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exotica-digest       Wednesday, December 2 1998       Volume 02 : Number 256



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) Re: Burning CD's
(exotica) Hanson = More signs of end times
(exotica) Hanson = More signs of end times
(exotica) Dave Pike-Got The Feelin' CD
(exotica) Special CD's
(exotica) Re:  Elvis/Burt etc.
(exotica) Son of Yet More CD Recordable
(exotica) Michel Magne -Tropical Fantasy
(exotica) A View To A(n) Elvis/Burt
Re: (exotica) Son of Yet More CD Recordable
RE: (exotica) Son of Yet More CD Recordable
(exotica) Re: extra Lps
(exotica) F&T Fireworks
(exotica) Finding Vinyl
(exotica) Cheap Blank CDs
(exotica) Bragging Rights
(exotica) Soft & Easy
(exotica) French weirdotica
(exotica) Album Frames
Re: (exotica) Re: Burning CD's
(exotica) Sergio Mendes/Otto live
RE: (exotica) Album Frames and the need to display
Re: (exotica) Cheap Blank CDs
Re: (exotica) F&T Fireworks
(exotica) Making CDs into Records - ish
(exotica) Re: Making records into CDs
(exotica) OBIT: Johnny Roventini
Re: (exotica) F&T Fireworks
(exotica) Do all child actors go bad sooner or later?
(exotica) Bollywood Bullshit
Re: (exotica) Bollywood Bullshit
Re: (exotica) Bollywood Bullshit

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:03:16 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Burning CD's

At 01:37 AM 12/1/98 EST, Brian Karasick wrote:

> I do know of many people who replaced entire record
>collections with CD equivqlents...

I know it's kind of late in the game to still be talking about vinyl vs CD.
(Well actually I have reason to hope that it's still an interesting topic
to some people but that's another story.)
But I guess I want to know, do you actually know people who replaced their
entire collections or is this one of those urban myths where it happened to
a friend of a friend?
I can't imagine what that means, "replaced their entire collection".
Unless they had one of those collections that consists of twenty or thirty
records.
The concept of somebody re-buying a whole collection on the new format
boggles my mind frankly and I don't think I believe that anyone actually
did that.
First of all, when CD's came out there weren't that many records that you
could replace.  And I still don't think you could replace your whole
Captain Beefheart collection.
But that's not even the part that confuses my pretty little head.
You have some old Aynsley Dunbar Retaliation record or the first record by
"If" or Every Mother's Son or the first Association record which you got
for your bar mitzvah and you've never been able to part with it.  You
hardly ever play these things but you like having them... which is sort of
what having a "collection" means
Then CD's come out and you go out looking to replace them????
I think not.  At least I hope not.
I replaced three records which I sold during my "vinyl purge" period and
I've gotten two of them back on vinyl and would still love to find the
third one... which was by Prince Lasha and Sonny Simmons, in case you're
interested.

I'd love to hear any stories anyone has of someone "replacing" substantial
collections.  And did they keep replacing them when the newer and better 20
bitmap (or whatever) versions came out?

And by the way, I think you'll always be able to replace your cartridge.

Nat



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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:36:34 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Hanson = More signs of end times

In a message dated 98-12-01 12:25:43 EST, Fondle writes:

<< I know, probably someone on this list into Hanson will probably flame me.
>>

And if those Hanson lovers are found out they will be kindly (but forceably)
asked to leave.

And could you please keep it down, I'm trying to listen to my Captian and
Tenelle albums which I have transfered to cassette then to CD.  And by the
way, is there a way to transfer CD back to vinyl?  I miss stacking the records
and hearing them "plop".

Robert


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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 16:52:45 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hanson = More signs of end times

At 04:36 PM 12/1/98 EST, Robert wrote:
>And if those Hanson lovers are found out they will be kindly (but forceably)
>asked to leave.

So if Gus Van Sant subscribed, we'd have to corner him in a shower and do
away with him as the violins shreaked?!?
>
> And by the
>way, is there a way to transfer CD back to vinyl?  I miss stacking the records
>and hearing them "plop".

Dunno 'bout that, but you could get one of those refurbished jukeboxes that
play CDs.

- -Lou




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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 14:45:36 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dave Pike-Got The Feelin' CD

Just Added

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Pounding Beats, Greasy Hammond Organ, Super Heavy Bass,
Rough Rhythm Guitars, Screaming Funky Electric Lead Guitar and Vibes like
you've never heard before!  I shit you NOT!

Titles;  Got the Feelin', Spooky, Shady Street, You Got It Made, Brown's
Hometown, Do You Know The Way To San Jose ?, El-Die-Bie!, After a Moments
Reflection, No Sweat, Bacon Fat, Middle Earth Herd, Which Direction

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Please e-mail direct at [e-mail] if interested

Only 24 Shopping Days Left Until XMas!!!




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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:06:48 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Special CD's

JUST IN

**LIMITED QUANTITES**

CD-R's, freakin' incredible sound fidelity and extra EXTRA special CD art.
Great art on the CD itself

Original Album Cover Art

1)
Richard Hayman's Genuine Electric Latin Love Machine backed with
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GELLM features the Electric Sitar and Guitar with Effects of Vinnie Bell
with Walter Sear on the Moog in a Latin Love Festival of Outre' Sounds
Not Heard Anywhere Else on the Planet

Spaced Out is THE ULTIMATE Pa Pa Pa Pa Pa Pa Wordless Vocal and Group
Vocals "Instrumental" LP with Powerhouse Brass Sections, Electric Guitars
and Moog.

2)
2 of the greatest Beatnik Spoken Word Tongue In Cheek LP's ever recorded;
Del Close and John Brent-How To Speak Hip backed with
The Wide Weird World of Shorty Petterstein (World Pacific, 1958)

SP is totally designed to screw with your head in a manner never heard
before.  It is 1 of the true mind fucks of the century right up there with
the other tops of the top.
Totally cool Beatnik full tilt

How to Speak Hip is of course, well, self explanatory:)
A lesson for you to follow if you do truly want to speak hip
Wanna be a beatnik ?  These 2 are your guides

Only 24 Shopping Days til XMas Left!

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 98 18:05:33 PST
From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Elvis/Burt etc.

I just finally had a chance to listen to "Painted from Memory" and I
thought it was a successful project for both Elvis Costello and Burt
Bacharach.  I do understand how Elvis's vocals can rub the wrong way (there
was one song I had to abandon), but much in the same way a strong coffee
can complement a sweet dessert, I thought his roughish vocals provided a
nice contrast to the elegant and refined arrangements.  For the record, I
am a former fan of Elvis who hasn't listened to anything else he's done for
10+ years.

And speaking of "aging rockers" reinventing themselves with pop/exotic
airs, I also liked Todd Rundgren's "With a Twist," on which he
re-interprets several of his own songs with bossa/island-ish arrangements.
The version of "Hello It's Me" with it's deliberate appropriation of Martin
Denny's "Quiet Village" sound is especially fine, IMO.

I also like the latest effort from Saint Etienne.  On this, they shed some
of the more "clubby dancefloor" emphasis of prior recordings and instead
offer up tasty pop tunes with some '60s now/mod/bubblegum flavor.  Good
arrangements and solid pop smarts overall.

Three positive reviews in one posting.  Feeling very easy today.

- -- Brad


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:22:49 -0500
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Son of Yet More CD Recordable

>Is there no way you can just patch your regular
>old CD Player into your recordable CD ROM and (even in real time speed - 1X)
>just copy the CD?

Well, yes, apparently there are a few units on the market that do this,
such as:

http://www-us.sv.philips.com/sound/cdr/products/range/760/

for $500 or so. This (theoretically) senses silence to mark the track index
numbers, and is able to record from anolog inputs. But I quote from the
Philips website:

"Philips CD-Recorders will only
make recordings on CD-R and CD-RW discs bearing the `audio' logo. These
discs are subject to levies which are payable to copyright protection
associations in various countries."

So these "audio" blanks are really $5?!? Ay Chihuahua, that means more
money is going into the industry slush fund than to the manufacturer of the
media. . . Who gets all that dough, anyway?

sputteringly,

- --Ross


p.s.
>I would recommend the PC-type  to anyone with
>a Pentium PC (or powermac) and sufficient drive space ( a spare 100 megs

I'm doing it with a lowly 25MHz Quadra and Toast. But the disk space is the
killer--it takes 10MB per minute of audio.

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 15:47:04 PST
From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Michel Magne -Tropical Fantasy

Just wanted to tell anyone interested in this rare LP that Dusty Groove
has it for sale now. Quite expensive, but then extremely weird and
wonderful and well worth the price. In fact it is priceless. Got my copy
recently from Stefan (thanks buddy!) after a long time looking for it.

And while I am on the subject, anyone heard his "Seismic shock in the
year 2773","Human symphony" or "Cape Canevaral" that is mentioned on the
back of the LP?

Magnus

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:46:50 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A View To A(n) Elvis/Burt

At 06:05 PM 12/1/98 PST, you B.Yost:
>I just finally had a chance to listen to "Painted from Memory" and I
>thought it was a successful project for both Elvis Costello and Burt
>Bacharach.

And you've gotta give these guys credit for *working* this CD! Usually
there's a couple weeks of promo push with a new release and then it's on to
the Next Big Thing. These two seem to have committed several serious months
to promoting this disc. Their next US network appearance is this Thursday,
ABC, 11AM on The View. Can't imagine what the interview segment with them
will be like, but it should be a (unintentional?) hoot!

- -Lou




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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 19:10:15 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Son of Yet More CD Recordable

>So these "audio" blanks are really $5?!? Ay Chihuahua, that means more
>money is going into the industry slush fund than to the manufacturer of the
>media. . . Who gets all that dough, anyway?

I'm sure the majors are dreaming of ways to have audio devices
automatically transfer a fee from your personal account to their coffers
EVERY time you hit play OR record.

They'll call it consumer convenience.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:06:07 -0800
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Son of Yet More CD Recordable

>
> >So these "audio" blanks are really $5?!? Ay Chihuahua, that means more
> >money is going into the industry slush fund than to the
> manufacturer of the
> >media. . . Who gets all that dough, anyway?
>
I'll say it again, so the point does not get lost:

You can BYPASS this and use the cheapie blanks that are EXACTLY the same
with the exception of a special code that identifies the 'spensive ones to
the machine. Also, Marantz makes units that don't require the special disks
at all.

Philips and other companies will come around OR get BONED in the
marketplace. (I hope, but I would hve bet on Beta over VHS and Apple over
Wintel)



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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 17:18:33 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: extra Lps

Hello!

Looks like everyone needs a copy of George Cates' Polynesian Percussion
and Symphony of the Birds...but my extras are gone.

I found some other doubles that will go to the thrift store unless
someone dearly needs them (I'll send them for 50 cents each plus postage:
no more no less than my expenses).

Buddy Morrow Impact RCA LPM 2042  (not as good as Double Impact, but still
  good)
Chuck Sagle  Ping Pong Percussion Epic BN 568 (stereo)
  (Harry Breuer, Willie Rodriguez, Phil Kraus and Ted Sommers featured
percussionists)
Percussion On Stage  Maury Laws Orchestra  Time S 2027 (Phil Kraus, Bob
     Rosengarten, Al Caiola ... but no gatefold as usual with Time)
Blue Hawaii  Billy Vaughn  Dot DLP 25165 (great cover, ok music)

Byron

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:14:04 -0500
From: Risser Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) F&T Fireworks

I got an album by Ferrante and Teicher called "Fireworks"
Does anyone know if this is the same or different than "Hi-Fireworks"?
My guess is, different, but it looks interesting.

It's en route from FL so I haven't heard it yet.

By the way, is it Teeecher or Tye-cher?

Anyone, Anyone?
Peter


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:44:11 -0500
From: Risser Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Finding Vinyl

Anyone know of any good stores for used vinyl available over the internet. (I tried GEMM already.)
Or, if I have a specific title in mind, anyone know of any services who will hunt it down?

Thanks,
Peter


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:04:25 -0500
From: Risser Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cheap Blank CDs

As long as we're on the subject, I read all over that CDs are 1 to 2 =
dollars for blanks.  I'll be damned if I can find any good discs for =
lower than two bucks these days.  Anyone have any favorite cheap =
mail-order places?

Peter


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:20:49 -0500
From: Risser Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bragging Rights

Finally I gots some.

I hit a place called Bananas Records in St. pete Florida over the =
Thanksgiving weekend and scoured up seventy records at three for a =
dollar.  Included in the bunch were a die-cut original pressing of =
Movin' and Groovin', Persuasive Percussion, Provocative Percussion (1 =
and 3), Quincy Jones plays Henry Mancini, my very first copy of Quiet =
Village, plus three other Denny albums, my very first copy of Tabu, =
eight or so Lenny Dee albums, tons of Command rekkids, Montenegro's =
Greatest and a mint copy of Crazy World of Arthur Brown ("I am the God =
of Hellfire!") plus bunch of other goodies.  Needless to say, I'm quite =
psyched.

Then I went to a dealer and bought a mint mint mint condition of =
Thunderball (it's SOO beautiful!), a Billy Mure Teen Age Bossa Nova, the =
Odd Couple Soundtrack and a few others.  These cost me a pretty penny, =
but in the end it averages out.

Pray for me, as I shipped 'em UPS.

peter


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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 22:19:07 -0500
From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soft & Easy

The Cd compilation I can't stop playing these days is
"Soft & Easy," on the Wagram Label from France.  Lots of
French lush pop (Czerkinsky), electronics (Jean-Jacques Perry
with David Chazam), North American stuff (Combustible Edison,
April March)and a consistent level of excellence that has
me pushing the "Play" button every time it ends.  It's bumped
Easy Tempo vol. 6 (the best of the series, in my view) from the
CD player.  Magnifique!  Richard, the guy in Disquivel, where I
bought "Soft & Easy," complained that this kind of stuff wasn't
selling much anymore.

I'm back from Alberta, where a trip to the antique/thrift stores
south of Calgary turned up a near-mint copy of Esquivel's
"Infinity of Sound" for $2.00.  In a thrift store, I found
Jury Krytiuk Orchestra & Chorus, "A Portrait of Burt Bacharach".
Who is Jury Krytiuk?  It seems he's the forgotten kingpin behind
Canadian music of the 1960s:  "Having developed a winning
combination for Stompin' Tom Connnors of Boot Records in the
country field, Mr. Krytiuk, who is by the way, owner of Boot and
Cynda Records, decided to diversify into other types of music.  He
has since produced Sean Dunphy, Ireland's top balladeer, Humphrey
and the Dumptrucks, an up-and-coming folk country group from
Western Canada, and this his latest achievement "A Portrait of Burt
Bacharach."  Canadians will know how much this all means.

Calgary must be the martini capital of Canada, and I was ready to
burn my membership card after a weekend.  The menu for every two-bit bar
has long
lists of novelty cocktails at $6.00 each, and you sense that none
of them existed 3 years ago.
 -------------------------------------------------
Will Straw, PhD
Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University

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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 98 22:57:30 -0400
From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) French weirdotica

I must recommend a recent purchase: <La tele des tout p'tits> (FGL,
France). It came out in 1993 and compiles 27 themes from French kids TV
shows from the 60s and 70s. Many good names pop up: Michel Legrand
(singing "Oum le dauphin" himself), Vladimir Cosma, Francis Lai, Andre
Popp, and especially Francois de Roubaix, whose themes for "Chapi Chapo"
and "Pepin la bulle" are brilliantly zany. I found myself singing along
enthusiastically (as just about every French person in their 30s would);
as an added bonus the liner notes are a hoot.

Elisabeth


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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:46:18 -0500
From: Risser Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Album Frames

I've got a catalog from the Restoration Hardware store that lists album frames.
12 x 12 inch frames that are thick enough to house an album, record and all.
Anyone else seen anything like this?
These are 13 bucks a pop, which is pretty expensive.
Still, I've got a few albums I'd LOVE to display...


Peter


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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 00:26:19 -0500
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Burning CD's

Nat Kone wrote:
>
> But I guess I want to know, do you actually know people who replaced their
> entire collections or is this one of those urban myths where it happened to
> a friend of a friend?
> I can't imagine what that means, "replaced their entire collection".
> Unless they had one of those collections that consists of twenty or thirty
> records.

Well, judging from the number of used records I picked up in the early
90s, a lot of people were getting rid of a large portion of their
collections.  I know many people who don't even have a turntable any
more, so they just junked their vinyl, and bought whatever on CD.  Of
course, people like this couldn't possibly be as attached to their music
collections as many of us are - there are waaay too many records in my
collection that I could never bear to get rid of, whether or not they've
been reissued on CD.  Too much sentimental value, and I still like
them.  Then again, I did trade away my Partridge Family record many,
many years ago - it was one of those things that was way too
embarrassing to keep in a collection once I reached the ripe old age of
14 or so! - and now you can buy them at Dusty Groove!

cheryl


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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 03:51:35 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Sergio Mendes/Otto live

Thursday Dec 31 (New Year's Eve)
9 pm - 1 am
I will be spinning between sets by locals
Vivendo de Pao
and
SERGIO MENDES
at
Fairmont Hotel Grand Ballroom
downstairs from the Tonga Room
tix are $99
available from
415-775-2107
__________________________
I'll be making three other appearances this month in SF

Thursday Dec. 3
7:30 - 11:30 pm
Djing at Radio Valencia
FREE

Sunday Dec. 6
Selling tiki News and Tiki Mugs with Tiki King and a cast of dozens of Burning
Man folks at the
Naughty Santas Bizarra Bazaar
Somar Gallery
Harrison and 9th
3pm - 12 midnight
$3.00

Sunday, Dec. 20
7:30 pm - 12 midnight
Djing at the Li Lo
Connecticut and 18th on Potrero Hill
FREE
If you've never been to the Li Lo this is a good time to go
Fridays and Saturdays it is packed with local yuppies and usually bad music.
This is a regular gig I have subbing for Mike LaVella (Gearhead) every Sunday
and they have a different bartender that night who makes a good Blue
Hawaiian!!


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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:22:41 -0800
From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Album Frames and the need to display

>
> I've got a catalog from the Restoration Hardware store that lists
> album frames.
> 12 x 12 inch frames that are thick enough to house an album,
> record and all.

Displaying records is a great way to get people talking about your favorite
subject. I made long display racks for my basement rumpus room. I have
little wall space, but what bare wall I have is currently adorned with:

Thunderball - John Barry (heh! just got mentioned the other day.)
Spiro Agnew Speaks Out
Symphony of the Birds - J Dalgas Frisch
TV Jazz Themes - Skip Martin
Orienta - Marco Polo Adventurers
Wired for Sound  - Marty Gold
Little Spice - Faye Richmond ( Nude Cover. Bad voice, great..uhhh..LUNGS)
Havana in Hifi - Richard Hayman
Bozo Under the Sea - w/ Billy May
All in the FAmily (Album-version of theme song w/bits)
Sounds in Space - Ken Nordine
Calypso is like sooo.... - Robert Mitchum
Run toward the Roar - Tammy Fay Bakker (not her best)
Music out of the Moon/Peace of Mind - Harry REvell
Calypso w/ the Charmer (Louis Farrakhan)
And a Hartz Mountain Parakeet training record (unbeeleeevably creepy when
played off-speed)

I rotate tham often to keep it interesting, and I take great care to make
sure the mixture is interesting. Maybe I should make a mix CD entitled
"Great records to look at."

Ron



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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:46:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cheap Blank CDs

In a message dated 12/1/98 9:46:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< As long as we're on the subject, I read all over that CDs are 1 to 2
dollars for blanks.  I'll be damned if I can find any good discs for lower
than two bucks these days.  Anyone have any favorite cheap mail-order places?

 Peter
  >>

Here in Charleston, South Carolina the major business supply places routinely
(weekly) run the specials where you buy 10 recordables for about 10 dollars
and then mail in a 10 dollar rebate.  No joke.  Staples, Office Depot and
Office Max all do this.  And yes, they all have mail order.  A buddy of mine
has stock-piled about 60 CDs and he doesn't even have a recorder yet.

Robert

Robert


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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 05:29:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) F&T Fireworks

Yes. I have the same lp. It's one of those "simulated stereo" albums
that really trash the sound quality (I have an Elvis lp that is
"electronically re-channeled (?)to simulate stereo" - sounds like the
king is crooning from beneath a landslide of marshmallow spread). In
the spirit of Byron, I have an extra copy of this lp and would be
happy to send to anyone who wants it for the $1 it cost me and
whatever the postage ... pay after you receive.

Oh, a pal who caught F&T in the 60's says it's Tye-sher.



- ---Risser Family <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> I got an album by Ferrante and Teicher called "Fireworks"
> Does anyone know if this is the same or different than "Hi-Fireworks"?
> My guess is, different, but it looks interesting.
>
> It's en route from FL so I haven't heard it yet.
>
> By the way, is it Teeecher or Tye-cher?
>
> Anyone, Anyone?
> Peter
>


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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:57:53 -0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Making CDs into Records - ish

Date: Mon, 30 Nov 98 19:04:18 -0400
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Making CDs into Records

I was listening to the new Don Tiki album and was very impressed with
the
musicianship and the arrangements and the fact that Martin Denny plays
some incredible exotica piano. But why didn't I enjoy this CD overall?

The Sound !
<snip>
So my question, related to the record-to-CD posts, is: Is there a way to

make new recordings sound old? It would be an excellent use of computer
technology if there was a way to configure the sound spectrum  that
predominated in the early sixties and be able to channel new recording
through this process to make it sound *better* (to my ears.)
I could then add the missing element to the Don TIki and the Combustible

Edison albums.

There is a real difference made to the quality of the sound of a record
during the 'cut'.  There is also a difference between the old style
lacquer master and a Direct to Metal master (DMM).  Its not just due to
the eq that the engineer doing the mastering may put on,  as I've seen
it done flat and still make a difference.  Theres actually a lot that
goes on here,  the sound is passed through compressors and limiters (not
quite the same thing).  Different mastering rooms use different kit and
have different sounds,  for example Porkys mastering used a lot of valve
equipment with a really warm sound,  enormous things with big rheostats
on and cuts (or did) to lacquer.  Abbey road uses a lot more digital
equipment and cut DMM,  the sound from here was very different,  its
hard to define the difference but it had a 'vinyl warmth' but with an
extended top and bottom end that was crisper, more like a CD  Going into
the mastering room with a DAT tape and hearing change from that into a
record sound  was quite an exciting thing.

So you would need different filters and effects to emulate different
periods in time,  plus all the flavours added by microphones,  tape
recording technology,  available effects blah blah blah.  I bet there
are trainspotting studio engineers who have written PC filters for this,
try some home recording newsgroups.


El Maestro Con Queso

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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:26:02 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Making records into CDs

I've got one of those philips "consumer" audio cd recorders, and i'm
pleased with it, although i'd recommend waiting until philips or someone
else brings out a new model, because (1) it's 50% more expensive than a
computer CDR burner and (2) it isn't really the most user-friendly
recording device.

the main advantage is that you can hook it onto your hidefi system, and
record in real time (and automatically include track divisions if the
source is digital too)

as for prices of consumer CDR's, they're dropping fast. the only reason
they're more expensive is, that the price includes copyright tax, just as
cassette tapes do.

as for trying to use those cheaper CDR's, as Charles Moseley suggested, i
wouldn't risk it. you have to apply quite some force to manually open the
tray (i've tried it only once, with no cd inserted)

I also have a MD recorder, and think it is about a 1000 times cooler than a
cd recorder! much cheaper, erasable, you can edit like crazy...

        Johan


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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 13:38:10 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) OBIT: Johnny Roventini

Bellboy who shouted 'Call for Philip Morris' dies
Johnny Roventini
December 2, 1998
WHITE PLAINS, New York (AP) -- Johnny Roventini, the pint-size bellboy who
became one of the best-known figures in American advertising by shouting "Call
for Philip Morris," has died. He was 88.
Roventini died Monday at a hospital in Suffern, said a nephew, Philip
Roventini. The cause of death had not been determined.
In 1933, Roventini was 22 and being promoted by the New Yorker Hotel as "the
smallest bellboy in the world" at 4 feet tall when he met advertising man
Milton Biow, who had an idea for a cigarette ad. Biow gave him a dollar "to
locate Philip Morris."
"I had no idea that Philip Morris was a cigarette," he said later, and he
strode through the hotel, shouting "Call for Philip Mor-rees."
That began a career that brought Roventini a lifetime contract and a salary of
up to $50,000 -- fabulous at the time. He was heard on popular live radio
programs and on some of the most-watched television shows of the 1950s and
1960s, including "I Love Lucy," "Candid Camera" and the Red Skelton and Jackie
Gleason shows.
Darienne Dennis, a spokeswoman for Philip Morris Cos. Inc., said Roventini,
who
always appeared in his short-jacketed bellboy outfit, was the company's
"living
trademark."
She said Roventini estimated that he called out the slogan more than a million
times -- and shook hands with more than a million people.
"I remember going out with him," his nephew said. "We'd go to the post office
or something and they'd yell, 'Johnny, give us the call."'




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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:12:13 -0500
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) F&T Fireworks

At 9:14 PM -0500 12/1/98, Risser Family wrote:
>I got an album by Ferrante and Teicher called "Fireworks"
>Does anyone know if this is the same or different than "Hi-Fireworks"?
>My guess is, different, but it looks interesting.

It's a mid-60's re-pressing of the original "Hi-Fireworks" album (which was
recorded in the mid-50's); it is in electronically reprocessed "stereo"
sound. It makes a good starter copy until you can find the original.

.......and, to the best of my knowledge, it's "Tye-cher"

br cleve


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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 15:43:54 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Do all child actors go bad sooner or later?

December 2, 1998

Former Mouseketeer Is Tried in Fraud Case
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
OS ANGELES -- A former Mouseketeer, Darlene Gillespie, went on trial Tuesday
on Federal charges of securities fraud and obstruction of justice.

Ms. Gillespie, 56, one of the nine original Mouseketeers in "The Mickey
Mouse Club" television show, faces 14 counts of conspiracy, securities
fraud, mail fraud, obstruction of justice, perjury and aiding and abetting a
Federal crime.

Jack S. Weiss, an assistant United States Attorney, told jurors that Ms.
Gillespie had written bad checks, some under a false name in a stock swindle
and then lied about the scheme to investigators. Ms. Gillespie took part in
an "elaborate series of lies," Weiss said.

The prosecutor told jurors that Ms. Gillespie had written bad checks to
brokerage firms to pay for stock in the company Unique Mobility, beginning
in late 1992. Ms. Gillespie's boyfriend and Ms. Gillespie bought tens of
thousands of shares of stock in the company, and because their checks were
not good they risked nothing but stood to make money if the stock value
rose, Weiss said.

The scheme allegedly involved at least 40,000 shares of stock worth hundreds
of thousands of dollars.






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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 20:07:48 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Bollywood Bullshit

A quick reaction to the Indian Crime CD:  Somebody quickly made up the titles
to these songs very recently. "Fear of A Brown Planet"? Please!  The music is
excellent by and large, but the marketing is
transparent.................anyone? Also, thanks to the lister who offered it
at 17.99 plus shipping, but I got it for 12.99 plus tax at my
local....Jimmy/'Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge on Tuesdays from
6-8am (welcome home Br. Cleve)


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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 17:22:01 -0800
From: Clark Scheffy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bollywood Bullshit

>A quick reaction to the Indian Crime CD:=A0 Somebody quickly made up the=
 titles
>to these songs very recently. "Fear of A Brown Planet"? Please!=A0 The=
 music is
>excellent by and large, but the marketing is
>transparent.................anyone?

Dig...

And what label is this on, anyway? Any of you read about (or bought releases
from) the Desco label, which has released a "soundtracks" (a kung fu one
called
"The Revenge of Mister Mopoji") which is really just new stuff. Desco has=
 some
similar releases that are meant to look vintage or "rare vault," but come=
 from
the here and now. It's not all bad stuff, it's just marketed a bit shadily.

Clark



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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 20:35:14 -0500
From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bollywood Bullshit

Clark:

Thanks for the info on "The Revenge of Mister Mopoji,"
which I bought and don't mind, but wondered where the hell
it came from (and why it was so cheap, so quickly)

Will
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Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University

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