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exotica-digest       Sunday, September 16 2001       Volume 02 : Number 1044



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(exotica) Re:  OK, so I saw Ghost World, too...Patience & Prudence
Re: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well
Re: (exotica) New member introduction
Re: (exotica) New member introduction
3-LPs only $35. | re: (exotica) Manhattan Research on Vinyl
(exotica) 1952
Re: (exotica) 1952
(exotica) mouldy old dough
Re: (exotica) 1952
Re: (exotica) 1952
RE: (exotica) mouldy old dough
RE: (exotica) 1952
Re: (exotica) mouldy old dough
Re: (exotica) 1952
RE: (exotica) 1952
(exotica) Brown Baby
RE: (exotica) Brown Baby
(exotica) Xformation
(exotica) ecl3ctic.gemm.com update
(exotica) e-mail problem
(exotica)NYC-RIP WTC-OUI OUI
Re: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC
Re: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC
(exotica) enoch light in the wire
(exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo"
Re: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo"
Re: (exotica) re: kahimi / Cowboy Bebop

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:29:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  OK, so I saw Ghost World, too...Patience & Prudence

My favorite song in Ghost World was by Patience & Prudence. I never
heard it before and it was not one of their "hits"  I'm sorry to
see it not on the soundtrack.

- --- Nicola Battista <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Wel we don't have this movie here yet... but I can already have
> the music!
>
>
http://www.emusic.com/affiliate1000/sourceid=00251722644171201723/albums/26964



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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:04:09 -0500
From: "Colleen Pyles" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Hope all are well

Nicola,
Thank you so much for your kind words.


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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:19:52 +0000
From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New member introduction

Welcome to the list David. I for one would love to have 35 Baxter albums, so
you can take comfort in knowing there's a guy up in Canada already jealous
of your record collection.

Maybe in one of your posts you could tell us where in the South you are. How
are the thrift stores down there? I'm trying to find the second-hand store
land of milk and honey. When I find it i'm moving there cuz it sure as hell
ain't up here.

all the best
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:28:20 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New member introduction

At 03:19 PM 9/13/01 +0000, james brouwer wrote:
.>
>Maybe in one of your posts you could tell us where in the South you are. How
>are the thrift stores down there? I'm trying to find the second-hand store
>land of milk and honey.

Yeah sure. He's going to tell you about his thrift stores and you'll drive
down there and wipe them out.  Would you tell him if you did live in the
land of milk and honey. (At least you live in the land of relative safety.)
Welcome to the list, guy with 35 Les Baxters.
I'd also like to know where in the South you are but only so I could have
some pleasant memories.

AZ



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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:48:33 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 3-LPs only $35. | re: (exotica) Manhattan Research on Vinyl



   "MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC." 3-LP SET (only $35.)
     vintage Raymond Scott electronica now available on Vinyl LPs

     BASTA RECORDS has just released the entire 69-track "MANHATTAN RESEARCH
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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:05:20 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 1952

I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of mine
is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy he and his
fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and having somewhat
unusual, sophisticated tastes.  So that would include some jazz.  But I'd
like to make him a CD of exotica-related things.  Maybe Spike Jones?  I
don't know what else.  Did Les Baxter make records that early?  How about
some Hawaiian stuff or cha-cha?
I could use your help.

AZ



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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:48:07 +0000
From: KK <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952

alan zweig wrote:

> I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of mine
> is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy he and his
> fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and having somewhat
> unusual, sophisticated tastes.  So that would include some jazz.  But I'd
> like to make him a CD of exotica-related things.

I suggest not making a CD.

KK

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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:18:42 -0400
From: Jerry Nutter <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) mouldy old dough

El Maestro Con Queso: does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons
'Mouldy Old Dough', I don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it
for something here.

audiocarp: I believe I have the 45 (or maybe something else by him), but
don't have the foggiest idea of how I'd convert it into mp3 format! BTW,
who is Lieut. Pigeon?






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Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:21:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952

Well, you could just ignore the whole 1952 thing and use whatever music
you like and not tell them what year it's from. Maybe.


- - bruce



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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:57:46 -0700
From: "Myke O'Clock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952

>I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of
> >mine is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy >he
>and his fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and >having
>somewhat unusual, sophisticated tastes.  So that would include >some jazz.
>But I'd like to make him a CD of exotica-related things.  >Maybe Spike
>Jones?  I don't know what else.  Did Les Baxter make >records that early?
>How about some Hawaiian stuff or cha-cha?
>I could use your help.
>
>AZ

Les Baxter was active then. Here's a quick list of various Jazzy/Early
Exotica Artists who had stuff out by 1952. A lot of these folks may only
have early stuff available on anthologies rather than actual albums. If
nothing else, it may give you some ideas.
(Most of these I got just by checking their discogs at All Music Guide).

Les Baxter
Xavier Cugat
Slim Gaillard
Stan Getz
Lionel Hampton
Illinois Jacquet
Spike Jones
Louis Jordan
Stan Kenton
Gene Krupa
Enoch Light
Billy May
Professor Longhair
Edith Piaf
Tito Puente
Raymond Scott
Ethel Smith
The Three Suns

Hope this helps!

- --Myke

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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:09:36 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (exotica) mouldy old dough

Well, any Computer Audio Format would be acceptable.  I must admit I haven't
got a clue about the nuts and bolts of doing it, but I imagine PC or Mac
recording software would give the opportunity of chosing formats. Its a
popular pastime on the list.
I have a vague recollection of seeing them on Top of the Pops when the
record was out, sad to say it was a big hit over here.  But I don't know
anything about them,  by the line up of whistle, out of tune piano, bass and
that rhythm stick thing I think theres a good chance that they were a
working band caught out by a novelty hit that was nothing like their
'serious' stuff.  And couldn't follow it up.
There used to be a bloke who worked in one of our local second hand record
shops who claimed to collect different versions of it.  But the only cover
I've seen is that Moog one.  I've never seen any other Lieutenant Pigeon
records.
Thanks Audiocarp.  If you work out how to do it go ahead, you're my only
offer so far!


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    audiocarp: I believe I have the 45 (or maybe something else by him),
but
> don't have the foggiest idea of how I'd convert it into mp3 format! BTW,
> who is Lieut. Pigeon?


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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:30:52 +0100
From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (exotica) 1952

Edmundo Ros was working before the war.

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> >I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica but this strange friend of
> > >mine is getting married and the theme of the wedding is this fantasy
> >he
> >and his fiancee have created about being a couple in 1952 and >
>
> Les Baxter was active then. Here's a quick list of various Jazzy/Early
> Exotica Artists who had stuff out by 1952.
> Les Baxter
> Xavier Cugat
> Slim Gaillard
> Stan Getz
> Lionel Hampton
> Illinois Jacquet
> Spike Jones
> Louis Jordan
> Stan Kenton
> Gene Krupa
> Enoch Light
> Billy May
> Professor Longhair
> Edith Piaf
> Tito Puente
> Raymond Scott
> Ethel Smith
> The Three Suns
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> --Myke


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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 21:39:28 +1000
From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) mouldy old dough

on 7/9/01 12:28 AM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

> does anyone have an mp3 or such of Lieutenant Pigeons 'Mouldy Old Dough', I
> don't have the technology unfortunately, and need it for something here.

I can do this for you. It's on the album "I'll take you home again Kathleen"
which is filed under comedy in the children's room and they're asleep so
I'll get to it tomorrow.

What quality mp3 do you need? Mono, stereo, bit-rate? What are you using it
for?

Philip




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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 05:44:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 1952

I know that the Revel/Baxter theremin accompanied
records were coming out in the late 40s-early 50s
(Music Out of the Moon being the more jazzy of the
three). Also, his Ritual of the savage came out in
1952. Machito's pretty exotic. Dizzy Gillespie's Cuban
influenced pieces fit the bill - I'm sure there are
others in that vein.... Pepe Domingue.... Maybe some
Danny Guglielmi and Les Paul. Yma Sumac: Legend of the
Sun Virgin, Voice of the Xtabay, both 1952. In fact,
the more I look in to it, the more it seems like a
very good year. For exotica. Might want to toss in
some Sinatra.

- --- alan  zweig <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> I know that 1952 is a bit early for exotica

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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 15:40:16 +0200
From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) 1952

> Les Baxter was active then.

And more importantly: his recording of Quiet Village came out then.

Marco


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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:10:53 -0700
From: "basichip" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Brown Baby

Hi all -

I'm borrowing a great idea from Mr. Fodder.  He recently posted a
couple of complete and listenable  LP's on his Friendly Persuasion site and
I'm following his lead.  Submitted for your pleasure is a recent arrival,
Gordon Thomas' Brown Baby.  Please visit here to hear the whole album:

http://www.basichip.com/gordon_thomas/gordon_thomas.htm

Those familar with Citizen Kafka's incredible Americana Vox Populi CD
http://www.citizenkafka.com/fs/cd/voxpopliner.html or Irwin Chusid's Songs
In The Key Of Z http://www.keyofz.com/keyofz/index.htm will instantly
recognize the name Gordon Thomas.

"Incorrect Music" par excellence.

My deepest sympathies to any fellow listees with loved ones lost in
Tuesday's attack.

Peace -

Ford



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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:17:56 +0200
From: "Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Brown Baby

> I'm borrowing a great idea from Mr. Fodder.  He recently posted a
> couple of complete and listenable  LP's on his Friendly Persuasion site
and
> I'm following his lead.

Cool! Will you be posting albums on a regular basis, like once a month?
I'll have a cable connection next week, so I will start downloading this
stuff like mad!

Marco



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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:42:47 -0700
From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Xformation

>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:40:06 -0400
>From: "Brian" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Transformation
>
>Bigshot wrote:
>
>Steve, you have said all this before
>and I'm sure I was among the many respondents that seemed to be less able to
>describe in mere words exaclty what constitutes "good" music!

I'm not talking about "good" music. I am talking about "popular"
music. I think that the rapid transformation in music in the
first half of the 20th century was due to the fact that "popular"
music or "mainstream" music represented the voice of all music
of America. People used new recording and broadcasting technology
to diversify and transform popular music. Today, music is
fragmented into genres and sub-genres and sub-sub-genres that
"specialists" follow. "Popular" music is the *least* representative
of the forefront of music today. The main focus of recording and
broadcasting is on distributing "more of the same", rather than
trying to push the envelope with new sounds. I can't see how this
is a good thing.

See ya
Steve

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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:31:58 +0200
From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ecl3ctic.gemm.com update

Just a quick mail to inform you that a few Hexacord titles have been
relisted on this Gem page and that there are few finds related to Santi
Latora unplayed albums from 1970s.
These ones aren't exactly cheap but I am selling them at this price on
behalf of someone else.
http://ecl3ctic.gemm.com

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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 19:41:38 -0400
From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) e-mail problem

My dialup ISP has done a wonderful job of crashing the mail server since
early Thursday. They're still down, but I've switched all of my mail
plumbing fully onto my webhost's e-mail system (something I''ve been
meaning to get around to anyway), so I'm hooked up again. And I've caught
up on the list posts via the web archive. Point of this post being (finally
getting to it): if you've e-mailed me offlist in the past couple of days, I
didn't receive it. Sorry. Please resend. Thanks for reading.

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Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:14:23 -0400
From: Peter Gingerich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC-OUI OUI

      Checking in with the list, still safe and sound, (so far), in NYC.
Working far enough away from the action to miss it but caught it on tv,
living close enough to see the smoke plume and smell the leftover fires at
night.
  RIP WTC is some stencilled graffiti around here. Although I never wanted
to work there (always seemed like a firetrap or weird vibe magnet) did
occasionally visit to catch concerts in the summer garden (most memorably a
Pauline Oliveros/Deep Listening Band psychedelic fest) and up on Windows On
The World, the top floor, that would often host djs and the odd band. It was
a cool place for a bit, with the sort of funky old seventies style bar and
the dancefloor.
   NYC is pretty grim right now, CMJ has been cancelled and a bunch of other
stuff, downtown was paralyzed for a bit (well it still is way downtown).
This may be of interest to Pizzicatto Five fans (or the spectrapop (?)
list) - on a lighter note I got to hang out with Nomiya Maki (ex Pizzicatto
Five) who was in town to perform this friday for fashion week which of
course was cancelled for less frivolous things. She was with her partner
Reiko, they have a new group called Oui Oui.  Nomiya has a little book out,
titled A-Z or something, which is essentially about, er, herself.
Impressive indeed is her illustrated discography, about 45 cds starting back
in '81, including Pizzicatto Five and a host of tribute stuff (T Rex, etc.).
After hanging out at a yakitori place, we all  including the head chef went
to a nearby karaoke room to do some numbers. Somehow I got handed the mike
to sing 'Yesterdays Papers', its fun singing a song that you have absolutely
no idea how the melody goes (not that anyone could tell).
Highlight was the two yes yes ladies singing 'Dancing Queen'.
    Then it was back out to the empty streets to the sound of thunder of an
approaching storm...

Peace, all, as we wait for WWIII.
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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:09:13 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC

Boston remembering WTC ...Seks Bomba had played there, Brother Cleve DJ'd
there with the World Famous Pontani Sisters...I have a picture of my two kids
standing in the Empire State Building staring in awe at the WTC off in the
distance...now a gaping hole......And to think they were a mere 30 years
old..CNN has some video of the first crash. Some firemen in the street just
doing some oddball manhole work looking up at the sound of a too close jet.
Looking back down...Then comes the most commonly uttered phrase that day from
an anonymous onlooker: "Holy fuckin' shit"


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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:02:59 -0400
From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica)NYC-RIP WTC

I do believe I said this myself when I was in my office directly across t=
he
street from Tower 2, in reaction to the second explosion.  That was when =
we made
the decision to shut everything down and get the hell out.  What a mess. =
 I was
on the 11th floor of 130 Cedar Street, the grubby little factory building=
 with
the Amish Market storefront... more than likely the only building in that=

proximity too grubby and ghastly to be affected by such proceedings.

[e-mail] wrote:

> Boston remembering WTC ...Seks Bomba had played there, Brother Cleve DJ=
'd
> there with the World Famous Pontani Sisters...I have a picture of my tw=
o kids
> standing in the Empire State Building staring in awe at the WTC off in =
the
> distance...now a gaping hole......And to think they were a mere 30 year=
s
> old..CNN has some video of the first crash. Some firemen in the street =
just
> doing some oddball manhole work looking up at the sound of a too close =
jet.
> Looking back down...Then comes the most commonly uttered phrase that da=
y from
> an anonymous onlooker: "Holy fuckin' shit"

- --
Peace Out
Choppa Choppa
Bang Bang
Hack=FC Maim=FC
Where's da WUV=99?




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Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:31:01 -0700
From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) enoch light in the wire

Just in case some of you folks missed it: the August 2001 issue of The
Wire -- probably too late, as the new Bjork issue is probably already on the
stands -- has a lovely little tribute essay (by Matmos's Drew Daniel) to
Enoch Light, and how Light's "hyperactive cut-up take on swing offered a Z
axis that opened [Daniel's] musical universe up into three dimensions; gave
it life, colour, humour, motion."

Later,
Ben

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:26:09 -0500
From: Paul Wages <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo"

They used to play this song on Luxuria -- "The Bobo" by Francis Lai.  I've
been keeping an eye out for the soundtrack ever since.  Well, I just saw the
Peter Sellers film last night and noticed that the track wasn't used in the
film at all.  The track I'm thinking of is a vocal version which mentions
"The Girl From Ipanema" in a lyric.  Is this track on the soundtrack LP or a
perhaps only a 7 inch?  I just want to double check before I make an online
purchase.

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:15:21 -0400
From: Carl Howard <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Francis Lai's "The Bobo"

Yes this is absolutely correct!  I also heard the track with vocals any n=
umber
of times on Luxuria.  I got the film on VHS at half.com for maybe 5 bucks=
=2E.. I
found it to be less than one of Sellers' signature roles.  In fact I was
cringing at how bad a film it was.  This was at a time when Sellers would=

simply slap on some brown makeup and do one ethnic character after anothe=
r -
they practically sank his career, according to a biography I saw last yea=
r.
And of course, the Frances Lai theme is only stated in the film
instrumentally.  I am beginning to think that the vocal version we heard =
might
even have been a promotional piece for the film in America, as the vocali=
sts
clearly sound American.  In addition, the lyrics have nothing to do with
Sellers' character... really, as if whomever wrote the lyrics had not act=
ually
seen a copy of the shooting script.

Been missing you in the Yahoo Luxuria Club, Paul!  Well these days, all w=
e talk
about is the War, but...

Paul Wages wrote:

> They used to play this song on Luxuria -- "The Bobo" by Francis Lai.  I=
've
> been keeping an eye out for the soundtrack ever since.  Well, I just sa=
w the
> Peter Sellers film last night and noticed that the track wasn't used in=
 the
> film at all.  The track I'm thinking of is a vocal version which mentio=
ns
> "The Girl From Ipanema" in a lyric.  Is this track on the soundtrack LP=
 or a
> perhaps only a 7 inch?  I just want to double check before I make an on=
line
> purchase.
>
> Fun movie BTW.

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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:24:59 -0400
From: "M.Ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: kahimi / Cowboy Bebop

At 11:55 PM 09/08/2001, William wrote:
>incidentally, the track "wo qui non  coin" on the cowboy bebop blue ost
>makes me think quite a bit of kahimi karie. though its someone named aoi
>tada. i don't know who she is though.

According to a Cowboy Bebop fansite, Aoi Tada is the voice actress who
voices the character Ed in the original Japanese version.


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