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From: Walt Sullivan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut - Smyrna TENNESEE
Date: 01 Feb 2000 02:21:12 -0600


A co-worker used to frequent this establishment regularly since she lives
in Smyrna. Here is what she remembers:

>There was a story on the back of the menu about the proprietor --
>apparently a WWII vet who started the place after returning from service
>in Hawaii.

It's run by his daughter now.


>I guess one of the odder things about the place is that it is "BYOB" (no
>kidding... it says it own the menu).  I guess they lost their liquor
>license somewhere along the way?

Until Jan 1, 2000, xxxx by the drink was verboten in Smyrna. She said
'beer' but this might have included liquor in general. She doesn't know if
there have been any changes at the Omni Hut due to this.


No Tiki mugs that she can remember. But some type of drinks come with those
cute little umbrellas that everyone is talking about now-a-days.

The walls have some sort of florescent floral motif that was subjected to
black light irradiation. Don't know if that constitutes the entire wall
covering motif or is used sparingly for effect. But for my money, you can't
have enough black light in a room.

There is a waterfall inside.

She wasn't very specific about the menu - basic Poly stuff - except for the
appetizer platter - She really liked that. And the 'flaming volcano ice
cream desert' with some sort of combustible material dropped in the caldera.

The front door handles are large wooden cylindrical carved things - She
couldn't confirm if they were Tikis or not.

She couldn't remember anything about background music.

If you have any questions, I can pass them along.

walt



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun
Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:33:11 +0000


 Found these supposedly original lyrics, that seem to support Johan's
version::

                                                       1. There is a
house in New Orleans
                                                        They call the
Rising Sun
                                                        It's been the
ruin of many a poor girl
                                                        And me, Oh Lord!
was one

                                                        My mother was a
tailor,
                                                        She sewed them
new blue jeans.
                                                        My lover he was
a gambler, Oh Lord,
                                                        |: Gambled down
in New Orleans. :|

                                                        2. My lover, he
was a gambling man
                                                        He went from
town to town;
                                                        And the only
time he was satisfied
                                                        Was when he
drank his liquor down.

                                                        Now the only
thing a gambling man needs
                                                        Is a suitcase
and a trunk;
                                                        And the only
time he's ever satisfied
                                                        |: Is when he's
on a drunk. :|

                                                        3. If I only
list'nd when my dear mother said:
                                                        Beware, my
child, when you roam,
                                                        Keep away from
drunkards and all those gambling men,
                                                        It's best by far
to come home.

                                                        Go and tell my
baby sister
                                                        Never do like I
have done,
                                                        But to shun that
house in New Orleans
                                                        |: That they
call the Rising Sun. :|

                                                        4. With one foot
on the platform,
                                                        And one foot on
the train
                                                        I'm goin' back
to New Orleans
                                                        To wear the ball
and chain.

                                                        I'm going back
to New Orleans
                                                        My race is
almost run;
                                                        I'm going back
to spend the rest of my life
                                                        |: Beneath that
Rising Sun. :|

Here's a little discussion about it, I found elsewhere:


Posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 22, 1999 at 06:01:47:
In Reply to: Original house of the rising sun? posted by ACE on October
21, 1999 at 12:20:17:

There is no such thing as 'the original' House Of the Rising Sun. The
song is based on a 16th. century British ballad (The Unfortunate Rake).
This early version traveled to America where it began a new life in the
bars of New Orleans. I've got a very early version by the black female
singer Hally Wood, recorded somewhere in the late 20's. It's on the '64
Elektra 4-LP set 'The Folk Box). The original lyrics were very diferent
though. House Of the Rising used to be about a brothel, from a
prostitute's point of view, but later interpreters cleaned the song up
(most notalbly the Animals). So if you want a very early version, check
good blues compilations. But Baez, Dylan? No way.
Hope this helps!
R.


Posted by What Do You Know on October 22, 1999 at 19:23:57:
In Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by The Flying
Dutchman on October 22, 1999 at 06:01:47:

The "House of the Rising Sun" is about a parrish prison in La (the
state, not the city). They all had "House" names. Every freekin' body
thinks it is about a slut house. Get real and get the facts.


Posted by Neil E. on October 23, 1999 at 21:44:56:
n Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by The Flying
Dutchman on October 23, 1999 at 12:50:22:

I believe he is thinking of Leadbelly's version. The old blues singer
Jesse Fuller once said in an interview that Leadbelly learned the song
while in prison and changed the words to reflect his situation at the
time.

After some inquiry, I learned that a woman, Georgia Turner from
Kentucky, is given credit for the song first here in America. Prior to
Eric Burdon, it was about a woman. A burnt out prostitute that keeps
going back to her former place of employment. Alan Lomax also found some
related songs from Suffolk, England. The name 'Rising Sun' also shows up
in two other old British songs, both refer to a bawdy house of some
sort. ;-)

If anyone really wants to argue, hey I'm just passing along what I
found. Believe the version you want.


Posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 24, 1999 at 11:16:48:
In Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by Neil E. on
October 23, 1999 at 21:44:56:

The Elektra box set comes with a booklet with the printed lyrics of this
very early - 20's - version of House Of the Rising Sun and it's clearly
from the perspective of a burned out and bitter prostitute, not only
complaining about her own fate and that she has to put up with heavy
drinking men, but also warning girls 'not to do what I have done.' I'm
not looking for an argument either, just like to exchange information,
and like to do that with an open mind and a decent attitude. Even when
we talk about prostitutes.
That's why I made my point in the previous post.
Regards,
R.

Interesting, isn't it?
Mo



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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TILT!
Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:32:48 +1100


Scott Walker's TILT was the first thing I ever heard by Walker, back in '95
when it came out.  I hated it.  With a passion.  "Who is this goof, trying
to sound for all the world like Neil Diamond gone opera..." Especially
puzzling to me since I'd read gushing reviews by all the 'good' music press.
 Ah, well, not for me, said I.

Well, soon after, I heard Scott's four classic '60's LP's, and within 2
listens I swore I'd never listen to another person until I died.  Sorta.
Unbelieveably fantastic.  THEN, I dug further back to this mystery bloke's
roots to hear the Walker Brothers.  It was then that I realized that Scott
was on an upward and outward trajectory from the very beginning.  The WB's
sweet pop was the springboard, and Walker broke the band up at the height of
their chart success, to pursue a totally personal vision, indifferent to
popular appeal.

I soon realized I'd better give TILT a second listen.  Man, is it a good
thing I did.  Knowing the road this guy had come down to get to that point,
I think TILT is a completely riveting and searing record.  Sometimes harsh
jap-noise, sometimes Xenakis-like dread tones, with the occasional very
brief and sweet break in the clouds before sinking again.

I agree that his voice sounds nothing like the early Scott.  In fact, I'd
never really know it was the same voice.  But it sends chills down your
spine, and his over-the-top crooning never had it so cold.  So if you can
allow yourself three or four listens through the record to acclimate, it
will pay off.  As 'm.ace' succinctly put it, ain't no sound bytes here,
folks...it's gotta run it's eerie coarse.

Keith

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun (improved formatting)
Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:43:36 +0000


Found these supposedly original lyrics, that seem to support Johan's version::

1. There is a house in New Orleans
They call the Rising Sun
It's been the ruin of many a poor girl
And me, Oh Lord! was one

My mother was a tailor,
She sewed them new blue jeans.
My lover he was a gambler, Oh Lord,
|: Gambled down in New Orleans. :|

2. My lover, he was a gambling man
He went fromtown to town;
And the only time he was satisfied
Was when he drank his liquor down.

Now the only thing a gambling man needs
Is a suitcase and a trunk;
And the only time he's ever satisfied
|: Is when he's on a drunk. :|

3. If I only list'nd when my dear mother said:
Beware, my child, when you roam,
Keep away from drunkards and all those gambling men,
It's best by far to come home.

Go and tell my baby sister
Never do like I have done,
But to shun that house in New Orleans
|: That they call the Rising Sun. :|

4. With one foot on the platform,
And one foot on the train
I'm goin' back to New Orleans
To wear the ball and chain.

I'm going back to New Orleans
My race is almost run;
I'm going back to spend the rest of my life
|: Beneath that Rising Sun. :|


Here's a little discussion about it, I found elsewhere:


Posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 22, 1999 at 06:01:47:
In Reply to: Original house of the rising sun? posted by ACE on October
21, 1999 at 12:20:17:

There is no such thing as 'the original' House Of the Rising Sun. The
song is based on a 16th. century British ballad (The Unfortunate Rake).
This early version traveled to America where it began a new life in the
bars of New Orleans. I've got a very early version by the black female
singer Hally Wood, recorded somewhere in the late 20's. It's on the '64
Elektra 4-LP set 'The Folk Box). The original lyrics were very diferent
though. House Of the Rising used to be about a brothel, from a
prostitute's point of view, but later interpreters cleaned the song up
(most notalbly the Animals). So if you want a very early version, check
good blues compilations. But Baez, Dylan? No way.
Hope this helps!
R.


Posted by What Do You Know on October 22, 1999 at 19:23:57:
In Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by The Flying
Dutchman on October 22, 1999 at 06:01:47:

The "House of the Rising Sun" is about a parrish prison in La (the
state, not the city). They all had "House" names. Every freekin' body
thinks it is about a slut house. Get real and get the facts.


Posted by Neil E. on October 23, 1999 at 21:44:56:
n Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by The Flying
Dutchman on October 23, 1999 at 12:50:22:

I believe he is thinking of Leadbelly's version. The old blues singer
Jesse Fuller once said in an interview that Leadbelly learned the song
while in prison and changed the words to reflect his situation at the
time.

After some inquiry, I learned that a woman, Georgia Turner from
Kentucky, is given credit for the song first here in America. Prior to
Eric Burdon, it was about a woman. A burnt out prostitute that keeps
going back to her former place of employment. Alan Lomax also found some
related songs from Suffolk, England. The name 'Rising Sun' also shows up
in two other old British songs, both refer to a bawdy house of some
sort. ;-)

If anyone really wants to argue, hey I'm just passing along what I
found. Believe the version you want.


Posted by The Flying Dutchman on October 24, 1999 at 11:16:48:
In Reply to: Re: Original house of the rising sun? posted by Neil E. on
October 23, 1999 at 21:44:56:

The Elektra box set comes with a booklet with the printed lyrics of this
very early - 20's - version of House Of the Rising Sun and it's clearly
from the perspective of a burned out and bitter prostitute, not only
complaining about her own fate and that she has to put up with heavy
drinking men, but also warning girls 'not to do what I have done.' I'm
not looking for an argument either, just like to exchange information,
and like to do that with an open mind and a decent attitude. Even when
we talk about prostitutes.
That's why I made my point in the previous post.
Regards,
R.

Interesting, isn't it?
Mo


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun
Date: 01 Feb 2000 08:12:57 -0500


About 10 years ago I took a trip to New Orleans - and on my very first
afternoon there I took a 'Walking Voodoo Tour of New Orleans'  It was a good
introduction to the city - got to see Marie Laveau's grave, Congo Square (where
the slaves, free blacks, and others met to drum and make music), and a neat
Catholic Church that was more 'voodoo' friendly than the churches up north.

At one point, our guide stopped, pointed to a building, and said that building
was the original 'House of the Rising Sun'   I took a picture of the building,
but didn't believe him.  I got the impression that he was just saying the
statement to make the gullible tourists happy.  We also went into this drug
store museum, where on the walls they had placed various canisters that held
various herbs - among them were jars marked Love Potion #11, Love Potion #8,
and of course, Love Potion #9.  I got a picture of that too, although I doubted
the authenticity of it.  Still I loved it all - if they are looking for
gullible tourists, at least they have the good taste to appeal to the tourists
who know a bit of music history.

At the time the tour started from the Voodoo museum, which was located on a
quiet side street in the French Quarter - you had to make a small effort to get
there.  Last time I was there, it has been moved to Bourbon Street - where it
was visited and regularly crowded by large groups of tourists.

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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TOM DISSEVELT
Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:35:00 +1100


While I'm pecking away, does anyone on the list have any idea what became of
Thomas Dissevelt, the fella who rocked the 'Song of the Second Moon' with
Kid Baltan?  Alive or dead (Lou?)?  Whereabouts?  Composing?  Inquiring
minds just hafta know.

Keith

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) House of the Rising Sun
Date: 01 Feb 2000 07:30:40 -0800 (PST)


Being from New Orleans you'd think I'd know more about this but a friend sent
it to me.
          This was in Gambit a local New Orleans newspaper  two weeks ago:

"HEY BLAKE,
          I've taken a number of tours of the French Quarter, and there
seems to be a divergence of opinion as to the existance of the famed
House of the Rising Sun. Sevral carriage tours feature this as a part of
their tours. However, I've heard from a number of tour guides that this
is a product f some writer's fertile imagination. What's your view?"

                    JOSEPH

DEAR JOSEPH,
           We love good stories in the Big Easy, so a lot of folks
mistakenly believe this one about the house of ill repute made famous by
the Animals' song in the 1960s. From time to time, a new version of the
story appears, and a recent one about the house that was the "ruin of
many a poor boy" involves a madam who operated an establishment at
826-830 St. Louis St. from 1862-74.
           According to the story, the owner was Marianne LeSoleil
Levant, whose name means "rising sun" in French. It seems the house was
shut down because the neighbors complained of the noise. But this claim
cannot be supported by public records such as city directories from the
period.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck



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From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Four Rooms (Movie)
Date: 01 Feb 2000 09:29:48 -0600


Has anybody seen this movie?  I don't recall seeing it discussed in
recent months, but it appeared to be a few years old.  Heavy exotica
soundtrack.  Tim Roth plays a hotel employee who experiences 4 wildly
different groups of people in all sorts of weird, very campy, over the
top situations - alternates between groaningly not funny and hysterical,
featuring Ione Skye & Madonna as part of a coven (the first segment, and
perhaps the funniest), and several other character actors through the 4
segments of the film; Antonio Banderas is in one segment and I just
can't recall the balance - but I was quite surprised at how much exotica
music courses through this film, although I wouldn't venture to try to
name the tunes; I fell asleep before the credits ran....
--
Mark D. Head
The Captain
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest
Date: 01 Feb 2000 10:34:48 EST


In a message dated 01/31/2000 11:06:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Pack 'em up and bring 'em to New York, Roy. That record, along with most of
 the other 70's F&T titles, are getting up to $40 a piece at the various
 rare groove stores. >>

And Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream & Other Delights" was selling for
twenty-five bucks a copy.

And soon after, as it was written in prophecy, the End Time grew nigh and the
4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse rode into town, peddling Mantovani for a hundred
bucks a pop.

May God have mercy on their souls, for they know not what they do,
-R.G.B.


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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Shrunken Heads
Date: 01 Feb 2000 16:40:35 +0100



 A baseball signed by Charles Manson. Original acrylic paintings
 of Pogo the Clown by John Wayne Gacy. Hand-carved Tibetan
 funerary skulls embellished in silver. A wooden embalming table
 from the 1800s. Hundreds of death photos of suicide, homicide
 and car-crash victims. A bottle of Black Death Vodka. And a
 Vincent Price shrunken-head apple-sculpture kit in vintage
 condition.

 http://www.salon.com/travel/feature/2000/02/01/death/index.html

 The Museum of Death is located at 6340 Hollywood Blvd., No.
 2, Hollywood, CA 90028. Entrance on Ivar Avenue. Admission,
 $7. Call 323-466-8011. A grand opening celebration is planned
 for Feb. 14 in honor of Chicago's St. Valentine's Day Massacre.


 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 *** Ton Rueckert   Mozartstraat 12  5914 RB Venlo   The Netherlands ***
 *** [e-mail]   http://www.plex.nl/~mojoto   Ph 31/0 773545386 ***
 *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ***
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~     Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected.    ~~~ ~~~
 ~~~  http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/4264/music/Xbe3975.ram  ~~~
 ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) [obits] David Levy,K.N. Singh,Joseph Deighton Gibson Jr.
Date: 01 Feb 2000 10:46:33 -0500


                            *David Levy
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- David Levy, the former network executive who
created ``The Addams Family'' television comedy, died Jan. 25. He
was 87.
    He was vice president of the television department at the Young
& Rubicam advertising agency in the 1950s when ad agencies were
pivotal in the development of TV shows.
    In 1959, Levy became vice president in charge of programming at
NBC and he was instrumental in bringing ``Dr. Kildare,''
``Bonanza'' and the ``Movie of the Week'' to the network. He left
NBC in the 1960s.
    He was best-known as creator of ``The Addams Family,'' which ran
on ABC from 1964 to 1966.
    A critic of excessive sex and violence in television shows, Levy
later became a leader of the Caucus of Producers-Writers-Directors,
helping to steer the group into supporting strict ratings for
television.
----
                            *K.N. Singh
    BOMBAY, India (AP) -- K.N. Singh, the ``gentleman villain'' actor
of Hindi cinema for more than six decades, died Monday. He was 91.
    Singh gave up his career as a lawyer in 1937 and brought his
robust personality and chilling voice to Bombay, where he joined
India's young movie industry. India now makes more movies than any
other country.
    Singh played dandies and bad guys in more than 200 movies and
was famous for his pipe-smoking, hat-wearing character of the
``gentleman villain.''
----
                     *Joseph Deighton Gibson Jr.
    HENDERSON, Nev. -- Joseph Deighton Gibson Jr., better known to
his broadcast audience as ``Jack The Rapper,'' died Sunday after a
lengthy illness. The radio pioneer was 79.
    Gibson, who began his career in 1945, was known as ``Jockey
Jack'' during his early years in radio. He first worked in Atlanta
on WERD, one of the nation's first black owned and operated radio
stations, in a talk show called, ``Good Morning, Atlanta.''
    Gibson pioneered the standup broadcast booth, according to the
book ``A Journey Through Black Radio in America.''
    ``Gibson thought if disc jockeys stood up, they would project
their voices with higher energy, thus he raised all the broadcast
studio equipment,'' the book said.
    As Jack The Rapper, he founded an annual national music
conference called ``Family Affair'' and was Motown's first national
director of promotions in 1962.
    He also worked for DECCS Records from 1966 to 1969 and at one
time was a vice president of promotions at Stax Records. In 1955 he
founded the group National Association of Radio Announcers.
    In addition to his wife, Gibson is survived by a daughter; a
son; a sister; six grandchildren; and eight great-grandchildren.
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Incorrect Music online archives
Date: 01 Feb 2000 10:50:29 -0500


Irwin Chusid's Incorrect Music show is now being archived online.
Here's the URL and list of available shows:

http://www.incorrectmusic.com/audio/archive/
2000 programs
January 26, 2000
Includes: "Candy Pants," "I Just Want to Make Love to You," J&H
Productions, "The Answer's 'No' Tonight," Spring Glen Grade
School Orchestra.

Selected 1999 programs

December 15, 1999
Includes: James "Rebel" O'Leary, "Curly Toes," "Song of the
Burmese Land," Xaviera Hollander, Patricia Brady-Danzig.

December 8, 1999
Includes: Leonard Nimoy, Y. Bhekhirst, B.J. Snowden, Patricia
Brady-Danzig, "Moon Pilot."

June 16, 1999
Includes: Wooshi Spkomoto, special self-love set, "Michael
Ferrucci," "Boys Boys Boys."

June 9, 1999
Includes: Ed McMahon, Little Lisa, "Crown Heights Pogrom."



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) TOM DISSEVELT
Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:15:18 -0500


"Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> While I'm pecking away, does anyone on the list have any idea what became of
Thomas Dissevelt, the fella who rocked the 'Song of the Second Moon' with
Kid Baltan?  Alive or dead (Lou?)?

Sorry. All I really know about Tom Dissevelt is that he was a
technician at Nat-lab, the first electronic music studio set up at the
Philips physics laboratory in Eindhoven, Netherlands. Dick Raaijmakers
was another technician there at the same time.

-Lou




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Subject: Re: (exotica) TOM DISSEVELT
Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:25:32 -0500


"Keith E. Lo Bue"  wrote:
> While I'm pecking away, does anyone on the list have any idea what became of
Thomas Dissevelt?

Just thought of something.
You might be able to get info from NEAR (Nederlands Elektro-Akoestisch
 Repertoirecentrum), the centre for Dutch electro-acoustic music.
Their URL is:
http://www.near.nl/near/nearframehoofden.html
E-mail: [e-mail]
-Lou




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Four Rooms (Movie)
Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:18:52 -0500


"Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Has anybody seen this movie?
I was quite surprised at how much exotica
music courses through this film, although I wouldn't venture to try to
name the tunes; I fell asleep before the credits ran....
--
Mark D. Head
The Captain
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Four Rooms (Movie)
Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:18:52 -0500


"Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Has anybody seen this movie?
I was quite surprised at how much exotica
music courses through this film, although I wouldn't venture to try to
name the tunes; I fell asleep before the credits ran....
--
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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun (improved
Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:16:48 +0000


Moritz R wrote:
>

> There is no such thing as 'the original' House Of the Rising Sun. The
> song is based on a 16th. century British ballad (The Unfortunate Rake).

...'rake' implies the subject was male.

> Alan Lomax also found some
> related songs from Suffolk, England. The name 'Rising Sun' also shows up
> in two other old British songs, both refer to a bawdy house of some
> sort. ;-)

'The Rising Sun' is a common pub name here.



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From: "Ponak, David" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Scott Walker/Meltdown
Date: 01 Feb 2000 11:43:25 -0800


It is my understanding that Scott Walker will be curator of the Meltdown
Festival this summer. There is no word about him performing, which seems
highly unlikely. If he were, I'd be buying my plane ticket for sure.

Speaking of Scott, did everyone hear the wonderful track that he recorded
for the soundtrack to the last James Bond film, The World Is Not Enough? It
was called "Only Myself To Blame" and it's a wonderful torch ballad in the
style of his late 60's work. Not a Scott original, but a good song and an
amazing performance.


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From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) $40 Ferrante and Teicher Vinyl
Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:12:35 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>At 9:44 PM -0500 1/31/00, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>I was just glancing at their Now Sound vinyl and I saw a used VG+ graded copy
>>of Ferrante & Teicher's "Getting Together" for $14.99.

>Pack 'em up and bring 'em to New York, Roy. That record, along with most of
>the other 70's F&T titles, are getting up to $40 a piece at the various
>rare groove stores.
>br cleve

We have record stores like that in LA... No one ever buys
anything from them.

I don't have many politico-economic principles set in stone, but
not paying over $10 for any hunk of vinyl is one of them. $1 or
$2 disks I will take a chance on, but a $10 one better be pretty
damn good.

Even with that resolution, there is still more good music than
I can haul home with me.

As record collectors we are scavengers of middle America's cast-
offs. We should proudly admit that. We shouldn't be party to
trying to elevate our status through artificial inflation of
prices.

See ya
Steve

See ya
Steve

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From: "B.J. (Barbara J.) Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) $40 Ferrante and Teicher Vinyl
Date: 01 Feb 2000 12:41:14 -0800


>I don't have many politico-economic principles set in stone, but
>not paying over $10 for any hunk of vinyl is one of them. $1 or
>$2 disks I will take a chance on, but a $10 one better be pretty
>damn good.

You are fortunate in that you can find what you want and like for so low
a price of one or two dollars.  I'm not in that position, unfortunately.

>As record collectors we are scavengers of middle America's cast-
>offs. We should proudly admit that. We shouldn't be party to
>trying to elevate our status through artificial inflation of
>prices.

I'd love to quote this last paragraph the next time someone defends price
gouging at auctions (especially eBay) on the A&M Discussion Forum.  May I
use the quote?  I sure could have used that quote this past weekend to
backup my statements when that topic was discussed.  While they fiercely
defend searching cut out bins, thrift stores and the like for inexpensive
A&M vinyl, many of the same folks have no problem with an auction seller
getting $200.00 and up for a 15 yr. old Herb Alpert CD!  Talk about major
ripoff.

Oh well, off to work now.


Regards,
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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [non entirely offtopic] WDW/Orlando
Date: 01 Feb 2000 23:32:39 +0100


hello,
I am going to Orlando for a week in march with my girlfriend, to visit
Disneyworld and as several times here I've seen discussions on the Tiki
Room etc. I'd love some advice (mail me privately:)))) on things to do/see,
and especially on restaurants!
Particularly, we have read about an expensive one called Victoria and
Albert... help anyone?? :))

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Four Rooms (Movie)
Date: 01 Feb 2000 17:47:53 -0800


At 12:18 PM 01-02-00 -0500, Mark wrote:
>I was quite surprised at how much exotica
>music courses through this film, although I wouldn't venture to try to
>name the tunes; I fell asleep before the credits ran...

Mainly Combustible Edison with some Esquivel thrown in.  For me, the movie
is best seen as if it were an anthology series (in fact, one of the stories
looks like it was based on one of the more famous episodes of the original
Alfred Hitchcock Presents)...a half hour at a time.

In general, the movie was not so great but the music was outstanding.  I am
not sure all of the music actually fit the scene (especially Esquivel's),
but it sounds great all by itself.

I have seen the soundtrack CD on sale within the last 6 months at closeout
prices (5 dollars or less).  This is a good CD!

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Message Bounce: Re: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni
Date: 01 Feb 2000 20:29:29 -0800


>> OK
>> who on the list lives near there or will be traveling through there within
>> the next 6 months
>> I smell a story here!
>>
>> Aloha
>> Otto
>>
>> [e-mail]
>> www.tikinews.com
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: Walt Sullivan <[e-mail]>
>> >To: [e-mail]
>> >Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut - Smyrna TENNESEE
>> >Date: Tue, Feb 1, 2000, 12:21 AM
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >A co-worker used to frequent this establishment regularly since she lives
>> >in Smyrna. Here is what she remembers:


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From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind
Date: 01 Feb 2000 21:15:58 -0800


>> Hey! That wasn't me on ukulele
>> That was my pal King Kukulele!
>> But thanks for even thinkin that I would be that talented
>>
>> thanks for the kind words though
>>
>> I think the best you can hope for in covering a three-day
>> (and I mean 24 hours a day) event and adding a theme host (the great El Vez)
>> is to get a TV show that is entertaining (but maybe not totally
>> representative)
>>
>> Aloha
>> Otto
>>
>> [e-mail]
>> www.tikinews.com
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
>> >To: "'EXOTICA Mailing List'" <[e-mail]>
>> >Subject: (exotica) Las Vegas Grind
>> >Date: Mon, Jan 31, 2000, 8:49 AM
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >Taped the 'Other Side' documentary on the Las Vegas Grind, Channel 4,
>> >Saturday night.  Featuring The multi-talented Otto Von Stroheim (Ukelele
>> >Yet!),  and loosely held together by El Vez.  Generally disappointing,  Not
>> >enough El Vez,  Not enough Otto (a bit out of place I thought),  and all in
>> >all reminded me of too many rockabilly/trash nights spent at the Clarenden
>> >Ballroom in Hammersmith during the Early 80's.
>> >
>> >Now, wheres that pint of Snakebite gone?
>> >
>> >El Maestro Con Queso


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Subject: (exotica) <no subject>
Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:15:12 -0800



>> OK
>> who on the list lives near there or will be traveling through there within
>> the next 6 months
>> I smell a story here!
>>
>> Aloha
>> Otto
>>
>> [e-mail]
>> www.tikinews.com
>>
>> ----------
>> >From: Walt Sullivan <[e-mail]>
>> >To: [e-mail]
>> >Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut - Smyrna TENNESEE
>> >Date: Tue, Feb 1, 2000, 12:21 AM
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >A co-worker used to frequent this establishment regularly since she lives
>> >in Smyrna. Here is what she remembers:


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From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Gardens, Florida
Date: 01 Feb 2000 22:13:24 -0800


Does anyone have the soundtrack to this Tiki amusement park that was
bulldozed in the late 80s?

I need a copy of it

Aloha
Otto

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) House of the Rising Sun
Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:08:36 +0000


In yet another homepage for Folk music I read a serious looking text,
stating that the original is an English folk song from the 18th century
called "Rising Sun", which actually was a "whore's lament" already. The
original text of "The house Of..."  is clearly from a woman's point of
view, so it would fit into this theory. The theory that "The House Of
the Rising Sun" has something to do with the folk traditional "The
Unfortunate Rake" I cannot confirm; this would rather be the original to
"St. James Infirmary" and "The Streets Of Laredo". They all are filed
however under "Funeral Songs". Nice category, eh?

Is anyone out there a bit more familiar with traditional folk music than
I am?

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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Space Age Don Juan: Managers of the flesh compete for pimp of
Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:35:31 +0100



With so much talk about whore songs and New Orleans brothels
lately, I consider this to be right on topic...

Cheers, Ton




A whore's job is to break a pimp down, Ken says, and a nagging
prostitute makes a pimp beat her. "But you can only beat a person
for so long," he adds. "I tried, but it wasn't easy to jump on
someone and then sleep next to her. When I look at most women, I
have to consider my mother and the love that I have for her; if
it weren't for that, I'd probably be just as cold and callous as
other pimps."

Now Ken is into space-age pimping, where the philosophy is that
a woman stays because of choice, not force. He has to control a
woman's mind without physical abuse by selling her a dream.
"Besides," he adds, "if you beat a woman and destroy her face,
how can she get your money?"

http://www.salon.com/health/sex/urge/2000/01/29/pimps/index.html


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From: Jenna K <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut Smyrna TENNESEE
Date: 02 Feb 2000 08:23:32 -0600 (CST)


Hmmm...how far is that from Memphis? I'll be there in March. Which brings
me to a question - anyone know of good stuff (hotels, resturants, thrift
shops, general postwar weirdness) in Memphis?


>> OK
>> who on the list lives near there or will be traveling through there
within
>> the next 6 months
>> I smell a story here!

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From: Kirsten Noel Whitley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Candles
Date: 02 Feb 2000 08:31:26 -0600 (CST)


For those who must have all things tiki:

http://www.fabric8.com/bazaar/710109.f8ml

--Kirsten



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Subject: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay
Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:59:55 -0500


Heads Up, y'all!

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=248382339
Currently $430.36
Time left   2 days, 9 hours +


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Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #612
Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:24:49 -0500




I had a strange experience last night - someone told me there is a Tiki bar in
Toronto,
in a bar I actually used to work at! I was at my local watering hole, babbling
about all things tiki as usual, when
the guy beside me said 'sorry, but do you mean like the Volcano Room?" and I'm
thinking whaaaaaat?
So he says "You know, that place on Queen, they have the volcanoes and the
flaming torches and the giant
wooden carved head statues?" So of course I just go ballistic, asking him a
million questions about it,
but all he can tell me is it doesnt seem to be that popular, it's too hot, and
they play house music.

The fact that a tiki bar (albeit new and probably not very good) escaped my
attention in my own city - well,
this makes me very ashamed. I will go there this saturday and report.

I do recall my boyfriend pointing out the palce to me  a couple months ago -
theres nothing on the outside but a metal door
and a sign that says 'the volcano room'-  and he said 'Oh, maybe thats a tiki
bar' and of course I said, 'nah,
if there was a tiki bar in Toronto, I would know about it!!!!'

aloha,
your humbled tiki hunter,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay
Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:50:13 PST



Do you have her phonenumber?

Mag

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Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:50:11 PST



Do you have her phonenumber?

Mag

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Whore songs: House of the Rising Sun
Date: 01 Feb 2000 19:10:24 +0100


Mo wrote:

>"It's been the ruin of many a poor boy..." etc. It still doesn't make sense to
>me. Why should a women's prison be the ruin of any poor boy?


    if a single mother goes to prison, what happens to her kid?
    anyway, iit's just what I heard, i'm not an authority on
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From: Peter Gingerich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica)The Conet Project
Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:08:01 -0500




Have you heard any of, or do you know anyone who owns "The Conet Project"?

my friend was wondering about this. Its a collection of shortwave
transmissions used by spies and such...

...In some cases, the person reading the numbers is a "sexy" female adding
inappropriate dramatics. Other strings of numbers are read by
detached-sounding small children. Occasionally incomprehensible phrases are
repeated instead of the usual strings of numbers. (An example, translated
from German: "Helmut, Kruse, Franz. Good day! The great 26 is 32. Water good
to me. The sunshine is over. Our hen is about to lay one egg.") Other
transmissions are in Morse Code. Another station plays both sides of a 1961
Bert Kaempfert 45 before delivering its encoded message. While a CD of this
nature may seem to some listeners an unlistenable joke, nearly all the
recordings collected here have a otherworldly feel to them that makes for
strangely compelling listening, especially when one considers the unsavory
possibilities (political assassination) that some of the transmissions may
represent.
The Foundry seems to be an informative site: more at
http://www.foundrysite.com/i.conet.html

Has anyone actually heard this stuff?

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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Scott
Date: 02 Feb 2000 09:40:12 -0800 (PST)


Hi!  No, I steered clear of TILT...I hope it is great,
but I suspect it is SCARY!  Would LOVE to know what
others think!
Hope all is well in the land of the EXOTIC!
Love, Jane Fondle


>
> Does anyone have anything to say on 'Tilt',  his
> early 90's LP,  I only
> found out about t recently from that 'Easy, the
> Encyclopedia of Lounge' (or
> whatever its called) book,  not too good (the book
> that is),  but it
> obviously had something in i didn't know.  Jane,
> come out from wherever you
> are,  you're my best bet I reckon.
>
>
> El Maestro Con Queso
>
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]
> http://www.shitola.freeserve.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
> http://www.geocities.com/djcheesemaster/
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Subject: (exotica) Bola Sete
Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:11:58 -0500


Does anyone have or know of this?

SETE, BOLA  "Ocean Memories"  (Samba Moon)  2cd  21.00
   The following is a quote from an article John Fahey wrote about Bola
Sete in 1976 (we're reprinting from Forced Exposure's description): "Few
living people have had such an enormous influence on my life, my music, my
soul, my religion -- you name it -- as has Bola Sete. I first saw him
playing -- solo -- in early 1972 at David Allen's Boarding House in San
Francisco. That night, I was high on drugs as I had been for several years,
and -- as also had been the case for years -- I felt that I was one
isolated example of an experimental species that God had forgotten about (I
was wrong here). I felt I had been -- and was still -- walking and talking
among shadows: 'People' who had no depth, who were not related to
themselves, did not know anything about themselves -- endless, phony,
shadow-people. And I was one of them. Bola played for about 45 minutes and
grimaced and grunted through the whole set. Something was wrong. He
couldn't 'get it out.' I knew how he felt, and I understood. Something was
wrong. I was intrigued by his obvious frustration having felt that way
myself almost all my life. The performance had been mediocre so far.
However, the audience gave him a long ovation, and he reluctantly got up
and started to play an encore, still looking frustrated, impotent, mad,
seething. I knew that feeling well. But then suddenly he got hot. He got so
cooking, he played song after song for another 45 minutes, forgetting (or
not caring) that he was doing an encore, playing many of the same songs he
had just played. My first impression that night, as I told a friend at the
time, was this: Here is a man who has lived through hell and somehow
miraculously got out of it. I went back to the Boarding House several times
that week. I found that Bola's sets have an interesting 'plot.' They all
begin and end with songs whose emotional contour is pretty, happy, light,
peaceful, or ecstatic. But after the first two or three songs, the terrain
gets rougher and darker, heavier and weirder. By the middle of his set,
Bola is giving you pictures of hell, memories of perdition, demonic music.
But then Bola gradually lightens up the spectrum of feeling and leads you
out of the cave and into the sunlight, and life is paradise. Only now, one
is so changed that one is temporarily aware that life really is paradise
after all, the world is an ocean, etc. It is like a breath from the 19th
Century or before; a breeze from times when people had passion and
significance and were not mere shadows. It is as though something has
finally changed. I talked to Bola's wife (I was too shaken to speak to him
at the time). 'How does he keep from going crazy,' I asked her, 'when he
has so much energy and tension? You can hear it in his music -- a lot of
passion and tension. How did he get out of hell?' ('How can I get out of
hell?' That's what I really wanted to know.) His music is so good it's
eerie -- eerie because it comes from a different time, a different place,
when men felt different things that we can no longer love or experience
except as an echo or phantom in the best of art works. Most of Bola's music
is eclectic and nongeneric. Take a song like 'Black Mommy.' Now, if you
didn't know anything about Bola . . . what musical tradition, period, or
era would you guess this song came from? Tasmania? Easter Island? Next
door? It comes from everywhere and nowhere. The subconscious really is
universal. Bola Sete's music is the best reminder of this that I have ever
heard. He is a man of great spirit and great depth. Bola plays
percussively, vertically, with a very heavy and insistent thumb. His
playing is very masculine (the word is an anachronisism). He plays
erratically and restlessly like Boll Weavil Jackson, Blind Lemon Jefferson,
or Bill Monroe. But he also has inner peace and breadth . . . rhythm and
dynamics are constantly changing. Bola's playing gives the impression (and
like my playing it is a false impression) of being very improvisatory. His
songs, on the other hand, tend to be very short and terse (unlike mine),
without undue repetition. But like me, he tries to recreate each song each
time he plays it, which is in effect to destroy it. . . . The only elements
of a song, which change from one performance to the next, are the number of
repetitions of each idea. The order of the ideas stays pretty much the
same. But the speed and intensity at which they are played may vary; if
Bola doesn't like the room he is playing in, or the people he is playing
for, he tends to play lousy. I do the same. We both play the way we feel,
but within a rigid structure. We play that way because we have to -- we
can't do anything else. God help us." -- John Fahey, from the article "Bola
Sete, The Nature of Infinity, And John Fahey," Guitar Player, Febuary 1976.
   "Long overdue CD reissue of one of the seminal solo guitar albums -- in
any genre -- ever recorded. Brazilian guitarist Bola Sete (Djalma de
Andrade) settled on the West Coast in 1959. Throughout the '60s he toured
widely with various jazz artists and recorded for such labels as Verve,
ABC-Paramount, Fantasy and Columbia. In 1972 he recorded Ocean, a departure
so far afield from anything else he'd ever done that Fantasy declined to
issue it. In 1975 Fahey purchased the tapes and issued the album on his
Takoma label. A second volume drawn from the same sessions was planned but
it never materialized. Ocean Memories (issued by Bola's widow, Anne Sete)
restores to print the complete Takoma album (CD 1) and the eight previously
unissued songs that would have comprised Ocean II (CD 2). I could listen to
this music forever -- it's deathless, perfect, ecstatic. It's interesting
to compare how different Bola is from Baden Powell and some of his more
technically accomplished Brazilian brothers: he's more of a sensualist, a
fantasist, and he's looser -- more rock 'n' roll." -- Glenn Jones.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Space Age Don Juan: Managers of the flesh compete for pimp of      the
Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:29:05 -0500


I think Ken should have a nice session with Joey Buttafuco's ex.
In sweetness and light,
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From: Jeff Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Memphis
Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:11:58 -0800


Jenna K wrote:

> Hmmm...how far is that from Memphis? I'll be there in March. Which brin=
gs
> me to a question - anyone know of good stuff (hotels, resturants, thrif=
t
> shops, general postwar weirdness) in Memphis?

Well, seeing as I grew up there, you'd think I'd be able to help.  But
so much has changed since then, so I'm not hep to what's happening now.=20
You MUST go to Graceland.  Take the house tour.  Take both plane tours.=20
You won't be disappointed.  TCB.

For eats, nothing beats the ribs at the Rendezvous.  They invented the
dry rub.  And a pulled-pork sandwich at Gridley's might be in order for
lunch.

Also check out the Sun Records tour/museum.  I believe there's a record
shop on Beale Street, where Elvis shopped for 45s, but they most likely
specialize in blues.  Speaking of, B.B. King's place can be pretty
happening (but full of tourists on weekends).

If you can afford it, the Peabody is a pretty swank hotel.  They have
(or had) this tradition of ducks crossing the street twice a day:  once
in the morning from the top of the hotel (where there's a pond), down
the elevator, and across the street to the park, then back again at the
end of the day.  You can imagine how exciting this was for a ten-year
old (me).

If you're interested, the MLK museum at the Lorraine Motel (where he was
shot) is first-rate.

EZ does it,

Jeff Phillips
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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Tiki Restuarant - The Omni Hut Smyrna
Date: 02 Feb 2000 13:44:00 -0500


At 08:23 AM 2/2/00 -0600, Jenna K wrote:
>
>Hmmm...how far is that from Memphis? I'll be there in March. Which brings
>me to a question - anyone know of good stuff (hotels, resturants, thrift
>shops, general postwar weirdness) in Memphis?
>
Get the White Trash Guide to Memphis when you're there.  You can get it at
this store in the middle of  Beale Street and probably other places too.
It's a short street so you can't miss it.  This is an alternative guide to
Memphis.  Among other things, it led me to look for Furry Lewis's grave.
And like most travelling things, looking for it was better than finding it.
 But I heartily recommend it, even if Furry Lewis isn't a hero of yours.
While on Beale Street, don't miss the Police Museum!  And that big old
Woolworth-style (drug?) store there.  (I can't believe I don't remember the
name.)
I didn't have much luck at thrift stores but I had a good time at a record
store called River Records.  And the last time I recommended the Shangri La
Record Store to someone on this list, he had a good time, so I might as
well recommend it again.
All other names have escaped me.  I kind of liked that "famous" restaurant
with the commemorative Elvis booth but mostly because it was near where
they filmed that Jarmusch movie.
But I loved the whole atmosphere of the city.
And have a drink if you can in the lobby of the (damn!) ??? hotel.  The big
old one near Beale Street?  Anyone?  Brian?
Faulkner said that the Mississippi began in the lobby of the ??? hotel so
ask him.
I had a drink there with that large strange actor who taught Patrick Swayze
how to jump through subway cars in Ghost.

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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Memphis
Date: 02 Feb 2000 10:49:06 -0800


Jeff Phillips wrote:
> Jenna K wrote:
> > Hmmm...how far is that from Memphis? I'll be there in March. Which brings
> > me to a question - anyone know of good stuff (hotels, resturants, thrift
> > shops, general postwar weirdness) in Memphis?

There is a favorable review of the bar at the Peabody Hotel on the
Ultimate Mai Tai site:
http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/reviews/lobbybar.html

-Kevin
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From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica)The Conet Project
Date: 02 Feb 2000 11:13:16 -0800


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Peter Gingerich
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:08 AM

> Have you heard any of, or do you know anyone who owns "The Conet Project"?

There are some sound files available here:
http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~irdial/coneline.htm. I've heard some of it, but
it's a little overwhelming. Much better, however, than the somewhat similar,
and literally otherworldly, "Ghost Orchid" project (the one that deals with
the disembodied EVP voices).

From what I understand, the CD set is already way sold out. No more copies
at the usual suspects, i.e. Forced Exposure or Anomalous. Aquarius Records
sold their 100th copy a while back; I don't think they have anymore, but I
may be wrong.

However, the last time I looked, the Museum of Jurassic Technology down in
Culver City, CA had one copy (sitting on the shelf next to Stephen
McGreevy's electromagnetic recordings).

Later,
Ben

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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Quest. about a CD burner and Turntable.....
Date: 02 Feb 2000 15:10:19 -0500


Anyone familiar with the Tascam CDRW-700 CD recorder??

It's on sale for $549.00

Is this a good 'un?

Also on sale is a gemini turntable for $170 - "direct drive" - does this =
mean it doesn't rely on a belt to turn the platter??

Thanks!

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quest. about a CD burner and Turntable.....
Date: 02 Feb 2000 12:32:02 -0800


>Anyone familiar with the Tascam CDRW-700 CD recorder??
>
>It's on sale for $549.00

>
>Is this a good 'un?

I'm not familiar with that brand, but that price is definitely steep.  I
got my LaCie CDRW drive for $369.00.  I would shop around a bit more,
especially try the mail order houses.  Ones for the computer shouldn't be
any more than what I paid, generally.  The home stand alone units that
connect to your stereo tend to run much higher, but even those I've seen
advertised on the web for $300-500.00 in various outlets.


Regards,
--bj
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kahuna Ballot
Date: 02 Feb 2000 11:47:01 -0800 (PST)


Like I said before, Grammy time is on us, and while
all the excellent music we listen to is bound to be
snubbed at the Grammys, we still have the opportunity
to pass an award on to hard-working artists and
companies who insist on supplying us with cool issues
and reissues for our listening pleasure.

That being said, the nominations are now in and the
top nominees have been arranged and are presented in a
Kahuna ballot below.

Please vote for one (and no more than one) selection
per category.  Make sure to send the poll to ME, and
not back to the list.  I'll tally the numbers and let
you all know the results.

BTW, if someone wants to design an award of some sort,
we could email it to appropriate people and they could
display it as a badge of pride.  Any takers??

Peter

PS: If you want the whole list of nominees, email me
privately and I'll mail a copy.  Let me know if you
want text, Excel 95 or Excel 97.


==== Kahuna Ballot for 1999 ====

-- Best Act of 1999 --
[  ]  Astroslut
[  ]  Combustible Edison
[  ]  Esquivel
[  ]  Jean Jacques Perrey
[  ]  The Metropole Orchestra, featuring the Beau
Hunks Saxtette

-- Best New Album of 1999 --
[  ]  Raymond Scott - Soothing Sounds for Babies
[  ]  Seks Bomba - Operation BOMBA
[  ]  Esquivel - See It In Sound
[  ]  The Metropole Orchestra, featuring the Beau
Hunks Saxtette
       - The Raymond Scott Chesterfield Arrangements
[  ]  Astroslut - Love at Zero G

-- Best Re-Release of 1999 --
[  ]  Les Maledictus Sound - Les Maledictus Sound
[  ]  Mandingo - The Primeval Rhythm Of Life/Sacrifice
[  ]  Shaggs - Philosophy of the World
[  ]  Anada Shankar - Anada Shankar
[  ]  Hugo Montengro - Moog Power
[  ]  Mandingo - Mandingo III: Story of
Survival/Savage Rite

-- Best Retrospective of 1999 --
[  ]  Dusty Springfield - Dusty in London
[  ]  Preston Epps - Bongo Rock: The Very Best of
Preston Epps
[  ]  Os Mutantes - World Psychedelic Classics One:
The Best Of
[  ]  Ennio Morricone - Canto Morricone Volume 3: The
Seventies
[  ]  Mongo Santamaria - Skin On Skin: The Mongo
Santamaria Anthology
[  ]  Esther Nelson, Bruce Haack & Dimension 5 -
Listen Compute Rock Home

-- Best Various Artist Compilation of 1999 --
[  ]  Sunshine Pop 99
[  ]  Beat at Cinecitta Vol 3
[  ]  La Guepe Volume 3 (Bananaticoco. European
Airlines to Rio)
[  ]  Doob-Doob O Rama 1970
[  ]  Best of Moog: Electronic Pop Hits from the 60's
& 70's

-- Best Box Set of 1999 --
[  ]  Dr. Samuel J Hoffman and Harry Revel - Basta
Theremin Box
[  ]  W Carlos - Switched-On Bach
[  ]  Burt Bacharach - The Look of Love

-- Best Soundtrack of 1999 --
[  ]  Roy Budd - Get Carter
[  ]  Bob Crewe - Barbarella
[  ]  Johnny Mandel - I Want to Live!
[  ]  Hugo Montenegro - Original Music from the Man
From U.N.C.L.E.
[  ]  Les Baxter - Hell's Belles

-- Best New Act of 1999 --
[  ]  Astroslut
[  ]  Fishermen
[  ]  Butterfly Joe
[  ]  Yukari Fresh
[  ]  Seks Bomba

-- Big Kahuna of 1999 --
[  ]  John Barry
[  ]  Martin Denny
[  ]  Henry Mancini
[  ]  Les Baxter
[  ]  Juan Garcia Esquivel

-- Golden Bamboo Platter of 1999 --
[  ]  Esquivel - Latinesque
[  ]  Les Baxter - Le Sacre du Sauvage
[  ]  Yma Sumac - Voice of the Xtabay
[  ]  Martin Denny - Exotica
[  ]  Arthur Lyman - Taboo

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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Public Domain stuff?
Date: 02 Feb 2000 22:23:33 +0100


a while ago there was a discussion on ancient recordings that are or might
be in the public domain... take a look at this.
www.mp3.com/publicdomain


bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Public Domain stuff?
Date: 02 Feb 2000 22:55:46 +0100


a while ago there was a discussion on ancient recordings that are or might
be in the public domain... take a look at this.
www.mp3.com/publicdomain


bye,
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soothing Sounds
Date: 02 Feb 2000 16:08:08 -0800 (PST)


Someone mentioned that Soothing Sounds for Baby is a
re-release.  Had this thing actually seen the light of
day when Scott first made it?  Is it a re-release?

I know there are some serious Scott-heads on this
list.  What say you?

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quest. about a CD burner and Turntable.....
Date: 02 Feb 2000 18:49:20 -0500


>>Anyone familiar with the Tascam CDRW-700 CD recorder??
>>It's on sale for $549.00
>>Is this a good 'un?

Hiya Nathan--I don't know this model or if the price is any good but Tascam
equipment is usually designed for musicians, sound studios,  and others in
the trade. Try a price comparison at Tascam's site, http://www.tascam.com/.
A direct mailer often sells Tascam equipment at a discount...Musicians
=46riend, I think it's called. Can't find the URL in my bookmarks. Reliable
Music carries lots o' Tascam equipment, but I don't think they discount.
http://reliablemusic.com/

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest
Date: 02 Feb 2000 19:23:03 -0800


>I love the folks at the record store Dusty Grooves America, they have great
>stuff, they're courteous (which is rare for record dealers), they have
>detailed descriptions of all the titles they sell, and their prices on CDs
>are great.
>
>Now a tiny little observational caveat.
>
>I was just glancing at their Now Sound vinyl and I saw a used VG+ graded
>copy
>of Ferrante & Teicher's "Getting Together" for $14.99.
>
>Has this record gone into great shortage since last week when I nearly saw
>copies at every thrift store I went into?  Granted the record has it's
>groovy
>points, but who is this person that's paying $15.00 for the VG+ copy of it.
>I want to met this person, because I've got a shit load of records to sell
>them.
>
>Maybe the $14.99 price they have posted is a typo, if that's the case forget
>you ever read this.

An observation to yours:  Prices at Dusty tend to be high for some
things, yes.  I *have* to shop there because for many Brazilian artist
recordings, no one can usually match Dusty's selection and/or
availability.  And I found one item for which they are actually charging
less than Amazon.com:  Walter Wanderley's Rain Forest, for $9.99.
Everyplace else it's $11.99.

Also--one has to be REALLY careful what you buy in person either at
thrift stores or at used record shops.  Sometimes even when you give an
LP the once over, things can escape your inspection.  Someone I know paid
$7.00 for an LP that he discovered (only after he got it home) that
someone had left side 1 on a radiator and the first track was totally
melted.  I kid you not.  Although he reports that the rest of the LP
played just fine...

Regards,
--bj
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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest
Date: 02 Feb 2000 19:23:05 -0800


>In a message dated 01/31/2000 11:06:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>[e-mail] writes:

>And Herb Alpert's "Whipped Cream & Other Delights" was selling for
>twenty-five bucks a copy.
>
>And soon after, as it was written in prophecy, the End Time grew nigh and
>the
>4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse rode into town, peddling Mantovani for a
>hundred
>bucks a pop.
>
>May God have mercy on their souls, for they know not what they do,
>-R.G.B.

HA!  I really roared laughing when I read this last statement of yours.
Great message!!!

Regards,
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From: Jim Gerwitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More for Magnus
Date: 02 Feb 2000 21:04:57 -0800


Magnus Sandberg wrote:
> ...please make some suggestions on three new great
>reissues that i can get from an internet dealer like
>dustygroove or JD or amazon. I need something
different and weird and funny. Or something thats so sweet it
>just hurts. Maybe a french one, and a brasilian...>

After a few days scanning digests, I've compiled a few of the list's
recent faves - by title, (label) artist:

1. Uneasy Tempo Vol 11: Exotica Girls Like Ear-Splitting Music -
(WinoRed) - V/A incl. Yma Sumac, Florence Foster Jenkins, Mrs. Miller,
Jeannete McDonald, Diamanda Galas & Minnie Riperton
2. Metal Machine Music for Mamie - (Ike Records) The Three Suns
3. OST - The Incredible Shrinking Women - (Purge) with Calista Flockhart
& Lara Flynn Boyle
4. 250 Miles An Hour On The Rims- The Jerry Rooyden Funk Mixes
(Roadblock Records) - James Brown
5. Lemon Incest (Taboo Records)  Frank & Nancy Sinatra
6. You Make Me Feel like A Nat Woman (Sunshine or Soft? Records) v/a 72
minutes of ba ba da ba by Mel Tillis, Barbara Walters & others
7. Deneuve, Bardot, Fonda,Fondle: The Bedroom Tapes (bootleg?)  Roger
Vadim
8. Best of Grateful Dead Unplugged (RCA Dying Stereo) - Dr. Jack
Kevorkian
9. Calvert DeForest's Erotic Experience (Martini Records) - Calvert
DeForest aka Larry "Bud" Melman from Letterman gets some!
10. The Three Tenors Live at CBGBs - (Enough Already Records) with Tom
Waits, Hasil Adkins, & John Lithgow
11. World Wrestling Federation Hits Vol 5 - (Smackdown Records)v/a incl
The Gentle People, The Wusses, The Wimps, The Pussies, the Twits & The
Eunuchs
12. Divas 2000 Groove the Best of Blowfly (Tinnitus Records) - by Divas
2000 incl La Barbra, Jennifer Love, Rupaul, Kathie Lee G. & Nathan Lane
13. The Complete works of Carol Kaye & Hal Blaine (Bear Family Records)
7,249 Cd set, over 217,000 songs in special collectors mobile home.

These should keep you busy, but because of brisk sales only one of the
above is still available on the net.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) 101 Strings
Date: 03 Feb 2000 00:12:27 EST


I need to ask the audience on this one, using one of my lifelines.

The Scamp Astro Sounds CD has a coupla bonus tracks, Whiplash and Instant
Nirvana that must come from a reocrd other than "Sounds Of Love" (adult
contemporary series with Bebe Bardon on cover) and "Sounds Of Today" (Karma
Sitar, pyschedelic cover).

What is the title of this LP and why is it so damn hard to find?

You guys know the record I'm talking about?  Anybody got a copy for CD-R
trade or purchase?  I'll pay $$$.

If you can't help me out, I'll need to use my other lifeline, "call a
friend".  Get Ashley on the line, please.

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From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica)The Conet Project
Date: 03 Feb 2000 00:27:10 -0500



Peter G wrote:
>my friend was wondering about this. Its a collection of shortwave
>transmissions used by spies and such...

>[...]
>http://www.foundrysite.com/i.conet.html
>
>Has anyone actually heard this stuff?

Yes indeed. If you tune between the broadcast bands with a shortwave
radio, it actually is not that uncommon to hear them. But all the
ones I've experienced are the more vanilla types, where someone (or
more likely, a voice synthesizer) robotically reads groups of
numbers--perhaps punctuated by a dramatic flourish like saying "end"
at the end.

There are various fanciful unproved or semi-proved theories about
their origins, but it seems indisputable that they are passing some
kind of clandestine messages in code.

your former shortwave geek,
  --Ross

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From: "mofo2148" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Benito Urghu - Sexy Fonni
Date: 03 Feb 2000 03:05:27 -0800


Has anyone on this list heard of "Benito Urghu" and a song he did
called "Sexy Fonni"?

I'm playing it next week on my radio show, but wanted to get more info
if possible... and what better place to ask than here.

It's a Very Very Hip Cut. With Benito shouting and talking in Italian
and a woman moaning and saying, "je t'aime...." (among other words).
Italian meets French erotic lounge music with the kind of easy funky
bassline you can groove to.

Is Fritz Jonker on this list?  If you are please contact me regarding
this cut... I heard it on one of your compilation tapes.

thanks all,

Otis

Mr. Otis F-Odder
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Soothing Sounds
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:48:39 +0000


Peter Risser wrote:

> Someone mentioned that Soothing Sounds for Baby is a
> re-release.  Had this thing actually seen the light of
> day when Scott first made it?  Is it a re-release?

I think so; however it is very problematic to feature it for your Kahuna Award
in the category "Best new album"... even if it wasn't released before, it's
definitely not *new*.

I didn't find all my favorite things in your nominee's list...

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Subject: (exotica) Re: The Conet Project!
Date: 03 Feb 2000 22:56:23 +1100


>>Has anyone actually heard this stuff?

>>pg

Yep!  My best buddy got the set, and from the five discs (read: Too Much of
a Good Thing!) I compiled a fanastic 70 minutes onto one CD.  It is indeed
otherworldly, and one of the truly effective late late night audio discs I
own.  It's totally mystifying and makes you realize that the world is very
big and very deep go its secrets.

Again, I'd only recommend the whole set if this sounds immensely compelling
to you (the packaging is great and well annotated)...otherwise, hunt out a
best friend who'll lend it to you!!

Also on the same UK-based label (name escapes me) is "The Ghost Orchid: An
Introduction to EVP".  This CD will make your skin crawl and is by far the
most creepy listen you could ask for.  EVP stands for "Electronic Voice
Phenomena" or put simply, voices from the dead speaking through radios.
It's been called 'The Conet Project from beyond the grave!'  You can read
reviews of the CD here:

http://parc.web.fm/december/evpreviews.htm

I'd highly recommend it; but it won't get lots of playing time, unless you
surreptitiously pop it into a multi-disc shuffle-play at your friend's next
party.

PS: If you've got the Stereolab "Transient Random Noisebursts..." record,
you can hear a snippet from a voice from the Conet Project on the tune
"Pause."

Ciao,

Keith

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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:07:43 +0100




m p 3 FREE-FOR-ALL

The tiny Napster is shaking the music industry to its foundation.


Napster the software program -- a downloadable application that
lets users temporarily turn their computers into servers for the
purpose of swapping MP3 files -- is growing faster than anyone
could have imagined. To add to the excitement, Napster the
company is now embroiled in a lawsuit with the notorious
Recording Industry Association of America.


http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/02/03/napster/index.html





PS

Money, money, money: Swedish '70s superstars ABBA have
turned down a $1 billion offer to reunite and go on tour. "It is a
hell of a lot of money to say no to, but we decided it wasn't for
us," Benny Andersson told the Swedish paper Aftonbladet. His
fellow band member Bjorn Ulvaeus agreed, "We have never
made a comeback. Almost everyone else has. I think there is a
message in that."


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) A Sun story from Brad Bigelow
Date: 03 Feb 2000 04:54:11 -0800 (PST)


Brad Bigelow thought you might be interested in this
Las Vegas Sun (http://www.lasvegassun.com/) story:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/archives/2000/feb/02/509794326.html

Message from sender:
Another sad passing--Si Zentner dead at 82.

Brad
-------------------------

==================================================================

Famous trombonist, band leader dies in Las Vegas

 ASSOCIATED PRESS
Trombonist Si Zentner, who started a highly
successful big band years after the era had passed, died Monday at
a Las Vegas hospital.

   He was 82.

   A Las Vegan the past 35 years, Zentner became well-known when he
recorded the hit "Up A Lazy River" in 1961. He went on to record
more than 30 albums and hundreds of songs for Liberty Records.

   He was frequently book at Disneyland's Carnation Plaza Gardens
during a 25-year span.

   Born Simon Hugh Zentner June 13, 1917, the Brooklyn, N.Y. native
played with the bands of Les Brown and Jimmy Dorsey before settling
in Los Angeles as a session musician.

   In 1958 he began to rehearse his own big band, ignoring the fact
that ballrooms were closing around the country and that Elvis
Presley and Buddy Holly already had transformed the nation's teens
into rock'n'rollers.

   Using a revised version of "Lazy River," Zenter recorded what
he called "the first big-band record you could twist to." The
song became a Top 40 hit and a Grammy Award winner.

   Zentner recorded hundreds of songs for Liberty, continuing his
knack for recasting contemporary hits into a big-band sound aimed
at older ears. During the James Bond craze he reworked the movies'
themes, and when the Beatles exploded, he recorded a swinging
version of "I Want to Hold Your Hand."

   At one point, Zentner claimed to have played 178 one-nighters
without a night off.

   In 1965, Zentner moved to Las Vegas and his band played at the
Tropicana's Blue Room. He later became conductor for the "Folies
Bergere" show.

   He continued to perform at various Las Vegas venues and in
California.

   Zentner had battled leukemia the past two years.

   He is survived by a son, Howard Zentner of Sandpoint, Idaho, and
a daughter, Linda Berrow of Palmdale, Calif.

   No services are planned.




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From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: The Conet Project!
Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:33:59 +0000


>Also on the same UK-based label (name escapes me) is

it's Ash International, "distributed" by Touch
http://www.touch.demon.co.uk/ashrip.htm


>"The Ghost Orchid: An
>Introduction to EVP".  This CD will make your skin crawl and is by far the
>most creepy listen you could ask for.  EVP stands for "Electronic Voice
>Phenomena" or put simply, voices from the dead speaking through radios.
>It's been called 'The Conet Project from beyond the grave!'  You can read
>reviews of the CD here:
>http://parc.web.fm/december/evpreviews.htm


and here:
http://motion.state51.co.uk/reviews/413.html



>I'd highly recommend it; but it won't get lots of playing time, unless you
>surreptitiously pop it into a multi-disc shuffle-play at your friend's next
>party.

and it's great to dj with, mixed ...

cheers,
dan.



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From: "Phil Clark" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fw: Be a Little Devil This Valentine
Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:27:40 -0000


for all you londoners, dougee from the gentle people is hosting a nite on
feb 12th : details follow


> Be a little devil this Valentine's Tasty Treat!
>
> It's the long awaited return of Tasty Treat, at our faboo new venue "Club
29."
>
> Check into this love vibration and make that Valentine's Connection while
> grooving to those sexy sounds provided by your DJ host Dougee Dimensional
(Gentle People)
> plus special CD set by Agent Cooper, and many more surprises!
>
> The Date:Saturday the 12th of February 2000AD
> The Time:9pm to late
> The Place:Club 29, 29 Maddox Street London W1 (Oxford Circus Tube)
> The Price: 3 English Pounds donation for this one off private party!
>
> Email:[e-mail] for more info.
>
> PS: Look for the transparent door!!!
> Ciao and hope to see ya all there!
>
> Dougee Dimensional
> The Gentle People




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Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:03:45 EST


In a message dated 02/03/2000 7:09:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Napster the software program -- a downloadable application that
 lets users temporarily turn their computers into servers for the
 purpose of swapping MP3 files -- is growing faster than anyone
 could have imagined. To add to the excitement, Napster the
 company is now embroiled in a lawsuit with the notorious
 Recording Industry Association of America.
  >>

Very interesting.

Some 19 year old makes a computer program and he knows from the start that
80-90% of the people using it are using it for the distribution of copywrite
infringing material and then as an afterthought he thinks that in rare
instances his product can be used for the legal distribution of music. Now
he's got an entire company behind him and investors a plenty trying to figure
out how they can create an atmosphere of propriety for this bootlegging
software and start shoveling in the profit.

God Bless America where people will rally behind you for being a creative
thief!!!

And soon after, as it was written in prophecy, the End Time grew nigh and
the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse rode into town and they told the people that
every thief was Robin Hood and the people believed and the dark clouds rolled
in and we all turned to cannibalism instead of visiting McDonalds.

(it's not an old joke, now it's a running gag)

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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) More Tekkie Talk
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:11:16 -0500


Nate wrote:

> Anyone familiar with the Tascam CDRW-700 CD recorder??
> It's on sale for $549.00
Tascam makes upper end, semi-pro products. The CD players in
our station are Tascams. They also make mixers, multi-track
recorders etc. and (should be) a cut above the usual home market
products like Pioneer, Sony etc. thus the higher price. I assume
this is a stand alone unit.  What I'd like to know is would a more
expensive unit make a better CD copy?  If all things digital are
exact copies then in theory aren't they all the same?  I was told by
a tekkie type here that the playability of a recorderd CDR on an
older player is not always related to the colour of the blank but to
the burner that made it.  This may expalin why some blue discs
work fine for me but others don't at all. Someday I'm going to buy a
burner. I was told the Yamaha is the best of the lot for computer
units but I'd be curious to know how this Tascam is rated against
other domestic variety stand alone units.

> Also on sale is a gemini turntable for $170 - "direct drive" - does this =
> mean it doesn't rely on a belt to turn the platter??
That's correct. The motor/spindle is all one piece. Gemini makes
DJ stuff so I don't think this high ens audio somehow. Beware
though, the advantage of the belt is no motor noise can be
transferred through, and I believe most high end audio types insist
on belt drive.  I have this old Ariston Audio belt drive turntable and I
scoured the world to find a belt a few years back.  The company is
from Scotland and long closed up. I lucked out in Boston with a
store having one left of old stock .  It's now time for a new one and I
don't know where to start! If anyone has a source for a belt for an
Ariston Audio - RD 11s, preferably in North America, I'd appreciate
the info.

Thanks,


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:12:30 -0500




|
| In a message dated 02/03/2000 7:09:31 AM Eastern Standard Time,
| [e-mail] writes:
|
| << Napster the software program -- a downloadable application that
|  lets users temporarily turn their computers into servers for the
|  purpose of swapping MP3 files -- is growing faster than anyone
|  could have imagined. To add to the excitement, Napster the
|  company is now embroiled in a lawsuit with the notorious
|  Recording Industry Association of America.
|   >>
|
| Very interesting.
|
| Some 19 year old makes a computer program and he knows from the start that
| 80-90% of the people using it are using it for the distribution of
copywrite
| infringing material and then as an afterthought he thinks that in rare
| instances his product can be used for the legal distribution of music. Now
| he's got an entire company behind him and investors a plenty trying to
figure
| out how they can create an atmosphere of propriety for this bootlegging
| software and start shoveling in the profit.
|
| God Bless America where people will rally behind you for being a creative
| thief!!!

Their logic is that if a company makes something that the majority of users
use for illegal reasons, they can sue the maker of that product, instead of
each individual who uses it illegally. This being the case, why don't they
sue makers of CD burners? Or how about makers of tape recorders? I would say
that the vast majority of people who use the "record" feature on any tape
deck use it to make copies of their music (mix tapes and such), which is the
exact same crime as copying MP3 files.

What they're really pissed about is that they think they've created such
great security for all these things so people will never again be able to
copy their media. When it turns out that its not so secure anymore, they
turn into little brats and sue everyone in sight. They need to accept that
they will never be able to stop piracy. They can only go after the
individual pirates.

JOSH






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Subject: (exotica) Si Zentner passes
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:14:59 EST


Si Zentner

LAS VEGAS (AP) - Si Zentner, the Trombonist who started a highly successful
big band years after the era had passed, died Monday. He was 82.

Zentner became well-known when he recorded the hit ``Up A Lazy River'' in
1961. He went on to record more than 30 albums and hundreds of songs for
Liberty Records.

He played with the bands of Les Brown and Jimmy Dorsey before settling in Los
Angeles as a session musician.

Using a revised version of ``Lazy River,'' Zenter recorded what he called
``the first big-band record you could twist to.'' The song became a Top 40
hit and a Grammy Award winner.

Zentner recorded hundreds of songs for Liberty, continuing his knack for
recasting contemporary hits into a big-band sound aimed at older ears. During
the James Bond craze he reworked the movies' themes, and when the Beatles
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From: Peter Gingerich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Conet Project Hoax?//Ghost Orchid
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:29:04 -0500


GHOST ORCHID  An Introduction to EVP
       (Ash International R.I.P.)   14.98
       Essentially, The Conet Project From Beyond The Grave!!
       Huh? Peter Becker, who used to work for Asphodel (R.I.P.), has
presented an interesting theory that
The Conet Project (the awesome 4 cd documentation of shortwave radio
"numbers stations") was nothing
more than an elaborate hoax. While we think that he's mistaken and that
plenty of evidence points to the
validity of The Conet Project, here is a far more questionable recording,
because you've got to believe in
ghosts rather than a more corporeal conspiracy...
       The Ghost Orchid documents instances of something called "Electronic
Voice Phenomenon", the
paranormal appearance of strange voices (which at times sing and speak in
multiple languages) on magnetic
tape when there shouldn't be any voices there at all... Respected
parapsychologists have postulated that these
voices are those of dead people (i.e. ghosts) or possibly of
extraterrestrial origin! Unlike The Conet Project,
which cross referenced the audio tracks with written information, The Ghost
Orchid presents these
recordings with the audio commentary of one of several researchers (Nadia
Fowler, Raymond Cass, and Lief
Elggren - the Swedish performance/audio artist and a part time collaborator
with the Hafler Trio), explaining
the findings. These recordings are the findings of a number of
parapsychologists including Dr. Konstantine
Raudive, Friedrich Jurgenson, and Raymond Cass.
       While there is something wholly terrifying about these recordings,
there is an absurd question about
these ghostly voices that we have to ask...Why are the majority of these
recordings in Latvian? Our resident
Latvian, Byram, is unable to answer this question...but perhaps we will
hear from him in the afterlife...at any
rate, The Ghost Orchid manages to be both spooky and silly, and is
definitely a fascinating listen from a pure
sound perspective regardless of how disturbing and/or amusing you might
find the alleged sound source
itself...you might laugh at the voice of "Winston Churchill", for instance,
spouting nonsense from the
netherworld, but it's still a gripping, dark sound document.
       A word of caution, Jim's copy of this cd disappeared from its case
on the Aquarius counter-top at
6:35PM on 5/8/99 and reappeared in puddle of ectoplasmic goo at 3:20 PM on
5/9/99. Haunting.





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Subject: (exotica) [obits]Gary E. Cooper,Alex Kapral,Si Zentner,Willie B.,Lin Halliday
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:32:29 -0500


    ROANOKE, Va. (AP) -- Gary E. Cooper, a longtime Roanoke radio
personality, died Tuesday of an apparent heart attack. He was 62.
    Cooper spent 38 years as host of ``Swap Shop'' on WRIS until his
retirement in May. On ``Swap Shop,'' people call to buy, sell or
trade their personal belongings. Callers give a brief description
of what they have to offer and leave a telephone number.
    From 1965 to 1981, Cooper made announcements at the Lee-Hi
Drive-In.
    He spent three years in the Army before returning to Roanoke to
work at WROV and later WRIS.
----
                            *Alex Kapral
    TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- Alex Kapral, whose 150 patents included a
quick-release glue used for diapers and name tags, died Jan. 23. He
was 92.
    Kapral, a chemist who once wanted to be an actor, helped save
the Czech Republic's sugar beet industry when it was thrown into
doldrums by sugar cane.
    Beet growers had produced a low-priced livestock feed that
proved popular among people. In 1931, Kapral found a way to make it
repulsive to people while still palatable to animals. That won him
a top post at Biochema Corp., a Czechoslovakian agricultural
chemical company.
    He was the company's managing director in 1942 when he was
arrested by the Nazis for aiding the Allied effort. Kapral's wife,
Zdena, the daughter of a sugar beet farmer Kapral had met through
his work, managed to free Kapral through underground channels about
a year later.
    They moved to India in 1947 for a job but left for Australia
when civil war broke out and later immigrated to the United States.
He opened his own chemical engineering company in Chicago in 1957,
pioneering an additive that kept cement from sticking to molds.
    After a number of other inventions, he devised a quick-curing
silicone-release adhesive coating in 1969 while repairing a gumming
machine at a paper mill in Menasha, Wis. He then bought the mill,
renaming it Akrosil Corp.
-----
                            *Si Zentner
    LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Si Zentner, the Trombonist who started a highly
successful big band years after the era had passed, died Monday. He
was 82.
    Zentner became well-known when he recorded the hit ``Up A Lazy
River'' in 1961. He went on to record more than 30 albums and
hundreds of songs for Liberty Records.
    He played with the bands of Les Brown and Jimmy Dorsey before
settling in Los Angeles as a session musician.
    Using a revised version of ``Lazy River,'' Zenter recorded what
he called ``the first big-band record you could twist to.'' The
song became a Top 40 hit and a Grammy Award winner.
    Zentner recorded hundreds of songs for Liberty, continuing his
knack for recasting contemporary hits into a big-band sound aimed
at older ears. During the James Bond craze he reworked the movies'
themes, and when the Beatles exploded, he recorded a swinging
version of ``I Want to Hold Your Hand.''
--
From the Las Vegas Sun:


Big-band leader Zentner dies at 82

Jazz trombonist made 30 albums, performed for 3 decades in LV
By Ed Koch
<[e-mail]>
LAS VEGAS SUN

In 1968 Si Zentner and his Orchestra burst into "Up a Lazy River" for the
overture to the "Folies Bergere" at the Tropicana hotel.

Jazz fans in the audience would smile, for they knew that the Hoagy
Carmichael classic was not part of the French-themed cancan show, but rather
was a No. 1 instrumental hit for famed jazz trombonist Zentner nine years
earlier.

"We only did it for a short time because we figured people knew who Si was
and would appreciate it," said Maynard Sloate, the former Tropicana
entertainment director.

"Si had a recognizable sound. While Tommy Dorsey was a mellow trombonist, Si
was robust. He was unique and certainly well respected."

Si Zentner, who performed with the Les Brown, Jimmy Dorsey and MGM Studios
orchestras and later as a bandleader and musician won two Grammy awards,
died Sunday of leukemia at the University Medical Center. He was 82.

There will be no services for the Las Vegas resident of 35 years. Valley
Memorial Cremation is handling the arrangements.

"Si had such a great command of the instrument -- he was a superb, talented
man," said retired jazz saxophonist "Doc" Randal Grilott, who was performing
with the Bob Crosby band when he met Zentner in 1939 and became his longtime
friend.

"He could play everything from jazz to symphony. Si always had a desire to
take his music to higher levels."

Chuck Diamond, a veteran musician and bassist for the Royal Dixie Jazz Band,
said: "Si was an incredible musician whether in the studio or onstage. He
was a champion guy."

Zentner moved to Las Vegas in 1965, the year Sloate hired him and his
then-road orchestra to back up Mel Torme at the opening of the Tropicana's
Blue Room, a 500-seat lounge.

Three years later Zentner was music director for the "Folies Bergere," a
position he held until 1971. For the next 29 years he performed regularly in
Las Vegas and worldwide.

"While trombonists were not known much for their longevity in the business,
Si was an exception," said longtime Sun entertainment columnist Joe Delaney.
"And he was even playing well to the end of his career."

Zentner last performed at a musicians convention at a Strip resort last
July.

Born Simon H. Zentner on June 13, 1917, in New York City, Zentner started
learning the violin at age 4 but soon switched to the trombone.

He began his professional career as a classical musician but in the late
1930s switched to more commercially popular music. In 1940 he joined Les
Brown's band and a few years later became a member of the Jimmy Dorsey band.

From 1949 to 1955 Zentner was a member of the MGM band. His trombone can be
heard in the classic motion pictures "A Star is Born" and "Singing in the
Rain."

In 1957 Zentner started his band, which won 13 straight Downbeat Jazz polls.
Zentner also was named 11 times to the annual Playboy Jazz Readers' Poll
all-star band.

In 1959 Zentner got a contract with Liberty Records and that year released
five albums -- "Thinking Man's Band," "Big Band Plays Big Hits,"
"Desafinado," "The Stripper and Other Big Band Hits" and "Up a Lazy River,"
which produced the hit. single.

During his career Zentner made 30 albums, including "Si Zentner & His
Orchestra, Alive in Las Vegas" in 1992.

From the 1970s through the '90s Zentner and his band performed at major
resorts, on cruise ships and at colleges, including UNLV and the Community
College of Southern Nevada.

He was a member of the Masons and numerous music unions throughout the
United States. He was a past vice president of the Musicians Local 369 in
Las Vegas.

He was working on his memoirs at the time of his death, friends said.

Zentner is survived by a son, Howard Zentner of Sandpoint, Idaho; a
daughter, Linda Berrow of Palmdale, Calif.; and five grandchildren.
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http://www.personal.riverusers.com/~debed/guitmag.htm

Look for these videos:
Meet the bandleaders. [videorecording]. v.102, Harry James, Ray
 McKinley, Si Zentner. Indianapolis, IN: Kartes Video Communications,
 c1984. (52 min.)
THE BIG BANDS: HARRY JAMES, RAY MC KINLEY, SI ZENTNER, RALPH MARTERIE, M 1365 .H3, 1965 54 min.

----
                             *Willie B.
    ATLANTA (AP) -- Willie B., the Zoo Atlanta gorilla who spent 27
years in isolation with only a caretaker and a television for
company before being introduced to other gorillas and finally
becoming a father, died Wednesday. He was 41.
    Willie had been sick since early January, when he caught the flu
and then contracted pneumonia, which caused stress on his heart.
    The silverback gorilla, named for former Atlanta Mayor William
B. Hartsfield, was captured in Africa and spent more than two
decades in a concrete-and-steel-bars cage at the former
Atlanta-Fulton County Zoo. Besides a caretaker, his only companion
was a TV set on a shelf in the corner of the cage. He played on a
tire swing.
    Willie was one of the first gorillas released into the new
habitat in early 1988.
---
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-g-kane.html
Gil Kane's NYTimes obit
---
Chicago Tenor Saxophonist Lin Halliday Dies At 63
Tenor saxophonist Lin Halliday, who started his professional career in the
late 1950s but wouldn't achieve wider notoriety until later in life, died
Tuesday (Jan. 25) in Chicago of natural causes. He was 63.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:41:07 EST


In a message dated 02/03/2000 10:14:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< This being the case, why don't they
 sue makers of CD burners? Or how about makers of tape recorders? I would say
 that the vast majority of people who use the "record" feature on any tape
 deck use it to make copies of their music (mix tapes and such), which is the
 exact same crime as copying MP3 files. >>

I don't think it's as much about the copying, as it is about the free and
instantaneous dissemination of the music.  To use a CD burner, tape recorder,
VCR, mini disc player you need to buy blanks and you need to physically pass
the copy on to another person.  It's a time consuming and costly way to
spread music. So I don't think it poses so much of a worry.

Software like Napster allow a shitload of people access to the music fast and
at little to no cost in time or recording media.  That's what scares the
record company folks, understandably.  And with the growth of high bandwidth
cable modems people can send better then CD quality mp3s along with all the
linernotes and graphics from the CD, in a couple of minutes.

Like I've said before, I'm glad the folks on this list are into piracy the
old fashion way.  Not on a global level, but on a case by case basis.:-)(-:

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Subject: (exotica) Be a Little Devil This Valentine
Date: 03 Feb 2000  14:16:48 +0000


Be a little devil this Valentine's Tasty Treat!

It's the long awaited return of Tasty Treat, at our faboo new venue "Club 29."

Check into this love vibration and make that Valentine's Connection while
grooving to those sexy sounds provided by your DJ host Dougee Dimensional (Gentle People)
plus special CD set by Agent Cooper, and many more surprises!

The Date:Saturday the 12th of February 2000AD
The Time:9pm to late
The Place:Club 29, 29 Maddox Street London W1 (Oxford Circus Tube)
The Price: 3 English Pounds donation for this one off private party!

Email:[e-mail] for more info.

PS: Look for the transparent door!!!
Ciao and hope to see ya all there!

Dougee Dimensional
The Gentle People

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 08:41:55 -0800


>Their logic is that if a company makes something that the majority of users
>use for illegal reasons, they can sue the maker of that product, instead of
>each individual who uses it illegally. This being the case, why don't they
>sue makers of CD burners? Or how about makers of tape recorders? I would say
>that the vast majority of people who use the "record" feature on any tape
>deck use it to make copies of their music (mix tapes and such), which is the
>exact same crime as copying MP3 files.

Not only that, but swapping an MP3 file with someone privately via email
isn't illegal in and of itself; it's the same thing as trading a tape or
CD-R with someone.  If there is no money involved in the trade, copyright
issues aren't involved.  It's only in the public broadcast of said file
(as in downloading or streaming from a server that has connected links to
a public accessible website or in charging money for copies that's a
direct violation, AFAIA).

>What they're really pissed about is that they think they've created such
>great security for all these things so people will never again be able to
>copy their media. When it turns out that its not so secure anymore, they
>turn into little brats and sue everyone in sight. They need to accept that
>they will never be able to stop piracy. They can only go after the
>individual pirates.

When I was in contact with someone who is a computer programming and
technology engineer by trade, he used to tell me stories of how it
doesn't matter what a company comes up with, there will always be
codebreakers and people who can reverse engineer a product out there and
that it's really a tremendous waste of money, time, and effort to think
you are actually going to stop these folks!

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest-record buys
Date: 03 Feb 2000 10:58:26 -0500


At 7:23 PM 2/2/0, B.J. Major wrote:

>Also--one has to be REALLY careful what you buy in person either at
>thrift stores or at used record shops.  Sometimes even when you give an
>LP the once over, things can escape your inspection.

Yeah I did a really stupid thing recently. Found a great Hawaiian record at
a used shop, $7. Did the usual anal retentive check of the vinyl: no
scratches, gouges, mildew stains, oily fingerprints, beer splatters,
warping--pretty clean. Even went through the routine with the shop owner.

Brought it home very excited, spun it, and whoa! a march. Not only a march
but the march Stars and Stripes Forever, a tune that's utterly obnoxious to
me. Not even a performance of it on ukes could redeem it. No Caravan or
Moon of Manakoora, the tracks that got me so geeked when I spotted the
record in the bin. Checked the inner label: same artist, same band, same
record co, different LP. The shop owner was utterly great about taking it
back.

Sometimes you're so busy looking for one problem that another one bites yer
butt.

BTW, Dan Hill, will send an update of Austin record stores shortly. Am
buried right now with some short deadline projects.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 08:55:39 -0800


>Software like Napster allow a shitload of people access to the music fast
>and
>at little to no cost in time or recording media.

But even if you don't own a CD burner, there is still cost in the
software you must buy to rip tracks from a CD, then encode them into MP3
(at least, I had to pay for mine, they were not free).

Regards,
--bj
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Subject: Re: (exotica) More Tekkie Talk
Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:11:56 -0500


At 10:11 AM 2/3/0, Brian Karasick wrote:
 I have this old Ariston Audio belt drive turntable and I
>scoured the world to find a belt a few years back. ...If anyone has a
>source for a belt for an
>Ariston Audio - RD 11s, preferably in North America, I'd appreciate
>the info.

Try http://www.needledoctor.com in Minneapolis, 800.229.0644, email
[e-mail]. They specialize in styluses but stock all kinds of
supplies for older audio equipment. Hope this helps, Brian. You'll pay full
price. And you'll probably need to talk with them to get your belt. If they
don't stock it, they can probably recommend an alternative.  Mimi




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Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:00:05 -0500


>CD-R with someone.  If there is no money involved in the trade, >copyright issues aren't involved.  It's only in the public broadcast


Money has nothing to do with whether copyright is involved.  You can violate copyright even you don't distribute it in any way (such as photocopying a book in the library or taping an album owned by a friend).  It will however bear on any damages or remedies.

LT


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Subject: (exotica) MacDonald & Associates
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:14:22 -0500


You gotta check out the holdings of this film archive!
I wish I was a member of the "professional creative community" so
I actually see some of these items, instead of just drooling over
the listings!

http://www.macfilms.com/musictoc.htm

---
Welcome to MacDonald & Associates, an historical film archive of extraordinary
scope. Come and view a Century of Film, a tour of all aspects of the Twentieth
Century as preserved on motion pictures. We have it all--the bizarre and
mundane, the noble and infamous--politics, medicine, sports, family life, travel, newsreels, animated
cartoons, musical performance, war, popular culture, television, radio, advertising, etc., etc.--indeed, the
fullness of civilization in the age of the movie camera. If you seek to visualize aspects of the human
experience, allow us to be of assistance.

MacDonald & Associates ¡ Profile
MacDonald & Associates makes its film holdings available to the professional creative
community. We do not sell to the general public. Instead, we serve the wide spectrum of media
communicators--from TV producers and documentary makers, to advertising agencies,
museum exhibitors, and feature film directors. Be it a single stock shot or a collection of
subject-specific films, MacDonald & Associates' footage helps you convey your ideas.

As well as our master materials on film, we maintain a Vintage Audio Archive. Spanning more
than a century of recorded sound, our inventory consists of 40,000 hours of radio programs,
speeches, interviews, and vintage musical performances. Our clients often find advantage in
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Subject: Re: (exotica) A point of interest-record buys
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:14:55 EST


>>Brought it home very excited, spun it, and whoa! a march.(edit) Checked the
inner label: same artist, same band, same record co, different LP. The shop
owner was utterly great about taking it back.<<

Not long ago I was in a local used record store.  Found an LP I had been
searching for, but when I pulled out the album to inspect it I had a similar
experience.  Same artist and label, but different album.

Being a nice guy I pointed this out to the owner, and suggested that he
should pull it from the shelf, and hold onto it as he might come across the
correct cover.  He thanked me.

Next time I went in the record was back on the shelf.  I checked it and sure
enough it still had the wrong LP inside.  I guess he was hoping someone less
observant than me would buy it by mistake.

Larry


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Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:16:27 EST


In a message dated 2/3/00 11:57:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< At 10:11 AM 2/3/0, Brian Karasick wrote:
  I have this old Ariston Audio belt drive turntable and I
 >scoured the world to find a belt a few years back. ...If anyone has a
 >source for a belt for an
 >Ariston Audio - RD 11s, preferably in North America, I'd appreciate
 >the info. >>

Also try garage-a-record. They have a great supply of no longer manufactured
turntable items.
http://www.garage-a-records.com/

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Subject: Re: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 09:21:00 -0800


>>CD-R with someone.  If there is no money involved in the trade, >copyright
>issues aren't involved.  It's only in the public broadcast
>
>
>Money has nothing to do with whether copyright is involved.  You can
>violate copyright even you don't distribute it in any way (such as
>photocopying a book in the library or taping an album owned by a friend).
>It will however bear on any damages or remedies.

I'm not aware of any infringement in taping an album YOU own, then
trading that tape with a friend who has taped an album of THEIR own.

And although I understand what you are referring to with photocopying
books in libraries, etc., money *is* an issue where music copying is
concerned for the reason that there are license fees to be paid when it's
something that's done publicly (not privately).

The whole thing is a can of worms mess!  And there are already more
lawsuits than all of the courts can handle on this issue.

Regards,
--bj
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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) MacDonald & Associates
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:44:16 -0500


The MacDonald and Associates archive sure is droolable --  but with so
much of that stuff already in the Public Domain, and more to fall there soon,
and with all the things in individual collections that could be
digitized and linked together, I suspect a lot of this stuff will be
available to
anyone in the next few years.

Will


Will Straw
Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications
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Subject: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:46:47 -0500


http://www.clubnet.com.hk/ipclub/links/links.shtml

Here's a link site that'll keep all y'all into Intellectual Property
busy for a while.

From the WIPO (world Internet Property Site) site, we learn:

Copyright protection generally means that certain uses of the work are lawful only if
they are done with the authorization of the owner of the copyright. The most typical are
the following: the right to copy or otherwise reproduce any kind of work; the right to
distribute copies to the public; the right to rent copies of at least certain categories of
works (such as computer programs and audiovisual works); the right to make sound
recordings of the performances of literary and musical works; the right to perform in
public, particularly musical, dramatic or audiovisual works; the right to communicate to
the public by cable or otherwise the performances of such works and, particularly, to
broadcast, by radio, television or other wireless means, any kind of work; the right to
translate literary works; the right to rent, particularly, audiovisual works, works
embodied in phonograms and computer programs; the right to adapt any kind of work
and particularly the right to make audiovisual works thereof.

Under some national laws, some of these rights-which together are referred to as
"economic rights"-are not exclusive rights of authorization but, in certain specific cases,
merely rights to remuneration; such is the case, in certain countries and under certain
circumstances, for the right to make sound recordings of musical works and the right to
broadcast any kinds of works. Some strictly determined uses (for example, quotations,
the use of works by way of illustration for teaching, or the use of articles on political or
economic matters in other newspapers) are completely free, that is, they require neither
the authorization of, nor remuneration for, the owner of the copyright.

In addition to economic rights, authors (whether or not they own the economic rights)
enjoy "moral rights" on the basis of which authors have the right to claim their authorship
and require that their names be indicated on the copies of the work and in connection
with other uses thereof, and they have the right to oppose the mutilation or deformation
of their works.

The owner of copyright may generally transfer his right or may license certain uses of
his work. Moral rights are, however, generally inalienable although their exercise may
be waived by the author.
-----------
BTW, what ever happened to Gray Area Magazine?

-Lou



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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) 101 Strings
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:52:14 -0500


At 12:12 AM 2/3/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>I need to ask the audience on this one, using one of my lifelines.
>
>The Scamp Astro Sounds CD has a coupla bonus tracks, Whiplash and Instant
>Nirvana that must come from a reocrd other than "Sounds Of Love" (adult
>contemporary series with Bebe Bardon on cover) and "Sounds Of Today" (Karma
>Sitar, pyschedelic cover).
>
>What is the title of this LP and why is it so damn hard to find?

I'm not sure what you're asking.  I thought the liner notes for the Astro
Sounds reissue CD said that the bonus tracks were just tracks they recorded
at the time and couldn't fit on the original LP.  I don't think the bonus
tracks, which I think are much better than the original tracks, are on any LP.
As you know, there are strange and even moogy tracks hiding on a bunch of
their LP's.  I discovered one the other day on a record of theirs I'd had
for years.  "Flameout" on Golden Oldies Volume 3.
What makes you think the bonus tracks come from an original LP somewhere?

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Subject: Re: Re: Re: (exotica) 'Holy shit! We are going to sue you.'
Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:10:31 -0500


>I'm not aware of any infringement in taping an album YOU own, then
>trading that tape with a friend who has taped an album of THEIR own.

I've never heard of this being tested in court but it seems likely that this would be held as an infringement.  Before the Home Recordings Act this would have been a clear infringement but since that act allows for consumers to make a copy for personal use then you might argue that this swap with a friend is the same as a transfer of the original albums which is of course completely non-infringing (it's the copying that causes the problems).   I don't see how that argument could hold up since it clearly goes against the intent of the Act but you never know.

LT


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Subject: (exotica) More copyright
Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:13:30 -0500


>In addition to economic rights, authors (whether or not they own the >economic rights) enjoy "moral rights" on the basis of which authors >have the right to claim their authorship

There are no moral rights in US copyright (this was from a Hong Kong website).

LT


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) vinyl cleaning advice wanted
Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:58:26 +0100


i have this LP that has odd stains that could well be the source of quite
some background noise, but i can't get them off. i've tried:

plain distilled water
distilled water + mild dishwasher soap
Nitty Gritty Pure 2
DiscWasher D4
Disco Antistat (probably the same mixture as the 2 previous ones)
isopropyl alcohol

any suggestions for other safe cleaning products i could use?

thanx!

        Johan

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Subject: (exotica) Here's a photo of...
Date: 03 Feb 2000 13:20:02 -0500


the inner exoticat.

http://www.johnlangford.com/gallery/personal_projects/personalindex.html




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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More Tekkie Talk
Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:06:53 -0500


>Tascam makes upper end, semi-pro products. The CD players in
>...
>this is a stand alone unit.  What I'd like to know is would a more
>expensive unit make a better CD copy?  If all things digital are
>exact copies then in theory aren't they all the same?

*Generally* speaking, in this digital era, pro-grade equipment is not saddled with copy-protection schemes. Or it lets you control the copy protection "flags" (off, 1 copy allowed, no copies allowed, etc). Pro gear *should* also have better Analog/Digital/Analog conversion sections, which would indeed make for better sound. And the tradition of beefier construction for pro gear should also hold true.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) vinyl cleaning advice wanted
Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:07:02 -0500


Hi,

the disc doctor's cleaner is most highly recommended!

http://www.discdoc.com/

citizen kafka

Johan Dada Vis wrote:

 i have this LP that has odd stains that could well be the source of
quite
some background noise, but i can't get them off. i've tried:

 plain distilled water
 distilled water + mild dishwasher soap
 Nitty Gritty Pure 2
 DiscWasher D4
 Disco Antistat (probably the same mixture as the 2 previous ones)
 isopropyl alcohol

 any suggestions for other safe cleaning products i could use?

 thanx!

         Johan


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From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Album scanners
Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:16:01 -0800


Does anyone have any successful experience with using scanners on album
covers?

I had initially purchased a pretty cool Canon USB-based 11 x 8 1/2 scanner
(an FB 620U), but pasting two (or four) images together in Photoshop was a
major pain (r.e., light intensities). For general purpose scanning, it was a
dream however. I've found a couple 12 x 17 scanners for ~$200 at CNET, but
due to the paucity of reviews, I am hesitant to go after either of the two
in this price range. Once you stray above the two that go for ~$200, you
jump to the $1200 price range. There is nothing between $200 and $1200.

Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?

Erik
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Here's a photo of...
Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:04:55 -0500


>the inner exoticat.
>
>http://www.johnlangford.com/gallery/personal_projects/personalindex.html

Shoudda added, click on the top right thumbnail.




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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Copyright Myth
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:21:53 -0800 (PST)


Money has nothing to do with copyright violation.
It's a violation of copyright to distribute things,
even if no money changes hands.

For example, John Oswald created Plunderphonics where
he sampled a bunch of stuff, twisted it up and created
pretty much new works.  Then he pressed 1000 CDs and
distributed them for free.

Then the Canadian Recording Artists (or whatever the
Canadian equivalent of the RIAA is) sued the bejeezus
out of him, destroyed the masters, all remaining
copies, forced him to issue a recall and I believe
even destroyed the presses that made them.

No money ever changed hands.

I don't know how much protection you have for home
taping, but I'm pretty sure that making tapes of
albums for people is illegal.  Mixes, maybe not, but I
wouldn't count on it.

Your only saving grace right now is your relative
anonymity.

However, I will say that they shouldn't be suing
Napster.  It's really not his fault that people are
using it to pirate stuff.

If that's the case, they should sue the post office
for all the stuff I've traded with people, as well as
tape and CD manufacturers, audio equipment and so on.

If a guy beats someone to death with a bat, you can't
sue the bat company.

Well, the truth is, you can, and it's a good thing
that the Napster guy (and mp3.com too) has financial
backing to stand up to the RIAAs gorillas.  If it were
you or I, we'd be in trouble and be forced to close
our doors, no matter where the law actually lay.

I only hope they don't get wind of our little tape
ring thing and close us down for trading copies of
forty year old albums that may never see the light of
day.

Peter


PS: If they were smart, they'd set up a sting,
download copyrighted material, get a warrant, and
arrest the folks on the other end.  That'd shut down
Napster pretty quick AND be within the realm of the
law.  But right now, I think this is easier for them.


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From: "B.J.  Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Copyright Myth
Date: 03 Feb 2000 12:57:15 -0800


>Money has nothing to do with copyright violation.
>It's a violation of copyright to distribute things,
>even if no money changes hands.

>I don't know how much protection you have for home
>taping, but I'm pretty sure that making tapes of
>albums for people is illegal.  Mixes, maybe not, but I
>wouldn't count on it.
>
>Your only saving grace right now is your relative
>anonymity.

[snip]

>I only hope they don't get wind of our little tape
>ring thing and close us down for trading copies of
>forty year old albums that may never see the light of
>day.

So, by your own message, it's not ok for others (including myself) to
trade tapes because we're violating copyright, but it's ok for you to do
so because you're part of this "ring"?  If so, I'd like to plead the same
case for myself then, because there are no differences in circumstance.
You can't condemn something that others do and then make a hypocritic
case for yourself to be involved in the same exact thing!  Many tapes and
CD-Rs I trade with others are LP material that have never been released
on CD format in any country.


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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fairlane 66
Date: 03 Feb 2000 18:48:16 -0500


Okay, one of you crime jazz experts...
Last night there was this great show on PBS called "Culture Shock" and they
were talking about attempts to "censor" jazz when it first became popular
in the twenties.
It was pretty interesting, seeing all the obvious parallels between that
censorship movement and others that followed it.
Anyway, eventually jazz becomes the music that's associated with adulthood
and good taste.  And their example of this is a commercial for the Ford
Fairlane 66 which intercuts between the car driving along a country road
and a hepped-up jazz combo playing a cookin' piece of "crime jazz".
Or should I call it "car jazz"?
I know this is obscure but does anyone have any idea who the group is, what
the music is or is there a compilation of "car jazz" and other "advertising
jazz" of the sixties?

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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) vinyl cleaning advice wanted
Date: 03 Feb 2000 18:59:16 -0500


At 01:58 PM 2/3/00 +0100, Johan Dada Vis wrote:
>
>i have this LP that has odd stains that could well be the source of quite
>some background noise, but i can't get them off. i've tried:
>
>plain distilled water
>distilled water + mild dishwasher soap

What kind of dishwasher soap do you use and how do you use it?
In my experience, what we call "The Palmolive Treatment" works better than
any other system, including the discwasher and other vacuum systems.
I've seen it absolutely rescue and resuscitate seemingly unplayable records.
And my friend who has the discwasher still uses the palmolive treatment on
many records before he puts the finishing touches on with the vacuum thingy.
But first, I've had much more success with Palmolive, specifically "Ultra
Palmolive" - and even better if you can find it "Ultra Palmolive Gentle
Hands Formula" (which is clear rather than green) - than with ANY other
dishwashing liquid.
And then how do you apply it? If I really want to go to the wall with a
record, I go around with the wet paper towel and Palmolive a number of
times, then I rinse it with water and then I repeat.  And I push down hard.
It doesn't always work but it does more often than not.

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From: Fish Wich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Copyright Myth
Date: 03 Feb 2000 14:45:58 -0800 (PST)


The RIAA is alleging two different violations of
copyright law on My.mp3.com and Napster.

With My.mp3.com, they are claiming that MP3.com is
directly infringing on copyrights because they have
developed a database of 45,000 sound recordings and
made it available to users without permission of the
copyright holders.  It's important to note that the
RIAA isn't challenging the CD owner's right to make a
MP3 copy of their CD for their own personal use.  The
problem is that the owner of the CD is not the one
physically making the MP3 copy and uploading it to
their my.mp3.com account, it's MP3.com doing it and
that's where the problem lies.  As far as I can see,
it's a pretty clear-cut case that will likely end in
an RIAA victory.

Their case against Napster is based on contributory
copyright infringement rather than direct
infringement.  The issue here is that even though
Napster has no files on its systems, it's providing
the direct link between a user who wants a file and a
user who has the file.  They've built a forum that
connects users and files that otherwise would not have
been in contact and in so doing have made piracy on a
massive scale incredibly simple.  Even the features
and operation of the software support the RIAA's
argument somewhat-- hotlists that show a user's entire
collection of files, the fact that the software was
built specifically for MP3s and no other file types
and even messages (now removed) on the Napster web
site that boasted that any MP3 file one wants can be
found using the service.  Still, the outcome of the
case is by no means certain.
While Napster and especially MP3.com have significant
financial resources to draw upon to fight their
respective lawsuits, those resources pale in
comparison to the RIAA's war chest.  Since lawsuits in
the US often become wars of attrition, it wouldn't be
in the best business interests of Napster or MP3.com
to let the suits drag out indefinitely.

regards,

mark

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Album scanners
Date: 03 Feb 2000 20:26:53 EST


In a message dated 02/03/2000 2:16:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I had initially purchased a pretty cool Canon USB-based 11 x 8 1/2 scanner
 (an FB 620U), but pasting two (or four) images together in Photoshop was a
 major pain (r.e., light intensities). For general purpose scanning, it was a
 dream however. I've found a couple 12 x 17 scanners for ~$200 at CNET, but
 due to the paucity of reviews, I am hesitant to go after either of the two
 in this price range. Once you stray above the two that go for ~$200, you
 jump to the $1200 price range. There is nothing between $200 and $1200.

 Any thoughts/ideas/suggestions?
  >>

Most half way decent graphics progams come with a stitch feature that
perfectly aligns, overlaps and fades the edges of two images made from large
items that are too large to be scanned in a single pass.  I've been using a
program like this and it works fast and easy and the intensity issue doesn't
seem to be a problem since it does some minor correcting for that.  The
software I use came with my $160.00 scanner, so Photo Shop should have a
feature that kicks my software's digital ass.

-R.G.B.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) 101 Strings
Date: 03 Feb 2000 20:59:07 EST


<< I'm not sure what you're asking.  I thought the liner notes for the Astro
 Sounds reissue CD said that the bonus tracks were just tracks they recorded
 at the time and couldn't fit on the original LP.>>

Yes, referred to as "erotic sessions".  One of those three tracks, Karma
Sitar, is on "The Sounds Of Today" album.

<>

I'm with you, I like the bonus tracks better too.

<<What makes you think the bonus tracks come from an original LP somewhere? >>

So far, it's all hearsay.

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New BMG/Spain Henry Mancini releases...
Date: 03 Feb 2000 18:29:28 -0800


For those who might be interested, BMG/Spain has released an additional
nine Henry Mancini CD reissues of his classic LPs.  These CDs were
released in mid-January and are available now.  The releases include
"Music From Mr. Lucky", "Mr. Lucky Goes Latin", "Dear Heart and Other
Songs of Love", "Big Screen, Little Screen", "Brass, Ivory and Strings",
plus four others.

Regards,
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From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ralph sutton
Date: 03 Feb 2000 21:41:18 -0500 (EST)



Sorry if this appears twice, but I think my ISP is having problems...

Anyone have an opinion about the
Ralph Sutton album, Knocked Out Nocturnes?












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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Yoshinori Sunahara
Date: 03 Feb 2000 22:03:23 EST


For those interested in new exotica/lounge influenced music may I toot
Yoshinori Sunahara's horn? I just picked up the "Pan-Am '70" LP and it is
changing my mind about new music. This guy does it all:  fender rhodes
samples on top of beats with pauses and scratch samples,  in-flight e-z
listening, distorted computerized chants, all with an easy listening
sensibility clearly evident. An aural delight with every cut. On Bungalow
(what a mo-fo of a label!)....JB


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From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Omni Hut
Date: 03 Feb 2000 19:14:23 -0800


There is also

Tiki Lounge
4325 E. Apache Street
Tulsa, OK
7415-3203

918-834-1010

Aloha
Otto

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From: tikiman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Taboo This!
Date: 03 Feb 2000 11:36:14 -0800 (PST)



Jim Gerwitz wrote:

> After a few days scanning digests, I've compiled a
few of the list's
> recent faves - by title, (label) artist:
>
>
> 5. Lemon Incest (Taboo Records)  Frank & Nancy
Sinatra

wa wait a minute... we're Taboo Records! we only 2
releases out now... Don
Tiki and Duke Kahanamoku Presents. Please tell me more
about this release...

Mahalo,
Fluid Floyd
Taboo Records
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Blue Note TV
Date: 03 Feb 2000 23:10:44 -0500


Bravo US is rerunning their 2-part documentary on Blue Note Records as a
single unit this weekend. Showings Saturday afternoon, 4:00pm; Early
Sunday, 4:00am; Sunday morning, 11:00am (eastern times). Has some good
stories.


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From: "Kevin Leeeeee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) LIVE365.COM
Date: 03 Feb 2000 21:57:00 MST


sorry if this has been covered but i just wanted to rave about

www.live365.com

it's a web radio thing for anyone to transmit their cd collection or
whatever they feel like unleashing on the public.

try going to the "other" category and see what you find.  it's pretty cool.
anything from hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy radio to j-pop anime music to
techno to exotica to zappa to weirdness to coolness to godknowswhat.  i
guess it's free for anyone to play "DJ" from home.  once i get a computer
i'll be hooking me up to this.

i found a "Basic Hip" station, too (the one and only??):

http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?first=26&genre=other&cur=-35

pretty cool pop sitar 60's garbage.

out,
kevin

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Subject: Re: (exotica) LIVE365.COM
Date: 04 Feb 2000 00:13:30 EST




<< i found a "Basic Hip" station, too (the one and only??): >>

That's me.  Still very early in the experimental stages and suffering growing
pains.

That's a portion of my sitar comp you are hearing, the thing is I don't think
it all uploaded properly, it cuts off.  Definitely lo-fidelity, mono, to keep
the files size down.

I'll get the hang of it, someday, I hope.

Basically, you covert your source material into MP3s, then upload them to
Live365's server.  Fill out the little form with pertinent info and that's
about it.  Nuttin' to it, right?  :)

I love the concept and hope to make it work.




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Breakbeat!
Date: 04 Feb 2000 00:29:51 -0500


I can't say enough about the "Kinky Beats" compilation I managed
to pick up based on Br Cleves recommendation.  Jacknife Lee
cutting up and remaking Jimmy Smith's  "The Cat" is simply
amazing, and another group doing the same to Max Gregor's "Big
Train" is also great. Many others include some reprocessed Bond
sounds. The comp is about 60% new material and the rest original
60's-70's pieces. I don't quite know why it is made up like this but it
is interesting to see if you can tell which ones are new and which
are old. I have my copy out on loan now so I can't provide more info
immediately.

I don't know though, I hear more of this Pop Nouveau which much
of the list is moving toward and sure I like it, but it sounds like an
extension of the late new wave period sound to me.  Maybe it's
because I know this sound so well, but it doesn't grab me quite so
much.... Unlike the breakbeat stuff... which itself isn't radically
new, sampling and remixing having been around a while. All I can
say is if I start liking dance music, it must really be good!  I think
Nat and Allan can relate to this feeling.

I played Ursula 1000 (still one of my favourites) for someone a few
weeks back and he was so impressed by it he nearly left work on
the spot to get a copy. I can only imagine where this can go as it
catches on but really I'd encourage anyone to give this stuff a
listen. Any further recommendations are always welcome!

Still reeling from this new discovery...


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Benito Urgu and other Italian crap! :)
Date: 04 Feb 2000 10:07:38 +0100


Hey Larry!!!
This is a job for Dj Batman... the most Ecl3ctic (and -er- trashy) dj in
the World!! !!! :)))

>Has anyone on this list heard of "Benito Urghu" and a song he did
>called "Sexy Fonni"?

I don't have it but have heard it, I know who Urgu is (euggh) and I can
tell you some stuff about all this!

>It's a Very Very Hip Cut. With Benito shouting and talking in Italian
>and a woman moaning and saying, "je t'aime...." (among other words).
>Italian meets French erotic lounge music with the kind of easy funky
>bassline you can groove to.

In Italy, circa 1975/1979 there were loads of clones/parodies of "Je
t'aime, moi non plus" by Jane Birkin/Serge Gainsbourg.
A nice article appeared on magazine "Mondo Bizzarro" (#1, annual, 1999...
and only in Italian!) tries to talk about all of them and also makes a
hilarious comparison between "Orgasmo music" as they define the genre and
"papa' song" (i.e. "daddy" songs, with a man talking to his young
son/daughter and often telling some crappy story or singing with him/her).
The author of the article says that maybe the two styles are connected
(maybe the guys who were f****n' in orgasm records then had all babies!!) ;D

Anyway it lists some of the hits in the two genres: Sexy Fonni and Mon
cheri Fonni by Benito Urgu (a regional comedian from Sardinia, lately often
seen on tv and in commercials), La Prima Volta (by Andrea & Nicole... i.e.
"The first time", a scandalous record about a young couple losing
virginity, censored by 1970's national radio), and so on. The best "papa'
song" was instead "Sei forte papa'" (sort of "daddy you're great!") by
Gianni Morandi, who still is a famous pop singer and in mid 60's used to
record for RCA with Morricone's orchestra and Alessandroni's "Cantori
Moderni" (modern singers); Morricone & Alessandroni were often seen backing
up Italian pop artists in that era.
Anyway "Sei forte papa'" is different and even has sort of electronic
keyboard sounds on it. I must have it on cd.

Going back to orgasm tracks: both the Urgu singles are Gainsbourg rip-offs
based on the contrast between the the french vocals (Urgu's "french
girlfriend") and his dialectal/regional comedy stuff.
So often when she says things like "je t'aime" he understands "io temo" (I
fear) and he replies with something like "there's nothing to fear!"; in the
sceond record (that according to the magazine article is better for all
these silly jokes, the french girl writes Benito a sexy letter and when she
says "Cheri fonni" he understand she's saying "sheriff" and comes out with
immortal lines like "I like when youi call me SHERIFF!" ;-DDDDDDD
Oh, I was almost forgetting: as Urgu is often represented as a sardinian
shepherd, at the end of this record, excited by the erotic letter he will
end up making love -er- a sheep. (argh)

I have recently seen Urgy singles and even a LP in a flea market but had no
money to burn on that day; I hope I can add it to my collection sooner or
later.
I also remember it was reprinted a couple of times on cd/LP compilations in
the last 10 yrs or so... and of course those were collection of weird
tracks, comedy/parodies etc.

Benito Urgu's site (apparently from the agency who represents him) is here:
http://www.applausi.com/benito_u.htm
Check out the pics from yesterday (ieri) and today (oggi... including some
Urgu's cuban dancers pics...) :))))

Finally, a few months ago I mentioned here Brigitte's translation "Ti amo e
io di piu'" (practically literal translation with writing credit to
Gainsbourg, and Daiano for Italian text).
I first thought to make a mp3 out of it; I am now thinking of a legal
reprint but I've encountered lots of troubles (the original disc came out
with a men's magazine from 1970's, "King" and no one seems to hold the
rights to this stuff; Daiano is a pseudonym but Italian author society SIAE
is not helping me in contacting him or whoever represents him (even if I
think I've discovered who the guy was); the b-side is an instrumental
called "Incontro" (meeting) written by Lumni (another 1970's pseudoym
author I think I have located).

Mondo Bizzarro also mentions a weirder version, "Motel" by popular comedian
Gino Bramieri (who died a few years ago).
In it, Bramieri is a waiter in a motel; when he enters a dark room he hears
a woman moaning... at the end of the song, he will turn on the lights and
discover that there was no one else in the room, and the voice came from...
an erotic 7" playing on the turntable!!! :)

Ahem. I hope this was enough (eugggh).

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Holy shit! We are going to sue you some more.
Date: 04 Feb 2000 10:31:11 +0100


A little MP3 file-sharing program outlines the shape of things to come
in the music industry -- and it's not what the big labels think.


The music industry and its trade organizations, like the Recording
Industry Association of America (RIAA), are circling the wagons:
Copying music files can be a copyright violation, and so they are
turning the MP3 movement and innovators like Napster into the Enemy.


Who is the music industry going to sue? When it gets mad at companies
that provide warehouse-like servers, like MP3.com, it can sue (and has)
-- and if it wins, it can shut those servers down. The brilliance of
Napster is that, like the Internet itself, it lacks any center: It's
just you and me, acting as individuals, sending files across the Net.
The RIAA could try to shut down the central Napster directory, which
lets users locate other users and their files; you can bet, though,
that sooner or later someone would then come up with a more legally
bulletproof version of the same service. And if the RIAA goes after
the entire Napster user base, the music industry will find itself in
the awkward position of suing a whole lot of its best customers.
Which doesn't sound like smart business.


Whatever happens to Napster, what's inevitable is that the existing
physical model of the music industry -- the shrinkwrapped CD in the
clumsy jewel case with the stupid plastic tabs that always break off
-- is going to vanish, as surely as the vinyl LP and the shellac 78s
before it. And however loud the RIAA screams, the new online
distribution model is never going to be as tightly controllable, or
as profitable, as the old physical approach. We'll all pay for our
music one way or another, but we'll probably pay less, and we'll
have many more opportunities to preview it and share it and adapt
it to our own ends.


http://www.salon.com/tech/col/rose/2000/02/04/napster_swap/index.html


PS

There's an article about the Stockhausen Helicopter String Quartet at
http://www.salon.com/ent/music/review/2000/02/04/stockhausen/index.html

The composition, originally executed in 1995, recorded the members of
the Arditti String Quartet playing inside four Royal Dutch Air Force
Helicopters. The choppers, meanwhile, flew patterns charted in the
composer's score. Both the helicopters and the string players were
miked for sound, broadcasting in real time to a console on the ground
where Stockhausen mixed them together.


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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) cd trading?
Date: 04 Feb 2000 13:20:41 +0000


Hi there,
I have some multiple copies of Plastic releases.
If someone's interested, please write me off-list and we can
arrange a trade for some cd's from my wantlist or for CD-R's
from your record collection. Tracklistings and details on
single releases available on request.
Here they go:

- Burlesque - The Striptease Music In Action (on pre-Plastic, Glab
  recs.);

- Stroboscopica - sonorizzazioni psycho beat - Italian 70's
  psychedelic b-movies soundtracks and sonoritations (PL003);

- I Gres: Exotic Themes For Films, Radio & TV (PL004);

- Spectrum - Thrilling 60's Film Noir Themes (PL006);

- Phase 6 Super Stereo - Introducing The Alternative Italian B-Movies
  Soundtrack (PL 005);

- Piombo Rovente - A Journey Into the 70's Italian Police O.S.T. (PL
  012);

Also have for trading:
- The Masquers Club salutes Mae West - feat. Mae West and a host of
   celebrities (Dionysus/Bacchus Archives BA1124).

Tell me.
Ciao
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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fresh Sounds
Date: 04 Feb 2000 08:46:09 -0600


Does anybody on the list have contact information or a web
address for Fresh Sounds Records in Spain?  Thankyaverymuch.


Darrell Brogdon
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From: "w m" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) space age pop vol. 3
Date: 04 Feb 2000 07:39:58 PST



hi all,

  i've been meaning to ask this for awhile but haven't had the chance. back
in dec. when i was in victoria b.c. i picked up a used copy of some rca
comp. called "space age pop vol. 3 the stereo action dimension" i'd never
seen it before and nearly passed on it as the artwork was so bland(i know
that's terrible but it's the truth...) what convinced me to buy it was the
magic word esquivel. i'm really glad i did too as i like the disc a lot. i
don't recall who else is on it(the booklet is still packed away) but does
anyone have any comments on this series? this was the first time i had even
seen it or heard anything about it. were they discontinued? are the rest as
good?

  also has the ring started yet? i hadn't heard anything about it and nat's
mentioning having his tape made me wonder if it has started yet or not...

       william in taipei.

ps. what does the list think of the japanese group united future
organization? their often called "acid jazz" but i have found them in the
jazz section soul r& b etc...i really like them though they could be heavily
sampling jazz records and i wouldn't know what is them and what is a sample.
any thoughts?


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Subject: (exotica) Zippy
Date: 04 Feb 2000 11:14:57 -0500


I think you'll want to eyeball today's Zippy strip:

http://www.sfgate.com/sf/zippy/5.gif



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Subject: (exotica) [obit]Richard Allen ``Dick'' Dudley,Allarakha Khan,Will 'Dub' Jones
Date: 04 Feb 2000 11:35:23 -0500


                        *Richard Allen Dudley
    LANCASTER, Pa. (AP) -- Richard Allen ``Dick'' Dudley, an NBC
radio and television announcer who was among the first to broadcast
news of the Pearl Harbor attack, has died from a brain tumor. He
was 84.
    Dudley, whose career as ``The Voice of NBC'' spanned 60 years,
died Wednesday at the Essa Flory Hospice Center.
    Born Casper Bernard Kuhn Jr. in Louisville, Ky., Dudley began in
the entertainment business in 1925 as an 11-year-old on a kids'
show on WTNT radio in Nashville, Tenn.
    He began doing voices and commercials on WSM radio. The summer
after graduating from high school, he started a small theater
company in a renovated barn, where his plays became a springboard
for entertainer Dinah Shore.
    In 1938, he moved to New York City and held numerous jobs before
becoming a pageboy at NBC.
    He moved up the ranks and became an NBC staff announcer in 1940.
On Dec. 7, 1941, he was one of the first announcers to broadcast
the report of the attack on Pearl Harbor. He was drafted in 1943
and rose to become program director of the Armed Forces Radio
Network in London, where he put on shows with bands entertaining
the troops.
    After the war, he returned to NBC in New York where he worked as
an announcer and performer for 40 years until his retirement.
    He was one of the original emcees of ``Ripley's Believe It or
Not'' and announced the Toscanini Television Concerts,'' as well as
``The Price is Right,'' ``Not for Women Only'' and ``The Today
Show.''
    Dudley is survived by two sons and three grandchildren.
--------------
                          *Allarakha Khan
BOMBAY, India (AP) -- Allarakha Khan, the best-known player of
the tabla, or Indian drum, died early Thursday, his family said. He
was 81.

His family said the musician, who used only the name Allarakha,
died shortly after learning of his daughter's death. Family members
said he was shocked by the news and suffered a heart attack at his
home.

He and his daughter Razia, 51, who had suffered from a heart
ailment, will be buried Friday.

Allarakha made his international debut in Japan in 1964, playing
with Indian sitar maestro Ravi Shankar. The duo helped popularize
Indian music abroad and sold out concerts both in India and
elsewhere.
[I am very saddened by this news -- Ustad Allarakha Khan Qureshi was
one of the most amazing musicians I've ever heard/seen. --Lou]
http://www.timesofindia.com/today/04home8.htm
http://www.friendsworld.com/allarakha.html
http://indiatimes.com/culture/music/shikhar.html
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=11:06:51|AM&p=amg&sql=B172410
http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Eapa/zhussain.html
--------------
L.A. Times -- Thursday, February 3, 2000
Will 'Dub' Jones; Sang Bass in the Coasters

Will "Dub" Jones, 71, the bass vocalist for the Coasters who delivered
signature lines in rollicking rock 'n' roll hits such as "Yakety Yak,"
"Charlie Brown" and "Along Came Jones." The longtime Long Beach resident and
native of Shreveport, La., sang the familiar deep-voiced hook line "Don't
talk back" in the 1958 No. 1 hit "Yakety Yak" and the playfully forlorn line
"Why's everybody always picking on me?" in the 1959 tune "Charlie Brown,"
which reached No. 2 on the U.S. pop charts.

Jones, an Army veteran, came to prominence in another Los Angeles-based
R&B vocal group, the Cadets, which began in the late 1940s as a gospel act
and scored a hit with "Stranded in the Jungle" in 1956. The Coasters, who
first assembled in 1955 and had already scored hits such as "Searchin' " and
"Young Blood," selected Jones to replace original bass singer Bobby Nunn in
their lineup in 1958. The Coasters' series of sly, upbeat Top 10 hits--all
written by seminal songwriting duo Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller--ended with
"Poison Ivy" in 1959, but their influence landed them in the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame in 1987, the hall's second year of inductions. Jones turned his
career back to gospel in the 1970s and performed with groups such as the
Mighty Travelers.

On Jan. 16 in Long Beach after a prolonged battle with diabetes.
----
February 4, 2000
A. E. van Vogt, 87, Forceful Science-Fiction Voice
By GERALD JONAS,NYTimes
A. E. van Vogt, a writer who smuggled raw emotion into modern
science fiction, died on Wednesday at a hospital in Los Angeles. He
was 87 and lived in Los Angeles.
Rest of obit at:
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-a-vogt.html






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Subject: (exotica) Music Minus One
Date: 04 Feb 2000 11:39:12 -0500


Check out this short piece on the 50th birthday of Music Minus One:
http://wnyc.org/newsinfo/arts/FISHKO012800.html

Anyone collect MMO LPs? I've got a nice Bacharach one, myself.

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From: Maurizio Mansueti <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Il Giaguaro  =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=B01?=  Out Now - IN ENGLISH & ITALIAN
Date: 04 Feb 2000 18:03:45 +0100


Il Giaguaro  N=B01  Out Now    IN ENGLISH & ITALIAN

     "Il Giaguaro" leaps into the new Century with a  glorious first
issue,
brilliant and full of  appealing articles!
     "Il Giaguaro" has become bi-lingual, English and Italian, moving
into
an International habitat much more suitable for magazine of this
nature.  We
are also announcing the beginning of a new series of articles dedicated
to
preserving and enhancing the "Cult" T.V. series of the the 60's & 70's.
We
will start the always witty and cunning duo of  John Steed and Emma Peel
in
"The Avengers".
     There is also an exclusive interview with the ever popular Jazz
musician, Amedeo Tommasi  who will tell about his musical adventures
with
legend, Chet Baker!
     PLUS,  Journalist Michael Pergolani=B9s 1974 London interview talkin=
g

with the unique artist, Francis Bacon.
     Movie Director Luigi Cozzi introduces a very young Dario Argento
with
an interview in 1970.
Concrete Music: "A Trip into the Music of the Fixed Sound" ,  the birth
of
the Italian Fashion,  and a bit of The Evergreen Porsche cars are just
some
of the fascinating articles in this issue.
     As a finale we conclude this issue of with a 7=B2 vinyl release of
the
1966 film, "Fume di Londre" (Smoke of London).
The first movie of  Italian comedian Alberto Sordi and music composed by
the
World famous, Piero Piccioni!  An exclusive listening pleasure to the
readers of "Il Giaguaro" are previously unreleased versions of  "Mr:
Dante
Fontana"  and "Richmond Bridge",  featuring  the chrous group, " I
Cantori
Moderni di Alessandro Alessandroni".
     We are sure that readers everywhere  will devour this magazine to
it=B9s
delicious end!
 And remember!  This is the year of the Jaguar!

Black Cat Records News

The Psych Jazzy Beat of  "I Marc 4" BCR 0101 DLP / CD rom  out now
The Marc 4 was responsible for having the greatest, most incredible
Italian
soundtrack style. This jazz-beat combo were known to play and record
with
some of the best known and most admired composers of this genre; from
Ennio
Morricone to Piero Umiliani. The Marc 4, for the most part, were the
band
who recorded 99% of Armando Travajoli's compositions.
The Marc 4 recorded serveral albums as "I Marc 4" on their label
"Nelson"
from 1970-1976, in this unique compilation you can find their best
recordings that captures their innovative sound; their diversity shines
with
styles ranging from Jimmy Smith to Italian Bossa-nova to experimental
tunes
with strange special effects.
The unique sound of "I Marc 4" comes from omnipresent Hammond C3 of
Antonello Vannucchi with the rhythm section of Roberto Podio on drums
and
Maurizio Majorana on bass, not to forget the real soul of the band,
Carlo
Pes on guitar. On this album you can catch the pure spirit of genius
with
these masterpieces from the Italian film music files.
In 1971 the composer Romolo Frano was working on the soundtrack of a TV
serial "Il Segno del Comando" (a real "cult" TV serial for today's
B-movie
lovers), he chose 5 tracks from the Marc 4 library music album on
'Nelson'
records, two of the five tracks are in this compilation; Distortion Mind
is
a beat song with wild fuzz guitar and groovy bass and Key Board has a
dreaming flute with the soft Hammond sounds of Mr. Vannucchi. These two
tracks are not to be missed on this compilation, as is the case for the
rest
of the album.

ITALIAN LOUNGE-BEAT PARTY BCR 0100 DLP / CD rom  out now
 ITALIAN LOUNGE-BEAT PARTY is a compilation of Italian soundtracks from
the
mid 60's to the early 70's. In those years the Italian film music
produced
the best sound ever and had superior quality productions. Thanks to
composers like Armando Trovajoli, Piero Piccioni, Alessandro
Alessandroni,
all selected in this compilation, the Italian film music found itself in

living a second youth, in the scene of Lounge and Easy Listening music.
More and more DJ's and bands are inspired by this rich discography to
make
their sound more creative and different from the rest. In this
compilation
ensemble by the 'never stopping' Claudio Fuiano (compiler and executive
producer of a dozen lounge-beat compilations around the globe) and Al
Casey
(DJ and editor of the magazine "Il Giaguaro"), nobody will be
disappointed.
Previously unreleased tracks like Humanity and Il Giovane Normale by
Armando
Trovajoli, the first one is a real shaker and the second is a pop-beat
track
with singing in English. These tracks will take you straight to the 'Red

Carpet' nightclub beneath the ruins of the magic city called ROMA. It's
an
album to listen, to dance and to dream to.

Coming Soon
"Fumo di Londra" OST music by Piero Piccioni CD and DLP
"Sonorissima Vol.1 The Italian Library Music Party"

Il Giaguaro & Black Cat Rec.
Alessandro Casella
Via Castruccio Castracane 3
00176 Roma, Italy
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Taboo This!
Date: 04 Feb 2000 12:57:16 -0500



>wa wait a minute... we're Taboo Records! we only 2
>releases out now... Don
>Tiki and Duke Kahanamoku Presents. Please tell me more
>about this release...

And even though I am not affiliated with Taboo Records, imagine my surprise
at the Sundance Film Festival (more on that soon) when one of the festival
trailers featured "Close Your Eyes" by Don Tiki!

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Subject: (exotica) Variety interactive summit
Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:00:59 -0500


http://www.variety.com/article.asp?articleID=1117776138
Zelnick: Digital good music biz
BMG topper predicts an end to CDs
By MARC GRASER, February 4, 2000

SAN DIEGO ù While Hollywood worries that
the Internet may shrink its coffers, Bertelsmann
Music Group prexy and CEO Strauss Zelnick
told a high-tech summit Thursday that the digital
downloading of music and films will only expand
the markets for entertainment content.

Go to URL for full story.

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Subject: (exotica) Variety interactive summit
Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:00:59 -0500


http://www.variety.com/article.asp?articleID=1117776138
Zelnick: Digital good music biz
BMG topper predicts an end to CDs
By MARC GRASER, February 4, 2000

SAN DIEGO ù While Hollywood worries that
the Internet may shrink its coffers, Bertelsmann
Music Group prexy and CEO Strauss Zelnick
told a high-tech summit Thursday that the digital
downloading of music and films will only expand
the markets for entertainment content.

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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More copyright
Date: 04 Feb 2000 20:00:21 +0100


>There are no moral rights in US copyright (this was from a Hong Kong
website).

I have heard that generally in the Common Law system (UK/US and all
anglo-saxon inspired law systems) there is "no" moral right.
Hmmm.
Yet in the past few years I've seen a lot of examples of artists/composers
sotpping a certain release because they didn't like a particular cover
version, too different from the original (even if *legal*).
That is purely moral right because the economic rights would have been
regularly paid through labels and royalty collection agencies.
I remember those stupid Oasis blocking the release a of a reggae cover of
one of their songs (but luckily they never stopped Mike Flowers
Pops'"Wonderwall") and I have a 1990 vinyl 12" from New Beat Less which was
an Italian trio of producers making a medley of Beatles hits in dance/house
style with loads of samples from other artists (Tom Jones, Technotronic etc.).
Particularly, this version was stopped by the Beatles plus Yoko Ono and
publisher Northern Songs i.e. Michael Jackson (hmmm maybe I already
mentioned all this in here... sorry if I did!).
This version was even supported by EMI UK (mentioned in the credits on the
12"); so obviously there's no problem with economic rights.


bye,
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re: Copyright Myth
Date: 04 Feb 2000 11:45:25 -0800 (PST)



I said:

>Money has nothing to do with copyright violation.
>It's a violation of copyright to distribute things,
>even if no money changes hands.
>I don't know how much protection you have for home
>taping, but I'm pretty sure that making tapes of
>albums for people is illegal. Mixes, maybe not, but I
>wouldn't count on it. > >Your only saving grace right
now is your relative >anonymity.
[snip]
>I only hope they don't get wind of our little tape
>ring thing and close us down for trading copies of
>forty year old albums that may never see the light of
>day.

Then BJ said:
So, by your own message, it's not ok for others
(including myself) to  trade tapes because we're
violating copyright, but it's ok for you to do  so
because you're part of this "ring"? If so, I'd like to
plead the same  case for myself then, because there
are no differences in circumstance.  You can't condemn
something that others do and then make a hypocritic
case for yourself to be involved in the same exact
thing! Many tapes and  CD-Rs I trade with others are
LP material that have never been released  on CD
format in any country.

Now I say:

Nuh-uh.  That's not it at all.  I never said it was
okay for me.  It's not "ok" in terms of the law for
anybody.  It's a flagrant violation of copyright.  I
only said, I hope I don't get caught.  I choose to
violate this law because I don't really believe in it
and I don't think people are being hurt by my
violation.  While that's not exactly the best way to
run a democracy, I also know that I have little chance
and little motivation to change the law, as I am a
single man and they are big corporations, plus my risk
is small and the reward is great.  Feel free to
disrespect my morality on the issue, but that's where
I'm at.

Yes, I personally think it's okay for everyone to
trade music.  I think it's important in the spread of
music in general, and natural for a human being to
want to share they joy they feel.  It is however
against the law, and I do hope I don't get caught.  I
also hope the proverbial "they" don't close down our
proposed ring.

So, to reiterate, I'm not condemning anybody, but I do
think it's important to understand the law as best as
possible before you decide to break it.  All I'm
saying is, if you think you are protected under law
for trading tapes with someone, you're not.  Or at
least, I wouldn't be too sure.

As far as taping old records or stuff that hasn't been
released on CD, well, as far as I know there's no
loophole regarding format.  Whether it's been released
on CD or not, SOMEONE holds the copyright to all that
Brazilian music you love and they have the option to
decide not to release it.  That doesn't give you the
right to distribute it in your own format, ie, by
taping.

Again, I think it SHOULD somehow, so don't think I'm
condemning you.  But I do think people should know
what the rules are.  Especially when they don't seem
to see how some simple thing they take for granted is
actually breaking the law.

Did you know leaving your keys in your car on a
Cincinnati street in order to warm it up is against
the law, even in front of your own house?  Stupid law?
 Yes.  But that doesn't mean anything when you get a
ticket.  It's still the law.

It's just good to be aware.
That's all.

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Breakbeat!
Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:55:19 EST



In a message dated 2/4/0 12:38:36 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I played Ursula 1000 (still one of my favourites)

where can I get this??

>Still reeling from this new discovery...

After giving Br Cleve a lot of lip over new material he's been discovering
and what it doesn't have for elements, I am slowly discovering some new
material that does have good elements included with the modern sounds. I
mentioned Yoshinori Sunahara and the Bungalow label in general earlier which
is selectively satisfying for me. Any other labels or artists that yank
anyone's chain? JB/still amazed though by my "Music From Outer Space" by
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Subject: Re: (exotica) More copyright
Date: 04 Feb 2000 20:00:21 +0100


>There are no moral rights in US copyright (this was from a Hong Kong
website).

I have heard that generally in the Common Law system (UK/US and all
anglo-saxon inspired law systems) there is "no" moral right.
Hmmm.
Yet in the past few years I've seen a lot of examples of artists/composers
sotpping a certain release because they didn't like a particular cover
version, too different from the original (even if *legal*).
That is purely moral right because the economic rights would have been
regularly paid through labels and royalty collection agencies.
I remember those stupid Oasis blocking the release a of a reggae cover of
one of their songs (but luckily they never stopped Mike Flowers
Pops'"Wonderwall") and I have a 1990 vinyl 12" from New Beat Less which was
an Italian trio of producers making a medley of Beatles hits in dance/house
style with loads of samples from other artists (Tom Jones, Technotronic etc.).
Particularly, this version was stopped by the Beatles plus Yoko Ono and
publisher Northern Songs i.e. Michael Jackson (hmmm maybe I already
mentioned all this in here... sorry if I did!).
This version was even supported by EMI UK (mentioned in the credits on the
12"); so obviously there's no problem with economic rights.


bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

"Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief"
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Subject: (exotica) new motion reviews ---+ date: 04.feb.00
Date: 04 Feb 2000 22:14:58 +0000



---+ new reviews ---+ http://motion.state51.co.uk/reviews/

      David Toop - Hot Pants Idol (Barooni)
      Henry Cowell - New Music: Piano Compositions by Henry Cowell (New
       Albion)

thanks, and apologies for cross-postings

the motion team

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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) re: Copyright Myth
Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:24:50 -0500


At 11:45 AM 2/4/00 -0800, Peter Risser wrote:
>
>Yes, I personally think it's okay for everyone to
>trade music.  I think it's important in the spread of
>music in general, and natural for a human being to
>want to share they joy they feel.  It is however
>against the law, and I do hope I don't get caught.  I
>also hope the proverbial "they" don't close down our
>proposed ring.

Up here where the government is in the pockets of Celine Dion and the
Musicians Association (which used to be run by Bryan Adams' manager) they
tried to slap a huge levee on all blank recording media.  If they'd gotten
their way, the price of a 90 minute tape would have gone from two bucks to
seven bucks!
But as it turns out, the "tax" is about twenty five cents.
The purpose of the levee was to try and offset profit loss resulting from
home taping.  Profit from the tax will be doled out proportionately to
recording artists, based on sales.
If it went the opposite way, I might almost endorse the tax.  But who's
making a tape for their friend, going "Hey you just have to hear this
Titanic song!"

I've never given a moment's thought to the "illegality" of making tapes or
trading music.  Then again, I've never profited financially from making a
tape.  I think that would change things.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat!
Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:42:38 -0500


At 12:29 AM 2/4/00 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>I don't know though, I hear more of this Pop Nouveau which much
>of the list is moving toward and sure I like it, but it sounds like an
>extension of the late new wave period sound to me.  Maybe it's
>because I know this sound so well, but it doesn't grab me quite so
>much.... Unlike the breakbeat stuff... which itself isn't radically
>new, sampling and remixing having been around a while. All I can
>say is if I start liking dance music, it must really be good!  I think
>Nat and Allan can relate to this feeling.

I'm not sure I know which feeling you're referring to here.  But if you're
talking about being surprised you like something you thought you'd never
like, yeah I can relate.  But the truth is, I think I've stopped being
surprised.  I worked out a philosophy/rationalization/justification and now
everything kinda makes sense.

I'm sure I'd like the breakbeat stuff you're talking about.  I liked almost
everything in your end/beginning of the millenium radio shows, although you
guys seem to like that Electro Lounge thing way way more than I did.

I like everything that takes samples or inspiration from sixties pop,
seventies jazz funk, Mancini soundtracks, lounge etc.  I like all the
Italian soundtracks, easy pop, all the Crippled Vampiros Dickbos kinda
stuff I hear.

But the problem is that it all kinda melts together for me.

And sometimes it just seems a bit too DE-contextualized.

I like it when I hear it.  I liked knowing that it exists.  I like hearing
about it.  But I'm almost never driven to buy it.

I don't know if I love the (first?) Tipsy thing because it was the first
such thing I heard or because it's better than other things or because I
actually found one of the samples on an Enoch Light LP or what... but I
don't know how much more of that stuff I could take.

And what do you mean by pop nouveau?

I've been buying sixties/seventies records from a guy who's selling his
seven thousand records collection.  Catching up on stuff I was vaguely
aware of, used to have, always wanted etc.
And I've been having a good time in the "B's"
Box Tops, Big Star, Badfinger, Buckinghams
And I love the Strawberry Alarm Clock record.  All that weird organ and vibes.

I don't know what that has to do with anything.  But sometimes the old
stuff sounds exactly like the new stuff but somehow it "makes more sense".

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Subject: Re: (exotica) re: Copyright Myth
Date: 04 Feb 2000 14:46:54 -0800


>Up here where the government is in the pockets of Celine Dion and the
>Musicians Association (which used to be run by Bryan Adams' manager) they
>tried to slap a huge levee on all blank recording media.  If they'd gotten
>their way, the price of a 90 minute tape would have gone from two bucks to
>seven bucks!

I don't know where you are, but here in the U.S., the industry was
successful in raising the price of blank audio-only CD-R media (the kind
you use in home stereo CD-R and CD-RW recorders (not computer
recorders)).  The reason why they cost anywhere from $2.00 to $7.00 more
a piece over computer CD-Rs is because the music industry wanted to
offset the supposed hordes of teenagers making copies of music CDs in
their bedrooms.  Some entity *is* collecting and getting those extra fees
on the audio-only CD-Rs.

Regards,
--bj
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Subject: (exotica) Record finds
Date: 04 Feb 2000 18:21:25 -0500



"Ted Heath Orchestra Plays Beatles Bach and Bacharach".  I like TH's big
band sound and this sounds very much like a big band. Only 2 Bach tracks.
Concept similar to a rare Command LP.

"Les and Larry Elgart, Elgart au Go-Go" Listened to only a few cuts. this
was mention in Cool and Strange Music mag.

"Persuasive Percussion vol 4". Didn't know this went up to vol 4.

"Arthur Murray Modern Waltzes Les Baxter" Picked it up cause of Baxter.
Have not listened to this. Anybody have a comment? Now that I have the
Baxter 2 CD UL should I stop picking up stuff like this?

"Sing It's Good For You, the Norman Luboff Choir". Have not listened to
this. Anybody here like Norman Luboff? Anybody have a list of what they
think is the "good stuff"?

Henri Rene: "Riots in Rhythm" and "White Heat". I love Henri Rene and Riots
is...well.. a riot. Thanks Jim.

Dick Schory's New Percussion Ensemble "Music for Band Baaroom and Harp.
Cover: Dick Schory buried under a pile of percussion instruments. Tried 2
track on the show. Based on the 2 tracks I heard the Skitch Henderson
tracks are the ones to listen to.

Jack Marshall "Soundsville! Swinging Sketches". Another mentioned in Cool
and Strange Music mag.  Wonderful.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Record finds
Date: 04 Feb 2000 16:11:00 -0800


[e-mail] wrote:
> "Arthur Murray Modern Waltzes Les Baxter" Picked it up cause of Baxter.
> Have not listened to this. Anybody have a comment? Now that I have the
> Baxter 2 CD UL should I stop picking up stuff like this?

The "Exotic Moods" set is a nice overview of Baxter's 50's "jungle" or
"exotica" music, but he did a lot more than that. His other stuff may
have some appeal (or, it might not). No reason not to sample some of
it...

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Benito Urgu
Date: 04 Feb 2000 16:33:36 -0800



Thanks Batman!  I should have thought to ask you first.

If anyone wants to hear the Benito cut I have posted it up as an mp3
file and included DJ Batman's background on the track with it here,
http://www.thebranflakes.com/fp/mp3.html
I'll be posting up other mp3 files also (as time and server space
permits).

enjoy,

Otis


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Music Minus One
Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:08:41 -0800


At 11:39 AM 04-02-00 -0500, Lou wrote:
>Anyone collect MMO LPs? I've got a nice Bacharach one, myself.

Cool.  For me, nothing as neat.  I have a few classical ones...some with
the music AND the record!  I have this fantasy that when I retire I will
learn to play a variety of instruments and have these records to work with.

Unlike a lot of other records I get, I am not yet in the real collecting
mode with these.  If I happen to find one for 10 to 25 cents, I get it, even
without the music.  I certainly am not in the list making stage of
completism on these...not until I actually start taking up an instrument.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Subject: Re: (exotica) space age pop vol. 3
Date: 04 Feb 2000 17:14:45 -0800


At 07:39 AM 04-02-00 PST, w m wrote:
>comp. called "space age pop vol. 3 the stereo action dimension" does
>anyone have any comments on this series?

only three CDs issued.  all are must buys, in my opinion.  I don't think
RCA plans any more and has stopped making them.  The few new ones I have
seen are discounted or cutouts.  You might get them through the RCA music
club.

Yes, unlike the Ultra Lounge series, these don't have cool illustrations or
an attitude...just the facts and not all that many.  However, they do have
the tunes from some RCA albums which most of us wish were released in their
entirety.  Here cuts from the stereo action series on this one, but from
other albums on the other two...the Three Suns are represented, Leo Addeo,
others.

Byron

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Subject: RE: (exotica) space age pop vol. 3
Date: 04 Feb 2000 18:47:09 -0800




>i picked up a used copy of some rca comp. called "space age pop vol. 3 the
stereo action dimension" i'd never seen...were they discontinued? are the
rest as good?

Yes they seem to have been discontinued.  To my taste volumes 2&3 are both
*essential* while volume 1 lags behind slightly.

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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Benito Urgu
Date: 05 Feb 2000 10:22:50 +0100


wow!
great job, Otis!!!
:)))))
bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) obit: Joachim-Ernst Berendt
Date: 05 Feb 2000 12:11:25 +0100


Joachim-Ernst Berendt, author of the best-selling book about jazz of all
times, Jazz-expert and critic, died in Hamburg at the age of 77. He was
hit by a car when crossing the street at the red light on his way to the
vernissage of his new book "Just Walking".
Berendt was co-founder of the Suedwestfunk radio and TV-station in
Germany after the war and chief of the jazz-dept. until his retirement.
He designed several programs about jazz and founded festivals, such as
the American Folk Blues Festival and the Berlin Jazz Days. As a producer
he was responsible for about 250 long-players for MPS, Atlantic and
Electrola. His most popular was the series "Jazz Meets The World" that
featured jam-sessions of jazz musicians with outer-european music
cultures. Berendt wrote more than 20 books, his "Jazzbook" sold more
than 1,5 million copies worldwide, to many the bible of jazz;
Joachim-Ernst Berendt was called the Jazz-pope.

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Subject: (exotica) The People With Holes In Their Heads
Date: 05 Feb 2000 06:17:56 PST



Heres a little article i found on trepanation, too bad I am so scared of
physical pain.


The People With Holes In Their Heads
Amanda Feilding lives in a charming flat looking over London's river with
her companion, Joey Mellen, and their infant son, Rock. She is a successful
painter, and she and Joey have an art gallery in a fashionable street of the
King's Road. Another of her talents is for politics. At the last two General
Elections she stood for Parliament in Chelsea, more than doubling her vote
on the second occasion from 49 to 139. It does not sound much, but the cause
for which she stands is unfamiliar and lacks obvious appeal. Feilding and
her voters demand that trepanning operations be made freely available on the
National Health. Trepanation means cutting a hole in your skull.

The founder of the trepanation movement is a Dutch savant, Dr Bart Hughes.
In 1962 he made a discovery which his followers proclaim as the most
significant in modern times. One's state and degree of consciousness, he
realized, are related to the volume of blood in the brain. According to his
theory of evolution, the adoption of an upright stance brought certain
benefits to the human race, but it caused the flow of blood through the head
to be limited by gravity, thus reducing the range of human consciousness.
Certain parts of the brain ceased or reduced their functions while others,
particularly those parts relating to speech and reasoning, became emphasized
in compensation. One can redress the balance by a number of methods, such as
standing on one's head, jumping from a hot bath into a cold one, or the use
of drugs; but the wider consciousness thus obtained is only temporary. Bart
Hughes shared the common goal of mystics and poets in all ages: he wanted to
achieve permanently the higher level of vision, which he associated with an
increased volume of blood in the capillaries of the brain.

The higher state of mind he sought was that of childhood. Babies are born
with skulls unsealed, and it is not until one is an adult that the bony
carapace is formed which completely encloses the membranes surrounding the
brain and inhibits their pulsations in repsonse to heart-beats. In
consequence, the adult loses touch with the dreams, imagination and int
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Subject: (exotica) The People With Holes In Their Heads
Date: 05 Feb 2000 06:17:58 PST



Heres a little article i found on trepanation, too bad I am so scared of
physical pain.


The People With Holes In Their Heads
Amanda Feilding lives in a charming flat looking over London's river with
her companion, Joey Mellen, and their infant son, Rock. She is a successful
painter, and she and Joey have an art gallery in a fashionable street of the
King's Road. Another of her talents is for politics. At the last two General
Elections she stood for Parliament in Chelsea, more than doubling her vote
on the second occasion from 49 to 139. It does not sound much, but the cause
for which she stands is unfamiliar and lacks obvious appeal. Feilding and
her voters demand that trepanning operations be made freely available on the
National Health. Trepanation means cutting a hole in your skull.

The founder of the trepanation movement is a Dutch savant, Dr Bart Hughes.
In 1962 he made a discovery which his followers proclaim as the most
significant in modern times. One's state and degree of consciousness, he
realized, are related to the volume of blood in the brain. According to his
theory of evolution, the adoption of an upright stance brought certain
benefits to the human race, but it caused the flow of blood through the head
to be limited by gravity, thus reducing the range of human consciousness.
Certain parts of the brain ceased or reduced their functions while others,
particularly those parts relating to speech and reasoning, became emphasized
in compensation. One can redress the balance by a number of methods, such as
standing on one's head, jumping from a hot bath into a cold one, or the use
of drugs; but the wider consciousness thus obtained is only temporary. Bart
Hughes shared the common goal of mystics and poets in all ages: he wanted to
achieve permanently the higher level of vision, which he associated with an
increased volume of blood in the capillaries of the brain.

The higher state of mind he sought was that of childhood. Babies are born
with skulls unsealed, and it is not until one is an adult that the bony
carapace is formed which completely encloses the membranes surrounding the
brain and inhibits their pulsations in repsonse to heart-beats. In
consequence, the adult loses touch with the dreams, imagination and intense
perceptions of the child. His mental balance becomes upset by egoism and
neuroses. To cure these problems, first in himself and then for the whole
world, Dr Huges returned his cranium to something like the condition of
infancy by cutting out a small disc of bone with an electric drill.
Experiencing immediate beneficial effects from this operation, he began
preaching to anyone who would listen to the doctrine of trepanation. By
liberating his brain from its total imprisonment in his skull, he claimed to
have restored its pulsations, increased the volume of blood in it and
acquired a more complete, satisfying state of consciousness than grown-up
people normally enjoy. The medical and legal authorities reacted to Huges's
discovery with horror and rewarded him with a spell in a Dutch lunatic
asylum.

Joseph Mellen met Bart Huges in 1965 in Ibiza and quickly became his
leading, or rather one and only, disciple. Years later he wrote a book
called Bore Hole, the contents of which are summarized in its opening
sentence: 'This is the story of how I came to drill a hole in my skull to
get permanently high.'

[A few paragraphs that detail Joseph Mellen's early experiments with LSD,
and how he finds out about Bart Huges have been removed for brevity.]

The time came when Joey felt he had preached enough and that he now had to
act. He did not agree with Holingshead that the third eye was merely a
figure of speech, believing in its physical attainment through
self-trepanation. Support for this can be found in archaeology. Skulls of
ancient people all over the world give evidence that their owners were
skillfully trepanned during their lifetimes, and many of these appear to
have been of noble or priestly castes. The medical practice of trepanation
was continued up to the present century in treatment of madness, the hole in
the skull being seen as a way of relieving pressure on the brain or letting
out the devils that possessed it. By his scientific explanation of the
reasons for the operation, Bart Huges had removed it from the area of
superstition, and Joey Mellen proposed to be the second person to perform it
on himself in the interest of enlightenment.

Bart had become a close friend of Amanda Feilding, and they went off to
Amsterdam together while Joey took care of Amanda's flat. This was the
opportunity he had been waiting for to bore a hole in his head.

The most gripping passages in Bore Hole describe his various attempts to
complete the operation. They are also extremely gruesome, and those who lack
medical curiosity would do well to read no further. Yet to those who might
contemplate trepanation for and by themselves, Joey's experiences are a
salutary warning. It should be empahasized that neither he, Bart nor Amanda
has ever recommended people to follow their example by performing their own
operations. For years they have been looking for doctors who would
understand their theories and would agree to trepan volunteer patients as a
form of therapy Strangely enough, not one member of the medical profession
has been converted.

In a surgical store Joey found a trepan instrument, a kind of auger or cork-
screw designed to be worked by hand. It was much cheaper and, Joey felt,
more sensitive than an electric drill. Its main feature was a metal spike,
surrounded by a ring of saw-teeth. The spike was meant to be driven into the
skull, holding the trepan steady until the revolving saw made a groove,
after which it could be retracted. If all went well, the saw-band should
remove a disc of bone and expose the brain.

Joey's first attempt at self-trepanation was a fiasco. He had no previous
medical experience, and the needles he had bought for administering a local
anaesthetic to the crown of his head proved to be too thin and crumpled up
or broke. Next day he obtained some stouted needles, took a tab of LSD to
steady his nerves and set to in earnest. First he made an incision to the
bone, and then applied the trepan to his bared skull. But the first part of
the operation, driving the spike into the bone, was impossible to
accomplish. Joey described it as like trying to uncork a bottle from the
inside. He realized he needed help and telephoned Bart in Amsterdam, who
promised he would come over and assist at the next operation. This plan was
frustrated by the Home Office, which listed Dr Huges as an undesirable
visitor to Britain and barred his entry.

Amanda agreed to take his place. Soon after her return to London she helped
Joey re-open the wound in his head and, by pressing the trepan with all her
might against his skull, managed to get the spike to take hold and the saw-
teeth to bite. Joey then took over at cranking the saw. Once again he had
swallowed some LSD. After a long period of sawing, just as he was about to
break through, he suddenly fainted. Amanda called an ambulance and he was
taken to hospital, where horrified doctors told him that he was lucky to be
alive and that if he had drilled a fraction of an inch further he would have
killed himself.

The psychiatrists took a particular interest in his case, and a group of
them arranged to examine him. Before this could be done, he had to appear in
court on a charge of possessing a small amount of cannabis. The magistrate
demanded another psychiatrist's report and demanded him for a week in
prison.

There followed a period of embarrassment as the rumour went round London
that Joey Mellen had trepanned himself, whereas in fact he had failed to do
so. As soon as possible, therefore, he prepared for a third attempt.
Proceeding as before, but now with the benefit of experience, he soon found
the groove from the previous operation and began to saw through the sliver
of bone separating him from enlightenment or, as the doctors had predicted,
instant death. What followed is best quoted from Bore Hole.

'After some time there was an ominous sounding schlurp and the sound of
bubbling. I drew the trepan out and the gurgling continued. It sounded like
air bubbles running under the skull as they were pressed out. I looked at
the trepan and there was a bit of bone in it. At last! On closer inspection
I saw that the disc of bone was much deeper on one side than on the other.
Obviously the trepan had not been straight and had gone through at one point
only, then the piece of bone had snapped off and come out. I was reluctant
to start drilling again for fear of damaging the brain membranes with the
deeper part while I was cutting through the rest or of breaking off a
splinter. If only I had an electric drill it would have been so much
simpler. Amanda was sure I was through. There seemed no other explanation
for the schlurping noises I decided to call it a day. At the time I thought
that any hole would do, no matter what size. I bandaged up my head and
cleared away the mess.'

There was still doubt in his mind as to whether he had really broken through
and, if so, whether the hole was big enough to restore pulsation to his
brain. The operation had left him with a feeling of wellbeing, but he
realized that it could simply be from relief at having ended it. To put the
matter beyond doubt, he decided to bore another hole at a new spot just
above the hairline, this time using an electric drill. In the spring of
1970, Amanda was in America and Joey did the operation alone. He applied the
drill to his forehead, but after half and hour's work the electric cable
burnt out. Once again he was frustrated. An engineer in the flat below him
was able to repair the instrument and next day he set out to finish the job.
'This time I was not in any doubt. The drill head went at least an inch deep
through the hole. A great gush of blood followed my withdrawal of the drill.
In the mirror I could see the blood in the hole rising and falling with the
pulsation of the brain.'

The result was all he had hoped for. During the next four hours he felt his
spirits rising higher until he reached a state of freedom and serenity which
he claims, has been with him ever since.

For some time now he had been sharing a flat with Amanda, and when she came
back from America she immediately noticed the change in him. This encouraged
her to join him on the mental plane by doing her own trepanation. The
operation was carefully recorded. She had obtained a cine-camera, and Joey
stood by, filming, as she attacked her head with an electric drill. The film
shows her carefully at work, dressed in a blood-spattered white robe. She
shaves her head, makes an incision in her head with a scalpel and calmly
starts drilling. Blood spurts as she penetrates the skull. She lays aside
the drill and with a triumphant smile advances towards Joey and the camera.

Ever since, Joey and Amanda have lived and worked together in harmony. From
the business of buying old prints to colour and resell, they have progressed
to ownership of the Pigeonhole Gallery and seem reasonably prosperous. They
have also started a family. There is nothing apparently abnormal about them,
and many of their old friends agree in finding them even more pleasant and
contented since their operations. There is plenty of leisure in their lives,
mingled with the kind of activities they most enjoy. These of course include
talking and writing about trepanation. They have lectured widely in Europe
and America to groups of doctors and other interested people, showing the
film of Amanda's self-operation, entitled Heartbeat in the Brain. It is
generally received with awe, the sight of blood often causing people to
faint. At one showing in London a film critic described the audience
'dropping off their seats one by one like ripe plums'. Yet it was not
designed to be gruesome. The soundtrack is of soothing music, and the
surgical scenes alternate with some delightful motion studies of Amanda's
pet pigeon, Birdie, as a symbol of peace and wisdom."

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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Iowa
Date: 05 Feb 2000 09:33:58 -0500


I'm going to Des Moines, Iowa tomorrow (no, really) for
a couple of days and am wondering if there are stores, clubs,
other attractions worth checking out.  Anyone out there from
that great state?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) 101 Strings
Date: 05 Feb 2000 13:44:52 EST


In a message dated 2/3/00 9:03:04 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 << I'm not sure what you're asking.  I thought the liner notes for the Astro
  Sounds reissue CD said that the bonus tracks were just tracks they recorded
  at the time and couldn't fit on the original LP.>>

 Yes, referred to as "erotic sessions".  One of those three tracks, Karma
 Sitar, is on "The Sounds Of Today" album.

 <>

 I'm with you, I like the bonus tracks better too.

 <<What makes you think the bonus tracks come from an original LP somewhere?
>>

 So far, it's all hearsay.

 Calling Ashley now...



  >>
Sorry for the delay in answering. The 101 Strings recorded an album called
"The 'Exotic' Sounds Of Love which feature the moanings of Bebe Bardon that's
where the track "Whiplash" comes from. There is a paragraph about this in
Joseph Lanza'a "Elevator Music" book.

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Album Storage
Date: 05 Feb 2000 13:30:00 -0800 (PST)


Hey folks,

Does anyone know of a place on the web that might have
album storage solutions?  Shelves and junk?

I've had to move all my albums to the basement and am
looking for some way to store 'em.

Thanks,
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay
Date: 05 Feb 2000 22:40:33 +0100


The Leeteg painting on ebay sold for $1,376.26.

Mo



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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Who Knew? (the Gentle People)
Date: 05 Feb 2000 16:50:57 -0800


While searching for a copy of the newer Gentle People CD on eBay,
I learned the following:

> THE GENTLE PEOPLE - A PORTRAIT OF THE AMISH BY DONALD M.
>      DENLINGER (TEXT AUTHOR) and JAMES A. WARNER
>      (PHOTOGRAPHER). James A. Warner found the secret of "The Gentle People".
>      From the apparent drudgery and hard life of the Amish, he has captured the human
>      qualities of contentment, companionship, and happiness in his photographs.
>      Measures 9 x 11-1/1", 185 pages, Published in 1992. HARD COVER WITH INTACT DUST JACKET.

I wonder if the band knew of this association when they chose the name?

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Subject: (exotica) Louis Prima & Keely Smith on tv tonight
Date: 05 Feb 2000 18:58:19 EST


Just a reminder to any who may have missed it the new Louis Prima tv
biography and the hard to catch (not on video) Louis Prima/Keely Smith/Sam
Butera film "Hey Boy Hey Girl" will both be on television tonight, Saturday
Feb 5th.  Check your local A&E listings.

Enjoy, I know I will be taping this one.  Also, thanks to list member e.ace
for the original heads up!

Best wishes,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Louis Prima & Keely Smith on tv tonight
Date: 05 Feb 2000 20:03:50 -0500


>Just a reminder to any who may have missed it the new Louis Prima tv
>biography and the hard to catch (not on video) Louis Prima/Keely Smith/Sam
>Butera film "Hey Boy Hey Girl" will both be on television tonight, Saturday
>Feb 5th.  Check your local A&E listings.

AMC actually. 9:45pm eastern zone. The pairing repeats later at 4:00am or
3:45am (slight disagreement in published schedules).


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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MP3 for Mac??
Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:52:04 +1100


Hey kidz!

I'm ready to toss myself into the MP3 maelstrom to check it out...can
someone in the know regarding Mac useage of software/search stuff please
email me and retrieve me from the endless glut of crap I gotta sift thru to
find ANYTHING???  Not much info on MP3 sites concerning Mac.

Thanks!

Keith

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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Public Enemy goes Exotica!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:59:08 +1100


Wow!  I just heard Public Enemy using 101 Strings 'Flameout' from Astro
Sounds as the bedrock for their new single...it's very very good.  Go to:

http://www.mvpsite.com/

and go to their 'music, video & links collection.'

They've still got the touch.  It's no 'Fear of a Black Planet', but no-one's
perfect.

Keith

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) MP3 for Mac??
Date: 05 Feb 2000 18:14:01 -0800


>Hey kidz!
>
>I'm ready to toss myself into the MP3 maelstrom to check it out...can
>someone in the know regarding Mac useage of software/search stuff please
>email me and retrieve me from the endless glut of crap I gotta sift thru to
>find ANYTHING???  Not much info on MP3 sites concerning Mac.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Keith

To Keith and other Mac users on this list:  to play existing MP3 files on
a Mac you will need either the new Quicktime 4.1 app from Apple or
MacCAST, which plays all other audio files in addition to MP3s (Quicktime
is free but has a lousy new interface; MacCAST costs $20.00 to register
for full usage, but is free to play clips of 2 minutes or less in
length).

To create MP3s on a Mac, you will need Toast Audio Extractor software
which makes AIFF files from ripping the redbook audio tracks on your CDs.
 This app comes with the Toast CD Burner software one receives when
purchasing a CD Burner for the Mac.  You then need to drag and drop the
individual AIFF files onto an application called "MP3 Encoder" which is
freeware (you will have to do a search for it on the internet--which is
how I found mine, I no longer have the URL from where I downloaded it).

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6
Date: 05 Feb 2000 21:38:25 -0500


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.


Space Bop #81   Pop Nouveau (thanks to Kevin for the name!)

Stereo Total:  Holiday Innn  "Juke-Box Alarm"
Etienne Charry:  Jour "J"  "36 Erreurs"
Czerkinsky:  Les Sacs En Plastique  "Czerkinsky"
Stereo Deluxe:  Aerocyclette  "Pool Position"

Gentle People:  La Mouche  "Hommage A Polnareff"
Yukari Fresh & Pat Detective:  Yippee To Kate 99  "Poptics"
Andreas Dorau & Moritz R:  Der letzte Popsong  "Poptics"
D. Ryba:  Ciao Darling  "Kidnap International"
Laurent Lombard:  Pop Flower  "Hi-Fi Stereo Remixes"

Yoshinori Sunahara & Mars Art Lab:  Preview  "Poptics"
Fantastic Plastic Machine:  There Must Be An Angel (Playing With My
Heart)  "Luxury"

Pat & The Maxwell Implosion:  Bello Tour  "Pool Position"
Die Moulinettes:  Alfio Brambilla (Martini Mix)  "Songs For Marshmallow
Lovers"
Pizzicato 5:  Tout Tout Pour Ma Cherie  "Hommage A Polnareff"


Thanks for reading.


[e-mail]
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Subject: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 00:49:32 -0500


Nat wrote:

> >...if I start liking dance music, it must really be good!  I think
> >Nat and Allan can relate to this feeling.
> I'm not sure I know which feeling you're referring to here.  But if you're
> talking about being surprised you like something you thought you'd never
> like, yeah I can relate.  But the truth is, I think I've stopped being
> surprised.  I worked out a philosophy/rationalization/justification and now
> everything kinda makes sense.
Yeah that's the feeling all right... but mainly the fact that it would
be dance music of all things we're talking about!  I forgot you and
Allan have never met so the reference probably hasn't got the same
meaning to either of you.  Sorry for the confusion!

> I'm sure I'd like the breakbeat stuff you're talking about.  I liked almost
> everything in your end/beginning of the millennium radio shows, although you
> guys seem to like that Electro Lounge thing way way more than I did.
I'm not such a big fan of that particular compilation and I remember
making the same comment when we were putting these shows
together but this show is a shared effort... Of course it's not a bad
thing as this way listeners are spared Schlager than they could
otherwise get if left to me alone...

> I like everything that takes samples or inspiration from sixties pop,
> seventies jazz funk, Mancini soundtracks, lounge etc.  I like all the
> Italian soundtracks, easy pop, all the Crippled Vampiros Dickbos kinda
> stuff I hear.
Oh sure I'm the same. And I think this may be why I like this newer
stuff so much, as it borrows so heavily from these same things.
Whether it's jazz-funk, easy, or now sound being featured you hear
the same instruments and sounds (moog, hammmond, vibes...) but
with a whole different feel that has a somehow refreshing and new
appeal. I can't explain it any other way.

> But the problem is that it all kinda melts together for me.
> And sometimes it just seems a bit too DE-contextualized.
> I like it when I hear it.  I liked knowing that it exists.  I like hearing
> about it.  But I'm almost never driven to buy it.
It's hard in this day and age to maintain any sense of context with
so much being, so much criss-crossing of styles, sampling,
remixing, de-mixing and whatever so I've given up myself. Still, if
you feel a desperate need to hear more, I'm only a email away!

> I don't know if I love the (first?) Tipsy thing because it was the first
> such thing I heard or because it's better than other things or because I
> actually found one of the samples on an Enoch Light LP or what... but I
> don't know how much more of that stuff I could take.
Tipsy (like Sukia or Stock, Hausen & Walkman) is probably more
experimental, borrowing clips and bits to make something almost
completely new.  The breakbeat stuff I refer to is a lot less
experimental in that it borrows a lot more of the original but as I
said, with a fresh and somehow very appealing sound, at least in
the number of examples I've heard. I didn't expect to make a
convert of you from a few tapes and actually aside from Mo'
Horizons, Bobby Hughes, Ursula 1000 and DJ ME DY You, the
tapes cover a much wider range... but after starting to feel like I
was actually catching up on what was out there, this was a nice
surprise. I think we share the same compulsion to keep on
discovering.

> And what do you mean by pop nouveau?
I always though of this category being made up of groups like
those you'd find on Marina or Tricatel...maybe even Stereo Total or
even Portishead.  All really good, but sounding more like a natural
extension of the later new wave sound before it kind of fizzled out. I
sense this may not be an accurate perception and base it only on
those discussions on the subject from this list. Since I'm not on
that particular list I probably should say no more for fear of reprisal.

> And I love the Strawberry Alarm Clock record.  All that weird organ and vibes.
> I don't know what that has to do with anything.  But sometimes the old
> stuff sounds exactly like the new stuff but somehow it "makes more sense".
I kind of rediscovered that one myself too.  Yeah I know the context
presents a problem but my view has always been that
complacency is a bad thing when it comes to music. Whenever I
reach a point where I'm able to (or even think I could for that matter)
compile a list of all I'm missing, I can be sure it's a bad time
musically. I haven't had a want list for several years now so things
are still looking up! I also have this habit of taking it upon myself to
try to challenge people with music they may like but may not
otherwise get to hear. It doesn't always connect but when it does
it's really satisfying.  That experience with Ursula 1000 a few
weeks back was one of those moments that make it all worthwhile.
Must be a calling! Yeesh... now I know what these evangelists
must feel like!

Enough philosophizing for now.. I think


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re:Breakbeat!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 02:16:36 EST



In a message dated 2/6/0 12:56:01 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I'm sure I'd like the breakbeat stuff you're talking about

Is it possible to spell out a working definition of "breakbeat"? I'll admit
it: I really don't know what it truly isssss....Thanks, JB/grooviness is
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From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MP3 for the Mac
Date: 06 Feb 2000 00:16:53 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 12:52:04 +1100
>From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) MP3 for Mac??
>
>Hey kidz!
>
>I'm ready to toss myself into the MP3 maelstrom to check it out...can
>someone in the know regarding Mac useage of software/search stuff please
>email me and retrieve me from the endless glut of crap I gotta sift thru to
>find ANYTHING???  Not much info on MP3 sites concerning Mac.

The absolute best player for MP3 files for the Mac is Audion. I had
no end of problems with the other players before I stumbled on it.
It has a very slick Mac-like interface too. Well worth the shareware
fee.

As for finding MP3's I've had the best luck in two newsgroups...

alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1950s

Most ISP's don't carry these, or have incomplete postings due to
poor propagation. I use giganews.com which gives me fast connections,
long article retention and complete posts. I hear supernews is good
too. It costs about five bucks or so a month. Check out their web
pages for details.

I set a batch of files downloading every night. So far I have gotten
tons of great stuff... everything from Edison cylanders to 1950s
percussion records. Well worth the time and trouble. Feel free to
contact me off list if you would like more details. I'd also be
interested in swapping mp3s I have collected with others on the
list.

See ya
Steve

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 11:00:19 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> Is it possible to spell out a working definition of "breakbeat"? I'll admit
> it: I really don't know what it truly isssss....

Brian:

> I didn't expect to make a
> convert of you from a few tapes and actually aside from Mo'
> Horizons, Bobby Hughes, Ursula 1000 and DJ ME DY You, the
> tapes cover a much wider range... but after starting to feel like I
> was actually catching up on what was out there, this was a nice
> surprise. I think we share the same compulsion to keep on
> discovering.
>
I'm a bit surprised about this connection. I know Breakbeat from a very
different context. The term came up some 4 years ago, it was the time when
what was formerly just house and techno split up in dozens of different
sub-definitions and virtually every week a new trend came up. Just like in
Jungle there wasn't much content involved in Breakbeat that had anything to do
with exotica-related music. I'm sure Jill could say more about this, if she
was still in this list, I just remember highly nervous rhythms, "broken", if
you want, with drum and bass-oriented sounds, not unlike the sounds of techno.
But every time I asked one of the so called specialists of one of these genres
to give me a plausible explanation or definition, they all more or less
failed.

Mo

PS: Jill, can you help?




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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6
Date: 06 Feb 2000 11:50:32 +0100


cheryl wrote:

> As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.
> Space Bop #81   Pop Nouveau (thanks to Kevin for the name!)
>
> Andreas Dorau & Moritz R:  Der letzte Popsong  "Poptics"

Mo, what's this??

Marco

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6
Date: 06 Feb 2000 14:52:46 +0100




Marco \\Kallie\\ Kalnenek wrote:

> cheryl wrote:
>
> > As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.
> > Space Bop #81   Pop Nouveau (thanks to Kevin for the name!)
> >
> > Andreas Dorau & Moritz R:  Der letzte Popsong  "Poptics"
>
> Mo, what's this??
>

It's what it says: The last pop song of the 20th century. And we wrote it.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:11:05 +0100


At 11:00 06/02/00 +0100, you wrote:
>[e-mail] wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to spell out a working definition of "breakbeat"? I'll admit
>> it: I really don't know what it truly isssss....

It goes back for many years. The James Brown "Funky DRummer" drum part is
the classic "break". A breakbeat is simply a style of drumming. Genre-wise,
and music with breaks (hip hop, jungle are very common) can be considered
"Breakbeat". Big beat music (in the Fatboy Slim mode) is also breakbeat.
Lots of 60s and 70s funk use the break. Breakbeat music really implies so
much. I don't use it as a genre reference, more as a style of drumming
reference.

Is that more clear?

Jill "Mingo-go"

PS: Mo, feel free to forward this to the list.


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From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: MP3 for Mac?
Date: 06 Feb 2000 09:45:21 -0500


BJ wrote:

>To Keith and other Mac users on this list:  to play existing MP3 files on
>a Mac you will need [...]

Start with these URLs, and you can see a pretty complete listing of
Mac MP3 software:
http://software.mp3.com/software/featured/macintosh/player/
http://software.mp3.com/software/all/macintosh/encoder/

Two of the best-regarded commercial encoders are:
http://www.soundjam.com/
http://www.n2mp3.com/

(Both of them can go directly from CD to MP3 files without the
intermediate step of saving giant AIFFs on your hard disk.)

Is anyone aware of a freeware encoder for Mac? The MPecker betas seem
to be gone now.


There are plenty of freeware players which will do the job, assuming
you don't already have QuickTime 4 (which directly supports MP3s).
GrayAmp is a nice one if you think the idea of garish interface
"skins" is dopey. . .

cheers,
  --Ross

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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The People With Holes In Their Heads
Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:41:15 +0000


Magnus Sandberg wrote:
>
> Heres a little article i found on trepanation, too bad I am so scared of
> physical pain.
>
> The People With Holes In Their Heads
> Amanda Feilding lives in a charming flat looking over London's river with
> her companion, Joey Mellen, and their infant son, Rock. She is a successful
> painter, and she and Joey have an art gallery in a fashionable street of the
> King's Road.
(etc)

This article is from 'Eccentric Lives and Peculiar Notions' by
John Michell, 1984. It's all a good read.




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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:51:42 +0000


Moritz R wrote:
>
> [e-mail] wrote:
>
> > Is it possible to spell out a working definition of "breakbeat"? I'll admit
> > it: I really don't know what it truly isssss....
>

> I'm a bit surprised about this connection. I know Breakbeat from a very
> different context. The term came up some 4 years ago, it was the time when
> what was formerly just house and techno split up in dozens of different
> sub-definitions and virtually every week a new trend came up. Just like in
> Jungle there wasn't much content involved in Breakbeat that had anything to do
> with exotica-related music. I'm sure Jill could say more about this, if she
> was still in this list, I just remember highly nervous rhythms, "broken", if
> you want, with drum and bass-oriented sounds, not unlike the sounds of techno.
> But every time I asked one of the so called specialists of one of these genres
> to give me a plausible explanation or definition, they all more or less
> failed.

A 'breakbeat' itself is a sampled bar (measure) from an instrumental
break on a record. All the references to 'breaks' in compilation titles
mean this. The term has been around almost as long as hip hop has, I
believe. In practice the 'breaks' used tend to be of a funk or soul
origin.

'Breakbeat' as a genre means nothing. At different times instrumental
Hip hop, jungle, and some hardcore have all been referred to as
'breakbeat'. As a common definition it can be used to distinguish Hip
hop, trip hop and jungle from the 4/4 beats of house and techno (i.e. a
bass drum hit on all four beats in the bar), which tend to be made using
individual sounds (e.g. a bass drum sample, a hi-hat sample and a snare
sample) rather than a sampled and looped whole bar.

There's also a genre called 'breaks' or 'nu breaks' which tends to be
instrumental, noisy and not very engaging (IMO). I think this followed
out of the UK big beat scene, and might have links with the 'breaks' or
'Florida breaks' genre in the US.



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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yoshinori Sunahara
Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:19:53 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> For those interested in new exotica/lounge influenced music may I toot
> Yoshinori Sunahara's horn? I just picked up the "Pan-Am '70" LP and it is
> changing my mind about new music. This guy does it all:  fender rhodes
> samples on top of beats with pauses and scratch samples,  in-flight e-z
> listening, distorted computerized chants, all with an easy listening
> sensibility clearly evident. An aural delight with every cut. On Bungalow
> (what a mo-fo of a label!)....JB

He's obsessed with aeroplanes: He has another album called 'Take-offs
and Landings', although this isn't as good IMO as 'Pan Am - Sounds of
70s'. I think this is also on Bungalow.


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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quest. about a CD burner and Turntable.....
Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:33:50 +0000


Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Also on sale is a gemini turntable for $170 - "direct drive" - does this mean it doesn't rely on a belt to turn the platter??

yes - for DJ-ing direct-drive turntables are used, allowing the user to
wind the record forward and back for cue-ing, scratching etc together
with a slip mat.

Belt drive turntables can have a superior sound, since the belt
insulates the turntable from the motor's vibrations. For home listening
there are some very nice belt drive turntables being made at present, a
lot from Eastern Europe (don't know if these are exported to the
states). Gemini are budget DJ-ing equipment.


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From: "Mike Horne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Anyone know where "Music Blvd" went? (OT)
Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:13:40 -0500


Howdy,
    Sorry to  bring this here, but I'm at a loss and figured someone here
might be able to help me. A while back I did some email business with
www.musicblvd.com and recieved no response; it was a minor matter of a free
demo disk I'd won from them, but now they've merged with some other on line
retailer and am wondering if I can pester their new incarnation for the
never sent disk...
    Please email me  privately about this if anyone knows...
    Thanks,
    Mike
    aka
    [e-mail]




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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Breakbeat!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 12:59:24 EST



In a message dated 2/6/0 9:11:56 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The James Brown "Funky DRummer" drum part is
>the classic "break". A breakbeat is simply a style of drumming.

So breakbeat is simply when all other instrumentation stops and the drummer
goes through his rolls and keeps the beat movin'? Why is that a genre?
Because it gets sampled? Where am I?  JB


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Subject:  (exotica) Re:Breakbeat!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 13:01:38 EST



In a message dated 2/6/0 10:12:20 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>'Breakbeat' as a genre means nothing.

Yet I've seen a "breakbeat" section in local record shops. (But I never
bought one)


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yoshinori Sunahara
Date: 06 Feb 2000 13:03:17 EST



In a message dated 2/6/0 10:18:09 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>'Take-offs
>and Landings', although this isn't as good IMO as 'Pan Am - Sounds of
>70s'. I think this is also on Bungalow.

Agreed, although Take-Offs certainly has its moments and is worth picking up
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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:Breakbeat! + New compilations
Date: 06 Feb 2000 18:30:41 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/6/0 10:12:20 AM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >'Breakbeat' as a genre means nothing.
>
> Yet I've seen a "breakbeat" section in local record shops. (But I never
> bought one)

I didn't mean that it isn't used, my point was that it is a term which
has multiple definitions, and therefore, IMO, should be avoided. At a
guess the music is the breakbeat might be the 'breaks' stuff I
mentioned.


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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Anyone know where "Music Blvd" went? (OT)
Date: 06 Feb 2000 10:41:46 -0800


Mike Horne wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>     Sorry to  bring this here, but I'm at a loss and figured someone here
> might be able to help me. A while back I did some email business with
> www.musicblvd.com and recieved no response; it was a minor matter of a free
> demo disk I'd won from them, but now they've merged with some other on line
> retailer and am wondering if I can pester their new incarnation for the
> never sent disk...
>     Please email me  privately about this if anyone knows...

Since this may be of interest to others...

Music Blvd merged with CDnow a while back.

-Kevin

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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New compilations
Date: 06 Feb 2000 18:45:54 +0000



2069 A Spaced Oddity
has Werner Muller - Bodybuilding, Andrew Loog Oldham - The Last time
(the one the Verve got caught using), Howard Blake - Elephant rides
again
Not great sound quality and presumably vinyl only (and white label at
that)

The Melting Pot vol2
Lalo Schifrin - Ape shuffle, Gustav Brom Orch - Waldmachen (one of the
killer tracks on Talkin Jazz 3), Big jim H - Jungle Fever (fantastic!),
Percy Faith - First light, and a few more good ones.

Also finally got round to buying Blue Brazil (blue note) which is more
latin and less jazz than i thought. Very different to Blue Bossa (which
has 50% unmissable tracks IMO).

And a reissue - Nico Gomez and his Afro Percussion, which Division One
(behind Virgin on Oxford St) has at a reasonable price. *Very* nice and
also very varied. Had danced to the mambo one the previous night at Wah
Wah at the Camden Jazz Cafe and wondered what it was.

Also a new comp of Jacky Mittoo tracks from Soul Jazz (producers of the
100% dynamite series) which is nice if you like both reggae and Hammond.
The 100% dynamite comps (currently 3) are also particularly good, of
interest to list members might be the Mission Impossible theme done
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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: MP3 for Mac?
Date: 06 Feb 2000 11:28:48 -0800


>Start with these URLs, and you can see a pretty complete listing of
>Mac MP3 software:
>http://software.mp3.com/software/featured/macintosh/player/
>http://software.mp3.com/software/all/macintosh/encoder/
>
>Two of the best-regarded commercial encoders are:
>http://www.soundjam.com/
>http://www.n2mp3.com/
>
>(Both of them can go directly from CD to MP3 files without the
>intermediate step of saving giant AIFFs on your hard disk.)

I'm not sure that soundjam is a free app, though.  I suggested the Toast
Audio Extractor because Macs that have CD burners already have this
program and therefore don't have to go looking for something else.

>Is anyone aware of a freeware encoder for Mac? The MPecker betas seem
>to be gone now.

MPecker is a decoder, not an encoder.  The encoder called "MP3 Encoder
(version 0.12)" is what I found on the web for the Mac; it is freeware.
A search of all search engines using Sherlock found it for me pretty
quick.

Regards,
--bj
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 16:09:14 -0500


>So breakbeat is simply when all other instrumentation stops and the drummer
>goes through his rolls and keeps the beat movin'? Why is that a genre?
>Because it gets sampled? Where am I?  JB

I used to be confused by the ever-germinating terminology of this moderne
dance music. But once I found a website that set out to explain it all
(sorry, no idea of the URL now). And reading through it, I realized that
they're just making up their own terms for already existing musical
concepts. Like... as I read one definition, I realized that they were
simply talking about a 16th note groove. And so on. So now I understand
that it's only the reinvented terminology that make it confusing. If I
heard the music, I would say, "Oh, *that* ol' thing! Okay."


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! doh!
Date: 06 Feb 2000 17:04:56 -0500


>I used to be confused by the ever-germinating terminology of this moderne
>dance music. But once I found a website that set out to explain it all

Pertinent detail that I forgot to mention:

The site included little sound files illustrating the various terms. So I
could read their explanation and then listen to the file.



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Subject: (exotica) these are the breaks
Date: 06 Feb 2000 17:09:24 -0500


The term 'breakbeat' is used as a genre reference in electronic music
shops, and like all of those terms it includes a variety of styles based on
a common denominator. Every style of electronic dance music has a number of
subgenres or multiple definitions (i.e. there's house, deep house, tech
house, progressive house, afro house, tribal house, latin house, blah blah
blah) that are used to help differentiate the sound. Breakbeat simply
refers to records whose rhythm tracks are derived/sampled from 70's funk
(specifically, from the drum breaks, although drum machines are used as
well). There is a subgenre often called electro, aka nu breaks/Miami
breaks, that is a faster, noisier version of '80's electro (e.g. Africa
Bambaata, Jonzun Crew, smurf records, etc, which of course all point
backwards to Kraftwerk). The funky rhythms are what differentiate it from
house, techno, trance and drum 'n bass, all of which have their own
rhythmic styles (and of all of them, only drum 'n bass and breakbeat do not
feature the standard 4-on-the-floor kickdrum. When you mix break records,
you rely more on matching the snare hits rather than the kickdrum). Juno
Records in London places the records under the category "Breakbeat, Funk &
Hip Hop"; you can listen to MP3 snippets of many releases at
http://www.juno.co.uk)

These terms are there to help people find their way in the dense world of
electronic music, where hundreds of new 12" records are released each week,
often by faceless artists in plain sleeves. (in fact, a great majority of
people buy these records by label name, as labels define the sound
contained within). Without categorizations like these a person just
wouldn't know where to start looking in these shops (and it is certainly a
daunting experience for first timers.) Fortunately, turntables are provided
for previewing records (and while CD's exist, this is almost exclusively a
vinyl domain.)

The style of breakbeat records we've been refering to in the list are
related to 'big beat', and acts like Fat Boy Slim, The Wiseguys and
Propellerheads are godfathers of the sound. The majority of the records
tend to come from Britain (London and Brighton specifically), Berlin and
Italy. There's much more of an 'everything but the kitchen sink' approach
to production than in the other genres of dance music, as lots of samples
get thrown into the mix, and there are certainly more samples from easy
listening, now sound, and soundtrack albums than anywhere else, except
maybe hip hop. That's where the content comes in as it applies to this
list. The Wiseguys have routinely based their singles on this stuff (their
last 'hit', "Ooh La La", was built on a Now Sound sample, and their first
single was based on a Barry Gray loop taken from the 'Stingray'
supermarionation TV soundtrack; The Propellerheads recorded with Shirley
Bassey and did a number of spy-theme styled recordings). Jacknife Lee,
Bobby Hughes, Freddy Fresh and Mike Young have lots of Now Sound, latin and
organ jazz samples on their records; Ursula 1000's album "The Now Sound Of
Ursula 1000" is, like Tipsy, a cornicopia of EZ, exotica, soundtrack,
spoken word, and latin samples; Los Chicharrons album "Bongo Heaven/Conga
Hell" is made mostly of mambo, cha cha and boogaloo samples. The most
reoccuring sample in the genre is the drumbreak from The Incredible Bongo
Band's 1973 recording of 'Apache' (which Grandmaster Flash used to good
effect back in the '80's). There is a lot of fun and humor in these
records, items in short supply in techno, trance and jungle (not to mention
rock and rap), but abundant in space age bach pad, now sound, etc.

Why mention this stuff on this list? Because of the 'name that sample'
aspect to many of these records, and because its fair to say that a good
number of the artists are fans of (and own lots of) the type of recordings
that are discussed here. A quick visit to Ursula 1000's website
(www.ursula1000.com) will show you graphic imagery taken from records you
all know and love (check out "Ursula"'s head placed on James Coburn's
cartoon body from the Our Man Flint cover). Artists like Maxwell Implosion,
The Karminsky Experience, Stereo DeLuxe and Le Hammond Inferno all began as
Loungecore DJ's, and there is some crossover to records by Shibuya-kei
musicians like Fantastic Plastic Machine, Pizzacato Five and United Future
Organization, all of whom produce much music that is stylized after
lounge/exotica. There's also the crossover for DJ's with the Now Sound and
funky Italian soundtracks, as evidenced by the "Kinky Beats" compilation.
The Karminskys mix these sounds up weekly at Blow Up in London; I'm
starting a new clubnight next month in Boston doing the same. Check out
Ursula 1000 on Thursday nights at Drinkland in New York City, Senor Amor in
Los Angeles at Liquid Kitty and at The Encounter, DJ Laureano at the Deluxe
in San Francisco, Thievery Corporation at Wasington DC's 18th Street
Lounge, Fantastic Plastic Machine at his weekly residency in Kyoto..........

As Brian so beautifully put it, >" I think we share the same compulsion to
keep on discovering"

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yoshinori Sunahara
Date: 06 Feb 2000 16:54:18 -0500


At 10:19 AM -0500 2/6/00, M H Jemmeson wrote:

>> Yoshinori Sunahara "Pan-Am '70" LP

>He's obsessed with aeroplanes: He has another album called 'Take-offs
>and Landings', although this isn't as good IMO as 'Pan Am - Sounds of
>70s'. I think this is also on Bungalow.

You're right about his obsession. He has another album, which I believe was
a promotional only release, called "Tokyo Underground Airport", which is a
spoken word (in English)/musical "documentary" of this mythical futuristic
place. The packaging was a deluxe, full color, spectacular book, done in a
60's graphic style (no, I can't explain that, but you know it when you see
it) showing the airport, and all the details like the flight bags, etc etc.
Must have cost a fortune to produce (this is on vinyl, not some little cd
booklet); evidently the only way to get a copy was from Sunahara himself.
(No, I don't have one, but I know a few folks who do).

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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Il Giaguaro #0 (new cool magazine from Italy)
Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:36:56 +0100


I've finally found found a few days ago this mag at a sort of book fair
(#0, dated October 1999, but this was the first time I saw it!!).
This issue has texts in Italian but they say from #1 it will be bilingual
(with English translation).
Il Giaguaro (The Jaguar!:)) is a cool mag about Italian easy
listening,lounge,exotica and more cool stuff from 1960's and 70's!
It is not cheap (L.15000 which means about $9) but it contains a vinyl 7"
EP with 4 Morricone tracks (Ennio Morricone In Lounge: contains (Belinda
May, Gli Intoccabili, Allegretto per Signora, L'Alibi... all from the years
1969/70; the first and the last track also feature the Alessandroni's
"Cantori Moderni" on chorus.
Some of the main features are: a 4-page interview with Alessandroni with
some cool pics of his old record covers (and even one recent pic of the
Maestro playing sitar... he was one of the first Italian musicians
introducing the sitar in his works). A funny bit: when he recalls Morricone
calling him, decades ago and telling "Alessandro, come here, we need some
whistle for a film". He didn't know that "film" would have been "For a
fistful of dollars"...
Another great article is about Maurizio Majorana, one of "Marc 4",
composers/musicians also working for national TV Rai in the 1970's, telling
stories about their life with folks like Ortolani, Trovajoli, Morricone
etc., and how they had to use pseudonyms and friends to register their
compositions for copyright (at the time you weren't allowed to compose your
own stuff and work for Rai at the same time... or you would have abused of
your position playing your tunes as TV themes... so Majorana and friends
had to use several other "aliases" to publish their own music and then also
use it in the italian TV!!!). Also, info on Irma reprints of Marc 4 and how
french and japanese markets became interested in rediscovering their music,
too.
More features: classic BMW motorcycles, a reprint of a Cassius Clay
interview, Italian "Sexadelic" movies, reviews of new & reprint cds, Spy
Music, "Killing" (a "fumetti-style" photo mag rip-off of the comic
"Kriminal"... real weird stuff!!!:)))), analgue music, a short article
about easy listening in san francisco (?), an interview with Byron Werner
titled "The revenge of spage age bachelor pad music", some sexy Brigitte
Maiers pics from 1974 (including the central 2-page pic, looking like an
old Playboy issue poster...).
The mix may look weird but it's very cool in my opinion!
more info from:
Il Giaguardo
c/o Alessandro Casella
Via Castruccio Castracane 3
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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New compilations
Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:36:47 +0100


>2069 A Spaced Oddity
>has Werner Muller - Bodybuilding,

this one was sampled in 1997 by Bentley Rhythm Ace...
bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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Date: 06 Feb 2000 17:51:48 EST



In a message dated 2/6/0 1:43:56 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Also a new comp of Jacky Mittoo tracks from Soul Jazz (producers of the
>100% dynamite series) which is nice if you like both reggae and Hammond.

Le Hammond Inferno (German?) has out a nice 12"er called "Margret Evening
Fashion" where they build a singular groove based on an old 6T's ska sample.
The organ groove, though singular riff-wise throughout is kinda hypnotic and
very danceable...JB


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Date: 06 Feb 2000 18:06:13 EST



In a message dated 2/6/0 5:10:49 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

> Fortunately, turntables are provided
>for previewing records (in vinyl-only shops selling electronica)

I had my first experience the other day here in Boston. While listening is
necessary, some of the vinyl takes a beating from the careless listeners who
just slap the needle anywhere on the disc to get a sample of the groove. The
management does it too! The boss was slapping 12" after 12" on the OTA
Technics and almost without exception you heard a terrible ripping sound as
the needle missed the record groove and got dragged across a few vinyl
mountains. Je'd listen for all of 4 seconds and tear it off and repeat the
action. And the other problem seems to be that they stock two or three copies
of everything and they all seem to be pre-tasted. (I bought an old Loleatta
Holloway 12" record I hadn't heard simply because I'm a Holloway compleatist)
The SINGLE record cost me over 10 bucks. I guess that's the price for the
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Just Thinking
Date: 06 Feb 2000 15:41:36 -0800 (PST)


I saw the group Mr. Bungle about a month ago.  They
did a really great version of Hurry to Me by Roy Budd.


They've also done Morricone covers and other stuff,
along with the Dead Kennedies.  Full of variety,
that's how I like it.


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) these are the breaks
Date: 06 Feb 2000 21:33:18 -0500


At 6:06 PM -0500 2/6/00, [e-mail] wrote:

>some of the vinyl takes a beating from the careless listeners who
>just slap the needle anywhere on the disc to get a sample of the groove.

yeah, it happens, but the vinyl they use to press these records is pretty
sturdy. Don't forget, it's going to get abused every night by a DJ, what
with cueing into your spot, working the record in many ways to get the
beats matched (which is why CD's suck - - you just can't do any of that
properly), backcueing in time to the beat, etc etc. DJ'ing is very hard
work (it only sounds easy), and it takes a toll on the vinyl and the
stylus.

>And the other problem seems to be that they stock two or three copies
>of everything and they all seem to be pre-tasted.

Dance records are released in very limited numbers. Sometimes only one copy
will make it to the shop and be bought by a clerk before it ever makes it
out. The truly dedicated show up on release day (Wednesdays in Boston,
Tuesdays in NY, Mondays in London.......) and fight over grabbing the new
records. In many ways these records are like comic books, baseball cards
and other 'instant collectors items' of today. Don't buy it the day it
comes out, and you'll never find it again. I've bought lots of records at
different shops around the world that I've never ever seen anywhere else
ever again.

>The SINGLE record cost me over 10 bucks. I guess that's the price for the
>listening privilege....

no, that's just what they cost now. Import 12" singles are 10 bucks, US 12"
singles are $6 or $7. The prices are comparable if you are buying them in
New York or Paris, it doesn't matter. Don't forget, CD's are 17 bucks in
the US (about 25 or 30 equivalent in Europe, about 30 to 35 in Japan;
what's a new CD go for in Canada now.....Brian, Nat, Cheryl, Will?); new
45's are 4 or 5 dollars, new vinyl albums in the US are about $16. It's all
relative. A pack of smokes was 30 cents 30 years ago, now they're almost
five dollars.

I'm not saying that's a good thing, it's just what it is. But it ain't flea
markets, the salvation army, used rekkid stores, etc. These are new
records, and you have to pay for 'em. Unlike major label rock, etc, there
is no black market selling illegal promo copies at every used record store
in town, as this is an industry comprised almost entirely of small
independant labels (just like the old days.....no wonder I like it!)

ok, somebody shut me up now

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Subject: (exotica) The new Thomas Crowne Affair, my two cents
Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:31:46 EST


After reading several months ago all the cries of foul on this list that the
"classic" '60s film "The Thomas Crowne Affair" was being remade, I decided to
rent this "heretical" new version last night. Well, I'll be damned if it
isn't a better film than the orignal and while not being a Sting fan by any
means, his performance of "Windmills Of Your Mind" is far better than
only-ranking-a-footnote middling pop singer Noel Harrison's version. Michel
Legrand's own heartfelt performance is still the best and Legrand's original
soundtrack is a superb piece of music, but over all I found the new version
to be far more satisfying - and that is coming from a big Steve McQueen fan.

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From: "mofo2148" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion Radio Show - Week of 02/07/00
Date: 06 Feb 2000 23:25:31 -0800


Week of 02/07/00

The Friendly Persuasion Show

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna
Internet Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week
to hear:

1.  Benito Urghu - Sexy Fonni
2.  Vijaya Anano - I am the Emperor
3.  Joe Pesci - Got To Get You Into My Life
4.  The Templeton Twins & Teddy Turner's Bunsen Burners - Hey Jude
5.  Al Gilbert & Chorus - Tomorrow
6.  Miss Nelson & Bruce - Abracadabra
7.  Kali Bahlu - Cosmic Rememberance
8.  Screamin' Jay Hawkins - Hong Kong
9.  Petula Clark - Coke Commercial
10. Shut Up Little Man - Introducing Peter
11. Henry Mancini - Springtime For Hitler
12. Shut Up Little Man - You Don't Have Friends
13. The Road Runner - The Long and Winding Road
14. Ken DeFeudis - Lover Without a Cause
15. Georgie Young & The Rockin' Bocs - Yogi
16. The Flintstones for Winston Cigarettes
17. Andy Griffith - The Whistling Ping Pong Game
18. Mrs. Grossman (and Marty) - Hunt and Peck
19. The Six Philharmonicas - Powerhouse
20. Alvino Rey and "Stringy" - Sleepytown Train
21. 101 Strings - Whiplash
22. Miss Nelson & Bruce - Funky Little Song
23-26. More "Shut Up Little Man"


Thanks for listening,

Otis

Mr. Otis F-Odder
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From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject:  (exotica) these are the breaks
Date: 07 Feb 2000 12:40:20 -0000


Special DJ price, mate.
When that Moloko thing came out last summer,  admittedly as a double pack
12" single, it was going for 10 UK Pounds.  and still flying out of the
racks.  (Br Cleve didn't mention it but the other thing about these shops is
that the only stuff being bought comes from the racks behind the counter).

El Maestro Con Queso

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> Fortunately, turntables are provided
>for previewing records (in vinyl-only shops selling electronica)

I had my first experience the other day here in Boston.
<snip>
The SINGLE record cost me over 10 bucks. I guess that's the price for the
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From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood again
Date: 07 Feb 2000 13:30:58 -0000


Saw a review of another Smells Like... re-release of a Lee Hazlewood LP,
This time '13', reviewed in last Fridays guardian.  Sounds wonderful from
the article.  It seems that these things are published a few weeks before
the LP actually surfaces.  Does anyone have any details on this,  release
date,  formats (esp Vinyl)?

Thanks fer ye help


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: MP3 for Mac??
Date: 06 Feb 2000 19:46:02 +0100


to play MP3: soundApp is completely free, and plays/converts just about any
sound format in existence:
http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~franke/SoundApp/

to grab audio from CD, you can use several free extracting utilities, like
GrabAudio or CDToAIFF, or QuickTime's MoviePlayer/ QuickTime Player .

to code the MP3's, you can try the Shareware MPEGGER (FORMERLY MPECKER ENCODER)
http://2.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin2/flo?x=doKmoEEEEwEoBYum

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter
Date: 07 Feb 2000 13:53:31 +0100


some of you might have swapped tapes with a guy who calls himself the
"Underground culture Vulture". i did, and was disappoited by the lack of
track lists. even more when he refused to tell me the origin of a specific
track: a crime jazzy piece about a poetic cockroach that writes on a
typewriter. anyone recognises this decription?

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues
Date: 07 Feb 2000 14:20:19 +0100


just bought "two for the road" and "our man in hollywood", 2 recent mancini
reissues on RCA/BMG Spain. "two for the road" is not bad, but not as good
as i hoped either: a couple of stand-out tracks, but also 3 slimey tracks
that are too eazzzzzzzzzzy for me.

"our man in hollywood" was a nice surprise, with only one so-so track, and
several very good ones, in his typical sixties "Uniquely Mancini" sound:
lush, but still with a nice groove.

i didn't go for "high time". anyone can recommend that one?

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From: "James at The Details" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter
Date: 07 Feb 2000 15:10:06 -0000


>a crime jazzy piece about a poetic cockroach that writes on a
>typewriter. anyone recognises this decription

Sounds like it's something to do with the story "archie and mehitabel" by
Don Marquis - a story about a cat, written by a cockroach typist

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Subject: (exotica) [obits]Joachim-Ernst Berendt,Doris Kenner-Jackson,Claude Autant-Lara,John Vincent Imbragulio,Todd Karns
Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:25:22 -0500


Friday February 4 11:24 AM ET

German Jazz Advocate Berendt Dies

HAMBURG, Germany (AP) - Joachim-Ernst Berendt, known as the ``Pope of
Jazz'' for his leading role promoting the American-rooted music in
Germany, died Friday, a day after he was hit by a car. He was 77.

A spokeswoman at the University Clinic in Hamburg confirmed that Berendt
had died Friday morning.

Berendt was critically injured when he was struck Thursday evening as he
was walking to an event to promote his new book ``Nur Gehen,'' or ``Only
Walking,'' his version of experiences with nature, said a spokesman for
the music department at Suedwestrundfunk radio in Baden-Baden.
Berendt co-founded the radio station, and led more that 10,000
broadcasts featuring the music he loved.

He was the author of a number of works on jazz, including ``The Jazz
Book,'' published in 1952, ``Variations of Jazz,'' in 1956, and ``I
Hear, Therefore I Exist,'' in 1996. ``The Jazz Book'' was translated
into 18 languages and sold more than 1.5 million copies worldwide.

Berendt regularly toured the United States, Japan and other countries
promoting jazz. He produced some 250 long-play records for such
companies as MPS, Atlantic and Electrola. A poll conducted in 1970 by
the American-based music publication ``Jazz and Pop'' voted him Europe's
best jazz producer.

He is survived by his wife Marijan. Funeral plans were not complete.
--------
    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- Doris Kenner-Jackson of the pop-rock
group the Shirelles, whose soaring harmonies on ``Soldier Boy'' and
a number of other songs brought huge success in the early 1960s,
died Friday. She was 58.
    Jackson, who had breast cancer, died at Kaiser Permanente
Medical Center, her cousin Evelyn Jackson said from her home in
Goldsboro, N.C.
    The Shirelles, composed of Jackson, Shirley Alston Reeves,
Beverly Lee and the late Addie ``Micki'' Harris, began their career
at a high school talent show in Passaic, N.J., in 1957, singing
their own composition, ``I Met Him on Sunday.''
    A classmate who heard them told her mother, independent record
producer Florence Greenberg, who helped them record the song the
following year.
    Aided by legendary producer Phil Specter, they turned out a
string of hits through the early '60s, including ``Tonight's The
Night,'' ``Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow,'' ``Soldier Boy,''
``Baby It's You,'' and ``Dedicated to the One I Love,'' the latter
featuring Jackson on lead vocal.
    Their songs, like those of several other popular ``girl groups''
of the early '60s including Specter's Ronettes, were notable for
their tight harmonies, bouncy upbeat lyrics and lush musical
arrangements known as Specter's ``Wall of Sound.''
    Jackson, who was born in North Carolina, moved to New Jersey as
a child, where she sang in church and with friends.
    After their early success with ``I Met Him on Sunday,'' all four
of the group dropped out of high school to pursue their musical
careers, each earning diplomas later.
--------
    NICE, France (AP) -- Claude Autant-Lara, the French director
known for his caustic jabs at bourgeois society and his right-wing
political stances late in life, died early Saturday in a clinic in
Antibes, a funeral home said. He was 98.
    One of France's most prolific directors, Autant-Lara directed
more than 30 films, many of them classics of 1940s and 1950s French
cinema.
    His career reached its height in the 1950s with films such as
``Le Diable au Corps,'' or ``Devil in the Flesh,'' which
scandalized France with its account of a schoolboy's affair with a
woman whose husband was away at war.
    Many attacked the film, calling it pro-adultery and antifamily,
but Autant-Lara had already found his voice as a provocateur.
    Born in 1901 to an architect father and an actress mother,
Autant-Lara discovered the cinema while studying at France's
prestigious School of Fine Arts. He made his first short films in
the 1920s before heading to Hollywood in the 1930s to supervise the
French versions of Buster Keaton films, among others.
    Some of his best-known works include ``Le Rouge et le Noir,'' or
``The Red and the Black,'' based on Stendahl's novel, and ``La
Traversee de Paris,'' or ``Four Bags Full,'' an account of two men
stealthily crossing Paris at night during the German occupation.
    Other films include ``Le Comte de Monte Christo,'' and ``En Cas
de Malheur,'' or ``Love is My Profession,'' with Brigitte Bardot
and Jean Gabin.
    Autant-Lara was not popular with New Wave filmmakers such as
Francois Truffaut, who criticized his films as outdated and scorned
his reliance on the dialogue and plots of his screenwriters.
    By the 1970s Autant-Lara's career was in decline, and his last
film, ``Gloria,'' was largely ignored by critics.
    The filmmaker took the spotlight again during the 1980s when he
came out in support of far-right politician Jean-Marie Le Pen.
    Autant-Lara himself was elected to the European Parliament in
1989 as a member of the far-right National Front, though he soon
resigned after the monthly magazine ``Globe'' quoted him as saying
a French politician who survived a concentration camp had been
``missed'' by the Nazis.
    Autant-Lara, who spent much of his later life in the South of
France, died after a long illness, the funeral home said. His
funeral will be held privately at his family's request.
-------
    JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- John Vincent Imbragulio, who produced the
classic rock 'n' roll single ``Sea Cruise'' and others during his
half century in the music business, died Friday of heart failure.
He was 74.
    Imbragulio owned Ace Records, Ace Music Publishers and Avanti
Records, his latest venture.
    Imbragulio's first record label got him noticed in the 1950s by
Art Rupe of Speciality Records. From there, he would work with Rupe
and soon after make Ace Records his next label.
    ``Ace Record Co. was New Orleans' only independent record
company at the time,'' said close friend Woody Sistrunk. ``It was
with Ace Records that he produced Huey 'Piano' Smith's 'Rockin'
Pneumonia' and the 'Boogie Woogie Flu' and later, Frankie Ford's
'Sea Cruise,' which has remained one of the most requested rock 'n'
roll songs of all time.''
-----
                            *Todd Karns
    AJIJIC, Mexico (AP) -- Todd Karns, who made his biggest mark on
the movies with a defining line in ``It's a Wonderful Life'' as the
older brother of Jimmy Stewart's George Bailey, died Saturday. He
was 79 and had cancer.
    Karns played Harry Bailey, who in the Christmas classic's final
scene made the memorable toast, ``To my big brother, George. The
richest man in town!''
    Karns appeared in many movies and television shows in the 1940s
and '50s, including ``The Caine Mutiny,'' ``China Venture,'' ``My
Foolish Heart'' and two films from the Andy Hardy series.
    He also appeared in the TV series ``Rocky King, Detective''
alongside his father, Roscoe Karns, whose acting career extended
from the mid-1910s to the 1960s.
    Karns, like his best-known movie character, was also a World War
II veteran.
    Karns and his wife moved to Ajijic, Mexico in 1971, located on
Lake Chapala, south of Guadalajara. They opened the Lakeside Little
Theater, an English-language theater where Karns produced and
directed for three decades.
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the breaks
Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:30:04 -0500



> no, that's just what they cost now. Import 12" singles are 10 bucks, US 12"
> singles are $6 or $7. The prices are comparable if you are buying them in
> New York or Paris, it doesn't matter. Don't forget, CD's are 17 bucks in
> the US (about 25 or 30 equivalent in Europe, about 30 to 35 in Japan;
> what's a new CD go for in Canada now.....Brian, Nat, Cheryl, Will?)

We in Canada seem to be pretty fortunate - a new CD here goes for around
$18 or $20 CDN or less, as a rule.(which is well under $14 US)  French
import CDs tend to cost close to the same price as domestic CDs in
Montreal, which is nice, although UK imports are pretty exorbitant...

I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will
cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France -
often as little as half as much!  Why are CD prices in Europe so
exorbitant?  Can anyone elighten me on this one?

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Subject: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad
Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:36:09 EST


Someone (Peter) just sent me an EMI Australia digitally remastered CD of
Mandingo's, "The Primeval Rhythm of Life".

The CD makes special note to mention that it was remixed in 1995 from the EMI
Sydney 1/4" Abbey Road Masters.  The thing that impressed me most is that the
liner notes mention that during the remastering they went out of their way to
preserve the SQ Quadraphonic matrix, so you can play the CD through a quad
decoder and it will play back Quad.  I knew it could be done, but this is the
first time I've seen it done and actually mentioned as a selling feature on
the CD.  By the way, the CD sounds great just in stereo, I can't wait to
track down a SQ decoder.

Has anyone else seen CDs that mention the fact that they were remastered from
quad originals and that the quad information in the recording is left intact?

-Roy


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Subject: (exotica) RE: Re: Breakbeat!
Date: 07 Feb 2000 10:00:44 -0600



Concerning the definition of breakbeat...

It probably has multiple meanings as I remember it being used to describe a
certain kind of tecno/house music too.. however..

I think the most correct term for breakbeat is a song whos beat has been
sampled to make another song...  good example that exotica fans might be
familiar with is the Incredible Bongo Band..  there song Apache was used
long ago in the Grandmaster Flash tune Apache and the big crazy drum and
bongo beat has been used ever since in dozens of hip hop songs.  Another of
their songs makes up the beat to the Beastie Boys "Loooking Down the Barrel
of a Gun".  There are a few Turtles songs like Buzzsaw and I'm Chief
Kamanawanalea  that have been used a lot.

There are a lot of great compilations out there which may have started this
thread such as the 'digging in the crates' series which features 10 old
tracks which range from exotica to soul which contain breakbeats that have
been used in hip-hop tracks.  It's fun to recognize the breakbeat used but
even when I don't the music is usually very good.  I've seen Les Baxter and
other exotica names on the Digging in the Crates compilations.


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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues
Date: 07 Feb 2000 08:12:41 -0800


>just bought "two for the road" and "our man in hollywood", 2 recent mancini
>reissues on RCA/BMG Spain. "two for the road" is not bad, but not as good
>as i hoped either: a couple of stand-out tracks, but also 3 slimey tracks
>that are too eazzzzzzzzzzy for me.
>
>"our man in hollywood" was a nice surprise, with only one so-so track, and
>several very good ones, in his typical sixties "Uniquely Mancini" sound:
>lush, but still with a nice groove.

If you like "Our Man In Hollywood", you would probably also like
"Combo!", "Uniquely Mancini", "Mancini '67", "The Blues and The Beat" and
other ones like this that feature his big band sound and excellent
arrangements.

>i didn't go for "high time". anyone can recommend that one?

I've got it, although be advised that's not one of the nine just released
in January by BMG/Spain.  It's been out for a little while.  The jewel
case insert in the back cover has a few typos on it ("The Nuty Professor"
instead of "The Nutty Professor", etc.)  The disc also has some
non-Mancini material on it that was used in the film (noteably Sammy
Cahn's "The Second Time Around").

Regards,
--bj
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Body Art at AMNH
Date: 07 Feb 2000 11:42:49 -0500


http://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/bodyart/

Body Art: Marks of Identity is a new exhibition at the
American Museum of Natural History exploring the
ways in which human beings around the world, past
and present, decorate their bodies. Celebrating both
cultural invention and individual artistry, Body Art:
Marks of Identity presents over 600 objects and many
images from around the world dating from c. 3000 B.C.
to the present, including superb sculptures, paintings,
contemporary and historical photographs, rare books,
engravings, and films. The exhibition
examines the historical and cultural significance
behind ancient and modern body art practices
including tattooing, piercing, body painting, body
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From: "mofo2148" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Breakbeats (the saga continues...)
Date: 07 Feb 2000 09:04:49 -0800



BREAKBEATS...

In the early 80's I used to buy "BREAKBEAT" records which would have
oh, maybe 10 cuts on each record.  Each piece would be a 2-8 bar loop
repeating (USUALLY NOT CHANGING UP).  For example... using the first
bar of APACHE or FUNKY DRUMMER or COLD SWEAT or IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT
or DANCE TO THE DRUMMERS BEAT and having it loop over and over (for
about 3 minutes!).  This made it easy (when you had 3 tables running
to let the beat play on the 3rd table and cut on 1 table and mix on
the other.  Or they were great to just put on and play while an MC
flowed over the beat. or to get two copies and do double ups.

I still have 2 copies of all my 80's 'Breakbeat' records.  The most
famous of these in the 80's was the "Beats Breaks & Scratches" series
by Simon Harris... (or actually these were the most 'commercial'). My
favorites (still to this day are the records that were put out by "The
45 King".  Then you had lame ones like Cameron Paul's series (ugh..)

These breakbeat records also did not always have to be a "percussion
loop"... they could incorporate rhythms also.  Gradually towards the
late 80's "Breakbeat" records tended to have more change-up's in the
cuts (like Coldcuts' breakbeat series or the excellent series, DJ
FOOD).  Basically "Breakbeat" is NOT new at all... it has just evolved
from the early 80's Breakbeat records.  And those early 80's Breakbeat
records evolved from... and they evolved from... and they evolved
from... etc....

It's funny... but Simon Harris actually re-issued some of those early
breakbeat records on CD now!  I still can't imagine using them on CD
though... how to you break the beat down or cut with it?  Believe
me... I hate the effect of cutting on a pro mix cd player... ugh...

hope this all helps.

-- Otis


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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues
Date: 07 Feb 2000 12:13:15 -0500


At 8:20 AM -0500 2/7/00, Johan Dada Vis wrote:

>i didn't go for "high time". anyone can recommend that one?

not one of his better efforts, imho

br cleve


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lee Hazlewood again
Date: 07 Feb 2000 18:41:42 +0100


Reader Geoff wrote:

> Saw a review of another Smells Like... re-release of a Lee Hazlewood LP,
> This time '13', reviewed in last Fridays guardian.  Sounds wonderful from
> the article.  It seems that these things are published a few weeks before
> the LP actually surfaces.  Does anyone have any details on this,  release
> date,  formats (esp Vinyl)?

It's out already. I saw the vinyl copy in my record shop, but didn't buy it,
because I have most of the songs on CD already.

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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6
Date: 07 Feb 2000 18:41:41 +0100


Moritz R wrote:

> > > Andreas Dorau & Moritz R:  Der letzte Popsong  "Poptics"
> >
> > Mo, what's this??
>
> It's what it says: The last pop song of the 20th century. And we wrote it.

Did you only do this one song together, or did you do a whole CD?

Marco

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From: [e-mail]
Subject:   Re:  (exotica) these are the 45 breaks
Date: 07 Feb 2000 13:40:44 EST



In a message dated 2/6/0 9:54:31 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>new
>45's are 4 or 5 dollars,

I guess that partly explains my Soul Record Detective Eddie "B"s shocked
reaction to seeing the group Big Jim's Border Crossing's 1973 failure called
"Good For Me Girl" listed in Discoveries for $150.00. (He knows the listing
guy and remembers GIVING him the record in 1980) Sorry if this is off
subject, but this list seems to like this sort of info, or at least I do! ...
DJJB


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From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad
Date: 08 Feb 2000 08:39:35 +1100


on 8/2/00 2:36 AM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Someone (Peter) just sent me an EMI Australia digitally remastered CD of
> Mandingo's, "The Primeval Rhythm of Life".
>
This cd was selling in Melbourne discounted to about $5.00 Australian
dollars (about $3.00 US) last year. It certainly does sound great.

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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeats (the saga continues...)
Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:26:41 +0000


mofo2148 wrote:
>
> BREAKBEATS...
>
> In the early 80's I used to buy "BREAKBEAT" records which would have
> oh, maybe 10 cuts on each record.  Each piece would be a 2-8 bar loop
> repeating (USUALLY NOT CHANGING UP).  For example... using the first
> bar of APACHE or FUNKY DRUMMER or COLD SWEAT or IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT
> or DANCE TO THE DRUMMERS BEAT and having it loop over and over (for
> about 3 minutes!).  This made it easy (when you had 3 tables running
> to let the beat play on the 3rd table and cut on 1 table and mix on
> the other.  Or they were great to just put on and play while an MC
> flowed over the beat. or to get two copies and do double ups.

I guess with the decline in DJing in Hip hop (along with breakdancing
and graffiti, leaving the MCs as the stars) breaks records have a
smaller market. The exponents seem to have moved towards 'turntablism'
and fancy scratching rather than cutting breaks back and forth. By
including whole tracks as most comps do now they get an audience of
listeners and 'normal' djs too, although with some of the tracks the two
bar break or whatever is by far the best bit, which can be disapointing.

The Ultimate Breaks and Beats series had full length tracks back in the
eighties, i believe, as did the Super Disco Brakes series.


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Breakbeat!
Date: 07 Feb 2000 16:45:02 -0500


At 12:59 PM 2/6/0, [e-mail] wrote:
>So breakbeat is simply when all other instrumentation stops and the drummer
>goes through his rolls and keeps the beat movin'?

Another tidbit for the definitions. I first heard the term in the 80s when
I saw Grandmaster Flash perform at a club in Ann Arbor--someone yelled,
"Breakbeat!" and the guys on the turntables started scratching and mixing.
And they mixed music, not only rhythm tracks--P-Funk, etc. That's what I
always thought breakbeat meant: get ready for some wicked mixin', turntable
style. Which seems to has evolved to mean mostly sampling. Wasn't there
also an 80s documentary about breakdancing called Breakbeat? It's like a
jungle sometimes, Sometimes I wonder how I keep from goin' under, uh-huh
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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeats (the saga continues...)
Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:36:24 +0000


All this reminds me, Blue Break Beats Vol 2 (blue note) is astoundingly
excellent, and converted me to jazz when it came out back in 94 or
something. It's jazz-funk stuff, but all pretty soulful and funky, and
not tepid fusion stuff as the genre can be sometimes, nor do you get the
feeling that the tracks are included because a famous track sampled
them. 10/10!

By a conversion, i mean I then realised that jazz was no longer random
notes...


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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) more burnin CD questions
Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:19:29 -0500


Is it true that if you have one of those stand-alone rewritable CD
recorders, that you can only play those CD's on that machine?
Or to say it another way, somebody told me that those more expensive CDR's,
on which you can make mistakes and re-record, are only playable on one of
those re-recordable machines.
If true, that sucks.  If true, what's the point of that machine?  That
means you'd still need ANOTHER recordable CD system to make dubs with.
If true, that totally screws up my fantasy/plans.
I'm sitting here making this tape "The Unison of Now", featuring the
Lettermen, Sandpipers, Anita Kerr Singers etc and almost drooling with
anticipation of the day I can "archive" and then dump these LP's.
Maybe minidisc is the solution?

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) more burnin CD questions
Date: 07 Feb 2000 17:11:35 -0800


>Is it true that if you have one of those stand-alone rewritable CD
>recorders, that you can only play those CD's on that machine?
>Or to say it another way, somebody told me that those more expensive CDR's,
>on which you can make mistakes and re-record, are only playable on one of
>those re-recordable machines.

Yes, that's true.

>If true, that sucks.  If true, what's the point of that machine?

That you can (supposedly) reuse/rewrite the discs instead of spending
money to buy write-once discs.  But, you are definitely tied to the CD-RW
machine for using them.  I've *heard* that DVD players can also read
CD-RWs, but I haven't tried that yet so that may not be true.  But if so,
DVD players would be the only other way you could play a CD-RW disc.

>That
>means you'd still need ANOTHER recordable CD system to make dubs with.
>If true, that totally screws up my fantasy/plans.
>I'm sitting here making this tape "The Unison of Now", featuring the
>Lettermen, Sandpipers, Anita Kerr Singers etc and almost drooling with
>anticipation of the day I can "archive" and then dump these LP's.
>Maybe minidisc is the solution?

I'm not sure what's the reason you could not just record your LPs to CD-R
instead of CD-RW (CD-R discs play in ALL my CD players (personal,
computer, home stereo magazine player, boom box, et al.)....

It's best to use CD-RW for repeatable data archiving, instead of music
archiving, since their discs cannot be played on regular CD players.  In
other words, for making weekly backups of your computer data and such,
CD-RW is the better way to go.  So it just depends on what your usage of
the discs is going to be.

I am in the midst of putting all my vinyl on CD-R right now, though it is
an ongoing project and time-consuming, and I do only 1-2 LPs at a time...

Regards,
--bj
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) more burnin CD questions
Date: 07 Feb 2000 20:30:09 -0500


>>almost drooling with
>>anticipation of the day I can "archive" and then dump these LP's.
>
>I am in the midst of putting all my vinyl on CD-R right now

I want one of these PhonOcord gizmos that Gus has documented, so I can
archive my CDs to 78rpm acetates.

http://www.shellac.org/phonocord/



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From: "Mike Horne" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Many thanks for musicblvd.com info!! (OT)
Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:01:53 -0500



-    Thanks all!
    Mike



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From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter
Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:38:15 -0800


Maybe the answer can be found here?

http://www.nodanw.com/shows_a/archy.htm

Archy the typing cockroach is a literary character, and the basis of a 1957
musical (see the Internet site).

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Date: 07 Feb 2000 22:44:47 -0500


>good example that exotica fans might be
>familiar with is the Incredible Bongo Band..  their song Apache was used
>long ago in the Grandmaster Flash tune Apache and the big crazy drum and
>bongo beat has been used ever since in dozens of hip hop songs.

Y'know, since this was mentioned the other day, I've been thinking: Wasn't
it The Sugarhill Gang that did "Apache"? I finally bothered to check at All
Music Guide, and yep, it was.

http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:23:01|PM&p=amg&sql=A28298

At least that's the version I was hearing "in the day" (as DJJimmyBee would
say).


Uh Hunga Hunga Hunga!

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 6
Date: 07 Feb 2000 19:49:39 +0100




Marco \\Kallie\\ Kalnenek wrote:

> Moritz R wrote:
>
> > > > Andreas Dorau & Moritz R:  Der letzte Popsong  "Poptics"
> > >
> > > Mo, what's this??
> >
> > It's what it says: The last pop song of the 20th century. And we wrote it.
>
> Did you only do this one song together, or did you do a whole CD?
>

Just this song.
Mo



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Subject: Re: (exotica) more burnin CD questions
Date: 07 Feb 2000 23:06:47 EST


Since the stand alone cdrs are one shot only deals it is very easy to make a
mistake.  The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get
it exactly right and then do a digital transfer to a regular cdr.  Once you
have done that you can erase the cdrw and start on your next project.

That's the beauty of the dual stand alone Philips cd machine.  It costs about
$500 buck, but since it has a player and a recorder on it (and the player
will play regular cds and cdrs and cdrws) you can sell your current cd player.

Philips has vowed to make all of thier future cd machines also able to play
cdrws, and claims that other companies are doing the same.

Larry


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Subject: Re: (exotica) more burnin CD questions
Date: 07 Feb 2000 20:15:42 -0800


>Since the stand alone cdrs are one shot only deals it is very easy to make a
>mistake.  The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get
>it exactly right and then do a digital transfer to a regular cdr.  Once you
>have done that you can erase the cdrw and start on your next project.

I just don't use my CD-RW in this way...the downside of them is that they
are a pain in the BUTT to erase, something I haven't heard mention here
at all.  You do not just "rerecord over them" like a cassette tape.  You
have to wait until they are erased by the laser which takes a lot longer.
 I have a CD-RW drive hooked up to my computer and each time I want to
reuse a disc, I have to wait almost 15-20 minutes before it's completely
erased "clean".

Be advised also that the CD-RW discs for the home stereo component
recorders are very expensive; anywhere from $7.00 to $20.00 *a piece*,
depending on where you get them.  They run about 4 bucks each for the
computer driven CD-RW drives.

Much easier on the nerves to use a $1.00 CD-R disc on your computer and
even if it turns out not the way you like, throw it away and use a new
one.  At least you aren't spending 7-20 bucks on each one!!  Do the
mixing/whatever on your hard drive with your sound files before burning
and then you don't have any waste whatsoever.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography
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From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Il Giaguaro  N 1  Out Now  IN ENGLISH & ITALIAN
Date: 07 Feb 2000 00:04:49 -0800


This is a fantastic new mag from Italy
Italy currently has the most vibrant Lounge scene in the world


     "Il Giaguaro" leaps into the new Century with a  glorious first
issue,
brilliant and full of  appealing articles!
     "Il Giaguaro" has become bi-lingual, English and Italian, moving
into
an International habitat much more suitable for magazine of this
nature.  We
are also announcing the beginning of a new series of articles dedicated
to
preserving and enhancing the "Cult" T.V. series of the the 60's & 70's.
We
will start the always witty and cunning duo of  John Steed and Emma Peel
in
"The Avengers".
     There is also an exclusive interview with the ever popular Jazz
musician, Amedeo Tommasi  who will tell about his musical adventures
with
legend, Chet Baker!
     PLUS,  Journalist Michael Pergolani s 1974 London interview talking

with the unique artist, Francis Bacon.
     Movie Director Luigi Cozzi introduces a very young Dario Argento
with
an interview in 1970.
Concrete Music: "A Trip into the Music of the Fixed Sound" ,  the birth
of
the Italian Fashion,  and a bit of The Evergreen Porsche cars are just
some
of the fascinating articles in this issue.
     As a finale we conclude this issue of with a 7  vinyl release of
the
1966 film, "Fume di Londre" (Smoke of London).
The first movie of  Italian comedian Alberto Sordi and music composed by
the
World famous, Piero Piccioni!  An exclusive listening pleasure to the
readers of "Il Giaguaro" are previously unreleased versions of  "Mr:
Dante
Fontana"  and "Richmond Bridge",  featuring  the chrous group, " I
Cantori
Moderni di Alessandro Alessandroni".
     We are sure that readers everywhere  will devour this magazine to
it s
delicious end!
 And remember!  This is the year of the Jaguar!

Black Cat Records News

The Psych Jazzy Beat of  "I Marc 4" BCR 0101 DLP / CD rom  out now
The Marc 4 was responsible for having the greatest, most incredible
Italian
soundtrack style. This jazz-beat combo were known to play and record
with
some of the best known and most admired composers of this genre; from
Ennio
Morricone to Piero Umiliani. The Marc 4, for the most part, were the
band
who recorded 99% of Armando Travajoli's compositions.
The Marc 4 recorded serveral albums as "I Marc 4" on their label
"Nelson"
from 1970-1976, in this unique compilation you can find their best
recordings that captures their innovative sound; their diversity shines
with
styles ranging from Jimmy Smith to Italian Bossa-nova to experimental
tunes
with strange special effects.
The unique sound of "I Marc 4" comes from omnipresent Hammond C3 of
Antonello Vannucchi with the rhythm section of Roberto Podio on drums
and
Maurizio Majorana on bass, not to forget the real soul of the band,
Carlo
Pes on guitar. On this album you can catch the pure spirit of genius
with
these masterpieces from the Italian film music files.
In 1971 the composer Romolo Frano was working on the soundtrack of a TV
serial "Il Segno del Comando" (a real "cult" TV serial for today's
B-movie
lovers), he chose 5 tracks from the Marc 4 library music album on
'Nelson'
records, two of the five tracks are in this compilation; Distortion Mind
is
a beat song with wild fuzz guitar and groovy bass and Key Board has a
dreaming flute with the soft Hammond sounds of Mr. Vannucchi. These two
tracks are not to be missed on this compilation, as is the case for the
rest
of the album.

ITALIAN LOUNGE-BEAT PARTY BCR 0100 DLP / CD rom  out now
 ITALIAN LOUNGE-BEAT PARTY is a compilation of Italian soundtracks from
the
mid 60's to the early 70's. In those years the Italian film music
produced
the best sound ever and had superior quality productions. Thanks to
composers like Armando Trovajoli, Piero Piccioni, Alessandro
Alessandroni,
all selected in this compilation, the Italian film music found itself in

living a second youth, in the scene of Lounge and Easy Listening music.
More and more DJ's and bands are inspired by this rich discography to
make
their sound more creative and different from the rest. In this
compilation
ensemble by the 'never stopping' Claudio Fuiano (compiler and executive
producer of a dozen lounge-beat compilations around the globe) and Al
Casey
(DJ and editor of the magazine "Il Giaguaro"), nobody will be
disappointed.
Previously unreleased tracks like Humanity and Il Giovane Normale by
Armando
Trovajoli, the first one is a real shaker and the second is a pop-beat
track
with singing in English. These tracks will take you straight to the 'Red

Carpet' nightclub beneath the ruins of the magic city called ROMA. It's
an
album to listen, to dance and to dream to.

Coming Soon
"Fumo di Londra" OST music by Piero Piccioni CD and DLP
"Sonorissima Vol.1 The Italian Library Music Party"

Il Giaguaro & Black Cat Rec.
Alessandro Casella
Via Castruccio Castracane 3
00176 Roma, Italy
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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) CDolly clone.....
Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:45:51 +1100



>Since the stand alone cdrs are one shot only deals it is very easy to make a
>mistake.  The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get
>it exactly right and then do a digital transfer to a regular cdr.  Once you
>have done that you can erase the cdrw and start on your next project.
>
>That's the beauty of the dual stand alone Philips cd machine.  It costs about
>$500 buck, but since it has a player and a recorder on it (and the player
>will play regular cds and cdrs and cdrws) you can sell your current cd player.

I do my burning on a stand-alone Philips, and I love it. HOWEVER, and this
is a big however, if you burn a CD-RW to get it 'just right', then make a
digital clone of it to another CD, that gives YOU a perfect copy, but if you
want to make digital copies of THAT one, you're outta luck...copy-coding
software in these audio-only things won't let you clone a clone.  The only
way you can then do it would be to sit there with it all the way through,
manually forwarding the track numbers and setting the record levels like a
tape-deck, and you lose the 'perfect digital' copy.

Of course, with vinyl most of that is horseshit anyway, since the 0=silence
thing doesn't apply.  In fact, if I'm making a CD comp, and some of the
source material is on CD, I will put it into the recorder via the analog
inputs, so that my finished disc is the first digital copy. I can then spin
clones for people whenever by setting it up and letting it go.  Does this
make any sense?

I've never used a CD-RW on this machine, cheap date that I am, and am
therefore consigned to screaming hoarse over the fifth screwed-up attempt to
burn a good comp.  I'm replete with party coasters though...they're always a
hit.

Keith

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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ****MOOG ALERT****Announcing....
Date: 08 Feb 2000 23:07:23 +1100


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Yes, kids and kidettes,

The spanking new CD comp  MOOG SOOP FOUR: MUCKDE FOOG has been set into
laser history!  Here's the track line-up of my latest fandango:

01    Beaver & Krause    SLOW-MOTION (NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE GOING)   from
=B3The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic Music=B2  1968
02    Sounds Galactic    SPINNING WHEEL   arranged by John Keating; from =B3A=
n
Astromusical Odyssey=B2   London Phase 4  1971?
03    Peter Fink    City Traffic   from =B3Major Production Music # 6080=B2
Major Records/Thomas J. Valentino  1973
04    Hugo Montenegro    QUADIMODO    from =B3Love Theme from The Godfather=B2 =

RCA Victor  1972
05    Beaver & Krause    WHITE SOUND COMPOSITION
06    Electric Coconut    CHIRPY CHIRPY CHEEP CHEEP    from =B3POPCORN and
Other Switched-On Smash Hits=B2   Axis / EMI  1973?
07    Fred Weinberg    ODE TO BILLY JOE    from =B3The Weinberg Method of
Non-Synthetic Electronic Rock=B2   Anvil  1968?
08    Gershon Kingsley / Hanna Aroni    HASHANA, HABA=B9AH    demo-only 45
single   Vanguard  1970?
09    Peter Fink    AFRICAN TRAVELING MUSIC
10    Richard Hayman    MAGIC CARPET RIDE    45 single from =B3CINEMAGIC
SOUNDS=B2   Command  1968
11    Beaver & Krause    TRANSIENT GENERATOR, AMPLITUDE, FREQUENCY AND
TIMBRE MODULATING IN SLOW-MOTION
12    Hugo Montenegro    Love Theme from The Godfather
13    The 18th Century Concepts    LITTLE TOY SOLDIER    from =B3In The 20th
Century Bag=B2   Sidewalk  1968
14    Fred Miller    Ravel =B3Pavanne=B2    from =B3The Sounds of Love ...A to Zz=
z
- Sensuously SINthesized=B2   Yorkshire  1972
15    The Zeet Band    BEAVER BOOGIE    from =B3Moogie Woogie=B2   Chess  1969
16    Claude Denjean    KISS THIS    from =B3Open Circuit=B2   London  1973    =

17    Beaver & Krause    frequency modulation: periodic: VIBRATO (SPEED
INCREASES AS PITCH RISES)
18    Jeff Haskell    UNDER YOUR SPELL AGAIN    from =B3Switched-On Buck=B2
Capitol  1970?
19    Peter Nero    WINDMILLS OF YOUR MIND    from =B3Hits from Hair to
Hollywood=B2   Columbia  1969
20    Peter Fink    LIVING HIGH
21    Hugo Montenegro    Medley: if i were a rich man; fiddler on the roof =

 from =B3Mammy Blue=B2   RCA Victor  1971
22    Electric Coconut    JEEPSTER
23    Claude Denjean    alone again, naturally    from =B3Open Circuit=B2
London  1973
24    Gershon Kingsley=B9s First Moog Quartet    eleanor rigby    from
=B3Gershon Kingsley=B9s First Moog Quartet=B2   Audio Fidelity  1970
25    Beaver & Krause    frequency modulation: Transient; up a third, back
to pitch
 from =B3The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic Music=B2  1968
26    Peter Fink    light industry rock
27    Dave Fredericks    mockingbird hill   from promotional 7=B2 33 1/3 RPM
record  =B3ARP: The Arp Family of Synthesizers=B2  1970?
28    Fred Weinberg    MUCKDE FOOG
29    Peter Fink    boston baby bounce
30    Beaver & Krause    frequency modulation: Transient; down a third, bac=
k
to pitch
31    The 18th Century Concepts    i got rhythm    from =B3Off On A 20th
Century Cycle=B2   Sidewalk  1969

A  gurgling 72 minute lump of humming moogery to savor alone...or with a
friend.

Sorry if there's some typographical weirdness up there, if there is it's
from the transfer from Quark into the mail program.

Anyhow, it's an explosive one...and anyone on the list who would like it to
grace their lives may have it for a slightly altered version of the deal I
offered before.  Here goes:  for each Moog Soop you'd like, please send me =
3
CDR's...one for the dub, and two for me to keep.  This is necessary for my
sanity, I discovered, 'cause if the CDR mucks up in the recorder, I'm
instantly out my 'profit'.  Call it insurance, or whatever, there's the
deal.  I will also require enough postage to get it back from Australia to
where you are...anyone interested, we'll work that out individually.

Soon I'll post my other comps of similar genres and we'll have another roun=
d
of fun!

Cheers, friends,

Keith

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<BR>
01    Beaver & Krause    SLOW-MOTION (NEG=
ATIVE AND POSITIVE GOING)   from =B3The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic=
 Music=B2  1968<BR>
02    Sounds Galactic    SPINNING WHEEL  =
; arranged by John Keating; from =B3An Astromusical Odyssey=B2   =
London Phase 4  1971?<BR>
03    Peter Fink    City Traffic   =
from =B3Major Production Music # 6080=B2  Major Records/Thomas J. Valentino=
  1973<BR>
04    Hugo Montenegro    QUADIMODO  &nbs=
p; from =B3Love Theme from The Godfather=B2   RCA Victor  19=
72<BR>
05    Beaver & Krause    WHITE SOUND COMP=
OSITION <BR>
06    Electric Coconut    CHIRPY CHIRPY CHEEP=
 CHEEP    from =B3POPCORN and Other Switched-On Smash Hits=B2 &nb=
sp; Axis / EMI  1973?<BR>
07    Fred Weinberg    ODE TO BILLY JOE  =
;  from =B3The Weinberg Method of Non-Synthetic Electronic Rock=B2 &nb=
sp; Anvil  1968?<BR>
08    Gershon Kingsley / Hanna Aroni    HASHA=
NA, HABA=B9AH    demo-only 45 single   Vanguard  =
;1970?<BR>
09    Peter Fink    AFRICAN TRAVELING MUSIC<B=
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10    Richard Hayman    MAGIC CARPET RIDE &nb=
sp;  45 single from =B3CINEMAGIC SOUNDS=B2   Command  1=
968<BR>
11    Beaver & Krause    TRANSIENT GENERA=
TOR, AMPLITUDE, FREQUENCY AND TIMBRE MODULATING IN SLOW-MOTION<BR>
12    Hugo Montenegro    Love Theme from The =
Godfather<BR>
13    The 18th Century Concepts    LITTLE TOY=
 SOLDIER    from =B3In The 20th Century Bag=B2   Sidewa=
lk  1968<BR>
14    Fred Miller    Ravel =B3Pavanne=B2  &n=
bsp; from =B3The Sounds of Love ...A to Zzz - Sensuously SINthesized=B2 &nb=
sp; Yorkshire  1972<BR>
15    The Zeet Band    BEAVER BOOGIE  &n=
bsp; from =B3Moogie Woogie=B2   Chess  1969<BR>
16    Claude Denjean    KISS THIS   =
; from =B3Open Circuit=B2   London  1973    &=
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17    Beaver & Krause    frequency modula=
tion: periodic: VIBRATO (SPEED INCREASES AS PITCH RISES)<BR>
18    Jeff Haskell    UNDER YOUR SPELL AGAIN =
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19    Peter Nero    WINDMILLS OF YOUR MIND &n=
bsp;  from =B3Hits from Hair to Hollywood=B2   Columbia &nbs=
p;1969<BR>
20    Peter Fink    LIVING HIGH <BR>
21    Hugo Montenegro    Medley: if i were a =
rich man; fiddler on the roof    from =B3Mammy Blue=B2  &nbs=
p;RCA Victor  1971<BR>
22    Electric Coconut    JEEPSTER<BR>
23    Claude Denjean    alone again, naturall=
y    from =B3Open Circuit=B2   London  1973<BR>
24    Gershon Kingsley=B9s First Moog Quartet   &nbs=
p;eleanor rigby    from =B3Gershon Kingsley=B9s First Moog Quarte=
t=B2   Audio Fidelity  1970<BR>
25    Beaver & Krause    frequency modula=
tion: Transient; up a third, back to pitch<BR>
 from =B3The Nonesuch Guide to Electronic Music=B2  1968<BR>
26    Peter Fink    light industry rock <BR>
27    Dave Fredericks    mockingbird hill &nb=
sp; from promotional 7=B2 33 1/3 RPM record  =B3ARP: The Arp Family of=
 Synthesizers=B2  1970?<BR>
28    Fred Weinberg    MUCKDE FOOG  &nbs=
p; <BR>
29    Peter Fink    boston baby bounce<BR>
30    Beaver & Krause    frequency modula=
tion: Transient; down a third, back to pitch<BR>
31    The 18th Century Concepts    i got rhyt=
hm    from =B3Off On A 20th Century Cycle=B2   Sidewalk=
  1969<BR>
<BR>
A  gurgling 72 minute lump of humming moogery to savor alone...or with=
 a friend.<BR>
<BR>
Sorry if there's some typographical weirdness up there, if there is it's fr=
om the transfer from Quark into the mail program.<BR>
<BR>
Anyhow, it's an explosive one...and anyone on the list who would like it to=
 grace their lives may have it for a slightly altered version of the deal I =
offered before.  Here goes:  for each Moog Soop you'd like, please=
 send me <B>3 CDR's...</B>one for the dub, and two for me to keep.  Thi=
s is necessary for my sanity, I discovered, 'cause if the CDR mucks up in th=
e recorder, I'm instantly out my 'profit'.  Call it insurance, or whate=
ver, there's the deal.  I will also require enough postage to get it ba=
ck from Australia to where you are...anyone interested, we'll work that out =
individually.<BR>
<BR>
Soon I'll post my other comps of similar genres and we'll have another roun=
d of fun!<BR>
<BR>
Cheers, friends,<BR>
<BR>
Keith<BR>
<BR>
****************************<BR>
http://www.lobue-art.com<BR>
A virtual gallery and info<BR>
site for the artwork and <BR>
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE<BR>
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From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) SA Spree
Date: 08 Feb 2000 12:13:58 -0000


I got this e-mail from my friend Christian from Argentina,  he came over to
the UK and was generally appalled by the high prices for vinyl,  this sounds
like it more than makes up for it...


I've just come back from my holidays -January is holiday time here, hot
summer. I was in the south of Africa -south Africa, Namibia, Lesotho.
regarding music, its an incredible paradise for vinyl! i hunted great south
African EZ -50s, 60s, 70s-, and incredible us and UK stuff for a  bit more
than coins... e.g., tom Jones circa 1964, 50 p; beach boys original
releases, 70 p; Marianne Faithfull first album, 40 p; Francoise Hardy's
French and English albums, 1 L; Duane Eddy's original 1958 release, 30 p. i
got a Ann Margaret-al Hirt record, "the beauty and the beard", that I've
always read about, but have never actually seen.
carrying back the stuff was a torture -60 pounds of vinyl...

Christian.....

I'm envious to say the least
El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Leeteg Black Velvet Painting at eBay
Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:32:31 +0100


Otto wrote:

> I think that is very reasonable
> though I'm not so sure it was a Leeteg
> for two reasons which are outlined in the new book
> One - many artists painted black velvet nudes and signed them as Leeted to
> sell to tourists (ie forgeries) and that signature doesn't match Leetegs
> Two His later tourist works usually had a nameplate on them and if it is in
> its original frame it should be marked with the Leeteg logo though it is
> very possible that it was not sold via Leetegs agent Barney West and
> therefore would not have either of these

I have my doubts too. Somehow the style of this one was too "rural" for a
Leeteg; but that's only my very personal impression...

Mo



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Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the breaks
Date: 08 Feb 2000 08:54:47 EST


In a message dated 2/7/00 10:31:03 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will
 cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France -
 often as little as half as much!  Why are CD prices in Europe so
 exorbitant?  Can anyone elighten me on this one? >>


The reason is that record companies often sell their albums to exporters for
a lower export price, the reason being is that these albums will be on a
one-way sale (there will be no returns as they will be sold outside the
country) and so there is a non-existent backend cost involved in the selling
and marketing of albums exported.

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Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:01:00 EST


In a message dated 2/7/00 10:38:36 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Has anyone else seen CDs that mention the fact that they were remastered
from
 quad originals and that the quad information in the recording is left
intact? >>

As the chances of running into someone who has a true quadraphonic system is
the same as running into into an airline hijacker who has been struck by
lightning, this is rarely done. What I find far more interesting and useable
are the CDs that have been mastered for surround sound. There have been
several classic Hollywood score CDs including a coupole of Mancini titles
that have done this, and as it is far easier to find someone who has a home
theatre style set-up the easier it is to truly experience this enchanced
sound process. By the way, unlike quad Surrouind discs have the rear speakers
utilized as a more spacial sound effect (the major volume source still being
the front speakers) rather than my understanding with quad which was to fully
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From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Batik
Date: 08 Feb 2000 14:17:18 -0000


I was listening to Wout Steenhuis version of the song 'Batik' last night,
from his (70's?) LP beyond the reef.  Really quite beautiful and a cut above
everything else of his that I've heard.  I wonder if anyone can tell me
anything about the song.

Thanks


3rd time back to the grandmaster and I'm bored with the breaks now.
wikki wikki wikki
El Maestro Con Queso

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Subject: Re: (exotica) these are the breaks
Date: 08 Feb 2000 15:21:20 +0100




[e-mail] wrote:

> In a message dated 2/7/00 10:31:03 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:
>
> << I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will
>  cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France -
>  often as little as half as much!  Why are CD prices in Europe so
>  exorbitant?  Can anyone elighten me on this one? >>
>
> The reason is that record companies often sell their albums to exporters for
> a lower export price, the reason being is that these albums will be on a
> one-way sale (there will be no returns as they will be sold outside the
> country) and so there is a non-existent backend cost involved in the selling
> and marketing of albums exported.
>

This is the first explanation of this phenomenon I have ever heard that makes
sense. Thanks, Ashley

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Subject: (exotica) fwd: EDITORIAL: "A Musical Shakeout"
Date: 08 Feb 2000 06:40:22 -0800



********************************************************************
EDITORIAL: "A Musical Shakeout" by Sorcha Ni hEilidhe
         <http://www.nua.ie/surveys/analysis/weekly_editorial.html>
********************************************************************

There were over one billion music downloads in 1999, "mp3" replaced
"sex" as the most searched for query on the Internet and what
was the
Big Five record labels became the Big Four.

The major labels have reacted badly to the birth of digital music
in
general and rather than embracing new channels and new models
afforded
by the Internet, they have behaved like petulant children and
sued any
companies suspected of being innovative in the market.

In response to the Internet, the only ostensible strategy the
majors
seem to have employed is; bond together, create mega-companies
and hope
it will all go away. Polygram ran to Universal, Sony are running
to BMG
Entertainment EMI ran to Warner Bros. but free music on the Net
didn't
go away and neither did the inexorable demand for it.

The proliferation of mobile devices and interactive TV means
that free music is no longer just available to nerds and geeks
but
to over 250 million people worldwide and rising. Clearly this
is
threatening. The industry has traditionally been centred around
products
and clearly defined distribution channels, now it has to find
new models
to stay afloat. Where once music was a product, now it is content
and
new rules apply wherein brand and consistency become paramount.

The Big Four are scared as hell for a good reason. The Internet
fundamentally challenges their century-long hegemony of music.
The artist can now liaise with the consumer independent of the
record
company. The consumer can now liaise with the artist independent
of the
record company. And then there's all those cheeky Net companies
churning
out new music formats, stealing their music and giving it away
for free.
Technology companies are getting in on it and everyone is ignoring
the
majors. Ericsson have even developed a prototype phone with an
mp3
player attached to it. What's the world coming to?

For the full story, go to:
http://www.nua.ie/surveys/analysis/weekly_editorial.html


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Subject: (exotica) Poetic Cockroach
Date: 08 Feb 2000 06:55:38 -0800


I don't know the piece of music you are refering to but it is taken from Don Marquis' book of poems, Archy and Mahitabel. Archy is a cockroach and the reincarnation of the poet Villon. He hops from one key to the other on Marquis' typewriter late at night. Because he has no way of hitting the 'shift' key, it is all in lower case letters. Hope that helps somewhat!  ~~Paul


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Chaino/Kaino?.......
Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:04:45 -0500


Picked up a "Bongo/Percussion" album featuring "Kaino." The album has that =
"cut from colored paper" sixties graphic style of a pair of hands whacking =
a bongo drum.

This was on someone's "for sale" list just last week or so - the record's =
pretty dull (dull arrangements with little but percussion in them), but I =
was wondering if the name "Chaino" carried enough weight that someone =
would try to mimic his output.......sort of like the Bruce "Li"'s etc. who =
attempted to cash in on Bruce Lee's success in the movies.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad
Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:42:33 EST


In a message dated 02/08/2000 9:01:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< As the chances of running into someone who has a true quadraphonic system
is
 the same as running into into an airline hijacker who has been struck by
 lightning, this is rarely done. What I find far more interesting and useable
 are the CDs that have been mastered for surround sound.  >>

I like the surround idea also.  Finding folks with a quad decoder may be a
rarity, but the decoders are dirty cheap when you find them, so it's
certainly a novelty worth having.  In the cases where the SQ Quad matrix has
already been put on the masters, it seems like a nice element to preserve.  I
was just surprised when I saw a fairly recent release that the mastering
engineers went out of their way to even address the anachronistic world of
Quadraphonics.

-Roy


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Subject: (exotica) [obits]Keith McReynolds,Lonesome Dave,Doug Henning
Date: 08 Feb 2000 10:49:58 -0500


Keith McReynolds, bass player in Jim & Jesse's Virginia Boys, and son
of Jesse McReynolds, died February 3rd from complications of MS.  He
was 44.
http://www.jimandjesse.com/
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:39:40|AM&p=amg&sql=A95366
---
Lonesome Dave Peverett, Foghat's lead singer, songwriter, and guitarist, passed away Monday
morning, February 7, 2000 due to complications of his battle with cancer.
Age 57
http://www.foghat.com/
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:39:40|AM&p=amg&sql=B114070
---
ABC radio has reported the death of magician Doug Henning, of liver
cancer.
http://www.doughenning.com/splash.htm
---
February 8, 2000
Doris Kenner-Jackson, 58, Singer In the
Original Shirelles Foursome
By ANN POWERS,NYTimes
Doris Kenner-Jackson, a founding member of the Shirelles, one of the
first and most emotionally affecting of pop's girl groups, died on
Friday at a hospital in Sacramento, Calif. She was 58.
Full obit at: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-d-jackson.html
and http://elvispelvis.com/dorisjackson.htm
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Subject: (exotica) RE: Breakbeat! Apache..
Date: 08 Feb 2000 09:47:47 -0600



>good example that exotica fans might be
>familiar with is the Incredible Bongo Band..  their song Apache was used
>long ago in the Grandmaster Flash tune Apache and the big crazy drum and
>bongo beat has been used ever since in dozens of hip hop songs.

>Y'know, since this was mentioned the other day, I've been thinking: Wasn't
>it The Sugarhill Gang that did "Apache"? I finally bothered to check at All
>Music Guide, and yep, it was.


That's right..  my bad.  Hard to recall since the early GF+Furious 5 tracks
were
released on Sugar Hill Records and all the records looked the same!

Plus I seem to remember more than 3 rappers on that track, but it's been a
while since I've listened to it.  Maybe I should dig in my own crates for a
while.

SPIN ON YOUR BACK

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Subject: Re: (exotica) fwd: EDITORIAL:
Date: 08 Feb 2000 11:16:41 -0500


>The artist can now liaise with the consumer independent of the
>record company. The consumer can now liaise with the artist >independent of the record company. And then there's all those cheeky


Of course this has been true since at least the 1950s when some artists started running their own labels.  The speed may be a bit quicker but the question is how many musicians want or are even capable of running their own labels.  How many can promote their own recordings or even get the money to make them in the first place?  And as music fans and historians know much better than most computer people, labels are more than just monetary clearing houses.  Do you have any associations with names like Sun, Blue Note, Gannett, Homestead, SST, New Albion, Westbound, Commodore, Deutsch Grammophon, etc?

Like so many techno-boosting articles/claims, the writers of this sort of editorial are not only historically ignorant but think it doesn't apply anyway.  After all, film was going to destroy theatre, TV drive out movies (or TV news newspapers), radio meant nobody would buy records, videotape meant nobody will go out to the movies, etc.  There are just too many factors for any prediction to be generally even worth hearing, otherwise we (in the US at least) would be watching Betamaxes on our PAL TVs and listening to DATs in our car.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad
Date: 08 Feb 2000 08:41:22 -0800 (PST)



The 2 Mandingo reissues really rock out in a wild way.  I'd love to hear a
quad version.   On Mardis Gras day, our carnival club, Mondo Kayo (pronounced
k-eye- yo )  will play Mandingo cuts on an enormous sound sytem which
actually sets off car alarms as we pass by.  I can't wait to see what the 100
members think and watch the crowd as Mandingo beats with a doppler effect,
pass them by..

For great Brazilian beats, try Le Guepe Vol 3.  An amazing collection of
French/Brazilian cuts, which I think Johan already mentioned.   This is
really one of the hottest releases of last year, along with Mandingo.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Date: 08 Feb 2000 12:02:42 -0500


At 10:44 PM -0500 2/7/00, m.ace wrote:

>Y'know, since this was mentioned the other day, I've been thinking: Wasn't
>it The Sugarhill Gang that did "Apache"? I finally bothered to check at All
>Music Guide, and yep, it was.

yup, it was. That was as abig a song in the early days of rap as Chic's
"Good Times" was. The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,
back in the early 60's (forgot which year)

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) OSTs
Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:02:41 -0500


Any comments on these recent Original Soundtrack releases?:

http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:47:33|PM&p=amg&sql=A461316
Bacharach/David's "Isn't She Great"
----
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:47:33|PM&p=amg&sql=A460231
Air's "The Virgin Suicides"
----
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:47:33|PM&p=amg&sql=A445883
Aimee Mann's "Magnolia"
----
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:47:33|PM&p=amg&sql=A444949
REM's "Man on the Moon"
[jest kiddin'!]

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) post-Prima TV
Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:46:54 -0500


So did anyone catch the Louis Prima TV extravaganza Saturday night? Reactions?

I thought the documentary was pretty good. They let the musical numbers
play out at nearly full length, rather than severely truncated like a lot
of latter-day documentaries. I didn't get much of a feel for what Louis was
like "as a person," but from what was said, it seems that he kept that side
of life private. Keely Smith really did have a unique stage persona.

I found the movie, "Hey Boy! Hey Girl!" quaintly surreal, especially the
last 20 minutes. A definite 50s sitcom feeling. Strange how everyone else
in the act got to be themselves, but Keely had to be a character... Dorothy
something. Also strange watching the evil senator from "The Manchurian
Candidate" as the kindly parish priest. Of course that guy's been in a lot
of movies... maybe "The President's Analyst" too. But I digress...


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter
Date: 08 Feb 2000 19:42:31 +0100


yep, that's it: "Archy and mehitabel" by one Don Marquis. thanx, folks!

        Johan

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the slap fight continues
Date: 08 Feb 2000 13:51:36 -0500


Tying in with Lou's earlier biz post, MP3.COM has now counter-sued the
RIAA. Story here:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000208/wr/music_mp_1.html

Text of the law suit here:
http://mp3.com/news/570.html?hparticle0



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From: [e-mail] (B.R. Rolya)
Subject: (exotica) Euro vs. US cd prices
Date: 08 Feb 2000 14:25:13 -0500 (EST)



>In a message dated 2/7/00 10:31:03 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:
><< I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will
> cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France -
> often as little as half as much!  Why are CD prices in Europe so
> exorbitant?  Can anyone elighten me on this one? >>

and Ashley responded:
>The reason is that record companies often sell their albums to exporters for
>a lower export price, the reason being is that these albums will be on a
>one-way sale (there will be no returns as they will be sold outside the
>country) and so there is a non-existent backend cost involved in the selling
>and marketing of albums exported.

Actually alot of it has to to with taxes (VAT) that exist at all stages of
cd production and sales and which are then passed on to the consumer in
Europe.  Also, record companies are required to pay mechanical royalties to
the artists on all *manufactured* copies regardless of whether or not
they've been sold whereas in the US, mechanical royalties are paid only on
copies sold.  Finally, distributors do a lot more promotion work in Europe
and put a much higher mark up on cds that they sell to stores in order to
compensate them for promo work done.

All of this (and more) unfortunately adds up to incredibly high prices for
a domestic release.


- BR
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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Date: 08 Feb 2000 14:26:17 EST



In a message dated 2/8/0 12:19:58 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,
>back in the early 60's (forgot which year)

I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in
January,1961. Maybe he cashed in on the Innggaammaarr Johhaannssenn craze
after he KO'd Floyd Patterson in a shocker of a late 50's U.S. heavyweight
bout...Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record....JB


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Date: 08 Feb 2000 14:47:10 -0500


At 2:26 PM -0500 2/8/00, [e-mail] wrote:

>>The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,

>I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in
>January,1961.
>Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record..

I was wrong, it wasn't the Champs. The original was by The Shadows (with
Cliff Richard on bongos), released in the UK in 1960, but the hit version
in the US was by Jorgen Ingmann.

from the booklet of "Shadows Are Go" (Scamp 9711-2, 1996) -

"Our original was released 8 weeks before Jorgen Ingmann put his version
out on Atco........I guess our label didn't promote the record....we all
saw what happened -  Ingmann's record went to the top of the US charts -
and we were sick! (he) took our basic arrangement and added a few echo
effects with the arrows"

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From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) I love Australians,Mandingo and Quad
Date: 08 Feb 2000 21:28:34 -0000


I have a very nice LEAK quad system which I use with my michell turntable
and very, very old goldring quad cartridge, does anyone know if a quad
cartridge is really necessary, or could i just use a modern stereo cartridge
and get the same effect, It all sounds the same to me whatever i do.

PS The Harry Roche Constellation on Quad is Very very good.

Regards

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Subject: (exotica) Quad
Date: 08 Feb 2000 16:54:42 -0500


http://audiolab.usc.edu/ppt3/sld001.htm
All y'all quad-heads might like to check out a slide-show on 3-D sound
that has mystified me since I stumbled across it. (URL above)


One of the interesting issues about re-issuing quad LPs isn't
that the quad-mix/effect is preserved -- it's that the quad-mix is
used at all! It turns out that most quad encoded releases differed
from the stereo release by either having more sounds present, or by
using entirely different backing tracks. In some cases, the quad and
stereo mixes are completely different takes (shades of the mono/stereo
EXOTICA lps). What with the clarity of CD digital, and the
availability of SurroundSound encoding, it would be cool if more of
the quad mixes were made available when LPs are reissued.

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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" Feb 9, 2000
Date: 08 Feb 2000 17:00:13 -0500


"Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Jess Franco - Manacoa Fire "The Manacoa Experience - a dazzling lesson in
cinematic b-film jazz"
Ken Nordine - Sepia "Colors"
Ursula 1000 - Mambo 1000 "The Now Sound of Ursula 1000"

Keith Mansfield - Teenage Villain "Dimenziones in Sound Vol 3"
Mandrill - Lord of the Golden Baboon "Mandrill Is"
Sadistic Mika Band - Suki, Suki, Suki "Black Ship"
Hal Vincent - Heavy Spaceman "Dimenziones in Sound Vol 3"
Ursula 1000 - Very Leggy "The Now Sound of Ursula 1000"

Bob Crewe - Pygar's Persecution/The Black Queen's Beads "Barbarella ost"
Les Maledictus Sound - Kriminal Theme "Les Maledictus Theme"
Pierre Henry/Michel Colombier - Jeriko Jerk "Messe Pour Le Temps Present"
Love Machine - Clockburst "Electronic Music to Blow Your Mind By"
Amon Duul II - Yeti Talks to Yogi "Yeti"

Les Maledictus Sound - Radio Pirat Program "Les Maledictus Sound"

Until next time...
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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Red light special in aisle 12 (hula girl)
Date: 08 Feb 2000 18:31:12 -0800


To U.S. folks interested in tiki culture / Hawaiiana:

While in Target today, I made a never-done-before detour to the
automotive section to check out the cig lighter power adapters.

Anyway, for whatever reason, they are selling hula girl dolls, about
7 inches tall and nicely detailed, which I think are designed to be
mounted on the dashboard of your car.  I didn't look too long, but I
got the impression that certain joints of the doll are articulated so
that bumps in the road and vibrations cause the doll to gyrate.  Nice
grass skirt to boot.

I think the price was just under $10, a must-have for these cold winter
days to remind us of warmer climes.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) post-Prima TV
Date: 08 Feb 2000 20:17:55 -0800


At 01:46 PM 08-02-00 -0500, m. ace wrote:
>So did anyone catch the Louis Prima TV extravaganza Saturday night?
>I thought the documentary was pretty good. They let the musical numbers
>play out at nearly full length, rather than severely truncated like a lot
>of latter-day documentaries. I didn't get much of a feel for what Louis was
>like "as a person," but from what was said, it seems that he kept that side
>of life private. Keely Smith really did have a unique stage persona.

As I said before, the director said he wanted to delve into some other
areas, especially with an updated interview with Ms. Smith, but after
working on the interview for a year just went with the material he already
had.  In general he said he wanted to keep the program lively and upbeat,
so I can see how he didn't want to spend too much time on some of the
racial and family issues that could have been focussed on.

I forget whether it was in the biovid or the director said this afterward, but
I remember it being said that the stage persona of Ms. Smith with Louis
Prima was set up to make the antics even more impressive as sort of a
contrast with Ms. Smith's near static disinterested performance.  She was
obviously not like that when the spotlight was on her.

Sorry to say I did not get to see the movie on TV...no cable at the Caloz
house these days.  The biovid I saw at a theatre last month (as I
previously talked about).

Byron



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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lyman's "Taboo" contains "Quiet Village"???
Date: 08 Feb 2000 21:37:36 -0800


Ok, this is one for the hardcore Lyman/Denny geeks (like me...)

At 2:27 into Arthur Lyman's version of "Taboo" there is a point where
all the instruments drop out and it is just some drums (this is the part
prior to the flute).

Maybe I am reading (listening?) too much into this, but it sure sounds
like the beat of those drums matches the bass line of "Quiet Village".

Can anyone else confirm or deny???

-Kevin Crossman



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Subject: (exotica) New Exotica Website Unveiled...
Date: 08 Feb 2000 22:26:07 -0800


Well, folks, the Exotica Archive is complete enough to finally be unveiled...

http://www.kevdo.com/exotica/

Right now there is an essay on the Evolution of Exotica (by all means
correct me on any inaccuracies), a profile of Arthur Lyman, and some
photos of Waikiki (including the Shell Bar...).

Will soon have more...

Please check it out and let me know what you think... and if you have
suggestions for topics to cover let me know as well.

Mahalo!
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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New on the Space Age Pop page
Date: 09 Feb 2000 07:16:51


New additions to the Space Age Pop website:

    --R.I.P. Si Zentner, 1917-2000
    --New biography pages on Willie Bobo, Dave Pell, and Mike Simpson

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/whatsnew.htm


Enjoy.

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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE
Date: 10 Feb 2000 00:16:00 +1100


Surfing around and had to let you folks know that one of Dick Hyman's best
best recordings is up on eBay, and probably won't get sledgehammered into
the triple-digits by 14-year-old synth player bidders, so it looks like it
could be a bargain.  Unless of course, you all put bids in...

It is a real kooky/moog-like organ (the Baldwin 'Fantomfingers') and he
totally goes wiggy...best track is 'Fantomfingers', his 10 minute long (!)
follow-up jam to 'The Minotaur.'  Anyone on this list who won't dig this
record...well, you're probably Ricky Martin fans.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=254219833

Of course, I ain't connected to this auction in any way...I'd never be
friends with someone who'd sell that!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Date: 09 Feb 2000 09:06:59 EST


In a message dated 2/8/00 2:27:29 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< >The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,
 >back in the early 60's (forgot which year)

 I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of Copenhagen in
 January,1961. Maybe he cashed in on the Innggaammaarr Johhaannssenn craze
 after he KO'd Floyd Patterson in a shocker of a late 50's U.S. heavyweight
 bout...Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs record....JB >>


Don't forget the amazing version of "Apache" by The Shadows!

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Subject: (exotica) Record dealer query
Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:30:22 -0600


Okay, it's a long shot but I'm curious if anyone here has ever had
dealings with Sid's Rare Jazz in San Francisco.  I'm about to drop
a large chunk of change there and before I take the plunge I'd like
to hear from anybody who's bought from them before.  I've talked to
him on the phone and he sounds like a stand up guy.  Just
interested in experiences anyone might have had with him before.

Thanks for the space.

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Subject: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love them........
Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:21:21 -0500


Could everyone give a more vivid description of what type of music that =
Sunahara guy plays?

Sounds intruiging.

And what's with this airplane worship?  Eno who did Songs for Airports or =
whatever it is, right? (which was recently re-done by a group called =
"Banging on Cans" or something like that).

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Date: 09 Feb 2000 07:18:51 -0800 (PST)


or Hot Butter, on the moog. Mouthwatering.
>
>
> Don't forget the amazing version of "Apache" by The
> Shadows!
>

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Yesterday's scores
Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:18:00 -0500


Scored some fab records yesterday, to celebrate cashing a check for some
work I did this fall. Sixth sense led me to Antone's Records, where I
unearthed:

Esquivel's Other Worlds, Other Sounds (mono), More of Other World Other
Sounds in glorious full bodied stereo, and Strings Aflame, also hi-fi but
Esquivel's genius gleams nonetheless. What's the point of OW,OS in mono? I
had no Esquivel on vinyl, so this feels like I won the Nobel Prize for
Peace and the Pillsbury Bakeoff at the same time. $15 a disk, too--no New
York prices.

Yma Sumac, Fuego del Ande, with Moises Vivanco and His Orchestra
Tipica--not Xtabay, but still scratches that itch for South American folk
song classics such as The Hot Rooster. And it's the Andean princess putting
her pipes through the paces. The orchestra is wonderful.

Les Baxter's Original Quiet Village, a compilation of cuts from Tamboo,
Ritual of the Savage, Caribbean Moonlight, Ports of Pleasure, Jewels of the
Sea. Music for romancing, just in time for Valentine's Day. Come hither, my
darling husband.

Shangri-La, THE Robert Maxwell LP to have, methinks. Whadda catalog:
Poinciana, That Old Black Magic, Nature Boy, The Breeze and I, The Old
Devil Moon, Magic in the Moonlight and Strange Music. One of those rare
records with nary a bad cut in it. What arrangements!

Except for worn grooves on Strings Aflame, these records are all near mint
with clean sleeves and the original inner sleeves. Yeah, dropped a bundle,
but anything to feed the collection. New light sparkles at Rancho Deluxe.

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Subject: (exotica) Bob MOOG remembers RS !
Date: 09 Feb 2000 09:06:15 EST



     Robert Moog's memories of Raymond Scott (in Moog's own words):

        http://raymondscott.com/moog.html















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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Breakbeat! Apache
Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:04:55 -0800 (PST)



You know Br Cleve, its funny you should mention "Good Times" and big rap
early songs in the same sentence.  As I'm sure you know,   Good Times was
sampled completely (instrumentally) on one of the biggest hit and first rap
songs, "Rapper's Delight"  also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar
Hill Gang.

I was told once that this was the first big rap song.

I caught Grand Master Flash and the Furious Five live in 1983 at the state
fair. My friends and I were the only people that knew all the words.   Rap
was still new music back then down here,  now I understand New Orleans is
one of the leaders in rap music.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

> --- "Br. Cleve"  wrote:

 yup, it was. That was as abig a song in the early days of rap as Chic's
> "Good Times" was. The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,
back in the early 60's (forgot which year)
> >
> > br cleve
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE
Date: 09 Feb 2000 08:42:15 -0800


>Anyone on this list who won't dig this
>record...well, you're probably Ricky Martin fans.

Whoa!  I was with you there, until you went and made THAT statement.  I
can assure you that my not liking Dick Hyman's organ stylings doesn't
mean that as a result, I am a fan of ANY pop diva or divo!!!

All musicians aren't created equal--on any instrument.   Where organ and
piano keyboardists are concerned, there are those with a light touch and
those with heavy hands; if we like/prefer one style of playing, it stands
to reason that we won't like the opposite!

Not all of us like the stress of auction buying, either.  Have fun in the
bidding wars....

Regards,
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Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 1/22/00
Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:05:11 -0800


The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7
FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County).

Also check out my show  The Nice Age at  http://www.spikeradio.com. The time
has changed. I'm now on Sunday afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST.

I'm a little late with this email, and for good reason. I was in Vegas
checking out the man....Wayne Newton! What a show. He made his entrance via
space ship (watch out P-Funk!) and closed with "MacArthur Park," complete
with real rain. It hardly mattered that then man can barely sing these days,
he's still a consumate entertainer.


The Liquid Room-1/22/99:

1.The Committee-California My Way
Happy Together-The Best Of White Whale Records (Varese Sarabande)

2.Betty Boo-I'm On My Way
Grrr It's Betty Boo (WB)

3.The Free Design-2002 A Hit Song
Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande)

4.Luke Vibert/BJ Cole-Swing Lite Alright
Stop The Panic (Astralwerks)

5.Wiseguys-Ooh La La
The Antidote (Ideal)

6.Mitsuko Hirota-Nagisa No Tensha
60's Cutie Pop Collection-Psychedelic Town Edit (Nippon Columbia-Japan)

7.Eels-A Daisy Through Concrete
Daisies Of THe Galaxy (Dreamworks)

8.The Association-Pandora's Golden Heebie Jeebies

9.DJ Me DJ You-Rainbows & Robots
Rainbows & Robots

10.Barry White-Find The Man Bros.
Together Brothers Soundtrack (Mercury)

11.Takako Minekawa-Tiger
Fun9 (Emperor Norton)

12.Arling & Cameron-Hashi
Music For Imaginary Films (Emperor Norton)

13.The Free Design-Bubbles
Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande)

14.Groove Armada-At The River
Vertigo (Jive)

15.Dots & Borders-Another Mellow Winter
Tokyo Tapes (Trattoria-Japan)

16.David Axelrod-The Sign
An Axelrod Anthology 1968-1970 (Stateside-UK)

17.Harpers Bizarre-The Debutates Ball
Feelin' Groovy The Best Of Harpers Bizarre (WB)

18.April March-Magic Ass
Dan Le Yeaux D' April March (Tricatel-France)

19.Eels-Wooden Nickels
Daisies Of The Galaxy (Dreamworks)

20.Paul Weller-Wildwood (Sheared Wood Mix)
Boys Soundtrack (A&M)

21.Cubismo Grafico-Area Code 706
Sound For Escape Presents Whonmodell 1999 (Escalator-Japan)

22.Bill Nelson-Another Day Another Ray Of Hope
Chimera (Cocteau-UK)

23.Luke Vibert/BJ Cole-Fly Hawaii
Stop The Panic (Astralwerks)

24.The Free Design-Now Is The Time
Kites Are Fun: The Best Of The Free Design (Varese Sarabande)

25.Arling & Cameron-1999 Spaceclub
Music For Imaginary Films (Emperor Norton)

26.Takako Minekawa-Plash
Fun9 (Emperor Norton)

27.Cibo Matto-About A Girl
Moodchild Pro CD (WB)

28.Pizzicato Five-Wild Strawberries
Pizzicato Five (*********)

29.Singers Unlimited-Angel Eyes
Sentimental Journey (MPS)

30.Wayne Newton-Medley
The Best Of Wayne Newton Live (Chelsea)

31.Flaming Lips-Riding To Work In The Year 2025 (Your Invisible Now) (Stereo
Remix)
Waiting For A Superman CD Maxi Single (WB)

32.Lee Hazlewood (w/Nina Lizell)-Leather & Lace
Cowboy In Sweden (SLR)

33.The Bob Crewe Generation-Menage A Trois (12" Disco Mix)
12" single (Elektra)

34.Puffy-Kore Ga Watashi No Ikiru Michi (The Readymade Darlin' Of Discoteque
Mix)
PRMX (Sony-Japan)

35.Mike Flowers Meets Orbital-Chime (Krisp Double U Mix)
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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lunch Finds....
Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:07:09 -0500


Just stepped out at lunch and found the following:

Beach Boys' Christmas Album=20

"The Now Generation" - Took a chance on this one.  The cover photo shows a =
group of 8 groovy guys and dolls (most in shades) standing on a *landing =
strip* at an *airport* lookin' all cool as they pose behind the fin of an =
*airplane.*  There's that AIRPORT imagery again!!!!  Anybody heard this?  =
It's got four instros that I'm hopeful for........

"In Case You Haven't Heard......Don Jenkins" - This guy's an organ player, =
and I wouldn't have bothered with this one, except for the fact that it =
has a version of "Mah nah Mah nah!"  Probably stinks.

Anybody wanna tell me how bad these two LP's are now before I go home and =
try 'em out?

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exorbitant CD prices in Europe (was: these are the breaks)
Date: 09 Feb 2000 17:02:10 +0100


cheryl wrote:

>I'm still trying to figure out why a German or French import CD will
>cost much less here for the same CD than it does in Germany or France -
>often as little as half as much!  Why are CD prices in Europe so
>exorbitant?  Can anyone elighten me on this one?


    yeah, i wonder too! take those Spanish RCA living stereo reissues:
some of those cost mor here in belgium than at dusty groove! i said: SOME,
that's right: some cd's they cost 10 EURO, and others as much as 17 EURO
(at the same store).


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Subject: (exotica) Re: recent mancini RCA/BMG Spain reissues
Date: 09 Feb 2000 15:43:11 +0100


bj wrote:

>If you like "Our Man In Hollywood", you would probably also like
>"Combo!", "Uniquely Mancini", "Mancini '67", "The Blues and The Beat" and
>other ones like this that feature his big band sound and excellent
>arrangements.


    yep, you're right, i do like those you mention a lot, better than
"Our Man In Hollywood" actually. my favorite of them all is "The Blues and
The Beat", which i would rate as excellent, the other 3 you mentioned as
very good.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: more burnin CD questions
Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:59:54 +0100


At 21:16 -0700 2000/02/07, Nat Kone wrote:

>Or to say it another way, somebody told me that those more expensive CDR's,
>on which you can make mistakes and re-record, are only playable on one of
>those re-recordable machines.



    we're talking CD-RW's here. the answer is yes and no. CURRENTLY,
you can only play CD-RW's on the audio cd-recorders, but in theory, NEW CD
players should be able to read them too. a test by MacWorld about a year
ago found that - at that time - there were no new compatible players yet



SLarry3595 wrote:

> The point of the cdrw is you can mess around with it till you get
>it exactly right


    don't know what your idea of "mess around" is, but you can only
erase the LAST track, not just any track. you can't MOVE any track, you
can't change track points, etc.

    i say: go for minidisk! it's the greatest recording device ever
invented!



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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lunch Finds....
Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:22:35 -0800


>Just stepped out at lunch and found the following:
>
>Beach Boys' Christmas Album

There are at least two Beach Boy Christmas Albums around; their original
one from the early 60s (which is the one I presume you are talking about)
that has the photo of most of them dressed in blue sweaters on the front
cover, decorating a Xmas tree.  This has some nice arrangements on it.
I'm not familiar with and don't own their newer one, so I can't comment
on that...

Regards,
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Subject: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke
Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:33:46 -0500


From today's Variety --

Don Ralke

Don Ralke, composer-arranger for TV shows and films including "77 Sunset
Strip," "Happy Days" and "Laverne and Shirley," died Jan. 26 of natural
causes in Santa Rosa. He was 80.

A Michigan native, Ralke was a key innovator in pioneering production
and arrangement work for the L.A. music scene. Gold Star Recording
Studio founders Stan Ross and Dave Gold remembered Ralke as the most
well-known unknown in the business. Ross told Daily Variety that
everybody has at one time heard something arranged by Ralke, from the
ubiquitous "77 Sunset Strip" TV theme song to the 1960s Jules Akins tune
"Birds and the Bees," which he co-produced.

A creative musical force throughout the 1950s, '60s and '70s, Ralke
arranged six gold records and many pop hits, including the Connie
Stevens song "16 Reasons."

Other notable credits in Ralke's catalog include the Edd "Kookie" Byrnes
cult classic "Kookie - Lend Me Your Comb." He also co-produced and
arranged for the Sunrays, scoring the singles "I Live for the Sun" and
"Andrea."

He is survived by his daughter Pam and three grandchildren.
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http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:19:09|PM&p=avg&sql=B164073
http://209.63.231.35/.CAL/tr1.html#Ralke
http://hubris.net/zolac/smooth/cv3298.html

Among his Recordings are:
Bourbon Street Beat, Warner Brothers WBS-1321
Gershwin with Bongos, Warner Brothers WBS-1360
The Savage and the Sensuous Bongos, Warner Brothers WBS-1398
The Transformed Man, William Shatner (arranged/produced) Decca DLP-75043
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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke
Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:49:48 -0500


...AND "Jennie Lee" by Jan and Dean!  I was musing about the ever-present
Ralke during a record run, when I found this and Andrea by the Sunrays on
the same day.  What a chameleon.

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Subject: (exotica) New Age Exotica....
Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:51:28 -0500


Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete =
with bird calls!!

(And a tiki cover......)

http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html

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Subject: (exotica) New Age Exotica....
Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:52:29 -0500


Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete =
with bird calls!!

(And a tiki cover......)

Not that I'm saying it's any good...........pretty cheesy with the =
keyboard......

http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html



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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) DVD player that plays MP3s on CD-Rs....
Date: 09 Feb 2000 11:09:51 -0800


Just got this in a CNET email:

 Raite AVPhile 715: Double-Duty DVD
   For a DVD player, $200 is not a bad price. Furthermore, the
   Raite AVPhile 715 also plays CDs full of MP3 music; if you're
   into burning your MP3s to CD to store them, this DVD player will
   make your money go a long way. Find out more in our hands-on
   review:

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Lunch Finds....
Date: 09 Feb 2000 10:44:35 -0800 (PST)



Week's Lunch Finds:

Heintje: Weinachten mit
Spikes Jones: (Xmas LP)
Simon & Garfunkel on Pickwick (aka "Tom & Jerry":
Rockabilly - saw this on E-Bay about a week ago...
went for $6).
The Clay Pitts Orchestra w/ Arlene Tiger: Female
Animal ST (Grrrrrrrrr...)

Some of this, etc.,  on tapes due some of you has gone
out. You know who you are (mea culpa, yeah)
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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Age Exotica....
Date: 09 Feb 2000 11:58:36 PST



>Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete
>with bird calls!!
>
>(And a tiki cover......)
>
>Not that I'm saying it's any good...........pretty cheesy with the
>keyboard......
>
>http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html



Cheesy is right. Dig that funky pseudo-tropica rhythm. MAN! I have a few
Iasos records from the 70s and 80s that I have found in discard bins. Good
for sampling thats about it. Cheesy whooshy synth washes with bleeps and
gurgles. This one, however is beyond me, talk about taking everything human
out of music, WOW. Thanks for pointing it out though. Time to re-program.
<logoff>

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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores
Date: 09 Feb 2000 15:59:37 -0500


At 10:18 AM 2/9/00 -0500, mimi wrote:
>
>Scored some fab records yesterday, to celebrate cashing a check for some
>work I did this fall. Sixth sense led me to Antone's Records, where I
>unearthed:
>
>Esquivel's Other Worlds, Other Sounds (mono), More of Other World Other
>Sounds in glorious full bodied stereo, and Strings Aflame, also hi-fi but
>Esquivel's genius gleams nonetheless. What's the point of OW,OS in mono? I
>had no Esquivel on vinyl, so this feels like I won the Nobel Prize for
>Peace and the Pillsbury Bakeoff at the same time. $15 a disk, too--no New
>York prices.

A post about actual exotica record finds.  How can I not respond?
From zero to three Esquivels in one afternoon.  Suddenly your collection
seems a bit more complete.

(I was more than satisfied with my own exotica collection till a couple of
weeks ago when my friend at the used record store, showed me every Les
Baxter record I'd ever heard of, in perfect shape, with beautiful covers,
sitting in a pile of stuff someone had just brought in.  But I forced
myself not to ask "How much?")

I know what you mean about the mono but as long as you don't hear the
stereo versions, you should be happy.  When I got some of my exotica
classics, I didn't even know they'd come out in stereo too so I was pretty
satisfied... till I heard the stereo.  I know there are some genres - like
50's Blue Note jazz - where collectors prefer the mono versions but I'm not
sure if that's a collecting thing or a sound thing.  I think of exotica and
sabp as made for stereo.

As far as the price goes.  It's not cheap and it's not a gouging price
either.  I would have expected a bit more gouging in a hip music-conscious
spot like Austin.  Then again, maybe the Esquivel thing has levelled out a
bit.  Maybe they think that everyone who really really wanted Esquivel on
vinyl, has them by now.

I find used-record store pricing mentality to be a fascinating topic.

I get the feeling that easy listening, lounge and exotica have become not
exactly part of the "general" mainstream, but part of the mainstream for
those who frequent used record stores.  It's no longer that people know
three names and nothing else.   It just becomes another section in the
store like jazz or rock.
So now, you have MORE records.  And a whole bunch of records that you once
could only get at a thrift store for fifty cents are now in the record
store for five bucks.  But on the other hand, the so-called rarity like
Esquivel comes down to the price of any solid well-respected record - like
an Impulse jazz for instance - and that price is about $15.


>Yma Sumac, Fuego del Ande, with Moises Vivanco and His Orchestra
>Tipica--not Xtabay, but still scratches that itch for South American folk
>song classics such as The Hot Rooster.

Yeah, I had this but sold it.  I guess I don't love Yma that much.  When
she does a tune like "Bo Mambo" or "Goomba Boomba", that sound like music
cannibals play before dinner, then I'm there.  But when she plays "folkier"
stuff, I can take a pass.
>Shangri-La, THE Robert Maxwell LP to have, methinks. Whadda catalog:
>Poinciana, That Old Black Magic, Nature Boy, The Breeze and I, The Old
>Devil Moon, Magic in the Moonlight and Strange Music. One of those rare
>records with nary a bad cut in it. What arrangements!

I think every Robert Maxwell record is great in its own way.  I just got
one of his Command records, Anytime, and suddenly realize I have seven of
his records, eight if you include the Fortune Tellers.
But yeah, in the exotica sense, Shangrila is probably THE one to have.  Add
"Hi Fi Harp" and "Harp in Hi Fi" and you'd have most of it.

> New light sparkles at Rancho Deluxe.

Nice to see someone happy to find new music.  Sometimes I think I'm a bit
too focussed on just adding it to the pile.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores
Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:27:17 -0800


>I find used-record store pricing mentality to be a fascinating topic.

What is being charged at used record stores is still by and large better
than I hear what is going on over at Ebay for the same
items.....!!!!!!!!!

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Subject: (exotica) Louis Louis???
Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:53:28 -0500


Sort of a silly question, but when these questions pop into one's head,
they don't go away...

Did Louis Prima ever record a version of "Louie Louie"?

As Mizz Fondle says, "inquiring minds want to know."


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Subject: (exotica) RE: Dick Hyman MUST-HAVE
Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:56:29 -0500



    "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> wrote:

        > Surfing around and had to let you folks know that one of
Dick Hyman's best best >recordings is up on eBay, and probably won't get
sledgehammered into the triple-digits >by 14-year-old synth player bidders,
so it looks like it could be a bargain.  Unless of >course, you all put bids
in...
        >It is a real kooky/moog-like organ (the Baldwin
'Fantomfingers') and he totally goes >wiggy...best track is 'Fantomfingers',
his 10 minute long (!) follow-up jam to 'The >Minotaur.'  Anyone on this
list who won't dig this record...well, you're probably Ricky >Martin fans.

Picked this one up last year (8 bucks!) & I have to second you. All organ,
but much closer to the Moog LPs than his Lowery work, esp on the
aforementioned title track. Occasionally a bit of a novelty - the
'Fantomfingers' thing seems to be an early device to gliss between notes,
exaggerating his technical ability to an almost absurd level - but balanced
with warmth, humor & nutty hi-jinx.

        ------------------------------

[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>  wrote:

        >In a message dated 2/8/00 2:27:29 PM EST,
[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>  writes:
        ><< >The original version of Apache was done by The Champs,
> >back in the early 60's (forgot which year)
        >
        >I have the original Atco single by Jorgen Ingmann of
Copenhagen in
        >January,1961. Maybe he cashed in on the Innggaammaarr
Johhaannssenn craze
        >after he KO'd Floyd Patterson in a shocker of a late 50's
U.S. heavyweight
        >bout...Joel Whitburn doesn't list the song as a Champs
record....JB >>
        >
        >Don't forget the amazing version of "Apache" by The
Shadows!
        >Ashley>

Have to admit, much as I love the Shadows original, I somehow prefer the
Ventures cover (fr "Play Telstar and the Lonely Bull") - tho my favorite of
the moment is from the Xaver Cugat LP "Plays Continental Hits," one of those
Mercury gatefolds. Something about twangy guitar + mambo horns...

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Yesterday's scores
Date: 09 Feb 2000 13:55:12 -0800


BJ wrote:

> >I find used-record store pricing mentality to be a fascinating topic.
>
> What is being charged at used record stores is still by and large better
> than I hear what is going on over at Ebay for the same items.....!!!!

This is generally true - however I found one vinyl store in San Bernardino
that had a huge collection of cocktail/exotica/etc. all housed within a
freight container that was parked/beached in back of the store. There must
have easily been 20-25K albums within that container (4 rows of floor to
ceiling shelves the length of the container 40').

The store focuses on jazz and soul; the other stuff was an afterthought.
Nothing was priced in the container - when I walked up to the register with
a stack of 20-30 albums, the owner said they were $12.99 a piece, unless he
had to "look them up" (a cheesy and thinly veiled threat to raise the
prices). EBay is cheaper for most of the albums I had selected. I left with
one album.

The tragedy is that it is all melting - that container must get hot as hell
during the summer in San Bernardino (i.e., 105-110 during the summer).

<sigh>
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A 'Hi!' to record covers!
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:00:03 +0100


Nathan Miner wrote:

> Just stepped out at lunch and found the following:
>
> Beach Boys' Christmas Album

phat!

> "The Now Generation" - Took a chance on this one. The cover photo shows a group of 8 groovy guys and dolls (most in shades) standing on a *landing strip* at an *airport* lookin' all cool as they pose behind the fin of an *airplane.*  There's that AIRPORT imagery again!!!!

Generation records... another class of its own... the flower generation... generation x... my generation... the blank generation... the tiki generation... there's so much in record covers that makes you being attracted. the whole world actually. no wonder this hobby 'record collecting' has no limits. it's endless!     ...time goes by....

eye-catcher records, ear-catcher records, eye-catcher record covers, ear-catcher record covers.

And so on.

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Date: 09 Feb 2000 17:01:08 -0500



"m.ace" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Sort of a silly question, but when these questions pop into one's head,
they don't go away...

Did Louis Prima ever record a version of "Louie Louie"?
-----

Seems fitting that I point you toward:
http://www.louielouie.net/

Prima doesn't show up on this Almost Complete Louie Louie Discography:
http://www.louielouie.net/lou_gfx/Louie_disco_99_11.pdf

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Subject: Re: (exotica) New Age Exotica....
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:06:49 +0100


jonathan richardson wrote:

> >Check out the CD "Bora Bora" by Iasos for some new age exotica - complete
> >with bird calls!!
> >
> >(And a tiki cover......)
> >
> >Not that I'm saying it's any good...........pretty cheesy with the
> >keyboard......
> >
> >http://www.broadcast.com/jukebox/albums/b/borabora2000_440.html
>
> Cheesy is right. Dig that funky pseudo-tropica rhythm. MAN! I have a few
> Iasos records from the 70s and 80s that I have found in discard bins. Good
> for sampling thats about it. Cheesy whooshy synth washes with bleeps and
> gurgles. This one, however is beyond me, talk about taking everything human
> out of music, WOW. Thanks for pointing it out though. Time to re-program.
> <logoff>
>
> -jonny yuma

When the bad get good, the good get bad.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:11:11 +0100


Mimi Mayer wrote:

> Scored some fab...
>
> Esquivel's Other Worlds, Other Sounds (mono), More of Other World Other
> Sounds in glorious full bodied stereo, and Strings Aflame

> Yma Sumac, Fuego del Ande
>
> Les Baxter's Original Quiet Village
>
> Shangri-La, THE Robert Maxwell LP
>

Boom! Zang! Baroom! Precious pearls, my dear, precious pearls!

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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get?
Date: 09 Feb 2000 14:17:23 -0800


Since there's been talk of record store thrifting...

I have all the Martin Denny U.S. material on CD (non-bootleg, that is).
That means all his pre-1960 stuff along with a few selected cuts from
later albums.

Now is probably the time to investigate newer albums only available on
LP (unless someone wishes to enlighten me...).  Knowing that the quality
of some of the later material varied (due to ghosting, style
experimentation, etc.) I am not sure which albums to seek out on the
auction sites, used record shops, etc. Especially since sound clips are
unlikely...

I actually have a cassette copy of Taste of Honey, which I find so-so at
best. I'm interested in the quality of things like Latin Village
('arranged' (perhaps ghosted???) by Robert Drasnin) and Exotic
Percussion which I guess to be more in line with the "classic" stuff
from '57-'59.

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Also, if someone has a million
bucks or something, maybe you can use that money to convince Scamp to do
more Denny reissues...  (he says, hoping against hope)

Thanks,
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love
Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:25:40 EST



In a message dated 2/9/0 10:19:50 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Could everyone give a more vivid description of what type of music that
>Sunahara
>guy plays? Sounds intruiging. And what's with this airplane worship?

I think he is taking In-flight Entertainment to the next phase


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Subject: (exotica) Ugly Food That Stanks
Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:34:46 EST



In a message dated 2/9/0 11:30:49 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>"Rapper's Delight"  also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar
>Hill Gang. I was told once that this was the first big rap song.

Some say it is, but some  back at the urban station I used to program dusties
for say it was "Sylvia's Revenge" for Grandmaster Flash's refusal to sign up
with Sugar Hill Records under her less than desirable terms. Legend has it
that Sugar Hill Gang was a Flash wannabe crew that cobbled together a hit at
the last minute because GM Flash was ready to go Indie rather than be
enslaved by such an entrepreneur.. Sylvia Robinson was also in the process of
buying up the Chess Records Archives and wanted to control a corner of the
new music as well. When the song became the national anthem, Flash had second
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Subject: (exotica) Jan and Who?
Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:44:06 EST



In a message dated 2/9/0 1:50:14 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>...AND "Jennie Lee" by Jan and Dean!

Mr Nit-Pick back again to dispute an innocent assertion: "Jennie Lee" was
recorded by Jan & Arnie along WITH Dean who was about to go into the service.
The single lists Jam & Arnie (Ginsburg) but Whitburn says Dean was
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get?
Date: 10 Feb 2000 00:54:38 +0100


At least:

Exotica 1, 2, 3
Quiet Village
Primitiva
Afro-Desia
Hypnotique
Forbidden Island
Latin Village
A Taste of India
A Taste of Honey
Another Taste of Honey
The Enchanted Sea
Sayonara

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get?
Date: 09 Feb 2000 16:32:51 PST



>Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Also, if someone has a million
>bucks or something, maybe you can use that money to convince Scamp to do
>more Denny reissues...  (he says, hoping against hope)
>

One of the better later "ghosted" Dennys , in my opinion, is Hawaii Goes a
Go-Go. Not your classic Denny material, as a matter of fact, there is
nothing martin Denny-like in the arrangements at all but  there are nice
little bouncy surfy go-go  numbers of Girl from Ipanema, Call Me and a fun
version of E Lei Ka Lei Lei (The Beach party Song)  The record has this kind
of beach party feeling, there is even crowd/party noises, folks clapping
along with the beat and  and chants of "yea" and "alright" in the background
of most of the songs (unless im hearing things). maybe its live, I dont
know. At any rate, I would recommend this one if you find it. I dont know if
its one of his ghosted records or not, but its a good and fun listen
nonetheless. The cover has a real cute Nancy Sinatra-ish looking woman on
the cover. I also like Latin Village too. the Taste of Honey ones seem a
little watered down for my taste.

Then of course there is always Exotic Moog, but thats in a class all by
itself.

hope I helped you in your quest for the ultimate record.

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From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ugly Food That Stanks
Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:59:06 -0500


yeah it was the first BIG one.
but what was the FIRST one...?
i say it was The Younger Generation (Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five)
"We Rap More Mellow" on Brass records in 1979, of which i have one copy
a disco dj i knew got rid of back in 1981 along with Grandmaster Flash's
"Superappin'" on Enjoy Records.
obviously he did not hear the future knocking.
he threw out a trunkload of other great cheesy obscure disco tracks i would
be able to find today.

bump remembering my pre-dj days being a dj groupie in 79.
later
i think i did my first set with this guy at a suburban discotheque in 1981.
my short set included Jah Wobble, Funkadelic, Telex, Devo, The Clash,
and Duran Duran.
i may even thrown in Donna Summer and Village People for "good measure".


baby bobba well we're still friends
bump




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>
>>"Rapper's Delight"  also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar
>>Hill Gang. I was told once that this was the first big rap song.
>
>Some say it is, but some  back at the urban station I used to program dusties
>for say it was "Sylvia's Revenge" for Grandmaster Flash's refusal to sign up
>with Sugar Hill Records under her less than desirable terms. Legend has it
>that Sugar Hill Gang was a Flash wannabe crew that cobbled together a hit at
>the last minute because GM Flash was ready to go Indie rather than be
>enslaved by such an entrepreneur.. Sylvia Robinson was also in the process of
>buying up the Chess Records Archives and wanted to control a corner of the
>new music as well. When the song became the national anthem, Flash had second
>thoughts...JB


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Date: 09 Feb 2000 21:31:40 EST


<< What is being charged at used record stores is still by and large better
 than I hear what is going on over at Ebay for the same
 items.....!!!!!!!!! >>

Not so!  What you have heard is not really the case at all.

I have been a steady ebay buyer and seller for well over a year now and find
it to be an indispensible resource in finding otherwise hard-to-find records
cheap (cheap = under $10).

The overwhelming majority of prices on ebay are established by the bidder
themselves.  Sure, there are some real suckers out there, paying $50 bucks
for a vinyl reissue that you can get at Dusty's for $14.99.  But don't fault
the seller, who started the minimum bid at $9.99.

But for every record that gets heavy bidding action and goes for big bucks,
there are dozens and dozens of LP's that never receive a bid or are won by a
single bidder who meets a very reasonable minimum.















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Date: 09 Feb 2000 18:55:13 -0800


At 09:31 PM 09-02-00 EST, basichip wrote:
>I have been a steady ebay buyer and seller for well over a year now and find
>it to be an indispensible resource in finding otherwise hard-to-find records
>cheap (cheap = under $10).

me too.  it is all about timing.  if you are willing to wait, then you will
find something that is affordable, although the postage can often be a
problem...sometimes the postage is more than the winning bid because the
seller doesn't have packing materials on hand and relies on priority mail
for that purpose.

All it takes is two ravenous bidders and the price goes much higher than it
might be sitting in a used record store somewhere.

If you can resist bidding, though, ebay is just simply a great way to
become familiar with what is out there.  There have been all sorts of
records I had never seen until I saw them on ebay...and others I had never
even knew existed.

Some months I can never get away to check out the stores and instead am
virtually chained to a computer at work.  Going on ebay to see whats in the
stacks is often my only "outlet."

My preference, though, is get out and buy those records at 10, 25 and 50
cents each...rescuing them from the last step before the dump!

Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores
Date: 09 Feb 2000 19:37:14 -0800


>At 09:31 PM 09-02-00 EST, basichip wrote:
>>I have been a steady ebay buyer and seller for well over a year now and find
>>it to be an indispensible resource in finding otherwise hard-to-find records
>>cheap (cheap = under $10).
>
>me too.  it is all about timing.  if you are willing to wait, then you will
>find something that is affordable, although the postage can often be a
>problem...sometimes the postage is more than the winning bid because the
>seller doesn't have packing materials on hand and relies on priority mail
>for that purpose.
>
>All it takes is two ravenous bidders and the price goes much higher than it
>might be sitting in a used record store somewhere.

From where I sit, the fault is most definitely not always with the
bidder/buyer.  Remember that post on this list about the seller who, just
a few weeks ago was selling the complete "Ultra Lounge" collection with a
MINIMUM bid of $400.00????!  That's the kind of thing I'm talking about.
High minimum bids also contribute to what is becoming known as the scam
of auctions.

Yes, I know that people have gotten some very good buys at eBay and other
places, but you have to be careful there as well; people who get all
caught up in the bidding wars and after a while have outspent their
budget for that item are all too common--as are sellers who set
ridiculously high minimum bids.  And I haven't even touched the subject
of how these high prices that items are fetching affect the retail
marketplace where we non-auction folk buy as well.  A reasonable price
can be on an LP one moment, next time you are in the store, the owner
will say "oh, that costs more now because it got sold for 'such and such
price' at auction!"

Regards,
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From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) [obit] Don Ralke
Date: 09 Feb 2000 19:52:58 -0800


Anybody out there willing to make a copy of this for me?

> The Savage and the Sensuous Bongos, Warner Brothers WBS-1398

Let me know off the list.  Thanks!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Ugly Food That Stanks
Date: 09 Feb 2000 23:26:02 -0500


At 6:59 PM -0500 2/9/00, Bump wrote:

>yeah it was the first BIG one.
>but what was the FIRST one...?
>i say it was The Younger Generation (Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five)
>"We Rap More Mellow" on Brass records in 1979, of which i have one copy
>a disco dj i knew got rid of back in 1981 along with Grandmaster Flash's
>"Superappin'" on Enjoy Records.

 'Rapper's Delight' was definitely the first rap hit; 'We Rap More Mellow'
and 'Superappin' were  released at almost the same time, but I think the
Sugar Hill Gang wins by a length.

Saw "We Rap More Mellow" selling in NYC recently for $100. Glad I never
sold my copy.

Jimmy B's story makes sense to me about Flash; he may have even had a
contract with her, which was why '....Mellow' was released under the name
The Younger Generation.

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Subject: (exotica) Louis Prima & Keely Smith ~ Vanity Fair
Date: 09 Feb 2000 20:44:37 -0800


Did anyone happen to read the article on Louis Prima and Keely Smith in either the December or January issue of Vanity fair? It's well worth going to the library and checking out. There's some great photos of Louis, Keely Sam and the Witnesses in action! :)  ~~ Paul


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Subject: (exotica) Gordon Jenkins Manhattan Tower
Date: 09 Feb 2000 20:53:04 -0800


Does anyone know if Gordon Jenkins 'Manhattan Tower' is available on cd?

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From: "james brouwer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) BackWard Playlist Feb. 9 2000
Date: 09 Feb 2000 20:56:50 GMT



The BackWard can be heard on CFRU in Guelph, Canada, every Wednesday from 10
am to 11 am (or, as with today, from 10 am to 12 pm)

Danger - Lalo Schifrin, from "Mission Impossible: Anthology"
Ping Pong - Armando Travajoli, from "Seven Golden Men" OST
Ode To An African Violet - Mort Garson, from "Plantasia"
Hello/How Are You - PET Industries, from "Teach Your Parrot to Talk"
Chef D'Oevre - Jon Appleton, from "Only In America"
Lost Man (main title) - Quincy Jones, from "The Lost Man" OST
Save Us - William Bell, from "Phases of Reality"
Streets of Calcutta - Ananda Shankar, from "Thoth to Eros"
Light Show - Fantastic Zoo, from "Psychedelic Experience Vol 1"
Birth by Descent - Dave Grusin, from "Candy" OST
Deviation st. - The Deviants, from "PTOOF!"
Genese (exc) - Henk Baadings, from "Baadings/Raaljmakers" (on
Limelight Records)
Animal - Chrome, from "Red Exposure"
This Fear of Gods - Simple Minds, from "Empires and Dance"
The Coming of the One - Twink, from "Think Pink"
Psychedelic Senate - Les Baxter, from "Wild in the Streets" OST
War Sucks - Red Krayola, from "Parable of Arable Land"
Free Your Mind, And Your Ass Will Follow - Funkadelic, from "Free Your
                                      Mind...."
Herter's Crow Calling Record Part 1, from "Only in America"
Love Without Sound - White Noise, from "White Noise"
Impressions of African Winter - Clock DVA, from "Thirst"
Real World - Pere Ubu, from "390 Degrees of Simulated Stereo"
Korean song by a Korean woman from a Korean record
Free From the City - Poppy Family, from "Which Way You Goin' Billy?"
Half Forgotten Daydreams - John Cameron, from "Sound Gallery"
Let's Stay Together - Claude Denjean, from "Open Circuit"
The Wreck of the Old 97 - Hank Snow, from "The One & Only Hank Snow"
Time is On Our Side - Soul Rebellion Orchestra, from "Dolemite"
Easy Reader - The Electric Company, from "The Electric Company"
La Ragazza Con la Pistola - Nino de Luca, from "Psycho Beat #3"
Free Form in 6 - T. Swift and the Electric Bag, from "Are You
           Experiernced?"
Spoon - Can, from "Ege Bamyasi"
Fluid - Twink, from "Think Pink"
I'm Just Here to Get My Baby Out Of Jail - Bill Dudley, from "Folsom
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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Creed Taylor/Kenyon Hopkins:  Setting the Record Straight
Date: 10 Feb 2000 06:42:05


I wanted to pass on the following note to fans of "Shock!," "Panic!," and
other Kenyon Hopkins/Creed Taylor albums:

TO CORRECT JACK DIAMOND'S EMPHATIC AND INCORRECT INFORMATION
REGARDING KENYON HOPKINS AND CREED TAYLOR....
KEN HOPKINS WAS  A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND, OF COURSE A REMARKABLE MUSICIAN.
AT THE TIME THESE RECORDINGS WERE MADE, KEN WAS UNDER  AN EXCLUSIVE ARTIST
CONTRACT TO CAPITOL RECORDS.  SINCE,
HE COULD NOT USE HIS NAME, HE SUGGESTED USING MINE.  ALSO, "TAYLOR" WAS NOT
THE MONEY BEHIND THESE RECORDINGS, MGM WAS.THE TITLES AND THE CONCEPTS FOR
THESE PROJECTS WERE MINE.KEN HOPKINS WAS A SUPERB ARRANGER/COMPOSER.  MY
FUNCTION
WAS THAT OF WRITER, DIRECTOR/PRODUCER OF THESE EPISODES OF
"SOUND-PICTURES"  WITHOUT THE VISUAL.

YOURS TRULY,

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From: Peter Gingerich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:11:16 -0500


      The recent discussion on Louis Prima (check out Disneys 'Jungle Book'
by the way) leads me to ask:
     Can anyone suggest a source for exotica appearances in the moving
picture medium?
      Do Denny, Esquival, Lyman, et. al. show up in films or concert videos?
Or for that matter Walter Wanderley, Mantovani, The Three Suns?
      Has anyone compiled this info? Dedicated sites, database or mailing
rings? Well stocked stores, compilation tapes, bootlegs?
       There was some exotica flicage awhile back at the Fez here in NYC
(sponsored by Irwin Chusid) but I missed out......

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Arlene Tiger
Date: 10 Feb 2000 06:54:12 -0800 (PST)


I posted about The Female Animal Soundtrack yesterday
(I don't believe it's the same as the "58 Heddy Lamar
flick of the same title)... does anyone have any
information on Arlene Tiger, the breathy chanteuse
backed up by The Clay Pitts Orchestra? My searches
have turned up nothing. She sounds like a rutting
Astrud Gilberto. The music is basically sleazy Bossa
Nova& the cover shots depict what seems to be a
soft-core skin film. Any info appreciated.
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From: "Josh Renaud" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ugly Food That Stanks
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:56:31 -0500



| >"Rapper's Delight"  also on Sugarhill Records and again by the Sugar
| >Hill Gang. I was told once that this was the first big rap song.
|
| Some say it is, but some  back at the urban station I used to program
dusties
| for say it was "Sylvia's Revenge" for Grandmaster Flash's refusal to sign
up
| with Sugar Hill Records under her less than desirable terms. Legend has it
| that Sugar Hill Gang was a Flash wannabe crew that cobbled together a hit
at
| the last minute because GM Flash was ready to go Indie rather than be
| enslaved by such an entrepreneur.. Sylvia Robinson was also in the process
of
| buying up the Chess Records Archives and wanted to control a corner of the
| new music as well. When the song became the national anthem, Flash had
second
| thoughts...JB

If "Rapper's Delight" is a "cobbled together" hit, so be it. I listen to
that song daily.

JOSH

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Subject: (exotica) [obits] Gus Johnson,Shobhana Samarth,David Alfred Boehm,Leo Smit
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:45:20 -0500


                            *Gus Johnson
    WESTMINSTER, Colo. (AP) -- Gus Johnson, the acclaimed drummer who
kept the beat for jazz giants such as Count Basie and Duke
Ellington, died Sunday. He was 86.
    Johnson played with the some of the most famous acts of the
post-World War II era including Benny Goodman, Ella Fitzgerald,
Lena Horne, Woody Herman, Jay McShann, Eddie ``Cleanhead'' Vinson,
Stan Getz, Zoot Sims, Al Cohn and Ralph Sutton.
    Johnson's musical career didn't begin until 1935, when he joined
the Jo Jones sextet in 1935. Johnson played with McShann's band
from 1938 to 1943, when he entered the Army. After World War II, he
joined Vinson and then Earl ``Fatha'' Hines.
    Johnson was a member of Basie's band from the late-1940s to the
mid-1950s.
-----
                         *Shobhana Samarth
    BOMBAY, India (AP) -- Shobhana Samarth, an Indian film actress of
the 1940s, died Wednesday of cancer. She was 84.
    Samarth was considered the most beautiful actress of her time.
Her portrayal of Sita, wife of the Hindu god Ram, in the 1943 film
``Ram Rajya'' won accolades and launched her career.
    Her family has become prominent in the Indian film industry.
Samarth's two daughters, Nutan and Tanuja, also acted in films in
1960s and '70s. Her granddaughter, Kajol, was considered a top
actress in the 1990s.
-----
    NEW YORK (AP) -- David Alfred Boehm, who brought the Guinness
Book of World Records to the United States, died Sunday at the age
of 86.
    Boehm published thousands of titles at Sterling Publishing
Company, which he founded in 1949. But his road to fame began in
1956 when he discovered a pile of unsold books on the shelves of a
Boston warehouse.
    Boehm traveled to London, and obtained the licensing rights to
the Guinness Book of Superlatives by offering a percentage of
future book sales. Soon after, the Guinness Book of World Records
was born.
    The original book had been founded by the Guinness Brewery in
1951 to settle barroom arguments. Soon Sterling and Guinness were
divvying up $1.7 million a year from sales of hundreds of thousands
of books and from licensing the name to everything from museums to
paper cups.
    Boehm's success was so dramatic that more people knew Guinness
for the book than as a creamy Irish stout. After a series of legal
fights in the 1980s, Guinness bought back the license for its name
for $8 million in 1989.
    As record-keeper to the world, Boehm observed emerging trends.
He explained that the Guinness Book of World Records dropped
competitive goldfish consumption from its ranks when he noticed
goldfish were getting smaller, making eating a record number of
them less of an accomplishment.
See also:
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-d-boehm.html
---
A paid obituary for composer and pianist Leo Smit (1921-2000) appeared in
today's NY Times.  A friend and collaborator of Aaron Copland, Smit recorded
Copland's solo piano music (reissued recently on Sony).  A partial list of
his compositions can be found at
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Subject: (exotica) fyi: The Electronic Music Connection
Date: 10 Feb 2000 10:53:57 -0500


Listen to the show at:
http://www.wbur.org/connection/archive/2000/02/0209b.shtml

The Electronic Music Connection.
February 9, 2000.

The electronic music movement was born in the computer labs and
universities of downtown New York City and Europe in the late 1940's. Back
then, the only people who performed and grooved to its random electonic
blips, bleeps and flutters were engineering and philosophy majors.

Their instruments were tape machines, oscillators, dials and knobs. But over
50 years a quiet revolution has taken the music out of the labs and onto the
streets. Rock bands like the Beatles, Genesis, and Led Zepplin were the
first to borrow these sounds and take them out of the classical avant-garde
scene.

Today, DJ's, producers, and pop musicians have brought the experimental
sound works of pioneers like John Cage and Pierre Schaffer into the techno,
jungle, house and illbient clubs all over the world.

Today's guests include, Tod Machover, Composer and Director of
Hyperinstruments/Opera-of-the-Future Group, MIT Media Lab and Morton
Subotnick, one of the world's premier composers of electronic music.

Featured music on today's show:

Silver Apples of the Moon by Morton Subotnick from the CD ôEarly
Modulations:Vintage Voltsö
Etude aux Chemins de Fer by Pierre Schaeffer from the CD ôEarly
Modulations: Vintage Voltsö
Kontakte by Karlheintz Stockhausen from the CD ôStockhausen 3
Elektronische Musik (1952-1960)ö
Edges by Sonic Youth (originally by Christian Wolff) from the CD
ôGoodbye to the 20th Centuryö
A Day in the Life by the Beatles from the CD ôSgt. PepperÆs Lonely
Hearts Club Bandö
Meteorite by Todd Machover from his CD ôTod Machover: Excerpts
from Recent Music (1990- 1999)ö
The Girl with the Sun in Her Head by Orbital from the CD ôIn Sidesö

Related Links
ò Tod Machover on technology and the future of new music.
ò Morton Subotnick's website for for online music creation and exploration.
ò 120 Years of Electronic Music.
ò Listen to what's happening now in electronic music.




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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Creed Taylor/Kenyon Hopkins:  Setting the Record Straight
Date: 10 Feb 2000 18:52:17 +0100


Brad Bigelow wrote:

> I wanted to pass on the following note to fans of "Shock!," "Panic!," and
> other Kenyon Hopkins/Creed Taylor albums:
>
> TO CORRECT JACK DIAMOND'S EMPHATIC AND INCORRECT INFORMATION
> REGARDING KENYON HOPKINS AND CREED TAYLOR....
> KEN HOPKINS WAS  A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND, OF COURSE A REMARKABLE MUSICIAN.
> AT THE TIME THESE RECORDINGS WERE MADE, KEN WAS UNDER  AN EXCLUSIVE ARTIST
> CONTRACT TO CAPITOL RECORDS.  SINCE,
> HE COULD NOT USE HIS NAME, HE SUGGESTED USING MINE.  ALSO, "TAYLOR" WAS NOT
> THE MONEY BEHIND THESE RECORDINGS, MGM WAS.THE TITLES AND THE CONCEPTS FOR
> THESE PROJECTS WERE MINE.KEN HOPKINS WAS A SUPERB ARRANGER/COMPOSER.  MY
> FUNCTION
> WAS THAT OF WRITER, DIRECTOR/PRODUCER OF THESE EPISODES OF
> "SOUND-PICTURES"  WITHOUT THE VISUAL.
>
> YOURS TRULY,
>
> CREED TAYLOR
>

thank god I have not the slightest idea what this is all about...

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Subject: (exotica) Alan Tew Orchestra
Date: 10 Feb 2000 09:59:41 -0800



Does anyone out there have an album by the Alan Tew Orchestra titled "This
Is My Scene"?  I've been trying to locate a copy for quite some time now.

Oh, and along these same lines...does anyone out there have any recordings
by the Charles Blackwell Orchestra?

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Subject: (exotica) Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks
Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:13:19 EST



In a message dated 2/10/0 9:58:13 AM, you wrote:

>If "Rapper's Delight" is a "cobbled together" hit, so be it

I may have misspoken. The song was most likely a work of what Frank Zappa
called "continuous continuity" developed in the killing fields of the local
performance stage. It was probably a well-known jam in the Sugar Hill area
where the gang performed (BTW, many black communities have a Sugar Hill
section, one exists right here in the Roxbury section of Boston). When Flash,
obviously a sturdier act, resisted Sylvia Robinson's arm-twist, she merely
tapped into an already existing and locally known rap. I too love the rap,
play it at every DJ gig I get regardless of where it is and who its for and
it always gets people on the floor enjoying it. Just for good measure I mix
it right out of Chic's "Good Times." You'd be surprised at how many people
learn then and there that they are the same song!


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Date: 10 Feb 2000 14:17:06 EST




>Brad Bigelow wrote:

>> I wanted to pass on the following note to fans of "Shock!," "Panic!," and
>> other Kenyon Hopkins/Creed Taylor albums:

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks
Date: 10 Feb 2000 12:57:45 -0800 (PST)


Thanks to everyone for the insights on this great song.  I saw it the other
day for sale for 50 cents but passed  on it since I already have a copy.

One of my favorite rap songs ever was the Double Dutch Bus which I remember
reading sold over 100,000 copies in NY alone.

Any insights/info  into this song are appreciated.

Easy listening in the Big easy
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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Alan Tew Orchestra
Date: 10 Feb 2000 22:31:36 GMT


> Does anyone out there have an album by the Alan Tew Orchestra titled "This
> Is My Scene"?  I've been trying to locate a copy for quite some time now.
>

Yes, I have it (mono copy rather than stereo). What do you want to know?

All I can recall right now is that it has versions of Spanish Flea
and These Boots Are Made For Walking, and a really great cover of
psychedelic Carnaby St. plus Mr. Tew sitting on a stepladder looking
stern in his sinister shades and shiny shoes.

> Oh, and along these same lines...does anyone out there have any recordings
> by the Charles Blackwell Orchestra?
>

Probably you already know this, but there was a feature on Charles
Blackwell in "Record Collector" some moons again. IIRC, there were
only ever a couple of singles; an album, set to be called "Those
Plucking Strings" was shamefully cancelled.

Cheers
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From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get?
Date: 10 Feb 2000 17:48:53 -0500


Kevin wrote:
>Now is probably the time to investigate newer albums only available on
>LP (unless someone wishes to enlighten me...).  Knowing that the quality
>of some of the later material varied (due to ghosting, style
>experimentation, etc.) I am not sure which albums to seek out on the
>auction sites, used record shops, etc.

One interesting one to look out for is 1982's _The Enchanted Isle_.

Until someone tells me otherwise, I believe this is the real Martin
Denny returning to the classic exotica style of his late-50s LPs.
Nice album.

cheers,
  --Ross

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 10 Feb 2000 16:46:24 -0800


>      The recent discussion on Louis Prima (check out Disneys 'Jungle Book'
>by the way) leads me to ask:

Most definitely check out Disney's animated "The Jungle Book".  Louie and
Phil Harris' duet in the film is priceless and is one of the highlights
of the film.

>     Can anyone suggest a source for exotica appearances in the moving
>picture medium?
>      Do Denny, Esquival, Lyman, et. al. show up in films or concert videos?
>Or for that matter Walter Wanderley, Mantovani, The Three Suns?

I can tell you for sure that The Walter Wanderley Trio appeared both on
The Tonight Show and on The Mike Douglas Show during the 60s.  I don't
have a month/yr. for The Mike Douglas appearance, but the one appearance
on The Tonight Show was immediately following the summer of '66 when
"Summer Samba" ruled the AM airwaves.  I assume it was either a fall or
early winter episode of the show.  I have asked on television mailing
lists for this particular episode of The Tonight Show, but no one had any
copy of it or even knew it existed.  I would give anything to see either
of these appearances on video!

Regards,
--bj
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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quad
Date: 10 Feb 2000 17:07:08 -0800


>One of the interesting issues about re-issuing quad LPs isn't
>that the quad-mix/effect is preserved -- it's that the quad-mix is
>used at all! It turns out that most quad encoded releases differed
>from the stereo release by either having more sounds present, or by
>using entirely different backing tracks. In some cases, the quad and
>stereo mixes are completely different takes (shades of the mono/stereo
>EXOTICA lps). What with the clarity of CD digital, and the
>availability of SurroundSound encoding, it would be cool if more of
>the quad mixes were made available when LPs are reissued.

I haven't experienced Quad CD reissues of Quad LPs at all...I know for
sure that Henry Mancini's Quad LPs (among them being the very recently
reissued "Brass, Ivory and Strings" w/Doc Severinsen) were released in
regular 2-channel stereo on CD [even though they reproduced the LP covers
faithfully and put the "QuadraDisc" logo on the CD cover!].  And Quad and
Dolby Surround Sound are not exactly compatible since Dolby Surround
Sound includes a Center channel which Quad does not have (or use) and
also, the surround channel is mono (both speakers), whereas Dolby Digital
has the stereo surround channel--which would make it much more compatible
w/Quad.

Regards,
--bj
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Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:15:10 EST



In a message dated 2/10/0 7:48:36 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I can tell you for sure that The Walter Wanderley Trio appeared both on
>The Tonight Show and on The Mike Douglas Show during the 60s.  I don't
>have a month/yr. for The Mike Douglas appearance, but the one appearance
>on The Tonight Show was immediately following the summer of '66 when
>"Summer Samba" ruled the AM airwaves.

Mr. Nit-Pick backatcha. I love "Summer Samba". I have versions by WW, Howard
Roberts, Ramsey Lewis, Combustible Edison and am waiting for a 12'; remix.
But Summer Samba did not "rule" the airwaves. It gained a respectable
position, reaching #26 on the U.S. pop charts and was a nine week hit. Pretty
good for an unknown organist from Brazil whose style has captured hearts and
minds thru the ages. But being a vet '66-er, in all honesty, the Beatles
reigned supreme with "Paperback Writer" b/w "Rain" that year, especially
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yesterday's scores
Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:38:17 EST


In a message dated 02/09/2000 9:32:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< But for every record that gets heavy bidding action and goes for big
bucks,
 there are dozens and dozens of LP's that never receive a bid or are won by a
 single bidder who meets a very reasonable minimum.
  >>

I'm  with Mr. Hip.  I've gotten some great stuff in great condition for $3.00
a pop, and most of the folks I've bought from have at least a few other cool
albums that they'll sell you without going through eBay.

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 10 Feb 2000 17:50:57 -0800


>In a message dated 2/10/0 7:48:36 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>I can tell you for sure that The Walter Wanderley Trio appeared both on
>>The Tonight Show and on The Mike Douglas Show during the 60s.  I don't
>>have a month/yr. for The Mike Douglas appearance, but the one appearance
>>on The Tonight Show was immediately following the summer of '66 when
>>"Summer Samba" ruled the AM airwaves.
>
>Mr. Nit-Pick backatcha. I love "Summer Samba". I have versions by WW, Howard
>Roberts, Ramsey Lewis, Combustible Edison and am waiting for a 12'; remix.

You haven't really heard "Summer Samba" until you've heard the Brazilian
version that Walter recorded years before he hit the U.S. shores.  It's a
totally different arrangement, saxes have the melody, tempo is
significantly "upped", and simply put--it sounds NOTHING like the one WW
recorded in the U.S.  Also significant is the arrangement of "Summer
Samba" that WW recorded with Doris Monteiro (a well liked Brazilian
singer) in the early 60s on one of her own albums in Brazil.  And--WW
never repeated himself.  On "Brazil's Greatest Hits" (GNP/Crescendo), he
offers yet another different arrangment of the tune and this time
includes synthesizer.

>But Summer Samba did not "rule" the airwaves. It gained a respectable
>position, reaching #26 on the U.S. pop charts and was a nine week hit.

Billboard chart positioning means very little to me when I remember how
frequently it was played.  In addition, please read the interview I did
with Claudio Slon (Walter's drummer) on Page 6 of my WW site.  He clearly
states:  "When the single "Summer Samba" was released, the radio stations
started playing it solidly about 4 or 5 times EVERY HOUR!"

If that ain't 'ruling the airwaves', I don't know what is...

>Pretty
>good for an unknown organist from Brazil whose style has captured hearts and
>minds thru the ages.

"Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they say..." to wit:
Walter was NOT an unknwon organist.   His recordings in the U.S. merely
introduced him to a brand new audience.  I can assure you that he was
famous in Brazil for many years before he boarded that plane to come to
the U.S. in '66.  He was in his early thirties when he got to New York
and had been a recording STAR in Brazil since the age of 18!!!

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography

Added today:  Interview with Bobby Rosengarden (Page 6)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 10 Feb 2000 21:04:32 -0500


>       There was some exotica flicage awhile back at the Fez here in NYC
>(sponsored by Irwin Chusid) but I missed out.....

A Jay Schwartz / Secret Cinema screening to be precise.

http://www.voicenet.com/~jschwart/


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Subject: (exotica) Optigans?
Date: 10 Feb 2000 22:13:38 -0500


Just curious - what is an optigan?  Anyways, for all those interested
(and able to pick up CBC FM on their radios), this weekend, Radio Sonic
is running a show on it with former listmember Pea Hicks.  Here's the
blurb they sent me:

On Sunday February 13, airing 6:30PM - 8:00PM, David Wisdom is pleased
to present the creaky nostalgic sounds of the Optigan Lounge. What the
hell is an Optigan? Well, tune in to find out.
Producer James Booth does an interview with Optigan webmaster and member
of the band
Optiganally Yours, Pea Hicks. Hear music that contains the optigan from
Blur, Sukia, The
Wedding Present, Cibo Matto, Tom Waits, and many many more.


cheryl


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From: "Jack" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Speaking of Summer Samba...
Date: 10 Feb 2000 23:05:24 -0500


I have recently purchased the 1999 CD reissue of
a long time favorite thrift L.P. discovery :

Marcos Valle  "Samba '68 "  Verve 559-516

I Never thought that in a 1,000,000 years I would ...

 "The Answer" to the Samba is love.

 Jack from Cincinnati






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Subject: Re: (exotica) Optigans?
Date: 10 Feb 2000 23:10:19 -0500


>Just curious - what is an optigan?  Anyways, for all those interested
>(and able to pick up CBC FM on their radios), this weekend, Radio Sonic
>is running a show on it with former listmember Pea Hicks.

See Pea's site:
http://www.optigan.com/

Short version: similar principle as the Mellotron (which used tape loops of
real instruments for each note), but cheaper and used film-sound type
technology, with transparent plastic discs containing the sounds. Primitive
sampling. I'm not explaining it very well. Just go to Pea's site.


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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kosinus Label Sale
Date: 10 Feb 2000 18:10:28 -0800


Hello Folks,

I am blowing out all KOSINUS label Import CD's

KOSINUS is a Library/Production Music label and that is ALL they are.
That is all they do, BUT they don't sell these CD's.

These CD's are NOT for sale to regular folks like you and me.

They are to be "sold" only in the form of licensing each track,
like for $200.00 each, to be used from anything like music for commercials to
selling Ice Cream, to car commercials, intermission music for ballet,
whatever, etc etc etc

All that great music you hear in commercials was licensed, bought and paid for.
1 track or maybe they only used half of the track or maybe a certain phrase
or coda
of the track.  BUT BE CERTAIN, they paid BIG BUCKS for it and I do mean "it"

CERTAINLY not an ENTIRE CD, CHOCK FULL AND OVERFLOWING (Over 74 Minutes,
each CD)
WITH INSTRUMENTAL MOOG GENIUS from the likes of Jean Jacques Perrey and a
new phenomenon, tremendously influenced by JJP, by the name of Laurent Lombard.

So, about 1 year 4 months ago, I received a CD from the label itself,
KOSINUS and the CD
was the Jean Jacques Perrey-"Good Moog" CD.

40 Tracks taken from 7 rekkids on the famed Montparnasse rekkid label out
of France.
(Whip out your Incredibly Strange Music Books and read about JJ's recorded
history)

Musics ONLY licensed to people in "the industry" and NEVER EVER AVAILABLE
to the likes of anyone such as you or I.
I'm repeating myself, I know:-)

So, Kosinus sent this to me, I then e-mailed Kosinus for about 2 months,
every god damn day for 2 months
and NOTHING, until 1 day I receive an e-mail from a Distributor in France
telling me that they represent Kosinus for Exporting their label into the US.

OK, GREAT, NO PROBLEM, LET'S DO IT.

So, I bought 100 of the "Good Moog" CD's and then when the "Laurent
Lombard-Happyland" CD was released by Kosinus, the distributor mailed me a
copy and I ordered 60 of those.

WHY ?  BECAUSE IT IS THE STUFF THAT DREAMS ARE MADE OF IF YOU LOVE WEIRD
QUIRKY POP INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC JINGLES, FEATURING THE MOOG SYNTHESIZER.
that's why.

I have sold them all along, ever since I got them,
for $20.00 and they have sold regularly.

I sold out of the Laurent Lombard and ordered 40 more about 4 months ago.

Tuesday, I receive a phone call from a lady from Los Angeles, CA, who works
for a Library/Production Music
Licensing company and she tells me that THEY are the WORLD WIDE EXCLUSIVE
licensers of
all Kosinus material and these CD's I have and are selling ARE NOT to be
sold as "regular music CD's"
AND SHE IS LIVID AND __OUT__OF__HER__FREAKIN'___MIND___!

I told her the story I just told you.  That Kosinus sent them to me and
then contacted a distributor to sell them for Kosinus and it's not that I
don't believe her, but I did buy them legally and NO, I will NOT stop
selling them and NO, I will NOT tell her who my distributor is in France.

These are my business associates and I owe THEM long before I owe here
anything.
BUT I said this in a MUCH nicer and professional way

I know it's hard for some of you to believe this last statement, but
regardless...

That I will call my distributor in France and find out what is up with what
and get back to her ASAP, which I did today

She tells me that she is going to send me a court order to "Cease and
Desist" me selling all KOSINUS PRODUCT.

I said, OK:)

SO, if YOU, yeah, I'm talkin' to you, didn't get either or both of these
CD's before at $20.00 + shipping, they are now available for $16.00 + shipping.

AND if I have ANY left when I get this court order, I will then send
everything I have back to France and get my money back, which the
distributor has already agreed to.

I have some MP3 sound samples of each that will give you more than a better
idea
of the greatness of both of these CD's of Library music that puts ANY other
collection of
Library Musics available to the general public to shame.

Listen for yourself at these 2 locations:

jackdiamond.com/catalog_pages/happyland.html

jackdiamond.com/catalog_pages/goodmoog.html

$16.00 plus shipping.

Stock up for Christmas NOW.  It's sooner than you think!  HA!

Jean Jacques Perrey's music from the 1960's and 1970's, only available in
France
AND only available to Advertising Agencies/Ballet/Film/TV/Radio Production
Companies for use as music for commercials...

If you are a fan of Jean Jacques Perrey and even more so, the LP he did with
Harry Brauer "The Happy Moog" on the Pickwick label, then this is what you
have been praying and dreaming about.

A 40 track collection, taken from 7 LP's released on the Montparnasse Record
Label Jean Jacques Perrey: GOOD MOOG; Astral Animations & Komputer
Kartoons.

Harry Brauer, percussionist and arranger extroirdinare, accompanies Jean
Jacques, along with Vinnie Bell on electric guitar and more electronics in
general
as demonstrated in his work on the soundtrack of "Barbarella" (Dynavoice) as
well as his electric guitar work on the Dick Hyman/Mary Mayo masterpiece
"Moon Gas" LP (MGM) and at least 5,000 other records (you can believe it).

If you like/love that, then this Import CD is going to rock your world, in the
nuttiest, silliest, joyous and most fantastique way you NEVER heard Jean
Jacques
Perrey.



Laurent Lombard-"Happyland" CD

99 Tracks of music for commercials with Moog/Electric Guitar, Spanish Classical
Guitars, Bass/Fender Bass, Punching Horn Sections and many wild and weird
percussive instruments, Cowbell, Timbales, Conga Drums and Bongo's etc etc etc
used by Laurent Lombard for these super tight arrangements and very special
recordings, from France. Excellent remastering.

This 74 minute long cd are commercial jingles, many danceable on the Moog and
Ondioline (French Moog) with a wild and zany percusssive background. There
are 99 tracks and one track contains an added treat, the Sitar. The first
33 tracks are the 2 minute
plus commercial jingles and the next 66 are samples used in these jingles with
some great little 10 second snippets of melodies.

Both on the Kosinus label, from France, this is your last chance to get
either or both of these CD's,
as they will NOT be available EVER AGAIN, period.

Thanks and keep rockin'

Jack

Jack Diamond Music
jackdiamond.com

Tune in Jack Diamond's "House of Games" every Saturday and Sunday
morning, from 9AM-11AM (PST), 10AM-Noon (MT) and 11AM-1PM
(ET) and then a repeat of the same shows on Tuesday and Thursday
mornings, from Midnight - 2AM (PST), 1AM-3AM, (MT) and 3-5AM
(ET) on Go Ga Ga Free Form Eclectic Internet Only Radio. gogaga.com
I know you would dig it:)
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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get?
Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:51:37 -0800


Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr wrote:
>
> One interesting one to look out for is 1982's _The Enchanted Isle_.
>
> Until someone tells me otherwise, I believe this is the real Martin
> Denny returning to the classic exotica style of his late-50s LPs.
> Nice album.

I saw this LP earlier today on Ebay and thought the '82 copyright was a
typo.... I guess not.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 11 Feb 2000 00:09:43 EST


In a message dated 2/10/00 9:14:51 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<       The recent discussion on Louis Prima (check out Disneys 'Jungle Book'
 by the way) leads me to ask:
      Can anyone suggest a source for exotica appearances in the moving
 picture medium?
       Do Denny, Esquival, Lyman, et. al. show up in films or concert videos?
 Or for that matter Walter Wanderley, Mantovani, The Three Suns?
       Has anyone compiled this info? Dedicated sites, database or mailing
 rings? Well stocked stores, compilation tapes, bootlegs?
        There was some exotica flicage awhile back at the Fez here in NYC
 (sponsored by Irwin Chusid) but I missed out... >>


Martin Denny has one line, playing a nightclub piano player in the not very
good 1959 film "Forbidden Island" which unfortunatley will pobably never make
it to video. Denny also appeared on the Hawaii Calls TV program which I was
lucky enough to get a tape of from someone on this list. Shot in the
mid-'60s, this is not the classic line-up we are all used to from his seminal
albums.

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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) tiki on a tooth
Date: 11 Feb 2000 02:44:32 PST



Look at this gruesome little fellow on a sperm whale tooth.
http://auctions.yahoo.com/auction/12460699
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Mailing List FAQ
Date: 11 Feb 2000 13:37:46 +0100


To all new list members:

The basic "Frequently Asked Questions" of this list are answered here:
#Exotica mailing list FAQ:
http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html
Contains pics, links to other important sites and more.

Mo
The Moritz R Museum has got a new entrance: http://moritzR.de
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks
Date: 10 Feb 2000 20:04:42 EST



In a message dated 2/10/0 4:00:47 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>One of my favorite rap songs ever was the Double Dutch Bus which I remember
>reading sold over 100,000 copies in NY alone.
>Any insights/info  into this song are appreciated.

I don't know how exotic this all is, but the jam "Double Dutch Bus", done by
a minor league Philly-International and later WMOT producer from the late
7T's/early 8T's, is based on the Double Dutch jumprope game popular among
gyrrrls in Black neighborhoods, frequently on playgrounds, while the dudes
play hoops. Double Dutch is played with two jumpropes, each going in opposite
directions, with a gyrrrl on each end swinging both while one gyrrrl waits
for the right moment to jump in.  Those that can accomplish this for any
respectable length of time (more that a minute or so) are often respected as
having Skillz that pay Billz.  I think Malcom McLaren made a record about
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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get?
Date: 11 Feb 2000 08:52:55 -0500


Speaking of Denny, I ran across his "Oriental Percussion" for $5 a couple =
weeks ago.

Is this a strictly "percussion" album or what...........?

- Nate




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Which Martin Denny LPs to get?
Date: 11 Feb 2000 08:55:29 EST


In a message dated 2/11/00 8:51:26 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Speaking of Denny, I ran across his "Oriental Percussion" for $5 a couple
weeks ago.

 Is this a strictly "percussion" album or what...........? >>
It is pretty much the same as his other albujms although there are no bird
calls if i remember correctly. The percussion is just slightly more
pronounced on some tracks, but otherwise it is typical Denny.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Optigans?
Date: 11 Feb 2000 10:04:18 -0600




"m.ace" wrote:
>
> >Just curious - what is an optigan?  Anyways, for all those interested
> >(and able to pick up CBC FM on their radios), this weekend, Radio Sonic
> >is running a show on it with former listmember Pea Hicks.
>
> See Pea's site:
> http://www.optigan.com/
>
> Short version: similar principle as the Mellotron (which used tape loops of
> real instruments for each note), but cheaper and used film-sound type
> technology, with transparent plastic discs containing the sounds. Primitive
> sampling. I'm not explaining it very well. Just go to Pea's site.
>

Optigans turn up on e-bay every so often, believe it or not.

--

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love
Date: 11 Feb 2000 11:05:33 -0500


At 10:21 AM -0500 2/9/00, Nathan Miner wrote:

>And what's with this airplane worship?

It relates to the golden age of the Jet Set, when air travel was a much
more exclusive and luxurious way to get around, when the rich and the
beautiful would escape to the beaches, the mountains, and to exotic capital
cities. The design element - the logos, the travel bags, advertising
posters, the various acoutrements - exemplifies the Modern look of that era
(Scandanavian/Italian/American furniture, pop/op art, atomic futurism, etc)
so popular with graphic artists today.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (was Yesterday's scores)
Date: 11 Feb 2000 12:09:06 -0500


At 3:59 PM 2/9/0, Nat Kone wrote:

>>From zero to three Esquivels in one afternoon.  Suddenly your collection
>seems a bit more complete.

You got it. Still blissed out with the finds.

>I know what you mean about the mono but as long as you don't hear the
>stereo versions, you should be happy.  When I got some of my exotica
>classics, I didn't even know they'd come out in stereo too so I was pretty
>satisfied... till I heard the stereo. ...  I think of exotica and
>sabp as made for stereo.

Yeah, me too. That's why I wavered before picking up Other Worlds, Other
Sounds. Now the record sits in the Rancho Deluxe stereo pit on display for
all to admire, no regrets. And I still enjoy the arrangements. Plus I have
most of the cuts on CD.

Which brings up a question: Anyone know if the any disks on Stereo Action
series (Capitol?) were ever released in hifi/mono versions? Now that seems
bone stupid to me. Except maybe Movin' and Groovin', The Three Suns. If
this music was recorded to exploit stereo action, then why have hi-fi
versions...unless you dig the arrangements, which is why M&G makes my
must-have list, or unless you're a completist, which I'm not.

Y'all, care to list other Stereo Action records that are must-haves in any
form?

>As far as the price goes.  It's not cheap and it's not a gouging price
>either.  I would have expected a bit more gouging in a hip music-conscious
>spot like Austin.  Then again, maybe the Esquivel thing has levelled out a
>bit.

Agreed. At the Austin Record Convention in October, Esquivels were going
for $25 and up, and I use the prices I saw there as default buying guides.
I've hunted for Esquivels in thrifts for several years now--never found
one. Had the agonizing experience of finding an empty sleeve for More Other
Worlds, Other Sounds in a New Mexico thrift--tore the stacks apart and no
disk. I almost wept in frustration. And bought the sleeve for 50 cents as a
good luck charm, voodoo to guarantee the record would come to me
eventually. Silly. But it seems to have worked.

The Esquivels I got were on consignment, like much of the stock at
Antone's. Perhaps that also explains why the prices were $15.

>Nice to see someone happy to find new music.  Sometimes I think I'm a bit
>too focussed on just adding it to the pile.

That's why I still hesitate before labeling myself a collector. Probably
the only categories where I'm a completist are 1) covers of Nino Rota music
or the actual OSTs he scored and 2)...well, there's not really a 2). I
don't buy records just to have them. Still remain ruthless is culling out
the stuff that doesn't satisfy me.

But I know lots of completists post here. Do any of you have deep thoughts
to share on the completist compulsion...that's negative, sorry: how about
the drive to have every record by an artist you love? Nat, what did you
pick up from the collectors you interviewed for Vinyl?

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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love
Date: 11 Feb 2000 13:44:49 EST



In a message dated 2/11/0 11:27:30 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The design element - the logos, the travel bags, advertising
>posters, the various acoutrements - exemplifies the Modern look of that era
>(Scandanavian/Italian/American furniture, pop/op art, atomic futurism, etc)
>so popular with graphic artists today.

OK Cleve, tell 'em the story of your Air Italia bag from the 6T's and how the
DJ on the NYC station asked you about it...Go on, tell it!


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Optigans?
Date: 11 Feb 2000 11:41:42 -0800 (PST)



For those who like modern soft pop, I can't recommend Pea Hick's cd,
"Optigonally Yours"  enough .   This is fabulous soft quirky pop tunes with
the added bonus of the wonderful sounds of the Optigan.   The optigon was a
fun little toy organ.   Check out Pea Hick's web site  for great information
on it and sound samples.    http://www.optigan.com

Really I just think this is a great great fun modern soft pop classic!

Lucas and Freinds while not about optiagans is an amazing cd discussed on
this list before and its about making a cd of found tapes at garage sails
where kids recorded their voices doing rediculous stuff.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


--- cheryl  wrote:
>
> Just curious - what is an optigan?  Anyways, for all those interested
> (and able to pick up CBC FM on their radios), this weekend, Radio Sonic
> is running a show on it with former listmember Pea Hicks.  Here's the
> blurb they sent me:
>
> On Sunday February 13, airing 6:30PM - 8:00PM, David Wisdom is pleased
> to present the creaky nostalgic sounds of the Optigan Lounge. What the
> hell is an Optigan? Well, tune in to find out.
> Producer James Booth does an interview with Optigan webmaster and member
> of the band
> Optiganally Yours, Pea Hicks. Hear music that contains the optigan from
> Blur, Sukia, The Wedding Present, Cibo Matto, Tom Waits, and many many
more.


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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love
Date: 11 Feb 2000 14:46:46 -0500


At 1:44 PM -0500 2/11/00, [e-mail] wrote:

>OK Cleve, tell 'em the story of your Air Italia bag from the 6T's and how the
>DJ on the NYC station asked you about it...Go on, tell it!

You mean the one my wife found in the trash on our street that the DJ told
me they were selling for over $500 in a Soho boutique. Or would sell for a
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
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Date: 11 Feb 2000 11:46:17 -0800 (PST)


What a gorgous site Mo!

I am proud to be on a list with you

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians
Date: 11 Feb 2000 15:29:17 -0500


The Antone's outing also coughed up a CD lots of you would dig: Savage
Night by The Blue Hawaiians (Coolsville/Interscope '99). Don't know if this
neo-exotica/surf/lounge/bluesy band has come up here.

I'm gone on this CD.

=46irst, the name: a potent blue cocktail best served in a half coconut
shell, aflame. Sexy vocals by the bassist Mark Fontana, who sounds like the
second cousin of Roy Orbinson in low registers or Chris Issaks (sp?).
Semitropical semitribal drum tracks (Tom Maxwell). Fine fine fine guitars
(Mark Sproul) with steel guitar licks (Gary Brandon) for dangerous Island
street cred. Hammond B-3 organ, (Michael Murphy or Red Young, who sit in).
Horns where they work: trumpets, fluegelhorn, tenor and bari sax. A song
list most exoticats would respect: covers of Mancini's Experiment in
Terror, Wait's Jockey Full of Bourbon, a Sway that deserved mention on the
recent discussion of this tune, and Shakin' All Over, for me the only weak
cut on the CD.

Strong originals including a crime jazzy tune Savage Night, A Cheat that's
real Chris Issakish, High Life, and Hot Rods to Honolulu, starts out all
exotica-smooth then gets manickly nuts, a tune to clear the club just
before last call. Plus 2 secret bonus tracks: a Hammond organ solo that
really should have the Continental cooing over it ala Pepe le Pew, and
My Swingin' Hula
Out on an island in the middle of the sea
There's a swinging hula girl that waits for me
Her eyes are softer than the moonlight on the sand
I want to be her swingin' hula man
My swinging hula
I'm acting like a fool-a
Where did you go to school-a
Learn to dance that way?
Your moves excite me
I want you, I mean nightly
Do you think I might be
Your hula man someday?

Anyone recognize these lyrics?

My dear Moritz, you'd like the design of the CD booklet and
website--accordion fold Photoshop stuff with blinking tiki lights on the
web. Get a eyeful at the band's website, www.thebluehawaiians.com. Promised
sound samples didn't download here. Mimi










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Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (long response)
Date: 11 Feb 2000 16:19:49 -0500


At 12:09 PM 2/11/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote:
>But I know lots of completists post here. Do any of you have deep thoughts
>to share on the completist compulsion...that's negative, sorry: how about
>the drive to have every record by an artist you love? Nat, what did you
>pick up from the collectors you interviewed for Vinyl?

If you're going to split hairs and categorize different collecting
impulses, probably you have to start with the two categories of
"accumulating" versus "collecting".
These are not mutually exclusive categories since every collector I met was
also an accumulator.  But not all accumulators are collectors.
A collector is someone looking for something specific, focussed.
Usually that consists of one artist.  Or a few.
If someone collects a "genre", then they're probably an accumulator.  But
they could be a collector as well.
An exotica collector might be someone looking for Martin Denny and Les
Baxter records but who picks up related things when they see them.

This is basically a preface to saying that IF you're a collector - as
opposed to an accumulator - then I think the "completism" thing is an
inherent and "natural" part of that.
If you collect Marc Bolan as one guy does in my film or Elvis as another
guy does, then you want EVERYTHING.  And I do mean everything.
Of course, even within the category of "everything", collectors make their
own interpretations of what is necessary and what is superfluous.  They
make distinctions that would probably be "invisible" to the rest of us.
They may want every "edition" of the same record, from different countries,
with different covers or inner sleeves.  But if the South African and the
Scandinavian edition have the same cover, they may pass on having both of
them.  Or not.

BUT in terms of the completism that you're talking about, which just means
having every record - not every issue of the record - there's no doubt they
want that.

And I understand that.  I was once that way about Al Green and maybe even
Curtis Mayfield, even though he did make some half-sucky records at some
point.

I love the Louvin Brothers.  I visited some guy and he had just bought
their complete box set on Bear Family, which consisted of something like
eight CD's.  I have a few LP's, a greatest hits CD and one CD reissue.  I
told him I didn't think I wanted the box set.  He said "If you love them,
why wouldn't you want to hear EVERYTHING they did???"

And I couldn't really answer that.  It's not that I don't want to hear it,
but more that I don't want to own it.  (And I find that I don't play box
sets anyway.)

I think we all have some form of completism in us.  It's like another
friend of mine said "If I find Volume 2 of some record, I start wondering
'Where's Volume one?'"

When I bought Provocative Percussion and Persuasive Percussion, I didn't
know there were four volumes of each of them.  Then I found Volume 3 of one
of them and maybe Volume 4 of the other one.  Then I started to think I
wanted all four Volumes of each.
Then I had them.  Then I went on a Command purge and decided that I didn't
really need Volumes 3 and 4 of either of them.  But I only managed to sell
those volumes of Provocative and kept all four Persuasive.
And call me neurotic but I sorta miss the last two volumes of Provocative
that I sold AND I still wonder why I kept the volumes of Persuasive that I
kept.

In order to be a completist, you have to actually KNOW what's out there.
You have to have the discographies.  Thus you get guys at stores or record
shows who carry around lists to remind them what they have and what they
still "need".

One of the reasons I'm not a completist is because I don't know what's out
there, don't know much about what I DON'T have and I usually have to
actually find the record before I can go "Oh look Duane Eddy did a record
of all Dylan covers!"

Being on this list for the last two years (coming up on my anniversary I
think) HAS changed that to some degree because I hear about records I don't
have and then they go on the tiny mental "want list".  But if you were a
real collector, you'd go out looking for them, make a concerted effort, go
up to dealers at the shows and ask specifically for that record.  And I
don't do that.  My want list consists of records I hope I come across someday.

There are easy listening/lounge/exotica artists who I'd like to have a
"significant sampling" of but in a lot of cases, I think completism would
be too much mainly because they made so many records.

I'd also contend that with this genre, it's the "sound" more than the
"artists" that I'm interested in.  So for instance, no matter how much I
like Les Baxter's exotica records or even his psychedelic soundtrack stuff,
being a Les Baxter completist wouldn't make sense.  I don't want his fairly
standard big band records and I had no trouble trading his soundtrack to
some Hercules movie - or was it Samson? - because it was pretty standard
orchestral stuff.

I think we have a Command collector on this list and now we appear to have
a Walter Wanderly collector too.  But I doubt they're completists in the
sense that Beatles or Cliff Richards or Jim Reeves collectors usually are.

I don't think that any collecting or completism or even accumulating - on
the level I do it anyway - is JUST about the music.  But some
manifestations of it are less about the music and some are more.

Having said that, I do think that the mentality which would strive for A
COMPLETE SET of anything, is very human.

It's just that some of us want too much of the other stuff too.

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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (was Yesterday's scores)
Date: 11 Feb 2000 22:09:57 +0100


>That's why I still hesitate before labeling myself a collector. Probably
>the only categories where I'm a completist are 1) covers of Nino Rota music
>or the actual OSTs he scored

ever heard of a cd called "Felliniana" released here in Italy in early 90's
consisting of techno/dance arrangments, with a latin feel, of soundtracks
from Fellini movies (mostly by Rota)?
Some bits are really crappy but I still believe it's fun. ;)

bye,
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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (was Yesterday's scores)
Date: 11 Feb 2000 13:56:24 -0800


>But I know lots of completists post here. Do any of you have deep thoughts
>to share on the completist compulsion...that's negative, sorry: how about
>the drive to have every record by an artist you love?

No need to apologize for that statement.  Collectors are very compulsive
people and I'll be the first to admit it because I'm one myself.  We're
the only ones who salivate at the thought of finding something belonging
to our heroes when we go out on a "hunt"...  The rest of humanity usually
has a "I can take it or leave it" buying philosophy.

However, the completist philosophy (in my case, anyway) does vary with
the hobby being pursued.  In music, I usually like to have everything
that a hero has done if for no other reason than for my personal
evaluation, since I take what other reviewers and critics say with a
grain of salt and like to make up my own mind about an album (same as I
do with movies).  If it turns out that I really hate or can't stand the
album (and this is very rare), I can always sell the item myself.

With other hobbies that I maintained in the past, I definitely did not
buy something that I didn't like the looks or style of, regardless of
whether it was considered part and parcel of that item's world.  These
were non-music items that didn't involve listening or other evaluation
beyond careful eyeball observation.

Regards,
--bj
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 13
Date: 11 Feb 2000 17:15:08 -0500


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:=20

http://www.ckut.ca
=20
As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.


Space Bop #82   Kinky Beats


Jacknife Lee:  Here Kitty Kitty  "Kinky Beats"
Tak=E9 Rodriguez & His Exotic Arkestra:  Cat Ska  "Pasi=F3n De Ritmo"    =09
Resident Filters:  Big Train  "Kinky Beats"=09
    =09
Bobby Hughes Experience:  Sahara 72  "Fusa Riot"
Trio El=E9trico:  Luneria  "Jet Society"
Mo' Horizons:  Fever 99 Degrees  "Come Touch The Sun"    =09
    =09
Daddy Long Legs:  Spy Versus Spy  "Pussy Galore"
Eno:  Ali Click (Beirut Hilton Mix)  "Ali Click"
Ursula 1000:  The Shake  "The Now Sound Of..."=09
    =09
The Maxwell Implosion:  Jet Ski  "Pool Position"
Le Hammond Inferno:  Margret Evening Fashion (LHI vs Copasetic Mix)=20
"Easy Leasing Superstar"=09
Masanori Ikeda:  Theme From Lupin The 3rd  "Pool Position"


Thanks for reading. =20


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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians
Date: 11 Feb 2000 14:39:04 -0800


The Blue Hawaiians have a great song on their "Christmas from Big
Island" CD called "Have yourself a Quiet little Christmas".

The song uses the bass line from "Quiet Village" to wonderfully
excellent effect!

The rest of the stuff I've heard tends to be more surf in sound, though
it is clear these guys are in the tiki/exotica vibe with regards to
packaging and attitude.

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From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 11 Feb 2000 12:40:38 -0800


> Lyman and band appear as the house band in the Shell bar in an episode of
> Hawaiian Eye TV show
>
> Aloha
> Otto
>
> [e-mail]
> www.tikinews.com


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From: [e-mail]
Subject:  Re: (exotica) Airports, airplanes, and the people who love
Date: 11 Feb 2000 20:05:57 EST



In a message dated 2/11/0 2:43:26 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>You mean the one my wife found in the trash on our street that the DJ told
>me they were selling for over $500 in a Soho boutique. Or would sell for a
>cool grand or two in Tokyo? THAT story?

Yeah, the one where you had the Alitalia bag on a drive to NYC and were
asked, "Where did you get THAT?" The DJ asked U where you got it when you
arrived in the studio with Thee Millionaire prior to checking in at your
"place of lodging"  and you responded that your wife found it in the trash
and left a DJ, a DDJJ no less, momentarily dumbfounded! (I knew the tale
beforehand ;-)) JB


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Optigans?
Date: 11 Feb 2000 20:08:57 EST



In a message dated 2/11/0 2:43:48 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Pea Hick's cd,
>"Optigonally Yours". This is fabulous soft quirky pop tunes with
>the added bonus of the wonderful sounds of the Optigan.   The optigon was a
>fun little toy organ.

Does this compare in anyway with "The Magic Organ" LP's? The late 7T's
recordings where a fake organ is accompanied by the beat options contained
within its cheap little box??


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From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians
Date: 11 Feb 2000 18:27:16 -0800


> and don't forget thta the reason The Blue Hawaiians started was to be house
> band at the Lava Lounge a new Exotic bar owned by a very cool Tiki lover
>
> Aloha
> Otto
>
> [e-mail]
> www.tikinews.com
>
> ----------
> >From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
> >To: Mimi Mayer <[e-mail]>
> >Cc: [e-mail]
> >Subject: Re: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians
> >Date: Fri, Feb 11, 2000, 2:39 PM
> >
>
> >
> >The Blue Hawaiians have a great song on their "Christmas from Big
> >Island" CD called "Have yourself a Quiet little Christmas".
> >
> >The song uses the bass line from "Quiet Village" to wonderfully
> >excellent effect!
> >
> >The rest of the stuff I've heard tends to be more surf in sound, though
> >it is clear these guys are in the tiki/exotica vibe with regards to
> >packaging and attitude.
> >
> >-Kevin


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Mailing List FAQ
Date: 12 Feb 2000 16:33:52 +0100


Thanks, Chuck. I admit, there was a bit of advertising involved, but mainly I
have been reading so many questions of new list members lately, that I felt,
that many might not be aware of the fact that there is an elaborated FAQ.
Thanks to Ross again, who once started it.

Speaking of it: ALL list-members with web sites that have a link in the FAQ:
please check if the web address is still up to date; other wise contact me or
Ross!

Mo

P.S.: Chuck, could you explain to non-native-english-speaking people what is
meant by the expression "The Big Easy"? I have been asking me that for quite a
while now. There's also a TV series with that title (pretty good one btw).

chuck wrote:

> What a gorgous site Mo!
> I am proud to be on a list with you
>
> Easy listening in the Big Easy
> Chuck
>
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> >
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> > #Exotica mailing list FAQ:
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (long response)
Date: 12 Feb 2000 16:34:21 +0100


So, Nat, how'd you call someone who wants to have ALL GOOD records, no
matter what genre or time? Like me. For instance: I LOVE Martin Denny,
but I sold Exotic Moog, because I didn't care for it. I also got rid of
several Les Baxter, Arthur Lyman et al. Problem with this kind of
collecting is, that I tend to sell the records that I don't like
ANYMORE, and of course later regret it.

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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FeelthyRadioTonight
Date: 12 Feb 2000 09:45:54 -0800


The planets, aligned, the gods smiled, and the netcast is ON!  (Saturday
evening, starting 5 or 6ish PST)

Getting friends together these days is like organizing a Middle East peace
treaty, but I managed to find a time to get some good friends into the same
room at the same time, and we decided the best way to spend it is playing
records for each other...and anyone on the net who'd care to hear.

We are trying a new format - this time broadcasting from my office, rather
than my old (and now gone) dungeonlike basement-Tiki-haven of the past.  I
set up some turntables, etc and tested the lines and all is working nicely.
We even will have a live cam for your viewing enjoyment. This should be
interesting.

It's not all exotica - Lots of folks bringin' lots of stuff from all over
the musical map, so it should be interesting and eclectic. Nobody will be
accomplished DJ's...Just folks with rekkids.  We'd be so pleased if anyone
would care to join the party.

http://www.xtabay.com/feelthyradio.htm

If you need help with tuning in, send email or use the ICQ pager provided on
the Feelthy page.


See you there.

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Porn to Rock
Date: 12 Feb 2000 22:04:33 +0100


Haven't seen this mentioned before:

from www.porntorock.com

PORN TO ROCK
A Collection of Songs Performed by the Top Stars of Adult Film

The Project: Porn to Rock is a compilation of songs that showcases the
musical talents of thirteen adult film actors and actresses. The performers
are enormous celebrities in their own right, with fan clubs, Internet sites
and online newsgroups dedicated to them, but few have had the exposure they
deserve for their musical talent.

The Artists: The performers on Porn to Rock range from retired legends of
the business like Ginger Lynn to newcomers like Chloe Nichole. Some
performers already have a connection to the music world, like Candye Kane
(who has a new release on Sire records), David Burrill (on Macola records)
and Geoffrey Karen Dior (who duets with 80's icon Stacey Q). The CD crosses
lines of sexual preference with gay film stars like Marshall O Boy, and
famed S/M team Vinnie Spit and Mistress Jacqueline. The release also
includes tracks by Hyapatia Lee, Suzi Suzuki, Johnny Toxic, Nina Whett,
Midori and Madison.

The Music: The music on Porn to Rock is as varied and eclectic as the mix of
performers. Virtually all styles are covered, from Rock 'n' Roll to Swing,
Techno and Dance, music fans will find something to like in these tracks.
What will come as a surprise to many is how good these songs are - many of
them live up to todays top radio hits.


My vinyl copy (european pressing?) is from Normal Records / Q.D.K. Media
(www.normal-records.com). I also noticed there seems to be a new Betty Page
volume : Private Girl, or has this been out a while?


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (long response)
Date: 12 Feb 2000 16:11:40 -0500


At 04:34 PM 2/12/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote:
>
>So, Nat, how'd you call someone who wants to have ALL GOOD records, no
>matter what genre or time? Like me. For instance: I LOVE Martin Denny,
>but I sold Exotic Moog, because I didn't care for it. I also got rid of
>several Les Baxter, Arthur Lyman et al. Problem with this kind of
>collecting is, that I tend to sell the records that I don't like
>ANYMORE, and of course later regret it.

You're an accumulator.  I know it's not as clear and decisive a word as
"collector" but strictly speaking, a collector is more focussed than you.
And a collector is driven to have COMPLETE SETS
Most collectors of rock n roll will have a specific focus on a couple of
artists and be driven to get complete sets of that artist's work. That's
the definition of collecting.  But many of them will also pick up other
rock n roll records as they see them, on a casual basis.
They're looking for every single thing that's even vaguely related to Eddie
Cochrane for instance but they'll probably have some Carl Perkins just
because they like him too.
In that sense, most collectors are also accumulators.  But the reverse
doesn't hold true.  Most accumulators don't have enough focus of any kind
to "qualify" as collectors.
If you're looking for "ALL GOOD" records, that's too wide and unfocussed a
target to be called "collecting".  However if, within that accumulating
tendency, there were a couple of artists on whom you were focussed, you
could be considered a collector TOO.
But here's the reason I know you're not a collector. A Martin Denny
collector would never get rid of one of his records because they didn't
particularly care for it.  They might be disappointed but they wouldn't
break up the set over such a consideration.
Musical appreciation certainly influences their habit but it doesn't drive it.
By definition, "completism" is implicit in collecting.  There's no need to
qualify it.  It's redundant.
A Martin Denny collector would say "Here's every record Martin Denny ever
made. And oh yeah, here's the one that represents his unfortunate foray
into moog music".  They may never play it but they have to be able to point
it out, pull it off the shelf and show it to you.
And I understand that impulse even though I don't practice it.

I drive myself crazy being an accumulator with a bit of the collector's
impulse.  And apparently so do you.
I'm always getting rid of records, trying to evaluate them on this sliding
scale of musical appreciation, cultural uniqueness or significance and
various other qualifiers. But it's so inconsistent and even random.  I keep
one record because it's the only record I have by that guy.  And I get rid
of another one because I have five by that artist and this is the worst one.
At that same time, that artist's worst record might still be "better" than
the one record I have by the first guy.  But I also really love the cover
on the first guy's record.
If I had the utter clarity of a collector, I'd be spared the anxiety of
this kind of decision.  And I'd never suffer regret at a record I wrongly
got rid of.

If anyone's still reading this and they think that "accumulator vs
collector" is a distinction without a difference, I can appreciate that.
As Mo knows, I don't bother to make this distinction in my film (which
finally has a "world premiere" coming up in Toronto in May).
I have accumulators and collectors in the film and I don't bother to point
out who's who, though I think in some cases it's obvious.
I think there's a fair bit of crossover between collectors and accumulators
and that essentially they belong in the same club (and the same film.)
But I do think the distinction is both interesting and instructive.

Accumulators and collectors look for records differently.  Collectors, in
general, don't go to thrift stores.  They already have the basic stuff you
can get there and even though it may be true that you never know what
you'll find there, they're sure enough they won't find anything that it's
deemed not worth their time.
Mo, you and I go to thrift stores because we're interested in so much that
we can always find something we "want".
In fact, you could argue that we've moulded our taste in such a way as to
assure ourselves always finding "something".
I like finding stuff I didn't know existed, taking it home and discovering
what it is.
Collectors generally know what's out there before they leave their house.
They're not driven by surprise and discovery like we are.

At this very moment, I'd like to go to a thrift store.  Not because I hope
I'll find that elusive Enoch Light record I need to help complete my set
but because the process of fingering my way through endless bins of crap is
the drug that I need.

Nat



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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) interesting-sounding new release
Date: 12 Feb 2000 15:54:42 -0800


> SCANNER / DAVID SHEA -Free Chocolate Love (Themes Vol.1) CD=20
> Sit back, relax and plunge into the lush enticing world of=85 FREE =
CHOCOLATE=20
> LOVE.=20
>=20
> The split album =91Free Chocolate Love=92 is a tribute from David S=
hea and=20
> Scanner to lounge or cocktail music, the first opus of a new collec=
tion=20
> called Themes. Themes is an invitation to a high tech travel to the=
 land of
> =91cult=92 music, from Les Baxter to Prince Charles, Jean-Jacques P=
errey to=20
> Latino Soul, soundtracks to=85=20
>=20
> What is the essence to all these strange cult anthems, what is the =
common=20
> factor to kitschy disco and Attilio Mineo=92s futuristic extravagan=
ce? An=20
> answer to discover in the next Themes=92 volumes through the work o=
f Atom=20
> Heart, Stock-Hausen and Walkman, Rip-Off Artist, etc... A wide rang=
e of=20
> influences: lounge, electro-funk, disco, samba, electro-pop, etc...=
 If=20
> there=92s a general thematic guideline behind Themes, it=92s that t=
here are no=20
> genre restrictions. The main idea is the confrontation of these pea=
rls from
> the past and the present technology or techniques...=20
>=20
> Track Listing=20
> A1. XX7=92s theme=20
> A2. Misty Moods theme=20
> A3. Theme from Lost, Lonely, and Vicious=20
> A4. Theme from The Love Of Light=20
> B1. Theme from Smootchy Smootchy=20
> B2. Theme from Waterfall=20
> B3. Theme from Peach Garden=20
> B4. Theme from Moon Landing=20
>=20
> David Shea=20
> In David Shea=92s universe nothing seems to be impossible! Imagine =
Spike=20
> Jones remixed by John Cage or Lil=92 Louis working with Stockhausen=
; the=20
> meeting of Tex Avery and Jean-Luc Godard with a musical illustratio=
n from=20
> Les Baxter. As a =91human sampler=92 Shea tends to redefine the com=
mon=20
> space-continuum, geographical, sociological and musical frontiers, =
reaching
> a point of restructuring where anachronism is senseless. As a solo =
artist,=20
> or playing with John Zorn, Zenna Parkins, Marc Ribot, Scanner, Shea=
 never=20
> forgets that improvisation is pleasure...=20
>=20
> Scanner=20
> Since 1993, Scanner (AKA Robin Rimbaud) is the =91flaneur electroni=
que=92,=20
> turning =93voyeurism=94 into art. The story began with the simple u=
se of a=20
> mobile phone scanner extracting textures and voices from one=92s da=
ily=20
> telephone conversation; the Art of Peeping. After an =91In the shad=
ow=92=20
> period, when the scanner mystery virus spread rapidly, he is now ru=
nning=20
> against time, producing a constant and massive flow of material for=
 the=20
> radio, theater, installations, various names under his nickname or =
as Robin
> Rimbaud. Scanner is also known as producer, remixer, and recently s=
tarted=20
> his own label Sulphur.=20
>=20
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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (was Yesterday's scores)
Date: 12 Feb 2000 19:38:15 -0500


Mimi asked -

>Which brings up a question: Anyone know if the any disks on Stereo Action
>series (Capitol?) were ever released in hifi/mono versions? Now that seems
>bone stupid to me. ........
>If this music was recorded to exploit stereo action, then why have hi-fi
>versions...

To make money!
Stereos, like color TV's, were an expensive luxury item in the 50's/60's,
and a great many people only had monophonic players (to go with their b&w
TV's); I know my family did. The mono versions (yes, they do exist on all
those titles) were sold for a dollar less. List price for mono records was
3.98, list for stereo was 4.98. They were sold for a dollar or so less than
list - - I used to buy my records at Krey's Disc Shop for $2.77 (I bet
JimmyB did too!)

br cleve


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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A Peek at the SOOP
Date: 13 Feb 2000 11:31:02 +1100


For all those on the fence about the Moog Soops or just waiting for them to
arrive, I've posted all of the packaging, track lists and liners here:

http://www.lobue-art.com/soop.html

The idea here is, besides showing what they're all about, that instead of me
spending about $2 on each 1440 dpi printout of the packaging, you can
download them for yourself...there's a spot on the site to grab hi-res scans
of the artwork.

Go check it out and let me know what you think!  Three years of hard
collecting summarized!

Cheers,

Keith

****************************
http://www.lobue-art.com
A virtual gallery and info
site for the artwork and
workshops of KEITH E. LO BUE
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From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting
Date: 12 Feb 2000 23:01:39 -0500 (EST)



"...the process of fingering my way through endless bins of crap is
the drug that I need.."

Nat sums it up for me. This afternoon I was at the local SA, going through
two stacks on the floor, next to a row of old dresses. About half way
through, I realised that my feet were in the most uncomfortable and
painful position. And yet, I would not, could not, stop until I had gone
through both stacks. It's the thrill of discovery, the chance to find
gold, (or maybe just silver) mixed in with the endless copies of
"Gigi" and "A Star is Born". It's almost like gambling I guess. I know the
chances are good that I'll find almost nothing of value, but I keep
trying, no matter the odds.

For the record, I found a copy of 101 Strings Sugar & Spice, and a Percy
Faith record, Jealosy.

And after all that, the line was so long, I couldn't wait and put them
back in the bins next to a Mitch Miller.


- Bruce Lenkei


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting (was Yesterday's scores)
Date: 13 Feb 2000 03:50:43 EST



In a message dated 2/12/0 7:35:15 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I used to buy my records at Krey's Disc Shop for $2.77 (I bet
>JimmyB did too!)

Its late late...I just came in from a Skintastic night of music..Bloodstone,
New Birth, and The Chantels in Boston (BLOODSTONE AND NEW BIRTH ARE BOTH
MUST SEE's, BOOK THEM IF POSSIBLE), then Seks Bomba (better and tighter than
ever) in Cambridge (with B Cleve's pre-recorded mix playing between sets).
But recalling the early LP purchases: For me, it was Peter's Music in
Lexington, MA where you paid Top Dollar for your records. I recall buying the
LP "Pick Hits of The Radio Good Guys" in 1963. It contained the previous
year's TOP Top-40 hits in compilation style, an unusual format back then.
That cost me 4.98 of hard earned carwash cash. Then it was "Jimmy B learns
how to ride the subway into Boston" where I found my way to Jordan Marsh
Department Store where I bought "Out Of Our Heads" by the Rolling Stones,
Mono, for 2.94 (had the LP until very recently with the price tag still on
it, and at pre-sales tax prices!) and The Beatles Second Album for the same
price. These were my first LP purchases (45's notwithstanding).....JB/lots of
NEW  records to chatter about too.....see y'all next week right here


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Subject: (exotica) Completist Filing
Date: 13 Feb 2000 03:55:51 EST



In a message dated 2/12/0 11:02:24 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I couldn't wait and put them
>back in the bins next to a .........

This is for all the people like me who grab anything they think they MIGHT
buy, then realize the funds don't measure up.  What do YOU do with all the
records you don't buy?? If I'm in a record store where I get fair treatment,
I refile them. But in one where I feel regarded as a schmuck? Into the wrong
bins i put them, no conscience, no pain, no feelings, no nothing!   JB/Bless
Me Father For I have Sinned


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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) A Peek at the SOOP
Date: 13 Feb 2000 11:36:16 +0100


"Keith E. Lo Bue" wrote:

> For all those on the fence about the Moog Soops or just waiting for them to
> arrive, I've posted all of the packaging, track lists and liners here:
>
> http://www.lobue-art.com/soop.html

Absolutely stunning! You're part of the exoticaring too, aren't you? Hope to
find one of these comps in my mailbox one day.

Marco

--
 Marco "Kallie" Kalnenek
+------------------------------------------+
 Record Collector's Heaven
 http://weirdomusic.freeservers.com/
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting
Date: 13 Feb 2000 12:10:36 -0500


At 4:34 PM 2/12/0, Moritz R wrote:
>So, Nat, how'd you call someone who wants to have ALL GOOD records, no
>matter what genre or time? Like me. ...Problem with this kind of
>collecting is, that I tend to sell the records that I don't like
>ANYMORE, and of course later regret it.

Yeah, that's the way I go about collecting too. I'll often buy something I
haven't heard simply to judge it myself, as BJ suggests. If it doesn't ring
my bell, then, whoosh, it's outta here.

Again, the one exception is Nino Rota's music, which I keep no matter what,
no matter how crappy or idiotic or stupid the arrangement. I intend to have
my Rota music cremated with me and the ashes of both scattered on the broad
and rolling Pacific, or some such nonsense.

I'd say the regret of NOT picking up something that speaks to me is worse
than the regret of buying something, selling it then regretting it later,
as you describe, Mo.

And like Nat, I LOVE just digging into a bin and seeing what's there. I
love that sense of discovery, that maiden voyage spinning of a disk all new
to me. My obsession is to hear new stuff rather than to collect everything
by an artist I already know and love. Which means I listen to a lot of
radio and read the LP descriptions and show lists posted here with zealous
delight. Which also means I'm seldom bored by music. Which also means I
love jazz and the improv spirit and going to clubs or shows because music
live is a different experience (altho with this crowd of music nuts and
musicians, I preach to the converted, right?).

Yes, I'll play the old favorites, but often I'll listen or buy cheap simply
for novelty. Are there others who share this passion for the new?

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting/Steroe Action
Date: 13 Feb 2000 12:10:38 -0500


At 7:38 PM 2/12/0, Br. Cleve wrote:

>Stereos, like color TV's, were an expensive luxury item in the 50's/60's,
>and a great many people only had monophonic players (to go with their b&w
>TV's); I know my family did. The mono versions (yes, they do exist on all
>those titles) were sold for a dollar less....

Yes, I recall the joyous day when our family's old hifi radio/turntable
console was replaced by a spiffy new stereo set. My little bro still plays
the stereo console and, you know what? It still sounds good. And my big bro
started buying stereo albums, grumbling about higher prices and the mono
play on 45s.

Which brings up another question: 45 collectors/accumulators, when did
labels start producing 45s in stereo? Was it around the time that FM band
stereo began to replace AM broadcasts as the sound of choice for car audio?


Thanks for the info about RCA's Stereo Action series, Br. Cleve. Do you or
does anyone else know if the hifi versions of Stereo Action disks
considered as collectible or even, weirdly, more desirable, than the stereo
ones?

Thanks again,
Mimi






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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Speaking of Summer Samba...
Date: 12 Feb 2000 19:35:00 +0100


Jack from Cincinnati wrote:

>I have recently purchased the 1999 CD reissue of
>a long time favorite thrift L.P. discovery :
>
>Marcos Valle  "Samba '68 "  Verve 559-516


    that's the one that contains "ckrickets sing for Anamaria",
    my all-time fave bossa song! i think i need that CD re- too.

        Johan

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Charles Blackwell
Date: 12 Feb 2000 19:14:52 +0100


Peter Hipwell wrote:

>IIRC, there were
>only ever a couple of singles; an album, set to be called "Those
>Plucking Strings" was shamefully cancelled.


    i have a tape copy of an album by Charles Blackwell (not "orchestra"):
    Classics with a beat
    LP, Electrola, , SHZE 171 (Germany)

    with ez instro pop versions of classical pieces

        Johan

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Kosinus Label Sale
Date: 12 Feb 2000 19:40:36 +0100


hi-iiiiiiiiiiiiii-ghly recommended, folks, "Good Moog" is unbelievably good
Moog!

        Johan

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Speaking of Summer Samba...
Date: 13 Feb 2000 10:09:46 -0800


>>I have recently purchased the 1999 CD reissue of
>>a long time favorite thrift L.P. discovery :
>>
>>Marcos Valle  "Samba '68 "  Verve 559-516
>
>
>    that's the one that contains "ckrickets sing for Anamaria",
>    my all-time fave bossa song! i think i need that CD re- too.
>
>        Johan
>

To Johan and the others looking for this on CD:  go to Dusty Groove.
They have the CD of Valle's "Samba 68" in stock.  I just ordered my
copy....

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz in the 3rd Reich
Date: 13 Feb 2000 19:59:04 +0100


Mike Horne wrote:

> Howdy,
>     Have these ever come out yet?
>     Mike
> >Universal Music is planning a huge compilation on Jazz in the 3rd Reic=
h,
> >called "Swinging Ballroom Berlin". I propose we adjourn the discussion
> >about this subject until the CDs are out.
> >
> >Mo

Oh... yeah, good you remind me!
What came out so far is a CD called "Swing, Jazz & Sweet From Berlin" -
original historic recordings 1928-1943. Produced by Christian Kellersmann=
,
Cover art: Stefan Kassel.
The liner-notes are very interesting telling the entire story of the musi=
c
culture and Americanism in Germany of that age and setting straight some
misunderstandings as imposed by the recent Hollywood production "Swing Ki=
ds".
And they are in English!
However, if you expect musical surprises and sensations, then you might b=
e
disappointed; it's a documentary that can help the interested musical
archeologist complete his view of the music of the 20th century with a fo=
cus on
a very special age, i.e. Germany before and during the 3rd Reich. Still -=
 some
nice tracks can be heard on this comp. "Wo ist der Mann?" by Marlene Diet=
rich
f.i., and I'm glad the publishers of the CD didn't succumb to the temptat=
ion to
choose all-too-well-known material, but took this rather unknown jewel in=
stead.
Then there's "Geisterspuk" (Ghost spook) by Robert Garden mit seinem Orch=
ester,
which I personally find quite interesting, as it has picturesque elements=
 like
the ones Disney later used in the rides of his theme parks.There are also
exotic pieces: "Corcovado" as performed by Bernard Ett=E9 mit seinem
Tanzorchester and "Tabu" by a Billy Bartolomew mit seinem Tanzorchester, =
which
is not the "Taboo" we all know. James Kok Jazzvirtuosen is the orchestra =
that
sounds the most interesting to me, whereas Teddy Staufer und seine Origin=
al
Teddies is the most famous.
All in all, if you are into early swing at all you will enjoy this CD. I'=
m not
such an expert myself, so I can hardly compare this music to the stuff th=
at was
played in America at the same time. I expect it to be a bit wilder though.

Mo



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Subject: (exotica) Re: Stereo 45's
Date: 13 Feb 2000 14:41:53 EST



In a message dated 2/13/0 12:57:22 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Which brings up another question: 45 collectors/accumulators, when did
>labels start producing 45s in stereo? Was it around the time that FM band
>stereo began to replace AM broadcasts as the sound of choice for car audio?

Just about the same time--I believe the first stereo 45's arrived about '67
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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Free CDs from mp3.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 13 Feb 2000 15:30:02 +0100


for those lucky folks who are in the US and can sign for talk.com services,
you can get a FREE CD of your choice from mp3.com!!!
how does it work?
they are getting sponsors to pay for a cd (you can get a free cd from each
sponsor... right now they only have one sponsor, i.e. talk.com's long
distance service).
you got on an artist's page (say, like www.mp3.com/alessandroni or
www.mp3.com/patrizioihle ;)))) and then you click on "get it free"... and
if you qualify and subscribe to talk.com they will pay for the dam cd you
have just chosen!
:)
(ahem sorry for the shameless plug!! btw this works -I think- with every
DAM CD and for all US residents... so take a look!)

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

"Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief"
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From: M H Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks
Date: 11 Feb 2000 19:11:33 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/10/0 9:58:13 AM, you wrote:
>
> >If "Rapper's Delight" is a "cobbled together" hit, so be it

> it always gets people on the floor enjoying it. Just for good measure I mix
> it right out of Chic's "Good Times." You'd be surprised at how many people
> learn then and there that they are the same song!

Surely not! but then I am always amazed at how little the general public
knows about sampling...
Of course Indeep 'Last Night a Deejay saved my life' fits in rather well
too on the turntables, alongside Rappers' Delight and double copies of
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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Releases (Hazlewood)
Date: 13 Feb 2000 21:50:11 +0100



From Forced Exposure,  http://www.forcedexposure.com. New Releases list


SMELLS LIKE RECORDS:

HAZLEWOOD, LEE: 13 CD (SLR 040 CD). "Newly minted from
a wave of success with Nancy Sinatra, Lee Hazlewood began
traveling abroad, landing in Sweden in 1970, where he met director
Tobj=F6rn Axelman. The two embarked upon a Cowboy In Sweden,
and continuing through Smoke and A House Safe For Tigers. The
Swedish Viking label also issued two very rare but strong Hazlewood
solo albums. Whereas Requiem For An Almost Lady, released in
1971, is an aching meditation on love lost (with some harrowing
narration), 13, from the following year, is a horn-laden R'n'B-tinged
departure from the Hazlewood formula that succeeds on the strength
of its exuberantly dazed mania. Of all the Hazlewood albums coveted
by collectors who seem to own every object ever made by anyone, this
one really fills their drool buckets. During this period, Hazlewood
emerged as a singer and performer inseparable from his writing and
production. After hearing these albums, but especially 13, one gets the
feeling that Lee is perhaps the best interpreter of his own ideas, and
without a doubt the albums benefit from everything he had developed
up to that point: a singular signature sound synthesizing swinging
cowboy shanties, the rhythmic heat of rockabilly, and soaring symphonic
pop, punctuated by dark, poetic lyrics at once esoteric, witty and
honest."  $15.00





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From: Paul <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks
Date: 13 Feb 2000 13:53:47 -0800



> Of course Indeep 'Last Night a Deejay saved my life' fits in rather well...

given that i've long ago completed my Indeep collection, i feel safe in
volunteering that 'their' records were genius

the 12" of Deejay Saved My Life with the 'Toilet Flushing' breakdown
continues to amuse and entertain friends and foes alike, of mine !

their first album too is rock solid sporting hella amusing lyrics and
guilty post deesco deesco fun.

that album probably cost the licorice pizza records store i worked at
then, thousands of dollars given the profuse in-store play i accored it !!

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Rota tear
Date: 13 Feb 2000 16:58:49 -0500


Oh, DJbatman, you are a tease...
>ever heard of a cd called "Felliniana" released here in Italy in early 90's
>consisting of techno/dance arrangments, with a latin feel, of soundtracks
>from Fellini movies (mostly by Rota)?
>Some bits are really crappy but I still believe it's fun. ;)

Gratzi, gratzi...No, I've not heard it, but I must have it. And yes, Rota
scored most of Fellini's films. From the IMDb:
>He wrote all of the movie scores for Fellini's films from Lo Sceicco
>bianco,[The White Sheik]  (1951) in 1952 to Prova d'orchestra (1979) in
>1979. Other directors include Renato Castellani, Luchino Visconti, Franco
>Zeffirelli, Mario Monicelli, Francis Coppola (Oscar for best original
>score for Godfather: Part II, The (1974) ), King Vidor, Ren=E9 Cl=E9ment,
>Edward Dmytryk and Eduardo de Filippo,  He also composed the music for
>many theatre productions by Visconti, Zefirelli and de Filippo.

Can you or any of the other Italian exoticats supply some tips on how I
could track "Felliniana" down?

And while I'm on a Rota tear, does anyone know if these is/was an OST for
Nights of Cabiria/Le Notti di Cabiria, (1957)? I get the impression the
title track was a hit in Europe. The OST is not available on CAM, which
seems to have cornered the Rota-for-Fellini-OST market. I suspect a Cabiria
record WAS cut by a label other than CAM. Yup, I've asked before, but since
we have several new members here, maybe they'll know something. Thanks,
Mimi




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Subject: O/T Re: (exotica) Good-Lookin' Food That Stanks
Date: 13 Feb 2000 22:47:09 +0000


Paul wrote:
>
> given that i've long ago completed my Indeep collection, i feel safe in
> volunteering that 'their' records were genius

I always presumed they were just a one hit wonder...

> their first album too is rock solid sporting hella amusing lyrics and
> guilty post deesco deesco fun.

Another amusing track from the same vintage is The Evasions (?) Wikka
Rap, which has someone intoning instructions to the crowd (a la James
Brown) in a stuck up English accent.


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Subject: (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 13 Feb 2000 22:52:32 +0000


I picked up The Joe Harriott and John Mayer Double Quintet - Indo Jazz
Fusions 1 and 2 (on one CD) (Polygram/Redial), and am enjoying it,
although the first minute or two was a little shaky it develops very
nicely. Shake Keane (a Phase 4 regular IIRC) is part of the group.

Anyone got any recommendations for more East/West crossover albums?


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Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 13 Feb 2000 23:06:55 -0000


M H Jemmeson wrote:

> Anyone got any recommendations for more East/West crossover albums?

Any of the albums featured on the "California Dreamin - Jazz
Exotica" CD (on Impulse) would fit the bill (Tom Scott, Bill
Plummer, Emil Richards et al).


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Subject: (exotica) waste time with tv
Date: 13 Feb 2000 18:56:29 -0500


Numerous list-esque items on US TV this week (eastern times)...

Well, not very relevant, but for starters, Gamera movies on AMC, every
morning at 6:00am. Saturday morning, same time, a 90s Godzilla movie.

Biography: Ella Fitzgerald
A&E - Monday night, 8:00pm, Midnight

A Personal Journey With Martin Scorsese
Scorsese on movie history.
3 parts, 8:00pm & Midnight, Monday through Wednesday nights, TCM.

Rapa Nui (1994)
One more airing.
TNT - Late Monday, 2:00am

Bravo's Blue Note Records documentary, this time in separate parts, airing
at 11:00am, Tuesday and Wednesday mornings.

Biography: Nat King Cole
A&E - Tuesday night, 8:00pm, Midnight

She (1935)
30s movie exotica.
AMC - Wednesday morning, 9:00am

How To Commit Marriage (1969)
Hope vs. Gleason comedy.
Movie equivalent of Now Sound records.
AMC - Wednesday morning, 10:35am

Biography: Sidney Poitier
A&E - Wednesday night, 8:00pm, Midnight

Yellow Submarine (1968)
Fire away, Blue Meanies.
VH1 - Wednesday night, 8:00pm
Thursday morning, 11:00am

Scared Stiff (1953)
Carmen Miranda. Well mostly Martin & Lewis, to be honest.
AMC - Thursday night, 6:00pm

Biography: Dorothy Dandridge
A&E - Thursday night, 8:00pm, Midnight

The Great Train Robbery (1903)
It's very old. Sorry, that's my only justification.
TCM - Thursday night, 8:00pm

Profiles: Petula Clarke
Bravo - Thursday night, 10:30pm, 3:00am

Black Sunday (1961)
Directed by Mario Bava. Should be the AIP cut, with (I believe) score by
Les B.
AMC - Friday morning, 7:35am

Biography: Quincy Jones
A&E - Friday night, 8:00pm, Midnight

Mad Monster Party (1967)
Stop-motion animation 60s monster mania.
AMC - Friday night, 10:30pm, 2:00am

I Walked With A Zombie (1943)
Zombies, voodoo, calypso, atmosphere galore.
TCM - Late Friday, 3:30am

Profiles: William Shatner
All about his recording career? Probably not, unfortunately.
Bravo - Saturday afternoon, 4:00pm

The Swinger (1966)
Ann-Margret. More cinematic Now Sound.
AMC - Saturday night, 10:00pm, 4:00am

Cat Ballou (1965)
Not sure why I'm throwing this in. Write your own reason.
TCM - Saturday night, 10:30pm

The Italian Job (1969)
A rare airing.
Speedvision - Saturday night, 11:00pm, 3:00am
Sunday afternoon, Noon



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Subject: (exotica) Completist Manifesto
Date: 13 Feb 2000 16:50:34 -0800


I have a theory on music (which probably applies to most creative
works)... 90% of everything is crap. But there are certain artists
whose work stands out from the pack. Even their bad stuff is better
than other artists' good stuff.

The only artist in the "exotica" realm that I would put in that
category would be Prez Prado. Others I feel that way about are Fats
Waller, Cab Calloway, Louis Armstrong, Dinah Washington, Bob Wills &
His Texas Playboys, Tchaikovsky, Louis Jordan, Hank Thompson and
his Brazos Valley Boys, Nat King Cole, The Beatles, Richard Wagner,
Django Reinhardt, Shorty Rogers, Bobby Darin, Frank Zappa, Charles
Ives, Hank Williams, The Residents and Maurice Ravel. Other artists
that are very important to me, but only in certain parts of their
career... Billie Holiday, Frank Sinatra, and Elvis Presley.

I buy records for the music though. Even if I am a completist on
a particular artist, I don't care for alternate covers of the
same record, a gazillion virtually identical alternate takes, or
unfinished or muffed takes. Some of the box sets irritate me by
mechanically presenting the music chronologically, instead of
programming it into listenable chunks.

That's my theory and I'm stickin' with it!

See ya
Steve



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Subject: (exotica) Collectivism and the Moog Monkey
Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:18:37 +1100


Funny that the whole collecting/accumulating debate should be raging whilst
I'm laboring over putting my precious moog comps up on the website!  Really
makes me think over what got me into it in the first place...

In 1984 I was looking thru an old record store (CD's had just come out 2
years earlier, and the vinyl cast-off's were starting to appear), and I
casually picked up a record called "The In Sound from Way Out."  The killer
name was enough to plunk my 50 cents(!) down and take it home, along with
other various nondescript lp's.  My surprise in hearing how funny and how
inventive this stuff was is still a vivid memory.  I remember telling my
buddy ,"we'll KNOW CD's are finally here to stay when this record makes it
out on CD!!" and we laughed and laughed.  A year later I happened across it
on CD, my eyes a-poppin'!   But for some reason I never sought anything else
in this genre out until over ten years later.

My interests and habits really glump the virtues/vices of collecting AND
accumulation.  I do 'carry a list' of moog lp's, like Nat mentioned a
collector would.  I do buy the Electric Moog Orchestra's 'Star Wars
soundtrack, not because I think it would be a good listen, but to add it to
the collection...

HOWEVER, I do things that a collector would banish me for:  I pass on some
moog items if they don't have something that makes me 'want' them; I thin
the collection often and get rid of ones I don't particularly enjoy (even
rare ones, thereby dashing my 'world's largest moog collection'
aspirations).

But I have never / will never walk into a record store and buy a huge stack
of records just to have 'em.  I've got to see something in them that truly
moves me to grab it, then interesting enough to make it to the check-out.
Accumulators, I would think, come home often with 10+ records every day or
week.  That would drive me nuts.

And all this is just under my habits for one interest...add twenty others to
the hobby pile, and I find I've GOT to be discerning, if for no other reason
than storage!  My wife is a minimalist, and would prefer to live in Zen
purity, nothing on the walls, nothing on the stereo, nothing in the head.
We balance each other beautifully!  I've learned the value of having less,
and that smaller amount be of high priority rather than volume=better.

But I'm still a junk-accumulator (any of you who haven't seen my website,
now might be the appropriate time!).  We all got our cross to bear!

Seeya friends,

Keith

PS: Talking about great cheap vinyl stores, everyone on this list needs to
road-trip out Jerry's Records in Pittsburgh: 2 MILLION lp's, almost every
one at $3. each!  45's are $1 to $2, 78's $1.  Beat that with a stick, I
dare ya!  Tell him Keith sentya.

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Subject: (exotica) Grandmaster Flash
Date: 13 Feb 2000 23:18:37 -0500


I realize this isn't completely related but with all this talk of
Grandmaster Flash on the list lately, I've been sitting on a
particular piece of music for almost 20 years and never figured out
what it was, except that it is (or at least the lyrics within say it is)
made by Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five. There were so
many iterations of this group and I rememeber much of this music
coming out in generic 12" Sugarhill sleeves that I was never able to
identify the song or find the original disc.

My recording is not all that great and is a third generation from the
radio, circa 1979.  I'm hoping one of you experts on him can help. I
noticed a few CD reissues lately so I would consider picking up a
proper recording if I could figure out its identity.

The first 3 lines go sonmething like this:

It's a ?moving and grooving? crew
You gotta see to believe
We're 1 2 3 4 5 MC!

It goes on to later mention riding in a Mercedes and a Cadillac and
then "take the Train".  I can always send a tape along. If you can
solve this one I have whole tapes of mystery music of the new wave
era I could never identify! And this is one era I know very well...

Thanks,


Brian Karasick
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McGill University
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Subject: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 13 Feb 2000 23:19:06 -0500


Nat wrote:

> Accumulators and collectors look for records differently. Collectors, in
> general, don't go to thrift stores.  They already have the basic stuff you
> can get there and even though it may be true that you never know what
> you'll find there, they're sure enough they won't find anything that it's
> deemed not worth their time.
Now you have me confused.  I don't go to thrift stores partly
because I find them depressing places and partly as you say, I
don't expect to find much, given the limited time I have to spend
looking. But then I'm in no way a completist either so I'm not sure I
fit into your generic collector standard.

> I like finding stuff I didn't know existed, taking it home and discovering
> what it is.
> Collectors generally know what's out there before they leave their house.
> They're not driven by surprise and discovery like we are.
If this holds I definitely have two personalities and in some ways
this may be the case.  The old experimental/wave records I want
are documented, few new things added, and I scan specific
sources for what I want with less and less finds each year. These
tend to be label or artist specific. On the other hand, we keep a
one page list of new things, not necessarily a want list, but only as
a reminder so we won't forget completely something we heard. But
then I always enjoy exploring and when I walk into most stores, I
go straight for the bizarro/exotica section with no pre-conceptions.
Of course I consider it a privilege having stores where the owners
have an amazing knack for buying just the right things. I know I
won't find these things in the thrift stores because if they were
there, these guys will have got to them first!

I will say that having the radio show has had a huge impact on how
and what we acquire. What is most enjoyable to us about hosting
the show is being able to play new things, and most important,
things that don't otherwise get exposure. Interestingly enough, we
had a record number of inquiries today about the breakbeat show!

> At this very moment, I'd like to go to a thrift store.  Not because I hope
> I'll find that elusive Enoch Light record I need to help complete my set
> but because the process of fingering my way through endless bins of crap is
> the drug that I need.
I must admit I often have the exact urge to visit a record store and worse yet,
it isn't the same if I don't come back with something, so in many ways we're
not all that far apart!


Brian Karasick
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McGill University
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Grandmaster Flash
Date: 13 Feb 2000 20:56:34 -0800



> It's a ?moving and grooving? crew
> You gotta see to believe
> We're 1 2 3 4 5 MC!
>
> It goes on to later mention riding in a Mercedes and a Cadillac and
> then "take the Train".  I can always send a tape along. If you can

---

that is "Super Rapping Theme" on ENJOY Records

don't know if they had more than one 12" on that label
or who was behind it - it was kind of a pre-cusor to
Rappers' Delight     some of the verse are the same but
its a lot rawer overall

 the full version must run close to 10 mins  and there
is an instrumental on the back of same

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Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 02/14/00
Date: 13 Feb 2000 21:10:52 -0800


Week of 02/14/00

The Friendly Persuasion Show

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna
Internet Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week
to hear:

Art Linkletter - We Love You, Call Collect
William Shatner - Mr Tambourine Man
Mel Henke - The Twisters
Jean-Jacques Perrey - Crazy Crow and Daffyduck
Dean Elliott & His Big Band - Lonesome Road
Pat Reader - Cha-Cha On The Moon
Yma Sumac - Taki Rari
George Liberace Orchestra - George Liberace Mambo
National Lampoon - My Bod Is For God
Apollo 100 - Popcorn
The Kids of Widney High - Stand Up and Dance
Raymond & Scum - (Nobody Loves The) Comedy Band
Ed "Moose" Savage and his Litany of Complaints - Iceburg Lettuce
Wooshie Spakamoto - Lady
The Shaggs - Philosophy of the World
Lord Sitar - I Can See For Miles
Jean-Jacques Perrey - Indicatif Spatial
Les Baxter - Ruby
Leonard Nimoy - Highly Illogical
Frank Pourcel - Casino Royale
Lord Sitar - Black is Black
Art Linkletter - We Love You, Call Collect



Thanks for listening,

Otis

Mr. Otis F-Odder
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Subject: (exotica) Collecting
Date: 14 Feb 2000 00:43:40 EST


One of my favorite quotes:

"A Collector must be mad, because a collection is something no one needs."

- Gerard Levy

A sentiment that sometimes comes to mind when I am on my knees in a thrift
store, rummaging through the bins.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Collecting
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:51:06 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> One of my favorite quotes:
>
> "A Collector must be mad, because a collection is something no one needs."

Sounds chique, but of course it's not true. I see collections as archives. The
better sorted they are, the more value they have. A good archive can be a
source of incredible cashflow, and I would call the owner smart, not mad.

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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 14 Feb 2000 07:04:34 -0500


Will someone on the list remind me if i've told the R. Crumb story about
accumulators on this list yet (don'/t want to repeat myself)...

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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FLY ME TO THE MOON
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:27:51 +0100




"I would like to get into the Guinness Book as the first Latin
American artist to play on the moon. It's easy to get a rocket
now."

-- Latin jazzman Tito Puente, sharing his lunar ambitions in the
Toronto Sun.



Is he going to fight this out with Lucia Pamela? Anyway, anyone
acquainted enough with Moon-physics to understand what Tito would
sound like? Not very up tempo, this Moon salsa, I would guess.

Ton


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) waste time with tv
Date: 14 Feb 2000 08:32:29 -0500


m.ace posteth:
>A Personal Journey With Martin Scorsese
>Scorsese on movie history.
>3 parts, 8:00pm & Midnight, Monday through Wednesday nights, TCM.

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Date: 14 Feb 2000 09:34:17 -0500


>A Personal Journey With Martin Scorsese
>Scorsese on movie history.
>3 parts, 8:00pm & Midnight, Monday through Wednesday nights, TCM.

>Superior film clips. Will keep you going to the video shop for >months. Mimi


But TCM is showing related movies after the Scorsese doc so you won't need as many trips.  (Caveat:  I'm a TCM freelancer.)  & the Scorsese doc on Italian cinema is due later this year.

LT

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist Manifesto
Date: 14 Feb 2000 06:37:53 PST


>
>I have a theory on music (which probably applies to most creative
>works)... 90% of everything is crap. But there are certain artists
>whose work stands out from the pack. Even their bad stuff is better
>than other artists' good stuff.

the f.r. leavis of the exotica list...

all the best
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kahunas!
Date: 14 Feb 2000 06:41:53 -0800 (PST)


Well, folks, the big day is finally here as we
announce the winners of the First Annual Kahuna
Awards!

First, let me say that Kevin C has done a fantastic
job at putting together a nifty website with all the
Kahuna Data, including a list of nominees and winners
for each category, a complete listing of original
nominees, category descriptions and cute little tiki
award pictures for nominees or winners to stick on
their own pages.

The site for the 2000 Kahuna Awards is here:
http://www.kevdo.com/exotica/kahuna/

Now, the list:
Drum roll please......

Best act (artist or group):
The Metropole Orchestra, featuring the Beau Hunks
Saxtette

Best new album:
Esquivel - See It In Sound

Best re-release (legitimate or bootleg):
Shaggs - Philosophy of the World

Best retrospective - single artist/act:
Esther Nelson, Bruce Haack & Dimension 5 - Listen
Compute Rock Home

Best compilation - various artists:
Best of Moog: Electronic Pop Hits from the 60's & 70's


Best box set - single or multiple artists:
Dr. Samuel J Hoffman and Harry Revel - Basta Theremin
Box

Best soundtrack (new or re-release):
Bob Crewe - Barbarella

Best new act (artist or group):
Astroslut

Big Kahuna Achievement Award:
Martin Denny

Golden Bamboo Platter:
Martin Denny - Exotica

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A few notes:
I think it's nice that Basta's fine work was
recognized, so Kudos to them.

Congrats to our own Astroslut for taking the New Act
category.

Martin and Les slugged it out for a while in the Big
Kahuna and Bamboo Platter awards, going neck and neck
until the final six or seven ballots when suddenly
Denny jumped ahead.

Similarly Hell's Belles was getting ready to take the
soundtrack reissue when suddenly Barbarella ran him
over and took the lead.

I also find it a bizarre thing, possibly due to the
nature of nominations and voting, that the Shaggs of
all groups took the reissue category.

Anyway, thanks all for playing, and we'll see how the
Kahunas play out next year!


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From: Al Hoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) used vinyl battlefield
Date: 14 Feb 2000 09:54:35 -0500


> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:18:37 +1100
> From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>

> PS: Talking about great cheap vinyl stores, everyone on this list needs to
> road-trip out Jerry's Records in Pittsburgh: 2 MILLION lp's, almost every
> one at $3. each!  45's are $1 to $2, 78's $1.  Beat that with a stick, I
> dare ya!  Tell him Keith sentya.

get outta my town!! Stay away, Pittsburgh, bad, smelly, lousy football
team. Beware!

Jerry's...um...they...uh...closed down yesterday. Yeah, that's right.

I can top the lister's discomfort-while-record-shopping-but-won't-quit
tale. Last year, I was in a big noisy crowded thrift in Chicago, eagerly
flipping through the records, finding some littl-ish nuggets, when I
realized the guy standing right next to me was jerkeing off. He was also
right in front of the one rack I hadn't checked.  I debated what to do -
I didn't appear to be the object of his interest, and there *were* some
good records in there, maybe more, so I asked him to move over. Which he
did, quite politely, though he didn't stop masturbating. When I told my
friends about it later, they were horrified, but I shrugged. "I got some
good records."

Al

P.S. OK, jerry's is still open, but not on Monday and Tuesday.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:09:13 EST


ckafka writes:

<< Will someone on the list remind me if i've told the R. Crumb story about
 accumulators on this list yet (don'/t want to repeat myself)... >>

Do tell!

I assume everyone has seen the incredible documentary "Crumb" (if you
haven't, you should).  He collects 78s.  Or is he an accumulator?

I often see his brother Maxon on the downtown streets of San Francisco,
flossing his nasal passages with surgical tubing and ready to accept your
spare change.

I wish I could muster up the words to have a conversation with him, but I
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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) crumb and accumulators
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:56:30 -0500


The short story:

Crumb is in my studio, which is an insane shambles, records piled
everywhere, in drawers, flat, under things, totally unfiled. about
25,000 records at the time, and about 6,000 or so 78s. Crumb spends a
few hours going through every last record for trade. All during this
time there is some chatting about music, records, etc., but mostly he is
mumbling and pissed off - insists on NOT calling me kafka or citizen or
whatever everyone else calls me, but using my very jewish last name, as
in "Shulberg, you're NOT a collector, you're an accumulator..." like 100
times in several hours. I mean, he's in a fairly good humor, of course
annoyed when he finds something he wants and i say 'nope, it's a keeper
for me.'  finally he leaves with 3 records (all i remember is a 12"
green label greek). At this time, unknown to most anyone but a very few,
he's already started to collect ethnic (and this is at least 13 years
ago). The deal was a trade for something 'art...' i guess he thought i
wanted some major piece, and i knew that all i really wanted was a
doodle and a 'thanks for the records kafka' note. anyway, 2 years later,
i see him again, he says, 'ah, shulberg, you accumulator, those records
were worthless, i threw them away, you're getting nothing." well, i did
get back at him a little, but he basically pulled one on me. duh. see
the movie for a fairly accurate glimpse of this complex and messed up
guy. I mean, i'll still talk to him if i see him, but i don't trust him
except for an on the spot deal. live and learn.

ck

PS i also told him that we accumulators are responsible for saving and
preserving a lot of the rarest material which slips between the edges of
the collectors world...


--
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NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
& WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) FLY ME TO THE MOON
Date: 14 Feb 2000 17:08:25 +0100




Ton Rueckert wrote:

> "I would like to get into the Guinness Book as the first Latin
> American artist to play on the moon. It's easy to get a rocket
> now."
>
> -- Latin jazzman Tito Puente, sharing his lunar ambitions in the
> Toronto Sun.
>
> Is he going to fight this out with Lucia Pamela? Anyway, anyone
> acquainted enough with Moon-physics to understand what Tito would
> sound like? Not very up tempo, this Moon salsa, I would guess.
>

As long as there's no room with an artificial atmosphere on the moon he would
have to play electronic instruments. Otherwise you would hear... nothing.

Mo

PS: Must be an obsession of a certain generation, this desire to go into
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Collecting
Date: 14 Feb 2000 09:02:18 -0800


>> One of my favorite quotes:
>>
>> "A Collector must be mad, because a collection is something no one needs."
>
>Sounds chique, but of course it's not true.

A collection may be something that no one needs in order to live, but man
has been a gatherer (and appreciator) of material things ever since his
early days.  Look how some people killed themselves in order to get just
a small bit of precious metal during the gold rush; the gold in turn
brought them money and the money in turn bought them the things they
wanted to have.

>I see collections as archives.
>The
>better sorted they are, the more value they have. A good archive can be a
>source of incredible cashflow, and I would call the owner smart, not mad.

Many of the same critics also forget that good archives (collections) are
what museums and historical societies are made of!  We just collect
things of a different nature, that's all, but I'm quite sure that there
are commercial places in the world that collect everything certain
musical artists have done.  I see us as a mere offshoot of these same
people (albeit on a smaller scale).

While it is true that you can financially benefit from a collection if
you wind up in dire straits someday, I would venture a guess that that's
definitely not the reason all of us have our LP & CD collections.  We
have them because we truly love the artist(s) and their style(s), and
because we can appreciate the recordings (a bit) more than the average
person!

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography

New items added since 2/10:
- Interview with Bobby Rosengarden (Page 6)
- 'Brazilian Mood' (red cover) LP (Page 2)
- How Walter Met Isaurinha (Page 6)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) used vinyl battlefield
Date: 14 Feb 2000 09:02:20 -0800


>> PS: Talking about great cheap vinyl stores, everyone on this list needs to
>> road-trip out Jerry's Records in Pittsburgh: 2 MILLION lp's, almost every
>> one at $3. each!  45's are $1 to $2, 78's $1.  Beat that with a stick, I
>> dare ya!  Tell him Keith sentya.
>
>get outta my town!! Stay away, Pittsburgh, bad, smelly, lousy football
>team. Beware!
>
>Jerry's...um...they...uh...closed down yesterday. Yeah, that's right.

You really have nothing to fear as I couldn't possibly drive the almost
3,000 miles in the middle of winter to get there (maybe later on in the
year, though!!!)...

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography

New items added since 2/10:
- Interview with Bobby Rosengarden (Page 6)
- 'Brazilian Mood' LP (red cover) (Page 2)
- How Walter Met Isaurinha (Page 6)

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Subject: (exotica) disgusting thrift store tales!
Date: 14 Feb 2000 12:09:14 -0500 (EST)



> I can top the lister's discomfort-while-record-shopping-but-won't-quit
> tale. Last year, I was in a big noisy crowded thrift in Chicago, eagerly
> flipping through the records, finding some littl-ish nuggets, when I
> realized the guy standing right next to me was jerkeing off.

Oh
my
God.


Well, I've never had anything like *that* happen to me, but I have noticed
that the downside to thrifts and used record stores is the alarming
number of other people also looking through the bins who constantly
talk and mutter to themselves. my secret fear is that someday
I'll do the same thing.


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Subject: (exotica) album covers on the www
Date: 14 Feb 2000 08:31:23 -0800 (PST)


This site was just posted by someone to another list I'm on and I thought it
shoud also go to the exotica list.   Nice scans of album covers.

http://www.showandtellmusic.com/pages/main.html

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Subject: (exotica) LuxuriaMusic
Date: 14 Feb 2000 12:18:23 -0500


Is today the official opening of http://www.luxuriamusic.com ?

Michael, Br. C., The M. : tell us what's in store!

-Lou
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Subject: hi, i'm new   +   (exotica) used vinyl battlefield
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:17:01 -0800


hi.

my names will, and i run the graphically challenged website :
showandtellmusic.com. http://showandtellmusic.com/
been lurkin on your-guys'es list for a while now and i have to
say, this is the funniest thing yet :

<I can top the lister's discomfort-while-record-shopping-but-won't-quit
<tale. Last year, I was in a big noisy crowded thrift in Chicago, eagerly
<flipping through the records, finding some littl-ish nuggets, when I
<realized the guy standing right next to me was jerkeing off. He was also
<right in front of the one rack I hadn't checked.  I debated what to do -
<I didn't appear to be the object of his interest, and there *were* some
<good records in there, maybe more, so I asked him to move over. Which he
<did, quite politely, though he didn't stop masturbating. When I told my
<friends about it later, they were horrified, but I shrugged. "I got some
<good records."
<
<Al


al, you are truly hardcore.

anyway, showandtell is a (totally) homemade album cover art gallery
that somehow looks a little ...different on everybodys computer than mine
(i'll figure out the graphical stuff later). you guys will be familiar with
a lot of the albums in there, but hopefully theres a few you havent run across
yet. each lp is written up (kinda) for content so hopefully i can turn you onto
one or two recordings at least.

this site is gonna be totally revamped sometime in the next month or two.
the individual categories will be dropped, a bunch of the more played out
covers
will be dropped, and a whole gigantic gangload of new ones will be added,
so stay
tuned.

See ya'.

.WILL













we really dont have shit for good used cheap record stores here in the
bay area which is mostly why im always at thrift shops. my favorite one is
run by this guy bob, who moonlights as a karaoke rockstar in the suburbs
and plays al his own recordings on the thrift shop loudspeaker. he's really
not very good but as soon as i realized it was him singing, my respect for him
went up several notches.





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Subject: (exotica) [obits] too too many/Jay Hawkins,George Jackson,Maude Flanders,Charles Schulz,Jim Varney,Lord Kitchener,Roger Vadim
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:13:50 -0500


                            *Jay Hawkins
    PARIS (AP) -- Screamin' Jay Hawkins, the larger-than-life
American blues singer and pianist who shocked the music world with
his crazed shrieking and bizarre stage antics, died Saturday. He
was 70.
    Hawkins, from Cleveland, was best known for his song ``I Put a
Spell On You,'' which he recorded on the Okeh label in 1956 and
which helped win him cult status in the United States, Europe and
Japan. He planned the tune as a ballad, but after a night of heavy
drinking he took another crack -- screaming, yelling and groaning --
and never looked back.
    Some of his groans had to be edited out so that ``I Put a Spell
On You'' could be played on the radio. Hawkins once said the song,
written to woo back a girlfriend, was at first banned by some radio
stations because it supposedly sounded cannibalistic.
    Hawkins went on to use the same demented style again and again.
An outrageous performer, he used bizarre stage props, often
emerging out of coffins during shows. He would wield rubber snakes
and fake tarantulas and wear a boar's tooth around his neck or a
bone clipped to his nose.
    Hawkins also acted in the 1989 Jim Jarmusch film ``Mystery
Train.''
   PARIS, Feb 12 (AFP) - Screamin' Jay Hawkins, a veteran American
blues singer and pianist, died Saturday in Paris at the age of 70
from haemorrhaging after an operation, his agent Viviane Sicnasi
told AFP.
   The musician, whose real name was Jalacy Hawkins, died in a
clinic in the Neuilly suburb of Paris, where he had undergone an
operation earlier in the week on an obstructed bowel.
   The black artist had settled in the Paris suburb of
Levallois-Perret in later life with a wife of Cameroonian origin
after complaining of "bigots" in his home country.
   His best-known song was "I Put a Spell On You," released in
1956, and he became known to younger audiences as an actor in the
films of cult director Jim Jarmusch.
   Hawkins, born on July 18, 1929 in Cleveland, Ohio, was abandoned
by his mother aged only 18 months.
   Adopted by native Americans, he began playing the piano from a
young age and became a talented amateur boxer, winning the 1947
Golden Gloves amateur championship, according to the singer's
official website.
   He joined the army aged 16, fought in World War II, and began
playing piano in nightclubs in the 1950s while on leave from his
unit.
   On leaving the army he worked first as a bodyguard for the
singer Tiny Grimes, before joining Fats Domino's famous band. Their
colloboration did not last long, however, and he was eventually
fired for insisting on wearing a gold and leopardskin outfit and
turban, his website recounts.
   "I Put a Spell On You" was composed, he said, during a drunken
binge in Phildelphia after his then girlfriend left him. He claimed
to have picked up his stage name while he was touring the United
States to perform it.
   "I went to a place called Nitro, West Virginia. There was a big,
big huge fat lady at the bar. She was downing scotch and Jack
Daniel's at the time and whenever she looked up at me she shouted
'Scream, baby, scream'," he would later recall.
   "I Put a Spell on You" went on to become a worldwide success and
it has since been re-recorded by artists including Nina Simone, The
Animals, Creedence Clearwater Revival and The Who.
   Hawkins' flamboyant stage persona -- he sang "I Put a Spell On
You" in a coffin brandishing a voodoo totem and often appeared with
a bone in his nose -- became as famous as his agressive singing
style.
   He performed another of his hits, "Constipation Blues," with
appropriate sound effects.
   The 1960s took him to Hawaii where he began an artistic
partnership with the singer Shoutin' Pat Newborn, with whom he
recorded some provocative and introspective songs. Their
collaboration ended, however when she knifed him in a jealous rage.
   Despite an enforced break from touring after being badly burned
by one of his flaming props, Hawkins continued to perform in the
1990s, opening for the Rolling Stones in Madison Square Garden in
1980, and releasing two albums in 1991.
   On a tour in Japan he astonished blues fans by singing in
Japanese, and wowed cinema audiences with a talent for acting,
brought out notably in the films of Jim Jarmusch, including "Mystery
Train" in 1989 and "Stranger Than Paradise".

NYTimes obit: http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-j-hawkins.html
http://elvispelvis.com/screaminjayhawkins.htm
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=11:00:14|AM&p=amg&sql=B85200
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                          *George Jackson
    NEW YORK (AP) -- George Jackson, a former president of Motown
Records who produced the movies of some of Hollywood's leading
black actors, died Thursday of a stroke. He was 42.
    Jackson co-produced the films ``A Thin Line Between Love and
Hate'' starring Martin Lawrence, ``New Jack City'' with Wesley
Snipes and ``Krush Groove'' starring Blair Underwood.
    Other films included ``Jason's Lyric'' and the second and third
installments of the ``House Party'' series featuring the hip-hop
duo Kid N' Play.
    He and Doug McHenry founded Elephant Walk Entertainment.
    Jackson also co-produced UPN's ``Malcolm & Eddie'' comedy under
the Elephant Walk banner.
    Jackson's most recent effort was creating Urban Box Office
Network, described as a media company for the ``urban mindset.''
UBO will establish a media lab in Harlem to honor Jackson, McHenry
said.
    A Harvard University graduate, Jackson became president and
chief executive of Motown in 1997. He oversaw several acts,
including the group 98 Degrees and the Temptations.
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                          *Charles Schulz
    SANTA ROSA, Calif. (AP) -- ``Peanuts'' creator Charles Schulz
died Saturday following a battle with cancer, just as the last
original cartoon of his half-century career was being published in
newspapers worldwide. He was 77.
    Schulz was diagnosed with colon cancer in November.
    The famous strip -- with its gentle humor spiked with a
child's-eye view of human foibles -- had one particularly endearing
trait: constancy.
    For five decades, the long-suffering Charlie Brown faced
misfortune with a mild, ``Good grief!'' Tart-tongued Lucy handed
out advice at a nickel a pop. And Snoopy, Charlie Brown's
wise-but-weird beagle, still took the occasional flight of fancy
back to the skies of World War I and his rivalry with the Red
Baron.
    The strip was an intensely personal effort for Schulz. He had
had a clause in his contract dictating the strip had to end with
his death -- no one could imitate it.
    While battling cancer, he opted to retire it, saying he wanted
to focus on his health and family without the worry of a daily
deadline.
    His last daily comic ran in early January, and the final
farewell strip appeared in newspapers Sunday. Old versions of the
strip will continue to be published.
    The last strip showed Snoopy at his typewriter and other Peanuts
regulars along with a ``Dear Friends'' letter thanking his readers
for their support.
NYTimes obit: http://www.nytimes.com/library/arts/021400obit-c-schulz.html
http://www.tcj.com/messboard/ubbcgi/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Announcements&number=1&DaysPrune=20&LastLogin=
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                            *Jim Varney
    WHITE HOUSE, Tenn. (AP) -- Jim Varney, the rubbernecked comic who
portrayed his rube character ``Ernest'' from hundreds of television
commercials to a series of hit movies, died Thursday at his home.
He was 50.
    Varney died of lung cancer, said his attorney Hoot Gibson.
    Varney became a cult figure in the 1980s in a series of regional
commercials, portraying Ernest P. Worrell, a now-it-all good ol'
boy whose best-known phrase was ``KnowhutImean?'' and who addressed
a character known as ``Vern.''
    In the commercials, he got his fingers slammed in a house
window, fell off a ladder and got electrically shocked fooling with
a broken TV set. He plugged a variety of sponsors, including dairy
products, car dealerships, pizza and radio stations.
    ``Ernest is a neighbor or relative that we've all had at one
time,'' he once said. ``He's abrasive, but he doesn't mean to be.
He gets excited and ends up standing on your toes. I try to make
him clownish and I don't want him too low key; and he's physically
funny.''
    ``It's been my biggest sounding board. I've grown to know him
well.''
    Between 1987 and 1990, he was in four ``Ernest'' movies for
Disney. Five more Ernest films were released independently, mainly
for the video and television markets.
    Varney also was the voice of Slinky Dog in ``Toy Story'' and Toy
Story II.''
    His movie credits included ``Ernest Goes to Camp''; ``Ernest
Rides Again''; ``Ernest Saves Christmas''; ``Ernest Goes to Jail'';
``Ernest Scared Stupid''; ``Ernest Goes to School''; ''100 Proof,''
an independent film; ``The Beverly Hillbillies'' (as Jed Clampett);
and ``Treehouse Hostage.''
    His TV credits included ``Hey Vern, It's Ernest,'' ``Roseanne,''
``The Simpsons,'' ``The Rousters,'' ``Alice,'' ``Operation
Petticoat,'' ``Fernwood 2-Night'' and ``Pop Goes the Country.''
    Ernest usually was dressed in a baseball cap, T-shirt, blue
denim vest and blue jeans. He had a generous nose. He was hapless
and harmless.
    About his outfit, he told The Associated Press in 1984, ``It's a
lovely outfit that can be worn gracefully six days a week.''
    Born in Lexington, Ky., Varney began acting in local theater at
8. By the age of 16 he was playing Shakespeare in a professional
theater, though he didn't tell his teachers. He sought his acting
fortune in New York at 18 and slogged through off-Broadway, dinner
theaters and comedy clubs.
    ``That's a rough department, stand-up comedy,'' he remarked.
    ``At one point I had an act where I could go 30 or 40 minutes,
and I knew the material I was going to do, the timing, etc. You
could play it one night and knock'em over. The next night you could
play the same material -- nothing.''
    Varney got the cancer diagnosis in August 1998, and within
months it had spread to his brain. The cancer appeared to be in
remission in late 1999 though radiation had left him bald. Despite
his illness, in 1999 he filmed the movie ``Daddy and Them''
starring Billy Bob Thornton.
http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=11:01:17|AM&p=avg&sql=EJim|Varney
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    GARRISON, N.Y. (AP) -- The Rev. Daniel Egan, whose pioneering
work with drug addicts and alcoholics earned him the nickname
``junkie priest,'' died Thursday. He was 84.
    In 1959, when he helped interns at Bellevue Hospital find a
usable vein on a drug addict, one asked him, ``What are you, a
junkie priest?'' The nickname was adopted by police officers and it
became the title of his biography.
----
                          *Lord Kitchener
    PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad (AP) -- Lord Kitchener, who rose from a
country boy with no musical training to become the ``Grand Master''
of calypso in Trinidad and Tobago, died Friday. He was 77.
    Born Aldwyn Roberts, Lord Kitchener was different from the time
he sang in his first calypso tent at the age of 15 for 12 cents.
    In an era when calypsonians assumed powerful monikers like the
Roaring Lion, the Mighty Killer and Mighty Sparrow, he called
himself Lord Kitchener after the British army officer who
successfully waged a military campaign to win back the Sudan in
1898. With the theme of fighting and defending being central to the
calypso idiom, the persona seemed to fit.
    He dominated the calypso world in the 1960s and 1970s with tunes
such as ``Mama dis is Mas'' and ``Rainorama'' -- a comic look at the
hysteria created among his countrymen when Carnival was delayed in
1973 because of an outbreak of polio.
    He composed the first calypso played by a steelband orchestra.
``The Beat of the Steelband,'' in 1944, and was closely associated
with the steelband movement afterward.
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-l-kitchener.html
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000211/en/people-kitchener1stld_1.html
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=11:01:59|AM&p=amg&sql=B182423
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                            *Roger Vadim
    PARIS (AP) -- Roger Vadim, the film director who pursued beauty
both in film and in life, romancing some of the world's most
sought-after actresses -- including Brigitte Bardot, Jane Fonda and
Catherine Deneuve-- died Friday of cancer. He was 72.
    He counted Bardot and Fonda among his five wives, and had a
child with Deneuve, his companion between marriages.
    Among them was French siren Bardot, who won instant fame in the
1956 ``And God Created Woman.''
    The film defined the content and set the tone for many of
Vadim's movies, including the 1968 ``Barbarella,'' an avant-garde
sci-fi romp starring his new wife, Fonda.
    Vadim cast 26 movies with leading ladies ranging from the
elegant Deneuve to earthy Angie Dickinson and intellectual Jeanne
Moreau and Susan Sarandon. In 1988, he did a remake of ``And God
Created Woman'' starring Rebecca DeMornay.
    In 1975, he married Catherine Schneider with whom he had his
fourth child, Vania.
    In 1990 he wedded for the fifth time, marrying actress
Marie-Christine Barrault. They were still married when he died.
    Vadim's other films include ``Les Bijoutiers du Clair de Lune''
(The Night Heaven Fell) (1958), ``Les Liaisons Dangereuses,''
(Dangerous Liaisons) (1959), ``Et Mourir de Plaisir'' (Blood and
Roses) (1960) and ``The Hot Touch'' (1981).
    PARIS, Feb. 11 (UPI) -- Roger Vadim, the French film director
best known as the man who discovered Brigitte Bardot, died in Paris on
Friday at age 72 after a long fight with cancer.
    Vadim, born of French-Ukrainian parents in Paris on Jan. 26,
1928 and named Roger Vadim Plemiannikov, began his professional life as a
stage actor when he was 16.
    Before he was 20 he had switched to movies as an apprentice
director and screen writer for the director Marc Allegret. In the
mid-'50s he also wrote for the weekly Paris Match and directed television
shows.
    In 1952 Vadim married a budding 18-year-old model and starlet
named Brigitte Bardot, and four years later he directed his first film
with her as the blond, pouting and largely undraped star. The sensational
film, "And God Created Woman," was an international sensation that
catapulted both Bardot and Vadim to celebrity.
    Vadim made several more films with Bardot, earning a fortune
and worldwide admiration while shocking the establishment. He made a
total of 26 films, starring such actresses as Angie Dickinson and Susan
Sarandon.
    His fame as a director of films was almost eclipsed by his
romantic liaisons with their stars. Vadim later married Annete Stroyberg
and Jane Fonda, whom he cast in the 1968 hit Barbarella, and fathered a
son by Catherine Deneuve, whom he lived with but never married. His last
wife was another actress, Marie-Christine Barrault.
    Vadim's 1986 book, "From One Star to Another," depicted
Bardot, Deneuve and Fonda as weak, unsure and troubled until he propelled
them to stardom. A Paris court on Jan. 15, 1987, ordered the film
director to pay $10,000 each to Bardot and Deneuve for revealing intimate
details of their private lives in his kiss-and-tell book.
    The court ruled that Vadim's book did not have to be withdrawn
from French bookshelves "due to the relatively innocent nature of the
critical revelations and the large publicity that was made when the book
appeared." Fonda was not a party to the lawsuit.
    The court noted that Bardot for years had "expressed her
desire to escape the curiosity of the public" and had the right to oppose
the publication of her "sentimental life." The court said Deneuve had
"also opposed any revelation concerning her private life" and had won
several similar cases against publications. Vadim contended he had the
right to reveal his remembrances and that the court could not limit his
right of expression.
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From: Jack Diamond <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Laurent Lombard-Happyland Sold Out
Date: 14 Feb 2000 05:07:13 -0800


Hello,

If you were planning on ordering the Laurent Lombard-Happyland CD
on KOSINUS, you lost, as I am SOULED OUT

Jean Jacques Perrey-"Good Moog" CD still available

Thanks
Jack

Jack Diamond Music
www.jackdiamond.com

Tune in Jack Diamond's "House of Games" every Saturday and
Sunday morning, from 9AM-11AM (PST), 10AM-Noon (MT),
11AM-1PM (CT) and/or Noon-2PM (ET) and then a repeat of the same
shows on Tuesday and Thursday mornings, from Midnight - 2AM (PST),
1AM-3AM, (MT), 2-4AM (CT) and/or 3-5AM (ET) on Go Ga Ga Free Form
Eclectic Internet Only Radio.  I know you would dig it:)
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Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:36:01 EST



In a message dated 2/13/0 5:47:30 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>The Evasions (?)

"from a land where good is bad, and bad is as good as it can possibly get"


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Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:38:05 EST



In a message dated 2/13/0 5:54:11 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Anyone got any recommendations for more East/West crossover albums?

Chim Kothari, "Sound of Sitar",  Vincent Bell, "Pop Goes the Sitar", and
Ananda Shanker's re-released 1970 Sitar LP (at Dusty Groove), and Basic Hip
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Subject: (exotica) Jazz in the 3rd reich
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:38:38 -0800


Regarding the latest postings on this subject ~~ I once heard a cut from 'Charlie and His Orchestra' on a jazz radio programme a few years ago. It was part of a reverse radio propaganda campaign by the Nazis. The jazz itself was very good ~~ it reminded me a lot of Charlie Barnett and Count Basie. I haven't been able to find a cd of 'Charlie' but perhaps there's a selection on the compilation disc mentioned?

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Subject: (exotica) Treasure in the desert  VEGAS!
Date: 14 Feb 2000 10:43:38 PST


Hello,
   Anyone know of a place to get records in Vegas??

Thanks

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From: "Tim Taylor" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Space Escapade
Date: 14 Feb 2000 12:58:36 -0500


Is that Les on the cover (on the right) of _Space Escapade_?  I have only
seen scans of the cover and can't really tell.

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Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 1/22/00
Date: 14 Feb 2000 11:14:30 -0800


The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7
FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County).

Also check out my show  The Nice Age at  http://www.spikeradio.com on Sunday
afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST.

Happy Valentine's Day!

The Liquid Room-2/13/00:

1.The Association-Come On In
Birthday (Warner Bros.)

This is my official new opening song, at least for the time being.

2.Puffy-Nagisa Ni Matsuwaru Et Cetera (Take Me To The Disco Mix by FPM)
PRMX-Puffy Remix Project (Sony Japan)

3.The Carnival-Love So Fine (Roger Nichols cover-produced by Bones Howe!)
The Carnival (World Pacific)

4.April March-Mon Ange Gardien
Dan Le Yeaux D'April March (10" EP-Tricatel France)

5.Jack Kevorkian & The Morpheus Quintet-A Very Still Life
A Very Still Life (Lucid)

6.Groove Armada-Pre 83
Vertigo (Jive)

6.Nana Kinomi-Suki Sa Suki Sa Suki Sa
60's Cutie Pop Collection Suki Suki Edit (King Japan)

7.Bjork-Amphibian (Film Mix)
Being John Malkovich Soundtrack (Astralwerks)

8.The Byrds-Goin' Back
The Notorious Byrd Brothers (Columbia)

9.Chocolat-....No Toenail
Hamster (Neosite Japan)

10.The Love Generation-Magic Land
Montage (Imperial)

11.Wondermints-Spoke Of A Wheel World
Bali (Neosite Japan)

12.The Wiseguys-Search's End
The Antidote (Ideal)

13.Hugo Montenegro-Tony's Them (From "Lady In Cement")
Good Vibrations (RCA)

14.Spam Allstars-Spanking
Pork Scratchings (Spam)

15.James Last-Voodoo Lady Love
Voodoo Party (Polydor)

16.Elvis Costello-My Funny Valentine
Armed Forces (bonus track) (Rykodisc)

17.Jack Jones-Lollipops And Roses
Greatest Hits (MCA)

18.Frank Sinatra-Where Are You?
Where Are You? (Capitol)

19.The Doopies-Love Songs (Love Is A Many Razor Bladed Thing)
Doopie Time (For Life Japan)

20.Savath & Savalas-Binoculars
Folk Songs for Trains, Tree And Honey (Hefty)

21.Herbie Mann-Mediterranian
Discoteque (Atlantic)

22.Buffalo Daughter-Sax, Drugs And Rock 'N' Roll (Live with Hajime Tachibana
of the Plastics)
7" single (Grand Royal)

23.Dionne Warwick-Who, What, When, Where, Why (Rupert Holmes cover!)
Dionne (Arista)

24.Eels-Grace Kelly Blues
Daisies Of The Galaxy (Dreamworks)

25.Mark Wirtz-Mr. Rainbow
A Teenage Opera (RPM-UK)

26.Air-The Word 'Hurricane'
The Virgin Suicides s/t (Astralwerks)

27.Wayne Newton-Comin' On Too Strong (Written by Gary Usher, produced by
Terry Melcher-very Beach Boys like)
Capitol Collectors Series (Capitol)

28.Denki Groove-Nothing's Gonna Change
Voxxx (Sony Japan)

29.Thelma Houston-Everybody Gets To Go To The Moon
Sunshower (ABC Dunhill)

30.Dean Martin-When You're Drinkin'
A Swingin' Night At The Sabre Room (Mac)

31.The Carnival-The Word
The Carnival (World Pacific)

32.Pizzicato Five-20th Century Girl
Pizzicato Five (*********)

33.The Rotary Connection-Sunshine Of Your Love
Songs (Cadet Concept)

34.Kraftwerk-Tanzmusik
Ralf And Florian (Vertigo)

35.DJ Me DJ You-9 Volt
Rainbows & Robots (Emperor Norton)

36.The Zeet Band-Moogie Boogie
Moogie Woogie (Chess)

37.Gershon Kingsley-Popcorn
At Home With The Groovebox (Grand Royal)

38.The Lou Hoffner Trio-Moog Walk
7" Single (Sheep-Switzerland)

39.Lee Hazlewood-Hey Me I'm Riding
13 (SLR)

40.Dots & Borders-Lonely Logic
Tokyo Tapes (Trattoria)

41.Spring-Everybody
Spring (Rhino)

42.Michel Polnareff-Fame Ala Mode
Michel Polnareff (Atlantic)

43.The Third Wave-Got To Get You Into My Life
Here And Now (Crippled Dick)

44.Paul Williams-Rainy Days And Mondays
A&M Greatest Hits (Polydor Japan)

45.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On
Someday Man (Reprise)



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From: "Josh Renaud" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Jazz in the 3rd Reich
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:53:04 -0500


I always knew the Nazi's blew, but this is ridiculous!

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Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:04:06 -0600


Big Band Exotica tops off this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast.
We'll hear from the bands led by Frankie Capp and Si Zentner (from
the famous "Exotica Suite", featuring Martin Denny, with music by
Les Baxter).

Also--"voodoo jazz" from Les Baxter, Richard Hayman and Pete
Rugolo; Italian spy jazz from Armando Trovaioli and Riz Ortolani;
Latin spice by Xavier Cugat, Percy Faith and Bossa Rio;  plus the
man who made the bongos rock!

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, just go to:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html

Requires a minimum 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer, blah-
blah-blah.  If you tune us in, please drop us a line!

Thanks for the space.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) LuxuriaMusic
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:36:18 -0500


At 12:18 PM -0500 2/14/00, [e-mail] wrote:
>Is today the official opening of http://www.luxuriamusic.com ?
>
>Michael, Br. C., The M. : tell us what's in store!

Yes, todays the day (well, tonight really, or tomorrow for some of you), as
the premiere is at 8PM Pacific Time tonight (lets see...that's 4AM in
London, 5 on the continent, 5PM tomorrow in Tokyo- - )

here's the official announcement - -

LUXURIA MUSIC.COM MAKES HISTORIC WORLDWIDE DEBUT ON VALENTINES DAY 2000
New Web Community Convened by Musicologist/Tastemaker Chuck Kelley and
World-Renowned Gentleman of Leisure "The Millionaire" Brings Exotic Culture,
Music to the Net 24/7
SANTA MONICA, Calif. -- What kind of person will visit Luxuria Music.com,
the bold, sensual and thrilling new music lifestyle community, when it goes
live on the web next Monday, Valentine=92s Day, February 14, 8 p.m. PST?

The unrepentant eccentric whose cultural taste runs from haute cuisine to
shabby chic and whose musical taste runs from Trip-Hop and Surf to Exotica,
Jazz, Hindi film soundtracks and beyond. The worldly and curious sort with a
voracious appetite for the vibrant and the innovative. Refined yet wild,
co-founders Chuck Kelley and The Millionaire have worked hard to ensure that
Luxuria Music (www.LuxuriaMusic.com) will become the Internet address of
choice for those with a burning need to know about the coolest in both
contemporary and retro music and culture.

Like the wide-ranging demographic it will serve, LuxuriaMusic.com recognizes
no cultural boundaries. To enter their world, visitors need only appreciate
the fine aesthetic thread that links Finnish designer Eero Aarnio to French
crooner Serge Gainsbourg, surf legend Dick Dale to filmmaker David Lynch and
spaghetti western composer Ennio Morricone to Beach Boys songwriter Brian
Wilson. Luxuria Music.com finds aesthetic commonality amongst diverse icons
of culture like The Ventures, Esquivel, Frank O. Gehry, Oscar Wilde, Raymond
Lowey, the Coen Brothers, Yma Sumac, Jazzanova, Prada, Charles Mingus,
Stanley Kubrick,Van Dyke Parks, Armando Trovajoli, Peggy Lee, Federico
=46ellini, Herman Melville, Air, Russ Meyer, Fantastic Plastic Machine,
Divine, Dustty Springfield, Helmut Newton and more.

When they enter LuxuriaMusic.com for the first time next week, visitors will
glean only the tip of the iceberg. This Summer, upon the community=92s
official launch, Luxuria Music.com will function as a full-service cultural
outpost including lifestyle, music and culture editorial features, news,
visuals and as well as a 24-hour day broadcast with the most unusual format
ever created for digital-age nonconformists and 21st Century hedonists
alike. Luxuria Music.com will soon offer branded merchandise including
recordings, clothing, bio-engineered synthetic organisms, jewelry, books,
home accoutrements and more.

"We're out to update the concept of the Jet Set," says The Millionaire.
"Initially, the term 'Jet Set' came from the notion of affordable world
travel, and a whole culture sprung up around that notion. The only problem
was, you had to be rich to be part of that scene. But the worldwide web is a
virtual Jet Set -- anyone with access to a computer can experience it. With
LuxuriaMusic.com, we're recreating that vibe. It's even in our name. We're
luxury for the people."

Throughout the process, LuxuriaMusic.com will depend on the anticipated keen
instincts of its visitors. "If somebody can hip us to some incredibly cool
and funky Thai organ music or Serbian tango music, that's great," says
co-founder The Millionaire (nee Michael Cudahy, a veteran of the popular and
critically acclaimed band Combustible Edison.) "Within any genre -- be it
pop, rock, r&b, jazz, Latin, standards or whatever -- there might be tracks
that are appropriate for LuxuriaMusic.com. If it's smooth and sophisticated
without being insipid, then we hope our visitors will tell us about it."

Interactivity, exclusivity, inside information, timeless music, a great
brand and related merchandise -- it all adds up to a new Internet community
that defies easy description. Just don't make the mistake of calling
LuxuriaMusic.com "lounge"; the community far and away transcends swizzle
stick cliches. "It=92s true, our music programming isn't as genre-specific a=
s,
say, metal or rap," says The Millionaire. "Our playlist is unified by
underlying set of values that circumnavigate both era and style. So we
represent a lot of different styles and times, from the past and into the
future."

Kelley can speak to the commercial appeal of musical eclecticism. As music
consultant for the hit soundtrack "Pulp Fiction," he witnessed first-hand
the commercial allure of smart, hip, diverse musical entertainment. "That
soundtrack wasn't just a collection of pop songs -- it was a real mix of
styles," Kelley says. "It had a couple of surf songs, a country song, some
funk songs. Yet, when you put it all together, it worked because fans of
modern culture are more eclectic than they=92re given credit for being. The
success of that record lets us know that people can accept the kind of
melange that LuxuriaMusic.com offers."

The seeds of Luxuria Music were sown in the late '80s when Chuck and the
Millionaire met at the notorious Tijuana bucket-of-blood, "El Alacran de
Oro", bonded immediately by their enthusiasm for bullfighting and the Beach
Boys. At the time, Chuck was employed at a suburban Los Angeles video store,
working alongside a clerk and aspiring filmmaker named Quentin Tarantino.
When Tarantino hit the big time with his critically acclaimed film,
"Reservoir Dogs," he tapped Kelley's musical expertise -- and massive record
collection -- for the soundtrack to his 1997 box office hit, "Pulp Fiction."


Eventually, Kelley landed at Enigma Digital, home of KNAC.COM,
GrooveRadio.com and other dynamic Internet music communities, based in Santa
Monica, Calif. When he learned his friend The Millionaire was planning to
move to Southern California, he persuaded Enigma Digital honchos to tap his
musical expertise. Within weeks, Chuck and the Millionaire were building
what was to become one of the most innovative new music destinations on the
Internet.

Presently counting down to Valentine=92s Day, Chuck Kelley and The Millionai=
re
will be joined by a virtual air staff of fellow cultural connoisseurs.

www.LuxuriaMusic.com



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Treasure in the desert  VEGAS!
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:45:30 -0500


At 1:43 PM -0500 2/14/00, Albert Fish wrote:

>   Anyone know of a place to get records in Vegas??

Las Vegas has for years been one of the best cities in the US for record
shopping. Every time I went I would spend at least 2 days hitting all the
stores, which are scattered all over the place. I believe Record Surplus
has 4 or 5 stores, and there are a number of others. Don't forget, this is
a place where people routinely sell their possesions to get more money to
gamble with. I haven't been in a few years, but I doubt that its gone
downhill at all. Prices were always good, too. You'll have to rent a car to
see them all. Also, there are excellent thrifts in North Las Vegas. Viva!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting/Steroe Action
Date: 14 Feb 2000 15:56:09 -0500


At 12:10 PM -0500 2/13/00, Mimi Mayer wrote:

>Which brings up another question: 45 collectors/accumulators, when did
>labels start producing 45s in stereo?

1968. I believe The Beatles 'Hey Jude' (Apple) was the first one; although
RCA did produce a few Living Stereo EP's and 45's in the early 60's.

>does anyone else know if the hifi versions of Stereo Action disks
>considered as collectible or even, weirdly, more desirable, than the stereo
>ones?

Nope......and they don't have the die cut covers either.

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From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 14 Feb 2000 16:05:42 -0500


        Check out "the Lotus Palace" by Bosstown Sound producer Alan
Lorber & his Orchestra fr '68 or 9. I have it on vinyl -saw the CD a little
while ago, but dunno the availability. Features future Oregonian Colin
Walcott on sitar, as well as Vinnie Bell on elecric sitar & some other
session guys. Nice mix of now sound (Lucy in the Sky, Up Up & Away, Look of
Love, Within You/Without You) & some more ambitious semi-arty East/West
originals. I like this one a lot.

            Another one I enjoy is Paul Horn's Monday, Monday;
Oliver Nelson arranged, & came up with a great Schiffrin-esque cop/action
sounding "Eight Miles High," along with a nice perky "Satisfaction" - more
60's au-go-go together with a number of fine eastern influenced originals,
w/odd meters, etc.

            Gotta second Jimmy on "Pop Goes..." by Vincent Bell,
tho it's not very "eastern" in the arrangement s or song selections (mostly
standards & pop tunes), but he's a great player, & the liner notes are
hysterical ("the modern electric sitar represents a tremendous advance over
the more primitive Indian instrument..." etc...)
          gh

        ------------------------------

        >Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:38:05 EST
        >From: [e-mail]
        >Subject: Re:  (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the
like...
        >
        >In a message dated 2/13/0 5:54:11 PM,
[e-mail] wrote:
        >
        >>Anyone got any recommendations for more East/West
crossover albums?
        >
        >Chim Kothari, "Sound of Sitar",  Vincent Bell, "Pop Goes
the Sitar", and
        >Ananda Shanker's re-released 1970 Sitar LP (at Dusty
Groove), and Basic Hip
        >can fill in the rest, I'm sure...JB


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 14 Feb 2000 16:51:52 -0500


This is a great CD - and is usually readily available from both Dusty
Groove and CDNow - not expensive, either!

cheryl

George Hall wrote:
>
>                 Check out "the Lotus Palace" by Bosstown Sound producer Alan
> Lorber & his Orchestra fr '68 or 9. I have it on vinyl -saw the CD a little
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: hi, i'm new   +   (exotica) used vinyl battlefield
Date: 14 Feb 2000 23:09:49 +0100


Will Louviere wrote:

> hi.
>
> my names will, and i run the graphically challenged website :
> showandtellmusic.com. http://showandtellmusic.com/

nice. I like your little comments on the records, that give an impression of
what's heard on them.

Where do you live in the Bay area?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Jazz in the 3rd reich
Date: 14 Feb 2000 23:11:36 +0100


paul thomas wrote:

> Regarding the latest postings on this subject ~~ I once heard a cut from 'Charlie and His Orchestra' on a jazz radio programme a few years ago. It was part of a reverse radio propaganda campaign by the Nazis. The jazz itself was very good ~~ it reminded me a lot of Charlie Barnett and Count Basie. I haven't been able to find a cd of 'Charlie' but perhaps there's a selection on the compilation disc mentioned?

Yep! One track, "Slummin' On Park Avenue". It's Karl "Charlie" Schwedler, "who worked in the German Foreign Ministry's departement in 1941, concerned with the political side of broadcasting"... et al, as the booklet says. Lyrics go something like this: "...let's go bombing, just like the British do; let's bomb the French, that once were our allies..." etc etc. When, please, have the French been the allies of
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From: "Magnus Sandberg" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lazy bones
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:42:44 PST



Now its DONE!
I ordered "See it in sound" today.

A new Esquivel! Incredible.
I need more spanking from the sun, this time for my laziness.

As for complaining, the cover looked pretty dull. but the little soundfiles
promised something brilliant.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Collecting/Thrifting Ray Coniff
Date: 14 Feb 2000 13:50:11 -0800 (PST)




I have been wanting to ask this question for some time:

How many Ray Coniff albums are there?
Every time I go to the thrifts theres 4 more sifting there staring at me that  I
never heard of.  I have yet to find this soft pop cut DjJimmy played on his show
and I am just in shock how many pretty women grace the covers of Ray Coniff

And for that matter, How many Andy Williams albums are there?
Nat had me searching for God Only Knows by Mr Williams and I found myself going
through the tracks of all these Andy albums until finally one day there it was.

I wont mention other artists but there are a few others that dwarf the 2 above such
as that piano duo of  F & T.

And I use to think the Stones released allot of records, P5 has them beat already.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: The Millionaire <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Luxuria launches tonight!!
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:31:41 -0800




Just wanted to let you all know that Luxuria Music launches tonight...8:00
PM pacific time/11:00 EST...elsewhere;figure it out.Our guests in the studio
will be eccentric maestro of American music,Van Dyke Parks, and (more than
likely),Tura Satana and Haji(of "Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!" fame).You'll
have to check in in  a day or two to see the lingerie fashion show/burlesque
dancers!

We'd love your feedback on the site--stop by and register!(You'll be
eligible to win a theremin, too).


www.luxuriamusic.com

Yours, The exhausted Millionaire


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Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 00:03:50 -0000


Get Gabor Szabo and the New Happy Time Orchestra "Light My Fire", this has
some really fantastic Psychedelic Sitar tomfoolery

The Vampyros Lesbos Soundtrack-yeh baby there is a groover Plenty of Lush
Sitar on there.

If you can ever see one of his LP's get Big Jim Sullivan doing a cover of
Donovans "Sunshine Superman" very swinging indeed he must have beeen blessed
by fantastic fingers.

If you ever are lucky enough to get a copy of The Rubiyat of Dorothy Ashby,
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:54:26 -0800 (PST)


I was driving around in my car playing this song many times this weekend.  I can't
recommend this song enough!

Next christmas I'll be drinking a Mai Tai  when this song plays.   Are any other
albums good by them?

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

--- Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> The Blue Hawaiians have a great song on their "Christmas from Big
> Island" CD called "Have yourself a Quiet little Christmas".


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival: 2000 daily lineup
Date: 14 Feb 2000 14:37:17 -0800 (PST)


http://www.insideneworleans.com/entertainment/nojazzfest/schedules/friday28.htm

The New Orleans Jazz Fest is about to start the last weekend in April.  we just
gotta get past carnival season which is in full heat right now and peaks March 7,
Mardis Gras Day.

The link above is a listing of all the acts playing at the jazz fest

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Collecting/Thrifting Ray Coniff
Date: 14 Feb 2000 20:09:25 -0500 (EST)



Chuck, go to the spageage pop website. Not sure if it lists them all, but
here are a lot of them out there. Between Percy Faith and Ray Coniff,
they must have released a zillion albums.



On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, chuck wrote:

>
> How many Ray Coniff albums are there?
> Every time I go to the thrifts theres 4 more sifting there staring at me that  I
> never heard of.  I have yet to find this soft pop cut DjJimmy played on his show
> and I am just in shock how many pretty women grace the covers of Ray Coniff



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting/Steroe Action
Date: 14 Feb 2000 17:58:20 -0800


>>does anyone else know if the hifi versions of Stereo Action disks
>>considered as collectible or even, weirdly, more desirable, than the stereo
>>ones?
>Nope......and they don't have the die cut covers either.

Oh, and I found out something else!  If covers are important to you, beware
of LSA prefixed records which get the suffix RE at the end.  These are
reissues by RCA...great sound, but also without the die cut covers.
Unfortunately, some sellers on ebay don't give this information and I
didn't know to ask.  I don't know how many of the total SA discs were
re-released, but there is at least one (Crazy Rhythm, The Guitars Unlimited
Plus 7) which did get the treatment.  By the way, this is a great album...I
enjoyed EVERY selection, but I am now looking for the one in the die cut
cover as this is LSA-2371 RE (the number only on the back cover, the front
cover is only LSA-2371).


Byron Caloz
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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 14 Feb 2000 22:13:39 -0500


At 11:19 PM 2/13/00 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>Now you have me confused.  I don't go to thrift stores partly
>because I find them depressing places and partly as you say, I
>don't expect to find much, given the limited time I have to spend
>looking. But then I'm in no way a completist either so I'm not sure I
>fit into your generic collector standard.

There are a lot of reasons NOT to go to thrift stores.
Collectors don't go there because they don't expect to find anything.  But
you don't have to be a collector in order to come to the same conclusion.
If you're an accumulator of Impulse jazz LP's or delta blues 78's or Nick
Cave CD's or any number of other things, then you too might be wasting your
time at the thrift stores.

People who go to thrift stores are generally more easily pleased than other
accumulators or collectors.

And like I said before, it can be argued that the reason I always find
"something" at a thrift store is because I decided I liked shopping there
and I expanded the borders of my taste so as to assure "success".

I'm like the rat who has figured out a rationalization so that even when I
hit the bar and no pellet comes, still I'm kinda satisfied.

I don't go to thrift stores to fill in holes in my accumulation.  If that
happens, that's a bonus.  I go there because I'm "addicted" to the act of
flipping past dozens of copies of Billy Joel's "The Stranger" and then
stopping suddenly when I come to "China! popular songs sung by Li Li Hua
and Tong Pei Pei" on Capitol's "Capitol of the World series" which I
probably won't even keep myself since there's this friend of my friend that
collects this series and I'll more than likely send it to him.

There are a dozen reasons why I can be "glad" to find something.  I have
found truly great classic records at thrift stores but I can be satisfied
by finding a record I know someone else wants or by finding a cool cover or
by finding a Bert Kaempfert record with a version of "Games People Play"
that I'll probably just tape and then put out on the street.

This doesn't exactly apply to me since like I said, I'm not really looking
for that many specific records but for those who are, it's a question of
which you have more of: time or money.

If you have lots of time but not much money, you go to thrift stores and
someday you'll probably find some of the records you're looking for.
You'll have wasted a lot of time but not a lot of money.
If you have money but not much time, you look on lists or auctions or at
used record stores and you'll probably find it fairly easily.  You won't
waste much time but you might spend a lot of money.

But either way, you're unlikely to find "Ursula 1000" at a thrift store.

There are often surprises but there's still generally a rationale behind
which records end up at a thrift store and which ones end up at a used
record store.

I don't think I've found ten bebop records in five years of thrift store
hunting.  You might find Ahmad Jamal or Calvin Jackson or even Brubeck but
you're unlikely to find Pharoah Sanders.  And I think there's a reason for
that.

Nat



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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 14 Feb 2000 22:13:32 -0500


At 01:38 PM 2/14/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>In a message dated 2/13/0 5:54:11 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Anyone got any recommendations for more East/West crossover albums?

On CD, there's Ashwin Batish.  I have "Sitar Power #2" so I assume there's
others.  It's hard to describe but it's somehow not as "lighthearted" as
the sixties and seventies stuff.

Others have eluded to Bill Plummer's work on Gabor Szabo, Paul Horn and Bob
Thiele records among others.  But you also have to mention his own record
"Bill Plummer and the Cosmic Brotherhood".  There's a semi-spoken word
piece on there called "Journey to the East" which I just put on my
exotica-ring tape.

And hey, while we're on Bill Plummer, we should probably mention Mancini's
soundtrack for "The Party".

There were lots of east/west crossover albums made but not necessarily
featuring electric sitar.

Buddy Rich made one. a kind of "drum battle" with Alla Rakha on table,
called "Rich a la Rakha".  I can't totally recommend it but I'm glad I have
it.

And there's a Herbie Mann record called "Impressions of the Middle East"
which almost qualifies.  But I'd be surprised if Herbie didn't go further
east on another record, I just don't know the name of it.

And then there's Alice Coltrane.  Most of her records have a kind of
east/west crossover feel and I've never heard one I didn't like, though
"Ptah the El Daoud" may be a bit further out there than some people want to
go.

And I'm sure there's a hundred other "jazz" records with some form of overt
Eastern influence.

And then there's always "Cry like a Baby".

Nat



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From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Crazy Rhythm
Date: 14 Feb 2000 22:42:24 -0500 (EST)




I just mentioned this to Mimi the other day. Crazy Rhythm is indeed, a
most excellent record. My favorite Stereo Action so far, I think.
Mine is also non-gatefold. I just figured they did it that way because the
date on the album is '65, and by then stereo wasn't a big new thing
anymore, and the series was probably grinding down.


- bruce


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www.lenkeidesign.com

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  I don't know how many of the total SA discs were
> re-released, but there is at least one (Crazy Rhythm, The Guitars Unlimited
> Plus 7) which did get the treatment.  By the way, this is a great album...I
> enjoyed EVERY selection, but I am now looking for the one in the die cut
> cover as this is LSA-2371 RE (the number only on the back cover, the front
> cover is only LSA-2371).
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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting
Date: 15 Feb 2000 01:00:55 +0100


>Again, the one exception is Nino Rota's music, which I keep no matter what,
>no matter how crappy or idiotic or stupid the arrangement. I intend to have
>my Rota music cremated with me and the ashes of both scattered on the broad
>and rolling Pacific, or some such nonsense.

LOL!
If I ever get the rights to a certain Rota cd I'm trying to get, I think I
already have one cd sold... ;D

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

"Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief"
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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Obits....a headful of obits....WHOA.
Date: 15 Feb 2000 15:27:28 +1100


Wow, Lou, you throttled me with these latest. Chas.Schulz aside (sad to see
the end of such a staple), the passing of Screamin' Jay Hawkins AND Lord
Kitchener in one week left me pale.

I just stuck up a scan of Kitch's phenomenal first LP here:

http:www.lobue-art.com/Updates/Kitch.jpg

He was the most incredible of all calypso singers, in my opinion.  Anyone
who hears the song "Tongue-Tied Mopsie" will have to agree, this man was a
consummate artist, no less original and influential in his idiom than Robert
Johnson to the blues, or, closer to home, Joseph Spence.

You can't help but feel Screamin' Jay is throwing a pyrotechnic tantrum at
the gates of Heaven, where he's being asked to atone for a life of
mock-voodoo!

Keith

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From: "Otto" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians
Date: 14 Feb 2000 22:17:31 -0800


All of their CDs are good
their previous one is the best of the the three others they have out
Here are their best releases in order

Xmas on Big Island
Sway (1998 or early 99)
Live at the Lava Lounge (their first)
Savage Night (their latest)

Aloha
Otto

[e-mail]
www.tikinews.com

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>From: chuck <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail], Mimi Mayer <[e-mail]>
>Cc: [e-mail]
>Subject: (exotica) The Blue Hawaiians

>I was driving around in my car playing this song many times this weekend.  I can't
>recommend this song enough!
>
>Next christmas I'll be drinking a Mai Tai  when this song plays.   Are any other
>albums good by them?
>
>Easy listening in the Big Easy
>Chuck
>
>--- Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> The Blue Hawaiians have a great song on their "Christmas from Big
>> Island" CD called "Have yourself a Quiet little Christmas".


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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ratings
Date: 15 Feb 2000 11:23:04 +0100



If you have difficulty constructing an adequate rating system,
this might give you a hint where to go..., it's from the latest
mini-AIR (The Annals of Improbable Research):


How do you compare a wretched movie with one that is far, far
worse? The differing levels of badness almost seem to defy such
comparison. Yet, like anything that spans an enormous range of
values from TEENIE-TEENIE-TEENIE-TEENIE to BIG-MOTHER-UNGODLY-
HUGE, the badness can be compared easily -- if you use a
logarithmic scale.
    Math teachers want to show everyone how easy it is to make
and use a logarithmic scale. For some examples, see
  http://www.ieer.org/clssroom/log.html
  http://forum.swarthmore.edu/dr.math/problems/tori11.21.98.html
Yet the teachers' explanations sometimes frighten or intimidate
mere mortals.
    AIR's advice columnist, scientist/supermodel Symmetra, has
decided to take a crack at demonstrating logarithmic scales.
Symmetra offers this:

"Everyone has seen lots of bad movies. Most are just mediocre.
Some are twice as bad, or ten times as bad or fifty times.  And
there are movies that are much, much, much, much, much, much
worse. And then -- then there are movies that are much, much,
much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,
much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,
much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,
much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,
much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,
much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,
much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,
much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much,
much, much worse. And there are some movies that are even worse
than that.
    To describe the magnitude of the awfulness of some of these
bad movies, you need to use lots of zeroes. Some bad movies are
about 100 times worse than a mediocre movie; some are about
100,000 times worse, some are about 100,000,000,000,000,000 times
worse, etc. This kind of comparison is awkward if you use all the
zeroes, but easy if you use logarithms. I invite everyone to send
me data about bad movies they have seen:
 <> the name the movie;
 <> a 10-word description of what's bad about it;
 <> a logarithmic value that indicates how bad it is
    compared to a mediocre movie.
"I will compile and edit this data, and post it on the AIR web
site."      http://www.improbable.com


Please send your BRIEF entry to "Scientist/supermodel Symmetra's
Mortifying-Movie Measurement Project" c/o AIR c/o
<[e-mail]>





My rating system has the charm of being relatively simple.

Good. Will do. Bad.

Cheers, Ton


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 15 Feb 2000 11:32:08 +0100




Nat Kone wrote:

> I'm like the rat who has figured out a rationalization so that even when I
> hit the bar and no pellet comes, still I'm kinda satisfied.
>

Like these frogs in England that due to warm climate lacking enough females
this season started making love to gold fishes, green rubber boots and garden
dwarf figurines? ;-)

Don't forget, the habit to search thrift stores for records (as well as
Hawaiian shirts, Keane prints, 50s household articles and and and) evolved
sometimes in the 70s when it wasn't hip at all and when you could still find
near mint Martin Denny's Exoticas for 50c a piece. Todays thrifting is only an
echo of that and I guess it's almost over for many categories, unless you
start looking for something different, unexpected, that noone else has on
his/her list, like vintage computers (I saw an Apple 2 in a wooden chassis for
8$ in Glendale) or books like these 24 volumes full of crazy photos and
illustrations of "understanding human behaviour" that I bought "recently" in
Montreal for, yes, of course: 50 cent each. Also there is always the
possibility that records that you constantly ignore suddenly become the
desired objects of broad interest. You only find in thrift shops what you are
looking for. You only see what you know.

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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) collect and accumulate
Date: 15 Feb 2000 07:43:12 -0500


Respectfully partly disagreeing with Nat, It's not a matter of never
finding certain genres, although there are some things you just (almost)
NEVER will find. But i've certainly found Pharoah Sanders, and Syrian
78s from 1916, and Gordon Thomas, and other unexpected rarities in
categories usually not resident in the dustbins. Maybe 1 in 10,000 or
even 1 in 25,000, but think about it... devotees of TSS (thrift shop
shopping SITTF) will sift through a LOT of records over the course of a
year (i won't even guess, you figure it out!). Of course i also note
that certain great records will vanish the instant they hit the store,
and VERY OFTEN before!

anyway, time to begin the day. Ablution, ablation, illusion, evasion,
corrosion, erosion, invasion, bemusement.

ck
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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music to Read "The Pretenders" By
Date: 15 Feb 2000 07:11:31


A choice find at the local Half-Price Books:

"Music to Read 'The Pretenders' By"
Joe Rene Complex
Philips LP

"The Pretenders" was a Jacqueline Susann/Harold Robbins-like softcore soap
opera novel by Gwen Davis.  This album purports to be a "Discobook," and
the selections refer to specific page numbers in the book, allowing you to
listen and read along at the same time.

This is a wonderfully odd album, with a variety of cuts--some now sound
with wordless vocals, one camp 20s style number (does anyone else abhor the
"Winchester Cathedral"/"Thoroughly Modern Millie" 20s nostalgia craze of
the late 60s and the crap it produced?), and several music/spoken numbers.
One sounds like a cocktail party with bits of dialogue as if you're
overhearing conversations ("Cmon, baby, let's get outta here";  "Darling, I
haven't seen you since you were wearing that charming little tent at
Newport").  And one striking number that features male and female choruses
chanting contrasting funeral orations.  The men speak the standard pieties
("Dearly beloved, we are gathered together to mourn the passing of a man
who passed from this life ...") while the women get ruder and ruder ("He
was a big rich man ... He was a big, fat slob ... He used to throw lots of
parties in the big back seat of his car--just for girls.  Lots of girls").

One of the few albums I've heard recently that have enough cut-to-cut
variety to be worth listening to straight through repeatedly.  Best buy of
the year so far.

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 15 Feb 2000 13:35:58 GMT


> From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
>
> But either way, you're unlikely to find "Ursula 1000" at a thrift store.
>

True. Although having said that, over the past couple of months I did
manage to pick up vinyl copies of "The Sound Gallery", "Vampyros
Lesbos" and "Soundtracks for Living" by the Gentle People in charity
shops. YMMV.

> There are often surprises but there's still generally a rationale behind
> which records end up at a thrift store and which ones end up at a used
> record store.
>

Few-to-none of the used record shops round here really have anything
you could call an EZ/Exotica section. So I generally don't find stuff
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Completist collecting
Date: 15 Feb 2000 07:59:04 -0500


At 1:00 AM 2/15/0, Dj Batman wrote:
>If I ever get the rights to a certain Rota cd I'm trying to get, I think I
>already have one cd sold... ;D

One only? Please! We're talking a caseful, honey.
We apostles of the Order of Nino take our evangelistic duties seriously.
Please make my day by telling us that certain Rota CD is, is...Nights of
Cabiria!

Do that, I'll switch allegiances and found the Order of DJ Batman.

Mimi,
squirming with excitement and collector's lust and dying to own many copies
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From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LuxuriaMusic
Date: 15 Feb 2000 13:47:41 -0000


In the middle of Br Cleve's message we have:

Throughout the process, LuxuriaMusic.com will depend on the anticipated keen
instincts of its visitors. "If somebody can hip us to some incredibly cool
and funky Thai organ music or Serbian tango music, that's great," says
co-founder The Millionaire.....

Well, not quite,  but this weekend I was given an LP of Korean Organ music.
Strange stuff.  On the 'OASIS' Label (OL 1201)  The sleeve looked at first
glance like a Greek record for some reason,  but the script was obviously
all wrong,  almost the only European characters on it are the labels address
in Seoul Korea.

Its hard to know when to start,  the Black and White leather finish cover
features a man singing into a microphone,  not remarkable except its an all
instrumental LP,  The back has a track listing,  it also has the tracks
again, with other catalogue numbers so i imagine its a comp.  The back also
has a picture of a different guy in a suit and glasses standing at a couple
of keyboards.  They seem to have drawbars on like 70's 'quality' organs
would have.  The other English language on the sleeve is for the track list,
not the titles (no, too easy) but the rhythm presets that whoever it is uses
on the songs.  eg tracks 1 & 5 on side 1 and 3 & 5 on side 2 are 'SLOW
ROCK',  tracks 2,4 & 6 on side 1 and 2 on side 2 are 'SOUL'.

For some reason my auto-detecting turntable thinks its a 7.

The music.  Well it sounds like US style Exotica.  Played on an organ.
Vague Easternisms over a western preset rhythm.  Its been double tracked,
probably no more, with mindbogglingly clumsy stereo,  the main organ and
rhythm track will suddenly drop to one side while another part comes in on
the other channel,,  then they reverse. You get the idea.  There may be an
underamplified  guitar on there too, or it could be a good impression of one
on the keyboard.

I don't recognise any of the songs,  but god knows I'm no expert anyway
(only recently got a non-surf Miserlou),  but I like it.  Perhaps its the
organ thing.  I can't get onto the web to do a search for some reason,  so
I've not been able to do any more research on it.

El Maestro Con Queso

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Nina Rota OST specials from CAM
Date: 15 Feb 2000 08:08:44 -0500


>Chuck from the Big Easy wrote offlist:
>>I just got Juliet of the Spirits in  and its absolutely fabulous.  One of
>>the most >>joyful soundtracks I have ever heard and certainly helped make
>>this great movie >better.
>
>Oh, that's my fav fav favorite! I even drop a theme from JotS on most
>tapes I make for people--a little signature tune, if you will. Had it on
>my phone answering machine tape for a long time, too.
>
>>What else would you recommend by him??

>The others I really love include Rota's scores for
>8 1/2
>La Dolce Vita
>Casanova--witchy and very pretty. Working music.
>Amarcord
>Tutti Fellini--out of print for a long time, glad it's available again. Go
>for Fellini et Rota -I Film, Le Musiche, for Rota-only themes--no Fred &
>Ginger, for example.
>
>You can order these OSTs direct from the Italian label CAM at savings
>right now--about US$8.26 a disk. Such a deal! (I paid $18 plus shipping
>for La Dolce Vita last year). US$11.06 for the Tutti Fellini 2-CD
>set--cuts from all the Fellini OSTs. A terrific collection and a solid
>overview. Find CAM at www.cam-ost.it and search through artists for Nino
>Rota or Giovanni Rota, his formal name. Funny, I spent much of Sunday at
>the CAM web site--lots of RA samples, so you can hear before you order.
>
>Check out the specials too--an alluring 3 CD bargain of themes from erotic
>films, US$19. In the same spot, you can save if you order at least 5 Rota
>Fellini OSTs from the site.

>Enjoy,
>Mimi






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From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 15 Feb 2000 10:37:06 -0500


Mo wrote:
>Todays thrifting is only an
>echo of that and I guess it's almost over for many categories, unless you
>start looking for something different, unexpected, that noone else has on
>his/her list, like vintage computers

On this eternal Thrift question "is it over?" perhaps we could get
some thoughts from the Poet Laureate and World's Leading Authority on
all Thrift-related matters--who is known to lurk hereabouts, and who
has written on this very subject. . . .

Suffice to say that you might all just scamper directly to
http://www.girlreporter.com for further enlightenment. (And
attractive discounts on back issues!)


My view is that a great thrift score always involves some kind of
"information gap." You buy something really cool, from someone who
doesn't realize it's cool, and so the price they have set is
correspondingly ludicrous.

However with eBay and the explosion of "collectibles" and price
guides, it seems that a lot of those old information gaps are
narrowing--at least for the items which *our* demographic would be
interested in. So to us, it seems like there's just more and more
dreck in the thrift shops.

But that Horizon of Revulsion, that definition of what is "obviously"
worthless, shifts for each successive generation. And just as surely
as the sun will come up tomorrow, there is some young person out
there who has started to collect Pat Benatar records. .  .

yours thriftily,
  --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 15 Feb 2000 09:44:03 -0800


>...echo of that and I guess it's almost over for many categories, unless you
>start looking for something different, unexpected, that noone else has on
>his/her list, like vintage computers (I saw an Apple 2 in a wooden chassis
>for
>8$ in Glendale)

Ahem!  If it was an Apple cpu in a wooden chassis, it was not an Apple
][; it was an Apple I.  Last sold at auction for something like 15 GRAND.
 There were an extremely limited number of those made.  You should have
snapped that up, whether it was in working condition or not!!!!!!!!

Regards,
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From: "Chuck Collazzi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re:  For fans of Anandar Shankar and the
Date: 15 Feb 2000 12:46:31 -0500


"East Meets West"
Ahmed Abdul-Malik on early RCA
a wonderful LP
haven't seen it in years
Regards
Chuck


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Subject: (exotica) [obit] Oliver,Alan Smithee,Dilip Dhawan
Date: 15 Feb 2000 12:59:01 -0500


http://www.shreveporttimes.com/news/021500/101/3527.htm
'60s Recording Artist Oliver Dies At 54

Allmusic bio at:
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:46:20|PM&p=amg&sql=B25314
-----
Alan (Allen) Smithee, director of numerous films, television programs
and music videos, has died in Hollywood. Smithee, one of the
entertainment industryÆs most infamous auteurs, worked steadily in the
entertainment industry for 45 years. His age was unknown. He always
managed to maintain a low profile in a notoriously high-profile
industry. As with such geniuses as Thomas Pynchon, little or no recorded
interviews or television appearances appear to have survived his career.

Smithee's first film was the 1955 television production of "The
Indiscreet Mrs. Jarvis," starring Angela Lansbury. In 1967, he
championed the Richard Widmark film "Death of a Gunfighter," released
two years later. Smithee received favorable reviews from such
publications as the New York Times and Variety for the effort. Other
films helmed by Smithee include "Appointment with Fear," "Shrimp on the
Barbie," and "Let's Get Harry." Smithee was also assistant director of
1983's "Twilight Zone: The Movie."

In the 1990's, Smithee continued to direct at a brisk pace, mainly via a
series of low-budget horror movies. He also helmed episodes of various
television series, including the "McGyver" pilot and an episode of "Twin
Peaks." Additionally, Smithee was the guiding force behind a series of
music videos, for artists as varied as En Vogue, Porno for Pyros and
Whitney Houston.

In 1997, the University of Pennsylvania held a retrospective and
conference on Smithee's films.

Smithee was scheduled to take over for director Walter Hill on the
recently released science fiction film "Supernova." Instead, the film
was finished by close friend Thomas Lee.

According to the Director's Guild of America, Smithee passed away
quietly sometime in late January. According to a spokesperson, all
projects currently on Smithee's schedule will be handled by Lee.

No services have been announced.
http://allmovie.com/cg/x.dll?UID=12:49:35|PM&p=avg&sql=EAlan|Smithee
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Smithee,+Alan
-----
ACTOR DILIP DHAWAN DEAD

Mumbai - Well-known character actor Dilip Dhawan died at
his Bandra residence here today after a massive heart
attack, family sources said. He was 45. Starting his
career as a child artiste in 'Sangarsh', featuring Dilip
Kumar, Dhawan acted in over 50 films, including 'Ek Bar
Kaho', 'Virasat', 'Swarg', and 'Heena', reports PTI.

He came into the limelight on the small screen with his
portrayal of 'Guru' in the popular TV serial 'Nukkad'. He
enacted powerful roles in serials like 'Janam', 'Deewar',
'Tere Mere Sapne' and 'Aur Ek Din'.

Dhawan, son of noted character actor late Krishan Dhawan,
also produced a feature film 'Saath Saath', directed by
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Oliver,Alan Smithee,Dilip Dhawan
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:06:18 -0500


Am I wrong, or is Alan Smithee that famous "nom de plume" that Hollywood
uses when a writer/producer/director doesn't want to put his name on a
finished project?  He doesn't really exist, does he?

cheryl

[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Allmusic bio at:
> http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=3D12:46:20|PM&p=3Damg&sql=3DB25314
> -----
> Alan (Allen) Smithee, director of numerous films, television programs
> and music videos, has died in Hollywood. Smithee, one of the
> entertainment industry=92s most infamous auteurs, worked steadily in th=
e
> entertainment industry for 45 years. His age was unknown. He always
> managed to maintain a low profile in a notoriously high-profile
> industry. As with such geniuses as Thomas Pynchon, little or no recorde=
d
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Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 19:17:17 -0000


dont forget the classic Guru Vin
-----  on The Distant Galaxy By Don Sebesky-Man it is beautiful, and very
groovy

cheers

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Collecting/Thrifting Ray Coniff
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:20:11 EST



In a message dated 2/14/0 5:54:01 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I have yet to find this soft pop cut DjJimmy played on his show

Look for the later 6T's LP's with top 40 radio fare of the day. They all have
that certain softness to them. One track is bound to grab you here or there
and they shouldn't be hard to find. Again, good-looking women grace the
covers as per usual...JB


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:27:15 EST



In a message dated 2/14/0 10:09:32 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>At 01:38 PM 2/14/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>>In a message dated 2/13/0 5:54:11 PM, [e-mail]
wrote:
>>>Anyone got any recommendations for more East/West crossover albums?

We've all been busy, haven't we!  Last but not least, let's not forget the
early 7T's soul tracks by artists attracted to the sitar: several by The
Stylistics, Bloodstone's "Outside Woman", Natural Four's "Heaven Right Here
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Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Oliver,Alan Smithee,Dilip Dhawan
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:29:51 -0500 (EST)



yes, you are correct. I just heard someone interviewed on NPR recently
about the decision to stop using Smithee.

So long, Al!




On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, cheryl wrote:

>
> Am I wrong, or is Alan Smithee that famous "nom de plume" that Hollywood
> uses when a writer/producer/director doesn't want to put his name on a
> finished project?  He doesn't really exist, does he?
>
> cheryl
>




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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:41:30 -0500


At 11:32 AM 2/15/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote:
>
>Don't forget, the habit to search thrift stores for records evolved
>sometimes in the 70s when it wasn't hip at all and when you could still find
>near mint Martin Denny's Exoticas for 50c a piece. Todays thrifting is
only an
>echo of that and I guess it's almost over for many categories, unless you
>start looking for something different, unexpected, that noone else has on
>his/her list,

Well even in the mid-nineties when I started, I found Dennys and even
Esquivels and for a while there, it was the BEST place to find Command
records, since very few used-record stores would carry such things.

But I want to make a plea here for the kinds of things you can still find
at thrift stores and that I assume you still will for a few years to come.

First of all, it's probably still the best place to find 78's of all kinds,
unless like I said before, you're only interested in delta blues or
something.  At least up here, you're very unlikely to find those.  But I've
found mint Elvis Presleys, all kinds of country, Slim Gaillard, Mickey
Katz, and all kinds of cool ethnic stuff plus "rare" stuff like Berliners
etc.  I've stopped buying them because I have five milk crates of coolish
stuff and I haven't played any of it for two years but it's fun just to
take em home and play them once.

But mostly my plea is for the classic easy listening stuff that doesn't
rise to the level of exotica or any other groovy label you might be pursuing.

It took a little while, it happened gradually, almost involuntarily but
somewhere in there I grew to genuinely like stuff I once considered kinda
boring.  And I really don't think my taste got worse; in fact I think I
could make an argument that it got better.

When I started on this road, I was only interested in the stuff with what
you might call more "overt" dynamics.  Lots of percussion, stereo effects,
bird calls, whatever.  Extreme arrangements.  Command stuff being a prime
example.

But now I enjoy a well-arranged tune.  Percy Faith, Kostelanetz, Billy Vaughn.

(In fact I put a Billy Vaughn tune on my exotica-ring tape.  But that's
because it's a moog tune with a strange theremin-sounding overtone.)

I still like "over-the-top" arrangements but now I can hear it in stuff
with what you might call more "subtle" elements.  The other day I was
listening to Bert Kaempfert doing "Games People Play" and it started off
with mostly horns but then suddenly, in come these strings and wordless
vocals and it was all kind of stupid and unnecessary and I loved it.

I don't know how to advise someone if they want to start liking this stuff
too.  With me, I think a lot of it came from having a friend who loved it
and watching him react to stuff I once would have passed over.

And it wasn't peer pressure.  It was good influences.  I think.

That and the fact that you can still find lots of it cheap.

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Collecting/Thrifting Ray Coniff
Date: 15 Feb 2000 11:35:30 -0800 (PST)


Don't know if this has been discussed (I haven't
followed this thread), but Ray Coniff has a rockabilly
LP... something like Let's Bop or Do the Bop. Only RC
in my collection. It's worth picking up cheaply. I've
included as many tracks from this as from Billy
Daniels and the Rhythm Rockers (thrillingly bad: aging
lounge crooner with a rockabilly beat) on the
Schlockabilly comp. tape I've put together.
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From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Kahunas! (Barbarella)
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:42:31 -0500


        Peter Risser wrote:

        >Now, the list:
        >Drum roll please......
        >Best soundtrack (new or re-release):
        >Bob Crewe - Barbarella

Is this the vinyl reissue-of-questionable-origin or a CD? If the latter, any
tips on where to find? I picked up a vinyl copy a little before Xmas & was a
little troubled; sound seemed kind of brittle & there was a skip. I got the
"Enter the Dragon" OST also, same day, same store, also "not on the original
label" & it sounded fine, so I'm wondering if I got a bad copy, or if it had
something to do with mastering, running time & thinner grooves ("Enter" is a
little over 25 minutes long, while Barbarella clocks in at a little over 25
per side). I ended up returnin it, since the cassette I made off an
ex-housemate's mint LP ($5 sealed at a used LP store in Tulsa Oklahoma!!) A
shame since I've been looking for this one for several years.




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Subject: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:39:49 EST



In a message dated 2/15/0 8:36:43 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Few-to-none of the used record shops round here really have anything
>you could call an EZ/Exotica section.

Sometimes you can find interesting items in the Jazz Dept. Yesterday I found
a sealed Cal Tjader on Verve from 1964 produced by Claus Ogerman, Gary
McPartland's "Soft Samba", and a 1963 Ramsey Lewis LP in mint condition in
stereo. I also got "F&T with Percussion" in the EZ section


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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Luxuria and Sci-Fi
Date: 15 Feb 2000 11:34:02 -0800 (PST)


Hey!  Bet y'all forgot all about me...:(
I've been lurking, and have a bunch of great new/old
rekkids to talk about, but not right now...

I am proud to say I have an article on the Luxuria
site...scroll to the right and click on the article
about Tampa!  I wrote it and my dahling brother took
pix...

Also, a quick note to letchuze know Astroslut will be
playing the SciFi Marathon in Brookline this Sunday-at
the Coolidge Corner Theatre!  Imagine...Astroslut in
the same town JFK was born...

More love later, Jane Fondle

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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit,Alan Smithee
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:59:02 -0500


At 12:59 PM 2/15/00 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>-----
>Alan (Allen) Smithee, director of numerous films, television programs
>and music videos, has died in Hollywood. Smithee, one of the
>entertainment industry=92s most infamous auteurs, worked steadily in the
>entertainment industry for 45 years. His age was unknown.

Hey Lou, if you start reprinting joke obituaries like this one, I'm going
to have to question all your obituaries.
Smithee was the answer to a recent question on "Who wants to be a
millionaire?" Unfortunately, the contestant - finally a woman who was
starting to win real money - tried to be logical and guessed the name wit=
h
"McGuffin" in it when asked "What is the name that appears on the credits
when directors take their names off a film?"



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Date: 15 Feb 2000 15:02:23 EST



In a message dated 2/15/0 2:52:06 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Imagine...Astroslut in
>the same town JFK was born...

Hey Janey, he started the Space Program, and he DID have an eye for the
ladies. What goes around cums around ya know?   JB ;--)~


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Subject: (exotica) Tina Louise vinyl queries
Date: 15 Feb 2000 13:56:42 PST


hello,
   Anyone know which label she released her lp on, (I think she had a single
on United Artists).
  Also, save for a miracle at Salvation Army, how much do you expect/suggest
I pay for it?

Thanks
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Subject: (exotica) Hoku Ho (aka Don Ho: The Next Generation)
Date: 15 Feb 2000 17:00:36 -0500


http://www.donho.com/hoku.html

Why did I just pick up the SnowDay soundtrack CD? I've got a 9 year
old daughter, that's why! (Also one of her classmates, Zena, is in the flick)
So let's not get sidetracked about this, OK?!

Anyway, the lead off cut is by Hoku, Don Ho's daughter! Her tune is
"Another Dumb Blonde." I'm sure that if you're anywhere near any of
those video shows that show the interchangeable Britney/Christina/Mandy
type singer, you'll be sure to see the Hoku video. And then you can
say "She's good but she ain't her Dad!". And nobody will know what
you're talking about...

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:41:36 -0800


>I still like "over-the-top" arrangements but now I can hear it in stuff
>with what you might call more "subtle" elements.  The other day I was
>listening to Bert Kaempfert doing "Games People Play" and it started off
>with mostly horns but then suddenly, in come these strings and wordless
>vocals and it was all kind of stupid and unnecessary and I loved it.
>
>I don't know how to advise someone if they want to start liking this stuff
>too.  With me, I think a lot of it came from having a friend who loved it
>and watching him react to stuff I once would have passed over.

I didn't have to acquire a taste for such music as it was played to me as
a very young child at home.  So, I grew up loving the concert music and
tv soundtracks of Henry Mancini (and the work of Leroy Anderson as well)
the way my schoolmates loved the Beatles and the Beach Boys, and it
seemed very natural to me--not forced by any means.  Then in 1966, a
different kind of music from our neighbors to the south started to really
move me, and my likes expanded to include it as well.  Little did I
realize what influence both were to have on me as an adult.  Instead of
interest waning, it has only intensified in recent years.

>That and the fact that you can still find lots of it cheap.

Heh.  Not me.  I never found one Mancini (or Wanderley) LP in a thrift
store, only in used record stores.  And the area where I live is
populated by LOTS of thrift stores:  several Goodwill stores, and at
least one Value Village, Salvation Army, St. Vincent de Paul, etc., etc.

Regards,
--bj
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Kahunas! (Barbarella)
Date: 15 Feb 2000 17:48:35 -0500


George Hall wrote:
>
>                 >Best soundtrack (new or re-release):
>                 >Bob Crewe - Barbarella
>
> Is this the vinyl reissue-of-questionable-origin or a CD?

It's available in both formats - Dusty Groove usually has them in
stock.  The vinyl (which I have) isn't much different from the CD
quality, from what I've heard - mine doesn't skip, but the sound is
pretty mediocre.  Given the choice, I'd have bought the CD, but it
wasn't available last year when I bought the LP.  Although the LP is red
vinyl, which is fun... And they're both of "questionable origin".

cheryl


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kahunas! (Barbarella)
Date: 15 Feb 2000 14:57:56 -0800 (PST)


I would say the best deal for Barbareela for a long time has been at
http://www.jackdiamond.com  Jack has  it paired with Jimmie Haskel's "Countdown"
another great album.   The sound quality is as good as the other  solo cd release
so its worth the extra 4 bucks to get it from Jack with Jimmie Haskel's lp on it.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re:  (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 17:20:29 -0500


At 2:27 PM 2/15/0, [e-mail] wrote:
>We've all been busy, haven't we!  Last but not least, let's not forget the
>early 7T's soul tracks by artists attracted to the sitar: several by The
Stylistics,....more, but I can't think off the top of my head...JB

Delphonics, Jimmy Bee, Delphonics, more of the Philly Soul sound. I wonder
if future Stylistic Thomas Bell got Delphonics to use that sound in their
arrangments. The CD booklet says that's guitar not sitar on Didn't I Blow
Your Mind This Time, Over & Over Again, and the minor hit, Delphonics
Theme.

Other east-west hybrids:
Mahavishnu John McLauglin, My Goal Beyond
Wonderwall Music, George Harrison, nicely psychedelic

More contemporary stuff: Najma.

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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: louis louis
Date: 16 Feb 2000 00:50:39 +0000


> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:53:28 -0500
> From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Louis Louis???
>
> Sort of a silly question, but when these questions pop into one's head,
> they don't go away...
> Did Louis Prima ever record a version of "Louie Louie"?

Unfortunately no, he didn't (he did "Route 66", though). Neither did
it Louis Jordan nor Louis Armstrong.
But Mongo Santamaria did a great version, if we're talkin' exotic.
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Subject:  (exotica) For fans of the like...
Date: 15 Feb 2000 19:22:18 EST



In a message dated 2/15/0 6:05:58 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Delphonics, Jimmy Bee, Delphonics, more of the Philly Soul sound. I wonder
>if future Stylistic Thomas Bell got Delphonics to use that sound in their
>arrangments. The CD booklet says that's guitar not sitar on Didn't I Blow
>Your Mind This Time, Over & Over Again, and the minor hit, Delphonics Theme

Thom Bell and Linda Creed, Gamble & Huff, Vince Montana, Bobby Eli...don't
get me started because honey you are speaking to Mr. Philly Soul!  You are
correct about the sitar sound in the Delfonics without no doubt. As a Philly
Soul compleatist for the banner years 1968 through 1979 and owner of many
many "rootsy" Philly 45's from '64 through '67, I should really go through my
stuff to select the sitar based instrumentation within the songs (which
REALLY are all about vocal harmonies and pyrotechnics with the sitar-sound
used more than likely to attain a contemproary sound). Exotic soul is what
Philly was about in the day: cascading strings, glockenspiels, exotic
percussive F/X, jazz-based, but NOT jazz-bo arrangements and a whole lotta
soul. Check it out exoticats and kittens and thanks for bringing it up Mimi.
....JB/would be willing to make the ultimate Philly Soul collection recording
for our digest-based CD-R executives to run off for all of us if there is any
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Subject: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes
Date: 15 Feb 2000 19:25:54 EST


I got the Piero Piccioni 12" remixes of "Mr. Dante Fontana", "Esculapio" and
one other one from Dusty Groove. A question to the fellas from the Boot (DJ
Batman, Gionni Paludi): Are there any other Italiano 12" vinyl remixes worth
getting? These are really mind-blowingly fabulous and I want more!...Thanks
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From: Fish Wich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Philadelphia record stores
Date: 15 Feb 2000 19:23:40 -0800 (PST)


Can anyone recommend some good places to get records
in Philly?  Thanks a lot.

regards,

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Philadelphia record stores
Date: 15 Feb 2000 20:25:58 -0800


>Can anyone recommend some good places to get records
>in Philly?  Thanks a lot.

Wow, this thread is starting to make me feel homesick now!!!  Of course,
with twenty years of living away from there, I don't have any
recommendations for you, fish wich, but I can tell you where I USED to
shop all the time:  Sam Goody's downtown.  Alas, back then it was not the
ubiquitous small mall chain store that it is now, but a REAL record
store.  Two stories high.  I bought all my original jazz and latin albums
there in the early 1970s, many of which I still have.  Another place I
used to like to buy records was the classic John Wanamaker store right
near it (also no longer JW's).  They had a good record section where I
bought my still haves Ray Conniff and David Rose Xmas LPs, among others.
And I also frequented at least two of Philly's Record Museums.  Have no
idea whether that chain still exists or not.  But the downtown Sam Goody
was THE BEST.  Bought all my Mancini and Wanderley LPs there too.  What
memories.

Wish I could go back in time, go there, and fill in the rest of my
collection!!!!!!  I passed up buying then what I need now (how many of us
have muttered that phrase?!)....

Regards,
--bj
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Their Moai, Our Moai, My Moai
Date: 15 Feb 2000 21:21:12 -0800


Nova tonight went to Easter Island (Rapa Nui).

Very interesting, hope you caught it.  The website is quite good as well...
first time I ever saw a map of the place:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/easter/

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
http://www.hubris.net/zolac
The Mr. Smooth site: http://www.hubris.net/zolac/smooth


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 07:20:36 -0500


Groovemaster Jimmy Bee scrawls:
>Thom Bell and Linda Creed, Gamble & Huff, Vince Montana, Bobby Eli...don't
>get me started because honey you are speaking to Mr. Philly Soul!

I thought so...that's why I was surprised when you didn't bring up
Delphonics. Figured all you needed was a nudge.

Great description of the Philly sound, too:
>stuff to select the sitar based instrumentation within the songs (which
>REALLY are all about vocal harmonies and pyrotechnics with the sitar-sound
>used more than likely to attain a contemporary sound). Exotic soul is what
>Philly was about in the day: cascading strings, glockenspiels, exotic
>percussive F/X, jazz-based, but NOT jazz-bo arrangements and a whole lotta
>soul.

And profoundly mushy lyrics.


>....JB/would be willing to make the ultimate Philly Soul collection recordi=
ng
>for our digest-based CD-R executives to run off for all of us if there is a=
ny
>interest

Ooh ooh! How could I encourage this?

You know one of the greatest things about living in Motown all those years
was near total-immersion in soul--odd for a suburban white girl. I've loved
this music for a long time and would be delighted to sit at your feet, o
master, and learn more.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: Kahunas! (Barbarella)
Date: 16 Feb 2000 09:00:43 EST


In a message dated 2/15/00 5:49:26 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< It's available in both formats - Dusty Groove usually has them in
 stock.  The vinyl (which I have) isn't much different from the CD
 quality, from what I've heard - mine doesn't skip, but the sound is
 pretty mediocre.  Given the choice, I'd have bought the CD, but it
 wasn't available last year when I bought the LP.  Although the LP is red
 vinyl, which is fun... And they're both of "questionable origin".
  >>


I bought the CD and it is a much noisier pressing than the vinyl i have. The
bootleggers could have come across a better pressing without all the surface
noise. A bootleg like this should never have been considered let alone won an
award even one which only this list will know like the kahunas.

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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes
Date: 16 Feb 2000 15:05:22 +0100


>I got the Piero Piccioni 12" remixes of "Mr. Dante Fontana", "Esculapio" and
>one other one from Dusty Groove. A question to the fellas from the Boot (DJ
>Batman, Gionni Paludi): Are there any other Italiano 12" vinyl remixes worth
>getting? These are really mind-blowingly fabulous and I want more!...Thanks
>in advance...J. Botticelli

Right tempo used to do a series of remixed 7"... a bit bit expensive but I
remember extremely weird versions of Mah na' Mah na' by Umiliani with
spacey synth sounds and a sort of neapolitan folk song on the b-side
(urgh)... I think there is a cd collection of Umiliani remixes but I have
to admit I don't know much about it...
There is some kind of remix vinyl in the works from a label I work with but
things are still in the early stage so I am forced to remain in silence for
a while... ;)

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 16 Feb 2000 09:16:44 -0500


<<Heh.  Not me.  I never found one Mancini (or Wanderley) LP in a =
thrift=20
store, only in used record stores.>>

Damn.  I remain silent no more.

You can "never say never" when it comes to thrifting records at the =
GoodWill or whatever.

I live in Baltimore, crawling with Gen X asswipes and other trendy bores - =
yet I manage to find Wanderley's "Rainforest" and a slew of Mancini =
albums.  Also Denny, Lyman, Stereo Action stuff, etc.  Also tikis, Buomi =
temple mugs, etc.

Just shut up and look!

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From: <Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Amsterdam recommendations?
Date: 16 Feb 2000 14:37:23 +0000


Can any listees familiar with the city recommend shopping sites - shops and
markets for old records, furniture, general second hand goods, etc. And I
know its of topic but how about clubs which specialise in trance/euro.

Thanks all



Charlie


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: louis louis
Date: 16 Feb 2000 06:51:51 PST



> > Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:53:28 -0500
> > From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
> > Subject: (exotica) Louis Louis???
> >
> > Sort of a silly question, but when these questions pop into one's head,
> > they don't go away...
> > Did Louis Prima ever record a version of "Louie Louie"?
>
>Unfortunately no, he didn't (he did "Route 66", though). Neither did
>it Louis Jordan nor Louis Armstrong.
>But Mongo Santamaria did a great version, if we're talkin' exotic.
>Ciao
>gionni gionni


and dont forget the wonderfully erotic, if not incredibly strange, version
by Julie London from "Yummy Yummy Yummy"

ooh la la

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes
Date: 16 Feb 2000 10:56:36 -0500


Not vinyl, but there are two remix CDs on Right Tempo:  One is "Mah Na
Mah Na: The Complete Remix Project", with remixes by the likes of Gak
Sato, Raphael Sebbag and Karminsky Experience.  Then there's "Sessomatto
Experience" - same concept, mainly the same artists too.  Both
recommended.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Collectors and accummulators
Date: 16 Feb 2000 07:58:30 -0800


><<Heh.  Not me.  I never found one Mancini (or Wanderley) LP in a thrift
>store, only in used record stores.>>
>
>Damn.  I remain silent no more.

>You can "never say never" when it comes to thrifting records at the
>GoodWill or whatever.

You completely misread/misinterpreted what I said.  I didn't say I will
never find any, I said that I have never found any YET, in all my years
of thrifting.  You apparently have found at least some of the LPs you
were looking for by visiting thrift shops; I have not.

>I live in Baltimore, crawling with Gen X asswipes and other trendy bores -
>yet I manage to find Wanderley's "Rainforest" and a slew of Mancini
>albums.  Also Denny, Lyman, Stereo Action stuff, etc.  Also tikis, Buomi
>temple mugs, etc.
>
>Just shut up and look!

That sentence was rude and unnecessary.  FYI, I visit my local thrift
stores here on a VERY regular basis and I stand by what I said above as
being MY experience.  I am not in Baltimore (where the population is much
greater in number, thereby making collectibles generally more available),
I'm on the west coast in a small city.  And I was not just talking about
U.S. WW releases either.  I'm talking about the MUCH harder to find Odeon
Brasil releases!  Since 'Rain Forest' went platinum in 1970, there are
about a bazillion copies of THAT LP around, not including the
still-in-print U.S. Verve CD.

You find an Odeon Brasil Wanderley release in a thrift store--you be sure
to let us know...

Regards,
--bj
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From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 13:01:16 -0500



All that Sitar stuff was actually electric sitar (see also the Spinners), &
I think all recorded at Sigma Sound-either one of the guitarists in the
house band had one or Thom Bell made them play it. Reggie Young at American
Studios in Memphis had one & used it pretty regularly too (Dusty in Memphis'
"Land of Make Believe," Elvis, etc). Conceptually not so "East/West," but
added for the Exotic Touch.
& speaking of E/W, there's also a couple Cal Tjaders; "Several Shades of
Jade" from '63 or '64 has some pretty cool stuff & has been reissued w/its
followup "Breeze from the East." While "Breeze" is considerably kitchier,
with cheesy go-go arrangements under fake oriental schtick, it remains a
great lp for those of us who choose to lovingly embrace these qualities as
well. See also Dave Brubeck's "Jazz Sounds from the Far East." I think
that's the title...
  gh

        [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>  wrote:

        At 2:27 PM 2/15/0, [e-mail]
<mailto:[e-mail]>  wrote:
            >We've all been busy, haven't we!  Last but not
least, let's not forget the
            >early 7T's soul tracks by artists attracted to the
sitar: several by The
        Stylistics,....more, but I can't think off the top of my
head...JB
        Delphonics, Jimmy Bee, Delphonics, more of the Philly Soul
sound. I wonder if future Stylistic Thomas Bell got Delphonics to use that
sound in their arrangments. The CD booklet says that's guitar not sitar on
Didn't I Blow Your Mind This Time, Over & Over Again, and the minor hit,
Delphonics Theme.
        Other east-west hybrids:
        Mahavishnu John McLauglin, My Goal Beyond
        Wonderwall Music, George Harrison, nicely psychedelic
        More contemporary stuff: Najma.
        Mimi




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Subject: (exotica) My Lover, The Record Collector
Date: 16 Feb 2000 13:14:10 -0500


http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~tewing/collect.html



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Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 12:26:26 -0600




George Hall wrote:
>
> All that Sitar stuff was actually electric sitar (see also the Spinners), &
> I think all recorded at Sigma Sound-either one of the guitarists in the
> house band had one or Thom Bell made them play it. Reggie Young at American
> Studios in Memphis had one & used it pretty regularly too (Dusty in Memphis'
> "Land of Make Believe," Elvis, etc). Conceptually not so "East/West," but
> added for the Exotic Touch.
>

Pardon my layperson's ignorance (I play, but I don't
use any gizmos), but I seem to recall
reading somewhere that a lot of those old soul
records used some sort of device that created a
sitar-like effect with the guitar.  You can kind
of tell, because the end result is like blurred sitar.
But perhaps I imagined it all.


--

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Subject: (exotica) [obits] Dean Davenport,John C. Kuehne,William Oliver Swofford,Ervin Litkei,Harry William Prichett Sr.
Date: 16 Feb 2000 13:32:45 -0500


    PANAMA CITY, Fla. (AP) -- Retired Air Force Col. Dean Davenport,
co-pilot of the bomber ``Ruptured Duck'' during the daring
Doolittle Raid on Japan early in World War II, died Monday. He was
81.
    Lt. Ted W. Lawson, Davenport's pilot, wrote a book about the
Doolittle Raid titled ``Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo.'' Davenport
served as technical adviser when the book was made into a movie
starring Spencer Tracy as Gen. James ``Jimmy'' Doolittle.
----------
                           *John C. Kuehne
    ROCKPORT, Texas (AP) -- John C. Kuehne, who played music with The
Monkees, Linda Ronstadt and James Taylor, died Saturday. He was 58.
    The cause of death was not released.
    An accomplished bass player, he attended San Antonio College and
won musical competitions along with Michael Nesmith.
    When Nesmith was chosen for a starring role with The Monkees, a
1960s television sitcom about a pop music group, Kuehne became a
backstage player with the show. Under the stage name John London,
Kuehne did musical work with the group and played small roles in
some episodes.
    He later was a studio musician for Ronstadt, Taylor and others.
Kuehne left California and returned to San Antonio in the early
1970s.
    Kuehne worked in advertising sales for both the San Antonio
Express-News and the San Antonio Light. After the Light closed in
1993, Kuehne and his family moved to the Gulf Coast, where he
joined the Corpus Christi Caller-Times.
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:11:23|PM&p=amg&sql=B99253
------
                      *William Oliver Swofford
    SHREVEPORT, La. (AP) -- William Oliver Swofford, a singer who
under the stage name Oliver had late-'60s hits with the songs
``Good Morning, Starshine'' and ``Jean,'' died Saturday of cancer.
He was 54.
    In 1969, his recording of ``Starshine,'' from the Broadway
musical ``Hair,'' climbed to No. 3 on the pop charts and the ballad
``Jean'' reached No. 2.
    He toured throughout the 1970s, then left the music business in
the 1980s and worked in the home-construction and pharmaceutical
industries.

Fliddy gloop gloopy, nibby nobby nooby, la la la lo lo.
Shamma shimmy shaman, nooby abba dabban, lee lee lo lo.
Dooby ooby wadda, nooby abba dabba, early mornin' singin' song.
[and then later]
Song song song si-i-ing sing sing sing song.
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:11:23|PM&p=amg&sql=B25314
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                           *Ervin Litkei
    NEW YORK (AP) -- Ervin Litkei, who composed marches dedicated to
every U.S. president since Franklin D. Roosevelt, died Feb. 8. He
was 78.
    Litkei, who came to the United States from Hungary in 1948,
composed several marches -- including ``The President Lyndon Baines
Johnson March'' and ``The George Bush March'' -- that were played at
presidential inaugural ceremonies.
    For the current president's inauguration, he composed both ``The
President Bill Clinton March'' and ``A Salute to the First Lady
March,'' apparently the first march composed for a first lady.
    A music business executive who owned several companies, Litkei
also wrote large orchestral scores, including ``Peace and
Remembrance'' and ``The Atlantic and Pacific Suite.'' In addition,
he wrote the soundtracks for several films and television
productions.
    Litkei composed his first tribute to a U.S. president, ``The
Franklin D. Roosevelt March,'' while still living in Hungary, where
he studied at the Music Conservatory.
http://thenewage.com/cg/x.dll?UID=1:17:55|PM&p=acg&sql=1:63537~W#WORKS
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-e-litkei.html
---------
                        *Harry W. Prichett Sr.
    NEW YORK (AP) -- Harry William Prichett Sr., a graphic artist and
creator of the interactive television program ``Winky Dink and
You,'' died Feb. 5. He was 79.
    The program, which initially aired in 1954, was television's
first attempt at interactive broadcasting, and spawned from
Prichett's idea of turning the TV set into a toy and teaching aid
for children. The title character Winky would embark on adventures
with his dog, Woofer. Winky usually ran into trouble and asked
children to draw something on the screen, like a bridge over a
river.
    The program ran for four years on CBS.
    The show returned, with 65 color cartoons, and ran in
syndication from 1969 to 1973. It was revived again in the 1990s as
a video kit featuring newly digitized cartoons and new hosts.
    The original ``Winky Dink'' also came with a kit containing a
thin transparent ``Magic Screen,'' which could be stuck on the TV
set screen, along with crayons and a wipe-away cloth.
    The show was so popular that it was broadcast on Saturdays and
Sundays, and, at its peak, drew some 25,000 letters a week from
viewers asking to buy the 50-cent ``Magic Kits.''
http://nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-h-prichett.html
http://www2.wi.net/~rkurer/winky.htm
http://alltheweb.com/cgi-bin/asearch?type=all&query=%22winky+dink%22
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Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 18:44:45 +0000


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Pardon my layperson's ignorance (I play, but I don't
> use any gizmos), but I seem to recall
> reading somewhere that a lot of those old soul
> records used some sort of device that created a
> sitar-like effect with the guitar.  You can kind
> of tell, because the end result is like blurred sitar.
> But perhaps I imagined it all.

This is a guess, but the 'sitar' on those tracks is normally one note at
a time, whereas sitars tend to have the other strings vibrating in
sympathy at times.

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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 14:04:46 -0500


At 07:20 AM 2/16/00 -0500, Mimi Mayer wrote:
>
>You know one of the greatest things about living in Motown all those years
>was near total-immersion in soul--odd for a suburban white girl.

I'm sure you don't think it was that odd.  Or maybe you do.
It suddenly occurred to me that maybe my perspective on this is a
particularly Canadian one, in that most of the music we heard came from
somewhere else.  Or maybe it had something to do with a somewhat less overt
"racial divide".
(Not to claim that Canada is a less "racist" society.  Just that, like many
things, we don't talk about it.)
But to me, especially in the period you're referring to, it was all pop
music and except in extreme cases - like Wilson Pickett versus Herman's
Hermits - I couldn't even tell what was black and what was white.
Either way though, I didn't care.  When people said that the Stones and the
Animals were influenced by R&B and blues, which was supposedly "black"
music, it was like "yeah whatever".
Motown was obviously huge here but so was Stax.  I recognized that Stax was
a somewhat "tougher" sound but the distinction was no different than the
fact that the Stones were tougher than the Beatles.  I preferred the Stones
but I never thought "oh that means I prefer black music".

That changed.  I eventually became more aware in all kinds of ways.  But to
some degree, I'm glad for that original "naivete".  Now I might refer to
something occasionally as "blacker" or "whiter" but basically, it's still
all pop music to me.

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From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 18:58:16 -0000


does anyone on this list like lionel ritchie, celine dion, or even t'pau, I
think they are all fantastic.


I also think tina's turners new stuff is much better than all of that old
funky mularky.

cheers


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Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 14:44:31 -0500


At 1:26 PM -0500 2/16/00, [e-mail] wrote:

>Pardon my layperson's ignorance (I play, but I don't
>use any gizmos), but I seem to recall
>reading somewhere that a lot of those old soul
>records used some sort of device that created a
>sitar-like effect with the guitar.  You can kind
>of tell, because the end result is like blurred sitar.
>But perhaps I imagined it all.

They used a Danelectro Electric Sitar, which had 6 strings like a regular
guitar, but had another 40 or so resonating strings at the top of the
instrument. I believe they also used some special light gage string. The
instruments are currently made by the Jerry Jones Co of Nashville TN.

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Subject: (exotica) electric sitar
Date: 16 Feb 2000 14:54:48 -0500


http://shibuya.cool.ne.jp/teht/guitar/sitar.html

And the JJ/ES is one cool lookin' instrument (but must be a bitch to tune!).

-Lou

http://harmonycentral.com/Guitar/Data4/Jerry_Jones/Electric-Sitar-01.html

http://210.248.229.130/music/gtr015/

Oh, and someone remind me, was that Larry Coryell playing electric
sitar on Don Sebesky's Distant Galaxy?



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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 14:57:51 -0500


Okay, shouldn't you be on the alt.boringmainstreampopmusic.list :)  I
didn't think we were allowed to mention Celine Dion on this list (which
is the way it should be!!)

cheryl

ark edgar wrote:
>
> does anyone on this list like lionel ritchie, celine dion, or even t'pau, I
> think they are all fantastic.
>
> I also think tina's turners new stuff is much better than all of that old
> funky mularky.
>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Exotic/Indian/Psychedelic/Luke Vibert & BJ Cole
Date: 16 Feb 2000 21:35:41 +0100 (MET)


There is a new Album out:

LUKE VIBERT uk trip hop artist  / BJ COLE steel guitarist leegend
 –STOP THE PANIC  on Cooking Vinyl

that contains a unbelievable great monster exotic indian space psychedelic
track CHENG PHOOEY
with a danceable electro rythm.
the track FLY HAWAII is also nice. Trip hop with steel guitar
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotic/Indian/Psychedelic/Luke Vibert & BJ Cole
Date: 16 Feb 2000 15:54:33 -0500


While on the subject, there's another release along these lines:

Untouchable Outcaste Beats, vol. 1 (don't know if there were any further
volumes ever released).  It's on Outcaste records (a division of Tommy
Boy), and they have a web site (which I haven't checked out yet) at:

http://www.outcaste.com

It's got a good mix of old and new on it - Dave Pike Set, Ananda
Shankar, Wolfgang Dauner, and Up Bustle & Out, Pressure Drop, etc...
You can listen to RealAudio clips of it at CDNow, too.  It was released
in 1997, but I just noticed it in local record stores a few months ago.

cheryl


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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 21:08:28 GMT


> From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
>
> They used a Danelectro Electric Sitar, which had 6 strings like a regular
> guitar, but had another 40 or so resonating strings at the top of the
> instrument. I believe they also used some special light gage string. The
> instruments are currently made by the Jerry Jones Co of Nashville TN.
>

The classic is the Coral Sitar:

> Vinnie Bell Coral Sitar.
>
> 1967-1969: about the coolest guitar Danelectro ever produced. Has            > 13 drone strings that move from the vibration of the usual 6 strings.
> Three pickups, 2 for the 6 stings and 1 for the drone strings. Crinkle
> burgundy finish, 3 point body shape. Has a "buzz" bridge which
> similate the sitar sound. The resonation from the buzz bridge vibrates
> the top of the body and the drone strings. Clear pickguards protecting
> the drone strings and Vinnie's name on the lower 6 string clear
> pickguard. Body is made entirely from Poplar, with a semi-hollow
> construction.

The Danelectro Sitar is the "no frills" model:

> Danelectro Sitar.
>
> 1967-1969: not as fancy as the Coral version of the electric sitar. One
> pickup, round body shape, bulb peghead, no drone strings. The lack of
> drone strings make this a far less desirable electric sitar. Solidbody
> Poplar body construction.

[snipped from: http://geocities.com/Hollywood/1375/dano.html]
[also has pictures of both]




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From: "Brian Phillips" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) For fans of the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 16:09:49 -0500


I'm sure you don't think it was that odd.  Or maybe you do.
It suddenly occurred to me that maybe my perspective on this is a
particularly Canadian one, in that most of the music we heard came from
somewhere else.  Or maybe it had something to do with a somewhat less overt
"racial divide".
(Not to claim that Canada is a less "racist" society.  Just that, like many
things, we don't talk about it.)


Well, in the 60's in the US, there were civil rights issues definitely being
brought to the fore and two schools of thought were:

1. Those who would say it's all pop music.
2. Those who saw music in terms of race.

By the end of the 60's and through the seventies, radio got decidedly more
segregated.  I am of the mind that as Rock and Roll became more pervasive
and dominant, genres became more defined, for better or worse.  In the
fifties, it seems that it was all anyone could do to get Rock and Roll
records, so color was less of an issue in that regard.  In cold, hard
commercial terms, if the kids want that rock and roll beat, who cared
whether it was Fats Domino or Georgia Gibbs?

To be certain, there has always been a racial (and moral) issue as well.  If
we are to take the example of Motown from Mimi's post, remember their slogan
was, "The Sound of Young America".  One could argue that they did quite a
lot to make sure that they included as many young Americans as possible and
thereby watered down their sound in some cases to make the "crossover" (the
Soul label housed many of the exceptions).  Berry Gordy, in his memoirs,
mentioned that he rather enjoyed Jazz, but when he had a record store,
people wanted Blues and he stopped trying to "educate" his customers and
cater to their tastes.

If you are African-American (I am), the success of Motown means quite a lot
to me, in terms of inroads to racial unity and good music.  Time has oddly
segregated pop music over time, in other ways, so, having sat through all
that blather, yes, it may indeed a big deal to have Mimi's tastes!  I find
Nat's take quite interesting.

As to the post about Tina Turner's music, to each their own, I suppose.  I
would rather not have an aspect of my cultural heritage cast off as "funky
malarkey", however.  Especially during Black History Month.  It seems that
both musical lists I am on have given me promptings of conscience to speak
on racial issues and I would rather leave that out, if possible.  I'm here
to talk about Exotica music but I am also here to wade in the shallow end of
the pool before diving in on certain topics (i.e. I gladly take me ease when
say, Br. Cleve posts).

If you don't like Ms. Turner's earlier music, you don't like it and that's
fine.  I will keep my loathing of Ray Conniff's music to myself (uh oh...),
but I noticed that even he had played Trombone on a Cozy Cole 78 that I have
and that there very well may be better stuff than what I have heard.  So
keep an open mind (I came in to the list with a big bias against Martin
Denny.  I had some pre-internet friends who were die-hard Les Baxter fans
and poo-poohed Denny!  I now own 4 Dennys.  Take THAT John and Dan!) and
let's all be nice to each other on the list.

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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes
Date: 16 Feb 2000 23:00:39 +0000


> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:25:54 EST
> From: [e-mail]
> Subject: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes
>
> I got the Piero Piccioni 12" remixes of "Mr. Dante Fontana", "Esculapio" and
> one other one from Dusty Groove. A question to the fellas from the Boot (DJ
> Batman, Gionni Paludi): Are there any other Italiano 12" vinyl remixes worth
> getting? These are really mind-blowingly fabulous and I want more!...Thanks
> in advance...J. Botticelli

Apart from that (you can catch the original un-remixed version as
track 1 on "Beat At Cinecitta', vol. 2"), I would absolutely
(and I mean it) recommend to get the Piero Piccioni "O rugido do
leao" 12", featuring original version and 4 remixes (the
"Batucadalbertone" mix, the "Brazilian Beat", the "Tanimoody" mix,
and the "Soulbeat Lion" mix). It's out on "Studio Uno" label.
Other highly recommended item, on same label: "W la felicita'
(english version)" by Franco Godi, with 2 remixes; the original
italian language edit is on Studio Uno's "Third Millennium"
compilation.
Also there's Berto Pisano "Kill! (Kill them all)" 12", with 2
remixes (again on S.U.), but I don't like it that much: early
70's heavy orgiastic funk, instead of 6T's easy poppiness. But that's
just my bag; you can also find different remixes of "KIll!" on a
Right Tempo 12". The Studio Uno man (Paolo Scotti) is an offshoot of
Right Tempo, and seems like that they parted participation to join
competition. I've talked to Paolo few days ago, and he told that he's
now working on a remix of a certain Chet Baker tune.
Ciao
Gionni Paludi


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From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) electric sitar
Date: 16 Feb 2000 22:25:35 -0000


apparently it wasLarry coryell who played sitar on GURU VIN what a groovy
track, and the rest of the LP is not too bad either.

Tell me did Don Sebesky do anything else that is worth buying, I have only
managed to get a copy of the distant galaxy.

and it really is v v good

cheers

ronnie





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From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) RE: For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 16 Feb 2000 22:32:36 -0000


Tongue in cheek I hope that is said Cheryl.

Celine truly is "Exotica" in it's finest form, exotica is "Incredibly
Strange Music" after all, and what could be stranger than people actually
buying (or wanting to buy)  Celine Dion, Lionel Ritchie (although one or two
Commdores tunes were quite good), and at the very worst T'pau I dont know if
they made it big in the states but they sure were over here, and man they
were SHIT .

I would prefer to have my toes nailed to the floor than listen to that.

Cheers

Ronnie



>
> Okay, shouldn't you be on the alt.boringmainstreampopmusic.list :)  I
> didn't think we were allowed to mention Celine Dion on this list (which
> is the way it should be!!)
>
> cheryl
>
> ark edgar wrote:
> >
> > does anyone on this list like lionel ritchie, celine dion, or even
t'pau, I
> > think they are all fantastic.
> >




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes
Date: 16 Feb 2000 22:39:14 -0000


The Jazzanova Remix of Balancos version of Metti, Una Sera A Cena, by Ennio
M ------Superb

Very chilled.


Cheers

Ronnie



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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes
Date: 16 Feb 2000 19:24:11 EST



In a message dated 2/16/0 4:55:34 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Apart from that (you can catch the original un-remixed version as
>track 1 on "Beat At Cinecitta', vol. 2"), I would absolutely
>(and I mean it) recommend to get the Piero Piccioni "O rugido do
>leao" 12", featuring original version and 4 remixes (the
>"Batucadalbertone" mix, the "Brazilian Beat", the "Tanimoody" mix,
>and the "Soulbeat Lion" mix). It's out on "Studio Uno" label.

I couldn't agree more as this is the third and best title I picked up in the
series
>Other highly recommended item, on same label: "W la felicita'
>(english version)" by Franco Godi, with 2 remixes; the original
>italian language edit is on Studio Uno's "Third Millennium"
>compilation.

How does one go about obtaining them?

>Also there's Berto Pisano "Kill! (Kill them all)" 12", with 2
>remixes (again on S.U.), but I don't like it that much: early
>70's heavy orgiastic funk, instead of 6T's easy poppiness. But that's
>just my bag;

I know what you mean, besides its a very vocal tune and I like the more
instro approach.

>you can also find different remixes of "KIll!" on a
>Right Tempo 12".

I need a way to get them as well

The Studio Uno man (Paolo Scotti) is an offshoot of
>Right Tempo, and seems like that they parted participation to join
>competition. I've talked to Paolo few days ago, and he told that he's
>now working on a remix of a certain Chet Baker tune.

Scotti's work is brilliant and very now. How does one e-mail the fellow??
Thanks Gionni...JB


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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) electric sitar
Date: 16 Feb 2000 19:26:57 EST



In a message dated 2/16/0 5:27:17 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Tell me did Don Sebesky do anything else that is worth buying

This may not be for everyone, but I like his fuzak-ky version of the standard
"Skyliner" on a later (1975) CTI LP called "The Rape of El Morro". It
features a great glossy cover with two muddied up nude models in a trash can
in fetal position. Its great e-z disco and a real hum-a-longer...JB


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From: "Steve Sando" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MisterLUCKY*GRAM February 2000
Date: 16 Feb 2000 11:08:39 -0800


MisterLUCKY*GRAM February 2000
>From MisterLUCKY, Your Musical Communiqu=E9
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1. The Big News: Win a CD
Seasoned jazz vets Barbara Lea and Keith Ingham have recorded a really
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e
contest to win this new CD. A random drawing will be held on March 15, 20=
00.
Five winners will receive copies. How lucky can you get?
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2. New Reviews: Make Mine Hoagy
We jump on the centenary bandwagon and look at some recent Hoagy Carmicha=
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collections. We also let you in on a fun new Brazilian CD and a classic f=
rom
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http://www.mrlucky.com/html/music/rev27.html

3. Previous Reviews: Did you miss these?
We haven't sent out a MisterLUCKY*GRAM for awhile so you may have missed
these reviews:

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http://www.mrlucky.com/html/music/rev26.html

Contemporary Brazil, Peggy Lee and Aretha's really dreadful book:
http://www.mrlucky.com/html/music/rev25.html


4. Great Britain, Indeed: Pink Gin
For boozing it up, we indulge in an old favorite: Pink Gin. Not for sissi=
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From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) For fans of Anandar Shankar and the like...
Date: 17 Feb 2000 12:29:29 +1100


on 16/2/00 6:27 AM, [e-mail] at [e-mail] wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 2/14/0 10:09:32 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>> At 01:38 PM 2/14/00 EST, [e-mail] wrote:
>>> In a message dated 2/13/0 5:54:11 PM, [e-mail]
> wrote:
>>>> Anyone got any recommendations for more East/West crossover albums?
>
"Electric Bath" by Don Ellis - sitar and quarter tone trumpets! A track
turning up on the exotica ring when I get this CD burner to talk to my Mac
reliably.

Philip

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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Thrift Gets Shrift
Date: 17 Feb 2000 14:21:25 +1100


>>Damn.  I remain silent no more.

>>You can "never say never" when it comes to thrifting records at the =
>>GoodWill or whatever.

>>I live in Baltimore, crawling with Gen X asswipes and other trendy bores - =
>>yet I manage to find Wanderley's "Rainforest" and a slew of Mancini =
>>albums.  Also Denny, Lyman, Stereo Action stuff, etc.  Also tikis, Buomi =
>>temple mugs, etc.

>>Just shut up and look!

I couldn't concur more heartily, Nate!  When the 'Mancini can never be found
in thrift stores' thing was posted, I had a mouth-ajar laugh, as I have been
in thrift stores that had so much Mancini (not to mention Denny-type
exotica) stuff that I was pushing it aside to get to other things!  And
within the last year.  I believe it's really a regional thing.  In
Pittsburgh, there were tons of treats to be had for anyone with a few hours
to browse.  I happened on a 1959 RCA Synth record, Hugo Montenegro jems,
Frank Comstock's 'Project Comstock: Music from Outer Space,'  Ferrante &
Teicher prepared piano lp's, moog records galore, you name it.

It's OK that so many on this list feel they're no good to browse
through..that's what must keep them stocked with good stuff!

Lots of older folks go into nursing homes and dump huge record
collections...and those on the inside of these places often have no interest
in what I may be hungry for.  All this adds up to a thrilling adventure.
Not to say I always strike paydirt, but I'm surprised by how often I stumble
on real discoveries.

Now, as far as the Australian thrift store scene (called Op-Shops here), I
have yet to report....

Keith

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From: "Chuck Collazzi" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: For fans on Anand
Date: 17 Feb 2000 00:30:48 -0500


> From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
>
> They used a Danelectro Electric Sitar, which had 6 strings like a regular
> guitar, but had another 40 or so resonating strings at the top of the
> instrument. I believe they also used some special light gage string. The
> instruments are currently made by the Jerry Jones Co of Nashville TN.
>

It buzzes like a guitar whose neck was set up wrong, but it really sounds
sorta like a sitar!, sounds great & fun to play (exactly like playing a
guitar).
I played one of these pups in the pit orch. of the show "Timbuktu" (remake
of "Kismet") at the Pantages Theater in Hollywood back in the late 70's -
Eartha Kitt starred - she was phenomenal.  Terrific show--see it at all
costs if it ever comes back.  It's nonstop exotica.

Regards,
Chuck Collazzi
[e-mail]
http://www.chucktfrog.com

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Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #628
Date: 16 Feb 2000 21:55:24


On Tue, 15 Feb 00 20:25:58 -0800, "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>Wow, this thread is starting to make me feel homesick now!!!  Of course,
with twenty years of living away from there, I don't have any
recommendations for you, fish wich, but I can tell you where I USED to
shop all the time:  Sam Goody's downtown.  Alas, back then it was not the
ubiquitous small mall chain store that it is now, but a REAL record
store.  Two stories high.  I bought all my original jazz and latin albums
there in the early 1970s, many of which I still have.  Another place I
used to like to buy records was the classic John Wanamaker store right
near it (also no longer JW's).  They had a good record section where I
bought my still haves Ray Conniff and David Rose Xmas LPs, among others.
And I also frequented at least two of Philly's Record Museums.  Have no
idea whether that chain still exists or not.  But the downtown Sam Goody
was THE BEST

Sorry, but ALL of those places are gone! Jerry Green's Record Museum lives
on in a form, as the Collectibles label (aka Gotham Distribution).

There are a good amount of used and hipster stores in Center City these
days though, too many to list. Find a yellow pages when you get here, and
be sure to check out the 6 or 7 stores in the South Street area (especially
the two Philadelphia Record Exchanges).

If you want expensive collector 45s, visit Val Shively's in Upper Darby.
Bring a want list because browsing isn't allowed (and expect to be
belittled if they don't like your taste).



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From: Maurizio Mansueti <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) italian e-z beat remixes
Date: 17 Feb 2000 11:15:00 +0100


>I got the Piero Piccioni 12" remixes of "Mr. Dante Fontana",
"Esculapio" and
>one other one from Dusty Groove. A question to the fellas from the Boot
(DJ
>Batman, Gionni Paludi): Are there any other Italiano 12" vinyl remixes
worth
>getting? These are really mind-blowingly fabulous and I want
more!...Thanks
>in advance...J. Botticelli

I can suggest "Il Giaguaro" Italian Magazine and Black Cat Records if
you want to listen some original tracks of Piero Piccioni, Alessandro
Alessandroni and other italian artists.
Il Giaguaro is a periodical publication with a quarterly deadline,
composed of a minimum of 56 color pages, with a centerfold poster and an

audio or video bonus included in each issue.
Our readers are collectors, musicians and artists interested in jazz,
lounge, exotica, soundtracks, b-movies....
In our first number "0" we had a great interview with Alessandro
Alessandroni (one of the best composers of Sergio Leone Spaghetti
Western soundtracks) and an EP of  Ennio Morricone (never published
before!).
In this number "one" issue there is a 7'' vinyl release of the
1966 film, "Fume di Londre" (Smoke of London).
The first movie of  Italian comedian Alberto Sordi and music composed by

the World famous, Piero Piccioni!  An exclusive listening pleasure to
the readers of "Il Giaguaro" are previously unreleased versions of "Mr:
Dante Fontana"  and "Richmond Bridge",  featuring  the chrous group, "I
Cantori Moderni di Alessandro Alessandroni".

Other good vinyl and cd releases are published on Black Cat Records.

Ciao!
Maurizio
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The Marc 4 was responsible for having the greatest, most incredible
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The Marc 4 recorded serveral albums as "I Marc 4" on their label
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The unique sound of "I Marc 4" comes from omnipresent Hammond C3 of
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Key Board has a dreaming flute with the soft Hammond sounds of Mr.
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the mid 60's to the early 70's. In those years the Italian film music
produced the best sound ever and had superior quality productions.
Thanks to composers like Armando Trovajoli, Piero Piccioni, Alessandro
Alessandroni, all selected in this compilation, the Italian film music
found itself in living a second youth, in the scene of Lounge and Easy
Listening music.
More and more DJ's and bands are inspired by this rich discography to
make their sound more creative and different from the rest. In this
compilation ensemble by the 'never stopping' Claudio Fuiano (compiler
and executive producer of a dozen lounge-beat compilations around the
globe) and Al Casey (DJ and editor of the magazine "Il Giaguaro"),
nobody will be disappointed.
Previously unreleased tracks like Humanity and Il Giovane Normale by
Armando Trovajoli, the first one is a real shaker and the second is a
pop-beat track with singing in English. These tracks will take you
straight to the 'Red Carpet' nightclub beneath the ruins of the magic
city called ROMA. It's an album to listen, to dance and to dream to.

Coming Soon
"Fumo di Londra" OST music by Piero Piccioni CD and DLP
"Sonorissima Vol.1 The Italian Library Music Party"

Il Giaguaro & Black Cat Rec.
Alessandro Casella
Via Castruccio Castracane 3
00176 Roma, Italy
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From: <Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift Gets Shrift
Date: 17 Feb 2000 10:49:47 +0000


For me, its a time constraint thing. I work in Central London, no charity
shops for miles and at the weekends I have Saturday to venture out. London
charity shops have almost nothing worth having in them so I'd have to take
a special trip to the suburbs where I generally don't find anything anyway.

However, I have my eye on a Sunday car boot sale in a smart, well-to-do
area of West London and I'm hoping that will turn up the discarded goods of
the middle classes. My local car boot sale in Camberwell (poor and run down
South London) has the most lamentable collection of objects I've ever seen.
Caribbean families selling old socks and broken electrical goods, muslim
and Indian women haggling over faded T-shirts and depressing stalls full of
the least desirable goods I've ever set eyes on.

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From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) accumulector
Date: 17 Feb 2000 11:10:02 -0000


A perspective on the Accumulator/Collector thing that occurred to me as I
was going to sleep last night.  In about '96 I was broke,  been in a job
that paid my rent and travel but that was about it,  living in a new town.
At this time I'd been looking for the Barbarella OST for about 10 years.  I
got a job,  well paid,  nearby.

On my way home from being offered the job I went past the second hand record
shop at the end of the road.  There in the window was a copy of Barbarella.
I was in such a good mood I went home and scrounged up the forty UKPounds it
cost. (ouch, my most expensive purchase).  I bought it.

The guy in the shop said 'there now,  take that home and put it somewhere
safe' - a COLLECTOR.

I took it home and played the fuck out of it.  Taped it for my mates and
occasionally take it out to gigs (that price tag takes some emotional toil).
An ACCUMULATOR.

I want to hear it, not just own it.  Fortunately its a great LP it was
(still is, considering) in good condition, and on that one occasion I don't
mind spending the big money.  Not that I've done it again.....

Just my thoughts on the thing


El Maestro Con Queso

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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Umiliani remixes etc.
Date: 17 Feb 2000 15:56:05 +0100


for those who might be interestedl...

Amazon.co.uk: some Right Tempo releases including the Mah'na Mah'na
remixzes by Umiliani
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/026-3302970-9216264

prices in UKP...


bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) [ot] cd burner/scanner recommendations
Date: 17 Feb 2000 10:05:43 -0500


This came up on another list I'm on. If you have a recommend, please reply
directly to Lata and mantion Mimi from HD sent you. Thanks, Mimi

>From: Lata Narumanchi <[e-mail]>
>i want to buy a burner & scanner for my powermac. does anyone have any
>recommendations? it's going to be for both burning mps on cd as well as
>storing all the photonegatives i need to scan in.
>
>tia,
>have a sparkling day,
>
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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fwd: sci-fi marathon web page message board
Date: 17 Feb 2000 09:30:45 -0800 (PST)


Kids, could somebody say something nice about
Astroslut on this message board
http://www.mv.com/org/sf25  Remember what mother said
about "if you can't say anything nice...."
Thanks!

>Jane, Check this page out and click on message board.
 One
> comment (?) on us and
> we could use more....good ones.  Maybe you can get
> your bomp and exotica
> army (or anyone else) to say some cool stuff about
> us.
> 2000
>
>


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From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Crime Jazz and Cocktail Mix
Date: 17 Feb 2000 09:43:41 -0800


Fans of detective tv shows and films from the late 50s thru early 70s should check out Rhino's two volume set  'Crime Jazz.' I picked up volume two  this weekend and it's brilliant! Now I have to get volume one (so you know I fall into the completist camp!).

Is anyone familiar with Rhino's four volume 'Cocktail Mix' series? I have most of the Ultra Lounge series and would like to know if the Rhino series is comparable or if the material is largely duplicated.

  Thanks!
          ~~Paul


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Subject: (exotica) exotic eskimo chess set on ebay
Date: 17 Feb 2000 14:34:56 -0500


http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=258328943



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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Thrift Gets Shrift
Date: 17 Feb 2000 15:00:23 -0500


At 10:49 AM 2/17/00 +0000,
Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/[e-mail] wrote:
>
>For me, its a time constraint thing. I work in Central London, no charity
>shops for miles and at the weekends I have Saturday to venture out. London
>charity shops have almost nothing worth having in them

I can still remember the feeling of walking into certain thrift shops both
here and in other towns.  Sad places.  Places where a little voice
immediately says "They've got nothing here".
If I hadn't had "success" when I first started going to thrifts - though
admittedly it was success in a genre that was very new and strange to me -
I don't think I would have developed the habit.
If I'd found nothing but Nana Mouskouri, Roger Whittaker and the Knack, I'm
not even sure I'd be on this list.
When I first started looking for this stuff, the thrift stores were
virtually the only place to find it around here.
And even though it's now harder to find some of the more identified artists
AND even though I'm not really looking for "easy listening" records any
more, you can still go out and find something if you're in the mood to hear
something you've never really checked out.
I guess it's not going to last that much longer but people here are still
getting rid of easy listening records.
The people who had them originally are still giving them to thrift stores.
(Or their survivors are.) And now the people who probably bought them at
thrift stores are starting to see that they can sell them for occasionally
decent money at used record stores. So now there are two ways to get em.

What some people are saying here about thrift stores, mimics my experience
with lawn sales. I believe that the lawn/garage sale is actually the best
place to find rare and special records.  And find them cheap.
It probably has something to do with the fact that not all records that go
to the thrift store, make it out into the bins.
I've made a few amazing finds at lawn sales.  I think lawn sales have the
best "potential" for spectacular finds.
But in my case, those finds have been few and far between.  Too few and too
far between.
I've gone to too many sales with no records or with a pile of Blondie or
Dan Seals or name-something-else-I-don't-want, that I've given up on them.
I get a twinge from hearing about the stuff my buddy finds but I don't
care.  Too many days of finding nothing and coming home with an old Life
Magazine because I had to buy something.
So I've given up on lawn sales.
And I don't go to thrift stores as often as I used to.  I have the urge
today, right now, but if anything I'll probably go to a store where they
think everything old is "cool", on the off chance they have something I've
never seen before.

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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) sitariization over the nation
Date: 17 Feb 2000 22:16:48 +0000


All those sitar titles posted recently reminded me of a very fave of
mine: Ravi Harris & the Prophets "Funky Sitar Man" on BBE (Barely
Breaking Even). I first thought t'was a reissue of some geek's lost
tapes, shelved in the vaults in the early 70's and intentionally left
there ever since. I was disappointed when I realised it was, say,
"modern"; I mean, I mostly go vintage with music and that's my
general taste with arts and the beautiful things of life (that
doesn't mean I married an eightysome lady, tho'!). But I discovered a
real gem: the idea itself, of playin' James Brown-ed funk on sitar,
is brilliant, and much curiosity and appeal was added by knowing from
the notes that the man recorded the disc in 4-day long continuous
session, after closing his combo (wife playing organ) in studio and
stuffin' himself with LSD. When the recording was over, notes say
that HE JUST LEFT MUSIC, and he now must be feeding
rabbits in some mental health center somewhere in California.
Play "Path of Blazing Sarong", open your mind and your ears will
follow.

Gionni Paloodi


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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Italiano 12" vinyl remixes
Date: 17 Feb 2000 22:16:48 +0000


> >Other highly recommended item, on same label: "W la felicita'
> >(english version)" by Franco Godi, with 2 remixes; the original
> >italian language edit is on Studio Uno's "Third Millennium"
> >compilation.
>
> How does one go about obtaining them?

Well, I just know Studio Uno sells via Dusty Groove. You can try
them.

> Scotti's work is brilliant and very now. How does one e-mail the fellow??
> Thanks Gionni...JB

He hasn't any e-mail yet. You can e-mail me, and I will forward to a
common friend who lives near him. He'll show Paolo.

Ciao
Gionni


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Who are these guys anyway?
Date: 17 Feb 2000 16:38:42 -0500


Just got back from the local used/promo CD store.

Can anyone fill in the blanks on these 4 CDs that I saw there?
Shouold I go back and get any of them?

The Bongo Kings: Bongos In Paradise (Starbound Records;1997;$4.49)

The Lance Gambit Trio: Cocktail 2000 (MFL;1997;$6.99)

Mr. Wright: Star Time (Le Grande Magistery;1998;$3.99)

World Standard: Country Gazette (Asphodel;1997;$4.99)

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Based on resent posts, I did pick up The Wiseguys: The Antidote ($3.99)

Thanks fer yer help!

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From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) exotica questionaire
Date: 17 Feb 2000 17:04:00 -0500


    I saw a few of these exotica questionaires filled out a little while
ago & found myself enjoying some of the info behind the postings. Here's
mine...



    > 1. Are you a musician? Explain...

Sure. Played in pop & rock bands around Boston for 17 yrs or so. Currently
play guitar with Kahuna nominees Seks Bomba.

    > 2. Space-age/exotic LP/CD that turned you on to this?

Started with the lounge/spy stuff, sort of on the avant jazz side; in the
late 80's found a 10" with an sleeve I can only describe as Extremely
Adorable, called "TV: Mais Oui!" by the Melody 4. There were 3 of them
actually, Steve Beresford, Tony Coe & Lol Coxhill, all more known in the
jazz/free improv world, but here doing versions of the Addams Family theme,
Mission Impossible, Danger Man etc., along with a number of european TV
themes I wasn't familiar with. Other M4 records I was lucky enough to find
included versions of "Les Vacances du M. Hebert"  & "Touch of Evil," along
with some amusing originals. I only recently noticed that Tony Coe also
appears on at least one Mancini disc, "The Pink Panther Strikes Back" OST.
    John Zorn's late 80's discs were also huge, specifically the
Morricone tribute "The Big Gundown," the sprawling crime jazz suite
"Spillaine" and (especially) Naked City, a jazz/rock/noise supergroup who
split their time between short, fast grindcore, original multi-genre cut-ups
and expert covers of soundtrack faves like "Chinatown," "I Want To Live," A
Shot in the Dark" and more. A band that really could do almost anything.
    Lastly, a friend of mine had picked up a copy of Dick Hyman's "The
Man From O.R.G.A.N" at a yard sale & played it for me, maybe '90 or so. I
was particularly blown away by the arrangements & good humor. I obsessed on
this one for years before finally finding my own copy ($9.99 sealed!). By
then I'd already started Seks Bomba - the first cover we ever learned was a
version of DH's arrangement of Lalo Schifrin's "Liquidator" (appears on the
1st single).
    After that, it's been Lalo S, Quincy Jones, Jimmy Smith, Enoch
Light, Vincent Bell, the Ventures, Tjader, strange vanity pressings by
organists on cruise liners, industrial pageants ("General Electric Presents
'Go Fly a Kite'"), etc.

    > 3. This list could help you more by...

Fine as it is; just wish I had time to read regularly...

    > 4. Other exotica/things you collect

Not actively collecting, but I recently found a stash of my old Corgi &
Dinky toy cars & put 'em out on display in the living room. I buy a lot of
books that I plan to get around to reading too, but will deny that I am
"collecting" them. Some Shriner/fez artifacts (see below).

    > 5. Unrelated music genres/acts you like

improv (free &/or jazz & otherwise), experimental, some current pop music,
60's rock,
    >
    > 6. What are you just dying to tell us?

"...!"

    > 7. Own a fez?  If so, what color, texture and tassel color?
Describe it or
    > other lounge-wear of which you are proud?

Started on a Fez fetish in the mid-80's -might have started the time I got
caught in a Shriner Parade trying to get to a King Crimson show ("wow!
little cars, just like on the Dead kennedy's lp!") or maybe the cartoon a
friend had done about a Shriners/Bikers gang war...Got one as a gift a
little later, display only tho -sadly, does not fit - but a few years later
a friend took a picture of it & made a virtual Seks Bomba fez in photoshop
-it appears on the back cover of the Bomba single "[Main title and love
theme from] 'Satan's Shriners'"
    I also have some Shriner-related artifacts...perhaps a
"collection"?...including a painting from the 40's or 50's (I'm guessing)
depicting Shriners torturing non-befezzed civilians in a circus ring;
throwing them into a shark tank, putting them in a lion's cage with a only a
greased poll by way of escape; skating & pouring boiling water on their
heads (which stick up out of the ice); shooting them, electricuting, etc.
Really wish I could scan this for y'all!
    > 8. Shaken/stirred?

Yes.
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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Doin' the duck in Memphis
Date: 18 Feb 2000 00:02:33 +0000


> Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:44:00 -0500
> From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
> But I loved the whole atmosphere of the city.
> And have a drink if you can in the lobby of the (damn!) ??? hotel.  The big
> old one near Beale Street?  Anyone?  Brian?
> Faulkner said that the Mississippi began in the lobby of the ???

The Peabody.
It's where, twice a day, four ducks are freed in the lobby and let
take bath in the fountain. They actually come out of the elevator
at ground floor and accompanied by a valet, with red carpet rollin'
under their feet and tourists taking flashes. They just don't seem
to care about the crowd and sway their asses like Bardot.
I was lucky to be there on the day it was some anniversary of this
ceremony, and there were these gigantic cakes with real size
chocolate ducks, free for everybody in the lobby. And live swinging
quartet in black tie. And champagne all over.
It was 11 o'clock in the morning, and I got dead drunk.
Memphis means love.
Ciao
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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) poetic cockroackes from outer space
Date: 18 Feb 2000 00:02:33 +0000


> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:53:31 +0100
> From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) the poetic cockroach on a typewriter
>
> some of you might have swapped tapes with a guy who calls himself the
> "Underground culture Vulture". i did, and was disappoited by the lack of
> track lists. even more when he refused to tell me the origin of a specific
> track: a crime jazzy piece about a poetic cockroach that writes on a
> typewriter. anyone recognises this decription?

I thought I could help, but sorry I was wrong. I remembered something
like that and run to the record ("Beat Jazz - Pictures From The Gone
World", on Pesky Serpent recs., ps1001, a boot lp comp.): on side B
there's "Cockroach" by Jack Kerouac, followed a coupla tracks later
by "Drums in my Typewriter" by Woody Leafer. It's not what you're
after but, you know, almost.
In case you're wonderin', it's just (just?) poetry without a single
note of music (some drums of course).
Ciao
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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) eBay...ain't it a kick in da head?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 09:26:49 +1100


Just to show you the angel and the devil at work here on eBay,

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=258599128

This record can be had any time for under $20 (mint-this one is a paltry
VG+), but the way the seller worded the auction title, it pulled in people
who wouldn't have known it existed and are bidding like it's the Holy Grail.
 To cap it off, if you do a search under 'moog lp', you'll see this auction
listed, and TWO ITEMS under it is the same record, at $5.50.

At least the poor sap bidding $70 will get a good record...but don't anyone
tell him he's a stooge!

Keith

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Subject: Re: (exotica) eBay...ain't it a kick in da head?
Date: 17 Feb 2000 17:31:43 -0600




"Keith E. Lo Bue" wrote:
>
> Just to show you the angel and the devil at work here on eBay,
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=258599128
>
> This record can be had any time for under $20 (mint-this one is a paltry
> VG+), but the way the seller worded the auction title, it pulled in people
> who wouldn't have known it existed and are bidding like it's the Holy Grail.
>  To cap it off, if you do a search under 'moog lp', you'll see this auction
> listed, and TWO ITEMS under it is the same record, at $5.50.
>
> At least the poor sap bidding $70 will get a good record...but don't anyone
> tell him he's a stooge!
>
>

You gotta be kiddin'! I got this in a thrift store for less
than a buck.

I've seen it all now......

The thing is, I'm not willing to part with it, not even for $70.
I must be nuts.


--

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From: "Larson/Thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Crime Jazz and Cocktail Mix
Date: 17 Feb 2000 17:49:08 -0800


> Is anyone familiar with Rhino's four volume 'Cocktail Mix'
series? I have most of the Ultra Lounge series and would like to
know if the Rhino series is comparable or if the material is
largely duplicated.

The Cocktail Mix series overlaps very little with the Ultra Lounge series.
Cocktail Mix Vol. 1 (Bachelor's Guide to the Galaxy) is especially good but
each volume has something to offer.

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From: Paul <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) eBay...ain't it a kick in da head?
Date: 17 Feb 2000 23:35:20 -0800



> At least the poor sap bidding $70 will get a good record...but don't anyone
> tell him he's a stooge!

or tell the guy i auctioned off a somewhat rare first edition mono UK
fab four 'white album' to in Nov.

  **  $ 870 **




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From: Will Louviere <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new stuff at showandtellmusic + ebay + thriftstores
Date: 18 Feb 2000 01:44:31 -0800


hey dudes,

added a new goofy gallery tonight. here's the URL:

http://showandtellmusic.com/pages/thrift/thrift8.html

i added a bunch more stuff too but it's pretty much scattered all over
the site. actually, here's a URL for a religious page that i added stuff to :

http://showandtellmusic.com/pages/christian/otherstuff.html

there's a few new additions in fancy gallery #4 and in some other places.
showandtell can be a good site to steal scans from so maybe check it out ...

_________________________________________________
EBAY:

i could talk forever about what i think of ebay, but i won't. i WILL say
that it allowed me to quit my job-job and almost (but not quite) fully
support myself. WITHOUT a business loan, WITHOUT paying rent for
a storefront, WITHOUT going through those "tough first couple of years"
that any new business goes through. AND, allows me to do pretty much
exactly what i enjoy doing: hunting down unusual recordings.

having said that, i can't fuckin beleive the guy's payin $70 for Age of
Electronicus either.

however, PAYING $70 is quite a different thing than CHARGING $70, isn't it ?
ebay fuckin rules, cuz you can start your auctions low, and let the buyers
figure out how much they're gonna pay. in other words, you can be a "business
man" and not feel like a jerk about it. (( by the way, i don't work for ebay,
and I definitely don't start ALL of my auctions low ...

let me give you a short list of some of the music i've scored there just to
let it be known that it's also possible to find great cheap records at auction:

Marko Polo Adventurers, exc stereo $6
Marty Mannings Twilight Zone, nm stereo    $10
John Mcfarlands Provacatif, mint mono  $10   (not a great record, but a
real good one)
Michael Magnes Tropical Fantasy   exc  stereo     $35  (cheap actually)
Leo Diamonds Skin Diver Suite      exc     $10
Andre Popps Delirium in Hifi    SEALED    $20
jack fascinato ...Surplus    exc stereo       $5


and a bunch more that i cant remeber. tons of rad shit. so ebay's not ALL
that bad.


__________________________________________________
AND THRIFT STORES:

thrift stores/ flea markets here in the bay area are a great option for finding
stuff. i go to this one (that will for now remain secret) where the manager
plays tape loops of himself singing karaoke songs all day. it's really fun
to go to,
and is infinitely more enjoyable than wading through the hipster freaks at
Ameoba
in Berkeley. there is seemingly no filtering at all there in the record
department,
and i consistently find great records there for 75 cents each ((as well as
tons of
great art ...

And yeah, it's the sense of adventure and the thrill of the score and all
that stuff
that we all know about.

but before i ever heard of any exotica "scene" or lounge culture type of
stuff (it
was happening, belive me, i just wasnt aware of it), thrift stores were a
place i
could go to find something of MY OWN. places where "culture" wasn't SOLD to me,
pre-packaged and approved, or rammed down my throat (the bay area is notoroius
for that).

it seems like where i live, people allow the "weekly's" to dictate where
they go, and
what they take in, to the point where it's just beyond silly. and i'm
sorry, but rap
music and rock n roll (the 2 former greatest loves of my life) were 6 feet
under
10 years ago. and i do NOT need to go to any more "i wish to god we were
still in the
80's"punk concerts.

(I DONT EXPECT ANY OF YOU TO AGREE OR EVEN TAKE SERIOUSLY THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH)

i think I'm getting tired, and probally most of you haven't even made it
this far, so
I'll just say that even with places like ebay and jack diamond music,
thrift stores
still rule.



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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) new stuff at showandtellmusic + ebay + thriftstores
Date: 18 Feb 2000 12:05:12 +0100


Will Louviere wrote:

> http://showandtellmusic.com/pages/thrift/thrift8.html

BTW: How do YOU get your album covers scanned? Do you have a big one that fits LP
covers?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) sitariization over the nation
Date: 18 Feb 2000 11:20:43 +0000


Giovanni Berti wrote:
>
> All those sitar titles posted recently reminded me of a very fave of
> mine: Ravi Harris & the Prophets "Funky Sitar Man" on BBE (Barely
> Breaking Even). I first thought t'was a reissue of some geek's lost
> tapes, shelved in the vaults in the early 70's and intentionally left
> there ever since. I was disappointed when I realised it was, say,
> "modern";

At least two tracks are old 're-issue' material, for there was a single
released in about 1970 by Ravi Harris with 'Hot Pants Road' and 'Path of
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From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 11:32:49 -0000


I recently saw the kennedy's cover with the little cars,  so will someone
illuminate me?

Shriners?


El Maestro Con Queso

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Subject: Re: (exotica) sitariization over the nation
Date: 18 Feb 2000 11:55:17 +0000


>>At least two tracks are old 're-issue' material, for there was a single
released in about 1970 by Ravi Harris with 'Hot Pants Road' and 'Path of
the Blazing Sarong'.

Have you seen this release for real or are you just quoting from the liner
notes.
This is one of those albums that I really hated. Boring non-funky funk,
played by poor musicians in an average at best set. The drummer IMO is
really awful - they could have recruited someone with a little more skill.
As a concept it sounds great - James Brown and Meters covers with a sitar
but its just crap. And its new, not old and I hate the cover.

Charlie


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Date: 18 Feb 2000 12:11:15 +0000


Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/[e-mail] wrote:
>
> >>At least two tracks are old 're-issue' material, for there was a single
> released in about 1970 by Ravi Harris with 'Hot Pants Road' and 'Path of
> the Blazing Sarong'.
>
> Have you seen this release for real or are you just quoting from the liner
> notes.

Seen a picture of it (does that count?). And it's appeared in several
'for sale' lists. Plus a couple of people from the West Coast on another
mailing list have copies, and who weren't aware of the BBE lp. On
Gemini.

Haven't heard any tracks though. Would it be possible that BBE planted
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Who are these guys anyway?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 07:59:12 -0600


> Can anyone fill in the blanks on these 4 CDs that I saw there?
> Shouold I go back and get any of them?

> The Lance Gambit Trio: Cocktail 2000 (MFL;1997;$6.99)

This one has "cocktail versions of contemporary hits" -- covers of
tunes by Oasis, Blur, etc. by a Shearing-esque combo of piano,
vibes, drums, bass.  At least one of the tracks has surface noise
dubbed in to create the feel of old vinyl.  The whole thing smells a
bit like a put-on, but the music's enjoyable, if unremarkable.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 09:22:38 -0500


> Shriners?

Well, I should start with the official Shriner site before I start giving my
own unresearched and totally opinionated views on the Shriners. (and apologies
if I already did so a while back)
http://www.shriners.com/index.html

But that's only the official site.  The Shriners, also known as the Masons, is
a fraternal organization made of close to 500,000 members in North America
scattered around 150 or so individual lodges.  They do sponsor some charity
work, mainly children's hospitals and burn centers, and are best known for
their presence in various parades (with the little cars or as clowns)  A few
years ago the Shriners got some poor press when a national study of charitable
organizations presented the Shriners as one of the charities that passed on the
lowest percentage of their fund-raising dollars to those who actually needed
help.

Most of the members are quite elderly, usually around retirement age.
Fraternal organizations have generally had a tough time recruiting new
members.  Perhaps this is because many of those born after 1950 have been
overly influenced by the antics of Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble in their
'Loyal Order of Water Buffalo'  For some the image of shriners are as a bunch
of older men, getting together and drinking and having a good time - mostly
behind the doors of their 'members only' organizations.

The Shriners are best known for the exotica realm for their fez headwear - if a
exoticat or hipster owns a fez, chances are good it at one time belonged to a
Shriner.  I have a theory that the fez was chosen as part of their costume
because of the 'exotic' nature of Turkey and the Middle East when the Shriner
organization was formed - in 1872.  At that time, America and Britain were in
the middle of the sexual and moral conservative Victorian period, and the more
Eastern areas of the world then had a reputation for harems, hedonism and
looser moral values.  Thus, when a bunch of men formed their organization, they
chose to don the costumes of this more 'hedonistic' and party-like culture.
Interestingly, 100 years later the Islamic countries are now viewed as strict
while the Western nations are the hedonistic ones.

Because most Shriners are elderly, there is a tendency to associate them with
the older school of American attitudes - the men who loved their steak and
potatos and 3 martini lunches, didn't mind a little sexual banter with the
secretary, would go wild at their conventions (see the cover of the latest Big
Bad Voodoo Daddy CD), and as part of the power class - generally more
conservative and willing to keep things at the status quo, rather than push for
or support equal rights for women, civil rights, etc.

The Shriners could be thought as the social fraternal organization, who during
the 1950's had much power (the judges, the company CEOs, the town council
members were probably members), and I think that the adaption of today's
hipsters of the fez is 1) a way of saying 'We can party too in the old martini
kind of way' and 2) a way of saying 'we are in power now' by appropriating the
clothing and imagery of those formerly in power ..... perhaps the equivalent of
a jungle tribesman displaying the shrunken head of the enemy to gain his
enemy's power.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) streamies
Date: 18 Feb 2000 09:31:46 -0500


02/17/2000
Online Radio Listeners Gain Net Stature

One of the newest words to be spawned by the electronic revolution is
"Streamies," that group of people who regularly listen to audio or view video
online.

Full article at:
http://www.bizreport.com/news/2000/02/20000217-7.htm

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Subject: Re: (exotica) new stuff at showandtellmusic + ebay + thriftstores
Date: 18 Feb 2000 09:50:06 EST


Will, don't forgot about Gregg Oliver's beatnik erotic masterpiece
"Seduction" for $7.99.  The one and only bidder.  I love it.

<< let me give you a short list of some of the music i've scored there just to
 let it be known that it's also possible to find great cheap records at
auction:

 Marko Polo Adventurers, exc stereo $6
 Marty Mannings Twilight Zone, nm stereo    $10
 John Mcfarlands Provacatif, mint mono  $10   (not a great record, but a
 real good one)
 Michael Magnes Tropical Fantasy   exc  stereo     $35  (cheap actually)
 Leo Diamonds Skin Diver Suite      exc     $10
 Andre Popps Delirium in Hifi    SEALED    $20
 jack fascinato ...Surplus    exc stereo       $5 >>


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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rhino's Crime Jazz sequel
Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:14:24 +0000


> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:43:41 -0800
> From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Crime Jazz and Cocktail Mix
>
> Fans of detective tv shows and films from the late 50s thru early
> 70s should check out Rhino's two volume set  'Crime Jazz.'
> I picked up volume two  this weekend and it's brilliant! Now I have
> to get volume one (so you know I fall into the completist camp!).

Weren't these 3 volumes? After "Crime Jazz - Music in the First
Degree" and "C.J. - M. in the Second Degree", hasn't a "Crime Jazz
in the Third Degree" actually been released?
Ciao
Gionni


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From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Thrifts, Kitts, Collectors & Cocktail Mix
Date: 18 Feb 2000 11:27:26 -0500



[e-mail] wrote:

        >I couldn't concur more heartily, Nate!  When the 'Mancini
can never be found
        >in thrift stores' thing was posted, I had a mouth-ajar
laugh, as I have been
        >in thrift stores that had so much Mancini (not to mention
Denny-type
        >exotica) stuff that I was pushing it aside to get to other
things!

I must agree as well...the Markett's "Out of Limits," F&T "Dynamic Twin
Pianos" gatefold (haven't heard much mention of this one, but it's probably
my fave F&T "preparation"), Ohio Players, Miles Davis, Derek Bailey & co...&
once, just once, I walked into a little place in New Hampshire & was ready
to leave with a book & a kids 45 that looked amusing & the woman behind the
counter looked at me & said "you like records? we've got some more over
there..." pointing to a box of 45's.
I walked out with promo singles of Willie Bobo & Velvet Underground, picture
sleeves of the Byrds, Pyramids, Cassius Clay, Yardbirds & more, plus
oddities like the Tornado's "Life on Venus (Telstar 2)" & so many more I
can't remember...60 in all at $2 a pop. The other week, I found a bunch of
60's Italian 45's, among them an Italian language cover of "Bend Me Shape
Me" & several with Morricone's orch backing.
Still, after a certain number of years & John Denver records have passed, my
patience is not what it was...

        ------------------------------

        [e-mail] wrote:

        >I played one of these pups in the pit orch. of the show
"Timbuktu" (remake
        >of "Kismet") at the Pantages Theater in Hollywood back in
the late 70's -
        >Eartha Kitt starred - she was phenomenal.  Terrific
show--see it at all
        >costs if it ever comes back.  It's nonstop exotica.

Wait a minute...You played ELECTRIC SITAR in the pit orchestra for an
exotica production which starred EARTHA KITT? That's...I...well...I must
say, I'm impressed!!!


        ------------------------------

        [e-mail] wrote:

        >The guy in the shop said 'there now,  take that home and
put it somewhere
        >safe' - a COLLECTOR.
        >
        >I took it home and played the fuck out of it.  Taped it for
my mates and
        >occasionally take it out to gigs (that price tag takes some
emotional toil).
        >An ACCUMULATOR.

        Collector? Accumulator? How bout LISTENER? I mean, I'm as
bummed out as anyone when poking around the local Goodwill & finding a copy
of Moon Gas or whatever, opening it up & finding it scratched up beyond
repair (assuming it's not actually a Perry Como Xmas disc, or Carly Simon or
whatever someone stuffed inside the cover), but... ultimately that's why
they made these things.


        ------------------------------

        [e-mail] wrote:

        >Is anyone familiar with Rhino's four volume 'Cocktail Mix'
series? I have most of the Ultra Lounge series and would like >to know if
the Rhino series is comparable or if the material is largely duplicated.

        Those are actually my favorite among the series' that came
out a few yeqars back (the RCA 3-vol, Ultra Lounges, etc). They were the
only ones at the time to include Dick Hyman, Lenny Dee + some soul jazz
(Jack MacDuff etc) & latin bugalu (Pucho, Tjader etc) among others.
Regrettable covers, tho. Not much duplication that I saw.

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Crime Jazz and Cocktail Mix
Date: 18 Feb 2000 08:40:56 -0800


Larson/Thomas ([e-mail]) wrote:

> > Is anyone familiar with Rhino's four volume 'Cocktail Mix'
> series? I have most of the Ultra Lounge series and would like to
> know if the Rhino series is comparable or if the material is
> largely duplicated.
>
> The Cocktail Mix series overlaps very little with the Ultra Lounge series.
> Cocktail Mix Vol. 1 (Bachelor's Guide to the Galaxy) is especially good
but
> each volume has something to offer.

I would agree with Jerry - I have the full four volume set (as well as maybe
half of the Ultra Lounge series). Volume 3 of the Rhino set (Martini
Madness) is a terrific party record that plays well for your friends that
may have not experienced any exotica/lounge (e.g., very high energy). Play
this for them before you fire up your Legend of the Jivaro LP ...

Erik
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Subject: RE: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 09:08:04 -0800


In the course of giving lots of cool info on Shriners, Vern
([e-mail]) closes with:

> The Shriners could be thought as the social fraternal organization, who
during
> the 1950's had much power (the judges, the company CEOs, the town council
> members were probably members), and I think that the adaption of today's
> hipsters of the fez is 1) a way of saying 'We can party too in the old
martini
> kind of way' and 2) a way of saying 'we are in power now' by appropriating
the
> clothing and imagery of those formerly in power ..... perhaps the
equivalent of
> a jungle tribesman displaying the shrunken head of the enemy to gain his
> enemy's power.

Hmmmm.

I wear mine simple because it looks so friggin cool (yes, I do consider
Zippy a fashion icon). Guess I live on a rather shallow plane.

One tip for a poor man's fez - the buckets that you get at movie theaters
can double as a fez. This is why I stay away from the weird topping stuff
(gets your hair too greasy).

Erik
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Subject: (exotica) [obit] Sam Osman,Bernardino Zapponi
Date: 18 Feb 2000 14:22:40 -0500


                             *Sam Osman
    NEW YORK (AP) -- Sam Osman, the founder of Job Lot Trading, an
emporium with an unpredictable mix of ultracheap merchandise, died
Tuesday. He was 88.
    Once a pushcart salesman on Manhattan's Lower East Side, Osman
went on to found a business on what he once called ``other people's
mistakes.'' Those mistakes were then transformed into potentially
attractive merchandise by tagging them with low prices.
    Opened in 1950, the shrine to impulsive shopping offered
customers the attraction of mystery. On any given day, bargains
might range from fishing poles to perfume, toboggan wax to musical
piggy banks.
    Based on Vesey Street near City Hall in lower Manhattan, Osman
then opened The Pushcart store next door. In 1967, he moved the two
stores to a nearby corner where he had connected four buildings.
    After dropping out of school in his teens, Osman began working
in a New York sweatshop at 15, and soon after began peddling from a
pushcart.
    He sold his business in the early 1980s. In 1993, the store was
closed.
A great NYTimes obit is at:
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-s-osman.html
---
The Italian press reports that Bernardino Zapponi, 73, screenwriter of
several of Fellini's films, died Friday of a stroke in a Rome hospital.
Among his screenplays are those for "Casanova", "Satyricon" et "City of
Women".
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Zapponi,+Bernardino
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 20
Date: 18 Feb 2000 15:49:31 -0500


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.


Space Bop #83   Sitar Beats

DJ Me DJ You:  Glassbong  "Simplemachinerock"
The Inner Thumb:  Citroens 'n' Sitars  "Soul Ecstasy ost"
The Dave Pike Set:  Mathar  "Untouchable Outcaste Beats"

Ananda Shankar:  Streets Of Calcutta  "Untouchable Outcaste Beats"
Nicola Conte:  Missione a Bombay  "Bossa Per Due/Missione a Bombay"
Bill "Ravi" Harris & The Prophets:  Soul Makossa  "Funky Sitar Man"

Mint Royale:  From Rusholme With Love  "Kinky Beats"
Muslimgauze:  Mumbai Vibe Garden  "Fakir Sind"
Lord Sitar:  I Can See For Miles  "Kinky Beats"

Dance Music Federation:  Cybersitar  "Untouchable Outcaste Beats"
Up, Bustle & Out:  Emerald Alley  "Funkungfusion"

Thanks for reading.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners? (Long)
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:18:34 EST


Oh my darlings,
First, Hi, I'm new and haven't posted yet-kinda lurking.  Anyways, this is an interesting little thread right now, and I want no one to take offense to how I'm going to word this.

Everyone who has posted info on the Shriners are shockingly misinformed, and naive.  They are not also know as the Masons, they are a subdivison of the Masons, or Freemasons.  Now, the Freemasons are a subdivision of the Illuminati, which is the secret society of bankers, tradesmen, royalty, governmental members, and generally the rich and powerful in the world, that control the world.  Don't believe me?  There's so much info I won't be able to cram it into 1, or 5, or 5,000 emails, and I'm not going to subject anyone to that.

Anyways, for a long long time, as in, middle ages ago, the Catholics and the Freemasons or Illuminati were basically at war over who should control the world.  Now, however, the world is populated all over and the Catholics are no longer the big huge religion they once were-remember, way back in the day contact with places such as Asia was rather difficult, what with no electricity and such.  For a long time, centuries, Catholics couldn't become Masons, so the Knights of Columbus were invented so they could have their own secret society.  However, sometime in the early 1970s I think, the Pope issued a doctrine stating Catholics could now become Masons.  Why do you think this is?  Because the Catholics and Freemasons have the same interest, ie, controlling the earth and everyone on it-the New World Order.  Not just an idea of George Bush's.  So they've joined forces.  And every president the US has ever had has been a Freemason...the Harvard and Yale societies, The Order of the!
 Skull and Bones or whatever, is a subdivision of the Freemasons.  The US was started for the New World Order and so far, they've kinda failed.  And Hitler's whole deal happened to start the New World Order, which is why the US took so long to get involved, they wanted it to happen.  But then Hitler got real stupid and greedy and we stepped in.

So back to the Shriners-sure they do charity work.  It's all a front.  They want people to think they're nice and decent but really, they are the lowest degree of Masons.  There's all kinds of webpages and books on it, the Rosicruicians, the Freemasons, the Knights of Columbus, the Illuminati.  Check out R.A. Wilson's "Illuminatus Trilogy"-it's not exactly fiction.

It's scary shit, hard to believe, but the world is being controlled by people who are evil.  It's a vast conspriacy, and I promise I'm not some freaky sociopath or anything either.  Look it up.

-Erica


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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners? (Long)
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:50:06 -0500


Erica wrote:

Why do you think this is?  Because the Catholics and Freemasons have the
same interest, ie, controlling the earth and everyone on it-the New World
Order.  Not just an idea of George Bush's.  So they've joined forces.  And
every president the US has ever had has been a Freemason...the Harvard and
Yale societies, The Order of the!  Skull and Bones or whatever, is a
subdivision of the Freemasons.  The US was started for the New World Order
and so far, they've kinda failed.  And Hitler's whole deal happened to
start the New World Order, which is why the US took so long to get
involved, they wanted it to happen.  But then Hitler got real stupid and
greedy and we stepped in.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You are attributing an awful lot of power to an organization that is, at
worst, an old-boys network. I've read Robert Anton Wilson as well and it is
an intentionally funny read in that he has worked every half-baked loopy
conspiracy theory into a unified whole.

So...you forgot to mention Black Helicopters, Hitler's Antarctic UFO bases
and the Knights Templar. All of whom live in the hollow Earth.

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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 18 Feb 2000 18:32:18 -0600


Loads of "Hawaiian swing" on this week's Retro Cocktail Hour
webcast!  You'll find tunes by Werner Muller, Muzzy Marcellino,
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 19 Feb 2000 02:13:18 +0100


[e-mail],

> shockingly misinformed, and naive:

> They are not also know as the Masons, they are a subdivison of the Masons, or Freemasons.  Now, the Freemasons are a subdivision of the Illuminati

The Freemasons started as a guild of master builders in late medieval times, whereas the Illuminati were founded much later, in the 18th century. So the first cannot be a subdivision of the latter. Both organizations like many others got their mysterious reputation mostly from the fact that they actually kept secrets, the masons for instance the knowledge of house building techniques. The Illuminati were a club of Bavarian intellectuals and they were secret, simply because they were 'verboten' to meet and speak in public at that time.
The word Shriner sounds exactely like the German word Schreiner, which means carpenter, so I guess the origin of the Shriners is also a guild like organization, for carpenters.

The sad thing about these kind of wild and exaggerated conspiracy theories of Erica and others is, that, if someone seriously attempts to point on certain factual proceedings, that could be called conspiracies, such as the Gulf war or the Kosovo war, s/he is automatically in bad company of these ridiculous theories and nobody listens anymore. It's destructive to be so unprecise; if you look on certain conspiracy theories in terms of conspiracy theories, you could as well call them part of the conspiracy, a disinformation to obscure the truth. Why f.i. should the Shriners "want the people to think they're nice and decent", when they really want something evil? They could achieve the evil goals without a nice Shriner "front" and silly parades. Ever thought about it?

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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners? (Long)
Date: 18 Feb 2000 21:34:32 -0500


OK, this is one of the most ridiculous, uninformed posts I've seen in a long
time. The Freemasons originated with mason guilds (professional
associations) in the middle ages. They became freemasons per se in the 18th
century in England. The French branch seceded in the mid-19th century
because it was insisting on being a lay organization supporting values such
as education for all and the Republic (values that you, Erica, perhaps,
don't share?) while the British were attached to a more spiritual strain.
Your harebrained drivel about the masons being in the same boat with the
Catholics is plain ridiculous. Freemasons were condemned by the Church in
1738, and they don't remain in the best of terms. As for your mind-blowingly
ignorant conspiracy theories, nobody in their right minds and with a minimum
of education believes that crap anymore. But then you also perhaps believe
in creationism, something that nobody in any Western, educated democracy
(save for the US) takes seriously.

Sadly you're not a "freaky sociopath," as you yourself joke, just an
ignoramus.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 22:57:56 -0500


The conspiracy that worries me is the Conspiracy of Stupidity. It is
powerful, universal and infinitely adaptable... operating automatically,
with no need for leaders, planning or coordination... its countless agents
unaware of their function. We all serve as its tools now and then.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 23:06:30 EST


I think the Conspiracy of Stupidity isn't quite as worrisome as the
Conspiracy of Intolerance, which is certainly making it's presence known on
this mailing list.


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From: "w m" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re:thrifts and lawn sales
Date: 19 Feb 2000 02:18:52 PST



all this talk of thrifts and lawn sales reminds me of  the following little
story. my mom used to be a real estate agent and one of her customers sold
her some records. among them were one of the leonard nimoy lps, and a
soundtrack to "laugh-in". recently when i was shrinking my record collection
to make it easier for my parents to take care of since i wasn't sure when or
if i would be returning to the states from this stint in taiwan i gave
nearly all my thrift/exotica records to some friends.(yma sumac 10"s, martin
denny, les baxter, esquivel, etc...) anyways, among the records i kept were
the leonard one as well as my sealed space 1999 record which for some reason
i haven't felt was right to open yet. i must admit i do miss going to
thrifts and buying vinyl but for now its really not an option.

          william in taipei.


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) re:thrifts and lawn sales
Date: 19 Feb 2000 09:36:32 -0500


Hiya William,

>i must admit i do miss going to  >thrifts and buying vinyl but for now its
>really not an option.
>          william in taipei

How's record hunting in Taiwan? Care to report on the music scene?
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Up jumped the Boogie
Date: 19 Feb 2000 07:21:22 -0800 (PST)


Since the talk on the list has turned towards this old
school stuff, I stuck some tunes in my Click2Send box.
Double Dutch Bus, Rapper's Delight and Good Times.

Rappers Delight is 14 meg, so it'll take a while.  The
other two are about 4.5 megs.

Happy listening!

Peter

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000
Date: 17 Feb 2000 19:48:59 +0100


read this @ dusty groove:

Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000 (Hymne An Die Zununft) (CD
     single)

anyone heard it? how does it compare to his older work?

        Johan

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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 19 Feb 2000 15:29:41 -0500


>I think the Conspiracy of Stupidity isn't quite as worrisome as the
>Conspiracy of Intolerance, which is certainly making it's presence known on
>this mailing list.

Intolerance is a subdivision of stupidity.

But seriously, if you took my post personally, my apologies. It honestly
wasn't intended as an attack. I was quite serious about what I said. This
is the nature of mailing list threads. You say something, and others
extrapolate from there.

Perhaps you've drawn this reaction because the conspiracy you've laid out
is so old hat to many of us. Sure, I've played around with conspiracy
theories. I've read Wilson. This stuff can be entertaining with its baroque
structures, but I think it's really about trying to build frames around our
fears. And frames don't really exist out there. Unfortunately, the world is
indeed full of small and large-scale evil, and it is simultaneously more
complex, simple, mundane and ugly than any musty conspiracy theory.

Speaking of intolerance, I'm sure a lot of Shriners and Masons would find
you rather intolerant for classing them en masse as tools of evil.

If you want something real to worry about, try this for starters:
http://antimedia.net/echelon/

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dusty Groove's LP/CD descriptions....
Date: 19 Feb 2000 12:45:11 -0800


What I have to say below is not meant to be taken as a put-down of Dusty
Groove, a place on the internet where I'm sure all of us spend lots of
money to buy our favorite LPs and CDs (at least, I do!).  I throw this
out there as "FYI" only because I recently had this experience and I know
that many people rely on their descriptions of albums:

Beware of Dusty Groove's album descriptions--because they are not always
accurate.  Case in point:  DG has "The Milton Banana Trio" CD and the
"Ve" CD as having Walter Wanderley playing on both, when in reality it is
not Walter at all, but another Brazilian pianist named "Wanderley"
[single name].  This has been pointed out to DG time and time again by
several musicians (including Joe Carter), and they've yet to correct the
error.  Walter Wanderley never played with The Milton Banana Trio.  I
finally was able to confirm this bit of information via a reliable music
source in Brazil.

Regards,
--bj
The Walter Wanderley Pictorial Discography
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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 19 Feb 2000 16:51:31 -0500


At 02:13 AM 2/19/00 +0100, Moritz R wrote:
>
>The Freemasons started as a guild of master builders in late medieval
times, whereas the Illuminati were founded much later, in the 18th century.
>. The Illuminati were a club of Bavarian intellectuals and they were
secret, simply because they were 'verboten' to meet and speak in public at
that time.
>The word Shriner sounds exactely like the German word Schreiner, which
means carpenter

Yeah sure.  Carpenters.  That's right.  Like Jesus.  Like Karen and Richard.
Is that what they told you to do, you and your fellow travellers here on
the list?
"Make us seem unimportant.  Make our enemies seem silly."
It's frightening to see that the conspiracy is so pervasive that they would
even bother sending their troops to this modest little mailing list to
stomp out any possibility of real knowledge seeping into the world.
But it was a tactical error on Brother Moritz's part to use the word
"verboten" in his post.  That word has frightening implications for anyone
who's ever watched Hogan's Heroes.   It makes everything else he tries to
say here ineffective and highly suspect.
The word "conspiracy" itself has been effectively discredited by any number
of (mostly) self-interested forces.
Anyone who uses the word is immediately branded a "nut".
It's as if events occur at random and the fact that certain forces continue
to hold power is just a lucky accident.
There probably are some conspiracies being hatched here and there.   But
for the most part, the people "on top" don't have to conspire with each
other.  What's good for one is good for the other.  They never have to meet
or talk or discuss any plans.  As long as they all continue to ruthlessly
act in their own self-interest, they will be implicitly helping each other.
I accept this.
And that's why I'm surprised they would bother sending their minions to
quash any free expression on something as modest as a mailing list which
after all, is mostly composed of people who contribute very little to the
economy, seeing as how all they do is recycle goods.
Then again, everytime I see an url for CDNow or everytime I see a post that
says "You can't find it at a thrift store so go order the CD reissue NOW!",
I do get a chill up my spine.
Not only that but doesn't anyone else find it curious that the exotica
mailing list questionnaire contains the question "Do you own a fez?"
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Why not ask "Do you own a toque?  What about a pair of warm gloves?"
I like old records.  Why would I own a fez?  And why do you care?
It wouldn't be a way for you guys to identify each other, would it?

(Like they're going to answer that!  And anyway, what do they care if a
little insect like me figures out their methods.  Nobody's going to listen
to me.  Most people delete my posts as soon as they see my nick.)

Is anyone still there?

Dissent is verboten.

Fight the power.  Recycle.  Burn your fezzes.  Only hire non-union Carpenters.

Think globally but act locally.

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From: Elisabeth Vincentelli <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) re: shriners?
Date: 19 Feb 2000 18:14:40 -0500


As I wrote in a private email to someone about this, the only thing missing
from the original message was something about the Jews overtaking the media
and banking. There are some things I just can't abide, and they include
sweeping statements indicting large groups of people on the basis of largely
discredited theories. Does speaking up against ignorance and intolerance
(yes) make one intolerant? I'm sure the people protesting Jorg Haider in
Austria will appreciate the irony. The debate is open, though I'm not sure
this particular list is the right place.

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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) eBAY IS DEAD!  LONG LIVE eBAY and other Mindless Drivel
Date: 20 Feb 2000 10:48:23 +1100


In my dead horse kicking dept., I will say this:

1) It's never been a better time to sell records on eBay.

2) It's never been a worse time to buy records on eBay.

Both are the same...if you'd like some hard proof of this sad fact, please
go to the eBay Search and search under the bidder <Superneu!> (no offense,
kid, I hope you ain't lurkin' on this digest).  Make sure you tick the
'Completed auctions too?' bullet.

Then sit back and let your jaw drop, but leave an hour to do so.  And keep
in mind, this is in 30 DAYS of bidding.

Thrilling highlight:  Ferrante & Teicher's 'Soundproof'.  Winning Superneu!
bid: $100.  Starting bid: $100.

I won't blame the guy (I assume it's a guy; no female is that shitty with
their money); the seller misrepresented the record, didn't even mention F&T
in the auction (!) and billed it as 'space electronics.'  He knew just who
to word that for, apparently.

So, kids, my advice is to exhume those warped ole Lawrence Welk lp's and
slap 'em up online as EXOTICA RETRO OUTER SPACE POLKA LP: RARE!   or some
such.  Then keep a week's vigil at your monitor and watch the games begin.

LOVE LOVE LOVE the unholy Shriner wars here...a Fezmerizing read.

Keith

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From: Jim Gerwitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sitarmania
Date: 19 Feb 2000 16:05:24 -0800



Charlie wrote re Bill "Ravi" Harris
"As a concept it sounds great - James Brown and Meters covers with a
sitar
but its just crap."

I got the CD this week for $3.99 from the SF Virgin Megastore clearance
rack and was similarly disappointed. Cranked it up in my car on the way
home and waited for something exciting to happen, but to no avail. Not
complete crap, but kept hoping for some horns or something to help out
the sparse arrangements and the cheeezeball organ. Had to go home and
put on "Soul Pride," the excellent set of JB instrumentals. For sitar
pop I'll stick with Ananda Shankar.

The Ravi Harris CD insert said he also made lengthy tapes of music the
band recorded while stoned on acid, which of course wasn't on the CD.
Now THAT stuff sounds interesting to me (a serious space/feedback
Deadhead from '68-75) tho probably not everyone's cup of tea.

JB Le Noir

uhhhh, didn't all this conspiracy stuff bubble up last month, and
someone left the appropriate link www.disinfo.com

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it all."
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 19 Feb 2000 19:06:03 -0500


Nat, Nat, Nat - have you forgotten to take your medication again :)

cheryl


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From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Cocktail Mix, Jet Set furniture etc.
Date: 19 Feb 2000 16:10:39 -0800


Hi!

  Thanks to everyone who emailed me or posted their views on the Cocktail Mix series ~~ I'll definitely ad the series to my collection!

  I looked at the Rhino site and they only listed Vol. One and Two in the Crime Jazz series. There is a very interesting looking cd of Film Noir themes ~~ maybe you were thinking of that?

  For those on the list who have an interest in 50's thru early 70's jet set/space age moderne furnishings check out: http://www.jetsetmodern.com
everything you could imagine is there ~~ chairs, clocks, telephones, architechture and a page on concept cars from Detroit some of which are truly strange and some of which are really cool.

  I worked at a motel that hosted a gathering of Shriners who marched in a parade which is held in town every summer. They arrived tanked, stayed tanked and left tanked. Their first question wasn't 'where's my room?' but 'where's the bar?'

  Thanks again for the advice! Cheers!

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000
Date: 20 Feb 2000 01:50:36 +0100




Johan Dada Vis wrote:

> read this @ dusty groove:
>
> Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000 (Hymne An Die Zununft) (CD
>      single)
>
> anyone heard it? how does it compare to his older work?

Disappointing. It's not a remarkable record at all. Mediocre melody, sound,
arrangement. I listened to it once and immediately put it in my fleemarket
outbox. You can have it if you want.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 20 Feb 2000 02:13:18 +0100


Nat Kone wrote:

> But it was a tactical error on Brother Moritz's part to use the word
> "verboten" in his post.  That word has frightening implications for anyone
> who's ever watched Hogan's Heroes.   It makes everything else he tries to
> say here ineffective and highly suspect.

Something's telling me, you are not nice to me... I guess it is this "...*tries*
to say" that you use here. As I never saw Hogan's Heroes I can't read between the
lines what you are talking about. Probably something with Nazis as usual. Don't
worry: I don't want to put you in a gas chamber, just because I use an unamerican
word...

>The word Shriner sounds exactely like the German word Schreiner, which
>means carpenter...

OK, I went through the dictionaries. The word shrine as for a container of ritual
things, later for temple is actually older than the word Schreiner, yet the
latter somehow stems from the first. So I take back my assumption of the Shriners
being a carpenter's guild. The connection between a religious group and a temple
seems more likely anyway.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000
Date: 19 Feb 2000 20:32:50 EST


In a message dated 2/19/00 10:52:49 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<<
 Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000 (Hymne An Die Zununft) (CD
      single)

 anyone heard it? how does it compare to his older work?

         Johan >>

It is defintely worth picking up, although some of this list's members may
think some of the remixes are to techno-ey.

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From: Will Louviere <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) eBAY IS DEAD!  LONG LIVE eBAY + Raymond Scott & the
Date: 19 Feb 2000 17:48:42 -0800


>In my dead horse kicking dept., I will say this:
>
>1) It's never been a better time to sell records on eBay.
>
>2) It's never been a worse time to buy records on eBay.


dude, keith, you are hella funny. that shit is sooooooooo true. theres a
couple of new bidder
guys that keep blowing up auctions. Superneu! is actually a really nice
seeming guy though.
He's from Spain, and all I can imagine is that A: they don't have a lotta
good records in Spain,
and B: He's a gotta bumch of money that he has to spend really, really fast.

Speaking of dead horse subjects, i hope to god that none of you guys
actually read my zoned
out ebay/thrift store diatribe the other day. i re-read it the "morning
after" and was totally
embarrased.



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any of you guys ever heard that album The Unexpected by raymond Scott ?
Just found a copy
and have been listening to it all week. It is blowing my mind. Was this
ever released on cd ???



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From: Ross 'Mambo Frenzy' Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Epiphany
Date: 19 Feb 2000 23:47:00 -0500


On Tuesday Nat wrote:
>When I started on this road, I was only interested in the stuff with what
>you might call more "overt" dynamics.  Lots of percussion, stereo effects,
>bird calls, whatever.  Extreme arrangements.  Command stuff being a prime
>example.
>
>But now I enjoy a well-arranged tune.  Percy Faith, Kostelanetz, Billy Vaughn.

I had a flashback to this post of Nat's tonight. . .

Preparing for some CD burning (and the exotica ring trades), I've
been systematically listening through my *entire* collection again,
playing at least a little blip from every track of every LP.

So far, I've listened to about 70 records, some of them for the first
time in years.

My most startling critical reappraisal so far: Hugo Winterhalter is a GOD.

I guess I'm speaking here mainly about _ ...Goes South of the
Border_, plus a few things from _ ...Goes Latin_.

I think the first time I played through his records, I was fairly
repelled by the string-heavy arrangements, and the lush, echoey
recording.

But I don't know, maybe it was listening with headphones, or
listening to a few Werner Mueller records first that recalibrated the
lush-o-meter, or what. . . but somehow the scales fell from my ears.
Now I'm totally grooving on Hugo.  Somehow I'm seeing past the
conventional string parts, to all the lovely warped little flourishes
he adds to his arrangements. . .

Yours in Winterhalter idolatry,

  --Ross

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000
Date: 20 Feb 2000 02:23:41 -0500


At 1:48 PM -0500 2/17/00, Johan Dada Vis wrote:

>Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000 (Hymne An Die Zununft) (CD
>     single)
>
>anyone heard it? how does it compare to his older work?

The remixes are fair, imho.....a little too much in the progressive trance
bag for my taste. But I thought the new PT original which closes the CD was
super.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000
Date: 20 Feb 2000 12:13:15 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> It is defintely worth picking up, although some of this list's members may
> think some of the remixes are to techno-ey.

Techno-ey? Yes, but that alone is not the problem: they are too old-fashioned,
that's the problem. It's the kind of techno of the very early 90s. It sounds
like "Frankie Goes To Hollywood meet the Pet Shop Boys in Heteroland". And as
for this last track, "Love Theme for Mondra Diamond", that is even more
old-fashioned - and very cheesy too.

BTW: The booklet says, that Perry Rhodan will be published as a radio play by
March 2000, available on cassettes. Strange that nobody ever attempted to film
this sci-fi classic. These books are around for 4 decades now and the volumes
go into the thousands. I used to read it when I was a kid. It only shows - who
am I to judge, but - that the German film has never had a sense for pop
subjects.

OK... this is ebay exclusively for the exotica list: I sell Perry Rhodan. The
bids start at 50 cents, postage to the debit of the buyer, auction closes in 3
days, mail me offlist. Go!

Mo



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 07:33:16 EST


In a message dated 2/19/00 5:11:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< That word has frightening implications for anyone
 who's ever watched Hogan's Heroes.  >>

Now here is a thread I can join in on.  I heard that when they tried to run
"Seinfeld" in Germany that no one was watching so they replaced it with
reruns of "Hogan's Heroes" because the German people find that show so funny.

Any comments Mo???

TB
(momentarily de-lurking)


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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 20 Feb 2000 07:35:39 EST


In a message dated 2/19/00 5:11:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Not only that but doesn't anyone else find it curious that the exotica
 mailing list questionnaire contains the question "Do you own a fez?"
 What the hell does that have to do with anything? >>

this is the way the evil powers on the List identify who is a Shriner and
that way we don't make fun of those peoples posts.

tiki bob
(wearing a fez as i type)


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / fez
Date: 20 Feb 2000 13:54:13 +0100




[e-mail] wrote:

>
> Do you own a fez?"
>  What the hell does that have to do with anything? >>
>
> this is the way the evil powers on the List identify who is a Shriner and
> that way we don't make fun of those peoples posts.
>
> tiki bob
> (wearing a fez as i type)

I'm not sure if I'm still allowed to post German words here, but I just have
to mention that Fez is a German slang word for "fun". That doesn't mean now
that I'm presuming that the Fez originally was a German carnival hat...

Mo
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 13:57:02 +0100


Hey, Tikibob, back on the scene?

[e-mail] wrote:

> I heard that when they tried to run
> "Seinfeld" in Germany that no one was watching so they replaced it with
> reruns of "Hogan's Heroes" because the German people find that show so funny.

That's absolute nonsense. 1.  Seinfeld is pretty successful and 2. if I don't
know Hogan's Heroes I doubt anybody else will. I would be really surprised, if
it was running on German TV. What is it anyway, for Chrissake?

Mo

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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000
Date: 20 Feb 2000 08:48:27 -0600


<color><param>0000,0000,FF00</param>> BTW: The booklet says, that Perry Rhodan will be published as a radio play by

> March 2000, available on cassettes. Strange that nobody ever attempted to film

> this sci-fi classic.



</color>There WAS one Perry Rhodan film made in 1967 -- "Perry Rhodan: SOS
aus dem Weltall", released in the U.S. as "Mission Stardust" (German-
Italian-Spanish co-production). Don't know how faithful it is to the
books.  Leonard Maltin's movie guide calls it "worthless".




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Peter Thomas Sound Orchestra - Perry Rhodan 2000
Date: 20 Feb 2000 16:38:23 +0100




Darrell Brogdon wrote:

> > BTW: The booklet says, that Perry Rhodan will be published as a radio play by
> > March 2000, available on cassettes. Strange that nobody ever attempted to film
> > this sci-fi classic.
>
> There WAS one Perry Rhodan film made in 1967 -- "Perry Rhodan: SOS aus dem Weltall", released in the U.S. as "Mission Stardust" (German- Italian-Spanish co-production). Don't know how faithful it is to the books. Leonard Maltin's movie guide calls it "worthless".

Really? I have to check that out! Thanks 4 the info!
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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 09:37:04 -0800


>That's absolute nonsense. 1.  Seinfeld is pretty successful and 2. if I don't
>know Hogan's Heroes I doubt anybody else will.

You're dead wrong there; it's a very beloved show. If you never saw
Hogan's Heroes, you missed what was definitely one of the classic tv
shows of all time.  Starred Bob Crane as Col. Hogan, Werner Klemperer as
the monicled Col. Klink, and even Richard Dawson before his fame later on
"Family Feud".  It was the story of a German P.O.W. camp populated by
Americans during WW II.  Most of the time the action was centered on the
Americans devising ways of trying to escape from the camp, although they
really had a cordial relationship with their German captors (everything
being considered!)  Even though the story centers on war time, it was
most definitely a comedy.  It's hard to believe you have never seen an
episode of it.  It was quite popular during its prime-time run and I'd be
surprised if it wasn't shown overseas as well.

Regards,
--bj
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ray Martin and Peter Thomas
Date: 20 Feb 2000 19:04:15 +0100


thanx to basic Hip, i'm enjoying right now 2 albums from 1965 by Ray
Martin: "Thunderball And Other Thriller Music" & "Goldfinger And Other
Music From James Bond Thrillers".
what surprised me was the sound and arrangement similarity between several
of the tracks on these 2, and Peter Thomas' "Raumpatrouille" soundtrack
from a year later. i can't explain what exactly that similarity is, but it
has to do with the way the wordless vocals and horn sections flow
together...

        Johan

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Air
Date: 20 Feb 2000 19:07:55 +0100


Among all the new records one gets to listen to, there are some you
like, maybe even buy and listen to a couple of times and some very few,
that you LOVE and listen to over and over again. My present particular
record of that kind is Moon Safari by Air. Anybody else who shares this
and can tell me why I like it so much? No, I take it back; too much
knowledge might spoil the fun of it. Did anyone hear the new album by
Air already, the film music of Virgin Suicides?

Mo



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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 19:30:51 +0100


B.J. wrote:

> >That's absolute nonsense. 1.  Seinfeld is pretty successful and 2. if I don't
> >know Hogan's Heroes I doubt anybody else will.
>
> You're dead wrong there; it's a very beloved show. If you never saw
> Hogan's Heroes, you missed what was definitely one of the classic tv
> shows of all time.

Darling, I was talking about Germany, you  missed that part of the story.

Mo

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners? A possible solution
Date: 20 Feb 2000 12:52:20 -0500


You know, any conscious person need to be aware of conspiracies and how to
protect yourself from their evil influences. I find luminaria, protective
candles, are very effective protections against all kinds of nuisances and
dangers. Don't know if there are luminaria that can guard you against the
malevolent reach of Masons, Shriners, Rosecrusians, Knights of the Templar,
Deists, Rotarians, Jaycees and Jaycettes, Good Sams, Brownie Troops, or the
minions of the Optimists Club. I can, however, vouch for the effectiveness
of the luminaria we burn to protect us from alien abduction. Ever since we
started using ours, there have been no alien abductions from Rancho Deluxe.
It really works.

Posted in the spirit of service. And let's hear it for the 300,000
Austrians who protested the Haider government.
Mimi




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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 13:39:21 EST


Hogan's Heroes  was held back from German viewers for quite a few years and
when was finally brought to German airwaves, it was dubbed it was brought up
to date with dialog like "The American's have bombed Berlin with condoms."


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Raymond Scott & the Secret Seven
Date: 20 Feb 2000 09:23:26 EST


In a message, [e-mail] writes:
>>any of you guys ever heard that album The Unexpected by raymond Scott?
>>Just found a copy and have been listening to it all week. It is blowing my
mind.
>>Was this ever released on cd ???
>>.WILL

    Hi Will:  No, it's never been on CD.  But Basta Records
(www.BastaMusic.com) is interested in releasing it...

    http://RaymondScott.com







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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) birds in music (FW project)
Date: 20 Feb 2000 12:11:41 -0800


Hey Exotica people,

I'm forwarding this from another music list I'm on.  I know you
knowledgeable people can help him out:

To reply directly to the person requesting the info:
Kevin Renick
mailto:[e-mail]


>Anyway, here is my question. I am
doing
> an article and a project on "The history of bird song in music." I am
trying
> to gather recordings from EVERY MUSICAL GENRE that incorporate some type
of
> bird song in the composition. These recordings tend to fall into two
> categories. 1.) Compositions that feature actual bird songs as a
PROMINENT
> element in the piece. 2.) Compositions in which the instruments, such as
> synthesizer, flute, etc. attempt to simulate or evoke bird songs.
>    If you need examples of what I'm talking about, Eno has several pieces
on
> "On Land" which use bird songs, such as "A Clearing" and "Unfamilar
Wind."
> So does the title track of his collaboration with Harold Budd, "The
Plateaux
> of Mirror." From the world of pop music, two pieces I'm using so far
include
> the Beatles' "Blackbird" and Pink Floyd's early piece "Grantchester
> Meadows."  I am asking ANY of you who are aware of pieces which feature
bird
> songs in some way to contact me. I especially need ambient and classical
> pieces, but if you know of any jazz, folk or rock pieces that qualify,
those
> would be appreciated also. If any of you out there has special knowledge
of
> this limited category of recordings, I might be willing to pay you to be
a
> consultant on this project. This is going to be a major project presented
to
> nature organizations around the country, and it will likely be published
as
> an article somewhere. This is a serious request, and I would be most
> grateful for any knowledgeable responses. Thank you very much for your
help.
> Whether you just have one suggestion or many, I'll be happy to hear from
> you.
> Sincerely,
> Kevin Renick,
> St. Louis, MO.



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From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) eBAY IS DEAD!  LONG LIVE eBAY + Raymond Scott & theSecret Seven
Date: 20 Feb 2000 18:57:57 -0000


spain certainly does have lots and lots of very very fine music.



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From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners?
Date: 20 Feb 2000 18:56:19 -0000


hey man do you think shriners are good sitar players, or do they specialize
in tabla.

anyway this thread seems realy tedious, and not really appropriate.


Cheers


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 19:58:12 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> Hogan's Heroes  was held back from German viewers for quite a few years and
> when was finally brought to German airwaves, it was dubbed it was brought up
> to date with dialog like "The American's have bombed Berlin with condoms."

"Held back", jeesh, maybe it just didn't sell!

This whole thread makes me thinking. All these myths circulating in the air
about what and how and who in other parts of the world, the myths of America
about Germany, the European myths about the US... apart from conspiracy
theories, we all seem to have picked up quite a lot of stories that we think
are really true, but often enough they fail. It's good to cummunicate about it,
although I get the feeling we drift away more and more off the purposes of this
list.

BTW: Some years ago I read the results of an extensive international research
about the knowledge of the youth of the world of other countries, i.e. what do
young people know about the rest of the world. And the best informed youth of
the world was:
The Austrian! You didn't expect that, did you? Test your prejudices!

The concentration camp is in our heads. Free your minds, exoticans!

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 11:06:12 -0800


>B.J. wrote:
>
>> >That's absolute nonsense. 1.  Seinfeld is pretty successful and 2. if I
>don't
>> >know Hogan's Heroes I doubt anybody else will.
>>
>> You're dead wrong there; it's a very beloved show. If you never saw
>> Hogan's Heroes, you missed what was definitely one of the classic tv
>> shows of all time.
>
>Darling, I was talking about Germany, you  missed that part of the story.

I saw that you were talking about Germany.  But most of the successful tv
shows in the U.S. have made it to the overseas market.  I know that
"Dallas", for instance, was extremely popular in Germany, so I would
assume that Germany broadcast other U.S. shows as well.

Regards,
--bj
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Air
Date: 20 Feb 2000 14:26:14 EST


In a message dated 2/20/00 1:10:43 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Did anyone hear the new album by
 Air already, the film music of Virgin Suicides? >>


If you liked "Moon Safari" you'll like "Virgin Suicides." It definitely has a
bit of a '70s flavor to it (in line with the time period of the movie) which
is why the Air have called it their "Dark Side Of The Moon Safari"!

Ashley


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Date: 20 Feb 2000 14:40:27 EST



In a message dated 2/20/0 2:00:58 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Free your minds, exoticans!

"and your ass will follow"...G. Clinton


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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 15:16:16 EST


In a message dated 2/20/00 12:37:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Most of the time the action was centered on the
 Americans devising ways of trying to escape from the camp,  >>

Wrong, they could have escaped anytime.  They were constantly going and
coming from the camp while sabotaging the German's war efforts.  It was so
funny because they were doing all this stuff right under the German's noses!

God, I am having to de-lurk to explain Hogan's Heroes.

I know NOOOOOOOOOTHINK ! ! !

TB


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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lord Kitchener
Date: 20 Feb 2000 21:14:03 +0100


Keith:

>He was the most incredible of all calypso singers, in my opinion.  Anyone
>who hears the song "Tongue-Tied Mopsie" will have to agree, this man was a
>consummate artist, no less original and influential in his idiom than
Robert
>Johnson to the blues, or, closer to home, Joseph Spence.

Anyone can recommend a good "best of" that is still available for starters?
Heard his obituary on the World Service the other week, I really didn't know
he wrote "London is the place for me"


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From: "Ponak, David" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 1/22/00
Date: 20 Feb 2000 12:32:11 -0800


The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7
FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County).

Also check out my show  The Nice Age at  http://www.spikeradio.com on Sunday
afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST.

The Liquid Room-2/13/00:

1.The Association-Come On In
Birthday (Warner Bros.)

2.Chappie-Chappie's Attack
New Chappie (Sony Japan)

3.Francis Lai-Party Music-Show Out
I'll Never Forget What's 'Isname Soundtrack (Decca)

4.Arling & Cameron-W.E.E.K.E.N.D.
Music For Imaginary Films (Emperor Norton)

5.Chisato Moritaka-Tokyo Rush (Duet with Harry Hosono)
This Summer Will Be More Better (Zetima-Japan)

6.Singers Unlimited-You Are The Sunshine Of My Life
Feeling Free (MPS)

7.Yellow Magic Orchestra-Behind The Mask (FPM Remix)
YMO Remixes-Technopolis 2000-01 (Victor-Japan)

8.Tubeway Army-Me I Disconnect From You
Replicas (Beggars Banquet)

9.Katerine (with Kahimi Karie)-Jamais Je Ne Tai Dit
Les Creatures (Rosebud-France)

10.Fuschimuschi-My Number One
Single (Rephlex-UK)

11.Charles Fox/Jack Wild-Pufnstuf
Pufnstuf Soundtrack (Capitol)

12.Betrand Burgalat-Glucide
Dans Le Yeaux D'April March (Tricatel-France)

13.The Heavy Blinkers-Summer Won't Ask You Twice
The Heavy Blinkers (Brobdingnagian)
This is a GREAT pop record. Fans of XTC and Beach Boys must check it out.

14.Tom Scott with The California Dreamers-Today
The Honeysuckle Breeze (Impulse)

15.Georgio Moroder-Chase
Midnight Express Soundtrack (Casablanca)

16..The Heavy Blinkers-Crowned Miss Fire Prevention
The Heavy Blinkers (Brobdingnagian)

17.Groove Armada-At The River
Vertigo (Jive)

18.Cambodian Rocks-A2
Love Peace And Poetry-Asian Psychedelic Music (QDK-Germany)

19.Merl Saunders-Michael's Scarborough Fair
Heavy Traffic Soundtrack (Fantasy)

20.Angelo Badalamenti And Orbital-Beached
The Beach Soundtrack (London)

21.Cornelius-Rock '96
69/96 (Trattoria-Japan)

22.Noel Harrison-Strawberry Fields Forever
Collage (Reprise)

23.The Cure-The Loudest Sound
Bloodflowers (Fiction/Elektra)

24.New Order-Brutal
The Beach Soundtrack (London)

25.Puffy-Peace
Single (Sony-Japan)

26.Glen Campbell-Dreams Of The Everyday Housewife
The Capitol Years 66/77 (Compiled by Bob & Pete of Saint Etienne!)
(Zonophone-UK)

27.Yo La Tengo-Let's Save Tony Orlando's House
And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside Out (Matador)

28.Michel Polnareff-Ame Caline
Les Premiere Annes (Univeral-France)

29.Wondermints-Silly Places
7" single (Pop Psycle)

30.Seksu Roba-Party On Saturn
Seksu Roba (Demo)

31.Neil Young-Transformer Man
Trans (Geffen)

32.The Golden Orchestra & Chorus-Hydrogen & Helium
The Space Alphabet (Golden)

33.DJ Me DJ You-Video City Boy
Rainbows & Robots (Emperor Norton)

34.The Jupiter Affect-Ice Cream Lolly
Instructions For The Two Ways Of Becoming Alice (Eggbert)

35.The Tokens-Portrait Of My Love
It's A Happening World (WB)

36.Seely-Plances Circle Do
Winter Birds (Koch)

37.Eels-A Daisy Through Concrete
Daisy's Of The Galaxy (Dreamworks)

38.Mark Wirtz-Satan Took A Tram Ride
Kitschinsync (RPM)

39.DJ Chebi Sabbah-Shri Durga (State Of Bengal Mix)
Maha Maya (Six Degrees)

40.Dave Gruisin-The Girl From Uncle
The Girl From Uncle Soundtrack (MGM)

41.Melon-The Gate Of Japonesia
Deep Cut (Sony-Japan)

42.The Heavy Blinkers-Dressing Down
The Heavy Blinkers (Brobdingnagian)

43.Michael Nesmith-Joanne
The Older Stuff (Rhino)

44.The Negro Problem-Come Down Now
Joys & Concerns (Aerial Flipout)

45.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On
Someday Man (Reprise)


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Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 12:58:42 -0800


><< Most of the time the action was centered on the
> Americans devising ways of trying to escape from the camp,  >>
>
>Wrong, they could have escaped anytime.  They were constantly going and
>coming from the camp while sabotaging the German's war efforts.  It was so
>funny because they were doing all this stuff right under the German's noses!

Sorry, but that's not *quite* how I remember it (and yes, it's been a
very long time since I've seen an episode of the show so I am doing this
from memory).  What I remember is that the Frenchman and the Richard
Dawson character were building items to help with their escape,
especially items like radios and such so they could listen in and figure
out what was going on.  But even when they were coming and going from the
camp itself as you say, it doesn't mean they could have just left
*entirely* anytime they wanted to!  At least, I've never heard of POW's
who stayed put of their own will when there was a chance that they could
go free...

Regards,
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 21:58:23 +0100




[e-mail] wrote:

> >Free your minds, exoticans!
>
> "and your ass will follow"...G. Clinton

YEsss! Move Ahead!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 16:58:11 EST


In a message dated 2/20/00 4:06:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< But even when they were coming and going from the
 camp itself as you say, it doesn't mean they could have just left
 *entirely* anytime they wanted to!  At least, I've never heard of POW's
 who stayed put of their own will when there was a chance that they could
 go free... >>

yes it does, they stayed because they were more successful fighting the war
from inside the camp than if they would have escaped.



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From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 14:03:36 -0800


B.J. Major ([e-mail]) wrote:

> ><< Most of the time the action was centered on the
> > Americans devising ways of trying to escape from the camp,  >>
> >
> >Wrong, they could have escaped anytime.  They were constantly going and
> >coming from the camp while sabotaging the German's war efforts.  It was
so
> >funny because they were doing all this stuff right under the German's
noses!
>
> Sorry, but that's not *quite* how I remember it (and yes, it's been a
> very long time since I've seen an episode of the show so I am doing this
> from memory).  What I remember is that the Frenchman and the Richard
> Dawson character were building items to help with their escape,
> especially items like radios and such so they could listen in and figure
> out what was going on.  But even when they were coming and going from the
> camp itself as you say, it doesn't mean they could have just left
> *entirely* anytime they wanted to!  At least, I've never heard of POW's
> who stayed put of their own will when there was a chance that they could
> go free...

Nope.

They could have escaped anytime they wanted (even LeBeau and Newkirk) - they
were not 'standard' POWs however. Their task was to:

1. assist the underground in getting shot down flyers back to England,
2. lead regional sabotage efforts,
3. confound General Burkhalter and Major Hochstetter,
4. tell some jokes, party a bit, and try to scam on Hilga and Helga.

Keep in mind that this show was crafted in Hollywood circa 1965. This
premise is most certainly possible and believable. Now Petticoat Junction on
the other hand ...

Erik
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 20 Feb 2000 17:29:22 EST


In a message dated 2/20/00 5:05:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< They could have escaped anytime they wanted (even LeBeau and Newkirk) -
they
 were not 'standard' POWs however. Their task was to:

 1. assist the underground in getting shot down flyers back to England,
 2. lead regional sabotage efforts,
 3. confound General Burkhalter and Major Hochstetter,
 4. tell some jokes, party a bit, and try to scam on Hilga and Helga.

 Keep in mind that this show was crafted in Hollywood circa 1965. This
 premise is most certainly possible and believable. Now Petticoat Junction on
 the other hand ...

 Erik >>

Thank God someone got this right!      Muchos Mahalos!!!!!!

And oh to get either Hilga or Helga (or both!) alone with a bottle of
champagne on a cold Bavarian evening!

Hier Tiki Bob


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hogan's Heroes
Date: 20 Feb 2000 18:34:55 -0500


Good gravy, but things have taken a peculiar turn this weekend.

Trying desperately to yank things back to relevance, here's a HH web page
which mentions spinoff albums as well a Christmas music/variety show, which
included Bing Crosby as a guest!
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2545/info.htm

Mo? Perhaps you heard of the show under its German title: "Ein KΣfig voller
Helden".

But aren't we really more interested in the way-out life (and death) of
star, Bob Crane?
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/7060/hogan.htm


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From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Air
Date: 20 Feb 2000 16:34:07 -0800


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of [e-mail]
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:26 AM

> If you liked "Moon Safari" you'll like "Virgin Suicides." It
> definitely has a
> bit of a '70s flavor to it (in line with the time period of the
> movie) which
> is why the Air have called it their "Dark Side Of The Moon Safari"!

It's a bit prog-sounding -- not really the same kind of vaguely kitschy
stuff on "Moon Safari." It's clear that a few tracks are taken straight from
Pink Floyd (I didn't see the CD booklet, so I don't know if they're real
samples). One track, if I remember correctly, starts out with the piano
opening from "The Great Gig in the Sky," for example. "Suicide Underground"
has a drum beat faintly reminiscent of... "Any Colour You Like?" Side 2 of
"Wish You Were Here?" Or maybe the ending credits of a Dario Argento movie?

Later,
Ben

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hogan's Heroes
Date: 21 Feb 2000 01:53:01 +0100




m.ace wrote:

> Good gravy, but things have taken a peculiar turn this weekend.
>
> Mo? Perhaps you heard of the show under its German title: "Ein K=E4fig =
voller
> Helden".     mmmmmh... no, doesn't ring a bell. anyway, if it did run h=
ere,
> at least it didn't make a big impression on the public.
>
> But aren't we really more interested in the way-out life (and death) of
> star, Bob Crane?

yeah, right. I think this thread's over; I enjoyed it, thanks to all of y=
ou!


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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 20 Feb 2000 16:56:44 -0800


On 2/10/00, [e-mail] said:

>But Summer Samba did not "rule" the airwaves. It gained a respectable
>position, reaching #26 on the U.S. pop charts and was a nine week hit.

According to information I have been given by Claudio Slon, the drummer
on the WW 'Rain Forest' LP, "Summer Samba" reached #3 in Billboard
Magazine's singles chart.

Regards,
--bj
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From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 20 Feb 2000 20:00:36 -0500


Check your Whitburn:  "Summer Samba" made it to #26 on 10/01/66 and stayed
in the Top 40 for four weeks.   LT




>>But Summer Samba did not "rule" the airwaves. It gained a respectable
>>position, reaching #26 on the U.S. pop charts and was a nine week hit.
>
>According to information I have been given by Claudio Slon, the drummer
>on the WW 'Rain Forest' LP, "Summer Samba" reached #3 in Billboard
>Magazine's singles chart.
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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 20 Feb 2000 17:12:50 -0800


>Check your Whitburn:  "Summer Samba" made it to #26 on 10/01/66 and stayed
>in the Top 40 for four weeks.   LT

Sorry, but in this case I believe Claudio.  And it was in the top 40 for
way more than four weeks!!!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hogan's Heroes
Date: 20 Feb 2000 20:29:31 EST


In a message dated 2/20/00 7:55:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20
[e-mail] writes:

<< yeah, right. I think this thread's over; I enjoyed it, thanks to all of=20
you!
=20
=20
 Mo
  >>

i don't think so!  and what is the real translation of "Ein K=E4fig voller=20
Helden" anyway!

oh, this poor site comes up first on the search engine but only has 207 hits=
.

tb


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hogan's Heroes
Date: 20 Feb 2000 20:38:37 EST


ok guys, here is the skinny:

http://www.ulink.net/~archbishop/Hogan/intro.html

and for records:

http://www.ulink.net/~archbishop/Hogan/records.html

yeah, records!  ain't that what this damn list is about????????

Achtung!

TB
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From: Lang Thompson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Videoze
Date: 20 Feb 2000 21:04:41 -0500


>>Check your Whitburn:  "Summer Samba" made it to #26 on 10/01/66 and stayed
>>in the Top 40 for four weeks.   LT
>
>Sorry, but in this case I believe Claudio.  And it was in the top 40 for
>way more than four weeks!!!


Not in the US; perhaps in Brazil or Europe.
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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 20 Feb 2000 22:14:34 -0500


I can't believe that there's been so much "discussion" generated by my
silly reference to Hogan's Heroes in my even sillier post about conspiracies.
Lately my attempts at online humour have been frequently misinterpreted so
maybe it's time I give it a rest.
(Which is not to say that I don't believe in conspiracies.  I just don't
think any conspiracy worth its salt would ever enlist Moritz.  Unless the
conspiracy involved Les Baxter records.)
But anyway, all this Hogan's Heroes stuff reminds me of this time I was in
a bar and they were talking pretty loud at the table next to me, and you
couldn't help but overhear.
They were talking about the great mysteries of the world.  True mysteries,
as I remember.  Stonehenge-type mysteries.
And one of them said "You know what the greatest mystery of all time is?"
The whole room got quiet, waiting for a moment of enlightenment.
"The murder of Bob Crane", he said.

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Subject: (exotica) don't waste time on tv
Date: 20 Feb 2000 22:37:56 -0500


Listy stuff on US tv this week (eastern times)

Profiles: Louis Armstrong
Bravo - Monday night, 10:00pm, 1:00am
Tuesday morning, 11:00am

The President's Analyst (1967)
AMC - Monday night, 10:30pm, 4:45am

Baby Doll (1956)
Bravo - Late Monday, 3:00am
Tuesday afternoon, 1:00pm

Profiles: Isaac Hayes
Bravo - Tuesday night, 10:00pm, 1:00am
Wednesday morning, 11:00am

Viva Las Vegas (1964)
TCM - Wednesday night, 8:00pm

The Producers (1968)
TCM - Thursday morning, 10:00am

Profiles: Charles Mingus
Bravo - Thursday night, 10:30pm, 3:00am

Reptilicus (1962)
(includes tour of Tivoli amusement park)
AMC - Thursday night, 12:45am

Lolita (1962)
TCM - Saturday morning, 6:00am

Robin And The Seven Hoods (1964)
AMC - Saturday afternoon, 1:45pm

Ocean's Eleven (1960)
AMC - Saturday night, 10:05pm, 4:05am

more listings available at the usual place

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Who are these guys anyway?/World Standard
Date: 20 Feb 2000 23:48:58 EST


In a message dated 2/17/00 1:40:55 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<< Can anyone fill in the blanks on these 4 CDs that I saw there?
Shouold I go back and get any of them?

****************

World Standard: Country Gazette (Asphodel;1997;$4.99) >>

You should pick this one up for sure. It's ambient Western/Country music from
Japan, with lots of Banjo & Electronics, and some weird exotic moves.
It's a very cool, likeable cd.
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Subject: (exotica) taipei report
Date: 20 Feb 2000 21:01:34 PST




Hiya William,

>i must admit i do miss going to  >thrifts and buying vinyl but for now its
>really not an option.
>          william in taipei

How's record hunting in Taiwan? Care to report on the music scene?
Inquiring minds, etc. And thanks! Mimi


hi mimi and all,

  well as for record hunting vinyl itself is nearly non-existent. i know of
a few used shops that sell some and tower and fnac has a little. but very
little would be worth reporting for this list. you can find a little lounge
stuff here. i mean on cd. you know ultralounge mainly oh and the hifi
series. the big bookstore chain here - eslite- just opened up a music shop.
the buyer for the shop used to run my favourite shop "avantgarden" but he
closed it in january to concentrate on his new job i think. anyways, this
shop in general is more expensive (expensive here means 14-20 dollars. on
average cds here cost 12 u.s. dollars or less most of my taiwanese friends
would not even consider buying stuff that costs 15 bucks). however they have
certain discs marked down to about 6 bucks u.s. i picked up the its a
mad..world ost, chitty chitty ost, 3 hifi comps, all for 6 bucks each. but
finding stuff like martin denny or even esquivel is quite hard. or it will
be expensive. i think tower is the only place that really carries stuff like
that and they are rather expensive by taiwan standards. of course if j-pop
is your thing taiwan has most places beat. most shops have a selection of
j-pop comps which i beleive are bootlegs and sell for about 3 bucks each.
outside japan the biggest market for japanese music is taiwan. i've managed
to get many p-5 and fpm releases for around 10 bucks or less. of course the
early p5 stuff is more expensive. hk and tokyo both have a better selection
of vinyl and you will probably find more goodies there. of course it will
probably be more expensive as well. these places (hk and tokyo) also have
more shops to choose from than here in taipei.

  hope that gives you a general idea mimi. if you want more details just
drop me a line. oh and one question for the list in general. when i was at
the eslite music store i saw this series called something like "instrumental
sixties" french instrumentals from the 60s of course. comments on this? are
they worth spending money on?

         william in taipei.


ps. i recently caught the middle of this movie that i think was called
something like "the day i got up on the day i died" or something. but the
music sounded really sort of lounge and the movie itself had no dialogue. or
very little.i believe christina ricci has a small role as a prostitute.
anyone recognize this from my weak description? is there a soundtrack?
comments?





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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 21 Feb 2000 00:02:40 -0500


At 10:14 PM -0500 2/20/00, Nat Kone wrote:

>But anyway, all this Hogan's Heroes stuff reminds me of this time I was in
>a bar and they were talking pretty loud at the table next to me, and you
>couldn't help but overhear.
>........... "You know what the greatest mystery of all time is?"
>The whole room got quiet, waiting for a moment of enlightenment.
>"The murder of Bob Crane", he said.

man.........I'm going to the wrong bars!!!

trying to get there before last call,
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Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 02/21/00
Date: 21 Feb 2000 00:22:44 -0800


Week of 02/21/00

The Friendly Persuasion Show

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna
Internet Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week
to hear:

1.  Enoch Light - Marrakesh Express
2.  Bob Chance - Van Man
3.  The Electric Prunes Play That "Wah Wah" Pedal
4.  Rodd Keith - Beat of the Traps
5.  Soul Survivors - Expressway (To Your Heart)
6.  The Brady Bunch - It's A Sunshine Day
7.  The Rutles - Ouch!
8.  The Muppet Show - The Amazing Marvin Suggs and his Muppaphone Play
"Lady of Spain"
9.  Charlie Chan - My Boyfriend's Learning Karate
10.  Sunshine Company - I Hate Pigeons
11.  Dion - Purple Haze
12.  Paul Click - Smokey, Trucks & CB Radios
13.  Willis Brothers - Convoy in the Sky
14.  Enoch Light - Scarborough Fair
15.  Mort Garson & Jacques Wilson - Leave The Driving To Us
16.  Temple City Kazoo Orchestra - Miss You
17.  Hugo Montenegro - Like a Rolling Stone
18.  Senator Sam J. Ervin Jr. - Bridge Over Troubled Water
19.  Ellis Chadbourne - Pagan Love Song
20.  Swinging Erudites - Springtime For Hitler
21.  Temple City Kazoo Orchestra - Whole Lotta Love
22.  Mary Lee Fair - Our Love
23.  Mort Garson & Jacques Wilson - Thing-a-ling
24.  Bermuda Jam - Good Trip Lollipop
25.  Kermit The Frog - Bein' Green


Thanks for listening,

Otis

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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) shriners / Hogan's Heros
Date: 21 Feb 2000 04:23:59 EST



In a message dated 2/20/0 3:17:12 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>God, I am having to de-lurk to explain Hogan's Heroes

While you're at it, and I'm sure you've been waiting for someone to ask, "HOW
WAS YOUR VISIT WITH MARTIN DENNY?" (and welcome back)


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Subject: (exotica) Re:
Date: 21 Feb 2000 04:42:42 EST



In a message dated 2/20/0 7:58:12 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>According to information I have been given by Claudio Slon, the drummer
>on the WW 'Rain Forest' LP, "Summer Samba" reached #3 in Billboard
>Magazine's singles chart.

BJ, love your postings, but please get off the "All Wanderly All The Time"
tip.  The big man, Joel "Fucking" Whitburn clocks Summer Samba in at #26 for
9 weeks in August of Sexty-Sex. Claudio, Shlaudio...we're talking the
literary Casey Kasem here. Why would ww's drummer have the final say on the
tune's chart position?...JB/no reply necessary


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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 21 Feb 2000 04:47:34 EST



In a message dated 2/21/0 12:04:26 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>man.........I'm going to the wrong bars!!!

but you're buying all the right ones

>trying to get there before last call

who cares when U own the joint...JB


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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sleeves
Date: 21 Feb 2000 05:47:04 -0800 (PST)


I mean, probably not,

But does anyone have an extra copy of a 13 fingers of
Sir Julian sleeve lying around?  Mine is... moldy.

Just wondering.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 21 Feb 2000 10:17:20 -0500




Nat Kone quipped:

> I can't believe that there's been so much "discussion" generated by my
> silly reference to Hogan's Heroes in my even sillier post about conspiracies.
> Lately my attempts at online humour have been frequently misinterpreted so
> maybe it's time I give it a rest.

Never shall the silly rest!
Nat here's a hint... the true humor lies in the misinterpretation.

thoroughly enjoying these "discussions",
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 21 Feb 2000 11:12:53 -0500


Nat Kone wrote:

> And one of them said "You know what the greatest mystery of all time is?"
> The whole room got quiet, waiting for a moment of enlightenment.
> "The murder of Bob Crane", he said.

Okay, at the risk of sounding like I'm completely out of it - who the
**** is Bob Crane? (or is this a Hogan's Heroes joke, which would have
gone right over my head because I never watched it...)

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Subject: (exotica) Re:  Exotica favorites
Date: 21 Feb 2000 08:42:20 -0800


>In a message dated 2/20/0 7:58:12 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>According to information I have been given by Claudio Slon, the drummer
>>on the WW 'Rain Forest' LP, "Summer Samba" reached #3 in Billboard
>>Magazine's singles chart.
>
>BJ, love your postings, but please get off the "All Wanderly All The Time"
>tip.  The big man, Joel "Fucking" Whitburn clocks Summer Samba in at #26 for
>9 weeks in August of Sexty-Sex. Claudio, Shlaudio...we're talking the
>literary Casey Kasem here. Why would ww's drummer have the final say on the
>tune's chart position?...JB/no reply necessary

Too bad, because you are getting one anyway.  FYI, most people quote
"Billboard" for a source where chart statistics are concerned, not your
Mr. Whitburn.  I quoted what Claudio said because I am involved in an
upcoming project with him and I have his professional music resume right
in front of me that states what I said above about Summer Samba reaching
the position of number 3.  You can believe who you like, and I'll do the
same--ok?!  Seems fair enough.

And I will keep right on posting my WW Updates & Additions notices here
as well as any other non-WW items of interest to the list; we all have
our favorites in Exotica who get talked about, and WW is definitely
mine--and that isn't going to change.  I see countless posts from others
who talk about Denny, Baxter, Esquivel, et al. and I am respectful of
those posts.  I don't think that asking for the same respect for my
subject is too much to ask.  If you don't want to read my posts, ignore
them; but please don't tell me to quit talking about my subject of
interest.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) taipei report
Date: 21 Feb 2000 10:57:55 -0500


That's great, William. Always curious about the music markets 'round the
world. Your report sort of verified what I'd suspected about Teipei: lots
of J-pop, premium costs for Western pop, limited used vinyl supplies. One
thing surprised me though. As notorious as China is for boot software and
books, I expected a music market flooded with boot CDs. But as you say,
you're  more likely to find boots of p-5 or I'd guess Ricki Martin than
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Shriners
Date: 21 Feb 2000 08:43:58 -0800 (PST)


I for one would supremely dig being a shriner.  I'd
pay dues if I got to wear a fez in a parade and drive
around in circles in a little car.

Who on this list could say that wasn't cool?  Does
anyone know anyone who could get me in?

Especially now that they have little Corvette
Stingrays and little Monster Trucks.

VROOM VROOM!  Boy I'd like to peel out in one of
those.

AND I live in Mason, Ohio.  IS THAT FREAKY OR WHAT???

Plus, my dad was a member of the Kiwanis!  Or, well,
maybe they just sponsered his bowling league.  I
forget.  I used to use his old bowling shirts as art
smocks in kindergarten.  His nickname is "Bud".  Huh?
HOW'S THAT FOR FREAKY??  A coincidence?  NO WAY.

I married a catholic and we are bringing our children
up catholic.  If I could be a Mason, we could ONCE AND
FOR ALL unite the forces of evil and enslave the
world.

I mean, who really wants to rule the world anymore?  I
don't particularly want to rule the world, but it
woudln't be a bad thing.  In fact, I think everyone on
this list should take turns ruling the world.  I'm
sorta busy this week, so if someone else wants to take
the first shift, that's cool.  I'll take next week,
with the non-leap day leap day.  That'll be cool.
Then someone can take over from me after I'm done.

In the meantime, some people really jumped all over
that chick.  For goodness sake, I was even considering
it may have all been tongue in cheek, and yet people
reacted as if she had come in and maintained that
Hitler was good, the earth is flat and sushi actually
tastes good.

We all have different opinions.  If she wants to
believe that there's a huge conspiracy out there, more
power to her.  I for one can't believe that any select
group of humans could keep something like that
together for so long.

But that's just me.

Peter "Gimme My Fez and the Little Tiny Keys" Risser
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Exotica favorites
Date: 21 Feb 2000 12:29:17 -0500


>FYI, most people quote "Billboard" for a source where chart >statistics are concerned, not your Mr. Whitburn.


These are the same thing.  Joel Whitburn's books are compilations of Billboard chart listings and are officially sanctioned by Billboard.  I don't know of any similar books for Cashbox, the only remotely reliable competing charts.


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From: <Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Air
Date: 21 Feb 2000 10:41:37 +0000


I own a few other singles by Air which you should really try to get you=
r
hands on!

The first one is a very heavy 12 with a road on the front, probably Air=
 by
Air. 4 tracks including 'Le Soleiel Est Pres de Mois' (Close to the sun=
) -
the GREATEST Air track ever with a Solina string synth, vocoder, Roland=

Space Echo, Minimoog (or maybe it's a bass guitar) and Rhodes piano (if=

these mean nothing to you, don't worry, they're classic 70s Air/Portish=
ead
sounds). The track can also be found on Premiere Symtomes - a reissue o=
f
their second 12, which is now called an LP and is =A312.99 in HMV (I'm =
sure I
paid a fiver for this a couple of years ago). This is the one with the
spotty insert and cover full of holes. Again, four very cool tracks rea=
lly
worth tracking down.
Casanova 70 - another 12, I thought was a little disappointing at first=
 but
on subsequent listens has livened up a little.
Kelly Watch the Stars Moog Cookbook remix - I have it on a clear vinyl =
7" -
Very funky and well put together and I think this came out on a more re=
cent
12 as well. Very dancefloor friendly.

And yes, Moon Safari is a superb LP. Five stars!


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Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #632
Date: 21 Feb 2000 10:31:50 -0500




A few things:

1. I just picked up "Age of Electronicus" at an Ann Arbor antique shop for a
buck.
I thought I remembered someone here mentioning it was going for 70 bucks on
Ebay, but when I rushed home and checked, the highest it had gone for was 35.
But thats kind of a moot train of thought anyway, as my boyfriend has forbade
me to sell it (and he doesnt even collect records). Am I remembering wrong?
Is my fez on backwards?

2. Exactly how many "Persuasive Percussion" albums are there? or "Provocative
Percussion" or "Premature Percussion" or "Precambrian Percussion"....

3. Has the person on this list (sorry I forget who) who wrote away for info on
the
Hojo Tiki Resort gotten their full colour brocure yet?

4. The Rock N Bowl in Detroit is having a tiki bowling night on tuesday the
29th.
I cant make it, but SOMEONE should! Theyre giving away free tiki mugs! Ross?

5. Anyone heard of "Exotica 1970"?

6. Hogans Heroes. Keep rockin' it!

Aloha,
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From: <Charles_Moseley/LON/Europe/[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:23:17 +0000


And as someone without a television (yes I know its wierd, and what DO I do
all evening? etc etc.), I am thinking Hogan - Hulk Hogan - wrestling? Yes?

And that Flower Power SItar by The Rajput Mutiny (is that right?). Any
recommendations or a description?



Thanks


Charlie


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Exotica Epiphany
Date: 21 Feb 2000 13:47:11 -0500


Yes!

Hugo will be vindicated........

His "Goes South of the Border" is a real treat! (And his covers are =
usually in the "girlie/pin-up/goofy" category.....)

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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Shriners
Date: 21 Feb 2000 14:03:18 -0500


Well, the deepest secret in my family is that, c. 1963,
when we lived in Jarvis, Ontario (population 780) my
father was a keen member of the Lions Club and a star attraction
in the annual minstrel show through which they raised money.
Three years out of four, they'd do it in blackface, and every
fourth year (out of radical multiculturalist sentiment), they'd
go Irish and paint their faces green.  My father did an imitation
of Louis Armstrong, singing, playing his trumpet and mopping his
brow, all of this while adorned with "negro."  And he was a liberal.

A few years ago, they stopped these things, but I still wake up
screaming at the memory.

Will
Will Straw, Associate Professor and Director,
Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University
3465 Peel St.,
Montr=E9al, Qu=E9bec H3A 1W7

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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Snake handling music
Date: 21 Feb 2000 14:00:41 -0500


Okay, here's another "surprise genre" that I couldn't believe actually =
exists.=20

Evidently, those wacky serpent worshipers from the deep south have a very =
unique blend of "Christian rock-a-billy" with synth organ, tamborine and =
the like that are part of the church service.

And this stuff is now available.....anybody know what the hell I'm talking =
about - or was it another one of my weird dreams??? :-0

- Nate




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Ray Martin + The Hellers + sitar
Date: 21 Feb 2000 14:32:37 EST


In a message dated 2/20/00 1:06:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i'm enjoying right now 2 albums from 1965 by Ray
 Martin: "Thunderball And Other Thriller Music" & "Goldfinger And Other
 Music From James Bond Thrillers". >>

I've got to add my extreme high regard for those two LPs.  They are amazing.
Two of the best Bond/spy sound LPs ever!!!!!!!!!!

And as for our pal Basic Hip -- I recently had the priveldge of a preview
listen of his latest cd 2 fer, with The Hellers and a Vincent Bell electric
sitar LP.  OUTSTANDING!  Beautiful graphics, killer sound, and best of all
two great LPs.  That Hellers LP is in the must have category!!!!!!

Best wishes,
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From: [e-mail] (B.R. Rolya)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Who are these guys anyway?/World Standard
Date: 21 Feb 2000 14:49:16 -0500 (EST)



>World Standard: Country Gazette (Asphodel;1997;$4.99) >>
>
>You should pick this one up for sure. It's ambient Western/Country music from
>Japan, with lots of Banjo & Electronics, and some weird exotic moves.
>It's a very cool, likeable cd.

I agree!  It's a project of Haruomi Hosono (Yellow Magic Orchestra).

-BR





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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Shriners
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:53:07 +0100


Just curious: which drug did you take before you wrote this?
...oh, and where I can get it?

Mo


Peter Risser wrote:

> I for one would supremely dig being a shriner.  I'd
> pay dues if I got to wear a fez in a parade and drive
> around in circles in a little car.
>
> Who on this list could say that wasn't cool?  Does
> anyone know anyone who could get me in?
>
> Especially now that they have little Corvette
> Stingrays and little Monster Trucks.
>
> VROOM VROOM!  Boy I'd like to peel out in one of
> those.
>
> AND I live in Mason, Ohio.  IS THAT FREAKY OR WHAT???
>
> Plus, my dad was a member of the Kiwanis!  Or, well,
> maybe they just sponsered his bowling league.  I
> forget.  I used to use his old bowling shirts as art
> smocks in kindergarten.  His nickname is "Bud".  Huh?
> HOW'S THAT FOR FREAKY??  A coincidence?  NO WAY.
>
> I married a catholic and we are bringing our children
> up catholic.  If I could be a Mason, we could ONCE AND
> FOR ALL unite the forces of evil and enslave the
> world.
>
> I mean, who really wants to rule the world anymore?  I
> don't particularly want to rule the world, but it
> woudln't be a bad thing.  In fact, I think everyone on
> this list should take turns ruling the world.  I'm
> sorta busy this week, so if someone else wants to take
> the first shift, that's cool.  I'll take next week,
> with the non-leap day leap day.  That'll be cool.
> Then someone can take over from me after I'm done.
>
> In the meantime, some people really jumped all over
> that chick.  For goodness sake, I was even considering
> it may have all been tongue in cheek, and yet people
> reacted as if she had come in and maintained that
> Hitler was good, the earth is flat and sushi actually
> tastes good.
>
> We all have different opinions.  If she wants to
> believe that there's a huge conspiracy out there, more
> power to her.  I for one can't believe that any select
> group of humans could keep something like that
> together for so long.
>
> But that's just me.
>
> Peter "Gimme My Fez and the Little Tiny Keys" Risser



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From: "paul thomas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) taking the thread to it's logical conclusion...
Date: 21 Feb 2000 12:06:01 -0800


I thought the Shriners were behind Bob Crane's mysterious death.

  cheers!

     ~~Paul


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From: "mofo2148" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Charlie Moseley....
Date: 21 Feb 2000 12:46:39 -0800


Charlie,

I need to respond to you about the WOZARD OF IZ... but I can't seem to
reply to your email address... send me an email i can reply to ..
okay.. thanks in advance.

p.s. - sorry to clutter the list everyone.

-- Otis

Mr. Otis F-Odder
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Subject: (exotica) Re:  Mr Whitburn
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:14:01 EST



In a message dated 2/21/0 11:42:16 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

> FYI, most people quote
>"Billboard" for a source where chart statistics are concerned, not your
>Mr. Whitburn.

One and the same my friend, one and the same....Whitburn uses Billboard to
compile with, check out a book if you don't believe me.  Now I'll step out of
the ring. I know when not to take the bait (usually!)  JB/relied on my Mr.
Whitburn to program top 20 r&b dusties along with obscurities for my local
urban station for 5 years and it worked well for me and my ratings. We had an
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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Re: Exotica favorites
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:17:10 EST



In a message dated 2/21/0 12:29:47 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I don't know of any similar books for Cashbox, the only remotely reliable
competing
>charts.

I have a Cashbox source called "Black Contemporary Singles Charts: 1960-1984"
which is a good alternate to Mr. Whitburn. Published by The Scarecrow Press
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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:26:37 -0500


At 11:12 AM -0500 2/21/00, cheryl wrote:

>Okay, at the risk of sounding like I'm completely out of it - who the
>**** is Bob Crane? (or is this a Hogan's Heroes joke, which would have
>gone right over my head because I never watched it...)

He was the star of Hogans Heroes. He was an early pioneer in the use
portable video recorders (before vhs or beta). He liked to videotape
himself while en flagrante delicto, if you know what I mean. He liked it a
little rough, a little kinky, and his corpse was tied up in phone chords,
and........well, it's a great story.

Plus, he was schtupping Helga (sorry to report that, Tiki Bob), his hot
co-star on HH, and who later appeared with him in dinner theatres after his
TV career fizzled out.

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Date: 21 Feb 2000 16:31:13 EST



In a message dated 2/21/0 4:28:20 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Plus, he was schtupping Helga (sorry to report that, Tiki Bob), his hot
>co-star on HH, and who later appeared with him in dinner theatres after his
>TV career fizzled out.

There was an interesting report on The schtupping career of Bob Crane on
E-The True Hollywood Story about a month ago...fabulous stuff


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From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 21 Feb 2000 22:02:55 -0000


Schtupping, Shriners, Hogans Heroes----this list may finally have lost all
of it's international flavour.

And no one has answered what shriners are, are they those "ancient order of
the sacred moose types", that wear blue crimpelene suits, and moose horns,
or look like muhammed out of A.P.I.M.O.M.,  in scotland we have freemasons
and it just looks like a drinking club to me (which is not necessarily a bad
thing).

Is Hogans Heroes a programme about a famous golfers idols.

I Invented whisky

PS
Picked up a rather good copy of the "Stiletto" Soundtrack at the weekend,
Plus an Alan Aynsworth LP of him doing a fantastic cover of  "The
Entertainer".

Cheers

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From: "B.J. Major" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 21 Feb 2000 14:16:53 -0800


>At 11:12 AM -0500 2/21/00, cheryl wrote:
>
>>Okay, at the risk of sounding like I'm completely out of it - who the
>>**** is Bob Crane? (or is this a Hogan's Heroes joke, which would have
>>gone right over my head because I never watched it...)
>
>He was the star of Hogans Heroes. He was an early pioneer in the use
>portable video recorders (before vhs or beta). He liked to videotape
>himself while en ....

It's too bad that Bob will best be remembered for how tragic his life
ended.  I'd rather remember him from "Hogan's Heroes".  I recall that he
was in other classic tv shows and frequent guest star appearances in
television as well.  He seemed like a real pleasant person.  And no one
has yet mentioned that he was also a musician--in addition to being an
actor, too (he played the drums).

Regards,
--bj
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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Review Arthur Lyman Live Performance
Date: 21 Feb 2000 15:19:59 -0800


This has too long to get up and going.... but nonetheless... Nice photos
of Lyman in action, circa october 1999.

The Exotica Archive website will have more reviews coming soon...

http://www.kevdo.com/exotica/lyman-review.html

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) spector on tv
Date: 21 Feb 2000 19:30:10 -0500


One more TV item: a documentary on Phil Spector, Saturday night at 10:00pm
and 1:00am (eastern) on The Learning Channel.

Preceded at 9:00 (and midnight) by a program on album cover artists, Gary
Burden and Henry Diltz. They don't ring a bell for me.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #632
Date: 21 Feb 2000 18:05:39 EST


<< 1. I just picked up "Age of Electronicus" at an Ann Arbor antique shop for
a
 buck.
 I thought I remembered someone here mentioning it was going for 70 bucks on
 Ebay, but when I rushed home and checked, the highest it had gone for was 35.
 But thats kind of a moot train of thought anyway, as my boyfriend has forbade
 me to sell it (and he doesnt even collect records). Am I remembering wrong?
 Is my fez on backwards?>>

It WAS at $70.  Looks like the guy wised up and retracted his bid.

<<Anyone heard of "Exotica 1970"?>>

By the Kokee Band.  Sure, pretty cool exotic percussion record on Solid State.


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Subject: (exotica) Re: prepubescent percussion
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:52:52 -0500


At 10:31 AM 2/21/00 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>1. I just picked up "Age of Electronicus" at an Ann Arbor antique shop for a
>buck.

As long as you didn't find it in Toronto for that price, I'm not jealous.

>
>2. Exactly how many "Persuasive Percussion" albums are there? or "Provocative
>Percussion" or "Premature Percussion" or "Precambrian Percussion"....

There are four volumes of each of the first two you ask about.
>
>
>5. Anyone heard of "Exotica 1970"?

There's a record by that name by the Kokee band, on Solid State.
I like em though I like their other record "Hawaii and other exotic themes"
better.

>6. Hogans Heroes. Keep rockin' it!

Anybody have any records by Robert Clary, the french member of the heroes?
"LeBeau"? And I don't mean Hogans Heroes records that he appears on.  I
mean records of his own since he was a singer in his own right.  I saw him
on TV singing in that half singing/half talking Jacques Brel style that was
the law for French singers of the period.  But within the limits of that
style, he was pretty damn good.  He must have made records.  He could have
done a bang-up job on "If you go away".

I also wonder if a Hogan's Heroes completist would have to collect records
with orchestras conducted by Otto Klemperer.

And if anyone has the official Hogans Heroes records, I'm curious.  Is
there any music on it?  Is there, for instance, one of those "It's a gas"
style tunes with Schultz repeatedly saying "I know nothing"?

Raus!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Shriners
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:53:02 -0500


At 02:03 PM 2/21/00 -0500, Will Straw wrote:
>
>Well, the deepest secret in my family is that, c. 1963,
>when we lived in Jarvis, Ontario (population 780) my
>father was a keen member of the Lions Club and a star attraction
>in the annual minstrel show through which they raised money.
> My father did an imitation
>of Louis Armstrong, singing, playing his trumpet and mopping his
>brow, all of this while adorned with "negro."  And he was a liberal.

I already regret this before I even send it but I know that, at the very
least, Will and Brian and Cheryl will get a kick out of this so here goes...

I used to have a running "joke" with one of my best friends, a person of
Ukrainian extraction - who those three listmembers all know - about the
history of Anti Semitism among his people.
Which he was always denying.  But he's in the habit of denying just about
everything.
We have this thing here every year called "Caravan" (I think) where
representatives of every imaginable country create a pavilion featuring
their national costumes, traditions, food, dance etc.  Then you buy a
"passport" and you can go from pavilion to pavilion, sampling the foods and
folk dances of the world.
So one day this friend and I were passing the Ukrainian pavilion, set up in
this Ukrainian community centre and suddenly he remembered a story.
It seems every year at Xmas when he was growing up in the sixties, they'd
have this "passion play" and one of the players was called something like
"the Dreeja".
He was the fool, the villain, the simpleton (the shriner?).  Nobody called
him anything but "The Dreeja" but everyone knew that it meant "the dirty Jew".
In the more recent politically correct times, I believe they maintained the
name "The Dreeja" but supposedly children were told that it translated into
"the dirty guy" or something to that effect.

That's kind of exotica-related isn't it?  At least the part about Caravan.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: prepubescent percussion
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:53:08 -0500


At 10:31 AM 2/21/00 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:

>1. I just picked up "Age of Electronicus" at an Ann Arbor antique shop for a
>buck.

As long as you didn't find it in Toronto for that price, I'm not jealous.

>
>2. Exactly how many "Persuasive Percussion" albums are there? or "Provocative
>Percussion" or "Premature Percussion" or "Precambrian Percussion"....

There are four volumes of each of the first two you ask about.
>
>
>5. Anyone heard of "Exotica 1970"?

There's a record by that name by the Kokee band, on Solid State.
I like em though I like their other record "Hawaii and other exotic themes"
better.

>6. Hogans Heroes. Keep rockin' it!

Anybody have any records by Robert Clary, the french member of the heroes?
"LeBeau"? And I don't mean Hogans Heroes records that he appears on.  I
mean records of his own since he was a singer in his own right.  I saw him
on TV singing in that half singing/half talking Jacques Brel style that was
the law for French singers of the period.  But within the limits of that
style, he was pretty damn good.  He must have made records.  He could have
done a bang-up job on "If you go away".

I also wonder if a Hogan's Heroes completist would have to collect records
with orchestras conducted by Otto Klemperer.

And if anyone has the official Hogans Heroes records, I'm curious.  Is
there any music on it?  Is there, for instance, one of those "It's a gas"
style tunes with Schultz repeatedly saying "I know nothing"?

Raus!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Shriners
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:53:05 -0500


At 02:03 PM 2/21/00 -0500, Will Straw wrote:
>
>Well, the deepest secret in my family is that, c. 1963,
>when we lived in Jarvis, Ontario (population 780) my
>father was a keen member of the Lions Club and a star attraction
>in the annual minstrel show through which they raised money.
> My father did an imitation
>of Louis Armstrong, singing, playing his trumpet and mopping his
>brow, all of this while adorned with "negro."  And he was a liberal.

I already regret this before I even send it but I know that, at the very
least, Will and Brian and Cheryl will get a kick out of this so here goes...

I used to have a running "joke" with one of my best friends, a person of
Ukrainian extraction - who those three listmembers all know - about the
history of Anti Semitism among his people.
Which he was always denying.  But he's in the habit of denying just about
everything.
We have this thing here every year called "Caravan" (I think) where
representatives of every imaginable country create a pavilion featuring
their national costumes, traditions, food, dance etc.  Then you buy a
"passport" and you can go from pavilion to pavilion, sampling the foods and
folk dances of the world.
So one day this friend and I were passing the Ukrainian pavilion, set up in
this Ukrainian community centre and suddenly he remembered a story.
It seems every year at Xmas when he was growing up in the sixties, they'd
have this "passion play" and one of the players was called something like
"the Dreeja".
He was the fool, the villain, the simpleton (the shriner?).  Nobody called
him anything but "The Dreeja" but everyone knew that it meant "the dirty Jew".
In the more recent politically correct times, I believe they maintained the
name "The Dreeja" but supposedly children were told that it translated into
"the dirty guy" or something to that effect.

That's kind of exotica-related isn't it?  At least the part about Caravan.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: prepubescent percussion
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:56:21 -0500 (EST)




> Anybody have any records by Robert Clary, the french member of the heroes?
> "LeBeau"? And I don't mean Hogans Heroes records that he appears on.  I
> mean records of his own since he was a singer in his own right.  I saw him
> on TV singing in that half singing/half talking Jacques Brel style that was
> the law for French singers of the period.  But within the limits of that
> style, he was pretty damn good.  He must have made records.  He could have
> done a bang-up job on "If you go away".
>

I don't have any Robert Clary records myself but the current issue of
"Show Music" has an ad in which Robert Clary himself is offering us lucky
music fans to buy any of three different CDs featuring his vocals,
accompanied by the John Rodby Trio. Your choices are "Robert Clary Sings
Rodgers and Hart and Johnny Mercer," "... Sings Berlin and Harburg," and
"... Sings Gershwin and Kern." They cost $13 a shot and he'll autograph
them if you want. Address is Robert Clary/SM
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Review Arthur Lyman Live Performance
Date: 21 Feb 2000 20:20:09 PST



>This has too long to get up and going.... but nonetheless... Nice photos
>of Lyman in action, circa october 1999.


Very nice Kevin, did he play by himself, or did he have invisible musical
accompanyment playing along with him? Just curious because if he needs a
backing band, im on the next flight to Hawaii with a couple of pals. And
man, does he looks great? has he been hittin' the weights or what?. Zowie!!
Thanks for the nice photos and the words Kevin.

TABOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:28:04 +1100


on 22/2/00 8:26 AM, Br. Cleve at [e-mail] wrote:

>
> At 11:12 AM -0500 2/21/00, cheryl wrote:
>
>> Okay, at the risk of sounding like I'm completely out of it - who the
>> **** is Bob Crane? (or is this a Hogan's Heroes joke, which would have
>> gone right over my head because I never watched it...)
>
> He was the star of Hogans Heroes. He was an early pioneer in the use
> portable video recorders (before vhs or beta). He liked to videotape
> himself while en flagrante delicto, if you know what I mean. He liked it a
> little rough, a little kinky, and his corpse was tied up in phone chords,
> and........well, it's a great story.
>
This prompts me to ask - is it true that the violent porno movie "Ilsa - She
Wolf of the SS" was filmed on the Hogan's Heroes set? I seem to remember
this being the rumour some years ago when there were some video dubs of this
movie going around.

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Date: 22 Feb 2000 04:58:55 -0500


> This prompts me to ask - is it true that the violent porno movie "Ilsa - She
> Wolf of the SS" was filmed on the Hogan's Heroes set?

Yep, it's true.  The following is excerpted from the site
http://www.awcm.com/bbb/nr981013.htm

" If the background sets of this smarmy opus look familiar, it's because the
infamous Nazi Medical Camp 9 is actually the far more placid Stalag 13 from TV's
Hogan's Heroes. The set was being knocked down, so producer David Friedman (here
using the name Herman Traeger) had the perfect place to shoot the low-budget
film "

and while we're on the topic of nazis, Micheal Bolton is back in the news,
trying to wrestle the royalties away from the Isley Brothers.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/style/A14951-2000Feb21.html

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Subject: (exotica) Persuasive/Provocative/Pernicious Percussion Platters
Date: 22 Feb 2000 06:13:09


[e-mail] wrote:

>2. Exactly how many "Persuasive Percussion" albums are there? or "Provocative
>Percussion" or "Premature Percussion" or "Precambrian Percussion"....

There were 5 Persuasives and 4 Provocatives on Command:

RS 800 SD  Persuasive
RS 806 SD  Provocative
RS 808 SD  Persuasive Vol 1
RS 810 SD  Provocative Vol 1
RS 817 SD  Persuasive Vol 3
RS 821 SD  Provocative Vo1 3
RS 830 SD  Persuasive Vol 4
RS 834 SD  Provocative Vol 4
RS 895 SD  Persuasive 1966

There was also a "Passionate Percussion" on Directional Sound, two volumes
of "Perspectives in Percussion" on Somerset, arranged by Skip Martin, and a
"Predominant Percussion" on Crown.  I'm pretty positive this prostrates the
poll of perdurable percussion platters.

Brad


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New on the Space Age Pop Music page
Date: 22 Feb 2000 06:41:56


New additions as of today:

    -- R.I.P. Don Ralke, 19191-2000
    -- New biographies of Jimmie Haskell and banjo wizards Carmen Mastren and
Eddie Peabody
    -- New Listener's Guide page on Jungle Exotica albums

Find them at:

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/whatsnew.htm

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Air
Date: 22 Feb 2000 04:53:58 -0800 (PST)


All these old 12ers Charles is talking about have been
re-released as Premier Symptomes.

I don't know about remixes or alternate mixes which
may be on the 12s, but the originals are fantastic,
and if you like Air, you should pick this disc up.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Ilsa.....She Wolf
Date: 22 Feb 2000 08:58:41 -0500


Yes, "She Wolf of the SS" was shot on the Hogan's Heroes set.

No, it's not really a "porno" just a "roughie."

I wanted to pose with Diane Thorne, and even brought along my leather =
whip, but she was charging $10 for a Polaroid!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Persuasive/Provocative/Pernicious Percussion
Date: 22 Feb 2000 06:30:18 -0800


At 06:13 AM 22-02-00, Brad wrote:
>There were 5 Persuasives and 4 Provocatives on Command:
>RS 800 SD  Persuasive
>RS 806 SD  Provocative
>RS 808 SD  Persuasive Vol 1
>RS 810 SD  Provocative Vol 1
>RS 817 SD  Persuasive Vol 3
>RS 821 SD  Provocative Vo1 3
>RS 830 SD  Persuasive Vol 4
>RS 834 SD  Provocative Vol 4
>RS 895 SD  Persuasive 1966
>There was also a "Passionate Percussion" on Directional Sound, two volumes
>of "Perspectives in Percussion" on Somerset, arranged by Skip Martin, and a
>"Predominant Percussion" on Crown.

Not to mention

"Potent Percussion"  Don Catelli Directional Sound DS-5010
"Polynesian Percussion"  Chango and the Polynesians  Directional Sound DS-????
"Persistant Percussion"  Maxwell Davis  Kent KST-500   (same as Crown?)

and, if you would allow:

"Pertinent Percussion Cha Chas"  Enoch Light  Command RS 814 SD
(the spine label does not include the PP in the title for some reason)

Byron


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Persuasive/Provocative/Pernicious
Date: 22 Feb 2000 09:46:06 -0500


And....Polynesian Percussion......





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Subject: (exotica) [obits]*Bob Hite Sr,Martin Weissman, Miles White, Friedensreich Hundertwasser,Donald 'Tee' Carson ,Olgita DeCastro Marino,Gene Stewart
Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:00:45 -0500


 *Bob Hite Sr.
    WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Bob Hite Sr., whose rich baritone
voice brought children scrambling to the radio at the start of
``The Lone Ranger'' with a booming: ``From out of the past came the
thundering hoof beats of the great horse Silver!'' died Friday. He
was 86.
    Hite, an Indiana native, was a young man in the 1930s when he
went to work at Detroit radio station WXYZ. There, he announced
``The Lone Ranger'' and other radio shows, including the Green
Hornet.
    During World War II, Hite worked for CBS in New York City, where
he met Walter Cronkite and kept radio listeners informed about the
war with reports from journalists on the front lines. He also
announced the war's end.
    ``He was a wonderful, generous man,'' Cronkite told The Tampa
Tribune. ``I considered him one of my very closest friends.''
    When a young Frank Sinatra appeared with the Tommy Dorsey band
for the first time, Hite introduced him.
    Hite retired from CBS in 1979 and moved to Florida.
    Survivors include his wife, his son and three daughters.
 *Martin Weissman
    PENSACOLA, Fla. (AP) -- Martin Weissman, better known as ``Trader
Jon,'' was never in the Navy, but he was renowned among naval
aviators for serving up cheer, loyalty and friendship at his
ramshackle saloon.
    The proprietor of Trader Jon's for nearly half a century died
Friday at the age of 84. He never fully recovered from a 1997
stroke that left him partly paralyzed and with impaired speech.
    Trader Jon's was a fixture for aviators from Pensacola Naval Air
Station, the Navy's training headquarters.
    The impish Weissman treated everyone with equal affection, from
raw recruits to war heroes, astronauts and celebrities, retired
Vice Adm. Jack Fetterman said Saturday.
    ``He was a loving, caring guy who never said anything bad about
anybody,'' Fetterman recalled. ``You talk about bonding, and you
talk about brotherhood, and you talk about what naval aviation was
all about. Trader kind of provided that foundation.''
    Weissman was an honorary flight leader of the Blue Angels
precision flying team, based at Pensacola, and they would sometimes
give him rides in their jets.
    The New York City native opened Trader Jon's in 1953 in an old
brick building, once a ship chandlery, on Pensacola's waterfront
after serving in the Army and tending bar in Miami and Key West.

                            *Miles White
    NEW YORK (AP) -- Miles White, a costume designer for Rodgers and
Hammerstein's first two Broadway hits, ``Oklahoma!'' and
``Carousel,'' died on Thursday. He was 85.
    In a career that touched seven decades, White also worked on
dozens of other musicals, movies, ballets, ice shows and circuses.
    He moved freely among periods, places and modes of dress,
outfitting cowboys, showgirls, circus performers and rock stars.
    In 1943, he used an old mail-order catalog to create a realistic
look for ``Oklahoma!'' patterning the show's outfits after those
the state's citizens might have once selected themselves.
    That year, White also worked on ``Ziegfeld Follies,'' which
featured Milton Berle. Two years later, he worked with Rodgers and
Hammerstein again, creating the New England costumes for
``Carousel.''
    White received an Academy Award nomination for his work on the
Cecil B. de Mille film ``The Greatest Show on Earth.''
                    *Friedensreich Hundertwasser
    VIENNA, Austria (AP) -- Friedensreich Hundertwasser, an Austrian
painter and architect who gained fame for his wavy forms and bright
colors, died Saturday of a heart attack. He was 71.
    Hundertwasser was best known internationally for his unique
architectural designs that relied on curves, primary colors and
ornamental baubles. He called the straight line ``the tool of the
devil'' and avoided its use, even in designing apartment complexes.
    Hundertwasser was born in Vienna in 1928 as Friedrich Stowasser.
He adopted the name Hundertwasser when he was 21, and took the
spiral as his trademark.
    During his career, he advocated environmentalism and was known
for adding rooftop gardens to his architectural designs.
    He was awarded the Austrian State Prize, the country's highest
cultural award, in 1981 and used the publicity to campaign against
nuclear power.
Hamburg (AP) - Bernhard Markwitz, the inventor of waterwings, died Feb
10, two days after undergoing a heart operation in a Hamburg hospital.
He was 79. According to his daughter, his death was "a total surprise".

Markwitz came up with his invention after his then-3-year-old daughter
fell face down in a fish pond and nearly drowned.  In the 1960s he
developed them to their final form, and founded his company, BEMA. At
one time, the company itself nearly went under, and was saved by
Markwitz winning the lottery.
Friday, February 18, 2000

* Donald 'Tee' Carson; Jazz Pianist Replaced Basie

     Donald Tecumseh "Tee" Carson, 70, a jazz pianist who replaced Count
Basie on piano in Basie's legendary big band after his death in 1984. A
native of Washington, D.C., Carson performed with some of the most
renowned bands and singers of the last century. Besides fronting his own
trio for decades, Carson accompanied such notable vocalists as Ella
Fitzgerald, Joe Williams, Sarah Vaughan, Nancy Wilson, Pearl Bailey and
Tony Bennett from the 1950s to the 1970s. Basie, who often played
laconic counterpoint to his band's sharp and spirited brass section, saw
Carson as a suitable disciple and handpicked him as a fill-in pianist as
his health declined in the late 1970s. In 1987, Carson's last year with
the Basie outfit, Nat Hentoff wrote in the Wall Street Journal that
Carson "comes very close to approximating the catalytic Basie touch."
While working as a jazz pianist at night, Carson held a day job with the
Justice Department as a U.S. marshal. Carson moved to San Francisco
after his retirement from the Justice Department and hosted radio jazz
programs there. On Feb. 13 of lung cancer at his home in Cedar Park,
Texas.
L.A. Times -- Saturday, February 19, 2000

Olgita DeCastro Marino; Sang With DeCastro Trio

     Olgita DeCastro Marino, 64, who recorded and performed with the 1950s
vocal trio the DeCastro Sisters. Marino was a cousin of the original
DeCastro sisters, Peggy, Cherie and Babette, who were raised in Cuba. The
trio gained popularity in the 1950s with a slick and flamboyant nightclub
act and recordings that featured ballads and novelty numbers. Its first
smash hit was "Teach Me Tonight," written by Sammy Cahn and Gene De Paul, in
1954. Other successes in the '50s included "Boom Boom Boomerang," "Too Late
Now," "Snowbound for Christmas," "Give Me Time" and "Cowboys Don't Cry."
Marino joined the act in the 1960s as an occasional substitute, but later
permanently replaced Babette DeCastro when the latter married and retired.
Marino joined Peggy and Cherie DeCastro on the comeback trail in the late
1980s in Las Vegas. The trio recently performed at the Hollywood Roosevelt's
Cinegrill and toured last year with Buddy Greco and Gloria DeHaven. The
DeCastro Sisters were mentioned this month on HBO's hit series "The
Sopranos" as the favorite singers of the Soprano matriarch, Livia, played by
Nancy Marchand. On Monday after an asthma attack at her Las Vegas home.


Gene Stewart, brother of "Tennessee Waltz" co-writer Redd Stewart and
a country guitarist from the 1940s to the 1970s, died Saturday (2/19)
from cancer in Louisville, KY.  He was 71.

Gene played for Curly Fox and Pee Wee King's "Golden West Cowboys",
and was the guitarist on Louisville's "Hayloft Hoedown" show in the
50s and 60s.
-------
Friday, February 18 2000 02:04 12 Adar I 5760
Ofra Haza on respirator, dialysis
By Judy Siegel-Itzkovich

(February 16) - The family of Ofra Haza, the singing star who is being
treated at Sheba Hospital, decided yesterday to provide medical information
about her condition after many wild rumors spread.

Deputy hospital director Dr. Zev Rothstein said Haza, 41, was hospitalized
in "serious condition" in the intensive care unit. "She is sedated in order
to undergo medical treatment, attached to a respirator, and her treatment
includes drugs given intravenously and dialysis. If there is significant
change in her condition, the hospital and family will issue a new
announcement to the press."

Haza is understood to have developed pneumonia as a complication of
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Subject: (exotica) Re: prepubescent percussion
Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:07:47 -0500



>5. Anyone heard of "Exotica 1970"?
There's a record by that name by the Kokee band, on Solid State.
I like em though I like their other record "Hawaii and other exotic themes"
better.

Nice to know they made another one.  I have "Exotica 1970" but it's not a
knockout.
This was produced by Sonny Lester. The guy who did the record "How to Strip
for your Husband".

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Take it off....
Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:31:59 -0500


<<"How to Strip
for your Husband".>>

Speaking of that album, anyone have "How to Belly Dance for Your Husband?" =
 Didn't feel like paying the whopping dollar each for vinyl on that =
particular day.=20

Also had one called "Now Sound of Hawaii" or something like that.

Comments on either?

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Subject: (exotica) Snake Handling Music
Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:29:10 -0500



I contacted my friend who is knowledgeable (g0d what an ugly word) in these
christian matters for some info.
 Meanwhile I've got 'snake charmer music' from India from one of those old
labels like Monitor or Everest (you know, the cool cover and absolutely no
liner notes), on tape. Loud reed and percussion, and it roques. Let me know
if interested.

(There is also a video on snake handlers, from Shanachie I think, seen it at
the library. More interest in the subject lately as a handler recently died
from being bitten...)

pg

>>>Okay, here's another "surprise genre" that I couldn't believe actually
exists.

Evidently, those wacky serpent worshipers from the deep south have a very
unique blend of "Christian rock-a-billy" with synth organ, tamborine and the
like that are part of the church service.

And this stuff is now available.....anybody know what the hell I'm talking
about - or was it another one of my weird dreams??? :-0

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: prepubescent percussion
Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:39:21 -0500


At 10:07 AM 2/22/00 -0500, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Nice to know they made another one.  I have "Exotica 1970" but it's not a
>knockout.
>This was produced by Sonny Lester. The guy who did the record "How to Strip
>for your Husband".

Sonny did a lot more than that.  He produced tons of stuff on Solid State.
And   his "After Hours" series is pretty good. But the "AH" installment
called "Middle East", is in my opinion one of the great "surfin exotica"
records ever made.
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Subject: (exotica) Otto Klemperer
Date: 22 Feb 2000 10:45:34 EST


In a message dated 2/21/00 8:50:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I also wonder if a Hogan's Heroes completist would have to collect records
 with orchestras conducted by Otto Klemperer. >>

there was some guy on the list about 3 or 4 years ago who met Klemperer in
NYC on a street corner (or out side of Klemperer's building).

does anybody remember this?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Snake handling music
Date: 22 Feb 2000 15:49:16 +0000


Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Okay, here's another "surprise genre" that I couldn't believe actually exists.
>
> Evidently, those wacky serpent worshipers from the deep south have a very unique blend of "Christian rock-a-billy" with synth organ, tamborine and the like that are part of the church service.

Isn't there a snake/church band scene in the film Vanishing Point? Is
this the 'serpent worshipping' you mean?

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From: Bissia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Air
Date: 22 Feb 2000 16:54:29 +0100


Can someone send me a jpeg or an url displaying the very first Air
12'inch ?
I'm not sure i have that one (but it could be)
I have Casanova 70 (blue swiming pool sleeve if i remember well)
but i never seen one with an autobhan on it =B0-)

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Date: 22 Feb 2000 11:18:51 EST



In a message dated 2/22/0 5:02:57 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

> Micheal Bolton is back in the news,
>trying to wrestle the royalties away from the Isley Brothers.

My wife grew up in New Haven CT with that sack of shit and she says he was a
pompous egotist from the git-go and she isn't the type to be
judgemental...His real name is Bloton.


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Date: 22 Feb 2000 11:22:00 EST



In a message dated 2/22/0 7:09:35 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

> I'm pretty positive this prostrates the
>poll of perdurable percussion platters.

Will pandemonium persist if we parse this potpourri while placating pondering
pedantics yet pander to previous percussive com-Pleatists?


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Date: 22 Feb 2000 11:24:14 EST



In a message dated 2/22/0 10:17:47 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>This was produced by Sonny Lester.

You can read all about how little is actually known about Sonny Lester in
Eddie Gorodetsky's  liner notes in Rhino's "Strip Classics"


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Air
Date: 22 Feb 2000 16:22:17 +0000


Its a golden brown colour,  and it has AIR in stylized 3D letters in th=
e
centre. The brown background is a sun drenched road/motorway. JPEG? Dre=
am
on.

>>Can someone send me a jpeg or an url displaying the very first Air
12'inch ?
I'm not sure i have that one (but it could be)
I have Casanova 70 (blue swiming pool sleeve if i remember well)
but i never seen one with an autobhan on it =B0-)


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Snake Handling Music
Date: 22 Feb 2000 11:46:57 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:
> (There is also a video on snake handlers, from Shanachie I think, seen it at
the library. More interest in the subject lately as a handler recently died
from being bitten...)
pg
======
That would be:
Beats of the Heart - Chase the Devil: Religious Music of the Appalachians
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6301686802/qid=951237367/sr=1-1/102-4567288-4449635

"Beats of the Heart"  is a fab series of world music docs.
There's also a great OOP book, which expands on the docs, by the
director of the series:
Beats of the Heart : Popular Music of the World by Jeremy Marre

http://pfo.org/succumbs.htm

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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Take it off....
Date: 22 Feb 2000 12:11:54 -0500


At 10:31 AM 2/22/00 -0500, Nathan Miner wrote:
>
><<"How to Strip
>for your Husband".>>
>
>Speaking of that album, anyone have "How to Belly Dance for Your Husband?"
 Didn't feel like paying the whopping dollar each for vinyl on that
particular day.

Is this a Sonny Lester record?  Sonny had an interesting take on "middle
eastern" music, as evidenced on the "After Hours: Middle East" record that
I already referred to once today.  In the same vein, I have another good
record by him with the same sound and even some of the same tunes called
"The Belly Dancer".  That day Sonny and the boys called themselves "Abdul
Alexi Freeman and his Enquirers" (or something like that).
So if it's Sonny and it's belly dancing, I'd go for it.
Then again, the strip record is pretty mediocre and doesn't have that
middle eastern sound at all.
But for a buck...

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Subject: (exotica) Fidelity inTime
Date: 22 Feb 2000 11:57:53 -0500


Does anybody know?

After getting reel-to-reel copy of Persuasive Percussion I thought of
something.   What were the political and or technical issues behind =
rock
bands in the late 60s and early 70s that made the record companies =
release
the recordings with such low-fidelity?

My vintage 1959 recordings by Enoch Light have more dynamic range and a
wider spectrum of sound than very many of the records and CD reissues I =
have
of some rock music from the late 60s and early 70s, like Spirit--"I got =
a
line on you" and Jimi Hendrix--"Manic Depression" and most Iron =
Butterfly
records and the list goes on and on.=20

I know that the good equipment was around, alebit a bit pricey.  Some =
bands,
like the Doors, had access to good stuff. =20

Certainly by the end of the 60s, the rock influence had become =
significant
enough in the industry to afford the high quality recording and =
duplicating
equipment afforded to the "biggies" 10 years previous.  Why is it that =
SO
many of our "classic" rock records have poorer sound than some =
mid-fifties
jazz/lounge/exotica? =20

Anybody byte?

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Persuasive/Provocative/Pernicious Percussion Platters
Date: 22 Feb 2000 09:16:01 -0800 (PST)


not sure if this is within the strict parameters, but
a fun percussion lp is The Rene Paulo Group's Tropical
Heat on Life records. Great stereo sound, bongos, bass
and piano (and great cover too: nude woman obscured
through the net-mesh of the hammock in which she is
sprawled, languorous and glowing...). This lp kicks
the crap out of Black Coral, which I assume is a later
effort, on the Liberty label (nice cover art there as
well). I have included a sample on the tape I have
sent some.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Take it off....
Date: 22 Feb 2000 12:07:03 -0500



>Speaking of that album, anyone have "How to Belly Dance for Your Husband?"

I like the Belly Dance one a lot more. More ethnic/exotica.The other one
is, well, as the name suggests, too burlesque.

BTW, Sonny Lester's name came out on a CD called "How to Strip for your
Lover" unless you like smooth jazz stay away from it. Sonny, or whoever he
is, came out of retirement in Florida to make this.

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Subject: (exotica) Senor Coconut
Date: 22 Feb 2000 21:31:50 +0100


Anyone heard this?


-------------

SENOR COCONUT German Dance (Kraftwerk Covers) CD (AMCT japan).
Japanese only release by Senor Coconut (aka Atom Heart), whose previous
album was on Rather Interesting; file under simulation. Tracks include
"Neonlights (chachacha)", "Trans Europe Express (cumbia)", "Tour De
France (merengue)", "Man Machine (baklan a la prado)", "Radioactivity
(rhumba)", "Autobahn (drum 'n' cumbia)", "Numbers (mambo)", "Sex Object
(salsa)", "The Robots (salsa)", "Pocket Calculator (merengue)", "Showroom
Dummies (chachacha)", "Music Non Stop (cumbia)". "When Kraftwerk came
out of cryogenic storage in the late90s to play a few shows, I wasn't one of
the privileged who actually got to see them, but I did read a number of
reviews of these concerts, and I swear that in at least three of them the
reviewer said that people in the crowd were crying when the group hit the
stage, tears of joy, and oddly enough that doesn't surprise me at all. If
that
doesn't surprise you either, then this CD might be for you. While it looks
like
we might have to wait another decade for an actual brand new Kraftwerk
album, Atom Heart (Rather Interesting records, aka Lisa Carbon aka
Lassigue Bendthaus aka LB) tops last years Pop Artificelle record by a
long shot, an entire record of Kraftwerk tunes seamlessly reconfigured as
cha chas, meringues, rumbas, etc. Their songs actually lend themselves
quite well to this treatment, and unlike records by dozens of artists out
there these days who crank out shamelessly inferior Ralf and Florian-styled
product, you'll probably find yourself playing this a lot more than once, at
least to see your friends jaws drop when they hear "Radioactivity" done with
trumpets and marimbas..." -- Billy Kiely."The tingle of torrid
trumpets...the
simmering of sensuous saxes...the clicks of the claves and the magic of the
maracas...and underneath it all the buoyant beatings of the drums and the
tom toms. Here is great sound and great music - A tribute to all great
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Senor Coconut
Date: 22 Feb 2000 15:39:36 -0500


Arjan Plug <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Anyone heard this?
SENOR COCONUT German Dance (Kraftwerk Covers) CD (AMCT japan).
Japanese only release by Senor Coconut (aka Atom Heart).
==========
I haven't heard it, but I did search amazon.com for it after reading
your post.
Strangely, it's listed twice under slightly different titles and with
two different prices! Go figure!!
Imports:
Baile Aleman (Kraftwerk Covers) [IMPORT]
Senor Coconut / Audio CD / Released 2000
Our Price: $34.49


Eel Baile Aleman (Kraftwerk Co [IMPORT] ~ Usually ships in 2-3 days
Senor Coconut / Audio CD
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From: Mark Kingsley <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) infinity album covers
Date: 22 Feb 2000 15:15:37 -0800 (PST)


I was in a record store this past weekend and the
clerk was showing me some albums he had just received.
 One of the ones he pulled out - I forget who it was
by - had a cover image of a woman holding an album
jacket that had the same image on it, which in turn
had the same image on it (I hope that description
makes sense).  I've seen a few of them (an example
being "Music to Recline By") but I've never really
paid them much attention.  The guy called it an
infinity cover and said that people collect comic
books that have these types of covers and I was
curious if anyone on the list collects records with
covers like these.  Were they very common?

regards,

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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the world's greatest mystery
Date: 23 Feb 2000 02:02:15 +0100



>in scotland we have freemasons and it just looks like a
>drinking club to me (which is not necessarily a bad thing).

Ah, Scottish Freemasons, I was wondering when they were going
to turn up.

A while ago I read a tiny item about the sale at auction of the
"Benison Bowl", used by Beggars' Benison of Anstruther, a secret
society founded in the 18th century in Scotland, it involved
a group of well-to-do men (possibly royalty too) drinking and
undergoing rituals including measuring their penises in the
"Benison Bowl", I would imagine that some form of wanking went
on as well ("an auto-erotic secret society"). Some woman did
research on this and when she went to look at old papers on the
subject, the curators either professed total ignorance or seemed
embarrassed that anyone else knew about it.
I am intrigued, especially as it's one of the few things I've
tried to research that I haven't been able to get any information
on through the internet, not even Lou was able to find more than
a few practically meaningless passages (except for a possibly
revealing book at a London antiquariat, that is in the proces of
being ordered by a London friend), which leads me to think that
there isn't anything to be found on the net. That's to say, if
on this improbable list we don't have an expert for those jolly
beggars as well...

Cheers, Ton


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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Persuasive/Provocative Percussion
Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:29:03 -0800


Aaah...I've long been interested in this:

> >There were 5 Persuasives and 4 Provocatives on Command:
> >RS 800 SD  Persuasive
> >RS 806 SD  Provocative
> >RS 808 SD  Persuasive Vol 1
> >RS 810 SD  Provocative Vol 1
> >RS 817 SD  Persuasive Vol 3
> >RS 821 SD  Provocative Vo1 3
> >RS 830 SD  Persuasive Vol 4
> >RS 834 SD  Provocative Vol 4
> >RS 895 SD  Persuasive 1966
> >There was also a "Passionate Percussion" on Directional Sound, two volumes
> >of "Perspectives in Percussion" on Somerset, arranged by Skip Martin, and
> a
> >"Predominant Percussion" on Crown.
>
> Not to mention
>
> "Potent Percussion"  Don Catelli Directional Sound DS-5010
> "Polynesian Percussion"  Chango and the Polynesians  Directional Sound
> DS-????
> "Persistant Percussion"  Maxwell Davis  Kent KST-500   (same as Crown?)
>
> and, if you would allow:
>
> "Pertinent Percussion Cha Chas"  Enoch Light  Command RS 814 SD

And don't forget:

Pervasive Percussion (Omega)
Pervasive Percussion (Sutton) hmmm..need to see if these are same music
Process 35 Percussion (Spin-O-Rama)
Progressive Percussion (Modern)
The Pinnacle of Percussion (Pirouette)

and winner of best "P" alliteration in my collection:

Passionate Paris in Ping Pong Percussion (Coronet)

Somebody needs to document this with cover scans on a website.

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Subject: (exotica) Valvola
Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:33:48 -0800


Curious about other peoples' reactions to the Valvola CD, "Teenagers
Film Their Own Life."

They're from Florence, play vintage synthesizers, use lots of reverb,
sound to me like "Autobahn"-era Kraftwerk meets The Doors meets Low,
with some cinematic qualities to the sound.  Funky detached ennui.

Kinda low key, but I'm liking it.

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From: Jim Gerwitz <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ilsa, Victor Mature & the East-West Shrine Game
Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:16:12 -0800


The category is potpourri, Alex, for $10.
1. Mondo Digital lists 3 Ilsa movies due on DVD in may. I'll slo-mo and
look for Schultz. Shows 10th Victim also due in May, and Candy listed
with no release date.
2. Victor Mature never takes his fez off during von Sternberg's "The
Shanghai Gesture," which takes place in Mother Gin Sling's Casino in
Shanghai, a MUCH more exotic joint than the Blue Gardenia recently
mentioned. Tagline: 'People Live in Shanghai for Many Reasons... Most of
Them Bad!"  And 3AM sat night out of the blue again came Mr. Mature in
1953's "The Veils of Baghdad" on one of those obscure digital cable
channels. He rassled Jim Arness and romanced B-movie beauty Mari
Blanchard, who did TWO great exotic dance numbers, music credited to
Henry Mancini & Herman Stein!!! Good mindless exotic fun, now if i could
only find my tape of that mummy movie Les Baxter scored.
3. Sometime in the late 70's I went to the annual East-West Shrine
football game at Stanford. The fezzes and tassels and crescent moons
were out in force on the thousands of Shriners, and it was very strange.
However, at halftime we all enjoyed the Kilgore Rangerettes, about 200
lovely Texas junior college girls in white boots and hot pants doing
precision drillwork and high kicks. Yow! Kinda like Brazilian tv star
Xuxa's majorette assistants, if you ever caught her "kids" show on the
spanish channel. aaaa ohhh aaaaa ohhhhh aaaaa ohhhh!

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Valvola
Date: 23 Feb 2000 00:24:23 -0500


I liked this CD.  (some mildly shameless self-promotion here) I actually
reviewed it in "Cool & Strange Music" #14 - I described it as
"electronica-influenced psychedelic lounge ballads".  It's very much in
line with the other new "now" sound stuff coming out of Italy.

"(One Love) Le Blues Ermetique" can also be found on Irma's "Ultradolce"
compilation.

Recommended.

cheryl

"B. Yost" wrote:
>
> Curious about other peoples' reactions to the Valvola CD, "Teenagers
> Film Their Own Life."
>
> They're from Florence, play vintage synthesizers, use lots of reverb,
> sound to me like "Autobahn"-era Kraftwerk meets The Doors meets Low,
> with some cinematic qualities to the sound.  Funky detached ennui.
>
> Kinda low key, but I'm liking it.


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Subject: (exotica) scotland connection
Date: 23 Feb 2000 11:04:00 -0500


Is this off topic??

Scotland connection: The Masons or a related group were created or surfaced
in the
court of Robert the Bruce as a nucleus of politcal opposition against the
British Crown.  As he was King of the Scots in the early 13th century
(1316-1329 I think) the bowl must have been very old and grungy by the time
the 18th century rolled around.


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Subject: (exotica) [obits]Husam el-Din Mustafa,Barney Childs,Newt Arnold
Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:31:01 -0500


                        *Husam el-Din Mustafa
    CAIRO, Egypt (AP) -- Husam el-Din Mustafa, an American-trained
film director who created about 100 films and dozens of popular
Egyptian soap operas, died Tuesday. He was 64.
    Mustafa died in his Cairo home from a stroke, according to the
Middle East News Agency.
    He began his career as an assistant to American director Cecil
B. De Mille. Mustafa graduated from the University of Southern
California in 1951 before assisting De Mille in the film ``The
Greatest Show on Earth.''
    On his return to Egypt in 1956, he directed his first film,
``Enough, My Eyes,'' a tragedy that introduced him as a serious
director and producer.
    Among his prize-winning movies are ``The Bullet Still in My
Pocket,'' about the 1973 Arab Israeli War, along with ``Enemy
Brothers'' and ``The Devils.''
    ``By himself, he was a school in the movie art who advanced
Egyptian cinema,'' said actress Nadia Lutfi, who starred his 1963
film, ``The Black Glasses.''
    Mustafa earned the wrath of many pan-Arabists when he visited
Israel several times after the 1979 Egypt-Israel peace accord. He
urged fellow artists to visit as well, a a move he said would
encourage peace between Arabs and their Jewish neighbors.
    His soap operas were mostly historical, dealing with events in
the early centuries of Islam. Hid better-known soap operas
included: ``The Knights,'' ``The Heroes,'' ``Ibn Hazm'' and ``The
Age of The Imams.''
    Mustafa had been working on a popular television series, ``The
Eagle of the East,'' about the Muslim military leader Saladin, who
drove back crusaders from the holy land in Palestine in the 12th
century.
    A funeral was held Tuesday in Cairo. Mustafa is survived by his
wife, Nadia, and a daughter, Jihan.
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Friedensreich Hundertwasser
NYTimes obit at:
http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-f-hundertwasser.html
============
February 22, 2000
Barney Childs, 73, a Composer Interested in the Experimental
By PAUL GRIFFITHS - NY Times

Barney Childs, a composer and teacher, died on Jan. 11 at his home in
Redlands, Calif. He was 73.

The cause was Parkinson's disease, said his friend and colleague, Phillip
Rehfeldt.

Born in Spokane, Wash., Mr. Childs grew up there and in Palo Alto, Calif. He
studied at the University of Nevada and at Oxford and Stanford Universities,
taking courses in English as well as music. Later he taught in both fields.
In composition, though, he was self-taught until he was in his late 20's
when he studied with Aaron Copland and Carlos Chßvez at Tanglewood and
Elliott Carter in New York. By the late 1950's his music was gaining
national recognition.

Meanwhile he had begun teaching at the University of Arizona, where he
worked from 1956 to 1965. He became the dean of Deep Springs College in
California, and composer in residence at the Wisconsin College Conservatory
before taking a post at Redlands University in California. In 1989 he was a
visiting lecturer at Goldsmiths College at the University of London.

His musical enthusiasms were broad, and they all left a mark on his
compositions, which embraced the mainstream masters of his early years, like
Hindemith, along with Ives, Cage and jazz. Cage's influence was a particular
liberation, leading Mr. Childs to engage the performer in more or less free
music making. Among Mr. Childs's many works are two symphonies, concertos
for clarinet and timpani, quintets for wind and brass, string quartets and
other chamber pieces.

He wrote numerous articles and was a co-editor, with the composer Elliott
Schwartz, of one of the central sourcebooks for music of the late 20th
century, "Contemporary Composers on Contemporary Music." Between 1964 and
1982 he also ran Advance Recordings, which provided an outlet to
experimental composers like Richard Maxfield, Harold Budd and Robert Ashley.

He is survived by two daughters, Dirje Smith of Flint, Tex., and Margaret
Childs of Las Vegas.
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Roger Vadim's last production: Five wives and a funeral

SAINT-TROPEZ, France, Feb 18 (AFP) - Roger Vadim's five wives joined a
300-strong congregation of friends, children and lovers in a cemetery
overlooking the mediterranean at the French film-director's funeral Friday.
Vadim's widow Marie-Christine Barrault was met at a church service in
Saint-Tropez by his former wives Brigitte Bardot, Jane Fonda, Catherine
Schneider and Anette Stroyberg.
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Tuesday, February 22, 2000
Newt Arnold; Award-Winning Filmmaker
By MYRNA OLIVER, L. A. Times Staff Writer

     Newt Arnold, director and winner of the Directors Guild of America
award for his work as first assistant director of the motion picture "The
Godfather Part II," has died of leukemia.

     Arnold, who would have been 73 today, died Feb. 12 at his home in
Encino, said his wife, Judy.

     The filmmaker's career spanned 45 years and ranged from acting in the
1983 film "Table for Five" among others, to writing for television's
"Bonanza" and other productions to directing motion pictures, television
movies, miniseries and commercials.

     He won another DGA award nomination for his work in "Twelve Angry Men"
for television in 1997 and critical acclaim for his directing efforts on
"Masada" and the miniseries "Peter the Great."

     A director in his own right for such films as "Bloodsport," Arnold was
perhaps even more sought after as a first assistant director, working with
such legendary Hollywood helmsmen as Francis Ford Coppola, Blake Edwards,
Sam Peckinpah, Carl Reiner and Steven Spielberg.

     Among Arnold's credits as first assistant over the past decade were the
motion pictures "A Simple Plan," "Jade," "A Walk in the Clouds," "Blue
Chips" and "The Abyss."

     In earlier years, he was an assistant director on such films as "The
Ballad of Josie," "The Way West," "The Devil's Brigade" and "The Green
Berets" directed by and starring John Wayne.

     Born in Palo Alto, Calif., Arnold earned a bachelor's degree at
Stanford and won postgraduate scholarships to the Banff School of Fine Arts
in Canada and the University of London. He earned a master's degree at UCLA,
producing a thesis that proved a toehold into the film industry.

     Arnold was active in directors, writers and screen actors guilds and
the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

     In addition to his wife, Arnold is survived by their sons, Jonathan and
Evan.




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Subject: (exotica) Pair of "Wild Parties"
Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:32:47 -0500


    NEW YORK (AP) -- New York theatergoers are going to be seeing
double with ``The Wild Party.''
    Two musicals with the same title and based on the same Jazz Age
poem are opening within weeks of each other -- one off-Broadway, the
other on.
    ``There has never been anything like this,'' says Ken
Mandelbaum, musical theater historian, author and critic. ``But is
it a good idea to do both at the same time? It is difficult to
imagine them both being successful. After all, they are about the
same thing.''
    Both are based on a 1920s poem by Joseph Moncure March, a
one-time editor at The New Yorker and screenwriter. It captures the
hedonism and cynicism of a gilded age, a hard-boiled world of show
biz, speakeasies and indiscriminate sex.
    The first ``Wild Party'' arrives Thursday at off-Broadway's
Manhattan Theater, a nonprofit theater where such plays as ``Crimes
of the Heart'' and ``Love! Valour! Compassion!'' were first done in
New York. It has book, music and lyrics by newcomer Andrew Lippa,
who contributed a few new songs to last season's revival of
``You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown.''
    The second, with a score by Michael John LaChiusa, opens April
13 at Broadway's Virginia Theater, produced by the Public Theater
and Hollywood movie mogul Scott Rudin.
    Musicals based on the same material are not unknown. Andrew
Lloyd Webber wrote ``The Phantom of the Opera,'' but Maury Yeston
has a version of ``Phantom,'' too, and it has had a successful life
-- though outside New York.
    Yeston also wrote a musical version of ``La Cage aux folles''
called ``The Queen of Basin Street.'' It never was produced, but
Jerry Herman's version was.
    And in the late 1960s, two musicals based on ``Twelfth Night''
arrived off-Broadway. One, ``Your Own Thing,'' was a hit; the
other, ``Love and Let Love'' died in two weeks.
    The Broadway production of ``The Wild Party'' has an edge in
terms of star power. Its cast includes Eartha Kitt, Mandy Patinkin
and Toni Collette, who just got a supporting-actress Oscar
nomination for the movie ``The Sixth Sense.''
    (There was also a 1975 movie called ``The Wild Party,'' starring
Raquel Welch and James Coco, that was based loosely on the scandal
that ruined the career of silent film comic Fatty Arbuckle. Neither
the poem nor the two stage productions deal with the Arbuckle
scandal.)
    Neither ``Wild Party'' will talk specifically about the other --
at least on the record.
    Public Theater artistic director George C. Wolfe, who is
director and co-author of the Broadway version, says diplomatically
about the competition, ``As a producer I am aware of it, but as a
creative artist I can only think about my show. My job as a
director is to focus completely on what happens in my rehearsal
room.''
    Lippa, composer of the other one, agrees. ``Our commitment was
just to our show and doing it on the timeline that the musical
demanded. Our show was ready to be produced and we had incredible
support from Manhattan Theater Club and we felt confident in going
forward,'' he says. ``Frankly, we didn't take into account the
other folks.''
    Both musicals began life unaware of the other. The Public
Theater has had a long relationship with composer LaChiusa, and
their project came about as a commission from the Public, Wolfe
says.
    Lippa started work on his version more than four years ago after
he came across a copy of the poem in a New York bookstore. ``In
those days, I didn't write lyrics. I was in the poetry section,
thinking I would find a poem that I could set to music,'' he
recalls. Lippa opened the book and read the first two lines,
``Queenie was a blonde, and her age stood still, and she danced
twice a day in vaudeville.'' He knew he had an idea for a musical.
    ``This show was going to be my `Cats.' I was going to set the
poem to music,'' Lippa recalls. ``But I realized quickly that there
was very little in the first person. So I started to write lyrics.
It was the middle of the winter, I was out of work and I thought,
`I can mope around the house or I can write a musical.'''
    Manhattan Theater Club held a reading of Lippa's first act in
August 1996 and the following summer a two-act version was done at
the Eugene O'Neill Center in Connecticut, where director Gabriel
Barre came aboard. He is directing the show at Manhattan Theater
Club.
    Now both shows have to wait for the reviews.
    Is a Broadway transfer possible for the Manhattan Theater Club
version if the notices on Friday are good? No one is saying.
    ``We are investigating the usual options after the Manhattan
Theater Club run -- if it is warranted,'' says Barry Grove, the
theater's executive producer. Its ``Wild Party'' is scheduled to
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Subject: (exotica) more Spinning On Air on-line
Date: 23 Feb 2000 15:07:41 -0500


Looks like WNYC has archived seven more Spinning on Air radio shows,
including 3 which haven't been broadcast yet.
Here's the URLS:

Chamber musics:
http://www.wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa012800.ram

Show & Tell:
http://www.wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa020400.ram

Singer Jeri Southern had a unique voice which communicated a
compelling blend of passion and restraint. Tonight on Spinning On Air you can hear an hour of her recordings of great love songs, plus
excerpts from her last radio interview, originally broadcast on
Spinning On Air ten years ago. I'm David Garland join me to discover
or rediscover one of the great American voices: Jeri Southern.
http://www.wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa021100.ram

Gordon Jenkins (inc. entire Manhattan Tower v1.0)
http://www.wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa021800.ram

These files exist, but I'm not sure if there's anything in them:
http://www.wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa022500.ram
http://www.wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa030300.ram
http://www.wnyc.org/musicculture/spinning/ram/soa031000.ram

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Subject: (exotica) Attn: AstroSlut!
Date: 23 Feb 2000 15:23:38 -0500


http://www.megastar.co.uk/site/today/news/latest/20000223n_astronauty.html

Astronauty but nice
by IAN SPARKS

ASTRONAUTS had sex on the American space shuttle - with the full
blessing of NASA bosses.

The zero-gravity nookie sessions were all in the cause of finding
which positions work best in a weightless environment.

But the men and women volunteers created their own atmosphere as they went
through TEN different lovemaking tests, says astronomer Pierre Kohler.

Six positions used an inflatable tunnel with WALL straps.

They were designed to hold the lovers together - though
the other four positions allowed the couple to FLOAT
freely about the capsule.

Kohler, French author of many books on space, claims
he has seen secret files on the 1996 sexperi-ments. He says NASA document number 12-571-3570
reveals that mixed teams of astronauts were sent on four
missions to boldly go where no-one had gone before.

Well, at least not Yanks - though Russian Svetlana
Savitskaia was rumoured to have had sex with one or
more of the four men she spent a month with on the
now-defunct Salyut-7 space station in 1982.

And in 1991, Britain's first female astronaut Helen
Sharman, then 28, said she'd had "fantastic
experiences" on the Mir station with four cosmonauts.

This is not to suggest any impropriety - though one
Russian said the crew had "great fun" with Helen, who
was videoed floating around in a pink nightie!

Now Kohler, who makes his claims in his new book The
Final Mission, says: "Sex in space could have been tried
out many times.

"But the NASA experiments were possibly the first to
find the most effective ways of doing it if couples had to
spend a long time in space."

Pierre Kohler's amazon.com page:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/Author=Kohler%2C%20Pierre/104-6037631-0398826




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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bloton Redux
Date: 24 Feb 2000 10:16:38 +1100



In a message dated 2/22/0 5:02:57 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

> Micheal Bolton is back in the news,
>trying to wrestle the royalties away from the Isley Brothers.

My wife grew up in New Haven CT with that sack of shit and she says he was a

pompous egotist from the git-go and she isn't the type to be
judgemental...His real name is Bloton.

Actually, truth be told, it was Boloton.  He grew up in Bridgeport, 20
minutes down the coast from New Haven...don't know if he lived up in New
Haven or not.  Anyway, from this Isley thing it's obvious  he's a
schmuck...Fairfield County is chock full of entertainment blockheads (read:
Martha Stewart, Tom Cruise, David Letterman, Harry Connick Jr, Neil
Sedaka---who I watched pull into the Int'l House o' Pancakes where I was
eating, with his family in a monstrous convertible Rolls-Royce---
etc.etc.etc.  Boy, am I glad I left that place).  When I lived in Westport,
seething home of stinking media wealth, Bolton lived in an overstuffed
gatehoused mock-mediterranean faux-villa.  Yick.

Keith

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Subject: (exotica) F & T Tour?
Date: 23 Feb 2000 23:41:28 EST


Did I dream this, or do I remember a post on this list recently that told of
a Ferrante & Teicher reunion and tour. The post said that they were once
again exploring the prepared piano sounds of their early days.

Sean


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From: Lazlo Nibble <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Treasure in the desert  VEGAS!
Date: 23 Feb 2000 21:52:11 -0700


On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 10:43:38AM -0800, Albert Fish wrote:

>    Anyone know of a place to get records in Vegas??

I know it isn't particularly thislisty, but all the new promo CDs in town seem
to end up at Big B's. :-)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) F & T Tour?
Date: 23 Feb 2000 22:17:47 -0800


At 11:41 PM 23-02-00 EST, Sean wrote:
>Did I dream this, or do I remember a post on this list recently that told of
>a Ferrante & Teicher reunion and tour. The post said that they were once
>again exploring the prepared piano sounds of their early days.

Sean, Yes, I remember that, too, but I don't remember from whom or if there
were details.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 'Isn't this great? It's great!' says Bahraini as he snaps his
Date: 24 Feb 2000 11:43:36 +0100


11:30pm (GMT, I guess) BBC Radio 4 Can Chipmunks Sing?

John Walters examines the strange effects achieved by speeding
up tape recorders - and admits that he dabbled in this mysterious
art back in the 1960s, while languishing in the brass section of
the Alan Price Set. The technique was initiated by the Chipmunks,
George Martin introduced the Beatles to it, and Mike Oldfield
tried it.

FM, LW and now in real audio too (some program rights haven't yet
been cleared, I hope that doesn't apply to this program...):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/realplayer/index_fm.html


A propos Beatles, Greil Marcus's Real Life Rock Top 10 features
a special all-Beatles edition.

http://www.salon.com/media/col/marc/2000/02/22/beatles/index.html


Are Scottish freemasons off topic? Somebody must have denied this
ages ago, but ok, ok, back to our core business, exotic influences
in popular western music, or in this case, the influence of western
pop culture on exotic countries, take Iran, for instance. An official
explains: "If the music makes you want to jump up and dance, it is
not acceptable." Ah, exotica, never mind the Benison Bowl.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2000/02/24/iran_culture/index.html

Cheers, Ton


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Subject: (exotica) [obit]Joe ``Dr. 360'' Wolfson,Ofra Haza
Date: 24 Feb 2000 10:12:16 -0500


        LOS ANGELES (AP) -- South Bay surfing legend Joe ``Dr. 360'' Wolfson,
whose cancer battle led him to attempt suicide, died in a freeway crash on
Monday. He was 50.
        Wolfson was known as the granddaddy of body boarding and dubbed ``Dr.
360'' for becoming the first to spin on a wave.
        In September 1998, Wolfson learned he had an inoperable tumor in his
esophagus and right lung. Two months later, he took sleeping pills and paddled
out to sea in a suicide attempt.
        He was rescued and changed his outlook on life, seeking chemotherapy and
alternative treatments and resuming his passion, surfing. His story became the
subject of numerous newspaper and television reports.
--------
                             *Ofra Haza
    JERUSALEM (AP) -- Ofra Haza, who melded ancient Yemenite Jewish
devotional poetry with 1980s techno music to become one of Israel's
first international pop music stars, died Wednesday. She was 41.
    Haza's signature song was the defiant 1979 hit, ``The Tart's
Song.'' Her album ``Yemenite Songs,'' released in 1985, was an
instant hit in Israel. Its signature track, ``Im Ninalu,'' (``If
the Gates of Heaven were Locked'') expanded a devotional poem by
17th century rabbi Shalom Shabazi into a modern love song.
    Haza performed in Oslo when Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin,
Foreign Minister Shimon Peres and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat
won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1994, and she sang the role of Moses'
mother in the 1998 film ``The Prince of Egypt.''
Ofra's web page:  http://www.ofrahaza.com/
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit]Joe ``Dr. 360'' Wolfson,Ofra Haza
Date: 24 Feb 2000 10:43:30 -0500



>                              *Ofra Haza
>         JERUSALEM (AP) -- Ofra Haza, who melded ancient Yemenite Jewish
>devotional poetry with 1980s techno music to become one of Israel's
>first international pop music stars, died Wednesday. She was 41.


This is a big shock and loss.  I dug her "Yemenite Songs" album and I
believe that you Exoticians that have not had the pleasure, would
definitely enjoy it as well.  It's my favorite album co-written by a
17th-century Rabbi...um, the best Israeli dancing...er...oh heck, it's a
one of a kind album!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Attn: AstroSlut!
Date: 24 Feb 2000 10:49:53 -0500



>http://www.megastar.co.uk/site/today/news/latest/20000223n_astronauty.html
>
>Astronauty but nice
>by IAN SPARKS
>
>ASTRONAUTS had sex on the American space shuttle - with the full
>blessing of NASA bosses.

Possible dialogue:
"Did you feel the earth move?"
"Hmph.  Men!"

Sorry, too easy,
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obitOfra Haza
Date: 24 Feb 2000 08:22:04 -0800 (PST)


I agree Brian

Sorry to see her passing.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


--- Brian Phillips <[e-mail]> wrote:
                          *Ofra Haza      JERUSALEM (AP) -- Ofra Haza, who melded
ancient Yemenite Jewish>devotional poetry with 1980s techno music to become one of
Israel's first international pop music stars, died Wednesday. She was 41.
>
>
> This is a big shock and loss.  I dug her "Yemenite Songs" album and I
> believe that you Exoticians that have not had the pleasure, would
> definitely enjoy it as well.  It's my favorite album co-written by a
> 17th-century Rabbi...um, the best Israeli dancing...er...oh heck, it's a
> one of a kind album!
>
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From: Dj Batman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ofra Haza
Date: 24 Feb 2000 17:59:14 +0100


I am very sad too.
I have some vinyl albums by Ofra Haza and Fifty Gates of Wisdom (Yemenite
Songs) is probably the best and was the inspiration for the dance tracks in
"Shaday" that made her famous.
She was actually launched in the western world when UK dj duo Coldcut stole
her voice for an Eric B/Rakim remix, being one of the best examples of the
cultural and promotional function of sampling.
She was recently (1998 I think) involved with electronic artist Black Dog
with whom she did a cd single of oriental flavoured electronica.

Here's a link ot her records in CDNOW:
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=644374763/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/dis
cography.html/ArtistID=HAZA*OFRA

One for the Black dog collaboration:
http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=644374763/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/dis
cography.html/ArtistID=BLACK+DOG+%28FT+OFRA+HAZA%29

And finally this was a review I wrote for the Black Dog/Ofra Haza's "Babylon"
http://www.all-reviews.com/music/babylonpt1.htm


bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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From: byost <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Senor Coconut
Date: 24 Feb 2000 12:34:57 -0600


<<SENOR COCONUT German Dance (Kraftwerk Covers) CD (AMCT japan).
Japanese only release by Senor Coconut (aka Atom Heart), whose previous
album was on Rather Interesting; file under simulation. >>

I'm on a mailing list about Atom Heart, who has recorded under dozens of
pseudonyms in a wide variety of styles.  The previous Senor Coconut CD was a
mix of old & new Latin stylings with plenty of electronics & computer
manipulation.  It was very highly regarded and is now out of print.

Some list members have complained that this new project actually sounds too
"authentic" -- i.e., one person said it sounded like Perez Prado had come to
life and recorded these Kraftwerk covers with his orchestra, and there was
little to none of the techno/electronica  or hard drive glitchery added to
it.

I think Other Music is selling the new CD at closer to $30, a bit lower than
the other prices quoted.

FWIW, I have some Senor Coconut from the first CD on my compilation for the
exotica exchange ring, if you're part of that.

The string quartet cover versions of Kraftwerk songs by the Balanesque (sp?)
Quartet was very good, in my opinion.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Ofra Haza
Date: 24 Feb 2000 13:04:29 -0500


Oh sad sad sad. She had a gorgeous voice, was a superb musician. I loved
her record that Don Was produced. Lost my tape of it after lending to a
friend. Anyone know the title? I'd like to retrieve it and play in her
memory. TIA for info.

Here's a translated lyric from Yemenite Songs, so y'all get a taste of what
Brian and Chuck and Nicola were raving about. Galbi from the record was a
club hit worldwide. Exotic percussion in abundance. From the liners: "By
using petrol cans and domestic trays, the Yemenite Jews circumvented the
ban on musical instruments imposed by orthodox Muslims,...  Played here by
Chaim Gispan, this percussion features strongly in the striking
arrangements..." Lots of yummy congos, timbales, and other wooden or metal
percussion along with plain old drums on the disk. Nothing compares to
hearing Ofra Haza sing though. Mimi

Sei' Yona
By Rabbi Shalom Shabazi from Ofra Haza's "50 Gates of Wisdom, Yemenite
Songs," Worldbeat EthnoPop/Shanachie, '87

=46ly, sweet dove, and harken my voice,
On the violin, play.
And in Your song, beware,
Soar swiftly
Do not wander into paths where evil may hide.
Take sustenance and fly
And we will take our pleasure
Until we are sated
And we will drank the springs of wisdom.
And we will sing to the sound of the harp,
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Subject:   (exotica) Bloton Redux
Date: 24 Feb 2000 14:04:01 EST



In a message dated 2/23/0 6:28:32 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>He (M.Boloton) grew up in Bridgeport, 20
>minutes down the coast from New Haven...don't know if he lived up in New
>Haven or not.

Mr Nit Pick backatcha..Just spoke to the wifelette. She maintains he threw up
in Woodbridge, right next to New Haven....Not that it matters in the
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Big Lazy/Lazy Boy
Date: 24 Feb 2000 11:14:12 -0800 (PST)


I saw this band in Arlington (opened for Deke
Dickerson & The Ecc-Fonics): great noir instrumental
surf-jazz (or as the V. Voice said "The soundtrack to
a life of slow grinds and deeply sucked cigarettes").
CD is worth grabbing if you're into this sort of
thing.

http://www.walrus.com/~biglazy
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Subject: (exotica) Balanescu/Haza
Date: 24 Feb 2000 14:28:48 -0500


That string quartet version of Kraftwerk tunes is:
Possessed by Balanescu Quartet
Mute -- A.D.A. -- - #61421 / November 10, 1992
1. Robots
2. Model
3. Autobahn
4. Computer Love
5. Pocket Calculator
6. Possessed
7. Want Me
8. No Time Before Time
9. Hanging Upside Down
=============
Ofra Haza's Don Was-produced disc is:
Kirya
Original Release Date: 1992
Shanachie
1. Kirya
2. Horashoot (The Bridge)
3. Innocent (A Requiem For Refugees)
4. Trains of No Return
5. Mystery Faith And Love
6. Daw Da Hiya - (w/Lou Reed)
7. Don't Forsake Me
8. Barefoot
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From: "ark edgar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:   (exotica) Bloton Redux
Date: 24 Feb 2000 21:14:41 -0000


Mikhael Bluton is a Knob jockey and that is all that needs said

I hate him and all he stands for


Bluton must be disregarded.



> >He (M.Boloton) grew up in Bridgeport, 20
> >minutes down the coast from New Haven...don't know if he lived up in New
> >Haven or not.
>
> Mr Nit Pick backatcha..Just spoke to the wifelette. She maintains he threw
up
> in Woodbridge, right next to New Haven....Not that it matters in the
> least....JB




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) other online auction sites
Date: 24 Feb 2000 16:32:23 -0500


Whenever we talk about on-line auctions, it's always eBay.
Anyone use any of the other online auction services?
Here's some info on other sites that I received -- any comments on
any of these?
-Lou

The cream of the crop of donated goods are found at the
shopgoodwill.com site, where one can bid on items ranging from a 1968
"Ken" doll to player piano rolls while contributing to this non-profit
organization's humanitarian works. Consult the personal shopper
feature to be updated via email when new items you might be interested
in come up for sale.
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/
(Of interest to Exoticians is this grab-bag:
http://shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=34418  -Lou)

Great Collections
Here is a site for the serious collector who is interested in things
like fine art, coins, and manuscripts. Fourteen auction houses from
around the world are listed, and there is everything from Persian rugs
and paintings to photographs and rock posters.
http://www.ebaygreatcollections.com/

boxLot.com
BoxLot.com takes auctions to the next level by providing visitors with
informative articles and interactive communities where they can share
information about their favourite collectibles. The 250,000 items for
sale at boxLot on any given day include stamps, Hollywood
collectibles, computers, and much more.
http://www.boxlot.com/

Auction-Sales
Computers, cell phones, jewelry, and more can all be had at Auction
Sales; if the price is right. Check out the Rebates Motel for rebates
on new computer equipment purchased through the site and if you're
looking for some real bargains, try the $1 starting bid directory.
http://www.auction-sales.com/

Bluecycle.com
This online auction site includes computers, electronics,
collectibles, and extra categories such as insurance salvage items and
"special auctions." According to the home page, a portion of every
sale goes to crime reduction programs in the U.K.
http://www.bluecycle.com/bluecycle.html

Fsauctions (Auction Universe U.K.)
Electronics, collectibles and more are available on this U.K. Web
site. The site includes a list by subject as well as features such as
"category spotlight" and "trader of the week." Other offerings
include directions on how to register, bid, and list an item, as well
as a tutorial on using the site.
http://216.33.88.52/

All Auctions, All the Time
If you're in the market to buy, AuctionInsider.com is the place to
start your shopping, and the choice of products is virtually
unlimited. AuctionInsider has links to almost every online auction,
neatly categorized by subject matter. It's searchable if there's a
specific item you seek or you can simply browse the lengthy listing of
all auctions.
http://www.auctioninsider.com/

Serious Collectors
Antique arms, armour, fine paintings, manuscripts, and militaria are
available on this site along with jewelry, porcelain, maps, and
globes. It claims that "use of this site indicates very good taste."
It will also require considerable money, hence the use of the term
"serious."
http://www.seriouscollector.com

Additional Sites
Looking for even more online auctions? Try these...
http://www.ebay.com
http://www.icollector.com
http://www.sothebys.com
http://www.butterfields.com



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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Kinky Beats
Date: 24 Feb 2000 13:55:55 -0800 (PST)





I think Br. Cleve and  the Millionaire  first brought this comp to our attention
but I just want to say this is the BEST comp I have heard in some time.  I avoided
getting it thinking exotica samples with modern beats would bore me.  Some of these
songs are straight ahead Now Sounds and could have been released in the late
60's.or put on the InFlight Karminsky Brother Comp.  Most  have more modern beats
but these beats are just cool and they blend perfect with the now sounds quality of
the music.

If this is a direction modern music is taking I hope to hop on this band wagon.
These songs could easily fit on the Blow Up comp and must really sound refreshing
on the dance floors around the world.

Any other great comps like this?

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Mystic Moods "One Stormy Night"
Date: 24 Feb 2000 14:05:33 -0800 (PST)




Played a nice fresh copy of this last night while I was reading the book Elevator
Music.   This really set the atmosphere.   Storm sound effects set to an amazing
selection of easy listing straight up not stirred.    I am really amazed by how
much this easy listening  music developed in a parallel universe from rock.

I am now searching for the "Tootsie Roll Center"  of bizarre straight ahead easy
listening.   Does it get any better than this album?

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Subject: (exotica) Kinky Beats
Date: 24 Feb 2000 14:28:02 -0800 (PST)




I think Br. Cleve and  the Millionaitre  first brought this comp to our attention
but I just want to say this is the BEST comp I have heard in some time.  I avoided
getting it thinking exotica samples with modern beats would bore me.  Some of these
songs are straight ahead Now Sounds and could have been released in the late
60's.or put on the InFlight Karminsky Brother Comp.  Most  have more modern beats
but these beats are just cool and they blend perfect with the now sounds quality of
the music.

If this is a direction modern music is taking I hope to hop on this band wagon.
These songs could easily fit on the Blow Up comp and must really sound refreshing
on the dancefloors around the world.

Any other great comps like this?

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Subject: Re: (exotica) other online auction sites
Date: 24 Feb 2000 18:30:56 EST


I have been to most of those auction sites you mentioned.  None of them have
nearly as many records as eBay.  Some only have 5 LPs and maybe 20 cds.  And
the prices are seem to be much higher than on eBay where there is more
competition.  I think I saw  that almost 200,000 records were up for auction
today on eBay.

I'd be glad to try some other place but ??????

There are a couple of record collector only auction sites but they too have
almost nothing --- 30 or so records, stuff like Hendrix on Reprise, easy
stuff.

Larry


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Subject:  Re:   (exotica) Bloton Redux
Date: 24 Feb 2000 18:38:39 EST



In a message dated 2/24/0 4:16:43 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Mikhael Bluton is a Knob jockey and that is all that needs said
>I hate him and all he stands for

It reminds me of the story of Mojo Nixon. One night about 5 years ago he was
performing the song "Don Henley Must Die" somewhere or other. Henley happened
to be in the audience and got up on stage and joined Nixon in a rousing
rendition of the song. Nixon, momentarily taken aback, announced that the
final performance of the song was just completed due to good sportsmanship on
the part of Henley. Nixon immediately renamed the song. Its title? "Michael
Bolton Must Die"!  JB


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Date: 24 Feb 2000 18:41:13 EST



In a message dated 2/24/0 4:54:39 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I think Br. Cleve and  the Millionaire  first brought this comp to our
attention
>but I just want to say this is the BEST comp I have heard in some time.  I
avoided
>getting it thinking exotica samples with modern beats would bore me.  Some
of these
>songs are straight ahead Now Sounds and could have been released in the late
>60's.or put on the InFlight Karminsky Brother Comp.  Most  have more modern
beats
>but these beats are just cool and they blend perfect with the now sounds
quality
>of
>the music.
>If this is a direction modern music is taking I hope to hop on this band
wagon.
>These songs could easily fit on the Blow Up comp and must really sound
refreshing
>on the dance floors around the world.
>Any other great comps like this?

You probably know about Ursula 1000...Not to be believed!! JB/lookin' for
Kinky Beats, but cannot find 'em


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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) From Erotic Films The Music Of Pleasure (CAM Records)
Date: 25 Feb 2000 01:31:50 +0000


Hi there,
I have this cd that I'd like to trade for another disc, if someone's
interested. Also a CD-R will do, and I'll send the original anyway.
The last time that I enthusiastically reviewed a disc (Ravi Harris &
the Prophets), the review was saluted in the list as a hail to a true
piece of vinylitc shit. So there's a mighty good chance you're gonna
like this. Frankly, I didn't but, you know, my leading motto has
always been "your trash, my treasure", and I guess this must also
work vice versa.

Tracks are:
Fred Bongusto: Sesso e volentieri
Fred Bongusto: Something Crazy
Nedo Benvenuti: Peccati a Venezia - 1
Nedo Benvenuti: Peccati a Venezia - 2
Franco Campanino: Je suis l'amour
Franco Campanino: L'attrazione
Gianfranco Plenizio: Valse satyrique
Gianfranco Plenizio: Tango del conte
Stelvio Cipriani: Ruta de los vulcanes
Stelvio Cipriani: Verso il matrimonio
Michel Colombier: Batucada erotica
Fran=E7ois Rauber: Antoine et Sebastien
Piero Piccioni: Preludio e canto
Alfonso Santisteban: Casta e pura
Willy Brezza: Eros Perversion
Giacomo dell'Orso: Via aerea
Piero Umiliani: Scusi, lei conosce il sesso?
Marcello Giombini: Revolucion
Teo Usuelli: Solco di pesca - 1
Teo Usuelli: Solco di pesca - 2
Stefano Liberati: Peccatori di provincia

Ciao everybody
Gionni


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Mystic Moods "One Stormy Night"
Date: 24 Feb 2000 19:32:22 -0500


>I am now searching for the "Tootsie Roll Center"  of bizarre straight
ahead easy
>listening.   Does it get any better than this album?

I don't know if you'll find it better, worse or sideways, but keep an eye
out for Mystic Moods' "English Muffins" -- late 60s Brit pop given the MM
treatment, including ambient sounds recorded in (presumably) London.

Includes such tunes as:

England Swings
Colour Of My Love
[note British spelling of "colour"]
Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)
Massachusetts

and several Beatles numbers, including a string section vs. fuzz guitar
rendition of "Something".

Lurid lips cover art too.


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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Grandmaster Flash
Date: 24 Feb 2000 20:29:59 -0500


Remember a while back I asked the list about the identity of a piece I had
on a tape by Grandmaster Flash?  I had several guesses,  none of which
seemed to be it so...I figured its time to put digital technology to help.
I've recorded a 25 second clip as a small (108k) .mp3 that I'd happily send
to anyone interested in solving this mystery. Wish I could offer a reward
but...

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From: Indulis R Rutks <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "The Savers" by Perrey-Kingsley
Date: 24 Feb 2000 22:17:24 -0600 (CST)


I recently picked up "Best of Moog". "The Savers" sounds very familiar -
for which game show was it the theme song: "Jokers Wild" or "Tic Tac
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From: "Kevin Leeeeee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) lust in space (not dimitri)
Date: 24 Feb 2000 21:46:32 MST


don't ask me if this is true or not...


SEX IN SPACE: It's complete lunar-cy


IAN SPARKS

ASTRONAUTS had sex on the American space shuttle - with the full
blessing of NASA bosses.

The zero-gravity nookie sessions were all in the cause of
finding which positions work best in a weightless environment.

But the men and women volunteers created their own atmosphere as
they went through TEN different lovemaking tests, says
astronomer Pierre Kohler.

Six positions used an inflatable tunnel with WALL straps.

They were designed to hold the lovers together - though the
other four positions allowed the couple to FLOAT freely about
the capsule.

Kohler, French author of many books on space, claims he has seen
secret files on the 1996 sexperi-

ments. He says NASA document number 12-571-3570 reveals that
mixed teams of astronauts were sent on four missions to boldly
go where no-one had gone before.

Well, at least not Yanks - though Russian Svetlana Savitskaia
was rumoured to have had sex with one or more of the four men
she spent a month with on the now-defunct Salyut-7 space station
in 1982.

And in 1991, Britain's first female astronaut Helen Sharman,
then 28, said she'd had "fantastic experiences" on the Mir
station with four cosmonauts.

This is not to suggest any impropriety - though one Russian said
the crew had "great fun" with Helen, who was videoed floating
around in a pink nightie!

Now Kohler, who makes his claims in his new book The Final
Mission, says: "Sex in space could have been tried out many
times.

"But the NASA experiments were possibly the first to find the
most effective ways of doing it if couples had to spend a long
time in space."







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From: Paul <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Grandmaster Flash "Superrapping Theme" on ENJOY
Date: 25 Feb 2000 00:42:38 -0800


> Remember a while back I asked the list about the identity of a piece I had
> on a tape by Grandmaster Flash?  I had several guesses,  none of which


my email response apparently went missing on its way to the list.

the record you cited lyrics to from G.M. Flash was "Super Rappin' Theme"
on ENJOY! Records  (not shouting thats how they render the label name)
from 1979.

there was only one GM Flash 12" on ENJOY, i am pretty certain.  i do know
that it proceeded all of their Sugarhill Records releases significantly.

its one of my most prized early 12"'s     lyrically hilarious !

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From: Michael Jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) CD for the lonely...
Date: 25 Feb 2000 11:08:56 +0000


http://www.newsunlimited.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,140490,00.html

there's also a CD released a little while ago in a simlilar vein with
sounds of various fridges on, i think.


(thanks for all who made East/West suggestions last week - greatly
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Subject: (exotica) CD for loners (2nd part)
Date: 25 Feb 2000 11:09:53 +0000


Forgot to say, if it makes you log in to read it, use exotica1 (one)
with the password 'exotica'...

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Ravi Harris
Date: 25 Feb 2000 07:00:10 EST


In a message dated 2/25/00 3:48:18 AM US Eastern Standard Time, Gionni writes:

<< The last time that I enthusiastically reviewed a disc (Ravi Harris &
 the Prophets), the review was saluted in the list as a hail to a true
 piece of vinylitc shit.  >>

Personally, I dig the Ravi Harris disc.  It's not something I would listen to
all in one sitting since it has a similar sound throughout.  But, a few
tracks at a time, it is quite groovy

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From: "Wayno" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dr Livingston, I presume?
Date: 25 Feb 2000 05:13:56 -0800




A friend is searching for a record he vaguely remembers from
his youth. It was a novelty 45, probably titled "Dr. Livingston
I Presume?" and that's about all he can remember, other than
thinking it was hilarious.

A search of the ASCAP and BMI web pages turned up a few items.
This one seems the most likely to me, since it was published
by Felsted Music, who were responsible for some oddball records:

DR LIVINGSTONE I PRESUME  BMI Work #339333
Writer: THOMAS RAYMOND

Publishers: FELSTED MUSIC CORPORATION  BMI
            PALACE MUSIC CO LTD        PRS

Unfortunately, I was unable to find a recording artist listed
for this one.

I know that Artie Shaw recorded an instrumental with the same
title, but I don't think that's what he's looking for.

There's also a Moody Blues song, but that's not the one either.

Anybody on the list know what this could be?

In research mode,

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Ravi Harris and chinese music question.
Date: 25 Feb 2000 07:32:40 PST


as i recall, the major gripe with the record was that it wasn't genuine
60s/70s sitar funk as it claimed to be. if you listen to the record the
sound is, indeed, very modern, particularly the bass (although the reissue
pressings that BBE records produce all have a very deep, warm, pronounced
bass sound (except where the original can't support it) and are thus very
handy for the modern dancefloor) there don't seem to be any effects used not
of the period. i would think the record was made on vintage equipment.
although, and here's the rub, the record actually never claims, if you read
the liner notes carefully, to *actually* be genuine old recordings. they
just give the impression that this is some mad old forgotten shit rather
than some people having a lark. a scam if you like. but if you like the
record (and i do, but it's not a huge favourite) there is no scam.

funnily enough i was playing a night of indian/ pakistani music in a hard
house club last night, and i didn't even consider bringing this record
along, although i did play quite a bit of non-genuine indian music. it's
just too chill for a dancefloor (particularly one as up as an indian night).
well there was a large chinese contingent there.
does anyone know any decent chinese dance music? i mean dance in the sense
that intersects with this list.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Ravi Harris and chinese music question.
Date: 25 Feb 2000 07:32:48 PST


as i recall, the major gripe with the record was that it wasn't genuine
60s/70s sitar funk as it claimed to be. if you listen to the record the
sound is, indeed, very modern, particularly the bass (although the reissue
pressings that BBE records produce all have a very deep, warm, pronounced
bass sound (except where the original can't support it) and are thus very
handy for the modern dancefloor) there don't seem to be any effects used not
of the period. i would think the record was made on vintage equipment.
although, and here's the rub, the record actually never claims, if you read
the liner notes carefully, to *actually* be genuine old recordings. they
just give the impression that this is some mad old forgotten shit rather
than some people having a lark. a scam if you like. but if you like the
record (and i do, but it's not a huge favourite) there is no scam.

funnily enough i was playing a night of indian/ pakistani music in a hard
house club last night, and i didn't even consider bringing this record
along, although i did play quite a bit of non-genuine indian music. it's
just too chill for a dancefloor (particularly one as up as an indian night).
well there was a large chinese contingent there.
does anyone know any decent chinese dance music? i mean dance in the sense
that intersects with this list.

thanks
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Dr Livingston, I presume?
Date: 25 Feb 2000 11:19:38 EST



In a message dated 2/25/0 8:14:44 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>A friend is searching for a record he vaguely remembers from
>his youth. It was a novelty 45, probably titled "Dr. Livingston
>I Presume?" and that's about all he can remember, other than
>thinking it was hilarious.

He's probably thinking of NYC's Janie Grant on "Are You Still Using That
Greasy Kid Stuff?" backed by the Hutch Davie Orchestra and reaching the #74
on Billboard position in mid 1962.... JB/proud owner of the single


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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) F & T meets The Joker's Wild
Date: 25 Feb 2000 21:25:27 +1100


Howdy kidlets,

I was the fella what told everyone here about Art Ferrante & Lou Teicher
reforming.  I've become good email pals with their manager Scott Smith.
Here's a snippet of some fascinating background into the path of their
career:

>>----Art & Lou never had a manager in the old days.
After 12 years 1948-1960--they were probably about to hang it up.  The
prepared piano recordings were a huge flop---their classical
concerts--although reviewed as fabulous--were not yielding much of a crowd.

It was Don Costa (producer-k) who experimented with various combinations of
music who
finally hit upon the huge commercial radio success.  At that time the
two-piano genius of F & T flew right out the window!  So--since 1960 they
have been serving up every hackneyed cliche known (or not known) to popular
music.  They always said---which would you rather do?  Play in a converted
boxing ring for 250 people---or play the Hollywood Bowl for 18,990---an
attendance record to this day!  Plus---they were getting older--late 30's by

that time--and they were getting tired of no recognition---needless to say
they had very little money!

The success of the Apartment and Exodus completely changed their
approach--and I can understand that.  The sound was great until about
1970---after Midnight Cowboy.  Having another Top 10 single at that time was

the worst possible thing--because they then starting becoming HIP!!!  Wrong
move!!!!  Radio had changed and the only format on which they could be heard

was "beautiful music".  Even the beautiful music programmers told them that
their arrangements were way too big-----go to the lush sound---EZ elevator
music ---if you want to be programmed.  So they did!  The 70's turned out
90%
schlock.  Nick Perito (2nd producer-k) pushed up the orchestra and drowned
out the pianos--so
Art & Lou starting writing less and less piano parts!<<<<

And he had this to say:

>>>>Regarding Exotica digest----you can mention that F & T are in the planning
stages of some new recordings----but please don't be too specific!  I'd hate

to disappoint anyone!

We don't yet know what the actual song titles will be---as they are
"experimenting" with the sounds and what specifically they can do with
certain melodies.  They might do Cole Porter---and then again they might do
"Titanic"---I just don't know yet!<<<<

Let's have a collective crossing of the fingers that they don't go with
Titanic, OK listees?

Not long after that last email segment (Sept.'99) , one of them became a bit
ill, and the practicing slowed to an ebb.  So I guess to sum it up, we're
still waiting, and I wouldn't hold my breath as to when and if something
comes of it.  Man, if I could be a fly on the wall as they stuff their
piano's fulla crap and PLAY!

In other news:  Indy, good ears---Perrey & Kingsley's THE SAVERS was The
Joker's Wild theme.

Sayonara,

Keith

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Subject:  Re: (exotica) Re: Ravi Harris and music question.
Date: 25 Feb 2000 11:23:35 EST



In a message dated 2/25/0 10:33:35 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>as i recall, the major gripe with the record was that it wasn't genuine
>60s/70s sitar funk as it claimed to be. if you listen to the record the
>sound is, indeed, very modern, particularly the bass (although the reissue
>pressings that BBE records produce all have a very deep, warm, pronounced
>bass sound (except where the original can't support it)

The same situation with the Crippled Dick's release of The Third Wave from
MPS. The bass is strong, not very warm, however, and doesn't fit well mixed
with other hippie pop of the same ilk not yet remastered. The 2000-print LP
does come with a poster though....JB


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From: dan hill <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) new motion reviews ---+ date: 25.feb.00
Date: 25 Feb 2000 18:10:01 +0000



---+ new reviews ---+ http://motion.state51.co.uk/reviews/

      Johnny Mandel - I Want to Live!: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
       (Rykodisc)
      Billy May - Johnny Cool: Original Motion Picture Score (Rykodisc)
      The Uri Caine Ensemble - Live in Concert/Gustav Mahler Festival
       (Winter and Winter)
      Bill Laswell - Hear No Evil (Meta)

thanks, and apologies for cross-postings

the motion team

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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) polish ye-ye
Date: 25 Feb 2000 21:19:03 +0000


Currently digging some old digests of missed posts, and found this:

> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:55:14 -0500
> From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
> Subject: (exotica) Polish ye ye?
>
> Are there any ye-ye compilations out there that include Polish "rock bands".
> Anyone heard of "Czerwono Czarni"? Their English name is "The Red and
> Blacks". I can't tell the year but I'm kind of hoping it's from the
> Communist era. I'm only hoping because "The group used to organize Concerts
> and Festivals of Young Talents" and for their sake, I hope that wasn't their
> choice of banner. I've had this record for years, didn't really like it but
> couldn't throw it out because of the cover photo. Now that I'm hearing all
> this ye-ye stuff, suddenly I've discovered a potentially unsung "ye ye" gem.
>  Ripe for reissue.

I LOVE non-english sung r&r/beat from the 50's & the 6ts. I mean,
just as much as the english-sung, which is undoubtely better when it
comes to music quality, but hasn't that exotic feel that only
unconventional singing can add.
I think the most brilliant and funny music of this kind comes from
South America (check out "Rare Mexican Cuts Of The Sixties", on the
French Eva label, "Sons Of Yma - A Collection of Peruvian Garage and
Instrumental Bands From the 60's", or the already mentioned vol. 2 of
"Planetary Pebbles" on A.I.P., called "Exitos A Go-Go". My favorite
combo of the lot is "Los Locos del Ritmo").
But I agree also the 6Ts music from the ex-communist countries is
fun. (While we're on the subject, I felt depressed when I read on the
back cover of "Planetary Pebbles, vol. 1: Surfbeat Behind The Iron
Curtain" that tracks from England and Italy were also included: will
someone please teach A.I.P. the ABC of history and geography?).
As for Czerwono Czarni, one track of theirs has been actually
reissued on the lp-only comp. "Project Blue, vol. 1: Back to the
Basements" on Destination X recs (2 more vols out, n.3 focusing
on Hong Kong bands). The record was released on 500 numbered copies,
but if you're interested I think I still can find some, as the label
happens to be from Bologna, my hometown, and I know the guy who runs
it. The only track reissued is "Big-Beatland" from 1967, and the
liner notes say: "a quite stupid title but groovy sounds for this
Poland combo. They recorded something like two lp's in their home
country but the other stuff is pretty forgettable".
Another little Italian label (Reverendo Moon, from Rome) put out an
lp comp called "Czechoslovakian Beat, 65-68". More recently has come
out "Yugobeat - 16 Mid-Sixties Punkers From Jugoslavia".
And French-sung Canadian garage-punk is great (Les Lutins, Les
Miserables, and the Purple Haze translated version as "Vapeur mauve"
by the Haunted kicks ass), and I also find Japanese garage an
absolute killer (two great comps out: "G.S. I Love You" and "G.S. I
Love You Too", both on cd).
I'm just mad about these things, and if out there someone shares this
insane passion of mine, I'll be more than happy to trade some of this
obscure recordings.
From behind the bologna curtain,
yours truly
gionni paludi


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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Robert Moog on NPR
Date: 25 Feb 2000 14:59:57 -0600


Hey, you moog madcaps.  Robert Moog is the scheduled guest on
Monday's Fresh Air, from your local NPR station.  According to the
blurb, he'll demonstrate the moog AND the theremin!  If there's no
Fresh Air in your town, listen to it online at 2:00pm Central time on
KANU at:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/

Fresh Air also has a website where you can download shows after
they've aired nationally:

http://whyy.org/freshair/

Thanks for the space.

Darrell Brogdon
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The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) great easy listening story
Date: 25 Feb 2000 20:16:20 -0500


I just received the latest issue of 'The Realist', and inside there is a
very good interview from 1960 with radio personality Jean Shepherd.
Thought you all would like to read the following short excerpt...
-----------
" Well, the weirdest thing that I've seen recently - I was working on a
movie script for the Durochemont Corporation, and it involved a trip on
a Navy vessel, and I was in a forward gun turret of this cruiser, and
these guys are getting orders, and all the stuff is going - radarscope
and everything - and what do you think they've got?  They've got a
little metal loudspeaker hanging over them and the ship has a record
room and it's playing Montovani records.

  Well, my God, I never would've believed it, but these guys are - "Off
40 degrees to the left, 17 degrees starboard" - they're getting ready to
fire a missile - and Montovani is playing "Sleepy Lagoon."  They've got
mood music. Dimitri Tiomkin will be writing original music for
cruisers.  "Music to Drop a Bomb By."
---------
This is from issue #143 (Spring 2000) of the Realist - it has a salute
to'Peanuts' on the front cover.

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Subject: (exotica) just a test - ignore
Date: 26 Feb 2000 12:35:55 -0500





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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) comp list
Date: 24 Feb 2000 18:00:27 -0500


Hi, all,

i'm trying to subscribe to the comp list as per instructions and keep
getting error messages (see below).

Can anyone help?

-------------------

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at onelist.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[e-mail]>:
[command]
You are already subscribed to the exoticaring group.  But this
is a restricted group and your membership has not been approved
by the moderator yet.  To contact the group moderator, send email to
[e-mail]


thanks!

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, February 27
Date: 26 Feb 2000 17:48:56 -0500


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm Eastern time on CKUT 90.3 FM in
Montreal, Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

As usual, all comments, questions, and feedback welcome.


Space Bop #84   Das Kraut-Beat

We've been thinking of how to follow up on this new breakbeat sound
which we've been concentrating on these past few shows... So this week,
we'll be playing some old and yet new sounds with a distinctly German
influence and sense of humour. We also wanted to highlight a
little-known but highly interesting project on our ever-favourite AtaTak
label, called "City Space" from 1991.


Kernkraftwerk:  Autobahn  "City Space"
Moebius & Plank:  Rastakraut Pasta  "Rastakraut Pasta"

Andreas Dorau:  Das ist das wirkliche Leben  "City Space"
Der Plan:  Tanz den Gummitwist (Kitschfinger Remix)  "Pocket CD"
Der Plan:  Uin Uin Mon Kona Bub Uin  "City Space"
Dauerfisch:  Leise Tickt Die Uhr  "Crime Of The Century"

Mind Bender:  Love Transporter  "City Space"
Transform:  Never Back To Earth  "City Space 2"
Boogie Mobile:  Time Gone  "City Space"

Mouse On Mars:  Bib  "Electric City"
Dauerfisch:  2000  "Pop Tics"
Freestylers:  Drop Tha Boom  "FSUK 2"


Thanks for reading.


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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 26 Feb 2000 18:00:41 -0600


The amazing voice of Leda Annest is one of the goodies you'll find
on this week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast.  We'll hear part of the
famous "Portrait of Leda", with music by Phil Moore.

Also on the show - Latin spice by the Dancing Voices, Percy Faith
and the Clebanoff Strings;  jungle jazz with Les Baxter and Don
Tiare (from Les Baxter tribute album);  plus guitarists Vinnie Bell
and Earl Backus (his forgotten album "Haunted Guitar" is a space
age classic!), Ferrante and Teicher, Peter Thomas and Mr. Bongo.

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, just go to:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html

Requires a 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer.  Or, tune in for
the realtime STEREO webcast at 7:00pm Central time Saturday
(tonight) at:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/realaudio/index.htm

As always, your comments, suggestions and requests are
welcome.

Thanks for the space!

Darrell Brogdon
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KANU FM 91.5
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The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
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From: Bissia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Air sleeve
Date: 27 Feb 2000 17:57:01 +0100


is it the one including the title : 'le soleil est pres de moi' ???

>Its a golden brown colour,  and it has AIR in stylized 3D letters in th=
>e
>centre. The brown background is a sun drenched road/motorway. JPEG? Dre=
>am
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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Kinky Beats
Date: 27 Feb 2000 17:14:25 -0500


Chuck wrote:

> I think Br. Cleve and  the Millionaitre  first brought this comp to our attention
> but I just want to say this is the BEST comp I have heard in some time.  I avoided
> getting it thinking exotica samples with modern beats would bore me.  Some of these
> songs are straight ahead Now Sounds and could have been released in the late
> 60's.or put on the InFlight Karminsky Brother Comp.  Most  have more modern beats
> but these beats are just cool and they blend perfect with the now sounds quality of
> the music.
> If this is a direction modern music is taking I hope to hop on this band wagon.
> These songs could easily fit on the Blow Up comp and must really sound refreshing
> on the dancefloors around the world.  Any other great comps like this?
I've done a huge selling job on this one myself since I got it and thanks surely
go to Br. Cleve for first mentioning it to me.  Remember the context
of this one? It was first mentioned in response to a question I put to
the list about the very unique sound of The Bobby Hughes
Experience which I'd heard on another compilation.  It went on from
there and I came to much the same conclusion as you did Chuck,
that this is a direction I want to pursue!

So... I would have to recommend Ursula 1000 as Jimmy says.  It is
in a class of its own and one of our all time favourites of recent
years!  You then must get The Bobby Hughes Experience  "Fusa
Riot" (Ultimate Dilemma). I also think you would like the "Jet
Society" comp. (18th Street Lounge) where I first heard The Bobby
Hughes Experience.  It also contains a great piece by the German
group Mo'Horizons.  I later got a CD of theirs that is quite good
itself. The rest of "Jet Society" is more Bossa inspired but I'm
certain you will like it all the same. Also highly recommended is
the DJ You DJ Me  "Simplemachinerock" release. Of course we've
searched all the aritist, labels, etc. that Br. Cleve recommended
and while hard to source, good news is they are becoming more
available... If the mail ever returns to normal here, I expect a CD by
The Resident Filters, Mint Royale and Jacknife Lee, three of the
best artists on Kinky Beats.  Also, I've put this off all week but I'm
going to go today to listen to one of the comps on FSUK (Future
Sounds of the United Kingdom) which has a lot of these groups on
them. The store here only has volume 2 and there are 4 volumes
with 2 CD's in each.  I suspect they are compiled from a lot of
these hard to find 12" singles. They cost a whopping CDN$36 each
(plus 15.5% tax) but nothing from the UK ever comes in here with a
reasonable price tag. Quite different from Europe, but I suspect the
relative strength (and weakness) of our respective currencies has
something to do with it.

Chuck, let me know if you don't have those posts from Br. Cleve as
we've compiled a small list of names, labels, etc... from them. As
we find more I will share our discoveries with the list and of course
with our listeners!

My philosophy on this music was that if I start to like dance music,
(I was one of those "death to Disco" types back in the 70's) there
must be something to this!  As I suspected, featuring this music on
our show a few weeks back generated a record number of calls and
interest.  Our City, like many others, is still caught up in that mind
numbing techno which I've always detested, so the dance music
stores here were of no use whatsoever.  Technoids do not generally
have much of a sense of humour and this music most certainly
does!  Seems the good old Acid Jazz section is the safest place to
find this stuff for now...

Happy hunting!


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McGill University
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bags
Date: 27 Feb 2000 14:28:56 -0800 (PST)


I am looking at ordering some vinyl bags to cover some
of my nicer albums.  But Bags Unlimited offers like 40
different choices.  Well, not forty, but I do have the
choice between

12 5/8 inch and 12 3/4 inch.  I like the tighter bag,
I think, unless it's a pain.

Also I can choose between 2, 3, 4 and 6 mils.

What do I know?

I dunno.

Anyone have any favorites, tips, wisdom or psychotic
ramblings they could impart?

Thanks,
Peter
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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Film Review: Breakfast of Champions (Martin Denny)
Date: 27 Feb 2000 14:29:01 -0800


I've added a review of the Breakfast of Champions movie which features
songs by Martin Denny... a must-read for Exotica fans interested in
sampling the movie.

http://www.kevdo.com/exotica/boc-review.html

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Kinky Beats/Soul Mission
Date: 27 Feb 2000 17:30:39 EST


My favorite track on the much-discussed "Kinky Beats" comp is "Jackie in
Action," by Soul Mission. Anyone have any information on these guys? The only
clue given by the liners is that they must be from Japan. A search to find
more music (hell, any music) by them has been futile.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Soundproof vs. Soundblast
Date: 27 Feb 2000 18:27:22 EST


For a few years I had assumed that "Soundproof" and "Soundblast" by F&T were
the same LP or maybe that one was the stereo version of the other.  Just
today, I came across a copy of "Soundblast" and have found it is a totally
different LP with totally different tracks.  Both are mono.  This is
certainly good news on the one hand since I've got another whole LP of F&T
prepared piano material.  On the other hand, I realize that I have been
living and spreading a lie (move over Jimmy Swaggart).  I just changed my
website which used to recommend "Soundproof (a.k.a. Soundblast)" to now
recommend both LPs

Now if I can just find that elusive copy of "Adventure in Carols"...

Also, it seems to me that someone on the list once said that the LP "We've
Got Rhythm" was "Blast Off" with added orchestra (like they did with their
Heavenly Sounds LPs).  If anyone has the scoop on this, your input would be
appreciated.

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Subject: (exotica) Kinky Beats Question
Date: 27 Feb 2000 21:32:35 EST


Somehow I missed the beginning of this discussion . Would someone mind giving
me the whole scoop on the Kinky Beats CD? Who's on it , what label etc.
Thanks a lot!  Bob


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Subject: (exotica) Friendly Persuasion - Week of 02/28
Date: 27 Feb 2000 23:10:20 -0800


Week of 02/28/00

The Friendly Persuasion Show

Cool and Strange Music Magazine's weekly radio show on Antenna
Internet Radio.
http://www.antennaradio.com/punk/friendlypersuasion/index.htm

Get your RealAudio player ready and tune in anytime during this week
to hear:

1.  Mister Rogers Introduction
2.  The Barry Gemso Experience - Buttercup Business
3.  The Glitterhouse and Bob Crewe - Barbarella
4.  Serge Gainsbourg - Ford Mustang
5.  Biz Markie - Bennie and the Jets
6.  Bruce Haack - Electric To Me Turn
7.  Mild Euphoria - Something Nasty in the Nursery
8.  AIR - J'ai Dormi Sous L'eau
9.  Bjorn Benny & Agnetha Frida - Ring Ring (Bara Du Slog En Signal)
10. Marty and Grover - Has Anybody Seen My Dog?
11. Barry White - You're The First, The Last, My Everything
12. Hot Ice - Under My Thumb
13. Eastside Connection - Frisco Disco
14. Learn how to Breakdance!
15. Ali & His Gang vs. Mr. Tooth Decay (theme song)
16. Love Trek
17. Stu Phillips - (Theme From) Battlestar Galactica
18. Learn how to Breakdance! (oh no. not again.)
19. Jane Birkin - Lolita Go Home
20. Anthony Quinn - What Is Love?
21. Serge Gainsbourg - Ballade De Melody Nelson / Ah! Melody
22. Lollipop Train - The Porpoise Song
23. Mister Rogers - Troll Talk


Enjoy!  . and as always. thanks for tuning in!

Chow,

Otis


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Soundproof vs. Soundblast
Date: 28 Feb 2000 07:15:30 EST


In a message dated 2/28/00 1:40:19 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< As I wrote some time ago, the stereo version of
 "Soundblast" and the stereo version of"Soundproof" are
 totally alike. Is there more bits to the puzzle
 missing?

 Peter
  >>

I went and pulled what I thought was my dupe copy of Soundproof.  It is in
fact a stereo copy of Soundproof  which matches up track for track with my
mono copy of Soundblast.  However, the stereo and mono copies of Soundproof
have totally different tracks!

Mono Soundproof (WP 6014) which is also a promo lists the following tracks:

What is This Thing Called Love?
El Cumbanchero
Greensleeves
Mississippi Boogie
Mermaid Waltz
Man From Mars
Baia
Breeze and I
Someone to Watch Over Me
African Echoes
Dark Eyes
Lover

Mono Soundblast (promo) (WP 6041) and stereo Soundproof (WST 15011) list
these tracks:

Peg-leg Meringue
Brazil
Poinciana
Mama yo Quero
Orchids in the Moonlight
Cumana
Tico-Tico
Frenesi
Mexican Hat Dance
Siboney
Loose Ends Meringue
La Cucaracha

And Peter has the stereo Soundblast which apparently matches the latter list.

Mystery solved!

The stereo and mono Soundproof do have the same picture on the front cover
and same liner notes.  Mono Soundblast has totally different liner notes.

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Subject: (exotica) [obits] Mary Sorrentino,Fred Rhoads, Lynn Shults, Eliot A. Caplin, Liam Clancy - NOT
Date: 28 Feb 2000 10:23:29 -0500


                          *Mary Sorrentino
    PALM SPRINGS, Calif. (AP) -- Mary Sorrentino, who was one of the
city's last restaurateurs with links to Palm Springs' movie colony
days, died Tuesday of cancer. She was 78.
    Sorrentino and ex-husband Bill Sorrentino opened their first
restaurant in Toluca Lake, on the edge of Los Angeles, in 1944. Bob
and Dolores Hope were among their first customers and they remained
friends when the Sorrentinos opened their Palm Springs seafood
house in 1966.
    Frank Sinatra developed his Steak Sinatra recipe with Bill
Sorrentino and it is still served at the restaurant. Sinatra
celebrated his 60th birthday at Sorrentinos and often visited the
kitchen staff when he dined there.
---
                            *Fred Rhoads
    GREENWOOD, S.C. (AP) -- Fred Rhoads, a cartoonist of the
post-World War II ``Sad Sack'' comics, has died. He was 78.
    Rhoads died Sunday from complications of Alzheimer's disease in
Greenwood, where he lived since December.
    The cartoonist drew the exaggerated life of a World War II GI
trying to cope with a civilian's life in ``Sad Sack'' comic books.
    The cartoon was initially created for Yank Magazine during the
war -- with the character a luckless draftee -- by George Baker. It
was resuscitated by Harvey Comics after the war.
    Rhoads was one of the artists who worked on the postwar ``Sad
Sack'' comic books, helping illustrate the character's comic woes
for more than 20 years.
    He once recalled that Baker's contributions were sometimes a
little racy.
    ``He was used to drawing for men in the service,'' Rhoads once
said. ``His humor tended to be more dirty. More sexy. And that
didn't work as well in the comic book.''
    Rhoads once sued Harvey Comics for more of the profits for his
efforts on ``Sad Sack'' comic books. A Pima County Superior Court
awarded him $2.6 million in the early 1980s, but that ruling was
reversed in the Arizona Court of Appeals.
    Rhoads also assisted ``Beetle Bailey'' creator Mort Walker,
Jimmy Hatlo, who did ``They'll Do It Every Time,'' and Fred
Lasswell, who created ``Snuffy Smith.''
    More recently, Rhoads worked for the Tucson (Ariz.) Citizen as
an editorial cartoonist in the 1980s and early 1990s.
    Rhoads studied art illustration in New York City from 1940-1942
until he joined the U.S. Marine Corps in World War II.
----
                            *Lynn Shults
    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Lynn Shults, a state Correction
Department spokesman who in a previous career helped discover
country music superstar Garth Brooks, died Thursday of an apparent
heart attack. He was 55.
    Shults, who just joined the state Correction Department on Feb.
1, collapsed after an afternoon meeting.
    Shults had a long career in the music industry, including jobs
with Acuff-Rose Publishing Co., Capitol Records, Atlantic Records,
and Billboard magazine. He was with Capitol in 1988 when the label
initially decided against signing Brooks.
    ``Lynn came out to a showcase and Garth happened to be one of
the performers,'' said Bob Doyle, Brooks' manager. ``He had the
courage to kind of rethink his earlier decision and advocated
signing Garth.''
---
    STOCKBRIDGE, Mass. (AP) -- Eliot A. Caplin, a writer who devised
the plots for a number of well-known comic strips, died Feb. 20. He
was 86.
    Caplin cooperated with artists who produced strips like ``Heart
of Juliet Jones,'' ``Big Ben Bolt'' and ``Dr. Bobbs.''
    Caplin was the brother of ``L'il Abner'' cartoonist Al Capp.
    Although the brothers never collaborated on a strip, Capp
conceived two strips that he passed along to Caplin. One, ``Abbie
an' Slats,'' which was drawn by Raeburn van Burne, lasted 23 years.
The other was ``Long Sam,'' drawn by Bob Lubbers.
    Capp shortened his name from Caplin so it would fit better in
comic strips.
    Caplin received little personal publicity because he wrote for
different feature syndicates that were not eager to promote someone
who also wrote for their competitors, his son, Donald, told The New
York Times.
    Caplin also wrote many plays, including ``Any Resemblance to
Persons Living or Dead,'' which was produced off Broadway in 1971.
    Caplin studied at Brown University and Ohio State University. He
earned a Purple Heart in World War II after being injured aboard a
minesweeper in the Pacific.
---
From the BBC --

Saturday, 26 February, 2000, 19:05 GMT

Irish folksinger enjoys virtual wake

Traditional Irish musician and singer Liam Clancy has said he has enjoyed
his own "virtual wake" on the internet after an American radio station
announced he had died.

He received over 1,200 condolences and tributes on his homepage within hours
of his misreported death.

 Liam Clancy and his brothers were folk hits in the 60s

"It is a very eerie feeling to get a preview of your own death," he said.

"People sent in memories of me and wonderful tributes."

Clancy said a man with the same name had died in the US and a New York
university radio station announced his death and then ran a special tribute
programme broadcasting his songs.

Members of the folk singer's family even telephoned his home from the United
States to find out about the funeral arrangements and were shocked when he
answered their calls.

With his brothers and singer Tommy Makem, Liam Clancy enjoyed huge success
in the folk boom of the 1960s.

The singer said that when the mistake was discovered his nephew sent him an
e-mail asking "How are things in Hell?"
---
THOUSANDS BID ADIEU TO THE VETERAN COMEDIAN
Kozhikode - The body of veteran comedian of Malayalam
screen Kuthiravattom Pappu, who died here last evening,
was consigned to flames at the Mavoor Road crematorium
this afternoon.

Earlier, his body was kept in the Bhashaposhini Library
before being taken to the town hall in a flower decked
van. Kerala finance minister T. Sivadasa Menon, cine
actors Mohanlal, Jayaram, Jagathi Sreekumar, Oduvil
Unnikrishnan, Kunjandi, Janardanan, Zeenath, director
V.N. Vinu, lyricist Girish Puthencherry and CPM leaders
M. Dasan and C.P. Kunju were among hundreds of people who
thronged the actor's house to pay their last respects.

The 62-year-old comedian, who had acted in more than 1000
films in a career spanning four decades, leaves behind a
history enscripted with his peculiar dialogue rendition
and down-to-earth characters in the minds of Malayalam
cine goers, reports UNI.
---
Joseph Wolfson, Surf Legend, Dies at 50
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From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moon Base Alpha is back
Date: 28 Feb 2000 16:09:51 +0000


Well, my show Moon Base Alpha is finally back on the air for a few
shows.  We did our first of the broadcast yesterday and a playlist
should be on the show's website within the next few days.

The show is going out Sundays 1200-1330 on Fresh Air FM
(http://www.freshairfm.co.uk/), 87.7 MHz and the coverage is Edinburgh
(UK) city limits.

If anyone has promo copies of anything they think I might like, do
please get in touch - there are two more shows this broadcast.


Robbie (aka DJ Bongo Boy)

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From: Reader Geoff <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) more mr hazlewood
Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:12:21 -0000


Been off for a week,  Laid some Exotica and groovy soundtracks on the
Fashion conscious public at 40 degrees at Earls Court again.  Bit less
traumatic than last time, although we saw off new boys band 'Northern Line'
(stage too small,  didn't like our ambiance) and Giorgio from Nightmares on
Wax,  (turned up late,  was double booked against us and sulked when his
'representative' couldn't bully us off.  wanker).

But anyway, Got 13 and Cowboy in Sweden on Vinyl last weekend on Smells Like
Records.  I was a bit disappointed with 13 at first,  the reviews of it made
a lot of play on the fact that it was arranged by someone who did cartoon
soundtracks,  so I was expecting something a lot more off the wall.  When
what you got was somewhere between solid funk, Staxy ballads and Soft Parade
era Doors.  The Juxtaposition of Lee Hazlewoods voice over the Funk tracks
that open up each side is a little bizarre at first,  but I think its a
great record,  if very short,  but no way worth the silly money the original
is supposed to go for.

Cowboy in Sweden is more Lee Hazlewood in customary Country-ish mode.  I
swear I know half the songs on here,  the just settle into your song
memories so nicely.  Did Johnny cash ever cover any Lee Hazlewood songs?
'pray them bars way'  just sounds custom made for him.  Apart from that
spent hours browsing the charity shops and nothing at all to show for it
apart from a Pierre Cardin suit for the summer (7 pounds),  not a sniff of a
decent record.  Never mind.

Thanks for all that on Shriners  I was sorry  I asked at one stage,  but if
you got to worry about world domination why look any further than the WTO?
They don't even try to hide it.

But then again, Nat might be right,  Stand up for yourself!  Burn your
Fez's!


El Maestro Con Queso

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From: "Br. Cleve" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Soundproof vs. Soundblast
Date: 28 Feb 2000 12:54:50 -0500


At 7:15 AM -0500 2/28/00, [e-mail] wrote:

>[e-mail] writes:

><< As I wrote some time ago, the stereo version of
> "Soundblast" and the stereo version of"Soundproof" are
> totally alike.

>I went and pulled what I thought was my dupe copy of Soundproof.  It is in
>fact a stereo copy of Soundproof  which matches up track for track with my
>mono copy of Soundblast.  However, the stereo and mono copies of Soundproof
>have totally different tracks!

>The stereo and mono Soundproof do have the same picture on the front cover
>and same liner notes.  Mono Soundblast has totally different liner notes.

And in conclusion - - there is no stereo version of Soundblast, although I
was informed once that it exists in stereo on a reel to reel version. But
I've never seen it.

Oh those wacky low budget record companies!

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From: "Ponak, David" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Liquid Room 2/26/00
Date: 28 Feb 2000 10:17:27 -0800


The Liquid Room airs every Saturday Morning (Friday night) from 3-6 on 90.7
FM KPFK. (98.7 in Santa Barbara County).

Also check out my show  The Nice Age at  http://www.spikeradio.com on Sunday
afternoons from 3-6 PM, PST.

The Liquid Room-2/26/00:

1.The Association-Come On In
Birthday (Warner Bros.)

2.Pizzicato Five-20th Century Girl (Instr. Vers.)
12" Single (*********-Japan)

3.Hugo Montenegro-MacArthur Park
Moog Power (RCA)

4.Senor Coconut Y Su Conjunto-Tour De France
El Baile Aleman (East/West-Japan)

5.Hot Ice-(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
Stone Disco (Radio)

6.Satisfaction Skank-Fatboy Slim

7.Clinton-Button Down Disco (Fila Brazillia Disco Frisco Mix)
Disco & The Halfway TO Discontent (Luaka Bop/Astralwerks)

8.Frank Sinatra Jr.-Now Is The Time
His Way! (Daybreak)

9.Tom Jones w/The Divine Comedy-All Mine
Reload (Gut-UK)

10.Spanky & Our Gang-Since You've Gone
Without Rhyme Or Reason (Universal)

11.Primal Scream-Keep Your Dreams
XTRMNTR (Creation-UK)

12.Swing Slow-Good Morning Mr. Echo
Swing Slow (Mercury-Japan)

13.Happy End-Sayonara America Sayonara Nippon
Happy End (Bellwood-Japan)

14.Haruomi Hosono With Friends Of Earth-Androgena
SFX (Teichiku-Japan)

15.Love, Peace & Trance-Mammal Mama
Love Peace & Trance (Sony-Japan)

16.Underworld-8 Ball
The Beach Soundtrack (London)

17.Dusty Springfield-Yesterday When I Was Young
Dusty In London (Rhino)

18.Burt Bacharach-Knowing When To Leave
Make It Easy On Yourself (A&M)

19.Mellow-Another Mellow Winter
Another Mellow Winter (Atmospheriques-France)

20.The Bugaloos-If You Become A Bugaloo
The Bugaloos (Capitol)

21.The Heavy Blinkers-Dressing Down
The Heavy Blinkers (Brobdingnagian)

22.The Critters-Awake In A Dream
Touch 'N Go With The Critters (Project 3)

23.Rocky Chack-Change
Single (Midi-Japan)

24.The Free Design-Love Does Not Die
There Is A Song (Tokuma-Japan)

25.Oasis-Little James
Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants (Sony)

26.Tom Scott with The California Dreamers-Today
The Honeysuckle Breeze (Impulse-Japan)

27.Console-14 Zero Zero
Rocket In The Pocket (Matador)

28.The Singers Unlimited-You Are The Sunshine Of My Life
Feeling Free (MPS)

29.Joni Mitchell-Stormy Weather
Both Sides Now (Reprise)

30.Jack Jones-What Are You Doing For The Rest Of Your Life
Jack Jones Sings Michel Legrand (RCA/Laserlight)

31.Charles Fox-Long Ago Yesterday
Love American Style Soundtrack (Capitol)

32.Senor Coconut Y Su Conjunto-Autoban
El Baile Aleman (East/West-Japan)

33.From Bubblegum To Sky-Shaboom They Said
The Shadows Of Goodbye-Me And Amy And The Two French Boys (Eenie Meenie)

34.The New Wave-The Shadows Of Goodbye
The New Wave (TNW)

35.Eels-Grace Kelly Blues
Daisies Of The Galaxy (Dreamworks)

36.Don Costa-Heroes And Villains
Modern Delights (Verve)

37.Supreme Beings Of Leisure-Never The Same
Supreme Beings Of Leisure (Palm Pictures)

38.The Carnival-Love So Fine
The Carnival (World Pacific)

39.The Raymakers-Mike Love Is A Joke
The Raymakers (Demo)

40.Teresa-Spooky
Anita Kerr Presents Teresa (Dot)

41.Arling & Cameron-Space Beach
Music For Imaginary Films (Emperor Norton)

42.Keith Textor & Friends-Fool On THe Hill
Hold Me (A&R)

43.Lady Nelson & The Lords-Picadilly Pickle
Picadilly Pickle- (ABC Dunhill)

44.Paul Williams-Morning I'll Be Moving On
Someday Man (Reprise)


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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Here's Br. Cleve's "list"
Date: 28 Feb 2000 14:01:40 -0500


After being swamped with requests for this information, I'll post all
that I have on the subject it to the list.  I think the discussion first
began around the subject of a type of music that mixed new and
old sounds to create something quite unique, likely relating to The
Bobby Hughes Experience... BTW, I've picked up FSUK volumes 2
& 3 compilations and they're less "refined" than Kinky beats but
very much in the same style (also a mix of originals and remixes)
and well worth giving a listen to.

Br. Cleve wrote:
> There is a style of electronic music that does this all the time. It's
> called breakbeat. It's not very popular in the U.S. yet (except in
>  Miami), but you can hear lots of it in Europe and Japan. It's funk
> based, features lots of ez samples as well as TV and movie
> dialogue, etc, and generally has lots of melodic things going on.
> Some of it contains real songs that listees would know :
> Skeewiff's "New Avengers Theme", MIke Young's
> "Telstar", Mucho Mambo's "Sway", Three Amigo's "Louie Louie",
>The Wiseguy's remix of Beck's "Sex Laws", Rolling Stoned's
> "Jumpin Jack Flash", Fat Boy Slim's "Satisfaction"; Jacknife Lee
> even takes the blooper tape of Casey Casem doing the "fucking
> dead dog" routine and puts it over some funky beats. The truly
> fab Ursula 1000, who twists up the theme to Bedazzled on
> his debut disc "The Now Sound Of Ursula 1000" (18th St. Lounge
> Records), spins a great night of this stuff at Drinkland in NYC on
> Thursdays.

> I mentioned this one before, but if anyone's looking for a good intro to
> the world of breakbeat, you must find the album "Kinky Beats" on the
> Lacerba (UK) label, available in both LP and CD formats. It features new
> break tracks interspersed with 70's Now Sound and funky breaks (like the
> Incredible Bongo Band's version of 'Apache'). Other highly recommended
> LP's include "El Grand Ritmo de Mike Young"- Mike Young (Donna Lee, UK), "Muy
> Rico!" - Jacknife Lee (Pussyfoot, UK), "Fusa Riot" - Bobby Hughes
> Experience (Ultimate Dilemma, UK), "Conga Heaven, Bongo Hell" - Los
> Chicharrons (Tummy Touch, UK), "Confessions of a Selector" - Tim "Love"
> Lee (Tummy Touch, UK), "It's A Finger Lickin' Thang" - V.A. (Finger Lickin',
> UK). Other labels to keep an eye out for include Marble Bar, FSUK, Wall
> Of  Sound, Jalapeno, and Faith & Hope.

This is the resource reference that Cleve mentioned:

http://www.juno.co.uk/

I would also add the AtaTak - City Space compilation to the above
list, for a different take on the subject! City Space 2 is a bit more
electronic and less quirky... I'm not sure how you would get it but
they are both available via the AtaTak website if all else fails.  I
think that was how we got them, back in 1991:

http://www.atatak.com

Also I've attached Moritz's explanation of City Space as there is no
information on the disc about who made it and we always assumed
it was AtaTak people behind it.

> yes, you guessed right, the makers of City Space are a few
> known people who came up with a couple of made up band
> names. Dorau was behind 5 pieces you played, I must say, I
> never liked his Kitschfingerremix of Gummitwist that much, but I
>  still like Kernkraftwerk, Mind Bender, Boogie Mobile, all done
>  together with Tommi Eckart. Dorau is also behind Orgyn, Tiny
>  Sexy People, and worked with us on the Ghetto Twins track. My
>  Wonderful World is Kurt with, I think it was Thomas Schwebel,
> ex-Fehlfarben. Ready Made is Thomas Fehlmann, ex-Palais
>  Schaumburg, just like Ralf Hertwig, who did the Schreibmaschin
> -piece.The rest, Groove Fighters and Hoover Men, is simply Der
>  Plan; I hope I remember all of this correctly.


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Spin CD?
Date: 28 Feb 2000 16:53:50 -0500


LPs have been known to revolve at 16, 33 1/3, 45 and 78 RPM.  How fast do
Audio CD's spin?

Brian Phillips




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Spin CD?
Date: 28 Feb 2000 17:13:35 -0500



Brian Phillips <[e-mail]> wrote:
> LPs have been known to revolve at 16, 33 1/3, 45 and 78 RPM.  How fast do
Audio CD's spin?
==============

"The CD drive motor is precisely controlled to rotate between 200 and 500
RPMs depending on which track is currently being read."

I got this info from the nifty site http://www.howstuffworks.com

The address for the How-CDs-Work page is:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/cd.htm

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From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Spin CD?
Date: 28 Feb 2000 14:23:58 -0800


Lou <[e-mail]> wrote:

> "The CD drive motor is precisely controlled to rotate between 200 and 500
> RPMs depending on which track is currently being read."

Quite intuitive given the constant 'density' of bits in the media.

The next obvious question is whether the audio properties of an LP are
superior for the first track where you get effectively more grove distance
per unit of time (given the fixed rotational speed)?

Erik
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From: "Giovanni Berti" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 28 Feb 2000 23:45:16 +0000


Roy ([e-mail]) wrote me off-list:

> Hello Gionni,
> I was speaking on the phone to Chuck in New Orleans and he mentioned you. He
> said you have children. It seems an unusually large number of people on the Exotica
> mailing list have small children. I have a daughter, Abigail who just turned 3 year old.
> Four of the other people I trade with from the list have 2-4 year olds, Domenic
> Ciccone, Peter Risser, Keith Lobue and Tiki Bob, not to mention Chuck. This
> is odd.

Okay, we're now curious to know who else is in the club. I already
know we should add Cheryl & Brian.
We realize this is straight off topic (but I can tell that being a
parent is an "incredibly strange" experience), but we think that some
relief from our vinyl addictions will make our life happier.
I actually have one child, Maria Stella: she's going to be 4 in
April, and she already DJ's and belly dances (still have to buy her a
fez, tho).
Ciao to all you mama's & papa's
Papagionni (that's how she calls me, makes me feel a raggamuffin
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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 28 Feb 2000 14:52:12 -0800 (PST)


Don'T forget to add the amazing Citizen Kafka who doesn't let his little girl stop
his record collecting.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) three suns get hitched
Date: 28 Feb 2000 22:55:09 -0500


From The "How could I miss that before?!?" Dept:

Tonight I noticed that The Three Suns make an extended audio cameo
appearance in Alfred Hitchcock's movie, "Rope" (1948).

The official credit is "Radio Sequence by The Three Suns."

About halfway through the film, a character turns on a radio... music plays
in the background for a little while. And it is indeed The Three Suns, in
their earlier, softer mode. With some orchestra and wordless chorus
accompanying them now and then.

Anyone know anything more about this? Thanks.


m.ace  [e-mail]
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 28 Feb 2000 23:33:36 -0500


Giovanni Berti wrote:

> > Four of the other people I trade with from the list have 2-4 year olds, Domenic
> > Ciccone, Peter Risser, Keith Lobue and Tiki Bob, not to mention Chuck. This
> > is odd.
>
> Okay, we're now curious to know who else is in the club. I already
> know we should add Cheryl & Brian.

Yes, that would be us.  Alexander will be 4 in June - he's been
listening to exotica music pretty much since he was conceived - and he
loves to bring all his musical instruments into one place, and play
along with whatever music is on the stereo - especially if it's Peter
Thomas, for some reason!

It's really neat to see how a child can relate to this music - in my
case (and many of the others, I suspect) we were probably listening to
much the same music at that age, too!

ciao,

cheryl (trying to keep a Barney-free household)


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 29 Feb 2000 00:50:41 EST


Me too, my son is 3 1/2.  Right now his favorite song is "Mickey" by Toni
Basil.  His favorite video (musically) is the Cramps rawther lewd vid for
"Ultra Twist."  Previously he's gone through big B-52s and Talking Heads
phases.  What can I say?  He's got a strong New Wave gene.  One of my biggest
thrills of parenthood was driving to work one day (where his daycare is also)
and hearing him softly sing along with the radio (he was barely 2): "Sweet
Jane...Sweet Jane..."

--David


Giovanni Berti wrote:

> > Four of the other people I trade with from the list have 2-4 year olds,
Domenic
> > Ciccone, Peter Risser, Keith Lobue and Tiki Bob, not to mention Chuck.
This
> > is odd.
>
> Okay, we're now curious to know who else is in the club. I already
> know we should add Cheryl & Brian.

Yes, that would be us.  Alexander will be 4 in June - he's been
listening to exotica music pretty much since he was conceived - and he
loves to bring all his musical instruments into one place, and play
along with whatever music is on the stereo - especially if it's Peter
Thomas, for some reason!

It's really neat to see how a child can relate to this music - in my
case (and many of the others, I suspect) we were probably listening to
much the same music at that age, too!

ciao,

cheryl (trying to keep a Barney-free household)


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From: Philip Jackson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 29 Feb 2000 21:36:29 +1100


on 29/2/00 10:45 AM, Giovanni Berti at [e-mail] wrote:

>
> Okay, we're now curious to know who else is in the club.

Full time dad to two boys. Jesse 3 1/2 - bought up on Moondog as sleep music
for the first 18 months now a fan of "robot music" as he calls it
(Kraftwerk, Air, YMO) and Luke 5 months, a sometime "Soothing Sounds For
Babies" guinea pig.

Less time for record hunting but it has got me buying old children's
records. Some of which are great (most not).

Philip

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Spin CD?
Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:38:43 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> "The CD drive motor is precisely controlled to rotate between 200 and 500
> RPMs depending on which track is currently being read."

I never noticed any difference in the noise the CD drive makes during the
beginning of the CD as compared to the end. But you are right: the digital
units burnt into the CD all  have the same size, unlike the waves of a vinyl
groove, which are getting shorter and shorter the nearer the record comes to
the end.

Eric wrote:

>The next obvious question is whether the audio properties of an LP are
>superior for the first track where you get effectively more grove distance
>per unit of time (given the fixed rotational speed)?

More groove distance? No. Longer waves - yes. But wether that's an advantage I
doubt; it definitely means there will be more dust particles per inch. It
could be of a certain advantage for very high frequences, as you can squeeze
them better in a longer groove. A higher speed also means more pressure energy
on the needle, which could result in a bit more dynamic range, as in a Maxi,
compared to an LP. It also means the record should wear off faster in the
beginning than in the end of a record side. I doubt though that you will be
able to actually hear any of these differences.

Mo



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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 29 Feb 2000 08:59:18 EST


In a message dated 2/29/00 12:52:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Giovanni Berti wrote:

 > > Four of the other people I trade with from the list have 2-4 year olds,
 Domenic
 > > Ciccone, Peter Risser, Keith Lobue and Tiki Bob, not to mention Chuck.
 This
 > > is odd.
 >
 > Okay, we're now curious to know who else is in the club. I already
 > know we should add Cheryl & Brian.
  >>

My son Ely (pronounced E-Lee -- like the old Tarzan star Ron Ely) will be 3
in July.  He grew up (and out) with Exotica as I played it loud enough so he
could hear it in the womb.

One of my many fanaticisms, is collecting Magnavox consoles and record
players.  The bigger the console the better.  Well, when he was born, I added
console number 3 and needed a place to put it.  So it logically went into the
baby's room ("He needs music in there!" I told my wife.)  For the longest
time Exotica (1) was his favorite, particularly Hong Kong Blues (he liked all
the banging and clanging).  I swear to God, one of the first statements was
"Play Martin Denny."

Real excitement came when we switched over to The Enchanted Tiki Room album.

BTW, to show how kind this List's members are, a fellow member found out I
was looking for a Tiki Room album and offered to send me his, no charge.  I
nearly cried when later he told me he had had it since his teenage years.  I
eventually located a copy my self and graciously returned the original to it
"rightful" owner.

Anyway, he knows all the words to the Tiki Room album.  For some reason,
every so often, something will set him off and in the middle of what he is
doing he will say, "Ahhhhh, buenos dias senorita, my siestas are getting
chorter and chorter, oh look at all the people, and welcome to Walt Disney's
Enchanted Tiki Room.  Michael, mi amigo, pay attention it's show time . . . .
.So it is!  And what darling people I have sitting under me . . . . . . . . "

He even does the accents and inflections!  It makes a daddy proud.

I also have the Tiki Room tracks on my computer and will play them that way
for him (as I try to type while he sits on my lap).  We were at a restaurant
the other night and the waiter entered the order on one of those touch screen
computers and Ely asked him, "Would you play the Tiki, Tiki, Tiki Room?"

Ely can correctly identify Martin Denny in pictures and album covers.  I tell
ya, the child is brilliant!

The current craze, it listening to Tomorrow Land's Carousel of Progress Show
(the "Now Is The Time" version).

I recently added yet another Magnavox console.  A 1964 unit that is the
biggest one yet (15 bucks - Salvation Army).  I had to locate it in the
garage/workshop.  That's OK tho, it insures LP play while he and I fiddle in
the garage.

And I hope not to offend, but I am keeping him away from that punk rock stuff.

Tiki Bob


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 29 Feb 2000 08:59:46 -0500


When my nephew George was six, his dad planned a pretty exciting weekend: a
basketball game with the Chicago Bulls (Michael Jordon, one of George's
heros) and, mostly for dad, a show at the Philly community center that was
the Sun Ra Archestra's home base. George was blown away by Sun Ra, and
small wonder. In the traditional parade round the hall that highlighted Sun
Ra shows, the Master Himself spotted George and led the parade over to a
squirty, thrilled little boy. In school the next day George was called up
for Show N Tell. "Here's the thing," my brother said. "George didn't even
mention seeing Air Jordon, like most kids would. He talked about Sun Ra and
how cool the music was." And George's favorite song from childhood? "Nights
in Tunesia." That's rearing a child right.

Nice thread. Thanks Giovanni. Mimi =20




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Second Hand
Date: 29 Feb 2000 11:06:37 -0500


I recall that a good while ago someone mentioned a forthcoming book
called "Second Hand: A Novel; by Michael Zadoorian."

I notice that the book is now available.

Can anyone who reads it provide a short review? Thumbs up, down, whatever?

Thanks!

-Lou
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Dr Livingston, I presume?
Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:45:28 +0100


"Wayno" wrote:
>
>A friend is searching for a record he vaguely remembers from
>his youth. It was a novelty 45, probably titled "Dr. Livingston
>I Presume?" and that's about all he can remember, other than
>thinking it was hilarious.

    maybe it was "Mister Livingston" by larry Verne, a follow-up to his
"Mister Custer" which hit #1 in the 1960 billboard hot 100. he did a whole
LP around the same concept, but Livingston & Custer are the stand-outs.

        Johan

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dr Livingston, I presume?
Date: 29 Feb 2000 10:17:23 -0800 (PST)


Re: Larry Verne:
Good LP - it has a track called Beatnik - his
character being a southern country boy who wanders
into a beatnik cafe and begins to blend in... poetry
and jazz -


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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Grandmaster Flash
Date: 29 Feb 2000 13:21:50 -0500


Thanks to all those that helped me out with the Grandmaster Flash
mystery.  It is indeed Super Rappin' Theme!  Now a follow-up
question... Are there different versions of this piece?  The sample I
heard from one of the comps at CDNow sounded a bit different than
the one I have. Then there's a reference to a piece called Super
Rappin No.1 on another compilation.

Will wrote:
> you fgured out what this is already, right ? it's from Superrappin'.
> I found it on a double lp Best of Enjoy set
I doubt ENJOY records has reisued a CD of the above. I've
discovered that GM Flash is found in a lot of compilations!  Not
surprising considering how ahead of its time this music was. Does
anyone have any recommendations, preferably with this  piece
included?  I'm a bit lost given the volume of output and reissues
available.

Thanks,


Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:  (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:30:24 EST



In a message dated 2/28/0 5:39:40 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Okay, we're now curious to know who else is in the club. I already
>know we should add Cheryl & Brian.

I claim membership in the club with Leah, 7.5 and Peter, just 5. Peter
recently hosted "Peter's Rock "n" Roll Party" for himself. The kids like the
music in the car and at home and my vinyl addiction, though time-consuming,
is an accepted outlet around here by and large...Jimmy Botticelli/ if you're
really dying for a look at a sleeker me and my family--and I just know you
are-- visit   http://ww3.shore.net/~magnus/


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Subject: Re:  Re:  (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:39:28 EST



In a message dated 2/29/0 2:31:43 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I claim membership in the club with Leah, 7.5 and Peter, just 5. Peter
>recently hosted "Peter's Rock "n" Roll Party" for himself. The kids like the
>music in the car and at home and my vinyl addiction, though time-consuming,
>is an accepted outlet around here by and large...Jimmy Botticelli/ if you're
>really dying for a look at a sleeker me and my family--and I just know you
>are-- visit   http://ww3.shore.net/~magnus/
I FORGOT TO TELL YOU TO CLICK THE PORTRAITS LINK~


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From: Erik Hoel <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 29 Feb 2000 11:41:05 -0800


Hmmm.

I too am conducting a cruel experiment of this sort with my 4 and 5 year
old. In addition to exotica, they are more comfortable with LPs than CDs.

One question - are Louis Prima/Keeley Smith/Sam Butera considered exotica?
Maybe I'm really doing the Lounge Kindergarten ...

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dr Livingston, I presume?
Date: 29 Feb 2000 14:44:49 -0500



> >A friend is searching for a record he vaguely remembers from
> >his youth. It was a novelty 45, probably titled "Dr. Livingston
> >I Presume?"


On the completely opposite end of the spectrum, the Moody Blues also
recorded a song called "Dr. Livingston, I Presume"

Stanley




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From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RPM
Date: 29 Feb 2000 12:29:49 -0800


exotica-digest wrote:

>The next obvious question is whether the audio properties of an LP are
>superior for the first track where you get effectively more grove distance
>per unit of time (given the fixed rotational speed)?

Center grooves are usually lower quality than outer grooves, but not
for the reason you cite. Most turntables put more pressure on the
outer edge of the grooves at the center because of the increased angle
of the tone arm. Anti skate mechanisms are designed to apply more
resistence as the arm swings inward to compensate for this.

See ya
Steve

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  Re:  (exotica) The Exotic Kindergarten
Date: 29 Feb 2000 16:23:48 -0500



The correct URL is http://www3.shore.net/~magnus/




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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) personal AND public apology
Date: 29 Feb 2000 19:07:47 -0500


Hi, Gianni,

Your package was mailed today via parcel air mail, estimated receipt 4-7
days. For everyone else, he sent me a trade tape 11 MONTHS ago and it
took me this long to pull it together.

Sorry. There are 5 CDs in the package, so i hope that helps some...

If anyone else is owed a package by me, please let me know. things are a
bit better here!

thanks for letting me confess,

ck

And, as Chuck points out, my 5 almost 6 year old daughter is totally
immersed. Can handle vinyl by the edge, shellac with care, operates the
turntable and the cd deck, and can identify themes when heard
independent of the source... also said last week that willy nelson
inhales/breathes differently when he sings than john lennon. duh...

ck


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Family Portrait
Date: 29 Feb 2000 19:16:46 EST


I know this is obnoxious and off topic, but since I just found out that this
exists yesterday and the "do you have kids" thread started today, my family's
cool and strange portrait can be found (finally!) for those that  give a
rat's ass at        http://www3shore.net/~magnus/   then click on
"portraits".....

        Thanks Brian and Chuck and sorry to bother anyone not interested

JB


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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Family Portrait
Date: 29 Feb 2000 20:52:40 -0500


OK,

here's Sarah about 8 months ago:

http://www.megasaver.com/pix/sarah867.jpg

.... have to take some pictures with discs!

ck


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From: Kevin Crossman <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Family Portrait
Date: 29 Feb 2000 18:38:52 -0800


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> I know this is obnoxious and off topic, but since I just found out that this
> exists yesterday and the "do you have kids" thread started today, my family's
> cool and strange portrait can be found (finally!) for those that  give a
> rat's ass at        http://www3shore.net/~magnus/   then click on
> "portraits".....

Actually, that would be http://www3.shore.net/~magnus/   (ah, the
difference a dot makes)

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From: "Keith E. Lo Bue" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ExotiKid=?ISO-8859-1?B?gQ==?=
Date: 01 Mar 2000 13:00:29 +1100


My Mira, just over two, rocks righteously to all my wacky stuff, but only
when my wife is at work (she hates my music...why are we together, you ask?
I wonder myself at times).  Mira's fave picks to dance to:  Speedy West &
Jimmy Bryant's Stratosphere Boogie (sends her into a wiggling froth), Mr.
Bach meets Batman played on the EXPLORER III organ, any Sonny Terry &
Brownie McGhee.  Kid knows her shit.

Anyone loving this thread and lapping up the pix can go here to see her in
the pink:

http:www.lobue-art.com/Mirahome.html

Trying to keep a Wiggles-free household (Aussie equiv to Barney).

Keith

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re: Here's Br. Cleve's "list"
Date: 29 Feb 2000 23:06:53 EST



In a message dated 2/28/0 2:03:51 PM, you wrote:

<<After being swamped with requests for this information, I'll post all
that I have on the subject it to the list.>>

Thanks for the repost.  Now all I need is a lot of cash.........Bob


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