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exotica-digest       Wednesday, January 13 1999       Volume 02 : Number 288



In This Digest:

(exotica) Bootlegging
(exotica) Anyone heard "Pais Tropical" by Sergio Mendes and Brazil '77?
Re: (exotica) "Bullets" over bra-way
Re: (exotica) "Bullets" over bra-way
(exotica) The Secret Cinema presents EXOTICA FILMS 2: Music and More! at Fez
Re: (exotica) "Bullets" over bra-way
Re: (exotica) Anyone heard "Pais Tropical" by Sergio Mendes and
RE: (exotica) Bootlegging
(exotica) Re:  "Bullets" over bra-way
Re:  (exotica) Ahmad Jamal
(exotica) Exoticanewbie thanks!
(exotica) Mo' art
(exotica) Carnival of Souls is here!!!
(exotica) Re: bootleggin' - one resolution
(exotica) I need some exotic breack
Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution
Re: (exotica) To B(ootleg) or not to B(ootleg)?
(exotica) Tikis for loan in So Calif??
(exotica) Bardot A Go Go
(exotica) more on The Clermont
Re: (exotica) Calling all radio DJ's
Re:  (exotica) Shag (working with)
(exotica) Towa Tei
(exotica) The Moog and Me
Re: (exotica) To B(ootleg) or not to B(ootleg)?

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:51:50 -0500
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bootlegging

<<
d e s say:
*  as the obsessive collectors we so obviously are, can we not utilise our
knowledge creatively, become sound consultants, & support the artists whose
music we love.
>>


I've though about doing it for a while.  No big shakes, no twenty dollar
price tags, not even any cover art, unless I get a scanner soon, and even
then it'd be inkjet.  But here's the rub.  How many would like a double CD
of the Three Suns Movin' and Groovin' and Fever and Smoke?  Right?  I'd
have bought a reissue of that, no sweat.  But it's nowhere to be found.  I
have to be happy with six or seven tracks off the RCA comps.

Why is that?

Well, I'm sure it's not the *artists* wish that this stuff isn't out there.
 I'm sure as far as they are concerned, three sales a year is still more
than the ZERO they get paid by RCA for keeping it in the vaults.

The real sham is when people pledge "artists' rights to be paid for their
works!" as the call against bootlegging.

Would the Three Suns even see any money?  A lot of their stuff were covers.
 Were they smart enough back then to ask for percentage, or did they cut
the albums for a fee?  Who are the Three Suns anyway, anymore?  Who would
get the dough?  How much has Esquivel really seen from his reissues?

I'm all for giving artists their due, but my guess is that, with the
current structure of album deals, especially for artists back then, they
would get squat EVEN FROM A LEGITIMATE REISSUE.  How much cash could they
have possibly gotten from the RCA comps?

Another example.  I just heard that some company licensed Dick Hyman's
stuff.  Will he see any of that cash really?  And if so, how much?

Frankly, I'd be more than happy to donate a few bucks from every sold disc
that I pressed of the Three Suns right back to them, if I knew where to
find them.  And they might dig that more, because they'd see more!  But the
lazy record company wouldn't get their cut.


One more argument.
I bought my Three Suns albums from Thrift Stores and resellers: Did they
see any profit from that?  If you refuse to buy my bootleg, but instead
pick them up at a garage sale, where's their take?  What's the difference
at that point, between buying from the guy at the garage sale, and buying
from me?  (As far as the *artist* is concerned.  Natch, buying from the
garage sale guy, you'd own the actual LP!)

Okay, what if they are legitemately reissued, and you run down to the local
used CD store and pick it up for nine bucks.  Score!  But wait, once again
the artist has been STIFFED.  They get no money from the sale of a used CD!


So, now we not only don't buy bootlegs, we no longer buy used CDs, we avoid
taped copies, we don't visit used records stores, thrift stores, garage
sales, record swaps, and so on.

No, we wait until RCA gets moving and actually reissues the discs, which is
the fourth of never, because our little corner of the exotica world has
pretty much lost it's popular momentum.

If RCA truly cared about the "little guy" and the "artist" they'd reissue
their entire back catalog so that the little guy might actually be able to
receive a check!  Think what Leo Addeo or Dick Schory could do with that
cash.  But no, instead, I listen on LP, happy, but they get nothing.


I don't think bootlegging stuff that could be legitimately reissued is the
real problem.  I think it's the fact that we have to "license" stuff from
various record companies, who are too fat to do it themselves, and too
self-indulgent to be realistic about setting fees.
Ask Ashley.  It's not as easy as DES makes it sound.


In any case, if I ever get my act together, I'll produce CDs at cost for
those who want the MUSIC, who would gladly support the artist, if the
infrastructure were there, but in the meantime, just want a hold over until
it either gets a legitamate reissue, or they find the originals on LP.

Know what I mean?


Peter


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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:35:00 -0500
From: Tom Karches <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Anyone heard "Pais Tropical" by Sergio Mendes and Brazil '77?

I found it in a local used book/vinyl/CD store. They wanted $3.98. Is it
worth it?
I already have a lot of his Brazil 'XX stuff....

Thanks,
Tom
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Tom Karches
Systems Programmer, North Carolina State University
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:54:58 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Bullets" over bra-way

At 01:43 PM 1/12/99 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>Don't get me started on Jane's bras!  By the way, thanks to Jane and Drew
>for the fabulous drop-ins they prepared for my radio program.
>
>>You are rather welcome...and that's "Quinn Martian," doll,  not "Drew."
>Yes, when in Boston and up at 6AM, you *must* listen to "Jimmy's Easy."
>But y'all have seen the play-lists...they speak volumes!

Yeah I've seen the playlists but I can only dream about hearing the show.
And that goes double - so to speak - for my dreams about seeing Jane's bra
"in the flesh" so to speak.
(Or "around the flesh" would probably be more accurate.)
(I guess it was inevitable with all those cheesecake covers and bachelor
pad dreams that I'd finally reveal my true self.  Sorry for introducing
sexual harassment to the exotica list.)

Yes my life would be so much better if I could just be in Boston where I
could see Jane's bra, listen to Jimmy's show and hang out with guys named
Quinn Martian.

But what would I do between those cherished moments?  Whether I lived in
Boston or Toronto, ultimately I'd still be a guy alone in his apartment
making tapes and dreaming of a better life in another place with people who
would make my life better for me.
I mean, I know a guy here named Hank Sinatra but do I hang out with him?
No.  Then again, that could have something to do with the fact that he's
born again Christian.

And speaking of making tapes, I've been making lounge and exotica tapes the
last couple of days in an attempt to move the "new arrivals" out of the
cramped living room and onto the shelves where they belong.
And I'm getting really frustrated.  I can't find a cut that I can imagine
wanting to hear again.
I think I'm getting sick of this stuff.
Mitchell Ayres, Urbie Green, Manny Albam...
I practically broke a couple of Charles Magnate records last night trying
to find one three minute cut that would end a side.
Everything sounds a bit too much like "Lady of Spain" or something.
And that Persuasive/Provocative sound can really wear you down... till you
just want to punch the guy before he can take another one of those clever
marimba breaks.

My life would be so much easier if everything was as good as Living
Percussion's "Jungle Fantasy" or the Three Suns "Danny's Inferno" or even
Buddy Merrill doing "Out of this World".

Especially if I could listen to tunes like that in my lonely room in Boston.

Nat



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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:44:17 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Bullets" over bra-way

In a message dated 99-01-12 17:38:27 EST, Nat writes:

<< Yes my life would be so much better if I could just be in Boston where I
 could see Jane's bra, listen to Jimmy's show and hang out with guys named
 Quinn Martian. >>

I could not have said it better.

(Wiping a tear from my eye),

Robert


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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:57:10
From: Jay Schwartz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Secret Cinema presents EXOTICA FILMS 2: Music and More! at Fez

The Secret Cinema presents
EXOTICA FILMS 2: Music and More! at Fez

Fez, 380 Lafayette Street
(between E. 4th & Great Jones)
New York City =95 [phone]

On Friday, January 29, the Secret Cinema will present EXOTICA FILMS 2:
Music and More! at Fez. This collection of ultra-rare footage will showcase
a unique collection of filmed musical performances from a variety of
offbeat jazz, pop, and rock artists from around the globe. The films come
from a variety of sources, including very early TV shows, film jukeboxes
from the 1940s ("Soundies") and 1960s ("Scopitones"), and select feature
film clips. This long awaited follow-up to the Secret Cinema's EXOTICA
MUSIC FILMS program of a year and a half ago features 100% new programming
- -- little of which is likely to have been seen before by anybody attending!

Doors open at 8:30 pm. The screening begins at 9:00 pm. Admission is $8.00.

As with all Secret Cinema presentations, all of the films will be projected
from archival 16mm film prints onto a giant movie screen (not video).

Just some of the performers shown on the big screen will include: Astrud
Gilberto, Desi Arnaz, Sylvie Vartan, Trini Lopez, Johnny Hallyday and
Carmen Miranda.=20

Adding extra spice to this celluloid smorgasboard is a selection of equally
arcane short subjects, without musicians but plenty of exoticism:
Technicolor travelogues of Caribbean isles, coming attraction "trailers"
for Maria Montez movies, a 1920s silent film on "Ceylon Devil Dancers and
Buddas," and a look at tiki carving and other customs of the South Seas.

Plus, scenes from a never-shown-in-the-U.S. French TV special, WORLD MUSIC
ET SETECT, featuring organ jazz/pop-rock instro combo Andr=E9 Brasseur et=
 son
Orchestre, Peter Max-like animation and pop-art special effects.=20

Plus, a sampling of DISK JOCKEY TV TOONS. These lost artifacts from early
50s broadcasting were marketed to local television stations for use as
filler programming during Hit Parade-type shows. The low-budget, bizarre
visualizations are essentially rock videos with no soundtracks, and were
made to be shown with suggested popular records.

And if all this weren't enough, there will be a special talk about the
history of film jukeboxes by Secret Cinema curator Jay Schwartz,
illustrated with color slides of rare photos and original advertising
materials.=20

The Secret Cinema, begun in 1992, is a Philadelphia-based floating
repertory film series that shows unusual and lost film fare of all types at
various locations.





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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:06:57 -0800 (PST)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Bullets" over bra-way


> In a message dated 99-01-12 17:38:27 EST, Nat writes:
>
> << Yes my life would be so much better if I could just be in Boston
where I
>  could see Jane's bra, listen to Jimmy's show and hang out with guys
named
>  Quinn Martian. >>
>
> I could not have said it better.
>
> (Wiping a tear from my eye),
>
> Robert

Yes Nat & Robert you are so right.  Nat by himself, Robert in a beach
music town and me in the Big Easy, the new rap capital of America.
With all the rythm & blues, dixieland jazz and rap going on here
Trader Vics in Pensacola, which is the nearest exotica I can think of,
 seems so far away.   I hope its still open.

I would wipe a tear from my eye except for the fact that its time to
go get ready for Mardis Gras
Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 99 18:34:57 -0400
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone heard "Pais Tropical" by Sergio Mendes and

>I found it in a local used book/vinyl/CD store. They wanted $3.98. Is it
>worth it?
>I already have a lot of his Brazil 'XX stuff....

It's worth it if you want it...

When I have "a lot of" somebody and I see an album for four bucks I
usually get it. The only things that stop me are; poor condition; if I
see this record all the time and think I might someday score it for 50
cents; abysmal song selection; and last but not least depends upon the
presence of the "do I *really* need this" factor that sometimes
overwhelms me.

Or think of it this way: How much is your time worth? Is it worth four
bucks to avoid all the time you will spend sitting around wondering if
that album could have been really really great.

I myself drew the Mendes line with '66. I have everything up to
"Stillness" which was the last Brazil '66 album. It came out in 1970.
Pais Tropical by Brazil'77 came out in 1971 but, I believe that the
change to '77 coincided with the departure of Lani Hall, who really had
the signature voice of that group. So in short, I myself would offer $2
and settle for $3, just to hear the damned thing and probably get rid of
it. (My rent a record theory in action.)

Frank


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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:23:48 -0800
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Bootlegging

Well, I must say, I did not expect so much to-do over nothing, if this
discussion is centered around my recent post about wanting to do some
bootlegging and hopefully break-even.

There is a lot of interesting insight out there, and even more than one
offer to help legitimately release some REAL INTERESTING MATERIAL! (Don't
ask, as I am sworn to secrecy)
>
> <<
> d e s say:
> *  as the obsessive collectors we so obviously are, can we not utilise our
> knowledge creatively, become sound consultants, & support the
> artists whose
> music we love.
> >>

I think d e s is taking things a little too seriously, but bless him, he is
RIGHT. One ought to at least ask before assuming that the label is gonna
stonewall the idea. So ask. If they say no, go and make 1000 copies. Copy
the cover and reproduce the liners. Give a few tor key radio stations and
sell then rest for as LITTLE as possible, and don't even think twice about
anyone ever questioning your motives. Pat yourself on the back for making
more of this available at a reasonable price - thereby poking holes in the
greedy economics of the "rare-record" types. (Disclaimer - there are some
real good ones out there too. patronize them and pay them whatever they
ask.)

I have been seeing a lot of really CRAPPY overpriced bootlegs recently. This
is WRONG! It's mercenary and wrong. I bought a few sight-unseen and was
HORRIFIED by the shabby presentation, lack of liners and profiteering
attitude of the purveyor. I expected more. Maybe bootlegging bootleggers is
a good idea.

Furthermore, I am still trying to work the bugs out of distributing computer
files on the CD's so that labels can be reproduced for further cassette
copies and CD copies..... Neat huh? I suppose if it one were to follow the
shareware model, one could include the address of the artist and suggest
that payments be sent there for each copy made. I bet the artist would get
more this way than from the RCA disbursement office.

As for the promised bootleg, well it appears my CD burner died. Perhaps the
ghost (or estate of) some long-past session musician has haunted my efforts.
Though I hope to make some announcements soon.

Ron



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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:45:39 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re:  "Bullets" over bra-way

We're working on the audionet stuff Jane. Its just that its only a MIT radio
station. You would think the spewing fountain of all east coast techspeak
could at least get it rolling, but NOOOO!


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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:17:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Ahmad Jamal

Jamal has  a "Naked City" album which has a great out of focus photo of
Metropolis circa 1963 or so with double colored streetlights and slanted photo
angle. Its kinda Ramsey Lewis-like and damned interesting


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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:02:33 -0500
From: "Brian Tozer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exoticanewbie thanks!

Thanks everyone for the public & private replies to my "basic
library" question!
I've got all sorts of ideas now, and I've already spent my grocery
money for the next month on music...ah, but what music!!
Brian


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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:06:36 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mo' art

Speaking of art, paintings by our own Moritz R can be viewed here:

http://www.jett.net/~gyra/moritz/moritz.html

and here:

http://evolver.at/frankieboy/galerie.html

(hope you don't mind, Mo)

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:20:01 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Carnival of Souls is here!!!

Hey Kids!


Uncle Jack has gotta treat for you!


IT'S HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE!!!


Original Soundtrack (O.S.T)


CARNIVAL OF SOULS - CD ONLY



37 TRACKS, 4 NEVER USED IN THE FILM


A few spoken word weirdities and the rest instrumental organ from the
bowels of hell:)

YUM YUM


O.S.T.: Carnival Of Souls CD "In 1962 an industrial filmmaker named Herk
Harvey set out to make a feature length horror movie. With the help of
writer John Clifford he made Carnival of Souls -- the story of a girl who
survives a car crash only to find herself haunted by ghouls. The movie
played a meager run at drive-ins and later wound up as a staple on late
night TV. In the late 80s it was re-released as an art house film and won
a surprising amount of acclaim -- even People magazine ran a feature on
it. George Romero has cited the film as the primary influence on Night Of
The Living Dead and its dark eeriness is still unsettling by today's
standards. One feature that enhances the film's creepiness to great
effect is the pipe organ score of Gene Moore which is simultaneously
atmospheric and chilling --


Imagine Korla Pandit's never recorded Halloween album... BUT BETTER THAN
THAT


This is the first time ever the soundtrack to this cult classic complete
with stand out bits of dialog from the film and music that was recorded
for the film which hit the cutting room floor, has ever seen the light of
day or the dark of night. This is music that guarantees nightmares.

10 Stars


Liner Notes:

Were it not for Gene Moore's organ music in CARNIVAL OF SOULS, about 50%
of the film would have been SILENT.

Producer Herk Harvey knew money would be tight, so he asked me (John
Clifford) to write a script that called for little on-street dialogue and
post-dubbing.

Gene Moore's score and organ playing marvelously filled those silences
with the kinds of audio moods, tensions and linkages our sensibilities
relish.

All 3 of us were accustomed to working in the field of non-theatrical
films, where each specialist

was expected to do his job fast and effectively.  Harvey started shooting
CARNIVAL OF SOULS the day after I finished the 2nd draft of the script
and Gene Moore's organ was introduced into the sound mix the day after he
recorded it.

In short, everybody was loose and did a lot of creative improvising.

The result, as many reviews of this film and of its musical score attest,
can sometimes be surprising

John Clifford-Screenwriter



Titles;  Introduction, Departure, I Don't Know About That Girl, Interlude
# 1,

Travel Music, 1st Visitation, 2nd Visitation, You Can't Live In
Isolation, Stirring The Soul, 1st Trip To The Carnival, Hot Bath, Church
Organ # 1, 3rd Visitation, Storm, Church is Just The Place of Business,
Haunted, Let's Have No More Nights, Interlude # 2, Dark Entry (he he he
he he), As If I Didn't Exist, 2nd Trip To The Carnival, Dark Footsteps,
Profane-Sacrilege, At The Bar #1, At The Bar # 2, Left Alone, 2nd
Departure, Eastbound Bus, Isolation,

I Don't Know What's Real Anymore, Carnival of Souls (!!!), Mary's Theme,

Herk Harvey Speaks, Church Organ 2*, Church Organ 3*, Psycho Carnival
Organ*, Carnival Rock*

* Denotes not included in film


This soundtrack has NEVER been released in any format until NOW!

Holy crap.


Original Soundtrack (O.S.T)


CARNIVAL OF SOULS - CD ONLY


18 bucks shipped in the US

20$ shipped overseas


Visa/Mastercard Accepted


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Spoken Word Beatnik  Poetry et al...,

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One of a Kind CD/LP 1950's-70's Re-Issues and Original Out of Print LP's
for sale and trade.


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 07:44:33 +0100
From: Bissia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: bootleggin' - one resolution

The same for me Des: never.
thanks for your fair view and resolution.

>as for bootlegging, i .__never._ gonna do it.


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 99 07:44:39 +0100
From: Bissia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) I need some exotic breack

See as subject say,
this is what I need as I feel it's getting way to cold here
and I haven't been moving away from Belgium
( apart for UK/Holland/North France ) for years.
So where do you suggest as a not too expensive but
still exoticatalsitic site for a little breakup away from these
now cold sites of Europe ... ?
Any ideas welcome and as subject is quite TAN you
can respond privately if you desire.

Thank you for your understanding


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:09:21 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) bootleggin' - one resolution

At 11:56 AM 12-01-99 +0000, Desmond K. Hill wrote:
>many of these artists
>are still alive, yet their creativity is no longer recognised & they are
>not encouraged to continue working.

Desmond has a point.  A good example is Ruth Wallis, a wonderful singer and
songwriter of the late 40's through at least the 60's.  The only way she could
record and get her great double entendre songs out there was to form her own
company.  Eventually King re-released the material...but it really hasn't
been available.  Many people who recognized how cool her music is have
wanted to re-distribute the recordings.  In fact, one person tried to do
just that. Ms. Wallis was dismayed at the approach and made sure to get the
master tapes back from him after his initial cassette release came out.
Since then, she has been trying to do a good job with her music and get it
out the right way.  She could see there was interest and now, because of
the demand, she herself has found a way to re-release her classics!

I think we should all do what we can to get these great recordings released
legitimately so that those who created them reap the benefits...AND we, as
listeners, can enjoy them as well.

If we bother to check into the rights, try to find the artist, work together
on some of this, we might get a better quality CD and one that can benefit
the musician as well.

On the other hand, if nothing pans out...then I think the bootlegging approach
makes some sense.  In the Ruth Wallis case, however, I think bootlegging would
have hurt the chances for a good release of her material.

By the way, to find out more about the Ruth Wallis CD, check out this
webpage (as referred to me by Ms. Wallis's cousin):

http://www.ruthwallis.iuma.com




Byron



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http://www.hubris.net/zolac
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:09:41 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) To B(ootleg) or not to B(ootleg)?

At 03:12 PM 12-01-99 -0500, Naile wrote:
>My copy of the Blade Runner soundtrack on CD is from Off-World Music, who
>did a "private" printing of 2000 copies.  This is far superior to the
>"legit" release which contains little music actually *from* the movie.

Are you referring to the New American Theatre Orchestra soundtrack (or
whatever they called themselves) which tried to copy Vangelis's original
stuff?  Well,
Vangelis finally gave in the pressure (or something happened anyway) and
all of his music from the film was released in a complete CD.  The story I
heard was that Blade Runner followed on the heels of Chariots of Fire,
another popular Vangelis soundtrack...but Vangelis didn't want to be known
as a soundtrack artist, so didn't want his music released. His official
explanation is rather vague.  As he wrote "Finding myself unable to release
these recordings at the time, it is with great pleasure that I am able to
do so now."  He did not explain why he was unable to release then. Later,
he did release some of the music on the Polydor Themes CD (which I promptly
bought).  That may have spurred the complete release.  By the way, I got
rid of my first soundtrack recording once the REAL Vangelis soundtrack
became available (on Atlantic) in 1994.

Byron

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:03:39 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tikis for loan in So Calif??

Aloha, There is a Edger Leeteg show coming up feb. 6th at the huntington beach
art center and the curator is looking  for some tikis to put in the lobby. If
you or anyone you know would like to display a couple ( on loan with
transportation and set up), please contact Greg Escalante at, [phone].

email:

HAPPY [e-mail]


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:04:38 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Bardot A Go Go

Liftoff Productions presents
Bardot A Go Go part two

Sixties French Pop
Sexy soundtracks
EuroPop
Psych
from the Castle Pink Frankenstein DJs

in an authentically recreated Paris Discotheque

Friday, Jan 15, 9:00 pm
The Cocodrie
1024 Kearny near Broadway, San Fran


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:05:37 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) more on The Clermont

Yes, I have been to The Clermont quite a few times. It is located in the
basement of the old Clermont Hotel a couple of blocks down the street
from my apartment (I live in a neighborhood roughly equivilant to where
you live in the Mission District but a little less residential and a
little more seedy at times, prostitutes on my corner, needles in the
trash, stuff like that).

It is an interesting place, definitely something to see if not to go to
often (I haven't been in a while, no reason, just haven't been out there
recently). It looks like a set straight out of your seedy Las Vegas
nightmare with a small bar, a dance floor, rickety tables and red velvet
wallpaper. The drinks are cheap and strong and use suprisingly good
liquor (best deal in Atlanta) and all of the beer is in cans (they don't
want to give the patrons weapons), it is the only place I have ever seen
Heineken in a can. On a stage inside of the perimeter of the bar there
will be a sucession of strippers dancing completely nude to music they
select from the jukebox (they have to pay for their own music). These
are the strippers who can't work at any of the more upscale clubs in
town, the Clermont is the absolute bottom. These will be the old
strippers with sagging breasts or the fat ones or the young and
attractive ones who try to hide the needle marks all up and down their
arms and thighs. You tip them while they dance and be sure you do or
they will track you down after their set and brace you for some tips, if
you become known for not tipping you will be banned. The dancers drink
with the partons between sets and their is a little bit of hooking going
on but not too much really.

The true celebrity of the Clermont (though she has gotten too big for
her own good now) is Blondie. Blondie is a 45 (?) year old black woman
with dyed blonde hair, a bit overweight. She is a lesbian, poet,
stripper who stars in her own comic book series, recites poetry while
dancing, crushes beer cans between her breasts for $5, likes to knock
frat boys silly with her swinging breasts and tried to steal my date
from me there one night.

If you ever come by Atlanta I will be sure to take you there, it is
something which has to be seen at least once.

- --
Paul McKay
Assistant Engineer

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500 10TH ST NW
ATLANTA, GA 30318
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:41:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Calling all radio DJ's

how bout non-radio djs?
ie live in the bar/club djs.


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 04:42:12 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Shag (working with)

>just wanted to make a public "thank you" to one of the nicest artists i've
ever met!

I second that motion
Extremely professional too

can't beat him
(I'm a graphic designer also!)

Otto


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:17:44 -0500
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Towa Tei

I heard the new Towa Tei album the other day, and it was alright, but there
were a few tracks that were really cool.

If anyone has the CD and can make MP3's or anything, please let me know and
maybe we could trade.

Thanks!
Peter

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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 08:52:30 -0500
From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Moog and Me

Just got Hyman's Electric Eclectics on Varese Sarabande, and I must say,
I'm not particularly impressed.  If you read the liner notes, it's mostly a
lot of "improvisation", which doesn't particularly cut it.  Maybe a better
term would be "noodling".  Vaguely interesting, but I consider it a
beginning, not a finished product.  Once you're done noodling, it's time to
take what you learned and apply it seriously.  Unfortunately (for me),
nothing really swings on this album.  Though I don't think he wanted it
too.  It's really much more a serious twentieth century Moog study...
I'll listen some more, but I am disappointed.  Although I'm glad I didn't
shell out the thirty bucks for the vinyl.

On the flipside, it has these two other tunes stuck on there.  Are these
from The Age of Electronicus?  How's the rest of that album.  That may be
the one I want...  Or maybe not.


In addition, I got the first Moog Cookbook album.  And while I *love* the
second, this one doesn't float my boat particularly either.  Maybe I just
don't like Moog albums.  But this first one seems really really raw.  Some
of the covers aren't much better than Casiotone recordings.  Something your
kid brother might have done with his first synth and three dollars worth of
sheet music.
Now they do occasionally show real brilliance, like the sitar section of
Smells Like Teen Spirit.  Boy would I have loved to hear them to a full on
cover of that with sitar and tablas.  That would have rocked.
Other sections show real promise too, they just never really come to fruition.


Finally I got Cornelius' million-seller.  Some of the tunes are pretty
good, but most end up as just alright.  I haven't heard the whole thing
yet, but once again, I'm tired of buying things I haven't heard before!
All these things that are supposed to be so great and I spend my
hard-earned cash, only to be disappointed.  Sigh.



Finally, on the thrift front, I picked up a record by Bruce Prince-Joseph,
King of the HiFi Harpsichord.  Not bad.  If you like organ music in
general, you'll probably like this. There are a few tracks that are worthy
of airplay or mix tapes and the rest are decent enough that I'll probably
dub it to disc for my listening pleasure.

On the same trip I picked up Ding Dong Dandy Christmas, beat, but
listenable. Both for a quarter.
You can find good stuff in thrifts.  Even a casual thrifter like me.  It
does happen!

Peter


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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:07:47 -0500
From: "naile" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) To B(ootleg) or not to B(ootleg)?

Actually, when I state "incomplete", I'm referring to the Atlantic release.
Yes, it claims to contain "unreleased tracks" that "never made it into the
movie", however, compared to the Off-World Music relase (Catolog # 9301), it
sadly, dims in comparison (imho).  The "unreleased tracks" contain what
sounded to me, as new recordings of pieces to be used as filler.  Again,
this is my (albeit harsh) opinon, and I don't want to come off sounding like
"nyah nyah I got something cool!" (<grin>) 'cuz I'm not.  I can post a track
listing if you're interested.  Off the top of my head (I don't have it at
work with me, today), I can tell you it has 18 tracks, and runs about 72-74
minutes.  It also contains the Ladd Company theme, as well audio of the
original trailer.  There's also a bootleg version of the soundtrack from
Romania, that is again a little more complete than the Atlantic release.
You might check eBay, as both of these tend to go up for auction once in a
while, or some of the usual soundtrack resources (S.T.A.R. Records in PA, or
Footlights Music).  I found out about this on usenet, originally, and
happened to be living near S.T.A.R. Records at the time.  Like I said, got
lucky.  :)

Sorry for the confusion.

- -Kev


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From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1999 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: (exotica) To B(ootleg) or not to B(ootleg)?

>Are you referring to the New American Theatre Orchestra soundtrack (or
>whatever they called themselves) which tried to copy Vangelis's original
>stuff?  Well,
>Vangelis finally gave in the pressure (or something happened anyway) and
>all of his music from the film was released in a complete CD.
>became available (on Atlantic) in 1994.




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