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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Lyricized Instrumentals
Date: 01 May 1997 00:37:10 -0400 (EDT)


Whew! I've been deluged with responses on this one and I'm still sorting
it all out. I'll be back in touch soon with those of you who sent me info
if I haven't already.

Thanks,

Michael David Toth
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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Komeda
Date: 01 May 1997 01:02:36 -0500

Not sure if it was someone on this list who recommended them, but I
certainly wish I had heeded earlier.  Terrific band!  Jangly
moog popster heaven...   with a hefty beat!  Infectious as hell.
Amusing insert has pics of 20 or so record cover parodies with titles
like Beat Beat, Bongo Frenzy, Bartok with a Beat and Clouded Room of
Happiness that give away the variety of influence on their wonderful
music - not for lounge purists ('rocket plane,' however, is bound
to get you shimmying in the den), sort of a not so sickly sweet
Cardigans, tho' the comparison isn't all fair.  melodic and groovy.
Yum yum!

and speaking of Ellen....   hotdamn!  what a show, finally
whoop whoop whoop whoop

oh... and, uh, the new Stereolab/Nurse with Wound 12" is worth
getting (mail order only from http://www.roughtrade.com) if you're
into 'em.  basically different (and infinitely better) versions of
'The Long Hair of Death'    - gloriously rich moog sounds that
have never before emitted from my bottom-of-the-line speakers, just a
bit Kraftwerkish and sooooo much better than Laetitia's side project,
Monade which is ok but disappointing.

working on my 6th toaster oven,
kevin king
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tipsy L.A. tip
Date: 01 May 1997 02:05:59 -0400 (EDT)

Also on the bill with Tipsy for their LA show May 3 at Encounter is Skip
Heller (Yma Sumac, Wonderful World of Joey, and now with his own band with DJ
Bonebrake) and a friend or two!


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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge Reading
Date: 01 May 1997 01:34:16 -0500

Oh my gawd=21=21=21=21=21=21=21=21=21=21=21=21=21=21
Romesville is one of my most cherished albums, purchased over fifteen years=
 ago on east 7th street across from the Kiev restaurant (NYC)  in a used bo=
ok & record store  for =240.25. I would love to find more records like this=
 one. I checked out a few Googi Ren=E9 45's a number of years ago but they =
didn't live up to the tracks =22Romesville=22  or =22Ceaser's Pad=22 on th =
LP. Any info about more of  these kinds of jams would be greatly appreciate=
d.

Supa Love,
 Jonny Sender




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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lounge Reading
Date: 01 May 1997 02:25:18 -0700

Brian Phillips wrote:
>
> I recall a fellow named Lou Curtiss was compiling just such a book about 12
> years ago; don't know what became of it.

I know Lou. He runs a record shop a few miles from my house (Folk Arts
Rare Records, San Diego). I could ask him about it if you're
interested...?

--
                        Pea Hicks
               "Memory is my drug of choice."
               <---Realm 'O' The Optigan--->
               http://www.pilot.com/optigan
               Who will be the next to brave
                   the *perils* of the
                    VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??!


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From: [e-mail] (Keith Allison)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flint Destroys Exotica
Date: 01 May 1997 08:28:18 -0400

I thought James Coburn's gong playing was up there with the time Andy
Kaufman came out on the David Letterman show and played the bongos and
chirped and squealed for several minutes.

Are there any version sof THE PRESIDENT'S ANALYST with the original
score intact? The copy I have on videotape says that most of the
original music was replaced with a made-for-tv score, which is still
okay stuff but much more like a Matt Helm soundtrack, and as fun as Matt
Helm films can be, Dean Martin can't even touch the grand lord on high
of swank, James Coburn.

And for people who like the Flint and/or Matt Helm films, they're all
for sale and rent most anywhere. I paid $12.99 for the Flint films and
President's Analyst, and $8.99 for each of the Matt Helm films. The only
problem, and this sort of relates to the record store categorization
thread that was here a while back, is that the movies could be
anywhere--comedy, action, adventure, (and if you're in Blockbuster--wild
action, zany action, super action, crazy ass monkey action, etc.)

You might as well throw OCEAN'S 11 into the shopping cart while you're
there. King of the Rat Pack films, and it also makes the occasional
appearance on AMC.

-Keith, exiled from Florida for 3 more months


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From: "Jim Gerwitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flint Destroys Exotica
Date: 01 May 1997 05:47:33 -0700



----------
Kevin King wrote:And
> has anyone else heard the phrase 'in like flint' used colloquially
> like 'made in the shade' or is that a washington thing?
>

This was probably a spoof on the famous self-explanatory phrase "In Like
Flynn", as in Errol Flynn, he of the alleged two way bedroom mirror in the
REAL swingin' bachelor pad he shared with Randy Randolph Scott in
Hollywoodland. Now what happened to THOSE home movies ?  .
This is only my dim recollection from Charles Higham's scandalous and
denounced bio of Flynn from 10 or 20 years ago.

Jim


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flint Destroys Exotica
Date: 01 May 1997 09:30:50 -0400

The copy that I have I taped off-air from KCOP in Los Angeles.  I am
usually sensitive to such matters such as soundtracks and it did not seem
that the music had been altered.

One of us may have ticked off the phone company.

>Are there any version sof THE PRESIDENT'S ANALYST with the original
>score intact?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flint Destroys Exotica
Date: 01 May 1997 10:17:47 -0400 (EDT)

I've definitely heard "In Like Flint" here in San Francisco. On tv too. I
don't think it's a regional thing.
Gloria


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From: Steve Sando <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flint Destroys Exotica
Date: 01 May 1997 07:47:31 -0700

At 05:47 AM 5/1/97 -0700, Jim Gerwitz wrote:
>
>
>----------
>Kevin King wrote:And
>> has anyone else heard the phrase 'in like flint' used colloquially
>> like 'made in the shade' or is that a washington thing?
>>
>
>This was probably a spoof on the famous self-explanatory phrase "In Like
>Flynn", as in Errol Flynn,

I've always understood that 'In like flint' referred to a piece of flint
that fits snuggly in a lighter. When Errol Flynn became popular, the phrase
was adapted to describe his conquests.



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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flint Destroys Exotica
Date: 01 May 1997 09:55:23 -0400

>From my perhaps equally dim recollection of David Niven's autobiography,
there was a statuatory rape case against Flynn (from which he was
acquitted), which spurred wags to utter the infamous phrase.

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From: "Robert P. Krajewski" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) J-J Perrey back in action
Date: 01 May 1997 15:20:37 -0400

>these JJ Perrey tracks will be available later this week at the Source site
>(http://www.caroline.com/associated/source/) when it launches.

Hmm, I think MTV's AMP played an excerpt from a video for one on these
last Saturday night...


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From: [e-mail] (Mark Turner)
Subject: Re: (exotica) J-J Perrey back in action
Date: 01 May 1997 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT)

>
> >these JJ Perrey tracks will be available later this week at the Source site
> >(http://www.caroline.com/associated/source/) when it launches.
>
> Hmm, I think MTV's AMP played an excerpt from a video for one on these
> last Saturday night...

No, that was the Fatboy Slim remix of "Eva," out now on BGP.

--
 Mark Turner
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Source site opens
Date: 01 May 1997 17:41:39 -0500

As promised, the Source site is up and running at
http://www.caroline.com/associated/source/. Three Air tracks, the
aforementioned JJ Perrey, Le Tone's homage to JJP, Dimitri FRom Paris and
several more.

cheers,
Vik




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Spaced Out - major facelift/upgrade
Date: 02 May 1997 00:19:52 +0000

Phew - well, after many hours and days' work, the Spaced Out WWW site
is now looking a lot nicer (please excuse the immodesty!).

Apart from just looking nicer I've spiced up the site with some Java
in the form of: Java-enabled navigation buttons and a Java applet
which enables you to generate discographies of any of the artists who
recorded with Enoch Light.  You can in fact also use the applet to
search for *any* word in the discographies which might help you if
you're trying to locate a particular track...

Please have a look and let me know what you think.

Any of you without Java-enabled browsers please ignore the above
message!


Robbie

Spaced Out - the Enoch Light WWW Site  ** ** ** ** ** **
** ** ** http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light/  ** **


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From: Laura Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) moderne garage essentials
Date: 02 May 1997 12:22:24 -0400

Re:  Subsonics, 13 Frightened Girls

If you don't buy the new SUBSONICS album - EVERYTHING'S FALLING APART and
bug TJ O'Brien about getting a 13 FRIGHTENED GIRLS TAPE, then you don't
rock.  It's that simple.

"It's just my nature to do weird stuff..."-Mr.  Leslie Baxter
Laura Taylor
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From: "Ray Coffey"<[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Plink Plank Plunk
Date: 02 May 1997 13:08:27 -0400





PLINK:  The Life of Lounge Laura
<http://www.sptimes.com/News2/42597/FLORIDIAN/Supervixen.html>

PLANK: What's with Austin Powers?  I expect several erudite reviews.

PLUNK: Richard Cameron (guest DJ) at Brother Cleve's Saturnalia
was FABULOUS!  The good Brother should be worried if he decides to move to
the metropolitan Boston area...

Thanks for having him spin, Cleve.  Jet lag must improve a DJ's skills.

Any offerings available from Mr. Cameron?



Ray




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From: Ken Freedman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WFMU Record Fair
Date: 02 May 1997 13:15:01 -0400 (EDT)


The WFMU Record Fair is upon us once again. It's a weekend chock full of
amazing and unusual sounds of every stripe. It never ceases to
amaze me the stuff that you can find at these things - there's tons of
vinyl, 45s and CDs at both great and ridiculous prices. Here's the skinny:

WHERE: 440 East 12th Street at the corner of 12th and Ave. A in NYC.

WHEN: Saturday, May 3rd from 11am to 8pm
      Sunday, May 4th from 11am to 7pm.

HOW MUCH: Admission is $5, and early vinyl addict admission at 10 am is $10.

WFMU will be broadcasting live from the stage all day each day, and our
entire Catalog of Curiosities is moving in for the weekend. We'll also be
blowing out a lot of catalog stock at reduced prices.



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From: David Frame <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #207
Date: 02 May 1997 11:18:03 -0600

> AMC showed both of James Coburn's Flint movies last weekend (Our Man
> and In Like). It had been a while since I'd watched either, so I
> figgered I'd check ut the music.....

we were layin' around the house tryin' to figure out what to do and
flippin' channels.  once we spotted coburn, our problem was solved.

there's a guy in denver selling a chair from "our man flint".  not just
any chair, but the one where he gets his shave while being persuaded to
help save the world.  nice.  leopard print lounger that has the little
compartment in back where the shaving cream was dispensed in the movie.

speaking of 60s spy flicks, does anyone know where i could track down a
videotape of "modesty blaise"?  as it says on the movie poster, `nothing
can faze modesty blaise'.  looks to be something like a female flint,
with monica vitti no less.

dave
--

David Frame
Graduate School of Business Administration
CB 419
University of Colorado
Boulder, CO  80309-0419

Telephone: [phone]
Email:  [e-mail]


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From: "Lar E. Warner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #207
Date: 02 May 1997 11:01:53 -0700 (PDT)

>speaking of 60s spy flicks, does anyone know where i could track down a
>videotape of "modesty blaise"?  as it says on the movie poster, `nothing
>can faze modesty blaise'.  looks to be something like a female flint,
>with monica vitti no less.
>
>dave

I wish I knew, and if you find out, please let me know.  I have a color
printout of Ms. Vitti's scene in the Op-art cage from that movie right here on
the wall next to my monitor for inspiration.  Yes, I am loony.
I snagged it from this guy's page: http://www.inch.com/%7Ehepcat/movies.html
See also http://www-personal.cs.umu.se/~kenth/modesty.html for info about the
books, etc.

Do you have the poster or an image of it?

L


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From: Laura Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) rat pack undead!
Date: 02 May 1997 14:49:01 -0400

SAMMY DAVIS JR. SETTLEMENT
   (Los Angeles) -- Sammy Davis Junior's widow is square with theáI-R-S
again. Altovise (al-toh-VEES') Davis says she's reached aásettlement
with the government. She wouldn't say what will happenáto the seven (M)
million dollar tax bill the agency says she owes.áDavis says ''Sammy was
a fighter'' and would've wanted her to reacháa settlement instead of
declaring bankruptcy.


What would Anton Levey (sp?) have to say about this?

"It's just my nature to do weird stuff..."-Mr.  Leslie Baxter
Laura Taylor
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Easytune
Date: 02 May 1997 17:43:04 -0400 (EDT)

It's very danceable, it incorporates lots of loungey/bossa/MOR values and the
beat isn't the typical 130+BPM of House--those beats vary and Richard Cameron
of Amsterdam spun some nice Easytune at Brother Cleve's "Saturnalia" spin
last night.....


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From: [e-mail] (Br. Cleve)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Plink Plank Plunk
Date: 02 May 1997 21:23:49 -0400

Ray Coffey was there, and then he wrote:

>PLUNK: Richard Cameron (guest DJ) at Brother Cleve's Saturnalia
>was FABULOUS!  The good Brother should be worried if he decides to move to
>the metropolitan Boston area...
>
>Thanks for having him spin, Cleve.  Jet lag must improve a DJ's skills.
>
>Any offerings available from Mr. Cameron?

On the Dutch label, Drive-In; distributed by Outland

Easy Tune (Vol's 1-4)
The Best of Easy Tune

there is also a U.S. 12" single of Popcorn's "Tap Moi-La!"

Look for a new album in August, entitled "All-In". It will be on Readymade
Records from Japan, the new label run by the Pizzacato Five.

Kanpai!
br cleve




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From: [e-mail] (Br. Cleve)
Subject: (exotica) more Easytune
Date: 02 May 1997 21:54:56 -0400

An addendum the the aforementioned Easy Tune/ Richard Cameron CD's and LP's

Stereo Showcase -POPCORN  CD ET 007 (Drive-In/Outland)

Outland Records ([phone] (The Netherlands)

Also available in Japan:
Stereo Showcase
Tap La-Moi! CD EP
The Best Of Easy Tune (out in June)

Art Union  - Fax - ([phone] (Tokyo)

br cleve





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Modesty Blaise/Wild Party/May Coming Attractions
Date: 02 May 1997 23:36:51 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-05-02 13:43:02 EDT, you write:

<< speaking of 60s spy flicks, does anyone know where i could track down a
 videotape of "modesty blaise"?  as it says on the movie poster, `nothing
 can faze modesty blaise'.  looks to be something like a female flint,
 with monica vitti no less.

 d >>

For you cable hounds Fox's "Fx" movie channel is showing this again on May
21. I  watched some of it a few months ago and was unimpressed, despite the
gorgeous color, art direction, and the presence of my favorite twisted Limey
Dirk Bogarde. Monica is indeed loverly, and has a HUUUGGE bed, but even her
luscious lips couldn't suck me into watching the whole thing. Maybe i'll give
it another try. I think John Dankworth did the music, but he did a much
better job on "Darling", which is well worth a look for the wild "Truth or
Dare" party scene in swingin' 60's England, with Julie Christie, Dirk, AND
Laurence Harvey.

My favorite forgotten cable flick recently was 1956's "The Wild Party" on
TMC, a cheapo with world's worst actor Tony Quinn and some grifters hanging
out in a demimonde jazz joint talking tons of  bad beatnik dialogue. Lots of
music by the Buddy de Franco Quartet with piano solos by Pete Jolly (when one
of the grifters plays the piano.)  They kidnap some rich swells and the fun
ensues. Its on Flix in May but I don't get that channel.

And also: 5/7 Blow-Up on TCM  - Jane Birkin anyone ? will Ted cut the muff
scenes?
5/6, 16, & 17 Touch of Evil  AMC
5/21  Mr. Buddwing TCM  -  Kenyon Hopkins again, R.I.P
5/26 Hatari on TCM
5/26  Mothra on Sci-Fi  -  We love you Peanuts, oh yes we do.

JB Twist, too lazy to rent videos & hope i'm not overdoing this


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Die Neue Marlene
Date: 03 May 1997 05:27:56 -0700

Found this oddity at the Salvation Army yesterday:

Die Neue Marlene, a British EMI LP from 1964.  Marlene Dietrich sings in
German.  Half of the songs are German, but the rest are translations of
then-current U.S. hits.  Marlene puts her special dry, world-weary spin
on "Blowing in the Wind," "Where Have All the Flowers Gone?," and "Puff,
the Magic Dragon."  Except they're "Die Anwort Weiss Ganz Allein der
Wind," "Sag Mir Wo die Blumen Sind," and "Paff, der Zauberdrachen."

How did Rhino miss this one?

Brad
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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A Haul
Date: 03 May 1997 12:28:19 +0100

In the bleary dreary grey light of a hung-over Saturday, I uncovered a
few nice records, so here comes the gloatable list:

Themes From Classic Science Fiction, Fantasy and Horror Films
(Varese Sarabande), featuring music from The Mole People, The Creature
From The Black Lagoon, This Island Earth (yes!), The Incredible
Shrinking Man, It Came From Outer Space, The Creature Walks Among Us,
The House Of Frankenstein, The Horror of Dracula, Tarantuala, The Son Of
Dracula, The Revenge Of The Creature, and last -- but almost certainly
not least -- The Deadly Mantis! The music is by Mancini, Herman Stein,
Hans J. Salter, and others. Woof. This is the kind of music I NEED.

Thank You, Music Lovers -- Spike Jones.
Original Soundtrack to "Hotel" -- Johnny Keating.

As well, a couple of radio-show albums: W. C. Fields Original Radio
Broadcasts, and The Official Adventures Of The Green Hornet. "Full
Cast Live-Action Episodes In The Battle Against Crime by Britt Reid
And His Faithful Valet, Kato" with the Green Hornet Theme Song. Which,
I'm hoping, will the cause of much excitement this p.m.

Plus: "Tom" -- Tom Jones; "Julie Is Her Name" -- Julie London; Kenton
in Hi-Fi; The Astounding 12-String Guitar Of Glen Campbell; Tony Hatch
with "Love Sounds" (heh heh); and "Drink No Rio De Janeiro" by Djalama
Ferreira e seus Millionarios Do Ritmo.

Not bad. Now all I've got to go is find some time to listen to them...

I also saw a Xavier Cugat album called "Love, Bread and Cha Cha":
didn't get it because it was priced too high for me at 4 quid, but
it's got a great cover of Mr. Cugat (I presume) hugging a large loaf
of French bread plus a glamorous lady in adjunction to him.

Happy days,
Pete.



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) James Coburn, AMC, letterboxes, gongs, Tura
Date: 03 May 1997 15:02:09 -0400

   Got my first exotica digest yesterday -- very impressive. Have I finally
found a mailing list that's on my wavelength? I hadn't planned on joining in so
soon, but the James Coburn/Flint movies thread really grabbed me.
   AMC tends to show their letterbox versions in the late, late hours -- so if
you see a movie that interests you listed in prime time, it's a good idea to
check the overnight listings for a letterbox showing. TV Guide (print) usually
indicates letterbox versions as such. AMC has been fairly generous with it:
I've caught most of the movies discussed in this thread in letterbox via the
AMC thriftshop (except the Matt Helm movies, which Turner probably has a lock
on). A nice batch of 50's sci-fi as well.
   I second the opinion that Coburn was plugging "The President's Analyst" when
he banged the gong on the Tonight Show. Besides the one his character kept in
his office, I think (could well be mis-remembering) he got to bash one onstage
in the psychedelic rock club scene. Big fun movie. I think AMC's print had the
original music -- at least it sounded Lalo Schifrin-esque to me.
   This is probably common knowledge, but Tura Satana (Varla in "Faster
Pussycat") plays both dancers in the Marseille club scene in "Our Man Flint". I
don't know if that's her in the solarized title sequence. ???

m.ace
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Subject: Re: (exotica) letterboxes
Date: 03 May 1997 15:28:27 -0400 (EDT)

What exactly is a letterbox version of a movie?
Gloria


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Happening" is Happening
Date: 03 May 1997 16:53:47 -0700

Picked up a great Dick Hyman Command LP at Salvation Army yesterday:
"Happening"  Dick's on harpsichord, and doubles as a whistler on a
swinging "now sound" cover of "The Ballad of the Green Berets."  A must
for the next tape compilation.

Brad
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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) letterboxes
Date: 03 May 1997 17:56:15 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:

> What exactly is a letterbox version of a movie?

Letterboxing preserves the original (intended) screen aspect ratio -
width vs. height. Our tv screens weren't designed to fit pictures
filmed in vistavision, panavision or any other wide-screen format.
So, in order to utilize the largest area possible most films are
panned and scanned for video (area of central action gets the frame).
 With films that are carefully composed, like the Flints, panning and
scanning guarantees that you're not getting the full (intended)
effect.  In fact, it creates a considerably different experience.

kevin king
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) audionet broadcasting
Date: 03 May 1997 19:36:59 -0400 (EDT)

while this may not be precisely on target for collectors, it may ultimately
interest them. A friend wants to start up an audionet site and broadcast
"different" music from mainstream hits! I need to find out advertising info
from the point of view of a sales person. How does it work.. Also I need to
get sales figures on re-released older music..any suggestions? Sorry for the
interruption--Jimmy (by e-mail please)


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Library record sale
Date: 03 May 1997 23:08:03 -0400 (EDT)

The Brooklyn Public Library is getting out of the LP storage business.
The main branch at Grand Army Plaza will be selling off all vinyl during the
month of May, for $1 per disk.

The selection is best for classical discs.
There's a bunch of soundtracks and cast recordings, and lots of spoken word
stuff.

Just don't expect to find Bas Sheva's Soul Of A People   --  I got that one.

--Lou


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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Finds from the last two weeks...
Date: 04 May 1997 14:02:16 -0400

I love Spring...birds start to sing, flowers start to bloom, records pop up
everywhere.... ; )

Basie Meets Bond (I had the weirdo re-ish on Solid State but this is the
original. I may keep both copies--after all, how many records have a drawing
of Count Basie holding a gun on the cover?)

Hollywood...Basie's Way
The Seventh Veil by Artie Barsamian (Now I have the old veil and the new
veil. Yay!!)

Big Hits from the Fabulous 50s (Jayne Mansfield is on the cover)
Let's Dance Again! by David Carroll (early hi-fi cash in moments--kinda nice)
Far Away Places by Enoch Light
With Bells On by Sid Bass (cute music and cover)
The Joy of Living by Nelson Riddle
Lazy Lively Love by Jackie Gleason (nice cocktais'n' cigarettes cover)
Twistin' Time by Ernie Freeman
Music for Cooking with Gas a La Carte (promo thingy)
Adventure in the Sun by Percy Faith (Faithful Latin)
Paris Swings by Elmer Bernstein and His Swinging Bon Vivants ^_^
We Like Brass by Jerry Fielding
Around the World in Percussion by Billy Mure (I love this record!!!!)
Warm, Wild, and Wonderful by Tony Mottola (with the Groovies)
Watermelon Man by Mongo Santamaria

Journey to the Moon (mix of newsreely narration and actual footage of the
moon landing + wacky pseudo hippie space music. Some sitar, too)

Paradise Found by Felix Slatkin (pretty pix of Hawaii, Hula Maids, etc)
The Rock Version of the Lord's Prayer (cheap Pickwick version of the
original that still sounds pretty good)

Ingenuity in Sound by Buddy Cole (one of those Warner Bros Workshop LPs)

Cugi's Cocktails by Xavier Cugat (cuchi, cuchi, cuchi!!)

The Sound for a Picture Evening Series, volumes 1-4:

These records are so neat! You get all these "mood" themes, sound effects,
and "sound portraits" of touristy places. You're supposed to use 'em to make
soundtracks for your slide shows and home movies. Two of them have these
amazing outer space, electronic music that are supposed to be used for
"abstact slides." Other cuts are delightfully generic. Does that sound
funny? ^_^

Thunderball Soundtrack
Hawaii by Martin Denny (later Denny with some great tunes--"Oro, God of
Vegeance" is awesome!)

Top of the Ladder by Byron Lee and the Dragonaires (cool calypso with a
great poolside shot of  Byron and his boys)

The Oud by Aram Arakelian and His Ensemble

At Home With the Barry Sisters (my first Barry sisters LP! And it has their
wonderful version of "Hava Nagila" to boot!)

A Salute to the Tijuana Brass (Living Stuff--I like this way more than I
thought I would. I used to hate Tijuana sounds, but I'm really getting into
them now. "Spanish Flea" is just too much to ignore--what other Herb Alpert
rip-offs are worth a listen? Any ideas?)

Strictly Belly Dancing vol. 4 by Eddie "The Shiek" Kochak
Boris Karloff reads Hans Christian Anderson (_this_ is the Grinch???) ; )

Marcy sings Sunday School Songs (early Marcy album with the story of her
tragically high-pitched voice on the back cover. Can you imagine having to
talk like Marcy every single day of your life?)

thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^



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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Percussion Mania
Date: 04 May 1997 14:02:30 -0400

Just two questions about percussion LPs and one of my favorite studio guys,
Harry Breuer:

1) How many albums are there in the Strand Elite percussion series? I have
these ones:

Hawaiian Percussion
Latin Percussion
Explosive Vocal Percussion
Around the World in Percussion

There have to be more, right? ; )

2) I was looking at my copy of "Blues with a Kick" by Bobby Hackett the
other day, and it mentions that Phil Kraus and "Harry Brewer" are on
perucssion. This is Harry Breuer, isn't it? And "Ping Pong Percussion" has a
picture of him that's labeled "Harry Brener." They spelled it right in the
personnel list, but mislabeled the photo. Poor Harry! No one could ever get
his name right. : (

Thanks for any answers, record lists, or stories about Harry Breuer crying
because no one could spell his name right, Jessica  ^_^



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Julie London info requested
Date: 04 May 1997 20:51:32 -0700 (PDT)

I just bought two additional LPs for my Julie London collection and decided
to build a discography to figure out what is out there.   Its a pretty good
list, but I thought you might have info to help me fill in the gaps.


1. JL's last LP was Yummy, Yummy, Yummy in 1969.  The last LP I have is
Liberty LST 7546 "Easy Does It."  Do you know of any releases between 7546
and Yummy?

2. The numbering on some of the early Liberty albums was a bit crazy, what
with mono releases that were re-released in electronically created stereo.
I noted that four original monos were re-released with different stereo
numbers.  Does this correspond to your info?

3.  On Love Letters, the notes claim that is JL's 15th album.  Yet,
everything I have says that would be her 16th album.  The nearest I can
figure is that Calendar Girl messed up the calculations.  Calendar Girl is
the only LP that was numbered differently and doesn't appear to have a
stereo reprocessed equivalent. Any ideas about this?

4. Julie London's last known recording was in 1983 for one selection on the
soundtrack for Sharkey's Machine "My Funny Valentine."  I take it this was a
new recording and not simply a reissue of something she did earlier?  Any
thoughts?

5. Capitol put out a compilation CD in 1991 called Merry Christmas Baby
which supposedly had a JL cut.  What was the title?

6. Did any company other than Liberty release JL material (authorized or
not)?  I am not talking about re-releases of original Liberty material, I
refer to stuff that never made it on Liberty.

7. My info on JL singles is lacking.  Anyone have a source that goes beyond
her only chart hitting single (Cry Me A River)?

Oh well, those are enough questions for now.  Thanks for your help.
BTW, someone told me there was something on NPR last week about Julie London
singing a commercial jingle.  I may also have read something about this.
Anyone know the full scoop: what ditty, what product, any recordings
available of it?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) SF Tiki parties
Date: 05 May 1997 02:34:22 -0400 (EDT)

Sorry if you don't live in SF.
The Lounge scene here has been rollin along with a couple of recent live
shows from Tipsy and the Sense-O-Round djs back in business with gigs at The
Hi-Ball on Broadway.
Last week was Mr. Lucky Combo.
Here's my itinerary for the month:

Saturday, May 3
Tiki News' Otto & Baby Doe will join Mr. Lucky at the Encounter in LA for
Lounge magazines' 3rd anniversary party featuring Tipsy, djs Easy Tunes
(Amsterdam), Lucien Samaha (NYC) Johan Kugelberg (NYC) & DJ Orb (LA), along
with author Bob Sloan.

Wednesday, May 7
djing between sets for THIN @ Cafe Du Nord

Thursday May 15
5th Tiki News party at Chameleon Club
Jumbo Shrimp (featuring Klaus and Ray from Dead Kennedys)
will play two sets of their twisted new wave instrumentals (yes, instro
versions of some 80s NW hits) and power surf numbers (they have three
guitarists!)
between sets will be vintage BW surf and trash films and djing til two a.m.
by dj "The Now Sound"

All for only $3.00

Sunday, May 18
I may be djing a BBQ this day
call or email me for details as they arrive

Thursday, May 22
KALX dj "The Kalifornia Kid" celebrates his birthday (and Mister T's) with a
Tiki/surf show at club Cocodrie on Kearny in North Beach
Pineapple Princess will play along with a headlining band and hula dancers
and a ukulele player. Tiki News will set up shop there selling mags and mugs.
$5.00 entry

May 24/25
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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Finds from the last two weeks...
Date: 05 May 1997 12:17:23 +0100

Jessica Cameron wrote:

> The Sound for a Picture Evening Series, volumes 1-4:
>
> These records are so neat! You get all these "mood" themes, sound effects,
> and "sound portraits" of touristy places. You're supposed to use 'em to make
> soundtracks for your slide shows and home movies. Two of them have these
> amazing outer space, electronic music that are supposed to be used for
> "abstact slides." Other cuts are delightfully generic. Does that sound
> funny? ^_^

Heh. I've got this great thing: a musical postcard from Ireland. Which
is basically a flexidisc single kind of thing in the lamination of the
card (which is the size of a 45 single). It's produced in association
with Guinness, and, surprisingly, among the tourist sites visited in
the narrative-soundeffect journey is the Guinness Brewery.

>
> A Salute to the Tijuana Brass (Living Stuff--I like this way more than I
> thought I would. I used to hate Tijuana sounds, but I'm really getting into
> them now. "Spanish Flea" is just too much to ignore--what other Herb Alpert
> rip-offs are worth a listen? Any ideas?)
>

There's a couple of albums by the Torero Brass on Music for Pleasure,
called "Tijuana Nursery Rhymes" and um, something like "Lennon and
McCartney Tijuana Style". These are, I think, Alan Moorhouse creations
in disguise, and are surprisingly good, if rather silly. The nursery
rhyme album has a lot of blurb on the back about getting children back
into traditional music rather than the Beatles -- by presenting it in
the exciting new Tijuana style. Which is a wonderful leap of
logic. There may well be more of these. (I had high hopes for "Tamla
Meets Tijuana" by the Tequila Brass, but I was sorely disappointed).

The Duke Ellington version of "Spanish Flea" is the top!



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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) La Fromagerie
Date: 05 May 1997 12:37:11 +0100

This Thursday, 9pm till 1am, at the Meadows Bar in Edinburgh (on
Buccleuch Street), we will be celebrating the first birthday of "La
Fromagerie". Free entry, as always, and top quality cheese-laden
sounds centring on easy, happy music, good for both dancing and
drinking to, diverting around to pick up the odd few dozen pieces of
lush stringery, high-class vocal delights, exotica, electronic
burbling, percussive rat-a-tata, discoid pulsation, brass honking,
theme music, country music, and whatever else manages to grab our
limited attention spans and/or depraved senses of humour on the
way. We start off nice and whip it up to a frenzy a little later on in
the evening (sometimes we even get as far as a pandemonium).

Cheers,
Pete.



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From: [e-mail] (nbccw20)
Subject: (exotica) Austin Powers
Date: 05 May 1997 12:01:31 +0000

I saw Austin Powers this weekend.  I think maybe you guys would like
it.  I thought it was awesome.  Any movie that opens with everyone
dancing in the streets to "Soul Bossa Nova" by Quincy Jones has off to
great start at least.  Anyways, I recommend it.

-Q


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Julie London info requested
Date: 05 May 1997 10:11:14 -0400 (EDT)

At 08:51 PM 5/4/97 -0700, Byron Caloz wrote:
>I just bought two additional LPs for my Julie London collection and decided
>to build a discography to figure out what is out there.   Its a pretty good
>list, but I thought you might have info to help me fill in the gaps.


Here's the URL for the London entry in the All-Music Guide. You might find
the info you need there.
-Lou

<http://www.allmusic.com/cgi-win/AMG.exe?sql=2P_IDP|||||3118>


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From: [e-mail] (Peter Principle)
Subject: (exotica) Casey Kasem
Date: 06 May 1997 12:53:06 -0400 (EDT)

>Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:00:49 -0700
>From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) Astrology For Young Lovers
>
>I've heard that Casey Kasem did a record called "Astrology For Young
>Lovers".  Can
>anyone supply any general info on this?


Astrology For Young Lovers - the Horoscope for the Now Generation with  Casey
Kasem on Sidewalk Records T5905 narrated with 60's whitebred AM radio
enthusiasm.. "Hey kids, astrology can be fun!!..." produced by Mike Curb
(he of Freak Out USA fame).  The back cover is filled with a list of the
names of hundreds of "stars" (from Sammy Davis Jr. to Marianne Faithful via
Sandy Koufax) listed by astrological sign   wow   Unfortunately ther is no
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From: [e-mail] (Peter Principle)
Subject: (exotica) commercial musics
Date: 06 May 1997 12:53:11 -0400 (EDT)

>Jim Gerwitz wrote:
>>
>  I also scored a
>> Campbell's Soup promo EZ compilation, most notable for Lester Lanin's
>> version of "M'm! M'm! GOOD!", starting out in a TJB mode, then on to mod
>> rock, and then a xylophone and bongo-filled finale.  Good cover of mommy
>> and freckle-boy.
>
>This reminds me of an EP I have that was put out by Oscar Meyer.
>Basically it's six different versions of the "I Wish I Were An Oscar
>Meyer Wiener" song, done in different styles. Since it came out around
>1970, there's the mod rock version, the TJB version, the sultry sexy
>slow bossa version (w/ fake Brazil 66 vox- very nice), etc. Anyone else
>have this or others like it?
>
>pea

I've got a few of these, and a minute to spare... (I haven't read any
digests since 158, but I am a list enthusiast)

anyway, as this is an area in which there are few discographies (and in the
hope that someday there will be a searchable option for the exotica
archives so people can compile lists from the vast wealth of knowledge
contributed by the esteemed polity here assembled) I offer these in no
particular order

1.  "The Rheingold Beat,  Music to Sell Beer By" the Stanley Krell
Orchestra  on Gotham Records LP GRC 8345  produced by Foote, Cone and
Belding
this is an in house promotional pep talk to the sales force... 1 side is
aimed at the white market and the other side is aimed at a spanish american
demographic... the music is latinized and some of the copy is revealingly
racist.  The cover features a collage of beer images on the front in
duotone and a B/W picture of Celeste Yarnall Miss Rheingold 1964 full
screen on the back

2.  "The Sound of Selling in the Sixties,  the Years Most Effective Radio
Commercials"  Radio Advertising Bureau's Gold Record Winners 1963
this 10" EP on its own label is just what you would expect 12 national
spots and 5 regional.  winners include American Express Tavelers Cheques
(Ogilvy, Benson and Mather), Kellogs (Leo Burnett Co.) General Motors and
Coca Cola (both McCann Erikson) Cambells V-*, Mars Candy (both Needham
Louis and Brorby) etc.

3. Lester Lanin and his Orchestra play "The Madison Avenue Beat" have fun
listening and dancing to 58 radio and television commercial favorites...
pretty self explainatory comes with an insert describing products and
source music... everything from Anheuser Busch to Mr. Clean.  on Epic LN
3796 cartoon on cover has exec in office with secretary on lap and cigar in
hand... caption says "listen, their playing our song"

4. "Tune In and Turn On to the Hippest Commercials of the Sixties" by Benny
Golson on Verve V?V6-8710
rather good interpretations of Cool Whip, Right Any Time of the Day, the
Swinger etc.  this is definitely of interest to lounge fans.  from the
liner notes "Madison Avenue, capitol of the advertising industry, has
emerged as the moist creative force in Show Business.  Television
commercials are now rated by critics as fresher and bolderr than the
programs that surround them.  These days, we head for the icebox during the
show.  We'de rather miss a shoot-out at the Bar-X ranch than miss a bar of
Happiness Is.  this in 1967.. reminds one of Mr. Joyboys mother and her
enthusiastic scene in "the Loved One".  This one has a very forward looking
cover (looks just like a Kenny Scharf) and is produced by Tom Wilson who
worked with Dylan and the Soft Machine to name a few...

5. "Music to Sell Bread By   Tastee That Is"   an in house production on
it's own label featuring 5 different Tastee Bread commercials and an
instrumenatl version of one of them.
Again from the liner notes (sorry to be so verbose, but the copy reveals a
lot about the industries perceptions of itself in these times... please
beaar with me on this)
"Any patron of the record shops these days is aware of the New Approach in
Album Titles.  They're very functional.  For example, if you hate
excercise, you can cater to your prejudice very pleasantly with a disc
called "Music For Not Doing Pushups."  If you happen to be a housewife
overcome by the monotny of housework, you can gain strength from a disc
called "Music to Watch the Maid Ironing By." (a certain limber fingered
jazz-guitarest has entered the lists with ana lbum titled, interestingly
enough, "Music to Listen to a Certain Limber-Fingered Jazz Guitarest BY.")
None, however, has been more hopefully conceived than the one you hold in
your hand "Music to Sell Bread By."  It's a record of the swingin'est
session ever inspered by a loaf of bread. and dedicated to the proposition
that a solid beat, a deft lyric, and a warm melody can do a lot to put our
favorite bread over at the box office." etc. and soforth for another couple
of hundred words...

5. "Music to MAke Automobiles By..."  put out by the public relations
department of Volkswagon of America, Englewood Cliffs NJ  this is actually
the soundtrack to an inhouse industrial film "The Right Hand of Plenty".
The music is very swinging euro big band (by Hale Rood) and there are lots
of machine sounds mixed in.  this one is actually quite famous

6. "Bergstrom Paper presents Impressions In Color" by Bill Walker  produced
by Advertisers Music Inc. at Universal Studios, Chicago Illinois 1967
a similar recording to that above in that it has 6 pieces of music that
integrate machine sounds and music.  "My first step," Walker explained,
"was to tape the presses running at different speeds.  We recorded them at
1800 impressions an hour and 8000 impressions, moving our microphones
around each press to get different effects in stereo."  The music is very
Enoch Light/Lew Davies influenced with similar descriptive notes "rhythm
pattern which suggests Rock-n-Roll may really have been derived from a
Harris Offset LTV press.  There is strong emphasis on the bottom sound
produced by the bass harmonica and bass guitar contrasted with the harp,
piccolo, vibraphone and piano" etc.  Gorgeous gatefold sleeve

7. "Music Used In Many Popular Television Commercials" on Folkways Records
FX 6109 of all labels!  a various artists comp that features expanded
instrumental versions of commercial themes performed by the composers.
includes Vic Flick "Guitarama" from a Coty Perfume spot for instance, as
well as many auto product related commercials Zenith TV, Dannon Yogurt etc.

8. "The Name of the Game Is Go,  The Pan Am Go Commercials" on Panam
records... 1 side is 6 different american spots and a medley of foreign
market ads, the other side features a long medley of collaged ad materials
possibly from a short industrial film and 2 versions of "The Goin's Great"
one by Sammy Davis Jr. and the other by Steve Allen. another gatefold
sleeve includes all the copy to all the ads and many cartoon ads

9.  "Buy, Buy, Buy" an in house sampler of Young and Rubicam spots from 1966
13 original spots for such divers clients as Gulf Oil, Tiparillo, Goodyear,
Remington, White Owl (composed and played by John Barry Seven) etc.  more
Enoch Light alumnii on these bits... Dick Hyman, and Stan Free on keyboards
for instance. from the liner notes yet again  "Remington.  the youngest
piece of music on this record created for use in advertising the Selectro
Shaver, the mood of this music was designed to tell a story without lyrics.
Here, it is heard as a rocking Frug"  also "Log Cabin the rarely heard
sound of the ondioline is mated with percussion and a block string section
to give us western'style rock.  words like "Hully Gully" and "earthy
insistant low down rock beat" aare liberally distributed throughout the
very extensive liner notes/sales pitch.

10/11.  and of course there are those Coca Cola in house records featuring
so many famous pop groups doing Coke ads... I have an Australian one with
the likes of Normie Rowe and the Playboys, Doug Parkinson, Brian Cadd,
Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs, John Farrar and the Strangers, Glenn Sharrock
and the Twilights, Larry's Rebels, the Groove, Sherbert and of course a
bunch by the Easybeats, Little River Band etc., and another with Supremes,
Aretha Franklin, Everly Bros and other american and english popstars which
I think is currently available booted on a CD

thanx for reading and I hope this wasn't too long

cheers
peter principle




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From: [e-mail] (Doug Frisby)
Subject: (exotica) Trades??
Date: 06 May 1997 09:46:09 -0700


     If anyone is interested in trading some vinyl for other vinyl (or
     CD's) please let me know (off the list). I just purchased a sealed
     copy of "Seven Golden Men" opened it, played it and am ready to trade
     it. I also have various other top quality stereo SABPM music that
     would feel happier being played in someone elses home. I don't like to
     sell, I like to trade (I'll even throw in a free <noisy> Living Stereo
     copy of Infinity In Sound for free). So let me know if there's any
     interest.

     Doug



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) hiya exoticats
Date: 06 May 1997 11:06:53 +0000

max from hollywood, calif signing on

been here a few, but little activity  -   ??



max
holllywood 46, calif.


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From: Paul Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) JJ Perrey
Date: 06 May 1997 17:25:04 -0400 (EDT)


Since each sound on albums such as The Happy Moog, Moog Indigo, etc. had
to be crafted individually, does anyone know what Jean Jacques Perrey
used to sequence the sounds?  I know he did a lot of experimentation with
tape splices, but did he do that for those early LPs?

thanks,
pablito!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Julie London, some ugly truths
Date: 06 May 1997 15:04:08 -0400

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Byron Caloz wrote:
> 6. Did any company other than Liberty release JL material (authorized o=
r
> not)?  I am not talking about re-releases of original Liberty material,=
 I
> refer to stuff that never made it on Liberty.

After she became a star, four early tracks were released on Guest Star
Records*, a cheesy budget line, on an album filled out with a bunch of
unrelated Ted Comstock Orchestra tracks. Julie sang: "Foggy Day,"
"You're Blase," "I've Got My Love to Keep Me Warm," and "Sometimes I
Feel Like a Motherless Child." Sound quality: D+. Lots of tape hiss.

These were JL's original Bethlehem Records demos, which pre-dated her
signing to Liberty. Her husband, Bobby Troup, set up the Bethlehem
audition. She was rejected. She had previously been turned down by
Capitol, Columbia, Decca and RCA.

See my liner notes on TIME FOR LOVE: The Best of Julie London (Rhino
70737, 1991), for more details on her recording career. Most info came
directly from several lengthy interviews I did with a very gracious and
enthusiastic Troup.=20

JL, on the other hand, refused to be interviewed, and tried to get Rhino
to abandon the project. I spoke with her briefly several times, and she
was most uncooperative. I got the impression she was not proud of her
work and just wished the world would go away and leave her alone. At one
point, Troup had specially selected some unpublished JL photos for the
Rhino package. Miss London found out and put the kibosh on that idea.

--Irwin Chusid
=20
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*a product of Synthetic Plastics Co., Newark, NJ, harkening to a
previous thread about Peter Pan Records

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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: (exotica) Sense-O-Round 5/8
Date: 06 May 1997 11:33:52 -0800


This Thursday, May 8,

The Sense-O-Round DJs will be spinning lounge music in the
bar at the Cat's Alley Club starting at 9PM as guests of the
Thursday night "Fencesitters Lounge" series.  Resident DJ
Monkey, who spins very eclectic and unpredictable sets, will
be in the main room.

The Cat's Alley Club is at 1190 Folsom at 8th in San Francisco;
admission is $3-$10 sliding scale.

See you there!

-Brian



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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) commercial musics
Date: 06 May 1997 14:39:22 -0700

Peter Principle wrote:
>

>
> thanx for reading and I hope this wasn't too long
>sender.

Wow- that was quite a list!! The only thing I can think to add at this
point is this promotional record I have from the early 70's that the Air
Force sent out to radio stations. Basically it's an assortment of
jingles and musical beds. The cool thing is that it's actually just one
jingle ("Fly away away/See the dawning of a new day/New horizons are on
the way/In the Air Force USA"), done in a variety of different styles to
target specific demographics. There's the Country version, the Latin
version, the Soul version, the "Contemporary" version, the EZ Listening
version, etc. And they all come in varying lengths. Unfortunately
there's a run-out groove after each one which effectively stops the
needle after each track. It'd be nice just to be able to listen to the
thing all the way thru. I suppose I could put it on tape...

Pea

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From: Tony Wilds <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) commercial music - jingle jungle
Date: 06 May 1997 18:24:24 -0400

The sound on the Benny Golson LP is pretty crumby; the Dart [Swinger] tune
and Cool Whip are the only tracks I like much.

Also there are:

Two prized 78s by the Brown-Forman distillery "Drink, drink, drink and be
mer-ry..." including a narrative thank you or pep talk or something from
management to the lackeys.

A 10" Zenith promo with a young Mike Wallace. There's lots of clips of
various artists, including Lester Lanin I think, but the best is Wallace
going on about the miraculous Zenith Hi-Fi set and addressing the ladies'
concerns about decor.

tony
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From: Laura Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Walker Brothers
Date: 06 May 1997 13:54:49 -0400

Ga-head...call me a shmuck...but I just picked up THE WALKER BROS.
anthology and I dig it...especially Scott's over-the-top gorgeous vocals
and that Phil Spector-esqe production...Maybe I just love him too much
that I am no longer objective...but it's damn good, esp. for e-z
listening...
However, I must say his cover of LOVE MINUS ZERO, NO LIMIT way
sucks...Ah, well, gotta love Scott for diggin' Dylan.
Lounge Laura

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From: [e-mail] (Ursula Blind)
Subject: (exotica) Portugese Washerwoman
Date: 06 May 1997 16:30:48 -0800

Yesterday on what passes for SF's easy-listening AM radio station I heard
the most amazing instrumental. Never heard it before in any
arrangement--the tune was called "Portugese Washerwoman;" the artist was
someone named Joe "Fingers" Carr, but I didn't catch who wrote it (2 men, I
think, in the mid-50s).

It had a very Enoch Light-like arrangement, only with fewer big bangs and
swoops. The tune itself did this really cool major-minor shift that sounded
both exotic and very homegrown American mid-20th-century-composer. It was
quite a peppy number.

Has anyone else ever heard this piece? Any idea who wrote it? Please share....

--Ursula




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Thanks for Julie info
Date: 06 May 1997 18:56:17 -0700 (PDT)

Thanks so much for all the help regarding Julie London info.  Most of the
replies were already posted.  It will take me a while to sort through the
info, but I've learned a lot already:

1.  There are some good websites with info specific to Ms. London and others
that are, in general, good for music reference questions.

2.  Ms. London did do a limited number of recordings for Bethlehem, with
even one single released and these demo songs also released by a budget
label on one side of an LP.  (I believe I saw it at Django's the other day
but felt skittish about it.  The review I got justified my reluctance, but I
may eventually buy it someday anyway!  Apparently the sound quality was awful.)

3.  Her recording of My Funny Valentine was original for Sharkey's Machine
ST.  I just hope I can find the record.

Still haven't heard any specifics about her rendition of some commercial
ditty. I'm sure the info is out there, because I believe I heard it or read
it sometime last week and this was confirmed by someone else who said it was
mentioned on NPR's All Things Considered.  My extremely faulty memory says
she sang a well-known jingle for a cigarette manufacturer.

I will try to coordinate the info I got in the next two weeks.  I appreciate
all the help!

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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Portugese Washerwoman
Date: 06 May 1997 22:50:08 -0500

Ursula Blind wrote:

> Yesterday on what passes for SF's easy-listening AM radio station I
> heard the most amazing instrumental. Never heard it before in any
> arrangement--the tune was called "Portugese Washerwoman;" the artist
> was someone named Joe "Fingers" Carr, but I didn't catch who wrote
> it (2 men, I think, in the mid-50s).

That piece is on Presenting Popp! and is credited to R. Luchessi and
Andre Popp.  -"in their most original version with the ondioline
imitating a musical saw."  I was just listening to this record today!

kevin king
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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Portugese Washerwoman
Date: 06 May 1997 20:14:24 -0700

Ursula Blind wrote:
>
> Yesterday on what passes for SF's easy-listening AM radio station I heard
> the most amazing instrumental. Never heard it before in any
> arrangement--the tune was called "Portugese Washerwoman;" the artist was
> someone named Joe "Fingers" Carr, but I didn't catch who wrote it (2 men, I
> think, in the mid-50s).

> Has anyone else ever heard this piece? Any idea who wrote it? Please share....

I've got an Astrud Gilberto (backed by the Walt Wanderley Trio) CD with that tune on it
and the credits go to Roger Lucchesi....and....(drum roll)....ANDRE POPP!!!!!



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) hiya exoticats
Date: 06 May 1997 23:33:18 -0400 (EDT)

Hiya Hiya Hiya ? Froggie Gremlin I presume?   Sometimes the postings seem
adrift in the doldrums, waiting for the lost sailors to read their digests or
make their thrift scores. Other times its typhoon season in the Far East,
crashing waves of  words from the ridiculous to the sublime.  As has been
recommended before, on a slow day you can always go into Fearless Leader
Lazslo's exotica archives and catch up on a year and a half of the digest
drivel, piffle, and arcane wisdom of the ancients and young turks.  The
volume of info available is indeed daunting, and  should be available in a
slick coffee-table book by the milennium, when we are all taking our soma to
John Tesh albums.

JB


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Walker Brothers
Date: 06 May 1997 17:59:31 +0000

> Ga-head...call me a shmuck...but I just picked up THE WALKER BROS.
> anthology and I dig it...especially Scott's over-the-top gorgeous vocals
===================================================

you don't ever have to sheepish 'bout digging the
WB's in my book,  laura.

they are superb !


paul / mighty


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From: Jeff Kopp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: moderne garage essentials
Date: 06 May 1997 23:00:19 -0600

Laura Taylor wrote:
>
> From:  Lounge Laura, former music critic and chanteuse in transition:
> To:  You garage-freaks
> Re:  Subsonics, 13 Frightened Girls
>
> If you don't buy the new SUBSONICS album - EVERYTHING'S FALLING APART and
> bug TJ O'Brien about getting a 13 FRIGHTENED GIRLS TAPE, then you don't
> rock.  It's that simple.

Been there, done both.  Actually, Everything's Falling Apart came out
last year, so it's not exactly new, but it *is* great stuff!

kopper

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Portugese Washerwoman
Date: 06 May 1997 23:00:24 -0700 (PDT)

At 04:30 PM 5/6/97 -0800, Ursula Blind wrote:
>Yesterday...I heard the most amazing instrumental..."Portugese Washerwoman...."
>Has anyone else ever heard this piece? Any idea who wrote it? Please share....
The authors have already been noted. While others have recorded the music,
only Carr managed to get the top radio play.  The recording you heard was
the A-side of a single and Joe Fingers Carr's only hit.  It reached #19 on
the Billboard pop charts on July 28, 1956 and was charted for 16 weeks that
year.  The instrumental had roughly the same popularity that year as tunes
from Elvis Presley, Russ Morgan, Mitch Miller, Pat Boone, Gloria Mann, The
Highlights and Sarah Vaughn.  You can find it on the Capitol label. (all
this according to Joel Whitburn's Pop Annual, 1955-1982, Record Research,
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From: "Jim Gerwitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Portugese Washerwoman
Date: 06 May 1997 21:43:32 -0700

Ursula Writes:
>
> Yesterday on what passes for SF's easy-listening AM radio station I heard
> the most amazing instrumental. Never heard it before in any
> arrangement--the tune was called "Portugese Washerwoman;" the artist was
> someone named Joe "Fingers" Carr, but I didn't catch who wrote it (2 men,
I
> think, in the mid-50s).
>
>
> Has anyone else ever heard this piece? Any idea who wrote it? Please
share....
>
 Astrud Gilberto sings it on her Verve 'Look to the Rainbow" Cd, one of 5
tracks where she's backed by Walter Wanderly.  Writer credits? None other
than Andre Popp and Roger Lucchesi(?).  Im sure lots of other artists have
done it too, but Astrud and Wally are fine with me.

And you must be referring to KABL, The Station of The Stars, where its a
pleasure to hear Jim "Dating Game" Lange in morning drive time (when Howard
gets too annoying). Decent variety, primarily vocals, Mills Bros, Rosie
Clooney, Sergio, Santo & Johnny, Elvis, Nat, Vic Damone, Basie, TJB, Marty
Robbins, and an "off-the-wall" song of the day, which is never really too
unusual. Lange recently mentioned that the younger generation was
discovering these great old songs. But giving away Phyllis Diller show
tickets to the 7th caller will not induce me to get a cel phone.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Portugese Washerwoman
Date: 07 May 1997 08:32:22 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-05-07 00:43:32 EDT, [e-mail] (Ursula Blind)
writes:

>Yesterday on what passes for SF's easy-listening AM radio station I heard
>the most amazing instrumental. Never heard it before in any
>arrangement--the tune was called "Portugese Washerwoman;" the artist was
>someone named Joe "Fingers" Carr, but I didn't catch who wrote it (2 men, I
>think, in the mid-50s).
>
>It had a very Enoch Light-like arrangement, only with fewer big bangs and
>swoops. The tune itself did this really cool major-minor shift that sounded
>both exotic and very homegrown American mid-20th-century-composer. It was
>quite a peppy number.
>
>Has anyone else ever heard this piece? Any idea who wrote it? Please
>share....
>
>--Ursula
>
>
>
>
>

I believe Andre Popp wrote this one. I know that the Baja Marimba Band and
even Walter Wanderely (w/ Astrud Gilberto on wordless vocals) do this a
swell. It's a very jaunty little song that has a very interesting sound to it
no matter who does it.
Ashley


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From: the_curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Buying portable DAT in Japan.
Date: 07 May 1997 17:24:58 +0100

Apologies for this off the subject message, but can anyone tell me if a
portable DAT bought in Japan will be usable in the UK or will it require a
huge transformer and a legion of mice to use it?

thanks

friendly

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From: Indulis R Rutks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bettie Page repeat
Date: 07 May 1997 15:45:50 -0500 (CDT)

For those that missed it the first time around (myself included), E! is
showing the Bettie Page special again this Saturday, May 10, at 6:00 pm
Central time.

-Indy Rutks ([e-mail])



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Buying portable DAT in Japan.
Date: 07 May 1997 17:11:28 -0400

> Apologies for this off the subject message, but can anyone tell me if a
> portable DAT bought in Japan will be usable in the UK or will it require a
> huge transformer and a legion of mice to use it?
> thanks
> friendly
> Sem Sinatra

I think you should be okay as long as it's a portable DAT recorder using
batteries and/or an external AC-to-DC adapter. You'll probably have to get the
suitable "wall wart" transformer in the UK (unless you WANT to go broke on
batteries). A lot of music equipment (including non-portable stuff) is designed
that way these days (as opposed to a hardwired AC power cable running to an
internal power transformer) because then the manufacturer doesn't have to worry
about building different versions for different power standards. They just
supply the suitable external transformer -- or drop the task in your hands. In
the US at least, this also saves them regulatory costs -- devices that run on
low DC power don't need UL approval or something like that. The transformer
should not be huge and no mice should be necessary, unless you want to train
them to clean the heads for you.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 07 May 1997 22:58:48 -0400 (EDT)

Greetings Exotiques....

I just got back from the New Orleans Jazz Fest and upon my return received
a present from Com Ed's tour manager, Dr.Kurt Stern, that I found so
amazing I had to run to the computer to share it with you. It's a 45 of The
Ritchie Family ("The Best Disco In Town") performing "Quiet Village"! Over
the opening riff, they chant "You sexy baby turn me on/ Keep rockin' steady
all night long" before the melody is taken over by an exotic Moog, all to a
throbbing disco beat. The flipside,"Voodoo" at times sounds like a disco
version of an outtake from "Tamboo", but was in fact written by Jacques
"the Puppetmaster behind The Village People" Morali. Has anybody heard this
record? The best thing is,it's really good!

Between this and the revelation that Peter Thomas ,along with his
associates Giorgio Moroder and Keith Forsey,discovered Donnas Summer, I
have a whole new perspective on the Exotica/Disco connection. I felt like I
had discovered the coelacanth or the top quark when this disc was put into
my hands!

Boogie-oogie-oogie,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 08 May 1997 00:13:57 -0400 (EDT)

Greetings Exotiques....

I just got back from the New Orleans Jazz Fest and upon my return received
a present from Com Ed's tour manager, Dr.Kurt Stern, that I found so
amazing I had to run to the computer to share it with you. It's a 45 of The
Ritchie Family ("The Best Disco In Town") performing "Quiet Village"! Over
the opening riff, they chant "You sexy baby turn me on/ Keep rockin' steady
all night long" before the melody is taken over by an exotic Moog, all to a
throbbing disco beat. The flipside,"Voodoo" at times sounds like a disco
version of an outtake from "Tamboo", but was in fact written by Jacques
"the Puppetmaster behind The Village People" Morali. Has anybody heard this
record? The best thing is,it's really good!

Between this and the revelation that Peter Thomas ,along with his
associates Giorgio Moroder and Keith Forsey,discovered Donnas Summer, I
have a whole new perspective on the Exotica/Disco connection. I felt like I
had discovered the coelacanth or the top quark when this disc was put into
my hands!

Boogie-oogie-oogie,
Thee Millionaire






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From: "Trick Velour, TV Eye" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 08 May 1997 00:42:00 -0400

>
> The best thing is,it's really good!
>
> have a whole new perspective on the Exotica/Disco connection. I felt >like I had discovered the coelacanth or the top quark when this disc >was put into my hands!
>
> > Boogie-oogie-oogie,
> > Thee Millionaire

OH DEAR SWEET MOTHER OF GOD, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I just know it! The next ComEd album is gonna end
up being a disco album! That's it, I can't take it!

If anybody needs me I'll be in the
kitchen with my head in the oven.

Lovin' Soul, Diggin' Funk,
and *STILL* Not Likin' Disco,
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From: [e-mail] (Jill Mingo)
Subject: (exotica) Baywatch tikis?
Date: 08 May 1997 03:57:12 -0600

I live in the UK, and I'm sure Baywatch is about 2 years behind the States,
but has anyone else seen the episode that MTV does some sort of Beach games
to raise money for the Special Olympics? Well, if you haven't, there are
several tikis on the "set" of the games, including a dancing tiki man!

They were pretty fab. PLEASE don't ask what I was doing watching Baywatch!
It was a pretty bad weekend on the social front.....

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From: [e-mail] (Jill Mingo)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 08 May 1997 04:06:02 -0600


>Between this and the revelation that Peter Thomas ,along with his
>associates Giorgio Moroder and Keith Forsey,discovered Donnas Summer, I
>have a whole new perspective on the Exotica/Disco connection. I felt like I
>had discovered the coelacanth or the top quark when this disc was put into
>my hands!

If this sort of sound is your cuppa, you should really check out the new LP
from the MERRICKS, "The Sound of Munich". Not quite full on disco, but that
lovely 70s Munich production sound - except a 1997 record. It is on Sub-Up
Records, Munich. Also might want to mention a fab Peter Thomas remix on
German label L'Age D'Or. It is on a remix project called THEMELADEN 2. I
don't know what the orginal track sounds like, but the Peter Thomas
orchestra does it a proud remix.  Could be hard for Yank Exoticats to find,
but worth it...

Jill "Mingo-go"





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From: Paul Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Past Month's finds
Date: 08 May 1997 12:26:47 -0400 (EDT)


here are some bargains I've picked up over the past month:

$2 and under
------------

Bobby Christian and his Orchestra:  "Strings for a Space Age"
  The first side is pretty much standard orchestral fare with a little
'sci-fi soundtrack'-type flourishes added, but the real stuff is on the
second side.  "Space Suite" cycles through different moods... some of it
in powerful overtures and others of an ethereal, cosmic manner.  I was
pleasantly surprised by this record (can't beat finding this in a flea
market bin in great shape).


Gershon Kingsley:  "Switched-On Gershwin"
  Disclaimer:  I am a Moog nut.  Picked this up for a buck at a Bach
society record sale.  Another disclaimer:  I'm a sucker for Rhapsody in
Blue (is that why I fly American???).  The first side is fourteen minutes
of RiB with Gershon and another guy on piano (Leonid Hamsho or something
like that) alternating between a straight piano rendition and interesting
but mild Moog fare.  The second side contains selections from Porgy and
Bess and is 100% Kingsley.  There is some really interesting Moog stuff
here... I don't know these songs in their original form, but my guess is
that they are loose renditions, sort of along the lines of Hayman's
"Latin Love Machine" (but without the psych sound).  I like this record.


$5 and under
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The Surfmen:  The Sounds of Exotic Island
  Had no idea who the Surfmen were until I read the liner notes (big time
group of jazz guys, I think Alvino Rey is one, other names escape me now).
Real bird calls, Denny-esque arrangements, wordless vocals.  Some
standards such as Quiet Village, Mountain High Valley Low, Taboo, etc.  This
is a very good record.  The cover alone is terrific, but the music is
A-1.



pablito!




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From: Laura Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: Re: (exotica) Disco Metal
Date: 08 May 1997 13:03:10 -0400



"It's just my nature to do weird stuff..."-Mr.  Leslie Baxter
Laura Taylor
[phone]
[e-mail]
Trick Velour, TV Eye wrote:
>>
>> The best thing is,it's really good!
>>
>> have a whole new perspective on the Exotica/Disco connection. I felt
>like I had
>discovered the coelacanth or the top quark when this disc >was put into
my hands!
>>
>> > Boogie-oogie-oogie,
>> > Thee Millionaire
>
>OH DEAR SWEET MOTHER OF GOD, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
>
>I just know it! The next ComEd album is gonna end
>up being a disco album! That's it, I can't take it!
>
>If anybody needs me I'll be in the
>kitchen with my head in the oven.
>
>Lovin' Soul, Diggin' Funk,
>and *STILL* Not Likin' Disco,
>Trick Velour, TV Eye
>
Ya'll aint' heard nuttin' until you've heard the disco version of WHOLE
LOTTA LOVE, on an album called STAIRWAY TO LOVE by...?  Can't
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From: Laura Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Outta me 'ead
Date: 08 May 1997 13:07:06 -0400

May 9th is my last day on-line, perhaps for a month, possibly forever.  I
just want to say you all have enriched my life musically and personally,
and I'll miss this daily routine, that prevented me from doing work ;0,
and for getting to know some of you.
Gotta cry now,
Lounge Laura
p-s:  snail and #s if you have not already!

"It's just my nature to do weird stuff..."-Mr.  Leslie Baxter
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From: [e-mail] (Br. Cleve)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 08 May 1997 13:44:24 -0400

The Millionaire wrote:

> a 45 of The Ritchie Family ("The Best Disco In Town") performing "Quiet
>Village"! ..... I
>have a whole new perspective on the Exotica/Disco connection.

I just found a record Ashley hipped me to months ago - it's by MFSB (The
Sound of Philadelphia), the group that did the original Soul Train Theme.
On this eponymous LP from '73, they do a glorius 'bump' version of
"Poinciana" (for those too young to remember the bump, think "Rock Your
Baby", "Rock The Boat" or "Clean Up Woman"). The cover art features a
syringe in a coffin.

As host of an EZ/exotic dance club, I've seen patrons getting down and
enjoying EZ Disco. Ray Conniff's late 70s records have lots of this stuff
(his version of "I Will Survive" is, um, well, amazing; or unique, to say
the least). Mancini's LP's from this era are littered with the style as
well. The grandaddy of all this stuff is the Boston Pops "Saturday Night
Fiedler", which features a 17-minute medley of songs from the Travolta
film, mixed in with things like "Night On Bald Mountain". Excellent for
DJ's who need to hit the rest room and get a fresh drink. For high camp,
nothing succeeds like excess.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tura
Date: 08 May 1997 13:58:09 -0400

> >    This is probably common knowledge, but Tura Satana (Varla in "Faster
> > Pussycat") plays both dancers in the Marseille club scene in "Our Man
> Flint". I
> > don't know if that's her in the solarized title sequence. ???

> I started this thread, and didn't know Tura was the dancer.

> knows? So please feel free to share these tidbits as you see fit.
>
> [e-mail]

Okay. Tura also appeared in (oh, heck, might as well list 'em all) "Irma la
Douce", "Who's Been Sleeping In My Bed", "Faster Pussycat", "Our Man Flint",
"The Astro-Zombies" and "The Doll Squad". Also TV appearances on "Hawaiian
Eye", "Burke's Law", "Valentine's Day", "The Greatest Show On Earth", "Ben
Casey", "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." and "The Girl From U.N.C.L.E." Never mind
Elvis -- TURA is everywhere! This info comes from a very long 2 part interview
with Tura in issues 5 & 6 of Tease! magazine. She's got a LOT of great stories.

m.ace
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From: [e-mail] (Br. Cleve)
Subject: RE: Re: (exotica) Disco Metal
Date: 08 May 1997 14:04:05 -0400

Lounge Laura wrote:
>Ya'll aint' heard nuttin' until you've heard the disco version of WHOLE
>LOTTA LOVE, on an album called STAIRWAY TO LOVE by...?  Can't
>remember

And don't miss the excellent EZ Funk version of the same song on Deiter
Zimmermann and His Orchestra's "My World". (also features an incredibly
bizarre EZ version of "Honky Tonk Women" that you wouldn't recognize if the
song title wasn't listed). Another incredible discovery by Ashley "Boogie
Oogie Oogie" Warren.

gettin down on it,
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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jack Diamond Music
Date: 08 May 1997 11:30:48 -0700

Hello,

My name's Jack and I sell high quality previously enjoyed records from
primarily the late 1940's through the 70's, specializing in BUT not
limited to;

Exotica, Space Age Pop, West Coast Jazz, Beatnik Poetry, Spoken Word,
Steel Guitars, 60's Instrumental Guitar, TV and Film Soundtracks, Easy
Listening, Beatnik and Private Eye Jazz, Outer Space Exotica, Wordless
Vocals, Male and Female Jazz/Jazz Pop Vocals, Moog, Musique Concrete,
Electronics, Psychedelic, Blues, R & B, Jump, Rockabilly, Country Jazz,
Theremin, Nude/Cheesecake Album Covers, Jungley Tropical Rhythms
Pounding Out Voodoo Beams of Love and Erotica AND much much more;)

Much of the music that I play on my radio show at KFJC-FM
(http://www.kfjc.org)
KFJC now has an Audio Feed at their web site and you just may be able to
pickj us up through your computer!  It's a god dman miracle

Some of the LP's are expensive and some are not but 1 thing is for sure is
that I don't sell junk.  All killer no filler

I have an e-mail mailing list in which I send out lists of LP's I have
for sale that are graded Goldmine Collecting Standards *strict*, that
have extensive "Liner Notes" describing the sounds that lie within the
grooves leaving nothing to the imagination ;)

Those people see my lists long before they get to the marketplace
newsgroups

Do you want to be on my e-mail mailing list ?  If so then just reply
with a "Hey Jack!  Please add me to your mailing list dude" or some
reasonable facsimile there of;)  If not, then just don't.

Thank you very much for your time and bye for now.

Sincerely,
Jack Diamond










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From: Tony Wilds <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 08 May 1997 15:50:05 -0400

>for those too young to remember the bump, think "Rock Your Baby", "Rock The
Boat" or "Clean Up Woman").

Think "Bertha Butt Boogie" (or Troglodyte) by DC's Jimmie Castor Bunch. Ah,
the thrill of the Augusta, GA roller rink in 1974-5.

>enjoying EZ Disco.

Sandy Nelson did one in 1975 that has Rock the Boat in a medley plus some
other goodies; it has that "SWAT-theme" waka-waka guitar sound (only reason
to revisit the '70s).

Perhaps the cheesiest (except for Br Cleve's own Swingin' Erudites, which is
also the best) is New Jersey's King Henry and the Showmen's disco Goldfinger
and More or something.

But enough. Disco still sucks, whether ambient or jackhammered.

Maracas in a twist,
tony
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From: Laura Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FWD: disco/zep
Date: 08 May 1997 15:57:02 -0400



"It's just my nature to do weird stuff..."-Mr.  Leslie Baxter
Laura Taylor
[phone]
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Ya'll aint' heard nuttin' until you've heard the disco version of WHOLE
LOTTA LOVE, on an album called STAIRWAY TO LOVE by...?  Can't
remember...

i have that...it is the Wonder Band..i have the 12"
i also have in a gadda da vida by the Disco Circus.

keep it cuming....

BuMp
Defective Records
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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 08 May 1997 13:06:02 -0700

Br. Cleve wrote:

> The grandaddy of all this stuff is the Boston Pops "Saturday Night
> Fiedler", which features a 17-minute medley of songs from the Travolta
> film, mixed in with things like "Night On Bald Mountain". Excellent for
> DJ's who need to hit the rest room and get a fresh drink. For high camp,
> nothing succeeds like excess.
>
Plus, the cover of that one is truly priceless...

Let's not forget Enoch Light's disco double album. There's no "exotic"
standards on it, and the arrangements don't sound anything like older
Enoch Light stuff, but it's worth having because it was certainly one of
the very last albums he produced. I suspect he farmed off most if not
all of the work, but he did apparently pen the liner notes, in which he
expresses his love for disco (Carol Channing introduced it to him!!)....

anyway...

--
                        Pea Hicks
               "Memory is my drug of choice."
               <---Realm 'O' The Optigan--->
               http://www.pilot.com/optigan
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tura
Date: 08 May 1997 18:22:04 -0400

(apologies for the mess, but my email's a little screwy and this came back to
me the first time I tried sending it -- apologies in advance if Take 1 got
through anyway, somehow, and you now wind up with duplicates)

> > This is probably common knowledge, but Tura Satana (Varla in "Faster
> > Pussycat") plays both dancers in the Marseille club scene in "Our Man
> > Flint". I don't know if that's her in the solarized title sequence. ???

> I started this thread, and didn't know Tura was the dancer.
> So please feel free to share these tidbits as you see fit.
>
> [e-mail]

Okay. Tura also appeared in (oh, heck, might as well list 'em all) "Irma la
Douce", "Who's Been Sleeping In My Bed", "Faster Pussycat", "Our Man Flint",
"The Astro-Zombies" and "The Doll Squad". Also TV appearances on "Hawaiian
Eye", "Burke's Law", "Valentine's Day", "The Greatest Show On Earth", "Ben
Casey", "The Man From U.N.C.L.E." and "The Girl From U.N.C.L.E." Never mind
Elvis -- TURA is everywhere! This info comes from a very long 2 part interview
with Tura in issues 5 & 6 of Tease! magazine. She's got a LOT of great stories.

m.ace
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Julie Julie Julie do ya love me?
Date: 08 May 1997 18:20:24 -0400 (EDT)

To Byron--thanks for bringing up Julie London's Marlboro commercials--"You
get a lot to like with a Marlboro, filter, flavor, flip-top box". That was my
only exposure to her until the early 8T's when I bought one of those poorly
made re-issues of her work. I was intrigued by her smoky sultriness in the
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Subject: (exotica) Ritchie Family
Date: 08 May 1997 18:23:20 -0400 (EDT)

Funny you should bring the Ritchie Family up, Thee. I just re-discovered them
on saturday duringr a mobile DJ gig. "Quiet Village" is on The Best of Disco
1977 on Rhino, and I had to get a 13 year-old at the Bar Mitzvah to read me
the author because the print was too small. (Always something there to remind
ye:) the Ritchie Family had a radio hit in 1975 with "a disco-fied "Brazil"


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From: Tony Wilds <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Blue Note Sabu and more at Wilds Sounds
Date: 08 May 1997 18:25:51 -0400

Wilds Sounds -- Exotic & Space-Age Records has new stuff every week. Shop on
the Web at your leisure, bookmark it, or just research. Also enjoy the
full-tilt record lore and exotemporium of the Wilds Scene.

_Major_ categories are marked "*" below; major artists and idioms follow.
Other artists are in the "Misc" (miscellaneous) sections.

EXOTIC LIST
-----------
*Calypso: "The Big Bamboo," Talbot Bros, Misc Calypso
*Exotica: Adventures in Sound, Les Baxter, Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman,
Alvino Rey, Roy Smeck, Yma Sumac, Surfmen, Misc Exotica, Polynesian video
*Hawaiian: 49th State and Hula Records, Hal Aloma, Misc Hawaiian, Luau Special
*Africa/Orient: Sabu Martinez, Misc African/Oriental/Israeli
*Latin: Francis Bay, Xavier Cugat, Carmen Miranda, Perez Prado, Tito
Rodriguez, Edmundo Ros, Walter Wanderly, Misc Latin

ATOMIC LIST
-----------
*Jazz: Cal Tjader, Misc Jazz (and crime)
*Keyboards: Misc Moog, Misc Organ
*Space-Age Pop: Esquivel, Mickey Katz, Heino, Henry Mancini, Ennio Morricone
STs, Nino Rota STs, Stereo Action Series, theremin, Bob Thompson, Dance
Rock/Twist, Misc Instrumental Pop
*Torch Singers: Ann-Margret, Eartha Kitt, Abbe Lane, Della Reese, Misc
Female Vocal

ECLECTIC LIST
-------------
*Golden Throats, Bawdy Songs, Gypsy, drum instruction, sitar
*Rock and Soul: Ventures, Misc Rock/Rockabilly/Hot Rod/Surf, Misc
Soul/Funk/New Orleans/Blues
*Soundtracks: Bible-epic, secular
*Modern Records
*Compact Discs
*78 rpm
*Sheet Music

Tony Wilds
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) DJ action
Date: 08 May 1997 18:26:40 -0400 (EDT)

Attention Boston people. Brother Cleve and myself are alternating Sunday
evenings at Bella Luna in Jamaica Plain's Hyde Square on alternating Sundaze
beginning on May 18. Starting at 9 on the 18th will be Cleve with his mix,
Memorial Weekend is off, and I start June 1 at 9 with mine's. There WILL be a
disco connection---Jimmy Botticelli


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Subject: (exotica) Julie Julie Julie do ya love me?
Date: 08 May 1997 18:31:51 -0400 (EDT)

To Byron--thanks for bringing up Julie London's Marlboro commercials--"You
get a lot to like with a Marlboro, filter, flavor, flip-top box". That was my
only exposure to her until the early 8T's when I bought one of those poorly
made re-issues of her work. I was intrigued by her smoky sultriness in the
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From: Tony Wilds <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Julie London promo poster
Date: 08 May 1997 18:43:15 -0400

>I was intrigued by her smoky sultriness in the ad but had no idea she was
SOMEBODY

Local LP-store man told me today about a Smirnoff Vodka(tm) and Julie London
promotion. Evidently it's a mock gatefold with several "paper LPs" one would
stick up on the wall. The best part, he says, is a fold-out poster of Ms.
London -- "mint," he says proudly.

But not liking vodka, I'll stick with the Lady in Red (dear Abbe Lane) --
the only LP jacket on my wall, and only partly bc it's an extra.

sunday morning fever tony
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 08 May 1997 18:44:07 -0400

>I
>have a whole new perspective on the Exotica/Disco connection. I felt like I
>had discovered the coelacanth or the top quark when this disc was put into
>my hands!

I've posted about this before, but you folks really MUST hear Ferrante and
Teicher's 1979 LP _Classical Disco_. It is one truly mindbending experience.

--Ross

p.s. Trick. . .

>If anybody needs me I'll be in the
>kitchen with my head in the oven.

Can I have your records? I asked first!!!

 --Ross

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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) KFJC Listener Appreciation Party
Date: 08 May 1997 23:11:21 -0700

The KFJC (89.7FM) Listener Appreciation Party will be happening at Camino
Bowl in Mountain View, CA at 2025 El Camino Real on Saturday Mayhem 24th, 1997

At KFJC we call the month after April MAYHEM, because much of our regular
programming is pre-empted due to tremendous amounts of other worldly music
specials.
Tonight for example was a 3 hour special on the MOOG hosted by Eeyore.

Please peruse by at your leisure http://www.kfjc.org and check out what
non-commercial radio 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year is all
about like you have never experienced in all of your wildest dreams.

Check out the immense and insanely informative KFJC Music Database Keyword
Search or the hundreds if not thousands of CD, LP and 7" vinyl reviews by a
bevy of lovely and attractive (smart too) KFJC rekkid/cd reviewers

The KFJC Listener Appreciation Party will include FREE BOWLING for a
minimum of 6 hours, hopefully some food/munchies as well as supplying audio
delights in the form of its on air staff as well as the LIVE entertainment
of country jazz guitar great Jim Campilongo (a cross between Jimmy
Bryant/Barney Kessel/Roy Lanham), Noisician; Miss Mergatroid and her very
fucked up accordian and then of course there is Tipsy.

Gonna be a happenin' thang on Saturday, MAYHEM 24th at Camino Bowl in Mt
View, CA starting at 7PM.

Please stop by and say hello if you can

Thank you for listening,
Jack Diamond


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Ms. (?) Julie London
Date: 09 May 1997 02:20:33 -0400

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

> Byron Caloz wrote:
> 1.  There are some good websites with info specific to Ms. London and others
> that are, in general, good for music reference questions.

Calling her "Ms." Julie London is surely a misnomer. Certain grande
dames of song were always popularly known as "Miss," including Edie
Adams, Peggy Lee, Della Reese, and London. This was not derogatory, as
these ladies were never competing with men or making a political
statement about equality. They were, unquestionably, BETTER than most
men, and didn't need feminist dogma to prove it.

--Irwin Chusid

P.S. For a real stunner, check out Julie's sultry rendition of "The
Mickey Mouse Club Theme" on the album NICE GIRLS DON'T STAY FOR
BREAKFAST. She sounds deliriously potted. I don't think Disney would
have wanted his Mouseketeers to hear this gimlet-eyed version.

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From: Cherie Davis <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 08 May 1997 17:14:59 -0400 (EDT)

Everyone needs to listen to the Ethel Merman Disco Album...If you haven't
heard "Everything's Coming Up Roses" to a disco beat, you haven't lived

>Let's not forget Enoch Light's disco double album. There's no "exotic"
>standards on it, and the arrangements don't sound anything like older
>Enoch Light stuff, but it's worth having because it was certainly one of
>the very last albums he produced. I suspect he farmed off most if not
>all of the work, but he did apparently pen the liner notes, in which he
>expresses his love for disco (Carol Channing introduced it to him!!)....

and as for the "Disco Sucks" crew...No music sucks, it just isn't what one
would prefer at that point. There are few greater mindless pleasures than
an ABBA album (my release of ABBA Gold on CD came with its very own gold
mirror ball keychain) How could that suck?

I would think that most of us on this list would have a sense of humor
about music in general.

Cherie
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 09 May 1997 08:39:43 -0400 (EDT)

And on Wall Street the value investor buys what is currently out of favor at
bargain prices.  I dont buy music for investment purposes, but keep reading
about a while back when record store bargain bins were filled with Esquivel,
Baxter, Denny, et al.
Now when I go to my store with the $.99 for one, 10 for $20 bargain bins,
once ive found 5 or 6 dollar LP's I might as well buy 20.   Gotta find
something else,  so often end up with a few  disco LP's, esp those with
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 09 May 1997 09:21:03 -0400

>I
>have a whole new perspective on the Exotica/Disco connection. I felt like I
>had discovered the coelacanth or the top quark when this disc was put into
>my hands!

I've posted about this before, but you folks really MUST hear Ferrante and
Teicher's 1979 LP _Classical Disco_. It is one truly mindbending experience.

--Ross

p.s. Trick. . .

>If anybody needs me I'll be in the
>kitchen with my head in the oven.

Can I have your records? I asked first!!!

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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From: Laura Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Last minute important biz
Date: 09 May 1997 11:13:44 -0400

1.  Rest easy, those of you kind enough to like the bands I've been in, I
have something *almost* completely set up in Boston.  I'm not going to
describe the genre, as it may pigeon-hole us.  But here's what we'll be
using:  THEREMIN, MOOG, HAMMOND, KURZWEIL, and of course, guitar, bass,
and this gal singing and making screaming, uh, orgasm sounds.  WE NEED A
DRUMMER.  So if you live in the Boston area and are a drummer, or just
look like one, or play one on TV-I NEED YOU!  Serious inquiries only!  I
haven't told my bandmate/boyfriend that I'm posting this, so I'm not
very comfortable giving out his # at this time.  So, what you could do
cheaply is send a post-card to
3515 W.  SAN PEDRO ST.
TAMPA, FL 33629
TAMPA, FL 33629
or write Exotique Elaine:
 [e-mail]
and she could tell me.

2.  ATTN:  SAN FRAN: My paramour and I are contemplating a visit there
this fall.  Please someone give me a way that we can do cool lounge
stuff and see giant tikis, etc...I s'pose the Tonga Room is still
swingin'...
What I can also do for a forwarding address is give it to some on-line
Boston friends and they could post it for me.  "We can work it out."
All my lovin',
Lounge Laura Lennon

"It's just my nature to do weird stuff..."-Mr.  Leslie Baxter
Laura Taylor
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 09 May 1997 15:32:42 -0400

> and as for the "Disco Sucks" crew...No music sucks, it just isn't what one
> would prefer at that point.
>
> I would think that most of us on this list would have a sense of humor
> about music in general.
>
> Cherie
> [e-mail]
> www.chaoskitty.com
> Women of Exotica, Lounge & Easy Listening

Indeed! As I babble on at my (not ready yet) website...
Art is not good or bad. It simply is what it is and we have a subjective
reaction to it. That reaction can be different every time, too. So don't judge
-- just experience (sez the guy who can't stand other people's radios).

m.ace
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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 09 May 1997 15:47:34 -0500

I've been collecting cheez-ze Euro disco for about eight months now ( as
distinct from underground disco classics) and let me tell you its out there!
Look for Brazilian productions with sexy female vocals for ex. I don't have my
records infront of me at the moment but I'll try to post a few titles in the
near future. I don't know the Ritchie family track, but you've now sent me on a
hunt. thanks for the info.

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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 09 May 1997 16:20:34 -0500

<bold>Tony Wildssez

</bold><x-quoted>But enough. Disco still sucks, whether ambient or jackhamm=
ered.

</x-quoted>
Unfortunately (and this is not directed necessarily to you ,tony) I think t=
hat a lot of the =22disco sucks=22 attitude of which I, myself was once a p=
arty to back in 1977-'78 when I was 16 years old ( I liked fusion, argh=21)=
 grows from a misinterpretation of what  and where disco comes from.


 I will now suggest a short personal listening list. You may throw it in th=
e trash if you see fit, check it out or find that you already know a number=
 of these songs and possibly even like them=21=20


Give it Up Turn It Loose - James Brown

Don't Leave Me This Way & Bad Luck - Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes

Love Is the Message ( 12=22 edit) - MFSB
=0A
The Ghetto ( Live and studio ver.) - Donny Hathaway

The Bottle - Gil Scott Heron

I Get Lifted - KC & the Sunshine Band

Bra - Cymande

Who Is He and What Is He To You - Creative Source


P.S.  This may be old news to some of you but I just had to put my two cent=
s in.  This is music I love and still play constantly every week when I D.J=
. and they still pack the floor.


Jonny Sender





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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Disco Octopus!
Date: 09 May 1997 17:05:20 +0100


Beatles easy/disco.....

 A Pioneer Stereo demonstration record from Japan.....

 Made in the seventies.....

A nicely drawn cover with cute octopusses  and a little japanese with=20
moustach and a headset.

I HAVE IT  -  HAVE YOU??

God made Exotic Disco for good people like  y=B4all!
Have a nice weekend!
Magnus


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From: [e-mail] (Subliminal Sounds)
Subject: (exotica) Disco Sucks
Date: 10 May 1997 00:26:08 +0200 (MET DST)

Since the disco fever seems to be catching on I would like to know if anyone=
=20
knows if the soundtrack to Rudy Ray Moore=B4s priceless PCP movie "Disco=20
Godfather" was ever put on vinyl or CD? And if so; anyone got a spare copy?

Stefan/Subliminal Sounds & Stuff=20



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From: "Mark A. Welsh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bernard Herrmann
Date: 10 May 1997 02:18:48 -0500

[e-mail] wrote:
>
>      We just got back from London where we found the time to see
>      Hitchcock's 1958 "Vertigo" at the wonderful Lumiere cinema. Brand new
>      print (probably the cleanest print I've seen of *any* movie), 70mm,
>      and that Herrmann score! It literally took my breath away.
My favorite Hitch movie,favorite Herrmann score.  Just bought the CD.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 10 May 1997 10:30:25 -0400 (EDT)

One of our group wrote:

<< Art is not good or bad. It simply is what it is and we have a subjective
reaction to it.>>

Well, I have to disagree!!  Music tends to be more subjective than other art
forms, I think --  however, there really IS good and bad art!  There are some
objective standards.  Think of REALLY derivative music - or painting!!  Think
of poor musicianship, poetry full of cliches and stilted emotionalism.
 Remember the sculpture in "Beetlejuice" or Richard Dreyfus playing the "gay
Richard III" in "Goodbye Girl."  These all are BAD ART!!!

Disco is NOT bad art.  Disco is art that some people don't like.  As is
blues, German opera, Gershwin, ska, zydeco, punk, etc.  One of the great
benefits of learning about art is that it broadens your views about the world
around you, don't you think?

Carolyn


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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 10 May 1997 09:29:23 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> One of our group wrote:
>
> << Art is not good or bad. It simply is what it is and we have a subjective
> reaction to it.>>
>
> Well, I have to disagree!!  Music tends to be more subjective than other art
> forms, I think --  however, there really IS good and bad art!  There are some
> objective standards.  Think of REALLY derivative music - or painting!!  Think
> of poor musicianship,

Think of The Shaggs, or anything else in the so-bad-it's-good category.
Context is everything.
--
                        Pea Hicks
               "Memory is my drug of choice."
               <---Realm 'O' The Optigan--->
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 10 May 1997 19:21:35 -0400 (EDT)

And another writer:

<<
 Think of The Shaggs, or anything else in the so-bad-it's-good category.
 Context is everything. >>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Well, actually, in art, context is hardly anything!!  It may be
so-bad-it's-fun, so-bad-it's-a-hoot, so-bad-it's-campy, so-bad-it's-trendy --
but in strict artistic terms, there AIN'T NO SUCH THING as so-bad-it's-good.


Is Velveeta as "good" as a beautifully aged Brie?  No, it may be what you
prefer occasionally, but it will never be as "good."  I love some really
awful movies ("From Hell It Came"  "The Killer Shrews")   -- but are they
"good?"   Absolutely NOT!!  They're fun, they make me laugh, but they're
crap, no doubt about it.

Just because we like it doesn't mean it's good!!  Just because we don't like
it doesn't mean it's not art!  There really, really ARE objective standards
in art -- and to deny that fact is (and there is no tactful way to say this)
to show an ignorance of what art is.

Is this another one of "those" topics??

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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 10 May 1997 18:38:27 -0500

<bold>TheR0Coco=40aol.com,internet writes:

</bold><x-quoted>Well, I have to disagree=21=21  Music tends to be more sub=
jective than other art

forms, I think --  however, there really IS good and bad art=21  There are =
some

objective standards. </x-quoted>...<x-quoted>  One of the great

benefits of learning about art is that it broadens your views about the wor=
ld

around you, don't you think?

</x-quoted>
Uh-huh, i have to agree.


Jonny Sender





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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 10 May 1997 21:44:57 -0400

< Is this another one of "those" topics??

If you mean, squishy and amorphous, I would say yes, it sure seems that way
(blind men and elephants come to mind). Or how about, the "subjectivity of art"
is itself subjective?

I don't think that we're really in that big a disagreement here -- we all seem
to feel that an open mind is a good thing and that one should not dismiss any
artwork hastily. We just have some differences in our approach to the issue.

< Think of The Shaggs, or anything else in the so-bad-it's-good category.

Actually, I don't believe in "so bad it's good" either. It seems like a way of
holding yourself above the work in question. If I like something, I try to
embrace it without irony. And if someone thinks I'm stupid for liking it, OK --
I'm stupid, but at least I'm direct about it.

> Just because we like it doesn't mean it's good!!  Just because we don't like
> it doesn't mean it's not art!  There really, really ARE objective standards
> in art -- and to deny that fact is (and there is no tactful way to say this)
> to show an ignorance of what art is.

Good points that I partially agree with, except I have trouble with the
objective standards bit. Because standards have a knack for changing through
time. Works that were considered crap at the time of their creation can become
masterpieces in later centuries, while works that were the hot zoot when
created, wind up in the dust bin. In either case this may be just or unjust.
And it may change again in another century. I'm supposed to hang my hat on
these liquid standards? "What art is?" Art is that which is produced by the
artist's mediation between his/her inner and outer worlds.

> One of the great benefits of learning about art is that it broadens your
> views about the world around you, don't you think?

100% agreement.

> Remember the sculpture in "Beetlejuice" or Richard Dreyfus playing
> the "gay Richard III" in "Goodbye Girl."  These all are BAD ART!!!

These are interesting examples in that they are (gosh, how to phrase it?) sort
of "fictional" art nested in larger artworks -- and to fulfill their function
in the "host" work, were designed to conform to commonly accepted cliches of
"badness." Hmmm. Can anyone think of other examples (THAT MIGHT BE MORE
ON-TOPIC)?

To save space here on the list (too late?), here's a link
http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/nobad.html
to an article I have at my website. It blabbers on about avoiding good/bad
categories in a more detailed and organized manner than I can manage here. It
should really give you a laugh. The website around it is not up to strength
yet, but you're welcome anyway. It's still painfully thin on content and
graphics (although I kinda like the low-bandwidth), and way too much of it is
by me (a situation that will change with time, I hope, hint). So drop on by if
you wish. Site feedback (quite welcome) should probably be kept off-list.

I'm enjoying discussing these issues, but I'm afraid of getting too off-topic
(and I'm definitely going on too long -- VERY SORRY), although we aren't
off-topic at all, in a sense.

These were my subjective opinions on subjectivity. Your own are also valid.

Anyway, I always thought Marcel Duchamp blew the categorical walls out in 1913
with "Roue de Bicyclette".


m.ace
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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 10 May 1997 20:04:52 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> And another writer:
(my name is Pea, by the way)
>
> <<
>  Think of The Shaggs, or anything else in the so-bad-it's-good category.
>  Context is everything. >>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Well, actually, in art, context is hardly anything!!  It may be
> so-bad-it's-fun, so-bad-it's-a-hoot, so-bad-it's-campy, so-bad-it's-trendy --
> but in strict artistic terms, there AIN'T NO SUCH THING as so-bad-it's-good.
>
>
> Is Velveeta as "good" as a beautifully aged Brie?  No, it may be what you
> prefer occasionally, but it will never be as "good."  I love some really
> awful movies ("From Hell It Came"  "The Killer Shrews")   -- but are they
> "good?"   Absolutely NOT!!  They're fun, they make me laugh, but they're
> crap, no doubt about it.
>
> Just because we like it doesn't mean it's good!!

Well, that obviously depends on how you define "good." If it makes you
laugh or invokes pleasure in some way, I have a hard time seeing how
that's not "good." I don't want to belabor the semantic issues here,
but...

I'll sum up my view of "art" by saying that I respond to art in
primarily two ways- intellectual and visceral. Most people might say
that a visceral reaction or interest/disinterest in art is the only
"valid" one, but I disagree. I'm *hugely* interested in a vast range of
music that doesn't really float my boat as
groove-out-while-driving-in-my-car type music. My interest in such
things (alot of 20th century art music, for example) is predominently
intellectual. I have an aesthetic attraction to the inner workings and
social contexts that gave rise to such works and ideas. Other kinds of
music evoke a purely visceral response in me- that's the kind of stuff
that I'll put on tape to listen to in the car. I don't overanalyze it- I
just like it.

For me the ultimate musical experiences are ones which involve equal
parts intellectual and visceral enjoyment. The Shaggs would be a good
example- the situation surrounding the genesis of that music satisfies
my intellect (not just my sense of humor), and the music itself evokes a
very pleasant visceral response in me. At the end of the day- it
wouldn't matter where that music came from- I just really like it. It's
very funny but also can be very haunting. All of these things combined
make it, for me, a textbook example of a "successful" piece of "serious"
art. Hence, "good."

The thing I like about the phrase "so bad it's good" is that it mixes
meanings. the terms "bad" and "good" don't come from the same areas in
this usage. The phrase doesn't necessarily imply that "good" be used as
a synonym for "funny" or "ironic." more often than not, for me the term
"good" here is synonymous with "haunting." I've often used this same
phrase to describe things like pre-Baroque keyboard tuning systems (ie
non-equal tempered systems) used to play pieces from the period because,
to our modern western ears, that stuff can sound *really* out of tune,
or very "badly" tuned, but of course the music was written with these
tunings in mind and so the net result is that it sounds really "good,"
unless of course you don't have the patience or inclination to get
inside the music.

Maybe that's not a crystal clear or perfect example of what I'm talking
about, but I don't want to drag this on too long either, so....
--
                        Pea Hicks
               "Memory is my drug of choice."
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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for Jack, 4-27-97
Date: 10 May 1997 21:58:59 -0700

 KFJC play list 4/27/97 for Jack Diamond

 ARTIST                TRACK                        ALBUM
____________________________________________________________________________
__________
 Planets               Chunky
 Howard Rumsey         Jimmy Guiffre,Shorty Rogers  Frank Patchen
 Lighthouse            Milt Bernhart,M.Ferguson     1953, 1ST Lp,Live
 All Stars             Four Others
 101 Strings           Blues for the Guru           Sound of Today
 John Barry            A Man Alone                  Ipcress File
 Harry Breuer          TV Funeral March
 George Cates Orch.    Quiet Village
 Rex Garvin            Strange Happenings
 George Duning         Suzie Wong Blues             World of Suzie Wong
 Hot Butter            Pop Corn                     1972
 Group One             Fallout                      Wordless Vocals
 Riz Ortolani          La Croisette                 Women of the World
 Esquivel              Aqua De Beber                Genius Of...
 Gabor Szabo           Paint It Black               Jazz Raga
 Fabulous Jokers       Saturnus!
 Don Tiki with                                      Exotic Sounds of
 Martin Denny!         Exotica '97                  Don Tiki
 June Christy W/       This Is My Theme             1947
 Jack Costanzo & Stan Kenton Orchestra
 Ray Heindorf Orch     W/ Sam Hoffman-Theremin      Spellbound
                       The Burned Hand
 Lyle Murphy Octet     Lost in a Fugue              10", Red Vinyl
 Ferrante & Teicher    Bye Bye Blues
 Quincy Jones          Aftermath                    Slender Thread
 Ananda Shankar        Snow Flower                  1970
 Elec. Concept Orch    Rock Me                      John Kay Tune
 Jerry Fielding Orch   Hide and Seek Underground    Scorpio
 Leda Annest/Phil Moore/Portrait of Leda Pt 2       Columbia
 Mary Osbourne         I Let a Song Go Out...       Warwick, 1959
 Jack Kerouac          Abraham                      Hanover
 Fortune Tellers       Spaghetti Twist              Kapp
 Ken Nordine           What Time Izzzzit?????????   Word Jazz, 57
 Ennio Morricone       The Odds                     Malamondo
 Vicki Carr            The Silencers
 Phil Moore Orch       Night Bloomin' Trashman      N.Y.Sweet
 Leith Stevens Orch W/ Paul Frees-Spoken Word       Exploring the
 Walter Schumann Voices         The Comets             Unknown, 1955
 Chim Kothari          Cast Your Fate to the Wind   Sitar
 Kenny Burrell         Bye and Bye                  1961
 Wendy and Bonnie      The Winter Is Cold           Skye
 Lalo Schifrin         The Shadow                   Mannix
 Del Close/John Brent  The R I F F                  How to Speak Hip
 Lambert,Hendricks,Ross/1 O'clock Jump
 Lloyd Green           Green Strings                Nashville, 66
 Davey Allen/Arrows    The Ghost Story              Devils Angels
 Rod Mckuen            R.S.V.P.                     Beatsville
 David Amram           Switchblades on Parade       Young Savages
 Bernard Herrmann      Day the Earth Stood Still    (3 Cues)1974
 Leith Stevens         The Thin Man
 Pete Rugolo           Diamond on the Move

KFJC 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
(Studio) 415-325-2284
Click on DJ Playlists;
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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) KFJC Studio Line
Date: 10 May 1997 22:42:51 -0700

Addendum to KFJC Studio Line;
415-941-2500


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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lalo Schifrin-Quiet Village
Date: 10 May 1997 22:46:38 -0700

I just listened to THE MOST unrecognizable and INSANE FUNK version of Les
Baxter's Quiet Village I ever heard!

It's on an LP called Black Widow on CTI.
Circa 1974

Gonna play it tomorrow morning for sure;-)>

Jack



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From: Tony Wilds <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 11 May 1997 13:41:32 -0400

>Give it Up Turn It Loose - James Brown

Hey, it's my old neighbor, (JB)!

Okay, this is the kind of fish I was[n't] baiting for. Truly, I thought
ironically referring to the '70s bumper sticker would be safe, but
apparently the "sense of humor" crew *remember* only the mirrored ball, not
the sick-of-it, make-it-stop-finally reaction. The history of dance music,
need I remind non-fans of the Buddy Deane show and calypso, is competitive,
restless, and always on the prowl for the next thing.

"Bomp, bomp, bubba-domp...the Bertha Butt Boogie was now the thing to do..."

Funk (as in Meters) is the kind of "disco" I like, although what a small
section it is compared to the decades of dance music before [that flash in
the pan]: discotheque music (twist, frug, monkey, swim...), the many
varieties of Latin, samba, boogaloo, hula, calypso, etc. Then there were all
those rock things: stroll, slop, shag... Of course, most of those required
actually learning how to dance...

There's an inordinant emphasis on "cold" music (electronic, modern, CD,
club) for a list that is ostensibly about exotica (warm, passionate,
foreign, ethnic, historic). If you're bored with exotica, dance. Fine. Make
mine 3 Mustaphas 3 at the Krazy Loquat. But it is possible to blend exotica
and dance very successfully using unusual records. A great DJ in Baltimore*
spins African music and wild sambas (if not the gamut of the African
diaspora), even mixing in rarest Sabu. It's very exotic, contemporary enough
for bass-heavy club sound systems, and compelling enough to get the naive
and fearful dancing to unfamiliar tunes.*

Then again, nothing beats a live, exotic party band, such as the beturbaned
Swingin' Swamis pounding out the "Tighten Up" or the dobro and string bass
spectacular that is the Hula Monsters doing "Ode to Billy Joe." Support your
local musicians.

Oops, forgot to have a sense of humor! Better duck.

*to DJ Bump: (Alan Rutberg at the Spot) -- Bump is another exotica club
leader here.

Wilds in the City of Charm
______________________________________________
The Wilds Scene   http://www.charm.net/~wilds/

LPs * Definitive EXOTICA * Sabu * Tiki Gallery

"That's why I live in Baltimore. Everyone doesn't have to be so damn witty
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 12 May 1997 11:20:31 -0400

To TheROCoco,

   Today it suddenly occurs to me that a bit of my last message might be
misinterpreted as me yelling at you to stay on-topic. No, no, no. I was only
yelling at myself. In my writing, I have a goofy habit of splitting off a
second voice that critiques the primary voice via parenthetical comments.
Still, I apologize for creating the possibility of this misinterpretation and
any annoyance it may have caused.
   Also, I've come up with an interesting argument against my "art is not good
or bad" thesis.
What about propaganda artworks that serve an evil cause?
   This whole subjective/objective topic is quicksand.

Sorry,

m.ace
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From: Paul Lewis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend Finds
Date: 12 May 1997 11:57:08 -0400 (EDT)


Here's some weekend finds....

$5 and Under
------------

Gil Trythall:  Switched on Nashville (Country Moog) NM-/NM-
Claude Denjean:  MOOG!  NM-/NM-

I passed on a "Delirium in HI-FI" in VG+/VG+ for $3... although I
realized later that I should have snagged it. (I'm turning into such a
condition freak).



also snagged Walter Carlos "Switched on Bach II" NM-/NM- and "By Request"
NM-/NM- for a bit over $5

I passed on some inexpensive Esquivels because I just couldn't part with
the cash.  I respect Juan, but there's so much more I'd rather have.
(I'm not saying Moog records are better than Esquivel, so don't get in a
tizzy).


good hunting!
pablito!


Paul Lewis                                      [e-mail]
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Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science
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From: Tony Wilds <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Frances Lai belly dance, NORAD Beatnik
Date: 12 May 1997 13:05:57 -0400

New LPs FYI,

The NORAD Band (North Am Air Defense Command), mentioned in ISM for tracking
Santa and "all man-made objects in space" according to these liners, does a
crime-jazzy number called "The Beatnik" on NORAD Band Presents a Mountain of
Music, c. 1968. Also Shangri-La, Zorba, Toboggan, Flirty Flutes, Jet Stream,
and others. Nifty program insert (two extra).

A 1975 Lebanese import, Hassan Abou Seoud's "Viva Belly Dance," is one of
the best of its kind. It has the mid-east organ very prominently a la Prado,
even a synth-sounding track suggestive of Oriental Moog. Covers of western
tunes include El Bimbo, Lai's Love Story, Viva Espana, and Borriquito. Very
danceable, excellent exotic disco.

Cheetah is one of those new "model" clubs in mid-town NYC -- expensive,
tacky, and dull ("I Will Survive" it no doubt will not). But, according to
the great liners on this "Where It's At" Audio Fidelity LP, it used to be a
famous psychedelic dance club in the footsteps of the Peppermint Lounge.
Anyone know about it? LP has the Thunder Frog Ensemble and others live.
Included an inflatable Cheetah pillow (Cheetah pet?) -- now that's value.

Finally, some *news* program on ABC ran a segment on lounge culture last
night. LA came off VERY WELL, with the Derby (is that it?) and lots of
people really dancing and having lots of fun. For bands they showed the
Squirrel Nut Zippers and something laboriously named Big Bad Voodoo Boy or
something, but they seemed to be doing it well. For the "dark side" of the
story (hey, it's TV news on the Disney network), they showed the 9s in
Manhattan, which predictably looked like a Nosferatu cast party, only more
evil. "Definitely about style over substance" was the closing.

tony
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LPs * Definitive EXOTICA * Sabu * Tiki Gallery

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE:Lalo Schifrin-Quiet Village
Date: 12 May 1997 20:06:03 +0100

>I just listened to THE MOST unrecognizable and INSANE FUNK version of Les
>Baxter's Quiet Village I ever heard!

>It's on an LP called Black Widow on CTI.
>Circa 1974

As I have mentioned earlier on the list  I  have the 12"-single  from Black=
=20
Widow. Included are "Jaws", "Flamingo" and "Quiet Village" in Disco=20
versions. And I agree, totally unrecognizable!  I could never have guessed=20
the tunes if they were not listed. (Well perhaps the beginning of "Jaws")

Its a nice record though.

Magnus


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From: Ryan Matheson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 12 May 1997 12:32:25 -0700 (PDT)


On Mon, 12 May 1997, m.ace wrote:

>    Also, I've come up with an interesting argument against my "art is not good
> or bad" thesis.
> What about propaganda artworks that serve an evil cause?

This may open up the proverbial semiotic can(s) o' worms, but...

We can probably all agree on certain standards of "evil", so let's ignore
the possibility that evil is subjective.  Have you ever seen "Triumph of
the Will"?  It's Nazi propaganda, but it's incredible film-making, too;
it's scary how beautifully made that movie is.

It's hard (I hope) to look at something like "Triumph of the Will" without
a sense of horror about its motives and an acute sense of foreboding,
but if you can divorce the craftsmanship from the message, "evil" art can
be "good" art (aesthetically speaking), too.

I hope that's clear enough.  I mean, this is a potentially volatile
subject I'm bringing up in a thread which started due to the Ritchie
Family's "Quiet Village" so I hesitate to continue.  (Also, the idea that
I'm using the internet to defend the artisitic merit of Nazi propaganda
sorta scares me, so I'll just shut up now--The Shaggs are about as
controversial as I wanna get.)


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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend Finds
Date: 12 May 1997 12:30:38 -0700

> also snagged Walter Carlos...."By Request"...

lay the needle down on track two, side two of the above LP for a totally wacked out and
f%#$ed up version of "What's New, Pussycat?"



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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica
Date: 12 May 1997 13:53:53 -0800

>
>There's an inordinant emphasis on "cold" music (electronic, modern, CD,
>club) for a list that is ostensibly about exotica (warm, passionate,
>foreign, ethnic, historic). If you're bored with exotica, dance. Fine.

Give me a friggin' break!  IMO, it's _no one's_ place to throw cold water
or negative attitude at other people's musical tastes on this list.  I'm
growing very fatigued of this thread.

What's more, I roll my eyes and disagree heartily with this tired notion
of "cold" vs. "warm" music... I say this as someone who has studied and
played music for 20 years, and makes a living in the field, and never
even owned an instrument that used electricity until 5 years ago.  There
can be just as much warmth and humanity in music created with plastic
and silicon as there is with metal, wood, and flesh... I've done both,
and so I find the type of distictions outlined above to be irritatingly
provincial and sentimental.

I am not interested in hearing about what music people hate, unless it
is a constructive criticism of a specific song or album.  The recent
posts on "disco exotica" have been fun and informative, so I say keep
'em coming!

sorry I don't have any "sense of humor" to offer with this post.  It's
a very grouchy Monday morning... ;)

thanks for the bandwidth,

-Brian



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From: "Ray Coffey"<[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: ovens
Date: 12 May 1997 16:48:13 -0400


Hello all (exceptions to be made later),

>If anybody needs me I'll be in the
>kitchen with my head in the oven.

Don't forget to blow out the pilot light first.

 What WAS that Sylvia Plath tune? (Cleve? They were a Boston band)
 Turned on the gas
 And completely forgot about lighting a match
 No one ever did anything with half as much class as
 Sylvia Plath

 Ross?  Can I get dibs on your rejects?

 This oven thread is a funny thing...

 I had a 45 (Batman Theme - Nelson Riddle)
 in the oven last week between two heavy books to take out a warp.

 Apparently 200 degrees was too low to soften the vinyl enough.

 What is the optimal oven temperature for pressing records?
 I mean pressing them as one would flowers, not pressing NEW records.
 Doy hic!

 I assume there is variability due to different chemical composition.

 But what is a good temperature benchmark?
 Or is there a better method than the hot book press?

 Hoping the needle will still track...

 I remain,

 Ray (Hot Riddle's Riddler) Coffey



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: ovens
Date: 12 May 1997 19:47:48 -0400

> From: Ray Coffey <[e-mail]>
> Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 4:48 PM
>
>  What WAS that Sylvia Plath tune? (Cleve? They were a Boston band)
>  Turned on the gas
>  And completely forgot about lighting a match
>  No one ever did anything with half as much class as
>  Sylvia Plath

The song was called, aptly, "Sylvia Plath" by Peter Laughner of Cleveland. He
worked under his own name as well as with several bands (Cinderella Backstreet,
Rocket From The Tombs, very early Pere Ubu, Friction, Peter & The Wolves). I
don't exactly where you would find it. I find mention of a 1982 album on the
Koolie label called "Peter Laughner" that's supposed to include it. It's
probably made it onto cee-dee somewhere also. Laughner died in 1977 of acute
pancreatitis. Philly garage-pop band, The Johnsons, did a cover of it in the
late 80's. Probably others have also, by now.

m.ace
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mancini+Sexadelic
Date: 13 May 1997 01:46:02 -0300

        Good evening, my name is Rodrigo, i'm new to this list, liked
everyting i've read until now and need some help: i'm looking for the OST of
"The Party", by Henry Mancini, i've tried to find around www, but had no
clue about. I wonder if it was re-release in cd format... And i'd like to
ask about Manfred Hubler&Siegfried Schawb
works, i've got the "Vampyros Lesbos" cd and it's cool... I'm from Brazil,
and my country, friends, is a place where you find the sounds you
apreciatte... sorry about my bad english,

See you,

Cabelo



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From: [e-mail] (John Jones)
Subject: (exotica) Peter Laughner
Date: 13 May 1997 04:49:12 GMT

Yeah....it is on CD
=46uckin' incredible disc

It's called "Take The Guitar Player For A Ride"
Peter Laughner & friends

Tim Kerr Records
P.O. Box 42423
Portland, Oregon
97242

=46or those who want to know about some pre-punk punk, grab this disc,
as well as the Pere Ubu box set (a band Laughner was originally in)

god....I gotta put this disc in now!!!!......;)

John

--=20
I hate spam, don't you?
remove the "nospam" from my
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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) That elusive Mancini title
Date: 13 May 1997 06:12:17 -0700

Rodrigo wrote:

> Good evening, my name is Rodrigo, i'm new to this list, liked
> everyting i've read until now and need some help: i'm looking for the OST of
> "The Party", by Henry Mancini, i've tried to find around www, but had no
> clue about. I wonder if it was re-release in cd format...

I've been after that one for a long, long time.  I'm constantly checking out newsgroups,
web sites, collector's lists, Goldmine ads, used record shops and swaps.  Been doing
this for almost three years!!  I saw it on a list ONCE and it was long gone when I
immediately called.  Sadly, my Mancini collection remains party-less and to this day, I
have to be content with gazing at a scan of the cover, which you can also view by
clicking:

http://www.kfjc.org/diamond/covers/party.jpg

I've also checked out hard-to-find soundtracks on CD and have come up dry.  No high
priced Japanese import, as far as I know.

Too bad.  Sorry for the discouraging news - now watch a fellow list member find a near
mint copy at a thrift store for 50 cents - hee hee.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Torme - Now?
Date: 13 May 1997 10:56:00 -0400 (EDT)

Anybody heard the Mel Torme CD "Right Now"? Contains lots of pop tunes like
"Secret Agent Man". Personally, I love his versions of"Sunshine Superman" and
"Games People Play "that I've got on compilations. I assume this one has more
of the same but haven't heard it at all.        Bob


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From: [e-mail] (Doug Frisby)
Subject: (exotica) The Party on CD
Date: 13 May 1997 10:38:11 -0700


     Cabelo wrote:
     >i'm looking for the OST of
     >"The Party", by Henry Mancini, i've tried to find around www, but had
     >no clue about. I wonder if it was re-release in cd format...

     Yes "The Party" is available on CD from Japan. (RCA BVCP-1030) It
     occasionally turns up in Tower Records, but you'll be expected to pay
     $35.00

     You can also find "Hatari", "Mr. Lucky", "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin",
     "Gunn", More Music From Peter Gunn" and a few other soundtracks on
     various import labels. As I mentioned before, a book called "CD
     International" is a great reference guide for those obscure CD
     reissued gems that can be easily special ordered. You can find the
     book in most Tower Records.



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From: [e-mail] (David Schafer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Party on CD
Date: 13 May 1997 16:51:05 -0700 (PDT)

>
>     Cabelo wrote:
>     >i'm looking for the OST of
>     >"The Party", by Henry Mancini, i've tried to find around www, but had
>     >no clue about. I wonder if it was re-release in cd format...


I found 'The Party' listed with Footlight Records in NY

http://www.footlight.com/

PARTY, THE
MANCINI
RCA (JAPAN) 1030 $36.95

_________________________________

David Schafer
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Art subjective?
Date: 13 May 1997 20:45:38 -0400

> From: Ryan Matheson <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (exotica) Art subjective?
> Date: Monday, May 12, 1997 3:32 PM
>
> On Mon, 12 May 1997, m.ace wrote:
>
> > Also, I've come up with an interesting argument against my
> > "art is not good or bad" thesis.
> > What about propaganda artworks that serve an evil cause?

> I mean, this is a potentially volatile
> subject I'm bringing up in a thread which started due to the Ritchie
> Family's "Quiet Village" so I hesitate to continue.

Yeah, I suppose the counter-argument would be that the artwork is only an
object or vehicle. The evil exists only in the minds of the creator or
audience. The NRA approach: art doesn't kill people, etc, etc. But this is
slippery ground, eh?

This whole topic is quicksand. And we've even been oversimplifying with basic
good/bad, like/dislike poles. Really, our reactions are a lot more complicated
and multi-directional than that -- with both intellect and emotions involved
together. Art is like life (I would guess that for a lot of us on this list,
art IS life) -- each situation is unique and we improvise our way through it. I
just try to avoid a judgemental attitude, in favor of an open, inclusive
attitude -- learning, enjoying (whatever) anything I can from the art.

I've got to go watch "Santo y Blue Demon contra los Monstruos" now.

m.ace
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Trendoids
Date: 13 May 1997 22:29:51 -0400 (EDT)

Someone predicted a new trend last year when Vampyros Lesbos and Schulmadchen
came out, and today the USA got into the act. I saw a new CD called
Sex-O-Rama, 12 themes from famous golden-age porn films like Deep Throat,
Green Door, Misty Beethoven, etc. No outside label info on artist, OST  or
rerecording status. Any of you on the promo mailing lists heard this one ?  I
didn't pay much attention to themes or background music in those days,  but
it wouldnt surprise me if some bands did music just to hang out on the set
for a while to watch the shooting.  I vaguely recall Mike Bloomfield being
involved in an early Mitchell Brothers'  short, but i saw this while on the
''70's San Francisco A to Z Bar Tour (the M. Bros were the "X") and my memory
is extremely suspect.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Julie Andrews Sings Moondog
Date: 13 May 1997 23:22:32 -0400

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
a friend e-mailed me:
>
> Hey, irwin, do you know of the Julie Andrews record called "Tell it Again"
> on which all the songs were written by Moondog?

No, I don't. Is she kidding? Does such a record exist? Any info?

--Irwin Chusid
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 14 May 1997 17:23:44 +0100

Irwin Chusid wrote:
>P.S. For a real stunner, check out Julie's sultry rendition of "The
>Mickey Mouse Club Theme" on the album NICE GIRLS DON'T STAY FOR
>BREAKFAST. She sounds deliriously potted. I don't think Disney would
>
>have wanted his Mouseketeers to hear this gimlet-eyed version.

This is so great! One wonders what could have possessed
Miss London to round off the album with that particular track.
The tune seems to have spawned several bizzare versions:
another favorite of mine is the Lennon Sisters' "Mickey
Mouse Mambo", where the girls really rip it up, complete
with awkward shouts of "Uh!".

And for more mouse mania, check out Mickey Mouse's
version of "St. Louis Blues" (official Mickey Mouse Club 45).
Yes, it's him playing both piano and clarinet, it says so on
the label. Vocals are supplied by a scat-singing Minnie
Mouse, and it has a spoken intro where Mickey says he'll
do his imitation of Ted Lewis, although I would say the
over-all effect is closer to Sun Ra. There must be more
gems like this out there. Any former Mouseketeers on the
list?

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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Julie Andrews Sings Moondog
Date: 14 May 1997 10:53:46 -0500

<bold>ghostown=40ix.netcom.com,internet writes:

</bold><x-quoted>do you know of the Julie Andrews record called =22Tell it =
Again=22

> on which all the songs were written by Moondog?</x-quoted>



Truly exotic=21=21

Yo, I need that record.


Jonny Sender





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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Santo Soundtrack
Date: 14 May 1997 12:13:17 -0400

Besides having more monsters than you could shake a stick at (and Santo tried
beating El Ciclope with a stick), "Santo y Blue Demon Contra los Monstruos"
(1969) featured a fairly interesting soundtrack. The credits listed "Director
Musical: Gustavo Cesar Carreon" and "Orquesta de Filarmonicas del S.T.P.G." It
was a small ensemble: electric organ (Hammond or something similar), a little
piano, electric guitar (clean, jazz tone), vibes and plenty of percussion.
There were floating, atmospheric passages; crashing martial bits for the
fights; gothic spook show organ; pretty, melodic cues which sounded mighty fine
with the vibes/guitar/organ combination; and dissonant organ wash sfx-type
stuff for the mad scientist's lab scenes (a little reminiscent of some of the
stuff from Toho's monster movies). Unfortunately, this one didn't include an
outright musical scene, like a lot of Santo movies -- just a few seconds of a
mariachi trio at one point -- who were immediately attacked by the monsters.
No, I don't think it happened quite like that. The action is a bit of a blur
today -- so many monsters, so many fights. The Frankenstein's Monster with
stringy mustache & goatee does stand out, though.

Viva Santo!

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From: "Alex V. Cook" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 14 May 1997 11:22:06 -0700

[e-mail] wrote:

> And for more mouse mania, check out Mickey Mouse's
> version of "St. Louis Blues" (official Mickey Mouse Club 45).
> Yes, it's him playing both piano and clarinet, it says so on
> the label. Vocals are supplied by a scat-singing Minnie
> Mouse, and it has a spoken intro where Mickey says he'll
> do his imitation of Ted Lewis, although I would say the
> over-all effect is closer to Sun Ra. There must be more
> gems like this out there.

I know Sun Ra was into Disney music ina big way. He had a track on the
Stay Awake CD and I think there exists an album of the Arkestra doing
Disney tunes. When he played N.O. Jazz Fest back in '88, he and the
group played a suprise lunch recess gig, in full Egypto-Alien regalia,
on the playground of one of the harsher inner city New Orleans grade
schools, and he led all the attendees in a march around the yard to the
"Mickey Mouse Club Theme"
I've seen a video of it, and it was beautiful.

embracing the mouse within,
alex



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From: [e-mail] (Doug Frisby)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Trendoids
Date: 14 May 1997 10:24:56 -0700

     Alex wrote:
     >I saw a new CD called Sex-O-Rama, 12 themes from famous golden-age
     >porn films like Deep Throat,Green Door, Misty Beethoven, etc.

     Boing! As a young impresssionable lad, I had the opportunity to
     witness (hell, .. memorize) the film "Opening Of Misty Beethoven".
     Besides all the crafty camera angles and new ways to exploit mangoes,
     I heard music that stayed with me years after. The "Beethoven"
     soundtrack has a classical piece in it but there's the main theme that
     plays throughout which has wordless vocals and is very mod and
     cocktailish. It's along the lines of "Mah-Nah Mah-nah". It's quite
     good. I'll definitely have to pick the CD up.

     If you can't find the CD, then maybe you should rent the movie which
     is considered a classic. Warning: Most scenes contain "acts" of adult
     nature. Viewer discretion advised.



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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sex-o-Rama
Date: 14 May 1997 13:30:02 -0500

"Sex-o-Rama: Music from Classic Adult Films" is due to be released May 20
from Oglio Records.  Their phone number is 310-798-2252.  Contains themes
from "Debbie Does Dallas", "Taboo", "Behind the Green Door", "The Opening of
Misty Beethoven", etc.


                          DARRELL BROGDON <[e-mail]>



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From: [e-mail] (Jill Mingo)
Subject: (exotica) Sexy music
Date: 14 May 1997 14:08:58 -0600

More sexy film music from Crippled Dick Hot Wax out now. A compilation of
Italian porn flick music - or so it claims. I haven't seen the films. It's
called Beat at Cinecitta. Music from the likes of Riz Ortolani, Bruno
Nicolai, Roberto Pregadio, Piero Piccioni, Franco De Gemini, and Francesco
De Masi. About a quarter of it is amazing, the rest is typical jazzy, funky,
beat crippled dick stuff. There are 5 tracks of about 18 that are stunners.
It is all new to me though.

Also on the Italian tip, it seems that the Easy Tempo folks have re-released
Piero Umilani's Svezia Inferno e Paradiso -or Sweden Heaven or Hell - the
famed soundtrack which features Mah Na Mah Na. WOW!!! This one is
fanfuckingtastic IMHO. Three main theme tracks done in about 40 different
ways. 28 trax in all. There are a couple bonus trax too. Some are silly.
Most are bossa sounding - cocktailesque. Some are kinda psychedelic. ME
LOVES EM!

Both on double vinyl and CD.

Ciao!

Jill "Mingo-go"





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From: Schlock! <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Burt Bacharach on PBS tonite
Date: 14 May 1997 13:28:53 -0700

PBS's "Great Performances" is doing a program on Bacharach tonight at 8 pm
(PST, at least in San Diego). Just thought people on the list would dig
this....John


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sexy music
Date: 14 May 1997 17:56:30 -0500

>More sexy film music from Crippled Dick Hot Wax out now. A compilation of
>Italian porn flick music - or so it claims. I haven't seen the films. It's
>called Beat at Cinecitta. Music from the likes of Riz Ortolani, Bruno

3 tracks featured in the Featured Albums section of Radio Vik (in Real
Audio 2.0 and 3.0)
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/radiovik.html




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From: [e-mail] (Mark Turner)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sexy music
Date: 14 May 1997 16:22:16 -0700 (PDT)

>
> Also on the Italian tip, it seems that the Easy Tempo folks have re-released
> Piero Umilani's Svezia Inferno e Paradiso -or Sweden Heaven or Hell - the
> famed soundtrack which features Mah Na Mah Na. WOW!!! This one is
> fanfuckingtastic IMHO. Three main theme tracks done in about 40 different
> ways. 28 trax in all. There are a couple bonus trax too. Some are silly.
> Most are bossa sounding - cocktailesque. Some are kinda psychedelic. ME
> LOVES EM!
>
Then you'll probably want this too:

Piero Umiliani-MahNa MahNa Rmx- 12" I
HOU
MET201
Easy Tempo / Taken from the Album Release " Svezia Inferno e Paradiso
" / feat. Brasil House Remixes of
this Sesame Street Classic

[taken from the Groove Attack Productions new release list]

--
 Mark Turner
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From: "Jim Gerwitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Gentle People vs. Tipsy at the dentist
Date: 14 May 1997 19:55:04 -0700

My dentist has walkman cassette players for his patients. During a 2 hour
bridge replacement last week, I took tapes of both the above groups, and
must recommend the simply gorgeous Gentle People (see Vik's) for a very
relaxing experience, enhanced of course by the nitrous oxide.   The
spaciousness of the recording was wonderful. I also like Tipsy, but there
wasn't the relaxing flow or ambience of the GP, who have joined Julee
Cruise, Jackie Gleason, Baxter's "Jewels of the Sea", and many others on my
"music to send me to dreamland" shelf. Since i gave up most of my bad
habits many years ago, i now look forward to dental work for that nitrous
nostalgia.  If you're not already groovin to headphones at your dentist,
give it a whiiirrrrllll.......

Jim G    "I Love the Gentle People"  - My favorite CD of 97
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Sabu Sightings
Date: 14 May 1997 23:19:09 -0400 (EDT)

In the SF Borders' today I spotted Japanese import CDs of Sabu's "Palo Congo"
$27, Vols 1 & 2 of Art Blakey & Sabu's "Orgy in Rhythm" (forget the
price,maybe $27), plus Blakey's "Drum suite" with Sabu on half the cuts
($17).  Also in Virgin Megastore was a circa 48 Chano Pozo import with lots
of vocal credits, which i don't always like in latin music.  (I love the Sabu
cut on the Passions boot -shhhh.)

So Tony, where do I start?  Anything look good, or do i go for the "Nick at
Night Lounge Music" comp ?   I kid you not about that last one.

JB "Turning Japanese" Twist


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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Xylos Inc.?
Date: 15 May 1997 16:54:23 +0100

I just picked up yet another Polydor Easy Listening Compilation
(double vinyl): this one, from the early 70s, is called "The A-Z Of
Easy Listening". They stretched a little further than usual to cover
the 26 letters. Thus, we find in place tracks such as "Sacrifice Of
The Moon (In Four Parts)" by Ultimate Spinach, which sounds like
cheesy listening crossed with Krautrock. The most interesting piece,
though, is a frenzied dance-inducing version of "Walk On By" by
Xylos Inc. This is taken from an album called "Percussion Party" and
is heavily bongo-laden (and other ratata-laden). Does anyone have any
information on this group? Are there "well-known" evil masterminds
behind it? (The other great thing about this album is that I now have
a crackle-free version of the Augusto Alguero classic, "Boccaccio
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From: Jonathan Perl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mancini's 'The Party'
Date: 15 May 1997 18:26:00 +0100


Intoxica records in London has a copy of 'The Party'.
It's 60 pounds, so pick it up if you're feeling flush and ready for a bit of
Hank.
They are online at http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/

I picked up the German reissue of 'more music from Peter Gunn' on CD
yesterday.
Fantastic.  I love the guy.  The extra tracks are also good - one each from
Peter Gunn, Mr Lucky, Mr Lucky goes Latin and Experiment in Terror.

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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Party on CD
Date: 15 May 1997 09:47:36 -0700

For 35 - 38 bucks for a cd PLUS postage and maybe even tax you might as
well get the rekkid

Jack


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: back in the oven
Date: 15 May 1997 15:42:15 -0400

>Apparently 200 degrees was too low to soften the vinyl enough.
>
> What is the optimal oven temperature for pressing records?

Now THIS is a thread I can get behind!

I have this 1966 Living Guitars LP, "Ring Dang Doo and Other Au Go Go
Favorites" which I idiotically warped in the car trunk. The warp is so
severe that it throws the sylus right out of the groove during "Get Off My
Cloud" (!!), but I can hear enough of it to know that I MUST find a way to
flatten it again. . .

Anyone have a safe but sure-fire technique?

--Ross

P.S. Ditto on that UBU box set, it's swell.

P.P.S. Did you guys notice Herb Alpert on that Bacharach show? He looks
TOTALLY different now, like some groovy European filmmaker.

 --Ross

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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 15 May 1997 15:50:44 -0400


>And for more mouse mania, check out Mickey Mouse's
>version of "St. Louis Blues" (official Mickey Mouse Club 45).
>Yes, it's him playing both piano and clarinet, it says so on
>the label. Vocals are supplied by a scat-singing Minnie
>Mouse, and it has a spoken intro where Mickey says he'll
>do his imitation of Ted Lewis, although I would say the
>over-all effect is closer to Sun Ra. There must be more
>gems like this out there. Any former Mouseketeers on the
>list?

The official soundtrack album to Walt Disney Land/Disneyland is worth
picking up for the (long) version of "Baroque Hoedown," which has a medley
of Disney faves ("Mickey Mouse Club March," "Whistle while You Work," "Zip a
dee do da," etc) tacked on to the end. "Baroque Hoedown" is a Perrey and
Kingsley song, isn't it? There's no credit given to them on the LP. Anyhoo,
this particular version is the background music for the Mainstreet
Electrical Parade. The album also has "The Enchanted Tiki Room." There's
also a  soundtrack album from Disneyland that has the entire Enchanted Tiki
Room show on one side and the narration and music from the Jungle Cruise on
the other. Nice pictures of those robotic parrots, tikis, and gorillas, too!
^_^

PS--The "Stay Awake" tribute album is worth finding just for Sun Ra and Yma
Sumac's cuts. There are plenty of other worthwhile moments, too. ; )

PPS--Does Disneyworld still do the Tiki Room program? Some parts of it seem
pretty racist by today's standards. Is there a new script, or can Disney
still get away with ethnic stereotypes? (sorry if I just opened a can of
worms).

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From: [e-mail] (Jill Mingo)
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 15 May 1997 17:32:19 -0600

 The album also has "The Enchanted Tiki Room." There's
>also a  soundtrack album from Disneyland that has the entire Enchanted Tiki
>Room show on one side and the narration and music from the Jungle Cruise on
>the other. Nice pictures of those robotic parrots, tikis, and gorillas, too!

Yeah, I got this in a Miami thrift store last month. It is fab. Wild as hell
version of the "Hawaiian War Chant". Great one to play out when DJing.

>PPS--Does Disneyworld still do the Tiki Room program? Some parts of it seem
>pretty racist by today's standards. Is there a new script, or can Disney
>still get away with ethnic stereotypes? (sorry if I just opened a can of
>worms).

As far as I know, the Tiki Room is still in LA. My friends were raving on
about it. I also scored some great Walt Disney World Polynesian World tiki
head glass goblets in Miami. They are well tribal and cool.

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From: Bruce Rhodewalt <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 15 May 1997 17:12:14 -0700

Jill Mingo wrote:
>
>  The album also has "The Enchanted Tiki Room." There's
> >also a  soundtrack album from Disneyland that has the entire Enchanted Tiki
> >Room show on one side and the narration and music from the Jungle Cruise on
> >the other. Nice pictures of those robotic parrots, tikis, and gorillas, too!
>
> Yeah, I got this in a Miami thrift store last month. It is fab. Wild as hell
> version of the "Hawaiian War Chant". Great one to play out when DJing.
>
> >PPS--Does Disneyworld still do the Tiki Room program? Some parts of it seem
> >pretty racist by today's standards. Is there a new script, or can Disney
> >still get away with ethnic stereotypes? (sorry if I just opened a can of
> >worms).
>
> As far as I know, the Tiki Room is still in LA. My friends were raving on
> about it. I also scored some great Walt Disney World Polynesian World tiki
> head glass goblets in Miami. They are well tribal and cool.
>

I can't speak for Florida, but the Enchanted Tiki Room in Anaheim is
alive and kickin'.  I was there a few months ago.  The show seems
identical to the one I saw soon after the thing opened in the mid-'60s.
It's really pretty embarrassing, but how could I not attend?

Bruce Rhodewalt
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 15 May 1997 22:19:24 +0000

> As far as I know, the Tiki Room is still in LA. My friends were raving on
> about it. I also scored some great Walt Disney World Polynesian World tiki
> head glass goblets in Miami. They are well tribal and cool.
=============================================================

here's a great site for others like myself that are interested in such
questions.

this guys' site 'yesterland' is quite telling, or reflective of pop
cultures' changing
face.

basically, what its about is an exhaustive account of the suprisingly
transitory
'attractions' at disneyland.

i stumbled upon it when i was trying to find out myself if 'the
enchanted tiki
room' still was an operating attraction at disneyland.  i suspected it
was not,
because on my infrequent disneyland visits in the 80's, it was always
'closed
for repairs' .

here goes link this http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html link for a
very
interesting site !

max calvada


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From: "Alex V. Cook" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Trendoids
Date: 14 May 1997 13:12:22 -0700

>      Alex (not this Alex) wrote:
>      >I saw a new CD called Sex-O-Rama, 12 themes from famous golden-age
>      >porn films like Deep Throat,Green Door, Misty Beethoven, etc.
>

on that topic, I have an 8-track of Los Indios Tablajaras (sp?) called
"Plays Movie Themes" which has "Love Theme From Deep Throat". Rather
lackluster, but will get someones attention when listed on a mix tape.

quitting my job to become a porn movie pizza-man,
alex
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) But Seriously Folks
Date: 16 May 1997 07:22:56 -0400

Now contestant, for the Pontiac Bonneville and the lifetime supply of
Stouffer Stovetop Stuffing--

A: This music was created when talented, creative people attempted to cash
in on short-lived musical fads. . . .

Q: What is "Exotica," Bob?

DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!


The whole topic of good art vs bad is complicated by the fact that
sometimes when people set out to create High Art they often create dreck;
while sometimes when people are just trying to create commercial product,
they make works which distill the essence of their time, and which are
cherished by later generations.

Examples which I've trotted out before with some of you include Film Noir
and Art Deco hotel architecture.

The key thing is to avoid applying your own generational predjudices (like
which music was associated with the 'wrong' people in your high school) and
assume they have a universal validity. . .

yours in HiFi,

 --Ross

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From: Tim Taylor <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Korla Pandit
Date: 16 May 1997 08:09:24 -0400

Dear all:

I'm an academic who studies popular music and am writing a chapter on K. P.
for a book on exotica.  I would appreciate any and all suggestions you might
have about where to find info; I haven't had much luck so far (aside from
the Re/Search article).

Thanks a lot!

Tim



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From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #211
Date: 16 May 1997 15:14:23 +0000

>Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica

>Okay, this is the kind of fish I was[n't] baiting for. Truly, I thought
>ironically referring to the '70s bumper sticker would be safe, but
>apparently the "sense of humor" crew *remember* only the mirrored ball, not
>the sick-of-it, make-it-stop-finally reaction. The history of dance music,

some also *remember* the fact that it was an anti-black, anti-gay reaction...

make it stop? How long do you think it went on for? The main reaction was
from ppl who felt 'proper' music was threatened...
of course most of the music on this list could not be considered 'proper' -
low sales often, unconventional instruments and arrangements, lack of
respect for tradition (i.e. dodgy covers of classical tunes etc)...

>There's an inordinant emphasis on "cold" music (electronic, modern, CD,
>club) for a list that is ostensibly about exotica (warm, passionate,
>foreign, ethnic, historic). If you're bored with exotica, dance. Fine. Make

Surely the value in the music that *we* like (i.e. on this list) is that it
was new, original, non-traditional, and exploring new emotions, at least
when it came out... the fact that it's old is not important (although there
is the fun/challenge of record shopping etc) and any music that fulfils
these criteria is worthy of our time... As for 'exotic' and 'foreign' these
are purely subjective (i.e. not necessarily foreign to the ppl making it)
and not really valid reasons for listening to music...only 'good' music is
worth listening to, and music can be good wherever it's made...
'ethnic' is not really a valid concept...(trust me, I'm a geographer... :)

>Oops, forgot to have a sense of humor! Better duck.

Watch it... I *Guarantee* that my 'sense of humour' is worse than anyone
else on this list, so don;t make me use it!

------
>What's more, I roll my eyes and disagree heartily with this tired notion
>of "cold" vs. "warm" music... I say this as someone who has studied and
>played music for 20 years, and makes a living in the field, and never
>even owned an instrument that used electricity until 5 years ago.  There
>can be just as much warmth and humanity in music created with plastic
>and silicon as there is with metal, wood, and flesh... I've done both,

Off topic, but interesting:
When the piano was invented ppl at the time said that it would be impossible
to get any emotion out of it since there was no physical contact with the
strings and it was all mechanical... try telling that to a concert pianist...
Any instrument is dismissed by ppl who feel superior yet threatened by the
new arrival...especially true of the reaction against 'dance' music
('electronica' in the US! that still makes me laugh...) by ppl weilding oh
so revolutionary guitars that have lost all their value (which came from
their contemporary looks and sound in the 50s)

>I am not interested in hearing about what music people hate, unless it
>is a constructive criticism of a specific song or album.  The recent
>posts on "disco exotica" have been fun and informative, so I say keep
>'em coming!

I say that anything which would (should?) be liked be others on the list be
discussed... there's no superiority gained by the age of music...I realise
that the sounds this list is interested in are rarely made, except in a
'revival' sense, but it's no reason why they can't be made, and so any
unusual record is a worthwhile topic... (providing it fulfils certain
criteria, e.g. unusual instrumentation etc...)




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From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica Digest V2 #211
Date: 16 May 1997 15:14:23 +0000

>Subject: Re: (exotica) Disco Exotica

>Okay, this is the kind of fish I was[n't] baiting for. Truly, I thought
>ironically referring to the '70s bumper sticker would be safe, but
>apparently the "sense of humor" crew *remember* only the mirrored ball, not
>the sick-of-it, make-it-stop-finally reaction. The history of dance music,

some also *remember* the fact that it was an anti-black, anti-gay reaction...

make it stop? How long do you think it went on for? The main reaction was
from ppl who felt 'proper' music was threatened...
of course most of the music on this list could not be considered 'proper' -
low sales often, unconventional instruments and arrangements, lack of
respect for tradition (i.e. dodgy covers of classical tunes etc)...

>There's an inordinant emphasis on "cold" music (electronic, modern, CD,
>club) for a list that is ostensibly about exotica (warm, passionate,
>foreign, ethnic, historic). If you're bored with exotica, dance. Fine. Make

Surely the value in the music that *we* like (i.e. on this list) is that it
was new, original, non-traditional, and exploring new emotions, at least
when it came out... the fact that it's old is not important (although there
is the fun/challenge of record shopping etc) and any music that fulfils
these criteria is worthy of our time... As for 'exotic' and 'foreign' these
are purely subjective (i.e. not necessarily foreign to the ppl making it)
and not really valid reasons for listening to music...only 'good' music is
worth listening to, and music can be good wherever it's made...
'ethnic' is not really a valid concept...(trust me, I'm a geographer... :)

>Oops, forgot to have a sense of humor! Better duck.

Watch it... I *Guarantee* that my 'sense of humour' is worse than anyone
else on this list, so don;t make me use it!

------
>What's more, I roll my eyes and disagree heartily with this tired notion
>of "cold" vs. "warm" music... I say this as someone who has studied and
>played music for 20 years, and makes a living in the field, and never
>even owned an instrument that used electricity until 5 years ago.  There
>can be just as much warmth and humanity in music created with plastic
>and silicon as there is with metal, wood, and flesh... I've done both,

Off topic, but interesting:
When the piano was invented ppl at the time said that it would be impossible
to get any emotion out of it since there was no physical contact with the
strings and it was all mechanical... try telling that to a concert pianist...
Any instrument is dismissed by ppl who feel superior yet threatened by the
new arrival...especially true of the reaction against 'dance' music
('electronica' in the US! that still makes me laugh...) by ppl weilding oh
so revolutionary guitars that have lost all their value (which came from
their contemporary looks and sound in the 50s)

>I am not interested in hearing about what music people hate, unless it
>is a constructive criticism of a specific song or album.  The recent
>posts on "disco exotica" have been fun and informative, so I say keep
>'em coming!

I say that anything which would (should?) be liked be others on the list be
discussed... there's no superiority gained by the age of music...I realise
that the sounds this list is interested in are rarely made, except in a
'revival' sense, but it's no reason why they can't be made, and so any
unusual record is a worthwhile topic... (providing it fulfils certain
criteria, e.g. unusual instrumentation etc...)




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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Taping Tech
Date: 16 May 1997 18:40:12 +0200

>From: basic hip <[e-mail]>

(snip)
>I've been meaning to get a mixing board so i can have a seamless
>transition from one selection to the next or mix things together.  Johan's
>"Fantastica"
>shows (which he offers for trade) are outstanding examples of this mixing
>technique...

    thanx for the nice words, Ford, but i don't use a mixing board, you
know; i used to simply use some wire splits, you know, a cable with one
input at the one end, and 2 outputs at the other? combining them, i mixed 2
or 3 sources ;-) nowadays, i use a mac for my mixes.

        Johan
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) lounge / mod post
Date: 16 May 1997 22:24:08 +0000

wish you all could hear this amazing track !

herb alpert & tijunana brass - "hurt so bad"
(from 'summertime' lp a&m # sp-4314)

total amphetamine paced ska-marimba instrumental
version of this pop soul song.

wild !  i'm on my 20th consecutive play !


max


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From: the_curator <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sabu
Date: 18 May 1997 00:49:34 +0100

>In the SF Borders' today I spotted Japanese import CDs of Sabu's "Palo Congo"
>$27, Vols 1 & 2 of Art Blakey & Sabu's "Orgy in Rhythm"

Anyone care to describe what Sabu is like? Never heard him.

Sem Sinatra




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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Julie Andrews and Moondog
Date: 17 May 1997 19:55:47 -0700


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
a friend e-mailed me:
>
> Hey, irwin, do you know of the Julie Andrews record called "Tell it Again"
> on which all the songs were written by Moondog?

No, I don't. Is she kidding? Does such a record exist? Any info?

- --Irwin Chusid
Jonny Sender says:

Yo, I need that record.


To all:

I scored this record just today - although I most likely would have flipped right by it
had it not been for the recent posts above.  Here is a brief description, fire away with
any ???'s if you need more info:

Julie Andrews and Martyn Green "Tell It Again" - Songs of Sense and Nonsense
Julius Baker, Flute
Moondog, Music and Percussion
Produced by Julie Laurence (Young Record World) for Angel Records

Bascically, this is a children's record.  Andrews and Green engaging in spoken word
pieces, reciting nursery rhymes and singing songs in the foreground, Baker's flute and
Moondog's percussion in the background.  A complete text of rhyme and song is inside the
record jacket.  Titles are: Favorite Nursery Rhymes, School Days and Learning Songs,
Songs of Fun and Nonsense, Puzzles, The Animal World, Bedtime Songs and Lullabies.

The cover of the LP has a very young, beaming Julie Andrews seated in a gold throne with
red velvet cushion and wearing a powder blue dress.  She looks like a princess.  The
back has good liners and black and white photos of Andrews, Green, Baker and Louis
Hardin (Moondog).

I have not listened all the way through, just bit n pieces.  No gimmicks, no sound fx,
just sweet and pure Julie Andrews reading to us her favorite nursery ryhmes alternating
with Green.  The typical Moondog touch is a peculiar, but effective addition.

Tell it again, tell it again,
Tell it just the same,
The very same people,
The very same story,
And call it the very same name.



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Nigel explains Edmundo
Date: 18 May 1997 14:48:06 -0400

With things kind of slow right now, I thought these liner notes might make for
relaxing Sunday reading.

From "High Fi-esta (Perfect for Dancing)" by Edmundo Ros and his Orchestra
(London Records LL 3000)
Liner notes by Nigel Hunter:

"This album marks a further memorable step in the career of Edmundo Ros. It is
the first to include dances other than those from Latin America, which he has
done so much to popularize since arriving in Britain from Venezuela in 1938.

"Edmundo has been receiving numerous requests to record a selection such as
this for some considerable time. He and his famous orchestra have long ceased
to qualify as merely another group playing Latin American dance music. They are
now star attractions in their own right; and are regarded as such by millions
in Europe, America, Australia and many other lands.

"Consequently, a widespread desire arose among enthusiasts of the Edmundo Ros
Orchestra to hear a collection which would extend in scope beyond Latin America
and include other dance rhythms as well. The result of these requests is
contained within this album.

"The cardinal rule which underlies all the music of Edmundo Ros has been
applied to this album as well. Each item has had to pass the same test: Is it a
good melody, and is it reasonably familiar to the ear of the public? Like all
competent and intelligent bandleaders, Edmundo concluded long ago that Mr. and
Mrs. Public, whether dancing or listening, will always derive the utmost
enjoyment and satisfaction from tunes which have become universal favorites due
to the durable excellence of their melodic lines. Each tune in this collection
emphasizes the wisdom of this conclusion."

[Long section examining the album track by track]

"This album demonstrates once again the competent versatility of Edmundo's
musicians. It cannot fail to please dancing enthusiasts with its variety and
immaculate tempos. It enlarges the recorded repertoire of Edmundo Ros by
including two waltzes and two quicksteps, but it does not forsake Latin America
by any means. It's perfect for dancing and perfect for listening; in short --
it's perfect."


m.ace
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From: Vik Trola <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) On The Air with Radio Vik
Date: 18 May 1997 18:30:40 -0500

Two new shows broadcasting from Radio Vik.

Kansas may not be crime central, but Darrell Brogdon and the KANU Retro
Cocktail Hour cook up some swinging lounge noir sounds with a one hour
"Crime Jazz" special. Peter Gunn, A touch of Evil, The Naked City and more
delivered in two half hour sets or one full hour soak. You'll find it in
Global Radio (http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/global.html).

In addition to the Exotica Tiki Beach Extravaganza with Don Tiki and Martin
Denny, Radio Vik's Specials features Jack "one half of In Hi-Fi"
Fetterman's oh so swinging Cocktail Music For Robots. Tasty mood music from
Denny, Baxter, Maxwell, Diamond, Esquivel and more sure to oil the gears of
modern day robots everywhere. Two easy to compute slices or one big chuck
of data...you choose at
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/radio/specials.html

All Radio Vik broadcasts are in Real Audio 2.0 and 3.0 formats are require
the RealPlayer from Progressive Networks (http://www.prognet.com)

waking up in the city that never sleeps,
Vik

Vik's Lounge
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html

Space Age Bachelor Pad Music
http://www.chaoskitty.com/sabpm/




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Warped Sounds and Records
Date: 18 May 1997 19:04:33 -0700 (PDT)

Well, another weekend and another voyage of disk-covery for moi.  I found
some great sounds with my kind of warped exoticism...alas the warm temps
warped $18 worth of my finds (Actually my fault.  I could have got them out
of the car when I first got home, but didn't want to go back outside to
empty the trunk because of a lurking panhandler.  I thought "Oh, I'll just
remember to bring then in tommorrow morning."  I didn't remember and they
baked today while I was out).

The worst part was, these were $2 records (my most expensive of the day):

At the Saint Moritz with the Irving Fields Trio   ABC-Para. 187
  It had some pretty good latin tinged numbers.
Themes from the Great Foriegn Films, Leo Diamond  Reprise R9 6009
  Pretty routine, but a couple cuts have that special LD twist I enjoy.
The Pop Classics Go Latin, Orchestra Del Oro   Somerset SF-19200
  Neat idea, well executed (classical music with congos, bongos).
Music of the Near East, Ali Beirut's Orientales Pirouette FM-16
  This is real world music, which is not what I had hoped for (don't get me
wrong, I like world music.  My former girlfriend was a big fan of it and I
like it, but it just isn't my favorite genre).  Of course, the album cover
got   me   (exclusive photo of Neila Ates, famous dancer), so the warp
wasn't a     total   loss.
Latin and American Piano Rhythms, Barclay Allen   Tops L-1597
  Not really inspired music making and I'm bothered by the title (Brazilians,
  for instance, are just as American as U.S. citizens).  I do like the cover.
Billy May and his Orchestra, Time S/2064
  I like the Time records, so thought this would be neat.  It wasn't very good.

However, other cheaper try outs did well for me...and were not warped!

I paid anywhere from 10 cents (the Saint Vincent de Paul's as-is store) to
$1 (the Multnomah County Library big record and furniture sale) for these gems.

Big Band Percussion, Ted Heath and His Music, London SP 44002
  I'm always wary of recordings that proclaim "percussion" because they often
  use percussion as a token gesture to hype sales.  Not so here.  Percussion is
  incorporated throughout and is a central part of the arranging.   As the album
  notes put it "Big band fun at its best!"

A New Concept of Great Cole Porter Songs, Enoch Light  Command RS 879SD
  Great stuff!  This ranks as one of my favorite Enoch Light recordings now.
  All instruments have a say and are used well in these arrangements.

Italian Guitars, Al Caiola  Time 52023
  With so many guitars (11) and mandolins (12) I thought this would not meet my
  expectations.  Still, with "The Woodpecker Song" and "Volare" I had to try.
  I'm glad I did.  There is more going on than strumming guitars, believe me.
  The recording more than met my concept of how I thought it would sound.

Exotic Percussion, Stanley Black  London SP 44004
  Much the same review as for Ted Heath, only better!  This is another Phase 4
  stereo recording with the gatefold cover.

Love is a Swingin' Word, Sid Ramin and His Orchestra RCA LSP-1924
  All tunes with the word "Love" somewhere in the title.  My copy was not in top
  shape...but probably because it deserved playback many times.  Good stuff!

Big Band Bossa Nova, Fred De Denise and His Orchestra Spinorama S-113
  Well recorded and interesting, but the music is not always well performed (the
  flutist is not always in tune) and their idea of percussion is "follow the
  same rhythmic pattern from start to finish."  Better than the average
  Spinorama release, I'll say that for sure.

Around the World in Percussion, Irv Cottler  Somerset SF-13900
  Pretty straight stuff from the same folks that released a million different
  101 Strings albums.   They follow the same percussion routine as the above
  record, but its still a keeper.

Bossa Nova, Sam Most et al  International Award Series AK-215
  Another "true monophonic" recording from IAS.  There are some recognizable
  jazz names on the personnel list, but the arrangements are pretty straight...
  save Sam Most's improvizations.  This is more jazz than exotica, but it still
  earns the "paper sleeve award."

(a note of explanation)
The Byron Caloz Paper Sleeve Award goes to any record I deem worthy of me
searching out a paper sleeve to help protect the LP.  Records that don't get
this award or any other get their existing sleeve taken away or don't get
one at all!  These records I usually donate away.  Better recordings get the
"lined sleeve award"  and the best get the "plastic cover award."  Thus, my
favorite records have all sorts of "protection."

Peg O' My Heart, Jerry Murad's Harmonicats Columbia CL 1637
  You've got to admire a trio of harmonica players which puts together a whole
  album without a supporting cast!  However, their renditions are so well done
  they have "classical music" written all over them, even on selections not
  usually identified in that genre.  Therefore, its a keeper, but also doesn't
  get into the Mr. Smooth collection.

Peg O' My Heart, Eddy Manson and The Lavaliers  RCA Camden CAL-810
  There is more going on here than just a trio.  Some of the tunes are pretty
  laid back, but others have interesting arrangements.  As I have one exotica
  album by Eddy Manson, I plan to keep this around.  Alas, I got the mono
  version... but only for a dime!

Latin Songs and Rhythms of Puerto Rico, National Orchestra and Singers
Ultraphonic/Halo 50336 (c) 1958
  This is authentic stuff, so it goes with my world music.  Pretty good
  recording with a variety of different songs and styles.

Million Sellers, Lew Raymond and The Hollywood Studio Orch.  Tops L1647
  Believe it or not, I am keeping this one for Mr. Smooth.  Raymond does a
  pretty good copy of Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White.  Besides, Mr. Smooth
  likes keeping available the cover which features Mary Tyler Moore from her
  first   modeling assignment.  As Mr. Smooth would put it "C'est bon, le
  leggs."



Others yet to be reviewed:

Soundtrack: Hatari, Henry Mancini  RCA LPM-2559
Soundtrack: Baby Doll, Kenyon Hopkins Columbia CL 958 (excellent shape!)
Lazy Lively Love, Jackie Gleason Capitol SW 1439
Jacqueline Francois at the Plaza, Columbia WL 152 (Adventures in Sound)
Show Stoppers from The Fabulous Fifties, David Carroll  Mercury 60060
The Best of Los Indios Tabajaras  RCA LSP-4007
Jack Wilson Plays Brazilian Mancini Vault 9001 (c) 1965
Folk Swingin' Harpsichord, The Sidewalk Swingers  WB WS1532
The Latin King, Edmundo Ros  London SP 44169
Molto Italiano! Vol. 3, Johnny Puleo  Audio Fidelity  AFLP 1883
The Musical World of Oliver Pacini, Cordak 1002

Thats it for record buying for awhile!  I did not list all of the classical,
big band and jazz records I also got.  If I was married I'd be facing
divorce right now with all this vinyl strung about.

Byron Caloz
Portland, OR


















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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 16 May 1997 14:25:33 +0000

> Walt Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room is going strong at Disneyland.
> I went this year in mid-March.  A few years ago, the attraction's
> sound system was upgraded.  More recently, Disneyland chopped out
> one on the musical numbers (the Offenbach piece, I believe) to
> shorten and tighten the show.  I guess our attention spans today
> aren't what they were thrirty years ago.
>
> -- Werner Weiss
>    <[e-mail]>              ** A Visit to Yesterland **
>                             http://www.mcs.net/~werner/yester.html
>
> ** Werner's Unofficial Disney Park Links **
>    http://www.mcs.net/~werner/links.html
=====================================================

thanks werner for the info !

cc:d to the 'exotica' list serv where orig. mentioned..

best,

max


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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Future Exotica standards....
Date: 18 May 1997 22:43:25 -0700

Awhile back there was a thread more or less to the effect of "what kind
of lame music today might be considered 'hip' or at least 'ironic' in
the future." Well, while shopping at Food 4 Less tonite, I *know* I
heard at least one song that meets this criteria. I don't know who it
was (how come they never announce the artists on grocery store muzak
systems- damn!!), but it was an R&B duet ballad in the tradition of
"Endless Love" or "Beauty & The Beast." It was called "Men Are From
Mars, Women Are From Venus." (as in, of course, the best-selling book).
Boy was it amazing. The opening line was some Whitney Houston wannabe
singing something like "Everytime I try to talk to you baby/You just
retreat into your cave" and then the Peabo Bryson wannabe comes back
with some similar kind of psychobabble (probably taken verbatim from the
book) and then you get the chorus- "Men are from Mars/Women are from
Veeeee-nus." I almost keeled over laughing in the frozen foods
section... I missed most of the lyrics because of this...

pea
--
                        Pea Hicks
               "Memory is my drug of choice."
               <---Realm 'O' The Optigan--->
               http://www.pilot.com/optigan
               Who will be the next to brave
                   the *perils* of the
                    VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??!


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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 7 Golden Men
Date: 19 May 1997 12:00:02 +0100


I can't remember who it was talking about "7 Golden Men" (thankyou
masked (wo)man, whoever you are!), but I picked up a copy of the video
this weekend at my friendly neighbourhood charity shop simply because
I'd heard it mentioned here. I was surprised to see it, sitting there
on its lonesome. Great soundtrack, great film! Truly ridiculous
bankrobbing, right up there with "The Italian Job" (...but was there
ever a sequel?).

-- Pete



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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 7 Golden Men
Date: 19 May 1997 05:23:34 -0700

Peter Hipwell wrote:
>
> I can't remember who it was talking about "7 Golden Men" (thankyou
> masked (wo)man, whoever you are!), but I picked up a copy of the video
> this weekend at my friendly neighbourhood charity shop simply because
> I'd heard it mentioned here. I was surprised to see it, sitting there
> on its lonesome. Great soundtrack, great film! Truly ridiculous
> bankrobbing, right up there with "The Italian Job" (...but was there
> ever a sequel?).

the last post i recall on Seven Golden Men had what sounded like a disappointed list
member who had given the record a listen and was now offering it for sale.  I was
surprised, because I'm with you - I love this Armando Trovajoli score.  I just chalked
it up to the personal taste thing.  Anyway, yes, there is a sequel:  Seven Golden Men
Strike Again.



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From: Vernon Stoltz <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 19 May 1997 02:51:59 GMT

   Thank you Exotica members for creating one of the few places where one
can discuss both Sex-O-Rama Porn Flick Themes and the Disneyland Tiki
Room/Mickey Mouse March.  Sadly, I don't have anything to contribute to the
Sex-o-rama thread, but can provide another Disney reference.

    One very common thrift store record is Disney's "It's a Small World" (I
have a 1964 version with a booklet inside).  My first reaction?  What a
highly obnoxious record, with it's endless repetition of that exceedingly
cheerful melody over the entire two sides of the record.

    But with a closer look, there are some perhaps classic 'exotica' moments
on the record, particularly on side 2.  Here we find Middle Eastern
tambourines, Snake Charmers from India, the Jungle Drums of Africa
accompanied with hyena laughs and other animals, South American birds, Rio's
Copacabana, Mexican mariachis.... Hey, they even throw in the Antarctic
Penguins, Belgium Geese and percussion via Dutch Wooden shoes! What Sounds!!

   "It's A Small World" can be a nice cheerful song, just as long as my
future Sex-O-Rama partners refrain from whistling it constantly in bed  :-)

Vern
. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Vern Stoltz
Cannot Become Obsolete
PO Box 1232
Lorton, VA 22199-1232
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) My Faith Restored
Date: 19 May 1997 10:23:21 -0400

Heya exotics--

Did a long trawl of western Michigan flea & antique stores Saturday. We
found very little vinyl for sale at all (we did get, um, 4 toasters); but
while I just got a handful of LPs, 3 of them turned out to be killer:

Alvino Rey _Swingin' Fling_.   This dude does those little "Zwing!
zhwiing!!" console guitar accents you've heard in dozens of Esquivel
arrangements (as well as on my fave  _Polynesian Percussion_). Some of the
brass arrangements get a little Vegas-y (and this copy got mauled
by--???--some clawed animal?), but this one is WAY cool.

Edmundo Ros _Hollywood Cha Cha Cha_. This is my favorite Ros LP of 5 or so
I've heard so far. I find that Edmundo LPs often dissapoint--he seems to
have one foot in the big band era still. This one maintains the nice edge
that all the songs are vaguely familiar yet oddly mutated in order to
cha-cha-ify them. The "Third Man Theme" Cha Cha is the real standout. Also
this is a nice stereo copy, more forward-sounding than some of those early
London LPs, but without the unnatural multitracking of the later Phase 4
recordings.

Leo Addeo _The Music Goes 'Round and 'Round_.  My first "Stereo Action" LP
(cover w/cutout), and it's a winner! I already was a Leo Addeo fan, for his
very bizarre Hawaiianized covers like "Sheik of Araby."  This one is more
in the perky, Three Suns direction, though it still uses steel guitar.
Needless to say all the instruments are dizzyingly sloshing around the
soundstage like it's the Poiseidon Adventure. But the thing the really puts
it over the edge is that the featured lead instrument is. . . Ocarina! I
love it.

The weather seems to finally be breaking here in the midwest, and I'm
getting a good feeling about this summer's hunting. . . Hope you all got
good scores this weekend too,

--Ross

P.S. I went to FL Disney World's "Polynesian Village" in '92: Seemed to me
like the performers were a lot of long-suffering Tongan college students. .
.  that was the Disney racket throughout all the "Ethnic" attractions in
WDW. . .

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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From: Jonathan Perl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) seven golden men
Date: 19 May 1997 16:29:00 +0100


basic hip wrote:

>I just chalked it up to the personal taste thing.  Anyway, yes, there is a
sequel:  Seven Golden Men Strike Again.

Incidentally the music to the sequel, contained on the CAM CD twofer of both
films, is pretty disappointing compared with the main soundtrack.  Pretty
different style.  I haven't seen either film actually, although they look
funny from the pictures...

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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sabu and beyond!
Date: 19 May 1997 07:40:02 -0700

>In the SF Borders' today I spotted Japanese import CDs of Sabu's "Palo Congo"
>$27, Vols 1 & 2 of Art Blakey & Sabu's "Orgy in Rhythm"

Sabu was/is a tremendous talent in the bongo/conga/percussion field of
whatever genre you want to "label" him in.

Art Blakey was/is a tremendous talent in the composing/playing field of
JAZZ drumming/percussion as well as composing music for other
non-percussive jazz music instrumentation.  Re; Reeded and Brass instruments

Both these guys are phenomenal so in a word... GET THEM BOTH!!!

Orgy in Rhythm was originally released on Blue Note in 1957 and I can't
find any listing for Palo Congo BUT that don't mean nuhthin'!

Blakey's primary label was Blue Note but he did record for a number of
other labels
Sabu's last name by the way is Martinez.

I spoke with my musical mentor yesterday(Mickey McGowan)and he told me he
found a Sabu record that he never saw before.
I love when that shit happens.  This guy has a personal collection of
15,000 records and has been into this for over 25 years and is still
finding stuff that he never knew existed

There is ALWAYS more to find when 1 thinks "they have it all"

So who here has the Mindexpanders-What's Happening or the Electric
Seeds-The Electric Piano Playground on Bell or Night of The Spectre by
Chaino ?

You will never have it all, believe it!

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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 7 Golden Men
Date: 19 May 1997 09:54:12 -0500

At 12:00 PM 5/19/97 +0100, you wrote:
>
>I can't remember who it was talking about "7 Golden Men" (thankyou
>masked (wo)man, whoever you are!), but I picked up a copy of the video

WHO released this on video?  I've searched everywhere for a "7 Golden Men"
video without success!  Is it available from any stateside video
distributor?  Couldn't find a listing for it in any of the major video
guides.  Any information much appreciated!




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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 7 Golden Men
Date: 19 May 1997 16:42:13 +0100

> At 12:00 PM 5/19/97 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >I can't remember who it was talking about "7 Golden Men" (thankyou
> >masked (wo)man, whoever you are!), but I picked up a copy of the video
>
> WHO released this on video?  I've searched everywhere for a "7 Golden Men"
> video without success!  Is it available from any stateside video
> distributor?  Couldn't find a listing for it in any of the major video
> guides.  Any information much appreciated!
>

I haven't got the box here, but I'm pretty sure that it's "Interglobal
Video". The video itself seems to be pretty old: the cover of the box
is pretty knackered, though the tape is fine. I'll try to remember to
grab details (if any) from the box, and I'll grab any more VHS PAL
copies I see (relevant smiley not included here due to ideological
grounds).

-- Pete.



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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Acquisitions
Date: 19 May 1997 10:46:33 -0400

I just received a stupendous gift from Allan Zweig, a
Toronto-based filmmaker who is editing a documentary
on record collectors entitled "Vinyl."  Allan interviewed
me last year, and we've kept in touch, and he called me
last week to say he was sending up a box of records for me.
I picked them up in Ottawa, where I rendez-voused, at a
film studies conference, with the producer of the film.

I'm just starting to go through them, but one of the gems is
a Capitol record "Rockin' Tokyo:  American 'Top 40' Hits Sung
by Japan's Record Stars".  Kayoko Moriyama's version of
"Johnny Angel" is tops!

Will
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From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist: Music for Better Living
Date: 19 May 1997 12:06:25 -0400

I'm back from vacation with a buncha newly thrifted albums (including a =
handful of Command LPs, an Yma Sumac 10", Denny, Mancini). The suprise =
purchase? Bert Kaempfert's rendtion of Caravan! I was expecting EZ but =
there's a wicked fuzz guitar, a "These Boots" bass line, wordless =
vocals, punchy brass and more! Outtasite!!

***  5/18/97  ***
Soul Bossa Nova -- QUINCY JONES (v/a - Cocktail Mix Vol.2)
Caper at the Coffee House -- WARREN BARKER (77 Sunset Strip)
Jungle Beat -- HUGO MONTENEGRO (The Man from U.N.C.L.E.)
Mean & Nasty -- MAXWELL DAVIS (Theme from Batman)
Marseillaise Generique -- BRIGITTE BARDOT (Le Disque D'Or)
Theme for Pussy Galore -- BILLY STRANGE (The Big Sound of...)
Bing Bang Conga -- LOS ALBINOS (v/a - Another Crazy Cocktail Party)
Food Glorious Food -- FRANK OWENS (Oliver! Ole!)
Son of a Gun -- PEREZ PRADO (Exotic Suite of the Americas)
Caravan -- BERT KAEMPFERT (...Love That...)
Tonight -- STAN KENTON (West Side Story)
Music to Watch Girls By -- ROGER WILLIAMS (Roger!)
The Tiber Twist -- HENRY MANCINI (The Pink Panther)
Baby Elephant Walk -- LIVING BRASS (A Henry Mancini Tribute)
Mrs. Robinson -- THE BRASS RING (Best of....)
This Guy's in Love with You -- RONNIE ALDRICH (This Way "In")
Teach Me Tiger -- APRIL STEVENS (v/a - Cocktail Capers)
Cheerful Little Earful -- LEW DAVIES & HIS ORCHESTRA (A Cheerful Earful)
Allah's Holiday -- THE THREE SUNS (The Happy Go-Lucky Sound)
The Wild One -- MARTIN DENNY (A Taste of Honey)
The Carioca -- SKIP MARTIN (Perspectives in Percussion Vol.1)
Everyday is Ladies' Day -- JOSE CUBANO ORCHESTRA (Cha Cha Cha)
On the Street Where You Live -- PEGGY LEE (Latin ala Lee)
Girl Chase -- JOHNNY WILLIAMS (Penelope)
Theme from the Sundowners -- ENOCH LIGHT & HIS ORCHESTRA (Far Away =
Places)
I Can See for Miles -- LORD SITAR (v/a - Rock & Roll Hits on the Rocks =
Vol.2)
Daniel -- THE BRITISH LION ORCHESTRA (Girl on a Motorcycle)
Fly Me to the Moon -- BILLY MURE'S SUPERSONIC GUITARS (Teen Bossa Nova)
Go-Go Theme -- WALTER WANDERLEY (Brazilian Blend)
Coffee Time -- THE KIRBY STONE FOUR (The "Go" Sound)
Morticia -- COMBUSTIBLE EDISON (Schizophonic)
Incacho -- YMA SUMAC (Inca Taqui)
Danger -- TONY MOTTOLA (Guitar...Mottola)
In a Persian Market -- THE MEXICALI BRASS (Zorba the Greek & Tijuana =
Taxi)
Le Temps de L'Amour -- FRANCOISE HARDY (Tous les Garcons et les Filles & =
Other Hits)
Mountain Greenery -- THE ERNIE FREEMAN COMBO (v/a - Cocktail Capers)
Hora Staccato -- WERNER MULLER & HIS ORCHESTRA (Wild Strings)
Pele -- DALIDA (s/t)
Whatchamacallit -- ESQUIVEL (Space Age Bachelor Pad Music)
Grand Tour -- SOUNDS GALACTIC (v/a - A Musical Tour Around the World... =
and Beyond)

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Peter Hipwell: Re: (exotica) 7 Golden Men]
Date: 19 May 1997 17:18:59 +0100

>
> I haven't got the box here, but I'm pretty sure that it's "Interglobal
> Video". The video itself seems to be pretty old: the cover of the box
> is pretty knackered, though the tape is fine. I'll try to remember to

Three "pretty"s in two sentences. I'm going to drown myself, then I'm
off down the road to the Hubbard Academy of Stylistic Inadequacy for
some pretty severe knuckle-rapping. Right. Off-topic.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The Mike Flowers Pops
Date: 19 May 1997 12:35:13 -0400 (EDT)

Hi, kids --

Run, don't walk, to your favorite record store and pick up "In a Groovy
Place" by The Mike Flowers Pops!  This new British group has captured that
"up, up and away" sound with integrity and perfection.  The backup singers
are tops, too.

The Mike Flowers Pops also has contributed one track -- a cover of "Call Me"
-- to the "Austin Powers" soundtrack.

You're gonna love this!!!!!  I do!

Ben
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From: "Alex V. Cook" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sabu and beyond!
Date: 19 May 1997 10:05:14 -0700

>
> So who here has the Mindexpanders-What's Happening or the Electric
> Seeds-The Electric Piano Playground on Bell or Night of The Spectre by
> Chaino ?

I have the Mindexpanders - What's Happening, on a somewhat extended
borrow from a fellow collecta. It gets an almost weekly airing on my
show. "Sensory Overload" is the best straight up song on there, with
"Pictures at a Psychedelic Exhibition" being the trippiest. Did the
Mindexpanders exist as a band, or was it some studio project thing.
Brilliant album all over. Even beats Kai Winding's "Mondo Cane #2" for
bugged out post garage bliss.

flying the expanded flag,
alex

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From: Jeffrey Boyd <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flattening warped records
Date: 19 May 1997 09:10:54 -0700 (PDT)


I too have experienced the disappointment of finding a great record and
returning home to find that it's warped and that only two tracks are
playable. I recently had this problem, and found a pretty good remedy...

Use a hair dryer!

I was at my girlfriend's house, and she has a huge arsenal of hair care
products. So, I grabbed one of her hair dryers, laid the LP on the (clean)
counter, and blasted it for a minute or so. You don't want to do this for
too long; you just want to get to the point where the vinyl is just
pliable enough to flatten. I would reccommend using some big, heavy books
to set on top of it for a few minutes to get it as flat as possible.
I hope I'm not irresponsibly spreading bad advice here. All I know is
that my record was playable and sounded perfect once I had done this. If
anyone knows that this is detrimental to your records, then my apologies.
Either way, this sure beats having a warped, unplayable record.

'til next time,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) slight correction re Mike Flowers
Date: 19 May 1997 14:00:41 -0400 (EDT)

The Mike Flowers Pops album is titled "A Groovy Place" rather than "In a
Groovy Place".  Also, my sources tell me that it is available only as a
British import (on London Records).  Don't let this deter you -- find
yourself a copy, and you'll be in
Now Sound heaven!

Ben
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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) flattening the warp
Date: 19 May 1997 11:20:07 PDT

Here's a method for flattening warped records which I've heard recommended
a few times, though I've never used it. I hope I'm not repeating someone
else's advice...

Place the record between two sheets of glass and put the sandwich in a
*gas* oven (not electric) without turning the oven on. The heat from the pilot
light is enough to slowly return the record to its original flat self.

Another tip - if you hear a "warp" in a record, check to see that it isn't
an off-center spindle hole. I have a few records like this... The only remedy
I've found is to remove the spindle from your turntable (if you are lucky
enough to have one which can be removed) and center the record visually
so that the bands don't wobble, and tape the record so you don't have to go
through this pain in the ass again.

And if any of you think , "that's why CDs are better than vinyl," just try
and play a warped CD...

Clark


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From: misanthropy <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) misanthropy 511 playlist
Date: 19 May 1997 15:17:49 +0000

MISANTHROPY 511--p.o.box 23093--detroit, mi 48223
e-mail: [e-mail]

PLAYLIST

ARTIST--TITLE--CD/CASS/LP--LABEL

MAY 12, 1997

CHICK FLOYD--my little grass shack--little grass shack    --LIBERTY
NURSE W/WOUND--window poss. organic dev.--terra serpentes--WORLD SERPENT
FAUST--sixty-sixty--you know faust--RECOMMENDED
CHRISTOPH HEEMAN--retrace(side b)--7 inch--SONARIA
WALTZ TIME--meet tonight in dreamland--soft lights soft music--TIARA
BOYD RICE EXPER--sndk pearls before swine--terra serpentes--WORLD
SERPENT
PEGGY LEE--everyday people--v.a. on the rocks pt.2--CAPITOL
TINY TIM--garden of your heart--v.a. terra serpentes--WORLD SERPENT
JOHNNY MANN SINGERS    --heart full of soul--v.a. on the rocks
pt.2--CAPITOL
COIL--heartworms--v.a. terra serpentes--WORLD SERPENT
CHICK FLOYD--bali hai--little grass shack--LIBERTY
BRANDON LABELLE--track 3--prima materia--UNIQUE ANCIENT
ILLUSION OF SAFETY--track 1--mort aux vaches--STAALPLAAT
PAUL SCHUTZE--deus ex machina--deus ex machina--TONE CASUALTIES
HILDEGARD WESTERKAMP--cricket voice--transformations--DIFFUSION I MEDIA
KLUSTER--25:30 (edit)    --eruption-- MARGINAL TALENT
RAYMOND SCOTT--crew experim rocket--home w/dorothy & raymond--CORAL
CHRIS & COSEY    --put yourself in los angeles--collectiv two--CTI
CHRISTIAN MARCLAY--dis composition #23--v.a. state of the union--ZOAR
STOCKHAUSEN--zyklus--zyklus--MAINSTREAM
MARTIN D. JAGOOK--lato side a--tempo furisos--CRAMPS
LOST JOCKEY--hoovering the beach--lost jockey--CREPUSCULE
ORGY OF THE DEAD--some college initiation--orgy of the dead
sndk--STRANGELOVE
LITTLE PRINCESS--forever tube--forever tube--DAVIES PROD

MAY 19, 1997

MARTIN DENNY--m gambo mambo--primitiva--LIBERTY
E.A.R.--track one--the koner experiment--SPACE AGE
STEREOLAB/NURSE W/ WOUND--simple headphone mind--s h m--DUOPHONIC
JLIAT--16:05:94--16:05:94--JLIAT
MARTIN DENNY--beyond the reef--hawaii tattoo--LIBERTY
JONATHAN AZANDE--opaque misery--v.a. extreme music africa--SUSAN LAWLY
BLUNT FORCE TRAUMA--germinal crawler--bled out--MALSONUS
2 ASSIST DEPUTY MINISTERS--overtones--v.a. undergr canada--MOTHER SAVAGE
DISINFORMATION--national grid    --stargate--ASH
ROROGWELA--death lullaby--v.a. extreme music africa--SUSAN LAWLY
MARTIN DENNY--la pampa la puna--romantica--LIBERTY
BERNARD GUNTER--untitled iv/92--un peu de neige salie--TABLE OF ELEMENTS
RYOJI IKEDA--#13--v.a. night passage demixed--DOROBO
M/S + T. TSUNODA--ful (edit)--ful--SELEKTION
RLW--reise--atmosphere--TABLE OF ELEMENTS
THE ALADDINS--intro- mondo topless--mondo topless sndk--QDK
ANTONIN ARTAUD--exch bet. roger blin & i--have done w/judgement god--SUB
ROSA
MARTIN DENNY--yellow bird--a taste of india--LIBERTY
BIG CITY ORCHESTRA--journey through madonna--bob hope fruit
loop--AUDIOPHILE
TUXEDOMOON--seeding the clouds--half-mute--RALPH
DAVID PRESCOTT--lefty improv #4--v.a. pure & painless pleasures--JOHN
DOE
BUILDING BALANCED CHILDREN--side 1--jan 08, 1986--S.O.C.
MARTIN DENNY--my tane--exotic percussion--LIBERTY
I.KANTOR/W.LOOSE--cherry, harry, & raquel--cherry, harry, & raquel
sndk--QDK

RADIO MARABU JUNE,1997

LUEBECK SAILORS--long time ago--sea chanties    --VOX
CRAWLING W/ TARTS--end loop haiku--i am telephoning a star--ASP
STEREOLAB/N.W.W.--tripping the birds--simple headphone mind--DUOPHONIC
W. LOOSE/I. KANTOR--heavy sounds wasted--good morning & goodbye
sndk--QDK
CURRENT 93--frolicking--v.a. terra serpentes--WORLD SERPENT
EXP AUDIO RESEARCH--track 5--the koner experiment--SPACE AGE
CRAWL UNIT--history of tears--1993 ep--POVERTECH
HARRY HORLICK--el rancho grande--exotica--DESIGN
MERZBOW--voice pie--merzbow/bastard noise--RELEASE
K2/RUNZELSTIRN&GURGELSTOCK--swell junk minds--noise tourn 4--IMVLUSS
RYOJI IKEDA--headphonics 0/1--+/---TOUCH
PAUL GRIFFIN--swing low sweet chariot--soul sauce--SOMERSET
ILHAN MIMAROGLU--agony--electronic music--TURNABOUT
STOCKHAUSEN--prozession (edit)--prozession--CANDIDE
PIERRE SCHAEFFER--study for whirligigs--panorama musique
concrete--LONDON
PIERRE HENRY--the veil of orpheus--panorama musique concrete--LONDON
VLADIMIR USSACHEVSKY--wireless fantasy--electronic & older instr--CRI
ALFRED NEWMAN--whispering wind--ports of paradise--CAPITOL

these are great times to be a misanthropist!!

look for the upcoming #summer of misanthropy# and #prom of the
apocalypse#

Misanthropy 511 is broadcast on Sunday nights from mid-2am on CJAM 91.5
fm Windsor, Ontario  Canada. CJAM can be heard throughout the Windsor/
Detroit Michigan area.  Misanthropy 511 features from easy listening to
moments of mayhem. Noises of the modern world in spectra-sonic sound.

We would like to thank all who have sent us promos. It is greatly
appreciated.

Misanthropy 511 is also broadcasted monthly on Radio Marabu. Radio
Marabu is based in Belm Germany and broadcast at various times on 13
different stations throughout Europe. It is also on shortwave throughout
Europe. Write to Radio Marabu for more info and tell them Misanthropy
sent you. Radio Marabu p.o.box 1166,  49187, Belm  Germany .  e-mail:
[e-mail]
web site: http://www.dma.be/p/amphion/sztuka/Marabu.htm

A special edition of Misanthropy 511 can still be heard  at the web site
for Vik TrolaÆs Lounge of Self Indulgence using Real Audio. The lounge
is found at:
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html
Also check out the Misanthropy 511/ The Hearing Trumpet site under works
within Viks Lounge at:
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/hearing.html

The performance side of Misanthropy, The Hearing Trumpet, have a 60
minute cassette release on Destroy All Music called #Heart of a Leaf#.
It is the first release recorded entirely in our home studio. Destroy
All Music can be reached at e-mail: [e-mail] for ordering info
and catalog. The Hearing Trumpet has been described by others as
#hallucinogenic soundscapes#, #ambient noise#, & #distant rumblings#.
The Hearing Trumpet has 2 additional cassettes available. #Songs of
Mystery and Magnetics# is a 45 min. cass featuring 2-20 min. pieces
recorded live in the CJAM studio. #Collected Stories# is a 60 min cass
featuring several shorter pieces all recorded live for our radio show.
Write for more info or ordering.

David Warmbier & Greg Hallock


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) impact of pornography
Date: 19 May 1997 15:48:07 -0400 (EDT)

Just returned from a vinyl excursion and thought I, too, would report:
"Impact" under the direction of Buddy Morrow--TV themes, 1959
"Double Impact"-Buddy Morrow again--more TV themes
1960
"Sounds For Spies And Private Eyes"-Al Caiola, 196-
"Schulmadchen Report"-Gert Wilden & Orchestra, 1968-72
German Porno series on Schoolgirls (on CD)
ALSO--got a copy of "Sex-O-Rama"--mainly re-recorded, but claiming to be
faithful to the original instrumentation. I found it a bit bass-heavy, and
found the music good--not great--good. Tried to visualize watching it and
hearing the tunes......Gotta go now!


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From: [e-mail] (David Trezza)
Subject: (exotica) Prima records
Date: 19 May 1997 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT)


Does anybody have any idea how many records Louis Prima put out
on his [or his brother's] label Prima Records?  They are post-Keely
live performances with Gia Maione and Sam B & the Witnesses.

I've found the following so far:
"King of Clubs"
"Prima Show at the Sahara"  [Maybe Sands or Casbah, not sure right now.]

Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks!

Dago

Most oddball find recently:  A .25 copy of "Other Worlds, Other Sounds"
tucked into a box of mainly 70's country a la Dolly Parton, Kenny Rodgers
at a garage sale.

Fish outta water finds:  A vein of excellent+ Denny discs [Exotica I, II,
Primitive, Forbidden Island, Live] at a legitimate "Barn sale" smack in
the middle of nowhere California.


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From: Cyberia Edinburgh 7 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) hoot-man!!!!
Date: 19 May 1997 20:56:26 +0100

Hello guys and gals,

well...   my first internet fix in over a week - am logging in from
not-so-sunny edinburgh.  picked up quite a few discs in london, including
the not-to-be-missed Space Patrol soundtrack and a new crippled dick
compilation of 60's,70's italian porn (beat at cinecitta) which is fab!
haven't seen too much of the london lounge 'scene' which i understand has
waned considerably and will unfortunately miss a planned night out at
madame jo-jo's....   the collection of vinyl at intoxica is impressive if
pricey...    well, just thought it'd be 'fun' to send a holiday e-card -
one more week of shenanigans then it's back to whatever.   and PLEASE don't
respond to this address.

from cyberia,
kevin king

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Home Page Update! For sale lists!
Date: 19 May 1997 17:58:00 -0800

Greetings Exoticats and Kittens!

Just a note to let everyone know that my ISP has finally gotten it
together (knock wood) and I've been able to update my various for sale
disposal lists including the Exotica/Lounge/blah, blah, blah section.
Also, there is an new $2.00 blowout section of Exotic stuff that I
really want to leave my premises, like now! So take a look if you get a
chance.

Thanks,

Kevin King
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Home Page Update! For sale lists!
Date: 19 May 1997 21:22:47 -0600

>Greetings Exoticats and Kittens!
>
>Just a note to let everyone know that my ISP has finally gotten it
>together (knock wood) and I've been able to update my various for sale
>disposal lists including the Exotica/Lounge/blah, blah, blah section.
>Also, there is an new $2.00 blowout section of Exotic stuff that I
>really want to leave my premises, like now! So take a look if you get a
>chance.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kevin King
>[e-mail]




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Prima records
Date: 19 May 1997 20:02:25 -0700 (PDT)

At 02:08 PM 5/19/97 -0700, Dago wrote to the Exotica listserv:
>Does anybody have any idea how many records Louis Prima put out
>on his [or his brother's] label Prima Records?

I'm curious as well, being a Prima fan.  If you have info, maybe you can
post it?  Thanks,

Byron Caloz
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Announcing the CD issue of Electric Eclectics!
Date: 20 May 1997 13:26:31 +0000

Hi all -

For those of you who haven't spotted it already - Dick Hyman's
classic "Moog - Electric Eclectics" has just been issued on CD by
Varese (VS5788)!

It also has three bonus tracks from Dick's other Command Moog LP
"Age of Electronicus".

Time to get a crackle-free copy of this album?


Robbie

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
Date: 20 May 1997 08:49:46 -0400 (EDT)


<   One very common thrift store record is Disney's "It's a Small World" (I
 have a 1964 version with a booklet inside >>

Been to Disneyland twice in the past 4 years, and ALWAYS force my family to
ride "Small World" - the ethnic music changes as you round each turn to a new
part of the world, and the cacophony is quite trippy.  Even ran my camcorder
throughout much of the ride.  And that song!  Takes days to get it out of
your brain, and most people groan when you mention it.  The Enchanted Tiki
Room is also wonderful, a cool respite from the frenetic pace outside, and
MUCH better than waiting for hours for the lame-o Indiana Jones ride.  Dig
those singing, swinging Tikis, and The Lion King Parade is a bit of
Afro-disney exotica too.
Finally one of my favorite album covers is "Date Night at Disneyland", loaded
with 50's teen prom night dorks. Never listened to the LP, but the cover is
priceless.

JB Twist, trying to get that damn Small world song out of my head by thinking
of "Happiness Is"




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Oops! The URL!
Date: 20 May 1997 06:03:42 -0800

Hello again!

Sorry to waste everyones' time but as several pointed out, my post
yesterday concerning the availability (again!) of my for sale lists on
my homepage, failed to give the URL. Well, I said my ISP had gotten it
together, NOT ME! Oops! So here it is:

www.kinn.com/cameron/index.html

Also, failed to mention that I've been posting lists to vinyl for sale
newsgroup if you access that. So, basically, I'm just a failure!

Thanks again,

Kevin King
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From: Bruce Rhodewalt <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Oops! The URL!
Date: 20 May 1997 06:47:01 -0700

Kevin,

You're more than a failure; you're a nincompoop and a scalawag.  Please =
(everyone) include the protocol in URLs so it's easy to click on them in =
most modern browsers.  For example:

http://www.tikipub.com/bdr9.html

Now, isn't that nice?

Bruce

-----Original Message-----
Sent:    Tuesday, May 20, 1997 7:04 AM

Hello again!

Sorry to waste everyones' time but as several pointed out, my post
yesterday concerning the availability (again!) of my for sale lists on
my homepage, failed to give the URL. Well, I said my ISP had gotten it
together, NOT ME! Oops! So here it is:

www.kinn.com/cameron/index.html

Also, failed to mention that I've been posting lists to vinyl for sale
newsgroup if you access that. So, basically, I'm just a failure!

Thanks again,

Kevin King
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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tony Bennett, Sabu, and Candido
Date: 20 May 1997 15:56:39 -0400

Think of this as a sequel to the "Julie Andrews and Moondog" thread....

I just found this record at the flea market called "The Beat of my Heart" by
Tony Bennett. I don't know if this was a percussion craze cash-in or what,
but it's a classic. Tony croons backed by Sabu, Candido, Chico Hamilton, Jo
Jones, Art Blakey, and Billy Exiner (never heard of this guy). It sounds
like he just wandered into the middle of a Afro-Cuban jazz session. ^_^ I
love it!

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From: "GUERRERO, Ernie" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: WKPS Lounge Show
Date: 20 May 1997 15:44:00 PST


Can you tell me how things are going with your radio show?
the jetset hifi one and the other one you were planning
called chemistry set??

I'd love some info --- also, where are you located?

ernie


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From: Tony Wilds <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Sabu
Date: 21 May 1997 02:04:46 -0400

>Orgy in Rhythm was originally released on Blue Note in 1957 and I can't
>find any listing for Palo Congo BUT that don't mean nuhthin'!

Palo Congo was Sabu's first solo LP -- Blue Note 1516. It also was reissued
on vinyl in Japan. Both volumes of Orgy are great, as are all the
Blakey/Sabu collaborations.

>Sabu's last name by the way is Martinez.

Louis is his first. He succeeded Chano Pozo and got around in quite a few
other ways.

>I spoke with my musical mentor yesterday(Mickey McGowan)and he told me he
found a Sabu record that he never saw before.

Bet it was Jungle Percussion, Safari with Sabu, or Afro Temple (booted).
There are others my Sabu mentor and I are working on.

For 4 long pages (33 KB) of some liner notes, track listings, and
discographies of both solo and session work (in progress -- more all the
time), plus some photos and scans, see the Sabu tribute at the Wilds Scene.
Sabu speaks in Nat Hentoff's liners to Cu-Bop!

Many or most of the Sabu LPs are [serious] collector items with 3-figure
jazz-book values, and the rest are just plain rare. It's not because they're
soundtracks or something.

wilds
______________________________________________
The Wilds Scene   http://www.charm.net/~wilds/
LPs * Definitive EXOTICA * Sabu * Tiki Gallery

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From: BuMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) my buddy
Date: 21 May 1997 04:02:04 -0400

hello everyone.

i would like to know if anyone out there thinks Buddy Greco is the greatest
(cheesiest) lounge singer of all time? like i do....
second place goes to Sammy Davis Jr. cuz at least Buddy can sing....
i am looking for MORE
i have about 5 lps and i have a list of the others (that i know of)...
if anyone has some BUD...i will pay or trade stuff on cassette until i find
the real thing...

thanx

bump from baltimore

BuMp
Defective Records
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mind Expanders, Who is Tammy?
Date: 21 May 1997 07:27:19 -0400

     Hey Jack

     Here's another copy of the Mind Expanders album, and another request
     for personnel on the record; was there a Dot house band perhaps? Was
     this Pat Boone's foray into psychedelia? It is a great addition to any
     mix tape, absolutely.

     To the Group

     I recently picked up two records at the flea that feature "Tammy" who
     seems to be a Barbie-doll knock off. They are dated 1965. I haven't
     listened to them yet, but they have very surreal puppet/toy/Viewmaster
     type covers. The best one ("Sing Along with Tammy") features a very
     shiney doll den with jukebox, tiny records, etc. So the question is,
     can anyone tell me anything about Tammy?

     In the same score:

     The Corporation on Command w/ Vinnie Bell and Al Cassamenti. Was this
     really the first recording of a guitar using wah-wah (or "Wow" guitar
     as the liner notes have it)?

     Songs of Couch and Consultaion - Katy Lee

     All for less than $3.00. Keep looking!

     To folks North of Boston

     WUNH (91.3) has added a lounge/exotica show on Friday nights 10 - 11.
     The host, Ricardo, is into the music, so that's good.

     Craig


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From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mike Flowers Pops take US
Date: 21 May 1997 15:10:07 +0000

Have you only just got Mike Flowers in the US? Have you heard the cover of
Oasis' 'Wonderwall'? Pretty interesting live band too. Also check out 'The
Mike Flowers Pops Meets The Aphex Twin Downtown' 12" [Lo Recordings] for
some remix action... mind you, not as weird as you'd expect...(unfortunately!)



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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tony Bennett, Sabu, and Candido
Date: 21 May 1997 10:19:30 -0400

>Think of this as a bizarre adjunct to the "Julie Andrews and Moondog"
thread....


Big Brother and the Holding Company issued a single with a song called "All
Is Loneliness", credited to Louis Hardin.  The other side?  "Blindman"(!)


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) DMQ/Super Diamond at the Croc
Date: 21 May 1997 03:36:00 +0000

The Dudley Manlove Quartet
and
Super Diamond
The world's greatest Neil Diamond tribute band
@
the
Crocodile Cafe
2nd and Blanchard, Seattle
Sunday, May 25  9pm
$9
Advance tickets available at the Croc


Other DMQ news:

Saturday, June 14: Release party for DMQ's live cd, "The Dudley Manlove
Quartet...ARE GO!!!" at the Backstage in Ballard. $10 at the door/$8
advance.
Tickets available through Ticketmaster and the Backstage ticket office.

PRE-ORDER DMQ'S LIVE CD BEFORE JUNE 10 FOR ONLY $10! For ordering
information,
visit http://www.hidwater.com/dmq/arego.html

DMQ T-SHIRTS AND COASTERS NOW AVAILABLE! For ordering information, visit
http://www.freerange.com/bands/newstuff.html


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tony Bennett, Sabu, and Candido
Date: 21 May 1997 07:49:33 -0400

>Think of this as a bizarre adjunct to the "Julie Andrews and Moondog"
thread....


Big Brother and the Holding Company issued a single with a song called "All
Is Loneliness", credited to Louis Hardin.  The other side?  "Blindman"(!)


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From: Tony Wilds <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cannot Become Obsolete
Date: 21 May 1997 12:08:27 -0400

Way overdue, but here goes:

Vernon Stoltz is doing great things in the print medium. If your zine tastes
run to the homespun and humorous, mostly ad-free and labor-of-loveish,
you'll like "Cannot Become Obsolete." How can it not be eternal and
wonderful? It's written from the home of the U.S. Capitol's FEDERAL PRISON
and GARBAGE DUMP: Lorton, VA. (Sorry, Vern, but you know the score.) Vern
actually drove all the way up to the Mongrel Prom Tiki Party and witnessed
the debauchery of the Swinging Swamis driving crazed theatre students into
an orgiastic frenzy.

I no longer subscribe to any zine that isn't about old records. Obsolete
reminds me a little of Glen Burnieland, which was hysterical, but this one
is ALL about records, mostly WACKY ones. Vern and [separately] Brad Bigelow
obviously are turning over every stone in Northern VA and finding some real
treasures (plus dogs I'm happy just to read about). Oddly, both did a
special Christmas "concept" publication using old records and a sackful of
creativity -- both are pretty far-out. "Cannot Become Obsolete" digs deep
into LP psychology without getting tedious or preachy (just like the
records) -- a great zine to play records by.

Send Vern $2 for an THICK xeroxed sample issue, or maybe swap him your best
comps. (Mine's coming, Vern, hang on.) Brad, be sure to get that holiday issue.

Cannot Become Obsolete
PO Box 1232
Lorton, VA 22199-1232



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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: your lps 4sale
Date: 21 May 1997 18:45:58 +0200

    hi Michael,

    i guess i'm a bit too late, but are these still available?

>- - RAY MARTIN - Excitement, Incorporated (RCA Stereo Action VG+/VG+
>TTTITYA) [few scratches on outside die-cut silver sleeve, small split
>seam bottom/middle inner sleeve]
>- - EDMUNDO ROS - Hair Goes Latin (London Phase 4 Stereo M/NM+) [SS on 3
>sides]
>- - BOB THOMPSON - Just For Kicks! (RCA Mono NM-/NM+ TTTITYA) [some glue
>"air bubbles" under front cover image and TTTITYA prevent this from
>having an uncannily bright M- cover]


        Looking forward to hearing from you,
        Johan
        [e-mail]  =  [e-mail]
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Stateside assistance sought..
Date: 19 May 1997 15:18:15 +0100

Hello good people,

I see by the postings that there is a lot of browsing
and purchase of pre-owned vinyl goes on in the USA.
I'm anxious to track down an album called "The sound
of Applause".  It is a multi-artist sampler on the
(then) newly-launched Applause! label: issued early
80's.

I'd also be interested to know anything about the
label itself: it appears to have been started with
good intentions, but seems to have overstretched
itself.

Many thanks,  Hugh.

PS I'm missing Laura...


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) wah-wah (aka mind expanders, who is tammy?)
Date: 21 May 1997 15:04:42 -0400

> From: [e-mail]
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (exotica) Mind Expanders, Who is Tammy?
> Date: Wednesday, May 21, 1997 7:27 AM
>
>      The Corporation on Command w/ Vinnie Bell and Al Cassamenti. Was this
>      really the first recording of a guitar using wah-wah (or "Wow" guitar
>      as the liner notes have it)?

Speedy West was doing wah-type effects on his steel guitar back in the fifties,
maybe earlier. I think other steel guitarists were doing likewise at an early
date. I can only cite Speedy definitely as I was just listening to him
yesterday.

The steel players may have been using the tone knobs right on the guitar. If
you're talking strictly wah-wah pedal -- I think I read something recently...

Found it. Session player Del Casher (who played some with The Three Suns in the
late 50's -- toured Japan with them, even. He sez, "I saw about 2,000 people
waiting at the arrival area, and when I asked why, I found out they were
waiting for The Three Suns!") recorded a demonstration record with Vox's
prototype wah-wah pedal in February 1967. This was a plastic-coated cardboard
semi-flexi disc, "New From Vox...The Wah-Wah Sound." He later used it on
soundtrack jobs for "The Shakiest Gun In The West", "The Ghost And Mr. Chicken"
and "Don't Make Waves". I think those were all with Vic Mizzy.

I don't know where that fits in chronologically with your Corporation album.
And I don't know offhand if any other brands predated Vox. But I THINK Vox was
the real ground-breaker there -- certainly as far as marketing the sound. Or
probably some gizmocrat did an earlier one-off which made it to vinyl with less
fanfare. You never really know.

m.ace
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From: "Kristen Anne Hatfield" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) trying to get off list!
Date: 21 May 1997 15:23:51 -0400 (EDT)

i've been trying unsucessfully to get of this list for awhile...i'm not going
to be able to check my e-mail for a couple of months and don't want to have to
sort thru gazillions of messages when i come back....please take me off!! :)



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From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge on NPR
Date: 21 May 1997 15:13:18 -0500

Anybody hear the review of Capitol's Ultra-Lounge series on NPR's Fresh Air
today?  I only got to hear the last minute or so, but it was clearly a very,
very negative review.  The critic--and I do mean CRITIC--was Milo Miles.  I
did hear him describe lounge music/exotica as "repugnant".  He played
excerpts from the John Buzon Trio's "Caravan", Muzzy Marcellino doing
"Willow Weep for Me" and some other stuff.  Slammed Martin Denny pretty
good, too.  Argh.


                          DARRELL BROGDON <[e-mail]>



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From: Joe Kilmartin <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What IS out there?
Date: 21 May 1997 15:31:55 -0400


Is there a quick and simple way of determining exactly what
EXOTICA/LOUNGE/COCKTAIL music is available now, on CD either in reissue o=
r
original release?


In the name of brevity,

Joe in Toronto


Sometimes a man can learn more from another man=92s dreams than from his =
own.
 You should come visit me sometime Sir, if you wish to improve your educa=
tion.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) SF Exotica, Thursday
Date: 21 May 1997 16:32:24 -0400 (EDT)

This Thursday May 22 in San Francisco
9:00 pm - 12:30
California Kid in conjunction with KALX 90.7 fm present
TIKI FEST '97
at Club Cocodrie, 1024 Kearny Street @ Broadway
415/474-1391
live Slack Key guitar, Hula dancing
Ukulele rock from Pineapple Princess
60s surf from Portland's Boss Martians
SFs premiere Surf Party band The Aquamen
and Tiki goods for sale from Tiki News magazine!
ALSO free punch and fruit to celebrate Cali Kid's Birthday!!!!


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Otto's L.A. Itinerary
Date: 21 May 1997 16:31:34 -0400 (EDT)

For those of you not in LA for Memorial Day Weekend, my apologies
____________________________________________
we will be in town starting at about 9 or 10 til 11:30 at Madame Wu's in
Santa Monica for the best Polynesian cocktails courtesy of former Don the
Beachcomber bartender Tony Ramos.
Then Saturday May 24 we reveal the Tiki News Room at the Dionysus Demolition
Derby at 4 pm for a presentation of sights and sounds in the realm of the
Tiki.
Movies, live music, educational slide lecture, and Tiki goods for sale.
This event is at Hollywood Moguls at 1650 North Schrader south of Hollywood
Blvd. in the heart of Hollywood
club phone is 213/465-7449
additional info can be had by calling
Tiger Mask at 909/0773
(I will email a schedule with times tomorrow)
Sunday morning at noon we will be at the Calif. Heritage Museum at Main
Street & Ocean Park in Santa Monica for  their Hawaiiana Culture exhibit
which contains submissions from Oceanic Arts of Whittier who are also
providing the Tikis for our Tiki News Room.
Sunday night is part two of Dionysus Demo Derby
Monday is swimming pool party!
In between we hope to squeeze in trips to LA's best Tiki bar - Tiki Ti,
dinner at Monsoon on the Promenade in Santa Monica or The Encounter at LAX,
and if we were staying til Wednesday we'd be visiting E L I P T I C on the
Promenade - the only smoke free djing nightclub in town.


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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Lee)
Subject: (exotica) les and larry elgart?
Date: 21 May 1997 14:26:23 -0700

i don't know if they've been mentioned here in the past, but...

i picked up a les and larry elgart greatest hits and it was pretty great!
very fun and enjoyable arrangements.  harlem nocturne had some killer horns
cutting into the mellow seedy bass.  music to watch girls by was very
groovy.
fun jazzy stuff.  i recommend it.

also picked up a Living Marimbas:  Georgy Girl
pretty kickin' stuff too.  are all the Living ... (strings, marimbas,
guitars, etc...)  done by the same arranger or people?

over
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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Lee)
Subject: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 21 May 1997 14:40:34 -0700

question:
i was under the impression that TIPSY used mostly samples.  but someone
told me they thought it was mostly done live.  can anyone confirm this?

subject:
so what are people's thoughts on sampling exotica type stuff?  as a
musician i feel a certain amount of guilt at doing this.  and i've
discussed this with other composers.  guilt because i'm "stealing" someone
else's work and creativity.  but at the same time i think it's not wrong at
all to do so. that everything is up for grabs and that given sampling
technology and digital editing programs and whatnot that we shouldn't hold
back... in other words that sampling is itself a valid form of creativity.
at least it CAN be when in the right hands.

but i still hesitate.

perplexed,
kevin


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From: Keith Allison <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) zu zu zu
Date: 21 May 1997 14:34:30 -0700 (PDT)

Can anyone tell me the first song or arranger to use the "zu zu zu"
vocals? I'm trying to correspond their emergence with some sort of UFO
phenomenon, because I'm convinced they are secret words from space.




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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) les and larry elgart?
Date: 21 May 1997 16:36:05 -0700

Kevin Lee wrote:
>
> also picked up a Living Marimbas:  Georgy Girl
> pretty kickin' stuff too.  are all the Living ... (strings, marimbas,
> guitars, etc...)  done by the same arranger or people?

Nope.  Check the back.  All the "Living ..." series list the producers
and arrangers.  However, most stuck to one type within the series:

Living Brass--Ray Martin on the early ones, I forget who on the last few

Living Marimbas--Leo Addeo

Living Guitars--Al Caiola

Living Jazz--Phil Bodner

Living Strings--Johnny Douglas

Living Voices--(I'm drawing a blank . . . Al Copeland?)

Brad


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) 8 tracks, anyone?
Date: 21 May 1997 18:46:20 -0400 (EDT)

Just in case someone needs 'em, Academy Records (18th St. bet 5th and 6th,
NYC)
has a couple of boxes full of sealed blank 8 track tapes, 25 cents a piece.






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) i'm a winner, thanks
Date: 21 May 1997 18:50:03 -0400 (EDT)

Thanks to whoever alerted us to the Cool & Strange Strip Tease CD contest,
because I won and, to be honest, i never win anything. (haven't listened to
it yet - i'm waiting for the appropriate mood)


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From: Vik Trola <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cannot Become Obsolete
Date: 21 May 1997 19:05:03 -0500

i've gotta agree with Mr. Wilds here (oh please...don't look so shocked),
Cannot Become Obsolete is a rare gem in the zine world. not simply a mag
about old records, Vern uses this music as a starting point to give the
reader glimpses into his life. like reading someones diary (but without the
guilt), and the holiday issue is a stroke of genius. do yourself a favor
and get all the issues.

other zines to look for...Cheeseball (from Boston) - cocktail hipness meets
a bit of the indie rock world from the lovely mind of Miss Stacy...Thrift
Score - your guide to the wooly world of thrifting...Beer Frame - comsumer
products from the fringe (pork brains in gravy, scented crayons, a drink
called sweat and more)...Murder Can Be Fun - twisted demented and noir, a
fave of stalkers everywhere. And for you fez-o-philes (psycho or
otherwise), the latest issue of Lounge magazine is an all fez issue. heaven
help us all...



great pate mom, but i gotta motor if i'm going to make the funeral,
Vik

Vik's Lounge
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html

Space Age Bachelor Pad Music
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From: "Lar E. Warner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 21 May 1997 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT)

My understanding was that Tipsy sampled a bunch of stuff, then when enthusiasm
to cut an album waxed, they hired musicians to cover the tunes so that the
actual playing would be original.  Musicians such as Rob Berger and Joe Gore
of Oranj Symphonette fame, e.g.

L


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From: Bruce Rhodewalt <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 21 May 1997 16:16:50 -0700

On the subject of sampling, look at all the clip art used in print in =
the late '70s and online in the '80s and '90s.  In a lot of cases, the =
work is pretty dang original.

Bruce Rhodewalt
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question:
i was under the impression that TIPSY used mostly samples.  but someone
told me they thought it was mostly done live.  can anyone confirm this?

subject:
so what are people's thoughts on sampling exotica type stuff?  as a
musician i feel a certain amount of guilt at doing this.  and i've
discussed this with other composers.  guilt because i'm "stealing" =
someone
else's work and creativity.  but at the same time i think it's not wrong =
at
all to do so. that everything is up for grabs and that given sampling
technology and digital editing programs and whatnot that we shouldn't =
hold
back... in other words that sampling is itself a valid form of =
creativity.
at least it CAN be when in the right hands.

but i still hesitate.

perplexed,
kevin


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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 21 May 1997 18:38:21 -0400

Wasn't Tipsy's story recounted on this list or on one of
the family of websites related to this list?  My understanding
was that they turned to redoing the music when they realized
the cost/complications of clearing rights was too much.  But I
can't remember where I read this.

Will

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Call for club DJs: synergistic E. Light event
Date: 21 May 1997 20:04:34 -0400 (EDT)


Hey there, folks. My friends and I are making plans for a follow-up to
last summer's "Enoch Light Birthday-a-Go-Go Discotheque Dance Party,"
which we held at a small bar in Enoch's birthplace of Canton, Ohio. We're
aiming to do the "memorial birthday happening" again on the Saturday
(8/16/97) closest to the late EL's birthday (8/18), with the following
new angle:

Enoch was born in Canton, and then moved out to traverse the continents,
spreading his music wherever he went. Just like Enoch the man, Enoch the
party, born in Canton, leaves his birthplace to travel the world with his
music! Presenting...the first Enoch Light INTERNATIONAL Birthday-a-Go-Go
Discotheque Dance Party, happening simultaneously (give or take time
zones) on one night in cities across the globe!

Here's the scoop: so far we've got Cleveland, Ohio and Edinburgh,
Scotland (home of Robbie Baldock of the EL Spaced Out Web site), so,
technically, we've already met the qualifications for an international
event. But to make it REALLY cool, we'd love to get as many of these
going on in as many cities as possible. If you (or someone without Net
access you know that you can tell about this) DJ the sort of music on
this list in your locale, and you've got the records (the Enoch Light
Discotheque LPs plus other upbeat EL and/or other Discotheque/Go-Go LPs
to fill up an evening), we encourage you to join in the fun. The theme
we're shooting for is more toward the mod, danceable stuff than
EZ/Lounge. (It's scary how increasingly *trendy* this mid-60s mod thing
has gotten since last August, with everything from Austin Powers to those
Hullaballoo/Shindig-esque Beck videos, etc.)

We will help with promotion in the following ways, but all other
promotion and logistics of pulling off the event are totally up to you:

- A central event Web site, with a listing of your city/venue

- A cool 11"x17" poster and 8.5"x11" event flier with your city/venue
information featured prominently and all the other cities/venues and the
Web URL listed at the bottom; I'll send you master copies from which you
can print/photocopy as many as you need

- If you have the budget for it, I've also got a set of 100
incredible-looking slides (done right with a copy stand) of Enoch and
related Command/Project3/etc. covers to fill a slide carousel and run
continuously all night on auto-advance. They add fabulously to the mod
ambience when projected on walls, screens, go-go dancers, etc. If you're
interested in a set for yourself, I can provide one for essentially the
cost of slide duplication and shipping. (Last I checked, slide
duplication around here averages a dollar per slide)

A self-proclaimed "technogeek" friend of mine has volunteered to set up a
live Partycam at the Cleveland event, which will update every few seconds
and post to the Web. If anyone else is interested in doing other live Web
stuff (Real Audio, etc.) and you have the capabilities, let me know.

For more biographical info on Light (and a scrapbook from last year's
party), check out Spaced Out - the Enoch Light WWW Site at
http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~rcb/light/

For more on Enoch, the Discotheque genre and my particular fascination
with it, also be sure to check out my article in the new issue of Dana
Countryman's COOL & STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE.
E-mail me if you want in on the international synergistic fun or have any
other questions,

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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) sampling et al
Date: 21 May 1997 17:29:42 PDT

Here's what I heard - can niether confirm nor deny:

Tipsy taped all the sources and then sampled the tapes (A loop-hole,
pun intended - in the regulations).

Then, they played over the samples to create new textures. To answer some
questions, though, they *definitely* sampled - most people on this list could
I'm sure pick out quite a bit of the sources.

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From: [e-mail] (Brian Salter)
Subject: Re: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 21 May 1997 17:33:17 -0800

>My understanding was that Tipsy sampled a bunch of stuff, then when
>enthusiasm
>to cut an album waxed, they hired musicians to cover the tunes so that the
>actual playing would be original.  Musicians such as Rob Berger and Joe Gore
>of Oranj Symphonette fame, e.g.
>
>L
>

Despite the presence of a number of live musicians, there are lots of
samples
on the album as well.  Tons of 'em... Someone on the list remarked a while
back that it would be a fun game to throw on Tipsy and play "name that
sample";
I've stumbled across Tipsy samples on records I own by Sir Julian, Enoch
Light
and David Carroll; and recently, a friend played me Dick Hyman's Moon
Gas, in
particular the track "Bye Bye Blues", whose intro forms the basis of
"Nude on
the Moon" (I think that's the track).  If fact minus a barrage of sound
effects
and Joe Gore on guitar, the sample is practically the whole song!

Not to knock Tipsy, which I love, but hats off to Dick Hyman for getting
it
right 30 years earlier!

-Brian



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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sexy music
Date: 21 May 1997 17:52:33 -0700

jill wrote:

> Also on the Italian tip, it seems that the Easy Tempo folks have re-released
> Piero Umilani's Svezia Inferno e Paradiso -or Sweden Heaven or Hell...

Jill, or anybody...can you please confirm the above?  where? how?  I tried Ishtar at
Right Tempo...no listing and no answer...so, wuz da deal?  I want it.

OLD NEWS
finally picked up the Morricone-Argento trilogy...wonderfully frightening.  Better late
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge on NPR
Date: 21 May 1997 18:18:06 -0700 (PDT)

At 03:13 PM 5/21/97 -0500, Darrell Brogdon of Lawrence, KS wrote:
>Anybody hear the review of Capitol's Ultra-Lounge series on NPR's Fresh Air
>today?  I only got to hear the last minute or so, but it was clearly a very,
>very negative review.  The critic--and I do mean CRITIC--was Milo Miles.

If I remember correctly, this isn't the first time he has called into
question "our" music.  My general approach is to listen to his reviews, then
take the opposite point of view.  If he says "don't buy it,"  I buy it.  If
he says "its the best thing since sliced bread", I avoid it like the plague.
If WHYY got a better diversity of critics on board, they would better serve
their audience.  The world needs intelligent analysis of new recordings, not
someone whose purpose in life is to keep people from learning and listening
more!

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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Now Sounds (E-Z, that is)
Date: 21 May 1997 22:53:52 -0400

With all the talk about that oh-so special late 60s sound lately, I thought
I'd chime in with some mini-reviews of my all time favorites. I hope no one
minds, but since  I get so much info from the list I thought I'd play show
and tell for a change, as kind of a trade back. ^_^ Now that school's out I
finally have the time! OK, here goes....Jessica's Mini-Showcase of Late 60s
Easy Listening albums......

Living Percussion--The Beat Goes On

This is the only Living Percussion album I've ever seen, and is the first
"Living" album I ever bought. I used to look down my nose at them. Shameful,
huh? Anyway, the arrangements are by Dick Hyman (courtesey of Command
records) and Phil Kraus. It has some great cuts, including "Quiet Village,"
"Jungle Fantasy," and "Green Tambourine." Good liner notes too, with a cute
quote from the Goddess of RCA Camden, Ethel Gabriel. Is she still alive?
Someone should interview her!

(PS--this album has sitar--this is one of the minor qualities that helps me
decide if I keep a record or not. Just so you know...) ^_^

The Mystic Moods Orchestra--Highway One

This is more 70s than 60s, but it's still great. I think it was made to
capitalize on the success of the "Earth/Water/Sky" series on Warner Brothers
by Anita Kerr and Rod McKuen. It's typical Mystic Moods type music, but they
got a DJ to recite scary poetry over the sound effects and music. I'll say
here that my all time favorite Mystic Moods LP is "Emotions." Great tunes,
good use of sound effects, and even a little moog (played by Paul Beaver).
"Extensions" is worth picking up too, for the great "There's a Good Earth
Out Tonight" (wacky poem and moog) and the scary pod-woman cover. The best
Mystic Moods cover (IMHO, that is) is "English Muffins," but I'm sure some
people prefer those peek-a-boo reissues. ^_-

Pipes of Blue--Kossie Gardner

This isn't really easy listening--I don't know what to call it. It's really
funky organ versions of rock hits like "Fire" and "Magic Carpet Ride." Not
one bad cut on the whole album. For Dot records, this is wild! In another
case of "you'll never know where you'll find something good," this gem
turned up in the heavy metal bin. Go figure. I guess the record dealer
looked at the cover (showing pipes of blue--the plumbing kind) and thought
it was an postmodern industrial rock thingy. Another reason why you should
look through every bin, even if it's labeled "Dixieland," or "Metal" or
"Krap." ^_^ That's the moral of the story.

Organo Melodico, volume 7--Juan Torres

I bought this in a Goodwill 'cause I recognized the cover from the last
issue of "Exotica/Et Cetera." It has the wrong record in the sleeve : (  But
the record inside _was_ in the Organo Melodico series. This guy is great! I
hope to find more from this Mexican Lenny Dee. Anyone else ever hear of him?
He does a wicked "Conoces El Camino a San Jose?" ; )

Measure in the Valleys--The Keith Textors Singers

This is the same Keith Textor who did those two stereo action LPs, isn't it?
Even if it isn't (the name made me buy the album) there's a great easy-moogy
version of "Yesterday" on this LP.

Hey Jude--The Sounds of Our Times (produced by George Cates for MOD
productions ^_^)

George can never go wrong, can he? I love the versions of  "Light my Fire"
and "Elvira Madigan" on this album. Is that an organ or an electric piano
playing? Or are they the same thing? Just a question from a tin-eared music
lover. ; )

I think  I've gone on long enough...I was going to mention Vinnie Bell's
great LPs "Good Morning Starshine" and "Airport Love Theme," but Jack
Diamond does a better job describing Mr. Bell's style in his price lists. ;
) All I can say is this: don't pass them up for ANYTHING!! (esp. "Good
Morning Starshine") He's the best!


Thanks for the (tons) of space, Jessica ^_^



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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Living Marimbas!
Date: 21 May 1997 22:53:41 -0400

>also picked up a Living Marimbas:  Georgy Girl
>pretty kickin' stuff too.  are all the Living ... (strings, marimbas,
>guitars, etc...)  done by the same arranger or people?


Another Living Marimbas LP worth looking for is "Love is Blue." It has great
versions of  "Theme from Mission Impossible," "Valley of the Dolls," "In the
Heat of the Night," and "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly."(!!!) It would be
neat to see a list of the pecussionists featured on the Living Ms' albums. I
was sort of hoping Harry Breuer would be on them, but was he still doing
session work in the late 60s, or was he mainly writing tunes? Anyone?

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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 21 May 1997 19:54:57 -0700

Brian Salter wrote:

> Despite the presence of a number of live musicians, there are lots of
> samples
> on the album as well.  Tons of 'em... Someone on the list remarked a while
> back that it would be a fun game to throw on Tipsy and play "name that
> sample";
> I've stumbled across Tipsy samples on records I own by Sir Julian, Enoch
> Light
> and David Carroll; and recently, a friend played me Dick Hyman's Moon
> Gas, in
> particular the track "Bye Bye Blues"


Add Ferrante and Teicher, a whistling segment from Seven Golden Men and Esquivel.  can't
put my finger on the sci-fi intro to Space Golf...



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Steelin' the Beatles
Date: 22 May 1997 00:30:17 -0400 (EDT)

Since the conversation has drifted towards Steel Guitars, I'll note that Bay
Area Steel guitar master, Joe Goldmark has a new CD out titled STEELIN' THE
BEATLES.  I nabbed his last CD ALL OVER THE ROAD which had some fascinating
covers, including Hendrix's "Third Stone From the Sun," Zappa's "Peaches En
Regalia" and "Theme From Route 66."  My favorite, however, was the gorgeously
Santo-and-Johnny-like, "Spanish Moon."

Joe plays regularly in Jim Campilongo & His Ten Gallon Cats here in SF.
 Always worth checking out if you dig that swinging, Speedy West/Jimmy Bryant
or Bakersfield sound.

btw, did anybody notice that's Jack ("Conjunction Junction") Sheldon singing
that new Pepcid AC commercial (Cab Calloway's "Everybody Eats at My House"
Have a tomato, Plato etc..)?


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 22 May 1997 00:33:45 -0400 (EDT)

The Tipsy project does reflect some interesting solutions to the Sampling
Problem.  Basically, the two main guys in Tipsy had access to Vale's (of
RE/Search) record collection, which they sampled into something like the
Tipsy CD.  Sampling clearance was impossible after the fact, so they got
talented local musicians to recreate the original samples, then they sampled
those.  Apparently some cultural penumbra/shadow/echo was lost, but musically
it's basically the same.  (though I'd love to hear the original tape)


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From: "Jim Gerwitz" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lola albright/Dean Elliott & Misc. Blondes
Date: 21 May 1997 21:44:38 -0700

I saw a mid-price CD today by Lola Albright called "Lola Wants You," with
her staring out from a reclining pose on some pillows.  A few Gershwin
and Porter tunes, with others credited to Miller-Elliot, and DEAN ELLIOTT
is listed as musical director, so he must have written the tunes, right?
Web search turned up Lola as starring in Peter Gunn, as well as some 50's
and 60's B-movies. Because of my "Zounds What Sounds" boot the Elliot name
sorely tempted me, but I somehow resisted. Anyone know if this is
listenable, or whether she's just another actress who put out a bad record
? (would that matter when I already have Joey Hetherton, Cheryl Ladd, and
even the Lisa Whelchel LP's?)  I am a fan of female cheese and sleaze, but
my web search said she was married to that obnoxious alleged comic Jack
Carter, which kind of turns me off.

Now if i ever see Diana Dors "Swinging Dors" there will be no hesitation.
Double D's "Roller Coaster Blues" on the DCC "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi - the
Blondes" is worth the price of admission.
And where oh where are the Connie Stevens reissues ? Connie looked GREAT in
"Back to the Beach" last weekend, so maybe i'll watch her infomercial over
the holiday, and then finally get around to listening and reviewing the
recent overpriced Jayne Mansfield compilation.

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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) KFJC-FM Party!
Date: 21 May 1997 22:47:55 -0700

Hello all,

Your attendance is requested.

This Saturday Mayhem 24th starting at 7PM at Camino Bowl, 2025 El Camino
Real Mountain View, CA, KFJC-FM will be having it's 1997 Listener
Appreciation Party

Free Bowling for a minimum of 6 hours so all of you that are NOW attending
get out that 'ol bowling ball and start shinin' 'er up 'cause it's party
time!!!

Prize giveaway's including CD's "of all your favorite music" said in my
best sarcastic-like Frank Zappa voice, T-Shirts etc etc etc

KFJC Dj's doing their "sound" include;
Anubis, Arno X, Big Myke Destiny (Footstompin' Guitars), Uncle, Al, Robert
Emmett (Soundtracks), Pandora Box, John Goldfarb (Blues), Ann Arbor,
Spiderman (Hip Hop), Earl Grey and your's truly in the main part of the alley.

Live entertainment in the Camino Bowl Bar with;
Country Jazz guitar great, Jim Campilongo and His 10 Gallon Cats featuring
Joe Goldmark on Steel, Ska/Reggae artist Eddie Def, Dreadboy, Tipsy and the
inimitable Miss M, Miss Murgatroid and her insanely brilliant screwed up
accordian noise.

All for $0.00
Nuhthin, zip, nada, zero money

Doors open at 7PM

Hope to see you there,
Jack Diamond


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From: BuMp <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:sampling exotica
Date: 22 May 1997 01:54:41 -0400

hello i am fairly new here and i have been a big fan of exotica since my
dad sat me in his lap and played his new cugat, denny, alpert, elgart and
light albums in the early sixties...but to compare the originals to the new
technotica is pretty silly and downright snobby.
i have been in a electronic duo, making records since 1991 and co-owning an
independent electronic music label since 1994 and the foundation of all our
music is samples. (at least my band, "Glitch")
being a non-musician, i feel grateful for having affordable technology
available to make "music" with. making music with samples is like making a
sonic collage. like taking bits of other peoples photographs to make your
own. i would love to hear the original Tipsy tapes, i read they wanted to
put out the total sampled version of their album but were worried about
copyright laws and lawsuits...we, "Glitch" were worried about that at
first, after the De La Sol/Turtles lawsuit and all. we sampled some star
trek dialog and sound effects. we discussed it with a lawyer. the law is
still fuzzy and there is no real answer to that "should i sample question"
except that if you plan to make lots of $$$$ on your record, you should get
permission. if not, go for it...i can live with that.  if one of our
records sold a million, i think i could share it with those that helped me
do it. and even so i would only get permission if the sample is
recognizable, i like to use them in a more creative way than how they exist
for real.
i feel if something is put out there to the public, then we can do whatever
we want to it. i would feel honored if someone thought enough of my music
to sample it. hopefully i will.
to end i would just like to say if you are a real fan of exotica and the
like, you should be happy this stuff is being incorporated into new music.
you are getting to hear it in a new way and it is turning it on to a whole
new generation of people and in turn it is making more of it available.
its a win win situation, that is unless you no longer feel special about
being one of the few in the know....the cat is out of the bag, baby.

bump

BuMp
Defective Records
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From: Mark Reed <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WSJ Article on Lounge Culture/Music
Date: 22 May 1997 08:50:40 -0400 (EDT)

ALERT!   The Wall Street Journal in today's edition (22 May 1997) has a
column on lounge music and culture on A13.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mike Flowers Pops take US
Date: 22 May 1997 09:46:17 -0400 (EDT)

Actually, the Mike Flowers Pops CD has not been issued domestically in the US
-- my copy is a British import.  So, this group has not yet made a splash
here.  We're missing out!

Ben
Washington, DC


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From: Jonathan Perl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sexy music
Date: 22 May 1997 16:45:00 +0100


> Also on the Italian tip, it seems that the Easy Tempo folks have
re-released
> Piero Umilani's Svezia Inferno e Paradiso -or Sweden Heaven or Hell...

>>Jill, or anybody...can you please confirm the above?  where? how?  I tried
>>Ishtar at Right Tempo...no listing and no answer...so, wuz da deal?  I
want it.

It definitely exists, as I got a copy the other day and can confirm its
quality.  I noticed that Intoxica are selling it
(see
http://www.demon.co.uk/intoxica/sex.htm )

Pretty steep at 16 pounds though

Get it if you can though.  Swinging, varied stuff

Jonny


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 21 May 1997 18:12:53 -0500

>question:
>i was under the impression that TIPSY used mostly samples.  but someone
>told me they thought it was mostly done live.  can anyone confirm this?

there a some (very few samples) blended into the most stellar playing from
some of the finest west coast studio talent. too difficult to get
clearances for all the smaples. they hired musicians, recorded the sessions
and then sampled the new recordings. still...it sounds amazingly similar to
the original "all sample" demo...


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge on NPR
Date: 21 May 1997 19:30:59 +0000

> At 03:13 PM 5/21/97 -0500, Darrell Brogdon of Lawrence, KS wrote:
> >Anybody hear the review of Capitol's Ultra-Lounge series on NPR's
> Fresh Air today?  I only got to hear the last minute or so, but it was clearly a > very, very negative review.  The critic--and I do mean CRITIC--was Milo Miles.
============

npr people are a bunch bond-fide nerds anyway

sober, droll, tweedy types that earn about $6.00 an hour

fuck 'em, that's what their opinions are worth !

paul / mighty recording co.


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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 22 May 1997 10:48:47 -0500

Kevin Lee,[e-mail],internet writes:
>subject:
>so what are people's thoughts on sampling exotica type stuff?  as a
>musician i feel a certain amount of guilt at doing this.  and i've
>discussed this with other composers.  guilt because i'm "stealing" someone
>else's work and creativity.  but at the same time i think it's not wrong at
>all to do so. that everything is up for grabs and that given sampling
>technology and digital editing programs and whatnot that we shouldn't hold
>back... in other words that sampling is itself a valid form of creativity.
>at least it CAN be when in the right hands.

I think sampling is part of a larger artistic movement which has been going on
for a number of decades. You can see a line going back to the early Twentieth
Century. Duchamp's Urinal piece. ( I don't know the correct title) The Art
world is running wild with appropriation/ referencing, "sampling" for over the
last ten years. Disco songs were always quoting each other left and right,
borrowing a string or synth line, until sampling technology made the practice
obsolete.  Jamaicans have always seen a "Rhythm", (the rhythm track to a song)
as something to be shared and reused over and over again sometimes stretching
on for twenty years.
I can think of three points that need to be considered.
1. Western Art puts value and emphasis on the worth of the individual artist.
The work an artist creates then "belongs" to her/him and is something to be
proud of, hold as their personal property and involves one's own ego and the
artist's comparative relationship to other Art and artists. What if art was
communal. The Asmat tribe of New Guinea create spectacularly beautiful Totems
worked on by over twenty people which look like one cohesive piece. (No jokes
about Exoticism in Art...) How would we feel about such a work practice in our
own lives? I'm not sure I'd like it, I ( and my ego) enjoy being acknowledged
for the music I write.
2. I feel that my creative practice, the state of mind comparable to a
meditative state which I am always trying to put myself in when I play music is
the most factor in my work. If I choose to sample a Hugo Montenegro String &
Synth flourish or a Meter's kick and snare drum that these are tools to use in
my creative practice. (My personal choice is to have samples be pretty
unidentifiable.) I heard a poet whose name escapes me say that 'I'm not trying
to write anything new, just do what's been done over again.' Isn't it our own
'voice' which makes it personal and our own?
3. Although a whole industry has grown up in the wake of sampling with sampling
clearing houses and somewhat established fees for sampling rights, ( check out
the back of most hip-hop records and you'll find the sample, the Author and the
publisher all listed.) I wish that the business of administration could be
taken over by ASCAP, BMI & Harry Fox and out of the hands of the record and
publishing companies. I would bet that both the musicians sampling and being
sampled would be better served.

Sorry to go on and on ... but just trying to respond .
 Thanks,
 Jonny Sender




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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Stealing/Sampling/Tipsy
Date: 22 May 1997 09:10:57 -0700

>question:
>i was under the impression that TIPSY used mostly samples.  but someone
>told me they thought it was mostly done live.  can anyone confirm this?

>subject:
>so what are people's thoughts on sampling exotica type stuff?  as a
>musician i feel a certain amount of guilt at doing this.  and i've
>discussed this with other composers.  guilt because i'm "stealing" =
>someone
>else's work and creativity.


>My understanding was that Tipsy sampled a bunch of stuff, then when
enthusiasm
>to cut an album waxed, they hired musicians to cover the tunes so that the
>actual playing would be original.  Musicians such as Rob Berger and Joe Gore
>of Oranj Symphonette fame, e.g.

>Wasn't Tipsy's story recounted on this list or on one of
>the family of websites related to this list?  My understanding
>was that they turned to redoing the music when they realized
>the cost/complications of clearing rights was too much.  But I
>can't remember where I read this.


>Despite the presence of a number of live musicians, there are lots of
>samples
>on the album as well.  Tons of 'em... Someone on the list remarked a while
>back that it would be a fun game to throw on Tipsy and play "name that
>sample";
>I've stumbled across Tipsy samples on records I own by Sir Julian, Enoch
>Light
>and David Carroll; and recently, a friend played me Dick Hyman's Moon
>Gas, in
>particular the track "Bye Bye Blues", whose intro forms the basis of
>"Nude on
>the Moon" (I think that's the track).  If fact minus a barrage of sound
>effects
>and Joe Gore on guitar, the sample is practically the whole song!


The way I see sampling is that it is stealing.  It's someone else's
original music.
Did you get permission to use it ?  No ?  Then you stole it, plain and simple.
Not too difficult to comprehend, is it ?

Just call a spade a spade 'cause that's what it is.
There's no way around it

Tipsy's "Nude on the Moon" IS Dick Hyman's very real own recording of "Bye
Bye Blues" from his Moon Gas lp on MGM.
Nude on the Moon would not exist with Mr Hyman's original recording.
These guys are not anywhere near that original or creative.

Another 1 is from the beginning of the Glittering Guitars of Enoch Light,
another 1 is the whistling part from the soundtrack to "Seven Golden Men"
and on and on and on dozens and dozens of times and I DO MEAN DOZENS and
DOZENS of times.

They are lurkers on this list y'know, the producers of the release.
I'm sure Eric Gilbert of Asphodel is also on the list in 1 form or another
as I know a man named Peter is a part of the list.
I think he's from the Sales" aspect, maybe "Publicity" is more the correct
wording.

The way I understand it from talking with "them" is that when they found
out how much money it was going to cost them to "pay" for the "samples"
they decided it was WAY TOO MUCH and just simply decided not to mention it
to anyone, the "samples" that is.

I personally think that "sampling" is "stealing" if one does not get
permission in 1 way or another to use someone else's work so I do
understand 1 person's concern with feeling guilty about using samples.

The executive producers name is Naut Human.
Business is business man, isn't it ?  Just like Chevron only alot smaller,
it's still business

He has a favorite line he uses that I think is quite ironic
"We like to give credit where credit is due"

I know it's a "line" because he said it to me at least 4 times in the few
times that we spoke.
He wanted my record collection on DAT.

I reviewed Tipsy for our station and gave it a great review BUT that was
before I found out that they didn't pay a dime to anyone or give anyone the
"nod of thanx" at any level.
Ever since that point I have been anti-Tipsy

I don't see anything anywhere on the lp or cd that says Thank You to
anyone, do you ?

They wouldn't even have a god damn rekkid if it weren't for all of the
"samples" they "used"

Jack






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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The 1st Wah Wah guitar
Date: 22 May 1997 09:44:08 -0700

I have a killer guitar record by an un-be-lieve-a-ble player name of Mel
Brown, actually have a couple of his records

BUT thhe 1st one he released solo wise was in 1967 and it was my
understanding that he was the 1st to use a wah wah.

It's on Impulse

I've got the soundtrack to "Don't Make Waves" and that does have some
tremendous stuff on it and yes you were right, it is composed by Vic Mizzy
Pretty great record.

Mel Brown is still around, Austin Texas.
He backed up everyone who was anyone in the Blues field of the 50's and 60's
Must have started when he was 10 years old;)

He is so unbelieveable a player, if you EVER get the chance to see him
play, RUN THERE

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Another Crazy Cocktail Party
Date: 22 May 1997 19:01:57 +0200

>From: Darrell Brogdon <[e-mail]>

>"Another Crazy Cocktail Party" (RCA 74321-39147-2)
>mostly swinging '60s and '70s instrumental pop.  Lots of Latin stuff, some
>EZ, even a
>couple of crime jazz-like tunes!  Think "Espresso Espresso" meets "The
>Sound Gallery".
>Appears this might have been released in 1996 on RCA Belgium, though this
>release is
>1997.

    i haven't seen it here in belgium (yet), though BMG belgium _did_
release a rather good, budget (only $10, which is absolutely cheap here!)
comp cd called "Crazy Cocktail Party" (74321 379972) in 1996, with 15
different tracks all together, that fit Darrell's description. "Bing Bang
Conga - Los Albinos" is on it too.

        Johan
        [e-mail]  =  [e-mail]
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From: Jonathan Perl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: synergistic Enoch Light event
Date: 22 May 1997 18:06:00 +0100


I am starting a mega stressful new project at work with a deadline on Aug
11th, so unfortunately won't have time to organise a London event.
But if anyone else is planning one and would like some DJing/promotional
help, please get in touch.
I love those records to death.

Jonny


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 22 May 1997 14:01:42 -0400

>  On the subject of sampling, look at all the clip art used in print in the
late '70s
>  and online in the '80s and '90s. In a lot of cases, the work is pretty dang
original.

I'm not taking ANY sides here, but clip art is a little different in that it
was created specifically to be appropriated (it also dates back further than
the 70's -- the 20's or even earlier maybe?). Purchase of a book or portfolio
of clip art included the right to use it in print. I guess an audio equivalent
would be sound effects or generic film music libraries.

>  Duchamp's Urinal piece. ( I don't know the correct title)

"Fountain" by "R. Mutt" (1917)

>  I wish that the business of administration could be taken over by ASCAP, BMI
&
>  Harry Fox and out of the hands of the record and publishing companies. I
would bet
>  that both the musicians sampling and being sampled would be better served.

That's the sticky point for me. It's hard to believe that the money is actually
getting back to the original artists, with so many corporate filters to pass
through along the way. Especially with older, more obscure material. Especially
when the sample is some little percussion fill by a session player whose name
may have been lost decades ago.

I don't sample, 'cause I'm lazy. It just seems easier to bash something out
myself.

m.ace
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From: Kerry Keane <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Stealing/Sampling/Tipsy
Date: 22 May 1997 12:49:41 -0500 (CDT)


I suppose at this point we could all get into a heady discussion about
what constitutes originality.  In most ethnic/folk musics, tunes are
borrowed and adapted freely, without much crowing about originality,
since you'd have to go back to the cave to find the source anyway.
Even in pop and rock music, there is much stealing going around; the only
difference is that one is expected to feel ashamed of it.  Certainly, in
art, collage has been around for more than 100 years.  I look at sampling
in much the same way.  That is not to say that all sampling constitutes
good collage--much of it is simply re-hash (remember Vanilla Ice?).
However, this kind of tired re-hash did not begin with sampling.  I
would say that a good collage or sampling piece takes the familiar elements
and toys with our familiarity with them (recontextualization is the academic
term).  Certainly, pastiche is not new in music or any other art form. The
thing that disturbs people about sampling, I think, is that it is a
reproduction of the thing. The reaction is very similar to people's
response to photography in the nineteenth-century.


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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) sampling
Date: 22 May 1997 11:49:26 PDT


It seems we've had this discussion before about a year ago...

Anyway, I am of two minds about the issue of sampling. i think it is
valid, but that the original artists deserve credit - if only recognition
in the liner notes.

But, let's not forget that much of the music we talk about on this list
in some way or another owes its popularity to how it, in fact, "borrowed"
or "stole" (depending on your side of the fence) from other genres.
The entire concept of "exotica" means middle-aged white guys genre-hopping
their way to the bank... I mean, what does Martin Denny know about Quite
(ooops) Quiet Villages, and what the hell is "Jungle Jazz?"
There are few exceptions - few "authentic" artists in the overall
exotica genre. They do exist, but mostly they are session players on
someone else's idea of "exotic."

All art feeds on other art, no art is created in a vacuum. Sampling just
distills that truth to an extreme.

Clark


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Announcing the CD issue of Electric Eclectics!
Date: 22 May 1997 14:50:10 -0400

Thank you for posting about this.  I have a story about this.  My mother
bought the single of "The Minotaur".  The other side is "Topless Dancers of
Corfu".  I was young enough not to know what the implication of "topless",
so I had vision of a faraway island where bunches of legs were dancing.

Since the label credited "Dick Hyman and his Electric Eclectics", I also
had a vision of a group of secretaries (The Eclectics) helping Mr. Hyman on
the record.

I don't know why I thought of secretaries, I do know that synthesizers were
able to monopolize a room at the time.




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From: Pablito! <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Announcing the CD issue of Electric Eclectics!
Date: 22 May 1997 15:40:32 -0400 (EDT)


> Thank you for posting about this.  I have a story about this.  My mother
> bought the single of "The Minotaur".  The other side is "Topless Dancers of
> Corfu".  I was young enough not to know what the implication of "topless",
> so I had vision of a faraway island where bunches of legs were dancing.
>
> Since the label credited "Dick Hyman and his Electric Eclectics", I also
> had a vision of a group of secretaries (The Eclectics) helping Mr. Hyman on
> the record.

LOL :)

I remember being young and seeing the cover to The Graduate soundtrack
and thinking that the movie was some raunchy adult fare based on the
appearance of Mrs. Robinson's nylon-clad leg over Dustin Hoffman's head.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) assorted reactions
Date: 22 May 1997 16:03:42 -0400 (EDT)

-Wanted to re-second that emotion for Vern Stolz's "Cannot Become Obsolete"
How else would I have learned that Glen Close was with the "Up With People"
organization. On the serious tip, Tony got it Right with his view of the
zine...
-Regarding Larry Elgart--Brother Cleve offered Mr. Elgart as an example of
"Wife-Swapper" Jazz when I recently asked after a thrifty purchase.......
-Lounge Laura Spotting--Browsing through the Lounge/EZ section of Mars
Records in Cambridge yesterday, I found myself competing with a tall blonde
in lime-green short bell bottoms for first "dibs" on looking. We got to
talking and--- you know the rest...She's comfortably ensconced (sp.?) here
and will be back as soon as possible. She sends her best to
all.................Jimmy Botticelli


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From: "Ben Waugh" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) i'm a winner, thanks
Date: 22 May 1997 16:17:22 -0400

You and I both. Trax 21 & 22 are pretty decent surf/guitar instrumentals.

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From: "Sevo Stille" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Stealing/Sampling/Tipsy
Date: 22 May 1997 22:41:49 +0200

----------
> From: J. Diamond <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
>...
> The way I see sampling is that it is stealing.  It's someone else's
> original music.
> Did you get permission to use it ?  No ?  Then you stole it, plain and =
simple.
> Not too difficult to comprehend, is it ?
>=20
> Just call a spade a spade 'cause that's what it is.
> There's no way around it

But then we get the problem: What is original music? Tunes and =
compositions=20
have been ripped off from time immemorial - indeed, the whole notion of =
a copyright=20
does not date back further than the 18th century.=20

Remember: Much of the music we are discussing on this list consists of =
stolen=20
bits and pieces from the work of more "serious" composers. Where are the =

original bits in the products of 1001 Strings, if it comes to that? Much =
of the=20
excitement out of exotica or exploitation music comes from all the =
familiar tunes=20
and sounds creeping up in the unlikeliest possible settings.
=20
Just because it has for the first time in the history of man become =
possible to=20
recycle entire interpretations just as it used to be possible with a =
tune, this=20
does not make it more or less stealing than, say, Enoch Light lifting a =
handy tune=20
out of somebody elses composition.=20

Sevo


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From: Bruce Rhodewalt <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Announcing the CD issue of Electric Eclectics!
Date: 22 May 1997 15:38:38 -0700

You and 50 million other horny 12-year-old boys.

(Guilty.)

Bruce

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> Thank you for posting about this.  I have a story about this.  My mother
> bought the single of "The Minotaur".  The other side is "Topless Dancers of
> Corfu".  I was young enough not to know what the implication of "topless",
> so I had vision of a faraway island where bunches of legs were dancing.
>
> Since the label credited "Dick Hyman and his Electric Eclectics", I also
> had a vision of a group of secretaries (The Eclectics) helping Mr. Hyman on
> the record.

LOL :)

I remember being young and seeing the cover to The Graduate soundtrack
and thinking that the movie was some raunchy adult fare based on the
appearance of Mrs. Robinson's nylon-clad leg over Dustin Hoffman's head.




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From: "Brian Carling (Radio G3XLQ / AF4K)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bands & artists
Date: 22 May 1997 18:42:12 +0000

Hey dude - how have you been?

Tell me some other not-so-well-known bands and artists that you
remember from the 1950-1970 era, OK?

You were EXCELLENT at identifying some of them a while back!

Do you remember Jett Black and Tony Meehan?

How about "Heinz?" Or "The KIng Bees?" I think they were just a local
college blues/rock band in about 1962-64 Cambridge!

Bry
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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) horny boys
Date: 22 May 1997 16:31:04 PDT

Oh! Did someone say 12-year-old horny boys?

oops, wrong list...

a BIG :-) to all!

Clark


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From: "Z-Man" <[e-mail]>
Subject:       (exotica) Horny - Gunter Norris
Date: 23 May 1997 09:13:29 +0000

This might be a long shot, but:

I just taxed a copy of "Gunter Norris - Horny" last
night, for twenty cents.  Groovy record - brass led versions of
"Apache", "A Taste of Honey" and other such 60's staples.  Also
includes an incredible saxaphone version of "Popcorn" arranged in a
70's blaxploitation style, (all funky guitars and cooing girls).

The whole thing gives the impression of a 70's porn soundtrack,
complemented by the cover:  a girl with blue eyeshadow and a diamente
string bikini shot in soft focus as she toots on a sax, the words
"Horny" emblazoned in letraset on the top left hand corner.

And on the back cover?  Gunter himself - with the type of cheesy
smile and shellacked blonde hair-helmet-cum-toupee that Mike Flowers
could possibly be imitating.  The whole package a masterpiece of
cover design that justifiably earnt itself a "display place" in my
collection.

The most tantalizing part?  The liner notes explain this is Volume
1 of 3!  So, has anyone out there sighted Vols 2 or 3?  Any history
of to who Gunter was?


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From: [e-mail] (Joe Gore)
Subject: Re: (exotica) sampling ethics
Date: 22 May 1997 18:09:04 -0800

>The Tipsy project does reflect some interesting solutions to the Sampling
>Problem.  Basically, the two main guys in Tipsy had access to Vale's (of
>RE/Search) record collection, which they sampled into something like the
>Tipsy CD.  Sampling clearance was impossible after the fact, so they got
>talented local musicians to recreate the original samples, then they sampled
>those.  Apparently some cultural penumbra/shadow/echo was lost, but musically
>it's basically the same.  (though I'd love to hear the original tape)

heh-heh...

wanna buy some prime farmland in the Florida Keys?

--JG




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From: [e-mail] (Ursula Blind)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge on NPR
Date: 22 May 1997 18:20:02 -0800

>npr people are a bunch bond-fide nerds anyway
>
>sober, droll, tweedy types that earn about $6.00 an hour
>
>fuck 'em, that's what their opinions are worth !
>
>paul / mighty recording co.

Good thing Lounge Laura's offline or she'd spear you with a 5" stiletto for
calling her "tweedy!"

--Ursula




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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Erotica, The Rhythms of Love
Date: 22 May 1997 22:30:51 -0700

I've seen this CD for a little while now and have held it in my hands
_seriously_ thinking of buying it BUT still haven't.

It's cover is red and in whatever other light color it says somethin to the
effect of "EROTICA, THE RHYTHMS OF LOVE" and it's on this no-name label.

It reminds me ALOT of this rekkid I have called Music for Sensuous Lovers
by "Z"
The music is realized, composed and arranged by Mort Garson.

The cover is the same on both sides as it is also in RED with I suppose
white lettering.

What the record is though is this pop bubbly noodling of electronics with
the very real sounds of a very real sexy sounding woman having a very real
orgasm

Side 1 is Climax 1 and side 2 is Climax 2.  Runs about 28 minutes I suppose
Pretty damn great

I WANT THIS CD to be the same thing...
It's actually a budget job too at I think 8 or 9 bucks but I'm just not
willing to take the chance.

Did anyone here take the chance and has this cd I'm talking about ?

Jack


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From: "Sevo Stille" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Horny - Gunter Norris
Date: 23 May 1997 11:02:40 +0200



----------
> Von: Z-Man <[e-mail]>
> An: [e-mail]
> Betreff: (exotica) Horny - Gunter Norris
> Datum: Freitag, 23. Mai 1997 11:13
>=20
> This might be a long shot, but:
>=20
> I just taxed a copy of "Gunter Norris - Horny" last=20
> night, for twenty cents.  Groovy record - brass led versions of=20
> "Apache", "A Taste of Honey" and other such 60's staples.  Also=20
> includes an incredible saxaphone version of "Popcorn" arranged in a=20
> 70's blaxploitation style, (all funky guitars and cooing girls).
>=20
> The most tantalizing part?  The liner notes explain this is Volume=20
> 1 of 3!  So, has anyone out there sighted Vols 2 or 3?  Any history=20
> of to who Gunter was?

Might be an anglicized version of G=FCnter Noris. He rivalled James Last =
as=20
a TV personality in Germany in the early seventies, and was leader of =
the=20
Bundeswehr big band - whose TV show appearances playing JL'esque=20
music in full uniform made for some of the most ridiculous moments in=20
my childhood TV reminescences.

Sevo


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From: Ariel Tagar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tony Bennett and me.
Date: 23 May 1997 12:35:52 +0300 (IDT)

I met Tony Bennett about 3 years ago in Paris at the
Hard Rock Cafe. They had this PR party for a reissue or
something for him and a freind invited me. when I came to talk
to him, a croud of photographers started shooting him
madly and he was so obssesed with being photographed,
he didn't even notice me(!) (even after I touched his
shoulder for some attantion). that was the sad part.
BUT, Couple of days later, paris papers had a big picture
of tony at the party with me in the back!!!
(next month on the EZ page- the picture I took!)
That's it.
Ariel
The EASY PAGE, Easy listening and lounge culture.
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/3076
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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Erotica, The Rhythms of Love
Date: 23 May 1997 05:49:04 -0700

J. Diamond wrote:
>
> I've seen this CD for a little while now and have held it in my hands
> _seriously_ thinking of buying it BUT still haven't.
>
> It's cover is red and in whatever other light color it says somethin to the
> effect of "EROTICA, THE RHYTHMS OF LOVE" and it's on this no-name label.

I've got a record of the exact same title on the FAX label.  Could this be it???  Early
sixties, "an experimental high fidelity recording featuring the sounds and rhythms of
erotic love."  There are no tracks - each side is nothing more than a sqeaking bed,
bongos and a lot of moans and groans from a couple.  That's about it, really.  Then
there is EROTICA, THE SONGS OF LOVE, which is a collection of (pretty lame, I think)
songs with sexual references lightly thrown in.

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From: "Ray Coffey"<[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Laura Wah R U? Buying tweed capri pants?
Date: 23 May 1997 11:25:35 -0400


YO!  'tsup?
Laura where are you...? JP?  E-mail me.  We have to talk.

Thanks to my old friend Tim who gave me a Vox Wah-Wah pedal he got at a
garage sale.
Now to find all the Vox equipment to go along with it... and the money for
it.
Does anyone want info I can glean from the cover plate printing on the
bottom?

Those recording types... always wearing jeans and T- or sweatshirts, and
earning ?/hour.
But hey, he said what he said (and that's all what he said)
and was defending us against Milo's verbal assault and
helping to build knee-jerk pride for Exotica and ilk.
(What the hell does the above mean?)

I'll try to read Milo (buy a transcript? <www.npr.org>?) and see what he
says.
I mean, I really doubt he's a moron, and he may have some points to make.
But if it is merely a matter of taste, I readily admit that mine is far
from top shelf.
If he doesn't agree, oh well.  Then he won't be buying it, and I'll enjoy!
And what does the person in charge of music beds for ATC think of Milo?
They must have had a fistfight.  Also, didn't he file that report from
WBUR?
Or did he really go to Philly (WHYY)?  Just wondering.


Bon weekend a tout!  Et a tout, un bon weekend!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge on NPR
Date: 23 May 1997 12:20:05 -0400 (EDT)


 [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> At 03:13 PM 5/21/97 -0500, Darrell Brogdon of Lawrence, KS wrote:
>> >Anybody hear the review of Capitol's Ultra-Lounge series on NPR's
>> Fresh Air today?  I only got to hear the last minute or so, but it was
clearly a
>> very, very negative review.  The critic--and I do mean CRITIC--was Milo
Miles.
>============
>
>npr people are a bunch bond-fide nerds anyway
>
>sober, droll, tweedy types that earn about $6.00 an hour
>
>fuck 'em, that's what their opinions are worth !
>
>paul / mighty recording co.

Gosh, if I could point to any one thing that, at least around here, has
had the greatest impact in proliferating this sort of music, I'd have to
say it's NPR.

The first I heard about this whole odd corner of pop music was when Irwin
Chusid and Juan Esquivel were on Fresh Air, plugging the first Bar None
CD. (I could also swear I caught the end of a clip w/ Irwin on Morning
Edition at that time, but he'd have to confirm that one) The first copy
of that CD I'd seen was purchased by a guy at work who also happened to
be listening to that show, and immediately ordered it through the "NPR
Music Store" mail order thingie. I didn't see a copy on a retail shelf
for a couple more months, when it was obviously catching on. I, in turn,
turned on a bunch of other friends to the music, who...well, you get the
idea. If this is any indication of what was going on elsewhere in the US,
that broadcast, followed by word of mouth of people realizing how
genuinely wonderful this stuff was, had a LOT to do with Esquivel
becoming such a hit.

When the first wave of Ultra-Lounge CDs was released, All Things
Considered did a big story on the series. The next day I went to the
local CD retailer I frequent (and often special order from), and the
manager, with this look of desperation in his eyes asked me, "WHAT is
going on? We've just been flooded the past couple days with people asking
for these Ultra-Lounge things, which we obviously under-ordered. I can
usually see trends coming, but I have NO idea what's happening out there.
Help me, please!"

I wager I probably would have stumbled across this stuff anyway through
my more esoteric media circles, but I still think NPR has played a major
role in attracting new listeners in droves and expanding it beyond a
secret music clique.

I still haven't heard what this Milo guy had to say, but he's certainly
entitled to not understand or appreciate this stuff. (His loss! ;-) But
*I* don't even care for ALL the stuff on those Ultra-Lounge CDs.) But I
suppose a rebuttal was only fair and balanced to their prior PRO-lounge
coverage.

NPR may be far from perfect, but it's some of the better media on the
airwaves, IMO.


Michael David Toth
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From: [e-mail] (Doug Frisby)
Subject: (exotica) Blast Off and Cugie!
Date: 23 May 1997 10:23:03 -0700


     As of May 13th, Varese Sarabande released Ferrante & Teicher's "Blast
     Off!" with four bonus tracks from "With Percussion". They also
     released an Xavier Cugat Decca records stereo compilation called
     "Cugie A-Go-Go". The third in the series of "off-beat" Lounge releases
     was the aforementioned Dick Hyman Moog album.

     You can find them on the web at www.footlight.com/newcoolsounds.shtml
     OR at most record stores around the country.

     I highly recommend these (partially because I co-produced the first
     two) but mostly because they're quite fun. Do yourself a favor (as
     well as the future of Lounge re-issues) and plop down the $9 to $11 if
     you can afford it.

     I'll back my recommendations with a limited time guarantee. If you're
     not satisfied with the Cugat or Ferrante & Teicher CD, contact me
     personally and I should be able to compensate you for the cost. Thanks
     for your support.

     Doug




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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Another Crazy Cocktail Party
Date: 23 May 1997 19:08:52 +0200

forgot to include the track list of that first "Crazy Cocktail Party" cd
(74321 379972):

Reg Owen and his Orchestra   Kazoo
The Peter Loland Orchestra   Pink Suite
Los Mayas   Maria Magdalena
Jean Claude Pelletier et son orchestre   Saint Averty's Blues
Willy Albimoor and his Orchestra   Tender Passion
The Golden Dream Orchestra   Are You Afraid
The Waikikis   Sugar Moon
Los Albinos   Bing Bang Conga
Jack Say and his Orchestra   Allahabad
Peter Kreuder and his Copacabanas   Argentine Serenade
Nico Gomez and his Orchestra   Manhattan Mambo
The Mertens Brothers   Panama Patrol
Ruben Calzadeo and his Latin Orchestra   Harlem Nocturne
David Bee and his Orchestra   Ballet Mambo
Teddy Mertens, His Trumpet And His Orchestra   Lonesome Heart
Reg Owen and his Orchestra   Jack The Ripper


        Johan
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sampling Quagmire
Date: 23 May 1997 14:32:28 -0400

I really didn't want to get drawn into this any further, but I guess I've got a
weak will.

I don't feel that music's age-old swipe tradition is exactly the same as
sampling. Sure, ALL music builds on what has gone before. Even wild innovators
usually have something in common with the vocabulary of the past. But this is
not exactly the same as sampling. 'Cause even if they're trying to do a perfect
imitation, the swipers involuntarily add something of themselves to the new
version -- another link of (at least slight) variation in the music chain.
Sampling can manipulate sounds, which could be seen as an additive element, but
you're still not getting a new biological presence in the music.

Sorry, Can't Resist Dept: I don't think the Asmat tribe of New Guinea is
creating their totems by sawing up other folks' completed totems and glueing
the pieces together.

But, honest, I don't really object to sampling (especially if they credit their
sources). I'm just saying it's a totally different animal than traditional
music making (swipes and all). Listening to some sample pieces is like watching
a jigsaw puzzle come to life. I can kind of see sampling as deejay-ing taken to
a level of microscopic detail. It can also be seen in the tradition of Edgard
Varese's tape compositions (as well as other early electronic composers).
Unfortunately, most artists don't get that creative, but that's another story.
Sampling brings up a whole lot of interesting possibilities and (witness this
thread) obviously throws big challenges at our conceptions of music -- which is
a healthy thing. At this moment I'm thinking that while sampling may be a
dead-end as far as the biological music DNA chain, it does serve as an
interesting laboratory for ideas -- which can feed back into the biological
chain.

Don't mind me -- I've watched way too many mad scientist movies.

m.ace
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From: Vik Trola <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cannot Become Obsolete
Date: 23 May 1997 15:12:38 -0500

>Man, that's pretty depressing that you did not think to include Tiki News in
>your top 6 favorite fanzines


figured everyone already know about tiki news...plus it was simply an
oversight. always beautifully illustrated and chock full of swell tikis...

great pate mom, but i gotta motor if i'm going to make the funeral,
Vik

Vik's Lounge
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html

Space Age Bachelor Pad Music
http://www.chaoskitty.com/sabpm/




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) WSJ Article & Kon-Tiki
Date: 23 May 1997 18:37:21 -0400 (EDT)

The 5/22 Wall Street Journal article mentioned was short but sweet,  focusing
on the Ultra Lounge reissues as bringing back music that was bought by
milllions, but ignored and eventually forgotten in the giant shadow cast by
rock and roll. While mentioning the theory that GI's returning from the
Pacific helped fuel the exotica craze, the author also credited the huge 1947
best-seller Kon-Tiki (y'know, the raft trip from South America to Polynesia)
as significantly raising the USA's exoti-consciousness.
Coincidentally, last week my local PBS station had shown the Kon-Tiki movie
filmed by the crew. I noticed just a smidgeon of music behind a few giggling
polynesian dancing girls at the end of the journey, but the film was truly
fascinating and quite an adventure, well worth an hour of your time if it
pops up in your area.  I'm neither an anthropologist or a sailor, but the
film gave some real-world context to the spirit of the exotic music we all
love.

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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bands & artists
Date: 23 May 1997 17:53:45 -0700

>Jet Black and Tony Meehan were at one time members of The Shadows.  Heinz
>was a member of The Tornandos, and went solo with the help of Joe Meek. In
>fact, Meek killed his landlady and himself with Heinz's rifle.

-----------------
Tosh Berman
TamTam Books
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From: "Lar E. Warner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ipcress File
Date: 23 May 1997 18:06:46 -0700 (PDT)

I'm looking for the soundtrack to this movie, you know the one, with
Michael Caine as the sneering Harry Palmer.  I think it was a John Barry
score.  Please let me know if you've seen it around -

L "listen to me..."


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge on NPR
Date: 23 May 1997 18:41:36 -0700 (PDT)

At 12:20 PM 5/23/97 -0400, Michael David Toth wrote:
>The first I heard about this whole odd corner of pop music was when Irwin
>Chusid and Juan Esquivel were on Fresh Air, plugging the first Bar None
>CD. (I could also swear I caught the end of a clip w/ Irwin on Morning
>Edition at that time, but he'd have to confirm that one)

I have a cassette tape of that story from ME which aired in 1994.  At the
time, it was my only reference to Esquivel.  In 1995, I wanted to air a
program with music by Esquivel and others and went back to that tape to get
the name of the release.  When I called the Public Radio Music Source
(1-800-75-MUSIC) to order it, they had no idea what I was talking about.
"There is no Barn-un listing and nothing under Es-kee-vell."  So I gave
up...that is, until I got the Incredibly Strange Music books from RESearch
(not quite sure I have the titles right).  Then I called again and ordered
with written information to rely on.  Since then, independent record stores
became "experts" on the music and chain record stores at least stocked some
of the Ultra Lounge series.

I would have to agree, the NPR news organization has done well for this kind
of music.  You must remember, though, that Fresh Air is not directly
produced by NPR News, but by WHYY.  While affliates of NPR News can
subscribe through NPR to get Fresh Air, it is really a very separate
editorial body. And just because someone is on FA doesn't mean the decision
to put them on was due to WHYY's interest in the music.  Often guests are
put on to allow Terry Gross to challenge them on the airwaves, not to
showcase their product.  WHYY is not in charge of the Tonight Show.

It is non-commercial radio which has really pushed the music envelope to
allow more people to get interested in this kind of music.  With programs
such as Darrell Brogdon's "Retro Cocktail Hour" at KANU in Lawrence, Kansas
and other local shows, people began listening and wondering "Where do I get
this music?"  These stations, mostly NPR affiliates, knew a good thing and
pursued it.  Record companies which service these stations noticed the trend
and began putting out more.

Add to this people like Quentin Tarentino in the movie industry and the
various proponents who were connected with the recording industry, and you
create a nationwide trend.

Obviously, the re-emergence of this music did not start with NPR or public
stations.  It did not even start with record companies.  Most likely, it
started on the club scene with some enterprising djs and grew from there.
However, its the media, including NPR, which brought the interest to a
nationwide audience.

Anyway, critics who blast anything usually do nothing to dissuade people
from buying.  People often go out to at least test the critic's assumptions
and will ask others about their opinions or even buy a sample of the music.
The review simply raises consciousness, which can only be good for good
things. A bad review is better than no review.

Byron Caloz
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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sampling Quagmire
Date: 23 May 1997 19:03:08 -0700

Here's my 2.5 cents on the sampling issue...

To me it's an extension of the folk music process. Instead of borrowing
words or
chord patterns or feels from musical *performance* traditions, you're
borrowing (and referencing) those same things from the tradition of
*recorded* music. For alot of people making music today, that's the
closest thing to a "folk tradition" that they know- radio and records.
Alot of kids doing electronic music today just don't relate to the live
music medium- they only really know recorded music. It often seems hard
for us to realize that until relatively recently the only way you could
hear and participate in music was to either go see someone play it or
learn how to play it yourself. The upright piano used to be the rough
equivilent of the home stereo. So if we're talking about two separate
folk traditions here- live music and recorded music- there are two
separate ways to look at the issue of influence or borrowing. The only
way to borrow from the live music tradition is to imitate, with varying
degrees of exactness. An appropriate (though not the only) way to borrow
from the recorded music tradition is to sample, with varying degrees of
editing and customization of the audio. When you hear a James Brown
sample in a hip hop track, the reference is very specically being made
to a *recording* and not really to just a song, riff, drum pattern,
vocal style, melody, chord pattern, etc. That specific recording is the
cultural artifact being referred to by the artist doing the sampling.
Obviously, if nothing creative is done with the sample, it can be really
boring and derivitive. But with a little creativity, alot of new light
has been shed on alot of tired old recordings through sampling/collage
techniques.

At any rate... it's a debate that's been debated to death already.

I suppose the bottom line for me is, if I didn't know how to make music
other than with samples, I'd feel pretty
restricted and lame. Since I have a choice, often times that approach is
pretty intriguing. It's just another form of collaboration. Some folks
collaborate with other musicians, some with chance processes, some with
drugs/alcohol, some with history, some with samples, some with "God,"
etc. It's another way of introducing that vital element of mystery into
a project that often can allow you to see it more objectively and remove
the self-conscious edge. It's like how it's much easier to enjoy someone
else's music than it is for you to enjoy your own music, even though
theoretically what most musicians try to create is their idea of a
"perfect" piece of music.

yada yada yada...

pea
--
                        Pea Hicks
               "Memory is my drug of choice."
               <---Realm 'O' The Optigan--->
               http://www.pilot.com/optigan
               Who will be the next to brave
                   the *perils* of the
                    VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??!


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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ipcress File
Date: 24 May 1997 06:20:50 -0700

Lar E. Warner wrote:
>
> I'm looking for the soundtrack to this movie, you know the one, with
> Michael Caine as the sneering Harry Palmer.  I think it was a John Barry
> score.  Please let me know if you've seen it around -

John Barry at his best...bright red cover with a black revolver and the words "Top
Secret" on it.  I have not seen the vinyl advertised much on collector's lists or in
used record stores, but it is well worth finding.  If you get tired of searching for it,
fear not.  I've spotted it at a Virgin CD Store - but it's a thirty dollar import.



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From: [e-mail] (Br. Cleve)
Subject: (exotica) spy electronica
Date: 24 May 1997 13:08:00 -0400

=46ans of both spy music and electronica will want to check out the new
release "Serialement V=F4tre" (Commando/BMG FRANCE 743214-80231-1).
Abstract-Beat driven reconstructions of TV and movie themes, including "The
Avengers", "Hawaii 5-O", "The Saint", "Mannix", "James Bond Theme", etc, by
some of the best artists in the French underground: Dimitri From Paris,
Snooze, Bang Bang, DJ Cam and The Mighty Bop, among them. There is also a
12" EP available with different mixes of 4 of the tracks.

There's a lot of great music coming out of France these days. "Source Lab
3" has new tracks by Jean-Jacques Perrey & Air (possibly the best
EZ/electronic group); "Yellow Connection", a compilation of the Yellow
label, contains the groovy "Quelles Sensations Bizarre", which would not
sound out of place on "Moog Indigo". Also on Yellow, 2 10" records by Kid
Loco, "The Real Pop Porn Music", Volumes 1 and 2.

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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ultra-Lounge on NPR
Date: 24 May 1997 17:23:39 -0500

[e-mail],internet writes:
>
>NPR may be far from perfect, but it's some of the better media on the
>airwaves, IMO.

I have to agree, I've also heard lots of wacky easy-Listening used as music
bumpers between stories on All things Considered for at least the last year. As
for Milo Miles, he may not get the easy-listening thing but he has turned me on
to some other musics through his reviews on Fresh Air. The music we discuss on
this conference seems to bring fourth a very strong emotional reaction from
him, although not positive and, I find that much more interesting than whether
or not he gets it. Don't we all align ourselves with certain styles of music
and feel that somehow it represents who we are and how we see ourselves?

for example;
      disco sucks -for rock
      keep it real -hip hop
      Bird lives    - Be bop
      jungle nation - drum and Bass
      no future       - punk

Regards to all,

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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sampling Quagmire
Date: 24 May 1997 17:57:33 -0500

m.ace,[e-mail],internet writes:
>Sorry, Can't Resist Dept: I don't think the Asmat tribe of New Guinea is
>creating their totems by sawing up other folks' com

Hi M.ace,
  I guess I wasn't clear when I brought up the tribe in new Guinea, I didn't
mean to imply that it had anything to do with or was comparable to the practice
of sampling. I only wanted to raise the issue of our relationship to what we
create as private property (The music or Art) as something we own which we
attach a value to and can be used in commerce. I feel that our discussion of
the "ethics" of sampling functions within this western view of Art and it could
be interesting to broaden our view a bit.

I agree with you that samples should credited but where does one draw the line?
A snare drum, and open Hi-hat, two notes from a horn section which is then used
to play a different melody on the keyboard? Believe me I don't have the answer,
but it sure is an ethics question. that's why I thought that standardizing
payments through ASCAP, BMI might be a solution since Payment for sampling is
already corporate and Byzantine because it's the record companies and
publishing companies that are doing the negotiations with the sample houses and
the artists.

I do see sampling as evolutionary in that I think that what drives one to
sample is the same instinct that drove composers to "draw inspiration" from
another piece of music. The key point for me is that it's the technology of
sampling, the easy of use and the wide availability  that has brought a
creative practice into existence which previously did not exist, all within the
space of fifteen years give or take.

 despite all this technology I don't think anything replaces the experience for
either the listener or musician of people playing music together. This requires
a special type of listening which is almost impossible to create writing music
with a computer and sampler. I think we will start to see adaption of the
technology into more truly "live" playing experiences.

Jonny Sender
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From: [e-mail] (Jonny.S)
Subject: Re: (exotica) spy electronica
Date: 24 May 1997 18:23:54 -0500

Br. Cleve,[e-mail],internet writes:
> "Serialement VÖtre"
 I listened to it at Throb the other day and I have to say I wasn't that
knocked out. It was a little to ordinary in my humble "but biased" opinion. But
like they say "everyone's a critic.'

 i did pick up, and love"Orchestral Party Act1" on SGP records. its sub titled
"psyche & easy listening from france" very psychadelic gogo with french vocals.


Planeten Sit-In - the Cosmic Jokers mid 70's German electronic art rock
featuring Manuel Gottsching ( remember E2-E4?) Like ambiant but with much more
flubby analog synth action.

And a new 12" from france - Bno featuring a smashing disco house easy-listening
track " Just About Right" by dimitri from paris complete with cool sylabic
vocals. this track really gets the Easy-House combo right. I did check out
Richard Camron's set at Windows on the World and I'm sorry to say I was
underwhelmed although lucien sounded good.

 And every one IS a critic... including me.
 jonny Sender





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Glyn Styler/MSR/NPR
Date: 24 May 1997 21:25:30 -0400 (EDT)

While in New Orleans for the Jazz Fest, I caught a favorite local act that
has opened for Com Ed several times that would be of interest to members of
this list. Glyn Styler is a ratpack/jobim styled crooner with an
exceptional talent for melody and a devastatingly witty and vicious way
with lyrics. His first CD,"Live at the Mermaid Lounge" is now available
from Truckstop Records(ALP303) and comes <highly recommended> by yours
truly.

Another couple of new CDs that will amaze anybody who enjoys genuinely
fucked-up experiences are Volumes 3 & 4 of the "MSR Madness" Song/Poem
series from Carnage Press; "The Human Breakdown of Absurdity" and "I'm Just
The Other Woman". If you're familiar with the first two volumes, you might
not believe that anything could top them for sheer naive surrealism...but
it's been done!

Also...did anybody hear anything about a piece about the Lounge movement on
NPR's "Fresh Air"? A friend told me that she heard it previewed, but it
didn't sound like it was going to be to complimentary so she didn't tune in.

in vino veritas,

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Return of the Flint Double Feature
Date: 25 May 1997 11:00:51 -0400

AMC is double-billing the Flint movies ("Our Man Flint" & "In Like Flint")
again this Wednesday night (May 28).

8:30 pm & 10:30 pm for the pan & scan versions.

2:30 am & 4:30 am for the wide-screen letterbox versions.

(eastern daylight times)

m.ace
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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Chaino LP
Date: 25 May 1997 22:58:40 -0700

I picked up an album on the Hallmark label (an in-house label for Radio
Shack in the late 1950s, I gather) by Chaino and His African Percussion
Safari.  Is this an earlier Chaino LP under another name?

The tracks are:

A:  The Jungle Chase/Torture of the Mau-Mau/Go-Gona Voodo/The Feast
Dance/The Limbo
B:  Jungle Drum Variations/Cum-Ba-See/The Spear Dance/Safari Jungle Maze

All compositions are credited to "Kirby Allan"

Anyone?  Anyone?

Brad


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From: basic hip <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino LP
Date: 26 May 1997 08:53:17 -0700

Brad Bigelow wrote:

> I picked up an album on the Hallmark label (an in-house label for Radio
> Shack in the late 1950s, I gather) by Chaino and His African Percussion
> Safari.  Is this an earlier Chaino LP under another name?
> Anyone?  Anyone?

Me, Me!  I've got this Chaino LP with same tracks you listed called "Jungle Echoes".  On
the Omega label.  Quite a cover - a tribesman with a painted face, feathered head dress
and clothed in leopard skin.  Listen to Jungle Chase - ooooo, mama!



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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) product
Date: 25 May 1997 20:13:52 -0500

just a few comments on recently purchased cd's, some just mentioned
here:

sweden heaven and hell - agreed with the others.  unusual variety of
tunes culled from one theme...   featuring doo-doo-dooing, whistling,
and 3 avant jazz numbers with Gato Barbieri

beat at cinecitta - i like this quite a bit more than jill seems to,
think it's excellent in fact (and it's only the first of a projected
series of three)  Very jazzy, touch of action spy, some
surf/mersey beat, hyper wordless vocals...   and that two-word
lyric thing with Edda del'Orso chanting  'sexually..  sexually...
sexually... ...  again..  again !'    hot stuff!

jerry van rooyen at 250 miles per hour - another crippled dick
release, also excellent imo.  includes music from four Jesse Franco
films.  as the title implies, this is mostly manic beat driven....
heavy on the sax jazz with an excitable organ (!)

raumpatrouille (space patrol) - this is the peter thomas masterpiece
that was mentioned here ages ago.  my favorite of the handful
listed, this is truly brilliant work..  spacey effects with playfully
intriguing rhythms and instrumentation..  and even more playful joe
meekish vocals on occassion.  essential!!!

the super sounds of bosworth - also mentioned here long ago, but
frightfully expensive from the states...  well assembled collection
of incidental music done for 60's & 70's film - all found recently in
a particular warehouse.  oddly familiar, but..  well..  odd and
inventive tunes - some very experimental electronic shorts.
strangely endearing compilation

further in-flight entertainment - luckily, i got this one second hand
so it didn't cost much.  highly mediocre collection - ok, but
certainly not worth the price of import in the states.  i'll keep
this copy for the bridgette bardot tune (!) and the wild bollywood
one two cha cha cha...  though i also like yellow world and teenie
weenie boppie.  disappointing, but i still wish i could be at madame
jo jo's this tuesday where karminsky will be participating in the
celebration of club indigo's third anniversary!...   a london based
report to the list is expected...

back in Yuckville,
kevin

p.s. - the prolific laetitia from stereolab is joined by bandmate
mary in lending vocals to the new mouse on mars ep, cache coeur naif
- very worth getting if you're into 'em.

"jet lag...   it's a drag!" - tina peel


kevin king
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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) product
Date: 26 May 1997 12:38:23 -0500


just a few comments on recently purchased cd's, some just mentioned
here:

sweden heaven and hell - agreed with the others.  unusual variety of
tunes culled from one theme...   featuring doo-doo-dooing, whistling,
and 3 avant jazz numbers with Gato Barbieri

beat at cinecitta - i like this quite a bit more than jill seems to,
think it's excellent in fact (and it's only the first of a projected
series of three)  Very jazzy, touch of action spy, some surf/mersey
beat, hyper wordless vocals...   and that two-word lyric thing with
Edda del'Orso chanting  'sexually..  sexually... sexually... ...
again..  again !'    hot stuff!

jerry van rooyen at 250 miles per hour - another crippled dick
release, also excellent imo.  includes music from four Jesse Franco
films.  as the title implies, this is mostly manic beat driven....
heavy on the sax jazz with an excitable organ (!)

raumpatrouille (space patrol) - this is the peter thomas masterpiece
that was mentioned here ages ago.  my favorite of the handful  listed,
this is truly brilliant work..  spacey effects with playfully
intriguing rhythms and instrumentation..  and even more playful joe
meekish vocals on occassion.  essential!!!

the super sounds of bosworth - also mentioned here long ago, but
frightfully expensive from the states...  well assembled collection of
incidental music done for 60's & 70's film - all found recently in a
particular warehouse.  oddly familiar, but..  well..  odd and
inventive tunes - some very experimental electronic shorts.  strangely
endearing compilation

further in-flight entertainment - luckily, i got this one second hand
so it didn't cost much.  highly mediocre collection - ok, but
certainly not worth the price of import in the states.  i'll keep this
copy for the bridgette bardot tune (!) and the wild bollywood one two
cha cha cha...  though i also like yellow world and teenie weenie
boppie.  disappointing, but i still wish i could be at madame jo jo's
this tuesday where karminsky will be participating in the celebration
of club indigo's third anniversary!...   a london based report to the
list is expected...

back in Yuckville,
kevin

p.s. - the prolific laetitia from stereolab is joined by bandmate mary
in lending vocals to the new mouse on mars ep, cache coeur naif - very
worth getting if you're into 'em.



kevin king
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http://www.radix.net/~xanadu


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From: "Derek Grime" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) MSR
Date: 26 May 1997 17:48:21 -0400

On May 24,  9:25pm, [e-mail] wrote:
> Subject: (exotica) Glyn Styler/MSR/NPR

> Another couple of new CDs that will amaze anybody who enjoys genuinely
> fucked-up experiences are Volumes 3 & 4 of the "MSR Madness" Song/Poem
> series from Carnage Press; "The Human Breakdown of Absurdity" and "I'm Just
> The Other Woman". If you're familiar with the first two volumes, you might
> not believe that anything could top them for sheer naive surrealism...but
> it's been done!
> The Millionaire
>

Speaking of MSR tunes I was lucky enough to score an original Rod Rogers
(and his Swinging Strings) 45 on the weekend.  This was in Toronto of all
places...

The A side is a great and stupid track called "Twisting on the Moon".
The lyrics defy logic with lines like "See you later at the crater will
become a common phrase".   The flip is about a racetrack, though it's
impossible to tell what sort of race is happening.

My question is:  I assumed these were very limited releases of a couple dozen
each.  Did artists like Rod Rogers cut regular 45's as well as the usual
song-poem numbers?  Maybe the twist craze forced him out into the open for
one brief moment?

This 45 is on the Film City label.




--
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re:Cool Book
Date: 26 May 1997 17:59:02 -0400 (EDT)

Picked up a copy of "Hi-Fi's/Hi-Balls, The Golden Age of the American
Bachelor" today at my local Tower Records store. Very nice text and pics.
Only $12.95. Also heard snippets of the "Swingers" soundtrack. I liked what I
heard a lot. There's also a cool article in the newest Rolling Stone on Jakob
Dylan. He's on the cover. I know, I know, not exotica-related, but I like his
band a lot, and I still pray to his dad.
Gloria


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From: Pablito! <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Regarding "Moon Gas" and unusual cover
Date: 27 May 1997 01:24:05 -0400 (EDT)


Recently snagged a mono copy of Dick Hyman's "Moon Gas" and noticed
something unusual:  on the edge of the back cover, where it isn't covered
by the pasted-on liner notes, I can see the catalog number and the word
'STEREO'... this means that they simply produced the record with the
stereo cover and mono cover back to back and pasted the liner notes on
the opposite side.  Was this a common practice?  I don't recall seeing
anything like this in my collection.  Maybe it's due to the fact that the
writing is so close to the edge unlike other LPs.

By the way... for those wondering, Moon Gas IS a terrific album.  A bit
more sedate and commonplace on a couple tracks, but overall, a completely
original, inventive and breakthrough LP.  Worth every bit of the hype.

pablito!

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Philadelphia College of Textiles and Science
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) WSJ article - need copy
Date: 27 May 1997 09:42:06 -0400

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>
> Mark Reed <[e-mail]> WROTE:
>
> ALERT!   The Wall Street Journal in today's edition (22 May 1997) has a
> column on lounge music and culture on A13.

Does anyone have a xerox they can send me?
Contact me via e-mail for mailing address.
Much obliged!
    --Irwin C. <[e-mail]>

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From: [e-mail] (Clark Scheffy)
Subject: (exotica) Covers and Slicks (was Regarding Moongas)
Date: 27 May 1997 07:28:23 PDT

Regarding the pasting of covers (or slicks as they are called) on opposite sides
for stereo or mono recordings, yes - this was common practice. Many labels also
simply made one cover and listed the stereo and mono catalog number, and then
basically you had to check the spine to figure out which one you have, other
times (as with many of Arthur Lyman's and other records on Life) the stereo
was denoted only with a sticker.

My copy of Esquivel's Latin-esque, (the second-issue, not the die-cut
Stereo Action) has the wrong slick on the back! - Instead of Esquivel's
track list, the slick is from the Three Suns "Movin' And Groovin'".

Clark

---------------------
Recently snagged a mono copy of Dick Hyman's "Moon Gas" and noticed
something unusual:  on the edge of the back cover, where it isn't covered
by the pasted-on liner notes, I can see the catalog number and the word
'STEREO'... this means that they simply produced the record with the
stereo cover and mono cover back to back and pasted the liner notes on
the opposite side.  Was this a common practice?  I don't recall seeing
anything like this in my collection.  Maybe it's due to the fact that the
writing is so close to the edge unlike other LPs.

By the way... for those wondering, Moon Gas IS a terrific album.  A bit
more sedate and commonplace on a couple tracks, but overall, a completely
original, inventive and breakthrough LP.  Worth every bit of the hype.

pablito!


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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Brief Note on Dogfood Advertising
Date: 27 May 1997 16:15:59 +0100

Esquivel's version of "Johnson Rag" is now being used to advertise
Pedigree Chum Dogfood here in the UK ("Top Breeders recommend
it... because it's SOLID NOURISHMENT"), thus upping the stakes in the
commercial necrotoon race of late.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ZINE: #5 Issue of Cool and Strange Music! Magazine is out now
Date: 27 May 1997 13:37:40 -0400 (EDT)

Dana Countryman, publisher of C&SM!, asked me to pass this along.
Cheers,
Lou

Issue #5 of Cool And Strange Music! Magazine is here, and it's another
Rootin'-Tootin', Swing-O-Rama!

It's another big issue, a whopping 48 pages, beautifully offset-printed, with
a cool color cover, loads more photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD reviews
and more fun than a brand new jar of wing nuts!

This issue features articles on Enoch Light, Jack Mudurian, the history of an
obscure record label - San Francisco/Barbary Coast Records, an exclusive
article on the experimental side of Ferrante and Teicher - written by Art
Ferrante, himself, The Del Rubio Triplets, guitar wizard, Billy Mure, a
photo-spread of BELLYDANCING LP Covers, Hasil Adkins and loads more!! It's
another 48 pages of musical mayhem and madness!

It all starts with a cool cover story about the 60's Discotheque Scene,
pioneered by Enoch Light. (We're talking about the Swinging Sixties' Disco
craze, not the coked-out Disco days of the Seventies!) In the mid-60s, Enoch
Light and a handful of others pumped out album after album of groovy dance
tunes, aimed at both the kids, and then the parents of the household.
Featuring some of the top session players of the day, these LPs are becoming
highly sought-after in record collecting circles, and Michael David Toth's
article explains why! A handy reference discography is included! (And YOU've
been passing those nerdy-looking LP's by for YEARS, haven't you!!?)

Next, we'll take a look at the short-lived singing career of Jack Mudurian,
an elderly resident of the Duplex Nursing Home, with an obsession for singing
virtually every song he knew, in rapid-fire stream-of-conciousness! David
Greenberger captured it all on tape, back in 1981, the recording was released
on CD last year, and Greenberger gives us the exclusive inside scoop of his
discovery of the songbird of the Rest Home set. The article is peppered with
many a "Jack-ism", offbeat pearls of wisdom and words of advice,
affectionately remembered by his friend, David Greenberger, who is regularly
heard on NPR's 'All Things Considered'.

We serve up a brief history of obscure record label, San Francisco Records,
later to become Barbary Coast Records. The oddball label released a wide
variety of unusual instrumental releases, from Ragtime Piano records, Stereo
Test Albums, and other oddities, which often included jug bands, calliopes,
and more - all presented with a bizarre and twisted sense of humor! Ted
Hering tells the whole story and if you're like us, you'll run out and grab a
few of these LPs the way we did, after reading this article!

Rich Wilhelm checks in with his article on the Grooviest Grandmas to ever don
a pair of white Go-Go boots, and belt out a Jim Morrison song in three-part
harmony! It's the Del Rubio Triplets, three leggy Hot-Pants-wearing,
folk-guitar-playing senior citizens with an armload of quirky versions of
modern pop songs, and a hell of a lot of nerve! The darlings of the L.A. and
San Francisco club scenes, these Groovy Grannies are knockouts, completely
charming and true ambassadors of Pop Music goodwill! They've even got their
own Web Site, making this terrific trio the next contenders for the Lounge
Music Hall of Fame!

Ferrante and Teicher's 'prepared piano' music is the subject of a new
article, written exclusively for us by Mr. Art Ferrante, himself! We're proud
as punch, here at COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE, to feature Mr. Ferrante's
article, detailing the secrets of exactly HOW they achieved the AMAZING
effects of their weirdest and in our opinion, most delightful music! If you
thought F&T's music was all muzak, and a complete waste of time, you are
WRONG! Check out a few of their first LPs for Columbia and ABC-Paramount to
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heard of Hasil Adkins. The fascinating, detailed story of this WILDMAN of
rock 'n roll is a highlight of the new issue of our magazine, and is
delivered in every gory detail by writer, Wilhelm Murg. We have exclusive
photos of "The Haze", and we think you'll find his story a great read!

Guitar Wizard, Billy Mure, is the subject of Jeff Chenault's latest article,
and he chronicles the life and recordings of this incredible Space Age jazz
guitarist. His music is just now being re-discovered, and the article
includes a detailed discography.

All this, and a whole lot more fun stuff than we dare mention, and you'll
find a very Cool Issue #5 of COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE. So get on
board! It's gonna be a cool ride throught the wild, wacky and sometimes tacky
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MSR/Film City
Date: 27 May 1997 13:58:51 -0400 (EDT)

At 05:48 PM 5/26/97 -0400, Derek Grime wrote:
>Speaking of MSR tunes I was lucky enough to score an original Rod Rogers
>(and his Swinging Strings) 45 on the weekend.
>The A side is a great and stupid track called "Twisting on the Moon".
>My question is:  I assumed these were very limited releases of a couple dozen
>each.  Did artists like Rod Rogers cut regular 45's as well as the usual
>song-poem numbers?
>This 45 is on the Film City label.


Hey Derek,
What you've got there is a gen-u-wine song/poem release.
Rod(d) worked for many song shark labels in his career, and Film City was one.
"The Hump Dance" is another of Rod's Film City releases.
You can check the American Song/Poem Music Archive at
<http://www.channel1.com/users/fxxm/labels/filmcity.htm>
for more info on Film City's releases and affiliated labels.

Good eyes.

Lou




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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Some nice weekend finds...
Date: 27 May 1997 19:29:34 -0400

Record-wise, this wasn't one of those "makes you glad to be alive" type
hauls, but I got some nice stuff I've been looking for, and a few surprises.
^_^

The Science of Mysticism--a ROSICRUICIAN recording on red vinyl! It's a long
talk on just what the title says. Crazy new-agey cover--the guy I bought
this from warned me to "take it with a grain of salt." Maybe he's an
ex-Rosicruician and had to be deprogrammed. ^_^ Just kidding. BTW, I
remember someone responding to my "old new age" posting about the
Rosicrucian museum--is it still open? What's it like? Whoever posted the
original note on it did talk about the place, but I accidently deleted the
note before I printed it out. HELP! : (

Billy James Hargis--Communist America--MUST IT BE? (scary companion LP to
the scary book)

The Coming Persecuation by David Wilkerson (kreepy Christian
prophecies--"nude dancing and seances in churches! X-rated movies on TV!"
This is even scarier than Billy James--I'm not sure I want it in my house)

Marlene Dietrich at the Cafe de Paris--Lovely cover (without a title), great
songs.

Living Brass--Mexican Shuffle (Alperty go-go sounds. I like this one a lot)

Mrs. Miller's Greatest Hits (the one, the only)

Lionel Hampton--Vibramatic (a Lionel Hampton disco single!!!? Truth is
stranger than fiction) ^_-

The Organ Happenings--Born Free (cool loungey versions of "Sunshine
Superman" and "Mellow Yellow"--on the POWER apple honey label--another Peter
Pan subsidiary, right?)

Wild Bill Davis--One More Time (great round the world tunes on a wild organ.
I like this one a lot)

Great TV Themes--Eddie Baxter at the Organ (I bought this one for "Peter
Gunn," "Mr. Lucky," and "Route 66.")

What a Way to Go!--Nelson Riddle soundtrack to Shirley MacLaine movie

Latin Mann--Afro to Bossa to Blues by Herbie Mann (I bought this just for
"Jungle Fantasy" but I love all of it! An added attraction is the "Latin
Jazz family tree" on the back. Candido, Chano Pozo, and Chino Pozo (plus
other notables) are mentioned, but no Sabu : (  )

Gunn...number one! --by Mancini, of course! (finally, a beautiful stereo
copy that has a cover)

High Time--by Mancini (never heard of this one--I looked it up in the
Leonard Maltin film guide and it turns out this is a comedy about Bing
Crosby going back to college. Henry's on the cover alone, though. The cover
is pretty generic, but the music is good).

The Many Faces of the Blues--various artists (Blues? Sounds like jazz to me!
Lots of jazz instros (18 tracks!) done by bigshots like Kai Winding (and Jai
Winding), Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, and many others, too many to list
here. This album looks old, but the label says it's from 1973. The label is
Savoy--didn't they do lots of jazz/blues reissues?)

Back at the Chicken Shack--the Incredible Jimmy Smith (Nice, but what I
really want is Jimmy Smith's "The Monster"--anyone have it? What's the cover
look like?)

Superfly--Curtis Mayfield

Goodbye, Columbus--orig. soundtrack by the Association (I didn't understand
this movie, but the music is OK)

You're a big boy now--orig. soundtrack by the Lovin' Spoonful (not as good
as I thought it would be--but "Peep-Show Percussion" is awesome!)

Cheganca--The Walter Wanderly Trio

Claudine--Colours (I wrestled this away from my record buyin' buddy as
revenge for his snatching two Barry Sisters LPs away from me a few weeks
ago. I know, it's a lousy tradeoff, but I felt better. He tried to cover up
his disappointment by pointing out how "yucky" Mrs. Williams/Longet looked
on cover and saying "What is that thing on the back cover? An old bathtub?"
I personally thought it was an old roller coaster cart. Any other list
members with ideas are encouraged to post what they think the "big brown tub
on the back cover of 'Colours'" is. Please.)

Get Together--Andy Williams (out of all the Andy Williams "now" Lps I've
bought, this one is the most far out. He's accompanied by some pseudo-hippie
band called "Loadstone" on a few tracks, so you get a double delight dose of
Andy and sitar! The Osmond brothers are also on hand, but Andy keeps them in
line (and bearable). "Good Morning Starshine" and "Get Together" are
incredible. If Claudine put Andy up to this (I can't imagine his "usual"
audience, in other words, my Grandmother enjoying it), then more power to
her. ^_^

Oops! I didn't mean to go on for this long!
Sorry to drag on, Jessica ^_^



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Some nice weekend finds...
Date: 27 May 1997 22:28:50 -0400 (EDT)


In a message dated 5/27/97 10:02:16 PM, you wrote:

<<Back at the Chicken Shack--the Incredible Jimmy Smith (Nice, but what I
really want is Jimmy Smith's "The Monster"--anyone have it? What's the cover
look like>>

I've got it, it's great. The cover looks like a color rorshach (sp?) ink
blot.


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From: Vik Trola <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Some nice weekend finds...
Date: 27 May 1997 22:25:50 -0500

>The Science of Mysticism--a ROSICRUICIAN recording on red vinyl!

this is actually a series (i have two of i believe three). it's been quite
a while since listening to them. i basically bought them because they were
spoken word religious albums on blood red vinyl. i seem to remember they
were slightly magick leaning in their mysticism...

great pate mom, but i gotta motor if i'm going to make the funeral,
Vik

Vik's Lounge
http://www.chaoskitty.com/t_chaos/lounge.html

Space Age Bachelor Pad Music
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From: Pea Hicks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rose + Croix...
Date: 28 May 1997 00:09:38 -0700

Vik Trola wrote:
>
> >The Science of Mysticism--a ROSICRUICIAN recording on red vinyl!
>
> this is actually a series (i have two of i believe three). it's been
> quite
> a while since listening to them. i basically bought them because they
> were
> spoken word religious albums on blood red vinyl. i seem to remember
> they
> were slightly magick leaning in their mysticism...

I think it's telling that Erik Satie, whom some people consider the
father of "new age" and "muzak" (it's arguable, at best), was a
Rosicrucian.
If all you've ever heard are the lame-ass Camerata versions of Satie,
you owe it to yourself to seek out some of his music. Most of the best
stuff is hard to come by on vinyl, though, so you'll have to flip for
CDs. Highly recommended:

-Parade (a *must* have!)
-Relache
-Vexations
-Embryons desseches
-Sports et divertissements
-Messe di Pauvres

....oh, just about anything, really!!!

pea
--
                        Pea Hicks
               "Memory is my drug of choice."
               <---Realm 'O' The Optigan--->
               http://www.pilot.com/optigan
               Who will be the next to brave
                   the *perils* of the
                    VIRTUAL OPTIGAN??!


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Rose + Croix...
Date: 28 May 1997 00:45:06 +0000

> I think it's telling that Erik Satie was a Rosicrucian.
=========================================


yeah but does he rhumba ?



paul moshay
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los angeles 78, calif.


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new cd/lp: svezia inferno e paradiso
Date: 28 May 1997 20:19:07 +0200

Piero Umiliani: "svezia inferno e paradiso"
(cd/2lp, right tempo/easy tempo, Italy)
    28 beautiful tracks: some bossa, some jazz, some plagiarism, lots
    of wordless vocals on this euro slease soundtrack.

        Johan
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend finds UK
Date: 27 May 1997 03:52:04 +0100


Some good finds at the Scope shop in Sutton, Surrey County:

1) The wonderful sound of Jorge Costa Pinto Orchestra
   (UK Fontana label 1970)
- is this the first mention in Exotica for a performer from
Portugal???  Good Europop, great sleeve (sulky blond in pink
jumpsuit and pink flowery headband)
2) Soul Symphony #2 - Raymond Lefevre et son grand orchestre
   (French Riviera label 1973)
- twelve classic cuts modernised a la Waldo de los Rios
3) Love Story - Mantovani  (double LP 24 tracks)
   (German Teldec/Decca 1971)
- his usual style which you either love (few of you) or
  hate (most of you)(!)
4) Somethin' else - Danny Davis & the Nashville Brass
   (US act, Australian pressing RCA 1971)
- this is WONDERFUL!!!  Six trumpets, two trombones,
banjo, bass and electric sitar!  Brass a la Alpert.
Anyone got anything else by these people please?

Hugh.



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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend finds UK
Date: 27 May 1997 03:52:06 +0100


Some good finds at the Scope shop in Sutton, Surrey County:

1) The wonderful sound of Jorge Costa Pinto Orchestra
   (UK Fontana label 1970)
- is this the first mention in Exotica for a performer from
Portugal???  Good Europop, great sleeve (sulky blond in pink
jumpsuit and pink flowery headband)
2) Soul Symphony #2 - Raymond Lefevre et son grand orchestre
   (French Riviera label 1973)
- twelve classic cuts modernised a la Waldo de los Rios
3) Love Story - Mantovani  (double LP 24 tracks)
   (German Teldec/Decca 1971)
- his usual style which you either love (few of you) or
  hate (most of you)(!)
4) Somethin' else - Danny Davis & the Nashville Brass
   (US act, Australian pressing RCA 1971)
- this is WONDERFUL!!!  Six trumpets, two trombones,
banjo, bass and electric sitar!  Brass a la Alpert.
Anyone got anything else by these people please?

Hugh.



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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hutch Davie
Date: 27 May 1997 04:40:49 +0100


Info wanted on Hutch Davie please, including a
definitive version of his name.  He was A&R man
on most of Santo & Johnny's albums on Canadian-
American, and different discs show him as
Hutch Davie
Ben Hutch Davie
Bon Hutch Davie

Did he do backings for other artists please? Did
he own Canadian-American, even?...

Thanks,
Hugh.

_still_ missing Laura (sigh..)



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From: [e-mail] (Jill Mingo)
Subject: (exotica) Nunchucks
Date: 28 May 1997 18:06:10 -0600

Howdy, all....

A friend of mine (mr. hush puppy from the Divine Sound System, Glasgow)
wants to know about a track he heard on a Smylon Nylon tape by the Nunchucks
called "Bruce Lee". Any ideas???? Please help.

Ta.

 Jill "Mingo-go"





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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ever hear of this? (Gershon Kingsley)
Date: 28 May 1997 22:40:33 -0400

What a Way to Dye (that's right DYE)--produced on the Caprolan/Allied
Chemical label. "A film on the history of colored dye." Music composed and
conducted by Gershon Kingsley (in '66, so this might be worth finding!).

Burgess Meredith narrates, BTW.

Just passing along some info, Jessica ^_^

PS--I recently found "Switched on Gershwin" by Gershon (hee hee!) and it's
great. Esp. his versions of "Summertime" and "It Ain't Necessarily So."
Start looking for it!



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From: [e-mail] (Peter Becker)
Subject: (exotica) Hello again!
Date: 29 May 1997 10:07:54 -0500

Hello again!
I've been away for a while.

I am now on the digest list, so I will be responding as appropriate, if a
bit late.
As I'm on a few lists, I had to switch to the digest as I was getting
75-100 emails a day.

Soooo....a few things to note on the label front.
Tipsy will have a new 12" single in stores by next week, hopefully.
It is a remix single of "Grossenhosen" and "Mr. Excitement" done by
Asphodel labelmates, WE.
This 12" may be a bit more *modern* for you exotica purists, but it's still
great fun!
Expect a drum and bass mix and a downtempo mix.
For the unitiated, drum and bass is also synonymous with the currently
touted "jungle" music.
Downtempo is similar to an ambient feel with slow, trippy beats.

We're happy with it.
also...MTV's Amp will be showcasing a NEW Tipsy video!!!

New Tipsy video Premiere! dir. by Steven Speer, Sat. May 31, 1am, "Space Golf"
sorry for the late time, nothin' I could do about *that* one.
however, its the very 1st video of the show. so get Tipsy with us.

NY djs!  I've flaked on you for a couple of weeks.  Its been busy here.
Expect me to get back on the ball by next week, I promise...

Also: any NYCers, email me privately about a reward I have to help me find
an aprtment.

Its good to be back!



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Peter Becker, Promotions: Retail,  DJ Pool

Asphodel Records, NYC
PO Box 51, Chelsea Station, NY NY 10113
 Phone # [phone]
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) who is Lainie Kazan?
Date: 29 May 1997 18:51:22 -0700 (PDT)

Well, the weekend is coming up and I may brave the throngs who are expected
in downtown Portland to return to one thrift store that two LPs in excellent
condition of a woman singer I had never heard or heard of before.

Both are on MGM.  The one touted as her debut was produced by Don Costa, so
I have a feeling it might be the torch/loungy type thing I am interested in.
The cover and the selections seem to reflect that, but I am not so sure
about the instrumentation.    The other one by Lainie Kazan looked more pop
and NOW.  Lainie herself is very cute and I wonder why I have never run
across her name before.

Anyone with any info on this singer before I go in search of this record?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Lainie Kazan?
Date: 29 May 1997 22:25:07 -0400 (EDT)

Lainie Kazan used to be on The Merv Griffin show a lot in the 60s. She was a
pretty good lounge and torch singer. If you have a chance to get any albums
by her, they'd be worth having. Another singer who used to be on Merv and
Mike Douglas' show was Jennie Smith. I think she was on Steve Allen too. Does
anyone remember a singer named, I think, Kay Stevens? She was blonde, kind of
Goldie Hawnish, and a pretty good entertainer on the afternoon shows also.
She was pretty funny, too. Remember Totie Fields? Geez, am I getting old or
what? Who was the comedienne who used to carry a phone in her purse and say,
"Hello, Ceil?" She was pretty hilarious.
Gloria


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From: Steve Sando <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Lainie Kazan?
Date: 29 May 1997 20:45:40 -0700

Lainie Kazan's biggest claim to fame was that she replaced Striesand in
Funny Girl on Broadway. She's very funny but seems to have spent much of
her career as an 'also-ran'. She's been in a lot of movies, most notably My
favorite Year with Peter O'Toole and the underrated Lust in the Dust with
Divine, where she sings South of my Border, North of my Garter.
* * *
Steve Sando, Coconut Grove Media
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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Lainie Kazan?
Date: 30 May 1997 00:54:42

On Thu, 29 May 1997 20:45:40 -0700,
[e-mail] wrote...
>Lainie Kazan's biggest claim to fame was that she replaced Striesand in
>Funny Girl on Broadway. She's very funny but seems to have spent much of
>her career as an 'also-ran'.

Isn't she also the spawn of Judy Garland and Elia Kazan, making her a
half-sister to Liza Minelli?


-Indy Rutks ([e-mail])

====================================================
I used to be "with it", but then they changed what
 "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't "it", and what's
 "it" seems weird and scary to me. - Abraham Simpson
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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re:  Who is Lainie Kazan?
Date: 29 May 1997 00:41:38 -0700

Lainie is the daughter of director Elia Kazan.  She started as a
Streisand wannabe, gained weight, and now plays Jewish mothers.  My
friends and I thought she was pretty hot when we saw her on Mike
Douglas, Merv, et al.

Brad


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Lainie Kazan?
Date: 30 May 1997 14:50:33 -0400 (EDT)

In a message dated 97-05-30 06:47:17 EDT, Mr. Lucky wrote:

<< Lainie Kazan's biggest claim to fame was that she replaced Striesand in
 Funny Girl on Broadway. She's very funny but seems to have spent much of
 her career as an 'also-ran'. She's been in a lot of movies, most notably My
 favorite Year with Peter O'Toole and the underrated Lust in the Dust with
 Divine, where she sings South of my Border, North of my Garter.
 *  >>
I've been waiting for Lainie's half-sis Barbra'a name to pop up on the list
so I'd have an excuse to mention her 1973  LP "Barbra Streisand and Other
Musical Instruments," a soundtrack to one of her TV specials.  I was
initially intrigued by the cover, which shows and lists over 100 musical
instruments from around the world (like many of the percussion LPs do), and
for a buck, what the hell !  Instruments include sitar, Moog, Arp, Mellotron,
bongos, orange juicers, Hammond B-3, musical saw, oud, aeolian
cristallophone, bagpipes, elephant horn, and even Barbra run thru an
Echoplex, heaven help us all. The exotic instruments usually appear briefly
in hodgepodge medleys of I Got Rhythm/Johnny One Note/One Note Samba and The
World is a Concerto/Make Your Own Kind of Music, and for the true believers
she throws in People, Second Hand Rose, and Dont Rain on My Parade. The
electronic stuff is used to depict loneliness in By Myself/Come Back to Me.
And she also sings words somebody wrote to piano practicing exercices, a
marginal connection to a recent list thread.

Clinton bed-post notch Babs also does a bit of middle-eastern wailing at one
point (roots music for her?) and the sitar section is interesting, but most
of it is pure unadulterated Barbra singing over a mish-mash of instruments
and arrangements under the tutelage of  musical director Jack Parnell,  with
a credit to  Larry(M*A*S*H) Gelbart for some soliloquy dialogue and liner
notes by Mort Goode (who also did the notes for my treasured Coral classic
Themes from Horror Movies!)

Now I've never been a Barbra fan, but if I can appreciate Yma I can
appreciate Barbra's voice too as a wonderful instrument. I was almost able to
listen to the LP all the way through in one sitting. It was worth the buck
for the curiosity value alone, and as many of you have said, there is still a
lot of strange stuff to discover out there, often in the least expected
places.

BTW, I saw the supposed world premiere of Paul Bartel's Lust in the Dust at
the Bridge Theater in San Francisco. Lainie was a hot zaftig mama on screen
(some pics pop up on usenet ocasionally), but Tab "Dorian Gray" Hunter looked
good in person three rows in front of me.  Divine should have sung Donkey
Serenade to cap the funniest scene in the movie.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More Mexican Horror Music
Date: 30 May 1997 18:59:07 -0400

> Subject: (exotica) Santo Soundtrack
> Date: Wednesday, May 14, 1997 12:13 PM
>
> "Santo y Blue Demon Contra los Monstruos"(1969) featured a fairly interesting
> soundtrack. The credits listed "Director Musical: Gustavo Cesar Carreon"

Who also appears in the credits of "The Brainiac" (aka "El Baron del Terror"
1961), this time with his last name spelled "Carrion". Although, as this was
the English language version, I'm thinking that a U.S. titler "corrected" the
spelling of his name (kind of cool name for a horror soundtrack composer,
though). In this film he has an orchestra at his disposal, but the results
aren't as unique as in the above Santo movie. Much of this one sounds like an
early 40's Hollywood Poverty Row horror flick. But other passages are rather
modern & abstract, creating some nicely eerie effects. Does anyone know more
about him? I'll have to keep a closer eye on these Mexi-horror credits.

Somewhat related to the "sampling ethics" thread that passed through here
recently is this item from the scene reports section in the latest issue of
Juxtapoz:

"The Outsider Art Fair was more exploitative than ever this year. Pano pieces
(handkerchiefs intricately detailed with ballpoint pen drawings originally
created by Chicano inmates to trade for cigarettes within prison walls) were
being sold for $275.00 with no credit given to the original artists. Blood
money runs thick."

(note: there should be a "~" over the "n" in "Pano", but I couldn't put it
there -- duh)

m.ace
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) who is Lainie Kazan?
Date: 31 May 1997 10:58:13 -0400 (EDT)

As far as I am concerned, Lainie's biggest claim to fame was at least one
Playboy appearance which was a highlight of my teenage years. I think the
issue is still in my parent's basement.


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From: "kevin king" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) anne francis
Date: 31 May 1997 13:29:01 -0500

While on the topic of mystery women:

What about Anne Francis, with that distinguishing beauty mark?  I've
been listening to the Honey West soundtrack which is great... (scan
plus sample of this and a few new others at
http://www.radix.net/~xanadu/spyjazz/spyjazz.html ) and have been
wondering what other appearances Frances has made.  I'm fairly
certain she was on a number of tv shows in the 60's, but only
remember her as that mannequin come-to-life in my nomination for the
creepiest Twilight Zone episode.  That one used to give me
nightmares.

kevin king
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From: Steve Sando <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) anne francis
Date: 31 May 1997 11:05:16 -0700


>While on the topic of mystery women:
>
>What about Anne Francis, with that distinguishing beauty mark?

Back to Streisand, Francis played her gal pal in the film version of Funny
Girl but apparently La Streisand had most of her scenes cut.

I saw Anne on an infomercial for beauty products not too long ago and she
looked very well preserved!

I always thought there was some connection to Francis and the Barbie doll
but I might be making this up.
* * *
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PO Box 78146, San Francisco, CA 94107
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) anne francis
Date: 31 May 1997 14:17:54 -0400

> From: kevin king <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (exotica) anne francis
> Date: Saturday, May 31, 1997 2:29 PM
>
> While on the topic of mystery women:
>
> What about Anne Francis, with that distinguishing beauty mark?  I've
> been listening to the Honey West soundtrack which is great
>
> wondering what other appearances Frances has made.

Forbidden Planet!!!

Complete with your standard 1950's skinnydippin' scene. And of course the
killer score by Louis & Bebe Barron.

m.ace
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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) William Burroughs
Date: 31 May 1997 11:51:36 -0700

Just scored "Call Me Burroughs on ESP

It's all spoken word by the man with excerpts from Naked Lunch and Nova
Express

Liner notes in both english and french by Emmett Williams and Jean Jacques
Lebel respectively.  Dated 1965

Pretty fucked up brilliance and a bit of swearing.  I'd love to play this
on my show so listen for it if you listen;)
Who knows, maybe I'll get kicked off the air for playing a BIG LOUD
MOTHERFUCKER
over the airwaves

Great great stuff indeed.  Is this on CD ?  Does anyone know ?

Jack


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E (small world dept.)
Date: 31 May 1997 15:18:08 -0400

> From: Vernon Stoltz <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (exotica) M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E
> Date: Sunday, May 18, 1997 10:51 PM
>
>     One very common thrift store record is Disney's "It's a Small World" (I
> have a 1964 version with a booklet inside).  My first reaction?  What a
> highly obnoxious record, with it's endless repetition of that exceedingly
> cheerful melody over the entire two sides of the record.
>     But with a closer look, there are some perhaps classic 'exotica' moments
> on the record, particularly on side 2.  Here we find Middle Eastern

I finally got around to digging that very edition of the record out of the old
kiddie record stash. I do agree -- Side 2 is the more 'exotic' one. The
narration definitely adds to the fun. Surprisingly, I didn't find the album all
that painful, which maybe scares me more (for pain, personally, there's nothing
like a Mitch Miller album). For another branch of exotica, an instrumental
passage in the "big finish" section sounds very Rat Pack/Las Vegas to me (would
have been fun to see the mechano-puppets for a Las Vegas section). Considering
that the "Small World" ride/exhibit was created for the 1964 N.Y. World's Fair,
I have to wonder what the international attendees thought of the sometimes
bizarre portrayals of themselves.

Also in the stash, I discovered a "Small World" 45:

OFFICIAL SOUVENIR RECORD
from Walt Disney's
"IT'S A SMALL WORLD"
at the New York World's Fair

It's an edit of material from the album in a cardboard mailer / picture sleeve.
I think it came from a relative who went to the fair. Strangely, the single is
more painful than the full-length album.

It's Disney's World Overall,

m.ace
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) William Burroughs
Date: 31 May 1997 15:25:27 -0400

> From: J. Diamond <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) William Burroughs
> Date: Saturday, May 31, 1997 2:51 PM
>
> Just scored "Call Me Burroughs on ESP
> Great great stuff indeed.  Is this on CD ?  Does anyone know ?

Yes. Rhino. R2 71848.

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From: Jessica Cameron <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sun Ra as Dan and Dale!!!! (???)
Date: 31 May 1997 18:16:49 -0400

I don't know how many list members read the "for sale" vinyl newsgroup, but
recently someone was selling a Dan and Dale Play "Batman" (or some sim.
title) LP and claiming that it was actually done by Sun Ra--my reaction was
"yeah, and I've got some beachfront property..." and some follow-ups like
"get out!" and "really?" were posted, but today, this one showed up.....


>I don't think it is kosher. In my opinion the Sun Ra -Batman appearance is
>on  an LP of Neal Hefti arrangements played by a small group, including the
>the tune Mr Freeze", because it includes some weird organ playing that
sounds very
>Ra (sorry I don't have the proper title or catalog number at my fingertips,
I think it's on RCA). I don't know of any of >the numberous Batman
recordings being confirmed by Ra or any noteworthy scholar as "the one" but
from what >Ra and others have said I'm sure it was only one record, so it
comes down to a question of
>which one.


I kind of find this hard to believe, too, but truth is weirder than fiction,
right? Any ideas?

Thanks for the space, Jessica ^_^



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Subject: (exotica) Werner, Doris and Russ
Date: 31 May 1997 19:27:11 -0700 (PDT)

I am getting really picky with my spending on records now as my latest round
of purchases has filled up my tiny apartment.  Still, can't pass up a good buy.

So, today I found another Werner Muller London Phase 4 recording (my third)
and like this one best!  It is called Hawaiian Swing and I highly recommend it.

I also found several 78 albums in near perfect condition.  They looked they
never made it out of the store: A Stan Kenton Progressive Jazz set (with a
heavy dose of Pete Rugolo), a Red Norvo set (the famous vibist) and "Marimba
Classics by Doris Stockton, Marimba with Russ Case and His Orchestra."

How wonderful it was to play an undamaged and hardly played (if played at
all)78 on a good player with a new 78 stylus!  I've been biased all these
years against 78s when the real problem was how well they were damaged!
Good 78's played properly sound wonderful!

In any case, Doris's selections were ALMOST all classical.  As one marimbist
(Leigh Stevens) told me in an interview "If J.S. Bach were alive today, he'd
write for the marimba."  However, one of the pieces would probably not have
come from Mr. Bach's hand: Tico Tico.  With Mr. Case's approach and Ms.
Stockton's playing, this performance comes off nicely.

Couldn't get to the one store to grab those Lainie Kazan LPs.  I'll have to
wait until next week...if they still are there.  THEN, I'll have to find the
Playboy magazine that Ms. Kazan was featured in, not to mention rent Lust in
the Dust.

Thanks for all the information about Ms. Kazan.  Seems I learn about actors
and actresses AFTER I learn about them through their recordings.  For a
while I thought Lizabeth Scott was a primarilly a singer from her RCA LP (as
far as I know, she only had one: "Lizabeth"  and it probably was only in
mono).  Only after I did a web search did I learn she was, at one point, a
Hollywood star.  She never completely made it, and her album was on the
trailing end of her career (about the time she starred in an Elvis Presley
flick).  I like the album and now want to see some of her film noir
classics.  I wonder how many other actresses I will be introduced to in this
fashion.

Probably many.  If an actress or actor hasn't recorded an album, she wanted
to. Likewise, singers usually find themself in at least one movie (although
we often wish they had stayed off the celluloid!).  The world of popular
culture does not have strict boundaries, thank you.

Byron Caloz




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From: "J. Diamond" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Stan Kenton-Progressive Jazz
Date: 31 May 1997 21:41:29 -0700

>I also found several 78 albums in near perfect condition.  They looked they
>never made it out of the store: A Stan Kenton Progressive Jazz set (with a
>heavy dose of Pete Rugolo),

That there Progressive Jazz rekkid o' Kenton's is 1 damn cool rekkid.
Seek out "This Is My Theme".  It is a spoken word beatnik poetry piece with
June Christy and features Jack Costanzo on bongos!

Predates Kerouac by 12 years!

You will not be dissapointed and just may have a new love of all time!

Yeah, Rugolo was Kenton's chief arranger for a number of years and that's
Esquivel's greatest love in as far as his biggest influence for the way
that Pete arranged the trumpets for the Kenton Orchestra.

Kenton was a genius in a number ways, the title for that record being 1 of
them which by the way was released in 1947.

That orchestra another by the way was to become almost the entire west
coast jazz scene in Los Angeles of the 1950's after Kenton split the west
coast and almost the entire orchestra stayed.

Great shit indeed!

Jack


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