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Subject: exotica-digest V2 #167
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exotica-digest Tuesday, July 28 1998 Volume 02 : Number 167
In This Digest:
Re: (exotica) music - with a beat
(exotica) Playlist 7-19-98
(exotica) This is going to BLOW you away!
(exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder
Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
(exotica) Tiki room of Stockholm, summer 98, part 1
(exotica) Gert Wilden
(exotica) Laura's Q&A
(exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #166
Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots
(exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott
Re: (exotica) Stuck by THAT needle ! ! !
RE: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle!
(exotica) Jack Jones on Comedy Central 2nite
RE: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder
Re: (exotica) Jack Jones on Comedy Central 2nite
Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder
(exotica) New Christy Minstrels Do Motown
Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:32:57 -0700
From: "super k. riot" <kriot@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) music - with a beat
> But, when it comes right down to it I'll take my exotica straight.
>
> Frank
>
very true, i heard a swing cd once where they put a 4/4 beat to it and
it sucked big. but the bands i mentioned are very innovative (not really
lounge but i think the lounge crowd could actually dig on them). i;m not
saying you guys should run out and buy the cd's but if you have the
oppurtunity to hear 'em you should.
love, peace, and lounge
ken
- --
life is wonderful, but driving sucks
raves, tagging, poetry, breakdancing
http://home.pacbell.net/kriot
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:47:04 -0700
From: Jack Diamond <jack@jackdiamond.com>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist 7-19-98
KFJC play list 7/19/98 for Jack Diamond
ARTIST TRACK ALBUM
The Planets Chunky
Art Pepper Qrt Cool Bunny Jan, 1957
W/ Russ Freeman-Pno;
Ben Tucker-Bass
Chuck Flores-Drums
Big Jim Sullivan Sunshine Superman Sitar Beat!
Air Talisman Moon Safari
101 Strings Orch. W/
Bebe Bardon Je T'aime Love at 1st Sight
The Ventures Psyched-Out!
Mancini! with The Party (Instro)
Bill Plummer-Sitar
Plas Johnson-Tenor Sax
Jack Sheldon
Gershon Kingsley Trumansburg Whistle Music to Moog By
Leith Stevens Orch; The Movie Star Arr X Bill Holman
Chet Baker Mike Pacheco-Bongos
Bud Shank-Alto Sax Richie Kamuca-Tenor
Pepper Adams-Bari
Woody Phillips Dance Of The Sugar Plum
Fairy
Hot Club of America Caravan Coral
Fred Lowery Tennessee Waltz Mid 50'S Whistling
Cinzano Commercial Cinzano Makes Ashtrays 1966
Jim Gordon Rites of Passage
Mort Garson Witch Trial Black Mass Lucifer
Bill Jennings-Gtr Cool Grits
Jack Mcduff-Organ
Willis Jackson-Tenor
Tommy Potter-Bass
Gabor Szabo With; White Rabbit Bill Plummer-Sitar
California Dreamers
Fifty Foot Hose Fantasy Cauldron
(1st Half of Tune) Limelight, 1967
Lewis Sisters S'wonderful Liberty
The Forbidden 5 Enchanted Forest 60'S
Ken Nordine What Time Izzit Dot, 1957, Mono
??????????
Mark Renwick Melancholy Serenade Mussette Records
Clyde Borley S.O.S. Force Atco, 1966, France
Nino Rota: Ballando Con Raquel Soundtrack:
Alberto Investiga Spara Forte...
Raquel
Mistero 2
Alberto and Raquel
Sidney Poitier W/ Discovery of the Good
Fred Katz Orch. Life
Jerry Goldsmith Westward Ho-O-Oh! In Like Flint
Robert Prince Dance at the Gym:
Mambo
Maria Cha Cha
Jump
Kenyon Hopkins The Chase Nightmare!
David Jannsen & Public Service
Jack Webb Announcement For Dope Smuggling
Bob Leaper Orch High Wire
Dean Elliot Orch. College Confidential
Kenyon Hopkins Going Rooms Ost
Enoch Light What the World Needs Now Spaced Out!
Ed Wood Main Title Ed Wood
Cale, John Kiss Movement 01 Eat/Kiss: Music for the
Films
Taxi Driver Thank God for the Rain Taxi Driver
Taxi Driver Cleaning the Cab Taxi Driver
Taxi Driver I Still Can't Sleep Taxi Driver
La Morte Accarezz La Morte Accarezza a La Morte Accarezza
John Zorn's
Naked City The Sicilian Clan Morricone Title
Electric Piano- I Had Tooooooooo Much
Playground To Dream Last Night
Kenneth Patchen W/ As I Open the Window Folkways, 1959
Alan Neil Qrt
Johnny Kidd/Pirates Restless 1960
Nutty Squirrels Yardbird Suite Cannonball Adderly-Alto
Roy Clark Roy's Guitar Boogie
Liquid Sky Ost Nightclub 2
Pete Rugolo Diamond on the Move
KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
KFJC-FM is now LIVE On Line!
Fuck Yeah!!!
Please direct your browser to http://www.KFJC.org and click on
Internet Broadcast or tune your FM radio dial to 89.7 if you are in
or around the San Fracisco bay area for the best damn non-commercial station
in the entire galaxy, I shit you not.
Jack Diamond
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:48:58 -0700
From: Jack Diamond <jack@jackdiamond.com>
Subject: (exotica) This is going to BLOW you away!
The KFJC-FM DJ Playlists;
http://www.spies.com/misc/kfjc/md/pl/
Click a week, any week
Jack
"Attilio Mineo Conducts Man in Space With Sounds" Now on CD!
Http://www.jackdiamond.com/attilio.htm
Http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/
Publicity by Motormouth Media (Hollywood, CA)
*Primary* Wholesale Distribution in the US:
NAIL Distribution
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OR
Wholesale/Retail Sales:
Jack Diamond Music
Http://www.jackdiamond.com
Fax/Phone (650) 325-2284
European Wholesale Distribution/Retail Sales
Stefan Kery/Subliminal Sounds
Stefan@subliminal.se
Fax/Phone +46 8 694 86 66
web-site: http://home6.swipnet.se/~w-64169/
e-mail: stefan@subliminal.se
Tune in The House of Games with Jack Diamond
Sundays 10AM-1PM
Http://www.KFJC.org
KFJC-FM, 89.7
12345 El Monte Rd.
Los Altos Hills, CA
Since January 1993
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:08:15 -0400
From: Ross Orr <rotohut@ic.net>
Subject: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
Ahem.
Had a bit of a brain spasm today--after about 20 months on the list, I
notice there seem to be certain discussion threads which resurface
regularly. . . I wondered if any of the 300+ out there might find it useful
to have a FAQ, which would briefly summarize some of these old favorites.
I seem to recall Lazlo had posted the beginnings of a FAQ on the list
homepage, but last time I looked it only had a few entries. . .
So here's my goofy attempt at starting one. . . needless to say, I don't
want this to reopen ALL the old flame wars at once! I was mainly trying to
summarize the different positions which often come out when certain topics
come around. But please email me offlist if you think I'm seriously
misrepresenting something. If there's enough interest, perhaps some kind
soul could find the server space to put this up for general reference . . .
Here goes:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Exotica Mailing List FAQ [First Draft] 27 July 1998
Q: What is =B3exotica=B2?
A: A musical genre, named for the 1957 Martin Denny album of the same title.
Most narrowly defined, it refers to lounge jazz augmented with polynesian,
asian and latin instruments and =B3tropical=B2 themes. The principal exotica
artists are Denny, Arthur Lyman, Gene Rains and (in a few releases) Les
Baxter.
In the context of this list, it is used as a term of convenience to cover
many genres of 50s and 60s music--most might fall under the general
umbrella of =B3space age pop instrumentals.=B2 These can include percussion,
Cha-Cha, soundtracks, =B3Now Sound,=B2 Bossa Nova, Moog, and a thousand othe=
r
subcategories according to the taste of each individual. (I use =B3exotica=
=B2
in the remainder of this FAQ to cover all these possiblities.)
Q: Is it correct to call this music =B3lounge=B2?
A: Well, as a way of describing the *music* (as opposed to =B3the scene=B2)
there are some objections to the word--but you might as well get used to
it: That is the most common term used by the outside world (e.g. in
labelling bins in the music store). However =B3lounge=B2 might be interprete=
d
as including some legitimate jazz, torch singers, etc., all of which are a
little more mainstream than the interests of list members. Also, the
connotation of subdued, low-energy music clearly doesn=B9t apply to the more
dynamic sounds of performers like Esquivel.
Q: Well, what is the correct term?
A: There is no answer to this, although people have variously suggested
Space Age Bachelor-Pad; Easy; Cocktail; Hi-Fi; Space Age Pop; Cheesy
Listening; Dynamica; etc.
Q: Do people really LIKE this =B3obviously=B2 awful music?
A: Fans of exotica are well aware that it was utterly reviled as =B3easy
listening=B2 or =B3plastic=B2 by the rock generation; for some, a perverse k=
itsch
appeal was the starting point. However most would say that the more time
you spend with this music, the more your appreciation grows for the energy,
inventiveness, and musicianship, and the creative arrangements
involved--despite the somewhat misguided concepts that may have been
explored.
Also, the orginal intent to create =B3commercial=B2 music for a particular
market can no longer be regarded as something sinster--by now it must be
seen as a fascinating athropological window into the spirit of those times.
Q: Is it bad or good when your previously-obscure little hobby becomes a
genuine, media-approved =B3scene=B2?
A: Well, you may be annoyed when a bunch of shallow people start crashing
your party, knowing next to nothing about the music and just wanting to be
part of a fad--but their numbers do tend to get the attention of record
company executives, with the happy result that some impossible-to-find
material (like Esquivel LPs) get re-released on CD.
As of 1998 we are experiencing the flip side of this trend, as the media
stampede is now headed towards =B3swing=B2 (another media label which blurs
together several genres). While there are points of overlap with exotica,
it has generally been interpreted as the waning of the Lounge trend. The
downside has been an abrupt dropoff in exotica re-releases. But there=B9s
some speculation that finding vintage exotica on vinyl may be getting
(infinitesimally) easier, as some collectors move on to other genres.
Q: Are the Capitol =B3Ultra Lounge=B2 CDs any good?
A: The series is entertainingly packaged and aggressively promoted, and
generally helped improve the visibility of =B3Lounge.=B2 However the reperto=
ire
came entirely from the vaults of Capitol (and its affliliates), so some of
the real titans of exotica got left out (e.g. Esquivel, Enoch Light); and
some of what got included was fairly generic. Nonetheless, a few of the UL
CDs (e.g. =B3Bachelor Pad Royale=B2) are considered essential.
Some have objected to the way the UL series became the 800-Pound Gorilla of
Lounge, sucking up all the consumer dollars which might otherwise have gone
to supporting other re-releases of individual classic exotica albums.
Q: What is the best way to clean my records?
A: The purist, or someone with many records to deal with, should
investigate the various wet/vacuum record cleaners from Nitty Gritty, VPI,
or The Audio Advisor. Although the cost of these machines seems high, users
are uniformly positive about the results.
People on a budget or with more casual needs generally do fine washing
records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge. Ideally the
final rinse should be in distilled water, so there are no mineral
residues--but in practice if you blot the record dry after shaking off
excess water, this is not essential.
Q: Is it wrong to buy bootlegs?
A: Virtually all agree they would prefer to see a legitimate release, where
the original artists receive credit and royalties where possible. In some
cases the existence of bootlegs can undermine the market for such
legitimate releases. However some feel there is a gray area, where
rights-holders have thrown up impossible obstacles to a legitmate release,
and where the intent is more to make hard-to-find music available rather
than as a mercenary venture. Whatever your ethical views are, the rapid
spread of digital reproduction technology is certain to make the issue even
more confused in coming years.
Q: Is it possible to find good records in thrift stores, or are those LPs
all just destroyed Barbara Streisand albums? (Corollary: Is it worth paying
=B3dealer prices=B2 for LPs I want, or am I getting ripped off?)
A: Two different exotica fans, both behaving with complete economic
rationality, can arrive at very different answers to this one.
Thrifting makes sense for people with free time, moderate incomes, who
might go thrifting anyway for other reasons, and who live in areas with
good thrifting demographics. This might mean rural or shrinking industrial
areas where the young hipsters tend to move away, but where a stable, older
middle class still lives. Busy professionals who live in trendier urban
areas will probably find thrifting a waste of time. For them, the service
provided by dealers in locating and culling LPs is generally worth the
premium charged.
One misconception is that the condition of thrift store records is
uniformly bad: In fact the condition is extremely variable, ranging from
unplayable to near mint. And at prices of $1 per LP or lower, it becomes
possible to take chances on unknown albums or to accept disks in poorer
condition, just to learn more about different artists.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[Please send any additions, corrections, comments, suggested changes in
language, etc. to Ross =B3Mambo Frenzy=B2 Orr at <rotohut@ic.net> .]
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:08:48 +0000
From: Moritz R <Moritz.Reichelt@munich.netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
A FAQ list might be good for newcomers, but I have my doubts about some of the
following answers (and a question to the first one):
Ross Orr wrote:
> Q: What is 3exotica2?
>
> A: A musical genre, named for the 1957 Martin Denny album of the same title.
> Most narrowly defined, it refers to lounge jazz augmented with polynesian,
> asian and latin instruments and 3tropical2 themes. The principal exotica
> artists are Denny, Arthur Lyman, Gene Rains and (in a few releases) Les
> Baxter.
Who is Gene Rains?
>Q: Do people really LIKE this 3obviously2 awful music?
obviously awful??? You're playing with your life...
> A: Fans of exotica are well aware that it was utterly reviled as 3easy
> listening2 or 3plastic2 by the rock generation; for some, a perverse kitsch
> appeal was the starting point. However most would say that the more time
> you spend with this music, the more your appreciation grows for the energy,
> inventiveness, and musicianship, and the creative arrangements
> involved--despite the somewhat misguided concepts that may have been
> explored.
I would say I loved it from the first note I heard.
> Q: What is the best way to clean my records?
>
> People on a budget or with more casual needs generally do fine washing
> records in the kitchen sink with dish soap and a clean sponge.
I would never do this to my records.
Anyway, how do we get this passed? Elections?
***MO***
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 07:55:23 EDT
From: <Rcbrooksod@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
In a message dated 98-07-28 01:09:50 EDT, you write:
<< I wondered if any of the 300+ out there might find it useful
to have a FAQ, which would briefly summarize some of these old favorites. >>
I think this little FAQ's from Ross' point of view was very well thought out
and I, as I am sure others, appreciate his efforts. And while some of his
comments could be open for debate, I don't suspect that would be the intent of
his post. I think if you disagree with his comments (or have something to
add) you should post your own question and answer it with the same degree of
thought and effort he did.
On a lighter note -- some of you readers are aware that I am an optometrist
(and a few of those) know that I have Exotica Fridays at my office. I play
Denny, Lyman, Esquivel, SABPM, Lounge, etc. thru my office stereo system. OK
- -- so where am I going with this?
My FAQ (often posed by staff and patients): This music is wierd? Are you
crazy?
A: Yes I am. But what does that have to do with the music?
Robert "Never met an exoticat I didn't like" Brooks
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:56:21 EDT
From: <DJJimmyBee@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder
My radio station has a few 45's by Mitch Ryder on the-ah-um-i forget label.
The songs are produced by Bob Crewe and are filled with Crewe-like
sounds...Mitch Ryder's voice (which I like) kind of gets in the way of the
listening. Worth grabbing if you find them, but I've never seen them anywhere
but WMBR-FM...BTW, I saw Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels at Canobie Lake
Casino in New Hampshire in 1966
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:53:53 -0700
From: "Carl Russo" <c_russo@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Indian Pop
Don't think this has been mentioned:
Has anyone seen the soundtrack from the outrageous Indian musical action
epic GOD IS MY WITNESS? I tried a few Indian music stores in the Bay Area
but no luck.
C. "Ratso" Russo
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 06:51:51 PDT
From: "Magnus Sandberg" <bellybongo@hotmail.com>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki room of Stockholm, summer 98, part 1
I'll have to thank Stefan for arranging three great tiki rooms this
summer, in Lund, Hultsfred and Stockholm. as i understand it, this
excellent legendary club wont display its splendor no more.
just for you all 300+ exoticats on the Exotica list, here is my personal
rewiew of the Tiki Room this summer:
Lund, may 98.
We arrived in the middle of the night approximately 10 hours too late.
on the roof of our van was a huge tiki made by tikiartist Jonas of
Subliminal Sounds and Stuff. After a good night sleep we started to
build the first tiki room of the summer. The environment was perfect for
this purpose, and the result was very beautiful. Lots of bamboo covering
walls, trees and the stage. Stefans tiki lamps and paintings by Max and
myself were placed all over the outdoor area. We also had a brand new
surfboard as decoration.
Then i guess we started on the drinks...
Next, the Barbwires arrived in their van, with another huge tiki by
Jonas.
All were settled and the tiki room began. Lots of good music from the
DJs (Stefan, Jonas, Max, Micke of the barbwires and myself) and the
livebands performed raw exotic rock n roll (the fab Fezmen Five) and
delicate instro surf (The Barbwires). Of course lots of drinks were
consumed, which was strange, because none of us had that much money, and
we had to pay for it ;) Suddenly I spilled a Blue hawaii over my
precious records during a dj session, so i sobered up rather quickly
and started cleaning the lps with paper towels between the dj-ing. Some
of my lps is still kind of "sugary" but none of them were seriously
damaged. Well... My copy of "the enchanted tiki room" got its insert
booklet waterdamaged. "the enchanted tiki room" was in fact the lead
motif for tiki room this summer. Our own hula dancer, Ida, started her
dancing with the "in the tiki tiki tiki room" song.
Well whats more?.. after we closed for the night, we took a look
downtown. there were partys all over, because the Student Carnival were
held this weekend. But nothing could beat tiki room so i believe i was
kind of early in bed.
We did tiki room the whole next day and evening as well until about
12.00 PM.
then we held a private tiki room just for ourself out in the tiki garden
on the grass, and it became an enchanted night with green fires and the
distant sounds of nightlife...
end of part 1
Magnus
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 15:01:01 +0100
From: "Charles Moseley" <Charles_Moseley%MCKINSEY-EXTERNAL@MCKINSEY.COM>
Subject: (exotica) Gert Wilden
I just happened across a C Brull Ltd 'Harmonic Mood Music Library' Libr=
ary
Record. Its called Light and Comedy (1971) and features two tracks by G=
ert
Wilden described as:
'Woodwind figures over theme on brass'
and
'Fast - opens with bass and bongos; later with flutes and guitars over;=
speeds up before end' - sounds cool.
Its a whole =A37.00. Worth the risk anybody?
=
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:04:25 -0400
From: "lsanto" <lsanto@concentric.net>
Subject: (exotica) Laura's Q&A
Recent subscribers and lurkers may like to play a game called "answer
this!"
that some of us played back in '96. This questionnaire was submitted by the
missing-in-action Lounge Laura (and when is that Ultra-Vixen going to get
herself re-wired?). You can check the archives for the responses submitted
by list-members at that time. If you play the game this time, feel free to
add/subtract or modify the questions to taste.
- - -Lou
From: "Laura Taylor"
Subject: (exotica) answer this!
Date: 10 Oct 1996 19:52:53 -0400
1. Are you a musician? Explain...
Nope. Wish I was though; still I'm thinking of taking up the theremin...
2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?
Well, I always liked odd music and Mancini has been a fave since
childhood. I suppose my interest was rekindled by the Esquivel reissues.
3. This list could help you more by...
Mailing me all the free records I could want.
4. Other exotica/things you collect
Movie books, plastic robots, the usual.
5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like
Movie soundtracks are the main thing. But anything that puts the fear
o'god into my coworkers will do in a pinch.
6. What are you just dying to tell us?
It's a secret. Shhhh. Actually, that I kissed June Foray (she'd be richer
than Bill Gates if she opened a phone sex line) at a Bullwinke festival.
7. Initials you prefer, CD or LP? And why do you? Is it a sound quality
consideration? The aesthetics of LP art? The supposed clarity of CDs?
Tell
us more!
Don't have a preference per se. My turntable is down so, I suppose I'm
buying more cd's of late... but I even have some 8 tracks I still listen to
occasionally.
I'm a content man, not a medium fetishist.
8. Own a fez? If so, what color, texture and tassel color? Describe it or
other lounge-wear of which you are proud?
Several. Bright red cheapassfelt ones with yellow tassels from Archie
McPhee (the land of stunt fezzes). Bright red fabric with electric blue
lining and black tassle (with stitching to keep it on the right side).
Smaller burgundy with purple lining and similar black stitched tassel. All
save the AM stunt fez are rigid and blocked with paper.
How's by y'all?
Mike
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 98 11:19:44 -0000
From: "Michael D. Toth" <mtoth@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #166
>I'm currently using a Sumiko Blue Point - not a cheap cartridge at about 200
>bucks, but also not the most expensive.=20
I splurged for one of these about a few years ago when they were around
$125 upon the recommendation of a couple audiophile friends. It was one
of the best investments I ever made (FYI, I'm using it on a decent 80s
Technics turntable I bought used for $45). There was stuff in my records
I had never heard before!
>Unfortunately, the needle for the Sumiko Blue Point cartridge is not
>replaceable. You have to buy the whole shebang all over again, which gets
>costly. I'm actually looking for something with a similar low profile=
> needle,
Actually, having just replaced one, while the whole cartridge IS
physically replaced, Sumiko has a "stylus replacement" program where you
trade in your old cartridge and get a new one for $50 or so less. The
dealer sends the old cartridge back to Sumiko, who recycles some of the
parts. If the dealer doesn't keep multiple Sumikos in regular stock, you
may have to wait a couple weeks for a cartridge swap though.
Also, I did learn to keep a spare, cheap cartridge on hand for dirtier,
more worn LPs. While it sounds INCREDIBLE, I've found the Blue Point
isn't horribly robust.
Michael David Toth
mtoth@neo.lrun.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 98 11:45:36 -0000
From: Michael D. Toth <mtoth@neo.lrun.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Party Crashers/Wannabe Idiots
"Br. Cleve" <bcleve@pop.tiac.net> wrote:
>At 10:21 AM -0400 7/19/98, <Rcbrooksod@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> on one hand i like that the public has "recognized"
>>our long loved passion for this music. on the other hand, i don't know if i
>>like them "crashing our party".
>They crashed the party, then realized they were in the midst of a bunch of
>misfits and social deviants.
Boy, I welcome the party crashers! The more the merrier, I say! I disdain
esoteric elitism, and I for one am happy when folks actually appreciate
and discover stuff that's cool and worthwhile. But, to me, it all
reinforces the fact that cool/worthwhile and commercial success have NO
relationship either way. I declare the world is a better place with all
those Esquivel compilation CDs in homes across America.
"Party Crashers" make reissues more viable too. :-)
BTW, as someone who jumped in on this head first in 1994/1995 or so, *I*
probably qualify as a party crasher.
Also, reading Cleve's demographic breakdowns, I feel I'm horribly
predictable and generic. Veering off topic a bit:
>who would rather travel for miles to go to the drive-in theatre
Yeah, I take for granted there are still, like THREE or FOUR Drive-Ins
within a 20 mile radius of me. While I've been meaning to go back for a
while, I haven't gone for YEARS. We've also still got *several* GREAT
vintage drive-in burger and/or Root Beer joints around Akron, which I'm
told is pretty atypical.
Michael David Toth
mtoth@neo.lrun.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:04:55 +0200
From: "Basta Audio Visuals" <basta@xs4all.nl>
Subject: (exotica) Popp&Basta&Scott
Dear Ms/Mrs/Sir,
I picked your emailaddress from the xmission site, please accept excuses =
if
this message isn`t wanted.
I hope you can help me. I am from Basta Audio Visuals from Holland. My
company issues for example Soothing Sounds for Baby by Raymond Scott and
Delirium in Hifi by Andr=E9 Popp. I think I have some very interesting ne=
ws,
regarding new and re-issues of Raymond Scott, Andr=E9 Popp and Les Baxter
Orchestra. These issues will all be by Basta so I can supply you all the
details. I am familiar with World Wide Web and email, but not with
newsgroups and that kind of things. Could you help me out ? Is there a pl=
ace
on the internet where you can ask questions to a lot of people in one tim=
e ?
I am planning on releasing the three Soothing Sounds albums on vinyl, but=
I
have no idea how many people would be interested. I would really apprecia=
te
it if you would help me.
Thanks in advance & kindest regards
Jeroen van der Schaaf
Basta Audio Visuals
www.basta.nl
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:54:18 -0400
From: "m.ace" <ecam@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Stuck by THAT needle ! ! !
> From: Rcbrooksod@aol.com
> Subject: (exotica) Stuck by THAT needle ! ! !
>
> man, and i limit myself to those magnavox consoles (i am always gushing
about)
> for which i pay about $ 50.00 each. and with that $ 50.00 i get a
combonation
> record player, radio and piece of furniture all in one. i did replace a
> needle recently and it was $ 9.95. no joke.
Well, yeah, to be frank, console stereos do rank pretty low on the hi-fi totem
pole.
BUT, I'll bet they provide a very authentic, true to the period, easy listening
experience. I think my grandparents went through two or three consoles in the
60s, with their Herb Alpert, Lawrence Welk, Hawaiian, polka and etc albums. Do
you have the long, coffin-sized ones, with the built-in album storage bin?
m.ace ecam@voicenet.com
OOK http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:04:34 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" <crajnai@att.com>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Beware the blunted needle!
i think cheryl hit the diamond on the head (yuk,yuk). If you have a
turntable capable of holding a magnetic cartridge (made since the 70s, most
likely) you should be using a tracking weight of no more than 1.25 grams.
Anything heavier will wreck both your stylus (needle) and your old records.
Do not even consider the DJ type cartridges that require like 5 grams, you
will burn through records and needles like crazy.
Those $80 and up cartridges do tend to last a little longer, depending upon
the stylus SHAPE and weight. The audiophyle ones last longer too, but are
ridiculously expensive to replace when they go. Mine are cheaper like
yours, and last about 1000 hours. Yours seem to be doing half that. Check
your weight...
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:12:43 -0400
From: Chris Cook <cook@pobox.upenn.edu>
Subject: (exotica) Jack Jones on Comedy Central 2nite
Dunno if this has been posted already, and it's probably of limited appeal
... but I got lazy & didn't post an alert to this group about some VH1
stuff last night, and regret that *immensely*. More on that in a moment ...
Tonight (7.28) at 10pm East Coast time, the normally headache-inducing
"Viva Variety" on Comedy Central is broadcasting its season premiere from
Vegas, with guests Susan Anton, Rip Taylor, David Cassidy, and one of my
alltime favorite swoonsters: Jack Jones. (Also appearing are the Rockettes
and <yawn> the Cherry Poppin' Daddies.) Sure you already knew about this.
Now: Boy, VH1 last nite. Those who caught it know what I mean. Some
pretty awazing Sullivan clips of the Carpenters; Mamas & Papas; Dino, Desi
& Whatsisname; and a downright netherwordly performance of "It's Not
Unusual" by a boyishly figured Tom Jones (where exactly *was* the band,
across the street? ... his snapping drowned out the brass ...).
The real treats, though, were some garish Cher tapes of her 70s variety
show. Now, an appreciation of 70s TV glitz & schlock is certainly outside
the scope of this group (remind me again, why *was* Jimmy Walker a star?)
... but, Cher did a hotmamma medley of all her turbulent hits. Mr. Wayne
Newton (when did we drop those soberly intoned salutory titles &
introductions on TV? "Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Rich Little ...") sang an
oh-so earnest "Feelings" (proof: there *was* a time when you could sing
that song & not get laughs). The coup-de-grace ... I nearly passed out
from the excitement of it all ... a be-Mackied Cher & Wayne Newtown,
sporting a flared tux & dinner-plate belt buckle, singing a duet that
included "Birth of the Blues" and "Rockabye Your Baby With a Dixie Melody."
I still haven't recovered.
ANYWAY: VH1 seems like they're gonna keep doing a retro thing on Mondays,
for awhile anyway, so you may find it worth your while to check it out ...
Sorry to have rambled on so!!
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:47:19 -0400
From: "Rajnai, Charles, NPG NNAD" <crajnai@att.com>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Anyone for a FAQ?
I like the FAQ so far.
so there
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:40:22 -0700
From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <davidson@serv.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder
At 08:56 AM 7/28/98 EDT, you wrote:
>
>My radio station has a few 45's by Mitch Ryder on the-ah-um-i forget label.
>The songs are produced by Bob Crewe and are filled with Crewe-like
>sounds
Bob Crewe actually co-wrote many Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels songs
("Jenny takes a ride", #10 US pop, 1965; "Sock it to me baby", #6, US pop
1967). The article I read about his Vegas-lounge era (I wish I could
remember where I read it) referred to a definite change of genre for him,
which proved disastrous for his career, alienating his fan base.
BTW, I saw Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels at Canobie Lake
>Casino in New Hampshire in 1966
Cool. In 1973 or 1974, in a small lounge outside the headliner room at
Harrah's casino in Lake Tahoe, I saw Davy Jones and Mickey Dolenz
performing together (Monkees hits, of course), to a disinterested crowd of
about 30 people. It was quite surreal!
Dave
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 11:52:31 -0700
From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <davidson@serv.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack Jones on Comedy Central 2nite
At 01:12 PM 7/28/98 -0400, Chris wrote:
Now, an appreciation of 70s TV glitz & schlock is certainly outside
>the scope of this group (remind me again, why *was* Jimmy Walker a star?)
Not outside my scope! I can't get enough of this stuff - Starland Vocal
Band, Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods, even the by-some-dreaded "The Night
Chicago Died" (for those keeping score, by Paper Lace). These albums will
probably never by re-released, and are found quite easily thrifting. Blue
Swede? Vanity Fair? Mouth and McNeil? Daniel Boone?
Why Jimmy Walker? Catch phrases, I guess. Dy-no-mite goes down in the
cultural lexicon, right next to "Sit on it" and "Up your nose with a rubber
hose".
Dave
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 14:46:50 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <hagar@mindspring.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder
>Bob Crewe actually co-wrote many Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels songs
>("Jenny takes a ride", #10 US pop,
That's a fine thing! Crewe took a writing credit for melding an old blues
song and a Little Richard song.
Harrumph,
Brian Phillips
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 98 14:56:47 Pacific Daylight Time
From: darren hutton <darren.hutton@gte.net>
Subject: (exotica) New Christy Minstrels Do Motown
I forgot who I was talking to in here about The New Christy Minstrels, so I'll have to post this to the whole
group. Sorry!
I was in a used record store in Ottawa this am and found the most amazing record I've ever seen in my life. It is
called "The New Christy Minstrels Take A Tour Of Motortown", and it's their versions of Motown hits! Price?
A cool 25 (Canadian) bucks.
Darren!
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 13:06:17 -0700
From: Dave & LeAnn Davidson <davidson@serv.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mitch Ryder
At 02:46 PM 7/28/98 -0400, Brian wrote:
>
>>Bob Crewe actually co-wrote many Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels songs
>>("Jenny takes a ride", #10 US pop,
>
>That's a fine thing! Crewe took a writing credit for melding an old blues
>song and a Little Richard song.
Full songwriting credits: Richard Penniman, Enotris Johnson, and Bob Crewe.
I can see your point!
Dave
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