ftp.xmission.com/2014.06.ftp.xmission.com.tar/ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/exotica/archive/exotica.200003

Internet Message Format | 2000-03-31 | 1MB

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new Tiki News
Date: 01 Mar 2000 00:10:44 -0800


I am working on a new issue of Tiki News

if you'd like to advertise please contact me immediately

Otto

[e-mail]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Exotica Kindergarten
Date: 01 Mar 2000 06:59:37


I will chime in on this stream:  we have 7 year-old twin boys, Sam and Ben,
and a 3 year-old girl, Alice.  The boys have already been peer-group
programmed and can't stand Dad's taste in music--it's Back Street Boys and
N'Sync for them, with an occasional dip into a disco sampler.  Alice likes
everything, sings almost everything.  Right now her favorite to sing is
"The Brady Bunch Theme."

Brad (AKA "Mr. Record Brain" by the boys)


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) ExotiKidü
Date: 01 Mar 2000 10:50:52 -0800 (PST)


http://www.lobue-art.com/Mirahome.html

Nice pictures Keith and she looks just like you.  Watch out though for spouses that
hate your music.  Its best to get them to like it before its too late or at least
get yourself a private listening area.  In my last house I had a private room for
listening.  I had 2 Klipsch Cornwall speakers mounted near the cealing.

Also your site is at the address above.

Easy listening in the Big easy
Chuck
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Carol Channing
Date: 01 Mar 2000 13:53:10 -0500


What ever happened to Carol Channing?  I have only one record of here =
and
have never seen any others.

Pardon the Hollywood Squares flashbacks.

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=
=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New additions and updates to site
Date: 01 Mar 2000 11:50:15 -0800


Updates and new additions as of 2/18:

--A&M import LP (German) back cover difference pictured for "When It Was
Done"--Page 4.

--3 More Isaura Garcia Odeon Brasil LPs which WW plays on pictured and
listed on Page 1.  Also "Documento Inedito" LP cover image containing
Isaura interview (of how she met Walter) added to Page 6.

--Brazilian release of WW's "The Return of the Original" LP found and
listed--Page 4

--Confirmation from Brazil that Walter Wanderley is not the "Wanderley"
[single name] pianist on The Milton Banana Trio LPs of the early to
mid-1960s.  Subsequent removal of all Milton Banana Trio images formerly
on the WW site, along with text that credited Walter Wanderley for
playing on these LPs.

--New "Who Is Walter Menderley???" section on Page 3 added after a CD
with a different title but containing the same track list as WW's
"Brazil's Greatest Hits" was found in the U.S. but made in Mexico!  Could
this be one of WW's many Mexican imitators or just a bootleg?  The new
addition gives the definitive answer!

--Mirror WW Site added to Xoom.com URL due to the frequent downtime of
Freeservers.  The site now exists in both locations in its entirety.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Carol Channing
Date: 01 Mar 2000 15:08:25 -0500


what a freak of nature she is/was?
she scares me and i love her for it.
i find her frighteningly appealing in the film SKIDOO, a pro LSD movie with
Jackie Gleason, Carol, John Philip Law and GROUCHO MARX (his last film)
among many others.
it is the only record i own with her on it, singing the title track.
the only good "bad" song on it.

bump out



>What ever happened to Carol Channing?  I have only one record of here and
>have never seen any others.
>
>Pardon the Hollywood Squares flashbacks.

********************************
Bump
Universal DJ
Defective Records
[e-mail]
http://www.defectiverecords.com
"Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Carol Channing
Date: 01 Mar 2000 15:23:38 -0600




"Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" wrote:
>
> What ever happened to Carol Channing?  I have only one record of here and
> have never seen any others.
>
> Pardon the Hollywood Squares flashbacks.

I can't answer that, recording-wise, but there is an
interview with her (conducted by Dame Darcy) in the
current issue of _Index_.  It's pretty amusing -
DD keeps asking her about "Skidoo", saying that it's
popular with young folks, much to the bafflement of CC.

--

Kerry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Portugese
Date: 01 Mar 2000 13:30:57 -0800 (PST)


Does anyone here know Portugese?

I'm doing a mix CD and I thought it'd be cool to
translate the liner notes and song titles into
Portugese.  I don't know why, I just did.

Anyone up for that?

And, no, www.babelfish.com ain't gonna cut it.

Let me know if you are interested.

Peter
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mark Renwick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Soundproof vs. Soundblast
Date: 01 Mar 2000 21:02:36 -0500


> Mono Soundblast (promo) (WP 6041) and stereo Soundproof (WST 15011) list
> these tracks:
>
> Peg-leg Meringue
> Brazil
> Poinciana
> Mama yo Quero
> Orchids in the Moonlight
> Cumana
> Tico-Tico
> Frenesi
> Mexican Hat Dance
> Siboney
> Loose Ends Meringue
> La Cucaracha
>
And to make matters more interesting, the Sonotape
Corporation (affiliated with Westminster Record) released a
stereo reel-to-reel tape called "Latin American Adventure"
containing most of the tracks on stereo "Soundproof."

--Mark Renwick
  Jacksonville, Florida, USA
  [e-mail]
  http://home.att.net/~tibia




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) U.S./English vers. of "Chega de Saudade" book
Date: 01 Mar 2000 21:26:42 -0800


For those who may be interested:  I just got word today that Ruy Castro's
History of the Bossa Nova book "Chega de Saudade" will be published in
the U.S. and in English within the next few months.  This is great news
for someone like myself who doesn't read Portugese and has had to rely on
bits and pieces of the book being translated by others (I have enjoyed
the photos, though)!

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Recent finds / questions
Date: 02 Mar 2000 11:34:10 +0000


I just got a couple of records of interest to the list:

Seven Golden Men soundtrack - Armando Travajoli - only $4 on Ebay and mint,
very jazzy and lots of wordless vocals including some frantic ba ba da
daas. Slightly too noodling for my liking but nice anyway.

Area Code 615 - A trip in the Country. Whats this? Acid country rock with
tom toms? Or country funk? Harmonica and good grooves including Stone Fox
Chase - the theme to The Old Grey Whistle Test (UK relevance only).
Although I have a 12" somewhere of Stone Fox Chase which is a much better
version and comes with a Lenny Dee (or is it Frankie Bones?) mix on the
other side.

And I just got Lee Hazelwood's 13 (my first taste of Lee). I really like
the arrangements but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be my cup of tea in other
circumstances. Doris' LP Did You Give the World Some Love Today Baby is
similar - funky groovers with poppy vocals and nice horns.


And whoever mentioned that the Duke of Burlington was a ripoff. Was it of
the Earl of Westminster? And the name of the track please?

Thanks



Charlie
[e-mail]


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tradelist up n running....
Date: 03 Mar 2000 00:07:10 +1100


Hi all!

Just wanted to drop my tradelist of recordings on ya.  If any of you have
lists of stuff you'd like to trade on CDR, email it to me and we'll dance!

http://www.lobue-art.com/trade.html

The list is long but incomplete, and will grow bigger, more unwieldy,
nightmarishly diverse, crawling into your homes to snuff your Michael
Boloton recordings from your boomboxes!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) VAT for Net music?
Date: 02 Mar 2000 09:36:18 -0500


=46rom a credible e-newsletter I get. Mimi

EUROPE TO TAX SOME INTERNET TRANSACTIONS
The European Commission in Brussels plans to impose sales taxes on music and
software delivered over the Internet, requiring companies to collect a
"value-added" tax on such products. European merchants are hoping to end
what they consider an unfair advantage enjoyed by their American
competitors. The head of the Electronic Forum in Cologne, Germany, says:
"Without any changes, American companies would unquestionably have an unfair
advantage. This is the right direction, toward a global framework for
electronic commerce." (New York Times 2 Mar 2000)
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/03/biztech/articles/02tax.html




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [OBITS] Mary Bodne,Dennis Danell, Baron Enrico di Portanova,George Duning,Louis Pelletier,Otello Martelli,
Date: 02 Mar 2000 10:43:18 -0500


    NEW YORK (AP) -- Mary Bodne, an owner of New York's Algonquin
Hotel for 41 years, died Monday. She was 93.
    Bodne lived at the elegant hotel, the literary hangout of the
Jazz age, from 1946 until her death.
    Along with her husband, Ben, she purchased the 200-room hotel in
1946 for about $1 million from Frank Case, who had catered to
writers and editors including Dorothy Parker, Robert Benchley,
Franklin O, Adams, Edna Ferber and Alexander Woollcott.
    The Bodnes owned the hotel until 1987, when it was sold to the
Aoki Corp. A decade later, it was sold to the Camberley Hotel
Company. Both sales brought renovations, including the installation
of self-service elevators in 1991.
    Bodne, whose family had immigrated to South Carolina from
Ukraine when she was a child, spent most afternoons greeting
regular guests from an armchair in the lobby of the French
Renaissance style hotel built in 1902. Ben Bodne died in 1992.

                           *Dennis Danell
    NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Dennis Danell, a guitarist for the
punk rock band Social Distortion, died Tuesday of an apparent brain
aneurysm. He was 38.
    Danell teamed with frontman Mike Ness who formed Social
Distortion in Orange County, Calif., in 1979. The band has been on
hiatus since it released its live album, ``Live at the Roxy,'' in
1998. Ness composed most of the band's songs, and Danell co-wrote
with him periodically.
    Danell and the group's bassist also played in their own band,
Fuel, in 1994 while Ness was working on material for a new album
for Social Distortion.
    Danell's discs with Social Distortion include: ``Mainliner''
(1981); ``Mommy's Little Monster'' (1982); ``Prison Bound'' (1985);
``Social Distortion'' (1990); ``Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell''
(1992); ``White Light, White Heat, White Trash'' (1996); and ``Live
at the Roxy'' (1998).
    Social Distortion appeared in the 1983 movie ``Another State of
Mind,'' which documented the group's low-budget cross-country tour.

                      *Baron Enrico di Portanova
    HOUSTON (AP) -- Baron Enrico di Portanova, a jet-setter and
grandson of Texas oil magnate Hugh Roy Cullen, died Monday of
throat cancer. He was 66.
    Di Portanova's life included high-profile legal wrangling over
the immense Cullen family estate, elaborate parties attended by the
rich and famous, and lavish homes in Acapulco, Italy and Houston.
    By the mid-1980s, di Portanova was said to have a net worth of
more than $50 million.
    He and his wife, Alessandra di Portanova, regularly entertained
such guests as Sylvester Stallone, Barbara Walters, Henry Kissinger
and Beverly Sills. Their Acapulco mansion served as a backdrop for
the James Bond movie ``License to Kill.''

                           *George Duning
    SAN DIEGO (AP) -- George Duning, whose musical scores for movies
such as ``Picnic'' and ``From Here to Eternity'' earned him Academy
Award nominations, died Tuesday of heart disease. He was 92.
    Duning was hired in the 1930s as musical director of the NBC
radio show ``Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge.''
    When he returned from the Navy after World War II, he joined
Columbia Pictures, where he scored the movies ``Let No Man Write My
Epitaph,'' ``My Sister Eileen,'' ``Houseboat,'' ``That Touch of
Mink'' and ``Bell, Book and Candle.''
    He also wrote the music for such television series as ``The Big
Valley'' and ``Naked City.''
======
>From Variety:

Louis Pelletier

Screenwriter Louis Pelletier, who wrote such Disney family films as ôHorse
in the Gray Flannel Suitö as well as TV shows and more than 500 episodes of
the radio show ôThe FBI in Peace and War,ö died Feb. 11 in his sleep at his
home near Santa Monica. He was 93.

Pelletier wrote television shows for Disney and screenplays for the films
ôBig Red,ö ôThose Calloways,ö ôFollow Me Boysö and ôSmith.ö

While in the U.S. Army during World War II, he met radio writer Jack Finke
and the two spent their off-duty hours writing scripts for CBS. They hit
paydirt with ôThe FBI in Peace and War,ö adapted from the book of that title
by Frederick L. Collins.

Pelletier and Finke wrote the show for more than 10 years, contributing more
than 500 scripts. The program ran from 1944 until 1958, dramatizing cases as
seen through criminalsÆ eyes, with field agent Adam Sheppard (voiced by
actor Martin Blaine) closing in for the arrests.

Pelletier is survived by his wife, Mary; a daughter from an earlier
marriage; two granddaughters and three great-grandchildren.
----
>From the Guardian --

Otello Martelli, cinematographer, born May 19 1903; died February 20 2000

Master of cinematography behind great Italian movies

John Francis Lane
Tuesday February 29, 2000

One of the great craftsmen of Italian cinematography, Otello Martelli, who
has died aged 96, photographed some of the most famous postwar films, from
Rossellini's Paisα to De Santis's Bitter Rice. He worked on seven Fellini
films, most notably La Strada and La Dolce Vita.
Born in Rome, he became an assistant cameraman at 14, and worked on silent
films. He was signed up as a cameraman by the state newsreel company
Istituto Luce, and in 1928 was sent to film the tragic airship expedition to
the North Pole by Umberto Nobile. After working as assistant cameraman, his
first important credit was in 1934, for Alessandro Blasetti's Vecchia
Guardia (Old Guard), a blatantly fascist film which, however, was "saved"
for its plastic values even by leftwing critics of post-fascist Italy.

After the war, Martelli was chosen by Rossellini to join him on the
adventurous journey up the Italian peninsula that resulted in Paisα. His
experience as a newsreel cameraman helped to give the film a feeling of
authenticity in this reconstruction of the struggles for the liberation from
the Nazi-Fascists, even in sequences that were not always filmed on the real
locations (such as the opening episode in Sicily).

During the shooting in Florence, Martelli was a first-person witness to the
debut of the future director with whom he would later work, Federico
Fellini, who was then Rossellini's assistant and co-scriptwriter. One day,
Rossellini was sick, and Fellini was instructed to shoot the scene in a
country lane, where a wine cart trundles by under fire from snipers. "Sor
Otello", as Martelli was known (Sor being a respectful Roman term of
address), had planned to shoot the scene from as high an angle as possible,
but the brazen young assistant gave orders for the action to be filmed from
ground level, which Martelli contemptuously called "a mouse's point of
view". Fellini got his way, and was congratulated warmly by Rossellini when
the rushes were seen.

Martelli photographed two of Rossellini's most famous films, the equally
adventurous Stromboli, with Ingrid Bergman, and the film that Franτois
Truffaut once described as "the most beautiful film ever seen", Francis,
God's Juggler - its exquisite visual aspect being very much to the credit of
the cinematographer.

When, in 1950, Alberto Lattuada and Federico Fellini decided to produce,
write and co-direct a film about Italian provincial music-halls, Luci del
varietα (Variety Lights), it was Fellini who suggested Martelli as
cinematographer. And three years later, Fellini chose him to photograph his
second feature, I Vitelloni. The two men continued to bicker affectionately,
but when the first choice for cinematographer of La Strada had to pull out,
it was Sor Otello who took over - and the world was to acclaim him as well
as the director.

He worked again with Fellini on Il Bidone (1955), and, though uncredited,
took over from Aldo Tonti to finish Le Notti di Cabiria in 1956. With Tonti,
he went round the world scouting locations for RenΘ Clement's The Sea Wall
(1958), for which, in the end, he, rather than Tonti, was cinema- tographer.

He photographed many of the great cinematic beauties of those years, among
them Silvana Mangano, Sophia Loren and Melina Mercouri, but Martelli himself
said that the most photogenic of all was Anita Ekberg, immortalised by
Fellini (with Martelli's help) in La Dolce Vita. Martelli's contribution to
this film was his most creative achievement in later life. In spite of
continuing disagreements with Fellini over camera angles, there was great
mutual respect.

Martelli maintained that "it was not true that Federico knew nothing about
camera technique. He just had his own ideas. For example, he wanted to use a
lens for panoramic shots which is normally used only for close-ups. I told
him there was a risk of flickering, but he said it didn't matter. He was
absolutely right."

But after Fellini's episode of Boccaccio '70 (1962), The Temptations Of Dr
Antonio, the director said he was tired of hearing Sor Otello continuously
complain, "It can't be done." For the film 8, he entrusted the
cinematography to a new emerging master of lighting, Gianni Di Venanzo. But
Di Venanzo, like many other emerging cinematographers, admitted that Sor
Otello had been their maestro. The chore which induced Martelli into
retirement was working on one of the episodes of The Three Faces (1965), the
film directed by Antonioni and others which producer Dino De Laurentiis had
hoped would launch the then Empress Soraya of Iran as an actress.

He is survived by two daughters and a son, Luigi, who is a television
director.
---
>From the L.A. Times --

Joseph V. Perry; Played Mobsters on TV

     Joseph V. Perry, 69, character actor best known for playing
mobsters in such series as "Barney Miller" and "Night Court." A gifted
comic and master of dialects, Perry received the 1949 Glenn Ford Award
at Santa Monica High School and a UCLA Best Actor award in 1952. The
actor worked steadily in such films as the 1965 epic "The Greatest Story
Ever Told" and Don Knotts' 1968 "The Shakiest Gun in the West." Perry
remained in demand over four decades for television roles.

In addition to his colorful mobsters on police and detective series that
included "Quincy," Perry had roles in the series "Outer Limits," "The
Monkees," "MASH," "Cheers" and "Seinfeld." Most recently, he was cast in
the recurring role of Nemo in the popular "Everybody Loves Raymond."
Perry was also memorable in television commercials including portraying
a rotund baseball player mimicking swimsuit model poses for Slim-Fast
diet products. On Feb. 23 in Burbank.
-------------
>From the Guardian --

Ross Russell

At one time or another Charlie Parker's record producer, manager and
biographer

by Ronald Atkins
Thursday March 2, 2000

During a crucial period in the late 1940s, the author and jazz critic Ross
Russell, who has died aged 90, produced many of Charlie Parker's finest
recordings, and issued them on his own Dial label. He briefly became
Parker's manager and, after his death, wrote the definitive Parker
biography.
Born and raised in Los Angeles, Russell had two spells at the University of
California, earning money in between by delivering telegrams. He became
interested in jazz and collected records avidly. In the 1930s he spent time
with a black swing band, experiencing the way such bands were treated on
nationwide tours.

He became involved with the contemporary jazz scene in 1945, after wartime
service as a merchant navy radio officer. Having saved some of his wages, he
used them to open the Tempo Music Shop in Hollywood Boulevard, selling jazz
records at a time when the scene was splitting between traditionalists and
the supporters of a new style, bebop. The beboppers soon took over the
store - driving the opposition to the rival shop across town - and more than
justified Russell's initial gamble in ordering, unheard, the latest New York
78s - the first consignment sold out in hours.

The alto saxophonist Charlie Parker came to Los Angeles in 1946 with Dizzy
Gillespie and hung around after the band returned to New York, finding work
in a club. By now a convert to Parker's genius, Russell not only agreed to
record him for Dial, but relocated the label to New York shortly after
Parker returned there.

Once a budding author, whose work included detective stories that were
published in the same magazines as Raymond Chandler's early efforts - he
knew Chandler and wrote an unpublished biography of him - Russell wrote
about bebop for the Record Changer magazine and later, in 1961, published a
picaresque novel, The Sound, whose main character is based on Parker.

Researching Parker's origins in Kansas City, Russell produced his Jazz Style
In Kansas City And The South West in 1971, followed in 1973 by the Parker
biography, Bird Lives, the essential work about a man whose musical genius
and disorganised lifestyle turned him into a 20th-century icon.

Writing occasional articles and running courses on African-American studies
at the University of California and Palomar college, Russell kept control of
the Dial catalogue, which was released most notably on the British Spotlite
label, to whom he eventually sold the rights in 1990. For the past 20 years
he was living in mobile homes, most recently in Palm Springs, though he
often contemplated leaving the US. Described by a friend as paranoid about
money, he moved an account estimated at $150,000 around offshore banks
before settling on Austria, from which he would draw enough to finance his
many European trips.

He often came to Britain, notably in 1994 when he attended the September
auction at Christie's of Parker's saxophone. A few weeks earlier, he had
given a recital of Parker's Dial recordings to a meeting of the
International Association of Jazz Record Collectors held in London's
Docklands. White-haired and sounding a bit like the older James Stewart, he
spoke about such controversial events as Parker recording Lover Man while
suffering from acute alcoholism and malnutrition - Parker announced he could
get through the session provided someone gave him a handful of benzedrine
tablets.

Russell had often been accused of cashing in by releasing everything Parker
recorded for Dial, including several rejected versions. He told us that
other musicians pressed him to do this because they wanted to hear as much
Parker as possible.

He did not think much of Miles Davis, the trumpeter on most of the Dial
records, and believed that jazz ended with the death of Parker. Russell had
nearly finished writing a book on bebop when he died. The only music he was
then listening to was opera, preferably in Vienna.

He was married four times and is survived by twins - a son and daughter.
---------
Haza family silence has hurt anti-AIDS fight
                    By Judy Siegel

 JERUSALEM (February 29) - The refusal by Ofra Haza's
family to
 reveal that she was infected with HIV "magnified the
stigma of AIDS and
took us back 20 years by demonizing the disease," said
Prof. Zvi
Bentwich, head of the AIDS clinic at Kaplan Hospital
in Rehovot and an
 internationally known authority on the disease.

 Bentwich was abroad when the 41-year-old singer was
suddenly brought
 to Sheba Hospital at Tel Hashomer with unpublicized
medical problems.
 Her bodily systems, including her kidneys and lungs,
quickly collapsed,
 and she died 13 days after admission.

 The hospital, by order of the family, said she had
pneumonia as a
 complication of the flu, but it never revealed she was
infected with the
 AIDS virus.

 Only yesterday, Ha'aretz broke the silence by Israeli
papers that honored
 the family's request and reported that Haza "died of
AIDS," but without
quoting any official source in the hospital or the
Health Ministry.

Bentwich said he regretted the fact that the Haza
family decided to act as it
did, keeping secret the cause of her death. "It's a
shame, although I could
understand them," he said. But he added that he hoped
"the tumult created
by the revelation of AIDS will somewhat balance out
the damage.
However, I don't know if this will be effective in
clearing the air about
 AIDS," which is now recognized as a chronic disease
that can infect
 anyone but can be kept under control with a cocktail
of drugs.

Bentwich said he did not know details of Haza's case,
but said that flu
 could be fatal in an HIV carrier who was not receiving
proper treatment
and whose immune system was compromised.

"It could be that she didn't take the anti-HIV drug
cocktail at all; or she
may have received it but didn't like the regimen or
the virus showed
resistance to the drugs. Or she may have gotten it,
but it wasn't enough to
 strengthen her immune system," Bentwich said.

The Health Ministry had its "hands tied," he said,
because it was not
allowed by the Patients' Rights Law to allow doctors
to reveal the disease
against her or her family's will.

However, he did not justify claims in some papers that
Sheba staffers who
 treated her were angry because they hadn't been told
Haza had HIV.
"Every medical worker is trained to regard every
patient as potentially
having AIDS and required to protect himself," he said.

 Meanwhile, Haza's former manager Bezalel Aloni, who
had repeatedly
suggested asking Haza's family, and particularly her
husband, about the
 cause of her death, met Sunday night with Dan Region
police chief
Lt.-Cmdr. David Kraoza and said his life had been
threatened after he
 made the comments.
Police are checking into his claims.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) allmusic essays
Date: 02 Mar 2000 12:03:51 -0500


Building a Space Age Pop Collection by Richie Unterberger
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=J237

Space Age Pop by Richie Unterberger
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=J243
------
About the Author
Unterberger covered the greatest cult rock acts of all time for Unknown Legends of Rock (Miller Freeman, 1998) and is Senior Editor of the All Music guides. For Rough Guides, he is the author of the The Mini Rough Guide to Seattle, and contributor to The Rough Guide to Rock and The Rough Guide to San Francisco. He is also
the author of The Rough Guide to Music USA, 1st edition.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Family Picture
Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:01:27 EST


Bandwagon time also.

Here is a link to my recent family portrait! Take a look!  I guarantee you
will not be disappointed! :)  It's me, my wife Geraldine and my son, "Ricky."

Chris
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/he/hedcandy/.mids/rickyfamilypicture
.jpg


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:  Exotica Kindergarten
Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:20:06 -0500


>I will chime in on this stream:  we have 7 year-old twin boys, Sam and Ben,
>and a 3 year-old girl, Alice.  The boys have already been peer-group
>programmed and can't stand Dad's taste in music--it's Back Street Boys and
>N'Sync for them, with an occasional dip into a disco sampler.

They're getting their hooks into the kids at that age already, nowadays?

sigh... That's really depressing.


buying my tickets to gloomville,

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Talkin' To Your Heart
Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:20:29 -0500


I finally listened to an album that's been waiting around since summer '98
(yeesh!):

Jim Reeves - "Talkin' To Your Heart" (RCA, 1961)

This is not your typical Jim Reeves album. It's a spoken word album, with
Jim reciting homespun sort-of-verse stories over smooth countrypolitan
orchestra & wordless chorus backing (production by Chet Atkins). He
occasionaly croons a line or two.

Titles include:

"Trouble In The Amen Corner" -- the church choir objects to old Brother
Ira's aged and cracked singing voice. Ira gets sad and dies.

"The Gun" -- a jilted man's desire for revenge eventually turns to pity.

"Too Many Parties And Too Many Pals" -- you can imagine.

"Old Tige" -- a genuine shaggy dog story... and more sadness and death.

"Men With Broken Hearts" -- "You'll meet many like me, on life's busy
streets..." Think of a wholesome Tom Waits.

I guess you can gather that this is not a funtime party album.


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Exotica Kindergarten
Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:41:52 EST



In a message dated 3/2/0 4:18:10 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>They're getting their hooks into the kids at that age already, nowadays?

Oh yeah...Disney's always cultivating a teen act for the l'il gals to sigh
over. There's Jonny Lang, the gravel voiced blond with shoulder length locks
who appears to be able to play guitar and sing rough-edged rock 'n' roll.
He's not too bad. They had a "live" Back Door Boys concert where interspersed
between stage performances, they showed snippets of the Boys in NYC shootin'
hoops in a 'hood (where the camaraderie and ol' boy bonding was straight
outta central casting), buyin' threads at a groovy teenwear shop (where they
each 'splained how they do fashion), and a few reflective moments where they
each talked 'bout the family "back home" and how much they meant to 'em. It
may have been true, but appeared so contrived and Disneyfied that I wallowed
in cynicism through the whole thing. And the worst of it is--and you 'rents
know what I'm talkin' 'bout!--we videotaped it so the kidz could see it over
and over...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Kids and other stuff
Date: 02 Mar 2000 16:53:00 -0500



My wife told me about this movie that was on AMC yesterday in the
afternoon. A Jayne Mansfield flick called "The Girl Can?t Help It". Had
Julie London and a terrific looking Abbey Lincoln singing in it.

Talking about kids, I can?t seem to get a reaction to the music from my 4
year old daughter Geneva. Although today my wife Carol tried to get Geneva
singing to a song on the radio. The song was "Daddy". Julie London and Pat
Suzuki have sung it. The girl is singing about wanting jewelry, cars and
furs.

Well, Geneva would not sing along  so she tried to get her to sing about
Barbie stuff. Something like "Daddy" I want a Barbie car, jewelry,
everything. Still no singing. Just laughing. Ah well.

Speaking of kids and  music. Found a couple of nearly mint Disney records.
Alice in Wonderland with a  record cover doubling as a book. Has a die cut
out in the front. The Barbi soundtrack, and the Aristocats. I was very
excited about the Aristocats.   I hadn?t seen the movie it years, since I
was a kid, but Carol told me I would like the music in it and she showed me
the scene in the movie called "Let?s Get in Line" with the geese getting
the cats walking in a line to Paris. The music had a "Baby Elephant Walk"
quality to it. Snatched the record when I saw a picture of the scene "Let?s
Get in Line" on the back and it?s not in the record! On closer inspection
the record is called"The Aristocats and other songs about Cats" or
something like that. Still a good record with a cut of Louie Prima doing
"That Darn Cat" from the movie I guess.

Over the weekend we watched "the Great Mouse Detective" score by Henry
Mancini.

Domenic




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Esquivel 4 Sale
Date: 03 Mar 2000 00:26:43 +0000


ok, folks

here goes the family jewels ;-)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274436963

Sem Sinatra




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Combustible Edison now on customdisc.com
Date: 02 Mar 2000 20:22:00 -0800


Hey, looks like customdisc.com just livened up its offerings with music
from Sub-Pop Records.  Not sure about their other artists, but this is the
label with Combustible Edison.  If you don't have all their CDs, you can
get a sample at customdisc.com and even include some of the cuts on a CD
you build yourself from their available recordings.

I sort of like this service, although it is pricey.  Cost is usually a
dollar a song and you have a 70 minute limit (of course).  There is also an
additional 6 dollar fee tacked on.  If you get a special discount (and they
often make them), it can get slightly more reasonable.  My main concern is
the lack of available artists and selections.  However, I just put together
my fifth CD of this sort (two on customdisc.com and three on
musicmaker.com) thanks to the new available cuts from CE.

Les Baxter is also represented with cuts from a couple of albums on
customdisc.com.  You can find Ferrante and Teicher on musicmaker.com.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Kevin Leeeeee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) br. cleve's list / shameless plugs
Date: 02 Mar 2000 23:15:46 MST


in regards to NEW exotica/electronica type fare might i plug another email
list that may be of interest:

POP NOUVEAU
(a feeble attempt at an all-inclusive label for a huge variety of new
exotica/easy/etc. music)

http://www.egroups.com/group/popnouveau/info.html

go to above URL or just email me and i'll hook you up.

kevin leeeeee

ps  sorry, here's yet another shameless plug:  look for me on
http://www.luxuriamusic.com
spinning much of this so called "Pop Nouveau" music.





______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Screamin Tikis live onweb this Tues.
Date: 02 Mar 2000 23:07:42 -0800


Huntington Beach Surf/Tiki band The Screamin Tikis will play live

Tues. 3/7
Screamin' Tikis Fat Tuesday live Webcast
6:00  Go to
www.bexel.com
and download the right tools
The timing is up in the air but start looking about 6:00

[e-mail]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Air - Virgin Suicides
Date: 03 Mar 2000 08:43:30 -0500


How's this soundtrack?

Good????






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] George Duning,Begona Palacios
Date: 03 Mar 2000 10:04:30 -0500


  L.A. Times -- Thursday, March 2, 2000

George Duning; Prolific Film Composer
By MYRNA OLIVER, Times Staff Writer

     George Duning, a prolific composer of music for television and
motion pictures who was nominated for Academy Awards five times, has
died at the age of 92.
     Duning, who scored such classic films as "From Here to Eternity"
and "Picnic," died Sunday at Alvarado Hospital in San Diego of
cardiovascular disease.
     The former jazz trumpeter was nominated for Oscars for those two
films in 1953 and 1955, respectively. He also was nominated for "Jolson
Sings Again" in 1949, two years after he began his contract with
Columbia Pictures; for "No Sad Songs for Me" in 1950; and for "The Eddy
Duchin Story" in 1956.
     During his 15 years with Columbia, Duning composed music for about
half a dozen motion pictures a year. Among them were "Let No Man Write
My Epitaph," "My Sister Eileen," "3:10 to Yuma," "Houseboat," "That
Touch of Mink" and "Bell, Book and Candle."
     Duning also composed extensively for television series, including
"The Big Valley," "Alcoa-Goodyear City Theatre," "Naked City" and "Star
Trek." He wound up his long career as musical director of Aaron Spelling
Productions.
     Top-quality music in movies and television shows, he often said,
helped upgrade the public's taste in music. And he made no secret of his
disdain for the rock 'n' roll that emerged during his most productive
years.
     "Rock 'n' roll is a phonied-up, made-to-order fad," Duning told The
Times in a 1960 interview. "And disc jockeys do a disservice to the kids
by playing it."
     He admitted at the time that his own teenage daughters played rock
'n' roll records in his home. But he said his hopes that their tastes
would change were raised when one daughter heard Duke Ellington on the
radio, thought he was a new musician and rated him "great."
     If Elvis Presley had never earned Duning's musical appreciation,
Ellington always did. Duning's own career began with jazz.
     Born in Richmond, Ind., a center for early jazz recording, Duning
grew up hearing music. His father was a conductor and sang in oratorios,
and his mother gave organ and piano lessons. He studied music theory at
the Cincinnati Conservatory of Music and studied composition with Mario
Castelnuovo-Tedesco.
     Duning started his own band at age 15, and after college joined
various jazz bands as a trumpeter. He also played with marching bands
and concert bands.
     In the 1930s, Duning got his initial career boost when he was hired
as musical director of the radio game show "Kay Kyser's Kollege of
Musical Knowledge." In 1939, when Kyser signed with RKO to do a series
of films, Duning went along as musical arranger.
     The work was interrupted by World War II, which put Duning in the
Navy as conductor and arranger for the Armed Forces Radio Service.
     Throughout his Hollywood career, Duning worked in musicians'
organizations. He served on the Board of Directors of the American
Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers from 1972 to 1985 and as
the organization's vice president from 1978 to 1979. He also served on
the board of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
     Duning earned a career achievement award from the Society for
Preservation of Film Music in 1987, and was named Indiana Composer of
the Year in 1993. He also won awards from the Hollywood Foreign Press
Assn. and Downbeat magazine.
     He is survived by his wife, Lois, of Borrego Springs, Calif., and
La Jolla; two daughters, Kathleen Frankeberger and Patricia Brayton of
Port Townsend, Wash.; a brother, LeRoy Duning of Lebanon, Ohio; five
grandchildren; and two stepchildren.
--------
                        *Begona Palacios
    MEXICO CITY (AP) -- Begona Palacios, an actress who was the wife
of the late film maverick Sam Peckinpah, died Wednesday of a liver
malfunction. She was 58.
    Palacios met Peckinpah while starring in B films in Hollywood in
the early 1960s. She was best known in Mexico for action movies
such as ``The Saint Against the Strangler,'' and ``The Saint
Against the Ghost of the Strangler,'' both filmed in 1963.
    Last year, she starred in the Mexican soap opera, ``La
Chacala.''
------
Leni Riefenstahl
The German filmmaker/photographer and perennial "but she died years ago!"
case was in a helicopter that crashed while attempting an emergency
landing on Tuesday in Sudan,and has now been transported to a hospital
in Germany suffering from broken ribs and bronchitis.She is said to be
weak but doing well in the circumstances,no idea what the prognosis is.
She was born in 1902.
----



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Amsterdam finds
Date: 03 Mar 2000 18:19:55 +0000


Poor record shopping in Amsterdam - markets full of dross, 2nd hand sho=
ps
full of rock, not impressed.

Only one find worthy of attention:

Iceberg Slim's Reflections LP - The Berg raps over some middle of the r=
oad
jazz. Entertaining and culturally significant but not overly exciting i=
n my
eyes. It was only around =A37 which I think is a good price but I wish =
I'd
found the racks of European Jazz and soundtracks I'd been dreaming abou=
t.

Talking of Dutch records, has anybody got Ritual by Nico Gomez and his
African Percussion? Its been out for a while as a bootleg. What a recor=
d!

Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+
=





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: byost <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Robert Moog on "Fresh Air"
Date: 03 Mar 2000 12:41:24 -0600


As someone pointed out last week, Robert Moog was recently interviewed and
demonstrated some of his synths on the NPR program Fresh Air.  If you want
to hear it in Real Audio, go to:

http://whyy.org/cgi-bin/FAshowretrieve.cgi?2825

I really enjoyed it myself.

promo copy:
<<ROBERT MOOG (pronounced with long "O") Is the Inventor of the Moog
synthesizer, an electronic keyboard which makes unworldly sounding
electronic music. He Invented It In 1965. Moog didn't Invent, but he does
manufacture the Theremin, the first electronic instrument. It was Invented
70 years ago by a Russian, and It's been used on many science-fiction films
because of It's eerie, wavering tones. >>

-- Brad



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) MP3 for Mac - a little extra help
Date: 03 Mar 2000 16:19:20 +0000


folks

i know it's taken some time to get back on this but i doubt any of the Mac
owners will have sold theirs since the last posts

>To Keith and other Mac users on this list:  to play existing MP3 files on
>a Mac you will need either the new Quicktime 4.1 app from Apple or
>MacCAST

i still use the free and elegant SoundApp, easily findable (try macdownload
or tucows)

>To create MP3s on a Mac, you will need Toast Audio Extractor software
>which makes AIFF files from ripping the redbook audio tracks on your CDs.

or movieplayer will do this too (File:import) though it won't do all the
tracks on a CD at once, which Toast Extractor will

>You then need to drag and drop the
>individual AIFF files onto an application called "MP3 Encoder" which is
>freeware

try http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d2linjo/mp3/

and to use this you'll need to put

SWA Export Xtra (226k) in the same folder ...  available from

http://www.macromedia.com/support/soundedit/how/shock/

i've also been using macster from http://www.macster.com recently, which
works like the dreaded (by industry) napster programme ... i know it can
find 40 different versions of the Mission Impossible theme, should you so
require

happy huntin'

Sem Sinatra





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alvino Rey
Date: 03 Mar 2000 10:03:36 -0800


Hello, hello!

  I've been grooving on Alvino Rey via the tracks featured on the Ultra Lounge and Cocktail Mix anthologies. I'm interested in acquiring a cd of his music but I understand he was also with a rather cheesy big band ~~ does any have any tips on what to get and what to avoid?

  Thanks!

   ~~ Paul ~~


MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime!
http://www.mailcity.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) fwd: Mardi Gras on-line
Date: 03 Mar 2000 17:05:11 -0500


Webcam network aggregator Cammunity.com is ready for the climax of
Mardi Gras celebrations in New Orleans with feeds from 15 remote
cameras positioned to record one of the world's largest extended
parties. From the famed Tipitina's, where live concerts still on
tap include those of Better Than Ezra and The Radiators, to vantage
points over the colorful parades which continue this weekend, the
Mardi Gras Webcams are well-positioned for fun. Seven cams are
placed along the parade routes, beginning at the corner of Napoleon
and St. Charles and including the media stand in Gallier Hall where
the parades salute the Mayor. Meanwhile, in the French Quarter,
cams are strategically placed to catch the festivities on Bourbon
Street. Mardi Gras Webcams will be recording until Mar. 7.

World Wide Web: http://www.avcammunity.com/mardigras/



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Alvino Rey
Date: 03 Mar 2000 18:17:25 PST



>
>   I've been grooving on Alvino Rey via the tracks featured on the Ultra
>Lounge and Cocktail Mix anthologies. I'm interested in acquiring a cd of
>his music but I understand he was also with a rather cheesy big band ~~
>does any have any tips on what to get and what to avoid?

i have his greatest hits LP on Dot records and it is probably one of my
favorite LPs of the last year or so. Great rendition of Bloop Bleep and the
Slim Gailiard tune Cement Mixer. Lots of fun female chorus-y vocals and of
course the great Alvino on the pedal steel.


ZZZZZZing

-jonny yuma

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Bradford Ross-MacLeod" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Member
Date: 04 Mar 2000 00:25:43 -0500


Greetings folks,

    I just subscribed and wanted to introduce myself.

    My name's Brad Ross-MacLeod.  I'm 34, married (with my first baby due
next week), living in the very un-cool central Pennsylvania (a Philly
transplant).  I used to teach college (communication), among other pursuits.
I will in the near future be a stay-at-home dad which I'm really looking
forward to.

    As for music, lounge/exotica/etc. is part of my musical interest.  I
have way too many cds to mention and I'm sure my tastes will filter out as
you get to know me....

    My real introduction to lounge was the Hollyridge Strings Christmas
album which my parents had when we were kids.  It worked its way into my
subconscious over the years.  (I still have it, and as it's impossible to
find I transferred it to CD-R this year and am now happy as can be...).  A
few years ago I mentioned in passing on another (unrelated) music list that
I was getting into lounge.  Well, a friend of mine on the list who worked at
BMG distribution sent me the entire Ultra-Lounge series (plus the Denny,
Gleason, and Baxter double cd sets).  Needless to say, it was a great
gift....

    I'm starting to explore some of the new electronica artists who sample
and use exotica records as sources and inspiration (Fantastic Plastic
Machine, Cornelius, Pizzicato Five, etc.).  Any recommendations here would
be helpful.  As would any exotica stuff that makes good music for babies....

    Hope to get to know you....

    Brad
    [e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New Member
Date: 03 Mar 2000 22:21:23 -0800


>Greetings folks,
>
>    My name's Brad Ross-MacLeod.  I'm 34, married (with my first baby due
>next week), living in the very un-cool central Pennsylvania (a Philly
>transplant).  I used to teach college (communication), among other pursuits.
>I will in the near future be a stay-at-home dad which I'm really looking
>forward to.

Hi Brad and Welcome.  I'm also a Philly transplant (born and raised),
living about 3,000 miles away from there in rainy Washington state for
the past almost 20 yrs.

>    As for music, lounge/exotica/etc. is part of my musical interest.  I
>have way too many cds to mention and I'm sure my tastes will filter out as
>you get to know me....

My own tastes in Exotica are not quite as wide and varied as most on this
list; however, I do enjoy most of what falls into the instrumental "easy
listening" category with special emphasis on people like Henry Mancini &
Burt Bacharach (which is the music I grew up with and heard while at home
and whose works I also played in high school band, for the most part).

The "other" part of me (which, I'll admit, is the part that is dominant!)
is solid Brazilian and Bossa Nova related with emphasis on people like
The Gilbertos, Tom Jobim, Laurindo Almeida, Luis Bonfa, and Brazil's No.
1 Organist!

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) New Member
Date: 04 Mar 2000 12:44:19 EST



In a message dated 3/4/0 12:23:09 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I'm starting to explore some of the new electronica artists who sample
>and use exotica records as sources and inspiration (Fantastic Plastic
>Machine, Cornelius, Pizzicato Five, etc.).  Any recommendations here would
>be helpful.  As would any exotica stuff that makes good music for babies....

Welcome aboard Brad and prepare for a busy first year of baby-hood. Don't
forget to make plenty of soothing sounds for him/her. As for the new artists
using EZ samples, I am exploring that terrain at present. Start off with
"Ursula 1000". Its just what the doctor prescribed. I don't know where you
can get it these days, but I found mine at Cutler's Records in New Haven. It
was the "last" one. Follow that one up with "Kinky Beats" which  you can get
from Other Music (http://www.othermusic.com) or call them at 212-477-8150.
They say they are working on getting an 800 number. Also try some of the
Italian E-Z tempo remixes, particularly the ones by Piero Piccioni. They are
fantastic. Dusty Groove has them still I think (http://www.dustygroove.com)
1-888-DUSTYGR. They also have the "Bob E Helen" remix by Piero Umiliani which
isn't bad either. And finally, if you can still find it, see if you can get
"Its Doopie Time" by The Doopies. The track "Doopie Time" is, IMHO, sheer
Japanese sampling brilliance. They cobble together several TV themes and make
it very danceable. Others on this list should be able to supply you with
other titles to seek, Brian and Cheryl in Canada, and Brother Cleve in
Boston. Enjoy the ride, its a great digest. JB/3 years here and still look
forward to reading postings


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) school band records
Date: 04 Mar 2000 16:10:23 -0500


Greetings, new guy (or anyone new who's just lurking). Sorry you caught us
when we seem to have "fallen and can't get back up."

Inspired by the article in the latest issue of Cool And Strange Music, does
anyone want to testify on school band records?

I always check the track titles when I see them, but they usually look to
be on the dull side. So I only have one so far:

"Parkland Elementary Band Spring Concert -- May 4, 1978" It teased me with
titles like "Cha-Cha Rock" and "Minuet Rock" (a Bach adaptation), which
unfortunately turned out to be a bit disappointing ("Cha-Cha Rock" is
neither Latin nor rocking, just relentless in its simplicity). However,
"Apollo XI March" more than makes up for them, with slightly exotic, minor
key lines. Despite the space-age title, it has a Hollywood Bible epic
sound. "Rock Of Gibraltar", which features the brass ensemble & drums, is
also fun. I think the band (which sounds fairly large) is pretty darned
good for elementary school kids. It has the usual cautious rhythmic feel,
slightly wobbly here and there... some off-pitch strings on higher
passages... a stray clarinet occasionally lets out a honk. But nothing too
hideous. Nice job, kids.

Any other stories to tell? Anyone with their OWN school band records still
on hand?

Thanks,

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records
Date: 04 Mar 2000 13:55:59 -0800


>Any other stories to tell? Anyone with their OWN school band records still
>on hand?

Yes, I still have mine and it's the only school band album I own (though
I have seen LOTS of others for sale at used record stores).  Mine is "The
Cardinal O'Hara High School Band, (Springfield, PA), At The Philadelphia
Civic Center" (1970).  This was made when I was in junior (3rd) yr.
there.  The pieces selected for the album definitely reflect the times &
what was popular--that's for sure.  A sample of what's on the LP
includes:  Henry Mancini's "Swing March", Burt Bacharach's Suite from
"Promises, Promises", also "The Look of Love", "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on
My Head".  Also the Finale from the Overture of the Broadway Show "1776",
"Sun City", "Sleeping Beauty", and of course the h.s. alma mater/school
song.  I won't bore you with the liner notes on the back as they are just
a history of the school's music department and who was the band director
during what years.

I never really thought of school band records as "Exotica", but then
again, I don't know where else you would classify them, either!

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records
Date: 04 Mar 2000 17:05:54 -0500


Hi, all,

i didn't see cool and strange... funny, i thought i subscribed. i'd
better contact them.

anyway, this is a collecting area for me. it is, frankly, one of the
richest and most rewarding areas of collecting (yes, i'm that strange).

i won't list my prizes, the list is a foot long, but i do have a high
school band doing a frank zappa tune, and other winners. some will show
up on my series 'americana...'

btw, everyone who let me know what i still owe them take heart, i'm
shipping.

thanks

ck


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 5
Date: 04 Mar 2000 17:57:59 -0500


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.


Space Bop #85   Beat It!

Yet more breakbeat and sampling.  Some a little on the naughty
side...(keeping in mind that this is being aired on the radio, and we
will have our 3-year-old in the studio with us this week, so we had to
tone things down a bit...) and some on the nice side.

Low-Fi Generator:  Stereo (Wohnzimmer Mix)  "RO 3003"
Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band:  Apache  "Kinky Beats"
Ursula 1000:  Polyblend  "The Kinky Sounds Of..."

Los Chicharrons:  Chicharron 'n Boogaloo  "Conga Heaven, Bongo Hell"
Sunny Face:  Sunny Cha Cha Cha  "Kinky Beats"
Stereo Total:  Amour Spacial  "RO 3003"

Merricks:  Schwabing Girls  "RO 3003"
Tim "Love" Lee featuring Chantilly Peach:  Twitchin'  "Suck It And See"
Jacknife Lee:  Brown Glitter  "Muy Rico!"

Arling & Cameron:  1999 Spaceclub  "Music For Imaginary Soundtracks"
Fantastic Plastic Machine:  Green Door  "Suck It And See"
Maxwell Implosion:  Moonboots  "RO 3003"


Thanks for reading.


[e-mail]
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records
Date: 04 Mar 2000 20:41:50 -0500 (EST)


At 05:05 PM 3/4/00 -0500, CK wrote:
>i didn't see cool and strange... funny, i thought i subscribed. i'd
>better contact them.

Don't panic yet, CK. I haven't received the latest ish yet myself. It's one
of the advantages of living in Brooklyn - the PO saves the best for last!
Basically, Dana figures that by the time I get my copy, everyone everywhere
else has already gotten theirs, and that's his cue to start writing and
distributing promo copy.
>
>anyway, this (school band) is a collecting area for me. it is, frankly, one
of the
>richest and most rewarding areas of collecting (yes, i'm that strange).
>
Add my name to the list of School band LP collectors. I also collect summer
camp Color War LPs, and Drum&Bugle Corps LPs. Don't pass up any D&B records
you may find - they fetch good size $$ from the small but serious group of
D&B afficienados.

-Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connection
Date: 05 Mar 2000 01:24:25 EST


Well before the Ultra Lounge series ever came out, Irwin Chusid came up with
the idea to put together a series of CDs that would highlight what would
later become dubed "lounge music." Irwin came up with the idea for the seies
just after the first "Incredibly Strange Music" CD was released.
Unfortunatley due to some foot dragging with respect to licensing masters
from the third party source enlisted (that was out of Irwin's and my
contriol) this series never materialised.

One CD in this proposed series was to be composed entirely of "exotica"
music. Interestingly enough, Irwin had picked the very exotic instrumental
track "Let's Go Away For A While" from the Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds" album as
a fine example of "exotica" coming from a surprsing source not associated
with this style of music. Irwin mentioned that it was his plan in the liner
notes to mention that it was very likely Brian Wilson's father, Murray Wilson
who may have at one point in Brian's musical education exposed Brian to the
music of Martin Denny and thereby influenced the composition and arrangment
of this track. Due to the popularity of Denny's albums this seems hardly a
questionable assumption that one if not more of Denny's albums resided in the
record cabinet ogf the Wilson household.

Well you can imagine my pleasant surprise that while exploring the 4 CD "Pet
Sounds" box set earlier this evening I discovered in the sessions personel
listing that it was in fact Martin Denny's vibe player Julius Wechter who in
fact plays the vibes on "Let's Go Away For A While." Not only that, but
Wechter also provides percussion touches on other "Pet Sounds" album tracks:
"You Still Believe In Me" (the finger cymbals) and "I Know There's An Answer"
(tambourine).

What a fascinating family tree this makes!


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records
Date: 05 Mar 2000 19:29:20 +1100


on 5/3/00 8:10 AM, m.ace at [e-mail] wrote:


>
> Inspired by the article in the latest issue of Cool And Strange Music, does
> anyone want to testify on school band records?

> Any other stories to tell? Anyone with their OWN school band records still
> on hand?

I often regret that I don't have any recordings of the school band I was in
back in the late '60's. Our conductor was a famous trumpet player in
Australia and arranged for us tunes like Caravan, El Cumbanchero etc. I'm
sure we murdered them beautifuly. However, the other day I found a copy of a
record he had made in the '50's "The Fabulous Trumpets of the Victorian
Trumpet Trio". On the back - his name in his own handwriting (I remember his
curly capitals) - not autographed for somone but his personal copy. When I
took it to the counter and told the guy it was by my old trumpet teacher he
had a look and it turns out he had been taught by another member of the trio
on the lp!

Not a bad record either. Virtuosic performances of El Relicario, Cumana,
Sabre Dance, Ritual Fire Dance etc.

Philip - no longer blowing his own horn.
--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:35:09 +1100


Hi kids!

Welcome, Brad M.!  I'm sure you'll dig the wide-ranging topics here; I know
I have.

GREAT NEWS to tell you all.  I'm beginning work, with Scott Smith, Ferrante
& Teicher's manager, on the first and only Official F&T Website!!!  I'm so
excited I could poop diamonds.  (Ick, what a foul image--sorry)

I'd like to ask any of you who dig the Grand Twins of the Twin Grands what
you'd love to see on the site...love to have all your input.  I've come up
with a groovy look for the site.  It will include a complete discography (a
first on the web), album cover gallery, photos of the guys, etc.  Do you
think we should have a fan page?  or chat room?  Come on and throw me some
input!

Cheers,

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Minneapolis Exotica
Date: 05 Mar 2000 01:18:22 -0800


"THE SON OF VOODOO!"

MINNESOTA CONTEMPORARY ENSEMBLE
with
THE VIENNA SAX QUARTET
VANESSA TOMLINSON
VIC VOLARE
JANET GOTTSCHALL-FRIED
and
KING KINI

Fine Line Music Cafe, Minneapolis * [phone]
SATURDAY, APRIL 29th * 8PM
Tickets $13 advance - $15 day of show (all Ticketmaster outlets)

With the success of last year's standing-room-only show at the Fine
Line Cafe, Minnesota Contemporary Ensemble (MCE), will again present
an eclectic evening of music including noire, lounge, contemporary,
and experimental. We will perform works by L A  bassist Joey Altruda,
a leader in the "new cool school" movement in Los Angeles, who's
music is featured in the movie "Swingers".

We will also give the world premiere of a new work by Robert Drasnin,
the former head of CBS television's music division for 20 years and
last year's featured artist by MCE.  Other highlights of the evening
include Leonard Bernstein's classic and rarely performed "Prelude,
Fugue, and Riffs", The soundtrack to Orson Well's "Touch of Evil",
XTC's "Man who Sailed Around His Soul" featuring Vic Volare, and two
works by Yma Sumac with Janet Gottschall -Fried, performer with the
Minnesota Opera and the Theatre de la Jeune Lune.

This year's show features an outstanding line-up of soloists
including internationally regarded percussionist Vanessa Tomlinson, a
frequent performer with Germany's "Ensemble Modern", giving the world
premiere of Erik Griswold's Every Night the Same Dream. We will also
have as guest artists the Vienna Sax Quartet performing their
arrangement of Steve Reich's New York Counterpoint which was
re-written in collaboration with the composer.  The MCE band will
also include Doug Little from the Motion Poets on solo tenor sax and
flute.

In between sets,  audience members will be treated to Minneapolis'
own "lounge/exotica" expert, King Kini, spinning vinyl from his truly
unique and unmatched collection of vintage recordings.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Breakbeats for kids?
Date: 05 Mar 2000 11:34:36 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:
> >I'm starting to explore some of the new electronica artists who sample
> >and use exotica records as sources and inspiration (Fantastic Plastic
> >Machine, Cornelius, Pizzicato Five, etc.).  Any recommendations herewould
> >be helpful.  As would any exotica stuff that makes good music for
babies....
> Others on this list should be able to supply you with
> other titles to seek, Brian and Cheryl in Canada, and Brother Cleve
I think we're in the same place a Jimmy, exploring this terrain, and far
from experts in this area.  Still, after a lot of searching we've managed to
turn up a few things. What I'm finding at least is the range is quite wide
and on a lot of these releases, the level of exotica-funk sampling varies
and some of it sounds like it crosses over into the hip-hop/house direction.
I'm no expert in classifications of dance music so... Still there are a few
notable ones that I could recommend without hesitation, in addition to those
recommended by Jimmy:

Tipsy, Sukia and Stock, Hausen & Walkman (especially "Organ Transplants").
These three groups have been around some time and are all pioneers in
exotica sampling.

DJ Me DJ You - Simplerockmachine (Emperor Norton, US)  Actually Sukia in
another disguise and one of the best things on this label.  He has a new one
out which I've yet to hear but expect to be good.

Dimitri From Paris (France) and Ursula 1000 (US) are both brilliant.  Each
has one CD and neither will disappoint.

The "Jet Society" compilation (Eighteenth Street Lounge, US) - has two
particularly strong tracks, one by the Norwegian group, The Bobby Hughes
Experience and one by the German group Mo' Horizons that were what first got
me interested in exploring this style. The rest is more bossa inspired but
highly recommended.

The Bobby Hughes Experience - Fusa Riot (Ultimate Dilemma, UK) This is the
most recent release by the band and lives up to all expectations.

Mo'Horizons - Come Touch the Sun (Stereo Deluxe, Germany) .
Jazz-African-Bossa inspired.  Quieter than some but it definitely grows on
you.

We've just received a bunch of new disks which I can't say we've heard
through enough to make any solid recommendation.  However, Los Chicarrons -
CongaHeaven, Bongo Hell (Tummy Touch, UK) seems to be a top contender and is
made with the right sense of humour to keep me listening. Also, Jacknife
Lee's - Muy Rico (Pussyfoot, UK) is quite good, though the rest of the disk
doesn't quite live up to his brilliant rendition of "The Cat" called "Here
Kitty Kitty" also featured on Kinky Beats. The compilation "Suck It and See"
samples porn films and is also recommended (not quite the thing for kids
though).  You will hear much of this if you tune into Space Bop today
(Sunday) from 4:00 - 5:00 pm (eastern standard time) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

The FSUK compilations (Future Sounds of the UK) of what I've heard are good
though they go all over the place.  We were fortunate to find three of the
four 2CD sets here in town and will feature excerpts from them on Space Bop
next week, so tune in if you want to hear more.  Still waiting on a few more
things by Resident Filters and Mint Royale which I expect to be good. As a
first purchase, certainly try Kinky Beats. Br. Cleve steered us to this one
and it is a great introduction!

As to music for babies, ours was particularly fond of Esquivel but who can
say.  Certainly there is Raymond Scott's - Music for Babies set which I'm
sure you would like too. Otherwise, just having interesting music around is
a good thing for kids (unless it happens to be Spice Girls, Britney Spears,
or any other of the kiddie cult drivel out there) Our rule here is Disney is
fine so long as it was made while Walt was alive. After that it's gotta
prove itself to us!
Oh yes, and we've managed to maintain our status as a Barney-free household,
against all odds...

Happy parenting (and listening)!





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connectio
Date: 05 Mar 2000 09:59:15 -0800


>Well you can imagine my pleasant surprise that while exploring the 4 CD "Pet
>Sounds" box set earlier this evening I discovered in the sessions personel
>listing that it was in fact Martin Denny's vibe player Julius Wechter who in
>fact plays the vibes on "Let's Go Away For A While." Not only that, but
>Wechter also provides percussion touches on other "Pet Sounds" album
>tracks:
>"You Still Believe In Me" (the finger cymbals) and "I Know There's An
>Answer"
>(tambourine).
>
>What a fascinating family tree this makes!

I just played the instrumental tracks from the mono version of that CD
that came out in 1990 (I don't own the boxed set).  While "Let's Go Away
for a While" is a very nice instrumental track, I personally prefer the
instrumental "Pet Sounds" track more.

Quite coincidentally, the subject of Julius W. playing vibes on this
album came up within the past week on another music discussion forum,
though no other comments on it have been posted.

My opinion:  I think we have to draw the line on the family tree,
somewhere.  If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the
presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include
Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel
played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was
the leader).  I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB
and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"!

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs?
Date: 05 Mar 2000 14:01:08 EST


Apologies if this has been covered here before, but I'm brand-new to this CD
burning thing.

I know this can be done, because some of you have talked about it, so how
does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl?

Any help is appreciated.

--Rod
www.hitchmagazine.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) ORGAN-IZED!
Date: 05 Mar 2000 14:07:20 EST


A quick recommendation for a recent CD that's flown completely under the
radar: the compilation "ORGAN-IZED!: An All-Star Tribute to the Hammond B3
Organ." It's on a division of Windham Hill, but don't let that scare you.

For an "all-star" lineup, I didn't recognize many of the names, because I
think most of them come from the jazz world. But John Medeski, DJ Logic,
Galactic, Jimmy Smith and Jack McDuff are among the 13 artists.

I think anyone who digs the Hammond sound won't be disappointed -- there's a
little lounge, a little jazz and a little funk among the tracks. No gospel,
thankfully.

For those looking for a budget-priced Hammond disc, I also recommend "Hammond
Organ Favourites," which can be found for around $7 (if memory serves
correct) from Collector's Choice (www.ccmusic.com). Mostly covers of classics
of the lounge canon, including several by Bacharach.

--Rod
www.hitchmagazine.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage
Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:11:18 +0100


Keith E. Lo Bue wrote:

> I'd like to ask any of you who dig the Grand Twins of the Twin Grands what
> you'd love to see on the site...love to have all your input.

I'd like to see the index page as the inside of an elevator and hear soft
background music right away, by... guess who! In the mirror of the elevator
you would see a 70 inch tall ear with arms and legs, white gloves, a white
scarf, elegant stick and a tuxedo on top. The buttons of the elevator for the
diverse floors would be the links to the chapters of the homepage, which would
be designed as different 50s/60s styled appartments with stylish furniture and
vintage stereo equipments with small record collections, that could be played
by the visitor of the homepage. On the beds and sofas of the appartments
beautiful female ears with blond wigs and golden high heels would be stretched
out lasciviously. One room however would show a terrified ear-sex-bomb and in
that room you could click on the wardrobe, the doors would open and you would
find Ferrante & Teicher hiding naked inside.

Sorry, you asked for it!

Mo





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: CDs from LPs? good and bad burns?
Date: 05 Mar 2000 20:24:33 GMT





[e-mail] wrote:

>I know this can be done, because some of you have talked about it, so how
>does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl?

My understanding is that you have to a) connect your stereo to your
computer, and b) download the appropriate software. But someone else on this
list, I'm sure, can do a much better job than myself in explaining the
details of this. I don't have a burner.

I do, though, have a further question: why do some of my CD burns get
"rejected" by my CD player? I put them in, and can here the Cd player trying
to do its thing but it just doesn't catch. I've got two burns that are
unplayable (they aren't scratched either), and one that is a bit dicey at
times. NONE of my regular CD's do this. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
Anyone know if it can be fixed?
Any help here is appreciated.
Thanks
JBrouwer
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re:school band records
Date: 05 Mar 2000 13:26:43 -0700


I'm another collector of school band records (and all amateur music). I look
for usual repertoire -- pop tunes rather than religious or patriotic songs. I
have handbell choirs & ukulele bands in addition to the more usual vocal,
concert and marching bands. In this country, many schools made records to
celebrate Canada's centennial year (1967). These records are a staple of
Canadian thrift stores.

A related genre i also collect (am i the only one?) is "Studio 86" tapes. This
was a place where you would go to record your own vocals over prerecorded
backing tracks onto a cassette. In Canada, the first location was at Expo 86
in Vancouver. It expanded to West Edmonton Mall (now defunct). I have 16 of
these tapes that I've found in thrift stores (one of them was made at a place
called Centre Stage Recording Studios with locations in New Zealand and the
US). Almost without exception, they were recorded by groups of young girls who
display more enthusiasm than talent. A Goodwill cashier once tried to talk me
out of buying one, telling me it would probably be awful. On the contrary, I
replied, it's probably wonderful & much more entertaining than the original.
And indeed it was -- they're ALL delightful (in their way). Titles include
"The Rose", "That's What Friends Are For" (two versions), "The Locomotion"
(two versions); "The Wind Beneath My Wings" and so on. The only one I have
that was recorded by a man is "Mamas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up To Be
Cowboys."

Mike Ewanus
All Sales Are Vinyl
http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/Welcome.htm


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs?
Date: 05 Mar 2000 13:10:48 -0800


>how does one go about burning a CD from a good old slab of vinyl?

Here are some useful sites:

http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~abcomp/lp-cdr.htm
http://resource.simplenet.com/primer/primer.htm

Jerry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys / Exotica Issues
Date: 05 Mar 2000 16:47:42 -0500


>My opinion:  I think we have to draw the line on the family tree,
>somewhere.  If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the
>presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include
>Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel
>played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was
>the leader).  I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB
>and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"!

Has the ol' epistemology question popped up yet again? I guess it's been a
while. My own observations of the list gestalt run like this...

I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica.
Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny,
Lyman, Sumac.

However, despite what the name of the list might imply, this list is not
solely about strict exotica. From space age pop to now sound to obscure
crackpots, we cover the waterfront. One way to describe what we cover might
be "the stuff that everyone else ignores." Though it's really more complex
than that. For example, Frank Sinatra certainly is not an ignored artist,
but it is not out of line to speak of him here. And the TJB and BMB are
certainly list-appropriate.

Does this mean the name of the list is a misnomer? In a way, yeah. But it's
the name we were "born with." It works fine. And it provides an emotional
center of sorts, for all of our diverse explorations to orbit around.

Finally, I think this passage from the list 'welcome' message bears
repeating (again):

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
>The Exotica mailing list is a forum for people interested in unusual
>music, primarily that from the 1950s and 1960s.  There is no hard and fast
>definition of "Exotica" as the distinction is primarily in the eye (and
>ear!) of the collector.  Just keep in mind that the primary focus of this
>mailing list is the *unusual*.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 05 Mar 2000 17:27:44 -0500


At 04:47 PM 3/5/00 -0500, m.ace wrote:
>
>I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica.
>Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny,
>Lyman, Sumac.

I disagree.  What is the strict definition of exotica?  I've always taken
it to mean an attempt to mix exotic musical influences in with "jazz-based"
musics such as swing or cocktail jazz.  So when you try to decide if
something is exotica you have to decide whether there is an exotic
influence AND whether the music at its base is jazz-ish.
In other words, if you used bird calls and Hawaiian tunes but mixed them in
with rhythm n blues, would it still be exotica?
I don't know.  But that's the only question that stops me from giving TJB
and BMB the stamp of exotica.  The music might be a bit too "rockin" at its
base to qualify.
But otherwise I think the vague Mexican or Mariachi influence qualifies it
as exotica every bit as much as it would if the influences were more Hawaiian.
Any record I have that combines swing or big band jazz with Chinese or
Japanese or Arabic sounds, I put in with the exotica records.
Like "Brass and Bamboo" by Tak Shindo or "Land of the Rising Sun" by Jack
deMello.
It doesn't have to come from the exact geographic origin - assuming you can
pin that down - as Les Baxter or Martin Denny's exotica to qualify, does it?

And having said all that, I might have reservations about the TJB but I
think the Baja Marimba Band absolutely qualifies as exotica.  I think I
could take a number of their cuts, put them on a mixed exotica tape and the
vibe would be uninterrupted.
Doesn't the very sound of the marimba, let alone all that overt
percussiveness qualify it as exotica?

And one more thing.  I know why people lump the TJB and the BMB together
but I think it's unfair and unflattering to the Baja boys.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 05 Mar 2000 14:59:36 -0800


>>I would agree, the TJB and the BMB are not strict definition exotica.
>>Strict exotica examples include Baxter (not his entire ouvre), Denny,
>>Lyman, Sumac.
>
>I disagree.  What is the strict definition of exotica?  I've always taken
>it to mean an attempt to mix exotic musical influences in with "jazz-based"
>musics such as swing or cocktail jazz.  So when you try to decide if
>something is exotica you have to decide whether there is an exotic
>influence AND whether the music at its base is jazz-ish.

Maybe the crux of the matter is defining what you call "exotic musical
influences".  That phrase is kind of vague to me and could mean any
number of things, not necessarily having to do with the music that's
talked about and covered on this list.  Does it mean musical influences
coming from remote and far-away parts (and peoples) of the world, or from
little-known and little-used minority instrumentation?  Or both?  Or
neither?

Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base.  From what
I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and
Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form
of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz".  So
how do they fit in with the rest?  Is it because they are tropical-island
based?  If so, I think a broader definition of "Exotica" is in order.

As for Exotica being "what everyone else ignores", I think that should be
amended to say "what everyone else *now* ignores".  A good deal of what
is considered to be Exotica *used* to be plain ol' popular music that was
once loved by the masses, played on radio stations infinitum, and whose
popularity has come and gone and is now relegated to "oldie" status by
the public, occasionally to get resurrected in a film (the way Burt
Bacharach did in "Austin Powers").

>And having said all that, I might have reservations about the TJB but I
>think the Baja Marimba Band absolutely qualifies as exotica.  I think I
>could take a number of their cuts, put them on a mixed exotica tape and the
>vibe would be uninterrupted.
>Doesn't the very sound of the marimba, let alone all that overt
>percussiveness qualify it as exotica?

In my opinion (again), I don't see any instrument being singled out to
qualify for the label of "Exotica", because it totally depends on how the
instrument is used within the piece of music.  Any number of instruments
can be used "percussively".

A circus caliope is not standardly used in jazz(!) or in mainstream
recordings, but unless/until a more encompassing definition of "Exotica"
is arrived at, I'd have no idea what "category" to put it in or if it
even would qualify as "Exotica".

>And one more thing.  I know why people lump the TJB and the BMB together
>but I think it's unfair and unflattering to the Baja boys.

I'm not sure why you believe it's unflattering, given that the two groups
share much the same personnel, record label, album producers, arrangers,
etc. etc.  I happen to like the sound of the BMB over the TJB, too (for
purely instrumentation reasons)--but credit has to be given where credit
is due, and the BMB recordings simply would not have existed without the
support of the members of the TJB and what formerly was Herb Alpert's
record company.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 05 Mar 2000 19:15:04 -0500


Sorry, I forgot to make my conclusion in the earlier message...

Better to simply relax and enjoy it than to drive yourself crazy splitting
hairs over definitions, boundaries and classifications.

Of course, if you enjoy that hair splitting process, that's a different
kettle of catfish. Go ahead and have a ball...

>>I disagree. What is the strict definition of exotica?

My old definition of "strict" exotica is:
Mood music incorporating elements evoking non-European/North American
regions: the Pacific islands, Asia, India, Africa, South America, the
tropics in general.

But that's just my definition. Everyone else will have their own.

And reading it again, I suppose that could include TJB [anti-lumping
barrier] or BMB. Though a lot of either band's material is a bit too bouncy
for mood music.

I guess next it'll be, "what's the definition of mood music?"

>As for Exotica being "what everyone else ignores", I think that should be
>amended to say "what everyone else *now* ignores"

"What everyone else ignores" already *is* present tense. (just teasing ;o)


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica connectio
Date: 05 Mar 2000 21:17:47 EST


In a message dated 3/5/00 1:00:58 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< My opinion:  I think we have to draw the line on the family tree,
 somewhere.  If you include this album as "Exotica" because of the
 presence of Julius Wechter, then by association you also have to include
 Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass as well--because many of those same personnel
 played on Wechter's own Baja Marimba Band albums (of which Wechter was
 the leader).  I don't know how others feel about this, but to me the TJB
 and the BMB don't fit in as part of "Exotica"! >>


Whooooaaaa boy! All I'm saying is that the particular track "Let's Go Away
For A While" has defintely been influenced by exotica and utilizes one of
exotica's master musicians to create it's sound. My comment on the family
tree was just a throwaway aside and it was in no way intended to have people
completely wasting there time over argumentsover whether to consider "Pet
Sounds" an exotica album....I know I've got better things to do than that,



like laundry.

Ashley


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:19:38 -0500


At 02:59 PM 3/5/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>
>
>Maybe the crux of the matter is defining what you call "exotic musical
>influences".  That phrase is kind of vague to me and could mean any
>number of things

Exactly.  It's vague.  The very concept of the "exotic" is vague.  It's an
image, a feeling.  It's about an idea more than it's about strict musical
influences.  So how can you say that the sounds influencing TJB and BMB
were NOT exotic?  If these bands do not qualify as "strictly" exotica, they
were certainly extensions of the concept that originally created exotica.
It was about bringing the "feeling" of exotic foreign destinations to a
mostly white suburban middle class audience.  It was about reminding them
of that Hawaiian band that met them at the airport OR that Mariachi band
that serenaded them on the beach.
It was about sitting in the rec room, putting on a Hawaiian shirt, sipping
a rum and coke and imagining copper skinned native girls serenading you.
It's true that Mexico is not quite as "exotic" as the mysterious far East
but when I see the Baja Marimba band dressed up as Mexican banditos, I
can't help thinking that we're basically in the same territory as Yma
Sumac, the Incan princess or whatever she was supposed to be.

>
>Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base.  From what
>I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and
>Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form
>of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz".

What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at
least "jazz based"?  They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with
something extra.  They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those
earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz.  It's not
bebop certainly.  It's more what I'd call "polite" jazz.  But it still
ain't rock n roll.

If you want to put TJB and BMB at the fringe of exotica, it doesn't bother
me.  All I was saying was that I could make an exotica tape and include
some BMB without most people - even on this list - going "hey what's that
doing there?"

It's not like I actually care if something does or doesn't qualify as
exotica.  If you want to split hairs, you could probably say "Martin Denny
is exotica but not when he covers McArthur Park" and in the right mood, I
might agree with you.  But I'd still try and throw it on the exotica tape
playing in my head.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) LP Question...
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:34:07 -0500


Came across an interesting LP that was marked too high for purchase.....it =
was a gatefold, double-LP set put out by the manufacturers of Seeburg =
jukeboxes as a demo of all the "Easy Listening" type music available to =
stock in said jukeboxes.

Now these are "corporate jukes" used to pipe music into offices, etc.  The =
cover says something like Easy Listening in cursive script, and there's a =
cover of the Seeburg machine.  Inside is a total zen-like experience as =
the entire gatefold is nothing but pure white space....not a dot of text =
anywhere......I even did a double-take an looked inside the gatefold a =
second time to be sure!!!=20

The back of the album is exactly the same as the front - looks like the =
wax is an entire, continuous track on all four sides......

Anybody have this?  What's it like?

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:34:39 -0500


Oh man - was that great!!!!

Great imagination!!!

I'll second that design.......

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:51:47 -0500


what
you'd love to see on the site

I would love to see a picture of the inside of a prepared piano!!

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=
=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Friends of Late Singer Searching for His 57 Children
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:54:39 -0500


Friday March 3 6:01 PM ET

Friends of Late Singer Searching for His 57 Children

By Dan Whitcomb

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Rhythm and blues wild man ''Screamin''
Jay Hawkins was pretty sure that he fathered roughly 57 children
during his life.  He just couldn't keep track of them all.

Now friends and family members of the eccentric singer, who died in
Paris last month at age 70, have begun a worldwide search for his sons
and daughters, who may or may not know that Hawkins, best known for
his 1956 hit single ``I Put A Spell on You,'' is their father.

But those long-lost children of Hawkins, who performed his
voodoo-inspired blues after emerging from a coffin, shouldn't expect
any money from their late father's estate.

``It's not like there's some huge pot at the end of the rainbow,''
said Hawkins' friend and lawyer Gary Spritz.  ''They're entitled to
nothing, to be honest with you.'' Spritz added that he had obtained
strands of Hawkins' hair, and could use them to scrutinize the DNA of
anyone claiming to be the late singer's son or daughter.

Spritz said the search, being conducted largely on the Internet, was
more for the purposes of ``closure,'' even though he hoped to track
down any of the children before Hawkins' will is submitted for probate
in May.

``Are YOU one of Jay's kids?'' asks a Web site dedicated to the search
that features a photo of the smiling Hawkins, who was married six
times and apparently sired a prodigious number of children out of
wedlock.

The Web site (www.jayskids.com) notes that Hawkins ''reportedly
fathered up to 57 children'' and asks visitors to contact his estate
``If you believe you may have had a child by Screamin' Jay Hawkins or
if you believe you are a child of Screamin' Jay Hawkins.'' Maral
Nigolian, a longtime friend of Hawkins, said the performer, known for
his outlandish live performances featuring a flaming skull named
``Henry,'' told her before his death that he wanted to reach out to
his kids -- all of them.

``The last time I visited him in Paris he told me that he had 57
children that he knew of,'' Nigolian said.  ``He personally didn't
think there was anything wrong with that, but he hoped that he would
have more time to find them and hoped that it would be done.  He said:
'You do it, Maral.''' Nigolian, an independent film producer currently
making a documentary about Hawkins, concedes that contacting all of
his kids could be nearly impossible, and adds that some of those who
knew he was their father were not speaking to him.

``He also performed all over the world, he was married to a Japanese
woman one time, he was married to a Hawaiian woman one time and
he had a number of relationships,'' she said.

Nigolian said the search was not intended to find heirs who might have
a claim to his estate, but to bring all of the children together at
least once in honor of their late dad.

``If it's possible, we'd like to bring all his children under one
tent, take his ashes and have a ceremony in his honor,'' Spritz said.

``We think we'll find at least 37 of them,'' Spritz added.  ''We'll
weed out the ones we're definitely not going to find, and with enough
word of mouth we think we can find the rest.''

Screamin' Jay Hawkins Related News Stories ╖ Screamin' Jay Hawkins
put a spell on us - Salon (Feb 18, 2000)

 Copyright ⌐ 2000 Reuters Limited.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Date: 06 Mar 2000 10:22:16 -0500


"Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>what
you'd love to see on the site

>I would love to see a picture of the inside of a prepared piano!!

Cool idea! You could use the Evelyn Glennie percussion masterclass
site ( http://www.braunarts.com/evelyn/intro.html ) as a model. Or
even better, the Interactive Gamelan site ( http://www.gsj.org/library/sw_gamelan.cfm ).
It would be great to play virtual prepared piano at your site. Think of
the possibilities! Drag and drop various items to various positions in
the piano, then play the v-keyboard to see what happens.
There's a PP cd-rom available ( http://www.propeller-island.com/sounds/dt/prepared_piano.html )
that you can use for playback.

-ls




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) school band records
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:36:12 -0600



School Band Records and such...

I only have school band TAPES (from early 80's) of my band days (I'm 26)...

It's too bad though I only have the lame tapes from concert years..  one
year
we played a tune called Incantation and Dance.  We had to practice it so
many
months to be able to play it that I wouldn't have wanted a tape of it if you
offered..

But now I can really appreciate what it was.. almost a clear cut exotica
piece!

It started with some slow mysterious strings like a yma sumax piece and then
the percussions
started in with the Claves (I played them).  More and more percussions came
in every 4 bars until
it was pretty groovy and then the rest of the band came back in.  I think
all the time the percussion
was going there was a solid note from the Oboes going
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.  The piece picked up
and ended up sounding something like the music in Raiders of the Lost Arc..
like running through
the jungle being chased by natives music.

Best part was the 'Whip' we cracked which was really some planks of wood
with a hinge and handles.  You just
clapped them together for a whip-like cracking sound.  We cracked it so loud
and hard the wood split on the boards
and we had to build another one.

I doubt anyone has heard of the piece, but I may look around the web and see
if I can find if there are any
recordings of it... Incantation and Dance.

Oh btw, we won the 'sweepstakes' playing the piece. I think it was so
difficult for a high school band they
would have given us the prize for playing it half-way decent... but we
played it very well.

OH yeah - the only band record I've bought thrifting was because of this:
On the cover of the album it showed
about 40 kids who were in this band.. it must have been an elementary school
band, pretty young kids.  Anyways,
on the black and white photo some kid had taken a marker and X'ed out every
kids face except for 2!  Those 2 had
big red circles around them. I assume this was the owner of the record and
their best friend.  It was kind of sweet they kept 2 circled, yet creepy
they crossed out the other 38.  Would make a good album cover now the way it
is.

Maybe a new thread:

If anyone has ever seen the pavement EP with the rooster on the record
cover.. this is actually a record jacket from an old album which has been
doctored with a pen or marker and reused as their album cover art.  I saw
this old album but didn't buy it ($7 at the time was steep).  I've seen the
Kim Novak cover of that Eddie Duchin story soundtrack colored in with a
marker and used as a 7' cover also.  That's a really common thrift store
soundtrack find it seems.
I just wonder if there are more exotica or soundtrack covers that have been
copped for post-modern reuse on modern record jackets.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Bradford Ross-MacLeod" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:59:25 -0500



----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2000 4:35 AM

> GREAT NEWS to tell you all.  I'm beginning work, with Scott Smith,
Ferrante
> & Teicher's manager, on the first and only Official F&T Website!!!

    I was at a local flea market when I came across a booth with loads of
"Easy Listening" LPs.  Lots of F&T and some other gems...."Switched on
Bacharach" included.

    If anybody has anything they're looking for, let me know.  Most of them
were pretty cheap ($2 or so, some as much as $10).  I live out in the middle
of nowhere and so I think there's less demand for these things.  So maybe I
could find something you've been looking for....

    Just a thought....

    Brad



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Record show, DC
Date: 06 Mar 2000 08:37:48 -0800 (PST)


Did anyone local to DC attend the record convention at
the Westpark Sunday? I saw very nice copies of
list-specific lps for reasonable prices (Bernie
Green's Futura, $10, e.g., and my currentfavorite
synthesized cheese, Rudy Rosa at the Hammond/ARP: $5).
Scored a nice copy of Joe Maphis's Fire on the Strings
for $3, Panics' Panicsville, etc. Nice little
cheerleaders' convention there, too. SWB.

BW


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Date: 06 Mar 2000 10:56:00 -0500


>"Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>I would love to see a picture of the inside of a prepared piano!!

Yeah! And I love Lou's idea of an interactive keyboard so we could make the
sounds ourselves. You could supplement the keyboard by designing the
prepped piano with mouseover events. Invite people to run their cursors
over the entire prepped piano body then surprise them by sounding off the
tones when they hit the strings or the pedals or whatever was the source of
specific sounds.

And for these pages, instead of Mo's giant ears, you could have disembodied
hands and a bunch of mallets, picks, bows, brushes, kitchen sponges, or,
what the hell, gardening tools--whatever F&T used.

Before Charles suggested the graphic, I went a bit nuts dreaming up a
scavenger hunt on the site--a sort of make-your-own-F&T-style music thingy
as a navigatation strategy. An alternative to Mo's penthouse metaphor.

And I've love to see graphics of F&Ts favorite records so we could get a
history of the musical influences that wacked their ears throughout their
careers. Show record spines or graphics of sleeves--click to open and hear
sound samples. You know, the same principle as bookshelves in Myst.

On second thought, most this stuff would probably require a CD-ROM.

How much input will F&T themselves have on the site, Keith? And does anyone
know how they feel now about their prepped piano stuff? Shame? Pride?
Chagrin? Apathy? And anyone want to recommend some good F&T sites? Lou?
TIA.

Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Minneapolis Exotica
Date: 06 Mar 2000 16:40:32 -0000


This looks like a real treat. I got my first listen to Drasnins 'Voodoo'
only recently and it is a beautiful piece of music, truly a Great Exotica
Classic, (no genre quibbles here I trust).

And so cheap too,  apart from the 500 quid or whatever it is return fare to
the US.  Very envious.  Very Envious Indeed.


El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/



MINNESOTA CONTEMPORARY ENSEMBLE
with
THE VIENNA SAX QUARTET
VANESSA TOMLINSON
VIC VOLARE
JANET GOTTSCHALL-FRIED
and
KING KINI

<snip>



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Date: 06 Mar 2000 12:01:00 -0500


Mimi Mayer <[e-mail]> wrote:
>  And anyone want to recommend some good F&T sites? Lou?
TIA.

I think that's the point of Keith's proposed site - there aren't any other
good F&T sites out there now.
While looking for one, though, I stumbled across an Australian
Christian EZ cocktail radio station with an on-line feed.
Check this page!:
http://www.4crb.com/Audio.html

Oh, here's another idea for the F&T site - F&T paper dolls. Picture, if
you will, 2 hairless F&T's standing there in their boxers. Surrounding
them are drag&drop outfits (tuxes, spacesuits, nehru jackets, etc.) and
hair (both scalp & facial). F&T varied their appearance with the times,
and it would be a beautiful thing to rummage through their virtual-closets.

-Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 06 Mar 2000 11:01:57 -0600


We've got tunes for comic book heroes on this week's Retro
Cocktail Hour webcast!  We'll hear Billy May's "Green Hornet
Theme" from the new Japanese CD reissue, plus music from
"Comic Book Heroes" by the Capes and Masks.  Irrelevant trivia:
didja know side 2 of "Comic Book Heroes" is really tunes from
Irving Joseph's earlier "Murder, Inc" album?  They simply stuck
different titles on for the "Comic Book Heroes" release.

Also, goofy cha-cha records by Don Swan and Jackie Davis;
underrated exotica from Frank Hunter's "White Goddess" and Mike
Simpson's rare "Jungle Oddysey";  the chimes, they are a-
swinging, with Dick Schory, David Carroll and Henry Mancini;
music for teenage rebellion from "The Wild One" and the ultra-rare
soundtrack from "Hot Rod Rumble"; plus tunes by the Three Suns,
Peter Thomas, Les Baxter and chanteuse Linda Lawson.

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, it's:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html

Requires a minimum 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer.  If
you tune us in, drop us a line and let us know!

Thanks for the space.

Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: CD burners
Date: 06 Mar 2000 12:31:43 -0500


James wrote:

> I do, though, have a further question: why do some of my CD burns get
> "rejected" by my CD player? I put them in, and can here the Cd player trying
> to do its thing but it just doesn't catch. I've got two burns that are
> unplayable (they aren't scratched either), and one that is a bit dicey at
> times. NONE of my regular CD's do this. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
> Anyone know if it can be fixed?
I can't say for sure but the laser in older CD players often have
lower output (I have an old and not at all shabbby California Audio
Labs Icon, complete with new laser assembly that suffers from this
problem) and the blue/green discs have a lower reflectivity index.
End result is they often can't be read-in. For me at least 2 of 3
blue/green burns are unplayable yet they all play fine on the
computer CD drive. The solution is simple - Use only gold or silver
backed blanks. I've never had a problem with them. I use Kodak but
there may be others, I think Mitsumi?  They cost a bit more ($2.25 -
 $2.50 apiece here in Montreal) but worth it in the end. Not all
machines, burners, or blanks seem to be equal.  Another case of a
lack of standards in the industry.  I'm beginning to more and more
understand (and appreciate) the Apple approach to computing. I
hear Moritz giggling in the background!


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:33:18 -0800


>Exactly.  It's vague.  The very concept of the "exotic" is vague.  It's an
>image, a feeling.  It's about an idea more than it's about strict musical
>influences.  So how can you say that the sounds influencing TJB and BMB
>were NOT exotic?

I said that because the music those two groups made doesn't put me in
mind of any music I've read about here so far on the Exotica list.  I
also originally read here that exotica was about music that everyone else
no longer bothers with.  I can assure you that the TJB and BMB are very
much alive on fan sites and other music discussion forums on the web and
that therefore there are many others "bothering" with their music!

>If these bands do not qualify as "strictly" exotica, they
>were certainly extensions of the concept that originally created exotica.

As extensions of exotica, I'd give a big "maybe" to that, though I still
have my reservations about their inclusion at all.

>>Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base.  From what
>>I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and
>>Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form
>>of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz".
>
>What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at
>least "jazz based"?  They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with
>something extra.  They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those
>earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz.  It's not
>bebop certainly.  It's more what I'd call "polite" jazz.  But it still
>ain't rock n roll.

I never said that those people you mention above weren't jazz based.  I
said that by your own definition, you called Exotica "jazz-ish at its
base".  I then replied that Exotica takes in Hawaiian/Tiki/Tropical music
as well--and those are certainly *not* jazz based.  Jazz means one thing
and one thing only to me--improvisation.  So, Exotica is taking in two
different worlds here--one jazz based and the other not.  Therefore, you
cannot call all of it jazz based.

I'm really not interested in splitting hairs over this or getting into
discussing different folks' musical tastes that influence what they like
& collect.  All I want is a workable definition of Exotica that is clear
about what it includes *as well as* what it excludes.  The definition as
it now stands does NOT take in everything that people have so far said is
within the realm of Exotica (school band records being a prime example).

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: CD burners
Date: 06 Mar 2000 12:31:43 -0500


James wrote:

> I do, though, have a further question: why do some of my CD burns get
> "rejected" by my CD player? I put them in, and can here the Cd player trying
> to do its thing but it just doesn't catch. I've got two burns that are
> unplayable (they aren't scratched either), and one that is a bit dicey at
> times. NONE of my regular CD's do this. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
> Anyone know if it can be fixed?
I can't say for sure but the laser in older CD players often have
lower output (I have an old and not at all shabbby California Audio
Labs Icon, complete with new laser assembly that suffers from this
problem) and the blue/green discs have a lower reflectivity index.
End result is they often can't be read-in. For me at least 2 of 3
blue/green burns are unplayable yet they all play fine on the
computer CD drive. The solution is simple - Use only gold or silver
backed blanks. I've never had a problem with them. I use Kodak but
there may be others, I think Mitsumi?  They cost a bit more ($2.25 -
 $2.50 apiece here in Montreal) but worth it in the end. Not all
machines, burners, or blanks seem to be equal.  Another case of a
lack of standards in the industry.  I'm beginning to more and more
understand (and appreciate) the Apple approach to computing. I
hear Moritz giggling in the background!


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ponak, David" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 3/4/00
Date: 06 Mar 2000 10:02:15 -0800


The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7
FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County).

Also check out my show  The Nice Age at  http://www.spikeradio.com on Sunday
afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST.

The Liquid Room-3/4/00:

1.The Association-Come On In
Birthday (Warner Bros.)

2.Great 3-From The Motion Picture 'Without Onion'
Without Onion (EMI-Japan)

3.Pau Mauriat-Get Back
L.O.V.E. (Phillips)

4.Mouse On Mars-Albion Rose
Niun Niggung

5.The Wiseguys-Start The Commotion
The Antidote (Ideal)

6.Aretha Franklin-Satisfaction
Aretha Arrives (Rhino)

7.Yoshinori Sunahara & Mars Art Lab-Preview
Pop Tics (Bungalow-Germany)

8.Cambodian Rocks-A2
Love, Peace & Poetry-Asian Psychedelic Music (QDK Media-Germany)

9.J-Welk-This Is A Soul Vibration
Heartbeat-Sunday Sessions IN Reykjavik (Uniform-Eu)

10.Hugo Montenegro-Caravan
Others By Brothers (RCA)

11.The Ananda Shankar Experience & State Of Bengal-Alma Ata
Walking On (Realworld)

12.Jenka-You (Be My Sweet)
Be (Epic-Japan)

13.Eternity's Children-Lifetime Day
Eternity's Children (Rev-ola-UK)

14.Riviera-Veruschka
Wir Im All (MP3.com)

15.Tom Jones With Portishead-Motherless Child
Reload (Gut-UK)

16.Jungle Brothers-Sounds Of The Safari
Straight Out Of The Jungle (Warlock)

17.Flaming Lips-Race For The Prize/Everyone's Gone To The Moon
UK radio live performances

18.Angelo Badalamenti & Orbital-Beached
The Beach Soundtrack (London)

19.Mongo Santamaria-Working On A Groovy Thing
Working On A Groovy Thing (Columbia)

20.Billy Stewart-Sitting In The Park
One More Time (Chess)

21.Arto Lindsay-Resemblances
Prize (Righteous Babe)

22.The Beach Boys-Let The Wind Blow
Wild Honey (Capitol)

23.The Wondermints-Bali
Bali (Neosite-Japan)

24.Brian Wilson-Love And Mercy
I Wasn't Made For These Times (MCA)

25.Beachwood Sparks-Silver Morning After
Beachwood Sparks (Sub Pop)

26.Lloyd Cole-There For Her
Don't Get Weird On Me Baby (Capitol)

27.The Supremes-I Keep It Hid
The Supremes (produced by Jimmy Webb) (Motown)

28.Masaru Satoh-Son Of Godzilla (The Readymade Retouched Mix by Konishi)
Destroy The Monsters (Triad-Japan)

29.Oasis-Who Feels Love
Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants (Epic)

30.The Free Design-Canada In Springtime
There Is A Song (Tokuma-Japan)

31.Papas Fritas-Girl
Buildings And Grounds (Minty Fresh)

32.Mellow-Sundance
Another Mellow Winter (Atmospheriques)

33.Thomas Dolby-Screen Kiss
The Flat Earth (Capitol)

34.The MiGs-Honolulu
Debut (?)

35.Rupert Holmes-I Don't Want To Get Over You
Singles (Epic)

36.Rocky Chack-Change
Single (Midi-Japan)

37.Terry Callier-Ordinary Joe
Occasional Rain (Chess)

38.Bootsy's Rubber Band-What's A Telephone Bill?
Ahh...The Name Is Bootsy Baby (Warner Bros.)

39.Susan Rafey-The Big Hurt
Hurts So Bad (Verve)

40.The Blue Nile-Saturday Night
Hats (A&M)

41.The Sandpipers-Come Saturday Morning
A&M Digitally Remastered Best (Polydor-Japan)

42.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On
Someday Man (Reprise)


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian Jazz
Date: 06 Mar 2000 11:22:54 -0800


>Date: Sun, 5 Mar 00 14:59:36 -0800
>From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
>
>Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base.  From what
>I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and
>Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form
>of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz".

As long as it's been recorded, Hawaiian music has always
been influenced by Jazz. Just listen to Sol Hoopii. Those
Hawaiian cats dug Django and Charlie Christian as much as
they dug Pele and Princess Papoolii.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Date: 06 Mar 2000 14:24:10 -0500


Don't forget an info-rich/low-bandwidth version (or section) for those who
lack cable modems and high horsepower computers.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 06 Mar 2000 09:33:18 -0800


>Exactly.  It's vague.  The very concept of the "exotic" is vague.  It's an
>image, a feeling.  It's about an idea more than it's about strict musical
>influences.  So how can you say that the sounds influencing TJB and BMB
>were NOT exotic?

I said that because the music those two groups made doesn't put me in
mind of any music I've read about here so far on the Exotica list.  I
also originally read here that exotica was about music that everyone else
no longer bothers with.  I can assure you that the TJB and BMB are very
much alive on fan sites and other music discussion forums on the web and
that therefore there are many others "bothering" with their music!

>If these bands do not qualify as "strictly" exotica, they
>were certainly extensions of the concept that originally created exotica.

As extensions of exotica, I'd give a big "maybe" to that, though I still
have my reservations about their inclusion at all.

>>Further, you qualify exotica as being jazz-ish at its base.  From what
>>I've seen talked about and mentioned on this list, Hawaiian music and
>>Tiki music are definitely exotica, but I don't consider either one a form
>>of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz".
>
>What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at
>least "jazz based"?  They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with
>something extra.  They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those
>earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz.  It's not
>bebop certainly.  It's more what I'd call "polite" jazz.  But it still
>ain't rock n roll.

I never said that those people you mention above weren't jazz based.  I
said that by your own definition, you called Exotica "jazz-ish at its
base".  I then replied that Exotica takes in Hawaiian/Tiki/Tropical music
as well--and those are certainly *not* jazz based.  Jazz means one thing
and one thing only to me--improvisation.  So, Exotica is taking in two
different worlds here--one jazz based and the other not.  Therefore, you
cannot call all of it jazz based.

I'm really not interested in splitting hairs over this or getting into
discussing different folks' musical tastes that influence what they like
& collect.  All I want is a workable definition of Exotica that is clear
about what it includes *as well as* what it excludes.  The definition as
it now stands does NOT take in everything that people have so far said is
within the realm of Exotica (school band records being a prime example).

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Comments on the Luxuria site......
Date: 06 Mar 2000 14:30:06 -0500



Snipped from Cowabunga surf newsgroup:

<<This www.luxuriamusic.com is one incredible site!  Broadband transmission=
 in all audio formats (RealAudio, QuickTime, MS whatever, MP3).  These =
guys got it figured out.  Interesting music as well (well, most of it).

Rev.>>





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher homepage
Date: 06 Mar 2000 15:23:33 EST



In a message dated 3/6/0 9:31:50 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Oh man - was that great!!!!

>Great imagination!!!

SECONDED!~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Michael Zadoorian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) NEW BOOK RELEASE TODAY!
Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:40:16 +0000


Hey Exotica folks-
Here's a press release for my just-released novel, SECOND HAND.  I
mentioned this quite a few months ago, but am mentioning it again
because it's actually happening.  In fact, today's the official
publication date.
    If you're interested in old stuff and junk culture-- objects,
clothing, music, books, etc,  you might want to read this press release
(pulled from the extremely enthusiastic jacket copy.)  Or check out my
website:
www.secondhandnovel.com.
Best,
Michael Z

Now, let the hyperbole begin!

Press Release for SECOND HAND: A Novel

At last, the novel for everyone who has ever loved something
secondhand--the High Fidelity of garage sales, the On the Road of thrift

shopping, The Moviegoer of the flea market. SECOND HAND by Michael
Zadoorian from publisher W.W. Norton & Company will be available at
booksellers on March 6.
     SECOND HAND is peppered with insight as unpretentious and
satisfying as the unexpected garage sale find. Junk, narrator Richard
tells us, "has taught me that to find new use for an object discarded is
an act of glistening
purity. I have learned that a camera case makes a damn fine purse or
that 40 copies of 'Herb Alpert & the Tijuana Brass's Whipped Cream and
Other Delights' may be used to cover a wall of a bedroom. . . . Junk has
taught me that
all will come to junk eventually, and much sooner than you think."

The book has been heralded by a diverse mix of people :

"A fine and wonderful novel about one of the most unusual of subjects:
junk, and those who care for the valuable objects, living and dead, that

others have thrown away."
-Charles Baxter, author of Believers

Zadoorian conveys the oft-overlooked beauty of cast-offs, be they vinyl
records, photographs, mismatched dinette chairs, or even people.
-Al Hoff, author of Thrift Score

"Second Hand hooked me right away--Zadoorian is a stylist with his own
sound.  He's a very entertaining writer, hip and funny."
-Elmore Leonard, author of Be Cool and Get Shorty

"Michael Zadoorian speaks to the heart and soul of the junker."
Mary Randolph Carter, author of American Junk

"A wonderful book."
Chris Jussel, host of Antiques Roadshow

For more information about SECOND HAND, including jacket copy, full
blurbs, author bio and ordering information visit:
www.secondhandnovel.com.

W.W. Norton & Co.
ISBN: 0-393-04797-0  Hardcover  $23.95
Publicity: Whitney Peeling 212.790.4267








# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hawaiian Jazz
Date: 06 Mar 2000 17:24:41 -0500



> >of music based on what is standardly known and thought of as "jazz".
>
>As long as it's been recorded, Hawaiian music has always
>been influenced by Jazz.


Seconded.  Also, thirded by Columbia Records, who included King Benny
Nawahi on their 50 Years of Jazz Guitar comp.  If you wish to split hairs,
though, I (in my limited experience) would agree that some Hawaiian musics
are influenced, as opposed to based on Jazz.

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs?
Date: 06 Mar 2000 16:28:16 -0600


Everything in the world about burning CDR's is on this FAQ and I recommend
going through it!

http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/

Here are some tips on burning CDs of Records..

You need to first start with 44.1 khz WAV files..  to do this, you will need
some software..
I use COOLEDIT.  You can get different versions of cooledit from places on
the net like www.hotfiles.com
or www.download.com.

You must have an amp or mixer because you can not hook a turntable with a
ground wire up to a computer directly!
So run the phono to your amp, and your amp to your computer using RCA to
Mini-Din (headphone size) cable.
Then you start COOLEDIT recording while you play your record. Make sure you
Line-In is set to ON and the Volume is UP (use the speaker icon to bring up
properties)

You will have to stop cooledit after each song is recorded, or if you want
to go for it, you could record and
entire album at once. I wouldn't recommend it.  Once you record each song
you just need to cut off the silence
at the beginning and end if desired and save the .WAV file to hard drive.

Then use Adaptec CD burning software to make an audio CD using those WAV
files you created.  Just name them so that they are in order like track01,
track02, etc.  Once you get that going, you can look in to software that
removes pops and clicks and static (if you so desire).

Avoiding bad CD burns...  make sure there are no other programs running on
your system before burning a CD.  Kill background tasks with Control-Alt-Del
task manager.  Make sure you have the session set to "Close CD after
finished". If you don't, you probably won't be able to read it.  You may
need to try some different brands of recordable discs.. I have had success
with Memorex and also with the Comp-USA brand which are cheap too. I hear
good things about Imation and Verbatim also.  If all else fails, your hard
disk may not be keeping up with the burner..  you might set the burn speed
down if you can.. or.. make an "image" file so that it is easier for the
hard drive to write the file to the CD burner.. check adaptec help files for
how to do that.

Hope that helps!
Zach D. -=- Radio Frank Stays Crunchy in Milk -=-
http://fc.net/~zachd/main.htm


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) How do I make CDs from LPs?
Date: 06 Mar 2000 18:48:55 -0500



>Avoiding bad CD burns...

Yeah!  What he said and also, it would also help to run defrag on your hard
drive first as well (Start - Run - Defrag) or for you Mac Folks, run Norton
Speed Disk if you have it, but make sure that your version won't wreck your
disk (MAN, do I hate Performa 6220's!) and you can use Adaptec's Toast.

Also, make sure that before you burn you have a BIG hard drive (mine is 13
GB and hey, it's how you use it that counts).  One three minute song is
about 30 MB , therefore and an album's worth of tracks can add up.

If you have a lot of scratchy records (aimless whistling and averted gazes
start NOW), then you may also wish to buy Easy CD Creator Deluxe, which has
Spin Doctor to ease over some of the rough spots, although I haven't gotten
it to perform too well just yet.

Brian Phillips







# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 07 Mar 2000 01:10:22 +0100


B.J. Major wrote:

>  I then replied that Exotica takes in Hawaiian/Tiki/Tropical music
> as well--and those are certainly *not* jazz based.

Hawaiian: Hawaiian music was Swing influenced long before the times of a Martin
Denny, but not very much present in Martin Denny's own music, as funny as this
may seem.

Tiki: What is Tiki music?

Tropical: This must be the most diverse category: Tropical is anything
Brazilian, Carribean, South-East Asian, South Seas Islandish, Indian, even
Arabian and African, Mexican. That's really not a musical category. It's a
category like "exotic".

The parallel notions of 'Exotica' and 'Primitiva' do the best job in defining
what it is all about for me. Has anyone really read this book "Exotica"? I must
admit I have given up somewhere in the first third of it. Wanna read it
entirely in my next holydays (which will hopefully bring me to the Estremadura
of Central Spain for an encounter with the most diverse and interesting *bird*
population of Europe, btw...); I think the book is the attempt to write about
Exotica as something that is defined by many things, not only musical. And I
don't know other. I think Exotica is impossible to explain if you don't include
all kinds of psychological, behaviouristic, esthetic, visual, sexual, social,
religious and what not elements. F.i.: One of the important pieces of the
mosaic of Exotica, the original meaning of it, is "the far away", "the being
outside" and, as everybody will immediately admit, this is a very relative
thing.
The idea of an exotic world is connected to the imagination of a paradise very
often - which is also relative - but it may be the reason why we tend to see
Exotica music as something soft and peaceful and "easy" instead of the hectic,
dancable, shrill, urban ways that Jazz also went. Nor cool,  rather warm.

Just some thoughts

Mo



The Moritz R Museum has got a new entrance: http://moritzR.de
#Exotica mailing list FAQ:
http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html
Also check out: http://www.poptics.de





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: CD burners
Date: 07 Mar 2000 01:11:32 +0100


Brian Karasick wrote:

>   I'm beginning to more and more
> understand (and appreciate) the Apple approach to computing. I
> hear Moritz giggling in the background!

I must admit I have cleaned my glasses before reading this a second time. It
sounds a bit like the pope talking about the advantages of contraceptives...

(giggle!) Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 07 Mar 2000 01:12:04 +0100




Nat Kone wrote:

> What would you call the sound of Martin Denny or Arthur Lyman if not at
> least "jazz based"?  They're basically cocktail jazz piano quartets with
> something extra.  They're not a whole hell of a lot different than those
> earlier "latinesque" George Shearing records which I'd call jazz.

Cal Tjader. The album Cal Tjader recorded in 1954 is like Martin Denny's
'Exotica' (1956) without the bird calls. "Mambo with Tjader" is the title.
Martin Denny was honky-tonking in Brazil at the time. All of this was covered
in an extensive thread on this list about a year (or 2?) ago. BTW: On 'Exotica
3' you hear the whole-jazz Martin Denny sound.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 06 Mar 2000 16:24:50 -0800


>B.J. Major wrote:
>
>>  I then replied that Exotica takes in Hawaiian/Tiki/Tropical music
>> as well--and those are certainly *not* jazz based.
>
>Hawaiian: Hawaiian music was Swing influenced long before the times of a
>Martin
>Denny, but not very much present in Martin Denny's own music, as funny as
>this
>may seem.

I'm not (and never was) referencing modern Hawaiian music, but
*traditional* Hawaiian music--music that existed in Hawaii long before
jazz was invented.

>Tiki: What is Tiki music?

I'm sure the people into Tiki music can answer that for you.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Incantation and Dance
Date: 06 Mar 2000 20:47:35 -0500


> we played a tune called Incantation and Dance.
> But now I can really appreciate what it was.. almost a clear cut exotica
> piece!

Boy, talk about bringing back memories.  I also played 'Incantation and Dance'
while in my high school band.  Our band director tore out much hair trying to
get a bunch of 15-16 year olds with no sense of rhythm (and who happened to be
in the percussion section) to play their parts correctly.  I played tympani on
the piece, and I loved the piece because I was encouraged to play as loud as I
could during the finale.

I remember loving 'Incantation and Dance' so much that I asked my band director
at the time whether it was available on LP anywhere.  He said that the companies
selling musical scores to high schools would often have 'sample' LPs that the
band directors could order to hear the arrangements before actually paying money
for the actual sheet music.  I went to one music store at the time and asked
about it, but got nowhere quick.

I never thought about it, but the percussion section had definite exotica
elements to it.  Here's a short audio clip I found, its performed by the
Sammamish High School Band in Bellevue, Washington, which proves a real link
between high school bands and exotica.
http://oasis.bellevue.k12.wa.us/sammamish/sounds/incantation.aiff

Perhaps my long hours in percussion class working on this piece back in 1979 was
what really initiated me into exotica - and it just remained in dormant stage
for 15 years before breaking loose again.

'Incantation and Dance' was written by a composer named John Barnes Chance in
the year 1963, so he must have definitely been influenced by the flair of
exotica flourishing at the time.  Chance was killed when electrocuted in his
backyard in 1972 (at age 40) - not quite as exotic as a lava wall falling on top
of him, but still a little bit more exciting than dying in your sleep.

More web searching found this piece of information put out by the Yale
University music department - which could be appled to half of Martin Denny's
songs also....

"The title of this piece suggests a religious orientation, but not toward any of
the established religions of  Western or Eastern culture. To the standard
deities one offers prayers.  Incantations are uttered in rituals of magic,
demonic rites, and the conjuring up of spirits both evil and benign. When the
spirit comes and the worshiper is possessed, there is wild and abandoned
dancing. The opening Incantation is full of mystery and expectation; wandering,
unstable, and without tonality. In the Dance, percussion instruments build a
rhythmic tapestry of incredible complexity and drive. The dance grows wild and
frenzied. The brass hammer out ferocious snarls and the woodwinds fly in
swirling scales. The pretty tune is abandoned to leave a paroxysm of rhythm, a
convulsion of syncopation that drives on and on, to the shattering climax of
exultation. Then the dance is over and the worshiper is fulfilled."

'Incantation and Dance ' still appears to be a popular concert piece - my web
search found many sites that showed various high school/college bands listing
the piece in their concert programs. Nice to know exotica is reaching the
unsuspecting masses in some form.

The Harvard University Wind Ensemble performed 'Incantation and Dance' last year
(1999) and has available a mp3 recording of the entire piece.  The percusiion is
definitely exotica, but I'm also reminded of Ravel's 'Bolero' listening to the
piece 20 years later.
http://hcs.harvard.edu/~hwe/sound.html

And if you want an actual CD recording of 'Incantation and Dance', you  can
order it from this site -- it's a Norwegian site, which somehow seems
appropriate in this world-wide ever-expanding love of exotica influences.
http://hjemmesider.gs.bergen.hl.no/~khe22/NM-CD1998.html

I can't believe I got so excited about hearing about 'Incantation and Dance'
that I found all this info to share with you all

Vern




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mr. Fodder" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 03/06
Date: 06 Mar 2000 17:46:12 -0800


Week of 03/06/00

The Friendly Persuasion Show

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet
Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to
hear:

1.  The Peanuts - Tintarella Di Luna
2.  Mrs. Miller - These Boots Are Made For Walkin'
3.  Bambi & The Boys - Double Agent Double D
4.  Big Mess Orchestra - More Than a Feeling
5.  Julie London - Yummy, Yummy, Yummy
6.  Charles Wilp - Close-Up
7.  Bette Davis - Turn Me Loose On Broadway
8.  Jean Jacques-Perrey - Gossipo Perpetuo
9.  The Arrogant Worms - Great to be a Nerd
10.  Big Mess Orchestra - Smoke on the Water
11.  Jean Nidetch - The Magic of Weight Watchers (song #1)
12.  Tom Jones - Looking Out My Window
13.  Screamin' Jay Hawkins - I Put a Spell On You
14.  Jimmy Durante - Were Going UFO'ing
15.  Jean Nidetch - The Magic of Weight Watchers (song #2)
16.  Miki Obat A & The Outcast - Jane, Jane
17.  Martin Denny with the Randy Horne Singers - Mumba!
18.  The Polynesians - Tahitian Festival
19.  Free Design - Kites are Fun
20.  Paul Frees & The Poster People - The Look of Love (Boris Karloff)
21.  Buck Ritchey - The Slave
22.  Mother Goose with a Beatle Beat - Old King Cole
23.  Victor Lundberg - An Open Letter To My Teenage Son
24.  Brandon Wade - Letter From a Teenage Son
25.  Claudine Longet - Golden Slumbers


Chow,

Otis

Mr. Otis F-Odder
[e-mail]
www.thebranflakes.com
Box 21104, Seattle, WA 98111 USA
Cool & Strange Music Magazine - www.coolandstrange.com
Antenna Internet Radio - www.antennaradio.com




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) F&T!
Date: 07 Mar 2000 13:54:12 +1100


I've forwarded (some!) of your comments on to Scott, and we'll powwow soon
about the F&T site.  Thanks for all of your input!!!!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jim Gerwitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Screamin Jay in TJ
Date: 06 Mar 2000 19:45:57 -0800



Fathered "roughly" 57 kids? So that's why they called him Screamin Jay.
Sounds like a good question for "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" Check
out his last film appearance in "Dance with the Devil" (aka Perdita
Durango). A small role as buddy to Santeria priest/maniacal killer
Javier "Romeo" Barden. This movie will be a cult classic - pounding
border music with Rosie Perez and Romeo lowriding through Tijuana
bopping to the TJB's "Spanish Flea" as they look for someone to kidnap
and murder in a blood ceremony. Pre-Sopranos James Gandolfini is a cop
who acts like Tony S. when he's being good and taking his Prozac.  Jay
helps out with the chickens in the big Santeria ritual scene, but does
look a bit tired. No wonder....Unrated DVD highly recommended.
And I have a CD that skips during his "Constipation Blues,"  no shit....


Little Jimmy Hawkins, #23 son


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Great News!!!!!
Date: 06 Mar 2000 22:53:25 -0500


Keith wrote:

>I'd like to ask any of you who dig the Grand Twins of the Twin Grands what
>you'd love to see on the site...

Don't neglect the "late" F&T!!

_Classical Disco_ is right up there in my personal Top Twenty.

And you really will need their amazing cover photos from _Star Wars_.
Yow, where did they get those outfits? (Not to mention the bad
toupees.)

Happy to scan if needed.

cheers,
  --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #642
Date: 07 Mar 2000 13:49:02 +1100



>The definition as
>it now stands does NOT take in everything that people have so far said is
>within the realm of Exotica (school band records being a prime example).
>
>Regards,
>- --bj

If this list was Exotica Proper, and nothing but, there's absolutely NO WAY
I'd be staying on the list....it's eclecticism matches my own and that's why
I cherish it!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What is Tiki music? (was: Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 11:17:33 +0100


B.J. Major wrote:

> >Tiki: What is Tiki music?
>
> I'm sure the people into Tiki music can answer that for you.

I don't think so. Let's check it out! So, people:

WHAT IS TIKI MUSIC?

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) I'll Drink to That!
Date: 07 Mar 2000 06:57:38


I'm assembling a list of cocktail-related tunes and albums for a new
listener's guide page on the Space Age Pop website--things like "Cugie's
Cocktails," Pete Candoli's "Moscow Mule and Many More Kicks," where all the
tunes are named for some kind of drink.

Any suggestions list members want to offer will be greatly appreciated ...
hic!

Brad


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Issues
Date: 07 Mar 2000 08:47:00 -0500


At 09:33 AM 3/6/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>
> Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation.

Well maybe that's the problem.  Or the tip of the iceberg anyway.
When I first got into jazz, on my way to becoming a huge jazz snob, my jazz
musician friends said something similar to what you're saying.
I liked the idea that it was true but I never quite believed it.
Jazz is not all about improvisation.
Not even bebop, which is more about improvisation, is ALL about improvisation.

But if that's how you see it, that might explain why we're having
difficulty coming up with an agreement on what constitutes exotica.

I believe that most of the musicians who created exotica, saw themselves a
jazz musicians.  It's probably true that they saw themselves more in the
jazz tradition of Duke Ellington than that of Charlie Parker.  It's also
probably true that many of them would have had difficulty being accepted as
jazz musicians.  They just didn't have the chops.
But just because they couldn't cut it as jazz musicians, doesn't change the
fact that for many of them, their training and background was in jazz.
This might be more true for "lounge" and/or "space age bachelor pad music"
but I tend to believe that it extends to exotica.
I'm sure Martin Denny and his band saw themselves as jazz musicians and
though I can't be quite so sure for Les Baxter, I suspect he saw himself
as, at the very least, a jazz arranger.
And the very fact that there is such a thing as a jazz arranger,
contributes to my feeling that jazz is not all about improvisation.

Putting that all aside, if you don't want to split hairs, don't.  But I
think that a discussion - or even an argument - about what constitutes
exotica is entirely appropriate for a list like this one.
I say the Baja Marimba Band is close enough to exotica to at least merit a
mention in a list of "exotica-related" musicians.  (I also say the same
thing about Los Indios Tabajaras by the way.  And Santo and Johnny too.)

I don't think exotica means all the music that everyone else ignores.  I
think that's not a bad explanation for what this list is about but this
list is not just about exotica.

Nat






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Screamin Jay in TJ
Date: 07 Mar 2000 12:35:49 EST



In a message dated 3/6/0 10:47:42 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Fathered "roughly" 57 kids? So that's why they called him Screamin Jay.
>Sounds like a good question for "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?"

Reminds me of a legendary student Romeo from the highschool where I teach.
His name was Sherman. They call him "Sherm The Sperm". He never did learn to
add or subtract, but he sure could multiply...JB/true story


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) What is Tiki music? (was: Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 12:37:18 EST



In a message dated 3/7/0 5:21:09 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>WHAT IS TIKI MUSIC?

The sound of two tikis knockin' boots 'round midnight...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 10:16:47 -0800


>At 09:33 AM 3/6/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>>
>> Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation.
>
>Well maybe that's the problem.  Or the tip of the iceberg anyway.
>When I first got into jazz, on my way to becoming a huge jazz snob, my jazz
>musician friends said something similar to what you're saying.
>I liked the idea that it was true but I never quite believed it.
>Jazz is not all about improvisation.

Then please enlighten us ALL and favor us with what your complete
definition of jazz is.  If the music in question does not include
improvisation on a melody, it's simply not jazz, period.  I don't want to
be a snob about this myself, but I was a music major in college and I am
very familiar with the definition of different forms of music and what
constitutes them.  If your jazz musician friends were telling you what
I'm telling you (i.e., the same thing), there must be a reason for that!

>It's also
>probably true that many of them would have had difficulty being accepted as
>jazz musicians.  They just didn't have the chops.

I found out a long time ago that "people who just don't have the chops"
can't survive in the jazz world, period.  No way, no how.  You must be
able to improvise and do it fluently.  So you can't call these people
"jazz musicians" in that sense, because they left jazz/didn't go into
jazz (because of their lack of chops) and went off and did something else
(create Exotica).  It's no shame, there are plenty of good solid
musicians out there who are well trained in music, play their respective
instruments as pros, but cannot improvise.  It's a special gift to be
able to do that (AFAIC), just as all musicians are not all composers,
arrangers, or those who can simply play by ear.

>And the very fact that there is such a thing as a jazz arranger,
>contributes to my feeling that jazz is not all about improvisation.

A jazz arranger can lay out a piece for a group to play, but I assure you
that the improvisation part is NOT charted.  It's left blank, sometimes
with an indication of how many bars for the soloist to play, sometimes
not.  When the improv is over, reading the arrangement on the charts
resumes.

> But I
>think that a discussion - or even an argument - about what constitutes
>exotica is entirely appropriate for a list like this one.

If even two people can't agree on what constitutes Exotica, no conclusion
will be reached and Exotica will just remain undefined.  Which might be
ok for some people but not for others.  Personally, I don't see why a
category of music like Exotica has to/should contain almost 'everything
but the kitchen sink'.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 14:30:31 EST


John Tesh was being interviewed and he said something to the effect of' "If
you play it right it's music and if you make a mistake you call it Jazz" (And
he can't figure out why people hate him).

Also coming out of the fog in my brain is the story about a famous jazz
musician who was asked, "What is Jazz?" and he replied, "If you've got to
ask, you'll never know".



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mystery Tune???
Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:05:41 -0500


Please tune in to the following link and click on "Break Beats."

The very first song is listed as Buscemi's "Yves Eaux" but the tune sounds =
different here than on the Amazon site where you can hear a 30 sec. clip =
of that same song.

This' a great song with phone sex dialog looped over the rhythms.....

Who is that band?

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Karla Pundit......
Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:07:36 -0500


Is that CD "Journey to the Ancient City" a full-length (60 or so minutes) =
recording??  There's only like 6-7 songs listed.........

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) place your hands on your head and step away from the
Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:45:40 -0500


A friendly, but stern lecture from our pals at the RIAA:

http://www.riaa.com/tech/tech_ht.htm##_top

No mention that the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (already passed, slowly
blossoming its scary implications) may eventually rollback our rights to
analog copying also.


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RIAA (was put your hands on your head...)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 14:05:26 -0800


>A friendly, but stern lecture from our pals at the RIAA:
>
>http://www.riaa.com/tech/tech_ht.htm##_top
>
>No mention that the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (already passed, slowly
>blossoming its scary implications) may eventually rollback our rights to
>analog copying also.

I am all for having people get paid for their work and I have never
attempted to sell a "copy" of anything, but only the original.  So this
part of the RIAA site particularly annoyed me:

>Second, again for your personal use, you can make some digital copies of
>music, depending on the type of digital recorder used. For example,
>digitally copying music is generally allowed with mini-disc recorders,
>digital audio tape (DAT) recorders, digital cassette tape recorders and
>some (but not all) compact disc recorders (or CD-R recorders). As a
>general rule for CD-Rs, if the CD-R recorder is a stand-alone machine
>designed to copy primarily audio, rather than data or video, then the
>copying is allowed. If the CD-R recorder is a computer component, or a
>computer peripheral device designed to be a multi-purpose recorder (in
>other words, if it will record data and video as well as audio), then
>copying is not allowed.

No one told me when I got my CD-R for my computer that I was not
"allowed" to burn CDs of my home LP library (that have never seen the
light of day on CD release themselves).

And the paragraph that follows this is supposed to make people gleefully
purchase stand-alone machines that connect to one's home stereo.  But
there is hidden cost in those machines to cover the "royalties"
mentioned; i.e., those blank "audio only" CD-Rs cost anywhere from $2 to
$7.00 A PIECE more than CD-R blanks for a computer system.

Having to pay a combined fee of over $700.00 per year to ASCAP & BMI for
mp3 file hosting is already a huge sum of money for anyone who runs a
not-for-profit site that was created with their own materials and
maintained in their own spare time.  Now to know that I can't legally
make CD-Rs of my LP collection on my computer is but the icing on the
cake...

In the words of Charlie Brown, "Good grief!..."

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 17:46:28 -0500


At 10:16 AM 3/7/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>
>Then please enlighten us ALL and favor us with what your complete
>definition of jazz is.  If the music in question does not include
>improvisation on a melody, it's simply not jazz, period.

(Hey this discussion is not closed to the two of us and I'm not going to
take it offlist!)

If a musician tells me they never play a song the same way twice - and many
have - I recognize that as a form of improvisation but not the highest form.
Improvisation occurs in all kinds of music.  The question is whether that
improvisation defines the music or is simply an aspect of it.  Some jazz is
more defined by improvisation and some is less defined by it.
When I hear a band like Ellington's playing an arranged tune, the music is
not defined by the solos a few members take.  And it's not defined by the
"liberties" some musicians may take with their assigned parts.
I like all that.  And I listen to a fair bit of jazz with less structure,
less arrangement and more improvisation.
But when I listen to jazz, I'm in the mood for a certain spirit, a certain
sound, a certain approach to harmony and arrangement and rhythm, none of
which I can actually speak of in musical terms.  But I think I recognize it
when I hear it.
If you want to tell me that the spirit of improvisation was a central
factor in the creation of this music and that the influence is discernible
even when precious little improvisation is occurring, I'll accept that.
But that's a far cry from accepting that improvisation is what defines jazz.

Once upon a time I was a rock and folk and blues guy.  Then I started to
listen to jazz.  I think that one of the ways that I made the transition
was that I was one of those guys who liked those long long rock solos -
except bass solos of course - and this was like the greatest "solo-taking"
music ever .
At first I may have been there for a certain vibe that seems to come with
heavily improvised music.  And I listened to a very narrow category of
jazz.  Mostly Coltrane and stuff that reminded me of Coltrane.
But then I'd be at someone's house and they'd be playing a vocal version of
"You don't know what love is" and I'd think "Hey I know this tune".
And gradually I realized that I may have come for the improv but in the
meantime, I'd developed a taste for a whole bunch of classic tunes.
And little by little, I realized that I could enjoy those tunes and others,
with or without the soloing or improvisation.
This was the beginning of my ever-expanding taste for instrumental music.
The only obstacle left to conquer was developing an appreciation of
arrangement and an ability to enjoy that, with or without overt soloing.
When that happened, the floodgates burst and they're still bursting.

What does this have to do with anything?  I'm not sure.
But the way I look at instrumental music, there are basically two kinds.
Light jazz and light classical.  (I'm not sure where I'd include "pop" and
don't ask me where polka comes in.)
Dick Hyman for instance, was a bona fide jazz musician who shows up on a
surprising number of "real jazz" records.  I wouldn't call his organ
records on Command, "jazz" but I hear the jazz roots in them.
I hear jazz in "lounge".  I hear it in "Western Swing" too.
When I was a bebop snob, I hated "big band" music.  And I still don't love
it.  But I listen to music all the time that basically fits that category.
And maybe I still have a problem calling it "jazz" but I know that there's
jazz in there somewhere.
Same with Martin Denny.  Same goes twice over for Arthur Lyman.

As far as what constitutes "exotica" - as opposed to what this list covers
- I think Moritz said it pretty well when he talked about a dream of
faraway places.  Or at least I think that's what he said.
A dream of faraway places where life is simpler, even a bit more
"primitive".  A place where people are more "real".  A place to escape the
"hustle and bustle" and just listen to the wind in the trees.
But exotica, to me, is not really all that.  It's music that "suggests" all
that.  It's someone's VERSION of all that.
That's what I like about it.  The interpretation going on.  The attempt -
which to me is almost by definition, unsuccessful - to combine that with
"western" forms like jazz and pop.
That's the same reason I like "psychedelic" music, especially bad
psychedelic music.
I hear it in the Baja Marimba Band.  I'm in Mexico hiding out with Billy
the Kid or the men of the Magnificent Seven and we're drinking and whoring
and kicking back and enjoying the simple pleasures of a place where life is
cheap, your "girlfriend" looks like Rita Coolidge and every moment you're
wondering if she's going to cut your throat as you sleep.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mark Renwick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 17:55:39 -0500


BJ and others,

If someone transcribes to paper a recording of a jazz solo
and then performs the solo so well that no one can tell that

it's not being improvised on the spot, is that jazz?  It
sounds like jazz, but it's not being improvised.  Does the
word "jazz" denote the style of music or the means of
production (e.g., improvization vs. reading)?

--Mark Renwick
  Jacksonville, Florida, USA
  [e-mail]
  http://home.att.net/~tibia




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 15:54:24 -0800


>BJ and others,
>
>If someone transcribes to paper a recording of a jazz solo
>and then performs the solo so well that no one can tell that
>
>it's not being improvised on the spot, is that jazz?  It
>sounds like jazz, but it's not being improvised.  Does the
>word "jazz" denote the style of music or the means of
>production (e.g., improvization vs. reading)?
>
>--Mark Renwick
>  Jacksonville, Florida, USA
>  [e-mail]
>  http://home.att.net/~tibia

Mark:  as you can see, people's opinions on this vary, but from what I
was taught, "what is" jazz is not found on transcribed "notes on a page"
(to quote Mr. Holland's Opus).  It's the improvisational creation on the
spur of the moment around the melody and (sometimes unfortunately)
there's no limit to how long it can go on.  While it's probably happened
lots of times that an improvised solo was so popular it was "copied" an
another performance by another musician, that in and of itself doesn't
constitute the essence of jazz because the newer musician didn't create
the solo himself.

So, to answer your last question, I was taught that jazz denotes the
means of production (i.e., improvising).

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune???
Date: 07 Mar 2000 19:49:18 -0500


Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Please tune in to the following link and click on "Break Beats."

Where's the link??  I want to hear this piece!

cheryl


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune???
Date: 07 Mar 2000 19:54:23 -0500


At 3:05 PM -0500 3/7/00, Nathan Miner wrote:
>Please tune in to the following link and click on "Break Beats."
>
>The very first song is listed as Buscemi's "Yves Eaux" but the tune sounds
>different here than on the Amazon site where you can hear a 30 sec. clip
>of that same song.
>
>This' a great song with phone sex dialog looped over the rhythms.....
>
>Who is that band?

You answered it yourself - the "band" is called Buscemi; they're (he's)
from Belgium. 1 album out, 3 12" singles. Almost all the tracks on the
singles, including "Yves Eaux", are on the album. The stuff ranges from
dreamy trip hop to slamming jungle to.....uh, I hate to bring it up now,
jazz.


Speaking of jazz - -  at the weekly electronic music event that I host
called "Solaris", we often have a form of electronic music known as 'Live
P.A.'. When these artists appear, they perform live electronic dance music,
be it techno or trance or d 'n b or house or whathaveyou. They bring down
synthesizers, both analog and digital, drum machines, power books, mixers,
etc,.......and then they instantaneously create electronic music. For the
most part, it is improvised. Does this make it jazz? What about the new
wave of electronic jazz artists, mostly coming out of Germany these days,
such as Jazzanova, Rainer Truby Trio, Da Lata, et al, or the digital bossa
novas of Fantastic Plastic Machine, Balanco, Nicole Conte, Montefiori
Cocktail and others?

In the United States these days, the definition of jazz is a style of music
played in expensive clubs to overeducated (mostly white) audiences who
listen to too much NPR. It has lost touch with its roots - it was born as
dance music, in honky tonks, turpentine farms, and bordellos. When it got
funky in the late '60's (and went back to being dance music in nightclubs),
it's new style was rejected by the jazz establishment (those records now
command top dollar, but only after being rediscovered by the Acid Jazz
scenesters in Britain a decade or so ago). Ah, but don't start
me.............

My point is that what is termed jazz is an ever changing form, just like
rock has been for the last 50 years (if someone can show me the
similarities between, say, Everlast and Chuck Berry, I'd love to hear it).
You just have to look at the various roots. The majority of SABP artists,
for example, came out of the big band era (don't forget, Esquivel's records
were made with 26 pieces - - that's a big band!). Nat made an excellent
correlation between Denny and George Shearing which was right on the money.
I guess the roots of that would be the cocktail lounge jazz of the 30's and
40's, itself  a more compact unit of the 'sweet band' sound of the 20's
(i.e. Paul Whiteman, Guy Lombardo - - who in turn begat Montovani, Lawrence
Welk, etc etc). Dick Hyman wailing away for 16 measures of  "The
Liquidator" is as much jazz as is Coltrane blowing 128 measures of 'My
Favorite Things'. There are modal scales applied in both, variations on a
theme, upper structured triads, 9ths 11ths 13ths, etc etc etc..............

Sweet, swing, western swing, bop, hard bop, post bop, fusion, west coast,
crime, funk, latin, brazillian, boogie woogie, free, smoov,
acid........yeah, it's a lot of things. It's King Oliver and Henry Mancini,
Charles Mingus and Wynton Marsalis,  Albert Ayler and Kenny G.

btw, check out the new album by Luke Vibert and BJ Cole - "Stop The Panic"
(Astralwerks), for some real cross pollination. A mix of synths, loops and
samples with steel guitars, fiddles, mandolins, sort of a hybrid of hip hop
with western swing and bluegrass. I can only use 1 word to describe it:
Exotic!

cheers,
br cleve, berklee collidge of music dropout


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 02:08:02 +0100


B.J. Major wrote:

>Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation.
 >If the music in question does not include improvisation on a melody, it's
simply not jazz,
>period.
>A jazz arranger can lay out a piece for a group to play, but I assure you
>that the improvisation part is NOT charted.  It's left blank, sometimes
>with an indication of how many bars for the soloist to play, sometimes
>not.  When the improv is over, reading the arrangement on the charts
>resumes.

 I just started to read Joachim-Ernst Berendt's 'Jazzbook' (the guy who died
recently) and he says a very similar thing. He also claims, it is the common
way to define Jazz. He calls improvisation a basic element of Jazz; but he also
talks about a type of musicians who live intensly in their times and very much
reflect life as they feel it in their music. Although white musicians have been
in Jazz from the early days on, there is a specific basic black element that I
cannot seperate from my imagination of Jazz. We talked about a similar subject
some weeks ago during a thread about Pop and I think it was Brian Phillips who
spoke of two parties of music listeners, the
"can't-seperate-pop-from-racial-issues's" and the "yes-you-can's". After seeing
this documentary about the literal war that the US government had waged against
the black panthers (and other dissidents) I think I know what Brian meant. If
you knew some things, you could not anymore pretend you're innocent. And at
least until the 70s I believe these issues were still vital. At exactely about
the time when the afroamericans got substantially more rights in society
finally, the decline of Jazz started, at least that's what I think. Why I'm
saying this? Because I think there are no mono-causal definitions neither for
Pop, nor Jazz, nor Exotica. And of course there are no sharp lines seperating
music styles from one another.

Nat Kone wrote:

> But when I listen to jazz, I'm in the mood for a certain spirit, a certain
> sound, a certain approach to harmony and arrangement and rhythm, none of
> which I can actually speak of in musical terms.  But I think I recognize it
> when I hear it.
> If you want to tell me that the spirit of improvisation was a central
> factor in the creation of this music and that the influence is discernible
> even when precious little improvisation is occurring, I'll accept that.

I guess, wether by improvisation, or by arrangement, the expression of Jazz had
to be just right. It reflected the state of life at any given moment. When the
fight increased, free form increased, the music became more dissonant, as in
resisting to entertain, being uncomfortable, and so on.

> A dream of faraway places where life is simpler, even a bit more
> "primitive".  A place where people are more "real".  A place to escape the
> "hustle and bustle" and just listen to the wind in the trees.

Exactely. Somehow I see 'real' jazz, as opposed to Exotica, more on the "fight
for a better life" side. But there certainly were very romantic things too and
those point directly into the exotica direction. I mean, still, even if you
were performing romantic feelings, it makes a difference, wether you knew hard
times with no place for romanticism or wether you were used to freedoms and
wealth all the time, because you were priviliged. In that case you were a
perfect victim for a music that more or less emotionless repeated standardised
patterns. The latter is what makes a lot of easy listening stuff unenjoyable to
me, even if it is perfectly arranged. The perfection turns into something you
mistrust, an all-too-persuasive lie. You could say, there is no jazz in it.

> But exotica, to me, is not really all that.  It's music that "suggests" all
> that.  It's someone's VERSION of all that.
> That's what I like about it.  The interpretation going on.  The attempt -
> which to me is almost by definition, unsuccessful - to combine that with
> "western" forms like jazz and pop.

Yeah, sounds like a definition of "camp" to me... Don't you find diverse
interpretations of the genre in all styles? That's not a typical thing for
Exotica. It's in Jazz, it's in Rock. Maybe it even was in classical music and
we just don't know it anymore. The question is: What is the notion of the
referring genre? Is there something like a common dream in Jazz? In Rock it
would be something like 'power'. In Exotica maybe the paradise. A paradise for
those who could afford it; for those who had to fight, Exotica may have been a
ridiculous kind of escapism and giving up yourself.

> That's the same reason I like "psychedelic" music, especially bad
> psychedelic music.
> I hear it in the Baja Marimba Band.  I'm in Mexico hiding out with Billy
> the Kid or the men of the Magnificent Seven and we're drinking and whoring
> and kicking back and enjoying the simple pleasures of a place where life is
> cheap, your "girlfriend" looks like Rita Coolidge and every moment you're
> wondering if she's going to cut your throat as you sleep.

That's your dream, isn't it?

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bruce, can I borrow your Theremin?
Date: 07 Mar 2000 17:09:53 -0800




Our own Bruce Lenkei is the winner of Luxuriamusic.com's Theremin giveaway.

OoooEEEeoooooOOOOOO!

Ron


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 20:19:38 EST



In a message dated 3/7/0 5:56:20 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>If someone transcribes to paper a recording of a jazz solo
>and then performs the solo so well that no one can tell that
>it's not being improvised on the spot, is that jazz?

That's what Supersax did...Transcribed Charlie Parker solos, harmonized the
parts and sang 'em...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mark Renwick <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 21:36:26 -0500


> While it's probably happened
> lots of times that an improvised solo was so popular it was "copied" an
> another performance by another musician, that in and of itself doesn't
> constitute the essence of jazz because the newer musician didn't create
> the solo himself.
>
So perhaps we can say that the recreated solo is not jazz,
itself, but that it is "jazzy" or in a jazz style.  I'm a
theatre organist by avocation, and I play some jazzy
arrangements of my own concoction.  But I'm the first to say
I'm NOT a jazz organist, because I can't improvise very well
on the spot.

I think we can draw a distinction between jazz and jazz
style.

--Mark Renwick
  Jacksonville, Florida, USA
  [e-mail]
  http://home.att.net/~tibia




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Is this considered Exotica? (humor)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 19:57:21 -0800


Anyone who is ready for a good laugh right about now, go to this site:

Jammin' Johns Toilet Seats:

http://www.leeps.com/jammin.htm

As the site says:  "It's More Than Just Bathroom Humor. It's Music to
Your Rear!"

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) If you gotta ask...
Date: 07 Mar 2000 21:01:15 -0800


 The story goes that Louis Armstrong was asked by a lady to describe jazz and he replied "Lady, if you gotta ask, you'll never know!" It's probably apocryphal but it's still great.

  Then, of course, there's the time one of the fellows in Jelly Roll Morton's Hot Peppers was greatly diverging from what Jelly had written. Jelly took a huge pistol out of his coat pocket, laid it  on top of the piano and turning to the offending musician said "Just play it the way I wrote it."

  ~~ Paul


MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime!
http://www.mailcity.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 21:50:06 -0800


OK, to answer the question

>What is Tiki Music?

Asked earlier today on this list, I can definitely say that I've found
it.  What?  You say that Tiki music doesn't exist?  Not true!!!

Anyone ever been to Disneyland or Walt Disney World's Enchanted Tiki
Room? Once upon a time I had the entire soundtrack of this attraction
from beginning to end (on LP).  Now I have just the original (sung) theme
song on a Disney Park "Official Album" CD.  Remember that theme?  I made
an mp3 of it, but I've got nowhere to upload it to at the moment that
will accept files of this size (1.2 meg).

However, I found a site that has short clips from the music (though not
the entire theme) as well as nice facts, plenty of tiki photos from the
area, and a "virtual visit" of the attraction:

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/1877/friendsoftiki.html

All together now:  "in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki
tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!"

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did)
Date: 07 Mar 2000 23:00:27 -0800


"B.J. Major" wrote:
> >What is Tiki Music?
>
> Asked earlier today on this list, I can definitely say that I've found
> it.  What?  You say that Tiki music doesn't exist?  Not true!!!
>
> Anyone ever been to Disneyland or Walt Disney World's Enchanted Tiki
> Room?

> All together now:  "in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
> in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!"


I find it ironic that the theme for the enchanted Tiki room has
absolutely nothing to do with exotica and "real" tiki music, except the
name of course. Or, at least that's what I think.  Still, a cool place
to hang out...

-Kevin

--
***********************************************************
*     Kevin Crossman           [e-mail]            *
*   http://www.kevdo.com  - The Narrow Interest Portal    *
*  Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive  *
***********************************************************


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz?
Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:02:18 +0000


I found Ben Sidran's 'Black Talk' book on this subject to be a very
interesting and helpful read. Can wholeheartedly recommend it.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 13:33:21 +0100


B.J. Major wrote:

> I've found it.

OK, you win; that IS tiki music!

> However, I found a site that has short clips from the music (though not
> the entire theme) as well as nice facts, plenty of tiki photos from the
> area, and a "virtual visit" of the attraction:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/1877/friendsoftiki.html

The site of Chris Wingert who has been organizing a campaign against the
closure of the Enchanted Tiki Rooms for years. It's possible, that the Tiki
room would already be history without Wingert. I have posted this site 2 or 3
times here and I call everyone again to sign the petition.

> All together now:  "in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
> in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!"

Yeah! ...in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki
tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!
welcome to a tropical hide-away, you lucky people you!....
in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki
tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in
the tiki
tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in
the tiki
tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in
the tiki
tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!!!!!!!!!!!

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "antonio iba±ez" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: [Supersuckers]: [The Weatherman Tells It Like It Is] (fwd)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 13:42:36 CET


A dude from other list sent me this interesting essay...

>From: Damon Palyka <[e-mail]>
>Reply-To: [e-mail]
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: [Supersuckers]: [The Weatherman Tells It Like It Is] (fwd)
>Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:07:07 -0500
>
> > If you always suspected that CDs were a scam, read on -
> >
> > Courtesy of Negativland, who'll be in Pontiac on Thursday April 13th
> > at Clutch Cargo's.
> >
> > __________________________________________
> >
> > SHINY, ALUMINUM, PLASTIC,  AND DIGITAL
> >   by Negativland
> >
> > Reproduction of this essay is strongly encouraged.
> >
> > So, why is that new "Oasis" CD so expensive?
> >
> > In the early eighties, sales of vinyl, cassettes, turntables and
> > cassette players were "flat". This means that sales were stable, not
> > rising or falling. For the makers of all this hardware and software,
> > that wasn't quite good enough. They needed a new angle. A new way to
> > sell music and the stuff you play it on. Luckily, someone at the
> > Phillips Corporation (owner of PolyGram Music and Island Records and
> > one of the worlds top defense contractors) had the bright idea that
> > it would be good for their stockholders and investors if they could
> > get the music consuming public excited about buying music again by
> > introducing a new format and a new machine to play it on (i.e. how
> > can you convince that aging baby boomer to buy yet another copy of
> > DEJA VU by Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young when they already have one?)
> >
> > Thus was born THE COMPACT DISC in all it's shiny, aluminum, plastic
> > and digital glory. It's maximum playing time, about 75 minutes, was
> > chosen because the president of the company wanted something that
> > could play his favorite piece of music, Beethoven's 9th Symphony, all
> > the way through without stopping.
> >   Well, compact discs weren't as successful as they had hoped. For one
> > thing, their price was too high. The higher price was blamed both on
> > the fact that they were mostly being made in Japan and that they had
> > a high defect rate, with approximately one out of every three discs
> > being tossed out before even leaving the CD factory. Early on, the
> > economics of this led to an industry wide decision to continue paying
> > recording artists a royalty rate based on the sale price of vinyl
> > instead of the higher sale price of compact discs. And nobody was
> > buying those new CD players either, because they were just too darned
> > expensive.
> >   But then, in the spring of 1989, something wonderful happened for
> > the music industry. Everything changed! Almost overnight, CD's were
> > everywhere! Suddenly they were a huge success and suddenly it became
> > almost impossible to get anything on vinyl at all..
> >
> > This change must have occurred because it was what the consumer
> > wanted.....right? We live in a market-driven economy and the market
> > was demanding more compact discs.....right?
> >
> > Wrong. What actually happened was this - a flexible return policy had
> > always existed between record stores and the seven major
> > distributors, i.e. stores could "buy" something from a distributor,
> > and if it didn't sell, they could return it. This allowed stores to
> > take more chances on new releases or on things they were not so
> > familiar with, because if it didn't sell, they could always send it
> > back. Well, in the spring of 1989 all seven major label distributors
> > announced that they would no longer accept "returns" on vinyl and
> > they also began deleting much of the vinyl versions of their back
> > catalog. These actions literally forced record stores to stop
> > carrying vinyl. They could not afford the financial risk of carrying
> > those releases that were on vinyl because if they didn't sell they
> > would be stuck with them. Very quickly almost all record stores had
> > to convert to CD's. The net effect of this was that the consumer no
> > longer had a choice because the choice had been made for us. High
> > priced compact discs were being shoved down our throats, whether we
> > knew it or liked it or not.
> >
> > As we mentioned earlier, record labels were paying artists a royalty
> > rate on sales of CD's based upon the $8.98 or $9.98 list price of
> > vinyl (or achieved the same end result by using contractual tricks
> > like "packaging deductions"). As CD's took over and the majors all
> > acquired their own domestic CD pressing plants and the defect rate
> > dropped to almost zero, the cost of manufacturing compact discs
> > dropped dramatically as well. One would have expected the price of
> > CD's to also drop and for the profits to now be split evenly and
> > fairly with the musicians who were making all the music.
> >
> > This, of course, never happened. CD prices have continued to rise to
> > a now unbelievable $16.98 list price (soon to be $17.98!) while
> > manufacturing costs have now dropped to less than it costs to
> > manufacture a $9.98 vinyl release. A CD, with its plastic jewel box,
> > printed booklet and tray card now costs a major label about 80 cents
> > each to make (or less) and a small independent label between $1.50
> > and $2.50. Meaning that CD's should now cost the consumer less than
> > their original prices over a decade ago, not more. But the music
> > business got consumers used to the idea of paying the higher price
> > and the labels got used to the idea of their higher profit margin,
> > and record labels continue to this day to pay almost all artists a
> > royalty rate as if they're selling CD's for the list price of vinyl.
> > That extra 4 or 5 or 6 bucks goes right into the pockets of the
> > record labels. It is not shared with musicians. And of course, we all
> > had to go out and buy a CD player (which had mysteriously dropped to
> > a more reasonable price) if we wanted to hear any of the music on
> > this "popular" new format. So, all in all, it's no wonder that the
> > record industry and stereo manufacturers loved the compact disc. In
> > fact the following year (when our economy was in a recession) the
> > music industry had its biggest profits, ever!
> >
> > If any of this bothers you as much as it does us, then you might be
> > wondering why you've never heard about any of this or why no
> > anti-trust action was ever taken against major labels and
> > distributors. The answer to this is quite simple. Most of the
> > reporting on the inner workings of the record business comes from the
> > music press and the music press is almost totally reliant on the
> > advertising dollars and good will of the business that they're
> > writing about. So, in the interest of not wanting to "rock the boat"
> > or anger the folks who essentially bankroll their publishing
> > ventures, this story would, and will continue to remain, unreported.
> > And with the coming "popularity" of DVD, the music industry looks
> > like it is ready to try the same tricks all over again.
> >
> > -Negativland
> >
> > 1920 Monument Blvd., MF-1 Concord CA. 94520. fax [phone] Web
> > site and e-mail - http://www.negativland.com
> >
> >
> > --
> > - Colin
>
>---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
>
>
>
>----> all opposing viewpoints are bigoted <-----
>-------------->www.thejealoustype.com<-------------
>

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune???
Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:39:24 -0500


Did I forget to send the link to that song with the phone sex overdubs??

Here 'tis:

http://www.parco-city.co.jp/shibuya-fm/ondemand.html

Click on "Break Beats" at the menu selections......

And thanks for the responses - possibly this song is a bit different on a =
single than the album.  The Amazon song clip is definitely different =
(well, from the 30 seconds that you get to hear anything anyway!!!).

I love this list!....

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune???
Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:42:30 -0500


Br Cleve and Exoticats:

Just wanted to mention also that that "mystery tune" which turns out to be =
Buscemi - also features that "Conoid Project" stuff - namely a sound clip =
of a gal saying 52, 53, 54, 55, 56................

So br cleve, "Yves Eaux" is definitely that "phone sex" song???  'Cause I =
want to order it.........

Best -

Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Pee Wee King
Date: 08 Mar 2000 10:22:38 -0500


    LOUISVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Frank ``Pee Wee'' King, who co-wrote the
``Tennessee Waltz'' and helped introduced several instruments and
musical styles to the Grand Ole Opry, died Tuesday. He was 86.
    King had been hospitalized after suffering a heart attack Feb.
28.
    Born Julius Frank Anthony Kuczynski in Abrams, Wis., King wrote
``Tennessee Waltz'' with fellow band member Redd Stewart in 1947.
The two said they wrote it on an unfolded matchbox as they were
riding in Stewart's truck.
    While King's recording did well, a version of the song by Patti
Page became a No. 1 pop hit and sold 65 million copies. It became
the state song of Tennessee in 1965.
    King joined the Grand Ole Opry in 1937. During his 10-year run
on the popular country music radio show, he was among the first to
do polkas, cowboy songs and waltzes, as well as use trumpets, drums
and electric guitar in his band. King's Golden West Cowboys were
outfitted in colorful western outfits designed by the Hollywood
tailor Nudie, a look other stars emulated.
    Future stars like Eddy Arnold, Cowboy Copas and Ernest Tubb
played in King's band.
    In 1974, he was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame.
    ``I learned a lot about showmanship from him,'' said Arnold, who
played guitar with Golden West Cowboys in the 1940s.
    King and the band appeared in several of Gene Autry's movies.
They also appeared in Westerns with Charles Starret, the Durango
Kid, and Johnny Mack Brown.
    Funeral services were scheduled for Saturday.
http://www.country.com/article/mus-news-new/pee-wee-king-dies.html
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B23546
http://vhost.telalink.net/~nsf/king.html
http://countrystandardtime.com/peeweekingBOOK.html
http://www.insurgentcountry.com/pee_wee_king.htm
http://venerablemusic.com/CountryRecordPages/BS_804.htm
http://www.country.com/hof/members/pee-wee-king.html




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bruce, can I borrow your Theremin?
Date: 08 Mar 2000 10:26:23 -0500 (EST)



On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Ron Grandia wrote:

>
> Our own Bruce Lenkei is the winner of Luxuriamusic.com's Theremin giveaway.
>
> OoooEEEeoooooOOOOOO!
>
> Ron

yes, it's true! I can't wait to start messin' with it.

Hopefully, someday, I'll be able to coax some actuall music out of the
thing, and not just weird sounds, although that would be ok too.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:16:45 -0800


>I find it ironic that the theme for the enchanted Tiki room has
>absolutely nothing to do with exotica

Ah, but there are those on this list who would probably defend it as
being Exotica!

With Disney's Tiki Room, it seems as though the Tikis are there mainly
for decoration and to help set the tropical/island "atmosphere", so to
speak.  Obviously the singing birds and flowers are the stars of the show.

> and "real" tiki music, except the
>name of course. Or, at least that's what I think.  Still, a cool place
>to hang out...

You were the tiki expert I was thinking of when the "What is Tiki music?"
question was raised.  In your opinion, what is (or what constitutes) tiki
music?  What would be good examples to listen to?

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:04:01 +0100


----- Original Message -----


> Then please enlighten us ALL and favor us with what your complete
> definition of jazz is.  If the music in question does not include
> improvisation on a melody, it's simply not jazz, period.

Jazz is not about improvisation on a melody. All the great jazz is about
improvising on the HARMONIES (the chord-progression) of a tune.
Improvisation on the melody happens in a lot of other music, including
folk music as well as pop and rock.

> I found out a long time ago that "people who just don't have the chops"
> can't survive in the jazz world, period.  No way, no how.  You must be
> able to improvise and do it fluently.

Ever heard Thelonious Monk......? He wasn't a great technical pianist, but
oh boy, did he create some great jazz. Do you want all jazz musicians to
sound like Wynton Marsalis? All 'chops' and no soul!

> A jazz arranger can lay out a piece for a group to play, but I assure
you
> that the improvisation part is NOT charted.  It's left blank, sometimes
> with an indication of how many bars for the soloist to play,

And the chord progression of course, more often than not including all the
alterations  and substitutions that the arranger would like to hear.

> When the improv is over, reading the arrangement on the charts
> resumes.

And according to your definition the jazz ends where the arranged parts
resume?

Marco




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:42:12 -0800


>Jazz is not about improvisation on a melody. All the great jazz is about
>improvising on the HARMONIES (the chord-progression) of a tune.
>Improvisation on the melody happens in a lot of other music, including
>folk music as well as pop and rock.

I never heard any improv in folk music, but be that as it may...all the
great jazz artists I've ever heard are playing improvised melody when
they play.  That is, they are substituting a new melody in place of the
original one--many times with the *same* chord progressions being played
by other musicians underneath.  I haven't heard all the jazz there is out
there, but I've heard a substantial amount of it over the course of many
years.

>> I found out a long time ago that "people who just don't have the chops"
>> can't survive in the jazz world, period.  No way, no how.  You must be
>> able to improvise and do it fluently.
>
>Ever heard Thelonious Monk......? He wasn't a great technical pianist, but
>oh boy, did he create some great jazz. Do you want all jazz musicians to
>sound like Wynton Marsalis? All 'chops' and no soul!

[sigh] I'm technically not a real hard core fan of jazz to begin with,
but unless the musician playing is a machine, there ususally IS at least
*some* "soul" in the improv.  Yes, some artists have more of it than
others, but this is true of any talent.

>> When the improv is over, reading the arrangement on the charts
>> resumes.
>
>And according to your definition the jazz ends where the arranged parts
>resume?

When you get back to/resume playing "notes on a page", you are reading
music, so my answer to that would have to be 'yes'.  Before you tear into
me for that response, remember that it's already been pointed out that
there is a *difference* between the essence of jazz music (the improv)
and jazz-style music (the arrangement of the rest of the music without
the improv included).

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Oh Yeah
Date: 08 Mar 2000 08:57:54 -0800 (PST)


So, OK, I was at a record store and had only 11 bucks
in my pocket.  I don't know why I challenge myself
like this...

Anyway, I had to put back: Girl Watching by the
O'Kaysions and this Stan Kenton (I Think) disc from
'76 or so called something like Explosion '76, where
he did a bunch of covers.  Jeez, I forgot what they
were now.

These were about 3 bucks each.

Should I run right back and pick those up, or am I
okay without them in my life right now?

Peter
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mystery Tune???
Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:28:45 -0500


At 8:42 AM -0500 3/8/00, Nathan Miner wrote:

>So br cleve, "Yves Eaux" is definitely that "phone sex" song???  'Cause I
>want to order it.........

nope - - I listened to the shibuya-fm stream, and the Buscemi track is not
the one that opens with the phone sex thang. I don't know what that is.
"Yves Eaux" comes in at the 10 minute mark, and plays in its entirety (5
minutes). It's the one with the funky bassline, female wordless vocal, and
metallic percussion over a downtempo beat.

br cleve



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) If you gotta ask...
Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:52:24 -0500


At 09:01 PM 3/7/00 -0800, you wrote:

>  The story goes that Louis Armstrong was asked by a lady to describe jazz
> and he replied "Lady, if you gotta ask, you'll never know!" It's probably
> apocryphal but it's still great.

I just KNEW this anecdote would come up sooner or later.  I have heard it
credited to Thomas "Fats" Waller.  Part of me finds that attitude
exclusionary, the other part of me found himself at a Wynton Marsalis (hey,
I like him!) concert and a woman asked me, "Excuse me, are you deeply
knowledgeable about Jazz?".  I replied, "I know a little, why?".  "Well,
I'm supposed to review this concert."  I asked who she was and she
responded, "I'm the music critic of the San Diego Union".

I will not argue on melody and harmony and improvisation and having
attempted to play Jazz, as culturally resonant as it was when I did, I
couldn't cut it.  My favorite defintion of Jazz was given by my professor,
Jimmy Cheatham who called it, "an articulation of a people suffering".

Brian Phillips

P.S. I don't think it hurts to ASK what Jazz is, but you had better not be
a music critic in the U.S. 7th most populous city!




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Incantation and Dance
Date: 08 Mar 2000 13:21:44 -0500


Good job Vern!

Now, what the hell is 14 pounds or whatever in US dollars?? (In reference =
to where you can get a recording of Incantation.......).

Or will this show up on an Exoticaring tape ;-).......

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) TIKI
Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:52:53 EST



In a message dated 3/8/0 7:34:28 AM, a buncha people wrote:

> tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki  tiki
>tiki tiki tiki tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki  tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room,
>tiki
>tiki tiki tiki tiki
>tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki
> tiki
>tiki tiki tiki tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki  tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki
> tiki
>tiki tiki tiki tiki
>tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki !!!!!!!!!!!

think I'll go on all fours before my Aku Aku tiki...the ol' fellas really
holding up well!


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bozos on this Bus
Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:26:21 -0800


Friends:

Please help me.  I'm doing an upcoming 2-hour radio show of clown
songs--from Bozo to Gacy.  I'm looking for recordings of the weird "Bozo
Under the Sea" and the incredibly racist "Bozo and His Rocket Ship."  They
were originally released on 78 rpm.  My own childhood copies are trashed,
some were broken.  At any rate, I'd be willing to pay money for a copy on
cassette, reel, DAT, CD-R whatever.  Or you might want to swap for a
recording of a hard-to-find soundtrack (of which I have many).  Maybe you
know of a resource.

Please e-mail if you can help!

Thanks!

Carl "Ratso" Russo
www.ratso.net






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Duning
Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:30:17 -0800


Hey y'all.

I received the following question from a BBCer, and I don't know the answer.
Do you?

Thanks!
Carl "Ratso" Russo
www.ratso.net


>>Hello,

I work in the Pronunciation Unit at the BBC and we have been asked how to
pronounce the name of the American film composer George Duning. I notice
from your web site that you mentioned him in connection with the music from
"The World of Suzie Wong" in May 1998 (I know it's a long time ago) and
wonder if you could advise us.

Is it pronounced DUNN'ing (-u as in "fun") DOON'ing (- rhyming with "moon"),
or indeed DEW'ning (as in morning 'dew'). Any advice you could give would be
gratefully received.

Best regards,
Sharon

Sharon Fairman
Senior Linguist, Pronunciation Unit<<





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation
Date: 08 Mar 2000 12:33:16 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>> Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation.

This is a college professor's definition, not a jazz lover's.
Raymond Scott is a good example of jazz that isn't improvised.
At the time, some pseudo-intellectual snobs tried to argue
that it wasn't jazz because it was rehearsed and carefully
scored, but all it takes is a listen to the music to realize
they are wrong. Gershwin, Henderson, Redman and Ellington
are all examples of great composers and arrangers in the jazz
realm who wrote out charts for the band to follow. While they
might have allowed for improvised breaks and solos occasionally,
the music was not improvised on the spot by any means.

Jazz is. It's easier to hear what it is than it is to try to
define rules for it.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Gingerich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica)Oh Yeah
Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:40:04 -0500



I saw the O'Kaysions record in a store likewise and would easily have spent
$3 on it but it looked like someone had used it as sandpaper.
Figure you can't go wrong with the cover, the title, and the fact that they
are four kids from North Carolina, a most awesome state (for music anyways).

pg

>>Anyway, I had to put back: Girl Watching by the
>>O'Kaysions and this Stan Kenton (I Think) disc from
>>'76 or so called something like Explosion '76, where
>>he did a bunch of covers.  Jeez, I forgot what they
>>were now.

>>These were about 3 bucks each.

>>Should I run right back and pick those up, or am I
>>okay without them in my life right now?

>>Peter



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:56:31 -0500


At 08:42 AM 3/8/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>
>When you get back to/resume playing "notes on a page", you are reading
>music, so my answer to that would have to be 'yes'.  Before you tear into
>me for that response, remember that it's already been pointed out that
>there is a *difference* between the essence of jazz music (the improv)
>and jazz-style music (the arrangement of the rest of the music without
>the improv included).

Final response, from me anyway.
I'm not going to respond to the notion that a jazz orchestra plays "jazz"
and "not jazz" within the course of a single piece of music.  Or jazz and
jazz-style.
I'll just remind you of the original argument.  I didn't say that Martin
Denny was jazz; I said the music was jazz-based.  I guess I could have said
"jazz-style".

From time to time on the list here, we talk about "Crime Jazz".  Why do we
call it that?  Mostly, I think, because it's music that sounds like jazz.
Then there's the fact that it was often composed, arranged and performed by
jazz musicians. Then there's the idea that they were trying to evoke a
certain atmosphere and the "idea of jazz" seemed to contribute to that
atmosphere.  Then there's the more mundane issue that some of these
films/TV shows actually included on-camera jazz combos, even sometimes
featuring them in the story.  Sweet Smell of Success, Staccato etc.
That just further emphasizes the idea that the films were trying to evoke a
certain atmosphere and that the idea - or feel - of jazz at that time in
history, was a good way to reinforce that atmosphere.

Is "crime jazz" actually jazz?  There are solos but I suspect the solos
were either "written" or at least tightly prescribed.  I don't think
there's much improvisation per se.  A friend of mine whose jazz tastes are
as narrow as mine once were, asked me if he'd like this stuff I was calling
"crime jazz".  I told him that if he was watching a film and it had a crime
jazz soundtrack, he'd probably be pleased.  He'd probably enjoy it in that
context.  It would be music that reminded him of the music he loves.  I
expressed some doubt that he was ready to just sit down and listen to one
of the records.  I told him I doubted "Anatomy of a Murder" would become
one of his favourite Ellington records.  But I was sure that if he saw the
film, he'd be pleasantly surprised.
And if someday he could loosen up his demands - as I had learned to - he
might actually be ready to enjoy a crime jazz compilation I volunteered to
make him.

I'm intimately familiar with the mentality that holds strict and narrow
qualifications for what constitutes jazz.  I was once there myself. By my
qualifications at the time, Brubeck wasn't jazz.  And I can still contact
those feelings.

(I'm also familiar with the gang who say that nothing produced after 1941
should be called "jazz" but that's a whole other argument.)

So, though I enjoyed some of the insights produced by our little argument
here, I just want to remind "us" that the argument wasn't about "what's
jazz?" but about music with a jazz base, a jazz style, a jazz feel.  It
doesn't matter if it's really jazz.  I know that many would say it isn't
and I'm certainly not surprised that a university music department would
promote such an idea.  They'd probably say the same thing about crime jazz.

All I was saying was that Martin Denny reminds me of a cocktail jazz quartet.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:16:11 -0600


I've worked in and around jazz radio for 20+ years and all I know is,
if you ask 100 different people for a definition of jazz, you'll get 100
different answers.  Even jazz musicians can't agree.  And who
cares how you define it, anyway?  When Dan Rather asked Count
Basie to explain jazz during an interview on 60 Minutes, Basie's
reply was classic:

"Pat your foot".

'nuff said, in my opinion.

Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (shut up already!)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:19:33 -0500


My first and flame-like comment is that I have had to endure worthless
arguments and discussions about this issue and the categorization of
most any type of music for many years... from "what is classical,
bluegrass, jazz, folk," ad nauseum. Mostly instigated by blowhard anal
retentive collectors with too much time to obsess and too little sense
to think it through (present company pretty much excepted, of
course...).

For record collectors, these categories have some real validity and
value, mainly as shelf markers. Here's the experiment, which can be
conducted from either end of the spectrum:

Divide your entire collection into

a single category: recordings.

2 categories: music and spoken word. if your collection is like mine,
you'll even have a bunch of overlap here, on the fringes of poetry,
accapella word-jazz, even birds talking and singing without
accompaniment.

3 now pick 2 superbroad music categories and divvy it up again: maybe
classical music and all other, which is a fair starting point from a
dealer perspective. Lots of overlap again. I won't elaborate.

4 keep going. this should be clear by now.

-------

or, start with a million categories, like white west coast jazz
ensembles from 1962. If one member might be biracial, is that record in
or out?

----------

Comment: spend as little time as possible worrying about what category a
recording is and start listening more carefully and critically,
discovering what resonates in it for you, how it relates to other genres
and musics, what it says, how it says it. Is it beautiful? does it make
you weep? would you trade it away for something else?

many of the comments made during this discussion have been groundless,
without foundation, and dumb.  This list has more open-minded music
listeners and music lovers with broader taste than most other lists
around here. i hope it stays that way.

go back and listen to your favorite album. As long as you know where you
put it, you're on the right track.

citizen kafka


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz?
Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:35:09 -0500


So jazz switches on and off throughout a piece depending on the improv
quotient? Wow. I never would have guessed.

This thread is starting to make me feel something akin to the bewildered
amusement of "primitive" cultures when confronted by western man's penchant
for carving the Earth up into parcels of property.

Music is not a tv dinner with neat little dividers to keep everything
separated. It's a big, yummy stew with all sorts of good things all mixed
up. Grab a spoon and enjoy!



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Chuck Collazzi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What is jazz?!
Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:40:33 -0500


OK, the professor will now take a stab, having perused (far too many)
well-meant but wayward definitions.........

"Improvisation" is a technique wherein a musician takes an established
melodic fragment or harmonic structure and, using non-melody scale tones
which relate in some way to the original fragment, or chromatic or diatonic
passing tones (in the case of improvising over a chord progression), creates
a spontaneous new melody.

Improvisation exists in all styles of music.  All improvisation is not jazz,
and all jazz is not improvisation.

"Jazz" is a STYLE of music, and suggests a unique combination of performance
practices by which it can be recognized, e.g., tone, choice of instruments
and instrumental combinations, specific alterations to chords (using 9ths,
13ths, -5, -9, augmented, suspended, compound, polytonal, etc.), etc., etc.
which are not typically found in other styles of music.

There is much more to this subject......

Of course, when I turn on the local FM "jazz" station, it sounds to me like
their definition is anything with a funky sax.

Not that it really matters, I'm afraid..............



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation
Date: 08 Mar 2000 13:53:38 -0800


>>> Jazz means one thing and one thing only to me--improvisation.
>
>This is a college professor's definition, not a jazz lover's.

If lovers of music are going to vary their definition from the standard
ones, there's really not much point to having a definition in the first
place, is there?!  I mean, if anyone can call something they like "jazz"
without it really being jazz,

This morning I looked up "jazz" in several music textbooks.  Yeah, I can
hear the groans already.  But a reference point for this has to be made
somewhere.  Each book says that it MUST include improvisation (defined as
music created by a musician on the spur of the moment without its having
existed in music notation) or it's not jazz.  They also said that
although improvisation existed before U.S. Jazz, (example, in Europe) it
was only done on one instrument at a time (i.e., usually keyboard).  U.S.
Jazz was the first to have as many as 8 people simultaneously to
improvise at once (all things being equal, of course).

>Raymond Scott is a good example of jazz that isn't improvised.

That's a direct contradiction.  And I'm not an intellectual snob in
saying that.  People who play or compose with jazz influences (thereby
creating their own 'jazz style') are not making the same music as people
playing true jazz that includes improvisation.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bozo the Clown
Date: 08 Mar 2000 14:02:47 -0800


>Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:26:21 -0800
>From: "Carl Russo" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) Bozos on this Bus
>
>Please help me.  I'm doing an upcoming 2-hour radio show of clown
>songs--from Bozo to Gacy.  I'm looking for recordings of the weird "Bozo
>Under the Sea"

I have a fairly clean copy of Bozo Under the Sea on 78, but I don't
have access to a phonograph right now. If you know of someone in
the Los Angeles area who would be willing to copy it, I would be
happy to supply it to you.

The artwork on several of the Bozo 78 sleeves was Grim Natwick,
the creator of Betty Boop and animator of Snow White. Just a
little trivia there for ya.

Please don't forget "Dumbo the Clown Who Loved Christmas" by
the infamous Residents. It is one of the most disturbingly
innocent perverted songs I have ever heard. Another good one
would be Hank Thompson's "Where is the Circus? Here Come the
Clowns". The album cover of Hank in greasepaint standing
solemnly on a desert landscape is very sad indeed.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] David Berman,Charles Gray
Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:38:37 -0500


From LA Times

David Berman, whose family costumed British infiltrators of the Nazi army, and who
personally dressed the movie "Cleopatra," television's "The Untouchables" and Broadway's
"Annie Get Your Gun" and put the neon in Liberace's suits, has died. He was 90.

Berman, who in one period created virtually every costume on the Las Vegas stage, died
Thursday in his Los Angeles home, said his daughter, Sally Sherman.

The scion of the family that started one of the first costume businesses in the world, Max
Berman & Sons, David Berman launched its Hollywood division in 1949. The company was begun
by Berman's great-grandfather in London, where it made uniforms for the royal family
during the 19th century and later expanded, becoming one of Europe's leading suppliers of
costumes for the stage and eventually films.

During World War II, Berman & Sons worked with British officials to create
authentic-looking Nazi uniforms for an espionage operation behind German lines.

After the war, the company established offices in Paris, Madrid and Rome, supplying the
rapidly developing motion picture production business. Berman, who moved to Los Angeles in
1939 and served in the U.S. Army Signal Corps making training films during the war,
established the company to supply Hollywood film companies, the American stage, the new
medium of television and Las Vegas.

Within a few years, he was costuming all the lavish stage productions in the neophyte
Nevada gaming city. When a Times columnist suggested that the nearly nude showgirls must
require very little costuming and that had to be bad for business, Berman countered that
so-called nude outfits didn't come cheap.

Berman created one essential gizmo called a "bicycle clip G-string" for the leggy Las
Vegas ladies and told The Times in 1960 that dressing a single showgirl in a rhinestone
bicycle clip and ostrich, osprey and vulture feathers with a fancy headdress could run
$2,000.

Other costumes were also pricey, even 40 years ago. One nightclub singer paid $55,000 for
what Berman designed for her to wear on stage. Pearl Bailey paid $6,000 for a costume
made, appropriately, with pearls, and Jayne Mansfield once paid $25,000 for a skintight
dress made of gold that was fashioned by a metalsmith rather than a seamstress.

His company churned out 1,000 costumes of various types a month. Berman may have gotten
the most attention for the glittery outfits he created for the flamboyant pianist
Liberace.

When a London reporter, obviously eager to show how the hometown business was faring in
far-off Hollywood, once asked Berman how many beads were on one Liberace tuxedo, the
costumer gave him a number with a straight face: 1,286,475.

 "And you know, he quoted me," Berman told Times columnist Gene Sherman, dumbfounded by
his own ruse.

Although Berman had little serious competition in his heyday, he made a calculated
business decision to destroy his overstock rather than sell it to any potential
competitor.

He supplied the wealthy with costumes for their own use, and when he and his wife, Jean,
went out to a Halloween party, they became as the town's best-dressed clowns.

Berman dressed the casts of motion pictures such as "Lawrence of Arabia" that became known
as costume dramas as well as lavish extravaganzas. His company worked with renowned
designers to turn their drawings into hats, dresses and other items of clothing. One
collaborator was Cecil Beaton, who won the Academy Award for his lavish designs for "My
Fair Lady." The costumes Berman made for "Cleopatra" also won an Oscar for designers
Vittorio Nino Novarese, Renie and Irene Sharaff. The Berman company also costumed casts of
smaller but no less demanding period films such as "Sophie's Choice."

On television, in addition to trench coats and fedoras for the treasury agents and
mobsters on "The Untouchables," Berman dressed Lucille Ball and her colleagues in "I Love
Lucy." He also provided a full range of costumes for skits and serious song and dance
productions of such variety shows as "The Danny Thomas Show," "The Carol Burnett Show" and
"The Red Skelton Show."

Berman produced the buckskin ensembles for "Annie Get Your Gun" and costumed stars for
Broadway productions of "Flower Drum Song" and "Guys and Dolls," among others.

His personal garb was less colorful than the show business outfits he designed, but he was
rarely seen without his signature red socks.

In addition to his wife of 64 years, Berman is survived by his daughter, Sally, of Beverly
Hills; his brother, Monty, of London; four grandchildren; and four great-grandchildren.
-------
    LONDON (AP) -- Character actor Charles Gray, whose chillingly
villainous roles included James Bond's arch-enemy Ernst Blofeld,
has died at age 71.
    Gray died Tuesday at London's Brompton Hospital, his agents said
Wednesday. The cause of death was not announced.
    A versatile and admired character actor, Gray excelled as a
villain and as a colonial type but also portrayed a range of
sadistic generals and old-school men of property. He appeared in
horror films, television series and most recently was in the TV
mini-series ``Longitude.''
    He was best known to international audiences as Blofeld, the
villain with the white cat in his arms, in ``Diamonds Are
Forever,'' and as the sibilant narrator in ``The Rocky Horror
Picture Show.''
    In 1976, Gray starred as Sherlock Holmes's brother, Mycroft, in
the ``The Seven Per Cent Solution'' alongside Nicol Williamson and
Robert Duvall. He returned to the same role years later, with the
late Jeremy Brett, in ``Adventures of Sherlock Holmes,'' and ``The
Return of Sherlock Holmes.''
    His television career included roles in ``Upstairs Downstairs,''
``Tales of the Unexpected,'' and Dennis Potter's ``Blackeyes.''
    Early stage successes included a string of Shakespearean roles
at Stratford-upon-Avon and London's Old Vic theater.
    In the 1960s and 1970s, Gray moved into the realm of cult
movies, playing Black Werewolf, in ``The Beast Must Die,'' Satan's
emissary in ``The Devil Rides Out'' and, most famously, the ``Rocky
Horror'' narrator.
    Rocky Horror creator Richard O'Brien said that in real life Gray
could not have been more different from his on-screen persona.
    ``He was a charming man with a dry wit and a low tolerance of
pomposity in others,'' said O'Brien.
    There was no immediate word of survivors or funeral plans.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation
Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:42:30 -0500


A funny aside:

On the last edition of "My Music", a radio panel game from England that I
hear when I can, Steve Race (the chairman and a pianist, Jazz and other
styles) asked one of the panelists, "What is Ragtime?", to which the
panelist replied, "I have no idea".

He then quoted a dictionary of music (Oxford's?) which said, (I'm
paraphrasing) Ragtime - a style of music played in Ragtime and "Ragging"
was defined as "playing a piece of music in a Ragtime style".

Race then said to the panelist, "If he can get away with THAT, then I'm
going to give you two points for YOUR answer!"

Another aside:
On the back of Martin Denny's Exotica, the music is described as Jazz; I am
NOT going to argue the point of whether it is or isn't.  Just something I
noticed (and posted) before that I am making mention of.

Another aside:
"The Single Petal From a Rose" by Duke Ellington is from the Queen's
Suite.  Buy it and play it at weddings, etc.  What was most fascinating to
me was that I heard another version of this song played by a pianist that
was known primarily for "Classical" music.  If I had played both of them
side by side, you would know which version was which and there is not one
note that is improvised.  I have come to dislike the term Classical music
as the music of concert halls played by orchestras.  What is a
classic?  Bach's Brandenburg Concertos?  Bessie Smith's "St. Louis
Blues"?  Flatt and Scruggs "Foggy Mountain Breakdown"?

For me, the answer to the questions is "All of the above".  That is why I
put the term "Classical" in "Quotes" like I just "did".  Also, let us not
limit artists.  Anthony Braxton lectured a class I was in, in which he
express disdain over everything that he wrote being classified as Jazz ("If
I talk, it's Jazz?  If I walk down the street, it's Jazz?".  In fact, the
opera that I was in (a very small part and thankfully unrecorded; the first
performance of Trillium) was primarily Avant-Garde, if you must label it.

Another aside:

Miles Davis once said, "Don't call it Jazz, call it music." That may seem
to be a bit abrasive to some but the word Jazz once had a rather naughty
connotation to it as it, "I just jazzed that woman good".  Think about
that.  Would you wish to play a music in which you are expressing yourself
(provided you have the talent to do so) in a glorious and beautiful way,
something which you went to college for, don't get paid much for, can't get
much play on the radio for, only to hear someone say, "That was Brian
Phillips and his Orchestra, one of the greatest performers of F**k
music.  Let's bring him to the microphone.  When did you get interested in
F**k and did your Father teach you?  How long have you played F**k and
could you kindly tell the neophyte listeners, 'What the Jazz IS F**k
music'?  Do you have any advice to youngsters who aspire to F**k...", etc.,
etc,.

NO, I don't consider Jazz a dirty word, but when you grow up as Davis did,
with the word losing that meaning, but never gaining the respect it
deserved, you may opt for the "call it music" option.

"So, hey there, Phillips, where do you stand on the 'What is Jazz' argument?"

I stand as an African-American man who tries to know his culture through
many means, music being one of them.  As for improvisation, Beethoven
complained to musicians playing his music NOT to improvise as the printed
music was regarded as a framework not as the only way to play the music.  I
stand on the fact that I have enjoyed many types of music, because that's
how I was raised, in a house full of music.  I stand as a man with a degree
in music from a University, which means...

The more I know about music, the less I know.  Listen, listen, listen,
enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.  Spot the similarities in music because the
differences are self-evident.  It's much more fun that way and as such, I
get along with just about everyone.

I still say we all need to go over to Kenny G's house ring the doorbell and
run like the dickens, if that helps any.

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bozos on this Bus
Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:46:23 EST


<< I'm looking for recordings of the weird "Bozo
 Under the Sea"  >>

Finally, something I can relate to!  This intellectual mumbo jumbo about what
jazz is is way over my pointed little head.

If nobody has come through for ya, Ratso, I'm your man.  I've got a NM copy
of Under The Sea and am equipped to spit out a fully packaged CD-R for you.
This copy is one of those Captiol 33-1/3 LP reissues.  If time permits, I'll
track down Rocket Ship.  Pops up often on ebay, but mighty collectible...

Bozo Under the Sea was the very first thing I can actually remember hearing
as a kid - a real little kid, like 2 or 3 - so your project tugs at my heart
strings.

Where do I send my donation?

bye for now -

ford



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica)Oh Yeah
Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:50:48 EST



In a message dated 3/8/0 3:42:05 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I saw the O'Kaysions record in a store likewise and would easily have spent
>$3 on it

I sold my copy of the North Carolina sextet's LP sometime ago so I can't
remember exactly what's on it, but I recall it as containing the one hit "I'm
A Girl Watcher" which is kind of a pop-soul thing from '68 and a few more MOR
tunes and standard-type fare. While "Girl Watcher" is cute, organ-based,
vocal and  swings in a cool and strange way, the record to REALLY watch out
for is the song its based on; Ginger Thompson's "I'm A Boy Watcher" on EMI,
from 1967.  Be prepared to part with serious sheckels for that one though.
ANY LP worth having is worth shelling $3 for IMHO......JB/living comfortably
without The O'Kaysions


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) If you gotta ask...
Date: 08 Mar 2000 17:31:52 -0500


Well, don't need to ask but I  gotta confess something. It tickles me to
witness...
a discussion pinning down jazz, which is all about fluidity, exploration,
improv, spontaneity, taking forms and turning em every which way upside
down inside out and swingin it too, while you're at it, buster
a discussion defining tiki music, which is all about sensuality, the
ineffable, mystery

It's giving me a grin just when I need it. Thanks, BJ & Nat & Mo & Brian
and whoever. Let the games continue. Hope you lance those windmills or have
a great time trying. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation
Date: 08 Mar 2000 15:45:36 -0800


>Barbara - you're beating a dead horse.

Sorry you feel that way; if nothing moves me to comment on a post, I
don't.  If it does, I do.  People that don't like/aren't interested in
the Jazz thread can always set up a filter to delete it so they don't
have to read it.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What is Jazz? (shut up already!)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 19:42:12 -0500 (EST)


 Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]> wrote:
 >go back and listen to your favorite album. As long as you know where you
 put it, you're on the right track.

 This is why Kafka is my hero!

 -Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation
Date: 08 Mar 2000 19:46:35 -0500 (EST)


At 05:42 PM 3/8/00 -0500, Brian wrote:
>

>Another aside:
>
>Miles Davis once said, "Don't call it Jazz, call it music." That may seem
>to be a bit abrasive to some but the word Jazz once had a rather naughty
>connotation to it as it, "I just jazzed that woman good".  Think about
>that.  Would you wish to play a music in which you are expressing yourself
>(provided you have the talent to do so) in a glorious and beautiful way,
>something which you went to college for, don't get paid much for, can't get
>much play on the radio for, only to hear someone say, "That was Brian
>Phillips and his Orchestra, one of the greatest performers of F**k
>music.  Let's bring him to the microphone.  When did you get interested in
>F**k and did your Father teach you?  How long have you played F**k and
>could you kindly tell the neophyte listeners, 'What the Jazz IS F**k
>music'?  Do you have any advice to youngsters who aspire to F**k...", etc.,
>etc,.
>

>The more I know about music, the less I know.  Listen, listen, listen,
>enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.  Spot the similarities in music because the
>differences are self-evident.  It's much more fun that way and as such, I
>get along with just about everyone.
>


If CK is my hero, Brian, can you be his side-kick? Can I have more than one
hero? OK, you're one too!

I swear, if you ever decide to unsubscribe from this list, I'll come over to
your house and break your finger before you can hit "enter." No, wait --
that'd defeat the purpose, wouldn't it.

-Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) anti-jazz
Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:25:08 -0500


Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is.
What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz?

First thing that came to my mind was John Phillip Sousa marches. I know there
are probably better answers out there....any takers?

Vern



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) anti-jazz
Date: 08 Mar 2000 21:24:29 -0500 (EST)


At 08:25 PM 3/8/00 -0500, Vern wrote:
>
>Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is.
>What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz?
>
>First thing that came to my mind was John Phillip Sousa marches. I know there
>are probably better answers out there....any takers?
>
Well, the Souza thing sounds plausible until you think of New Orleans Brass
Bands...how about that LP where someone (forget who) translated Earth's
Magnetic Field data into pitch/tembre/tempo info. Unless you picture the
planet as improvising its magnetic pulses, that my choice.

-Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation
Date: 08 Mar 2000 16:03:04 EST


[e-mail] writes:
>... Raymond Scott is a good example of jazz that isn't improvised. ...

    This reminds me of an interview with musician DON BYRON from CONVENTIONAL
WISDOM magazine (an excerpt):

CM: "Improvisation is central to jazz."
DON BYRON: "Yes, but Jelly Roll Morton's and Duke Ellington's early music was
almost entirely routined, and varied little from performance to performance.
And Raymond Scott's music was through-composed, yet swings like a M-F!"














# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) categories
Date: 08 Mar 2000 22:13:32 -0500


Without attempting for a minute to get into defining music categories. . .

I just wanted to comment that at this point I have enough records
that I've had to resort to putting little post-its on the
innersleeves of records to remind myself what each record sounds
like. So I have to write *something* descriptive that will give me
some idea what category it is in. I've found myself making up a more
and more idiosyncratic vocabulary to try and evoke the different
categories which seem relevant to me. Here are a few of the terms
that I've been using the most:

Twisty
Noir
Big Bandish
Pepsi Generation
Tangy
Percussion Graft
Bossafied
Cocktail Suave
Vegas Brass

etc.


Plus, various combinations of the above--for example, "Experiment in
Terror" as played by Al Caiola = "Twist Noir"

It's hopeless of course.

cheers,
  --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thye Musick Gods
Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:55:09 +1100


An uplifting fable.

Our neighborhood here in an =DCber-Suburban=81 shire of Sydney just had their
junk collection by the shire council...trucks will come and pick up all the
crap you can stuff at the end of your (brick) driveway.

Over two weeks, as I skateboarded my little girl to day-care, I found lots
of great odds-n-ends, records, etc.

Then the pick-up day drew close

and out of the brickwork came the big guns.

After one twenty-four-hour frenzy, I sat back in my living room (=DCber-Sub=81)
and surveyed my take:

Sharp Optonica Integrated Amp
Sharp Optonica Digital Tuner
Sharp Optonica Solenoid Cassette Deck
Sharp Optonica Direct-Drive Turntable w/Audio-Technica cartridge
Color Television
Panasonic "The Genius" Microwave

The cassette deck needs a $3 belt.

I'm warming up to this town, cancha tell?

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) categories
Date: 08 Mar 2000 20:19:09 -0800


At 10:13 PM 08-03-00 -0500, Ross wrote:
>I just wanted to comment that at this point I have enough records
>that I've had to resort to putting little post-its on the
>innersleeves of records to remind myself what each record sounds
>like. So I have to write *something* descriptive

I have found all of the comments to this interesting and provacative.  Its
not that I like this as an "issue", but I do like the information people
use while responding.

Certainly I agree with Kafka's Komments.  Categorize your stuff so you can
find it...not according to how you "should" place it.  This is why, for
many people, organizing by record label or number makes more sense...and
there are many more methods which don't force stereotypes into art
(chronilogical, color of spine, size...you name it).

When I worked at a public radio station, someone got the bright idea of
colorcoding all the records.  Blue for The Blues, Yellow for folk, Red for
Rock and so on.  But that wasn't enough.  Soon there were subcategories and
then divisions of subcategories.  In the end there were four stripes on
some records...the spines looked like-old style ceramic resistors!

After that fine a hierarchy was established it became meaningless.  I
stopped looking for anything but the main category and by the time I had
anything to say about it, the practice was fortunately abandoned.

For me the only real measure of the music was playing it and short of that
time consuming practice, a quick read of the back cover notes for something
that would spark my interest (a cool title, some respected musicians,
well-known composers or arrangers, descriptions of instrumentations).  This
was good training for me when I started scouring record bins and buying
stuff I had no idea would be good or bad.

One section of the library was the C.C. Linley collection which included
most of the real collectible albums.  The station, I think, has changed
through so many people that they may have parsed out that
collection...perhaps even abandoned albums altogether as is the trend these
days.  I found it interesting how Mr. Linley made notes on his records.  He
had a grading system of checks and often marked tempo.  I never quite
deciphered everything, but it was always fun to see what I thought it meant
(did 4 checks mean it was really great, really bad, was loud, soft, or just
that he played it 4 times?).

In the end, listening to music and collecting it is just a personal
relationship between you and the musician which can't be explained...and
certainly not divided and subdivided with precision.

I am want to always categorize everything...the computer scientist in
me...but I also want to just throw everything in a big pile and take each
record for what it means to me at that moment at that place, knowing that
will change again, defying categorization.  I think both things are natural
for humans to do, but somewhere in the middle is where it makes the most
sense...where you can find most things and accept some crossover...and yet
can also enjoy a better variety of music.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #644
Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:24:32 +1100



>Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 12:02:18 +0000
>From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz?
>
>I found Ben Sidran's 'Black Talk' book on this subject to be a very
>interesting and helpful read. Can wholeheartedly recommend it.


Had to have a belly laugh when I read this...no offense, the book may be
wonderful, but it's written by the whitest, most un-hip un-rhythmic
un-soulful faux-jazzman I've ever laid eyes or ears on.  Well, almost.  I've
got a video of him 'rapping', complete with little boombox, as two homeys
break in the background, that belongs on everyone's 'The Earth Has Broken
Out Of Its Orbit And We're Hurtling Towards The Sun' compilation.

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I found definitive TIKI music....(really, I did)
Date: 08 Mar 2000 23:01:08 -0800


"B.J. Major" wrote:
> > and "real" tiki music, except the
> >name of course. Or, at least that's what I think.  Still, a cool place
> >to hang out...
>
> You were the tiki expert I was thinking of when the "What is Tiki music?"
> question was raised.  In your opinion, what is (or what constitutes) tiki
> music?  What would be good examples to listen to?

Uh, I think you must have me confused with someone else...

That said, in my view Tiki music should sound exotic and feature some
sort of "natural" sounding percussion. It certainly shouldn't sound like
a broadway musical.  Though obviously there are exceptions...

Kevin Crossman
--
***********************************************************
*     Kevin Crossman           [e-mail]            *
*   http://www.kevdo.com  - The Narrow Interest Portal    *
*  Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive  *
***********************************************************


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "w m" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) reccomendations?
Date: 09 Mar 2000 01:56:58 PST



hi all,

  does anybody have the (french) instrumental 60s compilation series? i'm
wondering if they are worth picking up. the discs contain eps by some of the
following: les milords, les monegasques, the averns et leurs guitares
elctriques,  jingle jumpers, the krewkat(krewkuts?), the gladiators, les 4
kiwis(tony and the intials), claude ciari,.. any commments would be helpful.

  also i saw an italian movie soundtrack for a film called arrriva la bomba
which looks quite good. the shop  only has one copy and i'm not sure if they
will get more in. is it highly reccomended? its a little  expensive by
taipei standards so i'm not sure if  i should just go for it or not.

       william in taipei.


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation
Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:21:18 +1100


on 9/3/00 9:42 AM, Brian Phillips at [e-mail] wrote:

> Listen, listen, listen,
> enjoy, enjoy, enjoy.

hear, hear, hear.

Philip
--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) anti-jazz
Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:21:13 +1100


on 9/3/00 12:25 PM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is.
> What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz?
>
Eno is credited as playing a "direct inject anti-jazz ray-gun" on Robert
Wyatt's "Ruth Is Stranger Than Richard" album (which is actually quite
"jazzy") but I guess some sorts of automatic music created by machines or
computer algorithms would have to be anti-improvisation/jazz.

Philip
--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (shut up already!)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:43:58 +0100


Citizen Kafka wrote:

> My first and flame-like comment is that I have had to endure worthless
> arguments and discussions about this issue and the categorization of
> most any type of music for many years...
>
> Divide your entire collection into...

> Comment: spend as little time as possible worrying about what category a
> recording is and start listening more carefully and critically...

There it is again, the old fear of categorization, of "defining" things. So,
this entire thread was completely worthless, right? This is not a hero
speaking. I think it's cheap. What's the point? Am I not listening carefully,
because I talk about it? Is making categories a crime? Does it limit me? Come
on, it's all a mind-game anyway. It's what this list is all about, talking
about music, and why not?!
I have been listening to all kinds of music all my life and now I want to know
"What is Jazz?" And why not? The discussion of Exotica developed to the point,
where the question of its Jazz-roots came up and subsequently the question was
raised "What is Jazz?" This does not in any way mean that anything is about to
be caged in defintions. Quite the opposite: The LESS I know the more limited I
am, stuck in the categories that I don't understand. The MORE I go into the
deep of a subject, the freer my mind becomes, questioning the categories to a
degree where they are pushed beyond their own limits.
I am not worrying about categories at all! I'm rather excited. Some people
always argue against those who use their brain to analyze, categorize and
recognize the world around them. They always say things like "It's not
possible to know what the truth is", "You must feel it" and consider
themselves being so liberal, tolerant and open-minded. F**k! As if I would
care! If the question of 'truth' would bother me, I couldn't even move my
little finger.

>This list has more open-minded music
>listeners and music lovers with broader taste than most other lists
>around here. i hope it stays that way.

I not only hope, I just KNOW, it will stay that way and therefore I TRUST the
list members, that when they discuss something, anything, they have a point.
And don't call their efforts to word their complicated thoughts and paths
through the Jungle of phenomena of music as worthless.
The streets to enlightment are not always perfect, straight and wide,
sometimes they turn out to be blind alleys. It doesn't mean walking is stupid.

It's not like this thread didn't get to any results: Contradictory positions
have merged: Jazz is about improvisation AND Martin Denny is Jazz, that much
is clear now. What it MEANS... is another question. It may lead to listen to
Martin Denny in a different way and actually discovering improvised parts in
his music that you just didn't notice before. Because there was no such
category in your mind to HEAR that. I think that would be a great result!

Mo


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz/Improvisation
Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:44:31 +0100


If there will ever be a book about the highlights of the Exotica list, I want
this to be included:


Brian Phillips wrote:

> Miles Davis once said, "Don't call it Jazz, call it music." That may seem
> to be a bit abrasive to some but the word Jazz once had a rather naughty
> connotation to it as it, "I just jazzed that woman good".  Think about
> that.  Would you wish to play a music in which you are expressing yourself
> (provided you have the talent to do so) in a glorious and beautiful way,
> something which you went to college for, don't get paid much for, can't get
> much play on the radio for, only to hear someone say, "That was Brian
> Phillips and his Orchestra, one of the greatest performers of F**k
> music.  Let's bring him to the microphone.  When did you get interested in
> F**k and did your Father teach you?  How long have you played F**k and
> could you kindly tell the neophyte listeners, 'What the Jazz IS F**k
> music'?  Do you have any advice to youngsters who aspire to F**k...", etc.,
> etc,.

Mo


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Labels, Labels, Labels
Date: 09 Mar 2000 07:15:37


Lawrence Wechsler once wrote a book about the artist Robert Irwin titled,
"Seeing is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One Sees."

I'd paraphrase that:  "Listening is Forgetting the Name of the Thing One
Hears."

If you have to have categories, make 'em good ones:

>And having said that, I'm off to get Bossafied.

>Twisty
>Noir
>Big Bandish
>Pepsi Generation
>Tangy
>Percussion Graft
>Bossafied
>Cocktail Suave
>Vegas Brass

Bravo, Ross!

I'm off to get Bossafied.

Brad


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas soundtrack
Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:18:40 +0000


Anybody know a soundtrack called Le Mariage Parfait (The perfect marriage)
by Peter Thomas?

Its rather expensive on Ebay today:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=274384763

and as we all know the man Thomas, could this be worth a bid?



Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 08:22:07 EST


In a message dated 3/7/00 6:56:19 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Mark:  as you can see, people's opinions on this vary, but from what I
 was taught, "what is" jazz is not found on transcribed "notes on a page"
 (to quote Mr. Holland's Opus).  >>


"What a load of crap" (to quote Grease 2)

Ashley


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Great Record Collector article
Date: 09 Mar 2000 08:28:56 -0500


There's a great, great, great article in today's Washington Post, about
a guy in Baltimore who has 100,000 records in his house.  It's quite an
amazing story ... evidently he has one of a kind high quality stuff that
the Smithsonian, the Country Hall of Hame, and others are simply
drooling over.

There's a few real good jazz related tidbits that are also real
interesting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38192-2000Mar8.html

Vern



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Great Record Collector article
Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:53:52 +0000


145,000 records is just ridiculous. Think of the cost/value! Or the idea of
trying to play them all before you die!

What a great article. I'm jealous.



Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kindeygarden
Date: 09 Mar 2000 05:59:29 -0800 (PST)


I simply try to expose my kids to as much musics as I
can, to get them interested and open their ears.
Sure, my kids like Backstreet Boys, but they also
really like Sesame Street, James Brown, Air, Itsy
Bitsy Teeny Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini and that
Metallica cover of the Nick Cave song.

So, yeah.  Mostly they listen to Backstreet Boys, but
they are listening to what they like, not what
everyone says is cool, and I can respect that.

Especially since, when I was a kid, I grew up
listening to country, like Kenny Rogers, Barbara
Mandrell, Statler Brothers and John Denver.  I also
loved Barry Manilow and the Beach Boys.  Then I
discovered pop during the 80s and listened to Men at
Work, Cyndi Lauper and all those bands.  In high
school, I discovered classic rock.  Also Art of Noise.
 In college, I discovered the Smiths, Pixies, The
Cure, as well as classical, avant garde, electronic
(noise, not dance) and so on.  Then Fishbone and
Primus.  Then John Zorn and his group.  Then heavy
rock like Melvins and Ruins.  Then back to Prog like
Soft Machine, Yes and King Crimson.  Meanwhile Zorn
also brought me to Morricone, while Harry Connick
introduced me to vocal jazz, which brought me to Julie
London, Helen Merrill and Blossom Dearie, all of
which, plus Sesame Street, brought me into lounge.

So, okay.

As long as he's listening and enjoying the music,
whatever he chooses to enjoy is his business and I
support him in that.

Besides, all kids rebel against their parents and hate
their parents' music, so I don't want to expose him
too much to cool stuff, or he'll grow up to hate it.
:)

Finally, I just want to say that he organized a group
of kids in his neighborhood to try and put on a
Stomp-like show.  They were out there banging on cans
and pushing brooms and shouting and having a great
time.

I was so proud.

Peter
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) anti-jazz
Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:08:27 -0500


> Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is.
> What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz?


That would have to be Country & Western.  But I may be saying that only
because I hate it so much.

Charlieman


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 08:17:38 -0800


>In a message dated 3/7/00 6:56:19 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:
>
><< Mark:  as you can see, people's opinions on this vary, but from what I
> was taught, "what is" jazz is not found on transcribed "notes on a page"
> (to quote Mr. Holland's Opus).  >>
>
>
>"What a load of crap" (to quote Grease 2)
>
>Ashley

Usually I would not respond to such posts lacking zero thought behind
them, but I suggest you pick up a book and look up "what is jazz"
yourself.  You will find that it has absolutely nothing to do with
reading printed music notation.

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #644
Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:21:18 +1100


on 9/3/00 2:24 PM, Keith E. Lo Bue at [e-mail] wrote:

> complete with little boombox, as two homeys
> break in the background, that belongs on everyone's 'The Earth Has Broken
> Out Of Its Orbit And We're Hurtling Towards The Sun' compilation.

I'll take a CD-R of your one of these right away, Keith!

Philip
--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) reccomendations?
Date: 09 Mar 2000 11:18:47 -0500


At 4:56 AM -0500 3/9/00, w m wrote:

>  also i saw an italian movie soundtrack for a film called arrriva la bomba
>which looks quite good.

It's actually a compilation of 60's/70's Italian tracks, not a soundtrack.
It's in the funky, Now Sound vein, with some great tracks and some not so
great tracks. The prize on it is the first digital release of Morricone's
"Deep Down", the theme to the cult film "Danger: Diabolik", which was only
released on an Italian single. The orginal tapes were believed for years to
be lost, but the folks at Irma persisted and were able to excevate it.

br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) reccomendations?
Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:45:31 +0000


Arriva la Bomba is one of those compilations that I didn't quite
understand. A mixture of low quality Italian pop and that Deep Down thing?
Is that a classic? I'd say avoid this one (especially if it's expensive).

Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: I'll Drink to That!
Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:31:23 +0100


Fred Astaire: Astairable Fred - lp, DRG MRS 911, USA, 1987: contains the
song "the martini"

        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) categories
Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:03:45 -0500


At 12:43 PM 3/9/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote:
>
>There it is again, the old fear of categorization, of "defining"
things.What's the >point? Am I not listening carefully, because I talk
about it? Is making categories
 >a crime? Does it limit me?

I have to agree with Moritz here.  As much as I respect CK and his
point-of-view, there's always one person who interrupts your endless,
obsessive discussion about musical categories with some cliche like
"There's only two categories.  Stuff you like and stuff you don't like"  Or
"There's only two categories.  Good music and bad music".
And everyone goes "Yeah he's right" and feels guilty about their silly
discussion.  And I always want to kill that person.  (Except in this case
of course.)
Thinking about categories or genres or sub-categories is central to what I
do.  And I don't mean just collecting records.  More importantly I also
mean my work.  Making films.  Writing.
I don't necessarily think of them as categories.  Sometimes I think of them
as "colours".  Sometimes I think of them as "elements".  But it's not much
different from categorizing music.
And sometimes I use musical categories when trying to communicate with a
collaborator such as an editor or a writer or a composer.  "This scene is a
bit more Coltrane and a bit less Blue Note".  I don't think I've ever said
that exactly but I've said things like that.  And even more obscure than that.
Sometimes I slice the categories so thinly, you can barely discern a
difference.  But it works for me.
I'm always trying to create a hybrid of sorts, trying to combine elements
from different categories.  Everybody does it to one degree or another.
When you're writing something and for instance, fashioning a subplot, you
might think "Okay this is kind of a melodrama. I could use something a bit
more jazzy here to offset it".
And it works when I'm just listening to a record too.  A lot of the records
I like, it's because I think I'm hearing all these different elements - or
categories - being brought to bear.  Sometimes the elements fight each
other a bit.  Sometimes the failure of the combination can be a joy in itself.
This is not to say that I want to argue about jazz forever.  Although I
could imagine having a running argument like that with a friend.
I think I understand the "no categories" mentality.  And I can even
understand it existing on this list where we talk about all this different
music and it all seems to fit.  At the same time though, with all the talk
of Italian soundtracks and Kinky Beats and samples, which to me are all
about combining elements, it's funny that people would say "Enough with the
categories!"

Nat


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) anti-jazz
Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:03:47 -0500


At 08:25 PM 3/8/00 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Here's a twist to the question on what jazz is.
>What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz?

Celine Dion. New Country (most of it anyway, maybe not Alan Jackson or
Ricky Skaggs).  Steven Spielberg movies.  Allen Keyes.  McDonald's.
National Anthems (in the English speaking world anyway).  Up With People.
Little Marcy (except when she scats).  Susan Carpenter McMillan.  Arnold
Schwarzenegger.

It's hurting my head to try and think of more.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) categories
Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:03:49 -0500


At 12:43 PM 3/9/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote:
>
>There it is again, the old fear of categorization, of "defining"
things.What's the >point? Am I not listening carefully, because I talk
about it? Is making categories
 >a crime? Does it limit me?

I have to agree with Moritz here.  As much as I respect CK and his
point-of-view, there's always one person who interrupts your endless,
obsessive discussion about musical categories with some cliche like
"There's only two categories.  Stuff you like and stuff you don't like"  Or
"There's only two categories.  Good music and bad music".
And everyone goes "Yeah he's right" and feels guilty about their silly
discussion.  And I always want to kill that person.  (Except in this case
of course.)
Thinking about categories or genres or sub-categories is central to what I
do.  And I don't mean just collecting records.  More importantly I also
mean my work.  Making films.  Writing.
I don't necessarily think of them as categories.  Sometimes I think of them
as "colours".  Sometimes I think of them as "elements".  But it's not much
different from categorizing music.
And sometimes I use musical categories when trying to communicate with a
collaborator such as an editor or a writer or a composer.  "This scene is a
bit more Coltrane and a bit less Blue Note".  I don't think I've ever said
that exactly but I've said things like that.  And even more obscure than that.
Sometimes I slice the categories so thinly, you can barely discern a
difference.  But it works for me.
I'm always trying to create a hybrid of sorts, trying to combine elements
from different categories.  Everybody does it to one degree or another.
When you're writing something and for instance, fashioning a subplot, you
might think "Okay this is kind of a melodrama. I could use something a bit
more jazzy here to offset it".
And it works when I'm just listening to a record too.  A lot of the records
I like, it's because I think I'm hearing all these different elements - or
categories - being brought to bear.  Sometimes the elements fight each
other a bit.  Sometimes the failure of the combination can be a joy in itself.
This is not to say that I want to argue about jazz forever.  Although I
could imagine having a running argument like that with a friend.
I think I understand the "no categories" mentality.  And I can even
understand it existing on this list where we talk about all this different
music and it all seems to fit.  At the same time though, with all the talk
of Italian soundtracks and Kinky Beats and samples, which to me are all
about combining elements, it's funny that people would say "Enough with the
categories!"

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) tv skim
Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:03:51 -0500


Some music-y movies coming up on US TV (eastern times)...

Breakfast At Tiffany's (1961)
Mancini, 'natch.
TCM - Saturday night, 8:00pm

The Girls On The Beach (1965)
With the Beach Boys, Lesley Gore and cross-dressing Beatles imitators.
AMC - Saturday night, 10:00pm, 4:00am

Note that this month AMC is inserting a lot of Beach Boys tidbits in their
in-between segments in this Saturday night zone.

Love Happy (1949)
Harpo and harp.
AMC - Sunday morning, 6:30am

Fun In Acapulco (1963)
El...
AMC - Sunday morning, 10:00am

The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951)
For the theremin fetishists.
AMC - Sunday night, 10:15pm

Ocean's Eleven (1960)
Rat Pack, man.
AMC - Monday night, 8:30pm, 2:35am

Blue Hawaii (1961)
...vis
AMC - Monday night, 10:45pm

The 5,000 Fingers Of Dr. T. (1953)
The ultimate piano lesson... practice, practice!
TCM - Tuesday morning, 10:00am

Greenwich Village (1944)
Carmen Miranda, William Bendix song & dance in a toga.
AMC - Tuesday afternoon, 12:15pm

X: The Man With X-Ray Eyes (1963)
Baxter tracker.
AMC - Wednesday morning, 6:00am


m.ace  [e-mail]
more picks here...
http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) FYI: Copyright Resources Online
Date: 09 Mar 2000 15:24:04 -0500


Copyright Resources Online
http://www.library.yale.edu/%7Eokerson/copyproj.html

The Yale University Library has created Copyright Resources Online, a
rich resource filled with links relating to copyright issues. This
index is divided into two sections: University Copyright Resources
and Non-University Intellectual Property Resources. The two sections
are first shown only as alphabetical lists of Websites that serve as
sources of information; however, further down the page, each Website
is thoroughly annotated including, where applicable, hyperlinked,
annotated lists of on-site working papers, guides, and other
materials.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Bozo
Date: 09 Mar 2000 12:28:02 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>I've got a NM copy of Under The Sea and am equipped
>to spit out a fully packaged CD-R for you.
>This copy is one of those Captiol 33-1/3 LP reissues.

In case you didn't know, the LP re-releases of the Bozo records
were censored. From what I hear, Bozo Under The Sea doesn't
include some of the near death experience of the 78 version,
and Bozo's Rocket Ship omits the Ubangis with their boingy
lips.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) categories
Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:36:53 EST



In a message dated 3/9/0 3:00:13 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>the failure of the combination can be a joy in itself.

Reworded: The failure of the combination is the essence of exotica. Exotica
IS glorious failure.  Which is so perfect because "success" in musical terms
is so often hard to stomach...JB/My .02


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Oh Yeah
Date: 09 Mar 2000 13:56:51 -0800 (PST)


Its funny Peter, when I first started buying exotica vinyl again Girl Watching by
the Okasions was one of my first buys.  I played it a lot and and got into this
soul pop  (blue eyed soul) music style.  I have been wanting more of this music
ever since.  I'm an Okasions fan.   I know the late 60's had to have many more
bands along this style.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

--- Peter Risser <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Anyway, I had to put back: Girl Watching by the
> O'Kaysions and
>
> Should I run right back and pick those up, or am I
> okay without them in my life right now?

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Vanessa M Cox <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jazz CafΘ- Playlist, Monday 06 March Phoenix Student Radio 107.5 FM
Date: 09 Mar 2000 22:18:32 GMT


Hello,

I did my first radio show on Monday, so I thought I'd be self-indulgent a=
nd send the playlist.=20
Cheers!


Elis Regina: Roda
LP: Elis
PHILIPS=3DP765.001P

Laika: Uneasy
CD: Good Looking Blues
TOO PURE=3DPure 89CD

Dizzy Gillepsie: Bang Bang
CD: Dizzy
VERVE=3D533 846-2

Balan=E7o: More
CD: More
SCHEMA=3DSCCD 310

Louis and Bebe Barron: Graveyard- A Night with Two Moons
LP: Forbidden Planet- Original MGM Soundtrack
SMALL PLANET=3DPR-001-8

Plaid: New Boss Hippo
CD: Rest Proof Clockwork
WARP=3DWARP CD63

Bruce Haack, Esther Nelson and Dimension 5 Records: Motorcycle Ride
CD: Listen Compute Rock Home
EMPEROR NORTON RECORDS=3DEMN 7021

Jean Jacques Perrey: E.V.A.
CD: Moog Indigo
BGP RECORDS=3DCDBGPM103

Niagara: Rhythm Go
LP (v/a): Gl=FCcklich II
COMPOST RECORDS=3DCOMPOST 021

Gustav Brom Orchestra: Waldmadchen
CD (v/a): Talkin' Jazz Vol. III
TALKIN' LOUD=3D553 585-2

Broadcast: Belly Dance
EP: Extended Play
WARP=3DWAP129

Frank Comstock and his Orchestra: Out of this World
LP: Project: Comstock- Music for Outer Space
WARNER BROS=3DWS 1463

Gilberto Gil: Margin=E1lia II
LP: Gilberto Gil
PHILIPS=3D 6488 147

Bossa Nostra featuring Bruna Loppez: Apocalypso
CD: Kharmalion
IRMA CASADIPRIMORDINE=3DIRMA494503-2

Cal Tjader: Maramoor Mambo
CD: Cal Tjader- Roots of Acid Jazz
VERVE=3D531 562-2

Miles Davis: Black Satin
LP: On the Corner
CBS=3DPC31906

Also played Raymond Scott's Powerhouse and T=F4 by Tom  Z=E9 to fill time.








# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:34:54 -0800 (PST)


Ween has an album called The Pod, where they took the
cover of Leonard Cohen's Best Of from 1975, and pasted
one of their own faces over it.

That's all I know of.

Peter
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What Is Exotica
Date: 09 Mar 2000 14:36:01 -0800 (PST)


Okay, here's my take on Exotica, which I just
scribbled down for a FAQ I'm creating:

How can you define exotica? ItÆs a broad reaching term
for a music that primarily consisted of South Seas
influenced 50Æs instrumental pop, like Martin Denny,
Arthur Lyman and Les Baxter. In its broader
sensibility it represents any sort of backwater thrift
finds in the instrumental pop category from say, the
early fifties to the mid seventies, though naturally
thereÆs stuff worth discussing before and after that
period. In this sense itÆs also known as Space Age
Bachelor Pad Music, Hi-Fi music, Lounge music and so
on. Some genres that fall under the general banner of
Exotica are: exotica, soft pop, now sounds, hi-fi
recordings, organ music, sixties soundtracks,
percussion explorations, moog showcases, brass
projects, production music, blaxploitation,
psychsploitation, prepared piano, spoken word,
industrial promotions, and anything general wacky or
off-key. The core sensibilities behind exotica seem to
be novel arrangements, a distinct pop sensibility and
a concentration on high-fidelity sound. This is often
paired with a (possibly failed) attempt to be hip or a
sincere attempt, with varying degrees of success, at
something which in retrospective seems quite bizarre.



So, yeah.  Tijuana Brass counts, and indeed I included
a tune from them on a mix I'm making.

Peter


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I'll Drink to That!
Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:37:53 -0700


Brad Bigelow wrote:
>
> I'm assembling a list of cocktail-related tunes and albums for a new
> listener's guide page on the Space Age Pop website--things like "Cugie's
> Cocktails," Pete Candoli's "Moscow Mule and Many More Kicks," where all the
> tunes are named for some kind of drink.

i've been trying to compile a cocktail tune list for a radio show and here's
what i have so far:
hot toddy (julie london's version is nice)
rum & coca cola (barry white's version is called rum and coke)
one mint julep
tequila, too much tequila, tequila twist & other tequila sequels, imitators & parodies
bloody mary (from south pacific), or for a song that is actually about the
cocktail, bloody mary morning by willie nelson

and that's all i have so far. hope it's of some help.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) hybrids
Date: 09 Mar 2000 19:12:55 -0500


Speaking of jazz hybrids, are you folks familiar with the Ernest Ranglin CD
"Below the Bassline"?  I guess they call it "reggae jazz".  But I think
it's a great record and somehow I was reminded of it by our recent discussion.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) I'll Drink to That!
Date: 09 Mar 2000 19:09:51 EST


Here's some drinkin tunes from ole Dean Martin:
Little Ole Wine Drinker Me
Drinking Chamagne
Party Dolls And Wine
Hey Brother Pour The Wine

and others I'm sure....


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) No-Apology Analogies
Date: 10 Mar 2000 11:47:00 +1100


----------
>From: [e-mail] (exotica-digest)
>To: [e-mail]
>Subject: exotica-digest V2 #645
>Date: Thu, Mar 09, 2000, 10:46 PM
>

>Music is not a tv dinner with neat little dividers to keep everything
>separated. It's a big, yummy stew with all sorts of good things all mixed
>up. Grab a spoon and enjoy!

Boy do I love a good SOOP metaphor!  ;-)

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Is Jazz What
Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:22:51 +1100



>This morning I looked up "jazz" in several music textbooks.

Well, BJ, I'll spare the groans for courtesy.  I will, however, cite an
excellent quote by Frank Zappa:

"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture."

I know this is in vogue right now, there being the recent film 'Dancing
about Architecture', but it is worth mentioning it here, as it applies.
Music texts generalize and catagorize in order to guide their texts.
Written language cannot fully define an inherently different and independent
means of expression, which is what that quote drives at. You'll fail every
time, if you try anything more exact than mere suggestion. One can't take
these books and come away with the blinders they create...the world is too
liquid for that, and boundaries blur more every day.  Odds are these texts
were written a while ago?

ck, I laughed when I read your pissy post, and 'here-here'-ed at the time,
but I welcome threads like this on the list.  It's a better read than the
Shriners debacle.

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What
Date: 09 Mar 2000 17:59:22 -0800


>You'll fail every
>time, if you try anything more exact than mere suggestion. One can't take
>these books and come away with the blinders they create...the world is too
>liquid for that, and boundaries blur more every day.  Odds are these texts
>were written a while ago?

Whether they were written yesterday or 30 yrs. ago, the basic definition
of jazz would not change because jazz has existed for many decades before
I was in college!  If jazz was impossible to define more than "mere
suggestion", as you say, teaching people the basics of it or what it
encompasses would be impossible (and that is not the case).

I won't say more than that because this whole debate is getting very
tiresome (for me).  Others on the list who feel duly compelled, please
feel free to take up the torch and run with it.

For anyone on this list with a sincere interest in having the "What is
Jazz?" question answered, I found an excellent website written by pros
that provides enough basic answers to get you started on your journey:

http://artsedge.kennedy-center.org/pwtv/whatis.html

Toodles.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mike Horne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What
Date: 09 Mar 2000 23:09:59 -0500


>"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture."
    Funny how noone seems to find it odd that most ballet is inspired by
narrative storytelling...
    ;P
    Mike



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:  Exotica Kindergarten
Date: 09 Mar 2000 16:46:12 -0500


There's Jonny Lang,   rough-edged rock 'n' roll. They had a "live" Back
Door Boys concert where interspersed
>between stage performances,

--and you 'rents
>know what I'm talkin' 'bout!--we videotaped it so the kidz could see it over
>and over



-- "Daddy...What's a Back Door Boy?"
                      WHA. WHA. WHA!

                              ...IT'S SHOWTIME FOLKS!!!


>>>  >>>>>>> >>>>> Yeah i think i NEED to see that one! <<<<<< <<<<<<<<<<<  <<<


                   bUmP

********************************
Bump
Universal DJ
Defective Records
[e-mail]
http://www.defectiverecords.com
"Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 00:24:24 EST


In a message dated 3/9/00 11:19:51 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< ><< Mark:  as you can see, people's opinions on this vary, but from what I
 > was taught, "what is" jazz is not found on transcribed "notes on a page"
 > (to quote Mr. Holland's Opus).  >>
 >
 >
 >"What a load of crap" (to quote Grease 2)
 >
 >Ashley

 Usually I would not respond to such posts lacking zero thought behind
 them, but I suggest you pick up a book and look up "what is jazz"
 yourself.  You will find that it has absolutely nothing to do with
 reading printed music notation.
  >>

Actualy there was quite a lot of thought put into that response. That bit of
parody perfectly sums up the zero thought of using a definition of jazz as
heard in "Mr. Holland's Opus"to make a point!!

So "jazz has nothing to do with printed notation"??? I guess that means that
no place on earth is there sheet music available of jazz compoositions??? I
guess Walter Wanderly was not a jazz artist because he used pre-set
arrangements. Did Mr. Holland write that book where you got that definition
of jazz too?

Ashley


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:35:47 -0800



>Ween has an album called The Pod, where they took the
>cover of Leonard Cohen's Best Of from 1975, and pasted
>one of their own faces over it.

Is this a reply to another message? If so I missed it, so at the risk of
repeating any previous answers, a few that spring to mind:

Beastie Boys's "In Sound from Way Out" Tips the artistic hat to Perrey and
Kingsley by borrowing heavily from the original.

Man or Astroman has a cover that's an outright copy of Atileo Mineo's Man in
Space with Sounds. In fact, it's so good, Jack Diamond thought he had 5
sealed copies of "Man in Space" in his hands untill he got to the checkout
counter at a local record store. Doh!

Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream" has been "referenced" a number of times.

I just saw a record the other day that was a perfect derivation of  one of
those Command "Percussion" records... I forget the name...

I hope this is what you mean by cribbed record covers.

Ron




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 09 Mar 2000 21:45:29 -0800


>Actualy there was quite a lot of thought put into that response. That bit of
>parody perfectly sums up the zero thought of using a definition of jazz as
>heard in "Mr. Holland's Opus" to make a point!!

Sorry, but you misunderstood what I initially said in a BIG way.  I NEVER
quoted a definition of jazz from "Mr. Holland's Opus".  I *only* quoted
the phrase "notes on a page".  [For those reading this who are not
familiar with the movie, there is a scene where Mr. Holland tries to get
across to a student that music is about more than just playing "notes on
a page".  It was not about jazz per se, but still fit the meaning of what
I was trying to say].

>So "jazz has nothing to do with printed notation"??? I guess that means that
>no place on earth is there sheet music available of jazz compoositions???

As far as I'm aware, improvised solos are composed as one goes along, and
no, they are generally not written down.  Once music is written down for
someone else to perform it ceases to be improvisation.  Sheet music that
is available of "jazz compositions" does not of itself define what the
essence of jazz is unless it includes SOME improvisation by one or more
instruments.

>I
>guess Walter Wanderly was not a jazz artist because he used pre-set
>arrangements.

Walter Wanderley was a jazz artist because he was capable of improvising
fluently within the pre-set arrangements--and I have the recordings to
prove it.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What
Date: 10 Mar 2000 00:55:52 EST



In a message dated 3/9/0 9:01:00 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Whether they were written yesterday or 30 yrs. ago, the basic definition
>of jazz would not change because jazz has existed for many decades before
>I was in college!

Relax kid..Can't you  see that "college" may be unhealthful for your musical
identity? A little less pontification and dogma would serve you well.  Please
feel less of a need to prove yourself  'cause nobody's buying it in these
parts. After all, time will tell......

>I won't say more than that because this whole debate is getting very
>tiresome (for me).

But wasn't it U who started it all with your insistence on definitions of
"jazz"?

>For anyone on this list with a sincere interest in having the "What is
>Jazz?" question answered, I found an excellent website written by pros
>that provides enough basic answers to get you started on your journey:

What makes you think we are just starting to travel? You just jumped on the
bus!  Get to know your fellow passengers before making inflammatory
statements like that ...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Re:  Exotica Kindergarten
Date: 10 Mar 2000 00:59:27 EST



In a message dated 3/9/0 11:58:52 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>"Daddy...What's a Back Door Boy?"

Sorry to excite you Mr. Bump!..its actually a Back Street Boy revamped for an
imaginary Mad Magazine...I just can't help being a product of the Sexties...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 03:05:56 -0500


At 09:45 PM 3/9/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>
>Walter Wanderley was a jazz artist because he was capable of improvising
>fluently within the pre-set arrangements--and I have the recordings to
>prove it.

Why didn't you just say that in the first place?  Now we have a working
definition of jazz.  It's music performed by someone who is capable of
improvising.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 03:20:57 -0500


At 12:45 AM -0500 3/10/00, B.J. Major wrote:

>As far as I'm aware, improvised solos are composed as one goes along, and
>no, they are generally not written down.  Once music is written down for
>someone else to perform it ceases to be improvisation.

But one must listen to the current availability of so many 'alternate
takes' on so many jazz reissues over the last few years to realize that the
solos are all pretty much the same - most players have a few set licks that
they play in a solo setting (within an individual song, that is) and take
it from there. There seems to be only a slight variance here and there
within the solos.

Touring musicians, playing to different audiences in different cities every
night, learn quickly what works within a musical setting and what doesn't,
and repeat these one time improvisations so often that they might as well
be written down. Except that there are slight variations to them nightly -
usually in the middle bars. But when you get a good open and close, you
stick with them.

br cleve,
touring the globe for a quarter century


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:02:52 +0000


Jazz also suffers from being recorded. Given that it is an improvised and
spontaneous form of music, it primarily exists as a live performance rather
than a recording. Once recorded, a single piece of music is fixed - to be
played again and again, analysed and pored over, possibly promoting
long-winded disussions about solos, improvisation and debates about what
jazz is or isn't.
Didn't be-bop players do their utmost to make their music as inaccessible
as possible? Inaccessible, that is, until the man recorded it and stated
getting into it.
If any Londoners fancy hearing some cool and very professional jazz from
some very talented musicians (who work over every style imaginable from
James Brown to drum and bass and from reggae to rare groove) the place to
go is the Notting Hill Arts Club, opposite KFC in Notting Hill, just near
the tube on a Tuesday night. The band leader is Nathan Hanes (flute,
clarinet, etc.) and they generally have a keyboard player, guitarist, bass
and drummer. Unfortunately, they have recently got some drum and bass DJs
in to spin tunes between sets - Goldie and LTJ Bukem coming along and
thinking they own the place. These people!

Charlie



+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:12:04 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Jazz also suffers from being recorded. Given that it is an improvised and
> spontaneous form of music, it primarily exists as a live performance rather
> than a recording. Once recorded, a single piece of music is fixed - to be
> played again and again, analysed and pored over, possibly promoting
> long-winded disussions about solos, improvisation and debates about what
> jazz is or isn't.

But plenty of jazz was deliberately scored for records...
Live performance is only one aspect of any music - i dislike the idea
that live performance is always inherently better than records.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 10 Mar 2000 04:07:54 -0800 (PST)




> Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream" has been "referenced"
> a number of times.

I can only think of two.  One is the Pat Cooper
record, Spaghetti Sauce and Other Delights, where he's
in a mound of spaghetti.  The other is a punkish band
(for some reason, I want to say Soul Asylum, but I
don't think that's right) who do a parody called Clam
Dip and Other Delights.  That album mirrors the TJB
album on both sides, with the comments on the back in
the same format and everything.

That's all I can think of...

Peter
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:21:03 -0500


At 04:07 AM 3/10/00 -0800, Peter Risser wrote:
>
>
>
>> Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream" has been "referenced"
>> a number of times.
>
>I can only think of two.  One is the Pat Cooper
>record, Spaghetti Sauce and Other Delights, where he's
>in a mound of spaghetti.  The other is a punkish band
>(for some reason, I want to say Soul Asylum,

I have another one.  I'm not going to go look for it but it has a black
woman in the same basic pose.  Of course the whipped cream stands out
better on her skin.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:30:12 -0500


Threre is also Sour Cream & Other Delights by the Frivolous Five, which
features older, rounder people on it.
"We're Only In It for the Money" by the Mothers of Invention is a direct
stab at "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" by the Beatles
Somerset is a crib of darned near everyone, it seems!




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz What Is
Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:38:57 +0100


Keith E. Lo Bue wrote:

> Written language cannot fully define an inherently different and independent
> means of expression, which is what that quote drives at. You'll fail every
> time, if you try anything more exact than mere suggestion. One can't take
> these books and come away with the blinders they create...the world is too
> liquid for that, and boundaries blur more every day.  Odds are these texts
> were written a while ago?

So why do you write at all?

So, writing about music is like dancing about architecture... Hm, hm.
Subsequently writing about architecture is like dancing about music. Sounds
easy, but you don't dance 'about' music, you dance 'to' music. Subsequently
dancing to music is like writing to architecture. So if writing to architecture
is OK, why not writing *to* music? Instead of 'about'. I want this to be
changed in the Exotica FAQ and in the statutes of info@exotica! It will free us
once and for all times from the burdon of responsibility created by the
philosophical dilemma of a connection between language and reality.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What Is Exotica
Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:39:53 +0100


Peter Risser wrote:

> Okay, here's my take on Exotica, which I just
> scribbled down for a FAQ I'm creating:
>
> How can you define exotica? It=92s a broad reaching term
> for a music that primarily consisted of South Seas
> influenced 50=92s instrumental pop, like Martin Denny,
> Arthur Lyman and Les Baxter.

Except there was no term 'pop' at the time and people most likely would h=
ave
called it Jazz.

> In its broader
> sensibility it represents any sort of backwater thrift
> finds in the instrumental pop category from say, the
> early fifties to the mid seventies, though naturally
> there=92s stuff worth discussing before and after that
> period. In this sense it=92s also known as Space Age
> Bachelor Pad Music, Hi-Fi music, Lounge music and so
> on. Some genres that fall under the general banner of
> Exotica are: exotica, soft pop, now sounds, hi-fi
> recordings, organ music, sixties soundtracks,
> percussion explorations, moog showcases, brass
> projects, production music, blaxploitation,
> psychsploitation, prepared piano, spoken word,
> industrial promotions, and anything general wacky or
> off-key.

I don't know... I'd rather say that Exotica together with all these wacky
genres falls under the general banner of Incredible Strange Music... beca=
use:
Ronald Reagan =3D Exotica???

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I'll Drink to That!
Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:55:31 -0500


Oh, oh I know one!

There's this wild/wacky song called "Wine Wine Wine" done by a 60's =
garage/surf band.  The tune can be found on the "Surfin' in the Midwest" =
comp.

"Wine wine drinkin' wine all the time......"

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:37:52 -0500


At 10:02 AM 3/10/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Jazz also suffers from being recorded.

Quite a lot of music does.  Nothing beats live performance! Comedy can
suffer from recording, too.  Many of the vaudevillians never changed their
act and if they got to record or be on the radio, it killed that material
that was their bread and butter.


Brian Phillips





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I'll Drink to That!
Date: 10 Mar 2000 09:03:53 -0500


 >There's this wild/wacky song called "Wine Wine Wine" done by a 60's
garage/surf band.  The tune can be found on the "Surfin' in the Midwest" comp.

There was the Renegades V - Wine Wine Wine
Also, the Bobby Fuller Four recorded a song by the same name.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jazz What Is
Date: 10 Mar 2000 15:11:12 +0100


> >I want this to be
> > changed in the Exotica FAQ and in the statutes of info@exotica! It
will
> free us
> > once and for all times from the burdon of responsibility created by
the
> > philosophical dilemma of a connection between language and reality.
>
Is Ludwig Wittgenstein still a member of this list? If not, can somebody
please invite him to join us? What, he's dead?

philosophycally yours,
Marco
>



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What
Date: 10 Mar 2000 06:53:02 PST


>From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
>>excellent quote by Frank Zappa:
>
>"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture."


i can't think of a more fitting subject for dance than architecture. imagine
a ballet about gehry's buildings?
zappa said this because he wasn't anywhere near as smart as he liked to make
out. check his lyrics. great musician. smartarse. no quality control.
i agree with pretty much everything you said after that though.

i also really like jimmybee's comment on the nature of failure and exotica.
a seemless blend is not really exotica, it is the disruption of expectations
which drives me to this music. much of this music is manufactured for market
segments, through this we get to hear the background hum of culture through
the decades. this music is meaningful in that it is a discontinuity in the
smooth flow of marketing and consumption to our ears which allows us to
interrogate culture and production. this is perhaps why a lot of people got
turned on to exotica by industrial music and why a lot of people on this
list have genuinely extreme tastes in music and musical provenance.
as for the categorisation a la moritz and nat, it is the essence of the
enlightenment project and empiricism. if you believe the use of people's
intellects can enable us to understand the world better or make the world a
better place to live in, de facto you believe in categorisation.
categorisation is the scheme we use to assist us in dealing with the
ineffable.
excuse the lengthy wordy post
rob


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:13:17 -0500 (EST)




I recently discovered, by way of an inner sleeve ad, that the first
Beastie Boys album (the one with the tail of a jet on the cover) was a
crib from, of all things, a Chipmunks album called "Around the world with
the Chipmunks". The ad was pretty small, but it still looked like that was
the source, as far as I could tell.


++++++++++++++++++++

Lenkei Design
   Graphic Design

www.lenkeidesign.com

++++++++++++++++++++




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Is Jazz What
Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:22:03 -0500


<<zappa said this because he wasn't anywhere near as smart as he liked to =
make=20
out. check his lyrics. great musician. smartarse. no quality control.>>

I just hafta "weigh in" here and state that I highly disagree with this =
statement.

- Nate





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (Boston)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:33:52 -0500 (EST)



******PANDORA's BOX*******
"60's Euro & Exotica club"
Sunday nights starting March 19th
at the Lava Bar, 575 Commonwealth ave,Boston [phone]
Top floor penthouse suite w/a 360 degree view of the Boston skyline
60's euro sexploitation flicks & 60's french music vids
GoGo performances by Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation
Chill out booths & large dancefloor
Hosts: DjVinny (GoGo Empire) & Sir Richard (Phase4)
Dj's spinning 60's euro soundtracks,Frenchie yeye,loungecore,& more!
check out our cool flyer at:
  www.project3.com/pandora.htm




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (Boston)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:36:00 -0500 (EST)



******PANDORA's BOX*******
"60's Euro & Exotica club"
Sunday nights starting March 19th
at the Lava Bar, 575 Commonwealth ave,Boston [phone]
Top floor penthouse suite w/a 360 degree view of the Boston skyline
60's euro sexploitation flicks & 60's french music vids
GoGo performances by Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation
Chill out booths & large dancefloor
Hosts: DjVinny (GoGo Empire) & Sir Richard (Phase4)
Dj's spinning 60's euro soundtracks,Frenchie yeye,loungecore,& more!
check out our cool flyer at:
  www.project3.com/pandora.htm





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Homar Hernandez,Robert Borlek
Date: 10 Mar 2000 10:58:02 -0500


                          *Homar Hernandez
    SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- Homar Hernandez, a songwriter who was to have
been inducted into the Tejano Music Awards Hall of Fame, died
Saturday of a heart attack. He was 57.
    He couldn't read music or play an instrument, but Hernandez
composed 144 songs, 88 of which were published and recorded by some
of Tejano's most famous stars in the 1980s and early 1990s.
    Among his compositions was the romantic polka ``Rosas para una
Rosa'' (Roses for a Rose), which became a hit in 1985 for singer
Ramiro ``Ram'' Herrera. Emilio Navaira, Shelly Lares, Laura Canales
and Johnny Hernandez at Aztlan also recorded Hernandez's songs.
-------
ACTOR ROBERT BORLEK, 75, ASTRONAUT ON 1950S TV

By Maura Kelly
Chicago Tribune Staff Writer
March 9, 2000

In the late 1950s, when Americans were focusing their fascination with outer
space and the mysteries it held, Robert H. Borlek fed their children's
imaginations by portraying a dashing, masked astronaut intent on saving the
world.

As Commander 5, Mr. Borlek played the lead role in the local children's
television show of the same name that was set inside a fictional rocket
ship. The show, which ran for five years on NBC in Chicago, featured
Commander 5 as the hero whose sidekicks were a puppet named Max the Martian
and another astronaut, Stubby, who provided comic relief.

Mr. Borlek, 75, died Tuesday, March 7, after a long illness following a stroke.

He had theatrical roots, with his aunts playing in vaudeville and the
Ziegfeld Follies and an uncle who was a television star in Canada.

In 1960, he co-hosted the Mental Health Ball in Chicago with Joan Crawford.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: James McDonald <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) hybrids
Date: 10 Mar 2000 11:18:30 -0500


Hi Nat,

You hit the right button to stop me from lurking and bring me out into the
flow of the discussion.

Yes, I know Ernest Ranglin's "Below the Baseline".  It's great stuff.
Ernest is arguably one of Jamaica's best known Jazz (guitar) players.  He
started playing Ska and was involved in a lot of the early Jamaican jazz
bands who eventually invented Ska music.  Just recently I heard he put out
a record together with Senegalese singer Baaba Maal, but I haven't managed
to get a copy yet.

If you dig Ernest and want to hear more Caribbean Jazz, you should also
check out:

Jazz Jamaica  (from England but both records are out in the States on
Rykodisk)
Michael "Bammie" Rose (hard to find Japanese release called "Reggae Be Bop"
but well worth it)
Yardbeat (from Jamaica, but the album is available on Beatville records
here in the States)
Jump With Joey (I think Joey Altruda should probably be know to this list)
Eastern Standard Time (ok, I've gotta put my pitch in for my own band... <G>)

BTW, has anyone ever commented on this list before about Exotica songs
being covered by Jamaican bands?

James
http://www.easternstandardtime.com

At 07:12 PM 03/09/2000 -0500, Nat Kone wrote:
>Speaking of jazz hybrids, are you folks familiar with the Ernest Ranglin CD
>"Below the Bassline"?  I guess they call it "reggae jazz".  But I think
>it's a great record and somehow I was reminded of it by our recent
discussion.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) what is jazz - quotes
Date: 10 Mar 2000 11:32:36 -0500


The further jazz moves away from the stark blue continuum and the collective realities of Afro-American and American life, the more it moves into academic concert-hall lifelessness, which can be replicated by any middle class showing off its music lessons.
Imamu Amiri Baraka [Leroi Jones] (b. 1934), U.S. poet, playwright. Daggers and Javelins, "Jazz: Speech At Black Film Festival" (1984).
------
I've come close to matching the feeling of that night in 1944 in music, when I first heard Diz and Bird, but I've never got there. . . . I'm always looking for it, listening and feeling for it, though, trying to always feel it in and through the music I play everyday.
Miles Davis (1926-91), U.S. jazz musician. Miles: The Autobiography, Prologue (1989).
-------
It seems to me monstrous that anyone should believe that the jazz rhythm expresses America. Jazz rhythm expresses the primitive savage.
Isadora Duncan (1878-1927), U.S. dancer. My Life, ch. 30 (1927).
------
Playing "bop" is like playing Scrabble with all the vowels missing.
Duke Ellington (1899-1974), U.S. jazz musician. Look (New York, 10 Aug. 1954).
-----
Jazz is the big brother of the blues. If a guy's playing blues like we play, he's in high school. When he starts playing jazz it's like going on to college, to a school of higher learning.
B. B. King (b. 1925), U.S. blues guitarist. Sunday Times (London, 4 Nov. 1984).
------
There's more bad music in jazz than any other form. Maybe that's because the audience doesn't really know what's happening.
Pat Metheny (b. 1954), U.S. jazz guitarist. International Herald Tribune (Paris, 7 July 1992).
------
Jazz music is an intensified feeling of nonchalance.
Franτoise Sagan (b. 1935), French novelist. Dominique, in A Certain Smile, pt. 1, ch. 7 (1956).
-----
Today he plays jazz; tomorrow he betrays his country.
Stanlinist Slogan in the Soviet Union (1920s).
-----
Something was still there, that something that distinguishes an artist from a performer: the revealing of self. Here I be. Not for long, but here I be. In sensing her mortality, we sensed our own.
Studs Terkel (b. 1912), U.S. author, broadcaster. Talking to Myself, bk. 4, ch. 4 (1977), on seeing Billie Holiday perform in Chicago, 1956.
----
I can't stand to sing the same song the same way two nights in succession, let alone two years or ten years. If you can, then it ain't music, it's close-order drill or exercise or yodeling or something, not music.
Billie Holiday (1915-59), U.S. blues singer. Lady Sings the Blues, ch. 4 (1956; written with William Dufty; rev. 1975).
------
All quotes lifted from:
The Columbia Dictionary of Quotations, licensed from Columbia University Press. Copyright ⌐ 1993, 1995 by Columbia University Press. All rights reserved.
-----
Check this page to find tons o' quotations on tons o' topics:
http://www.startingpage.com/html/quotations.html

For instance:

A jazz musician is a juggler who uses harmonies instead of oranges.
~~ Benny Green ~

(Here's one for you, Vern!):
Jazz will endure just as long people hear it through their feet instead of their brains.
~~ John Philip Sousa ~

Jazz came to America three hundred years ago in chains.
~~ Paul Whiteman ~




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:21:13 -0800


Actually, one of the members of this list (King Kini - I recall him posting
here before) has a very cool website that does have a nice cover page
containing some of these separated at birth/cribbed record covers. Goto:

    http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/lp/

and scroll to the bottom.

The Mills Brothers and Martin Denny?!! Too freaky...

Erik
--
Erik Hoel                                   mailto:[e-mail]
Environmental Systems Research Institute      http://www.esri.com
380 New York Street                    909-793-2853 (x1-1548) tel
Redlands, CA  92373-8100                         909-307-3067 fax


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (was Exotica issues)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 08:44:33 -0800


>At 09:45 PM 3/9/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>>
>>Walter Wanderley was a jazz artist because he was capable of improvising
>>fluently within the pre-set arrangements--and I have the recordings to
>>prove it.
>
>Why didn't you just say that in the first place?

Because we were not talking about specific artists, initially.

> Now we have a working
>definition of jazz.  It's music performed by someone who is capable of
>improvising.

The "capability" of improvising was one of the first things mentioned in
the discussion (in the "soul vs. chops" argument)...

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: arrriva la bomba
Date: 10 Mar 2000 14:28:29 +0100


i know Jill & Chuck loved it, but i found it the most disappointing Irma
"lounge" compilation to date. This is nothing else but Italian cover
versions of  late 60's pop, soul and R&B songs.

        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Ridin' in tiki style
Date: 10 Mar 2000 13:40:46 -0500


Dig this von Franco Taboo Tiki Dyno Cruiser!:
http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/19503162
(Not my auction - I just love the way that thing looks!)

-Lou
[e-mail]


http://metropolismag.com/new/content/inddes/au99joy.htm
http://www.ksmc.com/collective/francobyesup.html
http://www.lakecountrybike.com/dynocruse.htm



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) What is Jazz? (shut up already!)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 13:40:26 -0500


Hi y'all. I'm going fucking nuts with a crazed project that keep
reincarnating back into lurid life as soon as I think I've finished
it....BUT here's something I drafted yesterday about jazz. It's got that
dance architecture quote going. Not attributed to Zappa --I thought that
was said by a German intellectual--I mean beside Mo. (teasing you, honey)

Mo wrote
>There it is again, the old fear of categorization, of "defining" things. So=
,
>this entire thread was completely worthless, right? ...Is making
>categories a crime? Does it limit me? ...

Categorization is not a crime--I do think it's quixotic and difficult and
fun...as long as the discussion is about playful exploration. Not winning.
"My definitions and categories are the best!!!" That's when the
categorization game limits me. It can twist my attention away from actually
listening to music if I get too caught up in slotting-to-win. I forget
that, for me, music is pure pleasure. Physical, emotional, or cerebral
pleasure.

So here's how some big-brainers define "jazz":
A kind of music that emerged in the southern United states, particularly
the city of New Orleans, around the end of the 19th century. The term
itself, the origins of which are obscure, gained currency around 1915 and
has since been applied to diverse and continually changing styles. Among
the progenitors of  these styles were Gospel singing, spirituals, and other
types of singing current among black slaves, the music of brass bands,
strong bands, and minstral shows, and probably rhythms of African drumming
brought to the US by slaves. Throughout the history of jazz, its tonal
language has been essentially that of Western Europe, combined, however,
with characteristic inflections of pitch [see under Blues]. Other
characteristics of much jazz are steady though often syncopated rhythms,
established by a "rhythm section" most often consisting of drums, double
bass (played pizzicato), or tuba, and piano; improvisation by soloists and
groups within the framework of harmonic pattern, often that of popular
song; and effects of timbre and intonation different from those employed in
the tradition of Western concert music. The first two prominent substyles
of jazz (antedating the term itself) were ragtime and blues. Others, in
approximate chronological order, have been Dixieland (or New Orleans
style), swing, bebop, progressive jazz, and most recently, free jazz (in
which the use of steady rhythms and fixed harmonic patterns is largely
abandoned). Music that attempts to combine the traditions of jazz with
those of concert music is given the name "third stream."

Don Michael Randel, ed. Harvard Concise Dictionary of Music. Belnap Press,
1978.
The book IDs Randel as a professor of music at Cornell University. Entries
are not credited to specific authors; the preface states he draw heavily
from previous editions of The Harvard Dictionary of Music in compiling and
editing the book.

OK, the definition's got the improv stuff. It's got the "cries of an
oppressed people" stuff. I suggest we also include something about
syncopated rhythms in a general definition of jazz...which opens the door
for lots of exotic percussion music to fit kinda into jazz. Uh-oh, mess
alert!

There's lots of stuff overlooked in this stiff little definition of jazz.
=46or me one of the key attributes of jazz is what Brian talked about: it's
music rooted in the body, not neceesarily the mind--it is f**k music in the
same way rockabilly and not too hostile punk or hip hop and a boatload of
other musics can be, including sexy exotica. Some jazz strikes me as
cerebral--Ornette Coleman's *recorded* harmolodic music, fer instance.
Heard live, though, harmolodic music goes right to the body, or through the
plastic sax from Ornette's gut, heart, and groin directly to mine. And I
thank him for the music itself and for the chance to live inside his
imagination and connect to his livin' breathin' self. A livin' breathin'
self expressed though pure sound and pitch and rhythm. What a fabulous gift
to have!

Someone said rather famously, Writing about music is like dancing about
architecture. I don't entirely agree with that. But it does point out that
writing about music is hard. I've stay with eXotica to read what other
people have to say about music as much as anything else. And occasionally
I'll stick my neck out and venture an opinion about music...but
reluctantly. I'm a fan, not a musician or composer and I don't have the
vocabulary to write about music  eloquently, let alone with smarts. I end
up using metaphors, analogies, etc. Bossaish indeed.



Quoting Mo again:
>The MORE I go into the
deep of a subject, the freer my mind becomes, questioning the categories to =
a
degree where they are pushed beyond their own limits.

So, please talk on. Find some other definitions of jazz  here:

A glossary of jazz terminology http://www.guitarmain.com/index_gl.html

Marc Sabatella's jazz fundamentals
http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/ms-primer-3.html

Evolution, Linearity, and Closure in Jazz History--more Sabatella
http://www.outsideshore.com/cadenza/history.htm

Etymology of the word 'jazz" from "So This is Jazz" by Henry O Osgood--for
language buffs
http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~nick/e309k/texts/osgood/osgood.html

And tonight, I relax with my new girly cocktail, Sunrise Over Rancho
Deluxe, (raspberry lemonade and much vodka, with a lime wedge) and a listen
to Denny's Exotica I, listening specifically for "Jazz." I think I'll hear
more "Jazz" listening to Lyman.

Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What is Jazz...
Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:13:53 -0800


Didn't be-bop players do their utmost to make their music as inaccessible
as possible?

  I don't if inaccessibility was necessarily what they had in mind as much as getting away from the swing arrangements that were becoming cliche...tho there are lots of stories of veterans of early swing music being completely mystified by the 'stoppin' and a boppin'' as Fats Waller put it.

  Another point on this is that many critics look to be-bop as the turning point for jazz ceasing  to be the popular music of the day. Once it started being 'abstract' and 'difficult' and the music no longer had its basis in the Tin Pan Alley or Broadway tunes that were instantly recognizable.

  Getting back on track here (maybe)...I just got the three cd Jackie Gleason set that Readers Digest produced. If you're a fan of Jackie or just want one package of a lot of his music, this great stuff. It is also available thru Collectors Choice.

  ~~ Paul


MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime!
http://www.mailcity.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Anti Jazz
Date: 10 Mar 2000 12:34:42 -0800


>Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 11:08:27 -0500
>From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: RE: (exotica) anti-jazz
>
>> What would you consider to be the complete opposite of jazz?
>
>That would have to be Country & Western.  But I may be saying that only
>because I hate it so much.

...or because you know very little about it. Western Swing is a whole
classification of country music that is pure jazz by anyone's
definition of the word. Perhaps if you listened to it, you might
find that there are types of C&W that you like.

That said, the music that is called C&W today is not C&W at all.
It's the same crummy pop-rock as the whiney boy vocals, the hyper-
ventillating Barbara Streisand wannabes, and the endlessly
meandering pseudo-soul croon-noodling. C&W music died shortly
after the British Invasion.

No... I take that back. It didn't die. It was murdered.

See ya
Steve


      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A must-see website!
Date: 10 Mar 2000 15:50:11 -0500


Here's a website I'd been sent to check out with some nice
Macromedia Flash content.  The visuals are great by themselves...
but the music!!!  Its sites like this that make me think.... If I were
only a few years younger I'd dump this planning business to
become a webpage maker.  Well, at least I have an inspiration to
get me going on my own website.  Enjoy!

http://www.toohot.com


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) improvisation/composition
Date: 10 Mar 2000 16:30:06 -0500


In my humble experience, I can't even draw a line between improvisation and
composition. They're different aspects of the same thing. The deadlines are
tighter with improvisation, but both source from the same place, and both
involve that decisive moment where you commit to a particular note at a
particular point. Both require the same sense of form. Composition often
involves a good bit of improvisation as you try things out. And in this age
of recording technology and computer transcription, the lines can become
even blurrier as you draw the cybernetic possibilities of the technology
into the creative process. Conversely, improvisation calls on compositional
skills whether applied consciously or subconsciously... an improvisation
*is* a composition, dang it. Maybe one time only, and sure, there's no
paper involved, but it happened, it existed, it can be remembered. And if
remembered very well, or captured on tape, it can even become an "official"
dots-on-paper composition.

Circular statement:
A composition is an improvisation that has decided on its form. An
improvisation is a composition decided in the moment.

Rhetorical question:
What's the difference between a improvisation that has passed into the
ether and a composition for which no copies survive?


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 10 Mar 2000 17:35:02 -0500


At 08:37 AM 3/10/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote:
>
>At 10:02 AM 3/10/00 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>Jazz also suffers from being recorded.
>
>Quite a lot of music does.  Nothing beats live performance!

I can't believe I'm hearing this old crap on a list like this.  Nothing
beats a live performance eh?  I'm listening to a record I love at this
moment.  One of my favourite records of all time.  The artist was dead by
the time I discovered it but that's almost beside the point.  Right now I
don't want to be transported to a big room with a bunch of people listening
to music.  I want to be right here enjoying my private, personal
relationship with this record.  This is a moment of communication between
me and this artist.
"Nothing beats a live performance" implies that it's some kind of
competition or choice and that one is better than the other.  That's crap!
And it's not crap just because of the fact that most of us will never -
could never - see most of the artists we love.
And it's not crap just because of the fact that some of the records we love
were recorded in a way that could never be duplicated live.
It's crap because the experiences are entirely different.  They're as
different as theatre and movies.  They're as different as architecture and
dancing.
I have a number of records - I'm thinking particularly of Blue Note jazz
records - where the recording process seemed to mimic a "live" jam session.
 And perhaps the records are trying to give you the feeling that you're
hearing them live.
You can either bemoan the fact that the solos they played that day are now
frozen in time, that they're no longer "alive" the way they are in a
performance OR you can celebrate the fact that a lovely moment was frozen
in time and will forever be there for you.
I'm reminded of that other old cliche "Never meet your heroes".  No offense
to any friends of his lurking here but a bunch of my friends thought about
that when they met Lou Reed.
I have an intimate, personal relationship with Lou's records  (no sexual
innuendos please).  It's developed over years and countless replayings.
It's part of my life, though I haven't listened to his records for years.
Meeting him or seeing him live - which I've done - is a completely
different experience with completely different consequences.
Sorry for the rant but I really couldn't believe I was reading that here.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Suns and Prado Recommendations
Date: 10 Mar 2000 19:17:11 EST


I have been enjoying the 60's sound on The History of Space Age Pop lately.

Can anyone recommend a good CD of both The Three Suns and Perez Prado?

I am really interested in the sound represented on the Pop series.

For example:  The Three Suns song "Delicado" and Prado's "Why Wait" are the
sounds I am looking for.

Is someone wants to boot a copy we can make a trade with something I have.
Those suggestions would be better sent off List.

Mahalo and Aloha,

Tiki Bob


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 10 Mar 2000 18:47:08 -0600


Check out this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast for tunes
straight out of the Arabian Nights (sort of), including music from
Les Baxter's "Ports of Pleasure" and George Duning's "1001
Arabian Nights" soundtrack ("Three Little Maids from Damascus" is
a guilty pleasure for yours truly).

Also stuffed into our ditty bag this week are groovy Now sounds
from Hal Hester ("Hunca Munca"), Claus Ogerman (from "Watusi
Trumpets"), Edmundo Ros and Ursula 1000; funky '70s crime jazz
from Chaquito, Al Caiola and Lalo Schifrin; plus Mel Henke, Eden
Ahbez, the Markko Polo Adventurers, Esquivel, Wanderley, Baxter,
Muller and Drasnin.

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, just visit us at the
link below.

Thanks for the space!

Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Thanks Tiki Bob
Date: 10 Mar 2000 19:47:35 EST


I have to take this opportunity to personally thank a thousand times the one,
the only, Tiki Bob!  for providing my home with a Martin Denny autographed
copy of "Quiet Village" to hang--framed of course--over my Aku Aku (R.I.P.)
Tiki.  And special thanks to Thinkmatic for the speedy delivery of the LP
which I understand had to be sent back to Martin after Bob's visit for his
signature....Hopefully someday Tiki Bob's story of his meeting with Martin
Denny in Hawaii will grace the pages of one of our fave 'zines.....Bravo Tiki
Bob....JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda (long and maudlin)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 20:28:20 -0500



> >Quite a lot of music does.  Nothing beats live performance!
>
>I can't believe I'm hearing this old crap on a list like this.  Nothing
>beats a live performance eh?

Whoa, back up the train!

I said quite a lot of music does.  There are some records that cannot be
duplicated live, such as tape music (Pierre Henry, heck, there is nothing
"live" about it, but it was quite fascinating to me), some of it even Jazz,
such as Black Saint and the Sinner Lady by Charles Mingus which can be
duplicated live, but was multitracked and even the West Coast Pop Art
Experimental Band's "A Child's Garden of Good and Evil", with the wonderful
Love-evoL back and forth tape manipulation at the end.

1. I wrote "quite a lot of music does", not all.  Jazz doesn't always
suffer from being recorded.
2. The previous sentence (which I didn't write) referred to Jazz and for
that, since I am a musician, of sorts, if the person is alive and the
setting is good, I can see things, such as fingerings, showmanship, etc.
3. Yes, going somewhere to see someone can be truly dreadful.  Too far
away, some lout enjoying him/herself too much, etc.
4. I am (as I gather you are) rather picky about how records sound.  I
could go on and on about how I like drums recorded, how the bass sounds on
the Moonglows' "Ten Commandments of Love", etc.

The last thing I wish to do is offend anyone on the list, in particular a
fellow such as Mr. Kone, who always posts interesting things and he most
certainly has his own opinion.  I had no idea that one sentence that I
thought was fairly innocuous would get a such a severe and public
drubbing.  So, I suppose the moral of the story, is when one has worked
rather steadily (to-morrow will be the first day in this month that I will
not have gone to work), one shouldn't post what one feels is fairly innocent.

All that to say this:  I truly enjoy records.  I have a lot of them and
considering I won't see many of the people whose music that I respect and
admire.  I am very content to listen to them and I will concede they are
two different experiences.  Regardless of what you thought of my post, we
are actually on the same side on this one.

Allow me to qualify and please do kindly forgive if I offend those of us
who cannot get around as well as others:

When:

I see someone I enjoy,
The acoustics are right,
The people are agreeable,
I am in a good mood,

Nothing, for me, Brian Phillips, one man, beats a live performance.

However,

If the person is dead,
Or has performed good music I cannot get to, whether that be logistically
or racially,
If the engineer is someone like a Rudy Van Gelder or Creed Taylor,

I enjoy my records as well, some to the point of wearing them out.  I won't
get into a "who loves their records the most" contest, because I would
probably lose and in the end, it really makes no difference.  We all
do.  There is the wish, fleeting and sweet that I could see (maybe meet,
but that, agreed, can be a letdown, too, but I, have actually yet to have
had that experience) the people whose music has meant much to me.  Before I
get too Hallmark card-sy here, music has buoyed me over some rough times
(and I am quite certain that there people who have suffered far more than
myself and there are people to whom music means more) and for that, I am
forever grateful.

I don't wish to further burden everyone here with this, but I think that
the least stimulating argument is where two or more parties essentially agree.

Let's all be nice to each other on the 'Net,
Brian Phillips





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "claudia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda (long and maudlin)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 18:00:43 -0800



> > >Quite a lot of music does.  Nothing beats live performance!
> >
> >I can't believe I'm hearing this old crap on a list like this.  Nothing
> >beats a live performance eh?

I thought my fellow Portland Trailblazer and the hated Laker fans got
ridiculous..but this takes the cake.

I couldn't agree more that A LIVE PERFORMANCE can't be beat..
that is not to say that I don't love/treasure/hoard/covet others
collections/etc...

It is a statement !!!
Folks..did you ever see Frank Sinatra live?????
Well let me tell you...I have hundreds of his music collection and it
doesn't hold a candle to SEEING HIM LIVE.

And yes..I have tons of cds/records/tapes that I treasure of performers
that are dead.And I LOVE THEM!!!

Why oh why would you call a statement like Brian's CRAP?????
God that galls me.

I happen to like the JELLYFISH..ok you don't..does that make it crap????


My word !..learn to respect other opinions.

It tickled me to hear of a fellow music lovers opinion he loved live
music.I started right away thinking of all the live performances that I
have seen.

Paul Simon's concert with me in the 7th row is far more thrilling than his
cd.!!!

Seeing Simon and Garfunkle in Berlin in 1982 at the famous Berlin Olympic
stadium was a thrill I will never get over.Don't quite duplicate that with
my albums and cd's.

Sinatra live..well there was the thrill of my entire life..

You get the picture????


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) improvisation/composition
Date: 10 Mar 2000 18:26:20 -0800


At 04:30 PM 10-03-00 -0500, m.ace wrote:
>In my humble experience, I can't even draw a line between improvisation and
>composition. They're different aspects of the same thing.

I like some jazz records which list as the arranger "A. Head."

In other words, they are saying the performances are "head arrangements."

A. Head is due about as much in royalties as Alan Smithee is due a share of
the movies he directed.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (Boston)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 18:48:59 -0800


At 10:33 AM 10-03-00 -0500, DjVinny wrote:
>GoGo performances by Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation

does Carrie do it weilding an axe?  I guess this means they don't
serve alcohol at Pan's Box.

:)
Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda (long and maudlin)
Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:47:29 -0500


At 06:00 PM 3/10/00 -0800, claudia wrote:
>
>I couldn't agree more that A LIVE PERFORMANCE can't be beat..
>that is not to say that I don't love/treasure/hoard/covet others
>collections/etc...
>
>It is a statement !!!
>Folks..did you ever see Frank Sinatra live?????
>Well let me tell you...I have hundreds of his music collection and it
>doesn't hold a candle to SEEING HIM LIVE.

Well I just finished apologizing to Brian.  I can see how he took my use of
the word "crap" personally.
And yet here I am, only moments later, trying to think of a softer way of
saying "crap" so I can respond to claudia without her taking it personally.

Sinatra live was better than any Sinatra record.  What does that mean?
Does it mean that it's better to see him live than to play any of his
records ONCE?  Maybe that's true.  The two things are so incomparable, I
can't comment on which one holds the candle and which one takes the cake.
If there's an artist you cherish and you get a chance to see him/her/them
perform live once of twice, that experience will probably add something to
your appreciation of the music and/or their records.
Live performances and records CAN have a relationship with each otherl.
But comparing them or saying that one is better or saying that one is MUCH
better is uh... hooey.
I was listening to a Coltrane record when I wrote my original crappy post.
I can't deny that I have often wished I'd been able to see him live.  Of
course, even if I had, I'd have only been about 14 at most, so doubtless I
wouldn't have experienced anything like my fantasy.  But leaving that
aside, it certainly could have been great.
(Then again, I could have caught him on an off night.)
But I have had hundreds of sublime, beautiful moments with that record.  I
know this isn't a bulletin to anyone here but you can play a record
whenever you want to.  Of course you take that for granted but it's an
amazing thing.
There's nothing about a live performance that can compare to you and the
record alone "together" in your home.  Or your car.  On a road trip.
Driving through some unfamiliar landscape at two in the morning.
Whatever.  I'm being a bit rhapsodic here.  But I think that when people
compare records unfavourably to the "live music experience", to some degree
they're saying that the live experience is more real.  It's more direct.
It's more personal.  As if there's something misanthropic or "loner-like"
to just want to be at home listening to an "object".
And I don't agree with that.  If I did, I'd have to think the same way
about books or letters or any number of other objects which contain, for
me, a "personal" communication between myself and the "author".

I go into the world. I live among the people.  I occasionally experience
live performances of various kinds.  But if I had a choice between my
Coltrane records and the opportunity to have seen him live even ten times,
I'd choose the records.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Claus Ogerman
Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:33:29 -0500


So Jimmy Mack and I were talking about ol' Claus this evening while I was
spinning Jobim's "Wave" as a warmup exercise for a careful listen to
"Exotica" 1. Jim asked, "So he's German, right?" Anyone have the skinny on
this producer/arranger?  TIA, Mimoski




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) SXSW
Date: 10 Mar 2000 23:10:26 -0500


If anyone is showing up, for work or pleasure, for the SXSW Multimedia or
=46ilm or Music  Festivals, please drop me a line offlist. It would be my
pleasure to drag you out for a spin at Broken Spoke, a genuine Texas
dancehall, or to the Hill Country for real Texas BBQ. And if you're a
veggie or don't eat beef, well, we'll improvise. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman
Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:04:14 -0800


>So Jimmy Mack and I were talking about ol' Claus this evening while I was
>spinning Jobim's "Wave" as a warmup exercise for a careful listen to
>"Exotica" 1. Jim asked, "So he's German, right?" Anyone have the skinny on
>this producer/arranger?  TIA, Mimoski

He's German, but he's done a lot of work with Brazilians, most =
noteably Jobim & Jo=E3o Gilberto.  He's arranged and conducted quite =
a few of Jobim's albums, even the 1st dual one with Jobim & Sinatra =
in the U.S.  Other Jobim LPs Claus has arranged and conducted include =
"Urubu", "The Composer of Desafinado Plays", "Wave", "Terra =
Brasilis", & "A Certain Mr. Jobim".

Jo=E3o Gilberto used him on his "Amoroso" LP.

Despite him working for Brazilian performers & composers like the =
above, many people who are die-hard fans of Brazilian music detest =
Ogerman's arragements, claiming them to be "too lush" and "heavy" on =
the strings.  Funny, we just had a discussion about Mr. Ogerman on =
the Saudades do Brazil music list not that long ago, and I was one of =
the few people who claimed to like Claus' arrangements A LOT.  To me, =
there is simply nothing like an Ogerman instrumental treatment of one =
of Jobim's songs.  I think it basically boiled down to me and one =
other person on the list who loved his arrangements.  Everyone else =
on the list couldn't stand him.  It seems that you either really like =
Claus or really don't, no middle ground.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman
Date: 10 Mar 2000 21:03:48 -0800


>So Jimmy Mack and I were talking about ol' Claus this evening while I was
>spinning Jobim's "Wave" as a warmup exercise for a careful listen to
>"Exotica" 1. Jim asked, "So he's German, right?" Anyone have the skinny on
>this producer/arranger?  TIA, Mimoski

He's German, but he's done a lot of work with Brazilians, most =
noteably Jobim & Jo=E3o Gilberto.  He's arranged and conducted quite =
a few of Jobim's albums, even the 1st dual one with Jobim & Sinatra =
in the U.S.  Other Jobim LPs Claus has arranged and conducted include =
"Urubu", "The Composer of Desafinado Plays", "Wave", "Terra =
Brasilis", & "A Certain Mr. Jobim".

Jo=E3o Gilberto used him on his "Amoroso" LP.

Despite him working for Brazilian performers & composers like the =
above, many people who are die-hard fans of Brazilian music detest =
Ogerman's arragements, claiming them to be "too lush" and "heavy" on =
the strings.  Funny, we just had a discussion about Mr. Ogerman on =
the Saudades do Brazil music list not that long ago, and I was one of =
the few people who claimed to like Claus' arrangements A LOT.  To me, =
there is simply nothing like an Ogerman instrumental treatment of one =
of Jobim's songs.  I think it basically boiled down to me and one =
other person on the list who loved his arrangements.  Everyone else =
on the list couldn't stand him.  It seems that you either really like =
Claus or really don't, no middle ground.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) LP Rarity, "Brazilian Mancini"
Date: 10 Mar 2000 22:49:35 -0800


Any of you who like both Jobim and Mancini, keep your eye out for =
this LP in your travels:

Jack Wilson and Tony Brazil, "Jack Wilson Plays Brazilian Mancini", =
Vault #1001, (1965).

This LP contains Days of Wine and Roses, Mr. Lucky, Sally's Tomato =
and six other Mancini compositions, all played in a bossa nova =
style/rhythm and featuring a particular uncredited guitarist on the =
LP--none other than Antonio Carlos Jobim himself, playing under the =
pseudonym of 'Tony Brazil'.

This record is extremely rare and is heavily sought after by =
collectors of Jobim LPs, especially in Brazil, where it was not =
released.  A find of it in the U.S. recently was cause for both a =
celebration and an article to be written on the entire event on =
3/4/00 in Brazil's "O Estado de S=E3o Paulo" newspaper.  There is an =
online (Portugese) version of the complete article at

http://www1.estado.com.br/edicao/pano/00/03/03/ca2530.html

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Call for LINKS!
Date: 11 Mar 2000 21:16:21 +1100


Hey folks--would any of you who have exotica or related websites like to
join me on the Ferrante & Teicher site as a link?

If so, please email me with the address so I can check it out and put you
up!  I'll be unveiling the site within a month or so, possibly sooner.
Coming along well so far.  Sheesh, figures I'd be working on a site
focussing on a duo who released 148 ORIGINAL records (not including
re-issues, etc.)!!!!  It's great fun, in all seriousness.  I hope I can do
them justice!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:21:10 +0100


I'm really surprised how unprecise this discussion is. As Mike Ace has
suggested in his improvisation/composition statement, to draw the lines
between such apparentely contradictory  categories is not that easy.
It's even less obvious in the live vs. recorded thread. So what IS the
difference between 'live' and 'recorded'?

If you record a live concert the difference between the two soundtracks,
the live live and the recorded live, is obviously minimal. The main
difference is, that when you hear the music live, you hear it in certain
circumstances like admidst a thousand or a couple of people, in a
special place, you have dressed up maybe, are together with friends, you
have paid an entrance fee, you have expectations and... you SEE the
artist/s performing. So all of this might add up to the fact that you
are really impressed. Or maybe not, because you think that this favorite
band of yours played your favorite song in a way you didn't like.
Anyway, if you listen to the concert later on tape or on record, you
might be disappointed, because you're sitting in your same old
living-room and have no live athmosphere whatsoever around you, no
screaming fans that turn you on to screaming yourself and so on. But you
are listening to the same soundtrack, not by note exactely the same
thing. So if there is a difference between a concert and the recording
of the very same concert, then it can't possibly be the music that is
different, it must be something else. I leave it to you, dear reader, to
draw your own conclusions.

Another example: I'm on vacation, sitting in a romantic bar in Santa
Lucia, Cran Canaria, exotic athmosphere, a good meal behind me, my girl,
friends next to me, substancially drunk, but happy, happy, happy. The
music played from cheap speakers in the background adds to my
enlightment and for the moment I think, this is the best music I ever
heard. I might even try to buy a tape of it occasionally and take it
home. Listening to it weeks later at home in my same old living-room
might bring back memories of an exciting experience, but most likely I
will recognize that the music, I loved so mucho then, is just another
average chaka-ding-dong-something-fiesta-Canaria-holyday tape. So
listening to it under the southern sun was in fact a live experience,
without even a band performing live, but the circumstances were live. So
what is live? Again I leave it to you to draw conclusions.

The only really substantial difference I can detect in this thread would
be the difference between music that is played simultaneously by hand,
wether recorded or disappearing into the ether forever, and programmed
music whith the parts of it put together piece by piece and only when
everything is finished you hear the final result, the actual music.
Bands who play gigs with preproduced programmed music give me a
substancially different feeling or experience than music that is
actually played live. I don't say that I always prefer the hand-played
music, but I can sense a difference. Additionally you could ask the
question, wether there is a difference between  a studio recording of a
band and a recording in front of an audience. As we all seem to know,
there is a difference. Bands seem to be turned on by a good audience and
this seems to have an influence on their music. You have to be in the
audience during that performance though to be able to enjoy that effect.
I'm not sure though, if I prefer an excited life performance better than
a "cool" precise studio recording. It's just two different things. I
only know that I prefer listening to a "studio" record to a "live"
recording. "Live" only works live.

The Sinatra (and others) case: If Frank Sinatra is live really so much
better than on record (and I have seen him live and it WAS great and I
DON'T care for his records very much), than this effect owes 1. to what
I have said in the first paragraph of this post, the live circumstances,
and 2. that you may be a woman, and 3. that Frank Sinatra above all was
an entertainer, meaning the way he celebrated his person on stage was an
amusement factor of its own, he could as well have played a different
kind of music and it would still have been a great gig. And 4. wether
you admit it or not: you are fascinated because he's a V.I.P, a legend,
a really famous person.
Short version: If you would have asked me 10 years ago wether I would
have liked to have a dinner with Frank Sinatra or see his gig, I'd
definitely have chosen the dinner.

My personal opinion on this whole subject is, try to beat me for it if
you can, I like records better than live performances, hee hee. I could
make it simple and count the gigs that I really liked and the records
that I really liked, but that would be a bit unfair, as I have bought
much more records than I have visited concerts. (Still that's an
indication for the fact that I like records better) But I just think
that in most cases studio records are better produced than live gigs (I
actually really hate "live recordings"), records give you the best that
an artist has to offer (no wonder; if you'd choose out of 50 live
recordings during a tour one for beeing published on record, or out of
20 takes the band is performing in the studio, you would most likely
choose the "best" one), they are available at any time, whenever I feel
like listening to them, they use advanced studio technology, that
enhances the best sound possible and, in cases of "big concerts", I
don't have to cram with thousands of people, that don't give me a chance
to see the band anyway, in one room and deliver my health to a sound
engineer, who doesn't care if I want to use my ears the next day and the
rest of my live.

'Live' is when your life is alive!

Mo





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Rarity, "Brazilian Mancini"
Date: 11 Mar 2000 07:39:44 -0800


At 10:49 PM 10-03-00 -0800, bj wrote:
>Jack Wilson and Tony Brazil, "Jack Wilson Plays Brazilian Mancini", Vault
#1001, (1965).
>This record is extremely rare and is heavily sought after by collectors of
Jobim LPs, especially in Brazil, where it was not released.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention.  It has been hiding in my records
since I bought it from a county library sale (they were getting rid of all
their LPs).  It looks interesting, but I had no idea it would be so
important elsewhere!  I must listen to it.

I am lucky it was not well listened to (only checked out twice), however
the library took special care of it by plastering it with all manor of
stickers and tape. Mmmf.

So, watch your local library or "Friends of the Library" sales...maybe
it'll turn up for you, too!

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 12
Date: 11 Mar 2000 11:39:33 -0500


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #86   Girls At Our Best!

To celebrate International Women's Day, this week at CKUT is "Feminist
Frequencies", featuring programs on and about women.  So Space Bop will
be focusing on women in music on this week's show - some old favourites,
some new favourites, and a delightful "period piece" by Boyd Rice.

Boyd Rice:  Period Piece  "Hate People Like Us"
Chicks On Speed:  Mind Your Own Business  "Pop Tics"
Girls At Our Best:  Go For Gold  "Go For Gold"
Stereo Total:  Dactylo Rock  "Oh Ah"

Combustible Edison:  Lonelyville  "Schizophonic"
Astroslut:  Sophisticated Mr. Sleaze  "Love At Zero G"
X-Ray Spex:  Germfree Adolescents  "Germfree Adolescents"
Portishead:  Sour Times  "Roseland NYC Live"

Pizzicato Five:  Mon Amour Tokyo  "Happy End Of The World"
Takako Minekawa & DJ Me DJ You:  Fantastic Voyage  "Fun9"
Laila France & Maxwell Implosion:  Superstar  "Pool Position"

Pop Tarts:  Girlie Pop  "Pop Tics"
Au Pairs:  Diet  "Live In Berlin"
Lydia Lunch:  Spooky  "Queen Of Siam"
Mrs. Miller:  A Groovy Kind Of Love  "Wild Cool & Swingin'"


Thanks for reading.


[e-mail]
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 11 Mar 2000 09:42:07 -0800


>The Sinatra (and others) case: If Frank Sinatra is live really so much
>better than on record (and I have seen him live and it WAS great and I
>DON'T care for his records very much), than this effect owes 1. to what
>I have said in the first paragraph of this post, the live circumstances,
>and 2. that you may be a woman, and 3. that Frank Sinatra above all was
>an entertainer, meaning the way he celebrated his person on stage was an
>amusement factor of its own, he could as well have played a different
>kind of music and it would still have been a great gig. And 4. wether
>you admit it or not: you are fascinated because he's a V.I.P, a legend,
>a really famous person.
>Short version: If you would have asked me 10 years ago wether I would
>have liked to have a dinner with Frank Sinatra or see his gig, I'd
>definitely have chosen the dinner.

Seeing people "live" in concert often disappoints; they don't always sing
or play the songs that are your favorites, they are not always in "best
form" themselves, they may be too far away from you, and generally--they
have a hard time achieving that plateau we've elevated them to because
making a record in a recording studio to near perfection standards can't
be duplicated when the atmosphere isn't controlled as in a live
performance (where anything can and often DOES happen).  Even though I've
seen Marian McPartland (who will be 80 this month!), Perry Como, Sammy
Davis, Steve Allen, and Henry Mancini in concert--looking back on those
times, I'd prefer none of those experiences (as thrilling as they were at
the moment) again over having one of their CDs that I don't currently
own.

This *isn't* to say that anyone who has a chance to see one of their
heroes in concert should not do so--but when you attend these events, try
not to let your levels of expectation rule the experience or else you
will come away disappointed, guaranteed.  Better to expect little and not
be disappointed than to expect much and come away feeling unsatisfied.
In 1992, I sat within five feet of Steve Allen playing the piano in a
small jazz club in Seattle, and when he didn't pick my "request" card out
of all those that he collected from the audience, I was very disappointed
(of course I shouldn't have been, but I was nonetheless).

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New additions & updates as of 3/1
Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:00:12 -0800


New additions/updates as of 3/1/00:

--Added "Musician Photographs (WW Trio, U.S. Studio & Brazilian =
Musicians)" section to site (see index on Page 1 for exact location)

--Added: "MOJO CLUB PRESENTS DANCEFLOOR JAZZ, VOL. 7:
GIVE ME YOUR LOVE" to Page 5 CD Reissue section.

--Corrected release date of "Brazil's Greatest Hits".  All Music =
Guide lists it as 1972 and it is actually 1980.  Added back cover LP =
photo to listing.

--WW Site mentioned in the 3/4/00 edition of the "O Estado de S=E3o =
Paulo" (a Brazilian newspaper) at =
http://www1.estado.com.br/edicao/pano/00/03/03/ca2530.html  The =
newspaper article was also reprinted in its entirety and linked on =
the Portugese version of the "Clube do Tom" (Jobim) website at =
http://jobim.com.br/e.index.html

--San Francisco artist BRUNI gives permission to include her artist =
portrait of WW on website; it has been added to Page 6.

--Added WW's grandson Rick Garcia Mendon=E7a's interview/letter to =
Page 6.

--Added interview with Bruni Sablan, portrait artist (who knew WW =
personally) to Page 6.

--Split Page 6 due to its increase in size and added Page 7 to the =
site.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) House of Games on Live365
Date: 11 Mar 2000 12:17:41 -0800


Whatever you think of jack Diamond, you have to agree he's quite the college
of musical knowledge, and can spin a heckuva set.  He now has a server set
up on Live365, and a  2-hour show running at 56k (Sorry - Cable, DSL only at
the moment.)  More reported to be on the way.

I particularly enjoy the fact that he's one of the only net-dj's that give
any kind of back-announcing (yay) and his too-cool-for-you patter is fun to
listen to.

here's the link:
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=houseofgames
Enjoy.
Ron



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Eilert is back
Date: 11 Mar 2000 21:56:58 +0100


Anyone knows Swedish? Magnus?

http://www.panorama.no/plater/anmeldelser/P-T/EilertIsBack.htm

Seems the new Eilert Pilarm album is out for a while now. Heard Andi Kershaw
on his worldmusic program on the World Servive playing a few songs from it :
"Hound Dog" and "Jailhouse Rock", the latter one sounding something like
"Ale'ous'ock ", even more appalling than his usual standard. Speaking of
Elvis covers, Kershaw played a manic version of Jailhouse Rock by former
Ecuadorian president Abdala "Madman" Bucaram in the same program too.

Arjan





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) the Pretenders and exotica
Date: 11 Mar 2000 17:26:01 -0500


I saw the Pretenders perform live earlier this week, and they
incorporated a bit of exotica into their show.  As the group was walking
on stage to start off the show, the background music playing was 'Moon
Mist' by the Out-Islanders.  I recognized it from the 'Mondo Exotica'
CD, which is volume one of the Ultra-Lounge series.  Of course, it could
have been some other artist and version that sounded similar to this
version.

This segment was short lived, lasting only 20-30 seconds.  The crowd was
cheering as they walked out, and I had this small, very small thought,
that perhaps the sold-out audience was cheering for the 'exotica'
spirit, and not for Chrissie Hynde and her bandmates walking out on
stage.

Then they started playing their own music, and no more exotica was heard
that night.

Vern



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Is it Live or is it Memorex?
Date: 12 Mar 2000 09:58:49 +1100


Funny that this live music/recorded music spread should be birthed, wiggling
and vital, from the (now tired) What is Jazz thread.  Quite possibly the
music that CAN suffer greatest between recorded and live performance is
improvisational jazz!  Even though I would give up seeing any more live
shows if it meant I couldn't have my recordings, the crackle of watching an
artist you love thinking and intuiting his way spontaneously around a tune
is indeed a hard experience to match!  I'm thinking of a fantastic Bill
Frisell trio gig at the Vanguard, and there was a thirty-second moment
during one of Bill's solos when everything fell away and it was unfettered
brilliance, without bravado, but just RIGHT.  I knew it, the rest of the
audience sure knew it, and he knew it too, as witnessed by the child-like
grin thatspread on his face as the moment receded.

Ain't music grand????

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tracklist needed for Montenegro LPs
Date: 11 Mar 2000 19:46:24 EST


Could anyone furnish a track list for either or both of the following Hugo
Montenegro LPs?:

Hugo Montenegro and His Orchestra (Time Label Process 70)
Russian Grandeur

Please let me know

Thanks

Sean


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lyrics Look-Up
Date: 11 Mar 2000 18:20:51 -0800 (PST)


Does anyone know of a place where you can search for a
song based on a lyric?  All the lyrics sites I've seen
only let you view lyrics if you know the song.

It's a classic rock song, and I oughta know it, so I'm
gonna appeal to your kinder, gentler instincts and
post the line at the end of this post.  It's driving
me crazy, so please take pity on me if you know the
song.

But, seriously, is there a place where you can do this
reverse song look-up?

Also, on an exotica note, does anyone have the English
and Hawaiian lyrics for Hawaiian War Chant.

Thanks,
Peter


"I believe... My soul.. is on fiii-ire..."
<it sounds like the eagles>
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Three Suns / Prado
Date: 11 Mar 2000 18:31:35 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 19:17:11 EST
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: (exotica) Suns and Prado Recommendations
>
>Can anyone recommend a good CD of both The Three Suns and Perez Prado?

The best Three Suns CDs are the two volume "Best of" on Circle
Records. The Three Suns 1949-156 (Circle CCD-75) and "The Three
Suns Second Volume 1949-1953 (Circle CCD-145). The V-Disc two
CD set is good too. "V Disc: A Musical Contribution by America's
Best For Our Armed Forces Overseas: Three Suns" (No Stock # but
it's available from Collectors Choice Music www.ccmusic.com)

For Prez Prado, just about everything he did is good, but the
best single CD compilation is "Prez Prado: King of Mambo" (RCA
ND90424). I believe Rhino put out a collection that was very
similar to this collection. Other great CDs are Bear Family's
"Havana 3 AM / Mambo Mania" (BCD15462) and Voodoo Suite / Exotic
Suite of the Americas (BCD15463).

I also highly recommend Xavier Cugat "Mambo Vol 1" (Blue Moon
BMCD 2004) and "Mambo Vol 2" (Blue Moon BMCD 2005).

Hope this helps...

See ya
Steve


      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Rarity, "Brazilian Mancini"
Date: 11 Mar 2000 23:27:35 -0800


At 10:49 PM 10-03-00 -0800, bj wrote:
>an article to be written on the entire event on 3/4/00 in Brazil's "O
Estado de S=E3o Paulo" newspaper.  There is an online (Portugese) version of
the complete article at=20
>http://www1.estado.com.br/edicao/pano/00/03/03/ca2530.html

I ran it through babelfish and got the usual half translation, but figured
out most of it.  Pretty interesting.

By taking the album notes from the original album, I found it interesting
how translations work and thought you might like to see my probably
erroneous Jobim rosetta stone:

The first paragraph is the Portugese from the original article.

The second paragraph is the "translation" by Babelfish.

The third is my rough translation using the original text from the album
instead of the re-translation.  I took a big jump in my interpretation
which may be totally incorrect, so I would like to know what the Portugese
writer was getting at.

I didn't get the logic behind 200 years (200 anos), so I referred to the=
 quote
as something that still applied 35 years after Johnny Magnus wrote the
liner notes.  If that is not what the author of the article meant, I would
like to know the correct translation.

So, now I know what Carumba means in Yankee English...it is "By Golly!" =20

Byron


~~~~~~~~~~


      O radialista Johnny Magnus, autor do texto da contracapa de Brazilian
Mancini - escrito numa =E9poca em que o mercado americano estava inundado de
bossa nova gravada por americanos -, faz uma observa=E7=E3o de interesse par=
a
os que, hoje, 200 anos depois, ainda discutem a nacionalidade da bossa
nova: "Essa forma de express=E3o, t=E3o encantadora e sens=EDvel quanto
profundamente r=EDtmica", diz ele, "originou-se no Brasil e dos brasileiros =
-
e eles a fizeram popular em toda parte. N=F3s, seus vizinhos, apenas a
adotamos como nossa - e o que pode ser mais americano do que isso? Caramba,
isso =E9 t=E3o americano!"=20


Broadcaster Johnny Magnus, author of text of contralayer of Brazilian
Mancini -
written at a time where the American market was flooded of bossa new=
 recorded
for Americans -, an interest comment makes for that, today, 200 years
later, still argue the nationality of bossa new: " This form of expression,
so charming and sensible how much deeply rhythmic ", it says, " he
originated in Brazil and from the Brazilians - and they had made it popular
in all part. We, its neighbors, only adopt it as ours - and what he can be
American of the one than this? Caramba, this is so American "=20

Broadcaster Johnny Magnus wrote the liner notes for "Brazilian Mancini" at
a time when the American market was flooded with Bossa Nova recorded for
Americans.  One interesting comment he made 35 years ago still applies to
the national origin of Bossa Nova: "The charming sensitive, soulful
rhythmic expressions", he says, "originated in Brazil and the
Brazilians...and only they have made them popular elsewhere.  We neighbors
had adopted them and taken them as our own, and could be more American than
that?  By golly, that is American!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~



Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tracklist needed for Montenegro LPs
Date: 12 Mar 2000 21:11:07 +1100


on 12/3/00 11:46 AM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Could anyone furnish a track list for either or both of the following Hugo
> Montenegro LPs?:
>
> Hugo Montenegro and His Orchestra (Time Label Process 70)

Sequence on lp is different from that stated on the cover.

on lp.

A:
1. Rachmaninoff Rhapsody
2. Cry Me A River
3. Dark Eyes
4. My Prayer
5. Flight Of The Bumble Bee
6. Rags To Riches

B:
1. In A Persian Market
2. Palm Canyon Drive
3. Fantasy Impromptu
4. Because Of You
5. I Concentrate On You
6. Be My Love

Philip




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new exotica/easy/lounge sales
Date: 12 Mar 2000 12:32:39 +0100


Does anybody by chance know the sales figures of contemporary
lounge/easy/exotica reissues and compilations? How much do these records
really sell? How big is the audience of the type of music discussed here
in comparison to other music genres? I heard that some of the lounge
compilations of the last 5 years sold more than 100.000 units; can
anybody confirm or disprove that? How much did the Martin Denny and Les
Baxter original reissues sell so far? Does new lounge music a la
Combustible/Pizz5 et al sell better or less than reissues of old
original lounge?
Any help very much appreciated!

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) warning!!
Date: 12 Mar 2000 09:11:57 -0500


I had a huge problem when trying to listen to Jack Diamond's radio show
at the link below... first i had to download an update for my realplayer
(no sweat). then the site couldn't see it. then my netscape crashed.
after rebooting, tried again, netscape crashed, then i no longer had
access to my inbox (mail). maybe has to do with the talkback on that
site??? anyway, can't listen, i suspect that site is trying to pull some
info from my netscape, too bad i want to listen!

any ideas?

ck

here's the link:
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=houseofgames
Enjoy.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 12 Mar 2000 11:49:07 -0500


Moritz queried, So what IS the difference between 'live' and 'recorded'?

I agree with some of the distinctions you draw, Moritz, but not all of
them. First, though, gotta point out that I don't think recorded music is
necessarily better than live music; they are very different experiences.
Nor do I prefer one over the other. An obvious statement, perhaps, but
since you defend one type of experience over the other, I say it up front.
As a wise woman of my acquaintance often said, "Is not good, is not bad, is
different."

I think Mo's first two examples turn on the power of nostalgia in going to
a live concert and listening to a concert recording...Or later playing a
tape you bought on holiday to evoke that sense of happiness you enjoyed one
transient evening. In these cases, the payoff or pleasure is a chance to
revel in nostalgia. It's about memory, an experience that cannot convey the
immediacy of hearing music live and seeing  gifted musicians perform it.
Naturally memory cannot reproduce the physical sensations of a live show.

With music, there's a disjunction between what you remember hearing at the
concert and what you actually hear listening to a recording of that concert
days later in your cozy living room. Part of the disjunction is due to the
technical limitations of live recordings.  But another factor feeds the
disjunction: you get caught in the difference between your remembered
experience and what you actually hear. In fact, I'd say you can't escape
that disjunction. And that's where the disappointment may crop up when you
listen to a recording of a live performance--it's built into that
disjunction. Plus, there's all the factors Moritz pointed out, which shape
that memory and color the expectations you naturally bring to the music the
first time you play a recording of a live show.  As you listen to the
recording, you expect to recapture all the feelings of excitement or
pleasure or thrill you had at the show. And you can't. Result?
Disappointment that may be bittersweet. Sweet because there's something
satisfying about nostalgia.


>If you record a live concert the difference between the two soundtracks,
>the live live and the recorded live, is obviously minimal.... So if there
>is a difference between a concert and the recording
>of the very same concert, then it can't possibly be the music that is
>different, it must be something else. I leave it to you, dear reader, to
>draw your own conclusions.

Here's what I conclude, dear Moritz: I think oftentimes live music IS
different, and I mean the music itself. Here's an admittedly extreme
example. Say you attend a show by saxist Oliver Lake. The show is in a long
narrow room with stone walls and low ceiling, affecting the acoustics, the
physics of what the audience hears. Lucky you, you get a seat at a table 15
feet from the stage. Lake plays solo, mixing performance poetry with music,
performing from a tight script. Still, there's room for improvisation in
the script; the music is scored for improvs. You know the music is scored
because he'll occasionally bounce over to a music stand and play as he
sight reads. Most of the time, though, he plays from memory.

And near the end of the show, Lake decides to improvise bigtime. It's a
climatic moment. As you watch and listen, Lake stands center stage and
plays a complex scale, then variations on it. He starts to swing his sax in
circles and the swinging motion and maybe how he's breathing change the
sound of the notes. My god, you realize, he is playing with the acoustics
of the room, using the acoustics to affect the tone of the notes! Your
companion whispers, "Hear that? He's playing harmonics!" Since you're
uncertain exactly what harmonic tones are, you nod. But still, your ear can
tell the difference--the actual sounds are more complex--they seem to
embellish the basic sounds of the notes with real subtle overtones. And
compared to the music you've been listening earlier in the show, these
notes actually feel different in your body. Maybe that's caused by how the
sound waves are bouncing around the room. But you don't want to figure out
how the music is happening or why it's affecting you that way or even parse
out all the different ways the music IS affecting you, cuz you just want to
get lost in the moment.

What an astonishing experience!  And it's almost unique in the 100s of
concerts and live shows you've attended--only one other time have you heard
sounds like this: at a Keith Jarrett show years before, in a big
auditorium, where you were 300 feet from the stage. Both experiences are
extraordinary.

That word "extraordinary" is important. The moments in both shows are
exceptions, exceptional. And they are products of the acoustics of the
room, the artists' sensibilities and skill, their knowledge of their
instruments and the range of sounds their instruments can make. And as much
as I adore records and recorded music, I doubt recording technology is
capable of capturing these sounds for reproduction. I'd love for someone to
tell me I'm wrong and direct me to some recordings that reproduce
accurately these subtle harmonics or microtones or whatever it was Oliver
Lake and Keith Jarrett were able to make in concert. I've not heard these
tones outside of live music--not even on an old Keith Jarrett recording,
The Koln Concert, a fairly famous ECM recording made in Jan '75. But a
hunger to hear such sound again has kept me going to live shows again and
again and again.

And I think  a failing of recorded music is that, it's an experience at
least one step removed from live music. Yeah, as Moritz and BJ say, a
recording can be perfected--and I love that experience of perfected studio
created/studio recorded music too.

>The only really substantial difference I can detect in this thread would
>be the difference between music that is played simultaneously by hand,
>wether recorded or disappearing into the ether forever, and programmed
>music whith the parts of it put together piece by piece and only when
>everything is finished you hear the final result, the actual music.
>Bands who play gigs with preproduced programmed music give me a
>substancially different feeling or experience than music that is
>actually played live.

Moritz, what do you think of Fripp and Frippertronics? Have you ever gone
to a Fripp show? To my ears, Frippertronics live are a provocative, yummy
mix of preprogrammed music and live improvisation on it--a fact that hit me
at a Fripp show I attended recently.

>I'm not sure though, if I prefer an excited life performance better than
>a "cool" precise studio recording. It's just two different things. I
>only know that I prefer listening to a "studio" record to a "live"
>recording. "Live" only works live.

Generally true. But if "live" recordings are the only way you get to hear
the music, then you don't have any substantive point of comparison. It's
easy to be satisfied with a concert recording of a band or solo musician
who's left this veil of tears or no longer performs.

I'd also like to say there's lots of music that works only because it's the
product of the recording studio--Esquival is a prime example. These musics
offer different payoffs than live music, differnt kinds of complexity and
richness and excitement. I really wish there was someone on this list who
could tell tales of seeing Esquival live and describe the differences
between his live and studio performances. Maybe someone can compare live vs
recorded music of another musician known for studio wizardry...Frank Zappa
perhaps. Any takers?

I'd talk more about live vs. recorded music but I'm written out here. Plus,
I'd really like to challenge a couple of Moritz's other points, but don't
want to bore the list. Maybe this discussion should go offlist.

Enough! As someone used to say, thanks for the bandwidth. And my apologies
to digesters. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LP Rarity, "Brazilian Mancini"
Date: 12 Mar 2000 10:11:05 -0800


>At 10:49 PM 10-03-00 -0800, bj wrote:
>>an article to be written on the entire event on 3/4/00 in Brazil's "O
>Estado de S=E3o Paulo" newspaper.  There is an online (Portugese) version =
of
>the complete article at
>>http://www1.estado.com.br/edicao/pano/00/03/03/ca2530.html
>
>. . .The third is my rough translation using the original text from the =
album
>instead of the re-translation.  I took a big jump in my interpretation
>which may be totally incorrect, so I would like to know what the Portugese
>writer was getting at.

Thanks, Byron for doing that.  Here below is the very rough =
translation that my friend Sergio sent me in email when the article =
appeared.  It's not the entire article, but it is most of it.

--bj

Saturday,
4 of March of 2000
"Secret" Album of Tom Jobim appears after all this time

A brazilian researcher locates `Brazilian Mancini ', the LP that Jobim
recorded in 1965 in the United States, touching guitar and using the =
pseudonym of
Tony Brazil

RUY CASTRO

Special

All the researchers that, in the last years have pledged in raising =
the discografia of Antonio Carlos Jobim, had a problem: a mysterious =
LP that Tom said to have recorded as guitarist in Los Angeles in =
middle of the 1960s, as accompanying of the piano of jazz artist Jack =
Wilson - in which, instead of being presented as the star of the =
disk, he appeared in the credits with the pseudonym of Tony Brazil. =
The proper Tom liked to count history, without supplying to greater =
details on the disk, but it gave to understand that this had been one =
of the troubles of his first times in U.S.A.. " For the American, the =
Brazilian is latin to lover ", it said, " and latin to lover has to =
touch guitar. " By the way, he was one of the reasons for which, in =
the famous disk with Frank Sinatra, in 1967, Tom also would play =
guitar, not piano, even though the guitar was far of being his first =
instrument.

In either case, the LP with Jack Wilson continued outside of the =
Jobim discografias because nobody seemed to know the title, the name =
of the recording company or who played on it. I never had seen it =
much less heard it.  But, in a few weeks, an implacable Paulistan =
researcher of bossa nova, Sergio Ximenes, killed the charade.  =
Ximenes, 50 years old, is
a consultant of information technology.  He works in great designs =
for the financial system, in S=E3o Paulo and Brasilia, and passes is =
free time working on his site www.sombras.com.br. that it has if =
disclosed an inestimable source for those who want to locate the lost =
coffers of bossa nova.  But, in the case of the disk of Tom, it was =
chance that helped Sergio.

In the start of the year, Ximenes was contacted by the American =
Barbara Major, whose site =
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/wanderley/main.html is dedicated - =
as the name it indicates - to the organista and Brazilian arranger =
Walter Wanderley (1932-1986).  Upon Barbara's asking, he supplied the =
vast Brazilian discografia to her of Wanderley.  In swap, she gave =
Sergio the American produced discography (and in so doing, both had =
completed their discografia of Walter Wanderley) and offered to look =
for other rare albums.  Ximenes then remembered "the secret" LP of =
Tom and gave to the Barbara the only information of that it made use =
(taken from the book of Helena Jobim, "Antonio Carlos Jobim - a =
Illuminated Man"): to that Mancini was about a disk with songs of =
Henry Mancini.

Barbara put Ximenes in contact with a researcher of Mancini, Mike =
Newcomb, who works for NASA in the Challenger design.  And Newcomb, =
clearly, had the disk:  Brazilian Mancini, recorded in 1965 for the =
obscure Vault label, of Los Angeles. It was new Mancini in bossa and =
the musicians were Jack Wilson on the piano, Roy Ayers to vibrafone, =
the Sebasti=E3o Brazilians (Ti=E3o) Neto to the contrabass and Chico =
Batera to the drums - and, as "invited artist special", according to =
liner notes, a stranger named Tony Brazil to the guitar. The surprise =
biggest was Newcomb's, when learning that Tony Brazil was simply =
Antonio Carlos Jobim.  And then it was discovered why this LP was =
missing from the discografias of Jobim:  becauase, as the airplanes =
that fly low are not seen by the radar, an entire disk with songs of =
Mancini
would not have been perceived by the researchers of Tom, more =
accustomed to work with disks which contain the songs of his =
authorship.

Ximenes asked Newcomb for a tape and Xerox of the cover of the LP, =
but the generous Newcomb made better: it forwarded by post office the =
entire original LP to him.  And, with this, came to tona in Brazil a =
unit of the disk where Tom, to the guitar, forms with great the =
Ti=E3o Neto and Chico Batera a delicate but powerful rhythmic =
session, interpreting classic Mancini such as Days of Wine and Roses, =
Mr. Lucky, Sally's Tomato and six others.  Whereby, now anyone who =
wants to complete their discografia of Jobim, already can now write =
down: Jack Wilson Plays Brazilian Mancini, Vault 1001, 1965.

It is not a disk of only historical interest. It is also a beautiful =
disk.  Wilson, then with 29 years, was a pianista respected in the =
West Coast and impressed the proper Tom for his technique.  The =
vibrafonista Roy Ayers, of only 25 yrs., was a disciple of Milt =
Jackson. It practically does not have ground of Tom, but it is felt =
the slightness of its finger in some arrangements. Because of the =
formation (piano-vibrafone-viol=E3o-softly-drums), the listener can =
be reminded to think about George Shearing, but the Brazilian =
rhythmic base does not allow the lesser doubt: one is about a disk =
"to bossa nova", exactly that with American and recorded repertoire =
in U.S.A. - more "bossa nova", in fact, than that shameful jazz that =
many Brazilian trios at the same time were recording here.

In contrast of that Tom also gave to understand, it was not for =
paying his lease in Los Angeles that he accepted the invitation of =
Ti=E3o Neto to take part in the disk of Jack Wilson. Brazilian =
Mancini was made in the first semester of 1965, already during =
Jobim's contract with Warner Brothers (in which he would record, =
after that, "The Wonderful World of Antonio Carlos Jobim", with =
arrangements of Nelson Riddle) and in the height of his presentations =
in the program of TV of the singer Andy Williams.  The money was =
short: Jack Lewerke, owner of Vault, only could pay to it table to it =
- USS 70 per session. The disk was made in three seessions, what it =
was valid to it, therefore, USS 210.  Tom agree to participate in the =
disk for friendship to Ti=E3o, but he left clearly that it could not =
use his name. The pseudonym Tony Brazil was an idea of the proper =
Ti=E3o Neto. And, as always it happened, Tom was not limited to touch =
guitar in some bands: he had participation in the arrangements, =
participated in entire disk and, if he could, would have made still =
more.

In reality, he was always like this. In his last life years, when =
invited by singers to do a little participation, singing just one =
track, Tom expend weeks no agreeing, just to, without credits, take a =
large contribuition in others albums, with damage in his own work.  =
S=E9rgio Ximenes didn't finish yet or know of the number of other =
artists albums Tom made those "little participations"--in the last =
number it was more than 40!

We didn't have Brazilian Mancini in CD form and we don't know if some =
day it will be released.  What happened with the Vault label?  In =
another American album recorded in 1964 (with Tom also), "Soft Samba =
of vibraphonist Gary McFarland" (Verve) - this just last year was =
reissued in New York.  This album has just two participations of =
Tom's guitar: in La Vie en Rose and in I Want to Hold Your Hand - =
yeah, yeah, yeah. I said just becose all that is seen of bossa nova =
guitar in all album is like Tom, diferent of Kenny Burrell's solos, =
who has the name of guitar in the other ten tracks.

Johnny Magnus, author of the text in the back of Brazilian Mancini - =
wrote in an age when USA had a lot of bossa nova recorded by =
Americans - made a curious observation for today years and years =
after when some people didn't agree about the bossa nova birth: Bossa =
Nova, he wrote, come from Brasil and from Brazilians - and they made =
it popular in all world.  We, their neighbors,
just adopted it like ours - and what could be more american than that =
? It's so american!.

Albums like Brazilian Mancini and Soft Samba are a good direction of =
popular music - it could blend bossa nova, jazz, Mancini, Beatles and =
what more will came, in a rich fusion.  But, how we know since 1965 =
it doesn't matter for the brazilian popular music.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 12 Mar 2000 13:38:55 +0100


The Bartlebees: Little Teddy
LP, Bite 001, UK, 1990's

Sort of a Shaggs tribute. The front cover is a replica of the cover of the
Shaggs' first LP. The album starts with a song that resembles the Shaggs --
particularly the drumming and out of tune singing -- but the rest of the
record sounds very much like the TV Personalities. Maybe they're involved,
it wouldn't surprise me. (Dan Tracey on organ).

Johan




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 12 Mar 2000 14:06:17 EST


Joe Jackson did one in the 8T's where he replicated an old Sonny Rollins Blue
Note cover by posing identically with a sax. The Lothars, a Boston-based all
theremin group, named their album "Meet The Lothars" and replicated "The
Rutles" cover which mimiced the British "Meet The Beatles" cover. Then Elvis
Costello cribbed LP-cover ring wear on "Get Happy"....There have to be many
more..JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 12 Mar 2000 15:39:28 -0500 (EST)



Oh! There's also The Clash. London Calling duplicates the Type from an
early Elvis album. Maybe his first LP?


++++++++++++++++++++

Lenkei Design
   Graphic Design

www.lenkeidesign.com

++++++++++++++++++++

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Joe Jackson did one in the 8T's where he replicated an old Sonny Rollins Blue
> Note cover by posing identically with a sax. The Lothars, a Boston-based all
> theremin group, named their album "Meet The Lothars" and replicated "The
> Rutles" cover which mimiced the British "Meet The Beatles" cover. Then Elvis
> Costello cribbed LP-cover ring wear on "Get Happy"....There have to be many
> more..JB



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Michel Legrad
Date: 12 Mar 2000 23:01:31 +0100 (MET)


Somewere i read that the two brilliant DANCEABLE MICHEL LEGRAD Tracks
COME RAY AND COME CHARLES and DI GUE DING DING from the first Inflight
Entertainment Compilation are from the Album PLAYS FOR DANCERS. So can anybody tell
me if the rest of that LP is as good as these tracks or are they definitly
the highlights ???
Are there other LEGRAD LPs with great and powerfull DANCE tracks ???

Martin

--
Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) World Standard "Country Gazette"
Date: 12 Mar 2000 17:52:23 -0800


I just wanted to thank the people who recommended this CD on this list a
couple of weeks ago.  When it first came out, I thought that the concept
(Japanese electronic musicians doing an homage to rootsy country/banjo
music) didn't work "on paper".  Yesterday on an out of town trip, I came
across a used copy and picked it up, and was just amazed at how well it
did in fact work.

And to echo Mo's comments about how external circumstances can enhance a
listening experience, thus making it "live" in some way, my first listen
to the World Standard cd was in my car on desolate country highways in
rural Ohio during an unexpected early March snowstorm as daylight was
fading into dark.  It was very intense and very moving.  It will be
interesting to see how the disc holds up to subsequent listening in a
more ordinary environment.

-- Brad



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 13 Mar 2000 00:43:06 +0100


Mimi Mayer wrote:

> First, though, gotta point out that I don't think recorded music is
> necessarily better than live music; they are very different experiences.

I think I said something like this too; However what I meant was, that in
general I am more interested in records than in concerts. But that was just
the last point in my post. What I was basically talking about was, that I
think, that most of the reasons why people prefer live music to recorded music
have to do with most anything but the music itself.

>  Here's an admittedly extreme
> example. Say you attend a show by saxist Oliver Lake. The show is in a long
> narrow room with stone walls and low ceiling... ...you realize, he is
> playing with the acoustics of the room... ...What an astonishing experience!

Well... I haven't attended a concert like this yet. I admit there are concerts
that deal a lot with live acoustics, special rooms, 8-channel-P.A. etc. Those
of course can only be experienced live, which means they are not better than
records, but a recorded form is just not possible.  I just can't remember one
of those that I really liked though. Probably because I think that good music
doesn't need "tricks" like these. The events we are talking about here, and
they are the most common ones,  are concerts by artists who play live
aproximately what they play on records, more or less, and even if I really
like the live version of the music, most of the times it owes to all the
non-musical factors that I had tried to list in my examples. As you mention
Zappa... I saw a Zappa concert in Frankfurt, when was that? 80? I was like
half a mile away from the stage, saw a silouette of someone who could have
been Zappa close to the horizon and most of the time during the concert I
watched these sci-fi American soldiers with their tight black combat dresses
and shiny black helmets who acted as security guards. The music... well, when
I came home I put on the record (Roxy and Elsewhere period) and enjoyed it
much more than the entire concert.

> Moritz, what do you think of Fripp and Frippertronics? Have you ever gone
> to a Fripp show?

No...

> To my ears, Frippertronics live are a provocative, yummy
> mix of preprogrammed music and live improvisation on it--a fact that hit me
> at a Fripp show I attended recently.

I saw a concert, that could fit this description, by Fred Frith (the name even
sounds similar), so I think I can imagine what you're talking about. To me
those kind of events are often filed under performance rather than music. It's
possible that a concert turns me on, even if I don't like the music on CD. But
in that case most likely something (that is: a lot!) happened on stage that
had nothing to do with the music, and made me being so impressed. The Tiger
Lillies gig was a good example for this.

>  But if "live" recordings are the only way you get to hear
> the music, then you don't have any substantive point of comparison. It's
> easy to be satisfied with a concert recording of a band or solo musician
> who's left this veil of tears or no longer performs.

The starting point of this discussion was the statement, that a record can
never beat the experience of live music, and I had understood this statement
as a direct comparison between the music live on one hand and the music on
record on the other hand, and I just had to contradict to that. And one
argument was, that in the case of a recorded live concert it would be a
contradiction in itself, leading to my statement that all kinds of
outer-musical reasons are responsible for what people call their
live-experiences. To the extent of situations when even recorded music can get
a whole different meaning in very special circumstances of your life. Think of
DJs: I can be as excited about the gig of a good DJ as I can about a live
band. You simply have to differentiate these layers, if you make a heavy
statement like this pro-live music statement.
But OK, as always in threads like this, in the end you realize, that there are
too many different versions of what you talk about, that it is nearly
impossible to generalize. And that there are so many different people with
different points of views that questions like this have to be answered by
everyone individually. But we do make personal subjective statements in this
list, don't we? You can say that you like Arthur Lyman better than Martin
Denny or vice versa and try to find "proofs" for your opinions and you can
contradict to the arguments of others and maybe sometimes you learn something
from the discussion and maybe you even change your mind. I changed my mind
many times and when I just thought I knew what I'm thinking I started to drift
into the opposite direction.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) new exotica/easy/lounge sales
Date: 12 Mar 2000 23:18:39 EST


How big is the audience of the type of music discussed here
 in comparison to other music genres?

Fairly small

I heard that some of the lounge
 compilations of the last 5 years sold more than 100.000 units;

I can tell you (and I work in the business where I can pull Soundscan) that
this is totally false

cananybody confirm or disprove that? How much did the Martin Denny and Les
 Baxter original reissues sell so far?

Hovering around the 10,000 mark (some titles lower, some titles a bit higher)

Does new lounge music a la
 Combustible/Pizz5 et al sell better or less than reissues of old
 original lounge?

In most cases that is a hardy Yep

Ashley


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mr. Fodder" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 03/12
Date: 12 Mar 2000 22:33:19 -0800


The Friendly Persuasion Show  - Week of 03/13/00

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet
Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to
hear:

1.  Marcy - I Love Little Pussy
2.  The Food - And Your Hard Birds Night Thing
3.  The Polkaholics - Polkaholics Theme
4.  Frank Zappa - Stick It Out
5.  Margarita Pracatan - From Me To You
6.  Jonathan and Darlene Edwards - Stayin' Alive
7.  The Rangers - Let's Go Rangers
8.  Serge Gainsbourg - Qui Est In Qui Est Out
9.  Ann-Margret - C'est Si Bon
10.  Mrs. Yetta Bronstein - I Want To Hold Your Hand
11.  7-11 - Dance The Slurp
12.  Yma Sumac - Look Around
13.  Combustible Edison - Hot and Bothered
14.  Forbidden Five - Enchanted Farm
15.  Sunshine Day - I'm a Tiger
16.  Caesar Giovannini - Song of India Twist
17.  Leroy Holmes - Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
18.  The Barry Gemso Experience - Groovin' Happenin'
19.  Laurent Lombard - Bonbon Twistos
20.  Marlene Dietrich - Near You
21.  Ronald Shaw and his Orchestra - Goldfinger
22.  Miss Nelson & Bruce - Upside Down
23.  Franco De Gemini - Cheops and Nefertiti
24.  Astrud Gilberto - And Roses and Roses
25.  Maria Napoleon - Think of Rain
26.  Marlene Dietrich - Falling In Love Again
27.  The Supremes - A Lover's Concerto

Thanks for listening!
     Chow,
          Otis

Mr. Otis F-Odder
[e-mail]
Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com
View past playlists, find out where to order what you hear, listen to show
archives all at, www.thebranflakes.com/fp
To unsubscribe from this weekly email, just reply and say, "The only kind of
spam I want is the potted meat I dine on thank you very much" and you will
be off in a jiffy.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) new exotica/easy/lounge sales
Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:37:31 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> I heard that some of the lounge
>  compilations of the last 5 years sold more than 100.000 units;
>
> I can tell you (and I work in the business where I can pull Soundscan) that
> this is totally false

So how much do you think did Ultra Lounge et al sell?

> How much did the Martin Denny and Les
>  Baxter original reissues sell so far?
>
> Hovering around the 10,000 mark (some titles lower, some titles a bit higher)

That sounds likely. Only if you could file it under Swing it went much better,
didn't it? Like Exquivel for instance.

> Does new lounge music a la
>  Combustible/Pizz5 et al sell better or less than reissues of old
>  original lounge?
>
> In most cases that is a hardy Yep
>

So again: How many of the best-selling Pizzicato?

Thanks for your answers

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Michel Legrand
Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:44:12 +0000


Michel Legrand Plays for Dancers is the LP in question but it also has
another name. Is it Strings Aflame? something like that.

The two tracks De Ge Ging and Come Ray and Come Charles are the standouts
and the rest of the record does sound like its in string-overdrive mode but
it is still a good LP - I would recommend it but hardly ever play it and
probably would only ever put the aforementioned two tracks on a compilation
tape.

Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the weekend Umiliani / Brazil / Morricone OST Q
Date: 13 Mar 2000 13:29:59 -0000


2 New records this weekend (I deserved them after a very abstemious month).

Pierro Umiliani-Il Corpo
originally released in 1974,  a bit of a return to form after the
disappointing 'Legge de Gangsters' I reckon.  Although thats obviously just
a coincidence in the re-release schedules.  Its a double LP and another
lavish gatefold sleeve from Easy/Right Tempo (whichever it is) with an
excellent photo inside with Umiliani standing on Tip-Toe so that he can lean
nonchalantly on the Conga's and not be dwarfed by the films female star.
The sleevenotes say that the film is a version of 'The postman always rings
twice' set in the south seas.

The music is so wonderfully mellow - even the uptempo stuff,  it has the
feel of some of the slower stuff off 'Todays Sound', but with a smoother
production.  To me it also sounds like 'Sweden Heaven and Hell',  but
without the obvious 'Mah na Mah na' hit.  Some nice Synth leads, what sounds
suspiciously like a Mellotron, a small band for the most part.  Nice exotic
Marimbas (?) on one track. A lovely record.

The only problem I have with it are the number of duplicated cuts,  theres
one with the original version, extended version and alternative Intro (4
chords on a guitar before the normal version comes in).  But as a double its
probably only a little more expensive than a single LP would be I suppose.

Also
Brazilian Beats,
On 'Mr Bongo's Classic Brazilian Cuts' label.  Another double LP,  each side
themed,  side 1 is 'The carnival'  which has  Pete Hellers remix of
'Batacuda', a Masters at Work Track and a track which has had a great chunk
sampled (a whole verse chorus if it wasn't an instrumental,  ie a great BIG
chunk) on a recent House track, side 2 is Bossa Trio's,  which is Jazzy
Bossa Nova Trio's,  including the Great Ed Lincoln's Cochise (although if
thats a trio it must be organ, drums and trumpet with Lincoln playing bass
on the pedals).  Side 3 is God Made me Funky,  which I'm not sure about yet,
a bit slow, and lumpy I thought (but I've only played this side once).  And
side 4 is Exotic moods (I think),  a mix of Older stuff and the quite
bizarre 'Bob',  which has some very odd samples on it.

2 good double LPs,  I'm very happy.

There were also a couple of new Ennio Morricone soundtracks,  both from soft
porn films judging by the covers,  anyone have recommendations on these?

Back to work.....


El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 13 Mar 2000 09:38:00 -0500


In the spirit of King Kini's site (which just keeps getting better), I was
wondering; in the "same model" mode, who is the woman of "You Get More
Bounce With Curtis Counce"
http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/counce_c_cat.html (First album, left
hand corner)

and Russ Freeman's/Andre Previn's  "Double
Play"  http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/cat_previn.html  (First album,
left hand corner)  Contemporary 7537 and 7539.

Also, if she closed her mouth, would she photograph?

An unexpected crib in my book was the back of Miles Davis' Tutu and the
front of Ron McCroby plays Puccolo, a whistling album, both balding and
puckering.

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman
Date: 13 Mar 2000 16:09:26 +0100


the only thing i know is that he made hundreds of LP's in Germany. mostly
EZ core.


        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:23:07 -0500


Mo wrote:
>I think I said something like this too; However what I meant was, that in
>general I am more interested in records than in concerts.

And I guess I'm interested in music in general--greedy Mimi. Gimme gimme in
almost any format. Except for Celtic music. A penny whistle and fiddle
sounds, and pacifist I wanna reach for a revolver. Erin go blech.

>What I was basically talking about was, that I
>think, that most of the reasons why people prefer live music to recorded
>music >have to do with most anything but the music itself.

Yeah. Most people go to a show to hear and see the musicians replicate a
recorded tune they love--they want music "just like on the CD." (Labels
know that, musicians know that, you well know that from Ata Tak and your
bands, everybody knows recording cos. underwrite tours to "move product.")
And many people go to a concert to make a scene or hang with their pals,
etc. There's nothing wrong with that. Or they go to be wowed with a
performer's or band's charisma--that was what knocked me out when I saw
Caetano Veloso perform this summer. I expected to adore the music and I
did, no question. But I remember most of all the brilliance of Veloso's
performance. And small wonder most people go to shows for reasons other
than the music. Most live music gets distorted by how it's amped and mixed.
It's lame if it doesn't suck.

My experience sort of turns these patterns inside out, though. When I was
going to live shows a minimum of three x a week--as I did for two, three
years--the show was usually my introduction to the music and the musicians.
It changed how I listen to records or CDs. For instance, I came to prefer
live shows for certain kinds of music--with rap and jazz I'd go to hear the
mixing or to see performers riff off each other or to feel giant rhythm and
bass sounds rumble my gut or to catch the improvs. Really edgy alternative
or thrash or blues, I'd go for the energy and the volume and speed. Few
people have the extreme experience of hearing as much and as wide a variety
of live music as I. I'm not posturing or boasting here. All the concerting
I've done really reshaped how music in any form hits me.

I listen to recording studio music as much for how it's produced as for how
the music itself sounds. That must be why I went ape over Command and other
stereo action records. The music is produced to exploit recording studio
equipment, and that's one reason why I dig it so much. Hmm, hadn't realized
that before.


> I admit there are concerts
>that deal a lot with live acoustics, special rooms, 8-channel-P.A. etc. Tho=
se
>of course can only be experienced live....I just can't remember one
>of those that I really liked though. Probably because I think that good mus=
ic
>doesn't need "tricks" like these.

Er, Moritz, I don't think Oliver Lake's riffing off the acoustics of the
room was a "trick." That word discredits Lake's consummate artistry. The
fact is, he had the chops and experience to know the kinds of sounds his
horn could make, he had technique to make those sounds, and he had the
ingenuity to exploit the conditions in the room. Result? Lake created a
rare and superlative music, right on the spot. Very few musicians have that
combination of chops, musicality, creativity, skill, knowledge of their
instrument. Keith LB mentioned Bill Frissell-- I've never seen him perform
(dammit!) but he's probably one of the handful who could do it. John Zorn
too. Carla Bley.

>As you mention
>Zappa... I saw a Zappa concert in Frankfurt, when was that? 80? I was like
>half a mile away from the stage, saw a silouette of someone who could have
>been Zappa close to the horizon...well, when
>I came home I put on the record (Roxy and Elsewhere period) and enjoyed it
>much more than the entire concert.

GACK~! My condolences, Mo! Of course you'd prefer the record. You really
can't hear the music in those huge outdoor shows.

>I saw a concert, that could fit this description, by Fred Frith (the name e=
ven
>sounds similar), so I think I can imagine what you're talking about. To me
>those kind of events are often filed under performance rather than music.

And I'd probably slot that Veloso show there too.

>But we do make personal subjective statements in this
>list, don't we? ..and when I just thought I knew what I'm thinking I
>started to drift>into the opposite direction.

Yup, me too. Viva eXotica. Thanks for a bracing debate, Mo.

Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman
Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:51:57 -0500


Johan wrote
>the only thing i know is that he made hundreds of LP's in Germany. mostly
>EZ core.

Just as I suspected. Bet that's why so many people on BJ's samba list
dissed Ogerman's arrangements. Thanks for the info, Johan and BJ. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits]Hayward Cirker,Nim Chimpskey,George Siravo,Tommy Thompson,Elizabeth Chase,Walter Dana
Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:47:29 -0500


    NEW YORK (AP) -- Hayward Cirker, the founder and president of
eclectic paperback publisher Dover Publications, died Wednesday in
Roslyn, N.Y. He was 82.
    Cirker built Dover into a paperback powerhouse by delving deep
into the public domain and reprinting thousands of out-of-print
novels, illustrations, manuals and scientific texts.
    The company's titles ranged from ancient tragedy to ``Build Your
Own Inexpensive Dollhouse.'' Dover books almost always had
attractive covers, low prices and intriguing titles like ``The
Egyptian Book of the Dead,'' ``Three Prophetic Novels by H.G.
Wells'' or ``The History of Underclothes.''
    Founded in 1941 with his wife, Blanche, Dover grew rapidly in
the 1950s, riding the public's appetite for cheap paperbacks,
skipping the pulp romances and detective novels favored at the time
and continuing to find quirky classics and practical fare.
    One of the company's best sellers proved to be a little-known
theoretical work by Albert Einstein -- one which the scientist had
said he thought did not merit a reprint.
    Included in Dover's large catalog are 60 Nobel Prize winners and
some high-end publications, including clothbound editions of the
writings of Henry David Thoreau.
    By the 1980s, Dover had grown into a $15 million-a-year
publishing house, and remained privately held. Cirker visited the
company offices three days a week until his death.
-------------
Friday March 10, 3:17 pm Eastern Time
SOURCE: Fund for Animals

Nim, World's Most Famous Sign Language Chimp, Dies at Age 26, Reports
Fund for Animals

MURCHISON, Texas, March 10 /PRNewswire/ -- It is with great sadness that
The Fund for Animals announces the passing of Nim, the world's most
famous chimpanzee, who died of heart failure today at The Fund for
Animals' Black Beauty Ranch in Murchison, Texas. He was 26 years old.

Nim was taken from his mother at the University of Oklahoma when he was
three days old, and sent to New York as part of a research program to
determine whether chimpanzees could learn sign language. Nim was the
quickest learner of sign language in chimp history, learning more than
300 signs.

When Nim was nine years old, the research program lost funding, and he
was sent to a laboratory to be used in hepatitis experiments. The Fund
for Animals prevailed upon the university to allow Nim instead to live
out his days peacefully at Black Beauty Ranch. Nim came to live at Black
Beauty Ranch in 1983, and lived there happily for seventeen years.

Says Marian Probst, President of The Fund for Animals, ``Nim was not
only the most famous animal under the care of The Fund for Animals, but
was perhaps the most beloved. He communicated freely with our staff and
visitors, and he told us about his likes and dislikes, his thoughts and
feelings. We are confident that he not only died peacefully, but that he
also lived peacefully.''
------
L.A. Times --- Saturday, March 11, 2000

George Siravo; Arranger for Sinatra, Composer

     George Siravo, 83, a pop music composer, arranger and conductor who was
a longtime associate of Frank Sinatra. Born on Staten Island, N.Y., Siravo
learned alto saxophone as a youth and joined Harry Reser's Clicquot Club
Eskimos at 17. Five years later he joined Glenn Miller's first band and
stayed there a year before joining the Gene Krupa band in 1938 as a sideman
and arranger. He became a staff arranger and conductor for Columbia Records
after working for "Your Hit Parade," a popular radio show, in the 1940s.
While at Columbia, Siravo began arranging up-tempo music for Sinatra's
nightclub show, and in some ways his tunes served as a model for the music
Sinatra made when he switched to Capitol Records in the early 1950s. Siravo
was the arranger on "Swing and Dance With Frank Sinatra," "Portrait of
Sinatra" and "Frank Sinatra With Red Norvo Quintet: Live in Australia." He
also worked with Tony Bennett, arranging and conducting the singer's "Who
Can I Turn To" album. On Feb. 28 at home in Medford, Ore.
-----------
From the Washington Post --
Tommy Thompson,Producer

Tommy Thompson, 73, the veteran producer of television's "The Lucy Show" who
also worked extensively on the films of Robert Altman, died March 10 after a
heart attack. He was stricken near Baker, Calif., during location shooting
of an Altman film that he was co-producing, "Dr. T & The Women."

The producer made his mark with Lucille Ball's long-running comedic series
from 1962 to 1974. He worked extensively in television, most recently as one
of the producers, along with Harry and Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, of the
series "Designing Women," which ran from 1986 to 1993.

Over the past three decades, beginning with Altman's 1971 film "McCabe and
Mrs. Miller," Mr. Thompson also had worked as assistant director and
producer of about a dozen Altman motion pictures, including "A Wedding,"
"The Long Goodbye," "California Split," "Nashville," "Buffalo Bill and the
Indians," "Three Women" and "Cookie's Fortune."
-------
SANFORD, Fla. (AP) -
When screen legend Hedy Lamarr died, she left her stamp collection to her 11-year-old
grandson, her estate to her children, and $83,000 to a police officer who occasionally ran
errands for her.

Lamarr, who starred in films including ``Tortilla Flat'' and ``Samson and Delilah'' and
was once billed as the world's most beautiful woman, died Jan. 19 at age 86.

Her will was filed Friday in Seminole County Circuit Court, and it contained a few
surprises.

In addition to Lamarr's son and daughter, the list of those she picked to share her wealth
included her personal secretary, a California engineer she had never met and Altamonte
Springs Police Lt. Chuck Stansel.

Stansel met Lamarr late in her life while delivering a message and befriended her after
she called him to request an errand. His family eventually became regular guests at
Lamarr's home, helping her shop for groceries and visiting the Austrian-born actress at
least twice a week.
-------------
The March 13 issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter
that Pro Wrestler Elizabeth Chase died on Feb. 26 in Costa Rica while under
going liposuction surgery.  Chase had been a professional wrestler for over 20
years, most recently wrestling for Florida Champioship Wrestling.
------
NY Times --- March 13, 2000
Walter Dana, Polka Promoter, Dies at 96
By DOUGLAS MARTIN

 Walter Dana, who propelled polka music to a new prominence in postwar
America after a varied career in popular music in Poland, died on March
4 in Miami Beach. He was 96.

Having exposed the Poles to American jazz before the war, Mr. Dana took
polkas to new audiences when he founded Dana Records in New York in
1945. It became the top Polish music label, introducing artists well
known in the field like Frank Wojnarowski, Ray Henry, Gene Wisniewski
and Johnnie Bomba.

See rest of obit at:
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-w-dana.html



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ponak, David" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 3/11/00
Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:01:23 -0800


The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7
FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County).

Also check out my show  The Nice Age at  http://www.spikeradio.com on Sunday
afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST.

I'll be out of town for South By Southwest this week, so there will be no
Liquid Room until 3/25!

The Liquid Room-3/11/00:

1.The Association-Come On In
Birthday (Warner Bros.)

2.Synergy-Classical Gas
Semi-Conductor Release 2 (Chronicles)

3.The Black Panthers-Day Tripper
Good Night Tokyo (Readymade-Japan)

4.Mansfield-Mansfield Theme
Viva La Generation Readymade 2000 (Readymade-Japan)

5.Beachwood Sparks-This Is What It Feels Like
Beachwood Sparks (Subpop)

6.Peter Sarstedt-Frozen Orange Juice
Story Of Pop (UA-Germany)

7.Great 3-Soul Glow
Without Onion (EMI-Japan)

8.101 Strings Featuring The Alshire Singers-Bennie & The Jets
Songs Made Famous By Elton John (Alshire)

9.Rocky Chack-Change
Single (Midi-Japan)

10.Munich Machine-In Love With Love
Munich Machine (Casablanca)

11.Kid Koala-Fender Bender
Carpal Tunnel Syndrome (Ninja Tune)

12.Brian Eno-Backwater
Before And After Science (EG)

13.Maki Nomiya (?)
Viva La Generation Readymade 2000 (Readymade-Japan)

14.Jake H. Concepcion & The Jazz Rock Band-On Any Sunday
Midnight Tokyo (Readymade-Japan)

15.Puffy (Yumi solo)-V.A.C.A.T.I.O.N.

16.Tahiti 80-I.S.A.A.C.
Single (Atmospheriques-France)

17.Reparata & The Delrons-Bye Bye Baby
Whenever A Teenager Cries (World Artists)

18.D'Angelo-Spanish Joint
Voodoo (Virgin)

19.The Lovin' Spoonful-Didn't Want To Have To Do It
Anthology (Rhino)

20.Okazaki Hiroshi & His Stargazers-Quiet Village
A Compilation (Readymade-Japan)

21.Wayne Newton-Rhythm Rhapsody
Night Eagle 1 (Aries II)

22.Herbie Hancock-Earth Beat
Future Shock (Columbia)

23.Japancakes-Version 1
Down The Elements (Kindercore)

24.The Residents-Please Please Please
George & James (East Side Digital)

25.The Residents-Kaw-liga
Stars & Hanks Forever (East Side Digital)

26.Kuniko Yamada-? (Produced by Harry Hosono)

27.Liberace-Parks & Recreation (Medley of Cherry Hill Park, McArthur Park, &
Echo Park)
A Brand New Me (Warner Bros.)

28.Papas Fritas-Far From An Answer
Buildings & Grounds (Minty Fresh)

29.T-Bones-Paint It Black
Everyone's Gone To The Moon (And Other Trips) (Liberty)

30.Yukari Fresh-Raymond (Erobique Remix)
Escalator Records Tokyo (Bungalow-Germany) Thank you Jill Mingo!

31.Lisa Go-Kara Kara
Moonbeams (Sapphire)

32.William DeVaughn-Be Thankful For What You've Got
Didn't It Blow Your Mind-Soul Hits Of The 70's Vol. 12 (Rhino)

33.Comoestas-Mambo Kuroneko
Viva La Generation Readymade 2000 (Readymade-Japan)

34.Thunderball-Late Nite Trick
Ambassadors Of Style (ESL)

35.The Critters-A Moment Of Being With You
Touch 'N Go (Project 3)

36.Terry Callier-Sunset Blvd.
Life (Blue Thumb)

37.Lee Hazlewood-Don't Get Around Much Anymore
Farmisht, Flatulence, Origami, ARF!!! And Me (SLR)

38.Akira Ishikawa-The Dawning Of Love
Good Night Tokyo (Readymade-Japan)

39.Ananda Shankar Experience and State Of Bengal-Jungle Symphony
Walking On (Realworld)

40.The Sunrays-I Was A Loser
Vintage Rays (Collectables)

41.Rayko-Money To The Bank
Crave (Source One)

42.The Crystals-He Hit Me (And It Felt Like A Kiss)
The Best Of (Abco)

43.Etienne Charry-Raye Du Bottin
36 Erreurs (Kindercore)

44.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On
Someday Man (Reprise)


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogermann
Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:11:23 +0100


Johan Dada Vis wrote:

> the only thing i know is that he made hundreds of LP's in Germany. mostly EZ
> core.

Really? I've never seen any single one of them, neither on flee markets, nor
in second hand stores. Are you saying he published these album under his own
name?

If you read his bio, it doesn't look at all like he's into "EZ core". It
rather looks like he's into serious classical stuff, but who knows. I am not
an Ogermann specialist.


Claus Ogermann Biography

Composer, arranger, conductor, and pianist Claus Ogermann was born on April
29, 1930 in Ratibor, Germany (now Raciborz, Poland). He studied music in
Nuremburg: piano with Ernst Groeschel, Jr., and theory/conducting with Karl
Demmer. He worked in Baden-Baden with Kurt Edelhagen and in Munich with Max
Greger (for five years). He began his career primarily as a pianist. By the
early 60s, he had firmly established himself on the studio scene as a musician
of considerable repute, as well as a distinctive and inventive arranger and
composer. He composed the scores for 14 German films. He moved to New York
City, USA in 1959, where he has remained ever since, although his many
assignments have taken him all over the world. By 1963 he had become Musical
Director for Verve Records, working on recordings by Bill Evans,
Antonio Carlos Jobim, Oscar Peterson, and Cal Tjader (the "Soul Sauce"
albums). Claus and producer Creed Taylor joined with Herb Alpert's A&M label,
where he worked with Paul Desmond and others. His other collaborations include
work with Quincy Jones, Stan Getz, Wes Montgomery, Frank Sinatra, Astrud
Gilberto, Joao Donato, Benny Goodman, Randy Brecker, Gidon Kremer, Leslie
Gore, Barbra Streisand, producer Tommy Lipuma, George Benson, Michael Franks,
and others, from jazz through film and pop to modern classical music. He has
written scores for Bill Evans, Stan Getz, Freddie Hubbard, and Stanley
Turrentine, among
others.

Since the 1970s, Claus has devoted himself almost exclusively to serious
composition. His commissions and projects include a ballet score for the
American Ballet Theatre (Some Times), a work for jazz piano and orchestra
(Symbiosis) for Bill Evans, a work for saxophone and orchestra (Cityscape,
which includes Symphonic Dances) for Michael Brecker, a song cycle
(Tagore-Lieder) after poems by Rabindranath Tagore that was recorded by Met
soprano Judith Blegen and mezzo-soprano Brigitte Fassbaender, Concerto Lirico
and Sarabande-Fantasie for violin and orchestra that was recorded by Aaron
Rosand, 10 Songs for Chorus A-Capella After Poems by Georg Heym that was
recorded by the Cologne Radio Chorus, a work for violin and orchestra
(Preludio and Chant recorded by world-renowned violinist Gideon Kremer, and
many more.

Ogermann is not primarily concerned with "modernism" per se - his goal is to
evoke emotional response in the listener. His major influences include Max
Reger and Alexander Scriabin.


( all taken from http://www.gator.net/~jgower/ogermann/disc.html )


Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogermann
Date: 13 Mar 2000 13:25:59 -0500


This seems to be slipping by, but wasn't Claus Ogermann associated somehow
with Quincy Jones in the early 60s? He arranged and conducted a lot of
Lesley Gore's hits.


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Biggest Schlager cover site in the world
Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:33:04 +0100


I have been knowing this for a while, but as it has gotten so much
bigger meanwhile I post it again. Hundreds of record covers...

http://www.online.prevezanos.com/schlager
http://www.online.prevezanos.com/girlpop

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:40:41 +0100




Mimi Mayer wrote:

> Viva eXotica. Thanks for a bracing debate, Mo.

My pleasure!

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:45:02 +0100


Are you saying you visited up to 400 concerts in those 2 and a half years???
Well.. now I feel like an absolute layman in things "live"...

Mo

Mimi Mayer wrote:

> When I was going to live shows a minimum of three x a week--as I did for two,
> three
> years



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) records and bachelorhood
Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:13:10 -0500


I know that many of you on the list - if not most of you - have families,
kids or at least significant others.  So maybe you don't relate to this.
In the last two weeks, I haven't been quite the bachelor that I've been for
the last number of years.
And I find myself thinking about records way way less often.
As a matter of fact, sometimes I even forget about them.
And often I find myself just wanting to put on a CD, rather than fiddling
around with records.
Yes I know this will probably change when the rose is off the bloom.
Although it's more likely that she'll just leave.
But suddenly I don't really want all these records around me.  And it's not
because "she" doesn't want me to have them.  She seems fine with them.
As a matter of fact, she was supportive - even enthusiastic - when we
stopped at the Goodwill store yesterday after shopping for a new shower
curtain and other necessities I've been ignoring.
It's more the fact that suddenly there's less space in my head and a little
less time in the day.  And it feels like having all these records was some
kind of representation of all the time I spent thinking about them.
As if I needed a certain amount of "weight" to sufficiently represent the
space it occupied in my (obsessive) thought processes.
All I ever really needed to do was cruise through the bins, find a few
cheap things I wasn't familiar with, take em home and unearth the buried
gems.  I never really needed to keep them afterwards.
Except in order to make tapes.
My film - which is having its world premiere (finally) at the Hot Docs
festival here in Toronto - basically argues that record accumulation is NOT
about the music.
But right now, if I could digitally archive all my favorite cuts, I think I
could get rid of 75% of the stuff and not miss it.
I don't think I need the object like I once did when my life was a bit
emptier.
Just thought I'd share that.
Stay tuned and within the year, I'll put a huge list up.  I'm sure I won't
want to deal with selling individual records but I might be up for selling
by the box.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:34:44 -0500


At 10:23 AM 3/13/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote:

> For instance, I came to prefer
>live shows for certain kinds of music--. Really edgy alternative
>or thrash or blues, I'd go for the energy and the volume and speed.

Most of the time, if I'm in the mood to go sit in a bar and hear live
music, I really don't care who or what I see.  A good ole fashioned bar
band playing blues covers with long guitar solos?  Fine.  It's an
experience that transcends the actual music.
A LOT of stuff that I've loved live was way way better than the records.
I saw Hounddog Taylor a dozen times, whooped and hollered and got my mojo
working... but his records suck.
I loved Wayne Cochrane, the poor man's white James Brown. I've never even
seen his records but I doubt they'd compare to his show.
On the other hand, I have seen some great shows by artists with great
records.  Don't groan but Springsteen is an example.  But even in his case,
though I was really happy to have the experience of those shows, it's still
the records with which I forged a relationship.
I sort of look at it like this.  Live music is a group experience.  And to
some degree, it's a packaged experience.  You CAN have an individual
experience at a show but to a great degree, you're participating in a
ritual which is designed to create certain emotions.  For everyone.
Records are more like drugs.  The experience is a mixture of the general
effect of the drugs and the specific body chemisty that they enter.
Or to put it another way...  Records are more individually interactive.
My experience with each record is as much about ME as it is about the
record.  The experience is determind by the times I choose to play it, the
volume I choose, what I'm doing, whether I'm reading or writing or just
listening, what mood I'm in, how I choose to think of it, what images are
created, what's happening in my life at that moment, who I share it with.
It's like the difference between praying in church and praying by yourself.
 I'm not sure since I don't do either.  But if I did, I'd probably get more
out of the one I do by myself, unmediated by the crowds or by the gatekeepers.
I could go on and make more analogies but since Mo and Mimi are the only
ones reading at this point, I can assume that they're making their own
analogies already.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Claus Ogerman on Kai Winding LPs
Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:36:03 -0800


In doing work on another project this morning, I just happen to notice
that the arranger/conductor Claus Ogerman is also present on some Kai
Winding trombone LPs I own.  He arranged two tracks on Kai Winding, "More
Brass", Verve #V6-8657 (1966), as well as some of the tracks on Kai
Winding, "Mondo Cane #2", Verve #V6-8573 (1965).  He may be listed on
other Winding LPs as well.  This should convince those who only associate
Mr. Ogerman with "lush" string/heavy orchestral arrangements of Jobim &
Gilberto that he was certainly capable of arranging without the inclusion
of strings.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 13 Mar 2000 11:44:41 -0800


>I could go on and make more analogies but since Mo and Mimi are the only
>ones reading at this point, I can assume that they're making their own
>analogies already.

???  I submitted a post on this subject on 3/11 as well.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Astro Sounds  101 Strings
Date: 13 Mar 2000 12:21:43 PST


1) IS this worth buying
2) Is it worth buying for $8.50, (pretty good shape, stereo).

Thanks heaps

A. Fish
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Michael Greenberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Heal this turntable!
Date: 13 Mar 2000 15:34:22 -0500


Hi - I recognize this is not about exotica, but since we have so many
vinyl hounds on this list, I hope you don't mind me asking the
following:

I have a Harmon-Kardon Festival 4, which is an all in one (Garrard
turntable, radio, cassette) unit, which I bought used. It seems to
play 12" records without a problem, but when I play 7" or 10"
records, the needle and tonearm hangup at the very end of the
record. In other words the arm is being pulled back toward the
beginning of the record, causing a skip.

I have the manual and have done the setup routine, even playing around
with the settings (I have scanned the relevant page in the manual, if
there is someone who would like to see it, but didn't want to attach
it to this posting as it might cause some download problems for some
people).

First, I set the tracking weight at 0 grams, move the counterweight to
approximately where the tonearm is parallel to the playing surface.
Then I tighten the set screw for the counterweight and turn the
counterweight until it gets as close to parallel as possible.  I set
the tracking weight at 3 grams, as specified, and the anti-skate
countrol to between 2 and 4 (in other words 3, as it is supposed to
match the tracking weight).  It seems if I move the counterweight
forward, this slightly lessens, but doesn't completely eliminate the
problem. I can't see anything mechanical that is causing the problem,
but I haven't taken apart the unit to see if there is an
obstruction/mechanical problem inside.

I don't want to play any records I care about on this unit until I can
hopefully resolve this problem.

Thanks in advance to any and all who may have answers to this problem!

Michael


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 13 Mar 2000 15:35:35 -0500


An incredulous Moritz asked,
>Are you saying you visited up to 400 concerts in those 2 and a half years??=
?

Close to it. It was probably closer to 3 and a half years when I pretty
much lived to hear live music. Towards the end, I tapered off to one or two
shows a week. At the height of the period, at least once a month, I'd go to
an evening show, probably in an auditorium or concert hall, then to a
second late-night show in a club. I was lucky to live in Detroit, a great
music town that was a one-hour drive from Ann Arbor, another great music
town. Both places landed on a lot of tour itineraries. The City of Detroit
also hosted tons of free outdoor concerts when it wasn't under a foot of
snow...like the Montreaux-Detroit Jazz Festival, the Blues Festival, Ethnic
=46estivals that booked all kinds of acts from overseas, etc. Not only that,
I worked for an opera company during a chunk of that music-madness period,
so my workaday world was spent in showland. You know how opera divas are
reputed to be temperamental?  Well, in my experience, those reputations are
deserved.

It was expensive and exhausting and I'm so glad I did it. Now I'm a jaded
old fart who mostly stays home and listens to records. :)

Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Diana Dors
Date: 13 Mar 2000 13:43:57 -0800


 I've been looking for _any_ cds available by Diana Dors. I've tried some of the obvious routes like Collector's Choice, CDNow and Rhino but with absolutely no luck. Does anyone know if there are any cds out there by her?

 Thanks, too, to everyone who helped out with my Alvino Rey quest! Zzzzzing!

  ~~ Paul ~~


MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime!
http://www.mailcity.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Claus Ogerman on Kai Winding LPs
Date: 13 Mar 2000 17:53:54 EST



In a message dated 3/13/0 2:38:21 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Claus Ogerman is also present on some Kai
>Winding trombone LPs

And here he is again, this time on Cal Tjader's "Warm Wave" on Verve which
features "soft subtle Cal Tjader inprovisations on an imposing collection of
ballads played against enticing string and small group backgrounds arranged
by Claus Ogerman." Not my favorite Tjader OR Ogerman. "Watusi Trumpets" and
"Saxes Mexicanos" each do it for me...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Astro Sounds  101 Strings
Date: 13 Mar 2000 17:54:42 EST



In a message dated 3/13/0 3:34:25 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>1) IS this worth buying
>2) Is it worth buying for $8.50, (pretty good shape, stereo).

Yup


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman on Kai Winding LPs
Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:12:57 -0500


At 11:36 AM 3/13/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:

> This should convince those who only associate
>Mr. Ogerman with "lush" string/heavy orchestral arrangements of Jobim &
>Gilberto that he was certainly capable of arranging without the inclusion
>of strings.

When I think of Claus, I think of "Watusi Trumpets", his classic
contribution to the groovy Now Sound genre.  He also made a few other
similar records including "Saxes Mexicanos".  For a fuller list, ask br.Cleve.
I also think of the groovy Mel Torme record "I'm coming home".
(As a matter of fact, those of you in the exoticaring are in for a triple
dose of Claus if and when my tape ever finds its way to you.)
And then, as someone just mentioned, there's his contribution to the Kai
Winding records.
I don't know where the idea came from that he's some string-heavy arranger.
In fact, this is the first I've heard of him being associated with such stuff.
But I'm not surprised.  I already knew you shouldn't look at a couple of
credits and think you got the guy pegged.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 13 Mar 2000 18:00:15 -0500


So Nat, explain please...
>I sort of look at it like this.  Live music is a group experience.  And to
>some degree, it's a packaged experience.  You CAN have an individual
>experience at a show but to a great degree, you're participating in a
>ritual which is designed to create certain emotions....

and

>Records are more like drugs. ... The experience is determined by the times
>I choose to play it,...what's happening in my life at that moment, who I
>share it with.

So you're saying that with a live show, it's more likely the context is
provided for you while with recorded music, it more likely you provide the
context? I'd go along with that. Of course things get lots murkier when you
first hear a recording after hearing music live. I don't think the converse
is true. However, I won't spew out another 10K message explaining why. Mimi





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings
Date: 14 Mar 2000 00:02:17 GMT




definitely worth having for that price.

I think the best track is "karma sitar" one of the bonus tracks from another
101 strings album called "Sounds Today". "Whiplash" is pretty cool/bent as
well. EZ listening strayed into some pretty pervy areas back then.

most of the Astro Sounds album was originally made as an album by the
Animated Egg. A 101 strings were added to that album and presto! the gods
gave us "Astro Sounds". At least I think that's how it happened. I may
indeed be wrong but I don't care.

I think too that, upon examination, Albert Fish was found to have a 101 pins
in and around his genitalia. Pins apparently are better than wine when it
comes to dining on neighbourhood children.

i hope you are not really named Albert Fish. that would be an embarassment
indeed.

jb
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogerman on Kai Winding LPs
Date: 13 Mar 2000 16:03:44 -0800


>I don't know where the idea came from that he's some string-heavy =
arranger.

The idea came from some Brazilian music fans on another list who =
haven't listened to his other U.S. albums and the tons of other =
things he's done that were mentioned in that Claus bio that was =
posted here.  If all you listened to were a number of =
Ogerman-arranged Jobim albums (especially Urubu, A Certain Mr. Jobim, =
Terra Brasilis and some others--as well as Jo=E3o Gilberto's =
"Amoroso" LP), you could see why some people would think that he is =
"string-heavy".  However, I maintain that there is *nothing* wrong =
with such a reputation anyway--even if those types of arrangements =
were all that Claus did (which, they aren't).

That discography list URL that Mo posted is pretty revealing and =
shows just how diverse Claus is as an arranger.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman
Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:53:18 EST


But, Ogerman was a professional making records in different styles.  His
"Watusi Trumpets" is a really cool now sound/surf LP -- a fave of many
exoticats.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re: records/bachelorhood vs. married life/kids
Date: 14 Mar 2000 01:31:10 GMT



maybe bachelorhood substitutes an oft busy stereo for an oft empty bed.
maybe it makes doting over the record collection the supplement for doting
over kids. maybe the collector is proud of his vinyl and its rarity, just as
the parent is proud of his kids and their rare talents. so maybe collecting
is something you ought to grow out of for the sake of the little 'uns.

or not... maybe kids are the bastard-supplement of collecting not the other
way 'round. which is, or ought to be, the substitute for which? and do we
need substitutes at all?: maybe a lot of people are happy to be both
collector and parent - even more.

i don't think you should give up one for the other. we should all be as
hybrid as our enjoyment permits us. in other words: be both collector and
family guy. and after all, virtually anyone can be a parent, but by far the
majority of people are uninterested in pursuing rare collections. so if you
think you should cultivate what positively differentiates you from most
people not what makes you standard-issue, then by all means keep collecting
alongside the family-life thing. I don't see why this should be an either/or
situation.

But, you might say, isn't there something wretchedly selfish about all this
collecting? isn't there something thoroughly narcissistic about collecting,
or at least about the energy one devotes to it at the expense of things like
having a family? for it seems as if one invests a great deal of energy into
making one's identity through the amassing of objects (albeit the most
sophisticated of objects: art). a collection is you and these things, but
you and these things is you alone. a family, though, is entirely different:
you and they is a social unit. whereas your collection gives your own image
back to you, your kids do something entirely different. they're not
reducible to you. they're other people which do and do not reflect who you
are.

but, i might say in reply, so what if its narcissistic? is this narcissism
always bad? as long as it doesn't close other avenues down absolutely why
not let it ring on alongside the other routes? having kids is great but
there's something worthwhile in collecting too. there's creativity to it and
creativity is above-average. a collection is a strange union of consumption
and production: it's not simple utilitarian buying, and its not
straighforward creation (like say, paintings and piano compositions are) -
its somewhere in between. you produce the distinct form of the overall
collection, and you do it as a reflection of your taste; but at the same
time it is just made up of scraps you've found and bought at various
locations (the thrift store, the record store, etc.). we even live at a time
where the production of music is itself very often bred with the collection
of it (sampling, DJ culture etc.) parallells might even be made with the
visual arts and film. the point is that the line between collecting and
creating isn't rock solid. (that's why, perhaps, one might argue that
there's something equally narcissistic in the production of art, though we
hardly ever bring artists to task for that).

okay, okay. i'll close. i just wanted to suggest a) that you need not, at
least in this case, exclude one lifestyle at the expense of another, and b)
that you can conceive of collecting in such a way that stresses what is
creative and unique in it, not just what is dweeby and stunted in it.
virtually all people on this earth will procreate, but only a very few will
ever bother unearthing the forgotten sights and sound this world has hidden
in itself. kudos to those who bother...

J. Brouwer

ps. i've got nuthin' against having little 'uns though they haven't sprung
from my loins yet. no kids. no wife either. pretty lonely all around though
one hopes the future will differ from the past.
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's gogo gals
Date: 13 Mar 2000 21:16:33 -0500 (EST)



>At 10:33 AM 10-03-00 -0500, DjVinny wrote:
>>GoGo performances by Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation
>
>does Carrie do it weilding an axe?  I guess this means they don't
>serve alcohol at Pan's Box.>:)>Byron

 Actually...none of the gogo gals at Pandora's Box really need any weapons. Some of the criteria
in order to become a Pandora gogo dancer requires: a black belt/masters in karate,judo,jujitsu,a
pair of  deadly gogo boots, & of course a Hullabaloo dance certificate...in other words...these
ladies really know how to take care of themselves.(Just ask the poor guy in the hospital who tried
to stuff a dollar in one of the girls tops at my 60's Tokyo garage & monster fest last November!)
As for drinks...I hear they serve a great lemon drop martini.
     :)
    Vinny




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: records/bachelorhood vs. married life/kids
Date: 13 Mar 2000 19:22:29 -0800


>okay, okay. i'll close. i just wanted to suggest a) that you need not, at
>least in this case, exclude one lifestyle at the expense of another, and b)
>that you can conceive of collecting in such a way that stresses what is
>creative and unique in it, not just what is dweeby and stunted in it.
>virtually all people on this earth will procreate, but only a very few will
>ever bother unearthing the forgotten sights and sound this world has hidden
>in itself. kudos to those who bother...

Nice; couldn't have said it better myself.  And we'll see in six months
if Nat still feels the same way...yes, relationships do tend to distract
one (especially in the initial phase), but in my experience, that
definitely does wear off after a while.

I've always had hobbies my entire life, whether or not I was in a
meaningful relationship at the time.  They are very important, serve
useful purposes, and in the end, you always have opportunities to share
your knowledge of a particular subject with others.  That should be what
it's all about; not just selfish mass-collecting.  I disagree with the
spirit of the "he who dies with the most toys, [in this case, recordings]
wins".  That has always had a bad connotation to me.  The true spirit of
collecting and spending money and time on any hobby or interest should be
for the sharing of knowledge first and personal enjoyment second.  The
more you share, the more you will get back in return.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) new exotica/easy/lounge sales
Date: 13 Mar 2000 22:33:40 -0500


At 4:37 AM -0500 3/13/00, Moritz R wrote:

>> Does new lounge music a la
>>  Combustible/Pizz5 et al sell better or less than reissues of old
>>  original lounge?

I don't  know about P5 sales in the U.S., but I do know that the biggest
selling discs of the EZ scene were the first Combustible Edison, "I
Swinger", and the first Esquivel, "Space Age Bachelor Pad Music", both of
which sold around 75,000 units in Soundscan in the U.S. (SABP may be up
around 100K by now). Soundscan only includes stores which report to them,
which therefore does not include a lot of independent record stores. The
Esquivel disc was only licensed for the U.S.; the ComEd album was also
released in Europe and Asia.

The 1-2 punch of these 2 albums, which were released within a few months of
each other in 1994, kicked off the media/record label frenzy known as the
'lounge movement', which lasted until around '98. Subsequent 'lounge'
record sales were not as impressive; some were downright terrible.
Capitol's UltraLounge series, taken as a whole, did OK.

br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The new Nat!
Date: 13 Mar 2000 23:16:30 -0500


Nat wrote:

> In the last two weeks, I haven't been quite the bachelor that I've been
for
> the last number of years.
> And I find myself thinking about records way way less often.
> As a matter of fact, sometimes I even forget about them.
> And often I find myself just wanting to put on a CD, rather than fiddling
> around with records.
Ah yes, and an eye-opening experience it must be at that!  You think this is
a big change... just wait if or until kids appear! (No I'm not trying to
rush or pressure you). Just that it then becomes a question of simply not
having the time, let alone the energy and.or inclination to shop, or change
a record for that matter! And you know what, you will somehow manage it
fine.

Anyway, I think I speak for all on the list in wishing you all the best and
the hope your new relationship works out. Let it happen, don't think about
it or try to rationalize too much, and just enjoy yourself  (for a change!)





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings
Date: 14 Mar 2000 00:11:58 EST



In a message dated 3/13/0 7:04:37 PM, you wrote:

<<definitely worth having for that price.

I think the best track is "karma sitar" one of the bonus tracks from another
101 strings album called "Sounds Today". "Whiplash" is pretty cool/bent as
well. EZ listening strayed into some pretty pervy areas back then.
>>
 The extra tracks are only on the cd, and I think the original post had to do
with the original vinyl.  I think the vinyl is worth it, but I also think
that some of the best tracks are on the cd re-issue.

Bob


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Kindeygarden (late reply)
Date: 14 Mar 2000 00:29:06 EST


My son, who is 7 now, used to scream and cry horribly when he was an infant
(around 8 months old) every time I tried to play Tom Jones in the car.  The
first time he obviously really enjoyed a particular piece of music was when
he heard a group of mentally deficient musicians play "Pomp and Circumstance"
(thank you , WFMU). He didn't care about the rest of the tape, but when that
cut came on he would smile and clap. He later got into the Beatles and Elvis
with no real prodding from me.
I  now have a 6 week old daughter who seems to calm down whenever I play
"Satellite 99" by Ana D.  I just pray that she avoids Barney the way my son
did.
Bob


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Matt Hinrichs" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Claus Ogermann
Date: 13 Mar 2000 23:07:41 -0700


m. ace wrote:

> This seems to be slipping by, but wasn't Claus Ogermann associated somehow
> with Quincy Jones in the early 60s? He arranged and conducted a lot of
> Lesley Gore's hits.

Yes - he arranged nearly all of the Lesley Gore/Quincy Jones stuff. One
thing that always strikes me is how *perfect* these songs sound - not a
string or tinkly piano out of place. Even on some obscure LP cut like "I'm
Coolin' No Foolin'".

Having never heard O.'s own albums, does his own material sound like
Lesley's, but without vocals? You know, incredibly bright and perky?

- Matt

Matt Hinrichs [e-mail]
In My Room - Fabulous Sounds, Updated Monthly
http://www.psn.net/~blue/room.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Astro Sounds 101 Strings
Date: 14 Mar 2000 01:20:19 EST


<<The extra tracks are only on the cd, and I think the original post had to
do
 with the original vinyl.  I think the vinyl is worth it, but I also think
 that some of the best tracks are on the cd re-issue. >>

I brought this up not long ago, inspired by a tip-off from the master of
thrift store bizarre vinyl, Will, of Show and Tell Music.  The mystery was
solved.

Two of those bonus tracks, Instant Nirvana and Whiplash come from "The Exotic
Sounds Of Love" (not to be confused with The Sounds Of Love).  I had never
seen this "adults only" 101 Strings rarity until Mickey McGowan pulled it
from his warehouse shelf to show it to me.  Inside the gatefold cover is a
rather dominent looking chick with an eye patch.  :P

If anybody on this list has this LP and is up for a CD-R exchange, it is very
high on my want list.  Also looking for Fred Karlin's OST to "Up The Down
Staircase" (Sandy Dennis).  Been punching that one into ebay's search box for
months with no success...




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Christine Karkow" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) lost las vegas
Date: 13 Mar 2000 22:25:29 -0800


I am planning a trip to Vegas and I want to find the last reminants of Old
Vegas before its gone. I'd like to find a good ol Lounge-does anyone know if
La Concha is still open?  and do they have a good bar?


Does anyone know the best Lounges where I can hear cheesy music and that
hasn't been remodeled in at least 25 years?  Please let me know.  Alas,
perhaps I'm too late.

Christine


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Duke of where?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:09:33 +0000


I remember someone on the list mentioned that a Duke of Burlington tune and
the name Duke of Bulington itself were ripped off from The Earl of
Westminster. Have I got that right? Can somebody confirm? And does anybody
know the name of the tune that the E of W (if that's the right name) made
famous?

Thanks


Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sohail Rana
Date: 14 Mar 2000 10:24:41 +0000


Somebody on this list has a record by Sohail Rana. Speak please!


Anybody?



Thanks

Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Astro Sounds  101 Strings
Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:29:40 -0000


Definitely worth buying,  I got the recent re-issue/boot of this,  which is
a little distorted,  but its great,  Groovy psychedelic music with the
strings layered on top.  It works.  It TOTALLY ROCKS.  This is one LP that
my girlfriend really likes.  I paid the full UK Pounds for a bootleg and
even with the slight distortion I'd say it was worth it so nine US Dollars,
go for it.  If its still there.

There will be a fairly recent discussion in the archives  from when I bought
it. (December?/January?).  And others going further back in time.

El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/


1) IS this worth buying
2) Is it worth buying for $8.50, (pretty good shape, stereo).

Thanks heaps

A. Fish



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman
Date: 14 Mar 2000 08:10:22 -0500



>But, Ogerman was a professional making records in different styles.  His
>"Watusi Trumpets" is a really cool now sound/surf LP -- a fave of many
>exoticats.

The only reference I had of Ogerman's before I joined the list was the
pastoral and darned near new-age-y "Gate of Dreams" LP that my wife
has.  It has string-heavy arrangements.  I would like to hear this "Watusi
Trumpets" album, because the Dreams album, it puts me to sleep.

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Duke of where?
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:24:02 +0100




Charles_Moseley wrote:

> I remember someone on the list mentioned that a Duke of Burlington tune and
> the name Duke of Bulington itself were ripped off from The Earl of
> Westminster. Have I got that right? Can somebody confirm? And does anybody
> know the name of the tune that the E of W (if that's the right name) made
> famous?

Earl of Alzheim ;-), no, just kidding! Marquis of Kensington was the name and
the song title is "Flash".

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down/ was Astro Sounds
Date: 14 Mar 2000 07:53:58 -0500


>If anybody on this list has this LP and is up for a CD-R exchange, it is ve=
ry
>high on my want list.  Also looking for Fred Karlin's OST to "Up The Down
>Staircase" (Sandy Dennis).  Been punching that one into ebay's search box f=
or
>months with no success...

Wish I'd known, BasicHip. Just passed on this in a thrift a month or two ago=
.

Which brings up a good point: Why don't more of us post a *few* of our most
wanteds here? It would be a way for us narcissistic collectors to satisfy
our appetites (great post, James B.) and help out eXoticat buddies (yes,
sharing is good, BJ.).

=46er instance, I'm still looking hard for two good used single-well,
three-head tape decks, one with a mic jack. And will need a good amp
receiver or receiver/preamp set by May 1. Please contact me offlist if
you've got stuff gathering dust in storage.

Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) lost las vegas
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:05:48 EST


In a message dated 3/14/00 1:33:07 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I am planning a trip to Vegas and I want to find the last reminants of Old
 Vegas before its gone. I'd like to find a good ol Lounge-does anyone know if
 La Concha is still open?  and do they have a good bar?

The LaConcha is still open however be aware that this is really just a motel
buiklt on the strip rather than a one of the grand old strip hotels. Check
out the Peppermill Bar which is real close to this hotel, it is a throwback
to the '70s


 Does anyone know the best Lounges where I can hear cheesy music and that
 hasn't been remodeled in at least 25 years?  Please let me know.  Alas,
 perhaps I'm too late. >>

The only hotels with lounges that have remained somewhat intact since the
'60s are Caesar's Palace (late '60s), the Sahara (late '50s) and the Stardust
(mid-'60s). But you don't go to lounges for the architecture (which is rather
non-descript) Pick up one of the free guides you'll find distributed in
hotels or in taxi cabs and they will list the performers. Some of the old
stand-bys may be in some of the newer hotels.


By the way, it is not a lounge, but well worth the trip. In the MGM go to the
Brown Derby Restaurant bar where most evenings after 8pm you will see Bobby
Barrett doing an incredible Sinatra vocal performance for just a drink
minimum.


Ashley


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) What to do with that spare quarter of a million...
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:25:20 +0000



http://www.45s.com/45-rpm-records/ultimate-collection.htm

Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website
http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:59:39 +0000


Are we really allowed to post our wants?

Where do I start?



Anybody got:

Mort Garson - Wozard of Id
Hal Blaine - Psychedelic Percussion
Rajput and the Sapoy Mutiny - Flower Power Sitar
The Hellers - Singers, Talkers, Players and Doers
J J Johnson - Willie Dynamite soundtrack
Dave Pike - Gentle Silence, Silent Noise
Berry Lipman - The Most Beautiful Girls in the World
The Mohawks - The Champ
Phillip Sarde - Max et les Ferraileurs soundtrack
Maurice Pop - Play Together
Emil Richards - Stones


Name your price!


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down
Date: 14 Mar 2000 15:18:31 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> Anybody got:
>
> Rajput and the Sapoy Mutiny - Flower Power Sitar
> The Hellers - Singers, Talkers, Players and Doers

Me do!  But me keeping...

Sorry that wasn't very fair was it ;-)

I have to say I don't find either LP particularly amazing.  Flower Power
Sitar only has one other track on it to rival Up, Up and Away (and it
doesn't really come close) and the Hellers LP is mostly quite
cringe-making.


Robbie

Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website
http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Find These Records!
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:41:33 -0600


Here is a challenge to all thrift store scavengers.. I'm looking for some
help finding two records..

I don't neccesarily need the records that bad, but would like to know if
anyone finds them and that might help me find them..

A. Several people on the list mentioned they also remember playing
Incantation and Dance in school band and everyone agreed they would like to
hear it again.. if anyone can find a recording with the song on it, I'm sure
everyone would be interested in that.  Best bet might be high school band
records as mentioned previously on the list, but who knows, perhaps it's
been given 'professional' treatment as well.


B. My roomate told me his parents had a Barbara Streisand
record in which she sang Bowie's "Life on Mars" (Hunky Dory).  Does anybody
know which album this is on, internet searches and CDDB were no help.  Might
be a live album, I'm not sure.  Normally, a request for such a cover might
raise eyebrows, but I'm sure here on this list you can easily understand why
I would want such a thing.

C.  I've always forgotten to send this request out.. if anyone finds a
record from "Little Marky" please let me know!!  Yes, it's a religious
record. No, it's not "Little Marcy".  Yes, it's the most twisted thing ever.
You would never give it to me once you listened to it, but be on the lookout
anyways.

Thanks for any help!

Btw, this may or may not deserve a full post but last week I picked up a
Walt Wanderly album.. I think Moonbeams.. that was Autographed by him!  I
haven't had much of a chance to listen to it but it was a nice find.  Walt
scribbled something in Spanish on the inside of the gatefold and signed his
name.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Astro Sounds / 101 Strings
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:59:50 -0600


BasicHip wrote:
<If anybody on this list has this LP and is up for a CD-R exchange, it
is very
high on my want list.  Also looking for Fred Karlin's OST to "Up The
Down
Staircase" (Sandy Dennis).>

Astro Sounds is available from CD Now for $13.49 on CD.  Search under
"album title" as it doesn't necessarily show up under the artist. As for
Fred Karlin,
I have bought a number of things from Michael Mascioli of All Music
Services in
SF and it seems he mentioned this to me as being available for him to
order, for
probably about $18 on CD - seems it was an import and took 3-4 weeks to
get.
His number is 415 / 864-8222 or e-mail "[e-mail]"

--

Mark D. Head
The Captain
[e-mail]
_____________________________________________
In Flight Entertainment / Global Lounge Radio coming soon!
www.jetsetair.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down
Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:14:14 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:

> What is Up Up and Away?

The brilliant Rajput and Sepoy track which features on Incredibly
Strange Music Vol 1.  It's on the Flower Power Sitar LP.

Why else would you want the LP?!


Robbie

Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website
http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FYI
Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:23:57 -0500



That song I asked about last week - the one with the sex phone talk =
overdub is by "Fault Line" and is called "Party Line Honey."

Now to find this release.........

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Viva lost wages
Date: 14 Mar 2000 11:29:05 -0500


> Does anyone know the best Lounges where I can hear cheesy=20
> cheezy music and that
> hasn't been remodeled in at least 25 years?  Please let me=20
> know. =20


I'm not too sure about the cheezy music, but if you like the velvet and
chrome late 1970s early 80s look, you can try the Peppermill.  Its on =
the
middle part of the strip, between harrah's and the strat next to a =
small
stripmall looking place with souvenier shops.  It's a diner basically, =
maybe
the best priced diner in Vegas if you eat heavy.  They have a back room =
that
is best described as a velvet lounge, with a small fountain in the =
middle.
I got very drunk in there one night, an easy thing to do.  The =
restaurant is
pretty swank too, with what looks like flowering cherry trees inside =
and
like i said, incredibly huge plates of food.  Several movies have =
scenes
from inside the place, including the recent "Casino".=20

The other exotica-ish thing I reccomend is the luau at the Imperial =
Palace.
I think it is on wednesday or thursday.  Your fee includes a hawaiian
buffet, endless mai tais and pina coladas and a wahine hula and culture
dance romp through the south pacific show.  Again, for the price, =
pretty
unbeatable as Vegas goes. =20

Hope you like both!  =20

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=
=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Find These Records!
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:11:49 -0800


>Btw, this may or may not deserve a full post but last week I picked up a
>Walt Wanderly album.. I think Moonbeams.. that was Autographed by him!  I
>haven't had much of a chance to listen to it but it was a nice find.  Walt
>scribbled something in Spanish on the inside of the gatefold and signed his
>name.

Heh.  I'd be surprised, myself, if WW "scribbled something in Spanish"
because his native language was Portugese.  At any rate, the title of the
album is "Moondreams" and was the second and last LP he recorded for
A&M...

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Another Astro Sounds 101 question
Date: 14 Mar 2000 09:20:33 PST


Bought, love it to pieces, and thanks for all the opinions.
Problem- the disk labels are both white- nothing on them to even tell me
which side I'm listening to, (accept a small stickler that says Made in U.K.
I'm not sure it's the right record, (I assume the song with the "whip" sound
and the woman moaning is 'Whiplash'?).

  I HAS to be the right record- 15 tracks as indicated on the cover, second
song from the end of one side is, I assume, Whiplash.

I guess this is a re-issue?


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gone with the Wave
Date: 14 Mar 2000 17:20:26 +0000


Does anybody have this Lalo Schifrin soundtrack? Recommendations?
Description?


Thanks

Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Claus Ogermann
Date: 14 Mar 2000 13:48:43 -0500


Ogermann recorded these for RCA in the mid-60's -

"Fiddler On The Roof" -  a so-so collection of songs from the musical,
nothing really outstanding
"Soul Seranade" -  mid 60's Motown/Stax/etc hits; not as good as it should
or could be
"Watusi Trumpets"  - outstanding Now Sound LP
"Saxes Mexicanoa" - another outstanding Now Sound LP, a must have for the
track 'Nightmare' alone
"Latin Rock" - another great one; Now Sound Latin/Brazillian.

 Dick Hyman on the amazing Lowery organ on all LP's.

I have an Ogermann 45 on Capitol, a green label which makes it post-1968,
so it's possible he has an album on Capitol as well. I also have the non-LP
B-side "Summer Ska" (b to Fiddler On The Roof"), a sort of Now Sound ska
track similar to the Warner "Dance The Ska" LP from about '63.

For some reason, the Ogermann LP's are tough to find in stereo, but well
worth it when you do. I assume they sold very few copies when initially
released.

br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: records/bachelorhood vs. married life/kids
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:05:12 -0500


James wrote:

> okay, okay. i'll close. i just wanted to suggest a) that you need not, at
> least in this case, exclude one lifestyle at the expense of another, and b)
> that you can conceive of collecting in such a way that stresses what is
> creative and unique in it, not just what is dweeby and stunted in it.
> virtually all people on this earth will procreate, but only a very few will
> ever bother unearthing the forgotten sights and sound this world has hidden
> in itself. kudos to those who bother...
I hope this post wasn't in reference to my noting how children or
family can get in the way of serious record collecting!  I never
meant to say there was the need to have one replace the other,
simply that the total time 'pie' is finite and you have to adjust how
you slice it up.  Let's just say we've become a lot more efficient
and creative with how we spend our time, as cutting out the
records was never even a consideration for us.  I'm sure many other
parents can relate!


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: records/bachelorhood vs. married life/kids
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:25:40 EST



In a message dated 3/14/0 2:06:04 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I hope this post wasn't in reference to my noting how children or
>family can get in the way of serious record collecting!  I never
>meant to say there was the need to have one replace the other,
>simply that the total time 'pie' is finite and you have to adjust how
>you slice it up.  Let's just say we've become a lot more efficient
>and creative with how we spend our time, as cutting out the
>records was never even a consideration for us.  I'm sure many other
>parents can relate!

You are a hubby and wife vinyl junkie team with a kid. In my case its just
me, making Mrs. Me (thanks James Coburn) a vinyl widow by her account. BTW/my
7 year old Leah is singing "W.E.E.K.E.N.D." by Arling and Cameron acapella
style around the crib


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Michel Legrand
Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:18:31 -0500


Someone was talking about Michel Legrand and I remembered a couple of
things, leafing through the records today (looking for graphics for my film
poster, not for what to get rid of. Not yet anyway).
One, Michel Legrand Chantes - sings - is an amazing record.
AND here's a record collector tidbit about his pretty great semi bossa-nova
record, "In Rio".  Some of the sax parts are played by none other than John
Coltrane.
(Which I suppose makes it a jazz record, if it wasn't one already.)
He's not credited but those in-the-know, know.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 14 Mar 2000 16:18:25 -0500


At 06:00 PM 3/13/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote:
>
>So you're saying that with a live show, it's more likely the context is
>provided for you while with recorded music, it more likely you provide the
>context? I'd go along with that.

Not just context.  That's obvious.  I mean content too.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) records/bachelorhood life/kids
Date: 14 Mar 2000 14:12:02 -0800 (PST)



Just wondering how many of you take your kids with you when you go thrifting??

I turn my little 4 year old loose in the toy sections of the Salvation
Army/Goodwills and sometime I'm more impressed with her finds than mine.

Between the 60 or so stuffed animals and hundreds of pearls and toys  she  caught
at Mardis Gras parades and all the toys she scores thrifting and all those records
and cds the house seems a lot smaller.

Also we really appreciate all of the childrens records I find.   Its amazing to
watch a Grado stylus on a Stax Tonearm gently lifted by little four year old
fingers to play Old Mc Donald Had a Farm or Dumbo.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" March 14, 2000
Date: 14 Mar 2000 17:14:27 -0500


"Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Now available via RealAudio (Yowza!)
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/

Brainticket - From Another Planet/Radagacuca "Psychonaut"

Neu! - Isi "Neu! 75"
Mr Scruff - Ambiosound "Get a Move On!" ep
Ursula 1000 - Very Leggy "The Now Sound of Ursula 1000"

Gene Page - Good to the Last Drop "Blacula" ost
Mandingo - Chant "Sacrifice"
23 Skidoo - The Gospel Comes to New Guinea "The Gospel..." 12"

The Slits - Instant Hit "Cut"
Bush Tetras - Too Many Creeps "Too Many Creeps" ep
Serge Gainsbourg - Roller Girl "Anna" ost
Art Zoyd - Sangria 7"

The Five Bells - Time "Dimensions"
Les Maledictus Sound - Inside My Brain "Les Maledictus Sound"
Art Zoyd - Something in Love 7"

Thanks for reading,

Allan



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Drinkin songs
Date: 14 Mar 2000 15:43:26 -0800 (PST)


Gimme that Wine
And maybe... Nighttrain?  :)


Peter
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TV - Beach Boys
Date: 14 Mar 2000 19:01:26 -0500


This Saturday night, AMC has a couple of Beach Boys items.

A documentary: "Endless Harmony: The Beach Boys Story"
This may be Part 1 of a 2-parter. I have no idea of the quality or "spin"
of the program. Airs at 10:00pm and 4:00am (eastern).

Another airing of the "Lost Concert"
This is a live show from March 1964, which was sent out to theaters via
closed circuit. Noice.
Airs at 11:00pm and 5:00am.

On a related note, Luxuria Music has an article on Van Dyke Park's contest
for the best Mike Love Joke:
http://www.luxuriamusic.com/servlet/Feat_Page?featureID=1730

The contest itself appears here:
http://members.aol.com/Songcycler2/MLJC.html






m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Find These Records!
Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:26:36 EST


Zach writes:

<< C.  I've always forgotten to send this request out.. if anyone finds a
 record from "Little Marky" please let me know!!  Yes, it's a religious
 record. No, it's not "Little Marcy".  Yes, it's the most twisted thing ever.
 You would never give it to me once you listened to it, but be on the lookout
 anyways. >>

It IS the most twisted thing ever.  Thought you've heard it all?

Leave it to Will at show and tell music to turn me onto to this truly
sickening work.

Diary Of An Unborn Child is an anti-abortion message, told by an adult (Mark
Fox???) portraying this fat little kid, Markie.  He starts out in the womb,
under his mother's heart.  He can't wait to touch her hair, see her face.
His little fingers are developing, soon everything will be full of sunshine
and smiles.  The story takes a dark turn on december 28 when "my mother
killed me".  Then he goes into a song, "Why Did you Kill Me, Mommy?"

Shocking to say the least.  I would attach a listener's beware to those
easily offended.

Check out the cover and Will's site at:

http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/christian/lilmarkie.html






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) 1950s-60s electronica / Raymond Scott
Date: 14 Mar 2000 21:27:39 EST



        RaymondScott.com is accepting pre-orders for MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC.
(Basta Records 3090782), the long-awaited release of RAYMOND SCOTT's
1950s/60s pioneering electronica.  MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. is a 2-CD,
69-track edition featuring over two hours of Scott's previously unreleased
electronic wizardry, packaged in a 144-page, full-color, hard-bound book.

        MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. features music machines designed & built by
Raymond Scott, such as the Electronium, Clavivox, Circle Machine (early
'sequencer'), Bandito the Bongo Artist (early 'drum machine'), and more. The
album includes "non-kiddie" collaborations with pre-Muppet-era JIM HENSON.
The book features interviews with those who knew and worked with Scott,
including Moog synthesizer inventor ROBERT MOOG, along with countless
previously unseen photos, lab notes, US patents, and scrapbook items.

        Although the US release date is May 10, it is available
        exclusively from RaymondScott.com on APRIL 3rd.

   For ordering instructions, email:
   [e-mail]

        Listen to MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC.
        preview MP3 clips here:
        http://RaymondScott.com/mripr.html


        ''Tireless dedication and uncompromising perfectionism is evident in
every detail of this wonderful collection. From the astonishing sounds to the
beautiful packaging, MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. is an essential release of
pioneer electronica, adding yet another page to the ever-growing legacy of
American maverick Raymond Scott.''
-JOHN ZORN


        ''The MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. package is perfect -- and the music is
too perfect!''
-Konishi Yasaharu, PIZZICATO 5


        ''The work of Raymond Scott has been long out of print, but the
pieces of music on MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC., recorded in the fifties and
sixties, sound like nothing so much as the future.''
-Peter Buck, R.E.M.


        ''MANHATTAN RESEARCH INC. is a brilliant collection of Raymond
Scott's difficult-to-find electronic work.  I love the packaging, and the
interviews are incredibly interesting and informative.''
-Adrian Utley, PORTISHEAD


        ''Raymond Scott was one of the greatest music technology innovators
the 20th century.  Many musicians on the charts today are using his ideas
fairly directly.  His vision was so wide, that today it is impossible to turn
on a piece of equipment in your studio without automatically issuing a
benediction to the spirit of Raymond Scott.''
-Matt Black, COLDCUT














.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down
Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:03:46 EST


<<  and the Hellers LP is mostly quite cringe-making. >>

Wow!  robbie, I'm surprised.

I rate The Hellers as one of my all time favorites.  Maybe it has to do with
my being a jingle and ad freak.  Highly creative, wildly
experimental, entertaining and FUN!  Soft pop vocal outfit on acid
kinda thing.

I've brought it up a couple of times and nobody ever chimes in which leads me
to think nobody has it.  Pretty tough find.

The Hellers is Hugh Heller, of the ad agency, Heller-Ferguson.  There are a
handful of HF records (promos) out there, never intended for public sale.
Creative Freakout and Johnny Spots Private Ear are a couple that come to
mind.  Johnny Spots is played by Ben Chandler, a Private Eye type whose
narration is woven between spots for Uncle Johns Pancake House, Burgie,
Cornuts and a whole lot more.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Riffing on Brian
Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:58:15 -0000


Hungover this morning I was mentally riffing off what Brian said about Miles
Davis,  Jazz and Fucking.  Now Rock and Roll has the same meaning, as I
recall,  and i can remember a film with Little Richard declaring 'I am the
King of Rock and Roll'.  Surely he wasn't in the dark about its origins. Its
a mental image I can't shake.

Little Richard,  self declared King of the Fuckers.


El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Ennio Morricone soundtracks
Date: 15 Mar 2000 12:17:36 -0000


The 2 Morricone Soundtracks I saw at the weekend would be these:


> New from http://www.roughtrade.com/
>
> morricone, ennio il gatto a nove code
> lp 10/3/2000 10.99
> soundtrack original soundtrack for this 1971 cult movie.180gm
> vinyl,gatefold
> sleeve and free poster
>
> morricone, ennio una lucertola con la pelle di donna
> lp 10/3/2000 10.99
> soundtrack original soundtrack for this 1971 cult movie.180gram vinyl in a
> gatefold sleeve
>
Anybody know what they're like,  should I rush out to get them?

> El Maestro Con Queso
>
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]
> http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
> http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/
>
> Hi Reader Geoff,
>
> I read your post from the exotica list and I'm very interesting in every
> soundtrack composed by Ennio Morricone, as much as a lot has
> gone lost. Please tell me about the soundtrack's you found, I appreciate
> it.
>
> Sincerely
>     Daniel
>
>
>


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sohail Rana
Date: 15 Mar 2000 04:18:44 PST


Yes I have, and it is terrific, its called Khyber Mail and was released
1970. I have it on CDr if you want a copy of it.

Magnus

Somebody on this list has a record by Sohail Rana. Speak please!


Anybody?



Thanks

Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) live music propaganda
Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:02:45 -0500


Nat clarified....
>>So you're saying that with a live show, it's more likely the context is
>>provided for you while with recorded music, it more likely you provide the
>>context? I'd go along with that.
>
>Not just context.  That's obvious.  I mean content too.

Ah, listening as a creative act. Rather PoMo, Nat. Derrida and la de da. Mim=
i




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down
Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:47:26 EST


In a message dated 03/14/2000 11:05:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I rate The Hellers as one of my all time favorites.  Maybe it has to do
with
 my being a jingle and ad freak.  Highly creative, wildly
 experimental, entertaining and FUN!  Soft pop vocal outfit on acid
 kinda thing.

 I've brought it up a couple of times and nobody ever chimes in which leads
me
 to think nobody has it.  Pretty tough find.   >>

The Hellers have a unique quality, vocally they're like a more commercial
Free Design-ish sort of feel, but the music is much more high powered. Got ta
love 'um.

-Roy G. Biv



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Astroslut slides into Lizard Lounge-Sat!
Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:03:47 -0800 (PST)


ASTROSLUT
SATURDAY MARCH 18 @ the LIZARD LOUNGE
1667 Mass. Av.-between Harvard and Porter, on right
when
traveling to Porter
Opening the show right at 10pm will be the fabulous
BOY
JOYS followed by two sets of the SLUT.  The Boys Joys
play
the best in old BeeGees songs, true to form and
harmony.  A
full Slut show complete with Astrowear as well as
casual Planet
wear and our Astro dancers are set for a sexy Saturday
night at
the Lizard.  Come early, stay the evening and get
lucky!!

You can purchase Astroslut's 13-song release, "Love at
Zero
G" here:
http://www.astroslut.net
Plug into the Now!
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/music/

=====
"It's just my nature to do weird stuff." - Les Baxter
Buy the debut release from Astroslut:  LOVE AT ZERO G at:
http://cdalley.com

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) SwankRadio site announcement
Date: 15 Mar 2000 08:27:17 -0800


Here's a new site (www.swankradio.com) that streams mp3 ripped from old
vinyl:

SwankRadio invites you to another world, a world far away from the mundane
environment of today. This world is about soothing sounds from distant and
unreachable places that tell stories of adventure, mystery, and love. How
does one get to this luscious world? SwankRadio will be your guide through
this realm of sensory stimulation. Throw away your maps and guide books for
in them you will not find our destinations. No need to pack for our
destinations are as close as your ears can hear. You will need nothing but a
willingness to let go and maybe a cocktail of your choosing.*

SwankRadio is a website and radio station dedicated to the beauty of the
fabricated musical landscapes and lifestyles of the 50's and 60's. The radio
station features both hi and lo resolution streams of tunes from our current
Featured Albums. Although we would like to defy the narrow categorization of
musical genres, most of the music could be described Exotica, Lounge, or
Easy Listening. The Feature Albums come from the SwankRadio collection of
over 500 LPs of Exotica, Latin, Cocktail, Percussion, Spy Theme, Belly
Dancing, Outer Space, Easy Listening, Lounge, Hi-Fi, Bachelor Pad and other
fascinating styles of music. All SwankRadio music is recorded straight from
the original vinyl (no CDs) to ensure the best quality and selection of
music. In addition to the music, we feature extensive links about the
artists and albums that we feature. Separate from the music, we have a
gallery of our favorite album covers scanned in large jpeg format for your
viewing pleasure. Of course, all of this excitement may make you thirsty and
our Cocktail of the Month should handle that.

Sit back, grab a drink, and let go. The SwankRadio adventure is about to
begin.

* We forgot to mention the Internet capable computer with at least a 56k
connection. You'll also need audio capabilities with a Shoutcast compliant
mp3 player like WinAmp.

Erik




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) film in Los Angeles
Date: 14 Mar 2000 20:04:54 -0800


This is a very entertaining account of Chicken John's Roadshow
catch it if you can
________________________________________________________
For those of you who live in the Los Angeles Area, my last film, "Circus
Redickuless" will be playing at the Sunset 5 theaters this weekend.[8000
Sunset Blvd W.  Hollywood, [phone]]

Screening times are as follows:
    March 10th - Friday Night at Midnight
    March 11th - Saturday Morning at 10:00 am and Saturday Night at Midnight
    March 12th - Sunday Morning at 10:00 am.

It will also screen the following weekend at the Laemmle's Santa Monica on
Saturday and Sunday at 11:00 am. (Check that week's listing to be sure.)
Check out www.geocities.com/filmotheklown3 for more info on the film and the
opening portion of the film.

P.S. I'll be attending the Friday Midnight show.
Phillip Glau
Ridiculous Productions
1400 Golden Gate Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90026

323-668-1776
__________________________________
Aloha
Otto

[e-mail]
www.tikinews.com
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sat March 18
Date: 14 Mar 2000 22:37:01 -0800


Saturday, March 18, 2000,
10:30 pm

APE - the only Exotica band on the West Coast! Featuring former members of
SF surf combo The Swamis, Frank Novicki formerly of Shockwave, Brian Lease
of Frenchy, and Tiki carver Crazy Al on vocals

Klaus Flouride's JUMBO SHRIMP - 3 guitars, no waiting! If the Ventures were
hip and still in their prime this is what they would wish they sound like.

with the MUSKRATS

Paradise Lounge, 11th & Folsom,
San Francisco

see you there,
Otto

www.tikinews.com
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) March 24 in Los Angeles
Date: 14 Mar 2000 23:11:31 -0800


Friday March 24
The Pitcher House
142 Pacific Coast Highway
Hermosa Beach CA
Show time: 8:30
$3 Clams CHEAP!
show poster: http://www.pollodelmar.com/gallery/gall33.html

The Pitcher House in Hermosa Beach will be opening its doors to a
tsunami on March 24th when it presents 4 of the most acclaimed bands in
the contemporary surf instro scene. JON & the NIGHTRIDERS, SLACKTONE,
the SPACE COSSACKS and Pollo Del Mar all in one night!

John Blair of the Nightriders is often cited as being the man who
single-handedly brought this genre back into style in the early 80's.
His credits include writing a book on the subject and providing the
entire liner notes for Rhino's 4 CD set, Cowabunga - the Surf Box. Their
album Moving Target was just voted Album of the Year ('99) in Pipeline
Magazine. They will also be appearing at the monumental Rendevous
Ballroom Reunion show March 26th at the Galaxy.

Slacktone has recently been profiled in Guitar Player Magazine and their
drummer, ex-Agent Orange member Dusty Watson also happens to be Dick
Dale's drummer! This powerhouse of a trio has to be seen to be believed.

The Space Cossacks hail from Washington D.C. and are making a special
trip out here at the behest of Mr. John Blair for the Rendevous Ballroom
Reunion show. Their album Interstellar Stomp was voted Best Album of the
Year in Surf Music USA.

Pollo Del Mar is from that peculiar and wonderful breed of San Francisco
instro bands with a style all their own. Their new CD The Devil and the
Deep Blue Sea has just been released by MuSick Recordings, a label known
for its cutting edge instro releases.

--Jamie Murray
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new Web site address for Dada's main home page
Date: 15 Mar 2000 13:41:46 +0100


The address of my main home page has changed to:

http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada1/

That page is used only as a container for links to my web sites -- their
addresses did not change:

"Dada's Exotiquarium": http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/
"Virtual Fantastica" : http://gallery.uunet.be/Quiet/fantastica/fantastica.htm


        Johan

        [e-mail]


        | )    / \    | )    / \







# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Claus Ogerman
Date: 15 Mar 2000 14:29:04 +0100


    i'm just telling what someone else told me, a guy who works at
german radio WDR 4, he'scalled Suitbert Kempkes, his program is called
"Zauber der Melodien", wednseday, 21h. he told me he has  "more than 100
productions by Claus Ogermann", so they might be under other names, i don't
know.

    the odd thing is, he had never heard about "Watusi Trumpets
(Trumpets That Go Go!)", "Latin Rock", or "Soul Searchin'", 3 great US lp's
by Ogerman.

        Johan

        -----


Moritz wrote:

>Really? I've never seen any single one of them, neither on flee markets, nor
>in second hand stores. Are you saying he published these album under his own
>name?




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) (re) Lost Vegas
Date: 15 Mar 2000 14:47:21 -0500



Speaking of lost Vegas;

I heard the new Keely Smith album on the radio and she sounds great.
Comments anyone? What's the name and arranger?


Domenic




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Alan Smithee
Date: 15 Mar 2000 15:02:52 -0500


Extra! Extra! Alan Smithee Publishes from the Grave! Disses Dogma 95!

>http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2000/03/14dogme95.html




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) records/bachelorhood life/kids
Date: 15 Mar 2000 16:20:06 -0500



Been scrolling thru the digests and wanted to comment on this thread.

We've been married 21 years and the wife has noticed that I pick up
obsessions and gradually drop them after a few years. So it's about time
for me to get hooked onto something else. Out of consideration for our
joint finances I have "leveled" off over the past 1/2 year. But back to the
vinyl trough this weekend when I go thrifting with Think. ;')

The thing the wife hates the most is the smell of the records so I only try
to keep choice things I want to play regularly at home and on the show
upstairs in the living room with the turntable.

As for the kids. I stopped bringing them to the nearest used record place
because the free range rude shopkeeper didn't want them playing with the
toys she also sold. I say sold cause she closed up shop.

These days I buy one or two records at a pop, for a dollar each or less if
I can help it.
Can't seem to get the 4 year old into exotica. She knows the lyrics to
"baby do me one more time" or whatever it's called by Brittney Spears!
She's into the current scene.

My 14 year old listen to the top 40 rock stuff and was really into a disco
type song called "blue" that was IMHO lounge teckno.

For me it's been possible to have an record habit and a family. You just to
balance it out.


Domenic







# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) records/bachelorhood life/kids
Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:08:23 -0500


Well, it's just Madame and me, but for the times, my parents had a lot of
records, but didn't play them too terribly often.  They did have
um...VARIED tastes, which is mostly my Mother's doing.  Here is a
smattering of disques du Mom et Dad:

The Billie Holiday Story
Tito Rodriguez
My World - Jo Basile (one of the world's worst records.  Just trust me.)
The Living Voices of Christmas (sloooow version of the 12 Days of Christmas)
Le Sacre du Savage - L' Baxter
Le Sacre du Printemps - La Stravinsky
What a Wonderful World - Jerry Vale
Cesar Franck Symphony
Music of the Near East
Artistry in Rhythm - Stan Kenton
Victoria de Los Angeles (one of my Mother's favorite singers)
Orquestra Almendra (Dad dug this one)
Cinderella (a two-sided 78 that ends with her going to the Prince's fancy
Dress Ball!  I really wanted to see this conversation at the record
company: "Bob, we love duh fairy tale, but we gotta make some cuts.  Foist,
no glass slipper.   It tested bad in Chicago.  Second, we can't have her go
back to rags again.  Goils' hearts'll be broken...")

Any rock and roll we had were on 45s.  No albums.  The earliest 45 we had
was "Why Do Fools Fall in Love" by Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers.  If any
records were played my brother and I were playing them.  When we had
company, I remember that the turntable was commandeered by Dad to listen to
Billie Holiday with a family friend.  When we first bought that record, we
listened to all of it and I was NOT amused, especially when he made us go
back over certain cuts.

Turns out I was wrong about that.  Yeah, like you all were hip at nine
years old.

The whole subject of music in the living became rather depressing when some
punk kids stole the receiver and one of the speakers.  We never replaced
them and the only turntables in the house were in my brother's room.

So, for them the balance was almost no music at all, but a lot of
records.  On the occasional Sunday, Dad would make pancakes and turn the
greasy, dusty Magnavox to the "classical" station.

The moral of the story:  if you want your kids to dig that type of music,
feed them and keep the radio out of reach!

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Louis Prima question (vague as can be!!)
Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:32:28 -0500


I have forgotten all but some of the lyrics.

It is a song cut with no vocals of his, but with a woman vocalist other
than Keely Smith.  It's a live cut and most of what is sung very fast,
which really gets the crowd going.

The antiphonal section has her singing with the band answering:

Her: I
Them: I
Her: I want
Them: I want
Her: I want you
Them: I want you
Her: I want you to
Them: I want you to

Then the rapid fire vocals.  What is the song and who is the singer?




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wanteds & Up the Down
Date: 15 Mar 2000 17:39:06 -0500


At 02:59 PM 3/14/00 +0000, [e-mail]
wrote:
>
>Are we really allowed to post our wants?

I guess you are.  And since some of your wants are in the same vein as some
of mine, maybe you can tell me what you know about them and then they'll
also become my wants.

For instance:

>Rajput and the Sapoy Mutiny - Flower Power Sitar
>The Hellers - Singers, Talkers, Players and Doers
>Berry Lipman - The Most Beautiful Girls in the World
>The Mohawks - The Champ
>Phillip Sarde - Max et les Ferraileurs soundtrack
>Maurice Pop - Play Together

Oh and btw, I have the Wozard record, mainly as a memento (momento?) of
days of hash.  I don't have a price but I would consider a trade.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Louis Prima question (vague as can be!!)
Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:01:29 EST



In a message dated 3/15/0 5:33:46 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Her: I
>Them: I
>Her: I want
>Them: I want
>Her: I want you
>Them: I want you
>Her: I want you to
>Them: I want you to
>
>Then the rapid fire vocals.  What is the song and who is the singer?

I think its called "I Want You To Be My Boy" by The Exciters. The lead singer
was Brenda Reid. They are best know for "Tell Him" ("I know something about
love, you've gotta want it bad. If that guy gets into your blood, go out and
get him." then the chorus "tell him that you never want to leave him, tell
him that you're always gonna please him. Tell him, tell him, tell him, tell
him right now.")...Hope that helps...JB/played obscure oldies for years


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Wanteds
Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:02:34 EST



In a message dated 3/15/0 5:34:23 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The Mohawks - The Champ

Add that one to my wants as well..JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) records/bachelorhood life/kids
Date: 15 Mar 2000 15:21:18 -0800


>. . .So, for them the balance was almost no music at all, but a lot of
>records.  On the occasional Sunday, Dad would make pancakes and turn the
>greasy, dusty Magnavox to the "classical" station.
>
>The moral of the story:  if you want your kids to dig that type of music,
>feed them and keep the radio out of reach!
>
>Brian Phillips

Just to share a story that yours puts me in mind of:  It drives me crazy
when I have gone to my uncle's home to visit.  No judgment being passed
here because everyone is different, BUT:  there was never, ever a drop of
music played in that home, ever.  So my three cousins grew up listening
to no music in the home.  Even to this day, they have never owned a
stereo of any kind (either the piece of furniture [all-in-one] kind, an
a/v receiver-home stereo system or even a portable "record player").
They have one radio, in the kitchen, that's the kind you see in most
people's garages (portable, big handle on the top, one speaker mono).
When it's on, it's always tuned to an AM 24 hr. all-news station.  I
bring this up because it contrasts SO much to the atmosphere I grew up
in:  either the FM radio was always on, always tuned to what were
formerly 'easy listening' stations - OR - records were playing.  Or there
was a concert playing on tv (remembering the Leonard Bernstein 'Young
Peoples Concerts' on CBS on Sunday afternoons).  And we had musical
instruments in our home, too, where none existed in any of our other
relative's homes.  It was just SUCH a contrast!!

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist for "The BackWard" March 15, 2000
Date: 15 Mar 2000 23:22:22 GMT




"The BackWard" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Also available via RealAudio:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/

A Man Alone - John Barry, from "The Ipcress File" OST

A Spit in the Ocean - Fred Frith, from "The Best of Ralph"

Shadows of the Night - Corbert & Grean, from "Dark Shadows" OST

Radar Eyes - The Godz, from "Godz II"

Valley of Death - The Whatever, from "Acid and Flowers"

The Pass - Johnny Bond, from "That Wild Wicked but Wonderful West"

Five Brothers - Marty Robbins, from "More Gunfighter Ballads"

Rats - Syd Barrett, from "Barrett"

I'll Sell My Soul - The Allies, from "Acid and Flowers"

Ocean - The Velvet Underground, from "Loaded" (outtake)

The Amine B Ring (exc) - Lou Reed, from "Metal Machine Music"

Making The Nature Scene - Sonic Youth, from "Confusion is Sex"

Draft Morning - The Byrds, from "Notorious Byrd Bros."

Fotomodelle & Notte Di Mezza Estate - Piero Umiliani, from "Sweden Heaven
and Hell" OST

Rio Magic - Neil Richardson, from "Music for TV Dinners the 60's"

Zoom! - Francis Lai, from "Live For Life" OST

Inner City Blues - Marvin Gaye, from "What's Goin' On"

Krautrock - Faust, from "Faust IV"

-jbrouwer
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Heino-esque
Date: 15 Mar 2000 19:17:22 -0500


I think I may have just heard the most fascinatingly horrible record ever,
in my obviously limited experience.  I say that because I'm sure there are
tons of records like this, especially in this genre.
The artist's name is Tol Hansse and if you need more info, the label is CNR
and this particular record is called "Moet niet zeuren".
If I had to guess what language it is, I'd go for Dutch.  But I wouldn't
guarantee it.
It reminds me of Heino, with a bit of a country and western influence.
Anyway, it's truly awful. If country and western Heino doesn't paint enough
of a picture, I don't think I can do any better.
But if it was just awful of course, I wouldn't be writing here.
It's awful but a bit of a "car-crash" too, in that you can't take your eyes
off it.
For moments here and there, you think "This is not THAT bad".  Then moments
later, you think "Wait, I spoke too soon".
I imagine it would be great to turn on at a party when you want people to
leave.
But I'm scared that if I keep it, I might start to like it.
I've grown to like so much that I never thought I'd like.  It's good to
hear something that I don't like.
I probably should never play it again.  Preserve the moment.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "JOACHIM TEVEBRING" <[e-mail]>
Subject: VB: (exotica) Louis Prima question (vague as can be!!)
Date: 16 Mar 2000 01:18:29 +0100




>It is a song cut with no vocals of his, but with a woman vocalist other =

>than Keely Smith.  It's a live cut and most of what is sung very fast,=20
>which really gets the crowd going.
What is the song and who is the singer?


The song is I Want You To Be My Baby, sung by Keely=B4s succesor: Gia =
Maionen. It=B4s on the Prima album "Lake Tahoe Prima Style"

/Joachim



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) What to do with that spare quarter of a
Date: 15 Mar 2000 18:46:15 -0800


At 02:25 PM 14-03-00 +0000, Robbie wrote:
>http://www.45s.com/45-rpm-records/ultimate-collection.htm

hmm.  I bet they could get into trouble for selling the core of the
collection.  Most of the singles are probably promotional, which means
the record company alone has ownership and selling is illegal.  Theoretically.

Still, they certainly know how to store a collection.  I bet that's either
a remodelled basement or garage.

http://www.45s.com/images-music/collection-1.jpg
http://www.45s.com/images-music/collection-2.jpg

Byron


Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) shameless self promotion
Date: 15 Mar 2000 22:20:51 -0500


http://www.iprimus.ca/~klymkiw/vinyl.html



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tito Rivera?
Date: 15 Mar 2000 23:12:32 -0500


Now here's a record with a surprise up its sleeve.

Tito Rivera & His Cuban Orchestra featuring Yo Yo Gonzales and Jose Morales
"Cha Cha Cha"
Golden Tone Stereo/Precision Radiation Instruments - 14042

Well, for one, it's practically an EP, with just 4 cuts per side. It
appears to be a typical budget label cha cha-sploitation album, with it's
obvious title and a cover photo featuring a very white dancing couple.

Surprise! Side one is terrific, zero-anglo-content Cuban music (or maybe
Puerto Rican, I'm not expert enough to say for sure). A small band, sparse
and soulful... percussion, upright bass, small horn section, guitar (maybe
replaced by tres on some cuts) and male vocals in Spanish. The tunes are
down-tempo, minor-key and sinuously serpentine. Latin noir. The sort of
stuff you would expect to find in Tom Waits' record collection. Very steamy
and very cool at the same time.

Side two, sadly, is watered-down. Two exploitation tracks: "In Old New York
Cha Cha" and "La Cucaracha Cha Cha" sound like the work of a different band
(definitely larger, definitely a different recording session). These sound
more anglo... a bit like Perez Prado arrangements, but not as frisky. The
two remaining tracks with the Side 1 band are also a bit of a letdown. "La
Virgen De La Macarena" (no, no obvious resemblance to the recent fad song)
sounds like something for the tourists -- a very different feel than the
Side 1 songs. A cover of "Adios" sounds a bit stiff, like it was
under-rehearsed and thrown together at the last minute to fill out a session.

But that Side 1... whew! It's so good it makes my stomache hurt.

So the question... has anyone heard of Tito Rivera, Yo Yo Gonzales or Jose
Morales in another context? Or are these more budget label imaginary artist
names?

Also, I think there was a recent thread on Golden Tone and Precision
Radiation Instruments. Would anyone like to refresh that? The technical
quality is actually darned good and genuine stereo. The back cover has a
listing of other Golden Tone releases, and it looks like pretty bland
going, to be honest.

Thanks,

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Heino-esque
Date: 16 Mar 2000 13:21:01 +0100



>I think I may have just heard the most fascinatingly horrible record ever,
>in my obviously limited experience.  I say that because I'm sure there are
>tons of records like this, especially in this genre.
>The artist's name is Tol Hansse and if you need more info, the label is CNR
>and this particular record is called "Moet niet zeuren".
>If I had to guess what language it is, I'd go for Dutch.  But I wouldn't
>guarantee it.
>It reminds me of Heino, with a bit of a country and western influence.
>Anyway, it's truly awful. If country and western Heino doesn't paint enough
>of a picture, I don't think I can do any better.
>But if it was just awful of course, I wouldn't be writing here.
>It's awful but a bit of a "car-crash" too, in that you can't take your eyes
>off it.
>For moments here and there, you think "This is not THAT bad".  Then moments
>later, you think "Wait, I spoke too soon".
>I imagine it would be great to turn on at a party when you want people to
>leave.
>But I'm scared that if I keep it, I might start to like it.
>I've grown to like so much that I never thought I'd like.  It's good to
>hear something that I don't like.
>I probably should never play it again.  Preserve the moment.




Yes, Tol Hansse's Dutch and in translation the songtitle means "Don't
whine", "Stop bugging me", something to that extent. His claim to fame
is his hit "Big City", which is bad enough, but probably not bad enough
by your standards. If you think Tol is truly awful, then we have much
more in store for you, look for Frans Bauer, Gerard Joling, Andre Hazes,
Koos Alberts, to name just a few. And Lee Towers, a former crane driver
discovered by talkshow host Willem Duys, who's perceived as the Dutch
Sinatra, but swings, well, as a crane driver, but fills a small stadium
with ease nevertheless. Last but not least, Vader Abraham, who can be
considered truely awful after he gained respectability, whatever that
means in this context, but started off as a producer and performer of
(soft) erotica schlagers, now that is dehors categories. Luckily that
material seems to be extremely obscure nowadays, so you won't run too
great a risk of spoiling your sex life for good.

Cheers, Ton



 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Richard Collier,Tommy Collins,Andrew Ghareeb,Mary Elliott Cummings,
Date: 16 Mar 2000 11:48:07 -0500


                          *Richard Collier
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Richard Collier, a character actor who
appeared in more than 1,000 television shows and such movies as
``Hello, Dolly!'' and ``Blazing Saddles,'' died Saturday. He was
80.
    Collier, whose credits include the children's television show
``Mr. Giggles,'' died at the Motion Picture & Television Hospital,
where he had been living since April.
    A Boston native, Collier performed in theaters and clubs in
Massachusetts before an Army stint during World War II. After the
war, Collier began acting.
    He appeared in early TV shows such as ``Playhouse 90,'' ``Lux
Video Theater'' and ``Philco Theater,'' and had had guest spots on
``Bonanza,'' ``The Andy Griffith Show,'' ``Batman,'' ``The Beverly
Hillbillies'' and ``The Big Valley.''
    Collier played Dr. Sam Johnson in ``Blazing Saddles,'' and
Walter Matthau's barber in ``Hello, Dolly!''
--------
                           *Tommy Collins
    ASHLAND CITY, Tenn. (AP) -- Tommy Collins, who wrote country
music hits for Merle Haggard, George Strait and other singers, died
Tuesday of complications from emphysema. He was 69.
    His hits included ``If You Ain't Lovin' (You Ain't Livin')'' by
both Strait and Ferlin Huskey, and Haggard's ``Carolyn.''
    Haggard wrote his 1981 hit ``Leonard'' in tribute to Collins.
    Born Leonard Sipes in Oklahoma City, he was renamed Tommy
Collins by Huskey after the Tom Collins cocktail.
    Collins helped craft the Bakersfield Sound of country music in
California during the 1950s before moving to Nashville.
    He was inducted into the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame in
September.

                          *Andrew Ghareeb
    CHICOPEE, Mass. (AP) -- Andrew E. Ghareeb, who translated the
works of the Lebanese poet Kahlil Gibran into English, died Sunday.
He was 101.
    Ghareeb came to Springfield in 1913 from his native Lebanon and
discovered Gibran's writing in a Lebanese magazine in 1918. His
first translation of the poem ``My Soul Counseled Me'' was
published in the Springfield Republican newspaper in 1926.
    Ghareeb sent the translation to Gibran, who was living in New
York City. It was the start of a friendship that lasted until
Gibran's death, and the poet gave Ghareeb permission to translate
all of his Arabic writings into English.
    Ghareeb's translation of ``The Prophet'' sold more than 8
million copies. The most famous of his translations, ``Prose
Poems'' was published in 1934 and is in its 31st printing.
----
L.A. Times -- Tuesday, March 14, 2000
Mary Elliott Cummings; Film Star, Actor's Ex-Wife

     Mary Elliott Cummings, 82, third wife of the late actor Robert Cummings
and a starlet in her own right. A native of Gaffney, S.C., she grew up
singing and dancing and was named state Azalea Queen. She began her
entertainment career in New York, where she understudied Betty Grable in
Broadway's "Dubarry Was a Lady" and later appeared in "My Sister Eileen."
The beautiful, blond Elliott also sang in night clubs and, as a model,
appeared on the cover of Collier's magazine and publicized the first rubber
swimsuit for Goodyear Tire Co. She later had film contracts with Paramount
and MGM and during World War II entertained troops in the North Atlantic and
South Pacific theaters. Among her films were "Girl Crazy," "Thousands Cheer"
and "A Guy Named Joe." She was introduced to the actor Robert Cummings by
portrait photographer Paul Hesse, and married Cummings in Riverside's
historic Mission Inn on March 3, 1945. Elliott abandoned her career to rear
their five children. The couple separated Oct. 25, 1967, and the actor sued
his wife for divorce. She countersued for separate maintenance. Their
divorce, granted Jan. 15, 1970, was one of the first finalized under
California's "no-fault" divorce law. In her charitable activities, Mary
Elliott Cummings served as president of the ARCS Foundation and worked
extensively with the National Charity League. On March 5 in Beverly Hills of
cancer.
--
From Variety ---

Bill Lewis Downer
Bill Lewis Downer, a major figure in American music publishing for four
decades, died Feb. 26 of heart failure at his home in Los Angeles. He was
86.

Downer rose through the music-publishing ranks in the 1940s as head of Decca
RecordsÆ Northern Music satellite, a position he retained after the firm
merged with Universal Pictures and later MCA Music. At MCA, he acquired the
rights to several hundred major copyrights.

A longtime friend to jazz artists, he nurtured and provided material for
such performers as Billie Holiday, Carmen McRae, Al Hibler and Louis Jordan.
He also worked with such performers as Rosemary Clooney, Sammy Davis Jr.,
Bing Crosby, Perry Como, Jo Stafford and Doris Day.

Among his publishing accomplishments, Downer promoted Victor Young and
Edward HeymanÆs ôWhen I Fall in Love,ö and Jay Livingston and Ray EvansÆ
ôTammy,ö as well as numerous compositions of Henry Mancini and Rod McKuen.

He also packaged a group of songs that Brenda Lee turned into hits,
including ôIÆm Sorry,ö ôDum Dumö and ôBreak It to Me Gently.ö

In his spare time, Downer was a horticulturist who contributed frequently to
the Los Angeles Times and the Brooklyn Horticultural Society.

He is survived by a sister.
-----------
From today's Daily Telegraph ---
Mary Maskelyne
Last performer in a dynasty of magicians
MARY MASKELYNE, who has died aged 94, was the last performing member of
the Maskelyne family of magicians.
She was the grand-daughter of John Nevil Maskelyne, who had established
the family tradition of stage magic in 1873. By the 1930s a strong
feature of the Maskelyne show was an act by Mary and her brother Noel.
In one of their illusions Mary was seated on a chair at centre stage
covered with a cloth. Noel would have cards selected by members of the
audience and Mary from beneath the cloth would identify them. When it
came to the last card Noel would whip away the cloth to show that Mary
had vanished - only for her to reappear immediately at the back of the
theatre carrying the final chosen card.
Mary Maskelyne was born in London on 29 May 1905. Her grandfather and a
friend, George Cooke, had opened the Egyptian Hall, a theatre dedicated
to magic, in Piccadilly in 1873. They took a three-month lease on the
theatre but stayed for 31 years. An early poster proclaimed: "Patronised
by Royalty, Nobility, Clergy, Gentry and the Public."
One aspiring performer whom John Nevil Maskelyne rejected was Harry
Houdini, though later he became a good friend of the family.
After Cooke's death in 1905 John Nevil Maskelyne moved to St George's
Hall, near Oxford Circus. His new partner was David Devant. No family
outing to London was complete without a visit to Maskelyne's Mysteries.
John Nevil Maskelyne's eldest son, Nevil, followed in his footsteps.
Nevil had four sons and a daughter, Mary. She made her debut at St
George's Hall in the autumn of 1927.
She soon became assistant to her brother Jasper, and later another
brother Noel, in their magic acts. In 1930 she toured South Africa with
Oswald Williams in a magic show called Hey Presto.
Mary Maskelyne was an imposing woman of strong personality. As a woman
magician, she attracted much newspaper comment, and herself wrote
articles on fashion and etiquette. When Maskelyne's Theatre finally
closed in 1935, Mary continued to supply acts for social events.
In 1934 she married T C Sterndale Bennett, the tenor who, the year
before his bride was born, had begun his tour twice round the world with
the Westminster Abbey Glee and Concert Party. The wedding reception was
held at the Maskelyne theatre between the matinee and evening
performances, in which the bride performed.
Sterndale Bennett, a regular guest artist at Maskelyne's, died in 1942.
Mary Maskelyne later joined the Players' Theatre Club in London, where
she became a popular stage manager and wardrobe mistress.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Heino-esque
Date: 16 Mar 2000 09:37:12 -0800


Ton Rueckert [mailto:[e-mail]] wrote:

> >I think I may have just heard the most fascinatingly
> horrible record ever,
> >in my obviously limited experience.  I say that because I'm
> sure there are
> >tons of records like this, especially in this genre.
> >The artist's name is Tol Hansse and if you need more info,
> the label is CNR
> >and this particular record is called "Moet niet zeuren".

... chop ...

> Yes, Tol Hansse's Dutch and in translation the songtitle means "Don't
> whine", "Stop bugging me", something to that extent. His claim to fame
> is his hit "Big City", which is bad enough, but probably not bad enough
> by your standards. If you think Tol is truly awful, then we have much
> more in store for you, look for Frans Bauer, Gerard Joling, Andre Hazes,
> Koos Alberts, to name just a few. And Lee Towers, a former crane driver
> discovered by talkshow host Willem Duys, who's perceived as the Dutch
> Sinatra, but swings, well, as a crane driver, but fills a small stadium
> with ease nevertheless. Last but not least, Vader Abraham, who can be
> considered truely awful after he gained respectability, whatever that
> means in this context, but started off as a producer and performer of
> (soft) erotica schlagers, now that is dehors categories. Luckily that
> material seems to be extremely obscure nowadays, so you won't run too
> great a risk of spoiling your sex life for good.

Tol Hansse, whose real name is Hans van Tol, was a trash-artist from
Amsterdam who became famous overnight with the hit single "Big City". His
popularity is mainly due to the fact that he can't sing and is a louzy
musician and record-producer and does nothing to hide it. This blended very
well with the rebellious atmosphere in A'dam at the time. I can see the c&w
aspects of this, I'm having trouble with the Heino part, but that's probably
a language issue.

Arguably more funny than his music was his appearance. Over 7 feet and
extremely skinny he always reminded me of a walking broomstick making a
screetching noise as it sweeps the stage.

This to me is the Las Vegas effect. Things being so ugly and out-of-place
that they become attractive. The good part is that otherwise mediocre music
sounds a lot better after sitting through Moet Niet Zeuren.

Erik
--
Erik Hoel                                   mailto:[e-mail]
Environmental Systems Research Institute      http://www.esri.com
380 New York Street                    909-793-2853 (x1-1548) tel
Redlands, CA  92373-8100                         909-307-3067 fax


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: re: (exotica) Diana Dors
Date: 16 Mar 2000 12:31:15 -0500



From Paul:

> I've been looking for _any_ cds available by Diana Dors.

You've heard her on the "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi? It's on loan to a friend so
I can't check to see if it's on the "Blonds" or "Brunettes" CD.

Which song did she do? The Rollercoster one? "Your mouth's a rollercoaster
and I want to take a ride" ;') Great song! Right up there with April
Stevens....


Domenic




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Heino-esque
Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:32:41 +0100




Ton Rueckert wrote:

> Last but not least, Vader Abraham, who can be considered truely awful

That reminds me: I'm still looking for Abraham's "Deine Monatsbinde". So if any
of the Dutch members occasionally runs into that song, either on LP or as a
Single, please get it for me. Will be extremely grateful!

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (exotica) Re:  Claus Ogerman
Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:39:17 +0100



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 2:29 PM
> Subject: (exotica) Re: Claus Ogerman
>
>
> > i'm just telling what someone else told me, a guy who works at
> > german radio WDR 4, he'scalled Suitbert Kempkes, his program is called
> > "Zauber der Melodien", wednseday, 21h.
>
> Well worth listening to! I heard about Suitbert about 2 years ago, when
he
> was a guest on a Dutch radioshow ('Instituut Schreuders' for all you
> Dutchies out there), but I only found out about his show on WDR 4 a
couple
> of weeks ago. Where else do you hear Esquivel, Al Caiola and Michel
> Legrand in one radioshow?
>
> Marco
>
>



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fw: records and bachelorhood
Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:41:09 +0100



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) records and bachelorhood
>
>
> > In the last two weeks, I haven't been quite the bachelor that I've
been
> for
> > the last number of years.
> > And I find myself thinking about records way way less often.
>
> Being in love is more than enough to make you forget about records, CDs,
> cassettes, DAT-tapes, MP3s, books, magazines, computers, Bill Clinton,
> cars, food, tv,.... And boy, do I know it. Spring is in the air!!
>
> Marco
> (still the bachelor that he's been for the last number of years - but
who
> knows what happens in the next couple of months...)
>



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) message bounces/test
Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:44:58 +0100


I am having some problems posting to the list. That's why the formatting
of my last two posts was a bit erm... exotic.

Marco

 Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek
+------------------------------------------+
 Record Collector's Heaven
 http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/
+------------------------------------------+



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: (exotica) Diana Dors
Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:45:17 +0100



>> I've been looking for _any_ cds available by Diana Dors.
>
>You've heard her on the "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi? It's on loan to a friend so
>I can't check to see if it's on the "Blonds" or "Brunettes" CD.


If it's on the Brunettes CD, I'll eat my skating cap.

Ton


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TIKI Music On Mardis Gras Day
Date: 16 Mar 2000 14:58:57 -0800 (PST)




So Its mardis Gras Day in New Orleans and Mondo Kayo Carnival Club has started its
parade at 7:45 am to the sounds of Jungle Madness off the Hypnotique album by
Denny.   After more Denny, some cuts  from , Le Guepe 3, some mambo & some
sitar(Jumpin Jjack Flash and moog (Cluade Denjean's Venus) and tons of Soca,
Soukous, Zouk, and Chutney mixed with mambo, surf, esquivel, shibuya-kei we play
near the mayors stand, the good ole version of the Tiki Tiki Tiki room followed by
a toast with Jungle Cruise playing in the background followed by Veggie Veggie
Fruit Fruit follwed by Mucha Mucha Cha

Its hard to imagine what the crowd thinks of 150 - 175 people parading down the
street, dressed tiki-tropical throwing real home grown golden bananas, with a sound
system loud enough to set off car alarms it passes with  the Tiki Room blaring from
the speakers.

It was Mondo Kayos (pronounced k-eye-yo) 17th parade and the first time the
carnival day streets were exposed to the Tiki Room.    I hope to play the Tiki Room
at carnival for many years to come.  Viva la Tiki Room!!!!!  Sign the petition!

Easy listening in the Big Easy

Chuck

--- Moritz R  wrote:
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Boulevard/1877/friendsoftiki.html
>
> The site of Chris Wingert who has been organizing a campaign against the
> closure of the Enchanted Tiki Rooms for years. It's possible, that the Tiki
> room would already be history without Wingert. I have posted this site 2 or 3
> times here and I call everyone again to sign the petition.
> Yeah! ...in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
> in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!
> welcome to a tropical hide-away, you lucky people you!....
> in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in the tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
> in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in
> the tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
> in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in
> the tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
> in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room! in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room, in
> the tiki
> tiki tiki tiki tiki room all the birds sing words and the flowers croon
> in the tiki tiki tiki tiki tiki room!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Mo



__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) TIKI Music On Mardis Gras Day
Date: 16 Mar 2000 15:12:24 -0800


>we play
>near the mayors stand, the good ole version of the Tiki Tiki Tiki room
>followed by
>a toast with Jungle Cruise playing in the background followed by Veggie
>Veggie
>Fruit Fruit ...

Hey, NICE choice of musics!!  After seeing it for years, I was very
saddened to learn that the Kitchen Kabaret at EPCOT (home of the Veggie
Veggie Fruit Fruit song) got closed down.  Dang, why can't they leave
classic stuff alone?!!  Along with the soundtrack from the attraction, I
believe I still have a kitchen towel and some refrigerator magnets from
the heyday of the Kitchen Kabaret.

>Its hard to imagine what the crowd thinks of 150 - 175 people parading
>down the
>street, dressed tiki-tropical throwing real home grown golden bananas,
>with a sound
>system loud enough to set off car alarms it passes with  the Tiki Room
>blaring from
>the speakers.

LOL!

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) dianadors
Date: 17 Mar 2000 00:51:32 +0000


There are some sparse tracks from the lady on:

1) Music For A Bachelor's Den, vol. 7: Sex Kittens In Hi-Fi -
    The Blondes ("Roller Coaster Blues");
2) Cocktail Mix, vol. 3: Swingin' Singles ("Come By Sunday");
3) Va-Va-Voom! Screen Sirens Sing! ("So Little Time", "Come By
    Sunday", "Crazy He Calls Me", "It's Too Late").

n. 1 is on DCC;
n. 2 & 3 are on Rhino.
I believe they're all available on CD, though I have n.3 on double
(pink) vinyl.

Ciao
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, Roger Longrigg
Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:46:32 -0500


    TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for
years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a
time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88.
    Kirby died of congestive heart failure Wednesday at Shell Pointe
Village Pavillion, a nursing home in Fort Myers in southwest
Florida, his son, Randall Kirby, said Thursday.
    Starting out in radio in the Midwest, the tall (6-foot-4), blond
Kirby teamed up with Moore off and on for 30 years, serving as
announcer and performer on Moore's early, live ``The Garry Moore
Show'' on CBS-TV in 1950-51 and the highly successful variety show
of the same name that ran from 1958-64 and 1966-67.
    The variety show was known for making a star of Carol Burnett
and for its nostalgia segments, called ``That Wonderful Year.''
    Kirby was co-host of ``Candid Camera'' from 1961-66. The show
created by Allen Funt, which secretly filmed unsuspecting citizens
in amusing situations, had at one point been a segment of ``The
Garry Moore Show.'' Kirby occasionally took part in the pranks.
    Kirby could be sketch actor, singer, dancer and with ease switch
from slapstick to suave sales pitches for a sponsor's product. He
became so well-known to TV viewers that the Rocky and Bullwinkle
cartoons had a plotline about the search for ``Kirward Derby,''
which could make its wearer the smartest man in the world.
    Critic John Crosby called him ``one of the most versatile
muggers and comedians on the air.''
    ``Growing up with him was a lot of fun, a lot of good times,
parties, celebrities and laughter,'' Randall Kirby said Thursday.
``He was a funny guy, funnier than most people realized. He could
hang in there with the best of them.''
    In a 1960s interview, Kirby said: ``I've done just about
everything in broadcasting -- covered news, special events,
disasters, sports, political conventions. I've had a news
commentary show, done interviews, audience participation shows,
sold products.''
    In television, he explained, ``the audience must accept you as a
human being before it can accept you as a star, a comedian, an
announcer or whatever.''
    Kirby wrote three books: ``My Life, Those Wonderful Years,''
``Bits and Pieces of This and That'' and a children's book called
``Dooley Wilson.''
    Legendary broadcaster Arthur Godfrey once told Randall Kirby
that his father was only guy in show business with whom everyone
could get along, the son said.
    Born in Covington, Ky., Kirby was at Purdue University, studying
to be an aeronautical engineer, when he walked past the campus
radio station one day and was waylaid to pinch-hit as an announcer.
    He worked in radio in Indianapolis, Cincinnati and Chicago and
served in World War II before beginning his television career in
New York shortly after the war.
    In addition to Randall, of Studio City, Calif., survivors
include son Dennis, of Ossining, N.Y., and three grandsons. His
wife, Mary Paxton, died in 1994.
    His son recalled the ``loose and wild'' days of early television
and the pranks that stagehands would play. One time, his father was
doing a detergent commercial and was supposed to pick up a gigantic
box as a prop. The crew filled it with cement and waited.
    Kirby picked it up anyway, amazing the stagehands.
    ``He had a charmed life,'' Kirby said. ``He accomplished many
things.''
----------
    LONDON (AP) -- Novelist Roger Longrigg has died at age 70,
bringing an end to the literary careers of Rosalind Erskine, Laura
Black, Ivor Drummond, Megan Barker, Grania Beckford, Frank Parrish
and Domini Taylor.
    Longrigg adopted those pseudonyms for various literary
enterprises, though he also wrote a dozen books under his own name
as well.
    He died Feb. 26 at the Phyllis Tuckwell Hospice in Farnham, his
family said. The cause of death was not announced.
    Longrigg's work in advertising supplied the setting and
inspiration for his first novel, ``A High Pitched Buzz,'' in 1956.
Further comic novels from the world of expense-account living
included ``Switchboard'' (1957), ``Wrong Number'' (1959), ``Love
Among the Bottles'' (1967) and ``The Jevington System'' (1973).
    Styling himself as a randy 15-year-old named Rosalind Erskine,
Longrigg had a best-seller in 1962 with ``The Passion Flower
Hotel.'' The biographical notes described the author as having been
``educated at home by a series of governesses, because of her
excitable and highly strung temperament.''
    Supposedly a true story about schoolgirls who set up a brothel,
``The Passion Flower Hotel'' was translated into German, French,
Dutch and Japanese. It was also the basis for one of Nastassia
Kinski's first film roles in ``Leidenschaftliche Bluemchen''
(1978).
    Longrigg was devoted to horse racing and other country pursuits,
and wrote books on the history of racing and foxhunting. Under the
pseudonym of Ivor Drummond, he wrote thrillers set in the worlds of
racing, yachting and jet-setting.
    ``Mother Love,'' a story of a jilted woman's obsessive love for
her son, was published as the work of Domini Taylor in 1983. It was
adapted as a British Broadcasting Corp. mini-series in 1989,
starring Diana Rigg and David McCallum.
    Longrigg is survived by his wife, Jane Chichester, and three
daughters. A funeral service was held March 3.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: (exotica) Diana Dors
Date: 16 Mar 2000 17:56:44 -0600


> > I've been looking for _any_ cds available by Diana Dors.
> You've heard her on the "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi? It's on loan to a friend so
> I can't check to see if it's on the "Blonds" or "Brunettes" CD.

It was indeed "Sex Kittens in Hi-Fi: The Blondes".  Diana Dors was
the "British Marilyn Monroe" and her album "Swingin' Dors" (Columbia
CL 1436) is considered quite collectable.  At least, I've seen copies
go for upwards of $200(!).  It's a pretty good album, too, and the
source for the tunes on the various CD comps.

Despite the dumb blonde image, she was a  fine singer. Too bad she
didn't make more albums (she died in '84).


Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU Radio
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, Roger Longrigg
Date: 16 Mar 2000 16:03:08 -0800


>    TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for
>years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a
>time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88.
>    Kirby died of congestive heart failure Wednesday at Shell Pointe
>Village Pavillion, a nursing home in Fort Myers in southwest
>Florida, his son, Randall Kirby, said Thursday.
>    Starting out in radio in the Midwest, the tall (6-foot-4), blond
>Kirby teamed up with Moore off and on for 30 years, serving as
>announcer and performer on Moore's early, live ``The Garry Moore
>Show'' on CBS-TV in 1950-51 and the highly successful variety show
>of the same name that ran from 1958-64 and 1966-67.
>>    Kirby was co-host of ``Candid Camera'' from 1961-66. The show
>created by Allen Funt, which secretly filmed unsuspecting citizens
>in amusing situations, had at one point been a segment of ``The
>Garry Moore Show.'' Kirby occasionally took part in the pranks.

I'm always sad to hear about the passing of another person from the days
of classic tv.  We lost Alan Funt last Labor Day weekend, and now his
sidekick/co-host is gone as well.  Hopefully there will be a tribute to
Mr. Kirby on a future edition of the newer Candid Camera show which is
hosted by Alan's son, Peter Funt.

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Fw: records and bachelorhood
Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:12:42 -0500


At 07:41 PM 3/16/00 +0100, Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek wrote:
>>
>> Being in love is more than enough to make you forget about records, CDs,
>> cassettes, DAT-tapes, MP3s, books, magazines, computers, Bill Clinton,
>> cars, food, tv,.... And boy, do I know it. Spring is in the air!!

(Or maybe someone else said that and Marco was just responding to it...)

In any case, I just wanted to clarify my remarks.
I've always been extra-curious about records and I'm sure I always will be,
no mattter how little time I may have in the future.
But without the time available to feed it, the obsessive aspect of my
interest will probably die.
And I do think there's a huge difference between being very interested and
being obsessed with it.  Or between loving it and being obsessed with it.
I crossed a line a few years ago.  Maybe it's not a line exactly.  Someone
cut out of my film said it's more like you start walking into a forest and
you don't notice that the trees are getting denser and denser.  But they
are.  And soon you're lost.
In my case, I think the forest got really dense when I started making
compilation/survey tapes for myself.  It was like I had to keep finding the
records just to make the tapes, not the other way around.
Right now, even with someone in my life, I still have time to look for
records when I'm out in the world.  But I don't have as much time when I'm
at home.  And that makes me less interested in finding those great piles of
stuff I used to grab.
It's like the tapes were a means of "absorbing" all this stuff and without
that, I have to now try and limit my purchases to stuff that can be
appreciated simply as another record to play occasionally.

I'm just writing this by the way, in case some of you are as interested as
I am in the "psychology" of collecting/accumulating.

In my film, I argue that "it's not the music".  And I think that when it's
as obsessive as my habit has been, that's true.  But with less time to
pursue my lonely obsessions, I think it will start to be more about music
and less about the object.

Then again, like I said, I don't really expect this to last.  But even if
she leaves, I have a feeling that the extra edge my obsession had, is not
going to return.

Yeah right. It'll just be replaced by burning CD's instead of making tapes.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis
Date: 17 Mar 2000 11:59:59 +1100


Alright, all you endless founts o' golden knowledge!  Help!

Can anyone tell me what would be the version of 'The Baby Elephant Walk'
that is done on a creaky, echoey sounding organ?  I imagine it was the
'original' recording of it??  I heard a snippet of it on the CD 'Music for
Little Ones' coming from an amusement park ride...y'know those little
machines you plop yer spud on and drop two bits in and it rocks queasily?
Absolutely incredible tune/sound quality, and since 30 seconds of it is
looped on the ride, I need the whole song!!

Next question...who owns it???  Trades anyone???

Thanks for the info....

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis
Date: 16 Mar 2000 17:21:18 -0800


>Alright, all you endless founts o' golden knowledge!  Help!
>
>Can anyone tell me what would be the version of 'The Baby Elephant Walk'
>that is done on a creaky, echoey sounding organ?  I imagine it was the
>'original' recording of it??  I heard a snippet of it on the CD 'Music for
>Little Ones' coming from an amusement park ride...y'know those little
>machines you plop yer spud on and drop two bits in and it rocks queasily?
>Absolutely incredible tune/sound quality, and since 30 seconds of it is
>looped on the ride, I need the whole song!!
>
>Next question...who owns it???  Trades anyone???
>
>Thanks for the info....
>
>Keith

Keith:  I'd recommend the original Henry Mancini arrangement (not done on
an organ per se, but does have the sound you want.  Can't remember right
off what the instrument is that's playing the melody--I don't think it's
a caliope, but it's very close to it).  Anyway, it's on ANY NUMBER of
HM's LPs and CDs as well as on his compilations, etc.

(working from memory here as I'm not home at the moment, so I can't
verify...) Originally, the song is from the Soundtrack of the movie
"Hatari", if memory serves.  So, you could either buy that ST, or one of
the jillion other Mancini LPs it's on (it's definitely on one of the
"Best of HM" albums, and others).

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New release
Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:06:17 -0800


Anybody heard this?

Adventures Of Superman: Music From The 50's TV Series
   Varese 66093  15.99
   -Superman And The Mole Men/Superman On Earth/
    The Evil Three/Crime Wave/The Monkey Mystery/etc->

Thanks,

Jerry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New release
Date: 16 Mar 2000 18:08:59 -0800


>Anybody heard this?
>
>Adventures Of Superman: Music From The 50's TV Series
>   Varese 66093  15.99
>   -Superman And The Mole Men/Superman On Earth/
>    The Evil Three/Crime Wave/The Monkey Mystery/etc->
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jerry

Wow, no, I haven't--but that is one of my favorite classic kids shows.
Somehow I will have to make way in the budget to get that, for definitely
sure.  IMHO, George Reeves was the best Superman in the history of
Superman, and I practically had some of those episodes memorized.  When I
was in college in the 1970s, the series was rerun on a syndicated channel
and for the first time I saw it in COLOR!  I personally like the music
from that series a lot and if they did a faithful digital mastering of
it, it should be very enjoyable.

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alfredo Mendez
Date: 16 Mar 2000 20:28:15 -0600


Over the weekend, I picked up an armful of cool records at a
quarterly show I go to in Kansas City.  Played one of them for the
first time tonight  -- "Fiesta for Pipe Organ" by Alfredo Mendez (RCA
LPM-1444, released 1957). Pipe organ with Latin percussion, a goofy,
impossible-to-hate combination.  I've got a couple of Three Suns
albums that feature Mendez, but that's about it for the Mendez wing
in my LP collection.

The liner notes on "Fiesta" really caught my eye, though.  Dig this:

"Performing is not Alfredo Mendez' sole talent.  As an arranger and
conductor he has directed the sessions of many of South America's
finest vocalists.  Several years ago, Mendez embarked on a series of
musical compositions with one objective -- reality.  The result was
the widely respected suite for strings and percussion, Suite Amazon.

A tone poem, Mi Toreador, was written employing the progressive
method of musique concrete.  A more recent development of the
artist's was a concerto for pipe organ and the sounds of space and
motion.  Unique?  Imagine, if you will, a pipe organ accompanied by
vacuum cleaners, blenders, air conditioners and other appliances!"

The Dean Elliott of the pipe organ?  Does anyone know anything about
this guy?  More importantly, are there recordings of these pieces out
there anywhere? I did a web search but didn't turn up very much.

Any assistance much appreciated.  Thanks!

Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU Radio
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retrolisten.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Skiffle
Date: 16 Mar 2000 19:42:23 -0800 (PST)


Hey there,

Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it
came from and where it went?

Peter

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bad records and then some
Date: 16 Mar 2000 22:47:57 -0500


Nat wrote:
> I think I may have just heard the most fascinatingly horrible record ever,
> in my obviously limited experience...  The artist's name is Tol Hansse
> It reminds me of Heino, with a bit of a country and western influence.
Yikes.  I know this feeling!  Had the same experience with Big Walter Solek
and his Polish House Party.  Yes I should have known better but how could
you resist that name! Then there was that Joe Burghardt Orchestra & Chorus
- Gemutlichkeit In Winnipeg which Allan sent me.  It was a centennial
project after all and I am from there originally but...  What I'd like to
know though are there any Dutch acts from this era that are good?  There are
plenty from Germany, France and Italy though the percentage of bad to good
ones is much higher.  Still, acts from Holland beside Heintje were never all
that known here.  I know Johan has featured some really good things from
Holland and Belgium in some of his earlier Fantastica shows. I may be sorry
I asked since the odds of finding any of this stuff here in Canada are slim,
but still, I pursued Schlager in spite of the odds and have been pleasantly
surprised even here...

> Subject: (exotica) shameless self promotion
> http://www.iprimus.ca/~klymkiw/vinyl.html
Not to detract from Nat's movie but the owner of said webpage makes many of
the subjects in Nats's movie seem well....uh... normal!  I think Greg may
even have been in the movie come to think of it!

Anyway one more item:
Just bought this record for more than I would have liked to spend, but still
less than a new domestic CD.  It's as "now" sound as one can get and then
some! It's on a cheapie Canadian budget label of yester year (Trans-Canada).
It's called "A Little Bit of Beat" by Juergen Franke Sextet.  Anyone know
more about them?





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Skiffle
Date: 16 Mar 2000 23:19:28 EST



In a message dated 3/16/0 10:43:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it
>came from and where it went?

late 50's Brit Shit..EG "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor On The Bedpost
Over Nite" by Lonnie Donegan....possible followup" "Concrete And Clay" by
Unit 4 Plus 2...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Arrivals #87
Date: 16 Mar 2000 23:49:23 -0500 (EST)


Here's excerpts from the latest Aquarius Records new-release newsletter.
Anyone got any comments on any of these? Any worth seeking out?

-Lou


>                       <(    Aquarius Records    )>
>                   <()   )   New Arrivals #87   (  ()>
>----*  Records of the Week :

>MILK CULT  "Project M-13"  (0 To 1)  cd  13.98
>   Wow -- one of the rare AQ Unanimous Staff Favorites. Ex-members of ye
>olde local band Steelpole Bathtub have put together this AMAZING Milk Cult
>record. Sounding nothing like Steelpole whatsoever, this is an experimental
>melange of dance, rock, and lounge music that's so f***ing accessible and
>so kickass serious fun that we sell a copy almost every time we play this
>in the store. It features everything from throaty French singers to
>earth-trembling bass to random noises and disco, plus lovely wailing guitar
>soloes, exotica, bird calls, you name it. The recipients of a French arts
>grant, Milk Cult spent a month recording "traditional Corsican singers;
>Buddhist chanters; Algerian folk improvisors; French folkies; industrial
>noisicians; rockers; jazzbos; hip hop artists; spoken word artists;
>electronics experimenters; a thirty-piece African orchestra; a Conch
>player; all of whom played along with backing tracks prepared by Milk Cult
>but never with each other..." The entire thing is put together so well it
>is seamless, and we think you will love it. Highest recommendations for a
>record that really shouldn't be overlooked.

>JANDEK  "Later On"  (Corwood Industries)  cd  8.98
>   The isolationist. The neurotic. The one. The only. Jandek. In what may
>be a response to the queries about the status of his earliest work (which
>has been out of print for almost two decades), this hermetic Texan has now
>been re-issuing these records. "Later On" is his second album of
>lithium-soaked folk; a pseudo-jangle on the guitar barely carrying a
>tuneand daydreaming poetry crooned with a creepier voice-crack than Will
>Oldham could ever conjur. The mysteries of Jandek, personal and musical,
>may never be fully revealed, but his peculiar genius is highly recommended
>none the less.
>

THE ANANDA SHANKAR EXPERIENCE & STATE OF BENGAL  "Walking On"
      (Real World)  cd  16.98
   Ananda Shankar (RIP) met up in '99 with British "Asian Underground" DJ
State of Bengal for this sitar-funk-electronica session. Indeed an
"illustrious cult figure in the secret history of pop culture", Shankar was
famed for his East-meets-West psychedelic pop experiments decades ago, and
this is a fun and fitting finale to his career. If you were into the
"Untouchable Outcaste Beats" comp (which featured an old Shankar track
alongside folks from the new Asian/UK DJ scene) and/or are a fan of the
likes of Talvin Singh, you should check this out.

SUMAC, YMA  "The Ultimate Yma Sumac Collection"  (Capitol)  cd  15.98
   21 tracks of vintage Yma Sumac exotica, and we do mean exotica: monkeys,
volcanos, and pagan rituals all figure into these songs, taken from classic
albums like "Voice Of The Xtabay" and "Legend Of The Sun Virgin". This is a
good starting place for anyone who has yet to explore the Technicolor work
of this "Peruvian" singer and her lounge-y '50s sounds. Her four and a half
octave voice will wow you, the liner notes are informative, and you get the
"hits" here plus some unreleased tracks ("Inca Waltz" for one) as well.

V/A  "Clicks & Cuts"  (Mille Plateaux)  2cd  17.98
   Following the awesome 'Modulations & Transformations' compilations,
Mille Plateaux presents yet another veritable encyclopedia of electronica
minimalism. A nice addendum to the 20' to 2000 series, 'Clicks & Cuts'
features a handful of electronica technicians recontextualizing digital
residue into a variety of melodic & rhythmic structures. While only a few
of the tracks are exclusive to the compilation, it's still quite a handy
collection. The artists include Wolfgang Voigt's All moniker, Thomas
Brinkmann (recording under his dead sister's name and sampling Blixa
Bargeld), Pan Sonic, Kit Clayton, Vladislav Delay, Goem, Pole, Panacea, Kid
606, Stillupsteypa, and more!

V/A  "Knitting On The Roof"  (Knitting Factory Records/JAM)  cd  15.98
   Yes, it's "The Fiddler On The Roof" as interpreted by an interesting
selection Knitting Factory friends. The Magnetic Fields do "If I Were A
Rich Man," Negativland does "Tevye's Dream", The Residents do
"Matchmaker"...you get the idea. Definitely a fun concept.
   (Although whether this has a deeper meaning in the context of the
downtown nyc new Jewish music movement I don't know). Kf's michael dorf
says "the inspiration for this project came from a combination of humor and
commercialism." Other participants include David S. Ware, Uri Caine, Eugene
Chadbourne, Elliott Sharp, Come, Hasidic New Wave, The New Orleans Klezmer
Allstars, Naftule's Dream, Jill Sobule, and The Paradox Trio.

V/A  "In His Own Sweet Way: A Tribute To Dave Brubeck"  (Avant)  cd  21.00
   Jazz legend Dave Brubeck gets the tribute treatment courtesy of John
Zorn's Avant label, who have gathered together a bunch of the usual
suspects to cover Brubeck's compositions. For me, the highlight is the
Ruins' version of "Blue Rondo A La Turk", a piece tailor-made for their
hyper, heavy, and humorous delivery, but we also hear from the likes of
Bill Frisell, Uri Caine, Dave Douglas, Joey Baron, Eyvind Kang, Erik
Friedlander, Anthony Coleman, and Medeski, Martin, & Wood among others.
Quite enjoyable.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis
Date: 16 Mar 2000 23:55:48 EST


I've got so many great recordings of that song.  It's one of those hard to
lose tunes, if it's on an LP it's usually cool no matter who arranged it.  I
will try to rack my brain and see if I can find the version you have
described.  Did it have female wordless vocals by any chance.  There is a
great version on the Anita Kerr Singers "We Dig Mancini" LP.  I have a
version on a demonstration LP.  The LP was made to sell a brand of electric
organs.  It's the organ with a drummer and bass player backing him up.
KILLER Baby Elephant on that one.  Also a crazy Take 5 & Caravan!
Larry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis
Date: 17 Mar 2000 00:26:20 EST


<< Can anyone tell me what would be the version of 'The Baby Elephant Walk'
 that is done on a creaky, echoey sounding organ? ...I heard a snippet of it
on the CD 'Music for Little Ones' coming from an amusement park ride.. >>

That's a tough one.  For starters, I wonder how many people even have that
ice cream truck / kiddie ride CD, which contains field recordings from
Fairyland in Oakland.   My hat's off to Mark Simon and Melinda Fay for
putting this (Sounds For Little Ones) and also "One of One" together.

I know just the track, 25.  Wrinkled Grey Elephant.  Who did it?  I'd like to
know too.  Wonderfully creepy!

I can see a how many versions of BEW thread coming...


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis
Date: 16 Mar 2000 22:15:19 -0800


><< Can anyone tell me what would be the version of 'The Baby Elephant Walk'
> that is done on a creaky, echoey sounding organ? ...

To continue the post I started earlier on this, I'm home now and just a
casual perusal of HM recordings revealed BEW on these albums:

Mancini/Galway "In the Pink" album has BEW
Disk 2 of the "Days of Wine and Roses" HM boxed set has BEW
"Hatari" soundtrack album has BEW
HM, A Legendary Performer (compilation) has BEW
HM, Pure Gold (compilation) has BEW
HM All Time Greatest Hits (compilation) has BEW
HM Collection (compilation) CD has BEW
The Best of Mancini (compilation) has BEW

All eight of the above are CDs I checked; I haven't gone through any LPs
yet, of which BEW is on several!!!!  Anyway, the compilations and the
boxed set are still available at many locations.

I also checked in Mancini's biography entitled "Did They Mention the
Music?" and on page 110, it says:  "I was always looking for unusual
instruments and somehow had become aware of an electric calliope made by
a man name Mr. Baccigalupi in Long Beach.  You didn't get all the spit
and whoosh you do with a regular steam calliope.  It had a perfect sound;
light, airy, and perfect for what I had to put there on the screen, and
there was only one like that in the world.  On top of that, I thought
that because the elephants were little creatures, I would use an E-flat
clarinet over the calliope.  It created something with a really different
sound to it, especially in the middle of Africa [where filming took
place]."

Hope this helps.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (Boston nightclub)
Date: 17 Mar 2000 01:37:34 -0500 (EST)



******PANDORA's BOX*******
"60's Euro & Exotica club"
Sunday nights, Grand opening March 19th!
at the Lava Bar, 575 Commonwealth ave,Boston (above Howard Johnsons) [phone]
Top floor penthouse suite w/a 360 degree panoramic view of the Boston skyline
60's euro sexploitation flicks & 60's french music vids
Performances by gogo gals Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation
new "remote controlled" lighted gogo boxes!
Chill out booths & large dancefloor
Hosts: DjVinny(GoGo Empire) & Sir Richard (Phase4)
Dj's spinning 60's euro soundtracks,Frenchie yeye,europop,loungecore,& more!

check out our cool flyer at:
  www.project3.com/pandora.htm




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle
Date: 17 Mar 2000 17:54:38 +1100


on 17/3/00 3:19 PM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 3/16/0 10:43:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it
>> came from and where it went?
>
> late 50's Brit Shit..EG "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor On The Bedpost
> Over Nite" by Lonnie Donegan....

Also "My Old Man's A Dustman"

Lonnie Donnegan has just done a skiffle album with Van Morrison.

Philip

>

--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Marco \\\"Kallie\\\" Kalnenek" <[e-mail]>
Subject: re: (exotica) Skiffle
Date: 17 Mar 2000 10:01:48 +0100



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle
>
>
> > In a message dated 3/16/0 10:43:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
> >
> > >Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is,
> >
> > late 50's Brit Shit..

 Why shit? The Beatles emerged from the skiffle scene. That does make it
at
 least a bit interesting, doesn't it?

 Marco




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) *C*A*U*T*I*O*N* !!!
Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:32:55 +0100



"The dangers of passive or involuntary listening are
only beginning to enter the realm of public awareness."

British M.P. Robert Key, introducing a bill to ban Muzak
from public places because it raises blood pressure and
cholesterol levels and increases muscle tension.


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) I'm still giggling
Date: 17 Mar 2000 08:53:37 -0500




My vote for best new word of the year goes to:

"Cha-cha-sploitation."





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, (No exotica content-type
Date: 17 Mar 2000 09:05:29 -0500


At 04:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, you wrote:

> >       TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for
> >years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a
> >time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88.

This is a sad loss, but here is an interesting (well, to ME) sidelight:

Rocky and Bullwinkle had an episode arc, Missouri Mish Mash which featured
Boris Badenuv looking for the Kirward Derby, a hat that makes the wearer
the smartest man in the world.  I don't know whether Kirby hated the show,
or whether he had heard enough jokes about his name, but Kirby sued over this!

Pryin' Bills Up




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Skiffle
Date: 17 Mar 2000 09:15:32 -0500


At 11:19 PM 3/16/00 -0500, you wrote:


>In a message dated 3/16/0 10:43:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it
> >came from and where it went?
>
>late 50's Brit Shit..EG "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor On The Bedpost
>Over Nite" by Lonnie Donegan....possible followup" "Concrete And Clay" by
>Unit 4 Plus 2...JB

Skiffle actually has it's roots in America and was recorded back in the
1930's.  Here is an essay about it: http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=J267

The song DJJimmyBee is referring to was originally called "Does Your
Spearmint...".  Donegan was immensely popular and honestly believed that
this Rock 'n' Roll nonsense would pass and the kids would come back to
skiffle.  Donegan had both the Music Hall side "My Old Man's a Dustman" and
the folk side, "Jack of Diamonds", "Rock Island Line", going for him.  I
suppose that the English considered this music, um...well, exotic.

There was even a skiffle band called the Quarrymen, but little, if any
documentation exists on what happened to that band.

I am no great skiffle fan, but to my great surprise, there are a number of
good songs on Mungo Jerry's first album.  "In the Summertime" is one of the
lesser songs on the record.

A dollar is a dollar and a dime is a dime,
I'd type another message, but I haven't got the time,
Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Monkey Music
Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:25:15 +0100



The many (amateur) bartenders on this list may be interested in
a few tips on how to handle their waters (= vodka in Russian):

A drinking rant by David Bowman

http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/03/17/drinking/index.html

A former bartender on amateurs, hangovers, Russians and believing you're
Irish.




 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) skiffle
Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:41:21 -0000


One aspect of skiffle not mentioned was that it was very much home-made
music.  Very cheap,  you would need a(n accoustic) guitar,  but the rest of
the instruments could be cobbled together from scrap.  Tea chest bass (a tea
chest, with a broomhandle stuck in the top,  bit of string - presto! bass),
percussion can be found anywhere.

My mother claims she had a skiffle group in her office,  she played the
toothed ratchet out of an old filing cabinet (a washboard substitute I
suppose).  I think Lonnie Donegan was probably the creative peak though,  it
also gave rise to other excrescence's like Richard Stilgoe (UK TV
'personality').  I would say the energy and roughness of it was akin to US
rockabilly at the same time.


El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle
Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:44:13 +0100


> >Can anyone tell me what the hell skiffle is, where it
> >came from and where it went?
>
> late 50's Brit Shit.

Spare answer, Jimmy! In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of
Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a very
popular and successful music style to do yourself. There must have been
thousands of amateur Skiffle bands in Germany during the 50s to the 70s. They
consisted of at least 5 members, often more, often wearing bowler hats, funny
bow-ties and mustaches. They used all kinds of brass instruments, like clarinet,
trombone and tuba, completed by such "funny" things as washing boards or
zoot-horns. A banjo is another must in a Skiffle combo, sometimes someone even
sings, but beware! The music is always in a let's-have-a-hell-of-a-good
time-mood, all instruments seem to play at the same time, but not neccessarily
together, at least it sounded to me like that, when I was a child.
One of the bands I remember, who were quite popular in the early 70s, was
Mr.Acker Bilk's Jazzband, I have no idea where they were from. Among the songs a
Skiffle combo *had* to play were "Ice Cream - You Scream" and "When The
Saints..." Until the early 80s you couldn't escape a German talk-show without a
Skiffle intermezzo. Somehow Skiffle even took over main stream in Germany in the
early 70s, at least in TV: It initiated the Jazz boom of the 70s.
If you'd asked me any time, which music styles I would probably never like in my
life, Skiffle would always have been one favorite answer. Today I suspect I
might have to admit that I even like a few pieces. It is this
blind-silly-happiness that I always hated about it, but suddenly I think it's
funny. But now these bands have disappeared.
Marco mentioned the Beatles connection with Skiffle: As hard as this is to
believe, you can hear elements of the music in some British Rock music of the
60s, for instance in tracks by the Small Faces: "The Universal" b/w "Donkey
Rides A Penny A Throw", one of their best Singles. Or if you know The Herd:
their "I Don't Want Our Lovin' To Die" starts with a highly surprising "Jazz"
intro. Or think of "Groovin' With Mr.Bloe" or The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band... Oh,
and this funny LP "by" Twiggy & the Girlfriends, I bought from Stefan Kery in
Stockholm. The first two songs on each side are easy Pop tunes actually sung by
Twiggy, but the rest of the tracks are pure Skiffle, that have nothing
whatsoever to do with Twiggy. You buy Twiggy and you get 2/3rds  of a Skiffle
record, which now is the only one in my collection.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web!
Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:50:36 +0000


Well, thanks to Swank Radio I discovered the new streaming internet
radio service Live365 the other day and have in fact just uploaded one
of the shows from my recent broadcast on local radio station Fresh Air
FM.

So, if you want to hear me in action, go to:

http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi

and do a search for "moon base alpha".

I may well transfer the rest of the shows up to the site and I'm also
hoping to put playlists up on my site for anyone who's wondering what
the music is...


Robbie (DJ Bongo Boy)

Moon Base Alpha - to Hi-Fidelity and Beyond!
http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/space/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis
Date: 17 Mar 2000 09:56:12 EST


Thanks for the info, BJ, but to clarify, the specific version heard on the
"Sounds For Little Ones" CD is what I - and I assume Keith - are after.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music
Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:56:39 +0100




Ton Rueckert wrote:

> The many (amateur) bartenders on this list may be interested in
> a few tips on how to handle their waters (= vodka in Russian):
>
> A drinking rant by David Bowman
>
> http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/03/17/drinking/index.html
>
> A former bartender on amateurs, hangovers, Russians and believing you're
> Irish.

No wonder. In Siberia they drink *pure* alcohol, and that's no joke, that's no
rumor, it's true. The one occasion, however, when I was drunken under the
table deep as hell like never before  -and never again - in my life, was in
Hungary.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, (No exotica content-type
Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:04:27 -0500


At 09:05 AM 3/17/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote:
>
>At 04:03 PM 3/16/00 -0800, you wrote:
>
>> >       TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Versatile TV funnyman Durward Kirby, who for
>> >years played second banana on ``The Garry Moore Show'' and for a
>> >time was co-host of ``Candid Camera,'' has died at age 88.
>
>This is a sad loss, but here is an interesting (well, to ME) sidelight:
>
>Rocky and Bullwinkle had an episode arc, Missouri Mish Mash which featured
>Boris Badenuv looking for the Kirward Derby, a hat that makes the wearer
>the smartest man in the world.  I don't know whether Kirby hated the show,
>or whether he had heard enough jokes about his name, but Kirby sued over
this!

I think that story does sort of qualify as exotica content.
And so do my memories of Durwood.  In the larger sense of exotica anyway...

I don't remember when I first saw Mr.Kirby but Gary Moore (not the Thin
Lizzy guy either) is one of my earliest TV memories.
I try to explain this to "kids" these days, what it was like NOT to grow up
with television.  I think we probably did have a TV when I was born or
shortly thereafter but somehow it took me a while to figure out what the
f**k it was all about.  I remember the period when programming didn't begin
till 6 p.m. and how one of the Buffalo stations, at a certain point, would
just point the camera at the clock and you'd watch the time move towards 6
and the start of programming.
But mostly I just remember these hazy jumpy dull images, like some bad
transmission from outer space in an old sci-fi movie.
These people were talking and I couldn't figure out what they were doing
there or what they were talking about.
And even when I did sort of get used to it and start to take it for
granted, I still had many many questions.  I didn't know what was funny
about stuff that was supposed to be funny.  And a lot of the time the
question was "How does THIS particular person get to be on TV?"
Gary Moore seemed so boring to me and Durwood seemed like the only human on
the planet boring enough to be "below" Gary.  And his name probably
contributed to that feeling.
And it's interesting to hear that he was satirized on Rocky and Bullwinkle
since, even though I don't think I understood all the references, that was
the first thing I saw as a kid that seemed to be making fun of things that
also "intrigued" me.
All those square-jawed heroes.  From game show hosts to men on white
horses.  I didn't "get" them.  They seemed too stiff to be stars or heroes.
Even when I got much much older, I was always scratching my head about the
very concept of the "announcer" or the "sidekick".  They were just so "white".
Somehow the tradition of the announcer, obviously dating back to radio,
reminds me of the music we call "exotica".  And "lounge" too, I guess.
It's like they were both created in the same "show biz tradition" that
confused me as a child and fascinates me now.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle
Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:04:29 -0500


At 03:44 PM 3/17/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote:
>
> Skiffle is the European equivalent of
>Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a
very
>popular and successful music style to do yourself.
>If you'd asked me any time, which music styles I would probably never like
in my
>life, Skiffle would always have been one favorite answer. . It is this
>blind-silly-happiness that I always hated about it,

This reminds me...

When I was making my film, I met a lot of the "hot jazz" collectors.  (They
don't really like the term "Dixieland" and when I mentioned striped shirts,
suspenders and those hats, they started to get very angry.)
This is not particularly relevant but it seems like the majority of 78
collectors are "hot jazz" collectors.  Sort of makes sense if you think
about the music that was released in the 78 period.
It's also not relevant but these collectors are probably the most organized
group of collectors I met.  Can you imagine all of us getting together in a
hotel for a convention where we present "papers" for each other?
(You really have to know these guys and their psychology but I went to one
such convention where a guy apologized profusely for his presentation
because it was about Charlie Parker.  He had "illegally" taped a
performance of Parker's at a Montreal radio station and his amateur
recording was now being released.  But "hot jazz" guys hate bebop and
Parker is the Devil incarnate so they were miffed.)

Anyway...
When these guys used to argue for their style of jazz, they would often say
that "jazz is party music".  It's fun, it's energetic, it's happy, it makes
you want to dance.  Whereas the jazz that I like is dark and somber and
even a bit intellectual.
And when they would say that it was "party music", I would say "Exactly.
That's what I don't like about it".
I guess there have been anomalies over the years - and my continuing
obsession with soft pop is certainly one of them - but most of the music
I've loved for most of my life has been sad, even dreary, even depressing.
"Here's a recording that a guy made on heroin, in his room, the night
before he killed himself".  My heart starts to race with excitement at that
idea.  (That was supposedly this case of one of the cuts on Peter
Laughner's record with the words "Guitar Player" in the title.)
I generally don't like happy music or party music.  I hate "Hot hot hot".
I hate polka but that might be for other reasons too.  I guess over the
years, I've enjoyed some rock n roll that could be called "party music" but
the idea of a band all smiling and saying "Come on, let's have a good time"
makes me want to reach for a downer.
It's probably the reason I couldn't get into the swing revival.  "This is
like lounge but it's party music".  "Yeah, that's why I hate it".
Is this because I'm a depressed guy who likes depressing music?  Maybe.
But then again, people say that you listen to the blues to stop the blues.
Anyway, what little skiffle I've heard - thank G*d - also gave me the same
skin-crawling feeling.  "Ooh look at them all having a good time.  Doesn't
it make you want to die?"
It also strikes me that I couldn't get into skiffle for the same reason I
couldn't get into Chuck Berry.  Or Bo Diddley, even though there is this
one early thing of him on film where he reminds me a bit of Question Mark
and the Mysterians.

Let's party.  Let's not.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Calling All Girl Bands
Date: 17 Mar 2000 11:17:36 -0500


Posted here cuz you never know who's lurking. Please pass along. Mimi

***
just thought i'd pass this along for my friend, love.  she's interested
in starting a site that showcases girl bands.  if you're interested in
contacting love, her email addy is [e-mail].  thanks!

****(snip)****

Hey y'all,

I was wonderin' if you know of any girl bands who have some
demos available?

I'm starting a new web site called SHE-BOP.NET (audio
revolution, grrrl style now!) where I want to feature
interviews with girl or girl-fronted bands and release their
MP3s. Know anyone who would be interested?

I'm gonna set up some kind of commission thing, which will
start real low, but maybe will get higher. Based on number
of MP3s we can use and whatever revenue we get from
advertising.

I could also use some writers who want to babble on about
audio ("how to", "which equipment to buy" , etc.)








# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Ennio Morricone soundtracks
Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:28:43 +0100


"una lucertola con la pelle di donna":

Boring, dark, noisy, without melody, except for the heavenly title track,
which is featured on "Mondo Morricone". Three other tracks are not bad
either, but all in all not worth its price, in my (melody-loving) opinion.


        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  re: (exotica) Skiffle
Date: 17 Mar 2000 13:27:11 EST



In a message dated 3/17/0 4:02:54 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

> late 50's Brit Shit..

> Why shit?

It rhymes


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Quickpace
Date: 17 Mar 2000 13:39:45 EST


Anyone know anything about this Spacepop group known as Quickpace?..Thanks. JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New Arrivals #87
Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:23:13 -0500


Lou queried:

> >JANDEK  "Later On"  (Corwood Industries)  cd  8.98

I haven't heard this release, but I have heard several of his other records
which could best be described as inter-dimensional blues for shut-ins. As
you can imagine, Jandek's music is something of an acquired taste.

Allan

++++Unusual Music+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Mondo Bongos" Wednesdays 9 - 10 am on CFRU 93.3 fm in Guelph, Ontario,
Canada
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Unusual Music++++


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music
Date: 17 Mar 2000 20:33:06 +0100




>No wonder. In Siberia they drink *pure* alcohol, and that's no joke,
that's no
>rumor, it's true.


True indeed.

Probably the vodkanovel par excellence is Venedikt Erofeev's Moskva-Petuski,
which is the route of the drunken train, where the conductor punishes fare
dodgers with 10cc of vodka per kilometer, to be consumated immediately,
passengers exchange recipes derived from such exotic ingredients as white
spirit, meths, shampoos and lotions, and indulge in philosophies about the
abysmal Russian epidemic of drunkennesss (not unlike Nat on collecting, now
that I think of it).


>The one occasion, however, when I was drunken under the
>table deep as hell like never before  -and never again - in my life, was in
>Hungary.


I was never drunk under the table, at the very most drunk in bed or on the
toilet. Most amazing was drunk on a bike, my mind was crystalclear (white
magic in terms of Erofeev) and I just couldn't figure out why I hit the wall
every ten meters. In hindsight it must have been that last shot of brandy.

Cheers, Ton


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music
Date: 17 Mar 2000 12:09:34 -0800 (PST)



This is a must read- should be in the canon of
alcoholic lit. In English as Moscow Circles.

> Probably the vodkanovel par excellence is Venedikt
> Erofeev's Moskva-Petuski,

Under the table... one weekend evevning when I was 17,
a friend and I, having access to neither drugs nor
legitimate alcohol, took shots of a clear moonshine
his girlfriend's grandmother made and attempted to
flavor with strawberry's (it turned them white, like
vipers heads, and tasted like something that should
only be found in hospitals, or garages). At about
three in the morning I woke to find (painfully) that I
had been stashed under a shrouded ping pong table.
Sure that my parents and the heat were looking for me,
I struggled out of the house and into the car. I came
to about an hour later, still dressed, still in the
car, my Dad shaking and cursing me. In my REM career
into the driveway, I had apparently run into his car
with a fair degree of force.

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Beach Boys "Pet Sounds" and Exotica
Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:23:18 -0800 (PST)






Joseph Lanza, author of "Elevator Music"  chose the tunes for an exotica
compilation on Time LIfe.   The comp was generally straight ahead exotica.   I
remember Vic of Victrola's Lounge commenting on how ingenious Lanza's selection of
"Let's Go Away for Awhile"  was and how well it blends with the othet songs on this
cd (whose name escapes me) I have this cd and the song fits with Martin Denny and
yhe other exotic cuts on it.

On the Beach Boy's Friends album there is a cut called "Diamond Head"  that is also
quite exotic in a Hawaiin way.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


--- [e-mail] wrote:

> Whooooaaaa boy! All I'm saying is that the particular track "Let's Go Away
> For A While" has defintely been influenced by exotica and utilizes one of
> exotica's master musicians to create it's sound. My comment on the family
> tree was just a throwaway aside and it was in no way intended to have people
> completely wasting there time over argumentsover whether to consider "Pet
> Sounds" an exotica album....I know I've got better things to do than that,
>




__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Baxter
Date: 17 Mar 2000 14:37:07 -0800 (PST)


Hey all,

I just picked up an album entitled Les Baxter's
Original Quiet Village, Capitol ST 1846.  It says Les
Baxter as the artist on the spine.  Can anyone tell me
where this falls in the Les-xicon?

Thanks,
Peter

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Baby Elephant Walk Crisis
Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:01:29 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:
> I've got so many great recordings of that song.  It's one of those hard to
lose tunes, if it's on an LP it's usually cool no matter who arranged it.


But here's a vocal version I bet ou haven't heard!
http://63.249.213.190/realaudio/songs/freedman-elephant.ram

After hearing it, see if you modify your assertion.

-Lou
[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Baxter
Date: 17 Mar 2000 15:08:28 -0800


I believe it was issued in 1963 (maybe I am misinterpreting "Les-xicon").

Erik

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Risser [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 2:37 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: (exotica) Baxter
>
> Hey all,
>
> I just picked up an album entitled Les Baxter's
> Original Quiet Village, Capitol ST 1846.  It says Les
> Baxter as the artist on the spine.  Can anyone tell me
> where this falls in the Les-xicon?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) skiffle
Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:16:30 -0500



Reader Geoff <[e-mail]> wrote:
> One aspect of skiffle not mentioned was that it was very much home-made
music.I would say the energy and roughness of it was akin to US
rockabilly at the same time.
El Maestro Con Queso
-------
Hmmm, I was under the impression that Skiffle was more polite and
earnest than rockabilly -- possibly closer to hootenanny folk.

Van Morrison's latest is a live skiffle date. Here's allmusic.com's
review (which may shed some light):


For many rock fans, especially those raised in the post-Beatles years,
 skiffle is something that exists solely in history books. It's not because the music made only a
 marginal impact in the U.S. -- its only real hit was Lonnie Donegan's "Rock Island Line," a Top Ten
 hit in 1956 -- since it truly did transform British pop culture. Skiffle faded into the books because it
 really was tied to its time, an enthusiastic expression of a newfound love of American folk, blues, and
 jazz. In a sense, skiffle was the punk rock of its time -- Donegan's jubilant reinterpretations of
 traditional American songs convinced a whole generation of British teenagers that they too could
 pick up a guitar and play. And they did, scores of them, bashing out rudimentary chords and
 scraping rhythms on a washboard. Skiffle inspired them to dig deeper into blues, plus translate their
 love of performing to rock & roll bands. Once the '50s became the '60s, skiffle was jettisoned, much
 like how the space shuttle casts off its fuel tank, as British teenagers focused on blues and rock &
 roll. After the Beatles blasted the preconceptions of what British rock could be, skiffle was assigned
 a mythological status as one of the roots of rock. Unlike other rock roots, very few people regarded
 skiffle highly, possibly because it was a bit of a revivalist hybrid in the first place, but more likely
 because it seemed like a provincial, antiquated curiosity to most rock writers. So, skiffle faded from
 popular consciousness, known only to pop fanatics with a sense of history and British baby
 boomers. In fact, most of those pop fanatics would likely only know skiffle from clips on television
 documentaries, and then they'll only know "Rock Island Line." All this means that Van Morrison,
 Lonnie Donegan, and Chris Barber's The Skiffle Sessions is the first time this music has been
 presented to a wide audience in decades.

 Morrison probably chose to give a pair of skiffle concerts in November, 1998 with two of his
 childhood idols not just because he was nostalgic, but because he has genuine love for this music. At
 least, that's the impression The Skiffle Sessions gives. It's a cheerfully old-fashioned yet curiously
 fresh album, due to the inspired, loving performances. The trio wisely avoids "Rock Island Line,"
 even though that's the tune that made skiffle and Donegan's name. It would have overshadowed the
 music itself; although it's a classic, it's also a clichΘ. By skipping over the style's best-known tune and
 emphasizing the music's foundation of American folk, blues, and jazz traditions, they wind up
 revitalizing skiffle while paying homage to it. Yes, this certainly isn't contemporary, and it may even
 seem corny to modern listeners, but this is a deceptively clever record. The trio actually emphasize
 the eclecticism of skiffle, delving into the blues here and there, letting Barber have a Dixieland
 trombone solo on "Frankie and Johnny," inviting Dr. John to play some New Orleans on "Goin'
 Home" and "Good Morning Blues," and hauling out Jimmie Rodgers' "Muleskinner Blues" and
 Leadbelly's "Goodnight Irene," paying tribute to both country and folk. It's certainly not a one-note
 album -- only "Don't You Rock Me Daddio" fits the clichΘs of skiffle, and here it's only one side of a
 rich, generous collection of roots music. Some might say that this multifaceted approach to skiffle is
 revisionism, but it isn't; skiffle itself was a hybrid, drawing from all sorts of American roots music, but
 given an endearing twist by idealist British musicians, who loved the American myth as much as the
 music. To its credit, The Skiffle Sessions captures this love of myth and music, while being a hell of
 a good listen. Morrison's career has been idiosyncratic and unpredictable, even while staying within
 the basic blues and folk idiom, but nothing has been quite as surprising as this. Really, there's no
 reason why a skiffle album released in 2000 should be as irresistible as this, but Morrison, Donegan,
 and Barber bring such heart and love to this music that it's hard not to be charmed by The Skiffle
 Sessions. -- Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All Music Guide



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Fred Kelly, Ron Watson
Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:40:24 -0500


    TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- Fred Kelly, a three-time Tony Award winner
and dance instructor who taught his older brother, Gene Kelly, how
to tap dance, died of cancer Wednesday. He was 83.
    Fred Kelly also taught Queen Elizabeth how to dance and showed
John Travolta how to strut.
    Kelly's son, Michael, said his father's first priority was
pleasing people.
    ``My dad was involved in every civic, charitable and religious
organization,'' Kelly said. ``He made time for everyone. People
were his hobby. He didn't golf, he didn't bowl, he entertained.''
    Kelly was born in Pittsburgh in 1916. He and his siblings
learned to dance at an early age so they could help teach classes
in their mother's dance studio. He earned money by performing in
talent shows during the Depression.
    In 1940, Kelly won three Tony awards for his lead performance in
``Time of Your Life.''
    Even after Kelly entered the military during World War II, he
didn't stray far from the dance floor. He was called to Buckingham
Palace in 1944 to teach Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret to dance.
    ``In the 1950s, my brother Gene was at the palace for a command
screening of 'An American in Paris','' Kelly said in a 1996
interview. ``Gene's going through the reception line and Queen
Elizabeth comes running up to him and says, 'Oh, Mr. Kelly, is it
true you're the brother of Fred Kelly?'''
    Fred and Gene Kelly appeared together on film only once: In the
1955 ``Deep in my Heart,'' they performed ``I Love to Go Swimmen
with Women.''
    In additional to Michael, Kelly is survived by a daughter, two
sisters and eight grandchildren.
    A Mass was scheduled for March 25 at St. Pius X Church in
Tucson.
-------
MARCH 17, 11:08 EST
New Zealand Magician Dies During Act
HAMILTON, New Zealand (AP) An audience of hospital patients applauded
when a magician collapsed and died during a show, thinking it was part
of his act, his family said Friday.
Ron Watson, known as Uncle Ron the Magician, was trying to cheer up
stroke victims in the Tokoroa Hospital, including his wife Sheila, when
he fell to the ground minutes into his act.
The audience thought the collapse was part of it, except his wife, who
tried to get up to help him, despite being partly paralyzed.
``Everyone thought it was part of the act, but of course she knew it
wasn't,'' said his son, John Watson.
Doctors spent 45 minutes trying to revive Watson, 69, without success.
John Watson said his father died doing what he loved. His magician idols
had been escape artist Houdini and Englishman Tommy Cooper, who also
died while performing.
Watson was a former member of England's Bognor Regis Magic Circle and
gave performances for charity since he retired 15 years ago.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Ledebur <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Find These Records!
Date: 17 Mar 2000 19:04:28 -0500


[e-mail] writes:

>My roomate told me his parents had a Barbara Streisand
>record in which she sang Bowie's "Life on Mars" (Hunky Dory).
>Does anybody know which album this is on

It's on Butter Fly, the only album of hers I own. I thrifted it years
ago for that very song. Worth having, but don't shell out too much
for it, it's not *that* amusing.


Peter
----
Music for Better Living
Wed. 6-7pm -- WZBC 90.3fm Newton/Boston
http://members.aol.com/Hifibliss/mfbl.htm





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Oh Yeah
Date: 17 Mar 2000 17:34:28 -0800 (PST)


I also picked up a mint condition record by Luke
Leilani and His Royal Hawaiians, Hawaiian Paradise.
It's all no-name Hawaiian songs on the COronet label.
Is this one of those re-issues that pumps the same
surf-based tunes into different packages?

Just wondering.
It sure *looks* nice.

Peter

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sat. in SF
Date: 17 Mar 2000 18:57:27 -0800




also tomorrow night (Sat)

Big benefit for H.E.A.R. (hearing education & awareness for rockers)

Featuring the ultra-futuro sound of Thirty First Century Lounge Music; rare
SF appearance.

MC is Dirk Dirksen of Mabuhay Gardens fame.
Plus tons of DJs....

3/18/00
7:30
111 Minna Street Gallery


Aloha
Otto

[e-mail]
www.tikinews.com



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 19
Date: 17 Mar 2000 23:05:25 -0500


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #87   "FSUK"

Sounds like something obscene, but it really stands for "The Future
Sound of the United Kindgom" - a label with 4 - 2CD compilations to its
credit, each mixed by a different person (or group), juxtaposing new
breakbeats with old sounds - everything from Jefferson Airplane to
Fatboy Slim.  Here's a sample of what to expect...

Moog:    Mastermind  "FSUK 3"
Primordial Soup:  Light 'Em Up Scratch 'Em Up  "FSUK 3"
Cut La Roc:  New York Pimp  "FSUK 3"
Skeewiff featuring Michel Legrand:  Come Ray And Come Charles  "FSUK 4"

Jadell:  Can You Hear Me  "FSUK 4"
Bootsy Collins Party Lick-A Ble's:  Norman Cook Club Mix  "FSUK 4"
Fatboy Slim:  Sho Nuff  "FSUK 4"
Sons Of Silence:  Bobby Dazzler  "FSUK 3"

E.T.A.:  Casual Sub (Rennie Pilgrim and 33/45 Mix)  "FSUK 1"
Outcast:  Criminals  "FSUK 4"
Pressure Drop:  Beyond Reason  "FSUK 1"

The Wiseguys:  Ooh La La (Full Length)  "FSUK 2"
Krafty Kuts:  Super Family Dope  "FSUK 2"
Pigmeat Markham:  Here Come The Judge  "FSUK 3"


Thanks for reading.


[e-mail]
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jim Gerwitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Diana Dors
Date: 17 Mar 2000 20:17:01 -0800


<<<<,Diana Dors was the "British Marilyn Monroe" and her album "Swingin'
Dors" (Columbia CL 1436) is considered quite collectable.  At least,
I've seen copies go for upwards of $200(!).  It's a pretty good album,
too, and the source for the tunes on the various CD comps.>>>>

"Swingin Dors" was a holy grail of mine after i heard "Rollercoaster
Blues" on the blonde sex kitten comp. And I "only" paid $35 at the KUSF
record swap some years back - the cover is great but the other material
doesn't quite match the cunning jaw-dropping lyrics of Rollercoaster. I
no longer put anything in "holy grail" status, although Yvette Mimieux
reading Beaudelaire(or was it Rimbaud?) backed by Ali Akbar Khan is atop
my want list. Saw it my first day on eBay last fall and lost it cuz i
didn't know the bidding tricks and haven't seen it since. Oh well, eBay
giveth and eBay taketh away, won Kenyon Hopkins' "The Strange One" for a
sawbuck this past week....

JB Le Noir


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Linds" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Basic Black
Date: 17 Mar 2000 22:35:58 -0800


It=92s Beauty on Basic Black
SATURDAY MARCH 4, 2000

Tune in to Basic Black sometime between 10:30 A.M and 11:00A.M on CBC Rad=
io
1 (PST on Real Audio  http://www.basicblack.com/) .
We=92ll here star of stage and screen and even a marijiuana bust Robert
Mitchum singing Beauty Is Only Skin Deep, 1967=92s Miss America Beauty Pa=
gent
winner Marilyn Van Derbur instructs us that Beauty Is a Duty. Just listen=
 to
Miss Derbur tell us that the way to please you husband is to get dressed
first thing every morning and put on a face because  "even a barn looks
better painted".
Sound good? You betcha! But that=92s not all folks! From the American Sta=
ndard
musical The Bathrooms Are Coming we=92ll hear My Bathroom Is A Private Ki=
nd Of
Place. What an embarresment when a gentleman dancing with his wife discov=
ers
that she is Boppin In Flip Flops from the American Song Poem archives.  A=
nd
there=92s a lot more!
Have fun=85!
Brian Linds




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Linds" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Basic Black
Date: 17 Mar 2000 22:43:12 -0800


Sorry. For all you listeners on real audio, it's between 10:30A.M -
11:00A.M. Eastern Standard Time. http://www.basicblack.com/
Brian



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Oh Yeah
Date: 18 Mar 2000 10:10:33 -0500


>I also picked up a mint condition record by Luke
>Leilani and His Royal Hawaiians, Hawaiian Paradise.
>It's all no-name Hawaiian songs on the COronet label.
>Is this one of those re-issues that pumps the same
>surf-based tunes into different packages?

It is. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 19
Date: 18 Mar 2000 11:53:47 -0500


At 11:05 PM 3/17/00 -0500, cheryl wrote:
>
>Space Bop #87   "FSUK"
>
>Sounds like something obscene, but it really stands for "The Future
>Sound of the United Kindgom" - a label with 4 - 2CD compilations to its
>credit, each mixed by a different person (or group), juxtaposing new
>breakbeats with old sounds - everything from Jefferson Airplane to
>Fatboy Slim.  Here's a sample of what to expect...
>
>Moog:    Mastermind  "FSUK 3"
>Primordial Soup:  Light 'Em Up Scratch 'Em Up  "FSUK 3"
>Sons Of Silence:  Bobby Dazzler  "FSUK 3"

You guys have started burning CD's, haven't you?
I know you're in the exoticaring and of course you have a radio show too.
But have you ever thought of burning CD's on a regular basis for poor souls
like me who read about all this stuff you find and with very few
exceptions, never even see any of it.  ( I did see a copy of Ursula1000 but
didn't buy it yet).
I know it would be a lot of work and maybe some days it would come down to
a choice between your son and your sad-sack subscribers but I'm sure you'd
find a way to do the right thing by all of us.
I read about all kinds of records that I'll never hear and in most cases,
I've made my peace with it but when it comes to the stuff you guys find,
it's still frustrating.
I'd do the same for you. You know I would.  Unfortunately I'm suddenly too
busy constantly cleaning my apartment.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Baxter
Date: 18 Mar 2000 13:26:12 -0500


Peter Risser wrote:
>I just picked up an album entitled Les Baxter's
>Original Quiet Village, Capitol ST 1846.  It says Les
>Baxter as the artist on the spine.  Can anyone tell me
>where this falls in the Les-xicon?

Buried in the fine print at the bottom of the liner notes is the
explanation--It's a "greatest hits" reissue, of material from his
five exotica-flavored releases on Capitol:

Ritual of the Savage
Tamboo!
Caribbean Moonlight
Ports of Pleasure
Jewels of the Sea

I presume the occasion for putting this together was when Denny's
cover of "Quiet Village" became such a big hit. It's a pretty nice
selection, as I recall.


JB Le Noir wrote:
>Yvette Mimieux
>reading Beaudelaire(or was it Rimbaud?) backed by Ali Akbar Khan is atop
>my want list.

Just saw Khan live in Ann Arbor last night! That guy is one f*ing
amazing 77-year old. Zakir Hussain on tabla. Quite a show.

cheers,


  --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Diana Dors
Date: 18 Mar 2000 15:06:02 -0500


>
>"Swingin Dors" was a holy grail of mine after i heard "Rollercoaster
>Blues" on the blonde sex kitten comp.
>Oh well, eBay
>giveth and eBay taketh away, won Kenyon Hopkins' "The Strange One" for a
>sawbuck this past week....

Does ebay change your relationship with your holy grails?  (And shouldn't
you only have one holy grail at a time?)  Is the Kenyon thing one of his
"crime jazz" things?  How do you find your holy grails on ebay?  Do you
just type them into a search engine or do you have to look through every
vinyl auction?
I've resisted it so far.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Cribbed Record Covers
Date: 18 Mar 2000 12:37:25 -0800


Some off the top of my head:

There's a White Zombie CD (called "Supersexy Sounds" or something like that)
whose cover (a woman in a hammock, I think) could only have come from some
exotica album.

Sleater Kinney's "Dig Me Out" album is taken from one by the Kinks.

And does the Clash's "London Calling" count? I know the title font and
design is taken from an Elvis LP...

Later,
Ben

np: derek bailey and susie ibarra, "daedal"

http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Diana Dors
Date: 18 Mar 2000 18:03:03 EST


>Oh well, eBay
>giveth and eBay taketh away, won Kenyon Hopkins' "The Strange One" for a
>sawbuck this past week...

<< How do you find your holy grails on ebay?  Do you
 just type them into a search engine or do you have to look through every
 vinyl auction? >>

In this case, you would type "Kenyon Hopkins" into the search box.  Simple as
that.  :)  Any hits will come up.

<<Is the Kenyon thing one of his
"crime jazz" things? >>

Yes, Nat, you'd dig it.  I think a couple of easier titles are up right now.
Mister Budwing and Yellow Canary.  Eleven Against The Ice is in there too.  I
picked up The Fugitive Kind there not long ago.  The Hustler is the ONE!!

<<I've resisted it so far.>>

You really shouldn't.  Then again, The less competition, the better.  :)
Seriously, this is a powerful resource for finding stuff, selling too.  Check
it out.








# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Skiffle is...
Date: 18 Mar 2000 18:51:24 -0500


Moritz wrote:
> In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of
> Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a
very
> popular and successful music style to do yourself.
Much as I've gotten over my interest in Dixieland Jazz, I'd hate to pass it
off or compare it to any do-it-yourself costume party affair.  I think many
people do attach this image to it, probably after seeing one too many Dukes
of Dixieland records, but New Orleans Jazz is one of the most important and
original musical styles of the last century and an important part of
American culture.  Skiffle sounds to me like a kind of cleaned up
middle-class imitation , likely done by white people, but imitating a
musical styles that was created and exemplified by blacks.  The Bonzo Doo
Dah Dog Band  may not be the best example as they made fun of the
establishment through their music.  Still I think I understand much better
from Moritz's description what Skiffle was.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Diana Dors
Date: 18 Mar 2000 17:54:28 -0800


At 06:03 PM 18-03-00 EST, BasicHip wrote:
>In this case, you would type "Kenyon Hopkins" into the search box.  Simple
as
>that.  :)  Any hits will come up.

And, even if none come up, just save it as a bookmark.  Then, anytime you
use that bookmark again you can do a one button search.  I have bookmarks
set up to search for titles, general categories or musicians.  I file them
in various folders under ebay so that I don't have to go through a large
list (hierarchy is easier to sift through).  Thus:
ebay>records>musicians>"Kenyon Hopkins"  *Once in a while* the ebay search
engine goes down, but most of the time it is quite functional and pulls up
a good list.  As long as the seller properly names the auction item or
gives a good description, you should find everything available.  Do put
quotes around the name, otherwise you will pull up stuff with separate
words Kenyon and Hopkins in them.  Not sure what non-"Kenyon Hopkins"
entries would come up with.  I do know my Sid Bass entry came up with all
sorts of non-"Sid Bass" type things.  People often put their items in the
wrong ebay categories, so this is a good way to make sure you look at
everything.  Of course, you could search a single category if you want by
first getting the category listing up and clicking the "search only in
the...category" button.  The search will be only on titles, but if you want
to, say, find a record with Kenyon Hopkins involvement, his name may appear
only (if at all) in the description, so you would also want to "search in
title and title" (another button).

Good luck!

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) OT - Digital Millenium Copyright Act public comment
Date: 18 Mar 2000 23:05:29 -0500


If you have concerns about the Digital Millenium Copyright Act and its
lock-em-up implications (no more fair use), the US Copyright office is
taking public comments (deadline of March 31, 2000). Information here:

http://www.eff.org/ip/DMCA/20000316_eff_dmca_alert.html

And if you don't know what the heck this is about, here's the first
paragraph of the linked page:

:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
The Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA) is a so-called "update"
to the US copyright laws, that strongly favors the rights of copyright
holders over all others, and may interfere strongly with fair use rights,
the right to reverse engineer, the right to conduct cryptographic analyses,
and many other rights held by individuals and by companies in other
industries than information and entertainment content. The law could even
thwart libraries' and museums' ability to archive information, and
interfere with education and research in our schools and universities.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) E-Bay summary
Date: 19 Mar 2000 03:09:21 EST


I just want to say that Bag's summary below met my needs to a T..Thanks B

In a message dated 3/18/0 8:54:48 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>And, even if none come up, just save it as a bookmark.  Then, anytime you
>use that bookmark again you can do a one button search.  I have bookmarks
>set up to search for titles, general categories or musicians.  I file them
>in various folders under ebay so that I don't have to go through a large
>list (hierarchy is easier to sift through).  Thus:
>ebay>records>musicians>"Kenyon Hopkins"  *Once in a while* the ebay search
>engine goes down, but most of the time it is quite functional and pulls up
>a good list.  As long as the seller properly names the auction item or
>gives a good description, you should find everything available.  Do put
>quotes around the name, otherwise you will pull up stuff with separate
>words Kenyon and Hopkins in them.  Not sure what non-"Kenyon Hopkins"
>entries would come up with.  I do know my Sid Bass entry came up with all
>sorts of non-"Sid Bass" type things.  People often put their items in the
>wrong ebay categories, so this is a good way to make sure you look at
>everything.  Of course, you could search a single category if you want by
>first getting the category listing up and clicking the "search only in
>the...category" button.  The search will be only on titles, but if you want
>to, say, find a record with Kenyon Hopkins involvement, his name may appear
>only (if at all) in the description, so you would also want to "search in
>title and title" (another button).


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new secret museum clips and site
Date: 19 Mar 2000 09:00:44 -0500


Hi, exotica list,

I'm in the beta stage (still designing, a long way to go) of the new
secret museum site, but there some audio clips and labels you might
like...

http://www.megasaver.com/audio/textlinks/prem2000a.ram
http://www.megasaver.com/audio/textlinks/dreamharvest25mono.ram
http://www.megasaver.com/sma/sma2.html
http://www.megasaver.com/sma/sma1.html
http://www.megasaver.com/sma/smaradio.html

Please note that there will be an entire show on the roots of exotica,
going back at least 80 years~!

take care, all... all comments welcome. The final pages will probably be
completely different! I write all HTML manually and i'm still 2 years
behind in code. Any suggestions, sites i should look at, etc. is more
than welcome!

there will be about 100 cool labels and many times that many audio
clips.

Yippee!

ck
--
Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/sma1.html
Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air"
every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
& WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM
http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu'


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dada's Exotiquarium: eXotica Releases Overview: 1999 favorites:
Date: 18 Mar 2000 19:44:12 +0100


i'm gonna add this cd to my fave's of 1999 overview:

Les Double Six: "Les Double Six"
CD, BMG RCA Victor 74321 65659, USA, 1999

French vocalese sextet Inspired by Lambert, Hendricks & Ross, that brings
swinging vocal loungy jazz. This 20-track collection spans the years
1959-'62, with  acrobatic vocal jazz arrangements of music that was
originally performed by the bands of Count Basie, Woody Herman, Shelly
Manne, John Coltrane, Gerry Mulligan, Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, Stan
Kenton, and Quincy Jones. Double Six member Mimi Perrin listened to the
trumpet and other solo's played by the original bands, and brilliantly
transformed them into words! Veteran of the group Ward Swingle later
started the Swingle Singers. As featured on the "Twist again au cine" comp
CD.

The "eXotica Releases Overview":
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm

Dada's Exotiquarium:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/

        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) looking for cover scans: Countdown + Barbarella
Date: 19 Mar 2000 16:43:18 +0100


I'm looking for good quality cover scans of Jimmie Haskell's "Countdown" +
"Barbarella" soundtrack. i've searched on the web, but only found Jack
Diamond's poor quality scans. by good quality, i mean:
full LP size 72 dpi (or CD size 150 dpi),
full color = 32 bit,
jpeg compressed "normal" quality, which is half-way the scale.

anyone who can help me? if you want something from me, we could do some
sort of trade. i don't have a scanner myself, so don't ask for a cover scan
;-)

speaking of cover scans on the web: Joe Holmes' "Gallery of Exotic Album
Covers" is gone!?

        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Julia Lee boxed set
Date: 19 Mar 2000 22:07:43 +0000



> Date: 14 Aug 1999 22:33:20 +0000
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: (exotica) rendezvous with an occasional man
>
> At 10:56 PM 14-08-99 -0500, Elisabeth wrote:
> And speaking of Mosaic, does anybody know of other small,
> web-order only labels doing this kind of quality reissues?
> Bear Family. They have their own website out of Germany, but it
> is often easier to order through ccmusic.com (Collector's Choice Music).
> Great reissues. I have Eartha Kitt and the Prima/Butera/Keely sets.
> Wonderful documentation and very complete. They have lots of other great
> boxed sets, though.
> Byron

Call me a latecomer, but lemme tell that these Bear Family boxed sets
are the best-ever examples of packaged music. It is just impossible
to make things better: complete recordings plus unissued tracks,
deluxe package, lavishly illustrated full-colour booklets with essays
that litterally tell everything there's to know, discographies, etc.
I have several of them (the Prima+Smith+Butera+Witnesses, the first 2
issues of the Complete Sun Singles, the L. Jordan). And the Julia Lee
one. I was so after her that I accidentally bought 2 of this. To
those of don't who, she was an overweight good time early 50's Kansas
City jump blues piano player black shouter; her rhythm was stomping
and her lyrics are real fun. Sort of a female side of Louis Jordan.
So I have this sealed box (5 cd's, it's called "Kansas City Star") to
offer for trade or sale. If someone is interested, please write me
off list and we'll arrange it somehow.
Let's jump for joy.
Ciao
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Julia Lee boxed set
Date: 19 Mar 2000 16:43:44 -0500


Hey, do y'all who are gone on Julia Lee also dig Big Joe Turner, another
Kansas City Star? Can anyone recommend a great boxed set of his stuff? Lots
of jumpin' for joy if Bear Family would release a Turner boxed set. Will
have to check out Miss Lee. Thanks for the tipoff. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Skiffle is...
Date: 20 Mar 2000 00:20:27 +0100




Brian Karasick wrote:

> Moritz wrote:
> > In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of
> > Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a
> >very popular and successful music style to do yourself.

> I'd hate to pass it
> off or compare it to any do-it-yourself costume party affair.

> New Orleans Jazz is one of the most important and
> original musical styles of the last century and an important part of
> American culture.  Skiffle sounds to me like a kind of cleaned up
> middle-class imitation , likely done by white people, but imitating a
> musical styles that was created and exemplified by blacks.

Absolutely. But have mercy with those German "Swing Kids", who had little
chance to stay up-to-date with what was going on in the "real" Jazz world
during the Nazi years, started their own combos when those times were over at
last. In fact they started from point Zero and picked a style as their
favorite which was the maximal difference to the ridiciolously ambitious and
sublime Nazi culture they always had hated. The skiffle groups never developed
any other ambitions than playing at parties and increasing fun. They helped to
reestablish a cosmopolitan side that Germany was about to loose and in  the
way they did it even became kind of unique, as surprising as this might be. I
don't say that I ever liked it, but for the generation of my parents it was
definitely a progress. You could say for them it was Punk.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OT - Digital Millenium Copyright Act public comment
Date: 20 Mar 2000 00:20:44 +0100




m.ace wrote:

>
> The Digital Millenium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA) is a so-called "update"
> to the US copyright laws, that strongly favors the rights of copyright
> holders over all others, and may interfere strongly with fair use rights,
> the right to reverse engineer, the right to conduct cryptographic analyses,
> and many other rights held by individuals and by companies in other
> industries than information and entertainment content. The law could even
> thwart libraries' and museums' ability to archive information, and
> interfere with education and research in our schools and universities.

"They" have to keep the creative intelligenzia on "their" side... join or
rebel!

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Les Humphries Singers
Date: 19 Mar 2000 17:33:33 -0800 (PST)


Does anyone know who these people are??

I have these mp3s that I downloaded that are totally
over the top Montenegro-style now-sound choral pieces.
 All Christmas tunes.  Totally enthusiastic.
Also, a bizarre quasi-hispanic take on First Noel.

Who are these people?

Peter

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Craig Carlson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hip 9-year olds
Date: 19 Mar 2000 20:42:45 -0500


Brian Phillips wrote:

>Yeah, like you all were hip at nine years old.

Of course we were! Hipper than we are now... Courtesy of my siblings I played:

Heartbreak Hotel by Elvis
Dontcha Just Know It by Huey Smith and the Clowns
Come Softly by the Fleetwoods
Beyond the Sea by Bobby Darin
Bongos, Flutes, and Guitars by Enoch Light et al
Witch Doctor by David Seville

and more...

Courtesy of Mom and Dad ("The Pares"):

West Side Story (Broadway cast)
The Pajama Game (Broadway cast)
Bye Bye Birdie (Broadway cast)

and on and on...

The funny thing is that I didn't really differentiate between that music
and the top 40 that I was also a slave to, other than to wonder why the AM
DJ's didn't play "Steam Heat" and "The Jet Song" along with The Orlons and
Roy Orbison.

Was I hip? The first record(s) I ever bought with my own money: "Louie
Louie" by The Kingsmen and "Hot Pastrami" by the Dartells (two for $1.29).

Probably not!

Craig

PS: About 15 years after my folks sold our house, there was an ad in the
local paper for a tag sale at our old address. I didn't see the ad, but an
old high school classmate called me up and alerted me. I went and bought
back almost all of our old records, along with the portable record player I
used to have in my bedroom.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FW: Moon Gas
Date: 20 Mar 2000 08:46:15 -0000


I was sent this over the weekend,  can anybody help the guy?  The boots that
were about seem to have dried up over here,  but I suppose he'd be after the
original thing.

cheers
El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
ht.//www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
ht.//www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/


> ----------
> From:     Bert Loan[SMTP:[e-mail]]
> Sent:     18 March 2000 01:34
> To:     [e-mail]
> Subject:     Moon Gas
>
> Hi there,  I just ran across your site searching for "Moon Gas". I am
> trying to track down a copy
> of "Moon Gas" as Mary Mayo was my Aunt and unfortunately no one in our
> family has a copy.  Any clues on where to find a copy?
>
> Regards,
> Bert Loan
> [e-mail]
>
>


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Humphries Singers
Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:46:50 +0100



Peter Risser wrote:

> Does anyone know who these people are??
>
> I have these mp3s that I downloaded that are totally
> over the top Montenegro-style now-sound choral pieces.
>  All Christmas tunes.  Totally enthusiastic.
> Also, a bizarre quasi-hispanic take on First Noel.
>
> Who are these people?

Les Humphries is only interesting for musicians who are looking for samples.

The last time I heard of Les Humphries was 1998, when he called a London
Newspaper pretending he was his brother, which soon turned out does not exist,
and said he was dead.

Check this out: http://www.zenon.ru/~uheep/lawton/lhs_old.htm

Discographie:

                                                1970 Rock My Soul
                                                1970 Singing Explosion
(Medleys)
                                                1970 Singing Revolution
(Medleys)
                                                1971 We'll Fly You To The
Promised Land
                                                1971 Singing Kaleidoscope
(Medleys)
                                                1971 We Are Goin' Down Jordan
                                                1971 Singing Detonation
(Medleys)
                                                1971 Old Man Moses
                                                1971 Sing Hallelujah
                                                1971 Live In Concert (Hamburg
20.11.1971)
                                                1972 Seasons Greetings
(Christmas Carols)
                                                1972 Singing Rotations
(Medleys)
                                                1972 Mexico
                                                1973 Sound 73 (Medleys)
                                                1973 Mama Loo
                                                1973 The World Of The Les
Humphries Singers (Compilation)
                                                1973 Live In Europe
                                                1973 Carnival
                                                1973 Happy Sounds
                                                1973 Sound 73 Vol. 2 (Medleys)

                                                1974 Kansas City
                                                1974 Sound 74 (Medleys)
                                                1974 Piano Party
(Double-Album)
                                                1974 The Golden World Of The
Les Humphries Singers (Compilation)
                                                1974 One Of These Days
                                                1974 Rock & Roll Party
(Rock-Medleys)
                                                1974 Rock & Roll Party Vol. 2
(Rock-Medleys)
                                                1975 Live For Today
                                                1975 Les Humphries 75
(Medleys)
                                                1975 Amazing Grace Of The Les
Humphries Singers (Compilation)
                                                1975 Singing & Swinging -
World Hits For Dancing
                                                1975 Party on the rocks
(medleys)
                                                1975 Family Show
                                                1975 The Les Humphries Singers
Live (Double-Album)
                                                1976 Singing Sensations
(Medleys)
                                                1976 Sing Sang Song
                                                1976 Grand Galas - The Les
Humphries Singers (Compilation)
                                                1976 Disco Dancing (Medleys)
                                                1982 Portrait Of The Les
Humphries Singers (Double-Album)
                                                1996 The Best Of The Les
Humphries Singers (Compilation)

(Can you read "Babelfish"?):

As juvenile counterpart to the medium Terzett may not the Les Humphries
Singers remain unmentioned, which landed a Tophit into the 70ern after the
other one and were still display-present as the merry three from the blue
mountains, it gave no music and maintenance transmission on the German
television, in which the multicolored zusammengewuerfelte Multi Kulti troop
did not occur and provided for tendency.  The Englishman Les Humphries (58)
came end of the 60's as a career soldier of the British army to Hamburg and
created with Achim " the player " Reichel the group of Wonderland there among
other things. 1970 he brought then the Les Humphries Singers into being, a
flippige by the American flow he power movement of the late 60's inspired
group of singing of both kinds of sex and international Couleur or. Skin
colour.

 By rockig poppigem sound thereby loud neck was sung accompanied, always
eagerly by all involved ones to inclusive that spectators rhythmically into
the hands applauded and somebody always hit on a defenseless Tambourin. Since
the complete choir would have blown up the capacity of most TV studios, the
Les Humphries Singers occurred in full occupation, the individual members
alternated rarely among themselves, to Les Humphries however always
participated, was with it however basically discretely in the background.
Special attention very often earns a Asiate with Schnaeuzer, that thereby was
and its speciality it to whirl with the instrument valley phases between the
individual strophen two metal bars by air while all different wiegten in the
background back and forth and-naturally again into the hands applauded. Apart
from an appearance in the Klamauk series Klimbim did not make the Les
Humphries Singers times before the commissioner stop. In the consequence the
night, in the Bassek died (1973) had Mr. Keller and its young the murder at an
owner of night club to clear up, in its Etablissement, who Allround club
(?!!), the even Les Humphries Singers live in concert gastierten, like a
poster in the office betrayed (on that by the way only Les was shown).
Surrounded by hair, Schlapphueten, impact and pairs of overalls the
Kriminalisten solved the case, while the Humphries sound roared by the action,
whereby in the full vollplayback beside Jennifer Adam and Hooray also her
largest hits mummy Loo and Mexico to the best one were given.

 Center of the 70's tried Humphries seriously, probably in an accumulation of
size size of, the King personally, Elvis Presley, to lure with a Millionengage
for a tour to Germany with which it wanted to occur with its troop in the
interlude. The fact that neither Elvis the did not react pelvis (at this time
for drugs, Cheeseburger and banana pudding was anyway only interested), still
its to manager Colonel Parker to an offer in writing at all, understands
itself actually automatically.
 Equal the first Song skirt My Soul stormed 1970 the hit parades, many further
best sellers should to center of the decade follow, apart from the z. B
already mentioned. We of AR Goin ' down Jordan , old one Moses ,Take Care OF
ME , We'll Fly You to of The Promised country , Carnival , Kansas town center
or old time religion 1976 finally sang the Les Humphries Singers, only
strengthened as Trio, but by lacquer ape Juergen " a grain in the camp bed "
Drews for Germany with the Grand Prix d'Eurovison de la chanson. Actually
would have Tony " beautiful Maid " Marshall this to do are, but the title of
the Badeners, which for almost thirty years with the same Curl lockenperuecke
runs around, is to have been allegedly a plagiarism, and like that was the way
freely for Les Humphries and its sings sang Song . To the first and only mark
one sang in German language, and the following text single dump was proof
enough, why one finally landed thereby only on rear ranks: " come ' sing '
with me, because sing frees for us all, sing ' with us, which pleases you and
for the whole world, because only the music brings all under a hat, we needs
you to sings sang to Song, etc.. "

 Afterwards air was finally raus from the Les Humphries Singers, the
individual members disappeared as inconspicuously as it had come (one of the
colored singers fled because of tax liabilities into Switzerland) and Les
lives for a long time already in Paris. The percentages of profits flow
further, however already owing to upper supervisor Stephan Derrick. As perhaps
everyone does not know, the schmissige title music Second Channel of German
Television crime film series that-of the same name originates from Humphries '
feather/spring and is as single tone carriers a genuine rare piece (is
naturally in the internal Cine4- file). Humphries was married into the 70ern a
short time with the Croatian actress Dunja Rajter (the marriage ceremony found
in the context of a pompoesen, folkloristischen gypsy wedding) and wanted to
set in motion their singing career by own success strengthened also, which did
not succeed to him however. Dunja turned dear Schlagerfuzzi Christian"Es does
not drive to to course anywhere " differently too, which should however
likewise prove as Flop for her (see: The brood of the bad one). In October
1998 the following events occurred: on one Friday afternoon, few hours before
radiant emittance of the last Derrick episode, called Les Humphries in a
Londoner newspaper editorship and stated, it was dead, whereby it output
itself as its own brother, who does not exist at all, as on the next day
should turn out. Instead it was to be experienced that Les is probably quite
frustiert and itself the time with the benefit of enormous quantities of
Chamgagners and peanuts drives out. As a once celebrated star he cannot
understand, why he has no more success. The Cineasti 4 however already. Beyond
that between 1970 and 1989 over 30 hit Singles, among them 1986 a Remix von
Mexico was published on the occasion of the football WM etc etc etc.....



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Humphries Singers
Date: 20 Mar 2000 13:05:52 +0100



>Does anyone know who these people are??
>
>I have these mp3s that I downloaded that are totally
>over the top Montenegro-style now-sound choral pieces.
> All Christmas tunes.  Totally enthusiastic.
>Also, a bizarre quasi-hispanic take on First Noel.
>
>Who are these people?
>
>Peter


Can't tell, hated them so much at the time that I went to great
length avoiding them, cafes and discos where Les Humphries played
were definitely off limits, hence I only remember the one that
couldn't be avoided: To my father's house. They're sort of German,
right, Mo?

Cheers, Ton

PS

Didn't Les die a couple of years ago? Lou?



 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits]Lothrop Worth,Shafik Galal,Stanley Ralph Ross
Date: 20 Mar 2000 10:02:04 -0500


                           *Lothrop Worth
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Lothrop Worth, a cinematographer whose career
stretched from the silent era to the 3-D craze of the 1950s, died
on Thursday at the Motion Picture & Television Hospital. He was 96.
    Born in Melrose, Mass., Worth started his career as a still
photographer in the late 1920s but quickly moved into motion
pictures, working as a camera operator and cinematographer.
    One of his most remembered films was the 1957 cult hit, ``I Was
a Teenage Frankenstein.''
    He also worked with many of the biggest stars of his time,
including Orson Welles, Gary Cooper and James Cagney.
    Lothrop and his late wife, Jean, were also charitable donors to
the motion picture hospital, where a wing was dedicated in their
honor in 1989.
    Last year, he gave 150 television sets to the retirement home in
memory of his wife. In January, he helped fund a new medicine
program at the hospital.
    At his request, there will be no memorial service.

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Worth,+Lothrop+B.

L.A. Times -- Saturday, March 18, 2000
Lothrop Worth Dies; Movie Cameraman Inspired '50s Revival of 3-D
By ELAINE WOO, Times Staff Writer
     Lothrop Worth, a veteran Hollywood cameraman who inspired the 3-D movie
craze of the 1950s, died Thursday at the Motion Picture & Television
Hospital in Woodland Hills.
     Worth, 96, spent half a century behind the lens, training his camera on
some of the most famous faces of his time, including those of Marlene
Dietrich, Vincent Price and Gary Cooper.
     When he was briefly out of work in the 1950s, he developed a system of
cameras and mirrors that created the illusion of depth on the movie screen.
Calling the technique "natural vision," he used it to film the era's first
commercial feature-length 3-D film, "Bwana Devil," released in 1952 and
starring Robert Stack as an engineer who battles man-eating lions in Africa.
     The movie so impressed Jack Warner of Warner Bros. that within two days
of its release the studio mogul signed Worth and his partner, Trent Baker,
to shoot "House of Wax." That 1953 horror flick, which starred Vincent Price
as a mentally warped sculptor who turns people into wax figures, was
considered the best and most popular of the 3-D productions from that
period.
     The first 3-D movie, "The Power of Love," opened in Los Angeles in
1922, bringing a resurgence of interest in stereoscopic cinema processes
that had been developed at the turn of the century. Thus Worth, who was
sometimes called the father of 3-D, was always careful to say he was really
the father of the 1950s revival, "because 3-D's been around for eons, even
before my time."
     When television began to lure filmgoers away from the box office in the
'50s, Hollywood rediscovered 3-D. Every major studio and many small ones
began to churn out "depthies" or "deepies," as the movies were sometimes
called. But, aside from "House of Wax" and MGM's "Kiss Me Kate," also in
1953, most of the attempts to capitalize on the technology fizzled.
     By 1954, the 3-D fad was doing a fast fade-out--a merciful development,
from Worth's standpoint.
     "All that directors wanted to do was the same old gag of throwing
things at the camera," he told The Times in 1993. "These techniques should
come as startling climaxes, but in those early 3-D films, all you had was
things flying at your head--axes, leaping lions, African spears, anything
they could think of. Done right, it doesn't hurt your eyes." But after a
while "bad imitators came along, and people went home with a headache."
     Born in Melrose, Mass., Worth moved to Los Angeles with his family
after they were bankrupted in a stock market crash in 1907. Growing up near
USC, he recalled seeing actors from early westerns strolling through the
neighborhood on their way to outdoor sets. That's when the Hollywood bug
bit.
     "I was intrigued with it from the time I saw the cowboys and Indians
walking down the street," he told an interviewer last year.
     His mother was working as a beautician for the wife of director Cecil
B. DeMille when Worth's father died unexpectedly of a heart attack.
Constance DeMille wound up getting the young Worth, then a commerce and
business administration major at USC, a job at her husband's studio.
     "The DeMilles thought I should be an actor," he once recalled. "But I
thought I should do something more technical . . . more lasting."
     His first assignment for DeMille was filming titles for the 1923 silent
classic "The Ten Commandments."
     He made a brief detour as a sound technician after talking movies
emerged, but eventually returned to camera work. He went on to serve as
director of photography on such films as "Gog," "I Was a Teenage
Frankenstein," "Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter," "Billy the Kid
vs. Dracula" and "Hostile Guns."
     Worth also worked in TV as director of cinematography on such series as
"The Donna Reed Show" and "The Real McCoys." He coordinated the scenes in
which Barbara Eden vaporized into and out of her bottle in "I Dream of
Jeannie."
     He worked at all the major studios, retiring in 1969 after a 20-year
stint at Paramount Pictures.
     Worth was one of the oldest residents at the Motion Picture Country
House, part of the health care and retirement-home complex in Woodland Hills
run by the Motion Picture & Television Fund. When his wife, Jean, died in
1989, he donated their $700,000 Brentwood house to the fund and moved to the
Woodland Hills retirement community. The fund named a wing of its hospital
for the Worths.

---------

   CAIRO, March 19 (AFP) - Egyptian singer Shafik Galal, the "King
of Mawwal," died Sunday of a heart attack at a Cairo hospital where
he was being treated for kidney problems, hospital officials said.
   Galal, 71, had been known for singing popular poetry in
couplets, or mawwals, and had a repertoire of 500 songs.
   His best known songs were "Ammuna" and "Sheikh al-Balad"
(Village Chief) in which he improvised freely and even added jokes.
   Galal participated in 72 films. His last movie role was in
"Zankat al-Settat" (a poor neighborhood of Alexandria) with belly
dancer Fifi Abdu, which opened here this week.
   In November 1998, the Cairo Opera honored him during its Arab
Music Festival.
   Even during his sole performance at the Cairo Opera, Galal went
on stage wearing a galabiya, the long robe often worn by poor
Egyptians.
   He was married and the father of a son, Galal Galal, who has
begun his own singing career.
--------
 *Stanley Ralph Ross
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Stanley Ralph Ross, an actor-producer who
also wrote more than 250 television show episodes, died Thursday of
cancer, the Los Angeles Times reported Sunday.
    The Times said he was 64, but an entry in the book ``Who's Who
in America'' gave his birth date as July 22, 1940, making him 59.
    Born in New York City, Ross was a freelance photographer, a
copywriter and advertising executive before discovering what he
once called his ``true vocation'' of writing.
    Over a 30-year career, Ross wrote dozens of scripts for
television movies and TV series such as ``The Monkees,'' ``The Man
from U.N.C.L.E.'' and ``Columbo.'' He wrote 32 episodes of the
1960s ``Batman'' series.
    He also developed or created TV shows such as the 1970s hit
``Wonder Woman.''
    Ross co-wrote the book, music and lyrics for a musical,
``Chaplin,'' produced at the Los Angeles Music Center.
    As an actor, Ross appeared on television in ``Falcon Crest'' and
many other series. His films included ``Tony Rome.''

and this from rec.music.dementia:
Writer/actor/producer/songwriter Stanley Ralph Ross passed away last
night following a long battle with Cancer.
The tall (6'6"), gravelly-voiced Renaissance Man was well-known
throughout Hollywood for dabbling in just about every aspect of show
business, among them...

TELEVISION WRITING: Stanley was one of the main writers of the
original BATMAN TV show with Adam West and he developed the Lynda
Carter WONDER WOMAN show, as well.  He wrote episodes of dozens of
shows including BANACEK, ALL IN THE FAMILY, THE MONKEES.  He created
and produced a short-lived NBC sitcom named THE KALLIKAKS and wrote
around a dozen TV-Movies.

ACTING: Stanley almost always wrote a part for himself in the shows he
penned but he also acted in films as diverse as HELTER SKELTER, TONY
ROMA, CANDY STRIPE NURSES and JOHN GOLDFARB, PLEASE COME HOME.  His
final on-camera appearance was a bit part as himself in AN ALAN
SMITHEE FILM: BURN, HOLLYWOOD, BURN.

VOICE ACTING: Stanley's deep, raspy voice was heard in hundreds of TV
commercials and cartoons, including recurring roles on THE PAW-PAWS,
SUPERMAN (Ruby-Spears version; he played Perry White), GARFIELD AND
FRIENDS, and THE INHUMANOIDS.  His most recent roles were as the
Pitbull and Doberman in BABE: PIG IN THE CITY and he had recently
completed recording for its forthcoming sequel.

WRITING: Stanley co-wrote (with Anthony Newley), the musical CHAPLIN
and authored hundreds of songs.  He worked with Allan Sherman on the
classic MY SON, THE FOLK SINGER album and later recorded his own
knock-off, MY SON, THE COPYCAT.Ross also co-wrote (with Jay Nash) the multi-volume "Motion Picture Guide
A-Z."

Before he got into TV writing, he was in advertising.  One day, the
agency for which he worked was shown the pilot for a series that ABC
was probably going to be passing on.  Stanley liked the show so much,
he convinced his agency to buy the show and to get ABC to put it on
the air.  And that's how THE FLINTSTONES made it onto the schedule.

Stanley was also a minister in the Universal Life Church and he
performed hundreds and hundreds of marriages -- very amusing ones,
often for folks in show biz.  (When Milton Berle married his present
wife, Stanley performed the ceremony and closed it with the words, "I
now pronounce you Mr. and Mrs. Television...")

He also either co-wrote or edited (I forget) Burt Ward's recent
autobiography.  And he was a restaurant critic for years for the L.A.
WEEKLY.  And if I keep listing things he did, I'll be late for the
funeral...

A full list of Stanley's accomplishments would fill up the Internet
very quickly -- so I'll just add that this is a VERY partial
list...and that he was a good friend to countless folks, myself
included, and a great help to me when I was starting out.  Miss him
already.
Mark Evanier - PMB 303 - 363 S. Fairfax Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90036



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mambo Italiano
Date: 20 Mar 2000 09:56:09 -0500



I friend who knows I like Perez Prado and Rosemary Clooney lent he his LP
copy of their record together.  Called "A Touch of Tabasco". It's a
wonderful record and just love the classic LP cover. But to my surprise
"Mambo Italiano" is not on it!  Just naturally assumed that when Clooney
did the song it was with the guy who created the mambo.

Did she do it with him but on another record? And what is it on?

"A Touch of Tabasco" is wonderful. I just had to say it again....

Domenic




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web!
Date: 20 Mar 2000 07:21:05 PST



>So, if you want to hear me in action, go to:
>
>http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi
>
>and do a search for "moon base alpha".

>Robbie (DJ Bongo Boy)

Id like to listen but it works only if you have a T1/DSL/Cable connection.
Why are all the good shows on this connection speed? Am I that far behind
the times?

-jonny yuma

56k and proud!

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web!
Date: 20 Mar 2000 16:02:11 +0000


jonathan richardson wrote:

> Id like to listen but it works only if you have a T1/DSL/Cable connection.
> Why are all the good shows on this connection speed? Am I that far behind
> the times?

That was my fault.  I managed to do something screwy when I was encoding
it which meant it could only be heard on very fast connections.

I'm going to try and put a version up which more people will be able to
listen to.

Watch the skies...


Robbie

Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website
http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/

Moon Base Alpha - to Hi-Fidelity and Beyond!
http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/space/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Number 9
Date: 20 Mar 2000 17:49:43 +0100


Greil Marcus - REAL LIFE ROCK TOP 10:=20


9) Chlo=EB Sevigny Gets Lucky in Love in "If These Walls
   Could Talk 2" (HBO, March 5)=20

After getting HIV in "Kids" the first time she has sex, V.D. in "The
Last Days of Disco" the first time she has sex, falling in love with a
man who turns out to be a woman and then gets shot in front of
her in "Boys Don't Cry," it's about time. Interesting music, too --
faraway, smoky soul -- as opposed to the horrifying washing-machine=20
melodies of the Ellen DeGeneres/Sharon Stone episode



Can anybody enlighten me on (horrifying) washing-machine melodies?

Cheers, Ton


PS

Number 10?

10) Washington Phillips "I Had a Good Father and
Mother" on "Storefront and Streetcorner Gospel
(1927-1929)" (Document, Austria)=20

A heavy-set, unsmiling man in his 30s, Phillips had a sense of
humor ("Denomination Blues," a deadpan account of the endless
antipathies Christian orders find in a message of love). He played,
and was apparently the only person ever to record with, the
dolceola, a kind of dulcimer that sounded like an electric zither
run through a Leslie speaker cabinet, showing you a heaven
populated by ghosts. In 1929, at his last recording session, just a
year before he was committed to the insane asylum where he
would spend the few years that remained of his life, he sang the
saddest song in the world, thanking his parents for putting him on
the right path. You listen and you know the world is poorer
because he is not in it.=20


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dada's Exotiquarium: eXotica Releases Overview: 1999 favorites: addition
Date: 20 Mar 2000 09:45:03 -0800 (PST)


Thanks for telling Us Johan

I've been wondering about this cd ever since I saw it.

Your releases overview and you whole site is a tremndous asset to exoticats

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck




--- Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]> wrote:
> i'm gonna add this cd to my fave's of 1999 overview:
>
> Les Double Six: "Les Double Six"
> CD, BMG RCA Victor 74321 65659, USA, 1999


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mr. Fodder" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion Radio - Week of 03/20
Date: 20 Mar 2000 09:44:17 -0800


The Friendly Persuasion Show  - Week of 03/20/00

It's an extended 2 hour show this week!

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet
Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to
hear:

1.  National Lampoon - Good-Bye Pop
2.  Miss Nelson & Bruce - Way Out Intro / Motorcycle Ride
3.  The New Zoo Revue - The Arts
4.  Bert Convy - Nee-No-Nah-Nee
5.  Lorne Greene - The Bonanza Theme
6.  Sandro - We Can Work It Out (Podemos Solucionato)
7.  The Brady Bunch - Keep On
8.  Lalo Schifrin - Mannix
9.  Rosemary Clooney - Mambo Italiano
10.  Unknown - Jailhouse Rock
11.  The Nirvana Sitar & String Group - The Letter
12.  Bonzo Dog Band - The Bigshot
13.  Jean Jacques Perrey & Gershon Kingsley - The Savers
14.  John Otway - I am the Walrus
15.  The Kids of Widney High - Insects
16.  The Shaggs - Why Do I Feel?
17.  Bert Convy - The Gorilla
18.  Frenchy - Groovy
19.  The Bugaloos - If You Become a Bugaloo
20.  Bonzo Dog Band - Beautiful Zelda
21.  National Lampoon - Papa was a Running Dog of the Bourgeoisie
22.  Edith Piaf - La Goualante Du Pauvre Jean
23.  Ken Nordine - Green
24.  Enoch Light and the Light Brigade - Puppet Man
25.  Chubby Checker - She's a Hippy
26.  Clarence Carter - Patches
27.  Johnnie Taylor - Who's Making Love
28.  Lightin' Rod - Sport
29.  The New Zoo Revue - Theme Song
30.  Monk Higgins - One Man Band (Plays all Alone)
31.  Bobby's Rocking Chair - Finders Keepers
32.  Peter L. Bastin - How To Make a Tape Recorder
33.  The Polkaholics - Who Stole The Kishka?
34.  Negativland - Greatest Taste Around
35.  Phil Ochs - Tape From California
36.  McDonalds 1979 flexidisc
37.  The Everly Brothers - Coke Commercial
38.  Serge Gainsbourg - Je Suis Venu Te Dire Que Je M'En Vais
39.  Enoch Light - Petite Paulette

Thanks for listening!
     Chow,
          Otis

Mr. Otis F-Odder
[e-mail]
Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com
View past playlists, find out where to order what you hear, listen to show
archives all at, www.thebranflakes.com/fp
To unsubscribe from this weekly email, just reply and say, "The only kind of
spam I want is the potted meat I dine on thank you very much" and you will
be off in a flash.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha on the web!
Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:31:37 -0800


Jonny "56K and Proud" Yuma [mailto:[e-mail]] wrote:

> Id like to listen but it works only if you have a T1/DSL/Cable connection.

> Why are all the good shows on this connection speed?

Basically, you need DSL or better for the audio fidelity - 56K simply
doesn't have the juice.

When you encode the MP3 streams so that they will run on a 56Kbaud modem,
you are basically limited to 11KHz (AM-ish quality - requires 32Kbps). If
you have a DSL or better line, then you can handle the 22KHz feeds (Hi-Fi
quality - requires 56Kbps). A 56Kbaud modem will not handle the 56Kbps
stream.

Also, live365 will only stream at 56Kbps max (unless you are one of their
favored big time stations - then they will stream at 128Kbps).

Some shows will set up two feeds ...

> Am I that far behind the times?

Unfortunately yes.

Erik
www.SwankRadio.Com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Listers RULE!
Date: 20 Mar 2000 13:19:18 -0800


I have been really inspired lately with the way in which listers have been
helping each-other out by reaching into their collections and sharing what
they have. There have been many instances lately of people making CDR's for
other people - just because.  That's so cool.

I was on the receiving end of a very kind offer from RcBrooksod who sent me
his Tiki-Room recordings including the PA barker announcements heard all
over the park  and all the announcements one hears upon entering the Tiki
Room - no flash photography, etc. Neato! Also included was "The Carousel of
Progress" A Dramatic and Musical meditation on all the marvelous
conveniences that await the American Family. Better living through
technology, and all that.  Faaaassscinating! Still no conclusions reached on
what I can do to reciprocate, but Bob just wanted to share something with me
that he knew I'd appreciate.  Three cheers for TikiBob!

I have also been able to do some really cool trading, and wanted to
encourage folks to check out Keith Lobue's list of records/recordings he has
to trade...It's an INSANE amount of really neat stuff.  I just got his CDR
of 78's - some of which are old self-made recordings ala Pea Hicks, but on
wax. Keith did a phenominal job of recording these records off of vintage
playback equipment using microphones rather than a modern phonograph thus
preserving or mimicking the experience of hearing the recordings as they
must have sounded "back in the day." Mezzzzmerizing! In return, he got 3
recordio disks that I had in my collection including a recording of some
lady singing "I don't care if I never (or is it ever) go to bed" I think the
other two are recorded letters. He'll like them cuz he's strange like that.

That is all...

Ron



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Chairman of the 'Boards / Punk
Date: 20 Mar 2000 23:09:05 +0000


That's the title of an article on the march issue of Mojo about the
mighty Hammond organs. The article focuses on the "Hammond Heroes"
festival at the Jazz Cafe' in Camden, London, which runned throughout
February featuring Brian Auger, James Taylor, Jimmy Smith and
Georgie Fame. Wish I was there, I love that fat B-3 funky sound.
Anyone of the londoner listers can report?

"Hammond Top 5" as listed by Mojo:
1 - Jimmy Smith: The Cat
2 - Booker T. & the M.G.'s: Green Onions
3 - Richard "Groove" Holmes: Grooving With Mr. G
4 - Funk Inc.: The Better Half
5 - "Big" John Patton: Silver Meter

It sends to this URL, also:
www.organ.force9.co.uk.html

"I taught myself," says Jimmy Smith. "I kept my Hammond in a shed so
no one knew I couldn't play it. I battled with that beast every
single day".

-----------

Though I'm an Hammond freak, I admit I didn't buy the magazine for
that one article. What got my eye was the cover story: a 20 page
special on the "nauseating, filthy, obscene" SEX PISTOLS. I have been
a major fan and just think that all records in the world must be
filed under 2 big categories only: before/after "Never Mind The
Bollocks". The special is an absolute treat, and the photos... well,
wow! most of them I have never seen 'em before. There's even a full
page sporting Sid Vicious licking Nancy's nipple. Pretty punk, innit?
We've been discussing before about the punk roots of many exotica
enthusiasts (do count me in), and I still think a good ol' punkick in
the balls is what will help me from becoming an totally indolent
lounge potato.
Gionni Rotten


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Number 9
Date: 20 Mar 2000 17:44:00 EST



In a message dated 3/20/0 11:52:10 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Can anybody enlighten me on (horrifying) washing-machine melodies?

The Detergents..."Leader Of The Laundromat" (send-up of Shangri-La's "Leader
Of The Pack")


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music
Date: 20 Mar 2000 15:14:24 +0000


Hi everyone!
I haven't been able to read the list for a while; I have moved in Ireland
for about one month and a half, plus I've spent the past week in Disney
World with my girlfriend and I was able to visit the infamous "new" Tiki
Room, too;)
I am now online on another account and I think this change will be
permanent even when I get back to Italy.

The tiki room was fun, even if it is a pity they've changed it... Gloria
Estefan music is not exactly "tiki"... hehehe...
Btw, I've found a custom cd machine in the Animal Kingdom park (I think it
was in Asia) and from that one you should (theorically) be able to burn a
cd of Disney park themes.
Sadly, some of the sections in the computers you browse are not updated, so
for some of the parks/resorts you just find a "coming soon" or you may even
find that most of the music you're looking for is not there ("Fantasmic"
for example, Disney/MGM's most popular attraction has a soundtrack on a
separate cd sold in the parks, but is not present in this machine).
Most of them are ambient music for the attractions, some other contain bits
of famous disney movies soundtracks (like "Remember the magic" which is a
medley used in the Magic Kingdom parade).
Btw, curiously you still have music to attractions that have closed (!) or
changed. For example in Epcot you have various tracks of "Horizons" music,
and -hey!- in Magic Kingdom there are the original tiki room song, plus a
"Tropical serenade - Offenbach" apparently coming from the same attraction
(birds whistling Offenbach).
You also have some spoken tracks, like the ones that welcome you on the
Monorail trains (and in the above mentioned parade music there are also the
spoken bits) and in the end some of the most recent stuff like "Tree of
life area music" i.e. music made in 1998 as a sonorization of the Tree of
Life (huge resin tree with 325 animals engraved on its "wood"). These
tracks are sort of moody african instrumentals with music and percussions,
plus some choruses/vocal bits.
I was wondering if anyone here has ever bought a similar cd and if someone
has a complete list of the music and/or wants to trde mp3s (i've noticed
that you can only choose 10 tracks so even if I tried to include some
longer pieces, the cd was half-empty, but with 2 or 3 more of these cds one
could have the whole content of the machine).
It wasn't exactly cheap (more than $21 including taxes) and I tried to
include music I don't think I already have on commercial Disney cds.

This is my tracklist - usually you have attraction name followed by title.
Not all the tracks have full credits. Some of them just say (c) Disney,
some other have writers and year of publication. The year seems reffered to
the publishing copyright, not the recording (p), as track two seems too
clean and also has no words, so from the liner notes it is a new arrangment
of a 1946 "Pecos Billl" song; same for the "Hunted mansion" bit; in the
other tracks I' think year of publication and of recording should be the
same, IMHO).

1. Walt Disney World Monorail - "Jack Wagner Spiel 1972" #1 (note: of
course there is also a #2 :) and for various other attractions you have
music split in 2, or more parts)

2. Big Thunder Mountain - "Pecos Bill"
W - Johnny Lange  -  M - Eliot Daniel (c) 1946 Walt Disney Music Company
(ASCAP)

3. Mickey's Toontown Fair Area Music - "The country cousin"
(c) Disney

4. Magic Kingdom Parade - "Remember the magic" 1 of 2
(Antelis/Berman/Pack) (c) 1996 Wonderland Music (BMI)

5. Haunted Mansion - "Grim grinning ghost" Foyer Music
W - Xavier Atencio  -  M - Norman Buddy Baker (c) 1969 Walt Disney Music
Company (ASCAP)

6. Tropical Serenade - Offenbach
(c) Disney

7. World Showcase Lagoon - "Illuminations 25" 2 of 4
Mascleta/International Fantasy (smith) (c) 1997 Walt Disney Music Company
(ASCAP)

8. Tree of Life Area Music - "Tree of Life One"
(Eastman) (c) 1998 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP)

9. Tree of Life Area Music - "Spring"
(Eastman) (c) 1998 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP)

10. Tree of Life Area Music - "Celebration"
(Eastman) (c) 1998 Walt Disney Music Company (ASCAP)

on more Disney music things... sorry for the stupoid question but in the
Main Street Electrical Parade apparently the main music is played from the
speakers placed on both sides of the street, while more music comes
illuminated stuff that is walking in the middle of the road... and it is
perfectly synchronized.
How do they do that?
Is it the same kind of technique used in attractions like "It's a small
world" in which each audio-animatronic plays some sound that contributes to
the soundtrack, or is it just some trick with stereophonics (say, panning,
surround, placing sounds in a way that your ear believes they come from
some other point...)


*phew*
:)

later,
Nicola/Dj Batman
bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music
Date: 20 Mar 2000 15:13:39 -0800


>on more Disney music things... sorry for the stupoid question but in the
>Main Street Electrical Parade apparently the main music is played from the
>speakers placed on both sides of the street, while more music comes
>illuminated stuff that is walking in the middle of the road... and it is
>perfectly synchronized.
>How do they do that?

I was always told that the music for special parades like the original
Main Street Electrical Parade (which also is no more) is actually
'broadcast' (from some park location) to the particular float that is
passing you by at the moment.  It's definitely not a case of the floats
just piping out music being played from inside each float....

--bj


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music
Date: 20 Mar 2000 18:13:33 EST


Speaking of Disney Music...

I picked up the That Darn Cat soundtrack not long ago and it was a real nice
surprise.

A combination of jazz, bongos, surf / beach party, a couple of Mancini-esque
numbers and Louis Prima singing the title tune with a cat meowing in the
background.

Not sure about CD availability on this one...



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind, vol. 6
Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:27:26 +0000


It's finally out.

Just received the new Crypt catalogue and it lists it as "the latest
installment o' twisted twisters, ground-out grinders, bent exotica as
performed by moonlighting carpet salesmen from Jersey City, swingin'
r&b go-go bouncers, smokey lounge breathers, etc. etc.".
(Tim Warren dixit, he's the Jack Diamond of 60's garage punk).

Tracks:
- Ray Gee & His Orchestra: The Slouch
- Bowlegs: One More Time - part 2
- Poor Boys: Washboard - take 1
- Johnny Little John & Guitar: Johnny's Jive
- Tommy Smith Jr. Trio: Cold Slaw
- Sam & The Saxtones: Kaput
- El Capris: Safari
- Omar Kay: Turkish Coffee
- Lord Sundance: Pretty Lord Sundance - part 1
- Big Bo Thomas & The Arrows: How About It - part 1
- Garnell Cooper & The Kinfolks: Long Distance
- Freddy Scott & The 4 Steps: Same Ole Beat
- Willie Weems & The Outlaws: Snuff Time
- Chaz & 2: Soupbone
- George Kelly & Orchestra: Ain't That Good
- Lonnie Brooks: The Train Kinfolks: Mustang
- Jaguars: Jaguar
- Towers: The Sneak

Out on Lp and CD.

I think the LVG sequel is the quintessential collection of
lounge'n'roll.
Go buy!

Ciao
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Another Program on the Web....
Date: 20 Mar 2000 18:37:51 -0500




Hello Exoticats,

With so many excellent places to get streaming lounge/exotica on the net
these days, and 24/7 or on demand, I hope you find the time to pop in and
have some "Martinis with Mancini".

My little program airs every Friday from 6-9AM Eastern Standard
Time(Boston-NY time zone). From UMASS Lowell.

Go here http://www.cs.uml.edu/misc/wjul/wjul.html for the RealAudio.

We just got on line. Barely, because only 25 people can get in at a time.
Talk about a small room. And at only 11khz. In order to prove we need more
bandwidth and better equipment we have to show the college that we are
getting some "hits". We are also going to be a soliciting the alumni and
high-tech companies around here for some donations and equipment.

More than ever, your comments will be appreciated. I?ll forward them to the
General Manager and they help build a case for a bigger net presence!

Thanks,
Domenic
http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Booth/8007/




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) "Essential Perrey/Kingsley" CD for 99 cents from Columbia House
Date: 20 Mar 2000 18:51:16 EST


Just what it says. No other purchase required (you do have to be a member,
though). What a steal.

--Rod
www.hitchmagazine.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The House Of Bamboo Presents
Date: 21 Mar 2000 01:19:21 +0000


Is anyone familiar with this compilation?
It has been put out in 1997 by Virgin (cd and 2lp's) and I've been
searching it ever since but no way could I track it down. A web
search left me clueless. I wonder if it contains some exotica or it's
just a suggestive title. I'm dubious, because it is subtitled
something like "dance & mood". It is introduced by some Jack Arel, a
name that is of no help to me.
Johan? Anyone?

Grazie
Ciao
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music
Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:08:46 EST


In a message dated 3/20/00 6:05:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< For example in Epcot you have various tracks of "Horizons" music,
 and -hey!- in Magic Kingdom there are the original tiki room song, plus a
 "Tropical serenade - Offenbach" apparently coming from the same attraction
 (birds whistling Offenbach). >>

there are only a couple of the original Tiki Room tracks currently at the
Disneyland/World Forever Kiosks.  At one time all of the tracks were
available but they changed that about 2 years ago.  This applies to both
Disneyland and WDW.

Tiki Bob


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New jazz discography online...
Date: 20 Mar 2000 19:10:02 -0800


Because there are many on this list who enjoy jazz and people who play
jazz, I am announcing a new website dedicated to an outstanding jazz
sideman.

Bobby Rosengarden has been one of the busiest studio musicians and jazz
players in the U.S.  His career is currently in its seventieth decade and
in addition to making records with Benny Goodman, Walter Wanderley,
Antonio Carlos Jobim, Milt Hinton, Miles Davis, and other greats, he did
several decades' worth of work as a drummer and percussionist for both
the NBC and ABC television networks.  The bulk of recordings Bobby has
played on fall in the jazz category, but you will see that he also has
contributed to Polish and Brazilian recordings; that he is no stranger to
work performed for the Broadway stage, and that he's even contributed to
the realm of exotica with some early 'percussion only' albums in the
mid-1950s.

I invite you to visit the site and celebrate what will be Bobby's 76th
birthday on April 23, 2000!

--bj
Tribute to Bobby Rosengarden:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Rosengarden/bobby.html
http://bjbear2.freeservers.com/Rosengarden/bobby.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music
Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:13:12 EST


In a message dated 3/20/00 6:15:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I was always told that the music for special parades like the original
 Main Street Electrical Parade (which also is no more) is actually
 'broadcast' (from some park location) to the particular float that is
 passing you by at the moment.  It's definitely not a case of the floats
 just piping out music being played from inside each float.... >>

I respectifully say it is both.  Certain floats, especially the Main Street
Electrical Parade ones, usually had their own "version" of the Baroque
Hoedown.  That float's music was in "sync" with the music playing from the
speakers beside the parades pathway, but was distinctively different.

The original Main Street Electrical Parade returned to WDW after about a 10
year hiatus.

Tiki Bob


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The House Of Bamboo Presents
Date: 20 Mar 2000 23:29:32 EST


In a message dated 3/20/00 7:14:04 PM EST, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Is anyone familiar with this compilation?
 It has been put out in 1997 by Virgin (cd and 2lp's) and I've been
 searching it ever since but no way could I track it down. A web
 search left me clueless. I wonder if it contains some exotica or it's
 just a suggestive title. I'm dubious, because it is subtitled
 something like "dance & mood". It is introduced by some Jack Arel, a
 name that is of no help to me.
 Johan? Anyone? >>


This is a pretty cool album of what is essentially production library music
recorded in the '70s so it has more of a groovy, sideburned hippness to it
rather than being exotic. It os pretty decent but not amazing. I wouldn't
lose sleep over it.

Ashley


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind, vol. 6
Date: 20 Mar 2000 23:41:36 -0500


I picked this up last week, and it is every bit as good as the first
three CDs in the series.  I have to agree with Gionni on this - go
buy!!!

Giovanni Berti wrote:
>
> It's finally out.

> I think the LVG sequel is the quintessential collection of
> lounge'n'roll.
> Go buy!


ciao,

cheryl


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Kenyon Hopkins and ebay
Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:06:56 -0500


At 06:03 PM 3/18/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:

>Yes, Nat, you'd dig it.  I think a couple of easier titles are up right
now.
>Mister Budwing and Yellow Canary.  Eleven Against The Ice is in there too.
 I
>picked up The Fugitive Kind there not long ago.  The Hustler is the ONE!!

I'm sure the Hustler IS the one but "Eleven Against the Ice" is NOT the
one.  I had it.  Don't bother.  Really!  I love Kenyon and I sold it.  That
should be proof of something.
>
><<I've resisted it so far.>>
>
>You really shouldn't.  Then again, The less competition, the better.  :)
>Seriously, this is a powerful resource for finding stuff, selling too.
Check
>it out.

Okay I will.  I am trying to make the switch from quantity to quality.
Maybe this will help.

Nebay



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Skiffle is...
Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:36:02 -0000


This is a good example of how there are no fast categories,  Skiffle
obviously changes across Europe.  In the UK,  Mo's description would be of
'Trad' or 'Dixie' Jazz a quite distinct scene, I would have said from the
Skiffle thing.  Acker Bilk and Chris Barber being fine examples of the
bowlers and bowties of Trad.  Whereas skiffle was definitely a folk
offshoot.  Although from the review Lou posted Chris Barber could put a foot
into both camps.

The difference between the two is best shown by listening,  In trad everyone
is playing as many notes as they can,  and in skiffle they would be
desperately holding on to the one chord before a finger slipped and it all
went muffled.  Punk Rock indeed.


Moritz wrote:
> In my guess, Skiffle is the European equivalent of
> Dixieland Jazz. To my father's generation, when they were young, it was a
very
> popular and successful music style to do yourself.

<snip>
 Still I think I understand much better
from Moritz's description what Skiffle was.
Not really.

El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/








# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: The Millionaire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bollywood Babylon
Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:23:14 -0800


At last! I can post again!

Just wanted to let you hardcore fans of uncut Exotica know that on Thursday
nights, 6-8 PM, pacific standard time, LuxuriaMusic presents "The Indian
Soundtrack Show That Doesn't Have A Name Yet" with your hosts,Eric Bonerz
and Me, The Millionaire. All the wildest tracks from Khalyanji Anandji,
R.D.Burman, Naushad, Laxmikant Pyarelal and more, featuring the golden
voices of Asha Bhosle, Kishore Kumar, Lata Mangeshkar and other great
playback singers from the Golden Age of Filmi!

Plus: If you come up with a name for the show that we love, and end up
using, you will win exciting prizes!

--The Mil.
LuxuriaMusic
1424 Lincoln Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90401
www.luxuriamusic.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: The Millionaire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 20 Mar 2000 12:28:49 -0800




I've recently become slightly obsessed with the mod/lounge/hammond stylings
of the Peddlers.If anybody on the list has any info that they could share
with me concerning this enigmatic combo, please let me know.(Other than
Ashley and Cleve...I already pumped you guys for info).Private email is
best, beacuse I don't get to check out the digest as often as I'd like.

BTW, with the recent discussion of the Hellers on the list, I wonder if
anybody mentioned that a member of the group was none other than MacLean
"Hello Larry" Stevenson?!

Thanks...

The Millionaire


LuxuriaMusic
1424 Lincoln Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90401
www.luxuriamusic.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Back on the list & Disney music
Date: 20 Mar 2000 22:57:26 -0800


I myself just visited Disneyland this week (Tiki Room lives!) and got
myself one of their made-to-order CDs.

Highly Recommended:
Enchanted Tiki Room "Tiki Garden" (the intros by all the Tiki Gods)
Pirates the Caribbean Full Show (4 parts)
Pirates the Caribbean "Yo Ho Ho" Pirates Lair
Pirates the Caribbean "Yo Ho Ho" End Overture
Jungle Cruise "Jungle Songs" (moody sounds, tribal drums, etc)

Not so recommended:
Enchanted Tiki Room "Barker Bird" (no music, just a bad 60's mexican accent)
South Seas Traders "Shrunken Head Ned" (again no music, though at least
kind of funny)

-Kevin Crossman

--
***********************************************************
*     Kevin Crossman           [e-mail]            *
*   http://www.kevdo.com  - The Narrow Interest Portal    *
*  Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive  *
***********************************************************


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) this Thursday in SF
Date: 21 Mar 2000 00:12:41 -0800


Get Ready to Go!-Go! in the Snow!  It'a ACTION in the Alps as the whole
Beach Party gang have themselves a...

              WILD WILD WINTER!

See:  Rare Annette and Frankie Ski Party movies, including a fireside
freakout by a Cardigan wearing James Brown!

Hear: Wild Teen Surf Stompers THE AQUAMEN and DRIFTING SNOW shred the slopes

with a wailing pound of sound!

Taste:  The fiery flaming food at the fearless fondue bar--while it lasts!

Drink: The Tropical Temptations of Bartender Bob and his Rum Runners of Bora

Bora--while YOU last!

Thursday March 23rd, 9-Midnite, Tempest bar and Ski Lodge, 431 Natoma St.,
SF, 495-1863, $5--All proceeds Benefit Mission YMCA's Spring Break Teen
Program!



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:13:20 +0100



>I've recently become slightly obsessed with the mod/lounge/hammond stylings
>of the Peddlers.If anybody on the list has any info that they could share
>with me concerning this enigmatic combo, please let me know.(Other than
>Ashley and Cleve...I already pumped you guys for info).
>The Millionaire



From 'The best of The Peddlers', a newspaper collage:

        May 20th '67 Miami

          Elaine Perkins

                *    *    *

Speaking of the Eden Roc, caught The Peddlers
in Harry's American Showroom this weekend and
if ever there was a case of appearances being
deceiving, this is it! They walk out on a stage
cool as ice, in unassuming turtleneck sweaters
and slacks looking like jazz hippies from New
Orleans, don't let it fool you, they're hot
stuff. They could be the hottest English import
since The Beatles.



 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the sound burger
Date: 21 Mar 2000 09:43:11 -0500


I know a few of us on the list was around a while back when we spoke =
about
the sound burger.  I have the Audio technica Mister disc, which is =
nearly
identical. =20

Who knows how to adjust the turntable speed?  It is too fast.  Somebody =
said
ther is a screw, but I cant seem to find it. =20

Help!

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=
=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the sound burger
Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:11:01 +0000


Two of the screws underneath the unit do the adjustment. One for 45 and one
for 33. The two screws are very delicate. Don't force up with the
screwdriver (which should be small and pointy). You can tell the holes
because there are two close to each other, about a half inch apart. I don't
have one with me but you should be able to locate them (possibly under the
turntable motor area). The screws inside are pots, which are recessed about
half an inch. Place the unit on the table, with the holes overhanging, play
a record and then get under it with that screwdriver. Be gentle!


Charlie

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Show/3183/index.html





+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Emil Richards: "Stones" lp
Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:30:11 GMT



Anyone have "Stones" by Emil Richards? Is it worth paying big $$ for?
What is it similar too?

Anyone know if it has been re-released, legitimately or otherwise?

any help here appreciated.
thanks
jbrouwer


______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Les Baxter Music in Commercial..
Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:25:07 -0500



Did anybody catch that "nice pants" commercial. No talking, just Les
Baxter's music....Have to listen to those UL's to get the right track.  But
somebaody here might already know it.

It seems like all the music in commercials are exotic/lounge or latino
based....




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) the sound burger
Date: 21 Mar 2000 10:51:49 -0500


excellent!!!  it worked.   Now all I need is to find a replacement stylus...


> Two of the screws underneath the unit do the adjustment.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Secret Museum BIG NEWS!
Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:29:48 -0500


Friends at Exotica,

Special note... May 30th... THE    ROOTS OF EXOTICA!

Here is the Spring 2000 Secret Museum of the Air schedule, and a preview
peek at our new website.
THE LISTENING ROOM IS OPEN!:

http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html


so you can spend a few hours hearing excerpts from the Secret Museum
whenever you are on the web!

Here is our press release and details of the spring schedule:

http://www.megasaver.com/sma/smaradio.html#press


and in text:

3/21    Irish
3/28    World Fiddle Convention
4/4     African Guitars
4/11    West Africa
4/18    Southern Africa
4/25    Roots of Afro-Pop
5/2     78s in the 1960s
5/9     Orchestral... Looking Back
5/16    Music of the Future
5/23    The Roots of Uncle Dave
5/30    The Roots of Exotica

Thanks. Any questions? email or call 718 488-7207.

Take care and enjoy-

Citizen Kafka

*   *   *   *   *   *

Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html
Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air"
every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
& WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM
http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu'


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Lou Smith" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [hype] Cool & Strange #16
Date: 21 Mar 2000 12:31:26 -0500


Here's the latest bit of promo, from Dana Countryman (publisher of C&S).

-Lou
[e-mail]
==================================

OUR NEWEST ISSUE OF 56 PAGES OF MUSICAL COOLNESS IS OUT!
WITH 8 PAGES OF BLAZING COLOR, IT'S ANOTHER BANG-UP ISSUE!

Our newest issue is packed with new, informative articles on the coolest
and
strangest music you never thought you'd hear about, and features a cool
4-color
cover, lots of high-quality photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD
reviews and
it's more fun than a trip with the entire Little League kids to the
local Pizza
Hut!


The new issue features:

SPIKE JONES
    We've wanted to do this one for quite some time. SPIKE JONES was a
real
trendsetter. He paved the way for virtually all comedy records of the
musical
type for decades to come! Writer Ted Hering became a trusted friend of
the
Spike Jones family, upon his sudden death in the '60s. He became the
unofficial
curator of the Jones memorabilia, and has become the foremost authority
on the
wacky, comedic musician.
    This article also includes an in-depth interview with DEL PORTER,
one of
Jones' right-hand men in his early hit-making years for RCA. You'll only
find
it in this issue of Cool And Strange Music Magazine!

 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

BERT KAEMPFERT
    Sometimes dismissed as merely a muzak-making orchestra leader, (he
wrote
"Strangers in the Night", among other '60s standards,) BERT KAEMPFERT
was also
a strong element in that decade's Space Age Pop movement. His early '60s
albums
incorporated maddingly inventive hooks and bright and breezy original
tunes.
    You may have passed his albums by, like many, but read writer Frank
Young's
informative article before you make another trip to the used record
store! You
may discover gold among the musty old vinyl!

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

JUAN ESQUIVEL INTERVIEW
What more can we say about ESQUIVEL that hasn't been said before? He is
undoubtably the King of Space Age Pop. With his wild, totally amazing
arrangments and unique originals, Juan Garcia Esquivel took the limits
of
stereo separation, and unusual instrumentation and pushed them to a new
maximum.
    We're fortunate to feature an exclusive interview with the King, and
writer
Ken Saari shares his recent conversation with our readers. Mostly, we
wanted to
find out more about his recent wondrous CD release: SEE IT IN SOUND. A
recording that languished in RCA's underground vaults for more than 40
years,
it was forgotten by all, including Esquivel himself!
Find out more by checking out our interview with him in this issue.


VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA RECORD STORE REPORT
    What makes Victoria, B.C. a great place to find great vinyl? Simply
the
fact that many people end up retiring to the sleepy tourist town, and
end up
getting rid of most of a lifetime's accumulations including their old
records!
    This is good news if you happen to visit Victoria, because some
great old
vinyl can be purchased at this city's many stores for a fairly
reasonable
price. Writer Brian Linds takes us on a guided tour of his hometown,
with many
fun stops along the way.


WENDY MAE CHAMBERS
    What makes WENDY MAE CHAMBERS so cool and strange? Well, it's gotta
be the
fact that her musical instrument of choice is a homemade organ made of
old car
horns, each tuned to a different note of the scale! She's been featured
in
books and commercials using the odd-looking instrument, and writer Ed
Kaz took
time to sit down and chat with her.
    We think you'll enjoy reading all about this eccentric artist, as
much as
we did presenting it to you!


POLKA LP COVERS CENTERFOLD
    This issue we feature Polka record collector DON HEDEKER's Polka
records in
our color centerfold, and we think you'll get a real kick out of them.
There
are some real doozies here, but our favorite has go to be "Polka
Encounters of
the the Honkey Kind" by The Trel-Tones!!
    There's lots more where that came from, and we present some of the
wackier
ones in our two-page color spread.


ROBERT DRASNIN INTERVIEW
    Mostly known for just one hard-to-find exotica LP, "Voodoo!", Robert

Drasnin has been recently discovered and is revered as a true talent of
the
exotica collecting circles. With his unorthodox combinations of
instruments
(lots of jungle percussion, but dominated by harp and flute!), Drasnin
has been
re-discovered by a new generation of music lovers.
    Largely forgotten until Dionysus records' CD re-release of the
recording,
Drasnin's music has reached a bigger and definitely more appreciative
audience
than when his obscure budget record was originally released in the '50s!

    We wanted to find out more about this brilliant musician, and Jeff
Chenault
did the honors, interviewing him for our magazine. A great companion
piece to
the CD, (or if you're lucky enough, the original LP)!


SCREAMING LORD SUTCH
    Although he was much more well-known in his native Britain than in
the USA,
SCREAMING LORD SUTCH was a highly influential musical influence on young

rockers such as Jimmy Page, Ritchie Blackmore, Jeff Beck and many others
who
eventually became rock music legends.
    Sutch's campy, creepy stage personna often overshadowed the music he
made,
with his undertakers coat and fake, rotting teeth-but you can't say he
wasn't a
showman. A definite "character", Sutch is a fascinating guy, and Matt
Marchese
does a great job of re-telling the highlights of this British wildman's
career!



 HIGH SCHOOL BAND RECORDS
    Think you're the only one with a fascination for thrift store vanity
of
HIGH SCHOOL BAND records? Think again, as writer Susie the Floozie
describes
why many of these discs are great, and highlights a few from her own
personal
collection. Susie goes as far as to track down the former band director
from
one of her prized High School band records, and interviews him for this
article!
    Since this article has come out, it's spurred on extensive interest
in
these records by internet newsgroup discussion panels, and it just might
get
you checking out those passed-by records in your local thrift shop, too!


Tie it all together with lots more loads o' fun stuff than we dare
mention, and
you'll find a very cool Issue #16 of So get on board! It's gonna be a
cool ride
through the wild, wacky and sometimes tacky world of records!


COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE is available at most Borders Books,
Tower
Records and Tower Books stores, and we are also in hundreds of
newsstands and
independent bookstores around the U.S., so take a look! If you have
trouble
locating COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC! MAGAZINE locally, you can order issues
by
mail: MOST OF OUR BACK ISSUES ARE SOLD OUT, except Issues #7-#16. Even
those
are only available in limited quantities, so hurry! Our earlier issues
won't be
reprinted, either, sorry to say.

Residents of the USA, Mexico and Canada can purchase current SINGLE
issues of
Issue #14 for $3.95 + $1 postage. Residents of other countries can
purchase
current SINGLE issues of Issue #14 for $3.95 + $3 postage. Back issues
are $5 +
$1 postage in the continental United States, and $5 + $2 postage for
overseas
orders. (Only U. S. funds are accepted.Canadian checks must be drawn on
an
American bank for acceptance.)


To subscribe (4 quarterly issues), USA residents please send $14 for
bulk-mailed issues in the United States, and $18 for First Class
subscriptions
in the U.S.A. Canadian/Mexican subscriptions are $18 a year. All other
countries are $25 a year. (U.S. funds only.) Sorry, no credit card
payments are
accepted at this time.


Send your Check, Cash or Money Order to:

Cool And Strange Music! Magazine
1101 Colby Ave.
Everett, WA USA 98201


- Dana Countryman
Publisher/Editor

E-mail: [e-mail]
www.coolandstrange.com
...or just click here -->Cool And Strange Music! Magazine

If you're interested in reading a recent article about Cool And Strange
Music!
Magazine that came out in Seattle's Rocket Magazine, go to
http://members.aol.com/coolstrge/Rocket.html
...or click here  --> Rocket Article 12/15/99


Tune into our new Internet Radio Program:
"Cool And Strange Music! Magazine presents *Friendly Persuasion* with
Mr. Otis
F. Odder" ! You won't believe your ears!
Go to: <http://nimenet.com/fodder/fp/index.html>
or just click on:  --> the FRIENDLY PERSUASION radio show on AIR

ALSO-- Check out our web page for several new improvements, including
online
reviews, and online CD purchasing for select discs!!



"Dedicated to Unusual Music since 1996"

"There are none so blind as...Helen Keller."




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:33:44 -0600


> I've recently become slightly obsessed with the mod/lounge/hammond
> stylings of the Peddlers.If anybody on the list has any info that they
> could share with me concerning this enigmatic combo, please let me
> know.

My memory is a little hazy on this, but I seem to remember the
Peddlers do the title song from "The Lost Continent", a wonderfully
cheesy Hammer horror film from '68.  The film's about shipwreck
survivors in the Sargasso Sea, sort of The Love Boat on acid.  The
title tune's a vocal--did the Peddlers sing, too?  I could be wrong,
but I remember clearly the loungey mod-hammond sound of the
theme song.  No soundtrack issue of which I'm aware, but the
movie is on video.


Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html
Listen to The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro/retrolisten.htm


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bert Kaempfeart
Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:38:29 +0000


Strangely enough (and it is is a little strange), I live below Bert
Kaempfeart (am I spelling that right?)'s current publicist.

Oh, how interesting!



Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Les Humphries Singers
Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:24:05 +0100


    hey, where did you download them from, Peter?

    i only have 1 Les LP, and it's not even by the "Singers", but by
Leslie Humphries And His Friends: "Pop Party" (LP, Karussell, Germany, late
60's or early 70's). about this LP: it's really great, "now" kinda sound,
rockin' vibes, groovy is the word!

        Johan

        -----



Peter Risser wrote:

> I have these mp3s that I downloaded that are totally
> over the top Montenegro-style now-sound choral pieces.
>  All Christmas tunes.  Totally enthusiastic.
> Also, a bizarre quasi-hispanic take on First Noel.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Return of Me
Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:31:04 -0800


Hi Kids,

I used to be on the list years ago and and as the focus changed, I sort of
drifted away. Anyway I'm back to say hello. I realized one of the things
this list is really valuable for is learning about new pop that is
worthwhile. It dawned on me that I've purchased ZERO new stuff since leaving
the list. It might be the pop today has slipped even further from my tastes.

If you don't know or remember me, I'd like to re-introduce myself. After
years doing jazzy-lounge radio in Italy (I'm a yank), i started producing
MisterLUCKY, first as a zine and now as website (since 1995!). I hate the
name and if there were just some way to turn back time....

My finest moment was when Salon mag suggested that I was one of the
corporate swills that was ruining Lounge. This made me laugh sincxe I do
everything from the writing to the graphics to the HTML all by myself.

Anyway it's nice to be back.

Steve Sando

P.s. I am an expert on the Italian diva mina and have virtually everything
she ever recorded. This fact might come in handy in the future.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Almost forgot
Date: 21 Mar 2000 11:33:33 -0800


This month 7N records is holding a contest to win the new Esquivel, See It
In Sound. 5 copies will be won from a random drawing.

http://www.mrlucky.com

If you nose around the site and like it, be sure to sign up for the
occasional email for updating the site as I don't feel comfortable pushing
the site on this list unless it's really 100% specific.






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) exotic guitars
Date: 21 Mar 2000 15:33:47 -0500


Any comments on Ranwood Records' Exotic Guitars?
I noticed today that they have a new 20 track (in 49 minutes! - you do
the math) compilation, called Sonic Lounge.

Can anyone shed light on who is in this band, and if it's worth wasting
a few dollars on it?

-Lou
[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic guitars
Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:28:50 -0800 (PST)


The line up included guitarist, Al Casey - I believe
the same who backed Duane Eddy in the Rebels and
cashed in on the "Surfin'" thing with "Surfin
Hootenanny."

My personal feeling is when the lps show up in the
bins for $1 a piece, then they're worth it. Fun, but
not overly interesting (I do enjoy their cover of
Music to Watch Girls By).

--- [e-mail] wrote:

> Any comments on Ranwood Records' Exotic Guitars?
...
> Can anyone shed light on who is in this band, and if
> it's worth wasting
 a few dollars on it?


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fwd: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music
Date: 21 Mar 2000 13:41:56 PST


Ton kindly returned this to me as he felt people might want to know the
publishing details of this wonderful book. excuse personal musings.
read and enjoy
rob

>From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
>To: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Monkey Music
>Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 19:21:18 +0100
>
>
> >anyway, i didn't save it and i always feel stupid rewriting.
>
>Ton wrote
>
> >Probably the vodkanovel par excellence is Venedikt Erofeev's
> >Moskva-Petuski,
> >
>what a marvellous novel. absolute lugubrious, melancholy, ecstatic,
>hallucinatory genius. published in english as 'moscow stations' (earlier
>edition was 'moscow circle') by faber and faber in 1997 (isbn 0571192041)
> >passengers exchange recipes derived from such exotic ingredients as white
> >spirit, meths, shampoos and lotions,
>the beautiful 'tears of a communist youth girl'. apparantly you had to lock
>up your posh perfume when he was round the house.
>
>and indulge in philosophies about the
> >abysmal Russian epidemic of drunkennesss (not unlike Nat on collecting,
>now
> >that I think of it).
> >
> >
> > >The one occasion, however, when I was drunken under the
> > >table deep as hell like never before  -and never again - in my life,
>was
> >in
> > >Hungary.
> >
> >
> >I was never drunk under the table, at the very most drunk in bed or on
>the
> >toilet. Most amazing was drunk on a bike, my mind was crystalclear (white
> >magic in terms of Erofeev) and I just couldn't figure out why I hit the
> >wall
> >every ten meters. In hindsight it must have been that last shot of
>brandy.
>i just spent a whole weekend avoiding drunkeness. town was rotten with
>people over to drink for the holiday weekend. and the locals were trying to
>prove they could do better. we of course can't. irish people can't drink
>during the day, unlike the english for example, we just get locked at night
>with our mates and do a variety of regrettable things, which you pretend to
>regret...
>rob
>

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic guitars
Date: 21 Mar 2000 16:44:40 -0500 (EST)



 I picked up a Ranwood Guitars LP a while ago.  If what you're looking at
 is the same sort of thing, it may be worth a few bucks or so, but it's
 nothing super great.

 A bit like the Tommy Garret (sp?) 50 Guitars go _______ series of Lp's

 Maybe a tiny, small, notch above that. Slightly more rock
 influenced too.

 - bruce

 ++++++++++++++++++++

 Lenkei Design
    Graphic Design

 www.lenkeidesign.com

 ++++++++++++++++++++


> On Tue, 21 Mar 2000 [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >
> > Any comments on Ranwood Records' Exotic Guitars?
> > I noticed today that they have a new 20 track (in 49 minutes! - you do
> > the math) compilation, called Sonic Lounge.
> >
> > Can anyone shed light on who is in this band, and if it's worth wasting
> > a few dollars on it?
> >
> > -Lou
> > [e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE!
Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:07:07 +1100


Yep, kids and kidettes, it's up and running, freeserver permitting!  Please
go check it out, sign the guestbook and let us know how you like it and what
you'd like to see.  In the works is a reprint of an article that appeared in
Cool & Strange Music mag by Ferrante about the prepared-piano days, early
memorabilia, and lots more images.   But the bones of the site is up, and
I'd really love to get all you exoticats' feedback on it!

http:go.to/ferrante&teicher

Ciao,

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE!
Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:33:57 EST


In a message dated 3/21/00 5:16:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< http:go.to/ferrante&teicher >>
Keith,
I can't wait to see the F&T site, but this address is not working for me.
Anyone else having problems with this address?
Larry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER SITE Oops!
Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:27:23 +1100


Wrong url...here it is:

http://go.to/ferrante&teicher

Damn protocol fiddly stuff.  Sorry!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) exotic guitars
Date: 21 Mar 2000 17:48:38 EST



In a message dated 3/21/0 3:36:58 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Any comments on Ranwood Records

I think the label belonged to Lawrence Welk....Can I get a witness?  JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE!
Date: 21 Mar 2000 23:48:56 +0100




Keith E. Lo Bue wrote:

> Thanks, Mo1  I typed it wrong....
>
> http://go.to/ferrante&teicher
>
> >> http:go.to/ferrante&teicher
> >
> >This link brings noone nowhere, man...
> >
> >Mo
>

Actually I don't think, that an address like this can work at all. In my opinion
the '&' is an illegal character in addresses.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Les Baxter Music in Commercial..
Date: 21 Mar 2000 18:02:15 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:
>Did anybody catch that "nice pants" commercial. No talking, just Les
>Baxter's music....Have to listen to those UL's to get the right track.  But
>somebaody here might already know it.

Baxter!!!

Thank you Dom, that was driving me crazy. I pulled out six or seven
records tying to figure out who it was, but never even got close.

If I haven't completely polluted the memory by listening to other
things, I believe the track was "Tropicando" from _Que Mango!_

hope this helps someone else. . .

  --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) exotic guitars
Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:38:08 -0500


At 5:48 PM -0500 3/21/00, [e-mail] wrote:

>>Any comments on Ranwood Records
>
>I think the label belonged to Lawrence Welk....Can I get a witness?  JB

I think it was Dot's budget label (now there's a concept), but yeah it
seems to have only had Welk related artists on it

br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Ferrante & Teicher
Date: 21 Mar 2000 20:37:33 EST


In a message dated 3/21/00 5:41:07 PM US Eastern Standard Time, Keith E. Lo
Bue writes:

<< But the bones of the site is up, and
 I'd really love to get all you exoticats' feedback on it!

 http:go.to/ferrante&teicher >>

Good job, Keith!  You've filled a void in the WWW!

Sean


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Return of Me
Date: 21 Mar 2000 21:18:28 -0500


>I used to be on the list years ago and and as the focus changed, I sort of
>drifted away. Anyway I'm back to say hello.

Hello and welcome back!

>MisterLUCKY, first as a zine and now as website (since 1995!).
>http://www.mrlucky.com
>
>If you nose around the site and like it, be sure to sign up for the
>occasional email for updating the site as I don't feel comfortable pushing
>the site on this list unless it's really 100% specific.

Well, *I'll* gladly push it. MisterLucky is one of the classic websites of
this whatever-you-wanna-call-it scene. And still live and kicking to boot.
Accept MisterLUCKY into your life.


m.ace  [e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Grand-ia!
Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:29:23 +1100


>I have also been able to do some really cool trading, and wanted to
>encourage folks to check out Keith Lobue's list of records/recordings he has
>to trade...It's an INSANE amount of really neat stuff.  I just got his CDR
>of 78's - some of which are old self-made recordings ala Pea Hicks, but on
>wax. Keith did a phenominal job of recording these records off of vintage
>playback equipment using microphones rather than a modern phonograph thus
>preserving or mimicking the experience of hearing the recordings as they
>must have sounded "back in the day." Mezzzzmerizing! In return, he got 3
>recordio disks that I had in my collection including a recording of some
>lady singing "I don't care if I never (or is it ever) go to bed" I think the
>other two are recorded letters. He'll like them cuz he's strange like that.
>
>That is all...
>
>Ron

Hey, Ron...thanks for the plug!  My list is morphing and growing daily, so
check it out, y'all:

http://www.lobue-art.com/trade.html

The homemade records Ron sent me will the be the glittering centerpiece of a
new comp, down the road a bit, that is entirely made up of these 'snapshot'
homespun discs.  Thanks, Ron, for the satisfying trade, and I'd like to put
the call out to anyone else who can contribute old home-recorded discs for
this comp!!

Cheers,

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dick Dale April 15 in Pittsburgh
Date: 21 Mar 2000 19:53:24 -0800


Sat. April 15th, 7:30
Rosebud in Pittsburgh.
Tickets are $15
adv./ $17 door
the show is over 21

Cool local surf combo The hi-frequencies are
the only opening act

Not only do they include the son of
the drummer for the Arondies a Pittsburgh band from the early-mid 60's
but Bill is a contributor to the Tiki News!!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Les Baxter Music in Commercial..
Date: 21 Mar 2000 23:38:05 EST


In a message dated 3/21/00 10:36:52 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 Did anybody catch that "nice pants" commercial. No talking, just Les
 Baxter's music....Have to listen to those UL's to get the right track.  But
 somebaody here might already know it. >>


the track used in the Dockers "Nice Pants" commercial is not from the Ultra
Lounge series. It is from the '70s era Les Baxter album "Que Mango" available
on Scamp of course! (The track used is "Tropicando")

Ashley


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) This Sat in SF
Date: 21 Mar 2000 20:47:54 -0800


This Saturday I'll be DJing two sets before and after the band uptairs (main
floor/entrance) at a cool new club at the House of Sheilds. HoS is a cool
just-South-of-Market-nearly-Financial-District bar and this night is geared
toward the over thirty crowd with heavy dancing downstairs and cocktails
upstairs
below is the official email

Aloha
Otto

[e-mail]
www.tikinews.com

     This Saturday, March 25th Darren and Miss Kristi invite you to join
     them in their 3rd production of the Saturday Night Armory at the House
     of Shields.

     This installation is the biggest and most diverse event yet.
     The upstairs lounge will feature renowned lounge Dj and Tiki
     enthusiast Otto Von Stroheim and a live performance by the groove
     oriented band Laughing Stock @ 11pm. Laughing Stock has become highly
     popular on the undeground circuit for their bittersweet and groove
     driven pop-noir. Frontman and vocalist Alex Nehas is a master of the
     Chapman Stick, his soulful swoon is backed by the howl of a B3
     organist Eric Glick and mind blowing percussionist Mark Burnfield.


     Downstairs in the Wine Cellar The Armory will feature innovative
     visuals by the troup at download deli and a collection of Dj's
     spinning a wide array of dance music. Dj Joe Rice of Static fame
     (Fuse) headlines, while Centepide and newcomer DJ Charles will fill
     the bill.

     Please join us at The Saturday Night Armory on Saturday March 25th and
     help us make this a night to remember...


     The Saturday Night Armory @ the House of Shields

     39 new Montgomery in SF (between Market and Mission & 2nd and 3rd St
     9pm-2am
     $5 cover, free before 10pm
     (hey-someone has to pay the talent and rent the equipment)


     Put on a fancy outfit, grab a bunch of peppy friends and come out to
     play...shake your groove thing and you'll walk out singing!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:21:44 +0000


Darrell Brogdon wrote:
>
> > I've recently become slightly obsessed with the mod/lounge/hammond
> > stylings of the Peddlers.If anybody on the list has any info that they
> > could share with me concerning this enigmatic combo, please let me
> > know.
>
> My memory is a little hazy on this, but I seem to remember the
> Peddlers do the title song from "The Lost Continent", a wonderfully
> cheesy Hammer horror film from '68.  The film's about shipwreck
> survivors in the Sargasso Sea, sort of The Love Boat on acid.  The
> title tune's a vocal--did the Peddlers sing, too?  I could be wrong,

Yeah, most of their tracks are vocals as far as I know. And it's very
strange singing - that kind which sounds like it's on the wrong speed on
the turntable. Strangely appealing though, once you get past the initial
surprise.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER WEBSITE!
Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:54:39 +0100




Moritz R wrote:

> Keith E. Lo Bue wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Mo1  I typed it wrong....
> >
> > http://go.to/ferrante&teicher

Oh, I see, go.to is the domain name... this morning it opened, unlike yesterday
evening, but sloooow... I guess go.to must have a lot of subdomains.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:34:37 +0100



>My memory is a little hazy on this, but I seem to remember the
>Peddlers do the title song from "The Lost Continent", a wonderfully
>cheesy Hammer horror film from '68.  The film's about shipwreck
>survivors in the Sargasso Sea, sort of The Love Boat on acid.  The
>title tune's a vocal--did the Peddlers sing, too?  I could be wrong,
>but I remember clearly the loungey mod-hammond sound of the
>theme song.


Did the Peddler's sing? Only one of them, Roy Phillips, who also
played the Hammond and Fender E, and boy, as whatever wacky a
turntable he may have sounded like, could he sing.
Yes, they did The Lost Continent, I have it on the compilation
album The best of the Peddlers, 1971.
O, and there's a song on Peddlers Power (called Back-alley Jane
(...easy to get, Back-alley Jane, is at it again, can't get no
custom, ain't it a shame, Back-alley Jane, Queen of the lane,
make it heaven...). Any bells ringing?

Cheers, Ton


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:36:11 +0100


The Peddlers

Personnel:

     TAB MARTIN bs =20
     TREVOR MORAIS drms =20
     ROY PHILLIPS keyb'ds, gtr, vcls =20

ALBUMS:
(up to 1976)

   1. LIVE AT THE PICKWICK (Philips (S)BL 7768) 1967 SC -=20
   2. FREE WHEELERS (CBS (S)BPG 63183) 1967 27=20
   3. THREE IN A CELL (CBS 63411) 1968 -=20
   4. THE FANTASTIC PEDDLERS (Fontana SFL 13016) 1968 -=20
   5. BIRTHDAY (CBS 63682) 1970 16=7F=20
   6. THREE FOR ALL (Philips 6308 028) 1970 -=20
   7. GEORGIA ON MY MIND (Philips 6308 066) 1971 -=20
   8. SUITE LONDON (Philips 6308 102) 1972 - With The London Symphony
Orchestra.=20



Where does Power fit in? Must be 1971, not sure, though.=20



45s:
(up to 1976)

   1.Let The Sunshine In/True Girl (Philips BF 1375) 1964 50=20
   2.Whatever Happened To The Good Times/Song For The Blues (Philips BF
1404) 1965 -=20
   3.Over The Rainbow/You Must Be Having Me On (Philips BF 1455) 1965 -=20
   4.Adam's Apple/Anybody's Fool (Philips BF 1506) 1966 -=20
   5.I've Got To Hold On/Gassin' (Philips BF 1530) 1966 -=20
   6.What'll I Do/Delicious Lady (Philips BF 1557) 1967 -=20
   7.Irresistible You/Murry's Mood (CBS 2947) 1967 -=20
   8.You're The Reason I'm Living/Nine Miles High (CBS 3055) 1967 -=20
   9.Handel With Care/Horse's Collar (CBS 3333) 1968 -=20
  10.Comin' Home Baby/Empty Club Blues (CBS 3734) 1968 -=20
  11.That's Life/Wasting My Time (CBS 4045) 1969 -=20
  12.Birth/Steel Mill (CBS 4449) 1969 17=20
  13.Girlie/P.S. I Love You (CBS 4720) 1970 34=20
  14.Let Me Be Turned To Stone/True Girl (Philips 6006 6110) 1970 -=20
  15.Back Alley Girl/Nothing Sacred (Philips 6006 6223) 1972 -=20
  16.Is There Anyone Out There/Just A Thought Ago (EMI EMI 2106) 1974 -=20
  17.That Song Is Driving Me Crazy/Just A Thought Ago (EMI EMI 2231) 1974 -=
=20




Concocted from a few webpages:

The Peddlers were originally known as The Song Peddlers (Phillips and=20
Martin had earlier been with The Tornados and Morais had earlier drummed
with Rory Storm and The Hurricanes and Faron's Flamingoes), a folk group
from Manchester who after the single Rose Marie/I'm Not Afraid (1964)=20
dropped the "Song" from their name and went on to greater success as=20
The Peddlers. They developed as a promising jazz-flavoured R&B trio in=20
the mid-sixties, achieved some commercial success, too, enjoying three=20
minor UK hits (does anyone know what these were? - Ton). In their later=20
years they veered more towards the cabaret circuit. After they split up
Morais went on to play for Quantum Jump.=20


Cheers, Ton


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Any French/German listees?
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:00:15 +0000


Are there any French or German listees around who may be near a dance music
shop and fancy doing me a huge favour?

I'm looking for a current French release.

Please contact me off list.



Thanks


Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [ap] students face punishment by opera
Date: 22 Mar 2000 09:45:51 -0500


    WILLIMANTIC, Conn. (AP) -- Students committing minor infractions
at Eastern Connecticut State University now face punishment by
Puccini. A group of offenders next month will be force-fed a taste
of ``Tosca.''
    Kirk Peters, associate dean of student affairs, created a policy
that sends students to an opera or a symphony, rather than slap
them with citations or fines.
    Peters said Monday his colleagues initially questioned the
Alternative Restitution Program when it began in the fall.
    ``Now they are sold on it,'' Peters said. ``It's something the
(students) don't want to do, so I feel it is a penalty. But I feel
they are getting something out of it.''
    So far, about 50 students have been ordered to attend classical
music performances for minor offenses including violating a campus
ban on alcohol.
    Next month, Peters plans to bring the next batch of
troublemakers to see ``Tosca,'' Giacomo Puccini's tragic opera
about love and betrayal.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) News: Martin Denny gets residuals
Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:03:45 -0800


Just added this to the Exotica Archive home page too, but here is the
complete story for your convenience.

Capitol Records in L.A. contacted Martin Denny the other day and asked
him for the names of his musicians on the original version of "Exotica"
that came out in 1957. Seems one of the cuts from the album, "Love
Dance," was used in the Charles Schwab TV commercial at the Super Bowl,
and Marty and his boys have some residual money coming. This will be the
first time the other members of the group find out about it, but
congrats to his original lineup, Arthur Lyman, John Kramer, Augie Colon
and Harold Chang. Denny's not sure how much will be coming their way,
but considering it only cost them $850 total to cut the album, and it
sold in excess of 400,000 copies, it'll be a nice stack of found money
... That reminds me, I received my latest residual check for a role I
played in a "Hawaii Five-O" episode about 30 years ago. I'd like to not
think of it as indicative of my worth as an actor today, but it was for
69-cents! Ouch ...
--Dave Donnelly, Honolulu Star Bulletin, March 14, 2000

Exotica Archive: http://www.kevdo.com/exotica/

Kevin Crossman
--
***********************************************************
*     Kevin Crossman           [e-mail]            *
*   http://www.kevdo.com  - The Narrow Interest Portal    *
*  Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive  *
***********************************************************


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) News: Martin Denny gets residuals
Date: 22 Mar 2000 16:22:23 +0100




Kevin Crossman wrote:

>
> ... That reminds me, I received my latest residual check for a role I
> played in a "Hawaii Five-O" episode about 30 years ago. I'd like to not
> think of it as indicative of my worth as an actor today, but it was for
> 69-cents! Ouch ...
>

Ha ha. That's cheap. I played in an episode of "Derrick" 25 years ago and got
80.- DM, which was about 35$ at that time. BTW:  I had to play a record buyer
in a record shop; seemed to fit me like a glove.

Mo




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bert Kaempfeart
Date: 22 Mar 2000 07:28:24 -0800 (PST)


Great Charlie I think this is the first time Bert Kaempfeart's name has come up on
the list.  We don't often discuss easy listening with strings ala Bert.

Having acquired all these easy listening records and having read Lanza's excellent
"Elevator Music"  I find my tastes expanding once again, this time to include a
genre of music that is very much looked down upon.

Strings have their interesting moments as Nat once ponted out.

I am now the proud owner of 7 Mystic Moods albums and I am amazed at how much they
are a direct link between easy listening and new age.   Sounds of oceans, trains ,
 thunderstorms and conversation accompany their stunning  rearrangements of easy
listening and pop songs.

I was playing some Bert Kaempfert album the other night and it just set the mood
....

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

--- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Strangely enough (and it is is a little strange), I live below Bert
> Kaempfeart (am I spelling that right?)'s current publicist.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) News: Martin Denny gets residuals
Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:14:57 EST


In a message dated 03/22/00 10:04:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< .. That reminds me, I received my latest residual check for a role I
 played in a "Hawaii Five-O" episode about 30 years ago. I'd like to not
 think of it as indicative of my worth as an actor today, but it was for
 69-cents! Ouch ...
 --Dave Donnelly, Honolulu Star Bulletin, March 14, 2000  >>

no that is funny.  i think i would frame the check instead of cashing it!

tb


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) another OT but relevant article link
Date: 22 Mar 2000 11:22:28 -0500


A good, long article on abusive use of intellectual property law:

http://www.reasonmag.com/0003/fe.jw.copy.html



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) eBay - Esquivel / More Of Other Worlds Other Sounds
Date: 22 Mar 2000 08:53:36 +0000


Folks

If you were interested in this before at the moment this is presently=20
is at =A32.00!! You have been told!

Esquivel / More Of Other Worlds Other Sounds UK LP

One day left

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D283178153

Sem Sinatra


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:09:24 -0500


Tracks by The Peddlers show up on a number of bootleg breaks compilations.
Evidently their album with the London Symphony Orchestra commands a very
high price as it has some drum breaks sampled on some well known rap
records. Their grooviest track is their version of "On A Clear Day You Can
See Forever", from the "3 In A Cell" LP. It shows up on a bootleg called
'Strange Beats', as well as on a [legit] Irma compilation "Groovy Vol.2".
Also check out the Louise Vertigo/The Mighty Bop version of it on  "The
Sound Of The City : Paris" (Motor/Polygram) or the instrumental version on
"Hi-Fidelity Lounge" (Guidance), as well as the Louise Vertigo album
(Yellow), although I think that's out of print.

br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: The House Of Bamboo Presents
Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:47:10 +0100


    this is actually an album by Jack Arel:
    "Dance & Mood Music De Jack Arel
    (Avec Jean Claude Petit & Pierre Dutour,
    Compiled By The House Of Bamboo)"
    Double LP, Virgin 8 44025, UK, 1997

    Late 60's early 70's production music from Chappell. Funky swinging
EZ. One track ("Soft winds") sounds very close to Steely Dan going instro!
The fourth side contains his ambitious "Four seasons" suite, which is prog
EZ at its best, very symphonic, with elaborate arrangements, tempo and
instrumentation changes galore, really impressing!

The "eXotica Releases Overview":
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/disq/disq.htm

        Johan

        -----




At 20:16 -0700 2000/03/20, exotica-digest wrote:
>From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) The House Of Bamboo Presents
>
>Is anyone familiar with this compilation?
>It has been put out in 1997 by Virgin (cd and 2lp's) and I've been
>searching it ever since but no way could I track it down. A web
>search left me clueless. I wonder if it contains some exotica or it's
>just a suggestive title. I'm dubious, because it is subtitled
>something like "dance & mood". It is introduced by some Jack Arel, a
>name that is of no help to me.
>Johan? Anyone?
>
>Grazie
>Ciao
>Gionni





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject:  Re: (exotica) Les Baxter Music in Commercial..
Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:20:57 EST



In a message dated 3/21/0 11:40:22 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>It is from the '70s era Les Baxter album "Que Mango" available
>on Scamp of course! (The track used is "Tropicando")

Also used as the kickoff track on Thievery Corporation's DJ Mix CD from the
DJ Kicks series


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Favorite finds
Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:25:22 -0800 (PST)


The other day I found a copy of Learn to Play Bongos
with Mr Bongo. I expected it to be something along the
lines of Learn to Play Guitar with George Barnes -
occasionally fun, but not very, uhm, engaging. Well,
not so. In addition to the admonishing tone of the
narrator (whose voice reminds me of every voice-over
of every science or hygiene promo flick I ever saw in
the long, empty hours of my highschool tour) as he
intructs the listner that while
"dickey-dickey-dickey-dockey" might sound silly, it is
a very useful thing to say aloud when practing the
bongos. And the song by that title is great - as are
the instrumental versions of Liberty's rocker, Eddie
Cochran.

But my favorite finds in a long while are a couple of
lps of Rudy Rosa's. He was some sort of local Northern
VA guy with a Hammond/ARP synth hybrid and a heart
full of cheese. Both lps ("Computerized, Synthesized,
Organized" and "Love Story")were recorded before a
live and gin mollified audience at "Manny's Supper
Club" in Fairfax at the dawn of the 70s. LS priceless
for Rudy's gorgonzolic crooning of Jim Stafford's
Spiders and Snakes and the pectoral frutescense (rayon
shirt apparently buttonless to the sternum)of the
cover.

I've tried to hunt this guy down. One of the lps
mentions a Florida management base. There is an FL
realtor on the WWW by the name of Rudy Rosa. He
answered me after three months, "I am not he whom you
seek", or words to that effect. Sure, Mr Mojo Risin'.
Whatever you say.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:38:44 -0500


At 1:09 PM -0500 3/22/00, Br. Cleve wrote:

>Also check out the Louise Vertigo/The Mighty Bop version of it on  "The
>Sound Of The City : Paris" (Motor/Polygram) or the instrumental version on
>"Hi-Fidelity Lounge" (Guidance), as well as the Louise Vertigo album
>(Yellow), although I think that's out of print.

hey I wrote that wrong! Chris The French Kiss (aka The Mighty Bop/Bob
Sinclar) samples The Peddlers "On A Clear Day..."; the track is called "Oue
Est La Femme" and it's a beautiful, dreamy downtempo cut.

br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "The Back Ward" March 22, 2000
Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:48:52 GMT


"The Back Ward" can be heard Wednesday mornings at 10 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Also available in RealAudio
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/

Spider and The Fly - The Monacles, from "Mayhem and Psychosis Vol 1"

A2 - Cambodian Rocks, from "Love, Peace and Poetry Vol 3"

Ceyladd Beyta - Ceyleib People, from "Everything You Always Wanted To Know
About 60's Mind Expansive Punkadelic Garage Rock Instrumentals But Were
Afraid To Ask"

Electronic Insides of Dr. Krieg - Riders of the Mark, from "Mayhem and
Psychosis Vol 1"

Rescue - Stu Phillips, from "Run Angel Run" OST

Facade - Henry Mancini, from "Arabesque" OST

Nights of Sin - Juliette Leblanc, from "Nymphomania Vol. 1"

Angel's Theme - Stanley Myers, from "Kaleidoscope" OST

Girl Who Came in With The Tide - Lalo Schifrin, from "Mannix" OST

End Theme - Roy Budd, from "Marseille Contract" OST

Really Big Heist - Henry Mancini, from "Thief Who Came to Dinner" OST

Jungle Fever - Chakachas, from "Jungle Fever"

Aquarius - Vinnie Bell, from "Good Morning Starshine"

Space Kids - The Lost, from "Space Kids"

Barnyard in Orbit - Perrey and Kingsley, from "In Sound from Way Out!"

Chicca Chicca - Harry Corbett & Sweep, from "Around the World With Sooty"

Never Gonna Give You Up - Johnny Keating, from "John Keating Incorporated".

Rainy Day Mushroom Pillow - Strawberry Alarm Clock, from "Psych-Out" OST

Mama Keep Your Big Mouth Shut - Missing Links, from "Missing Links"

Fusion - Pinnochio and the Puppets, from "Everything You Always Wanted To
Know About 60's Mind Expansive Punkadelic Garage Rock Instrumentals But Were
Afraid To Ask"

H'toum Tuhs - Missing Links, from "Missing Links"

Esplanade - Fille qui Mousse, from "Fille Qui Mousse"
WITH:
Little Miss Echo - Raymond Scott, from "Soothing Sounds For Baby #3"
WITH:
Riversong - Tonto's Expanding Headband, from "Zero Time"
WITH:
Alligator Speech - John Hawksworth, from "The Penthouse" OST
WITH:
Starfruits and Coffee - Asao Kikuchi, from "Imaginary Landscapes"

Ride of Aida (Voodoo) - Mort Garson, from "Black Mass Lucifer"

Peking O - Can, from "Tago Mago"
WITH:
Drinking Song - People of the Ituri Forest recorded by Colin Turnbull, from
"Music of the Ituri Forest"
WITH:
For Harry - Kenneth Gaburo, from "Electronic Music from the University of
Illinois"
WITH:
It's Not The End or Is It? - Asao Kikuchi, from "Imaginary Landscapes"

Miccia - Godspeed You Black Emporer!, from "Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada"
EP
WITH:
Leonara Turner, Mom, Marge, and Paul - Recording Booth Record circa late
1940's, from "One of One: Recording Booth Recordings"
WITH:
Eyeless Sight (live) - Cabaret Voltaire, from "Mix-Up"

Take Me To The Other Side - Spacemen 3, from "The Perfect Prescription"

A Street Scene - Bark Psychosis, from "Hex"

all the best from Zero Kanada...
JBrouwer
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject:  Re: (exotica) Peddlers/Hellers
Date: 22 Mar 2000 13:50:53 EST


A track by The Peddlers also appears on the Breakbeat Brit LP "Beyond The
Valley Of The Ultrabeats" and its called "Under London Lights"...Good comp
btw...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dinah Washington
Date: 22 Mar 2000 10:56:45 -0800 (PST)


A friend has asked me to ask this question:

do you know anyone who would be interested in a
pre-production, hand-labelled
78rpm dinah washington record? 78rpm.  fair condition.
 has a hand-glued label that says Preproduction
Copy, Mercury records. In the artist line, is typed
Dinah Washington.  In
the song line are typed the (three?) song titles.  I
think what a difference
a day makes is one, but i can look at the thing
tonight and get the actuals.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [upi] teen sentenced to listen to Wayne Newton
Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:03:16 -0500


    DETROIT, March 22 (UPI) - Some teens might consider the
sentence cruel and unusual punishment.
    A Detroit teen Tuesday was sentenced to listen to the compact
disc, "Wayne Newton Greatest Hits," three times in a jury room at the
courthouse in Troy, Mich. Justin Rushford, 18, had been convicted of
blasting rap music from a truck radio. The truck happened to be next to
police car.
    The unusual sentence turned Rushford into a minor celebrity of
the 15-minute variety, attracting a horde of local media to the
courthouse to record the two-hour sentence.
    He appeared on CBS-TV's Early Show Wednesday morning.
    The sentence was imposed by District Judge Michael Martone,
who has handed down other noteworthy sentences, including making drunken
drivers watch autopsies.
    "This young man shouldn't beimposing his music on others,"
Martone told the Detroit Free Press. Rushford could have been sentenced
to 90 days in jail and up to $1,000 in fines for violating the town's
noise pollution ordinance.
    Martone said he "meant no disrespect" by choosing the music of
Las Vegas legend, crooner Wayne Newton - whose best known hit "Danke
Schoen" was recorded in 1963. Other selections included on the CD are
"Red Roses for a Blue Lady," "Daddy, Don't You Walk So Fast," "I'll Be
With You in Apple Blossom Time," "More" and "Hello, Dolly!"
    Rushford was apologetic after two hours of listening to
Newton.
    "It makes me think about other people's styles of music," he
told the Free Press. "I probably wouldn't appreciate it if some old man
drove past me blasting this music."

--
Copyright 2000 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.
--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ranwood/Welk
Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:21:48 -0500



        yep, a subsidiary of the Welk Music Group (along with
Vanguard & a few others)

        >At 5:48 PM -0500 3/21/00, [e-mail] wrote:
        >
        >>>Any comments on Ranwood Records
        >>
        >>I think the label belonged to Lawrence Welk....Can I get a
witness?  JB
        >




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Skiffle and then some...
Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:49:39 -0500


I was looking through the bins at a local store and came across
this German record set that appeared to be what Moritz would refer
to as Skiffle.  I think the group was The Hot Dogs or something like
that.  All the usual dixieland jazz instruments and for added bonus,
the group photo on the cover showed the band sitting in an alpine
meadow with three women in traditional alpine dresses, save for
the fact that the dresses were unbuttoned to the waist!
Nonetheless I passed on it.

However, I did pick up an odd record instead; Henry Mancini -
Symphonic Soul.  It's just as you would expect, soul music
performed with a full orchestra, arranged by Mancini himself.  It's
from 1975 and consequently the influence of soul vs disco is not all
that clear in parts.  Still it has one piece that Dimitri from Paris
sampled, as well as a long symphonic version of Peter Gunn. It
features Emil Richard on percussion and Lee Ritenour.  Can't say
I've ever come across it before and odds of its being reissued
seemed slim.  Anyone know more about this one?

Another thing I heard that I'd highly recommend is a recent CD
compilation of the best of the KPM green label.  It's primarily soul-
funk influenced and what I heard of it was quite good and it was an
excellent recording.  Reminded me of many a 70's exploitation film
soundtrack. It was almost $30 in the store and I think I can get it
cheaper elsewhere in town so I held off. It has a local distributor
here in Canada.


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peddlers
Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:37:16 -0600


br. cleve wrote:

<<Their grooviest track is their version
of "On A Clear Day You CanSee Forever",
from the "3 In A Cell" LP. It shows up
on a bootleg called 'Strange Beats', as
well as on a [legit] Irma compilation
"Groovy Vol.2".>>

I first ran across The Peddlers via that
track on Groovy Vol. 2 - and you're right,
Br. - it's very groovy, so much so I went
on a hunt for their stuff and found "Part 1"
as a CD, apparently a comp. of stuff from
earlier albums, and then I got the "3 In A
Cell" LP.  There are a number of items still
available through GEMM, although as of today
I don't see "Cell."
--
Mark D. Head
The Captain
[e-mail]
_______________________________________
TANSTAAFL!




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Skiffle and then some...
Date: 22 Mar 2000 22:46:33 +0100


Brian Karasick wrote:

> I was looking through the bins at a local store and came across
> this German record set that appeared to be what Moritz would refer
> to as Skiffle.  I think the group was The Hot Dogs or something like
> that.  All the usual dixieland jazz instruments and for added bonus,
> the group photo on the cover showed the band sitting in an alpine
> meadow with three women in traditional alpine dresses, save for
> the fact that the dresses were unbuttoned to the waist!
> Nonetheless I passed on it.

You might regret it: what if, say, PhanPlastic uses a skiffle sample on his
next album and it is becoming hip? And then we all start liking Skiffle?
Happens... you know: " Many people still regard music in those styles as
"obviously awful." Do Exotica fans REALLY enjoy this music or is it all some
ironic put-on?" Frequently asked question... you never know...

Mo "Just Kidding" Ritz



The Moritz R Museum has got a new entrance: http://moritzR.de

#Exotica mailing list FAQ:
http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mina
Date: 22 Mar 2000 23:49:35 +0000


> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 11:31:04 -0800
> From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) The Return of Me

> If you don't know or remember me, I'd like to re-introduce myself. After
> years doing jazzy-lounge radio in Italy (I'm a yank), i started producing...

Where were you in Italy? Which radio? Hope it wasn't round the
corner, I wouldn't forgive myself having missed it.

> P.s. I am an expert on the Italian diva mina and have virtually everything
> she ever recorded. This fact might come in handy in the future.

You got good taste man. Do you also have her first recordings, when
she still was called "Baby Gate"? Anything I can provide, just ask.
Welcome back, you "signor fortunato".
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) mina/world standard
Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:03:12 -0500


And to bring 2 recent threads together - isn't Mina on World
Standard's Country Gazette CD?

-Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Skiffle and then some...
Date: 22 Mar 2000 18:47:46 EST



In a message dated 3/22/0 2:51:54 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

> Henry Mancini -
>Symphonic Soul.  It's just as you would expect, soul music
>performed with a full orchestra, arranged by Mancini himself.  It's
>from 1975 and consequently the influence of soul vs disco is not all
>that clear in parts.    Anyone know more about this one?

I borrowed that one for a couple of months from Jane Fondle. Its Mancini
being influenced by the influx of disco and Philadelphia soul but still with
a Touch of Mancini dominating. I'd love to find a copy for myself as it falls
under my still evolving "disceau" genre. It is an easier and very palatable
version of Love Unlimited Orchestra and MFSB imho. And if you want to sell it
off Brian.....JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic guitars
Date: 22 Mar 2000 19:10:33 -0500


At 03:33 PM 3/21/00 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Any comments on Ranwood Records' Exotic Guitars?
>I noticed today that they have a new 20 track (in 49 minutes! - you do
>the math) compilation, called Sonic Lounge.
>
>Can anyone shed light on who is in this band, and if it's worth wasting
>a few dollars on it?

I never kept an Exotic Guitars record but they sometimes had a cut or two I
kinda liked.  So a compilation of their best, assuming it was the "right"
best, could be pretty good.  And I'd still pick up any LP's I hadn't seen
before, hoping this was the one.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Beat Jazz; Pictures From The Gone World on CD
Date: 22 Mar 2000 14:45:55 -0800


New CD Add

$16.50 + shipping

Beat Jazz; Pictures From a Gone World.
Previously available only on LP in a limited pressing of 1,000
LONG out of print

20 Tracks, over 52 minutes of pure beat and beatnik instrumentals, spoken
word beat poetry and just flat out weird, wild and wonderful awesome stuff,
that you will NEVER find for less than
$30.00 per track, and MANY in the $100.00 range believe it;

18 tracks, 18 different artists

Frosty and the Diamonds-Destination Mars (killer beatnik jazz guitar
instro, from 78 rpm)
Slim Gaillard-Travelin' Blues (Spoken Word)
Kenneth Rexroth-State and 32nd (Jazz and Spoken Word)
Coleman Hawkins-Picasso (Jazz Instro)
Gregory Corso-Bomb (Spooky Cool Organ Instro)
Scotty MacKay-Black Cat (Instro)
Jack Hammer-Like (Spoken Word w/ fast paced bongo sounds)
Gil Melle'-The Gears (Instro)
Doctor Bop-Satin and Velvet (Spoken Word and Burnin' Bluesy Jazz)
Anita Ellis and David Amran-The Crazy Daisy (Spoken Word from film that
Jack Kerouac had made)
Bob Dorough-Dog (From Jazz Canto LP, 1957, Spoken Word and Beatnik Jazz)
Harvey Anderson-Monday Night at 8pm (Spoken Word)
Jack Kerouac-Cockroach (Spoken Word and Music)
Sun Ra-Dreaming (instro)
Roy Glenn-Big High Song for Somebody (Jazz Canto LP, Spoken Word with Jazz)
Ada Moore-Devil (Word/Music)
Moondog-Up Broadway (Percussive Instro with sounds of the Streets of NY)
Woody Leafer-Drums in My Typewriter (Weirdness sounds fucking with your
doper beatnik head Reverberated Percussion and Spoken Word; MUST BE STONED
TO DIG, dig ?)

Thanks again to all,
Jack

The bitterness of poor quality and poor service lingers long after
the sweetness of the cheap price is forgotten.

Jack Diamond Music
jackdiamond dot com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Help wanted:Italian Pop
Date: 23 Mar 2000 00:11:33 -0500


Calling all experts on Italian pop music.
(Perhaps Giovanni?)
My friends are completing a lowish budget feature film.  They've been using
a cut by Paolo Conti in an important position in the film but they're
finding that it would be expensive to license it for the film.
So can anyone suggest Italian music of the same type that might be a bit
more obscure and therefore a bit more inexpensive?
Maybe something a bit older or less contemporary than Paolo?
I haven't heard the cut but they tell me it's "breezy".
Any and all suggestions are welcome.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) April 1 in Denver
Date: 22 Mar 2000 23:23:03 -0800


Sat. April 1st, 8:00
Bluebird Theatre in Denver
Tickets are $15

    I am posting this promote the two opening bands
for the still amazing Dick Dale.  The Hellmen and
Maracha Five-0.
    The Hellmen, while at first could be hard to
describe put on one of the most entertaining shows
here in Denver.  A reference point could be the
Birthday Party, if Mr. Cave were even a bit bouncy
with youthful fun.
    Maracha Five-0 are finally what Denver has needed
since the loss of the Astronaunts a grand 30 some
years ago.  They are a fantastic surf band blazing
long lost trails for the rocky mountain region.

                          PATRICK g. ROBINson
                           BURN DENVER DOWN
[e-mail]


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki art
Date: 22 Mar 2000 23:26:21 -0800


I believe I posted this before but no one replied
this time I want all interested parties to contact Rob directly and
immediately
do not wait as the show may fill up and you will not be able to get your art
in it
________________
Call for entries

Savage City - An Exotica group art show
July 8 - Sept 30
downtown Toronto

curated by artist Rob Elliot
email: [e-mail]
tel: [phone]

________________
Ciao
Otto

[e-mail]
www.tikinews.com
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ranwood Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 06:51:40


Both Sides Now Publications added a page on Ranwood at their terrific
discography site late last year:

http://bsnpubs.com/dot/ranwood.html

From the page:

"Ranwood Records was founded in 1968 by Randy Wood (hence the label name),
erstwhile founder and President of Dot Records, along with Lawrence Welk.
It is still in operation today, issuing CDs. It was at the beginning, is
now, and ever shall be, an extension of the Lawrence Welk Show."

Among the occasional diversions from the Welk repertoire was a 1971 album,
"Turn of the Century," by John Wood, whom I suspect was Randy's son.
Beautiful shiny silver gatefold cover.  John plays synth and a bunch of
other things through the wonder of multi-tracking.   Unfortunately, it
reminds me most of one of those homemade organ records you sometimes find
in thrifts:  lots of musicianship, not much music.

Brad



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:03:29 -0500


Okay, I know someone in Japan who can probably locate CD's for me =
cheaply.......what are some of the best Kahimi CD's - please post =
recommendations???

Thanks -

Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 06:12:27 -0800 (PST)


I may be alone here, but I love religious records.
Mysterium, tremendum, facsinans: the overwhelming
force of the presence of the godhead has throughout
history inspired men, women and hamsters to great
things.

In 1969 it inspired Benny Dean, an ex-car thief, drunk
and junkie who'd lost his sight in a prison accident
to become humble good ol' boy and record, upon his
release, I'd Rather Be Blind: a wonderful C&W record
of songs dealing with eyesight, prison, vice and the
Lord. It is interesting to think what might have been,
like if Benny could haver found his Paul McCartney -
in say,  on a followup lp (when Fred's warbling
whistle kicks in on What a Friend We have in Jesus, I
get that holy rush I used to get when Jimi Hendrix's
solo kicked in, right after he  exclaimed "I'm a
Voodoo Chile").

The McGuire Sisters: I Should Have been Crucified. Big
ol' cross looming on the front cover, and, on the
back, hairdos as high as the hill of skulls. And one
look at these ladies... I concur with the title. Never
played the record.

Charlie the Hamster Leads the Choir: whereof one
cannot speak....

Perhaps best of allI have an lp put out in the 60s
called "For Mature Adults," while cover with
silhouettes of slouchy teens. Sounds risque, no? Well,
it's a bunch of real sappy teenage poetry put to folk,
bubblegum psych music and sung by cleancut church kids
or - and these are the best cuts - narrated by a "hip"
doctor of theology (Norman "Doc" Habel) who elocutes
as though he PhD'd at the William Shatner forensics
academy. Cool to hear his studied voice passionately
deliver a young girl's poem describing her feelings as
she comes into sexual awareness - in the 1st person.
Accompanied by precious harp strummings. You'd have to
be pretty mature not to be in stitches - or wonder
when Bugs Bunny's going to turn up.

Any other classics to look out for?

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Rel. lps... oops
Date: 23 Mar 2000 06:22:07 -0800 (PST)


Meant to ad Fred Lowrey's recordings - and include him
in the machine that could have been Benny and Fred.

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:56:39 EST


<< I may be alone here, but I love religious records.>>

Nope, you ain't alone.

 Any other classics to look out for? >>

Sure.  For starters, check out Will's Show and Tell Music Site.  He has an
entire gallery devoted to the stuff.

http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/christian/christian.html

He and I got together and put out a CD-R with two classics, "The Game Of
Life" and "Flight F-I-N-AL" awhile back.  It's still available - talk to
Will...

Whistling and canary songster fanatic that I am, I can also vouch for a
number of whistling LP's by Ralph Platt and Fred Lowery.

There is at least one moog religious record that I know of by Ralph
Carmichael (Presents The Electric Symphony).

Of course there is Marcy, Jim and Tammy and Little Markie.

And the list really goes on and on and on.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ranwood Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:41:27 -0500


At 06:51 AM 3/23/00 +0000, you wrote:

>Both Sides Now Publications added a page on Ranwood at their terrific
>discography site late last year:

When I interned for National Public Radio, CD's were in their infancy.  I
remember that there was a news story at the time that was caused due to the
paucity of CD plants.  There was a recall of R-8213 - Polka Party - Myron
Floren (I think this was the title), because while the CD said Polka Party,
people ended up with a punk record.  Does anyone else recall this story?




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:37:20 -0800 (PST)


Great stuff, very inspiring. I have a Christian
percussion lp - can't recall the artist's name, but
the colorful cover pictures him in a sea of
instruments: guiras, vibes, bongos, bells, etc. The
narrative on the back of the cover explains all of the
instruments and the exotic proseltized lands from
which they originated. So much potential percussive
power - bland as unleavened bread.

Thank you for the info!

--- [e-mail] wrote:
..
> Sure.  For starters, check out Will's Show and Tell
> Music Site.  He has an
> entire gallery devoted to the stuff.

http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/christian/christian.html


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Naughty Arthur and Jayne Mansfield????
Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:37:52 PST


Someone on eBay is selling "Pele" claiming that, a)the nude blonde woman is
Jayne Mansfield, and b)that the cover was banned.

Are either of these items true?
Thanks

A. Fish
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 07:42:37 -0800


>I may be alone here, but I love religious records.
>Mysterium, tremendum, facsinans: the overwhelming
>force of the presence of the godhead has throughout
>history inspired men, women and hamsters to great
>things.

[snip]

>Any other classics to look out for?

I don't know anything about hamsters leading church choirs, and religious
records are definitely not my thing, but since you asked--there are many
good musicians on religious records.  Two good examples are Cliff
Barrows, former trombonist and announcer/host of televised Billy Graham
specials for decades and Ralph Carmichael--who has worked in both the
religious and non-religious world (he arranged and conducted the material
on Nat King Cole's "The Christmas Song" album, for example).

In the 1960s, Cliff Barrows made many records on the Word label--none
with trombone that I can recall, but with his youth choir singing many of
the hip-ly arranged tunes composed and arranged by Ralph Carmichael.
Good music in every sense of the word, but always with the message, of
course.

Ralph Carmichael has made many albums of his own (also on the Word
label), featuring young people singing his compositions and he's also
made albums featuring his instrumental orchestrations.  I'd recommend
both these people to you, but I'd have to also say that there is nothing
wacky or strange about either artist, just straightforward music.
Definitely no hamsters present.

Two others I can think of off the top of my head are the vocal recordings
of George Beverley Shea (whom my grandmother had several recordings of)
and the religious records of "pea-pickin'" Tennessee Ernie Ford.  I've
also heard that Johnny and June Carter Cash have made relgiious records,
too.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:12:04 -0500


For the newer members of the list, there is always Marcy (Wigner?).  A
woman with such a high voice that no one believe that it was a full grown
woman singing.  Her husband suggested that she make a doll, "Little Marcy",
so that kids would believe that Little Marcy would be the one singing.  Her
first record is the one to get, "Sing With Marcy", which features the
fabulous "Join the Gospel Express" (also anthologized on Incredibly Strange
Music #2), a wonder of sped-up guitar effects.

The rest of the album is not as novel, but a kind of saccharine torture
overall.

Did Kathryn Kuhlman ever make any records?  Her odd, swooping delivery of
sermons was something.

Brian Phillips

P.S. Being a Christian, I can wholeheartedly recommend James Cleveland with
the Angelic Choir's  "Peace Be Still" on Savoy.  It may feature a young
Billy Preston on organ.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:13:10 -0800 (PST)


Johnny Cash, even with June Carter I just can't seem
to listen to irreverently. So I prefer to listen to
his secular efforts. Tenessee Ernie Williams is so
cornball he's fattening. Charlie the Hamster records
may not change your life, but they do put the fun back
in fundamentalism (forgive me). Think of Charlie
Feather's hiccupy vocals recorded for 33 1/3 played at
78....

Another interesting genre is Lesbian folk. I have a
wonderful lp on the Folkways label by a very angry
young woman named kathy Fire. One song celebrates
child abduction (lesbians snagging a child from the
wife-beating ex-husband), another, castration.
Excellent stuff, much passion. And their's a very
sweet one, by xxAlix on Gyn Records called To Gywnn
with Love or something like that.
--- "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]> wrote:
...
>
> >Any other classics to look out for?
>
> I don't know anything about hamsters leading church
> choirs, and religious


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Ross Russell, Ivan Hirst
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:15:04 -0500


March 23, 2000
Ross Russell, 90; Recorded Charlie Parker
By BEN RATLIFF, NYTimes

Ross Russell, who recorded Charlie Parker on his small independent
jazz label, Dial Records, and wrote a biography of Parker as well
as a book on the history of Kansas City jazz, died on Jan. 31 at a
hospital in Palm Springs, Calif.
He was 90.

Mr. Russell was born and raised in Los Angeles and spent his early adult
years as a telegram deliveryman, a cub reporter and a writer of detective
stories for pulp magazines. He began collecting records in the 1930's,
and spent some time touring with the bandleader Luis Russell.

His professional involvement with jazz was brief but controversial. In
1945, with $5,000 back pay after leaving the Merchant Marine, he
opened a jazz record shop in Los Angeles, the Tempo Music Store.

Independent labels were flourishing, and that fall Mr. Russell took it upon
himself to record Charlie Parker when the saxophonist came to Los
Angeles to play an engagement at Billy Berg's nightclub as a member of
Dizzy Gillespie's sextet.

That period yielded a series of 78-rpm records, released on Dial, Mr.
Russell's label.
Mr. Russell supervised the recordings.

The first batch, done in February 1946, were among Parker's greatest
work.

But in July Mr. Russell brought Parker back to the studio, at a time when
the saxophonist was at his most tortured: his Los Angeles heroin source
had been arrested, and he was deep into alcohol binges.

During a version of the ballad "Lover Man," Parker's withdrawal
symptoms altered the control in his playing, giving him involuntary muscle
spasms, making him sound sick and adrift.

Elliott Grennard, a Billboard writer who witnessed the recording, wrote a
short story about it for Harper's magazine called "Sparrow's Last Jump."
The evening of the "Lover Man" sessions, Parker experienced a full
emotional collapse: he set his bed on fire with a cigarette and was
subsequently jailed and sent to Camarillo State Hospital, a psychiatric
institution near Los Angeles, for six months.

Mr. Russell released "Lover Man," and it became a symbolic tale of
cultural exploitation -- of artists who don't own their work set against
businessmen who do.

Mr. Russell remained an ally of Parker's for the rest of the time Parker
stayed in Los Angeles, becoming his legal guardian after Parker's release
from Camarillo.

But Parker later made no secret of his anger about the release of "Lover
Man."

Mr. Russell moved to New York in the late 1940's and by the 50's had
abandoned the record business.

He wrote a biography of Parker, "Bird Lives! The High Life and Hard
Times of Charlie (Yardbird) Parker," published in 1973; it was a vivid,
well-written book, although it has since been criticized for inaccuracies.
He also wrote "Jazz Style in Kansas City and the Southwest" and a
novel, "The Sound," about a fictional jazz musician based on Parker.

In later years he ran a golf club in Massachusetts and lived at various
times in South Africa, England, Germany and Austria. He sold Dial's
catalog to Spotlite Records in England in 1990.
He is survived by a son, David, of San Jose, Calif.
----------
                            *Ivan Hirst
    LONDON (AP) -- Ivan Hirst, a British army engineer who was
instrumental in putting the Volkswagen into mass production after
World War II and getting the carmaker's famed Beetle to roll off
the assembly line, died March 10 in Marsden.
    Hirst, then a major in the Royal Electrical and Mechanical
Engineers, was sent to Wolfsburg in 1945 after British forces took
control of the Volkswagen factory, which was built to turn Adolf
Hitler's dream of a people's car into reality.
    The outbreak of war stopped production of the first Volkswagen --
known today as the Beetle -- before it began and the factory was
turned over to the task of making military vehicles. The factory
was heavily bombed by the allies and Hirst was one of a group of
officers posted there after Germany's surrender.
    His assignment was to set up a workshop to repair British
vehicles, and to dispose of the production line and machine tools.
However, no one wanted the equipment.
    However, two Beetles were produced by hand, and Hirst sent one
to the army for a test. The British army was so impressed that it
ordered 20,000, to be built as war reparations. By the end of 1945,
the factory turned out 1,785. By the next October, production hit
10,000.
    Hirst left Wolfsburg in August 1949, a month before the company
was formally handed over to a trust run by the West German
government.
    He later worked in the Foreign Office's German section, then
joined the secretariat of the Organization for Economic Cooperation
and Development in Paris, retiring in 1975.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:25:22 -0800


>Johnny Cash, even with June Carter I just can't seem
>to listen to irreverently. So I prefer to listen to
>his secular efforts. Tenessee Ernie Williams is so
>cornball he's fattening.

Whatever.  You asked for suggestions and I gave you the ones I could
think of.  It goes without saying that every artist out there does not
fit each of our tastes/likes...

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:24:25 -0800


>Johnny Cash, even with June Carter I just can't seem
>to listen to irreverently. So I prefer to listen to
>his secular efforts. Tenessee Ernie Williams is so
>cornball he's fattening.

Whatever.  You asked for suggestions and I gave you the ones I could
think of.  It goes without saying that every artist out there does not
fit each of our tastes/likes...

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Joy
Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:14:43 +0100




Dr. Joy Browne, her attacks of silliness in front of her studio=20
audience make her fascinating and vaguely alarming to watch,=20
like a continuously exploding souffl=E9. A typical episode has=20
her listening to a man whose affair, he claimed, was an accident.
He hadn't meant to have sex. It just happened. "Oh please!"=20
Browne bellowed at him, jumping up so fast in her agitation that
she nearly fell over backward. "You have to unzip your pants" --
she gesticulated wildly, whirling her arms like windmills --=20
"You have to whip it out" -- grand penis-presentation gesture=20
here -- "It doesn't just happen!"

Browne, from New Orleans, sounds like Eve Arden mouthing off to=20
James Stewart in "Anatomy of a Murder": mature, smoky, wryly
secretarial. She talks too fast, but it adds to the impression=20
that the weight of her knowledge makes her nervous. This cagey
woman, who's got some pair of legs to go with that voice, does
her broadcasting from New York, which gives her a tasty range
of sonorities in her callers. Browne's also the only radio talk-
show host to slip the Ink Spots and Esquivel into her bump music.=20



http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2000/03/23/shrinks/index.html


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 08:35:41 -0800 (PST)


Sorry, BJ. As I did not mean to commit so many
mispellings and grammatical errors, neither did I
intend to offend you. I am familiar with Johnny Cash,
and like him very much. I am familiar with TEF, and do
not like him. These, of course, as you eventually
concluded, preferences, opinions - not insults. I do
appreciate your response and agree with much of what
you said.

--- "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]> wrote:
...
> Whatever.  You asked for suggestions and I gave you
> the ones I could
> think of.  It goes without saying that every artist
> out there does not
> fit each of our tastes/likes...


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jayne Mansfield and Jimi Hendrix??
Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:54:48 PST



   Does anyone know anything about a two song, 12 inch rekkid sung by Jayne,
with Hendrix as a studio musician? Supposedly only 500 copies were made.


Anyone?????
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "JOACHIM TEVEBRING" <[e-mail]>
Subject: VB: (exotica) Jayne Mansfield and Jimi Hendrix??
Date: 23 Mar 2000 19:19:07 +0100



>   Does anyone know anything about a two song, 12 inch rekkid sung by =
Jayne,=20
>with Hendrix as a studio musician? Supposedly only 500 copies were =
made.


It=B4s a 7inch record released in 1967 (London HL 10147, it was also =
released in germany, LondonDL-20841): As The Clouds Drift By b/w Suey. =
Hendrix plays on Suey only. I don=B4t know if it was only 500 copies but =
that=B4s proparbly what it sold at the time. It=B4s on the beatifully =
pop-up packaged Jayne-comp "Too Hot To Handle" (Legend).

Joachim





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:26:30 -0500


At 06:12 AM 3/23/00 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote:
>
>I may be alone here, but I love religious records.
>Any other classics to look out for?

My only true classic is a spoken word record called "The Big Beat, A Rock
Blast" in which Frank Garlock "one of America's best-known authorities on
the dangers of rock music" - and also a faculty member at Bob Jones
University - lectures about the dangers of you-know-what to a bunch of
college students.  It's a two record set but I unfortunately only have one
of the records.
On side one of the record I have, his main targets are Dylan and Jesus
Christ Superstar.  My favorite part is when he plays a Dylan song and
interprets the lyrics.

Do you like religious records only when they're "campy"?  For camp value, I
have to throw my vote behind the already mentioned Little Marcy (and that's
Tigner, not Wigner).  She sort of reminds me of Jonathan Richman or even
Half Japanese in terms of the sheer volume of "original" songs she comes up
with.  Someday when I've got a CD burner and I've burned my way through the
records I actually like, I'm going to burn a torturous compilation of hers
and then burn the records themselves in an oil drum outside.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:29:18 EST



In a message dated 3/23/0 8:59:15 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>what are some of the best Kahimi CD's - please post recommendations???

I really like the one with "Mike Alway's Diary" and "Candyman" on
it...Blissful 6T's derivative pop with that super-soft purring voice 'o'
her's ..  JB/G-r-r-owl


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mina
Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:23:56 -0500



From "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]> and "Steve Sando"
<[e-mail]>

> P.s. I am an expert on the Italian diva mina and have virtually
everything
> she ever recorded. This fact might come in handy in the future.

Steve and Giovanni,

(Giovanni e il nome de mio padre)

Mina: Was she a co-host on some variety show in Italy in the mid 70's?  I
lived in Italy at that time and me and all the kids in school all had the
hots for her. Back then they called he La Mina.


Domenic




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) RE: Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:49:10 -0600


Nice to see this topic come up.. I was just at the bi-annual record
convention in Austin (tx) and ran in to a
local who I always see coming out of the thrifts with records as I am going
in.  While I should have probably busted
his knee-caps, I instead got in to a conversation with him and a buyer he
was selling some religious records to...
He had some nice ones concerning the dangers of psychadelic drugs,
rock-n-roll, and the like.

I told them to be on the lookout for Little Markie..

As far as my personal favorites.. of course Flight f-i-n-a-l is one of the
neatest.

Be on the lookout for "God is a Killer!" and other records by George Allen
(?) (and his miracle restoration revival).
I sure hope his name is George Allen, I post to here from work so I'm never
by my records to check facts out!
God is a Killer is usually on red vinyl also which makes it a good score.
It's very sensational and he is a very
intense speaker preaching fire and brimstone... he goes down the list of
people that God struck down in the Bible.. in one part saying, "God... you
sicced dogs on a woman?!"  Often he will repeat, "GOD... is a KILLER!". The
B-side has another sermon about a man who cheats on his wife and when he
comes home one days she shoots him and "blood runs down the walls".   On the
back of the album you can see he has some other albums that look really good
and I'm always on the lookout for them.  Going to Lubbock this weekend..
very conservative town where I found most of my good religious records.  I
believe Allen may have done one record concerning LSD but I'm not sure.

Another interesting thing.. I've come across a lot of signed religious
records.. I imagine the point of sale on most of these records were at
traveling revivals..  I had a Jimmy Swaggart autograph but I haven't seen it
lately.  Too many records floating around here.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:15:47 -0800 (PST)


The Garlock (sounds alot like warlock or morlock,
hmmm), sounds very creepy - like a sonic window back
on a time when we had a very meaningful social dialog
going on.

I do have to confess (forgive, again): I think that
religious records (I do not include gospel music in
that grouping) are inherently campy - and the
flagrancy of the camp aspect, along with an angle that
is either truly weird or musically interesting, is
what determines whether or not I like the record
(Charlie the Hamster is an example of the first, Fred
Lowery of the 2nd) - and I've had to buy and dispose
of more than a few that did not live up. Sadly I have
not come across the Little Marcy - it sounds like one
that I would like. Please think of me before torching
her. There are those in my household, however, who
despair of the idea of passing along my DNA, and have
hinted at keeping me heirless if I continue to play
these things and listen to them with such evident
pleasure on my face.

Best,

BW

--- Nat Kone <[e-mail]> wrote:

> My only true classic is a spoken word record called
> "The Big Beat, A Rock
> Blast" in which Frank Garlock "one of America's
> best-known authorities on
> the dangers of rock music"

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Myron "Punk" Floren
Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:28:02 -0800



>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 09:41:27 -0500
>From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Ranwood Records
>
>There was a recall of R-8213 - Polka Party - Myron
>Floren (I think this was the title), because while the CD said Polka Party,
>people ended up with a punk record.  Does anyone else recall this story?

I actually ended up with that CD from a used bin. It was labelled on
the cover and on the disk itself "Myron Floren" but when you played
it, it had the Sex Pistols on it. I was kinda disappointed because
I was really in the mood for polka, not slam dancing.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: (more) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:26:50 -0800 (PST)


I concur and laugh with regards to buckwheating the
fellow thrifter. I think I've gievn screed before
regarding local interlopers who score MY records. As
for preacher records, I experimented with a few
Swaggart's and really felt like I was glad no one was
these to see me take the thing out of the bag and play
it. But then I love that pink little toad Jim Baker
and his perky sidekick in sacred bilkery,
Tammy-Fae-Bob or whatever. And I would kill for a
Robert Tilton lp (I think he was on in Texas in the
80s & early 90s). He'd do a rap about Jesus or money
or how he used to be all filthy on dope and then bip
bop boom! he's speaking fluent Martian: "kasunda della
besoya" is one memorable phrase. Merrill Womach is
cool, but are very guilty pleasures: the tacky little
pamphlet in the bottom drawer of my record collection.

--- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Nice to see this topic come up.. I was just at the
> bi-annual record
> convention in Austin (tx) and ran in to a


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:30:33 -0800


>Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:35:41 -0800 (PST)
>From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
>
>I am familiar with TEF, and do not like him.

His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to take, but
his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons"
are just about as hip as you can get.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:26:59 -0800


Seems like all the really easy targets have been picked-off in this
discussion, but I will ruminate a little on several of these, as this is an
area in which I am fascitated.

Little Marcy is something that needs to be experienced by everyone who has
an interest in the seemy underbelly of records. There is something really
sick going on in those records, and that airy, little-girl voice give me the
heebs, but that't NOTHING compared to the tortured caterwauliling of Tammy
Faye Bakker "One two three - the De-Vil's after me... Four five six - He's
alway's throwing sticks...Seven, eight, nine - He miss-es every time.
HAL-A-LOO-YA, HAL-A-LOO-YA  Ay-MEN!"  The flipside of these two J&TFB
records contains an audio version of their puppet-ministry.  Yikes.

Flight F-I-N-A-L and the Game of Life are two peas in a pod. Basic Hip put
these together on a CDR, and I dare say it is the perfect "Pizza and Beer"
combination of religious hyperbole. Both attempt to illustrate religious
views by making comparisons to everyday life. Flight F-I-N-A-L lets the
listener ride-along on jet-plane taking believers non-stop to the pearly
gates. What's that out the left side of the aircraft? Why, it's a heavenly
host of Angels, singing the praises of our Eternal Lord. It's kinda like a
Jack T. Chick religious tract without all the Catholic-bashin and
Anti-semitism. (Never heard of jack chick? Grab a beverage, do a websearch
and be afraid. Be VERY afraid.)  Game of life, an allegory of a football
game between Good and Evil seems a lot more lighthearted, but still preachy
enough to generate a titter or two.

I have that religious MOOG record. It's no great shakes. But I got it at a
religious thrift-store and it came in the same haul as Flight FINAL, and a
wonderfully schmaltzy Walter Brennan record, so I have to keep them
together.

I have yet to find any Spoken Word "Rock is the Devil's Hand-Tool." Kinda
thing, though I do have some records about the end times includinding dire
predictions of world-scale communist regimes and a lot thinly veiled anti
Catholic/Semite rhetoric. I get excited when I find these, but none have
really panned out as being the real knee-slapping silliness I anticipate.
It's just ugly. Go figure.

As for Lesbian Folk, I recall a song - was it by Meg Christian? not sure -
Called "Mammary Glands (Mother Nature's Dairy Dee-Lite)"  But that could
just be a bad dream.

And now to the question portion of today's post - Was the Song "Lesbian
Seagull" as featured in the Beavis and Butthead Movie an actual song as I
have heard some insist?  Or am I dreaming this too?

Ron "Dreaming too much about Lesbians" Grandia



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) RE: (more) Religious Rober Tilden
Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:36:10 -0800



Ahh yes, Bob Tilden.  Remember all the funny faces he would make as he was
filled with the spirit?  Some GENIUS must have spent DAYS compiling these
and edited them together into a hilarious tape in which every time he makes
one of those God-Grimaces, a fart noise is dubbed-into the sountrack.

It sounds corny, but I hurt the next day from laughing.



And I would kill for a
> Robert Tilton lp (I think he was on in Texas in the
> 80s & early 90s). He'd do a rap about Jesus or money
> or how he used to be all filthy on dope and then bip
> bop boom! he's speaking fluent Martian: "kasunda della
> besoya" is one memorable phrase. Merrill Womach is
> cool, but are very guilty pleasures: the tacky little
> pamphlet in the bottom drawer of my record collection.
>



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) RE: (more) Religious Rober Tilden
Date: 23 Mar 2000 12:42:13 -0800 (PST)


And verily I would raise the dead for a copy of that
tape.

--- Ron Grandia <[e-mail]> wrote:

 Ahh yes, Bob Tilden.  Remember all the funny faces
 he would make as he was
 filled with the spirit?  Some GENIUS must have spent
 DAYS compiling these
and edited them together into a hilarious tape in
which every time he makes
 one of those God-Grimaces, a fart noise is
 dubbed-into the sountrack.

 It sounds corny, but I hurt the next day from
> laughing.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kahimi Karie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:48:06 -0600


Nathan Miner wrote:

<<Okay, I know someone in Japan who can probably locate CD's for me =
cheaply.......what are some of the best Kahimi CD's - please post =
recommendations???>>

I think her best overall release is "Kahimi Karie," a domestic release
on
Minty Fresh - it's available here for $13.49 from CDNow:
1. Good Morning World
2. Candyman
3. Elastic Girl
4. Mike Alway's Diary
5. Le Roi Soleil
6. Take It Easy My Brother Charlie
7. Zoom Up!
8. Serieux Comme Le Plaisir
9. Lolitapop Dollhouse
10.Dis-Moi Quelque Chose Avant De Dormir
11.The Way You Close Your Eyes

I also have KKKKK (full-length CD), Leur L'Existence (EP), Le Roi Soleil

(EP), I Am A Kitten, (EP), plus a couple of others.  I Am A Kitten is
worth having, and the EP of Mike Always' Diary has a kick-ass version of

Matt Bianco's "Get Out Your Lazy Bed" but I'm not overly enamored with
the rest of her releases.
--
Mark D. Head
The Captain
[e-mail]
_______________________________________
TANSTAAFL!




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moog Soop Poop
Date: 24 Mar 2000 07:59:52 +1100


To all of you who're patiently waiting for your Soop to be served, take
heart...I'm finishing up a massive 32+ burn of the MS discs, and will pack
'em up and ship them all out later next week.  Sorry for the delay...almost
there!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 16:50:14 -0500


BJ Major wrote:
> Another interesting genre is Lesbian folk. I have a
> wonderful lp on the Folkways label by a very angry
> young woman named kathy Fire. One song celebrates
> child abduction (lesbians snagging a child from the
> wife-beating ex-husband), another, castration.
Yikes... and I though people would make the wrong association if I
mentioned I was once a Psychic TV fan!!! Brings a whole new
meaning to that slogan "We're mad as hell and not going to take it
anymore"...

Anyway, when it comes to religious records though, I much prefer
those that make fun of the subject to those that preach it ... like
say Mickey Katz, or the "You Don't have to be Jewish" series, and
even more oscure, a CD by a group called The National Hardwood
Floor Association of crank calls to Christian radio stations.

While in Florida earlier this year I had little to listen to and
somehow tuned into a Christian radio station that was playing this
strange song.  I don't remember that well except it was a slow
building up song modern pop song about the growing inability to
"preach your faith" and about America being run by godless types
and how "we" want it back. I have a low tolerance for organized
religion of any kind (myo own included!) and can see the blame
being placed in all the usual places,  were they to come out and
say what they really thought.

Anyway, enough about the song (although I'd sure like to know
what it was). Still, after hearing it I couldn't help but think about
what incredible sampling material this song and a lot of the
material on these stations would make for a talented musical
prankster.  Hmm... wonder what Boyd Rice is doing these days...


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:54:05 +1100


on 24/3/00 1:12 AM, Ben Waugh at [e-mail] wrote:


>
> Perhaps best of allI have an lp put out in the 60s
> called "For Mature Adults," while cover with
> silhouettes of slouchy teens. Sounds risque, no? Well,
> it's a bunch of real sappy teenage poetry put to folk,
> bubblegum psych music and sung by cleancut church kids
> or - and these are the best cuts - narrated by a "hip"
> doctor of theology (Norman "Doc" Habel) who elocutes
> as though he PhD'd at the William Shatner forensics
> academy. Cool to hear his studied voice passionately
> deliver a young girl's poem describing her feelings as
> she comes into sexual awareness - in the 1st person.
> Accompanied by precious harp strummings. You'd have to
> be pretty mature not to be in stitches - or wonder
> when Bugs Bunny's going to turn up.

I recently retrieved this one from my mothers collection when she moved.
This is the sort of stuff I was brought up with which explains a lot - but
I've forgiven her now - almost.

Philip


--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 14:09:10 -0800 (PST)


Actually, "Black Shadows" is eerily tuneful. I find
myself actually enjoying it earnestly on occasion.
Although the lyrics pursue no real logic, you do get a
sense of the throbbing angst of nostalgia for the
snuggly universe of the nursery and some alluringly
absent Other. Michelle is fun only for the obvious
wrongness and concommitant lack of self-consciousness
on the narrator's part.

On an aside, with regards to what we were brought up
on... I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic
elementary school (St. Scrofulus of Lazaretto) in the
60s. I really enjoyed whatever glasnost occured in the
vatican that allowed guitars and tambourines in
church: the lord's prayer was downright jaunty... by
nine year old Catholic schoolboy standards (and Sister
Christine, the front-nun, was hot).

--- Philip Jackson <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I recently retrieved this one from my mothers
 collection when she moved.
 This is the sort of stuff I was brought up with
 which explains a lot - but
 I've forgiven her now - almost.

> Philip


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:13:47 -0500



>His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to take, but
>his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons"
>are just about as hip as you can get.

...until you get around to the double-sided wallop of "Fatback, Louisiana
USA" (one of the credited writers is Stan Freberg!) and "Snowshoe
Thompson".  I don't know who his band was, but they were on the money on
this one.  I am no aFordcianado, but I was very glad to get this 78 when I
had heard a clip of "Fatback..." on another compilation I have.

According to Dr. Demento, Mr. Ford was a favorite singer of no less than
Queen Elizabeth II, so I have to think:  I am partially West Indian, I have
some relations in Jamaica, the citizens there have dual citizenship
and...and...

OH!

Hi, Queenie, hello...

Brian Phillips, Uh-Oh.B.E




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Help wanted: Italian Pop
Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:37:23 +0000


> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:11:33 -0500
> From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Help wanted:Italian Pop
>
> Calling all experts on Italian pop music.
> (Perhaps Giovanni?)
> My friends are completing a lowish budget feature film.  They've been using
> a cut by Paolo Conti in an important position in the film but they're
> finding that it would be expensive to license it for the film.
> So can anyone suggest Italian music of the same type that might be a bit
> more obscure and therefore a bit more inexpensive?
> Maybe something a bit older or less contemporary than Paolo?
> I haven't heard the cut but they tell me it's "breezy".
> Any and all suggestions are welcome.
> Nat

I'm not surprised Paolo Conte (that's it, not Conti; Conte as
Nicola Conte, who's no relative anyway) is expensive to get: he's a
major contemporary Italian feature.
His music owes a lot to swing, and I think some Natalino Otto will
do. He had the same verve as Conte's, even more passionate, in the
forties. Steve "Mr. Lucky" can help you, also.
You see it's quite hard to advice some music to a film scene you
haven't seen. Don't even know what's the story's about.
Hope this can help anyway.
Ciao
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund
Date: 23 Mar 2000 15:50:41 -0800


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Nat Kone
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 11:27 AM

> Someday when I've got a CD burner and I've burned my way
> through the
> records I actually like, I'm going to burn a torturous compilation of hers
> and then burn the records themselves in an oil drum outside.

The subject header says it all. So Nat, if I contribute a few exotica bucks
to the Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund, will you burn me a few CDs before you
burn the records?

Later,
Ben

http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FERRANTE & TEICHER Web address change!!
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:32:15 +1100


Attention folks!

Mo brought up a salient point about the "&" symbol possibly posing problems
down the line, so the web address is now, REALLY:

http://go.to/ferranteandteicher

No, really.

I'm in the process of seeing about switching servers, but this URL will
remain constant.  Thanks for updating all yer bookmarks!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 24 Mar 2000 01:56:35 +0100



>As for Lesbian Folk, I recall a song - was it by Meg Christian? not sure -
>Called "Mammary Glands (Mother Nature's Dairy Dee-Lite)"  But that could
>just be a bad dream.


My vote goes, unreserved, to Two Nice Girls,
I spent my last $10.00 (on Birth Control & Beer)


I spent my last ten dollars on birth control and beer
My life was so much simpler when I was sober and queer
But the love of a strong hairy man has turned my head I fear
And made me spend my last ten bucks on birth control and beer


Cheers, Ton

PS

Speaking of toads, did Benny Hinn do any records?


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 23 Mar 2000 17:18:50 -0800


Ton wrote:

... chop ...

> My vote goes, unreserved, to Two Nice Girls,
> I spent my last $10.00 (on Birth Control & Beer)
>
> I spent my last ten dollars on birth control and beer
> My life was so much simpler when I was sober and queer
> But the love of a strong hairy man has turned my head I fear
> And made me spend my last ten bucks on birth control and beer

... chop ...

> PS
>
> Speaking of toads, did Benny Hinn do any records?

Benny Hill? God - I hope so ...

AMG shows three albums (http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B30767):

   1992 The Best of Benny Hill, Continuum
    ??  Words and Music, Capitol         <--- hard to believe
   196? On Top with Benny Hill           <--- must be excellent!

None have been reviewed. Snicker.

Erik
www.swankradio.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "JOACHIM TEVEBRING" <[e-mail]>
Subject: VB: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 24 Mar 2000 02:48:10 +0100



>   1992 The Best of Benny Hill, Continuum
>    ??  Words and Music, Capitol         <--- hard to believe
>   196? On Top with Benny Hill           <--- must be excellent!


His first album Benny Hill Sings? (on PYE in 1965) is quite good (well =
sort of). Wild Women is a really great tune and he doesn=B4t sing that =
bad.


Joachim



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 18:16:16 -0800


> His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to take, but
his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons"
are just about as hip as you can get.

I have to agree that Sixteen Tons is an all-time great.  And a find example
of how delicious it can be when pop and country blend, like "I can't stop
loving you" by Ray Charles, "Ramblin Rose" and "Ballad of Cat Balou" by Nat
King Cole, "The man who shot Liberty Valence" by Gene Pitney, and similar
tracks by Dean Martin and others.  I always hoped that Ultra Lounge or some
similar project would put out a "country bachelor pop" collection.  Guess
I'll just have to make my own.

Jerry



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Beat Jazz; Pictures From The Gone World on CD
Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:25:47 EST


I'll just note that I have this LP and it's one of the treasures of my
collection with some absolutely amazing beat-jazz-spoken-word bits.  Love
love love these cuts, especially Jack Hammer's "Like"...

Slim Gaillard-Travelin' Blues (Spoken Word)
Kenneth Rexroth-State and 32nd (Jazz and Spoken Word)
Scotty MacKay-Black Cat (Instro)
Jack Hammer-Like (Spoken Word w/ fast paced bongo sounds)
Bob Dorough-Dog (From Jazz Canto LP, 1957, Spoken Word and Beatnik Jazz)
Harvey Anderson-Monday Night at 8pm (Spoken Word)
Sun Ra-Dreaming (instro)
Woody Leafer-Drums in My Typewriter (Weirdness sounds fucking with your
doper beatnik head Reverberated Percussion and Spoken Word; MUST BE STONED
TO DIG, dig ?)


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:26:54 EST


A good addition would be "My Rifle, My Pony and Me" from Rio Bravo.  It
finally made it to CD sometime in the last few years.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: VB: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 24 Mar 2000 03:37:59 +0100





As much as I appreciate the Benny Hill input, I really meant Benny Hinn.

Don't let that hinder you, though.

Cheers, Ton



 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:52:38 -0500


Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian?



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 20:32:09 -0800


At 10:52 PM 23-03-00 -0500, m.ace wrote:
>Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian?

You know, I have yet to see ANY from other religions...but somehow that
doesn't surprise me.  The whole Christian thing tends to want to dominate
everything it can, while other religions rest purely upon their beliefs.
Of course, I know that Christians do this because it is part of their
belief system, but it sure can get annoying (and often inadvertently
entertaining, too).

If we didn't have Christians, we wouldn't have people like Imus to make fun
of them (The Reverend Billy Saul Hargis of the Gooey House of Worship rot
here in Del Rio, Texas!  Say Alleleuiah!).

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Chuck Collazzi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 23:34:59 -0500


>Did Kathryn Kuhlman ever make any records?  Her odd, swooping delivery of
>sermons was something.

Did she ever!  Just happen to have a near-pristine copy of
An Hour With Kathryn Kuhlman            Logos M-120
She was a strange one!

Chuck C
[e-mail]
www.chucktfrog.com

>Brian Phillips

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mina
Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:04:26 -0800



----- Original Message -----

> Mina: Was she a co-host on some variety show in Italy in the mid 70's?  I
> lived in Italy at that time and me and all the kids in school all had the
> hots for her. Back then they called he La Mina.

I think she was too big by then, but she guested a lot, probably with
Rafaella Carra' (who is not worth pursuing.)

She was banned for years because she had a child out of wedlock. Then she
made a triumphant return and I believe she introduced the mini-gonna (mini
skirt). She was a real looker but became increasingly more bizarre with her
make up, clothes and then eventually her weight.

She still has a great voice.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Fw: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 13:14:56 -0800


OOps. Too much quoted text the 1st time.

----- Original Message -----
<[e-mail]>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 1:00 PM


> I always thought I didn't like Ernie, except for the time he fell for the
> "wicked city woman" on I Love Lucy ("I'm gonna vamp you!") but I think it
> was 1986 and I was seeing Keely Smith at the Venetian Room and Keely
> introduced him out of the audience. I groaned, because I couldn't stand
him
> and I was afraid it was going to take time away from Keely's already short
> set. Instead, I fell in love with him. he had a great voice and a big
stage
> presence and he actually loosened Keely up (buy me a drink sometime and
I'll
> tell you the nightmare story of being Keely's webmaster).
>
> Anyway, I agree he is swell.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephen W. Worth <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:30 PM
> Subject: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
>
>
> >
> > >Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:35:41 -0800 (PST)
> > >From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
> > >Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
> > >
> > >I am familiar with TEF, and do not like him.
> >
> > His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to take, but
> > his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen Tons"
> > are just about as hip as you can get.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Benny Hinn was Re: VB: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 23 Mar 2000 18:47:57 -0800



----- Original Message -----

> As much as I appreciate the Benny Hill input, I really meant Benny Hinn.

What is his story? He has the prettiest hair / helmet of any televangilist.
His accent in English strikes me as Italian but he looks like he could be
East Indian.

Musically, I love the propoganda strings that accompany his healing
services.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Fw: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 23 Mar 2000 20:51:35 -0800


Yes, I like Tennessee Ernie.  In fact, I have the complete Tennessee Ernie
Show on 16 inch transcription discs.  I would think there is at least one
good cut on each of his albums, though haven't bought enough of his records
to find out.  Certainly 16 Tons is great.  A Capitol promo record I have
married that song with Peggy Lee's Fever (a few bars of the one song
followed by a few of the other and back and forth).  There are some
interesting simularities.  The one I always liked was "The Pea Pickin' Cook
From Tennessee" (came out in the 70's...I played it several times in my
first stint as a DJ).  I seem to like recipe songs.  Ever heard
B-O-R-S-C-H-T by Peter Ostroushko?

I imagine one might be able to put together a full CD of Tennesssee Ernie's
most interesting songs.  Hello, Capitol!

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "claudia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 23 Mar 2000 21:07:35 -0800



> >Did Kathryn Kuhlman ever make any records?  Her odd, swooping delivery
of
> >sermons was something.
>
> Did she ever!  Just happen to have a near-pristine copy of
> An Hour With Kathryn Kuhlman            Logos M-120
> She was a strange one!

Man oh man do I remember her.
Saw her live in 1967-68,don't remember exactly.

It was at the Dorothy Chandler Pavillion in Los Angeles.

It was also about that time that there was talk about her and Dino.
Now there is a work of art !!

But anyway..
here is the kicker.
They passed around Col Sander's giant buckets for the collections.

And they announced over the loudspeakers "No change please "

I will never ever forget how dramatic she was..it was a site to behold.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Linds" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Space music
Date: 23 Mar 2000 22:53:13 -0800


Hi folks. I have a couple of requests....I need a list of Canadian bands
doing songs about outer space. Can be instrumental or vocal. Any ideas?
I would also like to pick the brains of all you wonderful people. Could you
list all your favorite outer space/moon/rocket/satellite/galaxy/etc.
recordings. It's for some radio work I'm doing and it  would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks.
Brian



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) more Dick Dale shows/READ THIS
Date: 24 Mar 2000 00:36:42 -0800


Dick Dale, The Challengers, The Chantays, The Lively Ones, The Belairs, The
Nocturnes, Jon & the Nightriders and Space Coffacks (that's the way they
spelled it in the L.A. Times... isn't it the Space Cossacks?) Anyway, this
show is happening on Sunday at the Galaxy Theatre, 3503 S. Harbor Blvd.,
Santa Ana, California, 8 p.m., $30 (to stand, I think) and $50 (to sit, and
you can order food if you sit.  Wo.)  [phone].
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund
Date: 24 Mar 2000 04:37:25 -0500


At 03:50 PM 3/23/00 -0800, Benito Vergara wrote:
>
>> Someday when I've got a CD burner and I've burned my way
>> through the
>> records I actually like, I'm going to burn a torturous compilation of hers
>> and then burn the records themselves in an oil drum outside.
>
>The subject header says it all. So Nat, if I contribute a few exotica bucks
>to the Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund, will you burn me a few CDs before you
>burn the records?

You don't have to send any money, exotica or otherwise.  Someday when I
have a little bit of money, I'm going to buy a good computer and then I'm
going to get a CD burner and I will definitely burn Little Marcy CD's since
I have...

1.  Little Marcy sings Sunday School Songs
2.  Marcy sings Sunday School Songs (same record, different cover)
3.  Marcy sings Jesus Loves Me
4.  Walking in the Sunshine with Little Marcy
5.  Favourite Songs and Choruses by Marcy
6.  Marcy sings Nursery Rhymes
7.  Little Marcy visits Smokey Bear (no "the", obviously a different bear)
plus...
"Some Golden Daybreak" with Lorin Whitney on organ, Bill MacDougall on
vocal AND Marcy Tigner on trombone.

So as you can see, that's WAY TOO MUCH MARCY.  But how can I get rid of
them until I somehow archive it for all time?
I once used one of her nursery rhymes "I love little pussy" on my answering
machine but then it was sampled and used by local hiphop artists and it
became old very fast.  Okay that was an exaggeration.

So if you want to someday get the ultimate Little Marcy CD - it really
should be a box set - you just have to stay on the list and someday your
wish will come true.
Just pray.  For as Little Marcy sings - in 1 minute and 33 seconds - "God
Can do anything but fail".

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 04:50:12 -0500


At 08:32 PM 3/23/00 -0800, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>At 10:52 PM 23-03-00 -0500, m.ace wrote:
>>Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian?
>
>You know, I have yet to see ANY from other religions...but somehow that
>doesn't surprise me.

Well it depends what you mean by religious records.  There are Jewish
records.  However I've yet to find a Jewish record that tried to shove
Judaism down the record buyer's throat....
Ooops, Sorry.  I let my prejudice show there.
There are Jewish records with famous Cantors and by
legends-in-their-own-congregations too, singing various prayers.  Or even
singing the entire Passover service.  Or singing my favourite Jewish blues
song, "Kol Nidre".
Jan Peerce also made records like this.
And Theodore Bikel did Jewish folk songs.
There are lots of Jewish comedy records.  Brian mentioned Mickey Katz.
He's highly recommended, even if you don't understand Yiddish.  His band
was shit hot in my prejudiced opinion.
Then there's The Barry Sisters.  Can't say enough about them.  Can't say
too much either.
The closest thing I have to a religious "lecture" record is "Abba Eban at
the U.N, June 6, 1967" which is the actual complete address delivered by
Abba Eban, Foreign Minister of Israel, before the Security Council of the
United Nations.. on that date.
But then again, Zionism and Judaism are NOT the same thing.  (Contrary to
what Muslimgauze would have you believe.)

Nat





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Space music
Date: 24 Mar 2000 04:52:46 -0500


At 10:53 PM 3/23/00 -0800, Brian Linds wrote:
>
>Hi folks. I have a couple of requests....I need a list of Canadian bands
>doing songs about outer space.

What about a Canadian country song about extra terrestrials?  I think he's
welcoming all et's that want to come to Alberta.
If that interests you, I'll fish it out.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 24 Mar 2000 04:54:19 -0500


At 12:26 PM 3/23/00 -0800, Ron Grandia wrote:
>And now to the question portion of today's post - Was the Song "Lesbian
>Seagull" as featured in the Beavis and Butthead Movie an actual song as I
>have heard some insist?  Or am I dreaming this too?

You're not dreaming but it does depend on what you mean by an "actual
song".  I have never heard the Beavis and Butthead version but I do have a
record by Tom Wilson called "Gay Name Game and other songs".  It's from
1979 and it appears he wrote all the songs on the record.
He reminds me a lot of Biff Rose, if that rings a bell.  And "Lesbian
Seagull" is by far the most twisted song on the record.
And hey, Billy Mure and Moe Wechsler play on the record.  Also someone
named Gary Mure, for you Mure family fans.

This is my fourth reply this morning.  Does that have anything to do with a
distressing call I got from a particular woman?  What does she mean by
"friends" anyway?

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jamie LePage <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie
Date: 24 Mar 2000 18:46:48 +0900


 [e-mail] wrote:

> > [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >what are some of the best Kahimi CD's - please post recommendations???
>
> I really like the one with "Mike Alway's Diary" and "Candyman" on
> it...Blissful 6T's derivative pop with that super-soft purring voice 'o'
> her's ..  JB/G-r-r-owl

Hey, JimmyB, I like this too. Candyman is a direct lift
>from "The Hustle." Very cool. This is the s/t US LP by
Kahimi on Minty Fresh. The CDNOW link that follows has
several sound clips if anyone is interested. It is a long
URL, so be careful of those pesky carriage returns!
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/ddcn=SD-9660+20+2/from=cr-6135437

For Kahimi fans, please note three imminent releases from
her Japanese label Polydor KK:

Release Date: March 29
Title: Once Upon a Time
Cat# POCH-1913
Notes: 5 song mini-album produced by Olivia Tremor Control

Release Date: April 26
Title: Journey to the Centre of Me
Cat# Unknown
Notes: mini-album produced by Momus

Release Date: May 24
Title: Tilt Vol. 2!!
Cat# Unknown
Notes: Brand new full length album, details unknown but
features guest artists including Arto Lindsay.

I have "Once Upon a Time" already, and it is rather
interesting, although not quite as cutesy as her s/t album.
Her voice is just as super-soft as ever, and Olivia Tremor
provide a strange enough ambient backing to compliment her
trademark vocal style.

For the real deal in super-soft purring, however, I just
gotta recommend the late 60s album Priscilla Loves Billy
by Priscilla Paris, a smoky collection of Billie Holiday
covers sung by Priscilla with a small jazz ensemble
including John Guerin on drums. A personal late-night tiki
room fave.

Regards to all,

Jamie
n.p. Misty Mirage, the brand new release of late 60s
recordings by Curt Boettcher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Space music
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:44:09 +0000


Brian Linds wrote:

> Hi folks. I have a couple of requests....I need a list of Canadian bands
> doing songs about outer space. Can be instrumental or vocal. Any ideas?
> I would also like to pick the brains of all you wonderful people. Could you
> list all your favorite outer space/moon/rocket/satellite/galaxy/etc.
> recordings. It's for some radio work I'm doing and it  would be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks.

Probably not quite what you're looking for but how about Rare Air's
album "Space Piper" (if bagpipes are your thing...)


Robbie

Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website
http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:47:17 +1100


on 24/3/00 2:52 PM, m.ace at [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian?
>
I have "The Science Of Mysticism" which is an intro to Rosicrucianism. It
lists on the back half a dozen more including children's stories and Rosa
Rio playing meditative organ music - these would be 1960's I guess. The
cover still smells strongly of incense!

I also have a double album of Swami Satchidananda which is mostly very
looooong answers to very short questions but includes some chanting and a
couple of great "hippy" songs. Swami is pictured on the back cover opening
Woodstock '69.

Philip

--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) RE: Religious Records 2 Favorites.
Date: 24 Mar 2000 06:09:33 EST


Excellent topic.  Two of my favorites are:

MIKE CRAIN - Karatist Preacher.
Yes, Mike Crain preaches the gospel along with his inbred, homely wife (who
also sings). But Mike also knows "kara-tay."  He is shown on the back during
the 1973 Super Bowl half-time show breaking ice with his head.  On the cover
he's giving the smackdown to a block of ice.  Contains a bunch of bad songs
and some good ol' preaching filled with karate euphamisms.

GERALDINE & RICKY - Trees Talk Too
Geraldine does ventriloquisim (to me the work of the devil) ON RECORD.  What
is the point?  The point is that the lovely Geraldine and her adult man-child
puppet Ricky do some super songs such as "Just A Closer Walk With Thee" with
both of them switching off lines."  If I am not mistaken, it also has some
dialogue about how to get right with god and how to not touch "Al-kee-hall."
Classic.  Here's a family picture from the sleeve:
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/he/hedcandy/rickyfamilypicture.jpg

Chris


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Buy-Nat-Kone-A-CD-Burner Fund
Date: 24 Mar 2000 07:04:01 EST


In a message dated 3/24/00 4:32:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I'm
 going to get a CD burner and I will definitely burn Little Marcy CD's since
 I have...

 1.  Little Marcy sings Sunday School Songs
 2.  Marcy sings Sunday School Songs (same record, different cover)
 3.  Marcy sings Jesus Loves Me >>
       etc . . . . .

And how about the seldom heard Little Marcy's "Songs of The Brit Milah"?

I understand it is quite exotic, as there are screaming sounds in the
background.

TB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 24 Mar 2000 05:36:49 -0800 (PST)


To this I must confess, I have not heard either the LP
Ol' Rockin' Ern or the rock and roll soundtrack he was
included on (High School Confidential?). I have heard
these are not bad. I suppose I was traumatized by
Dad's record collection..........

--- "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> His "How Great Thou Art" albums are a bit hard to
> take, but
> his earlier hits like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Sixteen
 Tons"
 are just about as hip as you can get.

 See ya
Steve


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:31:45 -0500


While I don't think I ever made it all the way through _Flight
FINAL_, I absolutely agree you can hear some startling shit on
religious records.

Whenever the WORD label (or whoever) put out a record there was an
implied promise: "These people are on The Right Side."  So even if
the concept was a little, er. . .  eccentric, the thing still sold
copies.

But just to bring it back around to exotica, does anyone else have
the religious album by Alvino Rey--the steel guitar genius who put
the "Zhwiiing" sounds in Esquivel's records? It's called _Refreshing
Melodies_ (Sacred Productions, Waco Texas).

Unless you are really up on your hymns, it's not that overtly
Christian. . . just Ralph Carmichael conducting very lush string
backgrounds behind Alvino, who does a bunch of "restful" selections
(including a couple of Hawaiian ones). Nice big cover photo of the
60-ish Alvino doing his thing on a Fender console.

It's actually one of the most relaxing records I own. . .


>Was the Song "Lesbian
>Seagull" as featured in the Beavis and Butthead Movie an actual song as I
>have heard some insist?  Or am I dreaming this too?

Don't know about the song--but biology-wise, aren't the "gay gulls" for real?

cheers,
  --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 24 Mar 2000 05:47:19 -0800 (PST)


I don't know about records, but I was at a meeting in
NC earlier this month and a couple of people started
talking about this person. After the off-topic ice was
broken, we all began to share our memories. There
seems to be a secret brotherhood of Hinn fans (next to
Reverend Bob, he was the most amusing of them all).

--- Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Speaking of toads, did Benny Hinn do any records?


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:05:11 -0500


At 04:50 AM 3/24/00 -0500, you wrote:

There is an Al Jolson record of him singing something in Hebrew, but I can
never remember the name.  It's the only one I want by him.  There is a
website that also features Yusuf Islam's (the former Cat Stevens, whose
birth name wa...AIIIEEEE!) music but you have to sign up for it
http://catstevens.com/multimedia/audiovideo.html

It probably isn't funny, but I got a bit of a smile when I saw one of the
interviews was "Yusuf Islam from the Dolly Parton Treasures special".

There was a record on Lyrichord, I believe, which was music of the Bene
Luluwa, which I believe was one of the influences on the Talking Heads'
Remain in Light album.  Another album (and I don't remember ANY details!)
which was Ethiopian in origin sounded very similar to the parts of the
Catholic Mass I have heard.  Ah, the joys of the similarities!

It's not entirely religious, but there are some striking songs on the
Moving Star Hall Singers LP on Folkways.  The Gullah (indigenous to the
islands off of South Carolina) accent is hard to understand at times, but
it comes with a lyric sheet.

A friend of mine told me that Chano Pozo, the famous Cuban drummer and a
pioneer of the Afro-Cuban Jazz genre, ran afoul of the some of the
followers of Santeria, who believed that he was using some of the sacred
rhythms, so by extension, I suppose that I may have been listening to
religiously influenced music then!

Do Yma Sumac's albums The Legend of the Sun Virgin and Legend of the Jivaro
count in some way?

Lastly (and are we not all relieved!?) I would like to mention Exuma, The
Obeah Man.  He was from the Bahamas and sang of zombies and how he was born
on a lightning bolt.  His second album even features a zombie revival!

By the way, here is a simple key:

Benny Hinn
http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/resource/benhinn.htm

Benny Hill
http://www.vgernet.net/tpelkey/bennyhill/

Ben E. King
http://www.castboy.com/beneking.html

Jack Benny
http://members.aol.com/VARTOX/benny.htm

Bunny Wailer
http://www.furious.com/perfect/bunny.html

Benihana
http://www.arubadining.com/benihana.html

Boney M
http://www.fuzzlogic.com/argus/b/Boney_M.shtml


I hope this clears up any confusion.

Brian "A Christian who's going to have a LOT of explaining to do in a
couple of days" Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Mina
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:34:20 +0000


> > Domenic Ciccone (howdy to your Pa; are you the uncle to little Maria Lourdes?!) asked:
>
> > Mina: Was she a co-host on some variety show in Italy in the mid 70's?  I
> > lived in Italy at that time and me and all the kids in school all had the
> > hots for her. Back then they called he La Mina.

Steve "Mr. Lucky" Sando replied:

> I think she was too big by then, but she guested a lot, probably with
> Rafaella Carra' (who is not worth pursuing.)
> She was banned for years because she had a child out of wedlock. Then she
> made a triumphant return and I believe she introduced the mini-gonna (mini
> skirt). She was a real looker but became increasingly more bizarre with her
> make up, clothes and then eventually her weight.
> She still has a great voice.

Mina is without any doubt (that's not what I personally think, it is
agreed by each and every one Italian music lover) the most beautiful
voice that ever came out of a female Italian throat in the last 40
years.
She started as "Baby Gate" in the late fiftes, covering the current
hits onto Italian language. Then she became Mina, and scored hits
over hits over hits. She retired from the scenes in the seventies and
left for Switzerald (just over the border); she's not making a public
appereance from 25 years, but her records still come
regualry out and go straight to n.1, without any promotion.
She is a real character and very strong personality. Actually she
writes for some newspapers and airs on public radio from time to
time. She uses to insert on her records some songs from unknown
writers, songs that they receive as demos to her.
She just turned 60 yesterday, but evryone here stiil refers to her
60's image, when she was the queen of national TV.
Her voice is so powerful, intense and skillful that makes Dionne
Warwick sound outta tune.
You gotta love her.
Ciao
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 06:34:22 -0800 (PST)


Ahh, Rat Stevens. I have not had very much in a kind
way to say about that turd ever since he voiced his
support of the hit put out on Salman Rushdie for
offending the sensibilities of pious folks.

I don't know if Mickey Katz or Yma Sumac (etc)
recorded religious music. To me, Mickey Katz was more
ethnic parody, good-humored, and accompanied by great
music, and Yma Sumac's song myths an instance of
exotica (like Les Baxter's Sacred Idol and probably
other better examples I can't think of at the moment).
I may be alone in this - I find "religious records" to
be typically Christian, self-righteous, freakish - and
if they consciously attempt humor or cuteness, it
comes off like something out of a bad flashback (cf.
Charlie the hamster, Little Marcy). When I listen to
Merrill Womack, it's not because of his beautiful
operatic voice, but because his face looks like
something they removed from Mr Reagan's fundament and
I listen to Benny Dean not because I pine for the
sounds that filled truckstops across the country in
the 70s, but because he'd rather be blind than hanging
out with drunks and junkies and stealing cars (you
know, like those are the only options). In short,
religious records can only be enjoyed when listened to
perversely, that is, contrary to the manner in which
the "artist" hoped the message would be received. That
said, I will see you all in hell.
--- Brian Phillips <[e-mail]> wrote:

> There is an Al Jolson record of him singing
> something in Hebrew, but I can
> never remember the name.  It's the only one I want
> by him.  There is a
> website that also features Yusuf Islam's (the former
 Cat Stevens,

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the paisano rollcall
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:47:09 +0000


The current posting about Italian pop makes me want to ask something
I've always wanted to post about but somehow never did.
I have noticed through the years many listers bearing Italian last
names.
How many are you? I believe it's a majority!
Just the first who come to mind:
Vaccaro
Ciccone
Collazzi
Lo Bue
Vicentelli
Botticelli
Vergara
Tepedino (spanish?)

Others?
Ciao paisani.
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Smokey (was The Buy-Nat-Kone...)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 07:02:24 -0800


>7.  Little Marcy visits Smokey Bear (no "the", obviously a different bear)

No, same bear.  The official name of the forest fire mascot *is* Smokey
Bear, not Smokey the Bear.  This is one of those items whose name has
been "corrupted" by the public over many decades.  Confirmed by this
official website run by Smokey's backers, The Ad Council:

www.smokeybear.com

Print publications obtained through the Forest Service also confirm his
name to be "Smokey Bear".

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ed Lincoln Page
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:11:04 -0000


Its put to shame by Keths lovely F&T site,  but I gotta plug it:

I finally got my page on the Great Ed Lincoln up and in an acceptable state,
for anyone who I haven't done a tape I will explain:  Ed Lincoln was the
'other' great Samba Organist of the 60's alongside Walter Wanderley.  His
style is a little more off the wall than Wanderleys.  I love his records and
I'm on a mission to spread the word.

I can't actually find out much about him (my Portuguese is non-existent) but
with the help of lurker Christian Courtis and some lucky finds I've put
together some sleeve scans and a bit of biography, but more importantly I've
managed to get streaming working from a friends site.

The track I've got on there is 'O ganso' which is the first thing I heard,
and its barmy,  Kazoos and Trumpets and wordless vocals and the organ.

I'd recommend it for all the other listers who can't pass up organ LP's.

have a good weekend


El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Jean Howard
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:11:39 -0500


March 24, 2000
Jean Howard, the House Photographer for
Hollywood's Glamour Set, Dies at 89
By DOUGLAS MARTIN, NYTimes
Jean Howard, who rode the comet of her extraordinary beauty,
ethereal glamour and insouciant intelligence to become a Ziegfeld
girl, a Hollywood starlet, a legendary hostess and the house
photographer of the film colony, died at her home in Beverly Hills, Calif.,
on Monday. She was 89.

Ms. Howard's circle included Tyrone Power, Vivien Leigh, Laurence
Olivier, Humphrey Bogart, Lauren Bacall, Jennifer Jones, Merle Oberon,
Gary Cooper, Marlene Dietrich, Greta Garbo, Judy Garland and Marilyn
Monroe -- impressive company for the daughter of a traveling salesman.
She thrived in a seemingly ancient time when stars socialized for purposes
other than publicity, including simply enjoying each other's company.

They played croquet in matches that lasted years (with timeouts for rest,
refreshment and the occasional movie), played on California beaches and
hung out in Palm Beach, Palm Springs and the south of France. They also
mingled at Ms. Howard's Spanish-style home on Coldwater Canyon
Drive in Beverly Hills; she and her first husband, Charles K. Feldman,
who used his success as the first super-agent to become a producer,
bought it for $18,000 in 1942.

Everywhere, Ms. Howard snapped pictures. One shows Gene Tierney,
then a top star at 20th Century Fox, in pigtails, looking longingly into the
handsome face of the mysterious millionaire Howard Hughes. Another
shows a tipsy Richard Burton kissing everyone in sight, including a
less-than-charmed Clifton Webb.

Still another shows Dietrich almost touching heads with Ann Warner,
wife of Jack, the studio head, as they intensely discussed
never-to-be-known secrets over a smoky table at the Trocadero
nightclub in Los Angeles. Linda Christian can be seen being fitted for her
wedding gown to marry Tyrone Power.

Many of these photographs were stored in shoe boxes. Meanwhile, Ms.
Howard studied photography and began to get assignments taking
pictures for magazines like Life and Vogue. Years later, the idea
coalesced to combine her snapshots and professional work in a picture
book.

In 1989, Harry N. Abrams published "Jean Howard's Hollywood: A
Photo Memoir." James Watters wrote the text, which is delivered
through Ms. Howard's first-person voice. The book evokes a lost world
where stars lived lives that were breathtakingly glamorous, but still
somehow life-sized.

In the pictures, everyone, it seems, is smoking. Everyone is holding a
drink, everyone is dressed in black tie or cocktail dress. People gather
around the piano and sing. Conga lines end up in swimming pools.

"These photographs bring back memories of a time and a place that have
long since faded," Ms. Howard wrote in the book's introduction.
"Hollywood has changed and things don't happen as they once did.
Never mind. The people who crowd these pages are clear as
snowcapped mountains on a bright sunny day."

Ms. Howard was born Ernestine Hill in Longview, Tex., and grew up in
Dallas. She became acquainted with a local photographer, who had
discovered several child stars, including Ginger Rogers, and believed she
had a bright future. So she changed her last name to that of the
photographer, Mahoney, even though her father continued to foot the
bills for her fashion shows and beauty contests.

Her father took her to Hollywood one summer in the late 1920's. "I was
his coverup while he was on a two-week toot with a girlfriend behind my
stepmother's back," she said in the book.

She soon returned to Hollywood and checked into the all-girl Studio
Club, founded by Mary Pickford to help young hopefuls working toward
movie careers. In 1930 she landed a contract with Metro Goldwyn
Mayer, appearing first as a chorus girl in "Whoopee," Eddie Cantor's
Broadway musical hit.

Florenz Ziegfeld, who had produced the Broadway show and was a
partner in the film, asked her and three other showgirls to go to New
York for his next musical, "Smiles." Ziegfeld cast her under the name
Jean Howard, which he deemed less cumbersome than Ernestine
Mahoney. She got a part in the last "Ziegfeld Follies," where one review
cited her "pulchritude, figure and charm."

As an MGM contract player she had small roles in a number of movies in
the 1930's and 1940's, including "Broadway to Hollywood" and "The
Prizefighter and the Lady." The studio chief Louis B. Mayer, passionately
attracted to her, proposed marriage and promised to divorce his wife.
She said later that when she rejected him he got drunk and tried to throw
himself out of a window.

She became engaged to Feldman, a lawyer and film agent, who is
credited with being the first to sell director, actors and other talent as a
single package. According to The New York Times of Aug. 26, 1934,
the two had attended a Friday night dinner party at the Colony restaurant
in New York and decided to get married immediately.

Mayer's jealous threat to torpedo Feldman's career did not materialize,
and the agent went on to play an increasingly prominent role in
Hollywood, eventually producing "A Streetcar Named Desire," in 1951,
among other films.

The couple had a famously tempestuous relationship, which resulted in a
divorce in 1948. But they continued living in the same house, with its
tortoise shell pedestals and Chinese porcelain lamps and a garden room
where Judy Garland belted out songs on many occasions. They called it
their "can't live with you, can't live without you postmarital relationship."

In a 1989 interview with The San Diego Union-Tribune, Ms. Howard
said she "wanted to be the other woman in his life."

Ms. Howard traveled extensively, often with her friend Cole Porter. That
resulted in another picture book, "Travels With Cole Porter," published in
1991.

In 1964, she felt seasick on a Mediterranean cruise and got off the yacht
in Capri. She went to a nightclub called Number Two, where a band
called the Shakers was playing. She asked a band member, Tony
Santoro, if he would play a song she had written. He did, though not
necessarily because of its quality.

"I was more interested in this beautiful woman than the music," he said in
a telephone interview. They lived together for nine years, mainly in Capri
and Rome, and were married in 1973. He is her only immediate survivor.

Ms. Howard once said that "glamour is flimsy." She knew the stars as
people, including one of her favorite subjects, Marilyn Monroe. "She
didn't know who she was or who she belonged to," Ms. Howard told the
San Diego paper. "The marriages never gave her anything to go on.
There was the ballplayer (Joe DiMaggio) and Arthur Miller.

"Miller was a very good writer and all of that, but I have never seen him
in anybody's living room, and I have been in a few living rooms."

Then there was the party she gave for Senator John F. Kennedy during
the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles, at which he won his
party's nomination. After everyone had left and she was cleaning up, she
heard someone scratching at the window screen, according to a 1993
article in Town & Country.

She looked out and saw Kennedy, who said, "I'm starving and nothing's
open at this hour." She led him to the kitchen and fed him scrambled
eggs. She said the senator then pulled her to him and kissed her. She told
the magazine that people would have to read her autobiography to find
out what happened.

But she never published one.
--
L.A. Times --- Thursday, March 23, 2000
Jean Howard; Ziegfeld Girl Became Hollywood Hostess and Photographer
By MYRNA OLIVER, Times Staff Writer
Jean Howard, who rose from humble Texas obscurity to become a
Ziegfeld girl, a starlet and the wife of powerful Hollywood agent
Charles K. Feldman, and who established herself as a legendary hostess
and photographer of the film colony, has died. She was 89.
Howard died Tuesday in the home on Beverly Hills' Coldwater Canyon
Drive that she and Feldman bought in 1942 for $18,000.
Decorated by William Haines, a silent film star turned interior
decorator, the Spanish-style house with deep green walls, tortoise-shell
pedestals and Chinese porcelain lamps has changed little since it
welcomed such luminaries as Greta Garbo, Tyrone Power, Laurence Olivier,
Humphrey Bogart, Merle Oberon, Marlene Dietrich, Judy Garland, Bugsy
Siegel and John F. Kennedy.
Howard, a striking beauty, showed little interest in becoming a
film star, although her longtime friend, director Curtis Harrington,
said Wednesday that she easily could have done so. But Howard came to
wield power over Hollywood as a favorite hostess and photographer. She
turned her intimate portraits into two well-received books, "Jean
Howard's Hollywood" in 1989 and "Travels With Cole Porter" in 1991.
"I think of Hollywood as a person," Howard told The Times shortly
before the first book was published, showcasing her photos from the
1930s to the 1960s. "In the '30s, Hollywood was still sort of a teenager
and was still growing up in the '40s. Hollywood came into its own in the
'50s--really achieved its maturity. I call them the Nifty '50s."
Howard saw it all.
The pretty girl named Ernestine Mahoney (some sources list her real
name as Ernestine Hill) arrived from Longview, Texas, in 1930, and
quickly won a role in Ziegfeld's "Follies." She became one of the first
of the chorines called the Goldwyn Girls, and soon was an MGM contract
player with small roles in several films in the 1930s and
1940s--"Broadway to Hollywood," "The Prizefighter and the Lady,"
"Dancing Lady," "Break of Hearts," "We're on the Jury," "Claudia" and
"The Bermuda Mystery."
Louis B. Mayer's passionate attraction to Howard (she changed her
name quickly) became Hollywood legend. She enjoyed telling the story of
how he proposed marriage, promising to divorce his wife, and, when she
rejected him, got drunk and tried to throw himself out of a window.
After she married Feldman in 1934, the jealous Mayer banned the agent
from his studio and threatened to ruin him in Hollywood.
With decorator Haines' help, Howard threw a truly lavish party in
1938 to prove that the Feldmans were far from down and out.
Years later, Howard's connection to the Kennedy family was cemented
when the future president's sister, Pat Lawford, called her saying that
John F. Kennedy was in town for the 1960 Democratic National Convention
and wanted to see some Hollywood people, and the Lawford home was far
too small. Howard hastily assembled 60 members of the movie industry
elite and threw a party for Kennedy that lasted until 4 a.m. After it
ended, she was straightening up when she heard a scratch at the screen.
It was Kennedy, saying he was starving and every place in Los Angeles
was closed. Howard took him into her kitchen and scrambled some eggs,
and they talked till dawn.
Howard last saw Kennedy when she was invited to a White House
dinner in 1962. He asked her to photograph him, but he was killed before
she got the chance.
"When people ask me if I have any regrets," she told Town and
Country magazine in 1993, "that's one."
From her early days in Hollywood, Howard benefited from her close
friendship with Linda Porter, the wife of composer Cole Porter. It was
from Linda Porter that she learned how to dress, how to serve simple
food for small lunches, how to manage giant parties, how to be a friend
to the famous. After Linda's death in the mid-1950s, Howard talked Cole
Porter into traveling. She accompanied him, and the photographs she took
in 1955 and 1956 ultimately resulted in her second book.
"The book doubles as a travelogue and a memoir of a 33-year
friendship," a Times review noted after it was published in 1991. "It
also reads as an essay on privilege. The high style that Porter traveled
in was astounding. . . .
"[But] only half the book is about him," the reviewer continued.
"Roughly 50% of it is given over to pictures and explanations of
European landmarks and the contents of European museums."
Howard, who studied photography at the Art Center in Los Angeles in
the 1940s, became competent at her craft. But reviews of her books and
her work on Hollywood sets for Life and Vogue magazines in the 1950s
lavish the greatest praise on Howard's ability to get intimately close
to her subjects when they were relaxed and doing anything but posing
formally. Her insider status far outweighed her portraiture.
"Howard's great skill," a Times reviewer wrote of the Cole Porter
book, "was clearly her talent for friendship with highly accomplished
and rather difficult people."
Howard sued Feldman for divorce in 1946 with Hollywood's,
celebrated attorney Jerry Geisler representing her, and formally won the
divorce in 1948. But both Howard and Feldman continued to live in their
fabled house and attend and give parties together, maintaining what one
observer called their "can't live with you, can't live without you
postmarital relationship" until his death in 1968.
Howard, who inherited a fortune in jewels from both Linda and Cole
Porter, lived for a decade on the Italian island of Capri, where she
married her second husband, Italian musician Tony Santoro, who survives.
Ensconced in her Beverly Hills home again for the past couple of
decades, Howard and Santoro continued entertaining until near the end of
her life.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:21:06 -0600




[e-mail] wrote:
>
> At 10:52 PM 23-03-00 -0500, m.ace wrote:
> >Soooo, what about religious records from faiths *other* than Christian?
>
> You know, I have yet to see ANY from other religions...but somehow that
> doesn't surprise me.  The whole Christian thing tends to want to dominate
> everything it can, while other religions rest purely upon their beliefs.
> Of course, I know that Christians do this because it is part of their
> belief system, but it sure can get annoying (and often inadvertently
> entertaining, too).

I think it's because Christianity, in the US at least,
has become a pop culture phenomenon. Plus, "Christian
records" are not the same as liturgical music - music used
for a specifically religious purpose, and not music *about*
religion. The only parallel I can think of is that sometimes
you see Hindu gods in Bollywood movies (I think - I've never
seen on all the way through).  Or those cheap Buddhas you
can buy in Chinatown.

--

Kerry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:28:23 -0500


Well, there was that use of Tibetan Buddhist monk chants to try to drive
David Karresh and followers out of the compound in Waco. Not to diss the
monks, but wish it had worked. Score another for the ATF and FBI.

Probably the strangest Record as Religious Object in my collection is
entitled something like "Gwuindon Sings of the Goddess," neopagan folky
music with a lots of Celtic influences. Couldn't find it. If anyone must
know more about this record, contact me, I'll send you particulars. There
there's the hippie Hinduism of the Incredible String Band--many tunes on
several albums about the joys and heartbreaks of the spiritual quest. The
ISB never backed away from an opportunity to strain their voices. Islamic
stuff? "The Perfumed Garden," read by Chiitra Neogy on Pulsar. Ms. Neogy
reads excerpts from the medieval Persian erotic manual, "designed to help
human beings to achieve the fullest joy in their sexual lives. As such, it
is a work of reverence and praise to God." I particularly like from this
record the Hindu, not Muslim, Bengali poem, "Krishna and the Lovely
Cowgirls." But only because it appeals to my roots as kin of Nevada
ranchers. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:27:39 -0500


At 09:05 AM 3/24/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote:
>
>At 04:50 AM 3/24/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>There is an Al Jolson record of him singing something in Hebrew, but I can
>never remember the name.  It's the only one I want by him.

Hmmm, that's interesting.  If indeed it's Hebrew that he's singing, then it
would almost have to be a prayer.  I'm speculating thusly because at the
time Jolson did most of his recording, Hebrew was really only the language
of the Bible and the prayer books.  Yiddish was the language of the people
and of the songs.
So if it WAS a prayer, it would kinda make sense that it might be "Kol
Nidre" which I mentioned in my post.  Which is also the "tune" he sang in
"The Jazz Singer" or at least, it's the tune Neil Diamond sang in the remake.
Though I have virtually no interest in ever going to synagogue again, I
still have chilling memories of Cantor Cooper's voice as he began to sing
that prayer each year.

Speaking of which, didn't the Electric Prunes - or someone like em - do
some kinda Kol Nidre suite?  It was that or some long Jewish prayer.
And Spirit also did a Jewish prayer on one of their records, maybe even
Dr.Sardonicus.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:43:07 -0500


At 06:34 AM 3/24/00 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote:
>
> In short,
>religious records can only be enjoyed when listened to
>perversely, that is, contrary to the manner in which
>the "artist" hoped the message would be received. That
>said, I will see you all in hell.

It was clear to me, when you first brought up this topic, that you were
referring to warped sermons, proselytizing and twisted stuff like Little
Marcy.
As opposed to any record that is rooted in religion or more specifically
Christianity.
Having said that and now that most of us have mentioned our favourite crap,
I feel like I can mention the fact that some music is so inherently
beautiful that it doesn't matter what the message is.
I really don't like to hear anything about Jesus - or anything Christian -
but in spite of that, I love Blind Willie Johnson, a lot of gospel, the
Staple Singers, a lot of old-timey hillbilly singers like Alfred Karnes,
Ernest Stoneman or Ernest Phipps and his Holiness Quartet, Curtis Mayfield
etc. etc.
But especially Blind Willie.
And now we can talk about the way religious fervour translated so well to
sexual fervour and helped create r&b and r&r.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the paisano rollcall
Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:52:43 +0100



>The current posting about Italian pop makes me want to ask something
>I've always wanted to post about but somehow never did.
>I have noticed through the years many listers bearing Italian last
>names.
>How many are you? I believe it's a majority!


>Others?


Not here, I belong to the German splinter group.

Am Dutch of German descent with heavy Nordic input,
so to speak, and, eventually, a faded African.

Cheers, Ton


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) AA nominated Original Film Scores
Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:13:59 -0500


It's so rare to find Original Film Scores mentioned, let alone
reviewed, in the general media, that when it happens it's worth
noting. NPR's Sunday morning magazine show has already reviewed
4 scores up for Academy Award nominations. There are RealAudio links
to those segments, if you'd like to hear 'em.
-Lou
[e-mail]
----
Oscar Music I -- We begin our annual series on this year's Academy Award nominees for best
original film score. NPR's Andy Trudeau once again joins Liane to discuss this year's field.
Today, they listen to excerpts from Gabriel Yared's score to The Talented Mr. Ripley(Sony
Classical SK 51337) and Rachel Portman's score to The Cider House Rules(Sony Classical
SK 89031). 17:32
http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/wesun/20000312.wesun.14.rmm
----
Oscar Music II -- Our annual series on this year's Academy Award nominees for best original
film score continues as NPR's Andy Trudeau joins Liane to listen to excerpts from John
William's score to Angela's Ashes (Sony Classical SK 890009) and Thomas Newman's music
for American Beauty(Dreamworks 0044-50233-2). 17:32
http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/wesun/20000319.wesun.15.rmm
---
On the next show (Sunday) Andy Trudeau reviews
music from The Red Violin, and he'll present
his pick for this year's Best Dramatic Score.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious Records......
Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:56:38 -0500


Can you imagine dubbing a fire 'n brimstone sermon over a Tipsy orchestrati=
on???

Whoa!

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:36:51 -0800


One more I just thought of, though I'm personally reluctant to lump
comedy records in with "religious" records, even when they include humor
on the subject of religion:

Jackie Mason's "The World According to Me".  This was one of those
flexible 45's that came attached to the innards of his small book of the
same title.  Unfortunately, the 45 never played well due to its
flexibility/thinness, etc. and the book eventually was given to charity
after I was finished with it.  A good read, though, if you are a fan of
Jackie Mason's comedy!

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:45:53 -0800 (PST)




--- Nat Kone <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I feel like I can mention the fact that some music
> is so inherently
> beautiful that it doesn't matter what the message
> is.

I wonder if 2nd lady Gore has learned this lesson....


> And now we can talk about the way religious fervour
> translated so well to
> sexual fervour and helped create r&b and r&r.

Excellent idea. Though sexual fervor is probably what
put the energy in all that old time religion to begin
with. Sublimation and all that (not to get back on
creeds without any sense of humor). R&R and R&B was
perhaps so demonized because it was a stark
realization of the fact that alot of what was going on
in southern protestantism (not too familiar with
various sects) was influenced by the cultural
confluence of blacks and whites. R&R as a sort of raw,
secular/sexual epiphany, made it obvious: sexuality
stepped out its vestments, and was practiced and
celebrated by fervid youths, black and white, in close
proximity. Oops, I think I'm outlining a faulkner
novel here....

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 09:52:36 -0800


B.J. ([e-mail]) wrote in part:

> Jackie Mason's "The World According to Me".  This was one of those
> flexible 45's that came attached to the innards of his small book of the
> same title.  Unfortunately, the 45 never played well due to its
> flexibility/thinness, etc. and the book eventually was given to charity
> after I was finished with it.  A good read, though, if you are a fan of
> Jackie Mason's comedy!

This is an interesting topic - flexible 33s (very small) and 45s that were
found inside magazines in the late 60s. The main one that I remember was in
a later 1969 National Geographic that had sounds taken from the Apollo 11
mission. National Geographic did several others as I recall. Does anyone
collect these things?

Erik
--
Erik Hoel                                   mailto:[e-mail]
Environmental Systems Research Institute      http://www.esri.com
380 New York Street                    909-793-2853 (x1-1548) tel
Redlands, CA  92373-8100                         909-307-3067 fax



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Emil Richards: "Stones" lp
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:18:33 +0100


was "reissued" as bootleg 2-fer, in 1996 i think, together with
Hal Blaine's "Psychedelic Percussion", that sounds a bit similar.

"Psychedelic Percussion" is brilliant: psychedelic exotica, with tons of
percussion instruments run through special effects.

"Stones" also features exotic percussion and electronics. it's not
experimental music though. short tracks, with a weird kind off "pop"
feeling.

both seem to be quite rare... don't know how much $$ 'd pay for it, now
that i have a $16 boot cd...


        Johan

        -----


At 15:38 -0700 2000/03/21, exotica-digest wrote:
>From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica)
>
>Anyone have "Stones" by Emil Richards? Is it worth paying big $$ for?
>What is it similar too?
>
>Anyone know if it has been re-released, legitimately or otherwise?
>
>any help here appreciated.
>thanks
>jbrouwer





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:04:18 -0500


Erik Hoel <[e-mail]> wrote:
>This is an interesting topic - flexible 33s (very small) and 45s that were
found inside magazines in the late 60s.
 Does anyone collect these things?
--------
There're people who collect string, so of course there are people
who collect flexis:
http://www.wfmu.org/MACrec/

There should be a prize for anyone who can name something
which is not collected by someone in this wide weird world!

-Lou
[e-mail]




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:26:58 -0500


>A friend of mine told me that Chano Pozo, the famous Cuban drummer and a
>
>Do Yma Sumac's albums The Legend of the Sun Virgin and Legend of the Jivaro
>count in some way?

How about Coltrane's "A Love Supreme"?

Or Blind Willie Johnson (Nat, at least, will know him)?


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Vist Lil' Markie (sick n twisted Religious record)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:27:16 EST


Listen to Lil' Markie at:

http://www.metro.net/basichip/markie.htm

The downloadable, four and a half minute MP3 file of "Diary Of An Unborn
Child" is around 1890kb in size.

Warning!  If you are sensitive, this could be offensive to you.

Cover available for viewing too.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records and bennies
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:31:43 -0800 (PST)



Speaking of Bennies and fervor, let's remember

Benny Joy

http://www.rockabillyhall.com/JRAB.html

Benny Hinn
http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/resource/benhinn.htm

 Benny Hill
 http://www.vgernet.net/tpelkey/bennyhill/

 Ben E. King
 http://www.castboy.com/beneking.html

 Jack Benny
 http://members.aol.com/VARTOX/benny.htm
Bunny Wailer
http://www.furious.com/perfect/bunny.html

Benihana
http://www.arubadining.com/benihana.html

Boney M
http://www.fuzzlogic.com/argus/b/Boney_M.shtml


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:35:19 -0800 (PST)


Or Haendel's Messiah and Kansas's Dust in the Wind?



> How about Coltrane's "A Love Supreme"?

> Or Blind Willie Johnson (Nat, at least, will know
> him)?


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Mark Kingsley <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 11:39:34 -0800 (PST)


I don't collect flexible records but I know they were
still around into the '80s.  In 1988 or '89 McDonald's
had a promotion where they included a flexidisc in the
Sunday newspaper and you had to listen to it to see if
you won a million dollars.  The premise was that if
the chorus could sing the "McDonald's Menu Song"
successfully from start to finish the listener would
win.   The menu song's lyrics consisted of every item
on the McDonald's menu and the singers got through
every item just fine before messing up on "I love
Mcdonalds good time great taste can I get this all at
one place?"  Damn amateurs.  I think still have the
record around somewhere.

oh yeah, the Recording Industry Association of America
included a flexidisc in their 1998 (yes, '98) annual
report.

Regards,

Mark


--- Erik Hoel <[e-mail]> wrote:

> This is an interesting topic - flexible 33s (very
> small) and 45s that were
> found inside magazines in the late 60s. The main one
> that I remember was in
> a later 1969 National Geographic that had sounds
> taken from the Apollo 11
> mission. National Geographic did several others as I
> recall. Does anyone
> collect these things?

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, March 26
Date: 24 Mar 2000 14:43:03 -0500


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #88   Kinda Funky

Alan Parker:  Punch Bowl  "The Sound Gallery"
The Duke Of Burlington:  Black Panther  "Indian Fig"
Lalo Schifrin:  Quiet Village  "Black Widow"
Henry Mancini:  Pick Up The Pieces  "Symphonic Soul"

The Inner Thumb:  Soul Ecstasy  "Soul Ecstasy"
Synthesonic Sounds:  Superfly  "The Easy Project: 20 Loungecore
Favourites"
Curtis Mayfield:  Pusherman  "Superfly"

Resonance:  O.K. Chicago  "Stereo Ultra"
Mandingo:  Black Rite  "The Sound Gallery"
Jerry Van Rooyen:  The Great Bank Robbery  "At 250 Miles Per Hour"
Herbie Hancock:  Bring Down The Birds  "FSUK 3"

The Commodores:  Brick House  "FSUK 4"
Brian Bennett:  Boogie Juice  "The Sound Gallery"
The Saint Orchestra:  Funko  "House Of Loungecore"
Ray McVay:  Kinda Kinky  "The Easy Project: 20 Loungecore Favourites"


Thanks for reading.


[e-mail]
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:03:02 -0500


MAD magazine published a "Super Special" with a flexi that had Alfred's =
mug on the disc - the audio was a graduation day, and comments by =
attending parents: "My God, he's wearing his sneakers!" and stuff like =
that.......I probably still have it.

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 24 Mar 2000 12:04:19 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>I imagine one might be able to put together a full CD of
>Tennesssee Ernie's most interesting songs.  Hello, Capitol!

There is a "best of" in the Capitol "Vintage Collections"
series, but I prefer his classic album...

Tennessee Ernie Ford "Sixteen Tons" CDP7243-8-33833-2-0

Sixteen Tons / Shot-Gun Boogie / Bright Lights and Blonde
Haired Women / The Cry of the Wild Goose / Milk 'em in
the Morning Blues / Catfish Boogie / Mule Train / Smokey
Mountain Boogie / Philadelphia Lawyer / Country Junction /
Anticipation Blues / Blackberry Boogie

The earlier the better with Tennessee Ernie. There are a
couple of incredible CDs of live broadcasts of country TV
shows from the early fifties that have great stuff with him
as well as a collection of early stuff that doesn't cross
over with "Sixteen Tons" called "Tennessee Ernie Ford and
Friends: Farmyard Boogie" (See For Miles SEE CD 262) There's
a great duet with Kay Starr on the Bear Family Speedy West
Jimmy Bryant box set too.

Have fun!

See ya
Steve


      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 14:27:43 -0600




Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> MAD magazine published a "Super Special" with a flexi that had Alfred's mug on the disc - the audio was a graduation day, and comments by attending parents: "My God, he's wearing his sneakers!" and stuff like that.......I probably still have it.

MAD had a ton of flexis - I believe some of them fetch
a high price these days.  I remember the disco one -
"Clap, clap, clap / Clap to the disco beat".  I wish
I'd saved it.

--

Kerry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 16:13:15 -0500



>Does anyone collect these things?

I don't, but I have an interesting one.  Mad Magazine released, "It's a
Super-Spectacular Day".  Written by a supreme song-parodist, Frank Jacobs,
it had a verse about how life was marvelous and happy and the disc was
grooved so it had six different endings, which included alien abduction,
consequences of truancy, etc.

Another Mad flexible disc was an actual audio retelling of an article in
the magazine.  It was a parody of the "All in the Family" show called,
"Gall in the Family Fare" It didn't feature all of the dialogue, but it had
the full cast, sound effects and an original theme song.  Looking back on
it, it was a pretty scathing parody for a "sort of kiddie" magazine.  It
has the Bunker parody running off with Hitler at the end!

We also had the National Geographic disc!  Not only am I glad someone
remembers it, but I wanted to show that I was exposed to something other
than just Mad Magazine.

Let's all of us hold up our flexible records, wobble them about and sing a
chorus of "Tie Me Kangaroo Down, Sport",
Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 16:19:54 -0500


...and furthermore...
I also have a flexi disc by Mattel called "Swingy" for the Swingy Doll by
Mattel.  I believe it danced while the record played.  The song is actually
pretty good!

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 13:22:46 -0800


Brian Phillips ([e-mail]) wrote in part:

> Another Mad flexible disc was an actual audio retelling of an article in
> the magazine.  It was a parody of the "All in the Family" show called,
> "Gall in the Family Fare" It didn't feature all of the dialogue, but it
had
> the full cast, sound effects and an original theme song.  Looking back on
> it, it was a pretty scathing parody for a "sort of kiddie" magazine.  It
> has the Bunker parody running off with Hitler at the end!
>
> We also had the National Geographic disc!  Not only am I glad someone
> remembers it, but I wanted to show that I was exposed to something other
> than just Mad Magazine.

Another tangent - given those nifty new CD-based collections of Mad
Magazine, does anyone know if they included the flexible disk recordings (in
wav/mp3/whatever format)? That would be quite cool.

I know that National Geographic did not do this with their CD set (~33 CDs/
or 4-5 DVDs[!]).

Erik
www.swankradio.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tennessee Ernie
Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:03:05 EST



In a message dated 3/23/0 9:28:20 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>A good addition would be "My Rifle, My Pony and Me" from Rio Bravo

To that please add The Wheeler's & Dealer's "My Mother, My Sister, My Wife."


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Kahimi Karie
Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:09:15 EST



In a message dated 3/24/0 4:51:19 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Hey, JimmyB, I like this too. Candyman is a direct lift
>>from "The Hustle." Very cool

It is very good, but I have to disagree that it was lifted from "The Hustle".
It was lifted from "I Want You Back" by the Jackson 5....JB/agreeing to
disagree


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 14:12:41 -0800


>...and furthermore...
>I also have a flexi disc by Mattel called "Swingy" for the Swingy Doll by
>Mattel.  I believe it danced while the record played.  The song is actually
>pretty good!
>
>Brian Phillips

And by the same manufacturer, there was also a small blue flexidisc
available with a Barbie doll from the early 1990s (the name of the Barbie
escapes me at the moment, but it was the same set/group that included the
first appearance of Midge since the sixties!).  Anyway, the blue flexi
record had a brand new Beach Boys composition on it - a new "Barbie" song
(not the original "Barbie" they wrote way back when in the late 50s/early
60s when the original doll came out).

This list is proving to be a good exercise in memory retention - some of
this stuff being talked about I haven't thought of in ages!

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject:  (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:20:01 EST


Yoshinori Sunahara found an old flexi-disc for Pan American Airlines
somewhere and became so enamored of it that he hired an orchestra to recreate
it for the "Pan-Am '70" LP. The track is called "Theme From Takeoff."


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious Records/Lesbian Seagull
Date: 24 Mar 2000 18:02:36 -0500



>>Was the Song "Lesbian
>>Seagull" as featured in the Beavis and Butthead Movie an actual song as I
>>have heard some insist?  Or am I dreaming this too?

yes, it is for real,
Englebert Humperdink or whatever his last name is, does a cover I am told.
unless he wrote the dern thing. but i doubt that.
i still need to hear this one.
who does it in the movie? is it Englebert?

********************************
Bump
Universal DJ
Defective Records
[e-mail]
http://www.defectiverecords.com
"Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 00:19:22 +0100


Erik Hoel wrote:

> This is an interesting topic - flexible 33s (very small) and 45s that were
> found inside magazines in the late 60s.

Of course! And off we go on yet another interesting subject of the beloved
Exotica mailing list! I hope someone comes up with at least one Martin Denny
FlexiDisc or something like that. My own collection unfortunately doesn't
qualify as exotic, unless you call a flexi by Serena, the princess of porn,
"exotic". Or "Flimsy Wrap" by Devo...
What else? There is "High Society's 4th Anniversary Present to Our Readers",
called "Double Trouble", feat. Gloria Leonard "and her best friend". It's
actually a picture flexi, and I must say, I would have enjoyed it more at the
time when I got it, if I had not seen her.
The most list-related flexi thing I own is an over-sized postcard with a
groove on the picture-side, called "Anima e cuore", music by Salve d'Esposito,
played by Steff Lindemann and his orchestra. And one by Anthony Ventura with
excerpts of "Je t'aime... The last flexi disc I have is from 1996 and by
Andreas Dorau.

I hope someone else has a more interesting collection.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:27:23 -0600




Does L. Ron Hubbard's "Space Jazz" count?

--

Kerry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Linds" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flexible Markie
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:46:46 -0800


Oh my god! Thank you for Lil Markie. It just blew my mind. I feel the great
need to wash myself. My skin is crawling. Whoa! Creepy or what?





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Linds" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flexi
Date: 24 Mar 2000 15:55:55 -0800


Here two of my favourite flexi discs.
1. Music To Shave By....Bing Crosby, Louis Armstrong, Rosemary Clooney and
The Hi-Lo's having a gay old time singing about shaving. This is the first
Hi-Fi recording ever to be included in a national magazine. Put out by
remington to get everyone excited about their new Roll-A-Matic shaver.
2. Long Dong Silver "The world's No.1 stud" tells all! - I think this from
Hustler magazine...I really can't remember since I just bought the magazine
for the record!

I've also got a few organ demo flexi records and a few religious ones with
great photos engrained on the plastic.
Brian



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 19:14:15 -0500


My humble collection:

National Geographic's "Sounds Of The Space Age: From Sputnik To Lunar
Landing" - Narrated by Col. Frank Borman, USAF Astronaut. December 1969,
page 750A. Such precision.

I used to have a copy of National Geographic's "Songs Of The Humpback
Whale" flexi, but sadly it seems to have disappeared somewhere along the
way. Around '81 or 2, I did manage to get it mentioned under the best
flexi-disc category in New York Rocker's readers' poll results. Woo hoo.

"Songs I Sing In Church School" - Just straight up hymns -- none of the
kitsch content required by Rev. Ben.

"The Pledge Of Allegiance" - as reviewed by Red Skelton, from The Red
Skelton Hour, January 14, 1969 (it says here). This is actually a cardboard
laminate disc. Are they also considered flexies? A giveaway from Burger King.

and my favorite:

"Soaky, the Fun Bath, Sends Greetings From The Chipmunks" - a brief routine
and song from The Chipmunks. Dave too. A Soaky bubblebath promo, natch.
"Hey Kids! Here is your personal greeting from your new Soaky friends,
Alvin, Simon and Theodore." Probably came out along with the Chipmunk Soaky
bottles. Another cardboard laminate. 1964 copyright date.

For those who don't know 'em, "Soaky" bubble bath was sold in plastic
bottles shaped like various licensed characters, which they changed
frequently. Weekly? Monthly? Lots of cartoon characters... I can recall
Rocky & Bullwinkle also. And in the midst of the 60s monster fad, they even
did The Wolfman, The Mummy and Frankenstein's Monster. Wish I still had
'em. Well, not really.

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 11:23:51 +1100




I have a flexi released by DEVO that is just the ravings of a dj between
brackets at a club where they are doing a live show. Can't remember where I
got though.

Philip




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 19:27:14 -0500


Whoops, forgot one. A Roy Rogers postcard with a photo of taxidermized
Trigger on display.

Caption:
HEIGH-HO "TRIGGER"
ROY ROGERS & DALE EVANS MUSEUM

Laminated on top of that is a brief rendition of "Happy Trails".

(I imagine) Trigger says, "Ha ha. Reeeal funny, wiseguys."


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Benny Hinn
Date: 24 Mar 2000 17:57:50 -0800


Benny Hinn was the target of a prankster about a decade back who discovered
that Hinn had employed a little extra help to take up the slack the Holy
Spirit was leaving.  I think it was a POV special on PBS.

They used a scanner to tune in to the cosmic vibrations of a woman backstage
reading the prayer cards to Hinn via a wireless earpiece he was wearing, so
Hinn could seem to be prompted by God." Is there a woman here named Agnes
who has been stricken with Gout? God is telling me to find a woman named
Agnes!" and Hal-E-LOOYA, Puraise Jeeezzuz, there WOULD be some lady named
Agnes stricken with the gout. They got the whole deal on video.

Then he dressed up like the ugliest woman you ever saw, and GOT HEALED by
Hinn - watching this faker go into hystrionic fits as Hinn lays-on the hands
was quite funny.

That's the only story on Hinn you need besides the one that might explain
the deal with his hair. Let me know if anyone ever figures THAT mystery out.


Ron


>> As much as I appreciate the Benny Hill input, I really meant Benny Hinn.
>
>What is his story? He has the prettiest hair / helmet of any televangilist.
>His accent in English strikes me as Italian but he looks like he could be
>East Indian.
>
>Musically, I love the propoganda strings that accompany his healing
>services.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Pandora's Box (nightclub plug)
Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:08:53 -0500 (EST)


Calling all madames & monsieurs...

******PANDORA's BOX*******
"60's Euro & Exotica club"
Every Sunday night! Doors at 10pm
at the Lava Bar, 575 Commonwealth ave,Boston MA(above Howard Johnsons) [phone]
Take the red glass elevator to the top floor "playboy" penthouse suite w/a 360 degree panoramic
view of the Boston skyline at night!
60's euro sexploitation flicks & 60's french music vids
Performances by gogo gals Suzie Solitaire & Carrie Nation!
new "remote controlled" lighted gogo boxes!
Chill out booths,red velvet couches, & large dancefloor
Hosts: DjVinny (GoGo Empire) & Sir Richard (Phase4)
Dj's spinning 60's euro soundtracks,Frenchie yeye,sleazy listening,funky soul & more!

check out our cool regularly updated Pandora club site at:
  www.project3.com/pandora.htm




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Benny Hinn
Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:12:37 EST


In a message dated 3/24/00 6:00:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Benny Hinn was the target of a prankster about a decade back who discovered
 that Hinn had employed a little extra help to take up the slack the Holy
 Spirit was leaving.  I think it was a POV special on PBS.

 They used a scanner to tune in to the cosmic vibrations of a woman backstage
 reading the prayer cards to Hinn via a wireless earpiece he was wearing, so
 Hinn could seem to be prompted by God." Is there a woman here named Agnes
 who has been stricken with Gout? God is telling me to find a woman named
 Agnes!" and Hal-E-LOOYA, Puraise Jeeezzuz, there WOULD be some lady named
 Agnes stricken with the gout. They got the whole deal on video.

 Then he dressed up like the ugliest woman you ever saw, and GOT HEALED by
 Hinn - watching this faker go into hystrionic fits as Hinn lays-on the hands
 was quite funny.

 That's the only story on Hinn you need besides the one that might explain
 the deal with his hair. Let me know if anyone ever figures THAT mystery out.


 Ron
  >>
Are you sure this was Hinn and not some other guy named Peter Popoff?
You might want to check http://www.bible.ca/tongues-popoff-39-17Mhz.htm

I think Hinn's notoriety is when some famous boxer when diagnosed with a
heart condition went to Hinn and then after he was "cured" attempted to go
back into the ring.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:44:40 -0500 (EST)


At 07:37 AM 3/23/00 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote:
>
>Great stuff, very inspiring. I have a Christian
>percussion lp - can't recall the artist's name, but
>the colorful cover pictures him in a sea of
>instruments: guiras, vibes, bongos, bells, etc. The
>narrative on the back of the cover explains all of the
>instruments and the exotic proseltized lands from
>which they originated. So much potential percussive
>power - bland as unleavened bread.
>
Would that be Del Roper's Singing Percussions Interpret The "Old Hymns"?
On Word, out of Waco?

Or are there more than one Xian Percussion(s) LPs out there?!

-Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:47:51 -0500 (EST)


At 04:19 PM 3/24/00 -0500, Brian Phillips wrote:
>
>...and furthermore...
>I also have a flexi disc by Mattel called "Swingy" for the Swingy Doll by
>Mattel.  I believe it danced while the record played.  The song is actually
>pretty good!
>
That tune was by Mark Lindsey, Paul Revere & The Raiders, weren't it?

-Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Spinning Man <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) robert tilton and religious records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 08:17:49 -0800 (PST)


This is a link to a website with a brief sample of
Robert Tilton and other religious records.

http://www.fringeware.com/~melba/audio.html

I very much agree with Ross about the wonderful,
peaceful nature of Alvino Rey's Refreshing Melodies.
It's the kind of record you don't want to listen to
while driving and tired!  Very soothing and dreamy....

I generally find the album covers of these sorts of
records very promising, but the records themselves are
more times than not pretty bland.  Obviously there are
exceptions.  One that hasn't been mentioned (unless I
missed it) is "Baby Lulu,"  a grown woman who sings
and speaks like a little girl about Jesus, to "daddy"
on her lp.  She also dresses her poodles in cute
little outfits.

Michael

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:59:44 -0500 (EST)


At 09:45 AM 3/24/00 -0800, Ben Waugh wrote:

>Excellent idea. Though sexual fervor is probably what
>put the energy in all that old time religion to begin
>with.

Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal trinity of sex, drugs and
rock&roll.
They're all means to mess with the brain's electrical flow and move to the
"higher plane." There's lots of ways to knock the brain into ecstatic trance --
discovering those methods is one of the things religions do best. And, of
course,
Ritual Music is the psychic foundation for Exotica, so, therefore, *all* our
Exotica LPs are religious records.

-Lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Vist Lil' Markie (sick n twisted Religious record)
Date: 25 Mar 2000 15:02:14 +1100


on 25/3/00 5:27 AM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Listen to Lil' Markie at:
>
I'm crying and I can't tell if it's sympathy or mirth.

Thanks for that.

Philip

--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 24 Mar 2000 21:49:12 -0700


Mark Kingsley wrote:

> In 1988 or '89 McDonald's had a promotion where they included a flexidisc in the
> Sunday newspaper... etc.

i don't collect flexies per se (though i'll probably start) but i do collect
records that promote products. i have a flexi that was given to mcdonald's
employees in 1979 to introduce their new jingle ("nobody can do it like
mcdonald's can"). it's performed in several different musical styles (r&b,
disco, etc.) and there's a special message from roy kroc (he sounds like a
crusty old codger).

and thanks lou, for identifying paul revere & the raiders as the group that
sang "swingy." i've been trying to remember that for months. they used the
tune from one of their singles -- by any chance do you remember what that song was?

another notable flexi in my collection: mouth sounds by frederick r. newman,
included in his instructional book of the same name, subtitled "how to
whistle, pop, click and honk your way to social success."

mike ewanus


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: kendoll <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re: flexidiscs
Date: 24 Mar 2000 22:13:12 -0700


remembered another notable flexi (on cardboard) from my collection of promo records:
liberace performing the way we were, from a box of pot of gold chocolates. see
the scan at http://fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~kendoll/liberace.htm

mike ewanus


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: More More! (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 01:13:31 EST



In a message dated 3/24/0 11:00:38 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal trinity of sex, drugs and
>rock&roll.
>They're all means to mess with the brain's electrical flow and move to the
>"higher plane." There's lots of ways to knock the brain into ecstatic trance
--

I use music to deliver the goods.  Can you supply a few more guaranteed to
please methods? (P.S. no drugs, alcohol)


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flexi-Chevy
Date: 25 Mar 2000 17:30:31 +1100


I've got a phenomenal flexi "audio-postcard (that's right--postcard sized,
with clear plastic coating over the image with the record cut in the
coating)" of the 1959 Chevy song, "See the USA in Your Chevrolet" sung by
Dinah Shore.

The livin' is easy....

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Have sitar will travel
Date: 25 Mar 2000 03:59:40 -0500 (EST)



 I liked all kitchy sitar takes on 60's hits. Ananda Shankar's (1970) versions of Jumpin'Jack
Flash & Light my fire. Lord Sitar's (1968) versions of Daydream believer,I can see for miles,
Black is black,...etc but never really got into the sitar-electronica thing too much aside from
the "Indian Vibes Mathar remixes" w/Weller on Sitar.
          -Vinny


>Here's excerpts from the latest Aquarius Records new-release newsletter.>Anyone got any comments
on any of these? Any worth seeking out?>>THE ANANDA SHANKAR EXPERIENCE & STATE OF BENGAL  "Walking
On"> (Real World)  cd  16.98> Ananda Shankar (RIP) met up in '99 with British "Asian Underground"
DJ>State of Bengal for this sitar-funk-electronica session....



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexible records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 06:37:13 PST



> > In 1988 or '89 McDonald's had a promotion where they included a
>flexidisc in the
> > Sunday newspaper... etc.
>
>i don't collect flexies per se (though i'll probably start) but i do
>collect
>records that promote products. i have a flexi that was given to mcdonald's
>employees in 1979 to introduce their new jingle ("nobody can do it like
>mcdonald's can"). it's performed in several different musical styles (r&b,
>disco, etc.) and there's a special message from roy kroc (he sounds like a
>crusty old codger).


Funny you should mention this one because it is the audio is downloadable
from this site

http://www.teleport.com/~jfitz/music/oddballarchive.html

along with some other fun flexi stuff, Burger Chef etc.

-jonny yuma
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: More More! (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 08:37:47 -0800


>In a message dated 3/24/0 11:00:38 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal trinity of sex, drugs and
>>rock&roll.
>>They're all means to mess with the brain's electrical flow and move to the
>>"higher plane." There's lots of ways to knock the brain into ecstatic trance
>--
>
>I use music to deliver the goods.

And a hearty "me too" to that! (sorry, I couldn't help myself)

>Can you supply a few more guaranteed to please methods? (P.S. no drugs,
alcohol)

This compels me to say something I've been meaning to say for a while now
that will most likely be construed by some to be inflammatory; rest
assured it is *not* being said with that intention in mind.  It is being
said because of my family's own history with such substances and what
I've witnessed in dear friends I was close to who are no longer with us
because of such abuses.  To wit:  I'm really uncomfortable about all this
association linking addictive substances (especially alchohol and
tobacco) with music.  It's one reason I really detest the word "lounge",
"ultra lounge" et al. in describing what is in essence--simply good
music.  Personally, I don't need to be drinking or smoking a cigarette to
enjoy the pure pleasure of ANY music.

I'm well aware that there have been in the past and continue to be many
famous, good musicians who have used drugs and alcohol.  But the
continued abuse over many years also killed some of them, too--it killed
some famous musicians who are near and dear to my heart.  And that's
painful to know.  Painful to know that if it were *not* for that abuse,
they'd still be among us, making music.  Making new albums, performing in
concerts that we could attend and enjoy.

Before some people pipe in with the fact that alchohol doesn't have to be
abused--yes, I do realize that.  But those with a compulsive addiction
can't use it in moderation like others can.  From my own experience, I
can guarantee you that if you watched someone you really care about die
from the physical problems that come from many decades of excessive
drinking, that your perspective on it would change and you would not feel
the same, casual way about it ever again.

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Religious Records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 13:47:46 +0100


here's one on CD:
Reverend Benjamin Cone, Jr.: "The Trial Of Oh Jesus"
CD, Malaco MCD 4488, USA, 1997

story of Jesus "translated" into O.J. Simpson-era language.

        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Marcy
Date: 25 Mar 2000 14:36:19 +0100


"Christmas with Marcy, sing with Marcy" is by far the most weird xmas lp i
got. it's beyond funny, it's scary.

BTW, it's Marcy Tigner

        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: More More! (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 14:04:13 -0500 (EST)


At 01:13 AM 3/25/00 EST, DJJimmyBee wrote:
>In a message dated 3/24/0 11:00:38 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>>Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal trinity of sex, drugs and
>>rock&roll.
>>They're all means to mess with the brain's electrical flow and move to the
>>"higher plane." There's lots of ways to knock the brain into ecstatic trance
>--
>I use music to deliver the goods.  Can you supply a few more guaranteed to
>please methods? (P.S. no drugs, alcohol)
>
You mean other than drugs (or any other ingested psychoactive chemical) or
rock&roll (or any other music with lots of either drones, repetitive simple
rhythm or complex polyrhythm)? Well, any repetitive physical movement
repeated for long periods will do it eventually. Tantric sex, back&forth
rocking (davening) during prayer in temple, spinning ala the whirling
dervishes, walking zen or monastic meditation, long distance running, ...

-swami lou




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) request
Date: 25 Mar 2000 16:16:52 -0500


hi,

someone posted a URL to a site which had little marcy, and then another
url to a site loaded with great (weird) clips. does anyone have them and
can share them with me (again)?

thanks,

ck
--
Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html
Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air"
every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
& WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM
http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu'


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Zounds!!
Date: 25 Mar 2000 14:03:07 PST


Picked up a nice ((Stereo)) copy of Zounds! What Sounds! by Dean Elliott at
a antique store ($1) + .05cents tax. I have the Mono version and I must say
the my new stereo Copy is leaps, and zounds better than the mono version.
All the sound effects bounce back and forth between my speakers, so cool.
However it says both High Fidelity and Stereo on the jacket. What gives? Has
it been reprocessed for stereo? Or could it be a different recording than
the mono one? Anyone know, cause I have noticed a lot of records in my
collection (especially ones on Capitol) say both High Fidelity and Stereo.
Doesnt High Fidelity mean Mono? How can it be both??

im so confused.

who cares, the record sounds great, but I would like to find out if anyone
out there knows.

-jonny
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Zounds!! / hi fi vs stereo
Date: 25 Mar 2000 17:45:50 EST


In a message dated 3/25/00 5:03:48 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< However it says both High Fidelity and Stereo on the jacket. What gives? >>

High Fidelity has come to mean mono in spoken vernacular, but originally it
refered to an improvement in the sound quality of records where the range of
reproducable recorded sound had been increased.  So companies starting
putting high fidelity on their record covers.  Then stereo came along so they
put stereo and high fidelity on the cover.  Thus, covers with only high
fidelity on them were mono LPs.  So during the years of both mono and stereo
versions people came to know that if it only said high fidelity on the cover
it meant high fidelity mono.

On a related note:  I am a collector who is interested in having both copies
of some LPs (mono and stereo).  Often it is not worth the bother, but
sometimes the mono mix and the stereo mix are totally different with
different instruments emphasized etc.  And, on some LPs different takes were
actually used, but this was not noted on the cover.  I have several vocalist
LPs where the takes on the mono and stereo LPs are easy to spot as very
different, with the instrumental solos even being different.  And these are
NOT re recorded versions.

Re recorded versions.  Some songs have been recorded by the original artist 3
or more times!   An original 78 recording in the 40s.  A high fidelity
version in the 50s.  And a stereo version in the 60s.  On some records and
cds it is hard to know which recording is featured until you listen to the
thing, especially on compilations.

Kinda makes record collecting a little more interesting.

Larry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) gift of music...
Date: 25 Mar 2000 18:24:40 -0500


Speaking of links, here is "the gift of music" for everyone here... hope
you enjoy it. It is a realaudio clip. It is a montage/combine of old
records. has nothing to do with southern africa, except it may have a
bit or two...

http://www.megasaver.com/audio/textlinks/southernafrica23.ram

the site page is:

http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html

take care...

ck
--
Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html
Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air"
every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
& WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM
http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu'


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Benny Hinn
Date: 25 Mar 2000 18:33:16 -0800



It appears I have two instances confused - The Peter Popoff part was
definately something I saw, but I also had seen a preacher "heal" one of the
least passable women in drag I'd ever seen. I am pretty sure it was Hinn,
but seeing as I had already confused two stories into one, I am willing to
concede it could have been anyone.

Ron


>In a message dated 3/24/00 6:00:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>[e-mail] writes:
>
><< Benny Hinn was the target of a prankster about a decade back who
discovered
> that Hinn had employed a little extra help to take up the slack the Holy
> Spirit was leaving.  I think it was a POV special on PBS.
>
> They used a scanner to tune in to the cosmic vibrations of a woman
backstage
> reading the prayer cards to Hinn via a wireless earpiece he was wearing,
so
> Hinn could seem to be prompted by God." Is there a woman here named Agnes
> who has been stricken with Gout? God is telling me to find a woman named
> Agnes!" and Hal-E-LOOYA, Puraise Jeeezzuz, there WOULD be some lady named
> Agnes stricken with the gout. They got the whole deal on video.
>
> Then he dressed up like the ugliest woman you ever saw, and GOT HEALED by
> Hinn - watching this faker go into hystrionic fits as Hinn lays-on the
hands
> was quite funny.
>
> That's the only story on Hinn you need besides the one that might explain
> the deal with his hair. Let me know if anyone ever figures THAT mystery
out.
>
>
> Ron
>  >>
>Are you sure this was Hinn and not some other guy named Peter Popoff?
>You might want to check http://www.bible.ca/tongues-popoff-39-17Mhz.htm
>
>I think Hinn's notoriety is when some famous boxer when diagnosed with a
>heart condition went to Hinn and then after he was "cured" attempted to go
>back into the ring.
>
>



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 18:54:56 -0800 (PST)


Om, Qadosh and Hallelujah. I had the feeling I had my
knuckles rulered for introducing this topic and/or
undue levity... hence my facile/facetious "rock 'n'
roll analysis", all in good fun. Which to me seems at
least a portion of the point of popular music.

Best,

BW

--- Lou Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Oh, hell, that's only one part of the eternal
> trinity of sex, drugs and
> rock&roll.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Religious Records
Date: 25 Mar 2000 19:03:00 -0800 (PST)


That's it exactly. And here at home, holding it as I
tap, I see it is not so colorful as I had described
it. Del is imposed upon a bell playing the piano next
to a xylophone and marimba. But it's still amazing how
bland this thing is (well, I guess it is a church
record), given the instruments listed: electric
carillon and piano, celeste, etc. On the Word label
for those interested, WST-8069-LP.

--- Lou Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Would that be Del Roper's Singing Percussions
> Interpret The "Old Hymns"?
> On Word, out of Waco?

 Or are there more than one Xian Percussion(s) LPs
> out there?!


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) F&T explanation....
Date: 26 Mar 2000 13:59:29 +1100


As you'll all see by the posting a few hours ago, the F&T website address
has changed yet again, this time for GOOD.  I was getting so many emails
complaining of not being able to get onto the site, I just damned the
torpedoes and socked it up on my own server...so now you'll all be able to
see it sans annoying animation-filled ads and with reliable access!  No more
address changes, really. No really.  Please believe me?

Once again,

http://www.artclik.com/twingrands/ft.html

Cheers and thanks for the patience,

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Announcing....
Date: 26 Mar 2000 10:35:00 +1100


...after much hooing and hemming and hawing and haranguing, Keith and Lea Lo
Bue's brand-new web design team

<artclik.com>

in cooperation with Avant Garde Records' Scott W. Smith bring you

the official website for FERRANTE & TEICHER, the grand twins of the twin
grands...soon to celebrate their 50th anniversary of performing and
recording!

http://www.artclik.com/twingrands/ft.html

Please visit and sign the guestbook and let us know what you think...your
input is vital!


 artclick.com &
Avant-Garde Records



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) F&T explanation....
Date: 25 Mar 2000 19:27:21 -0800


keith, et al...

how about this as an idea for the F & T site.

it would be cool to see a discography with
covers (at least their proper original studio
releases excluding hits packages for brevity).
what would make this selected discography special
would be getting either F and or T to make some
brief recollections or commentary about individual
releases.   it could be either personal or music
industry related or anything they might recollect of
interest possibly to lend insight.
a
they are in a kind of unique position having been
in the "pop" world at large commercially, yet having
had a career that preceded the rock era and has
continued into this (apparent) post rock era today.

i'd like to hear about some of the personalities
and professionals in the music industry they encountered
throughout their career.  i imagine they have some
interesting stories, if not ones of "trashing" hotel
suites, tossing teevee consoles out high rise windows :) !

as performers of their vintage slowly but predictably
"leave our midst"... my feeling is ...all these wonderful
stories are being lost forever, unrecorded because
they're viewed as incidental to the creative output.

thoughts ?

paul moshay   (who will soon be making his guestbk post)








# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Flexidisk Tangent
Date: 25 Mar 2000 23:02:14 -0500


>"Hey Kids! Here is your personal greeting from your new Soaky friends,
>Alvin, Simon and Theodore."

I recently succumbed to curiosity--and this is probably the only
forum in the Known Universe where I could talk about this--and used
my computer to slow down an Alvin and the Chipmunks record to half
speed so you could hear what their real voices sounded like.

Anyone know a good story about who it was who really sang those? I'd
love to hear that it's someone who turned out to be famous. But Alvin
actually sounds like some pathetic failed folk singer, whose voice is
(no surprise) kind of thin and nasal.

I really liked "Mr. Tambourine Man" from _Chipmunks  A-Go-Go_ at half
speed. That plodding, dulled percussion; the abstract mournful lyrics
(". . . all my senses have been stripped/and my hands can't feel to
grip"). . . it gave the whole thing a lovely apocalyptic
heroin-overdose quality. Check it out!

cheers,
  --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Indulis R Rutks <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexidisk Tangent
Date: 26 Mar 2000 00:09:55 -0600 (CST)




On Sat, 25 Mar 2000, Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote:

>
> >"Hey Kids! Here is your personal greeting from your new Soaky friends,
> >Alvin, Simon and Theodore."
>
> I recently succumbed to curiosity--and this is probably the only
> forum in the Known Universe where I could talk about this--and used
> my computer to slow down an Alvin and the Chipmunks record to half
> speed so you could hear what their real voices sounded like.
>
> Anyone know a good story about who it was who really sang those? I'd
> love to hear that it's someone who turned out to be famous. But Alvin
> actually sounds like some pathetic failed folk singer, whose voice is
> (no surprise) kind of thin and nasal.

If you're speaking of the original Chipmunks, I think all of the voices
were done by Ross Bagdasarian, i.e. David Seville.

Which reminds me that I need to kick myself because I neglected to see
"Rear Window" during it's recent re-release (Bagdasarian played the
neighbor who was seen playing his piano).

-Indy Rutks ([e-mail])




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) the paisano rollcall
Date: 25 Mar 2000 22:08:26 -0800


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Giovanni Berti
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 7:47 AM

> I have noticed through the years many listers bearing Italian last
> names.
> How many are you? I believe it's a majority!

> Vergara

Me? Nah, I'm from the Philippines, and currently living in San Francisco. My
first name is Benito, though, but I can assure you I wasn't named after
*that* Italian. =) I'm flattered, however, to be thought of coming from the
boot...

Coming from an Asian country colonized by Spain for 300 years (and by the US
for another 50 after that), one would think that the Philippines would
produce more interesting exotica-related music, but alas...

Later,
Ben

http://www.bigfoot.com/~bvergara/
ICQ# 12832406



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:Benny Hinn  (a Dutch approach)
Date: 26 Mar 2000 15:44:12 +0200



>><< Benny Hinn was the target of a prankster about a decade back


A Dutch prankster, Rob Muntz, targeted Benny Hinn last
year, and several of his collegues. He modelled himself
after a standard over-the-top US televangelist and
appeared on stage and in TV programs as a very special
guest from The Netherlands. The highlight of each meeting
was the fooling of the host into a blessing in Dutch for
the Dutch viewers, delivered in that typical heartfelt
manner: "Godverdomme (God be damned)", allelujah.

Muntz' most recent project, broadcast last week, was his
impersonation of Hitler in Austria. He paraded through
Vienna's inner city standing straight up on a fiaker with
right arm raised in Nazisalute, shouted for a piece of
sachertorte (which he later vomited all over the place)
in a coffee house, schnell, schnell, while releasing
a few sniffs from his gas cylinder of Zyklon B, and
finally, chasing young orthodox jews through the streets
scaring the shit out of them with his contineously
repeated "Wissen sie wer ich bin? (Do you know who I am?)".
Now the Dutch aren't easily upset about the media, there's
little to no censorship on (mainstream) TV, but for this
he is probably going to get fired.

Cheers, Ton


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Have sitar will travel
Date: 26 Mar 2000 11:40:57 -0500


I saw a street musician playing an electric sitar yesterday.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Chuck Collazzi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Paesano roll call
Date: 26 Mar 2000 12:00:19 -0500


Count me in!
100% paisano (50% Sicilian, that counts!  My father's side from Basilicata).
Don't know squat about "Italian pop", however, being Bronx-born,
L.A.-raised, and Florida-deteriorated.  Puccini's my man (BTW, he wrote the
book on exotica--check out Turandot, Butterfly, etc.)
Ciao and pass the sfingi,
Chuck Collazzi

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
> To: <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 10:47 AM
> Subject: (exotica) the paisano rollcall>
> > The current posting about Italian pop makes me want to ask something
> > I've always wanted to post about but somehow never did.
> > I have noticed through the years many listers bearing Italian last
> > names.
> > How many are you? I believe it's a majority!




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Mina
Date: 26 Mar 2000 22:40:49 +0000


> From:          "Antonio Iba=F1ez" <[e-mail]>
> To:            [e-mail]
> Subject:       Re: (exotica) Re: Mina
> Date:          Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:43:33 CET

> Hey, Raffaella Carra is Maximum Exotica. "Rumore" is her creative peak, =
no
> doubt!!!
>
> Monsieur Antonio
> Free Arthur Lee

I agree Raffaella Carra' must not be forgotten. Rumore is a real
floorshaker at every party I play it! Much in the glam-easy vein.
I would rate "Tuca Tuca" as her all-time best.
Ciao
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Christiano Perrelli Randau" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hit '70
Date: 27 Mar 2000 02:15:41 GMT


Does anyone knows something about the Constanze/somerset
album "Hit '70 grosse starts grosse stars"? The orcherstal
credit goes to Udo Reichel.
I just love the first song "Heute so, morgen so" (Loose/Schmidt)
and would like to know who is the singer (and the drummer too).
Anyone knows the composers?

Every help is welcome.
Thanks,

C. P. Randau
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious records
Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:17:28 -0500


Johan wrote:

> "Christmas with Marcy, sing with Marcy" is by far the most weird xmas lp i
> got. it's beyond funny, it's scary.
You mean to say it's weirder than Culturcide's "Depressed Christmas" b/w
"Santa Claus Was my Lover", sung (literally) over the tunes of White
Christmas & Billy Jean respectively.  I should perhaps take this back since
Culturcide surely intended to be weird but I'm not sure I could say the same
for Little Marcy!  At this rate I'm going to be the first to take Nat up on
the Little Marcy box set once he gets that CD burner!

Always on the lookout for weird Xmas records...





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) An Obituary Blunder
Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:18:05 -0500


I was announcing the tracks we were playing today during Space Bop and
mentioned not knowing what Curtis Mayfield was doing these days.  We then
received not one, not two, but three phone calls, all informing us he had
died at least a year ago! It was good to know we have listeners out there
and that they know their music but it was embarrassing to say the least...
If anyone wants yet another argument in support of Lou's continued obituary
posting this would be it.  Now I better make sure I read 'em!





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Records)
Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:09:00 +0100


B.J. Major wrote:

> I'm really uncomfortable about all this
> association linking addictive substances (especially alchohol and
> tobacco) with music.  It's one reason I really detest the word "lounge",
> "ultra lounge" et al. in describing what is in essence--simply good
> music.

I thought, a "lounge" is just a place to hang around. You don't HAVE to drink and
smoke. You can also EAT opium... :-)

>  Personally, I don't need to be drinking or smoking a cigarette to
> enjoy the pure pleasure of ANY music.
>
> I'm well aware that there have been in the past and continue to be many
> famous, good musicians who have used drugs and alcohol.  But the
> continued abuse over many years also killed some of them, too--it killed
> some famous musicians who are near and dear to my heart.

Sooner or later everybody is killed by something. A long life is not necessarily
a good life. It's everybody's own decision. You just cannot judge others for
taking - or NOT taking - any drugs. Don't forget, that all people are not the
same: many people simply cannot be happy in life without drugs. It's neither
their - nor "society's" - fault, it's simply bio-chemistry. So don't judge them
if they find at least some exstacy with the help of "drugs". They can do with
their life what they want as well as you can do with your life what you want.

>Painful to know that if it were *not* for that abuse,
>they'd still be among us, making music.  Making new albums, performing in
>concerts that we could attend and enjoy.

Well... besides that this is a very egocentrical way to see it, it is a pure
assumption. You take for granted that these artists would make interesting art
without their drug abuse. But that's very hard to tell. They might not have
become musicians in the first place or you might never have heard of them, let
alone have liked them. Are you sure you really would like to see a 60 years old
Jim Morrison performing a music completely uninfluenced by psychedelic drugs?
(Well... uh... of course you would! But it might be as enlightening as listening
to Celine Dion)

In my personal opinion however alcohol IS one of the heaviest and most unhealthy
drugs and only tradition and fear of change can explain why of all psychoactive
substances alcohol is legal, whereas taking a completely untoxic drug like LSD is
considered a major crime. BTW: When it was still legal for psychotherapists to
use LSD in sessions with their patients back in the 60s, they had a dramatically
high cure-rate of alcohol abuse of about 50%! It's so stupid that these hopeful
experiments were stopped by all governments.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music
Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:07:22 +0000


In my personal opinion however alcohol IS one of the heaviest and most
unhealthy
drugs and only tradition and fear of change can explain why of all
psychoactive
substances alcohol is legal, whereas taking a completely untoxic drug like
LSD is
considered a major crime. BTW: When it was still legal for psychotherapists
to
use LSD in sessions with their patients back in the 60s, they had a
dramatically
high cure-rate of alcohol abuse of about 50%! It's so stupid that these
hopeful
experiments were stopped by all governments.



Mo, I think you're being a little naive here (and I'm probably about to be
a litttle naive too)

I personally believe the danger with any of these substances, in fact with
everything in life, is excess. Don't do anything excessively, and you'll be
fine.

B.J.,

Blaming drugs or alcohol for the deaths of musicians like Jim Morrison is
missing the point. The only thing that killed Jim Morrison was Jim
Morrison. There are plenty of people who drink and use drugs and I'm pretty
sure that they don't all die from it. Knee jerk reactions don't get anyone
very far.
Didn't Elvis die young of a heart attack through excessive food intake? Are
we all going to start condemning fatty foods?


Anyway, much more important is the fact that I've finally just found a quad
copy of The Most Beautiful Girls in the World by Berry Lipman. Only 30p
from a Central London charity shop with Thunderball, the Man from UNCLE &
Other Secret Agent Themes by J J Johnson, Mudell Lowe and others.

At last!

Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious records
Date: 27 Mar 2000 05:58:04 -0800 (PST)


Check out Andre Williams's Night Before Christmas on
Norton Records. Or Heino's Christmas lp.

--- Brian Karasick <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Always on the lookout for weird Xmas records...


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music
Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:26:34 -0500


Here's how Wm. Blake put it in "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell." Proverbs
selected for relevance. Mimi

A Memorable Fancy
   As I was walking among the fires of hell, delighted with the enjoyments
of Genius, which to Angels look like torment and insanity, I collected some
of their Proverbs; thinking that as the sayings used in a nation mark its
character, so the Proverbs of Hell show the nature of Infernal wisdom
better than any description of buildings or garments....

The Proverbs of Hell

The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.
Prudence is a rich ugly old maid courted by Incapacity.
No bird soars too high, if he soars with his own wings.
If a fool would persist in his folly he would become wise.
Shame is Pride's cloak.
The tygers of wrath are wiser than the horses of instruction.
You never know what is enough until you know what is more than enough.
Damn braces, Bless relaxes.
The crow wish'd every thing was black, the owl that every thing was white.
Exuberance is Beauty.
Improvement makes the strait road, but the crooked roads without
Improvement are roads to Genius.
Sooner murder an infant in its cradle than nurse unacted desires.

Enough! or Too much.







# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Flexidisk Tangent
Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:53:33 -0500



>If you're speaking of the original Chipmunks, I think all of the voices
>were done by Ross Bagdasarian, i.e. David Seville.

That is correct.  They were named for three Liberty records
executives.  From the Both Sides Now site: "The Chipmunks were wryly named
for Liberty executives Alvin Bennett, Simon Waronker, and Theodore Keep."

I found that taking a 33 RPM recording of theirs and slowing it to 16 RPM
did the trick.  To my ears, not only was it Bagdasarian, but he didn't seem
to change his voice for of them.

When was "Christmas Boogie" (w/Canned Heat) issued?

Brian Phillips

P.S. I had a cover of the "Chipmunk Song" on Cricket Records.  I put it on
the player as a boy only to discover that the voices were not sped up, but
nasal and rather obnoxious.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) sex & drugs & rock&roll- Ian Dury r.i.p.
Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:08:38 -0500



27 March 2000
English rock musician Ian Dury died today of cancer, age 57.
 Channel 4 TV news is announcing the death of singer/lyricist Ian
Dury today (27th March).

http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B17186
http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?p=avg&sql=BP|20796




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mr. Fodder" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 03/27
Date: 26 Mar 2000 23:08:11 -0800


The Friendly Persuasion Show  - Week of 03/27/00

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna Internet
Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week to
hear:

1.  Bing Crosby (blooper)
2.  Gaston & Purcell - Mr. Handman
3.  The Shaggs - I Love
4.  Rod McKuen - The Beat Generation
5.  Danny Davis & Frank D'Amore - Charlton Heston Phone Call
6.  Bobby Lewis - Mumbles Blues
7.  Dean Martin / Jerry Lewis (blooper)
8.  Blarney Stein - Polka Like It's 1999
9.  Bombay The Hard Way - Swami Safari
10.  Brigitte Bardot - Contact
11.  Noel Harrison - A Young Girl
12.  Dirk and Stig (of The Rutles) - Mr. Sheene
13.  Barry Louis Polisar - I Eat Kids
14.  Helmut Zacharias and his Magic Violins - The Tipsy Piano
15.  The McGuire Sisters - Achoo-Cha-Cha
16.  Betsy Gay & The Toppers - Mutual Admiration Society
17.  Romper Room - Do Bee Song (Part II)
18.  Unknown - A Monkey That Wanted To Fly?
19.  Robin & Crystal Bernard - The Monkey Song
20.  Gaston & Purcell - Aba Daba Honeymoon
21.  Unknown - The Monkey Polka
22.  The Animaniacs - The Monkey Song
23.  Wild Man Fischer - Monkey versus Donkeys
24.  John Oswald - Fabulous (Dick Hyman)
25.  Skip Heller his Orchestra and Chorus - Take Your Clothes Off When You
Dance
26.  Booker T. & The M.G.'s - Golden Slumbers / Carry That Weight / The End


Thanks for listening!
     Chow,
          Otis

Mr. Otis F-Odder
[e-mail]
Jump into Cool and Strange Music Magazine online at, www.coolandstrange.com
View past playlists, find out where to order what you hear, listen to show
archives all at, www.thebranflakes.com/fp
To unsubscribe from this weekly email, just reply and say, "The only kind of
spam I want is the potted meat I dine on thank you very much" and you will
be off in a flash.





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music
Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:17:00 -0800


Charles Moseley said:

>In my personal opinion however alcohol IS one of the heaviest and most
>unhealthy
>drugs and only tradition and fear of change can explain why of all
>psychoactive
>substances alcohol is legal, whereas taking a completely untoxic drug like
>LSD is
>considered a major crime.

After what I've personally witnessed, I just think it's better not to use
them at all (speaking only for myself, of course).  What you said in your
first paragraph above IS the truth--alcohol is one of the most toxic
substances one can ingest.  I think if more people actually *thought*
about that fact alone, maybe the "tradition" you speak of could begin to
be changed.  Until then, nothing will change.

>B.J.,
>
>Blaming drugs or alcohol for the deaths of musicians like Jim Morrison is
>missing the point. The only thing that killed Jim Morrison was Jim
>Morrison. There are plenty of people who drink and use drugs and I'm pretty
>sure that they don't all die from it. Knee jerk reactions don't get anyone
>very far.

You didn't read my original post on this thoroughly.  I squarely blamed
the abuse, not the people or the drugs/alchohol (and I never mentioned
Jim Morrison, btw).  My point of view on the whole subject is NOT a
knee-jerk reaction.  I had to decide a LONG time ago whether or not I was
going to use such things and I decided to keep them totally out of my
life.  I think that's a decision that everyone has to make for themselves.

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music
Date: 27 Mar 2000 18:26:42 +0100




[e-mail] wrote:

> When it was still legal for psychotherapists to use LSD in sessions with
> their patients back in the 60s, they had a dramatically high cure-rate of
> alcohol abuse of about 50%! It's so stupid that these hopefulexperiments
> were stopped by all governments.
>
> Mo, I think you're being a little naive here

uh... why exactely?

> Blaming drugs or alcohol for the deaths of musicians like Jim Morrison is
> missing the point. The only thing that killed Jim Morrison was Jim
> Morrison. There are plenty of people who drink and use drugs and I'm pretty
> sure that they don't all die from it.

well... it was YOU who said, that it's a pity that alcohol abuse killed so
many artists. I only suggested, that you probably can't seperate the music
that you love by these musicians from the little abuse "problem" they had. I'm
even sure that many are only legends because they died in time.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:36:59 -0800


>I thought, a "lounge" is just a place to hang around. You don't HAVE to
>drink and
>smoke.

No one goes to a lounge to drink a coke night after night.

>Well... besides that this is a very egocentrical way to see it, it is a pure
>assumption. You take for granted that these artists would make interesting
>art
>without their drug abuse.

It's no assumption AT ALL on my part.  In the case of one particular
artist, I've been told by two different people who were very close to
this artist that alchohol was most definitely used as a constant
"escape"; no one can make decent music staying drunk most of the time, so
let's be real about this, ok?  In addition to all the problems it caused
this artist including a premature death, a huge contract that would have
provided life-long income was also kissed goodbye because the drinking
totally controlled this person's life.  This was not "occasional" or
"moderate" use of a substance.  As I said in my original post, controlled
or moderate use simply is not possible with someone who has an addiction.

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music
Date: 27 Mar 2000 18:55:50 +0100


Just read the 3-4 posts on this topic of Charles, BJ and myself, and had
to smile of how we all mixed up who said what. Anyway. I think "drugs
and music" is a really interesting subject, especially when it comes to
the time when the generation of Psychedelia took the place of the
Exotica generation. I always thought that both basically wanted the
same, but drugs and politics created a generation gap that seperated
them, typical for a lot of things that happened in the 60s. But the
concept of Exotica IS one of phantasy dreams and paradise worlds. And
nothing else is the concept of psychedelic drugs, only that drugs like
LSD took you more directely and intensly to these worlds, or, to be more
precise, to your very own inner paradise-worlds, which exist wether you
have access to them or not. On the other hand exotica music is much more
elaborated, because it had to create the dream WITHOUT drugs; and that's
why it lasts longer and we like still like it so much. It brings me to
the only good argument against LSD I ever heard, by Anais Nin, who said,
that the problem with drugs, especially when you are an artist, is, that
you get what you want without a personal effort, you don't create
anymore, you only consume. But of course, if you use the drug only
sometimes on very special occasions, it gives you more than it takes.
Today the thing that fascinates me the most in contemporary music, are
attempts to bring exotica and psychedelia together, like sisters who
have been seperated by a meaningless war. "Tipsy" would be a good
example for this, but also some breakbeat and house stuff with exotica
related samples and sounds. It actually interests me more than the vague
Pop Nouveau concept and it seems the Pop Nouveau list has fallen into
Cinderella sleep meanwhile.

Mo





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 27 Mar 2000 19:09:34 +0100


B.J. Major wrote:

> >I thought, a "lounge" is just a place to hang around. You don't HAVE to
> >drink and smoke.
>
> No one goes to a lounge to drink a coke night after night.

Oh yes. I know many, but it's not interesting.

> >Well... besides that this is a very egocentrical way to see it, it is a pure
> >assumption. You take for granted that these artists would make interesting
> >art
> >without their drug abuse.
>
> It's no assumption AT ALL on my part.  In the case of one particular
> artist, I've been told by two different people who were very close to
> this artist that alchohol was most definitely used as a constant
> "escape"; no one can make decent music staying drunk most of the time, so
> let's be real about this, ok?

How do you imagine good art is created? Pain, paranoia, unhappiness, depression,
fears are and always were well-known compagnions to so many artists. And alcohol
and drugs have always been ways to escape.. It's a story as old as art. If you
find sober counter-examples, the better. But to survive as an artist in a
totally ignorant materialstic world isn't often so nice. And this is very real.

> In addition to all the problems it caused
> this artist including a premature death, a huge contract that would have
> provided life-long income was also kissed goodbye because the drinking
> totally controlled this person's life.  This was not "occasional" or
> "moderate" use of a substance.  As I said in my original post, controlled
> or moderate use simply is not possible with someone who has an addiction.

There is no moderate controlled abuse. If it was so easy to control, nobody
would have a problem with it. If you are depressed, you are looking for a way
out. If only for the moment. If you have a better idea to help someone in a
situation like that, you will soon be the most famous psychologist of all times!

Mo






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:11:12 -0800


>I thought, a "lounge" is just a place to hang around. You don't HAVE to
>drink and
>smoke.

It's common knowledge that people go to a lounge to drink.  Most people
today go there to get drunk--more to the point.  Not many people go to
lounges to order Cokes...

>Sooner or later everybody is killed by something.

That's a copout; sorry, but it is.  So everyone should just throw caution
to the winds and do whatever they want because we're all going to die
someday?!  Sheesh.

>A long life is not
>necessarily
>a good life. It's everybody's own decision. You just cannot judge others for
>taking - or NOT taking - any drugs.

Please reread my original post.  I did not judge for others.  I have
judged only for myself.  However, I think I have the right to be sad
about the fact that certain musicians I happen to love are no longer with
us squarely because of their abuse problems.

>Well... besides that this is a very egocentrical way to see it, it is a pure
>assumption.

No it's not assumption in the least.  Someone's musical talent and gifts
do not depend on drugs or alchohol.  You are either born with a talent
for making music, or you're not.  Drugs and alchohol do not give anyone
the "gift" of music.  In most cases, drugs and alchohol are used as an
escape to get one away from one's problems.  At least, that's the lie
they believe.  After the effect wears off, the problems are still there.
The people I'm thinking of in particular *definitely* abused alchohol for
this very reason.  There were things in their life they didn't know how
to deal with and instead of seeking help, they chose to stay drunk most
of the time.  It cost them




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Excess
Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:20:09 -0800 (PST)


I have finally acquired enough shelving to pull my lps
out of hiding. Having done so I have noticed not only
a sort of spiritual progress in my easy listening
procurements, but many doubles, triples... anyone
interested in swapping, I will exchange lists. My
doubles include F&T pp lps, Denny, Lyman, Baxter,
moog, Yma Sumac, Eartha Kitt, Kraftwerk, Lambert,
Hendricks & Ross, Dick Dale, Duane Eddy, Ventures,
Bond & other STs, Mundell Lowe, Schifrin...). Don't
have time for E-Bay, so either this or Salvation Army.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 27 Mar 2000 10:22:27 -0800


>> In addition to all the problems it caused
>> this artist including a premature death, a huge contract that would have
>> provided life-long income was also kissed goodbye because the drinking
>> totally controlled this person's life.  This was not "occasional" or
>> "moderate" use of a substance.  As I said in my original post, controlled
>> or moderate use simply is not possible with someone who has an addiction.
>
>There is no moderate controlled abuse.

I never said there was.

>If you are depressed, you are looking for a way
>out. If only for the moment. If you have a better idea to help someone in a
>situation like that, you will soon be the most famous psychologist of all
>times!

I can't help but feel badly when someone thinks that the only way "out"
of a situation is to escape with abusive substances.  It's NOT the only
answer, everyone knows that.  All it does is cover up/mask what's really
the problem(s).  The answer is to get help--whether that means checking
yourself in with a counselor, psychiatrist, whoever, just get the help
needed.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Trivia! Who recorded this?
Date: 27 Mar 2000 11:20:59 PST


Hello,
  A friend sent me the following email. Please let me know if you can
identify the song/artist.


""Jim and I heard it on a latino radio station the other day, during a
program of !Classicos Rrrrrrromanticos!  (There is no response at the phone
number they gave for this all-request hour.)  They played two songs in a row
that sounded like it might be the same chick band, maybe from the '50's or
'60's.  Very trippy and slow, sounded like the TeleTubbies, or like Girl
From
Impanema on quaaludes.  The refrain from the second song was, "El muchacho
con
los ojos tristes..."

Jim wants this music, as the ultimate in summer driving by-the-Jersey-Shore
music.""

Thanks Heaps. A. Fish



______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) An Obituary Blunder
Date: 27 Mar 2000 14:56:18 -0500


At 11:18 PM 3/26/00 -0500, Brian Karasick wrote:
>
>I was announcing the tracks we were playing today during Space Bop and
>mentioned not knowing what Curtis Mayfield was doing these days.  We then
>received not one, not two, but three phone calls, all informing us he had
>died at least a year ago!

It was considerably less than a year ago.  In fact it happened in the last
few months.  As you know, there's a sort of tribute to Curtis in my film
and my titles weren't finished yet anyway so I added him to the "in memory
of" list.
But I felt a bit weird to do it because by all rights, the credits should
have been finished a long time ago, given that the film was finished before
the summer and he was alive at that time.

BTW, I have to thank Lou for one of the "in memory of"'s in my film.
Just as I was finishing the film, I read the obituary here for Waldo
Sermon, the guy who invented "vinyl" but who I had never heard of.  It
seemed appropriate that I should pay tribute to the guy who invented the
thing which my film was named for.

Anyway, Curtis is dead and according to last night's excruciating Oscars,
so is Jim Varney.  I think I knew that but obviously it was too painful so
I repressed it.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 27 Mar 2000 14:56:20 -0500


At 09:36 AM 3/27/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>
>  In the case of one particular
>artist, I've been told by two different people who were very close to
>this artist that alchohol was most definitely used as a constant
>"escape"; no one can make decent music staying drunk most of the time, so
>let's be real about this, ok?

Good idea.  Let's be real.  And let's look at the whole person.

They made music AND they "escaped" through drugs.  You seem to be saying
that they could have done one thing and not the other.  And I suppose that
technically speaking, they could have.
But they're connected.
And you don't have to fall back on romantic cliches about the artist and
the concept of "escapism" in order to see it.
You just have to be real about it, like you suggested.

I believe everyone needs an escape and everyone finds ways to do it.

There's a lot more you could say on the subject but I'm not sure what the
point was to begin with.
It's sad when people die.
It can be sad in a different way when they live.

In the case of certain musicians, I'm just glad they lived long enough to
make a little music I loved.  And I'm sad for their friends and family when
they die.  But I'm actually a lot sadder when they die in plane crashes or
assassinations.  When they die of drugs or alcohol, I take a more
fatalistic approach.
It's sort of like Jesus.
They were sent here for a short time with a message.
They weren't sent here to someday achieve lifetime achievement awards,
twenty to thirty years past the last time they did any good work.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious records
Date: 27 Mar 2000 15:00:55 -0500


At 11:17 PM 3/26/00 -0500, Brian Karasick wrote:
>
>Johan wrote:
>
>> "Christmas with Marcy, sing with Marcy" is by far the most weird xmas lp i
>> got. it's beyond funny, it's scary.
>You mean to say it's weirder than Culturcide's "Depressed Christmas" b/w
>"Santa Claus Was my Lover", sung (literally) over the tunes of White
>Christmas & Billy Jean respectively.
> I should perhaps take this back since
>Culturcide surely intended to be weird but I'm not sure I could say the same
>for Little Marcy!

I don't have the Xmas Marcy but I think I saw it in that period where I
absolutely refused to buy ANY Xmas LP's no matter how much I wanted them.
Oh well, who knew I'd someday become a Marcyphile.
And I can't imagine anyone doing anything weird on purpose and being as
weird as Marcy.

>At this rate I'm going to be the first to take Nat up on
>the Little Marcy box set once he gets that CD burner!

It's hard to believe after all my dreams of digital archiving, that it's
going to be Little Marcy that pushes me into it.

But while I'm here, let me ask this question again.
In order to get a CD burner, I would first have to get a new computer.  And
if I get a new computer, I need to get one powerful enough to do video
editing - or even that "firewire" thing - so that means that I have to
spend close to two grand before I get the CD burner.  And i don't have two
grand right now.
And then there's the fact that I'm not sure I want to have wires going from
room to room and it seems hard to imagine doing something in two rooms at
the same time.
So I was thinking of getting a minidisc recorder NOW and it would be part
of my stereo system and then I could start archiving right away for less
than five hundred bucks, I think.

Can someone tell me if this is stupid?  Should I just save the five hundred
bucks and wait till I can afford everything?

Or wouldn't it be better to someday go from minidisc to CD burner rather
than directly from the turntable to the computer?

Little Marcy fans need this answer as much as I do.

Nat





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 27 Mar 2000 15:25:46 -0500


At 10:11 AM 3/27/00 -0800, B.J. Major wrote:
>
>.  Someone's musical talent and gifts
>do not depend on drugs or alchohol.  You are either born with a talent
>for making music, or you're not.  Drugs and alchohol do not give anyone
>the "gift" of music.

That's not true.
Making music - or any art - involves a decision on the part of the
individual to actually try and express something.
It's not simply a response to realizing "Oh look.  I have talent".
Lots of people with talent do nothing to express it.  And lots of people
without much natural talent develop just enough craft to be able to express
themselves.
Most of the time, I avoid talking about "talent" at all.
But even if it has some meaning and relevance, it's still much more
significant HOW someone chooses to express themselves and WHAT they choose
to express.
Kenny G. is very talented.  So is Celine Dion.  So is Marvin Hamlisch.
But they choose to express their talent in ways that convey nothing to me.
It's not about life.  All they're expressing is "Look everyone.  I have
talent".

What someone chooses to express and how they choose to express it is
connected to their whole person and their life and their feelings.  You
can't separate their drug use - or any number of other self-destructive
habits - from all that.  It's in their very character.  You can't have one
without the other.
It's like asking an actor "Can't you just have a little less ego?"

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:28:19 -0800


>What someone chooses to express and how they choose to express it is
>connected to their whole person and their life and their feelings.  You
>can't separate their drug use - or any number of other self-destructive
>habits - from all that.  It's in their very character.  You can't have one
>without the other.
>It's like asking an actor "Can't you just have a little less ego?"

My last reply on this entire subject:  I know some musicians and some
actors who are not egomaniacs.  Yes, it's really possible for such a
species of person to exist--believe it or not.

To put a totally different spin on this entire thing, one I'm SURE
everyone on this list can relate to:  without having to worry about
having money for buying booze and drugs, I have more to spend on records
and CDs.  If you don't want to acknowledge the better health benefits
from not using chemicals, at least understand that there are other,
tangible benefits as well!

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:28:13 -0800


>They made music AND they "escaped" through drugs.  You seem to be saying
>that they could have done one thing and not the other.  And I suppose that
>technically speaking, they could have.
>But they're connected.

Sorry, I don't think they are connected.  Someone is *born* with musical
talent.  Talent they can express and use later on with or without the aid
of harmful chemicals.

>I believe everyone needs an escape and everyone finds ways to do it.

I would think that throwing yourself into the music you are creating
would be "escape-ism" enough.  When I'm listening to music, I don't need
the aid of anything else in order to enjoy it.  That's been my only point
from the beginning.

>In the case of certain musicians, I'm just glad they lived long enough to
>make a little music I loved.  And I'm sad for their friends and family when
>they die.  But I'm actually a lot sadder when they die in plane crashes or
>assassinations.

Actually, it's the plane/car crashes or assassinations over which they
would have NO control, and those would be the ones that suffer the
fatalistic ends to life.   You have control over your body and what you
put in it.  You have a choice whether to "insult" it with chemicals or
not.  Even people who are addicted can get help.  But they have to *want*
the help in order for it to do any good.  The point is, there is always a
choice that can be made for this.  Choices that don't exist when someone
dies in a way that is out of their control.

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Religious records
Date: 27 Mar 2000 13:28:24 -0800


>But while I'm here, let me ask this question again.
>In order to get a CD burner, I would first have to get a new computer.  And
>if I get a new computer, I need to get one powerful enough to do video
>editing - or even that "firewire" thing - so that means that I have to
>spend close to two grand before I get the CD burner.  And i don't have two
>grand right now.

Then think about getting a stand-alone CD burner that hooks up to your
home stereo system (no computer needed).  These start at about $299 and
go up several hundred from there.  Both Philips and Pioneer make them.
Of course, you cannot clean up LP audio with this kind of setup, you need
good software for that to take out the pops and surface noise, but at
least you can make CDs without having to buy a new computer.  Discs for
these cost a bit more, but if you buy them in bulk from a mail order
place, they turn out to be about $1.37 more each than computer CD-Rs.

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) npr 100
Date: 27 Mar 2000 16:42:11 -0500


How's this for a hopeless task?:

This year NPR is exploring the stories behind the 100 most important American musical works of the 20th century.

http://www.npr.org/programs/specials/vote/list100.html


At the site is a list of the 100 selections and realaudio features on a
bunch of them.

The item that comes closest to exotica is
SING, SING, SING, words/music LOUIS PRIMA (1936), as arranged by JIMMY MUNDY and performed by BENNY GOODMAN & HIS ORCHESTRA at Carnegie Hall (1938)

-Lou



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Drugs and Music
Date: 27 Mar 2000 14:00:40 -0800


....It brings me to
the only good argument against LSD I ever heard, by Anais Nin, who said,
that the problem with drugs, especially when you are an artist, is, that
you get what you want without a personal effort, you don't create
anymore, you only consume.

 Has anyone read Thomas De Quincey's 'Confessions of an English Opium-Eater'? He says exactly the same thing! De Quincey planned numerous novels but never got down to writing them because he was dosing up on laudanum all the time.  I think it was Charlie Parker, an addict himself, who said something to the effect of 'you really can't play anything when you're high.' Something like that.

  Don't you think a lot of this is cultural? I mean, we know smoking, drinking and doing drugs is injurious to our health now but that wasn't as well known in, say, the mid 50s. If you look at films like 'All About Eve' or 'The Maltese Falcon' or 'The Thin Man' just about everyone is smoking cigartte after cigarette and  downing martini after martini (of course Bogart, William Powell and Bette Davis were cancer victims). Magazines of the 50s and 60s were loaded with page after page of cigarette and alcohol ads. Now you'll see one or two alcohol ads and virtually no cigarette ads. Same goes for films today...even 'period' films like LA Confidential have hardly any smokers or drinkers.

   ~~Paul


MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime!
http://www.mailcity.lycos.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long)
Date: 27 Mar 2000 17:09:14 -0600


I just got the latest "Digest," heavy with this
topic, so I read through most of the posts, and
now I'm chiming in with my two cents worth:

Alcohol & drugs have been intertwined with humanity
going *way* back - e.g. Noah (as in Noah's Ark) made
it one of his first actions after the flood to plant
a vineyard and, guess what, when the harvest came,
the first thing he did was get drunk.  And Noah was
generally considered in those days (at least, by God,
so the story goes) to be about the only "good" person
on the earth.  But the story doesn't indicate he made
a habit out of getting drunk, nor does it claim he
only used alcohol occasionally.  So, perhaps we can
conclude he used alcohol in moderation. Proverbs warns
against drunkeness, but also says "Wine makes the heart
of man glad."  Jesus' first miracle was to turn water
into wine, and according to the account, it was good
stuff.  The Apostle Paul recommended wine to his protege
Timothy for his "frequent stomach ailments," but stated
that drunkards would not "enter the kingdom of heaven."
So it seems to me that even a large religious tradition
has cautioned about excessive alcohol consumption, but
recognized it as a common fact of human existence and
did not seek to ban its use.  I personally would
extrapolate from that position the same views on other
drugs, irrespective of governments' duplicity viz a viz
alcohol being legal but marijuana, etc. illegal.

I suppose that leaves it up to everyone's individual
choice.  It's "sad" to me that Jimi Hendrix died at
28 and that his fans didn't get a chance to hear him
continue to evolve (I listened again to a couple of
CD's over the weekend and I care not what anyone else
may say, the man remains untouched by anyone then or
since).  It's also "sad" to me that Stevie Ray Vaughn
had gotten himself clean (and I think also sober, i.e.
no alcohol) only to die a year or so later in a
helicopter crash.  If Hendrix's drug use was a
causative agent in his musical creativity, my selfish
enjoyment of his guitar playing and songwriting say
"go on Jimi, pop another tab."  I don't know whether
he was happy or not, or if drugs and alcohol were an
escape from pain or a common peer thing.  As a fellow
human, supposed to care more about the person than
what they create, I'd say, "Jimi, that stuff is
killing you; please stop."

Which brings me to my next point:  I seem to notice
a strong correlation between "professional creative
types", e.g. those who spend the majority of their
time working on their muse, as contrasted to "hobby
creatives" who have other ongoing work/jobs.  Look
at the high level of drug abuse in the acting community,
the painter/sculptor community, and the music community.
I also remember reading somewhere where there is a
high correlation between "creative" types and
"melancholy" personality tendencies - witness writers,
painters, and so many famous creatives from history
who struggled mightily with depression/melancholy
and also used drugs and/or alcohol more than common
folk.  Perhaps ongoing abuse/use is facilitated by
more "free time" or at least less structured time
(e.g. 9-5 workday).  Or perhaps it starts with
family modeling (or lack thereof - Drew Barrymore)
or peer pressure (I smoked pot starting at 16 not
to "escape" depression but because I had peers who
were doing it and I wanted to fit in - then I did
it because I liked getting high, and finally by
about 21 I quit because it had made me lackadaisical
about most things other than getting high and I
didn't want to live that way - I have been using
alcohol in moderation for 25+ years - have I gotten
drunk a number of times in those years? - sure - but
seldom was I drinking specifically to get drunk
[sometimes I did]; more often it was social situations
or taking a couple of drinks to relieve stress - I
generally don't drink during the week anymore, as
a personal choice to be healthier, or if I do drink,
it's usually wine with dinner with friends - I'm 42
next month).  But drug use has been, if not common,
at least more highly publicized among actors &
musicians - Bela Lugosi & heroin, Conan Doyle &
cocaine, Hendrix, Mama Cass, Jim Morrison, Robert
Downey, Jr. - and Betty Ford is probably more
famous for her clinic than as First Lady.  I also
note that people like James Taylor and Robert Plant
once used drugs and no longer do - I don't know
about alcohol. The other afternoon VH-1 had a special
on Crosby, Stills Nash & Young, including Graham Nash
relating a story about David Crosby interrupting a jam
they were working on when he saw his crack pipe starting
to fall off the amplifier. Nash said it was at that
moment he realized the drugs had become more important
to Crosby than the music.  But after a lot of people
helping him, and getting a new liver, I understand
Crosby is now clean and sober.

Of course, a discussion on gluttony could fill up another
couple of screens - is it a genetic predisposition, weak
character and lack of willpower, a desire to escape, a
deep love for rich food????  Or is it perhaps a
combination?  Was that old beer commercial tapping into
a common human trait when it suggested "you gotta grab
for all the gusto you can?"  Some folks who "relish
life" abstain for health or religious reasons from
alcohol and drugs, some use them in moderation, (most
folks), and some to gross excess (too many great
artists).

I'm rambling, but I suppose my conclusion is that
it is all personal responsibility and choice, with the
tendency to over-use a combination of many factors,
and that none of us can see inside another to fully
understand their motivations to partake or abstain.
But one of my favorite authors, Robert Heinlein, had a
recommendation he opined through his character Lazarus
Long:  "Everything in excess. Moderation is for monks."
I don't necessarily agree in reality, but I agree in
sentiment!  :) <Sorry for being so long-winded>
--
Mark D. Head
The Captain
[e-mail]
_______________________________________
TANSTAAFL!




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Record
Date: 28 Mar 2000 02:26:29 +0100


B.J. Major wrote:

>Actually, it's the plane/car crashes or assassinations over which they
>would have NO control, and those would be the ones that suffer the
>fatalistic ends to life.

They could avoid taking planes and trains and cars and escalators and high
heels, they could live in the countryside for the better air, they could
decide to leave the house only in emergency cases, they could do all kinds of
things to live safer and longer. At some point however a behaviour like this
can become really sick. Look at Michael Jackson.

>You have a choice whether to "insult" it with chemicals or not.

If you can afford it, of course. Some people are just poor and have to work in
an atomic power plant. Look at Homer Simpson.


> My last reply on this entire subject:  I know some musicians and some
> actors who are not egomaniacs.  Yes, it's really possible for such a
> species of person to exist--believe it or not.

The thing with the "ego" was just an example by Nat. I think we all agree that
there are artists who are not egomaniacs.

> To put a totally different spin on this entire thing, one I'm SURE
> everyone on this list can relate to:  without having to worry about
> having money for buying booze and drugs, I have more to spend on records and
> CDs.

You're drawing a nice connection between drugs and records. I'm sure Nat can
tell you a lot about people who substitute the voids in their lives with
records like others do with drugs. I don't dare to judge wether one is more
unhealthy than the other, after I've seen some of these people in Nat's film.
Depends.

> If you don't want to acknowledge the better health benefits
> from not using chemicals, at least understand that there are other,
> tangible benefits as well!

such as... no, I don't make another sarcastical joke here. I better shut up.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long)
Date: 28 Mar 2000 02:38:56 +0100


Thanks for your remarks, Mark. You could have added the name of John
Lennon who claimed to have taken a thousand LSD trips.

I agree there is a strong direct and indirect relation between all kinds
of arts and all kinds of drugs.  As far as my researches on this subject
over the years tell me, art can even be called a result of human
experiences with drugs in the first place. In early cultures drug use
was so frequent and often so organized by society, that you have to see
it as a cultural factor, probably as a factor of the development of
human mind in general.

This discussion is so difficult, because we talk about so many different
kinds of arts, different kinds of drugs and different kind of people who
take it in the most different kinds of ways. So what I don't want to
talk about is, why all kinds of people use or misuse all kinds of drugs
and if that's good or bad. I wanted to talk about, why and how
especially artists and art-loving people use drugs. I'm aware that drugs
can cause all kinds of problems, no question. But I can also see
clearly, how drugs have induced visonary forms of art, that really mean
something to me. Especially when talented people use the right drugs in
a way that you can see and hear it in their art. In fact I have my
diffculties NOT seeing it in the art of the last 50 years.

I am not saying that only drugs enable an artist to be good; that would
not only be too simple, it would be wrong. But I don't want to stick a
sign into drugs in general that says: Bad! Don't touch! And I don't say
that the more drugs one takes the better one becomes, but I respect an
artist who decides to rather live and possibly kill him/herself with
drugs in the name of a view that he has of him/herself as a creative
independent person. If drugs are a way for this person to overcome
limitations, at least for a limited time, that s/he doesn't accept, I
have to accept that.

Actually I don't want to argue for or against drugs. If you ask me to
make a statement pro or contra something, I would recommend the use of
certain drugs rather than other drugs and the use of the right dose of
them at the right time rather than an uncontrolled permanent abuse. But
I could only reflect my own view, with possibly little value for others.
Maybe we can all agree on this somehow.

For me something else is interesting right now: As I see it, the
original cultures of the South Seas used comparably few drugs. At least
I didn't read much about it, (unlike about other cultures like the
Indian American, the Middle and Far East, Africa and Europe). So I'm not
sure if this is really the case. I like to know, because I like these
cultures very much. It would even be a list-compatible subject. So there
may be something about South Sea people that I don't know or don't
understand, maybe even the possibility of an anti-thesis to what I think
in general, and I would like to know what it is. I also know little or
nothing about the drug use of the main creators and performers of
Exotica music, such as Baxter, Denny, Lyman, Esquivel et al, other than
cocktail drinking, and even that I don't know for sure. So if anyone
knows something about it and wants to tell it, I'm dying to read it.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) religous records
Date: 27 Mar 2000 21:42:49 -0500


I wanted to add something on the topic of religous records.  A few weeks
ago I came across a compilation of some top acts from 'Word Records',
which many of you know as one of the biggest supplier of Christian
themed LPs, based in Waco, Texas.

I bought the LP for its cover, which wasn't of some oddly dressed
quartet, or a weird looking ventriliquist doll ...instead I bought it
for the architecture.

The cover had a picture of the 'Word' headquarters, and it was a great
example of 1950's/60's googie style architecure.  The front entrance had
this big canopy structure over the front doors - and this canopy was
shaped as a low, wide, and angular letter 'W'  Immediatly to the right
of this 'W' , on the (I think) brick face of the building were the
letters 'ORD'

All I can say is that although much of Word's music may be a bit lame (I
haven't bothered putting the LP on the turntable yet), but they did have
one cool building way back then.

Vern



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Al Grey, Helen Martin, Jim Cash, Raymond Katz, Joe Talbot, William Einhorn, Cab Kaye, Vivian Harris
Date: 27 Mar 2000 09:56:20 -0500


    PHOENIX (AP) -- Al Grey, a prolific jazz trombonist whose unique
plunger-mute style was recorded on nearly 100 albums, died Friday.
He was 74 and had suffered from several ailments, including
diabetes.
    While musicians don't like to compare themselves to one another,
bass player Milt Hinton, who gained fame as part of the Cab
Calloway Band, said Grey was certainly among the best of his
generation.
    Grey played with a litany of jazz's elite during his career,
including Benny Carter, Frank Sinatra, Lionel Hampton, Dizzy
Gillespie, Count Basie and Ella Fitzgerald.
    His sound was marked by his use of the plunger mute, a technique
on which he wrote a book.
    Grey joined Count Basie in 1957 and played with him on three
separate occasions, the last from 1971 to 1977.
    In all, he recorded nearly 30 albums of his own and appeared on
another 70 records. Among them was the Grammy-nominated movie
soundtrack for ``The Color Purple.''
    Grey was born on June 6, 1925, in Aldie, Va. He learned to play
trombone from his father, who taught a neighborhood youth band in
Pottstown, Penn., said his son Albert Jr.
    Later, the jazz trombonist followed in his father's footsteps,
teaching children in his Philadelphia neighborhood between gigs.
    ``With him, he just enjoyed playing,'' Albert Jr. said. ``He
wasn't always about getting paid. He would just come in. If he knew
some other players in a club, he would just pull out his horn and
play.''
http://elvispelvis.com/algrey.htm
----
 *Helen Martin
    MONTEREY, Calif. (AP) -- Helen Martin, known for her role as the
neighbor Pearl in the television series ''227,'' died Saturday of a
heart attack. She was 90.
    Martin was raised in Nashville and originally made a name for
herself on Broadway, starring in such productions as ``Deep are the
Roots,'' ``The Long Dream'' and ``Amen Corner.'' She was one of the
original members of Harlem's American Negro Theatre.
    In 1973, she was cast in the television comedy ``That's My
Momma.'' She appeared in continuing roles on five television
series, including ``Good Times'' and ''227.''
    Martin also appeared in numerous films, including ``Bulworth''
and ``Beverly Hills Cop III.'' She was nominated for an NAACP Image
Award for her role as the grandmother in Robert Townsend's
``Hollywood Shuffle.''
    She had just completed the film ``Something to Sing About,''
scheduled for release this spring.
-------
    EAST LANSING, Mich. (AP) -- Screenwriter Jim Cash, who co-wrote
films such as ``Top Gun'' and ``Dick Tracy,'' died Friday at the
age of 59.
    The cause of death was not immediately released, said Terry
Denbow, a spokesman at Michigan State University, where Cash was a
professor of English and American Thought and Language. Cash had
been hospitalized about four weeks with an intestinal ailment.
    Cash and Jack Epps Jr. wrote films such as ``Legal Eagles'' and
``The Secret of My Success'' despite living 2,000 miles apart.
    Cash worked in East Lansing while Epps wrote in Culver City,
Calif., handling much of the team's Hollywood business. Cash was
good at dialogue, while Epps specialized in story.
    The two were linked by speakerphone and dual computer screens
flashing text simultaneously.
-----
HOLLYWOOD (Variety) -

Raymond Katz, an Emmy award-winning TV, theatrical and Broadway producer, died Thursday at
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center following a brief illness. He was 83.

Katz is perhaps best remembered for the management and production business he and his
partner Sandy Gallin ran for 15 years. Between 1970 and 1985 they created and produced
``Donny and Marie'' TV series in addition to other series and numerous specials, including
specials featuring Mac Davis, Paul Lynde, Dolly Parton, Cher and the Emmy winning special
``Sold Out,'' which starred Lily Tomlin and the late Kate Smith.

In the early 1980s, they turned to TV films, which included ``The Miracle Worker'' ``Diary
of Anne Frank,'' ``Choices of the Heart,'' ``Family Secrets,'' ''Splendor in the Grass''
and ``Without Her Consent.''

They also produced ``Mussolini: The Untold Story'' for NBC and ``Stagecoach'' for CBS.

Born and reared in New York, Katz began his career as a stage manager at the (then famous)
Capital Theatre on Broadway. Following World War II service, where he directed the NBC
radio show ``Navy Hour,'' he returned to MGM's New York radio station WHN, where he served
as program director.

 He subsequently helped create a radio syndication division for original programming known
as MGM Radio Attractions, which boasted such weekly series as ``Maisie'' starring Ann
Sothern and ``Woman of the Year'' headlining Bette Davis.

In 1960, he resigned as co-director of the radio station to devote his full time to the
personal management business.

In 1988, Katz produced the feature ``I'm Gonna Git You Sucka'' for United Artists and the
following year produced ``The Debbie Allen Special.''

He also produced several Broadway shows including ``After the Miracle'' and ``Boys of
Winter.''

In 1991, Katz joined with Herman Rush in establishing Katz-Rush Entertainment, which
produced 13 episodes of ``The New Original Amateur Hour'' for the Family Channel. They
also produced a pilot for NBC starring Gerry Spence titled ``Injustice For All'' and
``Miss America: Behind the Crown.''
-----
NASHVILLE (Reuters) -

Veteran country music executive Joe Talbot died Friday of lung cancer, his family said. He
was 72.

Talbot started his music career playing steel guitar for the late legendary Hank Snow and
became an influential record manufacturer and a leading song publisher.

He was past chairman of both the Country Music Association and the Country Music
Foundation and a long time advocate of traditional country music.

Talbot performed on the Grand Ole Opry with Snow in 1951-52. He toured with the singer
while continuing studies at Vanderbilt University, which led to a law degree.

He was one of the founders of United Record Pressing, a Nashville record company that made
vinyl discs for Elvis Presley and the Motown Records acts.
------
William Einhorn

William Einhorn, one of the early pioneers of television, died March 11 in
West Palm Beach, Fla. He was 85.

A graduate of Columbia U., Einhorn is perhaps best known as the producer and
director of "Learn to Draw," one of NBCÆs first regularly scheduled
programs, in association with Jon Gnagy, one of TVÆs first art teachers.

"Learn to Draw" ran on more than 100 TV stations through the mid-1970s,
becoming one of the longest-running programs in TV history. Einhorn also
created a line of "Learn to Draw" kits and wrote the book, music and lyrics
to two of its revived community stage shows.

Einhorn is survived by his wife, Lydia, and a son, Stephen, president and
chief operating officer of New Line Home Video.
-----
Times of London ---

CAB KAYE

Cab Kaye, jazz singer and pianist, was born in London on September 3, 1921.
He died in Amsterdam on March 13 aged 78


PERSONABLE and entertaining, Cab Kaye was a leading singer on the British
jazz scene from the late 1930s until the 1960s. He was particularly notable
for accommodating the modern jazz ideas of Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie
Parker into his singing, and he forged an individual bebop style that took
forward the work of American vocalists such as Joe Carroll and Kenny Hagood.
He was one of the most footloose and well-travelled of musicians. This was
true outside his musical life, from his early days as a merchant seaman to
his work as a government official in Ghana, but he was equally cosmopolitan
as an entertainer. He took his own band all over Europe in the 1950s, sang
in the after-hours nightclubs of Paris and New York, and eventually opened
his own piano bar in Amsterdam in the 1980s.

Cab Kaye was born Augustus Kwamlah Quaye. His father, the Ghanaian pianist
Caleb Jonas Quaye, was also a musician, and had played the music hall
circuit, through which he met his wife, Doris.

At the start of the 1920s, going by the name of Mope Desmond, Quaye played
for the American jazzmen Sidney Bechet and Arthur Briggs in London, before
being killed in a railway accident when his son was four months old.
Fortunately a life assurance policy saved the family from dire hardship, and
in due course Kaye followed in his father's footsteps, becoming a singer
with Billy Cotton's band when he was 15.

As both singer and pianist he worked with several bands, including those of
Ivor Kirchin and Ken "Snakehips" Johnson, before joining the Merchant Navy
in 1941.

The following year he was invalided out, and he spent time recuperating in
New York, where he sat in with several famous jazz musicians before becoming
one of the coterie of entertainers who worked in wartime London. There he
led his own band and sang with Leslie "Jiver" Hutchinson (a former star of
"Snakehips" Johnson's orchestra who survived the air raid at the CafΘ de
Paris which killed several of his fellows).

After the war Kaye sang with Tito Burns and with Ted Heath's Orchestra, and
in the early 1950s he began to make records both with his own group (which
included the West Indian trumpeter Dave Wilkins) and with such British
pioneers of modern jazz as the pianist Gerry Moore and the drummer Norman
Burns.

He continued to record regularly, and one of his best-known discs was a
collaboration with Humphrey Lyttelton from 1960, which included his
characteristic witty vocals on pieces such as Let Sleeping Love Lie.

By the time he made that recording, Kaye had worked regularly in The
Netherlands, France and Germany, and in 1961 his wanderlust took him to
Ghana, where he worked briefly for the Government. Following a spell in
Nigeria, and engagements in the US, he returned to Britain in the early
1970s, once again using London as a base for international touring. He
finally settled in Amsterdam, and in 1984 recorded a solo piano disc that
captures aspects of the act he performed at his club.

His son, Caleb Quaye, and daughter, Terri Naa-Koshie Quaye, both became
professional musicians.
--------
NY Times --- March 26, 2000

Vivian Harris, Comedian, Chorus Girl and Longtime 'Voice of the Apollo,'
Dies at 97

By DOUGLAS MARTIN

Vivian Harris, a comedian and chorus girl and the performer with the most
recorded appearances -- 10,000 -- at the Apollo Theater in Harlem, died Feb.
18 in Englewood, N.J. She was 97.

Ms. Harris, who died at the Nursing and Retirement Home of the Actors Fund
of America, was one of the women hired by the manager of the Cotton Club for
a new chorus line when Duke Ellington came to play for the white audience
there. She was one of the first ever to dance the Charleston, in the 1923
Broadway show "Runnin' Wild."

She performed with the top black comics Pigmeat Markham, Spider Bruce and
Ralph Cooper during the Depression years, when comedy kept the Apollo
afloat.

Leonard Reed, a singer and dancer at the Apollo in 1935 and theater manager
from 1950 to 1960, remembers her as "one of the sweetest girls I ever met in
my life." Indeed, the two were sweethearts from 1927 until 1929. Until the
Apollo started using masters of ceremony in the mid-1950's, he said, it was
her voice, clear and precise, that came from behind the curtain to announce
the night's big attraction.

"She would say, 'The Apollo Theater takes great pleasure in presenting Duke
Ellington' or Cab Calloway, or whoever," he said.

William Miles, a filmmaker who made the 1981 documentary "I Remember
Harlem," said Ms. Harris was known as the Voice of the Apollo. In addition
to her announcements, he said, she often sang "I May Be Wrong, but I Think
You're Wonderful."

Ms. Harris was born on Dec. 23, 1902, in Harlem. She was the second of five
daughters; the others were Lottie, Margie, Lorraine and Edna Mae, who became
a star of the black cinema. Her father, Sam, gained some fame as a boxer and
then became a customs inspector. Her mother, Mary, worked as a maid for the
Gay 90's pin-up Lillian Russell, among others.

As blacks gradually moved uptown, the Harrises were among the first black
families to migrate to Harlem. They wanted to be near the new home of their
church. Their brownstone on 132nd Street was also near the Lafayette
Theater, where stars like Ethel Waters, Maud Russell and Butterbeans and
Susie would perform.

Her sister Lottie was something of a groupie; she would invite the
performers to the house for dinner and often to stay for the night. Mr.
Harris said, "I might as well open a rooming house," and did.

This resulted in the stars' practicing routines in the house's big kitchen.
They worked with the girls on their singing and dancing skills and
encouraged them to pursue show business careers. All but Margie did.

After graduating from Julia Richmond High School, Vivian joined "Shuffle
Along," the Broadway production put together in 1921 by the ragtime pianist
Eubie Blake and the singer and lyricist Noble Sissle. The show ushered in a
series of successful black musicals on Broadway.

Ms. Harris went on to be a chorus girl in "Runnin' Wild," with music by
James P. Johnson and lyrics by Cecil Mack, which added a new dance, the
Charleston, to the national repertory. Mae Barnes introduced the dance in
the first act, but Ms. Harris's spirited third-act version also drew
enthusiastic attention.

An unsigned review in The New York Times of Oct. 31, 1923, said that in
addition to its funny comedy, the show "excels in eccentric dancing -- some
of the most exciting steps of the season (though steps is not always the
right word, for knees are used more often than ankles) are now on view at
the Colonial."

Ms. Harris performed in other productions on what came to be known as Black
Broadway. She traveled to Paris, London and other European cities with Lew
Leslie's "Blackbirds," a theatrical revue. Working with Tim Moore, who
became famous as Kingfish in the "Amos 'n' Andy" television series, she
performed the burial scene from the play "Porgy," the precursor to the same
scene in Gershwin's opera "Porgy and Bess."

When Duke Ellington started at the Cotton Club in 1927, the manager hired a
new chorus line, which included Ms. Harris. "They had nothing but light
girls, they didn't have any real dark girls there at the time," Ms. Harris
said in the Harlem documentary. "Only the two girls at the ends of the line
were dark." She was considered light.

The women wore big, feathery costumes, and Ms. Harris's exotic tap dance
caught the eye of one of Ellington's trumpet players, Louis Metcalf. The two
were married, with cases of Champagne to celebrate, despite Prohibition. Ms.
Harris said the gangsters who controlled the Cotton Club were the
benefactors.

In 1935 Frank Schiffman, the manager of the Lafayette Theater, bought a
burlesque house on 125th Street that Mayor Fiorello H. La Guardia had
ordered closed. It became the Apollo.

Ms. Harris started there in 1935 as the voice behind the curtain, and over
the years performed with almost all the popular black comedy acts. She
played in the first rendition of Pigmeat Markham's "Here comes the judge"
skit, immortalized for a later generation by Flip Wilson.


In Dusty Fletcher's "Open the door, Richard" skit, another classic of the
black comedic stage, she played the woman in the window Dusty vainly tried
to reach.

When Mr. Moore went out to California to play Kingfish on "Amos 'n' Andy,"
he recommended Ms. Harris to play Kingfish's wife, Sapphire. She flunked the
screen test.

"I came out looking too white," Ms. Harris said. "I was rejected and it
broke my heart."

But she stayed at the Apollo until 1970, working as cashier and in the
wardrobe department when she was not onstage. Undoubtedly, some of her
10,000 appearances involved exchanging tickets for money in the box office.

Her sister Edna Mae, who left home to star in films, including "The Green
Pastures" in 1936 and "The Notorious Elinor Lee" in 1940, always lamented
that her sister did not aim higher.

"She could have had a career like Ethel Waters or Alberta Hunter," Edna Mae
said in the 1980's. "I still don't know why she stayed."

Vivian's marriage was brief, and she never remarried. There are no immediate
survivors. But when she visited Harlem, as she did almost every day until
recent years, everybody greeted her.

Mr. Reed, Ms. Harris's long-ago boyfriend, was known for his theme song,
"It's Over Because We're Through." But he says he cannot remember why he and
Ms. Harris broke up.

"There wasn't a hate bone in Vivian's body," he said.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Palm Beach Band Boys
Date: 27 Mar 2000 23:28:59 -0500


Here's a novelty... a post about a rekkid.

I don't recall ever seeing anything on here about this one:

The Palm Beach Band Boys
"Winchester Cathedral"
(RCA Victor, 1966)

A little artifact from the faux-20s fad that had its little flash at the
time. Who's behind this one? Arranged by none other than Billy Mure;
produced by Danny Davis. To my ears, it's basically Now Sound with some 20s
touches sprinkled on top. Certainly not concerned with authenticity, with
lots of crisp electric rhythm guitar and occasional barks of fuzz guitar. A
bit of megaphone vocals on some tracks (by Roger Rigney), but the focus is
mainly instrumental. Not a stunner, but amusing and a little different.

More details: Recorded in RCA Victor's Studios A and B, New York City.
Recording engineer, Bob Simpson.

Dust liner bonus: an ad promoting RCA's 8-track tape line.

So has anyone else run across this record, or is it a real oddball?

Or... any other interesting relics from the 60s/20s episode? Yes, I know
there was some pretty dreadful stuff, which is why this one was a pleasant
surprise.

Thanks,

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) religous records
Date: 27 Mar 2000 20:29:20 -0800


>All I can say is that although much of Word's music may be a bit lame (I
>haven't bothered putting the LP on the turntable yet), but they did have
>one cool building way back then.

Interesting post about the architecture of the building, I never knew
anything about the company per se or its "headquarters"--though I
definitely do recall that their labels always said 'Waco, Texas' on them.
 But I have to be honest in saying that I really don't believe that "much
of Word's music is a bit lame".  I don't know how old the LP you have is
or what group of musicians is on it.  At least, back in the late 1960s
early 1970s when I was exposed to their LPs, they had quite a number of
fine musicians playing on them (Ralph Carmichael included).  If you can
stand (and, get past) the constant Christian salvation message (that
never lets up) which is piped at you through the lyrics, I think you'll
see what I mean when you listen to the music.

And that reminds me.  The Catholic Church had their own version of
"religious records", too.  Something I had totally forgotten about until
just now.  Four priests (very good looking guys, I might add) formed a
group called "The Damians" and their LPs were available in Catholic
religious goods stores for years.  They were strictly vocal and guitar,
but they were quite popular, as I recall...

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher NEWSFLASH
Date: 28 Mar 2000 15:11:35 +1000


Any of you into the classic prepared-piano F&T stuff, git yer heinies over
to the F&T site and click on NEWS...this is the biggest coolest piece of
good news I've heard in a brand spankin' new millenium.

http://www.artclik.com/twingrands/ft.html

Yippee!!!!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) religous records
Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:36:31 +1000


on 28/3/00 12:42 PM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:


> I bought the LP for its cover, which wasn't of some oddly dressed
> quartet, or a weird looking ventriliquist doll ...instead I bought it
> for the architecture.

On a sorta related tack I have a Word record called "Carillion" which is
specially produced to be played from Church spires that don't contain real
bells. It claims to be recorded "binaurally" but as it is in mono I think
that it may have lost some of it's ambience!

Philip
--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long)
Date: 28 Mar 2000 04:37:06 -0500


At 05:09 PM 3/27/00 -0600, Mark D. Head wrote:
>
>

>I also remember reading somewhere where there is a
>high correlation between "creative" types and
>"melancholy" personality tendencies - witness writers,
>painters, and so many famous creatives from history
>who struggled mightily with depression/melancholy
>and also used drugs and/or alcohol more than common
>folk.

Right.  But don't you understand?  They should just listen to BJ's sage
advice and stop drinking or taking drugs.  And if they feel like they're
flying a bit too close to the sun, they should just fly a little lower.
And they're probably only melancholy because they drink so much.  And if
they drank less and played music more, maybe they wouldn't be so depressed.
This will work for any musician or artist.  Just ask Nancy Reagan.
There is absolutely no personal price to be paid by those in society who
feel things a bit deeper than others and any artist who hides behind that
is just weak.
We don't tolerate the paper boy getting drunk because of the pressure of
making change.  We should no more tolerate the artist for whatever pressure
they feel.
All they have to do is sit down at the piano and let their natural talent
flow and then they'll have all kinds of good ideas and then they can just
execute those ideas and live a long happy life and we'll all be the richer
for it.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) classic titles
Date: 28 Mar 2000 04:37:00 -0500


At the record show yesterday...
I got this record by the Challengers.  I have another record where they
team up with Billy Strange.
And they're not exactly the hottest Venturesque instrumental guitar band
around.
But they'll forever more hold a warm place in my heart for the title of the
record.
"Light my fire with Classical Gas".
They can't be the only band that came up with something so obvious but
brilliant.

I got a lot of records.  I went for quality over quantity and it pretty
well worked but in the end it just meant I spent a bit of extra money to
try and get both.
I got the Ventures in Space, which I already had on CD but I guess I forgot
what a truly great record it is.  Especially that cut "The Bat".  Whoohoo!

Got lotsa soft pop too including two more Orpheus records (a JimmyB fave)
and a double Association live.  Also The Cowsills answer to "Sergeant
Pepper", II by II.

And an great soundtrack record which I first saw at Will Straw's.  "The
Wild Eye".  I never even heard it but wanted it anyway.  Now that I've
heard it, wow!

The only more "loungey" stuff I got was Les Baxter's Teen Drums and "Basie
meets Bond".  I must say that the cover on the Baxter left me totally
unprepared for how "exotic" the music inside is.

Anybody got any other titles as good as that "light my fire" one?

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Music
Date: 28 Mar 2000 09:45:42 +0000



  Don't you think a lot of this is cultural? I mean, we know smoking,
drinking and doing drugs is injurious to our health now but that wasn't as
well known in, say, the mid 50s. If you look at films like 'All About Eve'
or 'The Maltese Falcon' or 'The Thin Man' just about everyone is smoking
cigartte after cigarette and  downing martini after martini (of course
Bogart, William Powell and Bette Davis were cancer victims). Magazines of
the 50s and 60s were loaded with page after page of cigarette and alcohol
ads. Now you'll see one or two alcohol ads and virtually no cigarette ads.
Same goes for films today...even 'period' films like LA Confidential have
hardly any smokers or drinkers.



I know we've probably had enough on the subject but this comment is
interesting. America seems so set on a moral crusade these days. Hollywood
leads can't drink, smoke or take drugs, eat fatty foods or tell anyone they
love them but they can kill anyone who looks at them funny.
It seems that as America's moral sphincter tightens, common sense and
'balance' are being lost in a bizarre moral panic. Using cannabis, for
example and drinking have been going on for well over 4,000 years and
haven't killed many people but of course, both have been made illegal by
the American government within the last 100 years, while gun laws seem open
and overly-relaxed, prison populations are huge and people are being locked
up for longer, for lesser crimes. Trends in the media towards a moral high
ground seem to be based on a more and more confused distinction between
what is right and wrong. Alcohol? killing? sex? a joint? an unhealthy diet?
homosexuality? And if the media is a reflection of the zeitgeist of the
country, is it indicative of a similarly confused population?


Apologies for the continuing of this wildly OT subject now.


Charlie





+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Exotic travel and drugs
Date: 28 Mar 2000 08:33:51 -0500


A few years ago I attended a great weekend workshop, taught by the singer
Donovan himself, which was called "Music and the Myth"  Some of the things I
learned there might be applicable to the recent drugs, music, and exotic
locations theme going around.

Long ago, travel was a very risky business.  Many times it was associated with
going off to some foreign land to fight some battle, or leaving for years to
search for ones fortune.  Much of the classic mythology concerns this theme -
leaving home, and being able to tell tales to one's family and neighbors of
their tales when they return.  When one left home, it was with a strong
possibility that one might not return.  Not everyone survived, but when they
did, they were looked upon as heroes.  The urge to 'go out, experience the
world, and return home' may be a universal trait that hits many of us.

In the last 100 years, with the rise of jet travel, the ability to fly across
the world has been made much easier.  It doesn't amaze us as much when we meet
someone who has traveled to Mongolia, or Bali, or any other exotic location.
Exotic travel has lost a bit of its glamour.

Yet, the urge to experience other worlds and new things is still quite strong.
We still perhaps honor the people who choose to venture off into dangerous
worlds and who make it back safely..... and some of this attitude is applied to
those who venture off into the potentially dangerous world of drugs.  Our
culture is filled with people who experimented with drugs, and later cleaned up
their act and wrote and told us about it. Often we honor them in the way
today's culture can - financially through various book and movie deals.  For
those of us who live routine lives, their experiences can appear to be very
exotic.

Many people take drugs just because they are too bored with their lives, and
they are looking for a little excitement.  Unfortunately, for too many of them,
drugs may appear to offer the only opportunity for an exciting life.

Many of the most effective drug counselors today are ex-addicts themselves.
Teenagers will often respond more readily to their 'tales of adventures' rather
than some adult who has never taken such a journey and simply says 'Just say
No'  Young people still want to hear of people risking their lives and making
it back alive (i.e. the popularity of John McCain), and for many, simply
hearing the tales is all they need to fulfill their lives.  Others may feel
that itch to explore further - and some end up doing something creative and
worthy, and some end up doing the drug route.

thanks for reading,
Vern









# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) drugs n stuff
Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:42:29 +0100


I can't remember where I read it,  may have been here,  but there was a
piece about a Jazz programme on a BBC radio show and the attitude of people
in that community to drugs, how they felt it had been misrepresented.

Briefly, it came out as a communal rebellion against straight life,  part of
the sense of a group outside society.  I apologise if this is a (typically)
misremembered reposting of something already said,  I will try and find the
original article.

Just a different angle on the drugs thing.

On a personal note,  I was a young and twisted man,  drank too much,  took
too many drugs,  wrote many songs and poems.  Some of them I'm even proud
of.  As I've grown older,  sorted out my life,  drink much much less,
drifted away from drugs,  I'm just not driven the same way.  Not to be
misunderstood,  I think it was the things that made me miserable that made
me write,  and made  me drink.

But I feel thats not the kind of songwriting that this list is really about.
Most of the songs we celebrate here (in the purer Exotica sense) are crafted
songs written by professional songwriters,  who didn't write to exorcise
what made them sad,  but to make money and capitalise on a talent that they
had for tunes or the crafty rhyme.  though I do recognise that many of us
have an affinity with the darker stuff.  Myself included.

And I was disappointed to read recently that Scott Walker had *experimented*
with heroin,  and as BJ says you must say 'Scott,  you've got to stop it'.

Sorry to ramble

El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotic travel and drugs
Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:02:47 +0000


Travel and drugs, a different way of life and drugs or just rebellion
against society.

My ex-girlfriend grew up in a hippy, drug-filled house and rebelled against
her parents in her late teens by refusing to snort any more of her father's
cocaine or smoke any more of her mother's skunk. Her parents threw her out
of the house and she got mixed mixed up with the wrong people, turning to a
life of abstinence, dinking mineral water, eating vegetables and going to
debates and spritiual meetings. After years of this she ended up in an
institute, a complete nervous wreck, seeing visions and spouting bizarre
prophecies. She was never the same again.

Only kidding (most of it)!


So can we start a thread about direct references to drugs in music? Wasn't
Brian Wilson tripping when he wrote (composed? cobbled together?) Good
Vibrations? Cocaine turning reggae into ragga? Acid house, Ecstacy and
raving? Speed, mods and Northern Soul? The psychedelic movement? Be-bop
skag and tea?


Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Ian Dury, Jack Haley, Alex Comfort
Date: 28 Mar 2000 09:53:51 -0500



    LONDON (AP) -- Singer Ian Dury, who rode the punk bandwagon in
the 1970s with the singles ``Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick'' and
``Reasons to be Cheerful (Part 3),'' died Monday. He was 57.
    Dury, whose clever, exuberant, Cockney-accented lyrics were
backed by a band called the Blockheads, died after a five-year bout
with colon cancer, which spread to his liver.
    A statement from his record label, East Central One, said he
died peacefully at home with his family, with ``a smile on his
face.''
    Dury was partially crippled by polio at age 7, and he was a
lifelong campaigner for acceptance of disabilities and eradication
of polio.
    Despite his battle with cancer, he continued to work for
children's aid organizations and appear in television ads.
    After graduating from school, Dury pursued a career in art as an
illustrator and teacher. It wasn't until 1970 that he turned
seriously to music, forming a group called Kilburn and the High
Roads that was characterized by Dury's wry, gravel-voiced vocals.
    The group mostly struggled for seven years, but the formation of
Ian Dury and the Blockheads in 1977 helped him finally taste
success -- even though, at 35, he was almost two decades older than
the archetypal punk rocker.
    Dury and the Blockheads were signed to independent Stiff
Records, and the group's 1977 tour with other Stiff artists,
including Elvis Costello and Nick Lowe, served as a springboard for
the so-called New Wave, a gentler, more thoughtful offshoot of
punk.
    As rock 'n' roll became ``exhausting,'' Dury segued into acting,
taking roles in movies ranging from Roman Polanski's ``Pirates'' to
Peter Greenaway's ``The Cook, The Thief, His Wife And Her Lover.''
    He also wrote a musical, ``Apples,'' that was staged at London's
Royal Court Theatre in 1989.
    Among Dury's survivors are his four children -- two from his
first marriage, which ended in divorce in 1985, and two from his
second marriage to sculptress Sophie Tilson.
    Funeral arrangements were pending.
--------------
    SEAL BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Jack Haley, the surfer who helped
usher in the ``golden age'' of the sport from the 1940s to the
1960s, has died of cancer. He was 65.
    Haley, who won the first U.S. Open of Surfing at Huntington
Beach in 1959, died Saturday.
    Haley was inducted last year into the Huntington Beach Surfing
Walk of Fame and the Seal Beach Surfing Hall of Fame. He was a
longtime lifeguard at Seal Beach.
    He opened a surfboard shop in Seal Beach in 1960, and in 1965
opened Captain Jack's, a Sunset Beach restaurant that remains one
of the best known in Orange County.
    His oldest son, Jack Jr., played professional basketball,
including two seasons with the Los Angeles Lakers.
    Haley is survived by his mother, Virginia Haley of Seal Beach,
wife Jeanette, sons Jack and Tim, daughter Sondra and two
grandchildren.
-------
    LONDON (AP) -- British author Alex Comfort, who gained
international fame for his best selling ``The Joy of Sex,'' has
died. He was 80.
    Comfort, who was also a poet and nuclear disarmament campaigner,
died Sunday night in Oxfordshire. The cause of death wasn't
immediately available. He had suffered a series of strokes in the
past nine years and was being cared for at a nursing home.
    ``The Joy of Sex'', published in 1972, sold 12 million copies
worldwide and was translated into two dozens languages. Billed as
the ``gourmet guide to lovemaking,'' it contained text and
illustrations of love making.
    The book gained Comfort a reputation -- unfairly in the view of
his supporters -- as an advocate of promiscuity.
    Comfort, who frequently said he was irritated that he was always
remembered for the sex manual rather than his other extensive work,
nevertheless acknowledged that it was pioneering.
    ``Before my book, writing about sex gave the impression of being
written by non-playing coaches,'' he once said.
    ``The Joy of Sex'' was one of 50 books written by Comfort. He
also produced novels, poetry, criticism, scientific textbooks and
books on oriental philosophy. It was followed in 1974 by ``More Joy
of Sex'' and ``The New Joy of Sex'' in 1991.
    He was a leading anarchist, pacifist and a member of the
Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament and was a conscientious objector
during World War II.
    In the 1970s, he moved to the United States, lecturing at the
Department of Psychiatry at Stanford University from 1974-1983.
From 1980-1991 he was a professor at the Neuropsychiatric Institute
at the University of California.
    Comfort's first marriage ended in divorce. His second wife, Jane
Henderson, died in 1991.
    He is survived by a son from his first marriage and three
grandchildren.
    There were no immediate details of funeral arrangements.
-------






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles
Date: 28 Mar 2000 10:08:10 EST


<< And an great soundtrack record which I first saw at Will Straw's.  "The
 Wild Eye".  I never even heard it but wanted it anyway.  Now that I've
 heard it, wow! >>

I didn't know about this Italian OST, but the era (late 60s) and your "wow"
is enough to put it on my list.  Composed by Gianni Marchetti on the RCA
label.  Marty Manning is in there too according to my guide.

First place I check for it?  Ebay.  Where I find three VG+ to NM mint copies
which all closed recently with no bids with minimums under ten bucks.

Ebay tip:  search the completed items.  if something closes with no bids,
contact the seller anyway.  9 times our of 10 they will be happy to sell it
to you.

thanks for the tip-off Nat...






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long)
Date: 28 Mar 2000 09:57:33 -0500


I'd say a couple of things. First, Mark, thanks for speaking your heart
with such frankness. Your comments struck me as balanced and shrewd.

Second, I think some artists use drugs to simulate the transcendence one
feels in the sublime state of creating art. I'll out myself as a poet here
(hence Blake) and say when I've been composing my best poems, my state of
consciousness shifts. The only thing that matters, the only thing I'm
conscious off is the world of the poem and my role as midwife in bringing
the poem to life. And that act of composition is sublime. To be lost in the
state of making is to switch one's reality. It is a higher state of
reality; no interference with yakety yak thoughts of paying bills, what's
for dinner, the trouble my kid is having with the schoolyard bully, daily
prosaic worries. I imagine this state of consciousness also visits some
musicians.

To have that capacity is a gift but a gift that comes with burdens,
drawbacks, responsibilities. Burdens in that it's hard work to develop a
talent. Craft is demanding. I screw up a lot, I fail to meet my vision, or
I come close, very close, but know the poem isn't there. And I can't figure
out how to solve the problem. Frustration a go go. It's painful. Drawbacks
in that there's always a part of me that wants to return to that sublime
state of creation. This is a constant and  sometimes infernal hunger. It is
an obligation that I cannot always meet, even as that hunger prods me.
Responsibilities because in making poems I need to figure out always the
purpose of the poem: why is this poem coming to life? How can I, with all
my limitations, make this poem the best it can be? Do I have an obligation
with this poem to make it clear and easily understood by anyone who might
encounter it? Or are there other principles operating in the poem--this
poem is meant to be for other poets only? It's meant to make sense only for
itself?

=46or me, drugs or alcohol have never loosed a poem or helped me achieve the
visionary transcendence. Personally I can't handle pot or psychedelics, and
alcohol only dulls me. But these substances have been used with great
affect by other artists--they become a way to directly connect to that
place where one can create. Coleridge's famous "Kubla Khan" was a direct
result of a vision he had from laudanum or opium--I can't remember which.
The poem was unfurled in his head in a laudanum dream. But also because of
laudanum, he passed out and was able to reconstruct the poem later in
fragments only. And laudanum use also eroded his gift. Poe--poor Poe. Jim
Morrison came up--he used drugs for the purposes of transcendence as well
as a way to quiet his demons. Brian Wilson is a tragic walking example of
what too much bad acid can do to an artist. I personally think Janis Joplin
and Billy Holiday used drugs and alcohol to get give themselves a cloak of
safety that allowed them to sing their naked, heartwrenching blues. They
weren't brave enough to face that stuff without that cloak of safety.
Sometimes artists can get beyond that need--Stevie Ray, for example. Others
are also burdened with madness that gives them extraordinary creative gifts
even as it cripples them. I'm thinking of the bipolarity/manic depression
of Charlie Parker, Thelonius Monk, Robert Schumann.

Another point. Didn't Moritz bring up the difficulties of simply surviving
as an artist? I don't delude myself that I'll ever make enough money from
writing poetry to be able to live by poetry alone. Still, I am constantly
prodded by a need to write poems. I'm off, skewed when I don't do it. The
same is true of my husband, a novelist, who's enjoyed some modest success
with his books but not enough to be able to survive by his fiction. Most
artists need day jobs  and day jobs mean that energy that should be going
to their art is subverted. Another conflict resulting from creative gifts.

What does all this mean? Jesus, I've no profound conclusions to offer. It's
obvious to say that artists have their own sets of demons and small wonder
they reach for any means of escaping those demons. It's also understandable
that a blocked artist would reach for any aid they can grasp to access that
world of creation. Some are able to handle it, to back off, to contain
their hunger for transcendence without drugs or alcohol.  Others cannot.
And their art suffers, they suffer, those who love them suffer, and even
their audiences suffer from their inability to control themselves.

One last point. Moritz: A root known as kava kava was widely used in
Polynesian cultures, ritually and socially, to achieve vision and
connectedness. In the US it is now widely used as an over-the-counter
antidepressant and sedative. You can probably get it in Europe.

What a way to start the day.
Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Benzedrine tune--Dizzy? was travel and drugs
Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:23:21 -0500


>So can we start a thread about direct references to drugs in music? Wasn't
>Brian Wilson tripping when he wrote (composed? cobbled together?) Good
>Vibrations? Cocaine turning reggae into ragga? Acid house, Ecstacy and
>raving? Speed, mods and Northern Soul? The psychedelic movement? Be-bop
>skag and tea?

Yeah! And does anyone know the song, "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs.
O'Leary's Ovaltine"? I recall it as a Dizzy tune, but I'm probably wrong
here--just like I can't remember the Mrs.'s name right. Anyone? And is this
bop vocal number available on any CDs/records? Thanks for info, Mimi






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) drugs n stuff
Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:11:51 -0500


At 02:42 PM 3/28/00 +0100, Reader Geoff wrote:
>
>Most of the songs we celebrate here (in the purer Exotica sense) are crafted
>songs written by professional songwriters,  who didn't write to exorcise
>what made them sad,  but to make money and capitalise on a talent that they
>had for tunes or the crafty rhyme.

What's your evidence for an assumption like that?  You've seen pictures of
them and they don't look like drug-taking hippies?  Or the tunes themselves
are neat and precise and clever without any long passages about nirvana or
Alice in Wonderland allusions?
I've done no research myself into the personal habits of the "professional
songwriters" of the exotica/lounge era but I'd be surprised to find out
they were a bunch of sober, well-adjusted, demon-less craftsmen.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles
Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:23:51 -0500


At 10:08 AM 3/28/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>
><< And an great soundtrack record which I first saw at Will Straw's.  "The
> Wild Eye".  I never even heard it but wanted it anyway.  Now that I've
> heard it, wow! >>
>
>I didn't know about this Italian OST, but the era (late 60s) and your "wow"
>is enough to put it on my list.  Composed by Gianni Marchetti on the RCA
>label.  Marty Manning is in there too according to my guide.

Wait a second.  Don't go by my "wow" just yet.
I liked it because it had a nice lush romantic cooing Mancini-esque sound
but ALSO has a few what-you-might-call "bonuses".  A sorta crime jazz cut
or two.  A sorta biker film cut.  An exotic little electric sitarish cut
that's only a minute long but will go great on a tape someday.
What I like about it is that it really sounds like a soundtrack.  It almost
reminds me of collage of typical soundtrack sounds.
But if you don't like the overall lush wordless female vocal "Umbrellas of
Cherbourg" kind of sound, you might not go "wow" like I did.
It's not wall-to-wall "Groovy Delivery Boy" or lesbian vampires.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Benzedrine tune--Dizzy?
Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:38:00 -0500


>Yeah! And does anyone know the song, "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs.
>O'Leary's Ovaltine"? I recall it as a Dizzy tune, but I'm probably wrong
>here--just like I can't remember the Mrs.'s name right. Anyone? And is this
>bop vocal number available on any CDs/records? Thanks for info, Mimi

Harry "The Hipster" Gibson - "Who Put The Benzedrine In Mrs. Murphy's
Ovaltine"

Serves as the title track on a comp CD from Delmark.


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) Benzedrine tune--Harry Gibson
Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:38:36 -0500



Mimi Mayer <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Yeah! And does anyone know the song, "Who Put the Benzedrine in Mrs.
O'Leary's Ovaltine"?

Harry "The Hipster" Gibson is your man.
Check this page for info:
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B39032

-Lou



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) drugs n stuff
Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:57:07 -0500


Nat Kone <[e-mail]> wrote:
> At 02:42 PM 3/28/00 +0100, Reader Geoff wrote:
>
>Most of the songs we celebrate here (in the purer Exotica sense) are crafted
>songs written by professional songwriters,  who didn't write to exorcise
>what made them sad,  but to make money and capitalise on a talent that they
>had for tunes or the crafty rhyme.

What's your evidence for an assumption like that?  You've seen pictures of
them and they don't look like drug-taking hippies?  Or the tunes themselves
are neat and precise and clever without any long passages about nirvana or
Alice in Wonderland allusions?
I've done no research myself into the personal habits of the "professional
songwriters" of the exotica/lounge era but I'd be surprised to find out
they were a bunch of sober, well-adjusted, demon-less craftsmen.

Nat
=======
There's lots of good first person info on the golden age of left coast
session life at uber-bassist Carol Kaye's site:
http://www.carolkaye.com/

Be sure to check the CK message board. In one place Kaye writes:

She describes studio work, the physicalness of it, it is very
exhausting work (hence our 10-12 cups of coffee every day for not
only the physicalness but the boring times too out in LA with the
multi-varied styles we recorded and created every day).


From her FAQ:
Q. Did you record from 9 to 5, regular business hours?

A. Whoa....(smiling), I wish it was only 9-5. But you had to run when they called you...and we all
wound up recording from about 9AM in the morning to almost midnight almost every day of the
week mid-60s on. The business had
grown so hot by then. You didn't dare say "no", it was highly competitive. You had to be on call for
anything and everything in the way of styles, the studios, hours, who you worked for etc. and be on
time etc. It was a clean, highly professional on-time no-nonsense business. Only the top musician
professionals were allowed in the studios and stayed in for any length of time.

Q. How did you stay awake and keep the tension off while working so many
record sessions?

A. Believe it or not, we drank tons of coffee, and while the guys smoked a lot (from boredom,
there's no tension once you've done 2-3 dates, just trying to stay awake is the problem), I never
acquired that habit. Also, you never saw any drugs used by session musicians until a a little in the
70s. Drugs and booze were totally frowned on (and always have been in the TV and movie score
sessions) while drugs were sometimes popular with live-players.

---
-Lou



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) religous records
Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:15:54 EST



In a message dated 3/28/0 1:45:34 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I have a Word record called "Carillion" which is
>specially produced to be played from Church spires

Let the good Word multiply:     My favorite Word rekkid is by three NOT very
good looking white grrrls called...are you ready?  The White Sisters! They
all have the typical early 6T's grrrl group haircuts with the "spoolied"
curls at the neck, lopsided innocent country grins and blue funny-collared
dresses to match the background of the LP cover.  Actually, now that I study
the LP cover further, the one in the middle is kinda cute...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ferrante & Teicher NEWSFLASH
Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:17:49 -0500


Love the site!!  I have the Rhapsody album, but who was behind Urania
records?  All I can find is a listing of their releases.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) classic titles
Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:20:46 EST



In a message dated 3/28/0 4:35:07 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Anybody got any other titles as good as that "light my fire" one?

I Can't Get No Satisfaction when I Pump It Up  (sorry)


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Music
Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:23:21 EST



In a message dated 3/28/0 4:50:29 AM,
[e-mail] wrote:

>America seems so set on a moral crusade these days. Hollywood
>leads can't drink, smoke or take drugs, eat fatty foods or tell anyone they
>love them but they can kill anyone who looks at them funny.
>It seems that as America's moral sphincter tightens, common sense and
>'balance' are being lost in a bizarre moral panic.

You're so right! Just ask the two or three dozen British Isle recipients of
Oscars trophies the other night...JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Benzedrine tune--Dizzy?
Date: 28 Mar 2000 14:43:40 -0500



>Harry "The Hipster" Gibson - "Who Put The Benzedrine In Mrs. Murphy's
>Ovaltine"

This title puts an odd spin on another chocolate drink mix: "You can't
drink it slow if it's [Nestle's] Quik"!

Sorry.

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs & music (getting shorter)
Date: 28 Mar 2000 21:12:31 +0100


Mimi Mayer wrote:

> To have that capacity is a gift but a gift that comes with burdens,
> drawbacks, responsibilities. Burdens in that it's hard work to develop a
> talent. Craft is demanding.

Sometimes it's amazing how non-artists even if they are skilled writers take
for granted that art "just happens". I remember this article by Diedrich
Diedrichsen, who was a writer-guru in Germany for the generation X on pop
subjects for a while, in which he tried to describe how hip hop was created
"in the streets" "just by itself". He really thought art comes from a road.
And not from artists.

> One last point. Moritz: A root known as kava kava was widely used in
> Polynesian cultures, ritually and socially, to achieve vision and
> connectedness. In the US it is now widely used as an over-the-counter
> antidepressant and sedative. You can probably get it in Europe.

Thanks for taking this on. I thought nobody would notice my twist of the drug
talk into a regular exotica related subject. Yet I already hear the majority
of listees breathe with relief when this thread is finally over and we can
return to record finds and play-lists at last.

So you think kava kava is available in Europe? Maybe under a different name
:-)
Can you remember where you got this information from? I can't remember
anything about drugs in any Thor Heyerdahl book, and those are almost my only
sources about
the South Sea.

Mo





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Beat Jazz; Pictures From a Gone World"
Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:42:10 -0800 (PST)


This is one beautiful collection of beat music, spoken word and crazed goofballed
lyrics.  Way out there selections of many unknown beat artists at their most
primitive level spewing forth undergroud sounds and styles of a bygone era.  No
Zane or kitch here but straight ahead songs that ooze the beat feel!

This is a fantastic selection of music.  For me its the beat of this genre on one
cd    .

Beat Jazz (label ?? date??) see review at:
http://www.jackdiamond.com.spokenwordcds.htm


Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Beat Jazz; Pictures From a Gone World"
Date: 28 Mar 2000 12:49:09 -0800 (PST)


The link should be
http://www.jackdiamond.com/spokenwordcds.htm

This is one beautiful collection of beat music, spoken word and crazed goofballed
lyrics.  Way out there selections of many unknown beat artists at their most
primitive level spewing forth underground sounds and styles of a bygone era.  No
Zane or kitch here but straight ahead songs that ooze the beat feel!

This is a fantastic selection of music.  For me its the beat of this genre on one
cd    .

Beat Jazz (label ?? date??) see review at:
http://www.jackdiamond.com/spokenwordcds.htm


Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:05:33 -0500


Do you think it's possible to get every record by The Ventures?
Without going crazy or breaking the bank, that is.
On the back of one of my latest acquisitions "Flights of Fantasy" there are
pictures of 15 records, eight of which I don't have and have never seen.
And on other records there are these huge lists that I don't dare to count
but once upon a time I counted thirty on the inside of "Golden Greats".
I only have fourteen.
Of course I didnt set out to have them all but at this point, it seems like
something to go for.
But I'd be happy to just have all the ones they made after they started
covering sixties rock hits.  I don't need all the earlier ones.
Somebody go to ebay and let me know.  Maybe this will be the ebayginning
for me.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:19:00 -0500


>Do you think it's possible to get every record by The Ventures?
>Without going crazy or breaking the bank, that is.

I believe (working from imprecise memory -- clarification welcomed) that
besides US releases, they've also been cranking out Japanese-market-only
albums for decades. So if you really want to get into it, the pool could be
deathly deep!


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Music
Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:32:06 -0500


HERE HERE, Charles Moseley for PRESIDENT!

move here and help us straighten this mess out!  ;)

there is a pretty sad and pathetic mass consciousness around here.

bump out.

lets talk about music!



>I know we've probably had enough on the subject but this comment is
>interesting. America seems so set on a moral crusade these days. Hollywood
>leads can't drink, smoke or take drugs, eat fatty foods or tell anyone they
>love them but they can kill anyone who looks at them funny.
>It seems that as America's moral sphincter tightens, common sense and
>'balance' are being lost in a bizarre moral panic. Using cannabis, for
>example and drinking have been going on for well over 4,000 years and
>haven't killed many people but of course, both have been made illegal by
>the American government within the last 100 years, while gun laws seem open
>and overly-relaxed, prison populations are huge and people are being locked
>up for longer, for lesser crimes.

********************************
Bump
Universal DJ
Defective Records
[e-mail]
http://www.defectiverecords.com
"Music, Non-Stop" -- Ralf + Florian




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and music
Date: 28 Mar 2000 16:11:33 -0500


i would have to say music is my "drug" of choice.
i am a music addict. been so since age 4.
i say if it works for you, and you are happy and not hurting others.
do what you please.

i'd bet most of the music i listen to was made by musicians who induldged
in some sort of drug intake. that being the case,
i have no problem with the recreational use of mind altering materials.
it is an ancient rite. some people just do not know or care to know how to
handle them mentally physically or spiritually.

drugs are not a problem.
its the people who use them for the wrong reasons with the problem.


 i MUST ESCAPE from this list.
it is beginning to sound like the making of Christian Conversion Plot.
and i am not even stoned.

Marcy IS Satan.

bump






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Music
Date: 28 Mar 2000 13:46:39 -0800 (PST)


These days? Where you been? We have always known how
others should best live their lives (and this is what
made that whole human-humidor incident so
heartbreaking a violation of our fundamental
steadfastness). Really.

Y'all shoulda hanged those home-spun Puritan types
when you had the chance (as a jack-RC, I don't fear
what might have been had you). Reprieved a few more
thieves in their stead.





> [e-mail]
> wrote:
>
> >America seems so set on a moral crusade these days.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles/ Toronto record show
Date: 28 Mar 2000 23:09:04 GMT


Re Nat's recent scores:

I was at the same record show you were at. I saw "The Wild Eye" but passed
it up because it looked a bit too "symphonic", or at least it looked a bit
too much like the early-60's sound was happening. Looks like it was better
than I thought -- I'll grab it next time I see it. I appreciate being kept
informed.(I saw Les Baxter's "Teen Drums" too but that copy at least was too
scratched for me).

For what it's worth, here's what I got:
- 'Man from U.N.C.L.E.' ost (mono, a bit noisy, but cheap)
- 'Carribean Moonlight' by Les Baxter (I have it but it was so cheap
enough to buy for resale purposes)
- 'Dynomite Guitars' by Billy Strange
- 'Six Days on the Road' by Dave Dudley (great gal-at-the-truck-stop
cover)
- 'Friends' featuring Jonny Whittaker (ost to an old Sid and Marty
Krofft show from the 70's)
- 'Brass Impact' by Warren Kime Orchestra (great now sounds with
wordless chick vocals, cool cover too)
- 'No Way to Treat a Lady' ost (from 1968, has some good tracks)
- 'L'Initiation' ost - (french quasi-porno flick from late 60's, has a
cool track called 'psychedelic party', and some others too)
- 'Mallet Magic' by Harry Breuer Orchestra (late 50's, great cover and
cool vibes music)
- 'Grab Bag' by Audio Directions (70's studio jazz stuff, o.k. in
places, with a good 70's vibe [a bit like MFSB])
- 'Savage 7' ost (biker flick, not great but the instrumental by Iron
Butterfly completely redeeems it, cool cover too).
- 'Faron Aims at the West' by Faron Young
- 'Seven Songs' by 23 Skidoo
- 'Hits of Les Paul and Mary Ford'
- 'James Bond's Greatest Hits' by Frank Pourcel and his Orchestra
- 'Advantage' by Clock DVA
- 'I.D. Company' s/t. (on CD)

I saw the ost to "I Spy" (looked beautiful" but couldn't afford the $30.00
price tag).

a good turnout I thought, but there were a great many dealers who hadn't
clued into the soundtracks/exotica/incredibly strange etc. aspect of
collecting. "Do you have any soundtracks?"/"Soundtracks? oh I've got tons of
them at home but didn't bring em". "Thanks."

record shows: too much Beatles and prog.

here's to others having better luck than I
jbrouwer





.

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Records beginning and ending with Sex
Date: 28 Mar 2000 22:56:42 -0800


Just back from Polson, Montana, I come bearing newly found LPs.

Here's one you don't find every day:  The Sounds of Love...A to Zzzz
Sensuously Sinthesized.  Five of six cuts demonstrate the vocalizations of
a woman, er, having sex, accompanied by a synthesizer performance.  Funny
that you never hear anyone else.  The sixth cut seems to miss the
vocalizations and sounds mostly like white noise to me.  Fred Miller is
listed as the composer.  From 1972 on Yorkshire Records 27021 by Copley
Record Productions.

Percussion Fiesta by The Randy Heller Percussionists  P.R.I. Records 3024.
Nothing extraordinary here, but solid Latin stuff

Hollywood Sound Stage Percussion and Sound  Decca DL74184.  How could you
go wrong with Bob Rosengarden and Phil Krause!

Ballin' The Jack  Allen Rich and his Orchestra.  This will probably
disappoint me, but I had to try it out as it is from the Richmond
Percussive Stereo Series.  Most probably its dixieland jazz recorded by an
engineer panning right and left at strategic points in the music.  Richmond
RPS 39007

Please Play It Again featuring John McCarvel at the Hammond organ and
piano.  M.A.R.S. V-2719.  Bruce's photo on the cover was shot by Titter
Studios of Great Falls, Montana!  He does play Third Man Theme and Tico
Tico.  Sold!

Music For The Sensational Sixties  Don Elliot and his Orchestra   Design
Compatible Fidelity  1028.  How could I refuse an album with  Don (I
presume) in tails holding a French Horn in one hand and vibes mallets in
the other riding a Vespa motor scooter through Outer Space. Actually pretty
cool jazz.
I see this album on ebay right now, by the way.

The Monterey Brass  A Taste of Honey Million Seller Trumpet Hits  Diplomat
D 2370. Probably the 47th repackaging of the same session with the 47th
renaming of the musicians.

Imported Carr  American Gas!  Carole Carr  Warner Brothers 1316  A British
vocalist recorded in Hollywood, so it must be good, right?

The Many Moods of Ann    Ann Gilbert with the Elliot Lawrence Orchestra
Groove LG-1004.  This 1956 album was put out by one RCA's subsidiary
labels. More "jazz pop."

Jonathan and Darlene Edwards in Paris  Columbia  CL 1513.  Can't wait to
hear more bad performances with arrangements for orchestra by Jonathan (the
BAD side of Paul Weston) himself.

Spanish Eyes    Myron Floren  Ranwood  R8081. "Anna now, from our musical
family, Myron plays Tico Tico with Buddy Merrill playing guitar, anna one,
anna two."  Wunnerful, wunnerful.

Concert Miniatures  Neal Hefti  Vik  LX 1092  1957.  Neal Hefti can often
put out some cool stuff.  He does a version of Song of India here.

Music for the Weaker Sex  Henri Rene and His Orchestra  RCA LPM 1583.
Benny Carter plays sex, er, sax.  1958.  After all the albums I have seen
with tunes titled after women's names, here is an about face.  The song
titles here are: Perry, Frankie, Harry, Tab, Eddie, Mario, Pat, Dino, Nat,
Johnny, Bing and Elvis.  Funny how Rene's tunes named for pop singers never
got recorded elsewhere.


Byron



Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Chipmunks
Date: 28 Mar 2000 23:04:14 -0800


>Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 23:02:14 -0500
>From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) Flexidisk Tangent
>
>>"Hey Kids! Here is your personal greeting from your new Soaky friends,
>>Alvin, Simon and Theodore."
>
>Anyone know a good story about who it was who really sang those?

The Chipmunks were created by Ross Bagdasarian (aka David Seville).
He was an actor/singer who had a lot of success with novelty records
on the Liberty label. You can see him as the composer in
Hitchcock's Rear Window. I worked for his son, Ross Jr. on the
Chipmunk revival series in the late 80s. It isn't easy to get the
timing and expression right at the slow speeds that you have to
record the dialogue at. (I actually voiced all three Chipmunks in
one episode.)

See ya
Steve


      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Records beginning and ending with Sex
Date: 29 Mar 2000 02:04:05 -0500



>Imported Carr  American Gas!  Carole Carr  Warner Brothers 1316  A British
>vocalist recorded in Hollywood, so it must be good, right?

Clever title!  Carr was know as an actress, too.  I am a fan of the Goon
Show and she is in a movie with all four Goons called, "Down Among the Z
Men".  She introduces herself by saying, "Hi!  I'm Carole Carr, the MI5 girl."

Great finds!

Brian Phillips

P.S. Were this recorded with the New York Philharmonic doing Mason
Williams' songs, would this be "Imported Carr, Classical Gas"?
P.P.S. Sorry.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks
Date: 29 Mar 2000 21:38:35 +1000


on 29/3/00 5:04 PM, Stephen W. Worth at [e-mail] wrote:

 Anyone know a good story about who it was who really sang those?
>
> The Chipmunks were created by Ross Bagdasarian (aka David Seville).
> He was an actor/singer who had a lot of success with novelty records
> on the Liberty label. You can see him as the composer in
> Hitchcock's Rear Window. I worked for his son, Ross Jr. on the
> Chipmunk revival series in the late 80s. It isn't easy to get the
> timing and expression right at the slow speeds that you have to
> record the dialogue at. (I actually voiced all three Chipmunks in
> one episode.)

Who was responsible then for the album "Chipmunk Punk" which contains no
less than three covers of songs by The Knack?

Philip
--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks
Date: 29 Mar 2000 07:16:03 EST


In a message dated 3/29/00 2:00:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< The Chipmunks were created by Ross Bagdasarian (aka David Seville).
 He was an actor/singer who had a lot of success with novelty records
 on the Liberty label. You can see him as the composer in
 Hitchcock's Rear Window. I worked for his son, Ross Jr. on the
 Chipmunk revival series in the late 80s. It isn't easy to get the
 timing and expression right at the slow speeds that you have to
 record the dialogue at. (I actually voiced all three Chipmunks in
 one episode.)

 See ya
 Steve >>

Well!  I am impressed with this tidbit.

My first record was the Chipmunks Christmas album and was played on my first
record player:  A GE table top "portable" that we picked up at the department
store and then rode 225 miles to my grandmother's before I could play with
it!  Now try that at age 5!

My mother lent this record player to a neighbor lady about 4 years ago so she
could play some records for her grandchildren.  About a year later my mom
remembered and asked for the record player back and the lady said, "I never
borrowed any record player!"

I learned about this about a year ago and was totally pissed.  See, I was one
of those fastidious children that always took real good care of things and
that player was in excellent condition.

I actually found out about the missing player on Christmas day when I was
over at my Mom's and I went looking for the player to play the Chipmunk album
(which I still have in good condition too) and Mom sheepishly admitted that
she had lent/lost my player.

Thank God I keep the album at my house now or she may have lent it too!

Stories from the childhood,

TB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks / David Seville / Ross B.
Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:37:33 EST


Steve W. wrote >>I worked for his son, Ross Jr. on the Chipmunk revival
series in the late 80s. <<

Steven,
WOw.  I am a huge fan of Ross Bagdasarian, especially his non-Chipmunk 45s,
LPs, B-sides etc.  So far I have been unable to gind any biographical
information on him at all.  I know he wrote some hit tunes for pop artists
(Come-On-A-My House for R. Clooney being one example) and produced some girl
singers in the 50s.  But, hell, I don't even know when or how he passed away.

Any info you have on Ross would be greatly appreciated by me, and I know of
at least a couple of other people on the list who enjoy his sometimes
great/sometimes disappointing records.

Please, any info...

Best wishes,
Larry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) classic titles/ Toronto record show
Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:55:31 -0500


<<I saw the ost to "I Spy" (looked beautiful" but couldn't afford the =
$30.00=20
price tag).>>

Wow.  That goes for that much???

Got mine (good shape) for a quarter............

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:06:33 +0200


m.ace wrote:

> >Do you think it's possible to get every record by The Ventures?
> >Without going crazy or breaking the bank, that is.
>
> I believe (working from imprecise memory -- clarification welcomed) that
> besides US releases, they've also been cranking out Japanese-market-only
> albums for decades. So if you really want to get into it, the pool could be
> deathly deep!

Most of my first Ventures' LPs bought in the mid 80s are Japanese pressings.
They were available in regular record shops here in Germany at that time.

Nat wrote:

>But I'd be happy to just have all the ones they made after they started
>covering sixties rock hits. I don't need all the earlier ones.

Which ARE the early ones, I mean: what was on them? Own compositions or covers
of 50s rock hits? Funny that I don't know about this. The Ventures are one of
my all-time favorite bands. I thought covering rock hits was all they ever
did.


Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New arrivals
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:07:36 +0000


Just got Sweden - Heaven and Hell LP through the post. A nice mint original
60s copy on Ariel records. Very very cool, this one, with 4 or so excellent
head-nodding tracks with lots of spacey floating Hammond sounds. Those of
you with the reissue have a lot more tracks but I have been looking for the
original for a while.

Berry Lipman - The Most Beautiful Girls in the World - this is a dreadful,
mushy, crap german easy listening record with the instrumental version of
The Girls of Paramarimbo as the only worthwhile track. Still not the vocal
version. Wonder where that one comes from?

Volker Kriegel - Spectrum. A Jazz LP with a very cool sitar track Zoom,
similar to Dave Pike's Mathar but with more noodling. Quality German jazz.

That's about it for a while. I haven't been buying much
easy/exotica/soundtracks. In fact what have I been spending my money on?
Who knows?



Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama
Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:33:36 +0000


> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:05:57 -0800
> From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: RE: (exotica) Vampyros Lesbos/pervert music
>
> On a slightly similar vein, what do you folks think of those "Sex-o-Rama"
> CDs? I had the impression that they weren't the original tracks, but that
> they were made by some cover band -- still, they seem kind of promising. Any
> opinions, before I plunk down my cash for something bad (and slightly
> embarrassing to have lying around the stereo, to boot)? =)

The Sex-O-Rama comp. (I only bought vol. 1) has been very
disappointing to me. With tracks like "Debbie Does Dallas", "I Like
To Watch", "Seka's Fantasies", "Deep Throat", "Behind The Green
Door", "Taboo", "Eruption", "The Opening Of Misty Beethoven" I was
really expecting some chili peppered music. Not to mention the fact
that I directly bought it on a XXX website.
The idea and the notes are OK, but the music is fake. Not the
original soundtracks, just studio sessionmen re-recording it in a
mellow funk mode.
Jenna Jameson on cover and inlay.
Still wouldn't have bought it only for this, you can see her for free
on zillions sites.
Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks?
I got "The Devil In Miss Jones", but found it no groovey. The music,
I mean.
Ciao
Gionni


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:50:59 +0000


Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks?


I have Deep Throat, which is badly recorded but quite funky,
Eric Soya's 17, which is just lame - orchestral and boring
Schulmadchen Report - The Crippled Dick reissue which I think is superb -
very funky and hyper. Anybody know anymore original Gert Wilden stuff?
I hear Deep Throat part II is funky and worth getting
Emmanuel Nera (Black Emmanuel - a terrible film with absolutely no sex in
it) has a valuable and collectable soundtrack which I have a reissue copy
of and is lost on me. As far as I can remember, its just average, even
boring, funky nonsense
Sweden Heaven and Hell - already mentioned.
Vampiros Lesbos (porn? I'm not sure) - Very cool, fuzz guitar and hammond
over good, very groovy cool backing. Definately worth having. Does anybody
own an original copy of this rather than the reissue?

Any more?



Charlie


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama
Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:54:26 -0500


At 11:33 AM -0500 3/29/00, Giovanni Berti wrote:

>The Sex-O-Rama comp. (I only bought vol. 1) has been very
>disappointing to me.
>Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks?
>I got "The Devil In Miss Jones", but found it no groovey.

I was also disappointed with Sex-O-Rama. Too much lame funk. And yeah, "The
Devil In Miss Jones" is very straight. "Deep Throat" is mostly dialogue,
and the music is nothing special. Of course, that's not what these movies
were about, was it.....

The best stuff out there is the soft core porno tracks, e.g. Emanuelle
series, etc. The big one to keep an eye out for is "The Minx", on the
Flying Dutchman label. Extremely hard to find, and usually quite expensive
when you do, but a groovy collection of funky jazz tracks.

br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) New arrivals
Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:54:45 EST


<<  Those of
 you with the reissue (Sweden Heaven and Hell) have a lot more tracks but I
have been looking for the
 original for a while. >>

Yes, they get more tracks - too many maybe - but they miss out on the bizarro
pink and yellow cover art with the chick with her tongue hangin' out, another
smokin' somethin' outta a pipe, a dude shootin' up and a really wild looking
scene with a bunch of babes in body suits bouncing up and down on huge rubber
balls!

I'd really like to see this film, but can't find it.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama
Date: 29 Mar 2000 07:02:29 -0800 (PST)


And, I will mention again The Female Animal, starring
(and with vocals by) Arlene Tiger. Music by the Clay
Pitts Orchestra. The songs are basically breathy samba
and "Now Sound" pieces with titles such as Katch that
Kat, Rape Theme and Female Animal (with Arlene's
little tiger growls, promises of reaching "the peak of
ecstasy", etc). Titillating stills on the backside of
the cover. If this is on CD, and you go in for this
sort of ting, grab it. Blows Francis Lai's STs away.

BW

--- "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]> wrote:

> The best stuff out there is the soft core porno
> tracks, e.g. Emanuelle
> series, etc.

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Drugs, Alcohol & Music (long)
Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:02:38 -0600


Nat Kone wrote:

<<Right.  But don't you understand?  They should just
listen to BJ's sage advice and stop drinking or taking
drugs. ...they should just fly a little lower. ...any
artist who hides behind that is just weak. ...All they
have to do is sit down at the piano and let their
natural talent flow and then they'll have all kinds
of good ideas and then they can just execute those
ideas and live a long happy life and we'll all be the
richer for it.>>

Okay, here's my first and only follow-up to my admittedly
long-winded off-topic original post.  Nat, I think the
world would be a much better place if people were stronger,
in general terms, and able to see, understand, accept,
and act on the "sage wisdom" of those who know what's
better for them than they know themselves.  Unfortunately,
thousands of years and untold human-hours invested by
doctors, therapists, friends, family, and intercessors
indicates otherwise.  Humans seem remarkably incapable
of "shoulding" someone into better behavior, unless that
person is already clear enough in their own minds to
recognize they are weak and need help. Good/bad, right/
wrong, or indifferent, use/abuse is a fact of history,
of the present, and I suspect, the future.  And folks
will deal with it however they deal with it.  Artists
may or may not use or abuse alcohol or drugs in the
future, but I do think that others telling them they
should or shouldn't won't avail much; it's not really
their choice.  That said, my hope is that I as a listener
concern myself with the end result and judge the art,
not the artist. And good golly, Miss Molly, is there
ever a lot of great music talked about and listened to
by the good folks on this list.  Let the good tunes roll!
I am very sure we will all be the richer for it!
--
Mark D. Head
The Captain
[e-mail]
_______________________________________
TANSTAAFL!




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama
Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:14:35 -0500


Just for the record - Sweden Heaven and Hell is a mondo film - one in =
hundreds of "mock" documentaries purporting to show real life in all its =
pain/weirdness/glory, etc.........

Vampyros Lesbos is a horror film with nudity/sexy scenes......

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama
Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:35:18 +0100


Giovanni Berti wrote:
>
> Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks?

Tongue? (don't know if that's porn, but it sounds like it could be)
Music is okay, has some nice moments, but isn't essential IMO.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Kava-Drugs & music (getting shorter)
Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:54:57 -0500


Mo, go here:
http://www.betterlivingusa.com/index.htm

and here:
http://www.kavaroot.com/aboutkava_frames.htm

and here:
http://www.healthcentral.com/PeoplesPharmacy/PharmFullText.cfm?ID=3D20663&st=
or
ytype=3DHerbalMon?src=3Dls

and here: (info about Kava's use as a healing herbal in Germany--for VD)
http://www.herbphoto.com/education/monograph/kava.html

and here:
http://www.planetherbs.com/articles/kava.html

Happy sailing. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks
Date: 29 Mar 2000 07:39:56 -0800


>See, I was
>one
>of those fastidious children that always took real good care of things and
>that player was in excellent condition.

I was the same way with my toys.  Other kids always looked at me in
amazement because I actually retained (and never lost) all tiny
accessories (as well as perfect condition outfits) to early Barbie and
Ken dolls, when they were walking around with nude dolls and no
accessories.

Regarding Chipmunks, I'm amazed that some on the list didn't know that
Ross B. voiced all three characters.  I remember seeing that fact stated
in the early Chipmunk tv cartoon credits.  The original recordings with
Ross from the late 1950s/early 1960s were used at my house for another
purpose--my father was a part-time/hobbyist clown and puppeteer, made his
own chipmunk puppets (which were quite nice as I recall), and used the
records for background music for his shows.  I also had the plastic Soaky
bubble bath Chipmunk figurines (that someone else mentioned in another
post) in my own childhood, and also currently have the original black and
white Soaky tv ad on video that shows the Chipmunk characters as the ones
"currently available".  Let's face it, if your childhood included those
years, the Chipmunks *were* today's equivalent to "Pokemon"!!

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) stylophones
Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:47:23 -0600



Okay, only tangentially related to "exotica", but
since many of you are weird instrument buffs, I'm
wondering what exactly is a stylophone and what does
it sound like?  I've seen pictures of them, and I
know that David Bowie and a few other people have
used them, but that's about it.

Thanks for any info you can share.

--

Kerry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) stylophones
Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:53:48 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:
> Okay, only tangentially related to "exotica", but
since many of you are weird instrument buffs, I'm
wondering what exactly is a stylophone and what does
it sound like?
------
Kerry:
Best place to start is this page:
http://www.stylophone.freeserve.co.uk/index.html

The downloadable virtual stylophone is at:
http://www.stylophone.freeserve.co.uk/download.html

-Lou
[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 11:02:08 -0500


Just happened across an article on this -  a huge database of free =
downloadable songs that has the musicians crying "Foul!"

www.napster.com=20

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) stylophones
Date: 29 Mar 2000 11:19:58 -0500


Naturally, Linkmaster Lou delivered the scoop. Here's a few more:

http://www.sparque.co.uk/

http://members.aol.com/normleete/keyspage/dubreq.htm

http://www.callnetuk.com/home/datatrace/stylohome.html



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:04:46 +0000


I've used Napster. It is going to scare retailers.
Think of an MP3 file that you want to hear. Type it in: ie. Kim Lucas - All
I Really Want.

Wait

And Napster will pull it onto your machine from the web. It searches
servers.

Think of going to HMV for a CD single being replaced by a few key presses
and no exchange of funds.

Simple, effective and quality!


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:26:46 -0800


Nathan wrote:

> Just happened across an article on this -  a huge database of free
downloadable songs that has the musicians crying "Foul!"

> www.napster.com

Napster is certainly a cool idea - the music industry seems to be going
after mp3.com and napster. The genie is certainly out of the bottle. The
major problem with napster is speed (takes friggin forever, even with DSL at
both the client and server sites - ADSL sux), and the music selection is
_very_ pedestrian.

Try searching for Yma Sumac - I've never seen any of her albums/tracks
shared (even with 3000+ connected users, and 1000+GB of shared music.
However, if you are looking for the standard stuff that 16 year olds listen
to, this is a gold mine).

Erik
www.swankradio.com

# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 08:37:48 -0800


>Just happened across an article on this -  a huge database of free
>downloadable songs that has the musicians crying "Foul!"
>
>www.napster.com

FYI, there is a HUGE discussion/debate brewing on another music mailing
list about this whole Napster issue.  The bottom line is, in addition to
copyright problems that are not being addressed, Napster as it now stands
has a big security issue for computer users as well.  It seems as though
this software suffers from being rushed to market without due thought.
Many colleges and universities are banning it from being used altogether
because of the sheer bandwidth problems it creates...

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Records beginning and ending with Sex
Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:08:51 -0500 (EST)



I am so jealous! Saw the Don Elliot Lp in a store a while back, going for
large dollars. The cover is just great on that one. Congrats!


++++++++++++++++++++

Lenkei Design
   Graphic Design

www.lenkeidesign.com

++++++++++++++++++++

On 28 Mar 2000 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Just back from Polson, Montana, I come bearing newly found LPs.
>
> Here's one you don't find every day:  The Sounds of Love...A to Zzzz
> Sensuously Sinthesized.  Five of six cuts demonstrate the vocalizations of
> a woman, er, having sex, accompanied by a synthesizer performance.  Funny
> that you never hear anyone else.  The sixth cut seems to miss the
> vocalizations and sounds mostly like white noise to me.  Fred Miller is
> listed as the composer.  From 1972 on Yorkshire Records 27021 by Copley
> Record Productions.
>
>
> Music For The Sensational Sixties  Don Elliot and his Orchestra   Design
> Compatible Fidelity  1028.  How could I refuse an album with  Don (I
> presume) in tails holding a French Horn in one hand and vibes mallets in
> the other riding a Vespa motor scooter through Outer Space. Actually pretty
> cool jazz.
> I see this album on ebay right now, by the way.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Religious records, "Christmas with Marcy, Culturcide
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:30:15 +0200


    Johan wrote:

>> "Christmas with Marcy, sing with Marcy" is by far the most weird xmas lp i
>> got...

    Brian Karasick replied:

>You mean to say it's weirder than Culturcide's "Depressed Christmas"...

    hm, no, not necessarely, they're both of a different kind of
"weirdness". Marcy is innocent, Culturcide's approach is rather
aggressive... don't know if this makes sense... can't concentrate my
thoughts very well right now... and not due to drugs or alcohol ;-)

        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 09:16:42 -0800


B.J. Major wrote in part:

> FYI, there is a HUGE discussion/debate brewing on another music mailing
> list about this whole Napster issue.  The bottom line is, in addition to
> copyright problems that are not being addressed, Napster as it now stands
> has a big security issue for computer users as well.  It seems as though
> this software suffers from being rushed to market without due thought.
> Many colleges and universities are banning it from being used altogether
> because of the sheer bandwidth problems it creates...

Snicker. I find this completely surprising since it this bullet-proof code
was written by a 19 year old in his dorm room. I can't imagine how he could
have possibly overlooked and security issues...

BTW - what _exactly_ are these security issues? As I understand it, you are
opening a port on your box to anonymous ftp - this certainly is an issue.

On another related note - are folks that have DSL running personal firewall
software (e.g., NetworkIce's BlackIce Defender)? I certainly hope that you
are (this is of course an issue with DSL as you have a static IP address). I
have been shocked at the number time my machine at home thats on DSL is
"probed" by others looking for security holes, trojan horses, etc. My
empirical observation is that I get probed once ever 12 hours or so of
connect time. The frequence is steadily increasing as well.

Erik
www.swankradio.com




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Durward Kirby, Ian Dury, Gene Eugene, Jack Haley
Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:36:35 -0500


A good Durward Kirby obit at:
http://nypress.com/content.cfm?content_id=1606&now=03/29/2000&content_section=1
-------
Ian Dury feature/obit at:
http://villagevoice.com/issues/0013/tannenbaum.shtml
and
http://elvispelvis.com/iandury.htm
----
 Fans nationwide are shocked by the death of 38-year-old Geneá
 Eugene, the man who set a new tone for Christian music.á
http://elvispelvis.com/geneeugene.htm
------
Tuesday, March 28, 2000
Jack Haley; Icon of Surfing Loses Cancer Battle
By SANDY YANG, L.A. Times Staff Writer
Friends called him Mr. Excitement. Jack Haley, Seal Beach surfing
icon and restaurateur, pulled off everything with grandeur and style.
So it wasn't surprising that before Haley died Sunday after a
battle with cancer, the 65-year-old had planned his own beach party
memorial bash, with mariachi music and Hawaiian shirts.
"He demanded there not be a tear at the party," his son, Tim, said
Monday. "He wanted it to celebrate his life."
The date, time and place for the party have yet to be decided.
Meanwhile, scores of Haley's friends and admirers have been dropping by
his restaurant, Captain Jack's, to pay their respects, Tim Haley said.
Haley, who two years ago was inducted into the Surfing Hall of Fame
and Walk of Fame in Huntington Beach, was never far from the surf that
made him a local legend.
He was just a young man when he took top honors in the first
surfing championship held near the Huntington Beach pier. The year was
1959, and Haley was credited with laying the foundation that would later
give the seaside community its nickname: Surf City.
In 1961, he opened one of the area's first surf shops, Jack Haley's
Surfboards. Four years later, he opened Captain Jack's restaurant on
Pacific Coast Highway.
He loved Seal Beach, and always seemed to be either starting or
finishing a community project, his friends said. In 1997, for example,
Haley headed a campaign to raise private funds to build a police
substation atop the lifeguard headquarters. The building is named for
him.
Haley, who stood 6 feet 6, "was large in presence as he was in
stature," said Rich Harbour, a surfboard manufacturer who knew Haley for
about 40 years. "When he walked into a room, you felt it right away.
People looked at him with respect. . . . Whatever he did, it was bigger
than life. If he threw a party, it would be one of the most amazing
parties in years and everyone would talk about it."
Of all his accomplishments, Haley was probably best known as a
surfing pioneer. In those early days, he made boards and rode the waves
when it was rare to find someone who did either.
Young aspiring surfers have long looked up to Haley as a mentor.
Many, like Harbour, bought their first surfboards from him.
A bit of a maverick, Haley always preferred surfing on the long
boards crafted in the 1960s to the shorter boards that became popular
later, friends said.
"He caught more waves than anyone," said Bruce Jones, a surfboard
manufacturer. "He was just being himself, and he stood out of the
crowd."
Haley almost always wore bright Hawaiian shirts--untucked--with
shorts and flip-flop sandals.
He is survived by his mother, Virginia; his wife, Jeanette; and
children, Tim, Sondra and Jack Jr., who played professional basketball,
including two seasons with the Los Angeles Lakers. They plan to sprinkle
his ashes into the ocean off Maui and Cabo San Lucas, where he owned
homes.
"His ashes will be poured into the sea, so he will continue
surfing," said Tim Haley.
á



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:05:20 -0500


Ehh, MP3s. An MP3 won't play on this nifty GE table top portable record
player I bought from some old lady down south. It's in beautiful condition
-- someone must have taken really good care of it.

</joke>

m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks
Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:13:03 EST


In a message dated 03/29/00 10:40:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Let's face it, if your childhood included those
 years, the Chipmunks *were* today's equivalent to "Pokemon"!! >>

thank god there were only three chipmunks tho!


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:45:58 -0800


>opening a port on your box to anonymous ftp - this certainly is an issue.

Anytime you have your computer connected to the internet 24/7 and are
running a program like Napster (or a host of others which, in essence
makes your hard drive(s) "available" to others), there are security risks
involved.  Risks which I take no chances of running even though I use
nothing even remotely close to Napster, et al.  In other words, if you
are one of the thousands of databases being probed for music information,
what's to stop someone else from writing a program that would work with
Napster (or another application), to do a search for data sensitive,
personal files on your computer?  Anything from your bank account
balance, income tax data files you happen to be working on, etc.

What I've been doing for a while now just to be safe is to keep ALL data
sensitive files like the above off my main hard drives, period.  They're
never stored there.  Those types of files I store on zip discs and back
up weekly on CD-RWs.  I then use the files off those media when they're
needed.  Personal correspondence is handled the same way.  And when I'm
using these files, my internet connection is not active.  In addition to
keeping potential prying eyes off my data, it's also a wise thing to do
if you use a portable laptop computer (as I do); in the event it gets
stolen, I at least wouldn't lose any data (including email, which is also
backed up weekly) because the zips and CD-RWs are always with me in a
small case *separate* from the laptop, plus I keep an 2nd set of
identical data stored at home.  And, if someone happens to burgle my
home, all the zip discs are password protected at the root level which is
impossible to bypass!

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:14:54 EST



In a message dated 3/29/0 9:09:00 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The Ventures are one of
>my all-time favorite bands. I thought covering rock hits was all they ever
>did.

They do a lot of it to be sure...But each album has three or four original
gems that are worth the $5-$10 usually asked for a mint Ventures LP with a
mint-ish cover.. JB/owner of about 25 Ventures LP's


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "The Back Ward" March 29, 2000
Date: 29 Mar 2000 19:16:00 GMT




"The Back Ward" can be heard Wednesday mornings at 10 on CFRU 93.3fm
in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Also available in RealAudio
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~cfru-fm/

Jim Clark Was Driving Recklessly - Les Maledictus Sound, from "Maledictus
Sound"

Esquatando os Tambourinos - Sergio Nilo, from "Easy Tempo 3"

Coaty's Pop - Coaty de Olivera, from "Coaty's Pop"

E.V.A. - Jean Jacques Perrey, from "Moog Indigo"

Space Bugaloos - Mike Nock

Downtown; Lord Krishna; Power Drive; Bei Tim; Right Hand Lover - Gilles
Zeitschiff, from "Gilles Zeitschiff"

Virtual Hallucinations - from "Education in Psychiatry: Schizophrenia"

Mr. Oil Man - Jarvis st. Revue, from "Mr. Oil Man"

Goodbye Enemy Airship - Do Make Say Think, from "Goodbye Enemy Airship"

all for now...
jb
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) article about secret museum website
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:25:47 -0500


http://www.sonicnet.com/news/story.jhtml?genreNameForDisplay=World%2FInternational&genreDirectoryName=world&id=820263
--
Listen ANY TIME at http://www.megasaver.com/sma/soundlinks.html
Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air"
every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
& WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM
http://wfmu.org/ then go to 'listen to wfmu'


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 11:38:57 -0800


The following is outside the charter of this group - unfortunately, I just
can't help myself on this one...

BJ wrote:

> >opening a port on your box to anonymous ftp - this certainly is an issue.
>
> Anytime you have your computer connected to the internet 24/7 and are
> running a program like Napster (or a host of others which, in essence
> makes your hard drive(s) "available" to others), there are security risks
> involved.

Of course ... sigh ...

My point was that people running DSL - irrespective of whether they are
maintaining a continuous connection to the net - should be running firewall
software. You would be a fool not to. The issue is the static IP address
that accompanies DSL connections.

... chop ...

> What I've been doing for a while now just to be safe is to keep ALL data
> sensitive files like the above off my main hard drives, period.  They're
> never stored there.  Those types of files I store on zip discs and back
> up weekly on CD-RWs.  I then use the files off those media when they're
> needed.  Personal correspondence is handled the same way.

Freaky.

> And when I'm
> using these files, my internet connection is not active.  In addition to
> keeping potential prying eyes off my data, it's also a wise thing to do
> if you use a portable laptop computer (as I do); in the event it gets
> stolen, I at least wouldn't lose any data (including email, which is also
> backed up weekly) because the zips and CD-RWs are always with me in a
> small case *separate* from the laptop, plus I keep an 2nd set of
> identical data stored at home.  And, if someone happens to burgle my
> home, all the zip discs are password protected at the root level which is
> impossible to bypass!

Whoa. This is _way_ too bizarre.

What in the ^%#* is so sensitive as to warrant such anally retentive
behavior? I simply must know!

Snicker.

Erik
www.swankradio.com

BTW - it is possible to crack your password protected zip disks. You can't
bypass it, but you can crack it - I'll start with "wanderley"...




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:42:56 -0500


Mo wrote:
>Which ARE the early ones, I mean: what was on them? Own compositions or covers
>of 50s rock hits? Funny that I don't know about this. The Ventures are one of
>my all-time favorite bands.

Well, just to keep it exotica-related. . . you know the Ventures'
debut album had a version of "Caravan"!

A really nice version, actually.

Let's see. . . _Walk Don't Run_ . . . looks like 3 originals, the
rest covers, ranging from "Sleep Walk" and "Night Train" to "Tara's
Theme," and some more obscure ones I don't know.

OK, another disk has the titles/tracks of their first 9 Dolton LPs:


_Walk Don't Run _ (BLP 2003/BST 8003)
_The Ventures_ (BLP 2004/BST 8004)
_Another Smash_ (BLP 2006/BST 8006)
_The Colorful Ventures_ (BLP 2008/BST 8008)
_Twist with the Ventures_ (BLP 2010/BST 8010)
_The Ventures Twist Party Vol. 2_ (BLP 2014/BST 8014)
_Mashed Potatoes and Gravy_ (BLP 2016/BST 8016)
_Going to the Ventures Dance Party_ (BLP 2017/BST 8017)
_The Ventures Play Telstar - The Lonely Bull_ (BLP 2019/BST 8019)


Now *I* really want to look out for some of these--since it looks
aside from various "dance craze" numbers, their first six LPs have
covers of several songs we would ordinarily consider Exotica
Standards. . .  like,

Hawaiian War Chant
Blue Tango
Perfida
Moon of Manakoora
Beyond the Reef
Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White
Yellow Bird
Movin' & Groovin'
Bumble Bee Twist  [I have GOT to hear this one!]
Besame Mucho
Dark Eyes Twist


Anyone out there have these? Care to report?

cheers,
  --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:22:41 -0500


This site here:

http://www.geocities.com/~sandcastle/venture.htm

Has extensive Ventures discographies (including song titles), broken down
into separate listings for US, Japan, UK and "Other International" releases.



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture
Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:27:23 -0500


Ross -

I think "Bumble Bee Twist" is on a "Best of" compilation - I'll check =
tonight.

I have a large surf collection and suddenly realized that The Ventures =
don't really fit nicely into that category.  Their most "surfy" stuff is =
probably Ventures in Space.

They've always sounded too "polite" and "studio" to these ears.....

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Drugs and Art
Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:31:25 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:09:00 +0100
>From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Records)

>You take for granted that these artists would make interesting art
>without their drug abuse.

Art is a combination of feeling, inborn talent and practiced skill.
Drugs do nothing to give one talent or skill, they can only tear
down the barriers to experiencing feelings. The problem is, most of
the time the barrier blocking a creative person from feeling and
creating is erected by the addiction itself. It's a vicious cycle
that doesn't do anyone any good. Drugs aren't responsible for art,
artists are.

See ya
Steve


      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the worm turns
Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:37:46 -0500


Now here's an amusing twist.

The NAB is suing the RIAA:

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-1596623.html?tag=st.ne.1002.thed.1005-200-1596623




m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture
Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:34:39 -0800 (PST)


I have nearly all (missing Beach Party, Learn to Play
withs and Bobby Vee meets)their US release lps up
until the early 70s. I think the Bumble Bee Twist is
either on A Go-Go or Wild Things, and I know that
Movin' & Groovin' is pretty much the same as Duane
Eddy's

I have read somewhere that WDR was the Ventures debut,
lp by the way. I believe that the self-titled lp is
actually their second.


> Hawaiian War Chant
> Blue Tango
> Perfida
 Moon of Manakoora
Beyond the Reef
 Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White
 Yellow Bird
 Movin' & Groovin'
 Bumble Bee Twist  [I have GOT to hear this one!]
 Besame Mucho
 Dark Eyes Twist

> Anyone out there have these? Care to report?


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture
Date: 29 Mar 2000 15:39:59 -0500


I think the Bumble Bee Twist is
> either on A Go-Go or Wild Things,

Bumble bee twist is not on A-Go-Go.  I think A-Go-Go and In Space are =
their
two best rekkids.  I have an original Walk Dont Run, in mono, and its =
not as
exciting IMHO.  Surfin' is a fun album too.

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=
=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
[e-mail]
 =20



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) porn soundtracks
Date: 29 Mar 2000 23:01:07 +0000



> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:50:59 +0000
> From: <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: (exotica) Sex-O-Rama

I asked:

> Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks?

Charlie Moseley wrote:

> I have Deep Throat, which is badly recorded but quite funky,

I don't have that one (saw the movie but I must confess that for some
inexplicable reason I can't recall the music), and was very happy to
find the track "Gorgeous Linda" (Mrs. Lovelace, I presume) by The
Lions in the french comp. "Orchestral Party, Act 1". Same comp has a
cool throatspotation track: "Super Erotica" by "Super Erotica" (got
it?), from the soundtrack to the movie "Rita: Erotica".
But my fave porn tune is Claudia Vita's "Amame", which is spanish for
"love me"; I have sometimes seen it listed as "Amami", which is
Italian. Whether she is Spanish or Italian it is not clear, as the
"lyrics" won't help a lot but, hey, she has a truly evocative voice
anyway. Check the track on "Mood Mosaic, vol. 3: The Sexploitation";
there's also another C. Vita suspirious track ("Dr. Piano") in it.
And I would add the 2 vols. of "Nymphomania"; not much porn
soundtrack music as one would expect on these, but at least the cover
girls help to get the idea.
Any other perverted has some more tracks/records to point out to me?
Ehm, ciao
gionni paduli



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Chipmunks
Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:04:06 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 21:38:35 +1000
>From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks

>Who was responsible then for the album "Chipmunk Punk" which contains no
>less than three covers of songs by The Knack?

That was Ross Jr... The story goes that some DJ in Maine played
Blodie's "Call Me" at 45 instead of 33 and announced that it was
from the new album by Alvin & the Chipmunks titled "Chipmunk Punk".
It was just a joke, but the DJ found out that record stores all over
the area were flooded with calls asking for the non-existent album.
Ross Jr. caught wind of what was going on, and quickly cranked out
the album to take advantage of the publicity and it ended up selling
like hotcakes. I believe it went gold in the US and Platinum in
Australia (a hotbed of Chipmunk fandom).

>------------------------------

>Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:37:33 EST
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks / David Seville / Ross B.
>
>WOw.  I am a huge fan of Ross Bagdasarian, especially his non-Chipmunk 45s,
>LPs, B-sides etc.  So far I have been unable to gind any biographical
>information on him at all.  I know he wrote some hit tunes for pop artists
>(Come-On-A-My House for R. Clooney being one example) and produced some girl
>singers in the 50s.  But, hell, I don't even know when or how he passed away.

He died in the mid 70s of a heart attack. He had retired from show
business and was operating a vinyard. At the time he passed away,
he was the largest supplier of grapes to Gallo, so you can get
an idea of the size of his operation.

The origin of the Chipmunks was pure luck. Ross Sr. had spent all of
his savings to buy a reel to reel tape recorder. He experimented with
speeding up voices with the Witch Doctor single, but that was a brief
hit, then it disappeared. He came up with "The Chipmunk Song" (Christmas
Don't Be Late) and went to Liberty Records to see if they would release
it. He found out that Liberty was on the verge of bankruptcy. He pointed
out that they had a large supply of vinyl pucks (the raw material 45s
were made of) and if they went under, the bank would just end up with
them... no reason not to press them up into Chipmunk singles. Liberty
said OK, so they did a batch of singles and sent them out to radio
stations. Suddenly the roof blew off and the demand for the singles
was huge. If you have one of the singles, you can tell what batch it's
from by the color of the label. They were pressing them so fast, they
ran out of the original purple label and went to green... then red...
then about four other colors. They ended up selling more records in
the three months before Christmas 1958 than any other record had sold
in an entire year up to that point.

Ross Sr. wasn't a musician per se. He would sit on the piano bench
next to his arranger and hum out the melodies for him. The cool
bouncing saxophone sound of his early records made the animated
Alvin Show one of the best shows of its era.

Feel free to ask if there's any specific info you're looking for.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) porn soundtracks
Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:08:37 -0500



> > Anyone's got authentic vintage porn soundtracks?

I have "I, A Woman 2" (although grammatically that probably should be "I'm
a woman as well") with soundtrack by Sven Gyldmark, whose career stretched
over 50 years!  I cannot recall the soundtrack, but I don't recall it being
such a much.

Brian Phillips (which I found out is an adult film star's name!  I swear
it's not me!)




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chipmunks
Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:31:52 +1000


on 30/3/00 7:04 AM, Stephen W. Worth at [e-mail] wrote:

> That was Ross Jr... The story goes that some DJ in Maine played
> Blodie's "Call Me" at 45 instead of 33 and announced that it was
> from the new album by Alvin & the Chipmunks titled "Chipmunk Punk".
> It was just a joke, but the DJ found out that record stores all over
> the area were flooded with calls asking for the non-existent album.
> Ross Jr. caught wind of what was going on, and quickly cranked out
> the album to take advantage of the publicity and it ended up selling
> like hotcakes. I believe it went gold in the US and Platinum in
> Australia (a hotbed of Chipmunk fandom).

Good story and it certainly shows up a lot in those piles of vinyl at the
"op-shops" down under.

Philip
--




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:19:01 -0500


At 04:06 PM 3/29/00 +0200, Moritz R wrote:
>
>
>Which ARE the early ones, I mean: what was on them? Own compositions or
covers
>of 50s rock hits? Funny that I don't know about this. The Ventures are one of
>my all-time favorite bands. I thought covering rock hits was all they ever
>did.

First of all, I'm probably confusing matters a bit when I talk about early
vs later Ventures, given that I'm really just talking about a matter of a
few years difference.
I call the records "earlier" when they're covering tunes like "More",
"Memphis" and "Wipe out" as they do on "Let's Go!" or when they're covering
the "Pink Panther Theme" on "The Fabulous Ventures".
On the other hand, on that same record they also cover "Needles and Pins"
so they're starting to move to the kind of material I call "later".
But I call it "later" when they're covering stuff like "The Mighty Quinn"
and "Cry like a baby" which they do on "Flights of Fantasy" or "I'm a
Believer" which they do on "Guitar Freakout".
My general preference for the "later" ones is not based solely on the kind
of hits they cover.  It's also based on the sound they go for in their
original material.
I think my favourite Ventures record - of the ones I have anyway - is
"Ventures in Space".  And I call that an earlier one.  AND it's mostly
original tunes.
But they really go for this heavy "in space" sound and it works.
I really like their earlier more "tinny" material too but I guess I prefer
them when they're trying to be a bit heavier,  when they use a bit of fuzz
guitar, when they're doing their version of a "guitar freakout" or their
version of "psychedelia".
And you generally find MORE of this kind of stuff on records where they're
covering "Sunshine of your Love" than you do on records where they're
covering "Tequila".
On the other hand, I've heard some stuff that is a bit later than I'm
calling "later" and for me, they were starting to lose it by then.
Even on some of the later ones that I have - like Swamp Rock - they were
starting to lose the thing which made them great.
This is a hard thing to talk about without actually playing the stuff for
you but I guess that's not the first time that's happened on this list.
I used to think they were kind of a joke band but then I bought this great
CD "The ep Collection".  And then I heard "In space".
They really did have a sound that was somehow distinct from other guitar
instrumental or surf bands.  I can't explain it but it's unmistakable.
And you can hear that sound on what I'm calling the "early stuff".  You
might even say that you can hear it more consistently on those records.
But I prefer the stuff when they were trying to change their sound - a bit
- to keep up with the British Invasion and the psychedelic era etc etc.
Like a lot of exotica - for me - it failed in ways that I find compelling.

And I can't leave this subject behind without (once again) mentioning the
parallel to Sandy Nelson records.  In that case, his earlier records with
all those long drum passages, pretty well suck.  But when he started
covering "rock hits" in the mid to later sixties, his records were
basically Ventures records with a bit more organ in the background.  And
those records are really good.  So in that case, I'd totally recommend the
later over the earlier.
With the Ventures, it's not so clear cut.

Nat



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New arrivals
Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:18:59 -0500


At 02:07 PM 3/29/00 +0000, [e-mail]
wrote:
>
>Volker Kriegel - Spectrum. A Jazz LP with a very cool sitar track Zoom,
>similar to Dave Pike's Mathar but with more noodling. Quality German jazz.

Is this the same "Zoom" that is on the exoticaring tape that you just
received?  In other words, is it a cover of the "Zoom" that's on the "Live
for Life" soundtrack?
Or maybe there were a lot of different songs named Zoom.  It's a good word.

Nat




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:20:03 -0800


>The following is outside the charter of this group - unfortunately, I just
>can't help myself on this one...

No issue like Napster should be outside the "charter" of any group that
discusses music because it *affects* music.  And since it's pretty safe
to say that 99% of us who read these messages do so on a computer (and
not WebTV), it affects us who use computers as well (those who choose to
use Napster, that is).

>Whoa. This is _way_ too bizarre.

Absolutely nothing bizarre about it.  Suffer some data loss from a hard
drive failure of ANY kind (let alone thievery) and you'll soon learn to
backup on a very regular basis what you don't want to bother to recreate
from scratch.  Don't want to bother with backing up because "it's too
much effort"???  When something happens to your precious data because you
didn't want to make the effort to back it up, then *I'll* be the one who
snickers.

>BTW - it is possible to crack your password protected zip disks.

No it's not, not without rewriting/initializing the discs (which would
defeat the entire purpose of getting what's on them).  When a password is
written at the root level of a drive or disc, there is no mechanism by
which to defeat it without destroying the data on the disk in the process.

>You can't
>bypass it, but you can crack it - I'll start with "wanderley"...

Sorry, that's NOT one of my passwords...[sigh] everyone knows that you
don't use proper names or dictionarily spelled words as passwords.

>What in the ^%#* is so sensitive as to warrant such anally retentive
>behavior? I simply must know!

Yeah, I'll bet you would.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography:
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/Wanderley/main.html
http://bjbear3.freeservers.com/Wanderley/main.html



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:48:23 EST


How about Wrapster.  It allows you to send archive files through the Napster
system.  It tacks an mp3 tag onto the archive so Napster thinks it's an mp3
and sends it on it's jolly way.  I think it will be a great alternative to
uploading stuff to an ftp so someone can down load it.  As long as they have
Napster running you can send programs/photos/samples/whatever directly to
them, plus you can password protect the archive so it won't be opened by some
other curious Napster user.

-Roy


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 14:48:39 -0800


BJ again writes in response to my post:

> >Whoa. This is _way_ too bizarre.
>
> Absolutely nothing bizarre about it.

What is bizarre is the continual ham-fisted approach to describing to the
group what is generally considered mundane computer knowledge. For example:

> Suffer some data loss from a hard
> drive failure of ANY kind (let alone thievery) and you'll soon learn to
> backup on a very regular basis what you don't want to bother to recreate
> from scratch.  Don't want to bother with backing up because "it's too
> much effort"???  When something happens to your precious data because you
> didn't want to make the effort to back it up, then *I'll* be the one who
> snickers.

or:

> No it's not, not without rewriting/initializing the discs (which would
> defeat the entire purpose of getting what's on them).  When a password is
> written at the root level of a drive or disc, there is no mechanism by
> which to defeat it without destroying the data on the disk in the process.

or:

> Sorry, that's NOT one of my passwords...[sigh] everyone knows that you
> don't use proper names or dictionarily spelled words as passwords.

Apparently humor is lost on some (reread my original posts if you feel the
need).

I'll stand by my statement - "this is _way_ too bizarre".

BJ - I'm sure that others on this list are getting a little tired of this
thread - please feel free to take this offline with me if you'd like to beat
this dead horse any further.

Very most highest regards,
Erik



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Luxuriamusic
Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:52:46 -0500



So have most of you been over to Luxuramusic.com ? We were talking about
being addicted to drugs or booze. And some of us have mentioned music as a
drug.  I could make a case that it's possible to get addicted to Luxuria.
I listen to it a lot at work. And I'm probably going to have to get a new
computer at home just so I can listen at home.

I've had fun visiting the chat room and watching the DJ's (when they have
them on) on the studio camera.  And they take requests. .A few weeks ago I
requested Esquivel and host Chuck Kelly took the CD case with the playlist
on the back and stuck it in front of the camera. I could see the track
listings and typed in my selection and he played it. Now is that not the
coolest thing or what?

I've been hearing all sorts of new stuff, or new to me, Still trying to
figure out what some of it is really. I'll call it euro/french.  All very
very beautiful.   And a lot  of what I would call traditional lounge
exotica, latin, soundtrack and jazz vocals.   And a lot of the music is in
heavy rotation, mostly because the station can run on autopilot, but I
don't care. Not tired of it yet.

I use Windows Media Player or Quicktime. You can listen in on Real Audio
but it always dies on me. I also say this because many of the fine programs
available on the net I'm just not listening to anymore because RealAudio,
(at least on the computers I've tried it on, the T1 connected one here at
work and my brothers cable connected  home computer) really does not work.
I mention this because Is that the case with many of you?

Domenic.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New arrivals
Date: 30 Mar 2000 01:40:00 +0200




>Berry Lipman - The Most Beautiful Girls in the World - this is a dreadful,
>mushy, crap german easy listening record with the instrumental version of
>The Girls of Paramarimbo as the only worthwhile track. Still not the vocal
>version. Wonder where that one comes from?

Probably from Amsterdam, since that's where most of the Paramaribo
(I suppose it's Paramaribo rather than Paramari*M*bo) Girls have gone
after Surinam became an independent country in 1975.

Cheers, Ton


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 30 Mar 2000 01:44:23 +0200


Artists to Napster: Drop dead!

To many musicians, the MP3 trading software isn't a revolution --

it's a rip-off.

http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2000/03/24/napster_artists/index.html



 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Led Zeppelin and Exotica
Date: 29 Mar 2000 19:39:20 -0500


The following is the 'exotica relevant' portion of an article about John
Paul Jones, bassist for Led Zeppelin, which appeared in today's
Washington Post.

"His parents were a musical-comedy act during the age of vaudeville.
(Mom played the accomplished singer, Dad played the fumbling pianist.)
The bills were crammed with exotica, so young John Baldwin, who toured
with his parents nonstop, heard a lifetime of music before he turned 6.
"There'd be Chinese juggling groups, Arabic tumblers, South Americans,
someone from Poland. I heard all this music all the time," Jones
recalls.

So as improbable as it sounds, the roots of Zeppelin's exotic
eclecticism--the Middle Eastern spice of "Kashmir," the Brazilian samba
break in "Fool in the Rain"--can be traced to the same source that gave
us W.C. Fields. Likewise, the band's occasional forays into
quasi-religious melodies are rooted in Jones's formative years. At 14,
he launched his performing career by playing organ and leading a choir
at his church."

The full article can be found at......
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34884-2000Mar28.html

Vern



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 16:57:18 -0800


>BJ again writes in response to my post:
>
>> >Whoa. This is _way_ too bizarre.
>>
>> Absolutely nothing bizarre about it.
>
>What is bizarre is the continual ham-fisted approach to describing to the
>group what is generally considered mundane computer knowledge.

If it's so mundane, why the ridicule about it?  Why the snickering?  It's
obvious to anyone that you do not take data backup seriously.

*You* are the one who asked what the security issues with Napster were.
I attempted to tell you what they were *in general*.  I elaborated a bit
further to make a point about secure files and ensuring data integrity.
To quote you, "what is generally considered mundane computer knowledge"
*includes* being smart enough not to expose sensitive files in particular
(and your computer system in general) to the public-at-large using
searchable software.  It's just not a good thing to do, common-sense
wise.

>BJ - I'm sure that others on this list are getting a little tired of this
>thread - please feel free to take this offline with me if you'd like to beat
>this dead horse any further.

You apparently give no credit for others being able to either set up a
mail filter or use the delete key.  And because the subject just came up
today--it's hardly a dead horse we're beating.

>Apparently humor is lost on some (reread my original posts if you feel the
>need).

I appreciate humor as much as the next person.  What I don't appreciate
is deliberate sarcasm and nonesensical replies on factual information
that I state.

To others on the list who are genuinely interested in the *other* issues
of Napster:  there are copyright issues which are being infringed in the
use of this software, big time.  Someone on another list who actually
works for ASCAP can tell you what those issues are and why they are
serious ones.  Email me personally if you would like the person's address
to contact about this and I will put you in touch with him.  This is my
last public post on this thread, thanks to Mr. Hoel.

--bj
Home Page w/Links to my music and classic tv sites:
http://bjbear.freeservers.com/main.html
http://members.xoom.com/bjbear71/main.html


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 29 Mar 2000 17:23:34 -0800


Continuing to beat the deadhorse, Ms. Major writes in part:

> If it's so mundane, why the ridicule about it?  Why the snickering?  It's
> obvious to anyone that you do not take data backup seriously.

Clairvoyant aren't we?

> *You* are the one who asked what the security issues with Napster were.
> I attempted to tell you what they were *in general*.  I elaborated a bit
> further to make a point about secure files and ensuring data integrity.

A "bit"?!! Did we really need to hear the grusome details of your data
integrity and security paranoia?

> To quote you, "what is generally considered mundane computer knowledge"
> *includes* being smart enough not to expose sensitive files in particular
> (and your computer system in general) to the public-at-large using
> searchable software.  It's just not a good thing to do, common-sense
> wise.

Duh.

> You apparently give no credit for others being able to either set up a
> mail filter or use the delete key.  And because the subject just came up
> today--it's hardly a dead horse we're beating.

Interesting. This is not the first time on this list that you've been
embroiled in a "just use a mail filter" discussion.

> I appreciate humor as much as the next person.  What I don't appreciate
> is deliberate sarcasm and nonesensical replies on factual information
> that I state.

Oooof!

> To others on the list who are genuinely interested in the *other* issues
> of Napster:  there are copyright issues which are being infringed in the
> use of this software, big time.  Someone on another list who actually
> works for ASCAP can tell you what those issues are and why they are
> serious ones.  Email me personally if you would like the person's address
> to contact about this and I will put you in touch with him.

No need.

> This is my last public post on this thread, thanks to Mr. Hoel.

Oh, it is Dr. Hoel to you Ms. Major - I didn't go to evil Computer Science
graduate school for six years for nothing.

Snicker.

Erik



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Gingerich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster//Gnarly
Date: 29 Mar 2000 12:05:06 -0500




This today from about.com (Digital newsletter), if anyone is interested:

Obviously its just the beginning....(of an unstoppable trend?)

==Tubular, Man==

A new file-swapping software named GNARLY! was released yesterday. GNARLY!
allows users (known as "Dudes" and "Dames") to share files in any format
including MP3, MIDI's, Zips, and everything else. Company founder Markus
Diersbock says "Unlike Napster and iMesh that require a user to download
proprietary Windows software to exchange files, GNARLY! allows users to
search and retrieve files with GNARLY!, a Web browser, or FTP client." Find
out more and sign up



 at http://www.CircleBox.com/



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Target" Store Laurent Lombard Commercial
Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:08:03 -0800


Hey!  Do any of you out there have "Target" Stores.
Maybe they only exist on the west coast.

I saw a great commercial on TV last night for, I think, Chairs, advertising
chairs and the music was LAURENT LOMBARD from Happyland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was a commercial for chairs and people were playing "musical chairs" and
the music
was Laurent Lombard and a tune I play all the time on my show
Can't remember the name of it though

IT ROCKS and you WILL dig it, when/if you see/hear it

Jack





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Howl: For the New Millenium (with apologies to Allen Ginsberg)
Date: 29 Mar 2000 10:11:33 -0800


Someone forwarded this to me;

Howl.com (with apologies to Allen Ginsberg)
- - - - - - - - - - - - ByThomas Scoville

I saw the best minds of my occupation destroyed by venture
capital, burned-out, paranoid, postal, dragging themselves through the
Cappuccino streets of Palo Alto at Dawn looking for an equity-sharing,
stock option fix, HTML-headed Web-sters coding for the infinite broadband
connection to that undiscovered e-commerce mother lode in the airy
reaches of IP namespace, who poverty and ripped Yahoo tee shirts, cubicle-eyed
and wired on Starbucks sat up surfing in the virtual ether of
one-million-dollar, one-bathroom condos next to the railroad tracks,
skipping across the links of killer Web sites contemplating ... Java,
who rammed their brains into compilers and saw Intel angels staggering on
microchips under the insane weight of investor expectation, who blew off
the search for Truth for as-yet-undreamed New Economy scams, business models
hallucinating infocapitalist messiahs on clouds of market cap, who
abandoned lucid dreams of a Better Way for Shockwave fluff and RealAudio
baubles
dangling from the buggy venality of digital commerce, who, while haunted
by the scowling ghosts of hackers past-Stallman, Nelson, Engelbart-
auctioned their immortal souls on eBay, with documentation and a full
year of support included, of course, who got busted in their spotless Nike
cross-trainers traveling through cyberspace with a file of illegal
crypto for Open Source, who ate sushi in Austin or drank microbrews in Silicon
Alley, jousting with bad mojo funk of layoffs, Chapter 11, or diluted
company stock night after night, who chained themselves to start-ups for
the endless ride from San Jose to Wall Street on adrenaline and Evian,
laptop batteries flaming out over Oklahoma, no more vegetarian entrees, sir,
would you like the latex omelet instead? endless nights of keyboard grinding
and corporate microwave popcorn and Jolt Cola until the noise of their own
deadlines brought them down, gawping, convulsing, mute, crushed beneath
their own project plans, who talked continuously about convergence and
distributed control and cluetrains and Y2K and extropians and
Libertarians and Microsoft and Linux and slashdot and wouldn't fucking shut
up, who
pointed their browsers at Red Herring and Slate and Salon.com hoping
against hope that somebody might be able to make sense of the infinitely
perverse, ball-busting, soul-scorching, silicon-supernova black hole that kept
them awake all night every night and wouldn't let them alone long enough to
find dates in this lifetime, who tattoo'd and pierced and dyed and branded
themselves in a desperate act of self-mutilating cyber-hepster cool, all
the while wearing a suit and tie on the inside they could never, ever take
off, and praying nobody would find out about the MBA, who renounced the
smokestack relics, the old guard and their father's Oldsmobile only to
find that they had been replaced by artifacts even less substantial, who
chanted the free market mantras of laissez-faire and techno-darwinism and Adam
Smith's invisible hand-job except when Big Bad Bill the Bully
Gates-of-hell came to take away their lunch.com-and became Socialists of
Convenience.org, who stalked investment bankers through Bistros and wine
bars and martini lounges, begging pleading groveling for one more hit of
funding from the luminous check-book oh please oh please oh please ah,
Bill, you are not safe, I am not safe, and now we languish in the dot com
pressure cooker hoping for one last buzz of the old hallucinations. The wrecked
avenues, the sullied conduits, the pinched pipes of a quadrillion
dropped and ruined packets. The world wide waits, the denials of service, the
infinite hosts of hardcore farm-animal boredom, ghoulish domain-name
squatters jumping out from behind every virtual tree. These failed
revolutions, these paradigms lost, the end of Web Time, and P/E ratios
good to last the next thousand years. Dot



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Help!  (Nitty Gritty)
Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:49:11 -0800 (PST)


I got a Nitty Gritty Model 1.5 FI MK2 for Christmas,
but haven't had a chance to work with it until just
recently.  Alas, I lost the directions!

Does anyone have a similar model and could forward me
some basic record cleaning instructions?

Please let me know!
Peter

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #668
Date: 29 Mar 2000 13:12:34 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 08:26:46 -0800
>From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com

>Napster is certainly a cool idea - the music industry seems to be going
>after mp3.com and napster. The genie is certainly out of the bottle. The
>major problem with napster is speed and the music selection is
>_very_ pedestrian.

The best source of MP3s of stuff we are interested in is the binaries
newsgroups...

alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1950s
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1960s

Most ISP's have terrible coverage of the binary groups. You can get
a low cost independent usenet server from supernews.com or giganews.com
Well worth the few bucks a month for the great selection of music.

Over the past few months, I've found some amazing stuff... from
Egyptian music from the twenties to whole albums ripped from vinyl
like Dean Elliot's "Zounds What Sounds" and obscure tracks by the
Hoosier Hot Shots. One guy even posted the first stereo recording,
a medley of hits by Duke Ellington's Cotton Club orchestra from
1933! It's great to be able to experiment and try new things again.
CDs are so expensive, it's impossible to take a chance on something
unknown.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Which is "classic" Denny lineup?
Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:25:39 -0800


I was thinking about this the other day, which is the "classic" Martin
Denny lineup? In other words, when you think "Martin Denny Group" which
do you think of?

Denny, Arthur Lyman (vibes), John Kramer (Bass), Augie Colon (percussion)
or
Denny, Julius Wechter (vibes), Harvey Ragsdale (Bass), Colon

One might argue for the original lineup, having recorded the seminal
original version of "Exotica", would be considered the classic lineup.
But, that group only recorded one album as a group.

OTOH, the second lineup existing during Denny's period of most popular
acclaim (1958-1960).

This is probably only of interests to deep-seated Martin Denny geeks
like me, but I know there are others out there...

Kevin Crossman
--
***********************************************************
*     Kevin Crossman           [e-mail]            *
*   http://www.kevdo.com  - The Narrow Interest Portal    *
*  Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive  *
***********************************************************


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Luxuriamusic
Date: 29 Mar 2000 23:29:18 EST


Dom,
We are in agreement re: real audio.  It is a waste of time for me.  I can
never hear more than one song all the way through without buffering, net
congestion, or some other excuse for the feed being interupted.  I'll try one
of those other systems you recommended.
Larry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ
Date: 29 Mar 2000 22:58:33 -0500


 BJ wrote:
> Anytime you have your computer connected to the internet 24/7 and are
> running a program like Napster (or a host of others which, in essence
> makes your hard drive(s) "available" to others), there are security
risks...
> what's to stop someone else from writing a program that would work with
> Napster (or another application), to do a search for data sensitive,
> personal files on your computer?  Anything from your bank account
> balance, income tax data files you happen to be working on, etc.
I may not be understanding this correctly but unless your machine is
operating as a web server, I cannot see how your personal files could be at
risk of being probed. As I understand it, running NT server using NTFS on
all or a partition of your disk open to the web provides you with all the
protection you need from the outside.  The Win 95/98 FAT system offers no
such security and leaves you wide open provided you use your machine as a
web server. If so it would seem a wise idea to leave this kind of software
ie Napster alone.

> What I've been doing for a while now just to be safe is to keep ALL data
> sensitive files like the above off my main hard drives, period.  They're
> never stored there.  Those types of files I store on zip discs and back
> up weekly on CD-RWs... And, if someone happens to burgle my
> home, all the zip discs are password protected at the root level which is
> impossible to bypass!
Sounds like you have a bit too much spare time on your hands... For backups
there are numerous approaches but I look for a practical compromise since I
have a lot less spare time available. For partial or full system backups a
second hard drive, something most everyone has (ie. an old one you no longer
use) is an easy solution. Zip disks or even floppies if you are really
patient or want to pay the inflated Iomega price.  CDRW's are totally
useless as you must wipe them before re-recording and they do not allow
incremental backup which would seem to be a more "time effective" way to
backup data. For fire security it would be prudent to store copies of
critical data in a bank vault (ie. safety deposit box) and update them say
once or twice a year or as required.  Having passwod protected disks may
foil a burglar but it will also foil anyone else in the event you may not be
there to provide the password and the need may arise. I live in Canada so
this isn't a big issue (though stealing a Pentium 100 desktop would be a bit
unprofitable for the thief given its weight/value ratio) but to me, a much
simpler approach would seem to be to password protect your system at logon.

This being said I'd seriously recommend you get out more often... Between
this thread and that wacky "drugs" post I'm starting to become suspicious
that you're on the list as ringer for the moral majority or something!!! No
I really don't want you to answer this. I just can't face another discussion
of this sort...  and I'm normally a really patient person...





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MAJOR find in SF Bay Area
Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:42:54 -0800


This is a good news/bad news story (of sorts).

So, I happened to be driving around Redwood City, CA the other day (near
San Francisco) and happened to see a used record store called "The
Record Man". I stopped by...

The store was a converted house and the place was literally filled from
floor to ceiling with LPs (just a few CDs and Tapes). Creaky and uneven
wood floors, chipping paint, and an old feel... but still impressed by
the volume of records. I asked the owner if they had any Exotica and he
send the other worker (his son?) to show me "Upstairs in the
Instrumental EZ listening section... there is a record player up there,
help yourself."   The kid proceeds to grab a key and walk me out the
store, then up a staircase on the side of the building. He unlocks the
door to reveal another full story full of more and more LPs.

He shows me the EZ Listening section and I immediately go to the D's to
look for Martin Denny. And what to my wondering eyes appear, but
literally 4-5 feet worth of Martin Denny LPs. Name an album and it was
there... the early stuff, the late stuff, everything!  Most in Very Good condition.

For kicks, I checked out the Arthur Lyman section. Disappointed, there
were only three feet worth of records here ;-)  !!

Unfortunately, no Exotica Suite in the Si Zetner section ... oh I forgot
to even look at the Les Baxter section I was so awestruck by the
selection in the Martin Denny section.

Well, this story doesn't have a sad ending but ain't exactly completely
rosy.  I take three albums down (Exotic Percussion, Latin Village,
Exotic Love) and ask how much. The owner proceeds to look them up in the
used record store "blue book" and says they are $20-$24 each. Ouch!  I
know the guy needs to make a living but you always hope for some sort of "steal".

So, I drop Exotic Love and leave only mildly disappointed.

Interestingly, I did talk to the guy about Exotica and he said he really
dug that stuff... but that Lyman was "his" guy. He is impressed when I
tell him I saw Lyman play in Waikiki last fall...

Not a bargain but absolutely no complaints about the selection... I will
return, soon! Kevdo says check it out.

The Record Man, 1322 El Camino Real, Redwood City, CA 94063
650-368-9065
[e-mail]

-Kevin Crossman, Exotica Archive.
--
***********************************************************
*     Kevin Crossman           [e-mail]            *
*   http://www.kevdo.com  - The Narrow Interest Portal    *
*  Lip Balm Anonymous, Ultimate Mai Tai, Exotica Archive  *
***********************************************************


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) I rest my case now...
Date: 29 Mar 2000 23:42:43 -0500


BJ wrote:
> Discs for these cost a bit more, but if you buy them in bulk from a mail
order
> place, they turn out to be about $1.37 more each than computer CD-Rs.
ABOUT $1.37 more!!!





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) April 1 in SF French Pop Rules
Date: 29 Mar 2000 20:11:51 -0800


BARDOT IS BACK!

The Grooviest Girl in Gaul has returned to San Francisco for one night  of
Sexy Swinging and French Fun!  See her new Parisian Party Pad at 330 Ritch
Street and Celebrate Serge Gainsbourg's Birthday!

Ooh La La!

Bardot A Go-Go
330 Ritch Street, San Francisco
Saturday April 1st, 2000
9pm-2am

Brought to you by Luxuriamusic.com and Allthingsfrench.com

http://www.frankenstein.com




* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) MAJOR find in SF Bay Area
Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:23:41 +0000


So, I happened to be driving around Redwood City, CA the other day (near
San Francisco) and happened to see a used record store called "The
Record Man.




I'm from London, and I've been there and I've been going on about that
place for years. More than 1,000,000 alphabetically sorted records. But
pricey. And the guy who runs the place is a fucking twat.

Next time you go to Record Man, work out when the owner (Record Man
himself) isn't going to be there. Take records that probably won't be in
the main price guide, and get the son to price them. As he begins to look
up the price in the price guide, say: 'twelve dollars?' half inqusitively,
half like you know what the price should be and watch the dumb bastard
stick $12 on the record for you (e.g., mint copy of the Barbarella
soundtrack). Make sure you bring a big pile to the counter. He'll price the
first few by the book, and then laziness will set in. The further down the
pile he goes, the easier you'll find it is to suggest your own prices. It's
all about psychology.

Charlie

PS. Why do so many Americans start their sentences with 'so'. Is it from
watching too much TV? :-)


+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: paul <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 30 Mar 2000 01:24:37 -0800


the funny thing is napster/macster, don't even scratch the surface
of what is "going on" out there overall.  there are many other comparable
venues, that i won't elaborate upon and you'll never read about in
commercial media.

as a guy that's worked at indie record labels and put out more than
a few groups on my own lil occassional label venture... i have really
mixed feelings about whats occurring.

while unlimited free downloads in theory exposes new groups, in practice
what you really have is 95,000 unknown living room recording artists'
unloading their demos as product on MP3.com ...  and all the real file
sharing is kids downloading tracks, albums, and videos by predominantly
the 'existing order' of entertainment conglomerate acts being pushed,
or already established.

i dare anyone to actually try to spend an
hour downloading or streaming new acts by browsing through MP3.com...
the experience is sheer torture.   95,000 acts in 280 music genre
catagories !?!   (yes, those are the actual numbers, not exaggeration
for dramas' sake).

has the aggregate talent of those 95,000 acts produced even ONE
act that has gone on to even significant regional success, much
less national ... no it hasn't.

unless a band is confident they can benefit from giving away their
music, in by packing concert halls or something i am at a loss to
discern how they are better off ?  so, they're trading one greedy
boss (an 'evil' record company) for another (music fans that want
free music) ...

i can confess i'm not terribly psyched about ponying up a few to
several thousand bucks (which i've done) given what is going on
currently.  i'm totally into sharing files and sampling music online
and shit ...but spend a couple hours in the quad of any major university...
every other conversation you'll hear someone ...  "yeah, i'll burn
you a cd of it, so you don't have to buy it ..."   95% of university
students have T-1 speed online access now.

Paul Moshay




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 30 Mar 2000 01:34:38 -0800



> i can confess i'm not terribly psyched about ponying up a few to
> several thousand bucks (which i've done) recording/releasing
> groups given what is going on currently.

> i'm totally into sharing files and sampling music online
> and shit ...but spend a couple hours in the quad of any major university...
> every other conversation you'll hear someone ...  "yeah, i'll burn
> you a cd of it, so you don't have to buy it ..."   95% of university
> students have T-1 speed online access now.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:14:20 +0200




Nat Kone wrote:

> This is a hard thing to talk about without actually playing the stuff for
> you but I guess that's not the first time that's happened on this list.

No problem. I get it. I thought you were talking about records before those who
you call the early ones. I am relieved that there are none. All the others you
talk about I have and I like both styles. One thing that changed during the 60s
in general was the  use of heavy reverb amplifiers. The drier pieces of the
Ventures have a fascination of their own, sometimes they sound almost like
chamber music.

> I used to think they were kind of a joke band but then I bought this great
> CD "The ep Collection".  And then I heard "In space".
> They really did have a sound that was somehow distinct from other guitar
> instrumental or surf bands.  I can't explain it but it's unmistakable.

They are very good instrumentalists, they seldom fail grooving. Everything is
more lightly than other guitar groups. Maybe that's what some experience as too
"studio" and too "polite", but I like it. Especially decades after it was created
when all questions of political statements have lost their meaning and only craft
and mastership count.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Art
Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:15:30 +0200


Stephen W. Worth wrote:

> >From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
> >Subject: (exotica) Drugs and music (was: More More! Religious Records)
>
> >You take for granted that these artists would make interesting art
> >without their drug abuse.
>
> Art is a combination of feeling, inborn talent and practiced skill.
> Drugs do nothing to give one talent or skill, they can only tear
> down the barriers to experiencing feelings. The problem is, most of
> the time the barrier blocking a creative person from feeling and
> creating is erected by the addiction itself. It's a vicious cycle
> that doesn't do anyone any good. Drugs aren't responsible for art,
> artists are.

OK. The digest mode seems to create flashbacks on threads that already en=
ded.
No problem. Let's do it again.

As I see it, many misunderstandings come from the way we think and argue.=
  I
have to be a little bit basic here:
I grew up reading G.W.F. Hegel, who was a German philosopher of the 18th/=
19th
century. The big thing about Hegel and the real progress he caused in
philosophy was, that contradictions aren't just contradictions. Contradic=
tions
always contain a nucleus of common meaning, otherwise you couldn't compar=
e two
statements to find out they are contradictions. That's why for me it is n=
ot at
all hard to understand, why on one hand, yes, it's the artist, who makes =
and
is responsible for art, and, yes, on the other hand, a drug can take an
influence on an artist, that absolutely changes his way to see the world =
and
therefore changes his art. So a drug really can have an influence on art.=
 What
you say up there to me is only a scholastic statement with no significant
meaning to the subject we discussed.
What we discussed was, why apparently did and still do so many artists us=
e
drugs? Nobody said, they created art under the direct influence of drugs.
Nobody said, they don't have talent. Nobody said they don't have to pract=
ice
to develop skills. Nobody said, drugs can't ruin a person. Nobody even sa=
id,
that taking the drug has something to do with their art directely, they m=
ight
drink just to not feel lonely. But it is so obvious and proven that
aquaintances with drugs have offered people - not only artists, btw - vie=
ws,
that they could use to create art, inventions, emotional changes in
relationships, visions of a better world etc.  We may differ, to what ext=
ent
these drug experiences have changed the world, directly and indirectly. B=
ut
that wasn't the point of the discussion. The point was, that it's impossi=
ble
to claim, that all that drugs ever do is to ruin talented artists and tha=
t
without drugs these artists would all stay creative persons till their hi=
gh
age. It's like saying, all these great artists were so stupid to take dru=
gs,
when it is so obvious that drugs don't do anything good to them, only rui=
n
them, take away their creativity and health and finally their life. Do yo=
u
really believe that? Dont tell me, the artists who made "Los Tres Caballe=
ros"
didn't make the aquaintance of any psychedelic drugs while travelling Sou=
th
America in 1941 to make scetches for the film. Because I wouldn't believe=
 it.
I wouldn't even believe it if they would tell me themselves. And once a f=
ilm
like that is out, the influence of psychedelics is carried into the art o=
f
others, who've seen it, without them taking drugs themselves.

The interesting point in your post is, that one way drugs work is tearing=
 down
barriers to experience emotions. I agree. And thoughts and visions, I add.
These barriers haven't always been there. One major reason for such barri=
ers
is our modern world, competition society with its insane contradictory de=
mands
on the individual. The clash of a highly artificial society and a natural
inner self creates all kinds of schizophrenic dilemmas and may block free
emotions and creativity. So if you are not one of those few people who li=
ve on
a constant natural high and have halucinations even without drugs, like D=
al=ED
or Picasso, a drug may help you to become one with your own nature for a =
few
hours, which can be a truly important experience, if only to show you tha=
t you
have been unhappy all the time before. It can be like going back to natur=
e.
It's an encounter with your most archaic feelings, that were buried by mo=
dern
life. And here we are in the middle of what Exotica is all about. I thoug=
ht
this thread is very much list-related, but apparently not many see it tha=
t
way.


Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I rest my case now...
Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:16:14 +0200


Blank CD ROMs are down to 0.9 US$ now here. A friend told me, he records
audio CDs on his computer using those and is able to play them on his
regular CD player. So does this mean, you need these special more
expensive audio CDRs only when you burn them on an audio CDR recorder?

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Led Zeppelin and Exotica
Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:22:41 +0200




[e-mail] wrote:

> So as improbable as it sounds, the roots of Zeppelin's exotic
> eclecticism--the Middle Eastern spice of "Kashmir," the Brazilian samba
> break in "Fool in the Rain"--can be traced to the same source that gave
> us W.C. Fields.

Funny, just listened to a lot of Led Zeppelin the other night with friends and
my general impression was, that most of the used rhythms were not typical rock
rhythms. My friend, who is a drummer, first said, it's boogie and shuffle,
which I questioned, and later he had to admit, it's not. A rhythm like in
Whole Lotta Love, what is it really?

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Art
Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:08:59 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

> But but but. It is not real. You say that a drug can 'help you to become
> one with your own nature for a few
> hours' but in the case of most drugs, this is a misconception. The drug
> alters your perception to an unreal state for a few hours. The drug doesn't
> allow you to become yourself, the drug changes you into someone else and
> what seems normal and right is actually unreal and distorted. Its not 'an
> encounter with your most archaic feelings, that were buried by modern
> life', its just a hallucaination.
>

As I said in an earlier post, we have to make distinctions here: I certainly
don't agree with you in the cases of LSD, mescalin and psylocybin. I agree
with you for cocaine and alcohol, but sometimes I just have fun to experience
myself as someone better than I really am. But even this has to be
differentiated: I can actually play music more precisely on cocaine. Not that
I tried it very often... still, it's true. At least for me. Drugs may have
different effects on different people. I mean, they definitely have.

Mo



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Which is "classic" Denny lineup?
Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:21:52 EST


In a message dated 3/29/00 11:24:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Denny, Julius Wechter (vibes), Harvey Ragsdale (Bass), Colon >>

This is probably what Mr. Denny considers the "core 4" players.  For years
there were bad "vibes" between he and Lyman.  I think it was patched up in
recent years.  Still, this was the group that toured and recorded together so
much.

There is a picture of the above 4 taken in the early days that Denny likes to
see in liner notes, etc. of CD that are re-released.   In fact, Capitol used
a different picture in the Breakfast of Champions release and Mr. Denny was
kind of embarrassed to give it to Augie because Augie was not in the picture.
 Augie was in the hospital at the time (see below) and Denny thought how
would giving Augie a CD with his (Augies's) music on it cheer him up when
they don't even have his picture in the liner notes?

As mentioned on the list before, Don Tiki did a beautiful "Tribute to Denny"
at the end of the Honolulu Film Festival a few months ago.  There was an open
invitation to Lyman and Colon to come and play a few tunes with Mr. Denny and
the band.

Augie, in spite of recently having a couple of toes removed secondary to
diabetic/circulatory complications, came but Lyman did not.  This is not to
say Lyman did not have a good reason to not come, but he does play down the
street every Friday afternoon AND this was a helluva event, what with getting
these old exoticats together with the Don Tiki crew.  Mr. Denny indicated
that he was a little saddened that Lyman did not come -- it would have been a
nice "reunion."

I hope this is helpful.

<<This is probably only of interests to deep-seated Martin Denny geeks
like me, but I know there are others out there...

It is hard for me to type with one hand raised in the air.

TB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) So
Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:24:42 EST


In a message dated 3/30/00 4:24:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< PS. Why do so many Americans start their sentences with 'so'. Is it from
 watching too much TV? :-) >>

it is the american equivalent of "now then."


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ
Date: 30 Mar 2000 07:32:38 EST


In a message dated 3/29/00 11:37:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, a fun loving
exoticat writes:

<< Sounds like you have a bit too much spare time on your hands...  >>

i always love it when a response to someones post starts like this.

tb


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "ClichΘ" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 50-300 micro Henry adjustable inductance
Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:37:42 +0200


Peace on ear!

in the last six month I tried several ways to get a "50-300 micro Henry
adjustable inductance" for my new theremin but now I have lost  hope.

A musician without a theremin is like a bird without a coat, so absurd.
You are my last hope. My blood, my life, my records for a theremin.

kisses,
cliche








# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture
Date: 30 Mar 2000 08:21:23 -0500


>_Walk Don't Run _ (BLP 2003/BST 8003)
>_The Ventures_ (BLP 2004/BST 8004)

Liners for my copy of "The Ventures" state flatly that it's their followup
for   "Walk Don't Run." I LOVE "The Ventures" and almost exploded when I
found it for a buck at a thrift a few months ago. Grimy oft-played mono
wax, but for my ears, it suits the music.

You gotta get "The Ventures," Ross, because it offers
>Hawaiian War Chant - Heats up as it goes. Groovy tomtoms.
>Blue Tango - Can the Ventures do cheez tango? You bet. Dashes of the boys
>going "ahh" on an heavily instru record.
>Perfida - Opens with riff taken right from the tune "Walk Don't Run." Rock
>n mambo.
>Moon of Manakoora - Really pretty with more wordless "ahhs." Bass line
>straight from Fats Domino.

My fav cut on the LP is "Harlem Nocturne." Straightahead cover with some
reverb stuff tossed in that makes it nice and moody and sexy. Am also fond
of "Lonesome Town" because of a female "ahh" vocal that could be a space
siren on a different record. "Torquay" and "Wailin'" are almost perfect
twist tunes -- alert, Moritz. "Wailin'" will leave you sweating and asking,
Who put the Benzedrine in the Ventures' Ovaltine? A couple of cuts with
country twang  bring to mind Billy Mure in Nashville mode.

Look for this LP, Ross. Lots of that great Ventures sound of pure trebly
guitars playing off low register solos and the beat my big brother named
the "Baby Um-BAH". Listen to most early Ventures tracks, you'll hear that
"Baby um-BAH" fits.

Giddily yours,
Mimi







# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Target" Store Laurent Lombard Commercial
Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:05:04 -0500



>I saw a great commercial on TV last night for, I think, Chairs,
>advertising chairs and the music was LAURENT LOMBARD from
>Happyland!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Target is nationwide (got 'em here in Georgia, across the street from
Wal-Mart), so I will look out for the commercial.  Good seeing you again, Jack!

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: (exotica) Luxuriamusic
Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:47:13 -0500


I'm just not listening to anymore=20
> because RealAudio,
> (at least on the computers I've tried it on, the T1 connected=20
> one here at
> work and my brothers cable connected  home computer) really=20
> does not work.
> I mention this because Is that the case with many of you?


Yes, it happens to me all the time, because we have a firewall.  It =
drives
me bonkers when all the site has is real audio.  Thats another reason I =
have
fallen in love with luxuriamusic. =20

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=
=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
[e-mail]


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:21:18 -0500


Mo wrote
 Especially decades after it was created
>when all questions of political statements have lost their meaning and
>only craft
>and mastership count.

Yeah, and it's tons o' fun, too. Mimi




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Art
Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:21:20 -0500


Re, Moritz and Hegel:
Dare I raise poor Blake's ghost again?
Why the hell not.
"Without contraries there is no progress."





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Napster, MP3 New Yorker Cartoon
Date: 30 Mar 2000 06:53:47 -0800


There's a cartoon in this week's issue of The New Yorker which I'll do my best to describe: A young man is getting an autograph from a musician with a guitar case at the stage door. The young man says to the musician: "I'm a big fan, I've downloaded all your stuff."

  Also, has anyone read the book High Fidelity by Nick Hornby? It's about a vintage vinyl shop in London and has been turned into a film with John Cusack (and trnasplanted to Chicago).

  Last bu t not least, can anyone tell me anything about John McLaughlin and the Mahavishnu Orchestra?

  Thanks as always!

   ~~Paul, Hepcat


Send FREE April Fool's Greetings to your friends!
http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/American_Greetings.rdct


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obit] David Gengenbach
Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:05:25 -0500


                         *David Gengenbach
    WINSTED, Conn. (AP) -- David Gengenbach, who oversaw the design
of some of Walt Disney World's most popular rides, died Monday of
complications from a heart transplant. He was 66.
    Hired in 1966 as a project manager and project engineer,
Gengenbach worked his way up to vice president of Walt Disney's WED
Enterprises.
    During his tenure he oversaw the Pirates of the Caribbean boat
conveyance system, directed the design and installation of Space
Mountain and worked on the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea ride. He
also worked on the design and implementation of the Mark III and
Mark IV monorail systems.
    Prior to working at Disney, Gengenbach worked as an engineer
with Tubular Aircraft and was a member of the Experimental Aircraft
Association.
    His influence on the Magic Kingdom is marked by an honorary
tombstone outside the Haunted Mansion ride at the theme park.
------
 BTW, Curtis Mayfield died on December 26, 1999 (age 57), not
more than a year ago as was recently mentioned.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster, MP3 New Yorker Cartoon
Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:48:23 -0500



>   Also, has anyone read the book High Fidelity by Nick Hornby? It's about
> a vintage vinyl shop in London and has been turned into a film with John
> Cusack (and trnasplanted to Chicago).

It's a great book; I have not seen the movie yet, but the fellow ho lent me
the book did and enjoyed the movie as well.

>   Last bu t not least, can anyone tell me anything about John McLaughlin
> and the Mahavishnu Orchestra?

McLaughlin formed this group after having played with Graham(e) Bond.  The
album of their Rock-Jazz blend that I enjoyed the most was "Birds of Fire",
but my brother's favorite was "Apocalypse", which was more orchestral in
nature.  Jerry Goodman's furious playing, Bill Cobham's drum pyrotechnics
all made for a fun time for me.  Mahavishnu was McLaughlin's spiritual name
when he followed the teachings of Sri Chinmoy.  He also made an album,
which I have never heard with fellow follower Devadip Carlos Santana, "Love
Devotion Surrender".

Lineup on Birds of Fire:

McLaughlin - Guitar
Rick Laird - Bass
Jan Hammer - Keyboards (If you find a copy of his album, "The First Seven
Days", it's great synthesizer fun and it was his favorite album)
Jerry Goodman - Violin

Check All Music http://www.allmusic.com for the lowdown and
http://members.aol.com/ilebaba/adeleke/discmaha.html for the discography
lowdown.

Should I check out Woody Allen's "Sweet and Lowdown"?  Just asking!

Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] David Gengenbach
Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:54:05 -0500



>         His influence on the Magic Kingdom is marked by an honorary
>tombstone outside the Haunted Mansion ride at the theme park.

...Mourners will be slowly moved through the chapel while tiny mechanized
dolls of various countries sing the familiar "We Love You, David".

Sorry.
Brian Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Barry Gray Supermarionation themes
Date: 30 Mar 2000 08:17:57 -0800


Just got a CDR of Barry Gray penned themes to every Gerry Anderson
Supermarionation show ever made - and then some. (Thunderbirds are GO!,
Supercar, etc.) At least I was told it was to every one... I don't have the
track list yet, either.

I have had not had too much time to listen - or do anything else for that
matter - but I gotta say, "Wowee!" Some of this stuff is just shit-hot!
Nifty theremin-y sounds and venture-esque rock-n-rolly grooovezzzz. There
are themes to GE live action shows too (Cool version of Space 1999 I hain't
never heard before)  Other parts are big-orchestra high-drama
gotta-save-the-puppet-world-from-sure-destruction kinda thing. Then for good
measure, some hug-a-butt suupah-funkay dance remixes with lots of
Thunderbird samples. There seems to be no end to the musical suprises on
this disk.  Most of the tracks are actual themes from the show, but I
suspect some are covers.  I'll know more when I get the tracklist.

Again, Wowee!

So who's heard this stuff, dug the T-birds, etc as a kid?  I used to watch
it every once in a while, but all of a sudden, I'm fascinated. I even found
some fan-sites...even the officiall Gerry Anderson website.  Neato!

Ron





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Zippy fixates on Yma
Date: 30 Mar 2000 11:25:41 -0500


http://www.sfgate.com/sf/zippy/4.gif



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) High Fidelity (was Napster, MP3 New Yorker Cartoon)
Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:49:17 -0500


The film was the crown jewel of the recent SXSW film festival. I passed
despite with the lures of Cusack and Stephen Frears. Two friends who
watched, trashed it. Local reviews mixed or fawning--the fawning one in the
newspaper that sponsors SXSW. Typical. For what it's worth, I enjoyed the
Nick Hornsby novel in mid-read but recall nothing about it now. Didn't the
novel come up here last spring?

Here's a capsule review from http://www.moviepundit.com/
"A music junkie (John Cusack) owns a hip old record store in Chicago while
musing to the audience about his romantic failures. The plot is a little
jumpy, but "High Fidelity" has its clever moments - such as the hijinks of
the two flunkies who work at the record store. Almost a must-see for big
music fans, especially followers of Bruce Springsteen. Directed by Stephen
=46rears, who made "The Grifters" with Cusack ten years ago."

A more intriguing music film is "Genghis Blues." This documentary depicts
blind bluesman Paul Pena's journey to the exotic land of Tuva near Outer
Mongolia, where he performs in a throat-singing competition. Fine film with
almost too much of the triumph-of-the-human-spirit thing for my tastes --
yanked back to reality by near catastrophes. See "Genghis" in a theatre
with a superb sound system.
Chatty Cathy




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new playlist
Date: 30 Mar 2000 08:45:31 -0800


As much fun as it is to rattle people's cages (yeah, I know ...), I wanted
to mention that a new playlist of streaming audio is available at
SwankRadio. The current selections are taken from the following vinyl
(typically three cuts from each album):

Leo Addeo - Paradise regained
Jan August - Accent!
Les Baxter - African Jazz
The 'Big' Sound Orchestra - Percussion Espanol
Don Cantelli and The All Stars - Potent Percussion
Martin Denny - Exotica
Esquivel - Strings Aflame
Georgia Gibbs - Music and Memories
Henry Jerome - Brazen Brass
Abbe Lane - Be Mine Tonight
Enoch Light - Provocative Percussion Vol. III
Julie London - The Best of Julie
Arthur Lyman - Taboo
Henry Mancini - Mr. Lucky Goes Latin
Robert Maxwell - Hi-Fi Harp
Perez Prado - Havana, 3 a.m.
Della Reese - Della by Starlight
Yma Sumac - Legent of the Sun Virgin
Walter Wanderley - Rain Forest

The careful reader will note that I bear no ill will or bias against Walter
Wanderley...(snicker).

Erik
www.swankradio.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: The Wild Eye
Date: 29 Mar 2000 19:49:50 +0200


Typical Italian soundtrack, with lots of haunting melodies and etheral
wordless vocals, not unlike Morricone. Not bad at all... but i didn't
really went "wooooow over it... maybe i should listen to it again!

        Johan

        -----





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) new playlist
Date: 30 Mar 2000 12:04:32 -0500


Looking at the Swank Radio site, I recall a phrase of my youth.  WABC -
AM(*ding*) radio in New York boasted that it was in stereo.  Anyone on the
list ever hear their AM in Stereo?


Brian                                   Phillips




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 30 Mar 2000 09:19:09 -0800


Paul <[e-mail]> wrote in part:

> has the aggregate talent of those 95,000 acts produced even ONE
> act that has gone on to even significant regional success, much
> less national ... no it hasn't.

Interesting annecdote - one of the guys that I work with (Mike Cressey) has
some of his music up on mp3.com. He has a linked page, etc. From time to
time he has participated in the "auction" that allows artists to bid on
advertizing themselves on the Top 10 list (or whatever) for some particular
genre. He was curious if this would help sales of his CDs. His experience
was that it did not; he also has not sold much at all via mp3.com (of
course, the quality of his music will impact this).

I am curious how many real sales are occuring through mp3.com.

Erik
www.swankradio.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: A complete Venture
Date: 30 Mar 2000 10:19:36 PST



>
>A really nice version, actually.
>
>Let's see. . . _Walk Don't Run_ . . . looks like 3 originals, the
>rest covers, ranging from "Sleep Walk" and "Night Train" to "Tara's
>Theme," and some more obscure ones I don't know.

that's the one with the truly rocking version of the pink panther theme
isn't it? that usually goes down really well when i dj, even on surprisingly
'dance' oriented floors. love the hammond break.
rob
temporarily separated from his records. hoping it doesn't end in tears

______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Get Me Rodd Keith!!
Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:47:27 -0500


Cool news from the American Song/Poem Music Archives site
( http://aspma.com ) :
-Lou
[e-mail]
PS I hope someone will be taping this show for possible release!
-----
Get Me Rodd Keith!!

In what is unquestionably the world's first song-poem musical, San Francisco's Misery/Love Company will be presenting Get Me Rodd Keith!!: A Journey Into The Song-Poem Industry Of The 1970s. More than two years in development (and with some input from the AS/PMA), Josh Pollock's original musical will be at the Exit Theatre, 156 Eddy St., SanáFrancisco. From M/LC's press release:

A brand-new hallucinoid, fever-dream musical concerning unsung true-life genius Rodd Keith and the "send-us-lyrics-(and lots of money)-and-we'll-send-you-back-a-hit-song" industry of the early 70's. As a reluctant "song-poem" composer, Keith produced one of the most bizarre, wonderful and unheard bodies of work in the history of pop music while working a scam he abhored. Can he break out, or will they keep pulling him back in? A cast of 12 actors, dancers and musicians explores a desperate world of has-beens, never-wases, and the twisted, horrible, beautiful, and hysterical "hit songs" they cranked out for a buck. These songs must be heard to be believed!

Audience members who bring their own lyrics will get $4 off and the chance to have their song written and performed by the cast on the spot! A brand new song every night!!

Get Me Rodd Keith!! will run Friday and Saturday nights at 8ápm, with an additional show on Monday, May 15, from April 21 to Mayá27. Tickets are $14, $12 for students, and, as mentioned in the press release, $4 off if you show up with a song lyric already written. For further information or to make reservations, call 415-566-2578.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A complete Venture
Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:53:38 -0500


http://www.geocities.com/~sandcastle/venture.htm

I've been browsing the discographies at the above site, and in answer to
Nat's original question... yes, I think collecting all The Ventures'
records would indeed leave you broke AND crazy.

Some of the later ones certainly sound intriguing... like the NASA 25th
Anniversary Commemorative Album.

I know I've recommended this one before, but it's pretty great. "Live In
Japan '65" -- a CD on EMI from 1995. I don't know if it's in current
release. Portions may appear on some 60s LPs, but I don't know which ones.
It's a document of a show in Tokyo, March 6, 1965, and demonstrates that
while they made much use of studio musicians, they sure didn't need them.
The other eye opener is that while they maintained their trademark
precision in a live show, they also unleashed the raw power of a punk band.
Yikes!

Exotica related tunes on the program include:

Perfidia
Out Of Limits
Besame Mucho Twist
Slaughter On Tenth Avenue
The Lonely Bull
Telstar
The Pink Panther Theme
Bumble Bee Twist
both versions of Walk Don't Run
and a 9-minute-plus burn-down-the-house Caravan

Another other cool thing about the recording is that you can almost *hear*
the audience's collective mind being blown outta their skulls through the
course of the show.

I'll agree with what the others said about the early stuff having certain
charms (I liked Mo's connection of chamber music) and the later stuff
having other charms.

The early stuff has a sort of pristine, clean and plaintive quality that's
very appealing.

The later stuff has all sorts of interesting mutations happening.

Incidently, there are some later (70s era) albums where they have admitted
only serving as producers, with studio musicians doing the actual playing.
But that doesn't necessarily mean you have to pass them by.

A couple more sites...

The official site:
http://www.theventures.com/

Japanese fan club:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~NJ4H-SED/ventures.htm


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ
Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:55:27 EST



In a message dated 3/29/0 11:37:34 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>B.J. Between this thread and that wacky "drugs" post I'm starting to become
suspicious that you're on the list as ringer for the moral majority or
something!!!

This list has gotten--in general--more uptight since her pronouncements have
hit it on nearly every subject brought up. I have told a few long-timers on
this list how uncomfortable the dogmatic finality of her pronouncements make
me.  We all know there are a fair number of strong egoes in the house, but I
think we all have been in general agreement not to be overbearing about it
and to try to tolerate our differences with a modicum of finesse. The corner
seems to have been turned lately and I am really disappointed. Mr. Nibble has
yet to weigh in on this one so I suspect he is a proponent of free speech and
willing to let the chips fall where they may.  In over three years here--a
good and productive three years--I haven't seen anything close to this...Jim
Botticelli


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) MAJOR find in SF Bay Area
Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:58:33 EST



In a message dated 3/30/0 4:24:33 AM,
[e-mail] wrote:

>Why do so many Americans start their sentences with 'so'. Is it from
>watching too much TV? :-)

Charlie, its Masterpiece Theatre...We can't he'p it, ya know?


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) BJ/nibble
Date: 30 Mar 2000 19:37:35 +0000


I like both equally, but in the evening, after a couple of pints of lager,
the mind wanders and, you know, you start thinking which you prefer.

I'd certainly prefer a BJ over a nibble.

In seriousness, I've enjoyed the recent fire on the list. I certainly
laughed my head off over the whole computer backup argument, very amusing
and even worth saving and forwarding to colleagues.


More more more.

Whatever happened to the recent rant about conspiracy theories? I can't
even remember who brought that one up but it freaked me out.




On an exotica note, I got a copy of Sergio Mendes' Beat of Brazil LP last
night. Anybody know this one and have any comment. It has Jobim's name on
it and is very bossa but not really up my alley yet. Maybe my tastes will
change.


Charlie




+-------------------------------------------------------------+
| This message may contain confidential and/or privileged     |
| information.  If you are not the addressee or authorized to |
| receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,     |
| disclose or take any action based on this message or any    |
| information herein.  If you have received this message in   |
| error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail |
| and delete this message.  Thank you for your cooperation.   |
+-------------------------------------------------------------+





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck
Date: 30 Mar 2000 11:38:39 -0800 (PST)


They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of
Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by
the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955.  Isn't this the song
that the HAL 9000 sang?

Spoooooooky.

Peter

(PS: Thanks Keith!)

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ
Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:29:35 -0800 (PST)


Is BJ a her? I went to the person's "about me" site
some time back and the graphical aspect posted there
was male (granted, my inspection was not thorough). In
any event, I'm sure this person's opinions (or any
other's), whatever they may be, can do no one any real
harm. Why appeal to a Central Scrutinizer?

--- [e-mail] wrote:

> This list has gotten--in general--more uptight since
> her pronouncements have
> hit it on nearly every subject brought up. ......

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Erik Hoel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ
Date: 30 Mar 2000 13:46:03 -0800


Ben Waugh <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Is BJ a her? I went to the person's "about me" site
> some time back and the graphical aspect posted there
> was male (granted, my inspection was not thorough). In
> any event, I'm sure this person's opinions (or any
> other's), whatever they may be, can do no one any real
> harm. Why appeal to a Central Scrutinizer?

Lest she bust on me for not cleaning out my mailbox, here's what she said on
1/13:

> B.J. (Barbara J.) Major [[e-mail]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 11:29 AM
> To: Exotica mailing list
> Subject: (exotica) An introduction and a discography announcement!

> Hello Exotica Mailing List,

> Please allow me to introduce myself--my name is B.J. Major and that is
> what I like to be referred to as (real name appears in email address only
> for gender identification purposes!)  I am pleased to be on this list
> because I've been directed here by someone who says that I will be among
> friends.  I hope he is correct!

> During the Christmas holiday, I put a Walter Wanderley Pictorial
> Discography online at my website (URL below).

... chop ...

Actually, at the time I thought there was something peculiar about this
posting and I never deleted it.

Erik
www.swankradio.com




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Target" Store Laurent Lombard Commercial
Date: 30 Mar 2000 16:55:49 -0500


>Target is nationwide (got 'em here in Georgia, across the street from
>Wal-Mart), so I will look out for the commercial.  Good seeing you again,
Jack!

Yeah, that Howl routine was a Hoot too.

Is Jack back?


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Some kindly advice for BJ
Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:02:25 -0800 (PST)


Yikes. Sorry (esp. BJ, to whom, moreover, I sheepishly
apologize for those unseemly remarks about my
ambiguous response to the discipline I received from
my nun).





> Lest she bust on me for not cleaning out my mailbox,
> here's what she said on
> 1/13:


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck
Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:19:06 -0800



>
> They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of
> Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by
> the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955.  Isn't this the song
> that the HAL 9000 sang?
>
Yesss it izzz....  WOW!  I wonder if thatb's a coinkidinky or if it was a
VERY obscure reference by someone who helped make the film.

Ron "Open the pod-bay doors" Grandia



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: (exotica) Some kindly advice ...really...
Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:20:57 -0800




Brian and all - just for fun, an observation or two...

>>I may not be understanding this correctly but unless your machine is
operating as a web server, I cannot see how your personal files could be at
risk of being probed. As I understand it, running NT server using NTFS on
all or a partition of your disk open to the web provides you with all the
protection you need from the outside.  <<

This is so not-true. I work right across the street from
Netcom/Mindspring/Earthlink, and a buddy of mine is one of them long-haired
network propeller-heads.  His stories could stand one's hair on end as to
how hackers gain access and do nasty things via the net - to all flavors of
computer.  The only safe computer it seems is one that is unplugged and
sitting in the middle of a room. If someone wants in - they can get in.
Especially of you run something like naptser. True, 95/98 is a wide-open
door, while NT is more like an unlocked but sticky bathroom window.

That being said, you gotta have someone who has a serious  interest in what
you are doing or have a big hard-on to make your life miserable. Otherwise,
the big threat is teenagers with - you guessed it - too much time on their
hands. It's the modern equivalent of a burning bag of dogshit on your porch.

It's also true the time is either coming or it has just arrived, when there
will be people who take advantage of your credit-card information that is
sitting on you computer right now if you have ever ordered anything online.
Bear in mind this takes more effort than getting a job at a restaurant and
pocketing carbons of cardslips.  When was the last time you got bitten by
that scam?

My recommendation:  leave it all out there for anyone to see.  Anyone who
takes the time to
root through my system will get what they deserve... a bad case of boredom.
As for anyone with destructive tendancies, that's where backups come in.
Fire?  Well,  the computer will be the least of my worries. If frequent NSA
encrypted backups stored in an off-site vault makes you sleep better, that's
fine too.  Just don't ever hand your credit card to anyone at Macy's either.

Boy, we have strayed far afield these days. It's always interesting though.
This group has good things to say,  but can we get back to rekkids?

Love on y'all.

Ron "stowing thrones in grass houses" Grandia




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck
Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:36:00 -0800 (PST)


We all know this but its just too much fun not to say HAL got his name because the
letter H comes before I and A comes before B and L comes before M.

The film also referenced HAL as originating from Urbana ILLinois at that time a
center for computer research

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


--- Ron Grandia <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> > They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of
> > Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by
> > the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955.  Isn't this the song
> > that the HAL 9000 sang?
> >
> Yesss it izzz....  WOW!  I wonder if thatb's a coinkidinky or if it was a
> VERY obscure reference by someone who helped make the film.


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck
Date: 30 Mar 2000 17:52:43 EST


<< They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of
 Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by
 the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955.  Isn't this the song
 that the HAL 9000 sang? >>

That track comes from a very interesting and incredible LP on Decca called
Music For Mathematics.  It's great!




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Mr. Fodder" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) turntable lab / dustygroove / little marcy +
Date: 30 Mar 2000 14:53:43 -0800


hello all,

I thought I would post some recent digs:

http://www.turntablelab.com/index1.html
Check out the FUNK IN THE TRUNK section.  Just picked up a few records there
including a 12" of Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" and two excellent comps
on vinyl called "Status Breaks" (volumes 1 and 2).  They have some pretty
cool comps on vinyl with some rare grooves (funk, soul, rock, etc...).  The
"Status Breaks" LP's are a lot like the "Ultimate Breaks and Beats" series
(which they also have) for those of you who dig the UBB series.
But then again... dustygroove.com has the UBB series too (and i really dig
dusty groove).  Lots of Serge Gainsbourg on dustygroove for my fill (and
much cheaper than trying to buy French imports at places like Borders...
total cost nightmare).

I also just picked up Dan Castellaneta's (the voice of Homer Simpson) cd
project "Two Lips - The Lost Album".  Nothing like his simpson voice.
Styled as a lost Beatles CD.  Rotating a lot in the CD player of late.


Also on the Little Marcy thread.....

This album has no puppets (just annoying wonderful kids),
But anyone else have a copy of,
"Aunt Bertha presents.. Little Lady Linda"?
Just imagine 2-8 years old singing high pitch wails in the name of the lord
with Aunt Bertha introducing!  It's nutty.

Or what about the "I'm a Mormon" record by Janeen Brady?  Oh, the title song
is worth the dollar you'll spend!

Last, but not least,
"His Kids - It's Contagious"
a bunch of high school kids who sing off beat and off key.  Am I the only
one who has this album?  C'mon fellow thrift store diggers.. have you seen
this one too?

see ya,

Otis

[e-mail]
www.thebranflakes.com






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail] (B.R. Rolya)
Subject: (exotica) Luxuriamusic /  Barry Gray Supermarionation
Date: 30 Mar 2000 18:02:58 -0500 (EST)


>So have most of you been over to Luxuramusic.com ?
<snip>
>I've been hearing all sorts of new stuff, or new to me,

I really, really enjoy Luxuria as well, but find that the shows can be a
bit repetitive.  Just about every time I've tuned in I've heard "The Look
of Love" (and this is slowly driving me insane).

Unlike the others who've posted, I have no problems with Real Audio.  Then
again, we've got it on a computer that isn't used all the time (it's hooked
up to the stereo so that the whole office can listen to whatever station
we're checking out) so maybe the lack of other activity on the computer
accounts for the good quality of Real Audio.

******

I unfortunately missed Thunderbirds et al the first time around but went
mad over them a few years ago.  Friends from the UK even sent a
Thunderbirds toothbrush and for a while I was collecting Japanese candy
that came with tiny, plastic Thunderbird models.  I know that Silva Screen
put out some of the soundtracks (but I don't have them in front of me so I
can't give more info).  These soundtracks are great and even include the
Cliff Richard/lounge crooner song.

I've been told that the Thunderbirds videos are now on sale for
outrageously low prices at former porn emporiums here in Manhattan because
shop keepers will take in anything in order to fulfill the quota of
non-porn videos mandated by our beloved mayor.

What's the official Gerry Anderson website?

(now I can't get the Supercar theme out of my head...)


- BR
Triage
212-989-4545
800-966-3516
[e-mail]
www.triagemusic.com




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cartoons and Drugs
Date: 30 Mar 2000 15:10:52 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 12:15:30 +0200
>From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Art

I'm afraid I don't know much about philosophers, but I do
know about artists.

>Dont tell me, the artists who made "Los Tres Caballeros"
>didn't make the aquaintance of any psychedelic drugs while
>travelling South America in 1941 to make scetches for the
>film. Because I wouldn't believe it.

Do you mean the Disney film? I can answer that because I know several
people who worked on it and went on the South American tour with Walt.
Those guys were as midwestern and conservative as you can imagine.
At a screening of "Fantasia" someone once asked Art Babbitt, the
animator who did the Mushroom Dance, if they took drugs when they
made Fantasia. He said, "We sure did... Ex Lax and Pepto Bismol...
and lots of black coffee."

Of all of the art forms, animation is the most labor intensive.
The guys who worked at Disney and Warners and MGM making the
cartoons we think of as being "surreal and drug induced" today
made them with long man hours and careful design, not flashes
of inspiration from psychedelic drugs.

I've worked in animation for almost twenty years now, and I've
seen all kinds of drug and alcohol use. Invariably, the guy
who creates incredible stuff is the one who don't take drugs.
The one who does usually is either the "player type" who jumps
from job to job never producing much, or at the other end of the
extreme, the good artist who sinks into depression and becomes
incapacitated by it. I would say that among artists, depression
and a feeling of being different than other people is the real
common denominator in their makeup, not drug use.

The guys who are driven to sit at their desks until late at night
creating fourth dimensional ideas are doing it with their brain,
not chemicals.

See ya
Steve


      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Boots
Date: 30 Mar 2000 20:32:03 -0500


Boots Randolph that is. A couple of nice ones here...

"SAX*SATIONAL!"
Monument SLP18079
[formerly "Boots Randolph Plays 12 Monstrous Sax Hits"]
A somewhat gritty set of rock 'n' roll / R&B flavored instros. Almost any
of them would fit well with a late-50s to mid-60s B-movie scene set in a
low-rent cocktail lounge. Includes "Walkin' With Mr. Lee", "Tequila",
"Night Train" and more in that vein. Seems to be collected from various
sessions. Mostly small combo -- Boots with guitar, bass, drums, organ.

"BOOTS WITH BRASS"
Monument SLP18147
Groovy 1970 Now Sound LA studio cat funk (to abuse a phrase). All
instrumental, and check the songs:
C.C. Rider
The Letter
Fire And Rain
Via Tirado
We've Only Just Begun
Light My Fire
Spinning Wheel
Hi Heel Sneakers
I'll Be There
(They Long To Be) Close To You
25 Or 6 To 4
Take A Letter Maria

This is not your father's Yakety Sax.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) HAL 2000
Date: 31 Mar 2000 10:45:30 +1000


>They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of
>Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by
>the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955.  Isn't this the song
>that the HAL 9000 sang?

Peter,

Right tune, but not the same recording.  It was created in the film by the
guy speaking HAL's part, but Kubrick surely must have owned that record and
was as hair-hackled as you are, so he re-created it!  The correllation is
too strong to be coincidental.

One of my all-time favorite electronic recordings.

Caio!

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) gotta split
Date: 30 Mar 2000 15:33:53 -0500


I ned to unsubscribe for a short while, like a week or two.  Write =
offlist
if you need to...see ya soon=09

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=
=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4
surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Barry Gray Supermarionation themes
Date: 30 Mar 2000 22:46:43 -0500


>So who's heard this stuff, dug the T-birds, etc as a kid?  I used to watch
>it every once in a while, but all of a sudden, I'm fascinated. I even found
>some fan-sites...even the officiall Gerry Anderson website.  Neato!

Watch for the 1966 feature film, "Thunderbirds Are Go". That's the one with
the puppet versions of Cliff Richards & The Shadows. They do an outer space
musical number in a dream sequence.

There's a second feature called, I think, "Thunderbird 6". But I don't
recall that one being as much fun.


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Luxuriamusic
Date: 30 Mar 2000 22:51:01 -0500


They now have their streaming MP3 line working. I've had good results
receiving with FreeAmp:

http://www.freeamp.org/



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Napster.com
Date: 30 Mar 2000 23:52:32 -0800


> genre. He was curious if this would help sales of his CDs. His experience
> was that it did not; he also has not sold much at all via mp3.com (of
> course, the quality of his music will impact this).
> I am curious how many real sales are occuring through mp3.com.

I have some statistics from them at the office.  Its virtually
nothing relative to the number of artists and titles offered there.
The figure was absurdly small and basically amounted to the only
people buying bands' finished cd's there, could at best be
"friends & immediate family".

MP3 makes most all the money they do bring in from advertising
revenue.

Paul Moshay



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Chicago tiki art show
Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:06:00 -0800


Chicago tiki art show

WHAT: exotica 2000
WHEN: april 22, 2000 7 p.m. -  10 p.m. post party to follow.
WHERE: right-on futon on milwaukee ave. and division.

featuring local
tiki/exotica artists with some nationally known artists as well.

for more info write Dave at
[e-mail]



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Live Exotica in SF
Date: 30 Mar 2000 00:22:13 -0800


Ape
the ONLY live band I know of that does a full set of Exotica complete with
bird calls and Tiki carving onstage!!!
is returning to the Bamboo Hut on the FIRST THURSDAY of every month.
The gig will be from 9pm till midnight with a small cover at the door and
there will be some sort of a drink special.
Crazy AL will be at some select shows like May 4th doing vocals and Tiki
carving

The dates are: 4/6, 5/4, 6/1, 7/6, 8/3, etc.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This mailing list is brought to you by Slick.ORG at http://www.slick.org
to remove yourself from the list, send e-mail to [e-mail]
and include the words "unsubscribe tikievents" in the message (not in the
subject).  For web-based help, go to:

http://www.slick.org/cgi-bin/majordomo

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) remembering korla pandit
Date: 31 Mar 2000 03:38:57 -0500


a friend of mine is looking for info on this book -

> "Remembering Korla Pandit" - a compilation about the artist - has been issued
>by Dejavu. I'd like to add the title in the book's discography. I searched
>on the
>web for the catalogue number but to no avail.

If anyone has info on this, please reply to me offlist

thanks
br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Barry Gray Supermarionation themes
Date: 31 Mar 2000 03:50:48 -0500


>Just got a CDR of Barry Gray penned themes to every Gerry Anderson
>Supermarionation show ever made - and then some. (Thunderbirds are GO!,
>Supercar, etc.) At least I was told it was to every one...

I have that too; it might not be every one, but it's certainly close to 'em all

>So who's heard this stuff, dug the T-birds, etc as a kid?  I used to watch
>it every once in a while, but all of a sudden, I'm fascinated.

I watched them religiously as a kid - - from 'Supercar' (1962) to
'Thunderbirds' (1966); after that I stopped watching 'childrens
television', so I missed the later shows where the puppets got more and
more Aryan with each new series. I have the book "The Complete Gerry
Anderson Episode Guide", which I bought in London a dozen years ago. The
music on these shows is amazing as well as timeless, and the series
themselves seem to have held up quite well from what I've seen (boots of
most of them exist quite readily). EXotica listees would be delighted by
the music of "Fireball XL5"- lots of vintage space age sounds with heavy
use of Clavioline. "Super"!

br cleve


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) High Fidelity
Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:31:41 +0100


Someone lent me the book,  'reminded me of you'.  I hated the sad fucker and
found the book disappointing,  its a bit like a tarantino relationship movie
would be like.  Very Hate/Bradley whatever that comic was.  Not enough about
the music.  The film has BROOCE on the soundtrack?  Thats funny as I'm sure
it would have been on the Hate list of the characters in the book.

And its hardly a hip record shop,  its a poxy dump in a poxy part of London.


And can we leave of bitching about BJ?  I don't agree with many things I
read on the list,  and I know her tone can be a bit off,  but theres been
some interesting stuff bouncing off the back of her posts,  and there is no
need to be personal.


El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/


  Also, has anyone read the book High Fidelity by Nick Hornby? It's about a
vintage vinyl shop in London and has been turned into a film with John
Cusack (and transplanted to Chicago).
   ~~Paul, Hepcat

BRUCE


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) scratch that
Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:37:54 +0100


mimi said

<snip> I LOVE "The Ventures" and almost exploded when I
found it for a buck at a thrift a few months ago. Grimy oft-played mono
wax, but for my ears, it suits the music.
<snip>
The first time I heard Julie London's 'Cry me river' it was on a 7 that had
a mark where a cigarette had been stubbed out on it.  Just listening to it
through that crackling was to go to a dim, smoky basement bar. Beautiful.  A
total experience.  When it was re-released in the 80's I could just never
recapture that feeling on clean virgin vinyl.

El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) RE: Gainsbourg's  B-day
Date: 31 Mar 2000 07:02:56 -0500 (EST)



We will be celebrating Mr.Gainsbourg's (ol'bug eyes) B-day here in Boston on Sunday at our 60's
eurotica night "Pandora's Box" (The Lava Bar, 575 Comm. ave, Boston MA) We will be playing many of
his vids (1958-67) on the screens & spinning a wide range of 60's french tunes (Pussy Cat,France
Gall,Anna Karina,BB,Jacqueline Taieb,Monty,Nino Ferrer,...etc) There will be a special guest
performance by Astroslut at 11pm as well. Check out our updated Pandora website
http://www.project3.com/pandora.htm
       Ciao,
       Vinny






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Deixa Issa Pra La
Date: 31 Mar 2000 07:14:58 EST


They are playing a song called "Deixa Issa Pra La" on rotation at
LuxuriaMusic.  Has anyone heard of this song and know where it is available?

Some sketchy information indicates it may be on some German Comp called:
Boss of the Bossa Nova (???) on  Motor Collector (???) label.

Any info on this song and the person/group who plays it would be appreciated.

TB



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Holy Bat-Venture
Date: 31 Mar 2000 08:06:50 -0500 (EST)



 I like the Ventures cover of the 60's Batman theme on the Tv action theme song album they did...I
recently purchased a great used copy of the Batman "exclusive television sountrack album". Wow!
some fab Adam West,Burt Ward,Frank Gorshin,Burgess Meredith samples on this...
   -Vinny





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) High Fidelity
Date: 31 Mar 2000 08:02:56 -0500


I greatly enjoyed the book 'High Fidelity' - what other successful
novels have come even close to capturing at least some of the odd habits
of some of us who collect records?

 I haven't seen the movie yet, but I want to just so I can hear the line
"Did I listen to pop music because I was miserable, or was I miserable
because I listened to pop music?" ....especially on the big screen in a
theatre full of mainstream America who only listen to pop music.  If we
can search the thrift bins and record shows looking for some obscure
record that has only one killer 'must have' track on it, surely we must
make efforts to see the movie just for that one line.

Full 'thumbs up' Washington Post review is here.....
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/entertainment/movies/reviews/highfidelityhowe.htm



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: FW: (exotica) Some kindly record advice ...really...
Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:18:58 -0500


Okay Ron, back to records.......

If you ever run across "Jon Hall Brings Music From Hawaii" for a buck, get =
it.=20

The cover has Mr. Hall looking longingly into a gals eyes while a strange =
elephant mask sits next to him, and two "natives" look down on the =
scenario from a walkway above the two romancers........

I can imagine a smoky club where a glittery poster-card propped next to =
the door reads: "For One Week Only: Jon Hall Brings Music From Hawaii."  =
The entire record is one huge "night club" act complete with a noisy crowd =
who hoots and claps after each performance (obviously dubbed into the mix =
from another source - I've got another "Hula Party" record that does the =
same thing - weird).  And whatta performance!  This is bargain basement =
crooning mixed in with Denny-esque musical numbers where the only =
connection to the mighty sounds of Denny are poorly attempted "caw caw =
caws" and bongo solos.

Not a *great* record by any means, but a few tracks are very enjoyable, =
and the entire recording will have you smiling and marveling at the =
ridiculous sounds brought to you by some guy who wants to make it sound =
like you're visiting in Hawaii.

- Nate




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Good Friday
Date: 31 Mar 2000 06:24:17 -0800 (PST)


This just came my way. Not overly amusing, but thought
it might fit in with intoxicants are good/bad
dialectic (sprung from the religious records
topic)that's been going on and on:

The Beer Prayer

Our lager,
Which art in barrels,
Hallowed be thy drink,
Thou will be drunk,
At home as Thou art in tavern.
Give us this day our foamy head,
And forgive us our spillages,
As we forgive those who spill against us,
and lead us not to incarceration,
But deliver us from hangovers,
For thine is the beer,
The bitter and the lager,
Forever and ever,
Barmen

And for more on the mysterious sacraments of lager
(and "cowboy fried" beans), check out Magnus Mills's
new novel All Quiet on the Orient Express.

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jun'gala
Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:28:28 -0500 (EST)



I just picked up this album by Marty Wilson, Jun'gala. It's a nice disk
and I was wondering if anyone had any info about ol' Marty. Can't
seem to find much on the web

- bruce


++++++++++++++++++++

Lenkei Design
   Graphic Design

www.lenkeidesign.com

++++++++++++++++++++



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) remembering korla pandit
Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:53:31 -0500


"Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> a friend of mine is looking for info on this book -
> "Remembering Korla Pandit" - a compilation about the artist - has been issued
>by Dejavu.
>If anyone has info on this, please reply to me offlist
>thanks
>br cleve


There's a page with info on the Dejavu comp at:
http://www.korlapandit.com/collectibles.htm

"REMEMBERING KORLA PANDIT" -
HEAR KORLA PANDIT AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME!

For the VERY FIRST TIME ANYWHERE, this beautiful collection of some of Korla's finest Musical Gems can be yours: from the opening and closing of a typical Pandit Television presentation to Vintage Classics such as "Turkish Dance", "Procession of the Grand Moghul", "Miserlou", "Aicha's Dance", "The Hypnotist", "Song of India", "Magnetic Theme", "Trance Dance", and of course "Remember", plus "The Black Orpheus Theme" from "Carnival", "Somewhere My Love", "Spanish Eyes", "No Love Is Lost", "The Rose of Descanso", "English Music Hall Theme", "Yours Is My Heart Alone", "French Trio Theatre Theme", "Danny Boy", and Korla's classic version of rock's "Spinning Wheel"! 19 cuts in all !!

"REMEMBERING KORLA PANDIT" is available to you NOW from Dejavu Record Company, 223 W. Alameda Ave., Ste 101, Burbank, California 91502. The ULTIMATE Korla Pandit signature songs, "favorites of Yours and Mine, played on the Heartstrings of Time!" Price of each CD is $16.95, plus $3.50 Postage & Handling. Please add 8.25% sales tax if a resident of California. Checks, money orders, and U.S. Money Orders only please. Also available from your favorite CD source.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Lily Simha Hood, Stu Allen
Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:56:45 -0500


                          *Lily Simha Hood
    NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- French Quarter pianist and chanteuse Lily
Simha Hood, whose fans included Tennessee Williams, died March 24
of kidney failure.
    She was cagey about revealing her age, and her husband asked
that the secret remain with her death.
    Her musical career began on a whim. After dinner one night in
1976, the Hoods and a friend stopped at Lafitte's Blacksmith Shop,
a Bourbon Street bar across from their house. Mrs. Hood played a
few tunes on the piano for her friend and was hired on the spot,
even though she wasn't looking for a job.
    Soon, ``Miss Lily'' had a crowd of regulars including Tennessee
Williams, who would bring in a songbook for her to sing from.
    Mrs. Hood never formally studied the piano and never learned to
read music. She was self-taught and learned by listening. She
performed at Lafitte's for 16 years, but health problems ended her
career about seven years ago.
-----
COMEDIAN STU ALLEN, 73; KNEW HOW TO WORK CROWD
By Tom McCann
Chicago Tribune Staff Writer
March 30, 2000
During the flashy heyday of Chicago's nightclub circuit, comedian Stu
Allen was a master at working the crowd, whether it was one of his many
packed houses or--the true test of a funnyman--the occasional empty
room.
"It's truly fun . . . to watch an old pro of a comedian walk out into a
big room with seats for several hundred, find only three tables of
patrons at ringside, and go to work to churn up the laughs," wrote
Tribune critic Will Leonard after catching one of his shows in 1975.
"Stu Allen was absolutely brilliant. Before long, the camaraderie was as
high as an elephant's eye, and the friendly warmth in the room was
infectious."
Mr. Allen, 73, whose real name was Sanford Tabak, died of heart failure
on Monday, March 27, in Holy Family Medical Center in Des Plaines.
During a Chicago stand-up career that lasted more than 50 years, Mr.
Allen of Palatine performed regularly in the '50s and '60s at venues
like the Playboy Club and the plush showroom of Mr. Kelly's on Rush
Street, legendary for its stage acts.
In the 1970s, he partnered with fellow comedian Sonny Mars to roast
Chicago celebrities like Mayor Richard J. Daley, Mike Ditka and Walter
Payton as well as comic icons Bob Hope and Milton Berle.
"But I always thought my dad was much funnier than those guys," said his
daughter, Stephanie. "And he never stopped being funny. He even had the
nurses in the hospital cracking up. His act was a bit like Don Rickles,
but more kindhearted."
With cigarette in hand, a ring on his pinkie and a classy tux, Mr. Allen
took his Vegas-style act to theaters and cruise ships, even strip
clubs--any place that needed him to warm up the crowd. But originally he
wanted to be a musician and an actor.
Born in Cleveland, Mr. Allen grew up idolizing band leader Glenn Miller,
and he quickly learned how to play the drums. After attempts to launch a
music career stalled, he decided to pursue acting and traveled to
Hollywood to meet a producer friend of his father.
"When my dad got there, they really liked him," his daughter said. "But
they told him they just signed another `Hungarian-Jewish kid' that week
that looked just like him. It turned out to be Tony Curtis, the guy who
took dad's acting career."
Mr. Allen continuously thought up events to raise money for charity. For
many years, he performed Christmas shows for orphans, canvassing the
city's toy stores for donations and having his family help wrap the
presents.
Other survivors include a son, Peter; a brother, Allen; and a grandson.




# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chicago tiki art show
Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:43:24 -0600




Otto wrote:
>
> Chicago tiki art show
>
> WHAT: exotica 2000
> WHEN: april 22, 2000 7 p.m. -  10 p.m. post party to follow.
> WHERE: right-on futon on milwaukee ave. and division.
>
> featuring local
> tiki/exotica artists with some nationally known artists as well.
>

Wow.  And in my favorite futon store, no less.  :)
It's high time we had some exotica activities in Chicago.

I'll have to bring my camera and report on the
proceedings!


--

Kerry


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) hot butter and pampers
Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:03:30 EST


has anyone seen the new ad for Pamper's Baby Wipes? They use Hot Butter's
Popcorn in it.

:)
Johanna


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) hot butter and pampers
Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:18:09 -0500


Whew!  For a minute there I thought we'd get REEAAALLLLLLL personal!!!






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) remembering korla pandit
Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:52:41 EST


In a message dated 03/31/00 9:54:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< "REMEMBERING KORLA PANDIT" is available to you NOW from Dejavu Record
Company, 223 W. Alameda Ave., Ste 101, Burbank, California 91502. The
ULTIMATE Korla Pandit signature songs, "favorites of Yours and Mine, played
on the Heartstrings of Time!" Price of each CD is $16.95, plus $3.50 Postage
& Handling. Please add 8.25% sales tax if a resident of California. Checks,
money orders, and U.S. Money Orders only please. Also available from your
favorite CD source.
  >>

i don't have any korla on CD, would this be a good comp?  anyone got it?


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "jonathan richardson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Chicago tiki art show
Date: 31 Mar 2000 09:22:37 PST



>
>Otto wrote:
> >
> > Chicago tiki art show
> >
> > WHAT: exotica 2000
> > WHEN: april 22, 2000 7 p.m. -  10 p.m. post party to follow.
> > WHERE: right-on futon on milwaukee ave. and division.
> >
> > featuring local
> > tiki/exotica artists with some nationally known artists as well.
> >


Im thinking about driving up from Bloomington IN to see this. Any Chicago
area listees out there willing to hook up and maybe seeing some of Chicago's
exotic locales (no stripper clubs please, unless of course if there is a
tiki theme to the place) Im west coast transplant new to the midwest and
need help finding where the happening spots are.

any info would help, off list if need be....

on with the show

-jonny yuma
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Cartoons and Drugs
Date: 31 Mar 2000 17:44:04 +0100


"Stephen W. Worth" wrote:
>

> Of all of the art forms, animation is the most labor intensive.
> The guys who worked at Disney and Warners and MGM making the
> cartoons we think of as being "surreal and drug induced" today
> made them with long man hours and careful design, not flashes
> of inspiration from psychedelic drugs.

But was their work influenced by the drug taking of others? So books,
art, films, music etc that were made by drug users influenced the work
of non-drug users? I suppose ultimately it's a chicken-and-egg
situation, on whether the ideas for surreal images came from the effects
of drugs on the imagination, or whether surreal images made by non-drug
users fitted with the drug takers' ideas of what getting high should be
like and so became associated with psychedelia.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Led Zeppelin & Exotica
Date: 31 Mar 2000 10:28:27 -0800


  I don't know what it says about a band when they've reached the stage LZ has...there's a 'Symphonic Led Zeppelin' cd out featuring the London Symphony Orchestra. I expected it to be awful, but it was really very good. There's another classical take on LZ, 'The String Quartet Plays Led Zeppelin'. I have no idea who The String Quartet is! Any takers on when a 'Symphonic Sergio Mendes' (or 'Symphonic fill-in-the-blank') cd comes out?

  ~~ Paul, Hepcat


Send FREE April Fool's Greetings to your friends!
http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/redirects/American_Greetings.rdct


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Chris Strouth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) High Fidelity
Date: 31 Mar 2000 13:14:59 -0500


Hi all,

I know this is a bit past but I happened to catch a screening last
night. I found it charming. really just a great little picture, not
explosive not huge, but pretty terrific.  The thing that really
resonates (and also why it probably won't be a huge hit) is that it
really nails the whole  persona of the  cool store record clerk. It
is the life story  of half the people I know. While no one was  into
exotica (the closest they get is sterolab) it still featured plenty
of Vinyl.
The thing that really tripped me out about it, had nothing to do with
the film rather a thing on MTV news about it , where they described
it has "thirty-something" comedy.  what does that mean? I have to
admit that I am 31 but still 30 something, isn't that about  cheating
yuppies in the late  80's !?! How could the MTV I grew up with turn
on me...sigh...

On the upside last week, I found a copy of Les Baxters Caribbean
moonlight  for 65 cents. three weeks before that I found Martin
Denny's Primitiva,  The Enchanted Sea and  The Wonderful World of
Antonio Carlos Jobim for  also for 65 cents each.  I love he
midwest!!!(especially  when I find a good stash before King Kini
does!)

Chris Strouth


>The film was the crown jewel of the recent SXSW film festival. I passed
>despite with the lures of Cusack and Stephen Frears. Two friends who
>watched, trashed it. Local reviews mixed or fawning--the fawning one in the
>newspaper that sponsors SXSW. Typical. For what it's worth, I enjoyed the
>Nick Hornsby novel in mid-read but recall nothing about it now. Didn't the
>novel come up here last spring?
>
>Here's a capsule review from http://www.moviepundit.com/
>"A music junkie (John Cusack) owns a hip old record store in Chicago while
>musing to the audience about his romantic failures. The plot is a little
>jumpy, but "High Fidelity" has its clever moments - such as the hijinks of
>the two flunkies who work at the record store. Almost a must-see for big
>music fans, especially followers of Bruce Springsteen. Directed by Stephen
Frears, who made "The Grifters" with Cusack ten years ago."
--
  while online visit:
  http://www.futureperfect.org
  http://www.stanridgway.com
  http://www.alliedchemical.com
  http://www.tt.net/ultramodern

                           end of transmission...


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) hope and jazz (an indulgence more than a post)
Date: 31 Mar 2000 15:26:43 -0500


Yesterday I was in this record store and the clerk, a guy in my film, was
playing me all kinds of this breakbeat, sampley, jazzy trip hop, NOT house
music that was in all these different sections but basically sounded like
the same kind of stuff to me.
He didn't play me the Bobby Hughes thing but they had it.  He played me
this thing called Cinematic Orchestra or something and I quite liked it,
even though it was a lot closer to jazz than the other stuff and I didn't
expect it.
The first cut sounded exactly like Alice Coltrane but with a difference.
The only thing I ended up buying was a used thing, which I thought would be
gone if I didn't grab it.  Emperor's new clothes. "Wisdom and lies".  I
assume the emperor is the name of the band, not the other way round.
It's also very close to jazz.

Anyway I decided to trade in the few jazz CD's I still have and see if I
can get four or five of those expensive CD's he played me.
I bought a whole bunch of jazz CD's when I first got a CD player and they
were reissuing all that stuff I once never thought I'd see.  But little by
little I've been getting rid of it.  I have all these jazz LP's I never
play anymore and I figured "if you want jazz, play the LP's".

So I just made a pile of CD rejects and I pulled out an LP to see if it
would do the trick.  Keno Duke if you must know.  I just thought of him
because I saw his name on some acid jazz CD compilation yesterday.

That girl I told you about is basically gone now, somewhere in the deep
background.  But tomorrow I'm still going through with my plan - inspired
by her - and I'm going to try and quit smoking.  I'm using it all.  The
patch, the gum and the anti-depressant drugs.
I think I can do it as long as I keep remembering that some cool people
don't smoke and some very uncool people do.

I had a strong sense of deja vu listening to the jazz LP.  It's like I
could remember the person I was when I listened almost exclusively to music
like that.  (And when I had a LOT fewer records...)
That person was certainly cynical and negative and bitter but he had a lot
more HOPE than I've had in a long time.  And that's why it makes sense to
quit smoking even if the woman I originally planned to do it for, is
probably a non-issue.

I'm not going to try and make a parallel between jazz and hope and exotica
and a lack of hope.  But I could probably say something about the
difference between pursuing music and pursuing records.  Which is what my
film is about.  But I don't think I knew quite what I was getting at in the
film, until just a few minutes ago.

I don't need to send this now but I think I will anyway.

Nat





# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Drugs and Cartoons
Date: 31 Mar 2000 12:38:14 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 17:44:04 +0100
>From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Cartoons and Drugs
>
>"Stephen W. Worth" wrote:
>>
>
>> Of all of the art forms, animation is the most labor intensive.
>> The guys who worked at Disney and Warners and MGM making the
>> cartoons we think of as being "surreal and drug induced" today
>> made them with long man hours and careful design, not flashes
>> of inspiration from psychedelic drugs.
>
>But was their work influenced by the drug taking of others?

The major influences of the Disney artists were illustrators like
Arthur Rackham and N. C. Wyeth. Disney maintained an incredible
library of illustrated children's books. It still existed intact
in boxes up until a few years back.

The animators at Disney were basically midwestern farm boys. Their
tastes were pretty practical. The surrealism they created was a
natural outgrowth of the exaggerated caricature of cartooning
(squash and stretch, contrasts and rhythm). If you look closely at
them, they aren't all that different from the Mickey Mouse cartoons
of the time. The subject matter is just more abstract.

The only fine artists who had direct contact with Disney were
Oskar Fischenger and Salvador Dali. But neither of them lasted
more than a couple of months at the studio and the projects they
worked on didn't amount to anything. I've spoken to a lot of
animators who were there at the time, and none of them ever saw
Dali on the lot.

I've never heard a single story of drug use at Disney in the 30s
and 40s. They were too busy working for that.

See ya
Steve

      Stephen Worth
      [e-mail]

      The Web: http://www.spumco.com
      Usenet:  alt.animation.spumco
      Palace:  cartoonsforum.com:9994

      Spumco International
      415 E. Harvard St. Ste. 204
      Glendale, CA 91205



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Drugs and Cartoons
Date: 31 Mar 2000 15:58:23 -0500


"Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]> wrote:
I've never heard a single story of drug use at Disney in the 30s
and 40s. They were too busy working for that.
---------
Yeah, that's Disney, but what about at Fleishcher Bros. or Van Buren?
They were under the influence of something, even if it was nothing
more than a pretty dame and an urban moon.

-Lou
[e-mail]



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) High Fidelity
Date: 31 Mar 2000 13:05:24 -0800 (PST)


The mid-west and the semi-south seem to be good
pickings: yesterday I scored what must have been
someone's collection from the 60s: Charles Chenier -
not sure the name is Charles (may be thinking Trenet)
or the lp's title, but it is Louisiana zydeco R&B on
the GNP label; Lightening Hopkins: Lightening Strikes;
Leadbelly, Brownie McGee, Blind Willie Something or
other and Memphis Minnie lps. And something by The
Fugs with Allen Ginsberg and Gregory Corso mumbling on
a track or two.

Last weekend I found Bob Thompson's Mmm Nice!....
which I have not tired of playing yet.

So, if anyone here enjoys rockabilly and comes across
a Simon and Garfunkel lp on Pickwick (Greatest Hits or
something like that) on which you cannot recognize the
title of a single song - pick it up, it's the "Tom and
Jerry" stuff you read about (as opposed to that tame
Tom and Jerry instrumental guitar lp listed on E-Bay
occasionally as S&G).

Right. Have a good weekend,

BW

--- Chris Strouth <[e-mail]> wrote:


> On the upside last week, I found a copy of

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) top selling toys
Date: 31 Mar 2000 16:06:48 -0500


Annual Lists of Top-Selling Toys -- TMA
 http://www.toy-tma.com/industry/news/topselling/annual.html
 Toy Manufacturers of America (TMA) Homepage
 http://www.toy-tma.com/index.html

 To the great satisfaction of many, no doubt, Pokemon was not the
 top-seller in 1999, losing out to the old standards -- Crayola
 Crayons and Hot Wheels cars. In terms of dollar sales, however,
 another relative newcomer stood at the top -- Furby, but it was
 followed closely by Hot Wheels, a toy costing 1/33 the price. At the
 Toy Manufacturers of America site, users can view the top-selling
 toys by dollar or unit sales for 1994-99. They can also read a list
 of new toys introduced last year as well as a ranking of the top
 software titles.



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) remembering korla pandit
Date: 31 Mar 2000 18:09:12 EST


<< i don't have any korla on CD, would this be a good comp?  anyone got it? >>

Your choices are pretty limited here, TB.  It is pretty much either this or
another which came out at least a couple of years ago.  "Odyssey" I think is
the name of it.

I beleive that one is two complete early LP's, "Latin Holiday" and "Plays
Music Of The Exotic East".  The latter being his best record, IMHO.  Not sure
if the always beautiful cover photos of KP are included in this release.

This newer one looks like it has tracks from those LPs and some others, plus
the KILLER spoken word intro to his TV show, which deserves to be seen by all
and is really the ONLY way to fully experience what Korla Pandit was all
about.

There is (was?) a video with episodes of his show available.  If anybody is
interested, I'll try to track down the URL of the place to get it.






# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) HAL is my PAL
Date: 01 Apr 2000 09:16:05 +1000


>Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:52:43 EST
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (exotica) The little hairs on the back of my neck
>
><< They're standing up as I'm listening to the version of
> Bicycle Built for Two as rendered (voice and all) by
> the IBM 7090 Computer in 1955.  Isn't this the song
> that the HAL 9000 sang? >>
>
>That track comes from a very interesting and incredible LP on Decca called
>Music For Mathematics.  It's great!

I second that emotion...anyone else with a desire to hear this remarkable lp
backed with another startling record of the RCA Music Synthesizer from 1955
should look at my tradelist and approach me well-armed with cool-ass
tradeable CDR's!!!

;-)

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
****************************



# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:Ventures
Date: 31 Mar 2000 17:05:39 -0800 (PST)


Bumble Bee Twist is on Twist With The Ventures (as is
Movin' & Groovin'). Great album.



__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Trombones Unlimited
Date: 31 Mar 2000 20:09:44 EST


As the Cheesemaster says: "Back to the music!"...Today I traded in a supply
of stuff hitherto unlistened to in 10 years' time. That's my absolute cutoff
point. With certain notable exceptions. Anyway, I ran into a streak of
misfiled "Trombones
Unlimited" LP's in the jazz section of a rekkid store I frequent.  I would
have filed them under E-Z or Now Sounds. Anyhow, I got"You're Gonna Hear From
Me", "These Bones Are Made For Walkin'", "Grazing In The Grass", and I
already had "Big Boss Bones". To sum them up, they are a step above Herb, but
a step below Brass Impact. File them under Brad Bigelow's "Herb Alpert's
Tijuana-Be's" in your collection within the "Now Sound" section (and don't
pass them by if you see 'em)....JB


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Chris Strouth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) High Fidelity
Date: 31 Mar 2000 11:53:41 -0500


Hi all,

I know this is a bit past but I happened to catch a screening last
night. I found it charming. really just a great little picture, not
explosive not huge, but pretty terrific.  The thing that really
resonates (and also why it probably won't be a huge hit) is that it
really nails the whole  persona of the  cool store record clerk. It
is the life story  of half the people I know. While no one was  into
exotica (the closest they get is sterolab) it still featured plenty
of Vinyl.
The thing that really tripped me out about it, had nothing to do with
the film rather a thing on MTV news about it , where they described
it has "thirty-something" comedy.  what does that mean? I have to
admit that I am 31 but still 30 something, isn't that about  cheating
yuppies in the late  80's !?! How could the MTV I grew up with turn
on me...sigh...

On the upside last week, I found a copy of Les Baxters Caribbean
moonlight  for 65 cents. three weeks before that I found Martin
Denny's Primitiva,  The Enchanted Sea and  The Wonderful World of
Antonio Carlos Jobim for  also for 65 cents each.  I love he
midwest!!!(especially  when I find a good stash before King Kini
does!)

Chris Strouth


>The film was the crown jewel of the recent SXSW film festival. I passed
>despite with the lures of Cusack and Stephen Frears. Two friends who
>watched, trashed it. Local reviews mixed or fawning--the fawning one in the
>newspaper that sponsors SXSW. Typical. For what it's worth, I enjoyed the
>Nick Hornsby novel in mid-read but recall nothing about it now. Didn't the
>novel come up here last spring?
>
>Here's a capsule review from http://www.moviepundit.com/
>"A music junkie (John Cusack) owns a hip old record store in Chicago while
>musing to the audience about his romantic failures. The plot is a little
>jumpy, but "High Fidelity" has its clever moments - such as the hijinks of
>the two flunkies who work at the record store. Almost a must-see for big
>music fans, especially followers of Bruce Springsteen. Directed by Stephen
>Frears, who made "The Grifters" with Cusack ten years ago."
--
  while online visit:
  http://www.futureperfect.org
  http://www.stanridgway.com
  http://www.alliedchemical.com
  http://www.tt.net/ultramodern

                           end of transmission...


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Deixa Issa Pra La
Date: 31 Mar 2000 22:37:13 -0500


That would be ..um...Walter Wanderley...  It's on his "Boss Of The Bossa
Nova" 2 CD set, which was released on Motor in 1996.  Being as Motor
doesn't really exist in the same form anymore, I don't know if this is
still available, or on another PolyGram label.  I know Dusty Groove has
carried this in the past, and probably CDNow would have it, too.  It's a
very good CD set - one CD is his Brazilian recordings, and one is his
American recordings.


ciao,

cheryl


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> They are playing a song called "Deixa Issa Pra La" on rotation at
> LuxuriaMusic.  Has anyone heard of this song and know where it is available?
>
> Some sketchy information indicates it may be on some German Comp called:
> Boss of the Bossa Nova (???) on  Motor Collector (???) label.
>
> Any info on this song and the person/group who plays it would be appreciated.


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) porn soundtracks
Date: 31 Mar 2000 22:44:42 -0500


Giovanni Berti wrote:

> I don't have that one (saw the movie but I must confess that for some
> inexplicable reason I can't recall the music), and was very happy to
> find the track "Gorgeous Linda" (Mrs. Lovelace, I presume) by The
> Lions in the french comp. "Orchestral Party, Act 1". Same comp has a
> cool throatspotation track: "Super Erotica" by "Super Erotica" (got
> it?), from the soundtrack to the movie "Rita: Erotica".

Stereo De Luxe has sampled this piece rather extensively in a track
called "Blue Rita" (it can be found on the "Pool Position" compilation
on Bungalow).

cheryl


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) porn soundtracks
Date: 01 Apr 2000 00:01:56 EST



In a message dated 3/31/0 10:45:48 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>throatspotation

HAHAHAHA


# Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list?
# Send the command "info exotica" to [e-mail].
# To post, email [e-mail]; replies go to original sender.