mentioned the inaccuracies of the Capitol collection. I'd love to see
Denny's notes on all the inaccuracies! :-) However, I will point out that the
Scamp version of Afro-Desia has an error in the liner notes; the Exotica album
spent five weeks at #1, not Quiet Village album (at least, according to my
sources).
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 21:32:03 -0500
From: cheryl <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Easy/Sequel
Peter Risser wrote:
>
> It's my understanding that there are various Sequel releases being slashed
> to cut-out prices, some as low as four or five dollars.
> In particular, I'm looking for:
> The Easy Project (vol 1)
> Sounds Orchestral: Meet James Bond
> Highly Strung
> John Schroeder: Space Age Soul
> Joe Meek Presents
Dusty Groove carries a lot of these titles. They're not at cut-out
prices, but are quite reasonable all the same!
cheryl
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:56:41 -0800
From: "Steve Sando" <mrlucky@mrlucky.com>
Subject: (exotica) My ebay Story
I'm fairly new to Ebay and maybe I just lucked out, but all the complaints
about prices being driven too high worked to my benefit. I had a copy of
Frank Sinatra's Close to You, which I probably bought for under $10 when it
came out. I recently got the Capitol box so I had 2 copies. I'd heard this
particular disc was out of print but I was shocked when the feeding frenzy
drove the price up to $110! It was surreal, especially when you consider
that Capitol will eventually re-release it and it's currently available in
the box. If someone is so much a Sinatra freak to pay $110 for a used CD,
why wouldn't they just spring for the box set?
I also run an Ethel Merman website. It started out as a way to learn HTML
back in 1996 but it's become somewhat of a source on the web for dear Ethel.
I have no desire to buy all the expensive memorabilia on ebay, but I do want
the photos for my site, so I download the photos, play with them in
Photoshop and add them to my site. SOmetimes they do a tricky thing and you
can't save the image because the source is HtML. The way around this to take
a screen shot.
MisterLUCKY, published by Coconut Grove Media
Visit MisterLUCKY on the web: http://www.mrlucky.com
PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107
"Strange how potent cheap music is" - Noel Coward
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:39:15 -0500
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella, Bob Thiele and Bob Crewe
At 08:24 AM 2/23/99 EST, LTepedino@aol.com wrote:
>
>Actually, "Melancholy Serenade" is the theme song to the Jackie Gleason
>variety show. "You're My Greatest love" is the theme song to "The
>Honeymooners."
Well either way, I have to once more sing the praises of the Bob Crewe
version. If I had a show, that would be my theme song. Unfortunately my
theme song would probably change every couple of weeks, each time I find
another perfect theme song for me.
Nat
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:39:17 -0500
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Barbarella
At 10:33 AM 2/23/99 EST, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>In a message dated 2/23/99 6:50:20 AM, exotica@munich.netsurf.de wrote:
>
>>I think good film music never illustrates a movie 1 to 1; it rather adds
>>the things that you cannot see, sometimes to an extend that it literally
>becomes
>>the opposite of what you see.
>
>Exactly--did anyone ever actually WATCH "Shaft?" The film is absolutely un-
>compelling, but the music is gripping (as in many Blacksploitation flicks)
On the one hand, I tell myself, I'm flogging a dead horse here. On the
other hand, soundtracks come up on this list so often here, maybe it's
interesting to have a bit of a discussion about their function in a film.
As long as I don't get cheryl angry at me, I'll be happy. She and Brian
have promised me an evening of Schlager music and some kind of
complementary food - perhaps fondue??? - in the near future and I don't
want to jeopardize that.
I believe that Shaft is a perfect example of "1 to 1" film music that
happened to really complement the film and made it better than it would
have been.
But maybe I don't know what you mean by "1 to 1".
I think Isaac Hayes did a great job and I think he did a better job than
most of the other blacksploitation composers because number one, he was
more talented and number two, there was already a kind of "background
music" sensibility in his work at the time.
But I don't believe that Mr. Hayes was trying to create music that was a
"counterpoint" to the film. I believe he was trying to absolutely match
the sensibility, setting and ambience of the film itself. It just happened
that his music was better than the film.
Nat
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:39:11 -0500
From: Nat Kone <bruno@yhammer.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Barbarella
At 11:49 AM 2/23/99 +0100, Moritz R wrote:
>
I think good film music never illustrates a movie 1 to 1; it rather adds
>the things that you cannot see, sometimes to an extend that it literally
becomes
>the opposite of what you see. The way Barbarella sounds it is the ultimate
"camp"film and I can't quite see how this could be managed with one of the
musical alternatives you suggest, Nat.
Let's face it. In the case of films like Barbarella and lots of biker
films and hippy films too, they hired composers who they thought could give
them a "hip" sound that matched their "hip" sensibility. Sometimes they got
lucky and the composer actually came up with something that matched the
film; sometimes the film was totally UN-hip but at least in retrospect, the
music that the UN-hip composer came up with kind of fit the film. And
sometimes there was a total disconnect between the film's concept of what
was hip/cool/current and the composer's concept.
If you think that Barbarella is a case of a filmmaker and composer getting
lucky and having complementary concepts, I can't argue. But it's my
opinion that if the music here works at all, it's an accident. I can't
even say that I'm certain that the director was purposely going for a
"camp" sensibility but I'm pretty sure the composer wasn't. That was
pretty well the kind of music he was making at the time which is why, as
cheryl pointed out, it sounded so familiar to me. He would have delivered
that sound, I believe, no matter what the assignment was.
But if it works for you, great.
Your issue of "1 to 1" film music would be an interesting one to pursue
some time. As far as I understand your use of that term, I would say
that's the concept upon which the vast majority of scores are based and
even if most of them are somewhat less than imaginative, they also usually
"work".
Mostly though I'm curious about your use of the word "camp". Usually
something becomes a "camp classic" only in retrospect. If the music works
for you NOW, that may not be much of a reflection on whether it was an
appropriate choice at the time. I genuinely love lots of biker film
soundtracks but mostly because of the lovely way that the crappy music and
the crappy films - in retrospect only - complement each other.
Nat
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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:54:02 -0500
From: Bump <bumpy@megsinet.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica)made to order- Gleason v. Denny v. Baxter
>Actually, I think I'd disagree. I went through my collection and based on t=
he
>stuff I've heard and like from the Capitol and Scamp collections, I'd proba=
bly
>make different choices myself.
Have no fear, the time is here!
With the mention of Mp3's earlier last week,
this is what we can and will do,
make our own comps, on CD of course.
To heck with settling for other peoples tastes and biases in our music
collection! :P (i am only partly serious)
We can hear it and have it with a click of our mouse.
(if some collector made it available)
like my man Roy G. Biv is starting to do.
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=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9=A9
Bump
Universal DJ
Defective Records
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http://www.defectiverecords.com
"Dig the Music, Kids" -- JONNY ALUCARD
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:33:54 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <hagar@mindspring.com>
Subject: (exotica) (review, long) Upon seeing Little Jimmy Scott at Borders...
It is a good thing that I had a Creative Loafing papaer in front of me, for
I was reminded that Little Jimmy Scott was to be at Borders. There, they
screened the Bravo documentary abbout his life and also, they had him there
to perform several songs and there was an autograph session and a giveaway.
So, for free, I thought that it would be worth it!
The documentary gathers commentary from an eclectic bunch of people, Ruth
Brown, David Lynch, Alec Baldwin (Scott sang at his wedding), Lou Reed (he
was a guest on his Magic and Loss album), Rose Marie McCoy (writer of the
fabulous "Gabbin' Blues") and his family, which included two of at least
four of his ex-wives.
For the uninitiated, Scott is a vocalist who has been working off and on
since the 1940's and has a medical condition that keeps some of his
anatomy from maturing, including his vocal cords, so his voice is rather
high, not unlike a woman, but NOT like Marcy!
Mr. Scott stepped up to the mike to perform. He was accompanied by the
pianist Michael Canaan. From the first note (and a fair distance from the
mike), he filled the room with his sweet balladry, sung powerfully. He
sings verrrrry slowly, but do not take this as meaning that he does not
swing (he does), he is dull (he isn't), or that it is easy to do (which it
isn't! Ballads leave a musician naked to the world and they are quite hard
to do plausibly). He sang, "Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child",
which was sung with great depth of feeling, made greater by the fact he
lost his mother when he was young, due to a drunk driver. He closed with,
"Sorry Seems to Be the Hardest Word" (yes, the Elton John song!) and while
I still don't care for the song, Scott transformed it and made it good.
"Someone To Watch Over Me" brought everyone to their feet, however. The
penultimate song of the set, he sang this song at Doc Pomus' funeral (and
unwittingly netted a recording contract with Warner Brothers because of
that) and it is clear that he truly feels deeply about this melody.
Since some of you know my high regard of Jazz (there was a short thread
some time back about my feelings about the term, "Crime Jazz"), you
probably have gathered that I have equally strong feelings about giving the
practioners their due. I have waited to hear Scott in person since I heard
his record, "Evening in Paradise" on the Cosby Show, so that is about 13
years to get a day like this and I was not only not disappointed in the
music, but the turn out was equally gratifying. The store was crawling
with people of all ages (up to and including a boy named Cade, who invented
the word "Buna") and I am sure Scott was pleased with the number of people
that came out on a 30-degree night. One of the Borders employees said that
this was the biggest attendance for a musical event ever for them!
And if I wasn't already on Cloud Nine, I got a chance to shake his hand and
found he was as gracious as he is talented. Plus, I may have a picture of
me doing just that, if the guy in line sends the picture as he says he is
going to!
A perfect capper to Black History Month.
Now, here is the plug and question section:
1. Borders (http://www.borders.com) is selling "Bravo Profiles A Jazz
Master: Little Jimmy Scott" the CD, while excellent, has NO notes at all.
Do buy it, do! I have discerned that these songs are drawn from two
sessions while he was with Atlantic form 1969 and 1972, which can also be
found on "Lost and Found", but this collection is cheaper and has two more
songs! Incidentally, these recordings are rare, due to the fact that
Herman Lubinsky (everybody now, Hochh, PTOO!) of Savoy Records, used legal
muscle to see that these recordings were rescinded or never released.
2. This brings me to my question. Scott recounts that one of his favorite
albums just barely saw the light of day, "Falling In Love is Beautiful" on
Tangerine, because Herman Lubinsky (K-kwop, PTOO!) suppressed the release
of that one, too. Does anyone have a tape of this? Will gladly trade a
tape of this of something with anyone. I may have something you want.
Thanks.
To relate this to Exotica, his voice is rather odd, the orchestration lush
and let's say he in the Mid-to-High Yma Sumac range!
Thanks for reading this long and for Jimmy Scott CD recommendations, e-mail
me off-list.
Brian Phillips
Brian Phillips
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