I love it, won't talk you out of it. Great cuts on it.
Colleen
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:26:10 -0400
From: "R. Schultz" <randy.schultz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mondo Exotica
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:24:52 -0500 "Colleen Pyles" <colleen7@ireland.com>
writes:
>
> I love it, won't talk you out of it. Great cuts on it.
It's kind of lame, I know, but I need something to get me going in the
right direction. At some point I'll probably branch off into
single-artist compilations and then make the big move toward
single-artist original albums. At that point I will be broke and my wife
will have divorced me.
Randy
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:49:25 EDT
From: Dj45rpm@aol.com
Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc.
<- "Business Unusual" comp. From 1978: throbbing gristle, robert rental, the
cabs etc. some great stuff here>
You found this at a thrift store?!? Now that's what I call a score! I remember finding a bunch of early experimental stuff (Zoviet France, TG, obscure German indrustrial comps) at a garage sale pre-eBay (ah those were the days...), but that was the only time in 1* years of garage-saling/thrifting. You did good.
- -DavidH
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:59:15 -0500
From: "Colleen Pyles" <colleen7@ireland.com>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try..
az wrote:
Like I say...
"You're always in the mood for easy listening".
or
"When you can't figure out what kind of mood you're in, turn on some
easy
listening."
or
"Until you figure what kind of music you really want to listen to,
turn on
some easy listening".
************************8
This is what I do too, AZ. I like the lounge./exotica/easy listening
almost all of the time...it fits any mood, provided it's divided into
2 catagories, slow and easy and peppy.
Colleen
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:59:23 -0500
From: "Colleen Pyles" <colleen7@ireland.com>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try..
az wrote:
Like I say...
"You're always in the mood for easy listening".
or
"When you can't figure out what kind of mood you're in, turn on some
easy
listening."
or
"Until you figure what kind of music you really want to listen to,
turn on
some easy listening".
************************8
This is what I do too, AZ. I like the lounge./exotica/easy listening
almost all of the time...it fits any mood, provided it's divided into
2 catagories, slow and easy and peppy.
Colleen
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:07:46 -0400
From: "R. Schultz" <randy.schultz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Second try..
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:59:15 -0500 "Colleen Pyles" <colleen7@ireland.com>
writes:
> This is what I do too, AZ. I like the lounge./exotica/easy
> listening
> almost all of the time...it fits any mood, provided it's divided
> into
> 2 catagories, slow and easy and peppy.
Yep, and it's always a good excuse to drink. There are two categories of
cocktails: slow and easy and peppy. Observe:
Slow and Easy: Martini
Peppy: Daiquiri
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:13:48 -0500
From: "Colleen Pyles" <colleen7@ireland.com>
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Mondo Exotica
Randy, I started my whole collection of music with comps like this.
A lot of this music I had in my head and couldn't remember the name
or artist. You can't just humm a tune at the record store. When I
found exotic comps, I was thrilled. Now I look for vinyl of the
originals..why?..I don't know. It's like a holy grail. Plus
everyone on this list finds neat stuff...I want to too!
Colleen
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:53:18 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?
At 06:33 PM 6/21/01 +0200, Moritz R wrote:
>
>This is definitely 100% true. To me the distinction between "serious" art
and "light" entertainment is an old-fashioned one. So called serious art
often enough just uses theoretical justifications of its own absolute value
simply because it wouldn't attract anybody otherwise. Pop and entertainment
on the other hand take their bath in the masses and have to prove their
value by sales,
Sorry. As much as I'd love to obliterate the lofty ideas of art, I can't
join you in your warm bath. I believe that there is such a thing as "art"
and dogs playing cards or big eyed girls on black velvet ain't it.
I've played this game with friends. "Is that art?" they ask.
"Why is that art and that not art?", they chide.
Fine. It's not easy. And you feel like the kind of person you don't like,
if you try to draw the line. You feel like one of those self-appointed
arbiters of taste.
It's an uncomfortable feeling. But that doesn't mean the distinctions
don't exist.
This probably makes me some kind of elitist but I do believe that there're
such things as "truth" and "beauty"
(This argument is actually at the centre of my "next film" if it ever comes
to be.)
It's harder for me to make "art distinctions" when it comes to music.
Except for Celine Dion of course, the audio equivalent of a silk flower on
a Hallmark card.
If you're saying that "25 million people can't be wrong" and therefore
Celine Dion and McDonalds are better art than John Coltrane, then yeah we
have an argument.
It would be interesting to me to try and discuss this specifically within
the realm of exotica and lounge music. But I'm not sure where to begin.
Let me think about it for a second.
AZ
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:53:47 -0400
From: "m.ace" <mace@ookworld.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) got Kitsch? Never Kitsch!
At 06:02 PM 06/21/2001, Mo wrote:
>this list is really strange: I get this Re: Kitsch mail by Ross, but I
>definitely never got a Kitsch mail before that. Does this mean, I don't
>get certain exotica mails or did you carry a private conversation to the
>list at a certain point?
Ross may have simply altered the original subject line when replying to an
on-list post. Sometimes, as a thread drifts, the original subject line
becomes increasingly irrelevant.
I have been known to corrupt the subject on occasion.
- --m.ace
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:09:42 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mondo Exotica
At 01:26 PM 6/21/01 -0400, R. Schultz wrote:
>
>It's kind of lame, I know, but I need something to get me going in the
>right direction. At some point I'll probably branch off into
>single-artist compilations and then make the big move toward
>single-artist original albums. At that point I will be broke and my wife
>will have divorced me.
Not necessarily. Unless it's about space and not money. There are
exceptions but you should be able to buy three or four (at least) original
albums for the price of a comp.
It's too bad I got rid of most of my records. I could have sold you an
instant "exotica/lounge" collection and you could begin your new single
life right away.
But I still have about sixty or so for sale. Five bucks each? Ten for a
few of them? After all, it's not about the music, it's about the object.
AZ
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:59:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Waugh <sophisticatedsavage@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?
As much I agree with you, it always comes down to
taste (and that "Truth/beauty" thing was, ironically,
an ugly, clumsy way to mess up an otherwise
well-wrought poem, but this is a parenthetical aside):
those McDonalds piranha and Britney fans at best might
hear you out and politely consider your faith and all
of aesthetic theory utterly irrelevent. Does that make
them wrong? Are they merely blithering stiffs and
juveniles shorn of any sense of cultural continuity
and eternal values by a virulent consumer culture
which stresses change, novelty, the immediate and
devalues memory, sensibility, etc (like a prehensile
tail or gills in mammals)....
If so, then what is true and beautiful becomes the
property of "those who know", the project of the
aristos.
I don't have a problem with that. but it ain't very
democratic.
As far as exotica goes, such arbitration is the
mission of our own little Hellfire club.
- --- alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com> wrote:
> Sorry. As much as I'd love to obliterate the lofty
> ideas of art, I can't
> join you in your warm bath. I believe that there is
> such a thing as "art"
> and dogs playing cards or big eyed girls on black
> velvet ain't it.
> This probably makes me some kind of elitist but I do
> believe that there're
> such things as "truth" and "beauty"
> (This argument is actually at the centre of my "next
> film" if it ever comes
> to be.)
.........
> It's harder for me to make "art distinctions" when
> it comes to music.
> Except for Celine Dion of course, the audio
> equivalent of a silk flower on
> a Hallmark card.
>
> If you're saying that "25 million people can't be
> wrong" and therefore
> Celine Dion and McDonalds are better art than John
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:44:35 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc.
At 07:17 PM 6/21/01 -0700, basic hip wrote:
.>And you even got a Bozo record. The capitol record reader with two 78's or
>the LP reissue?
>Bozo Under The Sea was my very first memory of listening to a record. Gotta
>soft spot for it :)
Yes Mr. Brouwer's record haul was impressive. So impressive that I was
struck dumb with jealousy. The fact that it occurred in my general home
area - more or less - made me even more jealous.
So I said nothing.
But now you mention Bozo.
Are there many Bozo records?
I have "Dream along with Bozo" starring Larry Harmon.
Was Larry Harmon the "real" Bozo?
Or some knockoff.
I've never played it. I just picked it up because a guy in my film did a
hilarious analysis of the record which basically concluded that Bozo was a
closet pedophile. It centers around a cut on the record called "Bozo's
Pocket Rocket".
"Reach into my pockets kids and shake hands with my pocket rocket".
Or words to that effect anyway.
I did play that cut when I got it. But now you've made me inspect it more
closely only to discover that the orchestra is conducted by Don Ralke.
Maybe I'll have to play it now.
AZ
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:51:03 -0400
From: alan zweig <azed@pathcom.com>
Subject: Re: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc.
At 11:25 PM 6/21/01 EDT, DJJimmyBee@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>In a message dated 6/21/1 9:08:51 PM, basichip@home.com wrote:
>
>>> - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. I
>>> flipped when I found this at the back of some junk shop.
>
>>You found this in a junk shop?
>>Incredible find at $100, not to mention the buck or so you paid for it.
>
>OK I was hoping it wouldn't come to this, but who ever thought it wouldn't?
>On the purchase of "The Way Out Record For Children"... Who believes that
>the record was found for a dollar? Who doesn't?
Oh Jimmy, ye of little faith. It's a record for children. Yeah it just so
happens to have been made by a guy who has tremendous interest to a small
group of collectors. But still, your average record seller wouldn't know
this, let alone a guy in a thrift store. I played a Bruce Haack CD once
for a very knowledgeable used record retailer and he'd never heard of him.
If the record said "Early Moog Synthesizer" or "very rare record!" I could
see your point. But if it says "children", it's probably going to end up
in the pile with the other children's records.
I know people who would pay ten bucks or more for a Little Marcy record
but that doesn't mean they suddenly disappear from the shelves of thrift
stores.
It's not just that I believe Mr. Brouwer. It's that I can imagine seeing a
record like that in a thrift store.
AZ
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:07:59 EDT
From: Dj45rpm@aol.com
Subject: (exotica) Speaking of Jazz-n-Exotica...
..I just picked up a sealed CD of Dave Brubeck's 1964 release "Jazz
Impressions of Japan", and was just wondering if anyone else is familar
enough will it to say whether it's good jazz, good "exotica", good (if
unintentional) jazz-exotica "fusion" (such as some of Cal Tjader's stuff), or
if it's to toxic I shouldn't even bother breaking the wrapper. Here's the
track listing if that helps:
Tokyo Traffic
Rising Sun
Taki's Theme (From the CBS-TV series "Mr. Broadway")
Fujiyama
Zen is When
The City is Crying
Osaka Blues
Koto Song
Thanks,
DavidH
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:10:14 +0200
From: Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) It's the music that matters
Edward schrieb:
>
> Good is just not the same as enjoyable.
>
Yes and no. Any musical or artistic or other experience is embedded in a complex context of time and space, personal data, historic situation, mood, comparison, pre-occupation, fear etc. etc. It is only natural, that even people who apparently share the same taste yet come to controversal ratings of seemingly same things. Because due to context these same things really are not the same. It is very hard if not impossible to see a thing "as is". And only to see a thing "as is" would mean to see "the truth". But we can't escape our memories. We can try to become free from the known, but I guess we will never make it.
It's not only the music that matters, but also the listener.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:10:47 +0200
From: Moritz R <tiki@netsurf.de>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?
Ben Waugh schrieb:
> I don't have a problem with that. but it ain't very democratic.
I'm so grateful you make this connection between democracy and art. pop is indeed the art of democracy, whereas the so called high or serious art is really the art of the bourgeoisie.
