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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 22:35:11 -0400
From: cheryls <cheryls@dsuper.net>
Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond
Nat Kone wrote:
>
> There's a Zorn list?!? ... Like how many posts a day? You look in your mailbox and there's 25 little letters all about John Zorn? Anybody over there speculating on whether Marvin Hamlisch is slated for a Great Jewish Composers tribute?
Scary thought, but you never know...
> Is there a John Lurie list?
If anyone knows about a John or Evan Lurie/Lounge Lizards list, I'd
appreciate knowing about it!
cheryl
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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 19:49:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond
How are the Bonds books? Which are the best ones? Suggestions please!
Plus exotica goes beyond just music.
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Tosh Berman
TamTam Books
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Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 23:18:09 EDT
From: Rcbrooksod <Rcbrooksod@aol.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) James Bond
In a message dated 98-05-06 22:51:15 EDT, you write:
<< How are the Bonds books? Which are the best ones? Suggestions please!
Plus exotica goes beyond just music. >>
These are some of my opinions of good Bond books:
Casino Royale (the first)
Moonraker
Diamonds are Forever
Live and Let Die
Thunderball
Goldfinger
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
These are the early one's -- the later ones were softened along with Flemings
post war cynicism. The post Fleming Books written by Gardner as epilogues at
the best. Run through the classics first.
These make for great summer reading -- easy to pick up and put down. I would
suggests the used paperback book stores.
Hope this thread is ok people.
Robert
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Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 07:54:42 -0400
From: "Brian Phillips" <hagar@mindspring.com>
Subject: (exotica) If I knew Nat was coming, I'd have baked a cake...
I wrote:
> >This list is a good thing for people that want to talk about exotica, but
> >since I was born in 1963, I have no historical perspective on
> the albums we
> >discuss. I can, however, look at the Billboard chart positions
> of some of
> >the people we discuss.
To which Nat replied:
> The historical perspective I bring to the records discussed here
> has little or nothing to do with chart positions.
So I say...
That's fine. As Nat said later in his post, it is interesting to me to see
what charted and what did not, which is why I posted what I did. My Uncle
(the one that got me interested in Yma Sumac) said once while playing "Le
Souk" by Dave Brubeck, "Everyone I knew at college had a copy of "Jazz Goes
to College". That is the perspective that I cannot provide and a chart may
or may not reflect the popularity of this record. I personally don't use
the charts to say, "Well, that must have been _____'s best album, look how
it sold". To quote the computer in the movie "Rollerball", I'm a stat
freak, myself". Let's just say I rely on the kindness of strangers before
and after a good browse session. It doesn't take many repetitions of the
Eagles' oeuvre to make one a niche consumer. It is nice to see the men and
women who left behind great music get appreciated by others. Music business
is business and business needs sales. The recognition of this (as good or
bad Billboard's methods were/are) I find interesting and was not meant to
dictate taste in the group., or my particular.
Further on, Nat said...
"...as it's about finding as many records as possible which I once would
have HATED - as much for what they stood for as
for any musical qualities - and finding out what I think of them now."
This phenom never ceases to amaze me. My early (8 or 9 years old!) dislike
of Billie Holiday came from the fact that my father hogged the stereo to
listen to all four sides "The Billie Holiday Story", not quality of music.
I'd like another crack at Orquestra Almendra for the same reason! However,
there are some that fall into the good category (Les Baxter), yet there are
still the records that I still cannot deal with (as always, Jo Basile's "My
World" and "Do the Hula" by various artists or Thurston Knudson).
For all y'all:
What is the hippest record that you found in your parent's collection,
exotica-wise? For me, it would be "Le Sacre du Savage" de Les Baxter, a 10"
LP.
*Ding* Cake's done,
Brian Phillips
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Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 05:52:54 PDT
From: "Ben Waugh" <kahuna77@hotmail.com>
Subject: (exotica) Sy Zentner
Yes, Sy Zentner! I just finished making a compilation tape last evening
and capped it with a couple of Zentner tunes: Dragons and Demons and his
version of Tiki (anyone know what Baxter lp this appeared on? Or any CD
comps. it may have been included on? Great song). Although I can't
recall the name of the lp, it is really quite good. Zentner, I believe,
started out in Billy May's band.
>I also love more obscurer stuff like Milton Delugg