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exotica-digest Wednesday, August 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 179
In This Digest:
(exotica) oncoming tv
(exotica) Disney again!
Re: (exotica) That's his suit (but where's his shoes, LPs, and, um...hisself?)
Re: (exotica) Lord Hawke obit
Re: (exotica) Disney again!
Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply
Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Re: (exotica) re exotica suggestions
(exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry
Re: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
Re: (exotica) re: More on Thrifts
Re: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity
Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply
(exotica) Nathan van Cleave
(exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ...
(exotica) sorry......
(exotica) Would Taylor Deems this necessary?
(exotica) sorry ...
(exotica) Re: Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer
(exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach
(exotica) Question List - Please re-post
Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores -Reply
(exotica) Gravelands
(exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach
Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
(exotica) Another Cool Book
Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
(exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
(exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply -Reply
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 21:40:11 -0400
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: (exotica) oncoming tv
A few things this coming weekend on US teletubbies, er television...
(eastern daylight times)
Saturday morning - 7:00am, Sunday morning - 4:00am - A&E - "Beat The
Devil" (1954) A droll, casual comedy directed by John Huston, scripted
by Huston and Truman Capote. Set mostly in a small Mediterranean
sea-port, Humphrey Bogart, Gina Lollobrigida, Jennifer Jones, Robert
Morley, Peter Lorre and a few others play ne'er-do-wells out to make
money on African uranium claims. Shot on location in Italy. It feels
like they were all just hanging out and decided to do a movie. I know
that's not true, but that's the wonderfully casual feeling the movie
has.
Saturday night/Sunday morning - 2:00am - AMC - "Murder, Inc." (1960)
No-nonsense true tales crime saga with Peter Falk as syndicate killer,
Abe Reles. With Stuart Whitman, Henry Morgan, May Britt, Sarah Vaughan,
Joseph Campanella, Morey Amsterdam. Memorable for the scene where
"Columbo" stabs "Buddy" in the gut.
Sunday - 1:05pm, 8:00pm, Monday morning - 5:00am - Bravo - The "Dusty
Springfield: Full Circle" documentary gets a few more airings. Very
good, lots of cool 60s footage. Presented by Jennifer Saunders and Dawn
French. Sadly, if you haven't heard, Dusty is now in her second battle
with cancer.
Sunday night (or is it Monday morning) - Midnight, Monday - 7:00pm,
Tuesday - 5:00am - Bravo - The recently mentioned "Soul Of Stax"
documentary runs again. It's not actually a new production from Bravo,
but a French/British production done a few years ago.
"Teletubbies" -- er, yes. Fans of unusual television should indeed
catch an episode. I wouldn't want to make a habit of watching it, but I
have seen one episode, and it's definitely very odd. Then again, if you
can't handle "sickly pop" (to use Jill's phrase), you might want to
steer clear. Check your local PBS station's morning schedule.
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:39:34 EST
From: "Brian Karasick" <BRIAN@PHYRES.Lan.McGill.CA>
Subject: (exotica) Disney again!
Nat wrote:
> << DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!!
> End of discussion.
I'll put it more politely... With all due respect to Walt, the
Enchanted Tiki Room, and the great Disney imagination of the past,
being neither a Spielberg fan nor a frequent visitor to McDonalds,
I haven't got a whole lot of respect for what its become.
In one of the more arrogant forms of corporate markerting greed,
Disney chose to "reissue" as "limited editions" classic Disney
films only once every xx years both to theatres and to video (of
course usually around key holidays and with convenient product
launches attached). I think the strategy failed as most stores seem
to have large stocks. But really, depriving kids of these classics to
get higher sales, now that's worthy of respect! I won't even touch on
the remakes...
Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:29:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter C <sophisticated_savage@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) That's his suit (but where's his shoes, LPs, and, um...hisself?)
- ---Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>
> Police are investigating the missing body as a possible theft.
Let┤s give them a clue: try nearest Thrift store
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:36:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter C <sophisticated_savage@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lord Hawke obit
- ---Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com> wrote:
>
>
>KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent (AP) -- Calypso singer Lloyd Providence,
betterknown as Lord Hawke, was found dead Monday morning in his home
on the Caribbean island of St. Vincent, police reported. He was 54.
>Providence appeared to have died from natural causes, police said.
Sounds more like Voodoo to me
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 11:05:58 +0000
From: Moritz R <Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney again!
Brian Karasick wrote:
> I'll put it more politely... With all due respect to Walt, the
> Enchanted Tiki Room, and the great Disney imagination of the past,
> being neither a Spielberg fan nor a frequent visitor to McDonalds,
> I haven't got a whole lot of respect for what its become.
>
> In one of the more arrogant forms of corporate markerting greed,
> Disney chose to "reissue" as "limited editions" classic Disney
> films only once every xx years both to theatres and to video (of
> course usually around key holidays and with convenient product
> launches attached). I think the strategy failed as most stores seem
> to have large stocks. But really, depriving kids of these classics to
> get higher sales, now that's worthy of respect! I won't even touch on
> the remakes...
After Walt's death things went awfully wrong... Walt would never ever have
allowed to serve food on paper plates with plastic forks in ... France!
MO*
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 11:06:28 +0000
From: Moritz R <Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian
delegate: approved!
MO*
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 11:06:58 +0000
From: Moritz R <Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply
Carl Russo wrote:
> First paragraph from a VILLAGE VOICE article entitled "Rats! That Corporate
> Rodent Descends Upon Central Park--Again" by Guy Trebay (July 14, 1998)
>
> "Does anyone else get the creeps from that sinister rodent? Or do people
> really still think of him as a jolly ambassador of all-American
> entertainment? Is it possible some folks are at least a tiny bit disturbed
> by the bland iconic presence masking a corporate empire that reams Third
> World workers, banalizes American culture, and operates theme parks
> constructed along the lines of totalitarian dream states? Or are we all too
> besotted watching Disney ratchet up the Dow to notice the ominous shadow of
> mouse ears darkening the land?"
While these interpretations must seem familiar to any intelligent soul that
ever encountered the Disney empire, the fascination of Disneyland remains. It
is not despite but because of this ambiguity of the glossy surface on one hand
and the law & orderdly, well... fascist, background of it on the other. You can
actually SEE how society works when watching this masterpiece dreamland of
manipulation "between the lines". An extremely interesting subject, that,
nonetheless, has very little or nothing to do with the "mission" of the Exotica
Mailing list. IS there a Disney list?
MO*
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:34:30 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley" <Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM>
Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
Is endless dicussion about the morality of, and experiences within thri=
ft
stores boring? Yes
Is continual discussion of Disney equally tedious? Yes
Would we all like to see the list return to the discussion of records? =
Yes
I just bought a couple of records (Werner Muller and Gordons War both
discussed only a few days ago) from Mark - a dealer of rareities in Bri=
xton
(south London). Last night on my way home, I turned on GLR where I hear=
d
some obscure rare groove. When the DJ turned to his guest, Lo and behol=
d it
was Mark, anorak supreme and accumulator of over =A31,000,000 worth of
records in his bedroom.
I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised because his photocopied list
which arrives on my front door every two weeks varies from =A315 to =A3=
300 for
records and regularly features descriptions such as: 'Obscure Greek fun=
k LP
with tight grooves and a touch of jazz - outstanding track 'Good Man' -=
=A3275.
And I thought I knew a bit about vinyl.....
Charlie
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 04:47:23 PDT
From: "Robert McKenna" <rmckenna@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re exotica suggestions
Nat wrote:-
>Well I don't take my mambo seriously - whatever that means - but I do
>prefer Cugat and Prado yes. I don't think they took it seriously
>either. I don't really know what serious mambo is. I think all these
>guys did "American-ized" commercial mambo records and didn't give a
>hoot about authenticity. And neither do I.
Without getting into Cuban politics (Please), Mambo is "American-ized"
that is the real mambo, exiles music, more New York and Florida than
Havana. The authenticity was embracing American tastes.
>Seguing from "if I were a rich man" to "hava nagila" is just another
>terribly clever juxtaposition of two tunes associated with Jews. I
>heard a similarly clever segueway from every Bar Mitzvah band working
>the circuit in the sixties. Clever medleys are for some reason, still
>at the bottom of the list for me.
Very good point. I agree with you, I was merely saying that Edmundo's
inappropriateness is what I like (also some backing vocal arrangements)
>>You may have lost your jazz purism but it seems you like your
>>exotica with a puritan flavour!
>Well okay, I know that's a flame but as a paid-up member of the
>anti-Edmondo army (a division of Self-Righteous Arbiters of Taste),
>I'm used to flames.
I apologise, that was certainly not intended as a flame.
>It's interesting to see someone use the words "exotica" and "puritan"
>in the same sentence.
CUT
>If wanting the excitement is puritanical, well I guess I'll have to
>give those puritans another look.
>How about another word? Joy.
I misconstrued your distaste for Edmundo, I thought it was over his
commercialism etc. which would, given the nature of this list be, I
think a mite strange. As I've said before it is the reclaiming of
discarded junk culture that is, for me one of the central joys of
exotica. Like in the Spanish film "Accion Mutante" where a gang of ugly
rebels break up a society wedding party shouting "you're all lobotomised
by beauty and coolness" we liberate the grievously unhip and appreciate
old pop culture. In such a situation being authentic is not an issue, as
Brian Eno said about soul, everybody's faking. And they are you know,
it's called art and it can be good or bad. I wouldn't suggest Ros is
better than Prado or Cugat, but he is worthy of a spin on the Technics.
>Edmondo's records only have one groove on each side.
OUch!
all the best
rob
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 07:28:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: (exotica) Rod Mckuen & the Record Industry
I just bumped into this in the letters section of Golmine magazine.
" Hippies are Beatniks
Your featured 5-Star Record in issue 464 (Goldmine, May 8, 1998)
was Rod Mckuen Takes a San Francisco Hippie Trip. This Everest
label featured in your article actually took Rod McKuen's Beatsville
(1959) which is found on the Hi-fi label, and changed the album title
and song titles in order to attract the 1967 hippie listeners. Songs
on the original Beatsville record include Co-existence Bagel Shop
Blues, Haik poems, and a Gallery of Assorted Beats. In other words
San Francisco Hippie Trip is Beatsville."
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:28:41 EDT
From: <DJJimmyBee@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
You hate finding beaten up records...I understand, but one of the most
pleasant surprises to me in collecting this genre is the amount of records in
excellent condition, nearly untouched, unlike 6T's and 7T's rock and soul
which inevitably is beaten un, especially in thrift shops...Jimmy/"Jimmy's
Easy" on WMBR-FM, Cambridge
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:30:29 EDT
From: <DJJimmyBee@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: More on Thrifts
I can't figure out why Emerson College, Boston didn't call one of the MASNY
excellent used record stores in their immediate area to come down and buy the
vinyl they threw out..Lack of communication from a Communications College
apparently
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:32:54 EDT
From: <DJJimmyBee@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) recommendations, Bert Kaempfert, integrity
Bert Kaempfert's songs really come alive when Wayne Newton sings them on the
old Capitol recordings: Danke Schoen, Wiedersein (sp?), Remember When,
others.......
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:09:56 -0600
From: Jill Mingo <mingo@cqm.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (exotica) List FAQ, version 1.1
>I just bought a couple of records (Werner Muller and Gordons War both
>discussed only a few days ago) from Mark - a dealer of rareities in Brixton
>(south London).=20
>I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised because his photocopied list
>which arrives on my front door every two weeks varies from =A315 to =A3300
>And I thought I knew a bit about vinyl.....
>
Most dealers should know about what they sell. I know Mark too and I think
he sells a few things a bit on the pricey side although his selection of
stuff is rather tasty. Just because a record sells for a lot of money
doesn't make it good. Although most good records that are hard to find
generally can sell for a lot of money. Or you can find 'em at a thrift=
store...
Jill "Mingo-go"
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:22:58 -0700
From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <davidson@serv.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply
At 10:12 AM 8/4/98 -0700, you wrote:
>
>>>>DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!! End of discussion.
The reason I agree that Disney sucks is the way the pull their movies out
of print reguarly. What's the reason why a video is released, only to stop
releasing it 18 months later, then wait seven more years only to release it
in the theatres, followed by another 18-month video release?
I'll tell you this much - it has nothing to do with Disney Corp's love for
kids. Walt would be ashamed.
Dave
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:32:45 +0200
From: "Basta Audio Visuals" <basta@xs4all.nl>
Subject: (exotica) Nathan van Cleave
Anyone knows where to find a picture or photo of Mr. Nathan van Cleave ?
Really need this for a new album coming up.
ASCAP doesn`t have it, nor do they give phonenumbers of relatives. I have
searched on the Net, but no pictures of him.
If anyone has a picture, please contact me at basta @ xs4all . nl
Thanks
Jeroen van der Schaaf
Basta Audio Visuals
www.basta.nl
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:38:24 -0400
From: Chris Cook <cook@pobox.upenn.edu>
Subject: (exotica) Bert Kaempfert, since you asked ...
It should be noted too, that Kaempfert was at least partially responsible
for penning the canonized -- if ultimately mediocre -- tunes "Danke Schoen"
(as already mentioned), "Wonderland by Night," "Spanish Eyes," and
"Strangers in the Night." BTW, ever notice how these four are really
essentially the same song?
Which, I think, points up why Kaempfert's stuff is oddly compelling to me
(you were *dying* to hear what I had to say, weren't you .... no?). To me,
Bert was such a skilled formulist (like Conniff & Alpert, who also share a
similar ill-repute), that he went about creating a sound that's so
distinctly his own that there's no mistaking a Kaempfert recording. And,
it's a sound that's uniquely evocative of a certain mid-Sixites suburban
experience. (That experience? Well, grocery shopping.)
Of course, he had those quirky perky tunes that were used so often for
"please stand by" stock on UHF channels (just like Alpert's stuff). I also
seem to recall them being used as theme songs for cheapo 3pm cartoon shows
I used to watch while sporting training pants & eating Graham crackers.
(There's also an Xmas tune used ... unless I'm mis-remembering ... pretty
often to sell Ronco crap on TV in the 70s. Same tune, I think, used in
Christmas with the Schmenges on SCTV.)
Now, the problem is (as has been pointed out here), that there's maybe a
small compilations-worth of these quirky tunes, and the rest of his stuff
is pretty shuffling and conventional. Distinctively Kaempfert, to be sure,
but your mind really can't help but wander while listening to this stuff.
Unless .... you're a bonehead like me & find even his duller tunes to be
interesting now & again.
There's a strange remoteness to this stuff that sometimes really sucks me
in. Kinda like the music just plods along on its own without anyone really
taking responsibility for it ... almost like the individual players are
doing their own thing & it adds up to an arrangement only by accident
(though, of course, it *is* meticulously arranged). The ka-chunk bass &
drop-kick drum are so regular and monotonous they almost sound mechanical.
Also, what I think of as the "stairwell" approach to music engineering ...
there's always this weird echo going on that makes it sound like the
recording took place in a fire tower in some high-rise. And, it's easy to
not notice unless you're trying to find them, there's often a chorus of
voices filling out the arrangement somewhere ... but you can't *really* be
sure those are human voices ...
In the end, though, even an oddball like me can only find this stuff
compelling for short bursts. And then I wake up 'cause the record needs to
be flipped.
This sorta reveals one of the problems I have sometime with the whole
exotica thing ... I wonder if anyone else battles this, too. Sometimes I
find myself rationalizing myself into "liking" something. (Like, "Well, it
has an organ & a piano & some vibes & plucky guitar. Playing "Night and
Day." Therefore it's groovy. Howcomes it really sux?") With this record
hunting obsession, so much of what we lug home ends up being disappointing,
that it can be easy to lose sight of the sounds we're looking for. Until,
that is, you put the needle onto the first track of a great new find, and
MAN-OH-MAN HOOO-BOY YES!!, you're reminded of what you makes you loony for
these sounds in the first place.
I guess I need to remind myself to just play the damn records & tap my damn
foot & don't try to think so much. Know-what-i'm-saying? Anyone?
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 98 12:56:49 Pacific Daylight Time
From: darren hutton <darren.hutton@gte.net>
Subject: (exotica) sorry......
Bert Kaempfert did not write Wonderland By Night. It was written by the team Gunter/Newmann, who wrote
the German and English lyrics as well.
Darren!
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 12:54:42 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <hagar@mindspring.net>
Subject: (exotica) Would Taylor Deems this necessary?
>The reason I agree that Disney sucks is the way the pull their movies out
>of print reguarly.
They also pull the "We're only making x number of these and then they are
gone!" hype. They did this with Fantasia and the deadline came and went
and it was STILL readily available long afterwards. I don't mind that it
was, however, tell the truth (wahwahwahwah Ooooo)
Brian Phillips
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:12:32 -0400
From: Chris Cook <cook@pobox.upenn.edu>
Subject: (exotica) sorry ...
>Bert Kaempfert did not write Wonderland By Night. It was written by the
>team >Gunter/Newmann, who wrote the German and English lyrics as well.
Oops! Mebbe I'm wrong about the others, too ... guess I'd been lulled once
too often by the Bert version of "Wonderland" & assumed it was his. :)
(Boy, I've thought that one to be true for so long ....)
Never a fact-checker shall I be,
- --chris cook
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:23:34 +0200
From: Johan Dada Vis <Quiet@village.uunet.be>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer
"keir keightley" <kkeightley@hotmail.com> wrote:
>_Antonio Carlos Jobim: Composer_ (Warner Archive Series). This
>contains 2 full LPs made for Warner Bros. in 1965-66, plus some
>tracks from an instrumental Jobim album _Love, Strings, and Jobim_.
>This stuff is not as smooth as _The Composer Plays_, but over time
>I've come to love the shaky roughness of Jobim's voice (and none of
>this is on the Verve box set).
Combines the original LP's "The wonderful world of Antonio Carlos
Jobim" (1965, arranged by Nelson Riddle) and "A certain Mr. Jobim" (1967,
arranged by Claus Ogerman), plus 2 tracks from "Love, strings and Jobim"
(1966), plus 4 previously unreleased tracks, recorded during the "A certain
Mr. Jobim" session. The legendary Brazilian composer performs his own
songs, singing on 19 of the 28 tracks (the others being instrumental).
Despite Jobim's pleasingly vulnerable voice, I think these are not really
the best versions around of his songs, as Riddle's and Ogerman's honey
strings smooth out that typical "tristesse" quality of the bossa nova, and
the English lyrics don't have that exotic touch of the Portuguese. This is
velvet bossa nova targeted to Sinatra fans. Tracks: "She's A Carioca",
"Agua De Beber", "Surfboard", "Useless Landscape", "So' Tinha De Ser Com
Voce", "A Felicidade", "Bonita", "Favela", "Valsa De Porto Das Caixas",
"Samba Do Aviao", "Por Toda A Mimha Vida", "Dindi", "Hurry Up And Love Me",
"Pardon My English", "Bonita", "Se Todos Fossem Iguais A Voce", "Off-Key",
"Photograph", "Surfboard", "Outra Vez", "I Was Just One More For You",
"Estrada Do Sol", "Don't Ever Go Away", "Zingaro", "Esperanca Perdida",
"Fotographia", "Por Causa De Voce", "Desafinado".
Johan
quiet@village.uunet.be
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:57:43 -1000
From: sfunk@pop.adn.com (Stephen Funk)
Subject: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach
This might be of interest to some...
Last night I picked up the CD "Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach". It's
on the DCC label and has just been issued on CD for the first time.
A little sticker on the cover says "COOL JAZZ".
Well, not really. More like semi-sedated lounge-pop.
Instrumental, of course, the group is Cal on vibes with much organ,
electric bass, guitar, backbeat drummer, and occasional appearances by
strings, reeds, and brass. Recorded in 1968.
There's a semi-"funky" version of "Say a Little Prayer", as well as a
somehow mysterious rendition of "Message to Michael". Other tunes include
"My Little Red Book", "What The World Needs Now" and "Walk On By".... all
the hits, 9 in all. Most are taken at EZ tempos. I would hesitate to call
any of it "swingin'" and hardly even "jazz". The drummer, in particular,
does little else but unobtrusively beat time.
This is pretty "cheezy", possibly thrown together very quickly, most songs
fade out, and playing time is short (about 30 minutes, but cheap at around
$10). But I love it, and it started growing on me almost immediately. I
played it again right after the first listen, which is about as good a
compliment as I can give.
Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling it's
not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could elaborate.
His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is anyone
else's, which is sort of the appeal.
Mr. Funk gives it a surprising score of 8 out of 10.
*** *** ***
Steve Funk
(sfunk@pop.adn.com)
Anchorage, AK
USA
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:01:31 EDT
From: <Rcbrooksod@aol.com>
Subject: (exotica) Question List - Please re-post
Can someone post the question list again so those interested in filling it out
can do so? The list without someone completing it already would be more
helpful.
Robert
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:06:52 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <nminer@jhmi.edu>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: beyond the valley of thrift stores -Reply
<<<Your heart can skip a beat or two when
you ask for the hell of it whether they have any records and moments later
you see one of them emerge with a "fresh" box of records.>>>
Geez - I LOVE this list !!!!!!! ;-)
- - Nate
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:07:02 +0200
From: "Arjan Plug" <ajplug@bart.nl>
Subject: (exotica) Gravelands
Anyone's heard this yet?
Arjan
GRAVELANDS by THE KING & THE QUESTIONAIRES
(BRILLIANT CD OF AN ELVIS IMITATOR COVERING CLASSIC SONGS BY DEAD
>
> 1.Come As You Are
> 2.Love Will Tear Use Apart
> 3.Working Class Hero
> 4.Whiskey In The Jar
> 5.Blockbuster
> 6.I Heard It Through The Grapevine
> 7.No Woman No Cry
> 8.All Or Nothing
> 9.20th Century Boy
> 10.Piece Of My Heart
> 11.Dock Of The Bay
> 12.Voodoo Chile
> 13.Riders On The Storm / The End
Apparently there will be German release out with some extra tracks like
"Song of the Siren"
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:13:17 EDT
From: <Rcbrooksod@aol.com>
Subject: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
In a message dated 98-08-05 05:07:20 EDT, M.O. writes:
<< Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Bavarian
delegate: approved! >>
Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern Exotica
Confederacy delegate: approved!
IMPORTANT NOTE: Delegate requires the record to show that disregard of input
or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will result in
the secession of said Confederacy from the list. And yes, Dixie is considered
exotica music by many.
Robert "E." Brooks
P.S. Ask me about my great cousin Preston some day.
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:16:42 -0400
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cal Tjader Sounds Out Burt Bacharach
> Remarkably, this is my first Cal Tjader album, and I have a feeling
it's
> not representative of his work in general...perhaps others could
elaborate.
> His playing is far from technically dazzling on this record, nor is
anyone
> else's, which is sort of the appeal.
Two current Tjader re-issue CDs that I think are mighty fine (both on
Verve)...
"Several Shades of Jade/Breeze From The East" - A two-on-one with
Tjader working with large ensembles. "Shades" was done in collaboration
with none other than Lalo Schifrin. "Breeze" in collaboration with Stan
Applebaum. Both date from 1963. For me, "Shades" is a much stronger
piece of work, with "Breeze" coming off a bit tinny in comparison, but
opinions can vary (and I think they have here), so don't mind mine.
According to the notes, Tjader was none too pleased with "Breeze"
himself.
"Soul Sauce" - Dates from 1964 and finds Tjader back in a small combo,
probably in reaction to "Breeze". This is more hard-core Latin-jazz.
Players include Lonnie Hewitt, Willie Bobo, Donald Byrd, Jimmy Heath,
Alberto Valdes, Armando Peraza, Grady Tate.
m.ace ecam@voicenet.com
OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:33:12 -0700
From: "Ron Grandia" <rgrandia@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
Say, RC....
Did you have a cousin by the name of Preston?
Pray tell us about him.
: >
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:44:53 -0400
From: Ross Orr <rotohut@ic.net>
Subject: (exotica) Another Cool Book
I had only looked at this briefly when I put it into the FAQ, but after
finally spending some time with this book, this is the shit!
Hawaiian Music and Musicians: An Illustrated History
George S. Kanahele, ed.
(1979, University Press of Hawaii)
ISBN 0-8248-0578-X
It's organized Encyclopedia-style, so it takes a bit of jumping around to
get the big picture--but I have been searching for a book like this for
YEARS. (Does anyone know if there's been anything published a bit more
recently?)
I've loved "Hawaiian" albums, both genuine and cheezoid, for a long time.
This book is just packed with the kind of background I always wanted, to
help sort out which is which--plus it has entries on all the better-known
"Hawaiian" hit songs, about key instruments like the 'ukulele and steel
guitar, and so on.
One reason Hawaiian music is fascinating to me is that the whole question
of "authenticity" is so totally muddled there--and according to this book
it's even stranger than I ever knew. "Traditional" Hawaiian music turns out
to be a total mongrel of Polynesian chant, Christian hymns, instruments
brought to the islands by foreign cowboys and sailors. . . Meanwhile,
Hawaii has been enthusiatically exporting its music and instuments for a
hundred years, with the result that credible "hawaiian" msuic has been
created in all corners of the globe--some of which returned home to become
part of the standard repertoire. It's wacky.
Basically, Hawaiian musicians have not been shy about adopting whatever
innovations from other musics they liked the sound of, yet somehow still
retaining a Hawaiian identity. Lets hear it for Hybrid Vigor!
Aloha,
--Ross
|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr <rotohut@ic.net>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
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Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:01:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <chuckmk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The floor recognized the delegate from Dixie . . . .
Has Elvis ever posted to this list?
- ---Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> << Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes:
Bavarian
> delegate: approved! >>
>
> Exotica legislation. Constitutional law reading 1.1. Votes: Southern
Exotica
> Confederacy delegate: approved!
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE: Delegate requires the record to show that disregard
of input
> or lack of recognition from the Southern Exotica Confederacy will
result in
> the secession of said Confederacy from the list. And yes, Dixie is
considered
> exotica music by many.
Robert "E." Brooks
> P.S. Ask me about my great cousin Preston some day.
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 12:09:05 -0700
From: Jack Diamond <jack@jackdiamond.com>
Subject: (exotica) Planet of the Apes CD
Attention:
New CD Reissue just added:
Original Soundtrack:
Jerry Goldsmith; Planet of the Apes - $8 plus shipping
Originally released in 1968 on Project 3 Total Sound Stereo
Sharp jagged brassy musical figures within an AMAZING ORCHESTRA with
Unbe-lieve-a-ble arrangements, serious spookiness with OMINOUS AMOUNTS of
wild and weird Percussion with Reverb and Echo all throughout the entire
score.
EXTREMELY JUNGLE JAZZ-ESQUE. Tribal Voodoo Pounding!!!
Extremely Dramatic and Incredible, all KILLER...from beginning to end,
I shit you not
A masterpiece soundtrack by the man that also brought us In Like Flint, Our
Man Flint, Man from UNCLE, Sebastian, music for the TV version of The
Twilight Zone
et al...
It is EXTREMELY EXOTIC for All Hours and Moods of the Day or Night.
Really tremendous soundtrack with 1 title Previously unreleased*
Titles; Main Title. The Revelation, The Clothes Snatchers, *The Hunt, New
Identity, The Forbidden Zone, The Search, The Cave, A Bid For Freedom, A
New Mate, No Escape.
Haven't seen the vinyl FOR YEARS...This is the motherload for only 8 bucks.
Christmas is closer than you think and I have a few copies soooooooooooo;)
$8 plus shipping
Thank you all once again
Jack
"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD!
Http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm
Http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/
Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA)
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Sundays 10AM-1PM
Http://www.KFJC.org
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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 15:57:07 -0400
From: "Nathan Miner" <nminer@jhmi.edu>
Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation -Sucks Reply -Reply
>>> <Rcbrooksod@aol.com> 08/04/98 12:10pm >>>
In a message dated 98-08-04 11:19:10 EDT, Nat wrote:
<< DISNEY SUCKS !!!!!!
=20
End of discussion.
>>
and like he would just throw one of those Tiki Room ablums in the shit can =
if
one came across his desk???>>>
I already passed this album up for .50 so there!!
And, there's a Nat on this list, so let's get the flaming to the right =
person - I'm Nate.
- - Nate (not Nat)
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