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exotica-digest        Wednesday, August 5 1998        Volume 02 : Number 180



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
(exotica) mighty mellow & other treats
Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
(exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL
Re: (exotica) Disney again!
(exotica) Chapman's Lennon album goes on sale
(exotica) Autographed LPs
Re: (exotica) Disney again!
(exotica) That Insufferable Mr. Jenkins
(exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL
(exotica) Question List
Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
(exotica) Fwd: Burt & Elvis info
Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Ducks Reply
(exotica) Whither Vik?
(exotica) Saving Jessica
(exotica) Flint CD
Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats
Re: (exotica) Whither Vik?
Re: (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ...
Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats
Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach
Re: (exotica) Question List
(exotica) Who'se calling who tedious?
Re: (exotica) Another Cool Book
Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores
Re: (exotica) Question List
Re: (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry
(exotica) An Exotica Moment in the Middle of Nowhere

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 13:34:16 -0700
From: Dave Davidson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD

At 12:09 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Jack wrote:
>
>Attention:
>New CD Reissue just added:
>Original Soundtrack:
>Jerry Goldsmith; Planet of the Apes - $8 plus shipping

There have been a couple of budget-priced Planet of the Apes soundtracks
around for a while, but there is a recent re-issue which is the only one
I'd recommend, although I believe its NOT budget priced (prob around $15):

Planet of the Apes, Varese Sarabande, VSD5848, 1997

This is the only CD reissue which has the ENTIRE score, I think.  The
others have only highlights.  Also included is a 16 1/2 minute suite from
"Escape to the Planet of the Apes."  The liner notes are superb, and the
smart remastering provides excellent sound quality.

I completely agree with the fact that this soundtrack is REQUIRED listening
(and owning).

Dave




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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:33:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats

Been listening to "the mighty mellow" on Partners in Crime (1997) from
http://www.interactive.net/~tomc

This has to be one of the smoothest mellowest funkiest psychedelic
easy listening experiences in my whole collect of vinyl & plastic
covered aluminum.
I can't imagine anyoe not liking this on the list. Its a  70 minute
must own escapade into very sophisticated  sounds.

Not quite as impressive but another must own treat is "erotica ITALIA"
on BMG Eurodisc (Arista 3484) 1997  Its title is quite appropriate for
describing the sound of the music. It also says "The 'Kama Sutra of
Italian erotic movie music from the 1960's and 70's, compiled and
presented by Patrick Whitaker and Martin Green, Th Sound Curators"  (
Who we all know from the Sound Gallery and Sound Spectrum. ) Excuse me
but I can't remember if this particular cd was already mentioned on
the list.

From France comes "ollano" by ollano on Rosebus records and Barclay
533-249-2 (1996) again form Tom at [e-mail]   I heard
about this band on the Music to Watch Comets By compilation by the
Gentle People.   This cd contains great vocals by a pair of different
female vocalists, one earthy and the other from heaven, her voice on
"Lattitudes" from the Pink Panther  is worth the price of the cd by
itself.   The songs are straight ahead lounge ballads French exotica
with half of the songs containing very modern acid jazz influences.

From http://www.dustygroove.com    comes "idyllic" a 1997  idyllic
records compilation with the Silent Poets, Spiritual Vibes, Natural
Calaity, & Nobukazu Takemura. A variety of styles some Bossa
influenced Japanese vocals, some easy sounds bording on Ambient and
some ambient.  It is way out there and I give it a 7 out of 10.
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD

Dave:

Another good reason why Varese Sarabande is one of the premier labels
out these days.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

- ---Dave Davidson  wrote:
> I'd recommend, although I believe its NOT budget priced (prob around
$15):
> Planet of the Apes, Varese Sarabande, VSD5848, 1997

> This is the only CD reissue which has the ENTIRE score, I think.
The others have only highlights.  Also included is a 16 1/2 minute
suite from "Escape to the Planet of the Apes."  The liner notes are
superb, and the smart remastering provides excellent sound quality.
 I completely agree with the fact that this soundtrack is REQUIRED
listening (and owning).
>
> Dave

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 13:52:44 -0700
From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL

Hello all,

I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue  of the
"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666

Excellent pressing, original front and back covers, Inside Full Color Sleeve
Inna word...GOR-GEEEE-OUS.

Inside and Out a real beauty

$20 plus shipping, Ltd to 1,000 copies

Remember, a few means a few

Thanks again,
Jack

Hello all,

I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue  of the
"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666

Excellent pressing, original front and back covers, Inside Full Color Sleeve
Inna word...GOR-GEEEE-OUS.

Inside and Out a real beauty

$20 plus shipping, Ltd to 1,000 copies

Remember, a few means a few

Thanks again,
Jack


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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 23:54:23 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again!

[e-mail] wrote:

> << After Walt's death things went awfully wrong... Walt would never ever have
>  allowed to serve food on paper plates with plastic forks in ... France! >>
>
> I don't know if I agree with this.  Walt was a lot more shrewd that you think.

??? In my dictionary "shrewd" means "smart". So? That's what I think he was...
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 23:04:41 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Lou Smith)
Subject: (exotica) Chapman's Lennon album goes on sale

    WASHINGTONVILLE, N.Y., Aug. 5 (UPI) -- A Washingtonville,
N.Y., company is selling the record album John Lennon autographed for
Mark David Chapman before he killed the Beatle.
    Moments in Time president Gary Zimet said today he got the
piece of memorabilia from a man who claims he found it in the front
gate flower planter outside Lennon's Manhattan apartment building, the
Dakota.
    According to Zimet, the ``Double Fantasy'' album bears the
singer's signature and Chapman's forensically enhanced fingerprints.
    He adds that prosecutors used the record cover and dust jacket
as evidence in the killer's trial and when they returned it to the
owner, sent a letter of gratitude.
    Moments in Time is asking for $1.8 million for the album,
which comes with full documentation.
    Chapman fatally shot the legendary performer in front of the
Dakota on the night of Dec. 8, 1980. A picture of Lennon signing
Chapman's copy of the recordings appeared in newspapers and on
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:07:46 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Autographed LPs

Subject: Chapman's Lennon album goes on sale

    WASHINGTONVILLE, N.Y., Aug. 5 (UPI) -- A Washingtonville,
N.Y., company is selling the record album John Lennon autographed for
Mark David Chapman before he killed the Beatle.
    Moments in Time president Gary Zimet said today he got the
piece of memorabilia from a man who claims he found it in the front
gate flower planter outside Lennon's Manhattan apartment building, the
Dakota.
    According to Zimet, the ``Double Fantasy'' album bears the
singer's signature and Chapman's forensically enhanced fingerprints.
    He adds that prosecutors used the record cover and dust jacket
as evidence in the killer's trial and when they returned it to the
owner, sent a letter of gratitude.
    Moments in Time is asking for $1.8 million for the album,
which comes with full documentation.
    Chapman fatally shot the legendary performer in front of the
Dakota on the night of Dec. 8, 1980. A picture of Lennon signing
Chapman's copy of the recordings appeared in newspapers and on
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 15:12:19 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again!

Yes, but with complementary calculation, slyness. This Disney thing is
growing tiresome though, isn't it? The thing is no more, nor should it
ever be taken as anything more shimmering or nefarious than a bright
little blister under the armpit of our lovely and too self-obsessed
western culture. I do like your use of "Magick" in ref. to the Walt's
place - as though after all the kiddies and their plump pink parents had
split and the last woozy teen revived from his Goofy suit, the Master
Therion sheds his Michael Eisner and plots the next act of sappy
celluloid venifice.

Oh, and Disney store says no go on Tiki Room Reissue. Fiends.
>
>??? In my dictionary "shrewd" means "smart". So? That's what I think he
was...
>MO*
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:23:59 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) That Insufferable Mr. Jenkins

FWD:

<*> Meanwhile, Thinking Media's Don Westrich says they've
created the coolest banner ever, bar none.
The goal of their Java applet is to help Tanqueray's Mr.
Jenkins get an olive into a Martini glass. A lever lets
you control how hard Mr. Jenkins swings the golfclub.

Since the olive gets picked up by birds or lands in water
traps, it's a devilishly difficult game! But fear not, cause
while you play the game on a "sitelet" you can see ads for
Bloomberg, CMP, Hollywood Stock Exchange and Playboy. Check
it out at the URL below and click on "Turf" (Golf Game).

=> http://www.tanqueray.com




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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:34:49 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Man In Space With Sounds VINYL

At 01:52 PM 8/5/98 -0700, Jaaaack wrote:
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have a *few* copies of the Spanish Import LP Reissue  of the
>"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Catalog # 66666

OK, now I'm confused! Didn't we conclude that these Limited Edition Spanish
import LPs (like Moon Gas) are pirate copies. Does this mean Jack is selling
illegal copies of his own legit re-issue?!? What gives?

- -Lou




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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 18:43:17 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Question List

At 02:01 PM 8/5/98 EDT, Robert wrote:
>Can someone post the question list again so those interested in filling it out
>can do so?  The list without someone completing it already would be more
>helpful.

OK, here it is once again. To make it interesting, why not add at least one
previously un-asked question? I've added a few new ones for this time around.
- -Lou

> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

> 3. This list could help you more by...

> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
> Tell us more!

> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

> 9. Shaken or stirred?

> 10. I clean my LPs with ...

> 11. My home page URL is:

> 12. I have a Licence To ...




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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:44:52 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD

Wait a second here.  Varese Sarbande recently re-issued this CD with more
bonus tracks, better sound, and the incredible "Suite From Escape From The
Planet of The Apes".  Don't buy the old version for $8.00.  Go out to a decent
CD store and get the remastered and longer version.  It sounds great!

Larry


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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:05:32 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fwd: Burt & Elvis info

FYI, everybody...
- --Rod
- -------------

Spin On-Line reports some info regarding the upcoming Elvis/Burt Bacharach
album.  The tentative track listing is as follows:

  *In The Darkest Place
  *Toledo
  *I Still Have That Other Girl
  *This House Is Empty Now
  *Tears At The Birthday Party
  *Such Unlikely Lovers
  *My Thief
  *The Long Division
  *Painted From Memory
  *The Sweetest Punch
  *What's Her Name Today?

Guest appearances have been mentioned from ex-Attraction Steve Nieve,
drummer Jim Keltner, bassist Greg Cohen, and guitarist Dean Parks.  Spin
On-Line refers to Painted From Memory as a 12 track album, yet only 11 are
listed.  Release dates are September 29 for the US, September 28 for
international release, and September 2 in Japan.  The Japanese release is
said to contain one bonus track.

Billboard also reports that they will be releasing an album of jazz
reworkings of Burt's material.


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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 14:48:07 -0700
From: Thom Heileson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Ducks Reply

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>

> "Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent?  Or do people
> really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American
> entertainment?  Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed
> by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third
> World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks
> constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states?  Or are we all too
> besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of
> mouse ears darkening the land?"

While these interpretations must seem familiar to any intelligent soul
that
ever encountered the Disney empire, the fascination of Disneyland
remains. It
is not despite but because of this ambiguity of the glossy surface on
one hand
and the law & orderdly, well... fascist, background of it on the other.
You can
actually SEE how society works when watching this masterpiece dreamland
of
manipulation "between the lines".

Along these lines of discussion, I _heartily_ recommend finding a copy
of "How To Read Donald Duck" - it's a 1971 Chilean Marxist
deconstruction of DD comix. Pretty entertaining, and interesting. Much
of it goes way too far, but there are some poignant points made. Finds
capitalist symbolism in the plots, character relationships, and the fact
that none of the ducks wear pants. (This was assigned reading for an MFA
seminar of mine...)

Thom
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:57:21 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Whither Vik?

Two things that I noted in tonight's web crawl...

1) The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net
broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA (an organization of the major
record companies) -- this is in addition to the existing payments to ASCAP &
BMI (totally separate organizations, as explained recently by Br. Cleve). And
no, traditional radio has never had to pay any such fee (and will still not
have to).
Story at:
http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,24940,00.html

2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"!
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/radiovik.html

Are these items connected?

If you haven't been following it, the "majors" have been getting very cranky
lately regarding internet audio. With the possibility of new technology
obsoleting their lucrative role as middle-men between the artists and the
listeners, I think we may see things get very nasty.

King Kini -- watch your back!

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 21:05:57 -0500
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Saving Jessica

At 08:40 AM 8/4/98 -0700, Chuck wrote:
>
>First Irwin left, then Jack and now the Vinyl Collecting Queen of the
>Exotica Scene, who is next?
>
>Jessica you are in our exotica prayers, I hope all is well.

Didn't she have an .edu e-mail account? Perhaps she's on a roadtrip during
summer break.

- -Lou




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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:21:00 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flint CD

Someone mentioned a few weeks ago that the "Our Man Flint/In Like Flint" CD
had different mixes than those found on the original LP's. I finally got to
hear this CD the other day and discovered that it is not the original LP's
at all, but the original soundtrack cues from the actual film. Anyone who
has the albums and has seen the films knows that both theme songs are
slightly different in the films than on the records (longer; different into
on "Our Man...."). The giveaway in the liner notes is the line "mastered
from the original 35mm recordings". Soundtrack albums were recorded at
different sessions than the film tracks, and had oftentimes had different
arrangements, shorter cues stretched out to make them more like a record
track, etc.

The most different track is "Ladies, Please Remove Your Hats"; it does not
have the same intro as the version on the "In Like....." album, which was
sampled by Dimitri and The Gentle People.

Overall, the sound quality is pretty amazing. If you own the LP's, the CD
is still highly recommended. And vice versa.

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:28:37 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats

At 1:33 PM -0700 8/5/98, chuck wrote:

>>From France comes "ollano" by ollano on Rosebus records and Barclay
>533-249-2 (1996) ....  The songs are straight ahead lounge ballads French
>exotica
>with half of the songs containing very modern acid jazz influences.

For the U.S. members of the list - this album is due to be released as a
domestic issue sometime this fall. Sorry, I don't remember what label.
(Ashley? can you shed some light on this?)

I picked up the latest in the Easy Tempo series, volume 7, which is titled
"Bikini Beat". It's a fine collection of swinging, psychedelic Italian film
music, some of which appears on other (full soundtrack) releases on the
same label, such as "Sweden: Heaven & Hell", "Camille 2000", etc. But the
exciting news on the back cover is that they will soon be issuing the
granddaddy of 'em all, Piero Piccioni's score to "La Decima Vittima", AKA
"The 10th Victim", with bonus material not found on the very rare,
incredibly lo-fi OST (released on Mainstream in the U.S. in '65). Judging
from the 1 track on "Bikini Beat", the sound quality will be much better
than heard on that 33 year old album (or the bootleg of it that appeared a
few years ago).

What a year from the Italians. The comps, the soundtracks, the Danger:
Diabolik theme, and now this. To the Easy Tempo, Irma la Douce and Partners
In Crime record labels - Grazie!!

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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:32:47 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Whither Vik?

At 7:57 PM -0400 8/5/98, m.ace wrote:

>1) The RIAA is succeeding in getting a new law passed to require net
>broadcasters to pay an additional fee to the RIAA

>2) Radio Vik is suddenly "off the air"!

>Are these items connected?

I'm sure Vik is aware of these legal issues, as by day he is a webmaster
for a record company. But in a related note, he told me last week that he
has shut down Vik's Lounge, but will be keeping it "frozen in time", like
the Space Age Bachelor Pad site.

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 21:34:23 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ...

At 12:38 PM 05/08/98 -0400, Chris Cook wrote:

>There's a strange remoteness to this stuff that sometimes really sucks me
>in.  Kinda like the music just plods along on its own without anyone really
>taking responsibility for it .. The ka-chunk bass &
>drop-kick drum are so regular and monotonous they almost sound mechanical.

> Sometimes I find myself rationalizing myself into "liking" something.

What I've found in the three years or so that I've been listening
constantly to ALL THIS STUFF we talk about - and Ross sort of touched on
this in his FAQ - is that I can listen to almost anything and maybe even
like almost anything.

Though I haven't stopped loving jazz, blues, soul, country and rock, I'd
have to admit that just by virtue of the number of records passing through
my apartment, the number of records I have to "check out", I've ended up
listening to "all this stuff" three times more than all the stuff put
together.  At this very moment, I'm listening to Roger Williams doing "Tiny
Bubbles".

A friend of mine had about 30 Roger Williams records and when I scoffed, he
said that he could make a pretty hot half a tape from those 30 records.
And I actually understood the logic there.  Then he played me a version of
"Frenesi" that kinda blew me away.  So today at the Goodwill I bought a
Roger Williams record I'd passed up a thousand times and so far I've heard
pretty good versions of "I'm a believer" and "Music to watch girls by" and
a very good version of "Sunrise, Sunset".

But the point is, I also blithely sat by as "Tiny Bubbles" was playing.
And that's what I'll probably do all night tonight.  No Coltrane, no Blind
Willie Johnson, no Yo La Tengo, no Al Green, no Louvin Brothers.  Instead
it'll be Roger Williams, Sandler and Young, The Great Strings (who?), Peter
Nero, "the accordion stylings of... Shelly Taylor", "organ fantasies in
hi-fi" by Shay Torrent and Ralph Bell and saving the best for last, "the
Happy Hammond goes Pop".

Maybe between all those records, I'll squeeze out 20 minutes on various
tapes.  Maybe one or two of those records will go on the "official record
shelves" and the rest will be hidden in dark corners for friends with worse
taste than me.

But that's what I'll be listening to tonight.  A lot of crap... separated
by moments where I think "oh this is not bad".  Or "I might use this on a
tape someday".

So yeah Bert Kaempfert mostly just "plods along".  And if you ask me "Do
you like the music of Bert Kaempfert", my answer will likely be "Hell no.
He's boring."  But that won't stop me from listening to him or even buying
his records, especially if it's a choice between that and coming home empty
handed, in which case I'd actually be forced to look through my records and
find something I used to love.

I think it's gotten to the point where my heart can only withstand
genuinely moving music about once a month.  And in preparation for that one
moment of potential bliss, I have to spend the rest of the month packing my
heart in cotton balls... like Bert Kaempfert.

Nat



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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 98 21:51:53 -0400
From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) mighty mellow & other treats

>For the U.S. members of the list - this album is due to be released as a
>domestic issue sometime this fall. Sorry, I don't remember what label.
I think Ollano's CD is out in the US on Shadow Records, in a nice
cardboard-type sleeve. "Latitude" is my favorite song on it, arranged by
strings master Bertrand Burgalat and with vocals by LNA, Lio's sister
(minute details for French pop fans out there). And speaking of Mr.
Burgalat, the brilliant album he produced for April March and which came
out only in Japan will be released by NickelBag in the US in the fall.

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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 21:54:07 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach

At 09:57 AM 05/08/98 -1000, Stephen Funk wrote:

>Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's
>not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate.
>His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone
>else's, which is sort of the appeal.

I don't know about his playing but I love Cal Tjader.  Anything by him...
even though I have to admit that the "West Side Story" LP I bought recently
was kind of mediocre.
I got turned (back) onto him by the only one of those cheezily packaged
Verve "Jazz Masters" CD's I've ever allowed myself to buy.  "Cuchi Frito"
on that collection is just amazing.
I also have a reissued LP of "Latin Kick" which is pretty cool and but
surprisingly a little more mellow than I expect Cal to be.  It's not all
mellow but some of the tunes sound like very good Martin Denny.
The coolest reissued thing I've bought - and which was discussed on this
list not long ago - is the 2-in-1 reissue of "Several Shades of Jade" and
"Breeze from the East".  "Several Shades", is truly great I think.   The
liner notes for the reissue claim that "Breeze" was pretty much a dog and
that it's only included in the package so as to allow "Shades" to shine
even more by comparison.
"Breeze" is certainly not the record "Shades" is but I kind of like it for
its cheeziness.

Cal Tjader is an example for me of an artist I once completely dismissed
who was totally elevated for me by my interest in exotica, lounge etc.  For
me he's now like the ULTIMATE lounge/exotica artist.  The cream of the genre.

It's amazing how much you can love something if you can just give up all
notions of taste.

Nat



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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 22:30:55 -0400
From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List

At 06:43 PM 05/08/98 -0500, Lou Smith wrote:

>> 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

No.  My brother is but he wouldn't listen to these records if I paid him.

>> 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

Toss up between Lenny Dee doing "Taste of Honey" and Al Caiola's "Sounds
for Spies and Private Eyes", particularly the tunes "Man of Mystery" and
"Bronze Doll".  And then there was "Persuasive" and "Provocative Percussion".

>> 3. This list could help you more by...

Everybody on the list accepting ALL my opinions... and sending me one of
their favorite records whenever they particularly agree.

>> 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Nothing.  Unless you differentiate between records and record jackets.  I
occasionally buy chachkes especially but except for their total
uselessness, there's no "theme" that ties them together.
I do however own one pretty unique piece of tiki paraphenalia and someday I
plan to send it to someone on this list if in return he will agree not to
post anything about Thor Heyerdahl for a whole month.

>>> 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

Everything except The Moody Blues and The Three Tenors.  And of course the
she-beast Celine Dion.

>> 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

I think I've told you almost everything.  Except my real name.  And
eventually, if enough of you send me records or tapes, I'll be forced to
tell it to the rest of you.  Either that or get fake I.D. with "Nat Kone"
on it.  But even when you all know it, I still want you to call me Nat.

>> 7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP?  And why do you?  Is it a sound quality
>> consideration?  The aesthetics of LP art?  The supposed clarity of CDs?
>> Tell us more!

Someday you will all hear my opinions about this in a more complete manner.
 (I probably should have included that under "things I'm dying to tell
you".) But for now, all I can say is that I don't own a single CD which
means as much to me as any piece of vinyl.  I know that not all CD's are as
replaceable as they seem but that is the way I feel about them.
Put it this way... I would never keep a CD unless I genuinely loved the
music on it.  I would never keep a CD for its sentimental or romantic
value. Or even for its "cool quotient".  Let me check the shelves for a
second to see if I can find an exception.
Okay, maybe that Russ Meyer CD thing qualifies as an object rather than
something I keep for the music but that's the only exception I could see.

I wouldn't buy a spoken word CD.  I wouldn't buy a Little Marcy CD.  I
wouldn't buy a CD called "The Sound of Streetcars" with Toronto streetcars,
circa the early sixties and liner notes meticulously mapping the routes the
streetcars took as they were recorded.

>>> 8. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
>> other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

Uh.. no, no and I'm not generally proud of clothes.

>> 9. Shaken or stirred?

At my age and size, stirred would probably be safer.
I've only had a martini once and I didn't like it.

>> 10. I clean my LPs with ...

When I clean them, which is seldom, my secret weapon is Ultra Palmolive for
Sensitive Skin.  And I use a paper towel and TAP WATER.  And I allow it to
dry in the drain board rather than pat it down with diapers.
But my friend has one of those vaccuum machines so occasionally he treats
me to a spin on the machine.


>> 11. My home page URL is:

I don't have one but I will within the year I think.

>> 12. I have a Licence To ...

Oh man.  Make your own jokes here.

"Have mixed emotions about everything".

Like I do right now about sending this...

Damn, I thought I was going to let this thread pass me by...

Nat



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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:11:16 EST
From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Who'se calling who tedious?

Charles Moseley wrote:
> Is endless dicussion about the morality of, and experiences within
> thrift stores boring? Yes
> Is continual discussion of Disney equally tedious? Yes
> Would we all like to see the list return to the discussion of records? =
> Yes
There's a hell of a lot more to Exotica (as there is to any
musical genre) than simply the music... but yes, the discussion of
records is and has always been the focus of this list, at least since
I've been subscribed. The only thing that's tedious here is having to
read these sorts of shallow comments!!!

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:37:36 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Cool Book

Of course, the process by which "pure" Hawaiian music came to be is the same
process by which "pure" Bluegrass (incredible mongrel mixture of string band,
hot rhythm, Appalachian folk song, blues etc.) or most any other genre came to
fruition. Nothing pure about it - long live musical bastardy!

- --David


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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:41:31 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores

If you think garage sales are creepy, wait until you go hardcore and start
checking for Estate Sales in the paper... (great way to snag goodies,
though)...

- --David


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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 22:58:10 -0400
From: Jordana <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question List

Lou Smith wrote:

> > 9. Shaken or stirred?
Um, chocolate?  Actually, I've never tasted a chocolate one, but I
think martinis are kind of gross.  I like girly drinks.

> > 10. I clean my LPs with ...
a damp paper towel for the cover, if it's really dingy.  I'm not in
the habit of cleaning my vinyl, though I know it's naughty of me.

> > 11. My home page URL is:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2157

> > 12. I have a Licence To ...
Be Indecisive.

> >13. The first record I ever bought was...
Miss Piggy's Arobique Workout Album (and I still have it).

Jordana
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:57:45 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry

I will note that Rod's "Hippie Trip" is a bowdlerized version of "Beatsville"
with some of the more risque lines in "Krakow's Party" (aka "RSVP") removed.
My buddy Kim Cooper did a whole article on this in her zine Scram.  (my next
article therein will be on the Archies if anybody has a taste for bubblegum).

- --David


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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 22:37:29
From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) An Exotica Moment in the Middle of Nowhere

Driving back from Seattle last week, we stopped for lunch in Fort Stockton,
Texas, which at 250 miles from El Paso and 300 miles from San Antonio is
qualifies as the middle of nowhere.  Generic motel restaurant.  As we're
sitting there, I realized the background music was a regular exotica/easy
listening greatest hits fest:

"Wonderland at Night" by Bert Kaempfert
"Ebb Tide" by Frank Chacksfield
"Patricia" by Lenny Dee
"Poor People of Paris" by Les Baxter
"Quiet Village" by Martin Denny
"Delicado" by Percy Faith
"Holiday for Strings" by David Rose
"Shangri-La" by Jackie Gleason
"Miserlou" by Roger Williams or someone like him
"Lara's Theme" by Ray Conniff

and as I was paying and asking the cashier whether this was Muzak or tape
("Ah dunno"),

"The Third Man Theme" by Anton Karas

Almost made the mediocre food and service worth it.

But wait--there's more (as Count von Count would say):

We stopped to gas up before leaving, and I noticed that the little quarter
kids' carousel at the truck stop was playing a nickolodeon version of
"Lara's Theme."

DO NOT take this as a suggestion to visit Fort Stockton, though.

Brad
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