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exotica-digest        Thursday, June 21 2001        Volume 02 : Number 1000



In This Digest:

Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own
(exotica) Re: Kitsch?
Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?
Re: (exotica) Second try..
Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?
Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?
(exotica) WorldWideRetro
Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?
(exotica) jeff bridges
(exotica) Shock the Monkey
(exotica) list question..
Re: (exotica) Shock the Monkey
(exotica) It's the music that matters
Re: (exotica) list question..
Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday.....
Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday.....
Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp?
Re: (exotica) Harkit Records
(exotica) Austin TX events: WAXPLOITATION!
(exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc.
(exotica) Mondo Exotica
(exotica) the missing 18 minutes of exotica
Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday.....
(exotica) Paris Blues
Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?
Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Never got Kitsch!
Re: (exotica) list question..

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:32:22 -0500
From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) a few recent finds of my own

> >Sounds in the Night (Bethlehem)
> >Russ Garcia

Sounds In the Night also contains "Wow", a quintessential
example (to my ears, anyway) of "space age bachelor pad music".

Hey, Ford.  Is your copy of Sounds in the Night mono or stereo?
I'd always heard this LP was only issued in mono, then later I found
a sampler LP from the label containing tracks from Sounds in
stereo.  Would love to learn the entire LP is available in stereo, too.


Darrell Brogdon
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:11:09 -0400
From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?

pb wrote:
>there is not a
>scintilla of doubt in my mind that when enoch light made the percussion
>sides, or jackie gleason recorded 'music for lovers only',  that they did
>so in total earnestness and without a trace of cynicism.   at the same
>time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the
>moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in
>on a new thing?


The whole question of whether we should "take this music seriously"
or whether the original musicians "took this music seriously" is one
that I think gets some people tied up in knots more than it should.

My sense is that there were some very busy studio musicians and
show-business veterans floating around back then, and they probably
wouldn't have lasted too long if they went into the studio every time
thinking "this is crap, and when I get home I am going to need a
shower." My sense is that they probably felt, "OK, this is some
pretty commercial stuff here, but lets have a go at it."

"Tiki" Bob Brooks (lurking on our list) has had the pleasure of
spending some time with Martin Denny--who apparently refers to some
of his music without regret as "kind of kitschy." But just because he
was fully aware that there were elements of Theater and make-believe
to his music, I suspect he still felt genuine pride in his
musicianship and in making audiences happy.

I always like to make the comparison to Film Noir, or Art Deco
architecture. Both were originally pop genres, with a healthy dollop
of fantasy--not taken seriously by the arbiters of High Taste in
their time. But in retrospect we can appreciate their exuberant style
and originality, without irony.

Now, actually I have some serious questions about the whole idea of
"Pure" art as opposed to commercial art. It may be that a few people
are in a position to make art without regard to whether it will ever
sell, but I expect they are a small minority--and as others have
pointed out, that is no guarantee they have talent or anything to
say. Whereas people with talent and something to say may have a
family to feed too. And even the un-commercial artists may be
motivated by some other external factors, like wanting to get the
cute girl in the beret to sleep with them, which are no less impure.

Also, even when something was created with the most crassly
commercial motivations, you know--eventually the statute of
limitations runs out!  No one talks about Baroque music any more in
terms of what court intrigue led to certain composers being up or
down--even though that might have seemed highly significant back at
the time. Eventually you just have to listen to the music and say,
"is this a piece that resonates with me in some way?"

I have a theory that *because* exotica music was so often finely
engineered for pop appeal, that in some ways it's a BETTER mirror of
its age than some hypothetical Pure Art. Now whether that distilled
essence of 1959  or 1969 speaks to you will depend on your own level
of nostalgia (or perhaps a warped anti-nostalgia) for that time
period. But it makes it something worth preserving and keeping in
circulation. . .

cheers,



  --Ross

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:20:38 -0400
From: "R. Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:11:09 -0400 Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
> The whole question of whether we should "take this music seriously"
>
> or whether the original musicians "took this music seriously" is one
>
> that I think gets some people tied up in knots more than it should.

Well, my take is first of all, why take any music seriously? It's
entertainment.

I personally like the fact that you can listen to this music without any
need to be reverent or feel you need to somehow work hard to understand
its nuance. To me, this music transports me away to different places
around the globe, to times that I was not fortunate enough to live in. To
a Hawaii that was not overdeveloped and you could walk along quiet
beaches. To swinging California bachelor pads, drinking a martini and
wearing a skinny tie. Why is this music any different than a Jane Austen
novel that takes you away to another era? You know that song "Come Fly
With Me" by Sinatra? This music lets you live that lifestyle. Put a CD on
and you're on your private jet, a martini in hand, heading out to a
promising destination. Work doesn't exist, just good times.

There is also a functional aspect to this music. Let's take "elevator
music." I am not using the term derisively, by the way. But, elevator
music is functional and does its job well. I think all music is in some
ways functional. You don't think that guys like Bob Dylan didn't, at some
level, like the resulting power, sex and fame that their music gave them?
Was it a means to an end for them? Perhaps.

Just my .02 and I'll be shaking up a martini right now, thank you.

Randy


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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:34:00 +0100
From: SH <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Second try..

> at the same
> >time, can there be any doubt that some (many?) of the space-agers, the
> >moog-ers, the exoticians and the bongo players were attempting to cash in
> >on a new thing?

Well, they could have chosen Polka or Country or anything to cash in on. I
think their types of ideas led them to cash in by producing exotica records.
And the ideas are fun, despite the money that was made. Not as funny as weirdo
avantgarde, though.

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:43:45 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?

At 12:11 PM 6/20/01 -0400, Ross Orr wrote:
>
>I always like to make the comparison to Film Noir, or Art Deco
>architecture. Both were originally pop genres, with a healthy dollop
>of fantasy--not taken seriously by the arbiters of High Taste in
>their time. But in retrospect we can appreciate their exuberant style
>and originality, without irony.

I don't know anything about art deco but I do know a bit about film noir
and I think that's an excellent analogy.
I made a short film a little over ten years ago which was partly an hommage
to film noir.  It was never stated.  I would never be so crass and obvious.
 But the protagonist clearly saw himself as a character in a film noir.
We had a lot of fun lighting and framing these shots you would have to call
"highly stylized".  Everybody had fun.
We all thought that it was kind of silly and kind of cool at the same time.
 At least I did.  There are a couple of shots in the film that I still
grimace at.  A couple of shots that embarrass me.
Not that anyone else has ever pointed them out.
Why am I talking about me?
I guess that's the only way I can relate to this question of what the
musicians thought when they went into a "commercial" session.
I think they thought "This is shit.  Let's have some fun"

I don't think it matters what they thought.  The stuff I love, the Now
Sound and the groovy soundtracks, I blame them on the producers and
arrangers and writers more than the musicians.  That's not to take anything
away from the musicians.
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that guys like Mancini wrote their
scores with certain musicians in mind.  Maybe there would be no "Party"
soundtrack if Mancini hadn't heard Bill Plummer play his sitar somewhere.
I have no idea whether Bill Plummer thought he was Ravi Shankar.
George Harrison probably did and he wasn't even Bill Plummer.

I don't know what anyone thought but I assume they ALL thought "If they
liked that, maybe they'll like this".

They probably thought a lot of it was crap.  They were jazz musicians and
jazz musicians often think that jazz is better than anything popular.  So I
assume they thought "It would be better if it were jazz".
And that's why they tried to jazz up their playing a bit.
And that probably came through.

I agree with Ross, I think.  Film noir is an extremely stylized, fake,
phoney, UNreal "genre".  All that darkness, all those cliches, the venetian
blinds making patterns on the wall.  It's hilarious.
But I love it and I never think of it that way.  I never laugh at it.

(Though I do sometimes laugh at the modern attempts to pay hommage to it.)

I'm going to try and see the Cinematic Orchestra tonight.  It's free.  On
Friday Pharoah Sanders is playing for free.  On the weekend I think it's
Jack Costanzo.  Or maybe I've already missed him.

I just remembered that.

AZ



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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:51:59 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?

At 12:20 PM 6/20/01 -0400, R. Schultz wrote:
To me, this music transports me away to different places
>around the globe, to times that I was not fortunate enough to live in. To
>a Hawaii that was not overdeveloped and you could walk along quiet
>beaches. To swinging California bachelor pads, drinking a martini and
>wearing a skinny tie. Why is this music any different than a Jane Austen
>novel that takes you away to another era?

I'm not arguing but that's a curious comparison.
The music we call "swinging bachelor pad" music isn't ABOUT swinging
bachelors in their pads.  It's become associated with swinging bachelors.
It was marketed to men who wanted to imagine that they were swinging
bachelors in their pads even though they were unswinging husbands in their
rec rooms.
I don't know what I imagine when I hear this kind of music.  Maybe I do
imagine swinging bachelors in their pads.  I don't think I imagine that I
am one of those swinging bachelors when I hear it (although technically
speaking I'm probably closer to a swinging bachelor in his pad than most
consumers of this music and if I continue to lose weight at the pace I'm on
now, I may fit into swinging bachelor duds before I hit fifty.)
Anyway I just found the Jane Austen comparison funny.
But if you hear that music and think of yourself as a swinging bachelor, I
don't question it.  I envy it even.

AZ



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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:55:54 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WorldWideRetro

A website of possible interest:

http://worldwideretro.com/

Perhaps the millionth website with that googie boomerang pattern background.


- --m.ace



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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:02:25 -0400
From: "R. Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:51:59 -0400 alan  zweig <[e-mail]> writes:
> I'm not arguing but that's a curious comparison.
> The music we call "swinging bachelor pad" music isn't ABOUT
> swinging
> bachelors in their pads.  It's become associated with swinging
> bachelors.
> It was marketed to men who wanted to imagine that they were
> swinging
> bachelors in their pads even though they were unswinging husbands in
> their
> rec rooms.

Agreed. Just like Arnold Schwarzenegger movies aren't marketed toward
musclebound arms experts. They're marketed toward people who want to
think of themselves in that situation, if only for a little while.

The point I was trying to make is that this music is a way of trying on
different lifestyles/situations for the price of an album/CD. In much the
same way a movie like "Dr. No" allows me to head to Jamaica in the 60s, a
science fiction movie allows me to vault forward into the future for a
few hours, or a novel like "Pride and Prejudice" allows you to imagine
living the privileged life of an English family in the 19th century.
They're cheap tickets to lives not our own.

As far as fancying myself a swinging bachelor, I wouldn't necessarily
want to be one during that era. I just like the accoutrements of it, the
furniture, the cocktail sets..etc. In fact, if I were back in those days,
I would want my wife with me to enjoy the whole thing. I've said here
before that I see pictures of my parents as young marrieds back in the
late 50s and see the photos of the parties they had with the men in the
slim-cut suits and the women in their dresses and they're trying out
their shaker on new cocktails and I have a longing for that time.

Randy


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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 15:26:28 -0400
From: alan  zweig <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) jeff bridges

On the "John and Mary" soundtrack there's a tune called "Lost in Space"
which sounds a lot like a Jim Morrison imitation but is attributed to Jeff
Bridges.  He also wrote the tune on a soundtrack otherwise written by
Quincy Jones.  The actor Jeff Bridges is one of my favorites and I do
remember that he put out a CD recently.  Then again, he was pretty young
when this soundtrack came out.  Not to say he was too young to sing.  But I
think this came out before his first acting roles.  Then again, maybe
Quincy knew him through his Dad.
Maybe it is him.
Anyone know?

AZ



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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:34:49 +0200
From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Shock the Monkey

APES INSTRUMENTAL TO ROCKER GABRIEL'S NEW BAND

By BRAD HUNTER
New York Post
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

June 18, 2001 -- Rock 'n' roll innovator Peter Gabriel is going ape over his
new band. The founder of Genesis hasn't put out a new album in five years,
but he has been jamming at Georgia State University in Atlanta.

The rock legend plays keyboards, and so does his new backing band: a dozen
bonobo apes from the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

Gabriel told London's Financial Times that while his new group doesn't
exactly jam together, they are feeling each other out musically.

And he insists his new mates have a keen sense of rhythm and melody.

"It is a little like working with a child," Gabriel said, adding that the
apes understand about 4,000 English words and recognize 400 pictograms.

But, Gabriel's gifted apes may soon be split up and dispatched to different
zoos and facilities for research purposes.

While the band may not play on, their eccentric leader believes they should
stay in touch. And Gabriel is hoping to use computer networks - or "Apenet,"
as he's dubbed it - to help his primate bandmates keep in contact.

The idea of Apenet is to create an Internet-based network for the bonobo
apes to "talk" with each other. Gabriel believes they could touch on the
screen, activate Webcams and virtually communicate.





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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:40:05 -0700
From: PjB <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) list question..

..... is it by group approval that the list is set up to send replies to
the original poster, rather than to the group at large?  i have been on
other lists like that, and i can never understand why they are so
configured. if you want to follow up on a thread, you have to open the
original post, copy the text you wish to include in your follow-up, close
that message window, fish out a new blank email, address it to the list,
paste the text you copied into the new post....... it's a lot of hoops to
jump thru, and it is a simple matter to change it so that when you hit
'reply' in order to follow up on a post, it goes out to the entire list.
it would seem to me that most replies to a given post are intended for the
whole group, but maybe not...?

is it set the way you all want it, or is that at the whim of the list owner?

.02
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 17:44:24 -0400
From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Shock the Monkey

At 11:34 PM 6/20/2001 +0200, Arjan Plug wrote:

>APES INSTRUMENTAL TO ROCKER GABRIEL'S NEW BAND

Hmph!  Next thing you'll be telling me that Glenn Gould used to try to
conduct elephants...

Suggest that Gabriel's next album be called "Ape" not "Up",
Brian Phillips




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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:27:55 -0700
From: bigshot <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) It's the music that matters

exotica-digest wrote:

>the above got me wondering... do most people here  enjoy exotic music in
>the same way that you enjoy springsteen if a rocker or herbie nichols if
>you're a jazz fan?  ..or is  a certain affectation necessary in the process
>of listening?  in other words, is it the strange-ness of the records that
>appeals to you, or the music itself?  with me, it is the former,
>generally..... although there are certain exotic sides that appeal to the
>musician in me.

I enjoy it in the exact same way. The thing I like most about the
exotica/percussion genre is the tightness of the playing, inspired
arrangements and the spontaneous sounding performances. The guys who
arranged and played on these records honed their chops in big bands.
When the big band era came to an end, they naturally moved into the
sessions end of things. That's why so many of the albums we talk
about here swing so well. They had great guys playing and arranging.

Novelty wears off. Really good music lasts.

See ya
Steve

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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:26:21 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) list question..

>..... is it by group approval that the list is set up to send replies to
>the original poster, rather than to the group at large?  i have been on
>other lists like that, and i can never understand why they are so
>configured. if you want to follow up on a thread, you have to open the
>original post, copy the text you wish to include in your follow-up, close
>that message window, fish out a new blank email, address it to the list,
>paste the text you copied into the new post....... it's a lot of hoops to
>jump thru, and it is a simple matter to change it so that when you hit
>'reply' in order to follow up on a post, it goes out to the entire list.
>it would seem to me that most replies to a given post are intended for the
>whole group, but maybe not...?

I don't know what e-mail program you're using, but all I do is wipe the
poster's address out of the "TO" field and pop in the list address from my
address book. Some people skip the first step and just pop the list address
into the "CC" field. Try it, it's fun!

But anyway, long, long ago, when Lazlo was still "in the building" there
used to be regular questions about this. And eventually he gave in and
switched it over (and announced it). And the list was loaded with private
e-mails accidently sent to the whole list. When they didn't stop, he
switched it back over. And provided a link to someone else's technical
explanation (from a list-owner's HOWTO or something) of why it was a bad
idea, for more reasons than that alone. It was pretty convincing. You can
find this episode somewhere deep in the list archives:

http://www.xmission.com/pub/lists/exotica/archive/

Somewhere back around '95 or '96, maybe.

Personally, I prefer it like it is. I don't have a problem with it, and it
helps prevent me from being a public idiot (well, for one reason at least).
And if I want to send a private reply, it's automatic... rather than
extracting the poster's address from the sometimes cryptic header.


m.ace  [e-mail]
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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:26:19 -0400
From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday.....

At 09:38 AM 6/15/01 -0400, Nate wrote:
>Everyone have a great weekend - and Alan, is your documentary available on
VHS yet?!?!!?
>
VHS?!? I want DVD with all the extra features - director's commentary,
outtakes, bloopers, the "making of" documentary of the documentary.
The works.

Lou




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Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:39:24 -0600
From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday.....

Lou Smith wrote:

> VHS?!? I want DVD with all the extra features - director's commentary,
> outtakes, bloopers, the "making of" documentary of the documentary.
> The works.

that's kind of what the film already is.

mike




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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:18:59 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Combustible Edison Comp?

on 6/18/01 9:30 AM, Edward at [e-mail] wrote:

>
> What about the Monopoly Queen/ Let's Keep It Friendly  7"?
> I've been nagging for it at the local record shops for years now.
> These poor guys need a break.

oh yeah, I forgot about that one. It's not a CE record, it's Lisa (Suckdog)
Carver's mom, with various CE members playing on it. Pretty limited edition
as I recall, maybe 500 - 1000 pressed. Another rarity is a track by The
Millionaire and MIss Banquette that came with a magazine...a 7" or a flexi
or something. I forget, and I don't have a copy of it.

br cleve



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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:21:55 -0400
From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Harkit Records

on 6/18/01 7:05 AM, Charles Moseley at [e-mail] wrote:


>  Modesty Blaise (which
> apparently is different depending on UK or US copy)

I recently borrowed the US version from fellow list memeber Peter Ledebur,
and it's a very different album than the British one that I own. There are
10 cuts on the US, 13 on the UK, and about 5 of those overlap. The US one
has more go-go type numbers and is probably the better of the two. The theme
song is the same on both, although the US version is credited to Jonathan &
David; the US version has a groovier closing credits number as well.
Downside of the US version is that it clocks in at a dismal 28 minutes.

br cleve



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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:34:57
From: "Daniel Shiman" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Austin TX events: WAXPLOITATION!

Good day, Exotica folks.  Beyond Mimi, I don't know how many of you number
yourselves as Austin-ites, but I thought I'd send this out...

There are 4 of us DJ'ing.  If you see a skinny guy with red hair playing
boogaloo and/or funky jazz records, that's me, by crackey, so don't hesitate
to introduce yourself.

Should be a swingin' affair.

- -Dan

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- -- Friday, June 22, 8 pm - 2 am @ Ruta Maya, 4th and Lavaca, downtown Austin
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On Friday, June 22, the WAXPLOITATION! DJ collective will return to Ruta
Maya with some 6 uninterrupted hours of sweaty, soul-sending funk, churning
Hammond grooves, and hand-clapping boogaloos, delivered to you in the
tradition of the great Sound System DJ collectives of Jamaica.

DJ's Jeff, GregMost, Little Danny, and Noel have spent countless years of
their lives in odd corners of the globe, dirtying their fingers and seeking
out THE PENULTIMATE GROOVE.  And on Friday, from 8 pm onwards, they will be
spinning for you their most treasured slabs of vintage 60's and 70's vinyl
in a great greasy rump-shaking feast of %100 ALL-NATURAL SOUL SOUND.

WAXPLOITATION! does not provide some watered-down sound for reading your
Wall Street Journal by, nor does it suffer fools gladly.  Rather, it will
force a peculiar mesmerizing state of mind and SOUL upon you, one that will
compel you to spring to your feet, reach your hands to the sky, and,
overwhelmed with the burning GROOVE, let yourself go with an ecstatic shout
of "AMEN!!".

AMEN!!
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:35:47 -0000
From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) some Thrift Store finds, etc.

For those who like reading what others have been grabbing I thought I'd post
the following list of rescued vinyl. A good deal of it I got on a recent
camping trip up to northern Ontario; my girlfriend was kind enough to let me
indulge my habit at junk shops en route.

- - "Betwixt and Between" by J & K, on the CTI label from the early
70's (anyone know anything about this?  the music is good, quite
soundtrack-ish in places and has that classic 70's CTI Label sound
[hell, I even like early Deodato])

- - "Fritz the Cat" OST. Scored this at a flea market. Not bad 70's jazzy
stuff. Worth getting.

- - "The Way Out Record For Children" by Bruce Haack and Miss Nelson. I
flipped when I found this at the back of some junk shop. And it's in fine
condition too. Has this been reissued in its entirety?

- - "Ready Now" by The Musical Story Man. Only 10 cents for this but it ain't
worth much more. It's a christian kiddie story record the best part of which
is a solo the old geyser plays on a saw (!) with this queasy-intestinal soft
organ music in the background.

- - "Nuclear War 1984?" by Robin Armstrong, from 1975. This is fantastic
actually. Armstong was a Jeane Dixon type astrologer and soothsayer, and the
whole record here is him making grim predictions about the future with this
strange moog doodling in the background (by the Mills-Cockell guy from
"Syrinx"). There's an AMAZING picture of robin on the rear sleeve which has
to be seen to be believed.

- - "Business Unusual" comp. From 1978: throbbing gristle, robert rental, the
cabs etc. some great stuff here.

- - "Mon Nom Est Personne" OST by Ennio Morricone. It's missing the sleeve but
is in remarkably good shape. It didn't do much for me though.

- - "The Latin Sound Of Henry Mancini" . yep. I like this.

I got a whole pile of kiddie records at a thrift store here in town and they
are (unbelievably) in excellent shape: "Quick Draw McGraw OST"; "Grimm's
Fairy Tales by the Hanky Panky Players; "Bozo Under the Sea" (a weird one);
Walt Disney's Sounds Of The Haunted House; a Dr Seuss Record; a Bugs Bunny
Record; a "Tom and Jerry Storytime" record.

The following I found much of on a recent trip to Montreal and Quebec City.
They're mostly from used record stores but were priced very reasonably.

- - "The Glory Stompers" OST (has some good tracks)

- - "Rock and Other Four Letter Words", from 1968 I think. (a completely nuts
hippie-psych-experimental lp with lots of samples and tape-loops. Parts of
it are awful, parts are great).

- - "Sophisticated Funk" by Jack McDuff. Good music. Unbelieavable cover.

- - "Cinemagic Sounds" by Richard Hayman. Primo 'boring elevator music'.
   *I* like it at least.

- - "Music Used In Many Popular Television Commercials", on Folkways, from
1974. Basically a library lp of commercial jingle music, some of which ain't
bad.

- - "Outer Space/ Inner Mind" by Leonard Nimoy. a Spock double album from the
70's.

- - "Amazing New Electronic Pop Sounds of jj Perrey". happy to find this.

- - "On The Corner" by Miles Davis.

- - "Famous Monsters Speak". lots of monster voices and sound effects. nuts.

on-line I recently bought: "Right-Through" by Ron Geesin. It's a gem.

so that pretty well exhausts it for now. I like to read what others are
getting so keep 'em coming.
jb
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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:06:23 -0400
From: "R. Schultz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mondo Exotica

I'm gonna buy Mondo Exotica on Amazon this afternoon. Last chance for
anyone to talk me out of it!

Randy


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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:20:18 -0400
From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the missing 18 minutes of exotica

Now here's a funny thing.

I've been spelunking in the list archives, looking for The Great Desert
Island Disc Flamewar of June 1997.

Why? Because I recall it as the funniest episode I've ever seen on here.
Stupid and ridiculous, but funny. Those who were also on hand may not
agree, I suppose.

But that's something of a moot point, for I see that it's been excised from
the record! The posts from approximately June 3 to June 15, 1997 have been
neatly wiped away.

I know that episode really annoyed Lazlo. He must have cut it right out at
some point.

Odd.

Does anyone out there happen to have it preserved on their own hard drive?

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:44:10 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring yourself a smile this Friday.....

Lou Smith schrieb:

> At 09:38 AM 6/15/01 -0400, Nate wrote:
> >Everyone have a great weekend - and Alan, is your documentary available on
> VHS yet?!?!!?
> >
> VHS?!? I want DVD with all the extra features - director's commentary,
> outtakes, bloopers, the "making of" documentary of the documentary.
> The works.

I know some counter examples. On the DVD of Gladiator f.i. there was a good docu about the Roman games.  The outtakes and director's comments often are interesting, at least if you have a deeper interest in the whole process of filmmaking. Plus: DVDs offer subtitles for those of us who are not graced to be born in the land of the free.


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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:02:12 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Paris Blues

Saw "Paris Blues" the other day, starring Paul Newman and Sidney Poitier as two americans trying to make it in the jazz scene of Paris in the early 60s. What flipped me out was one long sequence with Louis Armstrong and band entering that jazz club and playing a wild jam session with the others. Absolutely crazy. This must be the best jazz sequence I've ever seen in a film. Nice film anyway.

Mo

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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:33:57 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch?

Ross Orr schrieb:

> I have a theory that *because* exotica music was so often finely
> engineered for pop appeal, that in some ways it's a BETTER mirror of
> its age than some hypothetical Pure Art.

This is definitely 100% true. To me the distinction between "serious" art and "light" entertainment is an old-fashioned one. So called serious art often enough just uses theoretical justifications of its own absolute value simply because it wouldn't attract anybody otherwise. Pop and entertainment on the other hand take their bath in the masses and have to prove their value by sales, which is a good prove, because nobody would waste precious money on something that s/he doesn't really like. I'm not saying that the taste of the masses never fails, but as any artist can tell you, it's much harder to win the approval of the masses than to be hailed by a few self-crowned specialists who just judge the value of art by claimed theories.

As for my own introduction to the world of exotica music, I can only assure you, I would never have listened to it, if I was not really fascinated by it and I would never have kept listening to it over the years, if I would not really love it. And this love of exotica includes all aspects that exotica has: the sheer beauty as well as the fine intentional and unintentional violations of good taste at the border to Kitsch; in fact I like art that is not one-dimensional. It's a delicate game with dazzling elements, a dangerous walk at the edge of the abyss.


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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:02:06 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Kitsch? Never got Kitsch!

this list is really strange: I get this Re: Kitsch mail by Ross, but I definitely never got a Kitsch mail before that. Does this mean, I don't get certain exotica mails or did you carry a private conversation to the list at a certain point?



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Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:31:55 +0200
From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) list question..

PjB schrieb:

> ..... is it by group approval that the list is set up to send replies to
> the original poster, rather than to the group at large?

I don't like it either. I'm not sure if it can be changed though. The list owner is living in a different dimension and cannot be contacted.

> if you want to follow up on a thread, you have to open the
> original post, copy the text you wish to include in your follow-up, close
> that message window, fish out a new blank email, address it to the list,
> paste the text you copied into the new post.......

you definitely use the wrong browser. all you've got to do, like when you use Netscape, is to click answer, click quote (if you haven't set that automatically) and change the address. Only that last command could be avoided if the list was set in a different way. If you forget it, your mail is sent directly to the sender and not posted which happens all the time to most of us.

Mo

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