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exotica-digest         Monday, August 3 1998         Volume 02 : Number 176



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed
(exotica) Salvation Army Shops
(exotica) Record bargain locations/Kaempfert
(exotica) Tiki Room LP +
(exotica) Humming & other noises
(exotica) Tiki Room LP
Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)
(exotica) Fantastic Plastic Machine
(exotica) Saving Jessica
(exotica) Re: tiki room and
(exotica) DMQ Thursday Night at the Showbox
(exotica) FAQ progress
Re: (exotica) FAQ progress
Re: (exotica) Shari Lewis obit
(exotica) Disney Equation
(exotica) Ethel Smith finds
Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed
(exotica) Disney Music URL and Search Engine
(exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con
(exotica) A Lyman Oddity
(exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD
Re: (exotica) Disney Equation
(exotica) Exotica Summit adjustment
Re: (exotica) Question About A Song
(exotica) Thrift confession
(exotica) Thrift store conspiracy
Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts
(exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con
Re: (exotica) Twisted
(exotica) Re: A Lyman Oddity
Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 20:59:43 +0100
From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed

>At 01:04 AM 03/08/98 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>>I was wondering if I could get recommendations of albums to look for by the
>>following:
>>
>>Bert Kaempfurt

A bit of trivia for you about the late Bert K.  As an A&R man for Polydor
in the
very early 60's, he worked on the first Beatles records prior to them
signing for
Parlophone (USA-Capitol) and hitting the big time.  'A swinging safari' is
pretty good, although the cover picture in which the jungle is represented by
a potted plant is distinctly silly.

Paul Desmond, delicate sax player for Dave Brubeck, is also long departed from
this earth.  As for George Shearing's racy album covers, this might have
been more
a marketing man's decision, rather than the blind pianist himself.


HP


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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 20:59:45 +0100
From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Salvation Army Shops

There have been some interesting thoughts set down
here this last week about the possibility of receiving
some serious evangelism while thrifting at Salvation
Army shops....evangelism to the point of pressing one
from one's normal way of life into the service of the
church, never to be seen again...

Thinks:
- - Jessica used to go to thrifts a lot
- - Jessica has vanished from these pages
Can this mean....?  Oh no,  oh no, no, no.....   (sob).

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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 17:14:19 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Jonathan M Perl)
Subject: (exotica) Record bargain locations/Kaempfert

Sometimes record bargains appear where you wouldn't expect to find
records.  On Friday, A friend dragged me downstairs to the $5 bargain
cellar in some vintage clothing store.  I was surprised to see 5 boxes of
records.  Picked up a few nice things for a buck.

The best one was '101 strings play the trendsetters of the 60s'.  It
looks great (cartoon drawings of the beatles, killer joe from the
discotheque albums etc) and is great.  In particular, the version of
'hard days night' rocks.

On the subject of Bert Kaempfert, for some reason I never found a
european polydor album which I liked.  Swingin' safari was probably the
best one, but even that seemed a bit weedy.  By contrast, the US decca
LPs I've bought have a better, meatier sound.  'Afrikaan beat' and 'love
that...' come to mind.

regards
Jonny

regards

Jonny

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:57:39 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Room LP +

> >BTW: What's on the LP exactly?

Jill:

> What is on your friends tape is what is on the LP. It has a colour book=
let
> and the Jungle Cruise ride is on the other side. It is a word for word
> script including all songs from the Tiki Room experience. I know a lot =
of
> folks who want this, but I felt pretty good about finding my copy in ve=
ry
> good-excellent shape for $1 at (surprise, surprise!) a THRIFT STORE in
> Miami. Usually children's LPs are totally destroyed, but this one sound=
s
> pretty rockin. The track with the cool drums in the "Hawaiian War Chant=
" by
> the tiki gods. It is well scary. A fave of mine to play out.

Does it also have the voices of the vulcano gods etc. from the waiting ar=
ea?
You should bring it anyway, since you might want to play it. Didn't you s=
ay
you will be DJing? When and where? BTW: One date on the PopKomm is def
already: Friday evening we should meet at the Gloria for Sushi 4004, with
Yasuharu Konishi of Pizzicato and others. On Saturday it's the Apollo fea=
t.
Schlammpeiziger (a young electronician who works in the footsteps of such
D=FCsseldorf veterans as Harmonia, Michael Rother or Riechmann, really cu=
te) and
Dorau playing one (!) song.
What else? On Thursday I see Steve Silk Hurley at the Neptunbad... I migh=
t
want to see that. And on sunday I'll be glad to drive back to my quiet li=
ttle
hometown Munich...

MO*



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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:57:54 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Humming & other noises

> << What caught me by surprise was that
>  there was a distinct barking in the background throughout the entire tape
>  -- I kid you not!  I presume that Jesse the Dalamation's barking was strong
>  enough to vibrate the phono needle and record it to tape >>
>
> i remember yelling at a phono needle when i was a kid and you could sorta hear
> something on the tape i was recording.

Somebody mentioned this record that was obviously homemade and you can hear a lot
of background noises and at one point you can actually hear his wife saying "Oh,
are you recording?" I loved that story. Who was that again? I think I read it
somewhere in "Incredible strange music"...

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:58:10 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Room LP

Jill Mingo wrote:

> Mo,
>
> It is the exact soundtrack to the Tiki Room experience. All the songs, the
> words - everything. It comes with a booklet. I have it. Mine isn't very
> crackly either. I can bring it to PopKomm if you are desperate to see it,
> but there is not much chance of me selling it unless someone offered me
> something I couldn't resist...

At least I have the "It's a small world" LP.

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:58:25 +0000
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift shopping (and question)

> >A) I really don't understand this shame of buying in a thrift shop: The
> >more you buy there the better the shop runs and the better for those
> >who deserve shopping there. No???
>
> Someone deserves to shop there? Just kidding. Again. I was doing my
> goatee'd flaneur thing. I'm like a kid in a staph infested candystore
> when I'm in a thrift shop.
>
Scheisse! Wrong word. What I wanted to say was "...depend on
shopping...". Mercy!

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 15:04:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fantastic Plastic Machine

I just purchased Fantastic Plastic Machine by the Fantastic Plastic
Machine released this year on Bungalow records out of Germany.  It was
originally released last year in Japan and will be released later this
year on Emperor Norton Records in the USA.

The music is full of great easy melodies, with male & female vocals
and some instrumentals.  The sound is like the Gentle People with a
dance beat or P5 in their easier moments.

I purchased the cd from Tom at Other Music :
http://www.interactive.net/~tomc
or [phone]
I know Tom at Other Music sells exotica to purchasers from around the
world  by email and phone.

The main mover behind  the Fantastic Plastic Machine is Tomoyuki
Tanaka one cool exoticat from looking at his picture.  I understand
that he has an enormous record coleetion and draws his inspiration for
this cool music from a variety of musical styles.

Record collecting has been partly reponsible for lots of bands
forming, for example Brian Jones & Mick & Kieth Richards got together
because they liked each others records before forming the Rolling
Sones.  I believe records also caused John & Paul to start hanging out
together.

Easy Listening in the Big Easy,
Chuck

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 18:00:22 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Saving Jessica

In a message dated 98-08-03 16:04:01 EDT, you write:

<< Thinks:
 - Jessica used to go to thrifts a lot
 - Jessica has vanished from these pages
 Can this mean....?  Oh no,  oh no, no, no.....   (sob).
  >>

I think a big stack of records (that she has been "finding") these last few
years fell on her.  At least she went with a smile on her face.

Of course, now on the Emergency Technician Mailing List some bastard is
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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 15:14:48 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: tiki room and

>From: <[e-mail]>
>Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:07:25 EDT
>To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>Subject: tiki room and "music to mow by"
>
>In a message dated 98-08-03 11:07:40 EDT, you write:
>
><< More on this when I pick the lp up from my friend's place. My
favorite
> track is the one on which the tikis come to life to chant and pound
the
> drums. Neat booklet inside, too. >>
>
>i think one of the songs that they chant to is the Hawaiian War Chant.

Yes! That is the song (I gotta get my new turnable operational this
weekend).

also,
>i love when the spanish parrot says "It cjoe time" and the lyrics later
say
>"where the birds know the words and the flowers croon . . .in the tiki,
tiki,
>tiki, tiki, tiki room".

Yes! This one had us laughing pretty hard ... I also love all the dopey
puns the narrator delivers during the course of the jungle cruise (which
seems to move from the Amazon to Malaysia to the Congo and back to chez
tiki in the course of 20 minutes, if I recall correctly).

>this is gunna sound crazy but i listen to my CD's/cassettes while
cutting my
>grass on a riding lawn mower.  my disney world cd

Is the one Byron had mentioned - only a few tiki room tracks?
is one of my favorite CD's
>to "mow by"

That sounds like a great name for my next comp. tape "Music to Tidy up
the Yard By."

Best,

Ben

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:36:37 -0800
From: "paul m." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) DMQ Thursday Night at the Showbox

>Once in a mortal's lifetime, an event comes along so stupendous, so
>spectacular, so life-affirming that mere words fail to describe its
>magnitude.  Well, while you're waiting for that event, please come see our
>next show, which is a dandy!
>
>THURSDAY, AUGUST 6TH
>THE SHOWBOX
>The pop-lounge magic that is THE DUDLEY MANLOVE QUARTET
>The exotic Latino heartbeat of Portland's PINK MARTINI
>The boss Mambo stylings of THE MAMBO NINE RADIO ORCHESTRA (featuring Craig
>and Steve of DMQ)
>
>Tickets are $8 at the door, and can be purchased in advance through
>Ticketmaster or at the Showbox.
>Doors open at 9pm.
>
>*****************
>
>Thanks to all of you who entered our DMQ Karaoke Quiz contest.  Five
>lyrical geniuses were able to name all 40 songs and their respective
>artists.  Sadly, there can only be one winner, so we at DMQ, through a
>complicated process involving calculus, Jungian philosophy, and a heated
>Rock'em Sock'em Robots tournament, have picked a winner:
>ANGELA KEENE!
>
>Angela has won two free passes to the Thursday, August 6th show at the
>Showbox. Congrats, Angela!
>The other 4 who aced our quiz:  Janelle Cross, Heather Dolan, Tyler Miller
>and Matt Balint.  Way to go!
>
>*****************
>
>DMQ is proud to announce the grand opening of CLUB DUDLEY -- the swankiest
>hotspot on the Internet strip.  No cover charge, no drink minimum, no
>dress code.  Yes indeed, thanks to the computer wizardry of Craig Corvin
>and Steve Okimoto, and the graphical genius of Dave Jolosky, our fair
>website has received a major makeover.  Some of the fine new features in
>Club Dudley:
>* The Bar -- come in, have a drink, and chat with other DMQ fans (maybe
>even members of DMQ themselves)
>* The Backstage -- you have an all-access pass, so use it!  Check out
>photos of DMQ at work and play, fun facts about the band, and other juicy
>tidbits regarding the world's foremost six-man quartet.
>Plus, all the regular features:  a weekly calendar of shows, booking
>information, the DMQ Top 40, and more, much more!
>
>Same catchy URL as before:  http://www.dudleymanlove.com
>

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 21:39:00 -0400
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FAQ progress

> [Disney] would rather close the attraction, if Walt hadn't
>decreed in his last will that Tiki Room must never be shut down

Good Thinking, Walt! After they thaw him out, what better way to ease back
into things than with a Mai Tai and a polynesian floor show?



OK, the FAQ continues to percolate along behind the scenes; I'll post the
compete version within a day or two for your further comments. But so far:

I've revised the language of a few sections where people had specific
objections; I think answering people's comments without totally reversing
what I had said. . .

I tend to agree that other people are already doing a better job than I
could, keeping URL lists up-to-date. So I will probably limit it to some
essentials (like Brad's Space Age Pop site) and then link to other people's
pages of links.

I have culled some book recommendeations out of my saved digests, but feel
a little funny just parroting book titles I've never heard of. I'd be
grateful if anyone cares to send me the (exact) titles of the books they
find most useful.

Only a couple of people sent me "top ten artist" lists. So instead I
cobbled together a very loose list of "what kinds of records might a
beginner look out for?", which mentions artists, labels, and particular
genres. I apologize that the current list it pretty biased towards my own
collection (HiFi, percussion, Latin); I encourage people who are stronger
on soundtracks, the 60s, "Now Sound," etc. to please send  additions. Here
it is:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Q: If someone were just beginning to search for exotica records, what would
be some good things to look out for?

A: Though such a list is bound to be incomplete and disputable, here are
some suggestions:

  * Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman LPs

  * Juan Garcia Esquivel LPs (rare today)

  * Glossy albums (often gatefold) on "Hi-Fi" labels like Command,
    Phase Four, Mercury "Perfect Presence," Time, Audio Fidelity,
    Directional Sound, etc.

  * Albums with "Percussion" in the title

  * Latin music as performed by American or European studio musicians

  * RCA's "Stereo Action" Series (thick, white, die-cut covers)

  * Early Ferrante and Teicher (with prepared piano)

  * The Three Suns RCA "Living Stereo" LPs

  * Electric organ virtuosos (Lenny Dee, Dick Hyman, etc.)

  * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord or harp

  * Inappropriate cover versions ("Light My Fire" on pipe organ, etc.)

  * Hawaiian music as performed by non-Hawaiians

  * Albums showcasing moog synthesizer

  * "Now Sound" LPs (Brass Ring, etc.)

  * Albums with "discotheque" or "au go-go" in the title

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yours in HiFi,

 --Ross

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 21:44:27 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) FAQ progress

In a message dated 8/3/98 9:40:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> * Pop instrumentals featuring harpsichord or harp
I would add *or sitar*.

You're doing a great job with the FAQ.
Thanks.

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 17:54:04 +0000
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Shari Lewis obit

At 02:07 PM 8/3/98 -0500, Lou wrote:
>    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Puppeteer Shari Lewis, the children's entertainer who
>charmed youngsters for decades with furry sidekicks Lamb Chop, Charlie Horse
>and Hush Puppy, died of cancer, her publicist said today. She was 65.

Lou, Thanks for tossing that in!

One of the best parts of The Mr. Smooth Show Christmas program last year was
a little thing she did on, I believe, a Columbia LP. Such fun! I was always
amazed how fresh and vital her material was and how active she stayed doing
what she did so well.

When people say how bad the media has become (too liberal, too
conservative, too commercial, too radical, too violent):  I bring up people
such as Shari Lewis and broadcast outlets that made her performances
possible.  There continues to be good, fun stuff on radio and TV, but only
thanks to the inspiration of people like Shari Lewis.

Byron

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:02:36 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Disney Equation

In a message dated 98-08-02 23:15:49 EDT, you write:

<< Disney seems to be on a program of reissuing
 everything it ever did again and again.  >>

This has always been the marvelous (or dubious -- you take your pick) thing
about the Disney machine.  About every 7 years they have a new audience to
target and that audience will (hopefully by the stockholders bets) stay with
them for life.  To them Bambi, Pinnochio, etc. are "new".

Disney never really creates a new formula to attract un-targeted audiences.
It just waits for the new audience to be born, learn to speak and say
"Mickey".

I find it interesting that the Disney "backlash" has only happened in the last
4 or 5 years.  Before that no one ever said anything bad about Disney.

There was a book (that hopefully someone out there knows the title of) which
described the dubious Disney formula.

Interesting note:  the excerpts I have read are usually in business/stock
publications telling others how to make the formula work for them.

Ironic note:  I went to Disney World about a year ago, spent and ass load of
money and can't wait until my son (age 1) is old enough to go.

Damn -- that formula really works.

Candidly,

Robert


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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 98 22:22:35 -0500
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ethel Smith finds

A timely request for Ethel Smith information.

I just picked up three more or her LPs making my total of her records 15!
And I'm still missing 5.

The comparisons to Dee are not off the mark since they both made regular
apperances on television and evidently both had a sort of organ-comic
routine.

Their playing styles are quite different. Where Dee's playing can be more
wacky many of Smith's arrangements and song selections are stronger.

Latin rhythms were Ethel Smith's forte and I would recommend her albums
"Dance to the Latin Rhythms of..", "Latin In Manhattan", and the
Cha-Cha-Cha album all on Decca.

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 98 22:22:37 -0500
From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Recommendations needed

 I concur with  most responses that the Swinging Safari album is probably
the one to get for old Bert, but I have similar feelings to Nat:

>A guy like Bert Kaempfert, you certainly can't say "Oh he's crap!" because
>he isn't crap.  He's a talented arranger and musician blah blah blah.  But
>if there is a really extraordinary B.K. record that's actually worth going
>out of your way to find, I'll be pleasantly surprised to hear about it.

I think the key word here is 'extraordinary'. I agree that Bert's
arrangement never quite get beyond ordinary but, at the same time albums
such as the aforementioned Swinging Safari are hardly saccharine. They
can be fun just not 'extra-ordinarily' so.It could be that it's an
acquired taste, so to speak. For instance after listening to all the
zany, bombastic, extreme arrangements of the much spoke of exotica canon
a subtle Kaempfert touch just may hit the spot.

So in short, in my four tier Vinyl Recliner ratings of Essential/Highly
Recommended/Very Good/Good I would rank Swinging Safari as a very good.

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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:27:40 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Disney Music URL and Search Engine

Here is an "official" (whatever that means) Disney music site where CD's can
be ordered:

http://www.iaw.on.ca/~wschwart/disney/albums/154.htm

the URL above has the CD I have but you can work back to their HOME to run
search engines, etc.

My engine for song titles with the work "tiki" in them gave 14 hits meaning
there are 14 albums that have the tiki room show song.  I have not checked
them all out but will post back to the list with any I think notable.

Robert


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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:38:49 -0400
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con

I specifically wanted a "Thrift Wars" entry in the FAQ because it's one of
those threads that can go around and around for months, with one side never
convincing the other. It really does all depend on where you live and what
your time is worth.

I'm sorry some people find the environment of thrifts depressing; it's
never particularly bothered me. But regarding this undercurrent of "those
stores aren't for people like me, they are for sad little people who really
need them," I must protest.

First, I'm sure if you asked, the management of these places would say
they're quite happy to have anyone come in and buy things--because that is
their source of income, to continue whatever charitable work they're
supposedly doing.

When a record gets donated to a thrift store, someone has decided it has
ZERO value, and given it away. At this point, it is either going to get
sold to someone who attaches a higher value to it, or it will end up in the
trash. Isn't it preferable that the record ends up with someone who
appreciates it?

If I buy a Three Suns record at a thrift store, I simply refuse to believe
that I'm taking something of value away from a more deserving person.

When "actual poor people" shop at a thrift, their motives are completely
different from mine: They are attempting to buy into a plausible modern,
middle-class lifestyle, within the limits of their budget. Meanwhile, *I*
am trying to buy things that have gone so completely out of style that they
have bottomed out, and perhaps are on the upswing of coolness again. (This
is basic "Rubbish Theory," as defined by British anthropologist Michael
Thompson.) So there is really not much overlap to the kinds of things we
are looking for.

This is all discussed rather thoroughly in Al Hoff's _Thrift Score_ book.

So--leaving aside all questions of time, grunginess, etc.--I say, Thrift Ho!


reaching for those moist towelettes,

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:10:39 -0400
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A Lyman Oddity

Jeez after all these boring posts I figure I should make some feeble
attempt to say something about RECORDS. . .

I recently came across a weird version of Arthur Lyman's _Yellow Bird_ LP.
HiFi Records had renamed it _Percussion Spectacular!_ (using the original
Lava photo and type style); they turned it into a gatefold too. The inner
jacket faces had this huge tweako blurb about all the equipment used, with
eleven(!) closeups of cutting lathes and so on. It even listed the prices
for all the equipment!

As far as I can tell, the vinyl itself is identical to _Yellow Bird_ (same
catalog number too). So, do you Lyman fans know, was this just a brief
attempt to cash in on the "Persuasive Percussion" fad? It all seemed a
little desperate to me. . .

Cheers,

 --Ross

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Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 23:11:01 -0400
From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Antonio Carlos Jobim CD

I just saw a 3-CD set of of Jobim's work, on Verve - it appears to be a
tribute to him, with all sorts of different artists covering his
material.  The packaging looked incredible, but it was sealed, and there
are no track or artist listings on the outside - just a few names and
titles.  Does anyone know anything about this set, and is is worthwhile?
Or is it Jobim overkill?

cheryl


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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:36:39 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disney Equation

> I find it interesting that the Disney "backlash" has only happened in
the last
> 4 or 5 years.  Before that no one ever said anything bad about
Disney.

Not so. Ron Goulart's book, "The Assault On Childhood", with its long
and interesting chapter on the Disney machine was published around the
late 60s or early 70s. And it includes earlier quotes from others --
Disney skepticism is nothing new. Of course the Disney cross-marketing
push was already established in the 30s, so that's nothing new either.

Not that *I'm* saying anything bad about them, heh. After all, they are
ranked as one of the most litigious corporations in the world.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:52:07 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Summit adjustment

A last minute adjustment to the earlier (last week) message I sent regarding a
meeting at The Tonga Room in San Francisco

Otto & Alan of Tiki News & Lift Off Productions, respectively, are holding
monthly meeting the first Wednesday of each month from 6 - 8 pm at the Tonga
Room in the Fairmont Hotel at Powell and Mason atop Nob Hill, SF
At these meetings we will discuss future surf/Lounge/Exotica shows that we
will be throwing and we will be looking for assistants/volunteers, bands,
entertainers who wish to participate.
(Alan also does a radio show on KALX)

EXCEPT this Wednesday's meeting (Aug 5) will be cut short due to the just
announced grand opening of the Bamboo Hut.  The Tonga Room meeting will be
from 6 sharp til 7 pm and then we will all head over to the Bamboo Hut (next
to the HiBall on Broadway near Kearny) Otto will be djing at the Bamboo Hut
from 8-12 mid.

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:16:01 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Question About A Song

In a message dated 98-08-03 15:32:09 EDT, you write:

<<  "She's Homeless" as covered by Montefiori
 Cocktail? >>

 La dee dee, la dee dah

- - Michele


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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:16:00 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thrift confession

In a message dated 98-08-03 14:19:59 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< I hate to say it but Brian is on the mark on that one.  It is
 interesting/humbling/whatever to see some of these people that lead such a
 meager existence. >>

Okay, I have to admit that one day about 3 months ago, I went thrifting all
day.

Ha!  but it wasn't for records, it was for cheesy Hawaiian shirts for a luau
party for my work.  I told the people at work, that I thought I could find
some of those old 1970s era shirts in San Bernardino (a city about 90 miles
east of Los Angeles) where I was going for a conference.  So I went to about
10 thrift stores in a 5-hour period and you are right.  Lots of very poor
people, very sad and the experience cast a dark cloud over the entire day.

I only found 2 shirts that were usable BTW.  Most of the cool Hawaiian shirt
are gone even from San Bernardino thrift stores.  Gotta go to vintage shops
and pay real money for them nowadays.

- - Michele


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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:15:26 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thrift store conspiracy

In a message dated 98-08-03 01:18:54 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< It's an American
 chain of 125 stores and what's that, they deal in "collectibles"?  We click
on the records icon on the site and what do we see but a photo of "Music to
read James Bond By" followed by a bid list for collectors vinyl (with
minimums!) and instructing you to make your  deal with the manager of the
store in question!!! ..... I'm beginning to see a pattern that's  really
starting to make me sick. >>

Ha!  See I was right!  That's why there isn't anything except Olivia Newton
John albums in thrifts.  All the good stuff is being wisked away to a bidding
site on the internet!  If the rest of the chains catch on, thrifting days are
numbered....

- - Michele


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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:16:02 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts

In a message dated 98-08-03 15:33:23 EDT, [e-mail] writes:

<< You just said a mouthful, matey.... Finding a killer record beat to pieces
 can affect me for days. It happens more than I would care to admit.
  >>

Okay, please explain why this is painful.  I mean, if I see a record that I
wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked that
record because they played it to death.  Then I think, oh well, better luck
next time.

- - Michele


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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 00:25:26 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Thrifting: Pro or Con

A few random notes on thrifts.

I can imagine that thrift stores may have several, sometimes
conflicting, objectives.  On one hand, they supply a steady supply of
low cost, used goods to a low-income population.  On the other hand,
they raise money, by selling these products, which can then be
re-distributed to other aspects of their charity.

Thrifts are thus in this constant battle of "Do we price it so low that
the people who really need it can afford it" versus "we need to price
this high enough so any profit goes to our charity and not to some
outside antique dealer type person."

Obviously the record dealers know that thrifts can provide a steady
supply of 'potential profit.'  The thrifts also know this, but most do
not have the expertise to price records accordingly.

I am curious though, do the members of this list who buy records from
the thrifts buy only records?  or do they look around in the store for
other cool and interesting things that they might find?

I do see record dealers in the thrifts....they come in, zero on the
records, and then they usually leave.  With me, I'm also usually going
to the book section, the painting section, the knick-knack section, the
toy section, etc, etc...  I think someone like me will tend to have a
more favorable view of thrifts and what they can provide versus the
people who are only looking for one item.

By the way, I finally thrifted a copy of Kraftwerk's 'Trans-Europe
Express' LP.....the cover was ripped to shreds and bypassed by the
collectors, but the disc is in OK shape.

Vern


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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:41:14 EDT
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Twisted

"Twisted" originally a jazz instro by Wardell Gray (LA Central Ave. Scene).
The song is based on his bebop solo....


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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 23:45:35 -0500 (CDT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: A Lyman Oddity

my assumption was that the original title (and gatefold) was "Percussion
Spectacular!" and after he had a hit with "Yellow Bird" they changed the LP
title to reflect the single's popularity.  i could be wrong.

 -kk

>I recently came across a weird version of Arthur Lyman's _Yellow Bird_ LP.
>HiFi Records had renamed it _Percussion Spectacular!_ (using the original
>Lava photo and type style); they turned it into a gatefold too.

>As far as I can tell, the vinyl itself is identical to _Yellow Bird_ (same
>catalog number too). So, do you Lyman fans know, was this just a brief
>attempt to cash in on the "Persuasive Percussion" fad? It all seemed a
>little desperate to me. . .




visit...

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          King Kini's  C L U B  V E L V E T
             http://www.tamboo.com
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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 01:23:10 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Thrifts

At 12:16 AM -0400 8/4/98, <[e-mail]> wrote:

>Okay, please explain why this is painful.  I mean, if I see a record that I
>wanted and it was really beat, I'd just think, oh, someone really liked that
>record because they played it to death.  Then I think, oh well, better luck
>next time.

Then I think........I hope that they're dead; if not, I might just have to
go kill them.

anguished much to often to be nice,
br cleve

p.s. on a slightly related note, I just heard that Emerson College (Boston,
MA) today threw their entire vinyl record collection (around 40 years worth
of records) into a dumpster, as part of their effort to 'modernize' their
radio station [WERS-FM, the studio of which is being rebuilt].
#!^$@*&!!!!!!!!!!




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