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exotica-digest       Thursday, October 29 1998       Volume 02 : Number 238



In This Digest:

(exotica) Hi-Fi Jazz goes to the movies
Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!]
Re: (exotica) Jim Flora Gallery
(exotica) Re: sushi 4004 LP, Fantastic Plastic Machine
Re: [Nat Kone: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!]
Re: (exotica) moog continued
(exotica) Michel,belle!
Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!
Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!
(exotica) Happy Birthday Headphones
(exotica) New Site Location
(exotica) 2nd try: Beachcombers Alert
Re: (exotica) St. Frances E./Psychic T.V.
Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday Headphones
(exotica) Playlist-House of Games
(exotica) Zinds!  What Finds!
(exotica) New Site Location
(exotica) It The Terror From Beyond Space!
Re:  (exotica) St. Frances E.
Re: (exotica) moog continued
Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!
(exotica) Beachcombers Alert
Re: (exotica) moog continued
(exotica) New releases
(exotica) Re: McKuen: Beatsville
(exotica) Re: don't buy sushi 4004 LP!
(exotica) Tiki Halloween in Los Angeles

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:03:03 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hi-Fi Jazz goes to the movies

At 11:31 AM 10/28/98 -0500, She Of Many Names wrote:
>Don't you just love it when your favorite Hi-Fi Jazz combos show up in
>motion pictures?  What's out there?  We know Shorty Rogers and Shelly Manne
>are in MAN W/GOLDEN ARM, Gerry Mulligan in I WANT TO LIVE, and Chico
>Hamilton Quintet in THE SWEET SMELL OF SUCCESS...
>Your turn, talk to us!
>Jane "Susan Heyword" Fondle

Is Raymond Scott "Hi-Fi Jazz"? If so, here's a filmography:
1938 Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm
1938 Happy Landing
1937 Nothing Sacred
1937 Ali Baba Goes to Town
1937 Love and Hisses
1938 Sally, Irene and Mary
1941 Soundie "War Dance for Wooden Indians"
1941 Soundie "Huckleberry Duck" (RS Orchestra)


Welcome back LL/J"SH"F!!

- -Lou





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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:27:22 -0000
From: Jonny Perl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!]

> My first Michel Legrand record was STRINGS ON FIRE.  On the surface, it's
> just another lush, string-laded exotica record.  But the strings are SO
> HEAVY and they attack with such "verve" (can I use that word?) that the
> record is elevated out of the pack.

~Is this the American version of "Violent Violins"?

No, and they are very different records.  I think 'strings on fire' is late
fifties.  The sound is slightly less harsh and more thick than on violent
violins, although as Nat says, the sound is very intense.  A friend of mine
has 'violent violins', and it is because of this that I know of its
existence, and that it came out as part of the uk issue mercury living
presence series (late 60s or early 70s?).  But I have been trying for years
to buy my own copy, and have never even found confirmation that it exists.
I guess it must be gold dust since attention was drawn to it by the
'inflight entertainment' compilation...

regds
Jonny


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:31:24 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jim Flora Gallery

At 10:11 PM 10/27/98 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:

>Now, if someone would do the same thing for some of the other great album
>cover artists.

I'm kind of surprised I haven't read the name David Stone Martin on this
list yet. I know that people "collect" his record covers.  I have a few.  I
wish I knew something about design or the history of design so I could back
up my contention that DSM was way way ahead of his time.
I've never looked for a website dedicated to his covers; I guess I should.
I skimmed the Jim Flora site and was surprised that I didn't find any
covers that I owned, even though as other people have said, the style is
almost instantly familiar.
Does anyone want to tell me who influenced who?  Who came first? DSM or Jim
Flora?

Nat



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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:59:51 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: sushi 4004 LP, Fantastic Plastic Machine

>From: "Jill Mingo" <[e-mail]>


>Actually, when you know the track, it really isn't very hard to figure =
>out how to play it.

    OK, sorry if i over-reacted, but so please tell me how to play it.
    thanx!

    as for the music:

Where 3003 was essentially EZ and ISM dressed up as modern - be it
nostalgic - smooth pop, 4004 is much more contemporary club DANCE music:
lots of hard beats and samples, trip hop and whatever modern dance music is
called these days. If you like everything by P5, Jimmy Tenor, Towa Tei,
EasyTune et al., then this is something for you. But if Tipsy is more than
modern enough for you, then you probably won't like it. I didn't anyway.
But I loved 3003! So much that i spent months and months trying to track
down full albums by selected featured artists - without success alas...

        Johan


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:38:00 -0500
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [Nat Kone: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!]

At 01:41 PM 10/28/98 GMT, Peter Hipwell wrote:
>
>> My first Michel Legrand record was STRINGS ON FIRE.
>
>Is this the American version of "Violent Violins"? Does it have "Come
>Ray and Come Charles", "Motor City" and "Due Gue Ding" (not sure of
>the exact name of that last one). Because if so, I second the
>recommendation. It has a great cover pic as well, a leather clad woman
>with a mini-whip in her mouth surrounded by violins.

It's not the same record, no... but I'm starting to wish it was.  Don't
think I have any whips or SM references of any kind on any of the record
covers I own.  (Except maybe this Richard Hayman one and that looks more
like date-rape than SM.)

But no, the tunes on this record are all recognizable (exotica) standards
like Tabu, Jezebel, El Choclo, Perfidia, Temptation...

(And who's got the all-Perfidia tape while I'm at it?)

Nat



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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:18:11 +0000
From: [e-mail] (Desmond K. Hill)
Subject: Re: (exotica) moog continued

>   Think of it what you want.
>   Reasonable people may want to compare the rhythm track
>   (drums,guitar and bassline) of "Jericho Jerk" from
>   Messe pour le temps Present (by Pierre Henry/Michel Colombier,1967)
>   and "Cat in the Night" from Mood Indigo (J.J.Perrey,1970).
>   ...etc...
>   Jarre studied with Pierre Schaeffer of the GRM and I
>   believe also Perrey had some contacts with thes guys.


y v e s

Thank you for your interest in the career and creativity of Jean Jacques Per=
rey.

*  Being a 'reasonable person' I did attempt a comparison: increasing and
decreasing pitches, trapping and playing 4-bar loops to colleagues,
isolating certain key phrases and sounds, etc.  I found them to be
..__very.__ different tracks.

*  This may be because I returned to the original, and earliest avaiable
pressings of the tracks that I possess:  'Jerico Jerk' (Pierre Henry et
Michel Colombier) features on Les Yper Sound (Fontana 7" EP, France 1967)
whilst 'Cat in the Night' (Pat Prilly, Dene Mann, Andy Badale) features on
'Moog Indigo created by Jean Jacques Perrey' (Vanguard LP, USA 1970).

*  The difference may also be because the players on 'Cat in the Night'
include Buddy Rich on drums, possibly then at the height of his
distinctively heavy-handed playing; Vinnie Bell on guitar, creating as
individual a style as his home-built effects units could cultivate; and a
little known Italian arranger called Andy Badale, who later changed his
name to Angelo Badalamenti.  Perrey, of course, played Moog and other keys.


*  You are however correct to suggest that Perrey was exposed to Pierre
Schaeffer's compositions, in France in the late '50s.  If I may quote an
excerpt from a piece copyrighted and first published in May 1996:

[At the age of 30 Perrey relocated to New York, sponsored by Caroll Bratman
who built for him an experimental laboratory and recording studio.  Hidden
amongst the theatres and show houses of Ninth Avenue, Perrey invented "a
new process for generating crazy rhythms with sequences and loops."  Having
witnessed Pierre Schaeffer's elaborate artistry at first hand, and hearing
huge loops of sound, Perrey chose to edit his repetitions into quirky
compilations of rapid rhythms.  Utilising the environmental sounds of
musique concr=E8te, he created the LP 'Musique Electronique du Cosmos' in
1961, with just two tape machines linked together.]

*  Jean Jacques Perrey and Pierre Henry have both designed and delivered
dynamic pieces of music that have crossed the generation gap, to have a
contemporary relevance.  I hope, in their remaining years, that both will
continue to be encouraged to design equally as innovative and imaginative
works.  I believe it unreasonable to make accusations that they would never
make themselves, and unreasonable to expect them to answer.  Still, I would
like to thank you for this opportunity to exchange e-mails and learn a
little more.  Merci.

d e s








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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:02:58 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Michel,belle!

>Here is a question that has vexed me for years, yet I haven't posed
>it...HOW COME NOBODY ON THIS LIST TALKS MUCH ABOUT  MICHEL >LEGRAND!  Yes, I
>am shouting, from the hilltops

Maybe it's because he's not really an "exotica"-type artist, at least not most
of the time (except perhaps in the sense that a high degree of musical
competence is exotic).
I had the pleasure of touring w/Michel in the summer of '74, and as road-weary
and jaded as my sideman bones were at that time, it was an incredible,
possibly transcendental experience to listen to Legrand play with the
orchestra every night (he traveled with a conductor)--especially a moment at
the end of a medley, the last chord of "windmills of Your Mind",  when the
orchestra would hold this huge G minor (very dark) chord & M.L. would begin a
15 minute cadenza of themes and variations that took the audience on a musical
tour through centuries of classical, pop, jazz, ragtime, etc styles.  We did
maybe 30 or more performances and what he played was COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
every night!!!!  It was positively masterful.  The man is a genuine genius in
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:23:09 GMT
From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!

> From: Jonny Perl <[e-mail]>
>
> ~Is this the American version of "Violent Violins"?
>
> No, and they are very different records.  I think 'strings on fire' is late
> fifties.  The sound is slightly less harsh and more thick than on violent
> violins, although as Nat says, the sound is very intense.  A friend of mine
> has 'violent violins', and it is because of this that I know of its
> existence, and that it came out as part of the uk issue mercury living
> presence series (late 60s or early 70s?).  But I have been trying for years
> to buy my own copy, and have never even found confirmation that it exists.

Those albums are really hard to find. I've got 5 or 6 of 'em, out of
30 or so (maybe more?). And I've never seen duplicate copies of any of
them (other than the sampler album). I think they're late 60s, judging
on the existence of one which entirely consists of covers of the songs
from "Sgt. Pepper".

- -- Pete H.



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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:41:02 +0000
From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!

Jane Fondle (great to have you back here Laura!) wrote:

>>HOW COME NOBODY ON THIS LIST TALKS MUCH
>>ABOUT  MICHEL LEGRAND!
Chuck added:
>The man is a genuine genius in
>a world of pretenders IMO

I'd agree entirely.  Try and find his 70's album "Themes and Variations".

If you like Michel Legrand, you'll probably also go a bundle on the work
of the late Roy Budd.  He's probably best known for his score for the
cult movie 'Get Carter', but his other material, especially jazz with
an orchestra, is unbelievable.  Jill M. and others in the UK, I can
recommend the Sequel CD 'Rebirth of the Budd'.

We've got Laura back.  Huzzah!  Now, can we trace Jessica?

Hugh.


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:01:43 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Happy Birthday Headphones

 October 27, 1998
All Things Considered
Requires the RealAudio Player
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
An index of the day's stories:
<http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/981027.atc.html>
Stereo Headphones -- November will mark the 40th anniversary of the
development of stereo headphones. Linda talks with John Koss, the man who
invented the headphones. He was a young jazz musician looking for a better
way to listen to music when he got the idea for stereo headphones -- and his
invention changed the way that people listen to and use music. (4:30)






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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:16:00 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Site Location

Hey everybody,

I have a new url for my KFJC site AND it's under construction
so gimmie a break, will ya ???!!!

Rock on;  http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames

Thank you!

Jack

"So that's it Pops, Santa did shout, and he buttoned his cashmere, and
quickly cut out.
Pops was wiggin' and he was out of his head, to dig this wild character who
wore all the red."

(Babs Gonzales: ("The Be Bop Santa Claus" circa 1955)



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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:18:25 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 2nd try: Beachcombers Alert

(I tried posting this in the morning. Did it get lost at sea? Pardons if it
turns up twice.
Anyway...)

Don weren't the *only* Beachcomber. Check out this site. Better'n any flea
market advice site!
- -Lou


Subject: Cool Fact: Ocean Refuse
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   The Learning Kingdom's Cool Fact of the Day for October 28, 1998
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
        What kind of man-made stuff is floating in the ocean?
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Millions of objects have been lost at sea over the years!  Single
accidents have released 500,000 cans of beer, 29,000 yellow ducks (and
other bathtub friends), 80,000 Nike sneakers, 5 million Lego toy
pieces, and hundreds of thousands of rubber sandals.

In addition, at any one time there are millions of chunks of trash and
other objects, and fifty or more abandoned vessels, all floating free,
carried by the currents on the open ocean.

Each year, thousands of these items wash ashore on beaches around the
world.  Some people study their patterns of distribution, which can
reveal much about currents and ocean circulation.  When an accident
releases a vast number of items, special alerts go out to beachcombers,
who watch for them and report the time and place where each object is
found.

The Beachcomber's Alert, with great stories about mysterious finds:
http://www.beachcombers.org




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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:03:39 -0800
From: "super k. riot" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) St. Frances E./Psychic T.V.

i dunno about Frances E... but psychic T.V. was a wierd industrialish
band that was famous for making wierd music. they tried to make music
that would somehow release the endorphins in your brain. i dunno too
much about it but the main guy in psychic tv was Fred Carter,he became
famous as a "performance artist" cutting his dick, and slicing his body
up for the sake of art. you can probably find psychic tv records at punk
rock/industrial record stores if you're in L.A. check out Vynil
fetish(hollywood) Arrons Records(hollywood) and Green Hell(sherman Oaks)
cy
ken


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:45:18 -0500
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Happy Birthday Headphones

>An index of the day's stories:
><http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1998/981027.atc.html>
>Stereo Headphones -- November will mark the 40th anniversary of the
>development of stereo headphones. Linda talks with John Koss, the man who
>invented the headphones. He was a young jazz musician looking for a better
>way to listen to music when he got the idea for stereo headphones -- and his
>invention changed the way that people listen to and use music. (4:30)

Aha! All questions are eventually answered here. I asked about the early
days of stereo headphones in Summer '97, and here it is. So now we know
that it's around 1958 that records mixed for headphone listening become a
possibility. Thanks.

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:03:28 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist-House of Games

 KFJC play list 10/11/98 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                            TRACK                             ALBUM
_______________________________________________________________
 The Planets                       Chunky

 Clifford Brown Septet         Joy Spring                        Pacific Jazz
 W/ Bob Gordon-Bari
 Zoot Sims-Tenor
 Russ Freeman-Pno
 Stu Williamson-Trbn
 Carson Smith-Bass
 Shelly Manne-Drums

 Ayers, Roy                        Aragon                            Coffy
 Stanley Myers                     Main Title                        Kaleidoscope Ost
 Free Design                       Make the Madness Stop         1967, Enoch Light

 Boogaloo Joe Jones            Someday, We'll Be             Prestige, 1969/70
                                   Together!
w/ Chas Earland-Organ
 Rusty Bryant-Tenor

 Russ Garcia Orch              Lost Souls of Saturn          Fantastica
 Frank Hunter Orch             White Goddess                 Ondioline
 Nordine, Ken                  Yellow                            Colors
                                   Green

 Electric Piano-                   Good Vibrations               Bell Records
 Playground

 Peter Thomas                  The Oblisk of Karnak          Chariots of the Gods
 Waters                            Mother Samuel                 Psych Exp Vol 2!
 Al Caiola                         Mod Squad Theme
 Augusto Martelli              M O O D

 Faster, Pussycat! Kill!
 Kill!                             The Break                         [coll]: Russ Meyer's

 Hugh Le Caine                 Mobile                            1970, Electronics
 Leith Stevens Orch            Havana Interlude                  Pr Hell 36 Ost
 Lord Sitar                        I Am the Walrus
 Ennio Morricone               Nobody Is Faster              My Name Is Nobody

 Jay Chattaway                 Mannequin's Revenge           Maniac Ost
                                   Maniac's Theme

 In Like Flint/Our                 Mince & Cook Till Tender      Soundtrack
 Lou Hoffner Trio              Harry in Orbit                    45 Rpm, Single
 Jerry Goldsmith                   Manhunt                           The Prize Ost
 Phil Moore Orch               Watch Your Step, Please       N.Y. Sweet
 Group One                         Brothers Go to Mothers        Request!
 Armando Travajoli             Rocking Horse                     7 Golden Men
 Harry Roche                       Spiral                            Easy Project
 Mort Lindsey Orch             Kerouzzzzzzzzzy, Man!         Roulette
 The Blues Swingers            Outskirts of Town             Prestige, 58

 Lois Cooper-Female            Seduction, Side 2                 Art Sound Label
 Greg Oliver-Male              A Frantic Bruising Kiss;      1961
 Dr Billy Rogers-Copy          A Mending Tongue;
 Del Staton-Elec Gtr           The Resilliant Breast Is-
                                   Swollen Beyond Belief

 Dick Hyman                    The Man From U.N.C.L.E.       O.R.G.A.N.
 Robert Cobert                 A Darkness at Collinswood     Dark Shadows
 Boris Karloff                     The Fortune Teller            Stereo, Vol 2
 Victims of Chance             Break Away                        Crestview
 Bernard Herrmann              Prelude                           Que From DTEST

 Paul Tanner With;             Sunrise/Moonlight             Music for
                                   Serenade             Heavenly Bodies
 Andre' Montero Orch

 Ken Nordine                   Moth                              Ken Nordine:
                                   Indians                           Robert Shure's
                                   Lampshades                        T W I N K

 Rick Horton                       Solar Emissions

 Don Sebesky/
 Larry Coryell                     Guru-Vin

 Gene Page                         Satin Soul
 Tongue                            Mind Blower                       Tongue
 Pete Rugolo               Diamond On The Move

KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
http://www.KFJC.org
http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames/
http://www.jackdiamond.com



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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:21:39 -0500
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Zinds!  What Finds!

So I went to L.A. and had a nice time.  Here is what I picked up, although
I haven't had the chance to listen to much. 1303 e-mails can do that to a
fella.

Some highlights:

1. The Museum of Television and Radio - I saw footage of Tom Lehrer on the
Frost Report and here is a question:  I saw a video compilation of what
were called "Scopitones", which I guess were shown in theatres.  Great
style to these music videos and I was told one was Johnny Hallyday,
however, the other was a group singing a song called "The Chunga Twist".
Who could that group be?  No refs in All Music or doing a metacrawler search.

"Do you wanna do the cha-cha?  No!!"

2.  On the way to the museum, a gentleman asked for some change.  I told
him I did not have any, which was the truth and that I was living off my
charge cards for the time being.  His suggestion: "Then let's go into that
restaurant and you can charge me a sandwich".  I demurred.

Whatever did I buy, though?

Zounds! What Sounds! - Dean Elliott and His Swinging Big, Big Band.
Yippee-I-O-Ky-ay.  I was to happy to find this, albeit in Mono.
Woody Herman - Children of Lima
Showtime at the Drumbeat - Features an alternate and livelier version of
the Chi Chi Merengue by Eloise (sorry King Kini!).  I had to put the copy
of the "Eloise Trio" back for lack of funds, sob, sob.

Arthur Lyman's Greatest Hits - I now have his fabulous version of "Afro
Blue"(thank you King Kini!)

Hi-Fireworks - Ferrante and Teicher.  Finally, I have a recording of them
a-plucking the piano.  This one was Three dollars.

The History of Space Age Pop, Vols 1 and 3.  (Thanks Irwin Chusid).  If I
had to pick a favorite, though, it's volume 2 for me.

My "Quiet Village" - Darla Hood.  Couldn't resist.  It's a vocal version!

I also saw a picture sleeve of Juan D. Peron.  Oof!
Brian Phillips
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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:16:00 -0800
From: Jack <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Site Location

Hey everybody,

I have a new url for my KFJC site AND it's under construction
so gimmie a break, will ya ???!!!

Rock on;  http://www.jackdiamond.to/houseofgames

Thank you!

Jack

"So that's it Pops, Santa did shout, and he buttoned his cashmere, and
quickly cut out.
Pops was wiggin' and he was out of his head, to dig this wild character who
wore all the red."

(Babs Gonzales: ("The Be Bop Santa Claus" circa 1955)



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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:38:48 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) It The Terror From Beyond Space!

At 10:18 AM 10/28/98 +0000, Darrell wrote:
>The music for It! was by old reliable Paul Sawtell (who also wrote
>music for The Fly, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and many others)
>and Bert Shefter.  To the best of my knowledge, there was never a
>soundtrack release.


A search at http://www.filmscoremonthly.com turns up the following releases
for Paul Sawtell:

Label    Number        Title                    Composer       Conductor    Format

GNP Cres GNPBX-3009  Voyage to the Bottom of the Se Sawtell, P.
T  6CD(4) 96
Todd     S-5001      Big Circus, The                Sawtell/Shefter Graunke,
K. F  LP(1)  59
Fox      S-3026      Dog of Flanders                Sawtell/Shefter
F  LP(1)  59
Cacophon CLP-1001    Kronos                         Sawtell/Shefter
F  LPL1)




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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:30:40 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) St. Frances E.

Can anyone tell me about Frances E. Dec? Was he a real person?

You can find out all his "fans" know at
http://www.teleport.com/~dkossy/schzwing.html
and then look around-the kooks museum is pretty damn inspiring.
- -dave


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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:33:31 +0100
From: Yves Dewulf <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) moog continued

>>   Think of it what you want.
>>   Reasonable people may want to compare the rhythm track
>>   (drums,guitar and bassline) of "Jericho Jerk" from
>>   Messe pour le temps Present (by Pierre Henry/Michel Colombier,1967)
>>   and "Cat in the Night" from Mood Indigo (J.J.Perrey,1970).
>>   ...etc...
>>   Jarre studied with Pierre Schaeffer of the GRM and I
>>   believe also Perrey had some contacts with thes guys.
>
> *  Being a 'reasonable person' I did attempt a comparison: increasing and
>  decreasing pitches, trapping and playing 4-bar loops to colleagues,
>  isolating certain key phrases and sounds, etc.  I found them to be
>  ..__very.__ different tracks.
>
> *  The difference may also be because the players on 'Cat in the Night'
> include Buddy Rich on drums, possibly then at the height of his
> distinctively heavy-handed playing; Vinnie Bell on guitar, creating as
> individual a style as his home-built effects units could cultivate; and a
> little known Italian arranger called Andy Badale, who later changed his
> name to Angelo Badalamenti.  Perrey, of course, played Moog and other keys.

   I still think both tracks are at least very similar.
   In my opinion Perrey took a small excerpt of Jericho Jerk,
   looped it, slowed it down and maybe filtered it a bit.
   (After all this is the same method as used in his plopping and
   hissing musique concrete rhythm tracks)
   Then it's possible he added some live musicians playing against
   that bassline.
   I should reinvestigate my records to be sure if it was a loop
   from the original or it was just all replayed by live musicians.
   In both cases I guess you could call it a prehistoric "sample",
   a quote from another work used in the creation of something new.

> *  Jean Jacques Perrey and Pierre Henry have both designed and delivered
> dynamic pieces of music that have crossed the generation gap, to have a
> contemporary relevance.  I hope, in their remaining years, that both will
> continue to be encouraged to design equally as innovative and imaginative
> works.  I believe it unreasonable to make accusations that they would never
> make themselves, and unreasonable to expect them to answer.

   I didn't mean to accuse J.J.Perrey for doing this. Au contraire !
   Maybe he was the first person to use a sample in pop-music.
   Which is by far a greater honour (IMHO) than the fact he would have
   written that catchy bassline himself.

   To put some more oil on the fire: doesn't the last track on
   Moog Indigo : Passport to the future , sound a bit like
   Telstar by the Tornados ?

   Maybe it's just all great Music !!!

   YVes






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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:57:55 +0000
From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel,belle!

If anybody's interested, I just got a record dealer's new list through the
post yesterday. Violent Violins is included but it has a very hefty
pricetag. If you think you want it, email me and I'll send the dealer's
details.



Charlie





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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:59:57 -0600
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Beachcombers Alert

Don weren't the only Beachcomber.
Check this out!
- -Lou


Subject: Cool Fact: Ocean Refuse
        What kind of man-made stuff is floating in the ocean?
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Millions of objects have been lost at sea over the years!  Single
accidents have released 500,000 cans of beer, 29,000 yellow ducks (and
other bathtub friends), 80,000 Nike sneakers, 5 million Lego toy
pieces, and hundreds of thousands of rubber sandals.

In addition, at any one time there are millions of chunks of trash and
other objects, and fifty or more abandoned vessels, all floating free,
carried by the currents on the open ocean.

Each year, thousands of these items wash ashore on beaches around the
world.  Some people study their patterns of distribution, which can
reveal much about currents and ocean circulation.  When an accident
releases a vast number of items, special alerts go out to beachcombers,
who watch for them and report the time and place where each object is
found.

The Beachcomber's Alert, with great stories about mysterious finds:
http://www.beachcombers.org




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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 98 11:22:35 -0000
From: bsalter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) moog continued

>>>> HENRY, PIERRE-Messe Pour Le Temps Present
>>>
>>>  Parts of this album were "sampled" by JJ Perrey on
>>>  a track of his Moog Indigo album.
>>
>> That simply is untrue.  None of Pierre Henry's work features on ..__any.__
>> of Perrey's compositions.  An opinion presented as fact remains an opinion.
>>
>>  d e s
>

Umm, at his lecture / demo in SF last week, JJP specifically mentioned
having
'sampled' that album!  He knew Schaeffer, Henry, et al, at the time...
he had studied musique concrete with Schaeffer, and near the end of
his studies, announced to his teacher that he wanted to use the techniques
to create 'electronic pop' music, to which Schaeffer pompously replied,
"You will NEVER succeed!"   ;)

- -Brian



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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:48:56 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) New releases

Up and coming discs of interest to this list, culled from various sources...

JUST OUT
*Stereolab: Aluminum Tunes (Singles) (Drag City, two-disc set)

NOVEMBER 3
*The Look of Love: The Burt Bacharach Collection (Rhino, three-disc set)
*The Best of Schoolhouse Rock (KidRhino)
*More from the Burt Bacharach Songbook (Varese Vintage)
*International Pop Overthrow (various artists, Del-Fi)
*Mission Accomplished: Vol. 2 (Hip-O)
*Sci-Fi's Greatest Hits (TVT, four-disc set)

NOVEMBER 17
*Ben Folds: Fear of Pop (Sony) -- Ben's solo experimental record, said to be
influenced by Air. Includes vocals from William Shatner on one cut
*Delphonic Sounds Today: Del-Fi Does Del-Fi (Del-Fi) -- Wondermints and other
artist cover classic exotica and surf

NOVEMBER 24
*Burt Bacharach: One Amazing Night (N2K) -- album of concert shown on TNT
earlier this year, includes Ben Folds Five, Chrissie Hynde, Sheryl Crow,
Barenaked Ladies, Dionne Warwick, others

TO BE RESCHEDULED ... AGAIN
*Sid & Marty Krofft: H.R. Pufnstuf and Other Greatest Hits (Interscope)


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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:10:11 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: McKuen: Beatsville

>From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>

>from Forced Exposure:
>
>MCKUEN, ROD: Beatsville CD (P22 006). "Reissue of the classic 1959 LP.
>First time ever on CD........

    great news! please tell us, Arjan: what is "Forced Exposure"?
    sounds like a Schwarzenegger movie to me ;-)
    do they have a web site? where is this cd for sale?

    thanx!

        Johan


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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:44:08 +0100
From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: don't buy sushi 4004 LP!

>From: Bissia <[e-mail]>

>Hi Johan, maybe the pressing you've got is bad !
>Also, when a groove is stucked in vinyls ; it maybe a little
>fly shit to remove, or just give the cells with a finger hit,

    yep, thought of that too, but how do i know? there are clear darker
    grooves at those places where the needle sucks, so there is
    something intended here, but what?
    and no, there's no fly shit on it ;-)
    hitting the needle, sure, but then you miss some parts of the music;
    increasing the weight of the stylus didn't work either...

        Johan


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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:40:26 -0800
From: Jane Tunks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Halloween in Los Angeles

For all you exoticats in the Los Angeles area, please come to our party.
And wear a costume, godammit.


        SHORE LEAVE ON ZOMBIE ISLAND
                  A Costume Party for Lost Souls
                            AT BAHOOKA
                      Halloween, 8pm - 1am
                              FREE!

The ghost ships have dropped anchor, and it's time to party with the
bloated corpses of the drowned.  Welcome to Zombie Island, a Cacophonist
never-never land of malaria-ridden whorehouses, evil mojo, and swell
drinks.  By day, we call this place Bahooka's Rib's and Grog, and if you've
never treated yourself to visit, you've never seen what is surely
California's greatest remaining monument to Tiki Kulture.  It's a wild
shipwreck of a place -- a colossal labyrinth of dark cubbyholes overhung
with tangled masses of nautical curios and rusted beachcombing finds.  The
sole illumination comes from the occasional blowfish lamp and the dim glow
of more than 150 aquariums -- a fittingly murky setting for drowning
oneself in the resident witch doctor's concoctions served up in ceremonial
vessels, some with straws well over a foot long.  Arrive early, order a
flaming bowl and meditate on the dancing blue light, or commune with the
fishes swimming dizzy circles inside the glass-topped bar.  Soon you'll
note a fog rolling in along with legions of zombies, pirates, whores, and
headhunters.  You find yourself jostled by roving buccaneer musicians, and
shrunken-head salesmen, dragged in by the beat of native drums, lost in a
devilishly crafted soundtrack of sea-sick exotica breaking up on rugged
reefs of Mau Mau guitar, and swirling into black-lagoon mambos.  Make your
way back to the banquet room, and catch some classic zombie movies or
sample our Cannibal Buffet. Yeah, you're gonna love it here on Zombie
Island.  And all it'll cost is one pitiful soul.  (Free, if you've lost
yours.)

Costuming: Prizes for the best and most appropriate.  Also, if you're young
enough to require ID, please remember that you'll need to preserve some
resemblance to your DMV photo if you want to sample the forbidden nectar of
the gods.
Where: Bahooka, 4501 Rosemead Blvd. in Rosemead, 10 minutes from downtown
Los Angeles, just south of Pasadena.  (E. on 1-10, N. on Rosemead Exit)
Map:
http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=4501+Rosemead+Blvd&csz=Roseme
ad%2C+CA&Get+Map=Get+Map
Info: [phone].




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