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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 18:19:53 -0400
From: Ross Orr <rotohut@ic.net>
Subject: (exotica) FAQ Feedback
I apologize to all that the quote marks in the FAQ turned into cryptic
codes--I'll fix that. (Darned curly quotes, you know.)
>Who is Gene Rains?
The Underdog of Exotica! He had three releases on Decca, very much in the
same style as Denny and Lyman, but never managed to get the same
recognition as those two. (The titles were _Far Across the Sea_, _Lotus
Land_, and _Rains in the Tropics_.) I recall Clark posting a little bit
about him some months ago. . .
>obviously awful??? You're playing with your life...
The (garbled) quote marks were to suggest that what is "obvious" so some is
not at all obvious to others. In the US, where the Baby Boom generation
dominates the media, it is still considered somewhat abberant to enjoy this
music. Just last week, my 50-year old brother-in-law squirmed and fled when
I played one of my compilation tapes. However it should be noted that my
nieces (ages 6-13) all immediately liked it.
>> People on a budget or with more casual needs generally do fine washing
>> records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge.
>
>I would never do this to my records.
After paying serious dealer prices for some records, I can easily
understand that you would hesitate to do this--and for people in this
situation the peace of mind of using the Nitty Gritty et al is worth the
price. However I have washed hundreds of thriftstore LPs with dish soap and
lukewarm tap water. The reduction in skips and crackles is often dramatic,
and the only downside is that occasionally a label (usually on budget
records) will bleed or pucker slightly.
Anyone have any other FAQ additions to suggest?
--Ross
|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr <rotohut@ic.net>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:05:53 EDT
From: <RLott@aol.com>
Subject: (exotica) Bacharach & Costello
From Billboard's web site. Here's hoping this album doesn't get delayed any
longer...
>>>Meanwhile, Billboard U.K. correspondent Paul Sexton reports that Elvis
Costello's still-untitled 12-song collaboration album with Burt Bacharach is
set for release in the U.S. on Sept. 29. The album, due a day earlier
internationally, will be the first release under Costello's multi-label pact
with Mercury, PolyGram Classics, and PolyGram Jazz.<<<
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:27:06 -0500
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) Tal Farlow obit
NEW YORK (AP) -- Talmage Holt Farlow, a jazz guitarist who favored the
clubs of the New Jersey shore after making his name as an early bebopper,
died Saturday of esophageal cancer. He was 77.
Just two months earlier, he was inducted into the American Jazz Hall of Fame.
In 1949, Farlow played with clarinetist Buddy DeFranco and Red Norvo's
trio, which had Charlie Mingus on bass. But Farlow gained fame in the 1950s
as a player in Artie Shaw's Gramercy Five.
Farlow later led his own band and recorded albums for Blue Note and Verve
Records, before ``retiring'' in 1958 to Sea Bright, N.J.
Farlow and bass player Gary Mazzaroppi played together for 23 years,
gracing the stage at small Jersey Shore bars like the Yankee Clipper in Sea
Girt.
A Tal Farlow signature model Gibson Guitar was issued in 1962. Gibson
produced a new model, built with Farlow's input and advice, in 1994.
Farlow resurfaced on the national and international jazz scene in the
mid-1970s, touring and recording for Fantasy Records and Concord Records.
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 19:36:47 -0500
From: Lou Smith <lousmith@pipeline.com>
Subject: (exotica) FAQ Feedback
At 06:19 PM 7/28/98 -0400, Ross wrote:
>Anyone have any other FAQ additions to suggest?
I think you've done a great first iteration for an Exoti-FAQ -- thanx!
How about digging out that Exotica bookshelf thread from a few months ago
for inclusion?
That would provide a list of recommended books, magazines and 'zines.
That list, plus a list of key URLs, would augment the FAQ by giving folks a
direction for further in-depth research.
- -Lou
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 98 20:20:30 -0500
From: recliner <recliner@ime.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots
>
>Boy, I welcome the party crashers! The more the merrier, I say! I disdain
>esoteric elitism, and I for one am happy when folks actually appreciate
>and discover stuff that's cool and worthwhile.
I think the whole point of distain for 'party crashers' is that they
DON'T "actually appreciate and discover stuff that's cool and worthwhile."
There here for the party, and when the party's over they're on to the
next one.
I do agree with your other points.
Frank
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 98 20:20:32 -0500
From: recliner <recliner@ime.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
>Q: Do people really LIKE this "obviously" awful music?
I see I'm not the only person with a problem with this question....
Perhaps it could be rephrased "Why do many people NOT like this music?"
Or maybe just do away with such a negative question, and find some other
way to address this topic. If someone is interested enough to check out
an Exotica FAQ one would hope that they are not as clueless as someone
who whold ask such a question.
I like the idea of a FAQ and admire Ross' efforts. I thought the answer
to "What is Exotica?" was clear and concise.
As a long term listener but relativly new to the list I find it somewhat
inhibiting not knowing past discussions. Yes, I know about the archives
and I've tried reading these to 'catch up' on past topics but it's pretty
time consuming. Perhaps someone could take on the daunting task of
indexing the archives which would in itself be a kind of FAQ.
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:35:58 -0400
From: cheryl <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Gert Wilden
Charles Moseley wrote:
>
> I just happened across a C Brull Ltd 'Harmonic Mood Music Library' Library > Record. Its called Light and Comedy (1971) and features two tracks by Gert > Wilden
In my humble little opinion, anything that has Gert Wilden's name on it
is worth getting! And for that price, it's certainly worth taking a
chance on - I've yet to hear anything of his I didn't like!
cheryl
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:16:12 EDT
From: <Rcbrooksod@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots
In a message dated 98-07-28 11:44:03 EDT, an exotica poster writes:
<< Boy, I welcome the party crashers! The more the merrier, I say! I disdain
esoteric elitism, and I for one am happy when folks actually appreciate
and discover stuff that's cool and worthwhile. >>
I would argue that the only thing most of these people "appreciate" is the way
the music (or scene if you will) will make them "cool and worthwhile". They
use the music as a device to elevate their social status -- not because they
like the music. In other words, they aren't the types who would sit at home
and listen to different music styles. They want to be with the scene.
I am not saying all are like this but (and I have my flame retardant suit on
now) the late comers to lounge will be the first to leave once they discover
that the swing scene is now "the place to be scene". (sic.)
OK -- do your worst.
Robert
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:18:29 EDT
From: <Rcbrooksod@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots
In a message dated 98-07-28 11:44:03 EDT, a exotica poster wrote:
<< BTW, as someone who jumped in on this head first in 1994/1995 or so, *I*
probably qualify as a party crasher. >>
It's not a question of when you got on board. It's a question of why you got
on board. Am I the only one who sees and appreciates this distinction?
Robert
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:31:53 EDT
From: <Rcbrooksod@aol.com>
Subject: (exotica) Console to Coffin -- Or Dance on (in) My Grave
In a message dated 98-07-28 11:55:56 EDT, you write:
<< Well, yeah, to be frank, console stereos do rank pretty low on the hi-fi
totem
pole.
BUT, I'll bet they provide a very authentic, true to the period, easy
listening
experience. I think my grandparents went through two or three consoles in the
60s, with their Herb Alpert, Lawrence Welk, Hawaiian, polka and etc albums.
Do
you have the long, coffin-sized ones, with the built-in album storage bin? >>
Oh yeah -- it's period baby. That's what I love about it. And get ready to
cringe. I stack those bastards on the spindle and let them "plop" away. It
also gives me a little thrill to hear that needle hit the vinyl and little
"clunk-clunk" that the arm return mechanism makes as it cycles off. (If you
want to be real specific: the Magnavoxes use a system where the arm swings
over and taps the record that is suspended on the spindle and then the arm
swings back out-- the record drops and the arm then swings back in to it's
reference point and "boom-clunk-clunk" -- I love it!!!)
To the other question: yes, 3 of the ones I have are the long "coffin type"
(your description -- not mine). They have different cabinet styles and wood
types. All sorts of little lights that indicate power, stereo fix on FM
station, etc. The one in my study/computer room doubles as a display for my
tiki mug collection.
Sorry this got long winded -- I just love this vintage stuff. My wife is very
tolerant. She needs to be -- amongst these consoles I have also drug home
Victrolas and a player piano. She cringes everytime I go "junking".
Final comment -- you know, one of those consoles would make a good coffin. If
I was an "open casket" they could just slid the little lid open.
Robert
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:40:44 EDT
From: <Rcbrooksod@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
In a message dated 98-07-28 20:19:59 EDT, a new exotica list member wrote:
<< As a long term listener but relativly new to the list I find it somewhat
inhibiting not knowing past discussions. >>
Don't worry about starting a thread again about an old topic. Hell, if we get
too many threads well just make a freaking quilt.
Keep your post coming (this means all you lurkers too -- and you know who you
are).
Robert
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 21:52:38 -0600
From: Lazlo Nibble <lazlo@swcp.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rollcall
On Wed, Jul 22, 1998 at 09:11:40PM +0000, Moritz R wrote:
>> Hell, I'm on at least forty lists over and above the dozen or so I run
>> -- I *have* to lurk on most of 'em just to stay sane and employed!
>
> Mein Gott! Laszlo, what are you doing with all that knowledge that you
> collect? I hardly find time just to read the postings of the Exotica
> list!
I allow it to wash over me like the waves of the ocean. :-)
Found Dee-Latin hi-fi Organ Lenny Dee this weekend at an antique/flea just
outside of Lambertville, NJ this wochende.
The guy selling it was a "scheister" as usual.
After rifling through all his records and pulling out only one, he asked
what I was looking for. I said "Exotica" he said "What?" I said "Lounge"
he said ""What's that?" I said "older stuff, not rock" He seemed to
understand this.
When I showed him the Dee-Latin, and said this is what I wanted he said "six
dollars." I said forget it. He said, "well, what do you think it is worth"
I said two. He said "no way, I collect records I know."
At this point I had to chuckle. You collect records, have no idea what
exotica is or lounge is and want to charge $6 for something with a beat up
sleeve, just because it was the only record I pulled out of the pile? I
don't think so. Homey don't play that.
He was probably upset because I was likely the only customer at that market
with a working turntable or something.
He said 4. I said "szia" and walked away. He said OK, OK how much? I said
two. He said all right and sold it to me.
It certainly wasn't a steal, but I don't expect to see any old Lenny Dee of
this 1950s Decca vintage anywhere ever again in a thrift/flea.
As far as spending all that time looking...I enjoyed it and I had to wait
for my wife to go through all that damn costume jewelry anyway...
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 10:46:42 -0400
From: cheryl <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots
Rcbrooksod@aol.com wrote:
> I am not saying all are like this but (and I have my flame retardant suit on > now) the late comers to lounge will be the first to leave once they discover > that the swing scene is now "the place to be scene".
I fully agree with you on that point! From reading the recent articles
in magazines and papers on "the swing phenomenon", it's evident the
marketing people are trying again...(you can just hear it now -
"hmmm...lounge didn't really take off the way we expected it would, and
we have the rights to all of this stuff anyways, so what can we do
next?...") If someone is listening to lounge music just because it's
"in", and not because they really like the music, they'll just move on
to the next trend when it comes along. That's what happens when you let
the "hit" radio stations and national chain record stores tell you what
to listen to! (of course, the only benefit to lounge being "trendy" is
the music that's being reissued, which is a nice bonus!)
cheryl
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 07:54:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peter C <sophisticated_savage@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki room of Stockholm, summer 98, part 1
- ---Moritz R <Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de> wrote:
>
>
> > green fires
> >
>
> Whats that?
It┤s the color of any fire, after drinking one or two
