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exotica-digest        Monday, November 30 1998        Volume 02 : Number 254



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd
(exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #253
(exotica) Cocktail-o-matic
(exotica) 1950s beefcake models dig exotica!
Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd
(exotica) post-turkey US TV
(exotica) Talkin' Tiki
(exotica) Air on TV
(exotica) Oranj Symphonette "Tour"
Re:  (exotica) Oranj Symphonette "Tour"
Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd
Re: (exotica) Cocktail-o-matic
(exotica) Making records into CDs
Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs
Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs
Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs
Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs
(exotica) Bacharach and Mancini on TV
(exotica) SLarry??? You there???
(exotica) Making records into CDs
(exotica) FS: Dick Hyman Moog LPs
Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs
Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs
(exotica) This week on The Retro Cocktail Hr
Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs
(exotica) Sitar Funk CD
(exotica) Free Design
Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs
(exotica) burning CD's

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Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 03:13:32 -0600
From: Robert Sloane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd

At 09:26 PM 11/26/98 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>Yeah, his whole exchange seemed to pertain to something a long time ago.  Com
>Ed has not hit the Dresden in a long time right?
>
>Also,  doesn't the author also write of Lounge LA magazine?  Now this is not
>the Lounge zine but the Lounge LA one.

The "title bar" (or whatever it's called) on my web browser implies that
the article is from Sept. 1997, but it is attached to the September 1998
electronic version of the Lounge LA zine.

The tone of the article seems strange for a publication "documenting the
lounge revival in Los Angeles since 1986" (as it proclaims). Is it sour
grapes? Has the West coast/East coast rivalry invaded exotica, too? There
seems to be a sense that the whole thing started in L.A., way back in 1986,
and that all others are poseurs and bandwagoneers. Anyone have the scoop?

Rob


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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:08:27 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #253

In a message dated 11/28/98 3:39:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-exotica-
[e-mail] writes:

>
>  Someone (Lou?) asked about Henry's daughter Monica and her new CD. I see
>  that there's a PBS special in circulation next week cross-promoting the CD,
>  so keep an eye peeled and you can evaluate it for free. She's a singer and
>  it seems to be a set of covers of Dad's hits.
>
Just worked with her last nite here in Jacksonville.  Very nice show, great
arrangements (Patrick Williams, e.g.).  Drummer is her husband, great player.
Nice couple.  They're travelling around the country appearing on PBS stations
in connection with her TV special on PBS.


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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:23:50 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cocktail-o-matic

I don't think I've read any reviews of it here yet, so anyone seen this book?
The full title is "Cocktail-o-matic.  The little black book of Cocktail"
and it's by one Suzanne Matczuk.
It's obviously partly about drinking but the ad in the paper says "A
compendium of all things cocktail, lounge and retro.  From the golden era
before Prohibition to today's nouveau-lounge and swing revival...."
Anybody?

Nat



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Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:26:14 -0700
From: Matt Hinrichs <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 1950s beefcake models dig exotica!

Hey!

Everyone on this list should point their browsers here -

http://www.amug.org/~tuzahu/physique4.html

Specifically, check out the strategically placed "prop" in photo #12A -
interesting!

- - Matt


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:33:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd

In a message dated 11/28/98 8:05:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< The tone of the article seems strange for a publication "documenting the
 lounge revival in Los Angeles since 1986" (as it proclaims). Is it sour
 grapes? Has the West coast/East coast rivalry invaded exotica, too? There
 seems to be a sense that the whole thing started in L.A., way back in 1986,
 and that all others are poseurs and bandwagoneers. Anyone have the scoop?

 Rob
  >>

Lounge LA was always more about dining vs. music.  They would review music but
the issue I got a few years back explained and reviewed the 50's and 60's
dining establishments.

I also think there was a little animosity between them and the folks at Lounge
(which is Sam Wick, et. al.'s publication).  The people at Lounge LA got a
little perturbed that Lounge came in much later and stole their thunder.

I do not think it is an East Coast / West Coast rivalry because most of Lounge
LA's content is about southern California by design anyway.

Robert


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:30:08 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) post-turkey US TV

(eastern standard times)

Almost all are on AMC, so to save typing, a different format...

On AMC:

Stranger On The Third Floor (1940) Monday morning, 10:35am - Murder and
misplaced accusations with Peter Lorre, John McGuire, Margaret Tallichet,
Elisha Cook Jr.

Murder, My Sweet (1944) Tuesday morning, 7:30am - Dick Powell as Raymond
Chandler gets knocked out a lot. Good, tough noir. With Claire Trevor, Anne
Shirley, Mike Mazurki (seen last week beating up Charlton Heston in "Dark
City").

Sherlock Jr. (1924) Early Wednesday morning, 5:15am - Buster Keaton plays a
film projectionist who "projects" himself into the films.

The Cat and The Canary (1927) Wednesday morning, 6:00am - This is
*supposed* to be the original silent version (3 or 4 more versions
followed). If so, it's a pioneer of the "old dark house" thriller genre.
With Laura LaPlante, Flora Finch, Creighton Hale, Gertrude Astor.

Little Fugitive (1953) Wednesday morning, 9:00am - I think someone on here
praised this a while back. A young boy thinks he killed his brother (he
didn't -- his brother was faking) and goes on the lam to Coney Island. Sure
to be some cool location footage in this one.

Voyage To The Bottom Of Sea (1961) Wednesday night, 6:00pm, Midnight -
Walter Pidgeon and his atomic submarine battle red tape and the Van Allen
radiation belt. Forerunner of the TV series.

Copacabana (1947) Thursday morning, 6:00am - Nightclub-set musical comedy
starring Groucho Marx and Carmen Miranda. Not as strong as one would hope
with that combination, but worthwhile regardless.

Love Happy (1949) Thursday morning, 7:35am - Later, lesser Marx Brothers --
but they still kick the Ritz Brother's butts. Marilyn Monroe has a walk-on.
Harpo gets his usual harp segment.

A Face In The Crowd (1957) Friday morning, 7:45am - Andy Griffith gets
scary as a fame-crazed media personality.

Bwana Devil (1952) Friday night, 10:30pm - The first of the 50s 3-D movie
fad. Almost certainly not in 3-D here (boo, hiss). Old-school Hollywood
(low budget division) jungle safari shenanigans.

Easy Come, Easy Go (1967) Saturday night, 8:30pm - Elvis.

Don't Bother To Knock (1952) Saturday night/early Sunday morning, 10:15pm,
4:30am - Marilyn Monroe as a psycho babysitter. With Richard Widmark and
Anne Bancroft.

On TNT:
Duel (1971) Late Friday night/early Saturday morning, 3:45am - From the
salad days of made-for-TV movies, a vehicular warmup for "Jaws", by that
famous director I'd rather not name. I like "Killdozer" better.

On TBS:
Goldfinger (1964) Saturday night, 8:05pm - Prime 007.
m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:18:03 -1000
From: Lloyd Kandell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Talkin' Tiki

Aloha!

Hope everyone had happy holidays stuffed with love. Back in da islands
from NYC and the CMJ Music Marathon. We didn't have the kala ($$) to
bring the band over, so i was the tiki ambassador spreading macnuts
along the trail. Made great contacts there including one leading to a=20
review in this week's Time Out/NY... mahalo to list member Elisabeth
Vincentelli! Working on a few new projects for the Taboo label... 1st
being a deep house/trance hop dance release with Frank Orrall of Poi Dog
Pondering that mixes in pac-rim rhythms from Tahiti, Fiji, Samoa... kind
of deep forest in the sunshine of polynesia. He did the club remixes of
"Polyamor=E9" and "Clutch Cargo Cult" to the positive response of djs and
happy feet. All the best and remember...

Welawela ke kai o ka moa=20
Hot is the broth of the (funky) chicken

alohaderci,
Fluid Floyd
Don Tiki/Taboo Records


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:18:47 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Air on TV

Has anyone seen the Loreal commercial with Andie MacDowell, backed by the
relaxed sounds of Air's "Moon Safari" album? The music works really well on
it, and if it brings them more exposure, all the better.

- --Rod


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:37:03 -0800
From: Action Plus <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Oranj Symphonette "Tour"

Hi, fellow listers and listees...

Joe Gore from San Francisco's Oranj Symphonette here. Please excuse the
blatant self-promotion in announcing the dates of our upcoming micro-tours
in support our new Rykodisc release, *The Oranj Album*. (If you don't know
our music or why we sorta belong here, scope out
http://www.dioramas.com/oranj/)

Portland, OR: Thurs., Dec. 3rd @ Berbati's Pan
Vancouver, BC: Fri., Dec. 4th @ Starfish Room
Seattle, WA: Sat. Dec. 5th @ Crocodile Cafe
Portland, ME: Fri., Dec. 11th @ Asylum
Philadelphia, PA: Sat., Dec. 12th @ Five Spot
New York, NY: Sun., Dec. 13th @ Knitting Factory
Boston, MA: Monday, Dec. 14th @ House of Blues

L.A. and San Francisco dates coming in January.

Thanks,

Joe




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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:29:34 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Oranj Symphonette "Tour"

Coming nowhere near my part of the country, but then again, no one good ever
does.

Nevertheless, "The Oranj Album" is a fantastic and fun collection. It's even
better and livelier than their first release, "Plays Mancini." I can't imagine
any member of the list being disappointed with it.

- --Rod


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:44:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) NASTY review on ComEd

In a message dated 11/28/98 8:05:07 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< The tone of the article seems strange for a publication "documenting the
 lounge revival in Los Angeles since 1986" (as it proclaims). Is it sour
 grapes? Has the West coast/East coast rivalry invaded exotica, too? There
 seems to be a sense that the whole thing started in L.A., way back in 1986,
 and that all others are poseurs and bandwagoneers. Anyone have the scoop? >>


I don't know if LA started the whole lounge thing, but they are sure as hell
the guilty bastards for starting the whole swing business which puts them well
into the negative column.

Ashley


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:53:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cocktail-o-matic

In a message dated 11/28/98 9:25:36 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I don't think I've read any reviews of it here yet, so anyone seen this
book?
 The full title is "Cocktail-o-matic.  The little black book of Cocktail"
 and it's by one Suzanne Matczuk.
 It's obviously partly about drinking but the ad in the paper says "A
 compendium of all things cocktail, lounge and retro.  From the golden era
 before Prohibition to today's nouveau-lounge and swing revival...."
 Anybody? >>


Any book with a stupid title like that not to mention trying to unashamaedly
trying to cash in on bothe the lounge and swing revival hspould be enough
warning to stear clear. If you indeed want an expert book the making and the
origins of cocktails the recently published "Cocktail" by Paul Harrington and
Laura Moorhead (Viking Publishers) is highly recomended. There are 275 claasic
drink recipies as well in-depth discussions on the origins and making of
drinks.

The co-author Paul Harrington (who is the drink editor for Wired) was
interviewed about the book by Time Out several months ago and responded to the
question as to how to tell if the bar you just entered is a good one with the
well reasoned response that If there's a Mr. Boston guide behind the bar, flee
at once!

Ashley


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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:30:49 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Making records into CDs

This may have been previously discussed on the list and if so, please excuse
me for asking about it, but does anyone on the list know about recording
albums onto CDs?  This question came up because my boyfriend wants to get me a
stereo for Xmas and I couldn't decide between a CD player or a cassette
player.  What would be ideal is to record my albums onto CDs and then I
wouldn't need a cassette.  He seems to think this is possible but doesn't know
how it is done.  He says you can do this with a computer and a mini disk....
but isn't there a way to just record onto regular sized CDs?  Can anyone fill
me in on what is needed to do this?  Is there a CD taping machine that can be
hooked up to the stereo for such purposes?  Has anyone on this list ever done
this and what is the final sound quality?  Is it as good as CD quality?

Please excuse my ignorance and I appologize if this subject is already well-
worn.

- - Michele


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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:31:41 +0100
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs

[e-mail] wrote:

> This may have been previously discussed on the list and if so, please excuse
> me for asking about it, but does anyone on the list know about recording
> albums onto CDs?  This question came up because my boyfriend wants to get me a
> stereo for Xmas and I couldn't decide between a CD player or a cassette
> player.  What would be ideal is to record my albums onto CDs and then I
> wouldn't need a cassette.  He seems to think this is possible but doesn't know
> how it is done.  He says you can do this with a computer and a mini disk....
> but isn't there a way to just record onto regular sized CDs?  Can anyone fill
> me in on what is needed to do this?  Is there a CD taping machine that can be
> hooked up to the stereo for such purposes?  Has anyone on this list ever done
> this and what is the final sound quality?  Is it as good as CD quality?

Has anybody ever thought, that the end of the CD age has come? There are a couple
of new systems that are far better than CD and might replace it soon. In the end
Vinyl might even survive CD. I stick to the good old music cassette, MC. It's the
second oldest medium, everybody has it, it's cheap - I buy my empty tapes on flea
markets for about 3$/10 pieces - it's rerecordable and I can't complain about the
sound quality. With my Onkyo R1 tape deck and Maxell XL-S tapes I can hardly
discern the tape from the original record. I don't need more. I rather put my
money into more records...

Mo



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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:01:38 +0000
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs

I agree that Vinyl seems a more permanent medium that CD, especially no=
w
that recordable CD, MD and that new-fangled contraption which has just =
been
released in the US - a chip in a box onto which one downloads sound fil=
es
for later use - have made the CD seem very transient.
As a DJ, and as a proud owner of a cool record collection (and aren't w=
e
all), I like making tapes for people - part showing off, part sharing t=
he
joys of music - but I've always found that tapes are poor quality and l=
ose
a lot of quality in the copying. Now though, CD has suddenly opened new=

doors for me. I've never owned a CD player and I must be the only perso=
n in
the western world that hasn't but I've recently been tempted by a Phill=
ips
CD recorder. Its around =A3350 and offers excellent reproduction (CD qu=
ality
can't be faulted - well it can, but thats another story), blank CDs are=

around =A32 and everybody I know has a CD player and prefers the medium=
 over
everything else. Therefore, if I make a mix CD, people will listen to i=
t in
all its full quality glory.
There is something to be said for the poorer quality of audio tape thou=
gh.
It is a medium which cannot be re-used without serious loss of quality =
and
so this prevents those who receive tapes from sampling, re-compiling or=

DJing with your precious tracks. A selfish view perhaps but important
nonetheless. Maybe the answer is to make your CD compilation with some =
sort
of ID message repeated all over it. 'Kiss FM'-style.

Charlie
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 01:27:07 PST
From: "Jill Mingo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs

I found the following point rather interesting...

> There is something to be said for the poorer quality of audio tape thou=
gh.
> It is a medium which cannot be re-used without serious loss of quality =
and
> so this prevents those who receive tapes from sampling, re-compiling =
or
> DJing with your precious tracks.

When "your precious tracks" is used, you imply that you made and recorded=
 this music yourself. Surely anyone can go out and buy or hunt down the =
tracks you have on your CD. And surely any real DJ would want to own the =
whole track - not a mix of it (which would mean at the minimum the first =
few and last few seconds cut off). There are so few people in the world =
that DJ with this sort of music, I think as a DJ the last thing I worry =
about is someone using the tracks I've used to make a tape or CD. Any rea=
l DJ has their own style and whilst they might discover some tunes from =
other DJs, certainly we all source our music from a variety of places - =
like this list! It is the way we put our sets together that gives us our =
identity - not simply from the tunes we play. I think a perfect example =
are the playlists that get posted. I find them a fascinating way to get =
an insight into what and where other DJs are coming from. And when I post=
 mine, the last thing I worry about is other people stealing my set.

I think one of the BEST reasons to buy a CD burner or Minidisc is so that=
 music can be shared, with good quality sound so that one isn't forced =
to pay outrageous collectors' prices for one track on an LP that you spen=
d 2 years looking for. You can simply have the music. There will always =
be a few who must have the original, but a lot of people simply want the =
music. I'm sure many people on this list have shelled out for a rare reco=
rd only to have it reissued a few months later. So what? Does it make you=
r purchase any less meaningful? Not for me. And not for many people I kno=
w. Owning a rare record doesn't make me cool. I think I'm cool enough in =
my own right!

A selfish view perhaps but important
> nonetheless.

No, just selfish I think. And this is not a personal attack because if =
you really believed this, I don't think you would ever post some of the =
records you've bought for fear that others would discover them and DJ wit=
h your precious records.

 Maybe the answer is to make your CD compilation with some sort
> of ID message repeated all over it. 'Kiss FM'-style.

Which is just annoying and ridiculous.

If I've upset anyone, sorry, but I couldn't just skip by this one...

Jill "Mingo-go"



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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:48:09 +0000
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs

Chill Jill, all I'm saying is that CD offers almost perfect reproduction
and that is not always what one wants out of a recordable medium. If I made
a good track at home and then sent it out to distributors to see if they
would be interested, I wouldn't want to send them a CD copy because the
quality is such that it could easily be remastered. At least with tape, I
know that although I may have sent out thousands of demos, nobody has the
master except me.





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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:26:23 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bacharach and Mancini on TV

The local PBS station ran Bacharach's "One Amazing Night" and Monica
Mancini's "On Record" tribute to her father back to back yesterday.
(Heavily sprinkled with requests for financial support of course.)
I spent a week and a half recently doing nothing but making various kinds
of Bacharach compilation tapes.  At first it was just an attempt to somehow
"deal with" all the Bacharach covers - mostly instrumental - on all these
easy listening records. But it became an obsession and in the process I
went from someone who would admit that "Bacharach certainly wrote a lot of
good songs" into a total Bacharach freak.
I loved the Bacharach show even IF some of the artist and even song
selection was questionable.  There was this one moment during Sheryl Crow's
rendition of "One Less Bell" where the "backup singers" sang a phrase and I
actually got a shiver.  I think it was just the thrill of hearing Burt's
new/old arrangements of the tunes.
The only new song in the show was Elvis Costello singing "This House is
Empty Now" from their new record together.  I thought Elvis sang it
beautifully and I would literally feel sorry for anyone who could have
heard that and not be moved.
I know that's a silly thing to say but that's how I feel.
Yeah Luther Vandross came out and did a lovely job on his Windows of the
world/what the world needs medley and so did Dionne Warwick on her numbers.
And I'm certainly not going to knock Dionne except for that psychic friend
crap.
But in a show that featured okay singers and great singers, Elvis stood out
as the best combination of chops and emotion.
By the way, (homeboy) Mike Myers' version of "What's new Pussycat?" was not
as embarrassing as (homeboys) Barenaked Ladies version of "Close to you".
Then again, Wynonna was a pretty bad choice too.  And Chrissy Hynde was a
really cool choice I thought.

By contrast, the Monica Mancini tribute to her father was actually
embarrassing to me. It's such an obvious cash-in as far as I was concerned.
In her introduction to the show Monica said "Through his music, they'll
find out WHO I AM and who my father was".
Huh???  The only thing I found out about her is that she wants to have a
career as a singer and that's she's willing to play on her famous last name.
Maybe that's cruel.  I read the post where someone said she was nice and I
don't doubt it.  But for me she is an okay singer with virtually zero
charisma.
If being Henry's daughter gave her some special insight into his music, it
was lost on me.
It was nice to hear some of the songs.  I mean who else is going to sing
"Two for the Road"?  And there was a nice moment when Jack Lemmon got all
choked up remembering the first time he heard "Days of Wine and Roses".

All in all it was still nice to see these tributes to two of my heroes back
to back like that.  I just wish that they'd gotten Tony Bennett on the
Bacharach show to sing "Make it easy on yourself".  That might just have
beaten Elvis' contribution.

Nat



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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:25:57 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) SLarry??? You there???

Hey Larry,

Email me off list please.

All others, sorry for this bother.

Robert


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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:37:46 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Making records into CDs

Hey Michele,

In a message dated 98-11-29 23:33:29 EST, you write:

<< Is there a CD taping machine that can be
 hooked up to the stereo for such purposes?  Has anyone on this list ever done
 this and what is the final sound quality?  Is it as good as CD quality?

 Please excuse my ignorance and I appologize if this subject is already well-
 worn.
  >>

I already see lots of responses on the list.  My friend Gary and I are
exploring this right now and will probably be "burning" our on CD's (and
copies) by the end of the year.  Others on the list are already doing so.

The CD's for the CD Stereo burners are more expensive than the ones for the
CD-ROM burners that go with your computer.  And I mean a lot more expensive
and the CD  stereo ones will not let you make copies of a "copy".

I will read the responses too.  If you are confused you probably ought to wait
about 6 months as this area is exploding and the prices (at least on the CD-
ROM burners) are droping like crazy.

Comments are welcome -- post to the list.

Robert


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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:44:20 -0700
From: "Mark B. Conklin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FS: Dick Hyman Moog LPs

I came across copies of Dick Hyman's "The Age Of Electronics" (Stereo 946-S)
and "The Electric Eclectics Of Dick Hyman" (Stereo 938-S) yesterday. I
already own copies of both, but I know some of you have been looking for
them. I'm asking $10 a piece plus shipping (no profit to me - honest), which
is a pretty decent deal. I would also consider trading.

Both are in Mint/VG++ condition and have nice glossy gatefold sleeves.

I also found a copy of The Moog Machine - Switched On Rock (CS9921) if
anyone is interested in that. I paid about $5 for it.

Sorry to waste the space if you're not interested.

MC

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:45:04 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs

<< does anyone on the list know about recording albums onto CDs?>>

I'm set-up for that.  You need a decent soundcard and some kind of CD
recording software.  There are a number of types of each and you can spend a
little or a lot.  You connect your stereo into the LINE IN on the back of your
computer (into the sound card).  You are now ready to pick out an LP and
record it to the computer's hard drive.  You can even record directly to the
CD.  Sounds simple, right?

Well, that depends.  For example, you need to somehow split the tracks so they
can be individually indexed.  Otherwise, Side A will be track 1 and Side B
will be track 2.  Software programs have a "track splitting" feature that
detects silences and separates them.  You can adjust the sensitivity.
However, with my software, it was hardly a perfect science.  The tracks did
not always split where they should.  So i had to settle for a round-about
method that assured me that it would be just right, because I have to have it
just right.  Time consuming.

Remember, this all depends on your program and I'm hardly an expert.  There
just might be some program out there that makes it as easy as hitting RECORD
and it does everything else without fail.

<<Has anyone on this list ever done this and what is the final sound quality?
Is it as good as CD quality?>>

I guess so...there are features that remove pops, clicks and surface noise.
But watch out, you can distort the recording if  you are not careful.

I've done a few mixes, too.  This can be time consuming as well.  I have to
"clean-up" each track with a WAV editor before i am satisfied with it.  Clean
up meaning trimming off the silence beginning and end so when the track is
selected, it immediately begins.  I also have to fiddle with the volume
becasue I've noticed the differences between various sources are more apparent
when listened to on CD.

The trap I fall into with mixes is endless experimentaion.  With this kind of
software, you can now snip, cut, chop, splice and dice anything with EXACT
precision and put everything together like a sound collage.  What ends up
happening is I just keep trying new things and never get anything done.  But
that is my compulsive disorder and my problem.  How I sometimes long for the
simplicity of pressing record on the tape deck and that was it!

I've even "CD'ed" stuff off cassette and video (old TV commerical stuff) and
have not minded the results one bit.  I just finished recording "Dog's Life",
by Tony Schwartz from cassette (Smithsonian/Folkways) and it sounds great.

Based on my short experience, I can only recommend this to a person who has
the time and patience to do this.  Be prepared to trash a few discs along the
way...



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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:47:47 +0000
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs

The way to get round the restrictive expense of blank CDs is to use the PC
CDs instead. I've heard that you stick the expensive audio CD into the CD
recorder and allow it to make its checks, then just before recording,
replace the audio CD with the PC CD (around 1 fifth of the price) and
record at will.

Would anybody on the list like to confirm if this works?

Charles





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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:21:14 +0000
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) This week on The Retro Cocktail Hr

On this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast, tune in for bossa nova by
Warren Kime and Brass Impact, Dick Hyman and Les Baxter, plus
passionate percussion from Marty Gold's "Skin Tight" and Les Baxter's
classic "Skins";  jungle jazz by Chaino, Yma Sumac, Les Baxter and
Shorty Rogers (from his ultra-rare soundtrack "Tarzan the Ape Man";
along with the Now Sound of the swinging '60s, Stereo Action and
outer space exotica.

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the World Wide Web, just go to:

http://www.ukans.edu/~kanu-fm/retro.html

Requires at least a 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer 5.0 or
G2.  As always, if you tune us in, please let us know what you think.
We'd love to hear from you!

Enjoy the music, and thanks for the space.


Darrell Brogdon
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KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:36:36 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs

>I will read the responses too.  If you are confused you probably ought to
wait
>about 6 months as this area is exploding and the prices (at least on the CD-
>ROM burners) are droping like crazy.

Judging from some of the news items I've been reading, it *might* be a good
idea to do it now. The big music conglomerates are pushing to get all sorts
of anti-copy technology added to anything that moves. They've already
bought a few new laws to favor them.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:30:49 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sitar Funk CD

New Re-Issue CD Just Added

**Limited Quantities**

ANANDJI  KALYANJI:
"Bombay the Hard Way: Guns, Cars & Sitars"

Lights, karma, action!  A fistful of Instrumental Film
themes from 1970s Indian Crime films,
which melded Indian classical music with ISAAC HAYES/
Blaxploitation-style funk, swerving crazily between (curry)
fried Go-Go tunes and achingly beautiful Bollywood .
(as the Bombay film studios are called)
"Astro Sounds" stringed passages, and even a
"Mission: Impossible" rip-off Instro called
"Fear of a Brown Planet."
Psychedelically funky big time, no shit

Also of note is that almost every tune starts out with spoken word intro
dialogue, just enough, not too much AT ALL.
Just a short sentence that does NOT segue immediately into the music
Just in case you DON'T want it as part of the mix

CD comes in a multi-panel digipak with booklet and lots of full color
photos!  Really a beautiful package
5 Stars   (Motel, German Import)

CD: $17.50 + Shipping ($2 in US, $4 Overseas)

Please e-mail direct at [e-mail]

Thanks!


Jack

Jack Diamond Music
Http://www.jackdiamond.com

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Also available at Http://www.Amazon.com

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:15:18 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Free Design

A friend of mine has some Free Design 45's that he'd be willing to sell.  I
don't know what he means by "some" but I don't think he'd want much for
them.  If anyone is interested in this, let me know and I'll have him root
through his stuff and pick them out.
By the way I wonder if any of the Free Design fans here have read the
review of that "Kites are Fun" CD in the latest Cool and Strange Magazine,
written by one of our fellow list-ers I believe.  Don't want to stir up
controversy but it did make me smile to finally read a dissenting opinion.

Nat



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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:26:41 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Making records into CDs

In a message dated 98-11-30 11:36:51 EST, m. ace writes:


 >I will read the responses too.  If you are confused you probably ought to
 wait
 >about 6 months as this area is exploding and the prices (at least on the CD-
 >ROM burners) are droping like crazy.

 <<Judging from some of the news items I've been reading, it *might* be a good
 idea to do it now. The big music conglomerates are pushing to get all sorts
 of anti-copy technology added to anything that moves. They've already
 bought a few new laws to favor them.>>

m.ace  [e-mail]

Yeah ACE,

This was the other arguement that we were having.  The recordable CD's for CD-
ROM drives are free (once the rebate is added in) around here.  You just know
those Hollywood lawyers are working on this.  The BIG question is if the
computer lawyer weasels will beat out the Hollywood lawyer weasels in this
battle?  In the meantime I know of people who are stocking up on these low to
no cost recordable CD's for their CD-ROM burners.

Robert

P.S.  My apologies to all the weasels and lawyers out there.



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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:29:39 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) burning CD's

I don't want to sound like a Luddite here.  I expect that someday maybe I
too will join the CD-burning revolution.  It's not going to happen though
if the only good way to record CD's is to do it through your computer.  And
it's not just because I have a crap computer and no CD Rom.  It's also
because I can't imagine having my computer and stereo in the same room.
One of the things I wonder though is whether another recording-friendly
digital medium is going to come along soon and eclipse the CD as a
hometaping medium.
Another thing that I find strange about this whole idea - but it probably
IS the Luddite in me - is the idea of taking some less-than-mint LP and
preserving its clicks and pops forever in digital clarity.  Recording from
CD to CD makes perfect sense to me but somehow going from dusty old LP to
CD doesn't.
And then of course there's just the fact that in some ways I'm more
emotionally invested in all the cassettes I've made and received.  In some
ways, I think I'm more attached to the cassettes than I am to LP's.  I can
go back and forth between playing CD's and playing LP's and "it works" but
if a new recording medium takes over...
Oh well, three years ago I was one of those "film guys" who scoffed at any
notion that videotape would ever take over film and now I'm finishing a
"film" - I still use that word for some reason - that was shot on Hi-8.

Nat, ex-Luddite



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