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exotica-digest       Thursday, February 4 1999       Volume 02 : Number 313



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) Moog Question - Switched On Bach
(exotica) Re: Who sounds like CE?
Re: (exotica) Billy Jack, tikis and contests!
Re: (exotica) White Rainbow-portable vinyl
Re:  (exotica) Prado, Cugat, Time label and Bobby Rosengarden
Re: (exotica) Sound Lounge 2/3/99
(exotica) RE: Who Sounds like CE?
Re: (exotica) Sound Lounge 2/3/99
Re: (exotica) Re: DJ Dimitri & Sampling
(exotica) re: Sunshine Superman
Re: (exotica) Prado, Cugat, Time label and Bobby Rosengarden
(exotica) Black Emmanuel's Groove
Re: (exotica)  Bobby Rosengarden
Re: (exotica) Moog Question
(exotica) Julius Wechter obit
RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman
RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman
RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman
(exotica) Mondegreen (was re: Sunshine Superman)
Re:  RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman
(exotica) Music to Moog By
(exotica) RE: Sunshine Superman
Re:  RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman
RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman
Re:  (exotica) Mondegreen (was re: Sunshine Superman)
(exotica) exotica etc
(exotica) Andy's 15 minutes!
(exotica) Dimitri/samples & lounge book
Re: (exotica) exotica etc
Re: (exotica) Julius Wechter obit
Re: (exotica) Who sounds like CE ?
(exotica) Space Age Album Cover Book
Re: (exotica) Re: RE: A Very Stylish Girl
Re:  (exotica) Dimitri/samples & lounge book
Re:  Re: (exotica) Julius Wechter obit
(exotica) VIVE LA SAMPLE!
Re: (exotica) Who sounds like CE ?
(exotica) c'est magnifique!
(exotica) Cartoon Question:  The Isle of Jazz
(exotica) Denny McLain vs. James Bond
Re: (exotica) Re: RE: A Very Stylish Girl
Re:  Re: (exotica) Who sounds like CE ?
(exotica) Seedy News

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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:21:09 +0100
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Moog Question - Switched On Bach

Ross Orr wrote:

> Okay, here's a real collector-geek question--
>
> I got this copy of _Switched On Bach_ and it just looked funny to me
> somehow. I realized that instead of the cover photo of the Bach-alike guy
> standing looking all aloof, this was an alternate photo where he's sitting
> and looking kind of insane. His face is all puffed up like he's holding his
> breath or having an anyeurism or something.
>
> Anyone seen that? What's the deal?

I always thought that THIS is the original cover and the other version, that
you used to know, with the Barock-guy standing, was the American version. I
only knew it from photos of it on later records, never found it anywhere in
Europe.

BTW: There is a really interesting and well done Wendy Carlos homepage (just
look at the fine "WENDY" background pattern!):

http://www.wendycarlos.com/index.html

(Mimi! That's one for you!)

The homepage has a discography but it doesn't become clear which the original
cover really was: The CD version has the standing guy. There seems to be a
third version with a different layout: The title is on a white field on top of
the cover.

However: The homepage also says that the scores of "Tron" and "The Shining",
that Carlos seems to be responsible for (which I didn't know), where never
published because the original master tapes had melted together. Amazing...

Mo



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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:53:31 -0500
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Who sounds like CE?

>IMO, CE hasn't created anything new or original

Jack, it may have been true that back on _I, Swinger_ what was most
interesting was the way they recreated a "sound" from those earlier sources.

But when it comes to _The Impossible World_, I just don't see how you can
say that. It's obviously "Lounge-influenced" (sorta like the Beatles were
Chuck-Berry-influenced), but compositionally, and in its sound textures
it's an original.

If "Song of the Space Siren" is supposedly imitating some earlier artist,
who would that be?

perplexed,

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 11:15:31 -0800
From: Ron Grandia <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Billy Jack, tikis and contests!

[e-mail] wrote:

>    Finally, I used to see on ze web this page that sold these sandstone
>    tiki necklaces and keychains...  I checked Tiki Trader(I think that's
>    the name), and it wasn't them... Do you, dear reader, know where it is?
>
>    Tiki-keychainless,
>    Jane Fondle---ah, go ahead, hate your neighbor, cheat your friend...

Could it be the venerable Tiki King of the Santa Cruz Mountains? If it's not
the guy you are looking for, it's another avenue for all your tikeychain
needs.  He makes all kindsa cools shtuff... Reminds me to go to his site and
do some gifty-shopping.

Get there by following this link to Baby-Doe's site and link to the King on
her tiki page.
http://www.creative.net/~babydoe/





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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:22:38 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) White Rainbow-portable vinyl

>> >GM tried to make a portable vinyl player for cars in the 50's. It
>> worked
>> >too. The only problem is that to keep it from skipping they had to
>> make the
>> >arm so heavy it actually shaved off some of your record each time you
>> played
>> >it.

Not to plug meself, but this topic does seem to pop up now and then.

For exhaustive details please refer to the "Highway Hi-Fi" article at my
site (url below).

General Malaise had minimal involvement, BTW.

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:32:02 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Prado, Cugat, Time label and Bobby Rosengarden

In a message dated 2/4/99 11:37:29 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Now the label...this is the first record on the Time label that I have
>bought. Are these generally good? Any to be avoided?

I like all the Time recordings I have.  They are slightly overmodulated and
there is a real innocent & cheap immediacy to them that I find
endearing...Jimmy


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:38:36 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound Lounge 2/3/99

At 01:32 AM 2/4/99 -0700, jonathan wrote:
>Sondi Sodsai       Sondi             Paradise Found Vol.1 (CD)

Does anyone know anything about this artist?  A friend of mine asked me to
ask you.  (That sounds suspicious.)
He asked me a long time ago and this entry jogged my crowded memory.
Who is she?  Discography.  Anything else on CD?
He couldn't tell me what was so special about her so if you want to throw
that in, go ahead.

Nat



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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:05:11 -0500
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Who Sounds like CE?

Jack of Diamonds sez:
<< IMO, CE hasn't created anything new or original and I (just might) bet
dollars to donuts, Cleve won't have any problem whatsoever with this
statement, here:-) >>

I disagree.

X gets the square!   (bing bing bing)


No more so than Led Zeppelin didn't create anything new or original.
Everyone borrows from the past and puts their own spin on it.  You can
trace influences, but CE is certainly different from Esquivel or Enoch
Light, even though they have similar ideas.
For one thing, I don't Esquivel ever sung in Esperanto.  (Still can't get
over that!!!)

Peter



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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:55:59 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sound Lounge 2/3/99

>Sondi Sodsai       Sondi             Paradise Found Vol.1 (CD)

I cannot tell you about the music, but apparently she played a character
named "Sondi" in a show called Adventures in Paradise, a detective show hat
took place in Tahiti.



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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:02:16 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: DJ Dimitri & Sampling

At 08:21 AM 2/4/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>There are many examples of good sampling,
> In my experience, these artists (Dimitri, Tipsy, et al) that do use easy,
>exotica, lounge, now-sound, etc. all seem to repeat them a little too
>much...they quickly become monotonous.

I guess I know what you mean but it seems a little strange to me, to
criticize someone for repeating samples.  What's the purpose of sampling
anyway?
There is no single purpose.  It's an individual thing. Sometimes the artist
uses samples in the same fun "spot-the-sample" way that some of us like
listening to them.  But sometimes samples are used as "instruments".
Repeating a sample can be like repeating a bass line or repeating a guitar
riff.  They're not interested in finding endless samples for your
enjoyment.  They're just constructing a piece of music.
And then there's sampling which purposely "pushes the envelope" on
repetition.  Repetition is what the music is about.
And by the way, I could say the same thing for "visual sampling" as used in
films and art in general.
It's true that some samples seem to repeat a lot.  It doesn't always work
for me but then I could say the same thing for almost everything.

Nat



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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:13:55 -0500
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman

For the record, I'm pretty sure it's

"I could've tripped out easy, but I've changed my ways"

<<
Im going to a lyrics server....
>>

Good luck.  I hear that the copyright police are cracking down on these as
well.  I know one in Sweden just got closed by a local law enforcement type.

Sigh.
"The Dream Police, they live inside of my head."

Peter


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:22:15 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Prado, Cugat, Time label and Bobby Rosengarden

At 11:55 PM 2/3/99 -0500, Tom Karches wrote:
>I noticed in the credits of "Spanish Guitars" that Bob Rosengarden does all
>the percussion (including the Chinese Bell Tree). This has to be Bobby
>Rosengarden who does the percussion on the Walter Wanderley albums. Is
>anyone familiar with his own albums or his work on other artists records?

Up until I started buying this stuff, for me Bobby Rosengarden was Dick
Cavett's bandleader on his old talk show.  As a kid that show was the
height of wit and sophistication but when I see samples of it now, I
realize that it was kind of a strange show and that Dick was a kiss-ass
effete snob.  (But so am I???)

I love the way all kinds of musicians had very limited frames of reference
for me until I started seeing their names on these records.  "Oh him?  He
was in Merv's band.  That guy there?   Isn't that Happy Kyne?"

I'm sure others will recommend all Bobby's records on Command but I'll just
put in one more vote for the "Bob and Phil" record with "Blowin in the
wind" on it.

>>Now the label...this is the first record on the Time label that I have
>bought. Are these generally good? Any to be avoided?

I think they're generally bad but then again, I don't think I would have
recommended the Spanish Guitar one that you like.  I almost always buy them
and I'm almost always disappointed.  The two that I've kept are "Gershwin
Guitars" and "Flutes and Percussion".
If they have huge string sections listed on the back, I occasionally pass
them up.

Nat





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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:20:17 -0600
From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Black Emmanuel's Groove

<From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
<Subject: (exotica) Black Emmanuel's Groove

<Someone mentioned this in a show playlist.
<Anyone know what it's like or what it's about?

I got this from Dusty Groove and, except for cut
#2, which is a wonderful bossa, the rest is rather
unremarkable, imo.

- --

     Mark D. Head
_________________________________________________
     TANSTAAFL!




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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:29:20 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica)  Bobby Rosengarden

At 03:51 PM 2/4/99 +0000, Robbie Baldock wrote:
>
>More recently, in fact just last year(!), he appeared on an Enoch Light
>tribute album as part of a band of former Light musicians calling
>themselves the "Lounge Brigade".  The CD is called "Put Some Style in
>It" and is on Shanachie.
>
>I have to say it borders on the "hokey" (thanks M Toth!) but deserves to
>be bought if for no other reason than to hear a bunch of musicians in
>their 60s, 70s and 80s playing, amongst other things, a Nirvana cover
>(Heart Shaped Box)...!

I only listened to that CD in the record store so maybe my hearing was
impaired but I was very very disappointed.
You read the liner notes and the producers tell this whole story about
loving Enoch Light and Command and then you hear their tribute and...
It's just a total disconnect.
I'm not sure I blame them though.  It's just as likely that the musicians
themselves were unwilling - or incapable - not only of "reproducing" that
sound but of doing anything that could be considered a tribute to that sound.
On the other hand, if it was easy to reproduce that sound and that
sensibility, then those original records wouldn't be as unique as they are.

Nat



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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:37:11 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Moog Question

At 11:45 AM 2/4/99 -0500, Ross Orr wrote:

>On another note:
>
>>"Yeah but one day, one of
>>those guys is going to be the new Skitch Henderson and he'll make
>>background music like everyone else".
>
>Sadly, being famous once is no guarantee of a continued income. I never
>quite got over it when I realized that one of the Firesign Theater (heros
>of my teens) was the voice doing the narration on some PBS nature film. . .

Well I did stop short of screaming "sell out!".  But narrating PBS films
and providing music for that particular TV guide awards show are quite
different.

I understand the concept of making a living - unfortunately that's all I
understand is the concept - but it's one thing to provide background music
for a film and another thing to support the cheesy sausage-making
mediocrity that you once implicitly railed against in your own music.

Nat




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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:58:40 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Julius Wechter obit

I found the following information at Rudy's A&M Corner. Go to the URL below
for full details.
- -L


Obituary for Julius Wechter
Born May 10, 1935 - Died February 1, 1999

Julius Wechter, songwriter, percussionist, and leader of the Baja Marimba
Band, died of lung cancer on February 1st, in his home with his family at
his side. He was 63.

http://www.rudyscorner.com/amcorner/gallery/julius.php3





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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:09:47 -0800
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman

> For the record, I'm pretty sure it's=20
>=20
> "I could've tripped out easy, but I've changed my ways"
>=20
While we are on the subject... The song "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"

Is it "The girl with colitis goes by?"



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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:28:10 -0500
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman

> > For the record, I'm pretty sure it's
> >
> > "I could've tripped out easy, but I've changed my ways"
> >
> While we are on the subject... The song "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
>
> Is it "The girl with colitis goes by?"
>
The girl with kaleidoscope eyes.....




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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 13:32:58 -0800
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman

> >=20
> > Is it "The girl with colitis goes by?"
> >=20
> The girl with kaleidoscope eyes.....


Uhhh... That was  a joke.  I hope Charles was not the only one whod did =
nt realize I am not THAT dense.  heheheh  Funny stuff.

This is kind of  a fun thread... I am sure Everyone has a messed-up =
lyric story.
I was once discussing Blondie's Heart of Glass with my lovely bride. I =
asked
"Once I had a love and it was a gas... Soon turned out, had a heart of =
glass.
Seemed like the real ting only to fi-i-ind.....  What?"  She says "Mucho =
mistrust, loves gone behind."

"Ha!" Says I, positive that such a lame lyric would never be offered by =
Blondie, the once-hip NY Warhol darlings.  I taunt and tease. I pour it =
on thick. "How long have you been humming THAT to yourself?" I ask.

Push comes o shove and a phone call is made to a friend who has the =
album and possibly a supplied lyric sheet. Shure enough. Mucho Mistrust.

I still can't believe it.



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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 13:52:40 -0800
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mondegreen (was re: Sunshine Superman)

Ok all you girls with colitis, there is a name for these things: "Mondegreen."
A Mondegreen is simply a misheard lyric. I don't know the etymology, but they
are a vital thread indeed. There are a few sites out there devoted to the
subject. Here's one:
<http://homepages.avint.net/~rhollett/mondegreen/index.html>http://homepage
s.avint.net/~rhollett/mondegreen/index.html

Which is worse? A girl with colitis or kaleidscope eyes?

Clark


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:58:04 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman

In a message dated 2/4/99 5:42:42 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>> > Is it "The girl with colitis goes by?"
>

>
>> The girl with kaleidoscope eyes.....

Question:   Which makes more sense?
>


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:02:28 -0000
From: "Robert Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Moog By

Another one of those high-quality 180gm vinyl, er, "reissues" is on
the way:

Gershon Kingsley - "Music to Moog By"

If anyone's interested in a copy, please get in touch.


Robbie


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:03:14 -0600
From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Sunshine Superman

On Thursday, February 04, 1999, Ron Grandia wrote:

> This is kind of  a fun thread... I am sure Everyone has a
> messed-up lyric story.

Check out these sites:

http://www.kissthisguy.com/ (as in "'Scuse me while I kiss this guy")

http://www.enteract.com/~jessicar/lyrics/

- -Indy Rutks ([e-mail])



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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:56:09 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman

In a message dated 2/4/99 5:19:22 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Is it "The girl with colitis goes by?"

How did you know?


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 14:06:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) re: Sunshine Superman

What's the title of that B-52's song that has the refrain of "Whoa,
Nipsy Russell"?



- ---Ron Grandia <[e-mail]> wrote:

> > > Is it "The girl with colitis goes by?"

> > The girl with kaleidoscope eyes.....

> Uhhh... That was  a joke.
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:59:12 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Mondegreen (was re: Sunshine Superman)

In a message dated 2/4/99 5:56:30 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Which is worse? A girl with colitis or kaleidscope eyes?

Who's the gyrrrl?


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 14:59:32 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) exotica etc

can anyone please tell me the url for ppeeks exotica etc site ?
thanks all in advance
jack


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:52:29 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Andy's 15 minutes!

my wife recently did the CD design for some Andy Williams reissues , so I
decided to spend some time (the dinner hour) and reacquaint myself with his
music. the thrift shops are usually swimming with Andy black plastic, but I
had managed to avoid it so far. For any DJ's and "now-sound" fans, here are
some of the highlights, IMHO.  a swingin' vocal version of Sid Ramin's "Music
to Watch Girls By", a suprisingly good version  of "God Only Knows", better
than David Bowie's. , a rockin' "Windy", an ersatz-Pet Sounds song by Bill
House called "Our Last Goodbye" , and an incredibly strange version of
"Spooky", in its' own way as good as Lydia Lunch' .what possessed Andy to sing
that one? the 60's did strange things to people. most of the rest is well
- --ANDY. Inoffensive, but not exactly booty-shakin'. Now Claudine Longet !
- --I'd take up skiing for her favors (insert your own tasteless Claudine joke
here). Love is blue , but Claudine is da bomb!


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 19:05:42 -0800 (PST)
From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dimitri/samples & lounge book

I think an artist can get a lot more "mileage" out of musical (non-verbal)
samples in an otherwise instrumental song than with verbal samples, because
the verbal too easily becomes a focal point.

I personally don't care for the "Very Stylish Girl" track, regardless of
where I've heard it (home, car, gym), because the samples are repeated so
often, but I do think it would be a different story if I didn't speak
English (and thus the samples were just sound, not words I understood).

It would also be a different story if Dimitri did something to alter the
samples over the course of the song, such as speeding them up, slowing them
down, playing them backwards, or distorting them somehow.  Actually, it
would be a perfectly acceptible song without the samples, for that matter.

In another matter, has anyone seen that "exotica" book that was supposed to
come out in early 1999, the name of which was "Exotiquarium" or something
very close to the name of Johan's website?  It was mentioned on the list
something like six months ago and sounded like it might be promising.

- -- Brad


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Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 00:47:27 -0000
From: "Robert Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotica etc

Jack wrote:

> can anyone please tell me the url for ppeeks exotica etc site ?

I think you'll find it's:

http://www.vinyllives.com/


Robbie


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 99 20:13:16 -0400
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Julius Wechter obit

Wierd synchronicity, I had done a mostly Baja Marimba Band show just days
previous to his death.

Frank


>Obituary for Julius Wechter
>Born May 10, 1935 - Died February 1, 1999
>
>Julius Wechter, songwriter, percussionist, and leader of the Baja Marimba
>Band, died of lung cancer on February 1st, in his home with his family at
>his side. He was 63.


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 99 20:13:11 -0400
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who sounds like CE ?

>... compare CE to sounds from the past in saying "this album
>sounds like CE or that album sounds like CE", when the reality is, is that
>CE sounds like them and not the other way around.

Yea, I agree that sometimes peoples points of reference are a bit
anachronistic but, it's obvious that their statements are based on the
chronology of their listening experience not the actual chronology of the
music. It's such a common blunder that it's entirely excusable in
ordinary conversation. How or why you jump to the following conclusion I
don't know.

>IMO, CE hasn't created anything new or original and I (just might) bet
>dollars to donuts, Cleve won't have any problem whatsoever with this
>statement, here:-)

Jack, I think you enjoy provoking response;)

If you want to say this, which in essence places the "originality" on the
influential material, then you would have to logically conclude that
there is'nt much originality period. Everyone if influenced by some
predecessor.

My own take on CE's recent recordings is that there is more of an
influence from club music and ambient rock than from our sacred icons of
exotica.

Frank


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:01:17 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Space Age Album Cover Book

Anyone know anything about this here ?

Exotiquarium: Album Art from the Space Age
                      Jennifer McKnight-Trontz  Foreword by Lenny Dee

It's coming out in March (or so says Barnesandnoble.com)

Sounds like they stole the title from Johan #:-O

FORWARD BY LENNY DEE!


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:26:20 -0800
From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: RE: A Very Stylish Girl

At 12:19 AM 2/3/99 -0600, King Kini wrote:
>
>with all due respect, i don't think dimitri made his record for
>people with your tastes.

Can't argue with that!  But, I have to say that I've enjoyed the sampling
used in many musical genres, from rap/hiphop (you name it, but for my
tastes I think "Welcome to the Terrordome" by Public Enemy is GREAT and
uses sampling well), experimental (like "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts" by
Byrne/Eno), Minimalist/Classical (like "Different Trains" by Reich),
pop/triphop (like Portushead, Skylab, Beck), Worldbeat disco gregorian
chant mutations, etc., etc., and I've enjoyed sampling in these and other
multiple genres when it was well done, so I don't think that my tastes are
TOO limited, mind ya.'  And, here's the punchline..... 90% is way more
slick than dimitri.  Listening to his samples is like listening to water drip.

Sorry, just an honest difference of opinion.  Time for us all to move on.



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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:18:07 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Dimitri/samples & lounge book

In a message dated 2/4/99 9:48:33 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Actually, it
>
>would be a perfectly acceptible song without the samples, for that matter.

The song is basically the opening bars to the Theme from "Girl From
U.N.C.L.E." starring Stephanie Powers and Noel Harrison as the Ilya Kuriakin
wannabe. The theme itself is worth the price of the album "soundtrack" which I
last saw priced to stay at 30 Yankee Dolla. I have a mono copy and everything
on it is excellent


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:19:44 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Julius Wechter obit

In a message dated 2/4/99 9:57:46 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Wierd synchronicity, I had done a mostly Baja Marimba Band show just days
>previous to his death.

"All Things Considered" did a thing on him tonight on  America's NPR (National
Public Radio)


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:50:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Andy Cruz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) VIVE LA SAMPLE!

BTW,

Dimitri is playing in NYC on Feb. 19th.




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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:56:33 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who sounds like CE ?

You know that God damn Cleve just ripped that whole keyboard thing off from
Martin Denny.  Jesus, you would think he could come up with something
original.

And all those references to tiki stuff with there music.  Well I hate to tell
them, BUT IT'S BEEN DONE!!!!!

Robert


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 21:01:04 -0600
From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) c'est magnifique!

le drip




le drip




le drip




le drip




le drip




le drip




le drip




le drip







visit...

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          King Kini's  C L U B  V E L V E T
             http://www.tamboo.com
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:33:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Cartoon Question:  The Isle of Jazz

Has anyone seen the Merrie Melodies cartoon that pits the Isle of Jazz against
the Island of Symphony (or something similar to that)???

The two duke it out in a war of "music" over the son of the royal family of
the symphony island and the daugher of the rulers of the jazz island being in
love.

Can anyone elaborate on this and correct me if I am wrong in the above
statements?  Any idea where to get a good copy of this???

Robert


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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 19:43:48 -0500
From: Risser Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Denny McLain vs. James Bond

Has anyone heard the Denny McLain version of Girl from Ipanema from the =
LP In Las Vegas?
I honestly don't think that "Meditation" is on the Ultra-Lounge disc =
Organs in Orbit, no matter what they say.

Has anyone ever heard the song "Meditation" by Jobim, and can anyone say =
for sure if it's in the track or not?


On other news, Ben checked his copy of the Leroy Holmes LP and found =
that there are NOT two versions of the JB theme as the liner notes =
suggest.  I'm wondering, is this a different group altogether, or just =
Leroy's version on a later album.
Can anyone speak with authority.

I can email Real Audio copies of the songs to those who have the ear or =
the record collection, but not the tune.


Now I wanna know.
Peter


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 23:27:11 -0500
From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: RE: A Very Stylish Girl

 >And, here's the punchline..... 90% is way more
>slick than dimitri.  Listening to his samples is like listening to water dr=
ip.

>Sorry, just an honest difference of opinion.  Time for us all to move on.

i have been reading this cat fight, and too much amusement.
but in the words of the SPROCKETS host-"it has become tiresome!"
BUT while i am at it i will put in my pennies...
i am from both sides of this fence.
i am a big sample fan, i have been "sampling musician" for 7 years now.
the ENO/Byrne lp was a big influence on me,  i still  spin cuts from it.
as well were Public Enemy/Beastie Boys...Beck and Tipsy have pricked my
ears up again over the last few years when it comes to the use of samples.
 (Beastie Boys and Beck ie. i should say the Dust Brothers)
in the electronica/club scene to which i would say i am a part as well, i
enjoy Dimitri very much, and spin his tunes. i think they are very
entertaining. but i do not think he has made a mark in the history of
sampling. from the musical perspective this list is coming from, it seems
he is gonna have to think a bit harder to win more of us over.
and i hope he does!

how did all this get started anyway...

oh yeah, that damn volvo commercial...

STOP WATCHING COMMERCIAL TV!
LISTEN TO RECORDS!
I will shut up now and go read some more Mondegreens!
thanx Ron!

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Bump
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Defective Records
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 23:33:45 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Who sounds like CE ?

In a message dated 2/4/99 10:23:41 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>My own take on CE's recent recordings is that there is more of an
>influence from club music and ambient rock than from our sacred icons of
>exotica.
>
>Frank

    A reliable source has quoted no less an exotica role model than Esquivel as
saying, when asked, what he would be presenting musically in today's
environment, "Electronica," he replied.  That said, I think that CE has not
only reacquainted listeners with past influences--especially with their first
TWO albums-- but has seized the gauntlet and pointed forward, with respect
given to exotica roots, in a way that NO OTHER PLAYING AGGREGATION has come
close to. C'mon Jack ! Who is working harder to create new sounds? I don't
create (yet) but I daresay that it is not an easy undertaking. If you REALLY
are dissatisfied with what you hear, you too can learn to create, and offer
your own take on what NOW should sound like...Jimmy Botticelli


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Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 15:56:58 -0500
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Seedy News

Well, for the 1.5 of you who have asked for AstroSlut demos in the past, I
have good news.  We're going to record a full-length album beginning next
week!  We've struck a nice production deal with a studio here in Boston,
Soundworks, where Combustible Edison recorded their fist two albums and
mixed FOUR ROOMS.  AstroSlut and Soundworks will have our CDs available,
uh, when I announce they are(should be a few
months.)  They will be on a web site called CD Alley, and on ours, when we
get one!
Thanks for your assumed interest,
Jane Fondle




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