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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Free Martinis
Date: 01 Jul 1999 02:39:09 EDT


I was hired to spin my records at a semi-private party
it is by invite only but I am allowed to invite ALL of my friends
I told them that that could be 100 people and they said "great"

The hosts told me I "should" invite any friends that are in the
design/computer fields which means anything from production artists to
programmers, designers to tech support

It is a Martini party
beer and wine will also be served and some snacks

It is Friday, July 9th from 7 - 11 pm
in the South Park area of San Francisco

If you would like to go to this event please RSVP via email for the details

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Free Martinis
Date: 01 Jul 1999 02:39:18 EDT


I was hired to spin my records at a semi-private party
it is by invite only but I am allowed to invite ALL of my friends
I told them that that could be 100 people and they said "great"

The hosts told me I "should" invite any friends that are in the
design/computer fields which means anything from production artists to
programmers, designers to tech support

It is a Martini party
beer and wine will also be served and some snacks

It is Friday, July 9th from 7 - 11 pm
in the South Park area of San Francisco

If you would like to go to this event please RSVP via email for the details

[e-mail]

I am also djing this thursday, July 1 and next Thursday, July 8 at the Lilo
Lounge Tiki bar
from 9 - 1:30
at 18th and Connecticut on Potrero Hill
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soooo glad to be back...
Date: 01 Jul 1999 07:59:49 +0100


Hello,

Nat wrote...
> If you really get into this,
> I have a record "The Call of the Wild Loon"
Jill wrote...
> But is is very tight in the upper body so
> I can't raise my arms above my
> head. It SHOULD fit that way. More flattering.
Tiki Bob wrote...
> Yes, but the rest of us could use some JPEGs.
> I got MY contacts on ! ! ! !

Ahhh, it's so nice to be back...

Hugh.


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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) sophisticated savage twins
Date: 01 Jul 1999 04:44:33 -0700 (PDT)


Thanks for clearing that up ;). For a moment I was
white with dread: usually the appearance of the double
= madness, death, unexplainable credit card bills.



> No, you "twin sons of different mothers" simply have
> nearly identical
> e-mail addresses:

> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]

> Ah, the ocean-spanning difference a little "_"
makes.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Soooo glad to be back...
Date: 01 Jul 1999 07:56:24 EDT


In a message dated 6/30/99 11:58:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Hello,

 Nat wrote...
 > If you really get into this,
 > I have a record "The Call of the Wild Loon"
 Jill wrote...
 > But is is very tight in the upper body so
 > I can't raise my arms above my
 > head. It SHOULD fit that way. More flattering.
 Tiki Bob wrote...
 > Yes, but the rest of us could use some JPEGs.
 > I got MY contacts on ! ! ! !  >>

BTW, Tiki Bob is often classified as a "Wild Loon" after a few drinks (which
is quite often).

Oh, and I got the Casino Royale soundtrack about 3 weeks ago and after
listening to "The Cowboy and Indian Fight at Casino Royale" about a half
dozen times I can get the damn song out of my head!  I wake up in the middle
of the night "hearing" that song!  Serves me right.

Tiki Bob


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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Recent arrivals in Herne Hill
Date: 01 Jul 1999 13:17:23 +0100


Some bizaare records have been arriving at my door recently (in fact I'm
thinking of having a new letterbox (mailbox) cut in my door thats big
enough for lp boxes to fit through. Recently:
Cool Hand Luke - Nice soundtrack from Lalo Schifrin with a mixture of
Lalo-isms a la Bullitt and some plain jane soundtrack fayre. Pretty good
without being sensational
Music for Sensuous Lovers by Z - I was determined to get more of Mort
Garson's stupid records after hearing Electric Hair Pieces so here's
another one. Two sides of stupid noodling with occasional breathy bits and
filtered down moogy noises. Wierd (who bought this kind of crap when it
came out?) but I like it.
Black Mass - Lucifer - Ditto. More scary moogy noises and lots of high
speed pieces. Cool but equally stupid.
Quincy Jones - Big Band Bossa Nova - A nice proper LP this, with good
tracks and the standout title tune (which I love). I've been after this for
a while and am very pleased to finally have it.
Richard Hayman - Genuine Electric Latin Love Machine - Moog madness on this
one. Windmills of your Mind is excellent, the rest is far out and very very
over the top. I am very impressed. Age of Electronicus, Moog (Eclectic
Electrics of DH), Copper Plated Integrated Cicuit, Genuine Electric Latin
Love Machine - Are there any more Command Moog records I should be looking
out for?
Okko - Blues and Electronics - Moogs and various grooves underneath them.
Nothing special on this one IMO.
Jon Murtaugh - Blues Current - More Moogs over jazzy grooves with a very
serious and sensible attitude, not what's needed on a Moog lp. Mr Mutaugh
should have taken a course in chemical over-indulgence to combat his
over-intellectual jazz condition.
The Nucleus - Galt MacDermot - Interesting slow breaktbeat jazz lp that
claims its a soundtrack to some film. Very cool, if a little repetitive
with all 10 tracks being worth a listen. And if you've read this far, can
anybody recommend Galt MacDermot's Hair Pieces, Ghetto Suite, Isabel's a
Jezabel, Salome Bey (Dude), Mystic, Mass in our Time, O Babylon, La Novela,
Hair Cuts, Homestead Upright or The Karl Marx Play.

Thanks all

Charlie





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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Command Moog LPs
Date: 01 Jul 1999 05:28:16 -0700 (PDT)


Spaced Out, of course - and my favorite: Permissive
Polyphonics. Absotively groovy version of one of the
smarmiest hippie tunes ever: Scarborough Fair.

Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Vetch,

BW
BtW: John Keating's Sounds Galactic (London, Phase 4)
just arrived at the trailer: lots of fun sappy pop
with moog.

--- Charles Moseley
<[e-mail]>
wrote:

> Love Machine - Are there any more Command Moog
records I should be looking

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From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Command Moog LPs
Date: 01 Jul 1999 08:36:23 -0400







Spaced Out, of course - and my favorite: Permissive
Polyphonics. Absotively groovy version of one of the
smarmiest hippie tunes ever: Scarborough Fair.
Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Vetch,
BW
BtW: John Keating's Sounds Galactic (London, Phase 4)
just arrived at the trailer: lots of fun sappy pop
with moog.

--- Charles Moseley<[e-mail]>
wrote:> Love Machine - Are there any more Command Moog
records I should be looking

>>>Both Dick Hyman's ELECTRIC ECLECTICS and THE AGE OF ELECTRONICUS are on
Command as well...See, I wrote a post without any lewd references in it...
WAIT, I said "Dick Hyman"!
Jane Fondle, already a bad girl at 8:35 am, EST...

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) lucifer unplugged
Date: 01 Jul 1999 08:51:36 -0400


Thanks to everyone that recommended the Haack LP.  I went back to the store
and it was not where it was originally, but the store fellow doesn't recall
selling it, so I think it's a case of being put back in the wrong place by
some malcontent.  I did meet a Latino fellow with horn-rimmed glasses and I
said that they had a nice easy-listening section here.  He said, "My music
is NOT EASY!" and stormed out.

Just kidding.

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From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Command Moog LPs
Date: 01 Sep 1999 14:41:34 +0100


Charles Moseley enquired:

> Are there any more Command Moog records I should be
> looking out for?

I think Richard Hayman's "Cinemagic Sounds" has a bit of Moog but it's
almost imperceptible and certainly nothing like the monster that is
GELLM.

Interestingly, although all of those LPs were on Command, I don't
believe any were actually produced by Enoch Light (he'd moved on to
Project 3 by then).

The only Moog LPs which he did produce were "Permissive Polyphonics" and
"Spaced Out" on Project 3, though "Brass Menagerie 1973" (also on
Project 3) rather inexplicably has Dick Hyman's "Explorations for Moog"
as the last track!


Robbie

Spaced Out - the Enoch Light Website
http://www.rcb.easynet.co.uk/light/


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 09:46:51 EDT


i know theres a few of ya in the group who are hardcore lp collectors, so let
me run somethin by ya..

i always have my eyes open for exotica stuff, and i found a 10in Yma Sumac
'Voice of Xtabay' at a tiny record shop the other day, but the guy wants 30
bucks for it...is this resonable?, or should i just kick this guy in the nuts
and run out of the store with it, like its a pack of cigarettes and im in the
7th grade?

-Thaddeus

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Brian O'Hara,Allan Carr
Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:14:02 -0500


                           *Brian O'Hara
    LIVERPOOL, England (AP) -- Brian O'Hara, former singer and guitarist with
the Fourmost, a 1960s Liverpool group that shared a manager with the Beatles
and had hits with songs written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney, was found
hanging at his home on Sunday. He was 58.
    Liverpool police found O'Hara in the Wavertree area of the northern English
port city. An inquest will convene Thursday.
    Formed in 1962, the Fourmost was managed by Brian Epstein, who also managed
the Beatles. The group had half a dozen hit singles from 1963-65, including
``Hello Little Girl'' and ``I'm In Love'' by Lennon and McCartney.

    BEVERLY HILLS, Calif., June 30 (UPI) -- Allan Carr, the flamboyant producer
best known for the 1978 movie ``Grease'' and the 1984 Broadway musical ``La
Cage aux Folles,'' is dead of cancer.
    Carr was 62 when he died Tuesday at his home in Beverly Hills, Calif.
    Raised in Highland Park, Ill., Carr attended Lake Forest College and
Northwestern University.
    He broke into show business while still in his teens, when his parents
financed his small investment in the Broadway production of ``Auntie Mame.''
    After college, Carr helped create a television show for Playboy
Enterprises. He also founded the Civic Theatre in Chicago, presenting such
stars as Bette Davis and Eva La Gallienne in regional theater productions.
    He was an assistant to director Nicholas Ray on the 1961 movie ``King of
Kings,'' but soon moved into management, representing such international
stars as Peter Sellers, Ann-Margret, Tony Curtis and Melina Mercouri.
    Carr is credited with discovering actresses Marlo Thomas and Michelle
Pfeiffer.
    He produced ``The First Time,'' starring Jacqueline Bisset, and ``C. C. and
Company,'' starring Ann-Margret.
    He worked with producer Robert Stigwood as a creative marketing consultant
for the movie adaptation of the rock opera ``Tommy.'' The collaboration
eventually led to ``Grease,'' which established Carr as one of Hollywood's
leading producers.
    In 1984, he won a Tony award for his Broadway production of ``La Cage aux
Folles.
    Carr was well known in Hollywood for his lavish parties and was often
photographed lounging about in a colorful caftan, looking like a potentate.
    Carr had undergone a kidney transplant in December, shortly after his third
hip replacement surgery. A publicist for Carr says he was diagnosed with
cancer about one month ago.
    Carr left no survivors and requested that there be no funeral service.
See also: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-a-carr.html





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Command Moog LPs
Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:28:13 EDT



<<Are there any more Command Moog records I should be looking out for? >>

don't forget Walter Sear "Copper Integrated Circuit" (something like
that)...plugged in POP!

you might also go for THE HELLERS "Singers...Talkers...Players...Swingers...&
Doers" (Command RS 934 SD).  not a moog record, but some wild electronic
effects and a very creative effort.  very hard to find which may explain why
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 07:41:36 -0700 (PDT)


I strongly urge the 2nd scenario, and a detailed
follow-up report (it may be more convenient to pack
heat). As for the conventional transaction, it's one
of the list "staples", Baxter produced, etc. My own
Yma tolerance is not so great that I would drop $30
(for $5 and postage, I'll sell it to you on a series
of I think 3 45s. No jackets, alas). But as industry
professionals might add, there is no accounting for
taste. And, I found this 10" along with one of The
Legend of the Sun Virgin (If anyone would like this in
a boxed set of 3 78rpm records, lemme know)at a yard
sale, so I'm kind of jaded.


--- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> i know theres a few of ya in the group who are
> hardcore lp collectors, so let
> me run somethin by ya..

> i always have my eyes open for exotica stuff, and i
> found a 10in Yma Sumac
> 'Voice of Xtabay' at a tiny record shop the other
> day, but the guy wants 30
> bucks for it...is this resonable?, or should i just
> kick this guy in the nuts
> and run out of the store with it, like its a pack of
> cigarettes and im in the
> 7th grade?

> -Thaddeus

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Command Moog LPs
Date: 01 Jul 1999 06:00:36 -0700 (PDT)


What's so bad about that? Please explain. Or send
literature.

--- [e-mail] wrote:

> >>>Both Dick Hyman's ELECTRIC ECLECTICS and THE AGE
> OF ELECTRONICUS are on
 Command as well...See, I wrote a post without any
lewd references in it...
 WAIT, I said "Dick Hyman"!
> Jane Fondle, already a bad girl at 8:35 am, EST...

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:40:53 -0400





i always have my eyes open for exotica stuff, and i found a 10in Yma Sumac
'Voice of Xtabay' at a tiny record shop the other day, but the guy wants 30
bucks for it...is this resonable?, or should i just kick this guy in the
nuts
and run out of the store with it, like its a pack of cigarettes and im in
the
7th grade?

-Thaddeus

>>This rekkid guy is obviously from the "I can sell it for big$ because
it's in INCREDIBLY STRANGE MUSIC" school of pricing.  Nawww..I mean, it's
genious exotica, yes, but I have never paid more than $10 for Yma Sumac.
That one MIGHT be on CD, because THE RIGHT STUFF reissued other Ymas...Skip
it, but perhaps be kinder to the family jewels, lest you might ruin a
bargain in the future.
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Mark Ryden fans with deepish pockets
Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:52:10 -0500


Y'all might recognize Ryden as the cover artist on:
Les Baxter: Exotic Moods of Les Baxter
Jackie Gleason: Romantic Moods of Jackie Gleason
Martin Denny: Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny

I've just discovered several of his prints for sale at http://www.budplant.com .
Scroll down to the Search slot and enter "Mark Ryden". At the next screen,
click on that book/? icon to see the print itself.

The 2 (of 4) prints of interest here are:

EXOTICA PRINT
Signed & numbered, 200. By Mark Ryden. A beautiful exotic woman waits at the
edge of a bridge to an ominous native hut. Ryden has created a
Tiki/Hawaiian-like lush landscape with pagan totems and all sorts of detail
that is not captured in the partial image we show here. Sensual colors.
Horizontal format, image area 22`x13.`
24x35, FC
(This one is the Exotic Sounds of MD cover - Lou)


PELE PRINT
Signed & numbered, 200. By Mark Ryden. Pele, the Hawaiian goddess of fire,
rises from a flaming volcano, breathing fire from tiki torches in a voodoo
scene. Loads of cool detail on the tikis, not shown in our partial image
here. Image area 22`x12`. Horizontal format.
23x35, FC


-Lou
(not associated w/ Bud, but wishes he had the Bux)

PS. for more on Ryden, see:
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=10:36:32|AM&p=amg&sql=B223512
http://www.markryden.com/





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Subject: (exotica) Changing le Topic
Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:27:30 -0400






cc:   [e-mail]




What's so bad about that? Please explain. Or send
literature.

--- [e-mail] wrote:

>>>We'll send you to OB/GYN school..

Now, for something completely different..I am curious about something
PG-rated at this point!
We all know there is a bounty of great soundtracks from the 5ts and
6ts...whaddabout the 7ts?  I'd like to know what to keep my eyes out for,
other than blacksploitation, Italian, etc.  One great starter, speaking of
"taxis", is TAXI DRIVER-BERNARD HERMANN...KLUTE has also happily been
reissued...What are some other classic OSTs from the 7ts?  Somewill will
surely say PETEY WHEATSTRAW, DEVILS SON IN LAW...;)
Jane Fondle


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Santo, actually.
Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:43:09 -0400


Monsieur Trebonius:
i have a question for the group..

do any of you exotica-heads know where i might be able to find old El Sonto=
=20
movies? ive looked around a bit and i cant seem to find anything...El Sonto=
=20
was that mexican masked wreslter who had movies like el sonto vs the=20
warewolf, where the monsters would try to de-mask him ect..i dont really=
 know=20
alot about the movies..or if any of you guys know anything else about the=
 old=20
school mexican lucha libre wreslting from the 60s, im lookin for posters and=
=20
such...

To which I reply:

I believe the fellow you are looking for is Santo, not El Sonto.  His real
name was Roberto Guzm=E1n Huerta.  Here is a good page about him, with=
 posters:
http://www.wam.umd.edu/~dwilt/santo.html and Santo contra los cazadores de
cabezas can be bought from http://www.reel.com for nine dollars.

Ebay has Mil Mascaras items.  Here is one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D125198905

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Command Moog LPs
Date: 01 Jul 1999 08:45:26 -0700


it probably rarely gets mentioned because that record is really hard to
come by
- i've been looking for a copy for a few years, ever since I heard it the
first
time. whenever i see it, it's priced out of my comfort zone.

clark

At 10:28 AM 7/1/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>
>you might also go for THE HELLERS
"Singers...Talkers...Players...Swingers...&=20
>Doers" (Command RS 934 SD).=A0 not a moog record, but some wild electronic=
=20
>effects and a very creative effort.=A0 very hard to find which may explain=
 why=20
>it rarely gets mentioned.=A0=20



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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:54:39 -0400



a 10in Yma Sumac
'Voice of Xtabay' at a tiny record shop the other day, but the guy wants 30
bucks for it

i passed this up for $1 in favor of a 12inch of the same thing.  I see no
real value in 10inch LPs, from a listening perspective.  Maybe I would spend
$30 for the 78rpm album set, but not for a 10inch.

Charlieman (who payed $1 for Legend of the Sun Virgin)

Check out Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation at
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From: Mark Renwick <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Orlando, Florida Vinyl Stores
Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:56:28 -0400


I'm going to be in the Orlando vicinity this weekend.  Are
there any favorite vinyl stores in the vicinity?  Please
answer privately.  Thanks!

--Mark Renwick
  Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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Subject: (exotica) Changing le Topic
Date: 01 Jul 1999 09:02:39 -0700 (PDT)



--- [e-mail] wrote:
>
> We all know there is a bounty of great soundtracks from the 5ts and
> 6ts...whaddabout the 7ts?  I'd like to know what to keep my eyes out for,

Jane

I've really been enjoying Last Tango In Paris alot recently.   The bonus tracks are
wonderful on the cd.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Command shock!
Date: 01 Jul 1999 17:18:56 +0100


Imagine my shock etc etc......

Hellers: Singers,Talkers Players... (Command) M-/M- gfld,osw,co $175

Is this normal?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 12:32:34 -0400


At 09:46 AM 7/1/99 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>i always have my eyes open for exotica stuff, and i found a 10in Yma Sumac
>'Voice of Xtabay' at a tiny record shop the other day, but the guy wants 30
>bucks for it...is this resonable?

You can't use the word "reasonable", spelled correctly or not, when it
comes to records like this.  If you refuse to pay 30 bucks for any record,
on principle, then don't buy it.  But if you want a classic "collectable"
record that you may not see again in any kind of shape - without paying a
similar amount - then buy it and be glad you have it.  Only if it's in good
shape though.
There's virtually no record that you might not find someday in a thrift
store or in a record store where the guy doesn't really know what he has.
Having said that, you're not going to find EVERY record you want like that.
Of course, if you do buy this, you probably will find a copy of it for a
buck within a week or so.  But you have to learn to laugh that off as what
we like to call "vinyl irony".

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Date: 01 Jul 1999 12:32:29 -0400


At 08:36 AM 7/1/99 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:
.See, I wrote a post without any lewd references in it...
>WAIT, I said "Dick Hyman"!

And if we weren't talking about moog, I'm sure you would have mentioned
that Command two-fer
"Dick Hyman's Organ Antics".

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Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:06:35 -0700 (PDT)



Wellllllllllll, there's Shaft, and if you like it you
can go back fer 2nds with Shaft in   Africa.  Then um
Three the Hard Way.

"She started it,"

BW

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> > 6ts...whaddabout the 7ts?  I'd like to know what
> to keep my eyes out for,

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Changing le Topic
Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:08:28 -0700 (PDT)


Sorry got this after the one I replied to with the "no
blaxploitation request" not included. What about the
first couple of Dirty Harry films. I'm also curious
about The Omega Man
(70 or 71, I think)- starred Charles Intestine, but
not sure on ST/composer.

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:27:06 -0700 (PDT)


Speaking of $1 finds as thrift shops. I hit Slavation
Army after lunch for the first time in months:

Horace Silver Quintet Sextet: The Judy Grind
Martin Denny: The Enchanted Sea
Dick Hymen: Eclectric Eclectics
Dick Hyman: Age of Electronicus
Eartha Kitt (w/ Henri Renee): Thursday's Child
Dark Shadows ST (CR Greane?) - with poster (neat-o).

Some of these are du/triplicates... might have to
motivate myself to set up on eBay.

BW (who payed .50 for Legend of the Sun
Virgin together with 10" Xtabay)

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From: Fish Wich <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 10:25:14 -0700 (PDT)


Check Ebay before you drop $30 for that album.  There
are usually copies being sold there for a wide range
of prices and in various conditions.

Regards,

Mark


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> 'Voice of Xtabay' at a tiny record shop the other
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Jane

I've really been enjoying Last Tango In Paris alot recently.   The bonus
tracks are
wonderful on the cd.

>>>Have it, but on vinyl...NEXT?






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Date: 01 Jul 1999 13:47:47 -0400








Speaking of $1 finds as thrift shops. I hit Slavation
Army after lunch for the first time in months:

>>Horace Silver Quintet Sextet: The Judy Grind

THAT'S THE JODY GRIND, and I WANT IT!!!!


>>Dark Shadows ST (CR Greane?) - with poster (neat-o).

Some of these are du/triplicates... might have to
motivate myself to set up on eBay.
BW (who payed .50 for Legend of the Sun
Virgin together with 10" Xtabay)

Do it, or take me to lunch sometime!  DANG!  Boston thrifting SUCKS!
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Subject: (exotica) Benny Golson - "Tune In, Turn On"
Date: 01 Jul 1999 12:04:40 -0500


I agree this is a great little CD - I love The Disadvantages of You
which was, of course, used by Benson & Hedges for their 60's commercial
- Phil Bodner's Brass Ring did the original, I believe....

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From: [e-mail] (Eric Marvin)
Subject: (exotica) Soundtracks
Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:36:46 -0700


     Jane wrote:

     <Now, for something completely different..I am curious about something
     PG-rated at this point!
     We all know there is a bounty of great soundtracks from the 5ts and
     6ts...whaddabout the 7ts?  I'd like to know what to keep my eyes out
     for,
     other than blacksploitation, Italian, etc.  One great starter,
     speaking of
     "taxis", is TAXI DRIVER-BERNARD HERMANN...KLUTE has also happily been
     reissued...What are some other classic OSTs from the 7ts?  Somewill
     will
     surely say PETEY WHEATSTRAW, DEVILS SON IN LAW...;)
     Jane Fondle>


     Tell me more!! How is Taxi Driver?  What about Klute?  I am anxious to
     hear reviews of any 60s/70s soundtracks.  My small collection (CDs
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Subject: (exotica) Chaino/Real World mystery solved
Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:35:52 -0700


Just found out that the exotica track on last week's Real World wasn't
Combustible Edison, but was instead "Bad & Beautiful" from the Chaino Africana &
Beyond CD!

(annoying to me for not recognizing it, since I own the CD, although I just got
it, so hey, cut me some slack...)

I think its cool they're using this CD, although they missed a golden
opportunity to use Don Tiki's "An Occasional Man" which includes lyrics implying
naked swimming... Oh well.

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Date: 01 Jul 1999 14:44:04 -0400





>Just found out that the exotica track on last week's Real World wasn't
      Combustible Edison, but was instead "Bad & Beautiful" from the Chaino
      Africana &
      Beyond CD!

 What I want to know(Lee Joseph, anybody?) is if the "Real Chaino" has yet
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Chaino/Real World mystery solved
Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:49:42 -0700 (PDT)


I love the Don Tiki disc ... but to get those
perversions smoldering, it's Julie London's version,
baby....



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> they missed a golden
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Mark Ryden fans with deepish pockets
Date: 01 Jul 1999 08:59:49 -1000


Y'all might recognize Mark's remarkable art on the cover of The
Forbidden Sounds of Don Tiki as well. He has a deep abiding love of all
things tiki, and agreed to do our cover for special labor-of-love rate!
You can also see his amazing art at www.mendenhallgallery.com who
represents him in Pasadena, CA. To share a few words from his catalog:
"Well, I have to admit I don't really paint my paintings; a magic monkey
does. He comes to my studio late at night, when it's very quiet.
Mysterious things happen late at night when most people are asleep. I
help the magic monkey, but he does most of the work. My big job is to
get him to show up..... things have to flow from a place that is more
subconscious and uninhibited... I believe to get ideas you have to
nourish the spirit. I stuff myself full of the things I like: pictures
of bugs, paintings by Bougurreau and David, books by PT Barnum, films by
Ray Harryhausen, old photos of strange people, children's books about
space and science, medical illustrations, music by Sinatra and Debussy,
magazines, TV, Jung and Freud, Ren and Stimpy, Joseph Campbell and
Nostradamus, Ken and Barbie, alchemy, freemasonary, Buddhism. At night
my head is so full of ideas I can't sleep. I mix it all together and
create my doctrine of life and the universe.... to me, the world is full
of awe and wonder. This is what I put in my paintings."  And he mixes it
up in the most incredible ways! Other recurring themes are bees,
Christina Ricci, Abe Lincoln, meat. If nothing else, buy the catalog of
"The Meat Show." He also did a group show in 1996 at La Luz de Jesus
Gallery, L.A. called "21st Century Tiki."

alohadercci,
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> Y'all might recognize Ryden as the cover artist on:
> Les Baxter: Exotic Moods of Les Baxter
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Subject: (exotica) Changing le Topic
Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:48:20 -0700 (PDT)





--- [e-mail] wrote:
> >>>Have it, but on vinyl...NEXT?

"Suspita" by Goblin or the Goblin Collections 1 & 2.   Suspira is an inspiration and
what an amazingly wild collection of songs.  It been discussed on this list alot but
I'm sure Astroslut woukld appreciate the influence.  The Goblin collections have their
wild moments on them also.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Subject: SV: (exotica) Mark Ryden fans with deepish pockets
Date: 01 Jul 1999 22:00:42 +0200


Ryden has a website of his own here:
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Date: 01 Jul 1999 15:50:22 EDT


In a message dated 07/01/99 10:35:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< And, I found this 10" along with one of The
 Legend of the Sun Virgin (If anyone would like this in
 a boxed set of 3 78rpm records, lemme know)at a yard
 sale, so I'm kind of jaded.  >>

The Voice of Xtabay 78 "album" has six 78's in it.  I have it and like it.
Paid about 9 bucks plus shipping off of ebay.

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Subject: SV: (exotica) Soundtracks
Date: 01 Jul 1999 22:25:21 +0200



>     Tell me more!! How is Taxi Driver?  What about Klute?  I am =
anxious to=20
>     hear reviews of any 60s/70s soundtracks.  My small collection (CDs =

>     mostly) has some room to grow and this list has not let me down =
yet. =20


Taxi Driver. I bought the LP mostly for the spoken word pieces by De =
Niro. You know that: some day a big rain will come blah blah. I think =
side 2 is great and side 1 is also good.  Normally I find those slow =
saxophone solos rather kitschy, because they are always used as =
background music nowadays when a rainy city is filmed. Well it worked in =
Taxi Driver, maybe that movie was the trendsetter. Absolutely worth =
having, especially if you enjoy the movie but not much exotic or lounge.

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Subject: (exotica) Omega Man
Date: 01 Jul 1999 16:18:50 EDT


Sadly, unless my information is incorrect, the soundtrack to Omega Man was
not released on LP!

BTW, I know two of us have asked Rhino Handmade to release "Beneath The
Planet Of The Apes" -- anyone else made any requests?  The more we make the
better the chances of an actual release.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Jill's Dress a-go-go
Date: 01 Jul 1999 23:04:37 +0200


chuck wrote:

> Okay Mo you got me! For 1 dollar,  Who is Twinky Winky???!

It's the purple guy with the red handbag. Ha ha! Whoopee, I made a dollar with the
Teletubbies!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Command Moog LPs
Date: 01 Jul 1999 17:39:18 -0400




And if we weren't talking about moog, I'm sure you would have mentioned
that Command two-fer
"Dick Hyman's Organ Antics".

Or, the '"The Man from O.R.G.A.N.'".

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Mark Ryden fans with deepish pockets
Date: 01 Jul 1999 23:29:28 +0200


The Moritz R Museum features a Mark Ryden wing with the part of his work
I like best, i.e. the explicit Tiki works. Nothing that you couldn't
find in his own homepage though....
http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt /masterpieces.html

For a Californian artist Mark's paintings look kind of "English" to me,
they look like Alice from Wonderland has travelled America. Contrary to
most Californian artists, especially those who are prominent in
JuxtaPoz, he's not so much into cruel, violent, "negative" things, which
I sometimes see too much in that corner of the art world. If not handled
by a master like Robert Williams such paintings can just be very bad and
boring. Not so Mark Ryden: even if some of his motives are absurd, there
is always a certain loveliness in them, that will - and I'm sure about
this - have a big coming out in the next century. Same thing goes for
Shag, btw. Mark doesn't have such a dominant graphic style like Shag
has, which is very decorative of course, but sometimes the figures in
Shag's pictures are a bit cramped in their individuality by the formal
structures. Just a remark, that doesn't detract from my general
appreciation for his work. Both artist have an incredible hand for the
use of colours.

Just my 2 cents about two of the leading Exotica artists today.

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Subject: (exotica) 70s soundtracks.
Date: 01 Jul 1999 18:02:33 -0400


>Tell me more!! How is Taxi Driver? What about Klute? I am anxious to
>hear reviews of any 60s/70s soundtracks. My small collection (CDs
>mostly) has some room to grow and this list has not let me down yet.

Taxi Driver was one of the last (It's Alive 2 I think was the last)
soundtracks that Herrmann worked on.  His stuff I like, but the other part
of it is taken up by Tom Scott.  I have a "thing" about Scott.  When they
needed Jazz on the soundtrack, it seemed that he and Dave Grusin were the
only people they called (Quincy Jones consciously stopped making soundtrack
albums).  So I have a built-in dislike of his stuff.  i am willing to hear
the soundtrack again, but...

My recommendations:

The Tin Drum - Maurice Jarre' - What a soundtrack this is!  Beatiful
orchestral work and very evocative of the odd tone of the movie. I have it
on Celine Records, but it seems to have been reissued, as well it should be.

Midnight Cowboy - While I don't need to hear "Everybody's Talkin'" any more
(Mom, stop playing it!!!) it does feature John Barry's wonderfully odd
"Florida Fantasy" and also "Jungle Gym At the Zoo" by Elephant's Memory.

Live and Let Die - Yeah, but this is a McCartney song that I like!  Also,
it features some great music by George Martin.

Super Fly - (Hello, Jane!) - I saw this when it came out, flipped my
brother off and that was the end of R-rated movies for me for a while.
Unexpected treat is "Junkie Chase", great action music.  Curtis Mayfield
songs, yes, yes.  The first soundtrack album ever bought for me.  That guy
that I flipped off bought it for me!

Enter the Dragon - LaloLaloLalo! (say it in fron of a 3 year old, they'll
love it!) Schifrin and Karate sound effects, Yahoo!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Benny Golson - "Tune In, Turn On"
Date: 01 Jul 1999 17:40:44 -0400


>I agree this is a great little CD - I love The Disadvantages of You
>which was, of course, used by Benson & Hedges for their 60's commercial
>- Phil Bodner's Brass Ring did the original, I believe....

If you see that Brass Ring LP, I would avoid it, though.  It didn't do
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Subject: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 01 Jul 1999 16:30:21 -0400






Ok, you bunch o'bad asses(said in a luving manner!)...
I don't care what record you got today...I don't even
care if it's mint..cuz...I....got..a SEALED copy of
THE HUDSON BROTHERS-HOLLYWOOD SITUATION..for a dollar!
Thankyou, Goodnight! Jane Fondle, drowning in chest
hair!

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Subject: (exotica) amon tobin
Date: 01 Jul 1999 17:24:49 -0700


I just picked up Amon Tobin's "Permutations" CD and am loving his goofy
sampladelic rendition of "Temptation," which he calls "Nightlife" (track
5).  It's very light and humerous, with subtle washes of drum&bass
tossed in, and too fast in tempo.  I hope the DJs on this list have been
giving this play.

The majority of the rest of the disc is a bit more abstract and/or dark
in tone, but this song always makes me smile and laugh.  I wish I knew
the original source recordings he sampled.

Note to Jill Mingo-go:  you mentioned something about Sluts 'n Strings &
909.  Are/were you a member of this outfit?  I recently picked up a 12"
with a remix by said SnS&909.

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Date: 01 Jul 1999 11:48:20 -0700 (PDT)





--- [e-mail] wrote:
> >>>Have it, but on vinyl...NEXT?

"Suspita" by Goblin or the Goblin Collections 1 & 2.   Suspira is an inspiration and
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Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Subject: (exotica) Omega Man
Date: 01 Jul 1999 16:18:50 EDT


Sadly, unless my information is incorrect, the soundtrack to Omega Man was
not released on LP!

BTW, I know two of us have asked Rhino Handmade to release "Beneath The
Planet Of The Apes" -- anyone else made any requests?  The more we make the
better the chances of an actual release.

Best,
Larry


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 15:48:14 EDT


In a message dated 07/01/99 10:01:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i always have my eyes open for exotica stuff, and i found a 10in Yma Sumac
 'Voice of Xtabay' at a tiny record shop the other day, but the guy wants 30
 bucks for it...is this resonable?, or should i just kick this guy in the
nuts
 and run out of the store with it, like its a pack of cigarettes and im in
the
 7th grade? >>

is it a 10 inch lp or 78?  i have some of her 78's and they are all gotten
(some off ebay) pretty cheaply.

oh, go ahead and kick the bastard.  i need a good laugh.

tiki bob


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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Yma Sumac Lp help
Date: 01 Jul 1999 13:29:34 -0700 (PDT)


The one I paid a bit more for is Miracles. Great
record. I use it to freak out the dog. The SV 78s I
could not in good conscience unload. I cracked one
while cleaning it. dammit.

--- [e-mail] wrote:

> << And, I found this 10" along with one of The
>  Legend of the Sun Virgin (If anyone would like this
> in
>  a boxed set of 3 78rpm records, lemme know)

> The Voice of Xtabay 78 "album" has six 78's in it.
> I have it and like it.
> Paid about 9 bucks plus shipping off of ebay.

> tiki bob


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Subject: (exotica) OLD mix-tape playlist
Date: 30 Jun 1999 17:03:33 -0700


A few years back, my record collection was none-too impressive judging =
strictly from the condition of the dusty, groove-worn treasures I had =
been amassing. Unable and unwilling to pay for clean vinyl, I almost =
NEVER went into record stores. So when I got asked to participate in a =
tape-exchange, I relied heavily on my Ultra-lounge CD's, because most of =
my vinyl was to beat for me to want to inflict upon others. The record =
collection is little-bit better these days.

I've been exchanging MD's with Johan, and sent him the disks that I used =
to master the tapes from so he could load 'em up with Fantastica's for =
me. He has been badgering me to send him the playlist for these, because =
I had included SOME vinyl among the usual UL stuff, and he wanted to =
know what these cuts were. I thought it might interest SOMEBODY to see =
what I was goofing around with 3 years ago, so I decided to post it to =
the list.=20

HiFiJinks - Adventures in Living Stereo

the left channel

Henry Mancini - Something for Cat
Buddy Merrill - Busy Bee
Esquivel - Flower Girl from Bordeaux
Perspectives in Percussion (album title, no artist listed) - Perfidia
Pagan Love Song - Ray Martin
Dean Elliott - Lonesome Road
Francis Bay - Brazil
Martin Denny - Miserlou
Perez Prado - Maria Bonita
Three Suns - I've got the world on a string (medley)
Alvino Rey - Night Train
Guitars Unlimited - Crazy Rhythm
Robert Maxwell - Sing Sing sing
Terry Snyder - Binga Banga Bongo
Sir Julian - Caravan
Playboy's Theme - Cy Coleman
Topsy - Joe Bucci Trio

the right channel

Johnny Poi and his Surfboarders - Kila Kila Haleakala
Billy Mure  - Hawaiian War Chant
Muzzy Marcelino - Heap big Chief
Fred Lowry - William Tell Overture
Perez Prado - Monitor Mambo
Esquivel - Whachamacallit
Tito Morano - Mambo #5
Jerry Murad's Harmonicats - Chiquita
Bobby Hammack Trio - Powerhouse
Leo Addeo - Stumbling
Sid Ramin - Syncopated Clock
Martin Denny - The Left Arm of Buddah
Les Baxter - Calcutta
Henri Rene - Hansel and Pretzel
Harry Bruer - Samba Macabre
Marjorie Meinert - Rags to Riches
Bob Thompson - Diga Diga Doo
Esquivel - El Cable
Jack Malmsten - Satan Takes a Holiday





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Subject: Re: (exotica) Benny Golson - "Tune In, Turn On"
Date: 02 Jul 1999 01:16:51 EDT


>I agree this is a great little CD - I love The Disadvantages of You
>which was, of course, used by Benson & Hedges for their 60's commercial
>- Phil Bodner's Brass Ring did the original, I believe....

<< If you see that Brass Ring LP, I would avoid it, though.  It didn't do
 anything for me. >>

On the other side of the coin are guys like me, who find this record to be
very enjoyable to listen to.  A cheap find and worth the price of admission
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Soundtracks
Date: 02 Jul 1999 01:27:26 EDT


<< I am anxious to=20
      hear reviews of any 60s/70s soundtracks.  My small collection (CDs=20
      mostly) has some room to grow and this list has not let me down yet. >=
>

I recently wrapped up a collection of soundtracks and have the playlist righ=
t=20
here.  All are from records, I'm not too sure which of these are on CD, if=20
any.  Midnight Cowboy I think...anyway, most of these are from the sixties. =20
I can fix ya up with a tape or additional comments if you are interested...

FRANZ WAXMAN  The Celebration
Crime In The Streets  (Decca DL8376)

KENYON HOPKINS  Lemonade
Baby Doll  (Columbia CL958)

GEORGE DUNING  I Wish I Could, Etc.
Bell, Book And Candle  (Colpix CP502)

NEAL HEFTI  Sex And The Single Girl
Sex And The Single Girl  (Warner Bros. WS1572)

ELMER BERNSTEIN  Baby The Rain Must Fall
Baby The Rain Must Fall  (Ava Records AS-53-ST)

QUINCY JONES  Lonely Bottles
In Cold Blood  (Colgems COS-107)

HENRY MANCINI  The Monkey Farm
Gunn=85Number One!  (RCA Victor LSP-3840)

JOHN BARRY  A Man Alone
The Ipcress File  (Decca DL79124)

HUGO MONTENEGRO  The Shark
Lady In Cement  (20th Century Fox S4204)

ARMANDO TROVAJOLI  Rocking Horse
Seven Golden Men  (United Artists UAS 5193)

JERRY GOLDSMITH  The Trip
Sebastian  (Dot DLP 25845)

CHRISTOPHER KOMEDA  The Coven / Main Title
Rosemary's Baby  (Dot DLP 25875)

LEONARD ROSENMAN
Opening Statement - Cornelius / March Of The Apes
Beneath The Planet Of The Apes  (Amos Records AAS8001)

RICHARD RODNEY BENNETT  Anya / Skidoo
Billion Dollar Brain  (United Artists UAS 5174)

GILLE MELLE  Wildfire
The Andromeda Strain  (Kapp KRS 5513)

PETE RUGOLO  Sock Me Choo Choo
The Sweet Ride  (20th Century Fox S4198)

STANLEY MYERS  Kinky Dolly
Kaleidoscope  (Warner Bros. WS 1663)

FRANK DeVOL  Groovy Delivery Boy
Guess Who's Coming To Dinner  (Colgems COS-108)

VIC MIZZY  Malibu
Don't Make Waves  (MGM SE-4483)

NEAL HEFTI  Open House
Synanon  (Liberty LST-7413)

MIKE CURB AND LAWRENCE BROWN  Bay City Boys
Maryjane  (Sidewalk DT 5911)

ENNIO MORRICONE  Twist Of The Spinsters
Malamondo  (Epic LN 24126)

NINO OLIVIERO  Zio Giuda
Mondo Cane No. 2  (20th Century Fox TFS 4147)

KEN THORNE  The Chase
The Touchables  (20th Century Fox S4206)

PIERO UMILIANI  Cow-boy
Sweden Heaven And Hell  (Ariel ARS 15000)

QUINCY JONES  She Hangs Out (Doin' The Dentist)
Cactus Flower  (Bell 1201)

JOHN BARRY  Midnight Cowboy / Florida Fantasy
Midnight Cowboy  (United Artists UAS 519


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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 02 Jul 1999 10:23:37 +0200


t..cuz...I....got..a SEALED copy of
>THE HUDSON BROTHERS-HOLLYWOOD SITUATION..for a dollar!
>Thankyou, Goodnight! Jane Fondle, drowning in chest
>hair!

Jane darling,
How's the Hollywood situation? the LP is unknown to me, as the Hudson =
Brothers also are.

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Mark Ryden fans with deepish pockets
Date: 02 Jul 1999 10:26:58 +0200


Mo wrote:
'>Just my 2 cents about two of the leading Exotica artists today.

I put some geld in for Moritz and make it a trio!

M



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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Soundtracks
Date: 02 Jul 1999 09:54:14 +0100


Talking of soundtracks, I just got the most comprehensive list of
soundtracks through the post that I've ever seen, with pages and pages of
CDs and LPs. So if anybody is looking for anything in particular.....
(There are over 60 seperate John Barry titles on CD alone!)

Charlie





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Jim's Ithaca Music Shop / Vol.6 No.5
Date: 02 Jul 1999 02:14:17 +0000


If you haven't taken advantage, here is an excerpt which you SHOULD
be interested in!

check out this
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JIM'S ITHACA MUSIC SHOP
http://www.jims.com
[e-mail]
Please note: This sale ends on Tuesday, July 6th at midnight (EST).
119. Combustible Edison   Four Rooms / Soundtrack.....CD.....Elektra
61861.....$5.00
Postage is only $3.50 for any size order within the U.S.
Postage is only $6.00 for any size order to Canada or Mexico.
All other countries should e-mail us for rates.
New York State residents must add 8% for sales tax.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Their $5 sale includes also a number of nice jazz CDs, rock CDs, etc.
Obviously, ordering just the one CD would turn a $5 CD into an $8.50
CD, but if you like some of the other CDs you might just find a more
acceptable price level.

Anyway, I LOVE my Four Rooms Soundtrack (although I can't say the
same about the movie).

I get no kickback from mentioning this, but I did want to let you know
about it before the CD is gone!

Byron



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) FW: Get Carter
Date: 02 Jul 1999 10:14:02 +0100


ooops,  sent this to Laszlo by mistake,  try again.
> The film is on general release over here again,  so I went to see it.
> Excellent of course,  great to see and the cinema I was in has a good
> sound system so it sounded great as well,  Interesting to see just how
> little of the 'pop' songs on the LP you could actually hear.  I'd
> forgotten that Britt Ekland was in it.
>
> Anyway the point being that before the film started they were playing
> modern remixes of the main theme.  Most of them I didn't really care
> for,  far too Chemical Brothers murk,  but there was a very nice drum
> and bass version,  where they used the bass line from the original
> track along with the more obvious chi-ching sound.  Does anyone have
> any idea who this is?  I assume its some sort of compilation of
> remixes.
>
> Thanking you.
>
> 'Now you're a big fella,  but you're a bit out of shape'
>
> El Maestro Con Queso
>
> [e-mail]
> [e-mail]
> http://www.sgillitt.dircon.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lee live in Sweden
Date: 02 Jul 1999 11:18:57 +0200


We just recieved a message from Lee's English promoter stating, that Lee
will play in Sweden on the 9th of July.

I'll confirm this later, after calling the guy.

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soundtracks
Date: 02 Jul 1999 11:01:28 +0100


In fact, the soundtrack dealer's email is
[e-mail]. Or call him 0044 1797 222752.

Why not email him for a list?


My brain's in gear now.

I just called him about The Burbs soundtrack (apparently there are only=

2,500 copies) which was recommended to me by someone on a soundtrack li=
st
but he wants =A3150 for it.  Fuck that!


Charlie

PS. A lack of response to yesterday's email gives me impression that no=
body
on the list has any Galt MacDermot LPs (other than Hair) but thats OK.
=





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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Soundtracks - Burbs
Date: 02 Jul 1999 11:32:48 +0100


"Magnus predicts: In a year Charles will get that record for under $10.
Mint" -

No no. 2500 copies were manufactured and sold to members of a soundtrack
collectors club only. Its a Varese Sarabande release and the music is
supposed to be very cool - a mixture of comedy and cartoon-style music -
highly inventive orchestral scoring. Anyway, its only of passing interest
to me and I'm not really that desperate to find it.
However, if anybody on the list has a copy and fancies doing a spot of
bootlegging......get that CDR out and start it up!

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 02 Jul 1999 04:55:40 -0700 (PDT)


Dude - they had a show in the 70s. They were like a
barbershop quartet with instruments. And real hairy.
It was a truly joyous time in TV history. The Captain
and Tenille had a show, too. As did Donny and Marie
(He was a little bit rock 'n' roll, she was a little
bit country. Such a full palette!). In those days,
there was a feeling that something special was in the
air. In fact, you can still see its trace in the darl
cankers it has left on urban buildings and statuary.

JF: enjoy!

--- Sandberg Magnus <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Jane darling,
> How's the Hollywood situation? the LP is unknown to
> me, as the Hudson Brothers also are.

> M

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Charles Moseley: (exotica) Soundtracks]
Date: 02 Jul 1999 12:58:52 +0100



> From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
>
> PS. A lack of response to yesterday's email gives me impression that
> nobody on the list has any Galt MacDermot LPs (other than Hair) but
> thats OK.
>

An LP I really love is "Ken Jones Plays The Music of Galt
MacDermot". This is a collection of pre-Hair stuff, dates from about
66 or so. It's all jazzy-poppy instrumentals, mostly upbeat,
beautifully arranged by KJ. Includes "African Waltz" which was a hit
(for Johnny Dankworth, if my brain is working straight).

I have the Canadian release (Galt is Canadian, right?), it's the only
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lee live in Stockholm
Date: 02 Jul 1999 14:43:00 +0200


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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 02 Jul 1999 09:32:58 -0400





Dearesteth Maggy and all other beloved list members...May I please
announce, for the record, that the Hudson Brothers record ABSOLUTELY ROCKS!
OH BABY!  There is a lot of moog and wah-wah guitar, great cock-rock vocals
a la' The Raspberries or Mott the Hoople, great glam sounds like Mott or T
Rex(around the Tanxx period), and some basic great fake-rock, now-sound,
white-polyester, LOVE, baby, love!


Ben Waugh wrote:


Dude - they had a show in the 70s. They were like a
barbershop quartet with instruments. And real hairy.
It was a truly joyous time in TV history. The Captain
and Tenille had a show, too. As did Donny and Marie
(He was a little bit rock 'n' roll, she was a little
bit country. Such a full palette!). In those days,
there was a feeling that something special was in the
air. In fact, you can still see its trace in the darl
cankers it has left on urban buildings and statuary.
JF: enjoy!
Too cool! But be careful. You know what they say:
Hudson Brothers (oh! I forgot to add in my list post
that not only did the HB have an evening variety show
- but they had a Saturday morning cartoon series,
too!) lead to Shaun Cassidy.


Hey, I liked Sean Cassidy...but not as much as ANDY GIBB!  YOW!  Or course,
I liked Scott Baio, but that's another problem.
Which Hudson Bro.. was married to Goldie Hawn, btw(I feel Brian Phillips
fingers tapping already on the keyboard!)
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Hudson Brothers or, No thanks, we're trying to cut down.
Date: 02 Jul 1999 09:39:01 -0400


>How's the Hollywood situation? the LP is unknown to me, as the Hudson
>Brothers also are.


To add to the commentary of Ben Waugh:

The Hudson Brothers, Bill, Mark and Brett came from seemingly nowhere with
a summer replacement show, which was synopsized by TV Guide as being a
combination of "The Marx Brothers and the Beatles".  Perhaps it was the
British Invasion sound of the Marx Brothers and the slapstick comedy of the
Beatles, but it would seem that their managers went into warp speed:

 - The  mid-summer show
 - The Hudson Brothers Razzle Dazzle Show (a kiddie show)
 - Appearances on the Hollywood Squares

Apparently, they too had had enough of the squeaky clean image and changed
their name to "Hudson".  Their songs "Lonely School Year" and "Coochie-Coo"
still haunt my memory and I HATE being haunted!  I disliked them intensely
then, but the standard twenty years has passed and who knows, they might
come back in style.

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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 02 Jul 1999 07:00:38 -0700 (PDT)


What you got against Tony DiFranco and famiglia, eh?
>
> Hey, I liked Sean Cassidy...but not as much as ANDY
> GIBB!  YOW!  Or course,
> I liked Scott Baio,
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What you got against Tony DiFranco and famiglia, eh?

>>>Because I have always been more partial to Kaptian Kool and the Kongs!
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Hudson Brothers or, No thanks, we're trying
Date: 02 Jul 1999 15:37:24 +0100 (BST)


At 09:39 02/07/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>How's the Hollywood situation? the LP is unknown to me, as the Hudson
>>Brothers also are.
So funny to be hearing about The Hudson Brothers. I was a big fan. I hadn't
thought about them for years. I must have been a very young girl. But I
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From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Brass Ring (was Tune In, Turn On)
Date: 02 Jul 1999 09:22:07 -0500


Brian Phillips <[e-mail]> wrote:
Re: (exotica) Benny Golson - "Tune In, Turn On"

>>I agree this is a great little CD - I love The Disadvantages of You
>>which was, of course, used by Benson & Hedges for their 60's
commercial
>>- Phil Bodner's Brass Ring did the original, I believe....

>If you see that Brass Ring LP, I would avoid it, though.  It didn't do
>anything for me.

I have that LP, and I like the Brass Ring sound, *when it works,* which,

unfortunately, didn't seem to be often enough - I have probably 4 or 5
Brass Ring LP's, but haven't listened in a while - I *do* think there's
enough
good stuff for somebody to put out a "Best of" comp.....

--

Mark D. Head
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 02 Jul 1999 07:32:45 -0700 (PDT)


Captain who and the whats? Do tell!

--- [e-mail] wrote:

> What you got against Tony DiFranco and famiglia, eh?
...........
> >>>Because I have always been more partial to
> Kaptian Kool and the Kongs!
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Subject: RE: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 02 Jul 1999 10:08:34 -0500


Jane Fondle wrote:

> Dearesteth Maggy and all other beloved list members...May I please
> announce, for the record, that the Hudson Brothers record
> ABSOLUTELY ROCKS!
> OH BABY!  There is a lot of moog and wah-wah guitar, great
> cock-rock vocals
> a la' The Raspberries or Mott the Hoople, great glam sounds like Mott or T
> Rex(around the Tanxx period), and some basic great fake-rock, now-sound,
> white-polyester, LOVE, baby, love!

What? No Chuckie Margolis skits?

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Subject: RE: (exotica) The Hudson Brothers or, No thanks, we're trying to cut down.
Date: 02 Jul 1999 10:12:09 -0500


Brian Phillips wrote:

> Apparently, they too had had enough of the squeaky clean image and changed
> their name to "Hudson".  Their songs "Lonely School Year" and
> "Coochie-Coo"
> still haunt my memory and I HATE being haunted!  I disliked them intensely
> then, but the standard twenty years has passed and who knows, they might
> come back in style.

Wasn't one of their big hits "Rendezvous"("Rendezvous oh-oh-oh rendezvous,
rendez-rendez-rendezvous...")?

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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 02 Jul 1999 11:51:59 -0400


>Captain who and the whats? Do tell!


Kaptain Kool and the Kongs were a faux-musical group, like the Banana
Splits, without the all-covering animal outfits for the Krofft Supershow.
Kaptan Kool (Michael Lembeck) was the Fonz-like leader, Turkey (Mickey
McMell) was the goofy drummer ("Turkey, you turkey!"  witty, huh?),
Southern-talking Nashville (Louise Duart, now an impressionist, although
her Yoko Ono, is not only inaccurate, but racist), Superchick (Debra
Clinger) and Flatbush, who rhymed the last word of every sentence as an
annoying habit, dagnabbit!  Flatbush was my favorite, but when the show
went to the second season, off came the makeup and good-bye Flatbush!

Here is a pic of them:

http://www.connecti.com/~gmclain/krofft/krofftsupershow.htm (the Flatbush
pic is from the first season, the bigger picture is from the second)

There WAS an album!

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Subject: SV: (exotica) Lee live in Stockholm
Date: 02 Jul 1999 18:17:37 +0200




>Confirmed!
>Lee will be playing! It will only take place at a different location, =
in
>Lilleholmen... wherever that is....
>
>Mo

Liljeholmen? Thats i little walk from where I used to live... Just after =
the bridge from "S=F6der".  Now I live in Gothenbourg on the swedish =
west coast. I moved this week. Tomorrow my summer LP hunt begins, I will =
search the whole soutern part of sweden. All fleas, thrifts and antique =
shops will be confiscated on their weirdest and most exotic items.=20

No Lee concert for me unfortunately. Too bad. I hope he returns soon.
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Subject: (exotica) Drasnin in Concert??
Date: 02 Jul 1999 12:33:33 -0400



Did I miss all of the reviews of this concert or didn't anybody attend/post=
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Subject: (exotica) [obits] Dennis Brown,Sylvia Sidney,Edward Dmytryk
Date: 02 Jul 1999 13:08:46 -0500


                           *Dennis Brown
    KINGSTON, Jamaica (AP) -- Dennis Brown, a former child star who became
known as the Crown Prince of Reggae, died Thursday. He was 42.
    Initial reports suggested Brown died of complications caused by respiratory
problems, but his cause of death had not yet been confirmed.
    Brown rose to prominence amid a 1970s wave of reggae singers that included
Bob Marley, who introduced reggae music to listeners worldwide. He released
a string of hit songs beginning with ``No Man is an Island,'' which he
recorded in 1969 at the age of 12.
    The singer's most fruitful period came later, when he produced hits
including ``Westbound Train,'' ``How Could I Leave,'' and ``Ghetto Girl.''
    He earned a Grammy nomination in 1995 for his album Light My Fire.

From the Jamaica Daily Gleaner...
Dennis Brown is dead
Cardiac arrest at UHWI
DENNIS BROWN, hailed as the "Crown Prince of Reggae" in deference to Bob
Marley's kingly rating, died at the University Hospital in Kingston this
morning.

A spokesman for Brown's camp said the 42-year-old entertainer had been
ailing for several weeks, and his condition worsened last night when he was
rushed to hospital.


                           *Sylvia Sidney
    NEW YORK (AP) -- Sylvia Sidney, the waiflike star of the 1930s who
specialized in playing victims and got an Oscar nomination in 1973 for a
comeback role in ``Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams,'' died Thursday of throat
cancer. She was 88.
    Miss Sidney made her professional theater debut at 16 and was still acting
70 years later, with a brief appearance in the 1988 hit ``Beetlejuice'' and
a small role in ``Mars Attacks'' in 1996. She had recently signed a
seven-year contract for a recurring role on the TV series ``Fantasy Island.''
    After breaking into films in the late '20s, she became one of Paramount's
top actresses.
    The others, Marlene Dietrich, Claudette Colbert and Carole Lombard among
them, were tough and sharp-witted -- the way Miss Sidney was in person.
    But her film specialty was playing victims: the slum girl murdered by her
fiance in ``An American Tragedy,'' the nice girlfriend of racketeer Gary
Cooper in ``City Streets,'' the nice girlfriend of Spencer Tracy, falsely
accused of murder, in ``Fury.''
    Among the directors she worked with were Rouben Mamoulian, in ``City
Streets,'' 1931; Josef von Sternberg, in ``An American Tragedy,'' 1931;
Alfred Hitchcock in ``Sabotage'' (also called ``A Woman Alone''), 1936;
William Wyler, in ``Dead End,'' 1937; and Fritz Lang in ``Fury,'' 1936,
``You Only Live Once,'' 1937, and ``You and Me,'' 1938.
    But she tired of being typecast as a victim, referring in an interview
years later to ``the days when they used to pay me by the teardrop.''
    She enjoyed her infrequent comedies, such as ``Merrily We Go to Hell,''
1932, and ``Thirty-Day Princess,'' 1934. And she turned away from films more
and more, returning to the stage in such productions as ``The Gentle
People'' in 1939; ``Angel Street'' in 1941; ``The Fourposter'' in 1951; and
``Enter Laughing'' in 1963.
    ``I didn't leave Hollywood because of anybody but myself,'' she once said.
``I just got disgusted with myself. I didn't know who I was, as an actress
or a person.''
    Her return to the screen was in the 1973 drama ``Summer Wishes, Winter
Dreams,'' in which she played Joanne Woodward's doomed mother. She was
nominated for an Academy Award for best supporting actress.
    In 1986, she won a Golden Globe award and was nominated for an Emmy for
``An Early Frost,'' a TV movie in which she played the grandmother of an
AIDS patient.
    In ``Beetlejuice,'' Miss Sidney played a cranky otherworldly adviser to a
husband and wife who die and must learn the ways of the spirit world.
    Miss Sidney, a descendant of Russian Jews, was born Sophia Kosow in New
York City on Aug. 8, 1910. She began taking dancing lessons at age 10 and
was a teen-ager when she made her professional stage debut in 1926.
    She married three times, to publisher Bennett Cerf, actor Luther Adler and
publicist Carlton Alsop. All three marriages ended in divorce. Jacob Adler,
her only child, died in the mid-1980s of amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or
Lou Gehrig's disease. After he fell ill, Miss Sidney became a volunteer for
the National ALS Foundation.
    Miss Sidney also was an accomplished needlepoint artist and wrote two books
on the subject.
    She has no survivors. A memorial service was scheduled for Aug. 9 at the
National Arts Club in New York.

    NEW YORK, July 2 (UPI) -- Character actress Sylvia Sidney has died of
throat cancer at a hospital in New York. She was 88.
    Among her credits in seven decades of acting were appearances in the 1996
comedy ``Mars Attacks!'' and the new version of ``Fantasy Island'' that ran
briefly on ABC-TV last year.
    Sidney garnered her only Academy Award nomination for her supporting role
as Joanne Woodward's mother in the 1973 film ``Summer Wishes, Winter
Dreams.'' The role was considered a comeback for Sidney, who had been absent
from the movies since the mid-1950s.
    Among her more memorable roles was that of Juno, the grumpy social worker
from the afterlife in the 1988 film ``Beetlejuice.''
    Born Sophia Kosow in the Bronx, N.Y., on Aug. 8, 1910, Sidney gained the
surname Sidney when she was adopted by the dental surgeon her mother married
after he parents divorced.
    She made her stage debut at age 16 and moved into movies in the early
1930s, acting in films including ``An American Tragedy,'' ``Ladies of the
Big House,'' and ``The Miracle Man.''
    She has no survivors. A memorial service is scheduled for Aug. 9 at the
National Arts Club in New York.

    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Film director Edward Dmytryk, a member of the Hollywood
Ten who served prison time during the Red Scare-era witch hunts of the 1940s
and was blacklisted until named names of his communist comrades, died
Thursday night. He was 90.
    Dmytryk, who worked with some of Hollywood's biggest stars, had been ill
for a year and succumbed to heart and kidney failure, said his wife, Jean
Porter. He died in his Encino home.
    Dmytryk was a rising young director at RKO Pictures in 1945 when he joined
the Communist Party. He said he stayed ``only a few months,'' but two years
later the House Committee on Un-American Activities called him and nine
other Hollywood figures to a Washington hearing.
    All refused to answer questions about party membership. They were convicted
of contempt and sentenced to a year in federal prison. When Dmytryk finished
his sentence, he admitted that he had been a party member. He hadn't done it
before, he remarked in 1988, ``because they would call me a coward; they'd
say I was doing it simply to stay out of jail.''
    In 1951, Dmytryk returned to the House committee and identified 26 people
as communists.
    ``I didn't feel guilty about talking,'' he said later. ``I knew (the
accused) would call me a rat. But I did what I wanted to do. I have never
regretted.''
    Dmytryk directed ``The Caine Mutiny,'' ``Raintree County,'' ``The Young
Lions,'' ``The Carpetbaggers'' and other films starring some of Hollywood's
biggest names.
    Like Elia Kazan, the recent recipient of a controversial honorary Oscar,
Dmytryk was never forgiven for naming names by others who had been
blacklisted. In 1988, the Barcelona Film Festival organized a symposium
about Hollywood's blacklist, inviting Dmytryk and three others who had been
blacklisted but never recanted.
    The trio would not share the same platform with Dmytryk and he was forced
to sit in the audience. His onetime comrades excoriated him as ``scum,''
``Judas'' and ``informer.''
    Dmytryk replied: ``I didn't give any names that weren't known by the FBI.''
    After the event, Dmytryk said: ``When I die, I know the obits will first
read `one of Hollywood's Unfriendly 10,' not `director of `The Caine
Mutiny,' `The Young Lions,' `Raintree County' and other films.'''
    Dmytryk was born Sept. 4, 1908, of Ukrainian immigrant parents. After his
mother died, his father remarried and moved to San Francisco, where the
neglected and abused boy sold newspapers to help support the family.
    At 15, he found work as a messenger at Paramount Studios in Hollywood and
rose through the ranks to become a film editor.
    He began directing low-budget movies at neighboring RKO and drew notice for
``Murder My Sweet,'' which started the hardboiled private eye cycle and
rescued Dick Powell from musicals, and ``Crossfire,'' an indictment of
anti-Semitism long a taboo subject in films.
    After leaving prison, Dmytryk directed three films in England, then
returned to Washington to recant and name names. Only then did he find work
in Hollywood.
    After making a string of well-crafted, low-budget films for Stanley Kramer,
the producer assigned him to the 1954 World War II drama, ``The Caine
Mutiny.'' The film's success made Dmytryk an in-demand director.
    Small, tough and muscular, the director became noted for being able to deal
with stars in dramas, Westerns or war movies.
    Among his films were ``The Broken Lance'' (Spencer Tracy), ``Soldier of
Fortune'' (Clark Gable), ``The Left Hand of God'' (Humphrey Bogart, Gene
Tierney), ``Raintree County'' (Elizabeth Taylor, Montgomery Clift) and ``The
Young Lions'' (Marlon Brando, Clift, Dean Martin).
    Others included ``A Walk on the Wild Side'' (Jane Fonda, Barbara Stanwyck),
``The Carpetbaggers'' (George Peppard, Alan Ladd), ``Where Love Has Gone''
(Bette Davis, Susan Hayward), ``Mirage'' (Gregory Peck) and ``Anzio''
(Robert Mitchum, Robert Ryan).
    Dmytryk later taught film at the University of Southern California, wrote
manuals on filmmaking and two autobiographies, ``It's a Hell of a Life but
Not a Bad Living'' and ``Odd Man Out, A Memoir of the Hollywood Ten.''
    In addition to his wife, survivors include a son by a first marriage,
Michael, two daughters, Rebecca and Victoria, and three grandchildren.
    Funeral arrangements were pending.








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Subject: (exotica) Nothing special
Date: 02 Jul 1999 19:15:25 +0200


As I said earlier, Gothenbourg is now my new hometown. Its natural that =
i should move here because the prices for record is cheapest in =
scandinavia ;) Here i found "Music out of the moon" 78 set in a mint =
condition last year for about $5 for example.=20

My first day here was a rainy one. I seeked shelter in a used records =
shop. Found a limited edition Solid State LP "You've got to hear it to =
believe it!!!" A comp with Kokee band Manny Alban Passion guitars etc. =
quite good, esp Kokee Bands version of Baia.=20
In the pedo pop genre (just "kiding") i found on the Stax label an LP =
with Lena Zavaroni "Ma! He's making eyes at me" listened very quick in =
the shop but it sounded like a funny one. She is about 10 years old, and =
makes "help me make it through the night". Couldnt resist it. Dirty me. =
dated 74
Also a Roger Miller LP I havent found cheap enough until now. "A trip in =
the country" contains songs from when he was mostly a songwriter, =
written for others. This contains his own versions. I adore that guy.

Went to a cd shop and choosed between a lot of cds. at least 30 % =
cheaper than Stockholm. Finally I choosed (the new?)"Jane Birkin Serge =
Gainsbourg" dated 1969. I need more french pop. And "The impossible =
world" by Combustible Edison. Great one, but y'all know that allready, =
its just me who are a slooooooooooow mooooooooooooover.

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Date: 02 Jul 1999 13:09:13 -0400







BTW, I know two of us have asked Rhino Handmade to release "Beneath The
Planet Of The Apes" -- anyone else made any requests?  The more we make the
better the chances of an actual release.

Best,
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>>In the words of Com Ed, "Alright Already!"  I voted fer yer apes, now
please go  vote for FRANK COMSTOCK-MUSIC FROM OUTERSPACE, before I pass out
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Desperately,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Nothing special
Date: 02 Jul 1999 10:40:03 -0700 (PDT)


I've got this one. It is reeeeeeeeeeal creepy. What
the hell was Mommy thinking (the next Brooke Shields)?

--- Sandberg Magnus <[e-mail]> wrote:

> In the pedo pop genre (just "kiding") i found on the
 Stax label an LP with Lena Zavaroni "Ma! He's making
 eyes at me" listened very quick in the shop but it
sounded like a funny one. She is about 10 years old,
 and makes "help me make it through the night".
> Couldnt resist it. Dirty me. dated 74

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Subject: (exotica) in the news
Date: 02 Jul 1999 14:04:56 -0500


    LARGO, Fla., July 2 (UPI) -- A 27-year-old Clearwater man who had been
facing up to five years behind bars is off the hook after a Pinellas County
jury cleared him of accusations he repeatedly stuck a bird's head in an
alcoholic beverage.
    The panel deliberated for a half hour Thursday before finding Theodore
Nobbe innocent of felony animal cruelty.
    Nobbe had been accused of dunking Woody -- a friend's parrot -- in a drink,
possibly a margarita, at a Clearwater restaurant last August.
    The bird was not injured.
    Animal rights activists had pressured prosecutors to take the case to
trial, saying alcohol is dangerous to a bird and a parrot dunker deserves
what he gets.
    Witnesses testified they did see Nobbe dance with the parrot, or more
precisely, with the parrot on his shoulder.
    But Nobbe's public defender told the court parrot dancing is not a crime.
    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Ray Stevens, who wrote ``The Streak'' and
``Everything Is Beautiful,'' says he's cancer-free after prostate surgery.
    The 60-year-old singer had surgery June 15 at Johns Hopkins University
Medical Center in Baltimore to remove his prostate.
    ``I'm very fortunate to have been given a clean bill of health following my
surgery,'' he said in a statement today. ``The cancer was confined to the
prostate.''
    Ray returns to the stage at the Acuff Theatre in Nashville on Sept. 15.
    LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Bette Midler will ring in the year 2000 with a few
thousand people at the new Mandalay Bay hotel-casino.
    The Divine Miss M will perform two shows on New Year's Eve and Jan. 1, it
was announced Thursday. Tickets will cost up to $500.
    KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- The voice of ``Sleeping Beauty'' is crying foul
over a property dispute.
    Diva Mary Costa and others have filed a lawsuit over the hassle with mobile
home magnate Jim Clayton. They accuse him of cajoling residents of the LaRue
Condominiums into giving him access to his new home on Fort Loudoun Lake.
Costa claims the easement affects her driveway.
    Clayton's behavior bordered on ``robber baronism,'' Costa's lawyer, Robert
Crossley, said in a letter.
    ``She will not let you get away with it without a fight,'' he wrote of his
client, a veteran of the Metropolitan and San Francisco operas who supplied
the singing voice for the 1959 Disney movie.
    Clayton said most of his neighbors have been very accommodating.
    ``It's just completely without understanding that Mary Costa could not take
the same position,'' Clayton said this week.
    A Knox County judge has issued a temporary restraining order preventing
Clayton from using the driveway until he can study the case.
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Date: 02 Jul 1999 19:55:17 +0200


>I've got this one. It is reeeeeeeeeeal creepy. What
>the hell was Mommy thinking (the next Brooke Shields)?

Yeah! WHY THE HELL DID THEY MAKE THAT LP???
Damn,  i dont seem to find the right cables. Cant listen to LPs today.=20
Lovely Jane Birkin sings Orang Outan now in the PC speakers. I saw a =
whole bunch of new french reissues today, gotta get me some more.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) dunking woody
Date: 02 Jul 1999 14:23:35 -0500


After re-reading this article, I think this is the best line written for a
news article this year!

At 02:04 PM 7/2/99 -0500, I wrote:
>
>    LARGO, Fla., July 2 (UPI) --
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Subject: (exotica) Lena now leaner...
Date: 02 Jul 1999 19:46:59 +0100


>
> In the pedo pop genre (just "kiding") i found on the
> Stax label an LP with Lena Zavaroni "Ma! He's making
> eyes at me"

>I've got this one. It is reeeeeeeeeeal creepy. What
>the hell was Mommy thinking (the next Brooke Shields)?
>
Lena Zavaroni was an appallingly precocious child who
won several weeks running on a talent show called
'Opportunity knocks' hosted by the late Hughie Green.
She grew up from being a talented child to be an
ordinary adult and currently lives in quasi-poverty in
Scotland, battling anorexia.  I didn't know she had
records released on a respectable label like Stax.  Now
that IS shocking!  I think mommy was probably
thinking the next Brenda Lee........

Opportunity knocks gave a large number of stars a
break in England.  Probably the most internationally
famous one was folk chanteuse Mary Hopkin, who
was quite successful on the moptop label Apple.

Are there any talent shows on networked TV in
the USA at present?

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Subject: (exotica) talent / variety shows
Date: 02 Jul 1999 14:01:34 -0500 (CDT)




I deleted that last post in
which someone asked if there
were talent shows in the US.

I don't know if Star Search is still
going.

I do know that Spanish-language television
has this thing called Sabado Gigante,
which seems to run all Saturday long,
and it's every seventies Chuck Barris
show concept combined into one, including
a sort of gong show routine, where people
get cut off in the middle of their performance
if they suck.  It's pretty entertaining.

Oh, and they have commercials with dancing
foodstuffs!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Lena now leaner...
Date: 02 Jul 1999 15:06:09 -0400


>Lena Zavaroni was an appallingly precocious child who
>won several weeks running on a talent show called
>'Opportunity knocks' hosted by the late Hughie Green.
>She grew up from being a talented child to be an
>ordinary adult and currently lives in quasi-poverty in
>Scotland, battling anorexia.  I didn't know she had
>records released on a respectable label like Stax.  Now
>that IS shocking!  I think mommy was probably
>thinking the next Brenda Lee........

This is akin to the album of German drinking songs that I saw on Chess!

Speaking of Ms. Zavaroni, what about the "Zavaroni's Cafe" mentioned here?
http://www.isle-of-bute.com/Eating%20out.htm

>Are there any talent shows on networked TV in
>the USA at present?

Outside of C-SPAN, not really.  There is a lip-sync show on the Fox Family
channel, but that is as close as it gets.  Has anyone ever made the jump
from amateur lip-sync to PRO lip-sync, besides Milli Vanilli?

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Date: 02 Jul 1999 15:07:52 EDT


Note that the song "So You Are a Star" was written about Goldie Hawn who was
then married to one of the Bros. Hudson (he fathered her kids).  The
Wondermints covered it on their Japanese import of covers only (which is
rawther cool, including some rare bacharach and the Monkees "Dolphin Song").
They have a cut on the invaluable Bubblegum Classic series on Varese
Sarabande under their 'gum name: Everyday Hudson.  There's some funny stuff
on the Hudson Brothers in the .compilation of Sixteen magazine which you can
still get at Virgin.  Apparently Bill was boning Gloria Stavers the legendary
editor.  The rest of the boys were getting all the Boogie Night action
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Subject: Re: (exotica) dunking woody
Date: 02 Jul 1999 12:18:12 -0700 (PDT)


I've heard it referred to in the restaurant biz as a
"Miami dip." Go, Florida!

--- Lou Smith <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
 After re-reading this article, I think this is the
best line written for a
> news article this year!

    LARGO, Fla., July 2 (UPI) --
    Nobbe had been accused of dunking Woody in a
 drink.

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Subject: SV: (exotica) talent / variety shows
Date: 02 Jul 1999 21:09:36 +0200


Talent shows.
They seem to have disappered over here...
There is one but in that the children is not allowed to sing, they just =
mime wearing replicas of the cloths the artists they imitate had. Now =
isnt this very very sad indeed, and a symbol of the most disgusting =
music business (and SSociety) of today.

MORE TALENT SHOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M




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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Porto Rico, phone your service...
Date: 02 Jul 1999 15:17:08 -0400


I forgot!  "Showtime at the Apollo" has a talent segment.



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From: dymaxia <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 02 Jul 1999 14:33:57 -0500 (CDT)




And one of them Hudson dudes is
married to Brix Smith, who used
to be in the Fall and married to
Mark E. Smith.  I swear to God.

--

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lena now leaner...
Date: 02 Jul 1999 12:38:24 -0700 (PDT)


Sorry to hear Lena has fallen on lean times, purged of
talent, not a thin dime... sorry - I liked the subject
header.

> Are there any talent shows on networked TV in
> the USA at present?
>
> Hugh
What was it a few years back? Star Search? That thing
with Ed McMahan? Is that still on? Very perky.



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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Liberty discography
Date: 02 Jul 1999 21:50:34 +0200


I just found this on the net:
http://www.iconnect.net/home/bsnpubs/liberty.html

a complete discography of Liberty and sub label Sunset? I havent looked =
that deep.

Good to have if buying old liberty records on the net to see what songs =
are included on the LP.

M



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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) talent / variety shows
Date: 02 Jul 1999 12:57:15 -0700 (PDT)



I think the talent show over in these parts has ceded
its slot to high beer consumption programming like
"When Cops Attack". There was some show a while back
that was nothing but lurid auto accidents (car meets
wall or pedestrian), falls from great heights, etc. I
think it was called something like "Really F*cked Up
Sh*t" or "That Had To Hurt" or words to that effect.




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> MORE TALENT SHOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Subject: (exotica) Billy Ward
Date: 02 Jul 1999 21:55:31 +0200


I have only seen the exotica LP of Billy Ward once, but back then it was =
too expensive. Cant remember the title... Is it Pagan Love Song? Hows it =
like?  Noone ever mentions it. The cover is super.
M



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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour...
Date: 02 Jul 1999 16:35:26 -0400


Darryl:

Why not sell cassettes of your programs??...... =3D:-)




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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obits] Forrest Mars Sr.,Mario Puzo
Date: 02 Jul 1999 16:39:35 -0500


    McLEAN, Va. (AP) -- Forrest Mars Sr., who created M&Ms candies and built
one of the biggest fortunes in America as head of the Mars candy empire, has
died. He was 95.
    The reclusive billionaire, one of the richest men in America, died of
natural causes Thursday night in Miami, said Sharon Heffelfinger, a
spokeswoman for McLean-based Mars Inc.
    She said no further information would be released.
    The candy giant began in 1911 with Frank C. Mars' small business in Tacoma,
Wash. In 1940, his son, Forrest, devised a candy modeled after a British
confection: a circle of chocolate covered with a crunchy coating.
    M&Ms -- promoted, as every Baby Boomer knows, as the candy that melts in
your mouth, not in your hand -- were created as much out of meteorological
necessity as anything.
    ``In those days, the stores didn't have air conditioning, the cars didn't
have air conditioning, the homes didn't have air conditioning,'' then-Mars
spokesman Hans Fiuczynski said as the candy turned 50 in 1990.
    The candy, originally sold in paper tubes, came in brown, yellow, orange,
red, green and violet, later replaced by tan. Beginning in 1950, the candies
were stamped with the trademark ``M'' to assure customers they were getting
the real thing. Peanut M&Ms came out in 1954.
    The company now has 30,000 employees. Besides M&Ms, its candy brands
include Skittles, Milky Way, Dove, Snickers and Three Musketeers. Other
brands owned by the Mars companies include Uncle Ben's Rice, the Kal Kan and
Pedigree pet food labels, and Combos, Kudos and Twix snack foods.
    Mars' sons, Forrest Jr. and John, are now co-presidents of the privately
held company. In its rankings of richest Americans last fall, Forbes listed
Forrest Jr. as 29th richest, Forrest Sr. as 30th richest, John as 31st
richest and Jacqueline Mars Vogel, John and Forrest Jr.'s sister, at 33rd.
The family matriarch, Forrest Sr.'s wife Audrey, died in 1989.
           The family became known for its reticence as well as its riches.
    ``Mars's assets are often underestimated because the company is as loose
with information as its McLean, Va., neighbor, the CIA,'' Fortune magazine
said in 1988 when it dubbed the family the richest in America at that time.
    M&M's were packed in World War II GI rations, served at the 1984 Olympics
in Los Angeles and launched with 31 shuttle flights as of 1990. The rock
band Van Halen's contract called for a backstage stash of three pounds of
M&M's -- with all the brown and tan ones removed.
    The company had discontinued red M&Ms in 1976 because of the cancer scare
over Red Dye No. 2, although the candy never contained the substance. Red
M&M's reappeared in 1987.

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Best-selling author Mario Puzo, creator of the fictional
Corleone mob family and winner of two Oscars for his screen adaptations of
his book ``The Godfather,'' died today. He was 78.
    Puzo died, apparently of heart failure, at his home in Bay Shore on Long
Island, said Neil Olson, his literary agent. Puzo had just finished work on
his latest book, ``Omerta.'' The book is due out in July 2000.
    Puzo, who wrote seven other novels in addition to ``The Godfather,'' was
born in New York, the son of illiterate Italian immigrants. After serving in
World War II, he began his writing career -- starting out doing pulp stories
for men's magazines.
    But his literary ambitions were much higher, and he published his first
novel, ``The Dark Arena,'' in 1955.
    Puzo's next book was an autobiographical piece about the Italian immigrant
experience. ``The Fortunate Pilgrim,'' was hailed by The New York Times as
``a small classic.'' But it sold fewer than 5,000 copies and Puzo, seeking
the fame and fortune he felt he deserved as a writer, set out to write a
best seller.
    He succeeded. ``The Godfather,'' which came out in 1969, covered a
different immigrant experience: It focused on the Corleone family, Italians
who came to the United States and plunged into the world of organized crime.
    The book sold more than 21 million copies worldwide, and spawned movies
that became American cinematic classics. Marlon Brando, Al Pacino and Robert
De Niro brought Puzo's characters to the screen; Puzo co-wrote the
screenplays with director Francis Ford Coppola.
    ``The Godfather'' (1972) and ``The Godfather Part II'' (1974) both won
best-picture Oscars as well as the Oscars for best script. Brando was
awarded best actor Oscar for Part I and De Niro got best suporting actor for
Part II. Part III (1990) was less successful but did pick up some Oscar
nominations, including best picture.
    ``His talent was obvious,'' said James Caan, who portrayed the ill-fated
Sonny Corleone in ``The Godfather.''
    ``I had the good fortune of knowing him and working with him on 'The
Godfather' and the misfortune of not knowing him better. He was a real nice
man who will be deeply missed.''
    After the success of ``The Godfather,'' Puzo was often asked if he had ties
to organized crime -- and his answer was always no.
    ``It might have been preferable to be in the Mafia,'' he said in 1996.
``I'm glad I'm a writer, but it's hard work. Nobody likes to work hard.''
    He co-wrote several other screenplays, including two Superman movies, as
well as ``The Cotton Club'' and ``Christopher Columbus.''
    In 1984, he brought out another best-seller, ``The Sicilian.''
    Puzo's other books included ``Fool's Diet,'' a 1978 effort on casinos;
1992's ``The Fourth K,'' a futuristic political thriller; and ``The Last
Don'' in 1996, a return to his favorite topic, the Mafia.
    ``The Last Don'' became another runaway best seller and was the basis for a
highly rated television miniseries.
    In an 1996 Associated Press interview, he acknowledged his portrayals, with
their emphasis on honor and family, made the Mafia a more romantic place
than the thuggery or buffoonery of the real thing.
    ``They're not my Mafia,'' he said of the real-life mobsters. ``My Mafia is
a very romanticized myth.''
    He insisted that his research was done in libraries, not amid gangsters.
    ``Where would I have time to be in the Mafia?'' he asked. ``I starved
before the success of `The Godfather.' If I was in the Mafia I would have
made enough money so I wouldn't have to write.''
    And anyway, he asked, ``Just because a guy's a murderer, he can't have
endearing traits?''
    Puzo spent the last three years working on ``Omerta,'' a book about a mob
family on the brink of legitimacy. ``Omerta'' is the mob code of silence.
    ``It's vintage Puzo,'' said his editor, Jonathan Karp. ``He was a virtuoso
storyteller right up to the end.''
    When not writing, Puzo lived what he liked to call the ``bourgeois life,''
splitting time between his homes in Los Angeles and Long Island. He loved
tennis, sports and gambling; Puzo loved to visit Las Vegas.
    Puzo is survived by his children, Anthony, Dorothy, Eugene, Virginia and
Joseph; a sister, Evelyn Murphy, a brother, Anthony Cleri; his companion of
20 years, Carol Gino; and nine grandchildren.
    His wife, Erika, died in 1978.
    A private family service is planned for Monday, Olson said.






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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Drasnin in Concert??
Date: 02 Jul 1999 23:19:28 +0200


>Did I miss all of the reviews of this concert or didn't anybody =
attend/post anything, etc.....?
>
>Nate


Yes agree with Nate... Where are the posts dealing with this most =
precious happening?

Mongoose



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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lena now leaner...
Date: 02 Jul 1999 23:03:47 +0100 (BST)


At 19:46 02/07/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>
>> In the pedo pop genre (just "kiding") i found on the
>> Stax label an LP with Lena Zavaroni "Ma! He's making
>> eyes at me"


Apparently she's Scottish, and suffered from bulemia for a number of years.
A Danish friend of mine turned me on to her. She really is pedopop! She has
an exceedingly grown up voice for a little girl. And she sings very grown up
songs! I can't believe no one realised just WHAT they were selling! Most
people in the UK just can't take her seriously, but I wasn't here for the
Opportunity Knocks programme and wasn't forcefed her. I think she's
frighteningly mature. A true MUST!

Jill "Mingo-go", who is coming off more and more like a sexual deviant every
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Hudsons
Date: 02 Jul 1999 19:18:41


Ben Waugh wrote:

>Hudson Brothers (oh! I forgot to add in my list post
that not only did the HB have an evening variety show
- - but they had a Saturday morning cartoon series,
too!)

THE HUDSON BROTHERS RAZZLE DAZZLE SHOW was a live-action, shot-on-video
comedy/music show for kids, syndicated for Saturday mornings/afternoon
play. NOT a cartoon. It was paired back-to-back with the similar THE HARLEM
CLOBETROTTERS POPCORN MACHINE.

The H Bros. made some 45s in an earlier, Beatlesesque garage configuration
named The New Yorkers, that were later issued as an album. It's supposed to
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From: "Kevin C." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour...
Date: 02 Jul 1999 16:48:46 -0700


Nathan Miner wrote:
>
> Darryl:
>
> Why not sell cassettes of your programs??...... =:-)

Uh, put me down for some!

Actually, I'm sure he's rather busy with the show... might someone in our
"audience" be willing to tape/burn some of these shows?  I'd love to have
several of these on CD! (would be nice to jump right to that rare Les Baxter
track, rather than having to wade through the whole tape, or stream)

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From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Drasnin in Concert??
Date: 02 Jul 1999 18:46:29 -0500


> >Did I miss all of the reviews of this concert or didn't anybody
>attend/post anything, etc.....?
> >
> >Nate


>Yes agree with Nate... Where are the posts dealing with this most
>precious happening?


sorry!  i am a bad boy!  i haven't posted anything!  i have been so
busy and i was afraid i couldn't do the event justice with a short
review!  plus there are other more impartial list member attendees
out there from whom i'd like to hear.

anyway, it was a blast...  the sound could have been better,
especially during Drasnin's quiet set, but all in all a great night.
Skip Heller's group played first, with Bonebreak on percussion.  good
stuff - better than anticipated.   then for the second set, Drasnin
conducted the Minnesota Contemporary Ensemble w/members of Heller's
group (incl. bonebreak) in performing "voodoo" (the entire album +
one newly written song especially for the performance: "moonlight in
mankato").  Third set was the MCE along with Drasnin (as musician)
performing accurate and slammin' renditions of exotica standards
which included  Mambo #8,  One Mint Julip, Peter Gunn, Soul Bossa
Nova (Quincy sent the original score!), Tiki (from "Exotica Suite" -
Denny sent the score!), an AMAZING "Touch of Evil" medley and two Yma
Sumac songs from her "Mambo" lp (Taka Rari and another which slips my
mind) performed with a GREAT operatic soloist that out-Yma'd Yma
(according to Skip, who has toured her).  There was more too i
think...  can't remember now.

i have some photos scanned...  trying to find time to fix-up and post
with captions on the Club Velvet site.

Highlights for Kini:

-  Duane Schulthess' (of the MCE) homemade PVC boobam
-  the "Touch of Evil" medley...  for sure
-  the two Yma songs
-  Meeting "Bob" Drasnin (see the autographed LP here:
http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/lp/Selections39.html  )
-  hanging out the following day at a backyard BBQ with the Drasnins,
Bonebreak, Heller and others.  great people, all.

i was proud to have been a part of the event!   any other comments out there?

  - king kini





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From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Julie London's " An Occassional Man"
Date: 02 Jul 1999 18:48:52 -0500


someone was recently talking about her this....   what LP was julie's
version orignally on?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) album covers on the net
Date: 02 Jul 1999 19:58:36 +0000


After attending the Web99 design conference in SF, CA this past week, I
am determined to make my site legal.

I wonder if anyone else here who has album covers or other scanned art on
their sites has been able to get permission to use this copyrighted material.
The gist of it is...no matter what the notification is, anything you didn't
create you don't have rights to reproduce for public consumption.

If RCA, Liberty or Capitol (among others) thought it was unwise to let
websites show off their property, I would think a lot of us would be in BIG
trouble.  I could see the reasoning, too: they want to handle the funneling
of interest in their products themselves.

Still, I can imagine at least one person on this list might have actually
got permission.  If so, who did you go to?

I have resigned myself to the task of pulling all album art off my site
until I get permission.  The ones I am really concerned with are the ones
published by lesser known companies which probably do not exist anymore.
There is no one to even write...yet to use the property now would
technically be wrong
(life of the creator plus 70 years I think).  I will just have to wait until
after 2030, I suppose... longer if they are still living!

Actually, this is all for the best...I can create my own art now.  However,
it is sad I won't be able to reproduce album art whenever it strikes my fancy.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hudsons
Date: 02 Jul 1999 23:10:49 -0400


yeah i used to watch that show...
i always thought they were trying to be like the 3 Dog Night meet the Monkees.
i only remember that the songs and the show were pretty lame, but they
could be "great" now.
and one sketch sticks in my mind....
Chucky "Hey" Margolis...
I was wondering if anyone else used to watch this cheesy childrens
entertainment.
Leave it to Laura!

bump



>>Hudson Brothers (oh! I forgot to add in my list post
>that not only did the HB have an evening variety show
>- - but they had a Saturday morning cartoon series,
>too!)
>
>THE HUDSON BROTHERS RAZZLE DAZZLE SHOW was a live-action, shot-on-video
>comedy/music show for kids, syndicated for Saturday mornings/afternoon
>play. NOT a cartoon. It was paired back-to-back with the similar THE HARLEM
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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Re: Drasnin in Concert??
Date: 03 Jul 1999 08:37:44 +0200



I am very jelous.
I hope there will be a second chance for me in the future Now.

Thanks for the report!
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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Santo, actually.
Date: 03 Jul 1999 15:47:03 +0200


I recently bought this italian annual called Mondo Bizzarro Mag... it
features tons of articles and reviews about all sorts of weird stuff (from
soft-porn stars to crappy records from 70's and so on...); they have a
review of a 1998 issue of a mexican magazine called Super Luchas. It's all
about Lucha Libre wrestlers (they mention briefly El Santo in the review)
and there are ridiculous pics of guys like "Super Pinocho" ;)))))
The mag has also some extremely violent comics... if anyone wants to know
more it's published by Mondo Bizzarro (Piazza San Martino 3/d - 40126
Bologna Italy); the shop that published this mag sells any kind of bizarre
stuff (movies, comics, erotica...) and I think they have a catalogue.


bye,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Santo
Date: 03 Jul 1999 11:07:55 EDT



hey i know i was the one who originally asked about santo, but if anyone else
is intrested, i found a guy who has some santo stuff a few posters, lobby
cards, ect through one of the links you guys put in the list, anyways, he has
a catolog of hundreds of old collectible lobby cards and window cards from
foregin movies...
his email is:  [e-mail]

laters
-the Caucasian

ps, thanks for all the good yma sumac feedback, im gonna haggle with the guy
and see what i can do, but if that doenst work, a swift one to the wobblies
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From: toyboat 99 <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) one more thing
Date: 03 Jul 1999 11:42:48 CDT


Furthur to my post of a week or so ago, here's one more item that listers
may be interested in. Somehow I ended up with two copies which seems
profoundly strange. Yes, they're all out on CD in one form or another but
maybe there's someone who can appreciate a copy in the original format. If
you're interested, have a look (there's an image of the front cover as
well):

The Free Design - "Kites Are Fun" LP, on Enoch Light's Project 3 label

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=125981175

Thanks...

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Billy Ward
Date: 03 Jul 1999 14:31:51 EDT


you want my copy? You can have it for shipping cost

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Julie London's " An Occassional Man"
Date: 03 Jul 1999 11:53:46 -0700 (PDT)


Whatever Julie Wants. Liberty LRP 3192/LST 7192. She
also does a cover of Love for Sale on this one. But it
doesn't do as much for me as Libby Holman's more
hard-bitten version.

--- King Kini <[e-mail]> wrote:

> someone was recently talking about her this....
> what LP was julie's
> version orignally on?

>   - kk

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Date: 03 Jul 1999 15:08:38 EDT


<< Yes, they're all out on CD in one form or another but
 maybe there's someone who can appreciate a copy in the original format. >>

For me, there is no substitute for the original.  I realized that not long
ago when I (finally!!) stumbled across the orignal Sweden Heaven Or Hell
soundtrack on Ariel records.  I have the Easy Tempo reissue on CD (Svezia
Inferno E Paradiso), with all the additional bonus material.  As great a CD
as it is, when I saw the original, the feeling I had was that of a major
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From: James G <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) TCM's Summer of Darkness
Date: 03 Jul 1999 12:49:19 -0700


Turner Classic Movies is having a film-noir festival throughout July and
August on Friday and Sat nights (and some Kubrick and Natalie Wood too).
I'm looking forward to two months of gin mills, torch singers in swank
joints, flophouses, dark alleys, B-girls cracking wise, cheap motels,
crooked cops, deep rivers full of bodies, slinky slips, blazing gats and
hats hats hats!

http://TCM.turner.com/SPECIAL_THEME/99/07/list.htm

Most of the movies are 40's through 50's, and I can't wait to hear the
melodramatic orchestal scores and hopefully the rise of crime jazz. Lots
of rarities, but its always interesting to revisit a classic and pay
close attention to the score - Adolph Deutsch's score to "The Maltese
Falcon" was a delight last night.


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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 03 Jul 1999 21:11:35 -0500


This week's Retro Cocktail Hour webcast is a tasty mix of TV tunes,
outer space pop and swinging '60s Now Sound grooviness.  You'll hear
EZ-meister Ray Conniff's "Theme from S.W.A.T.", the "Route 66 Theme"
by organist Eddie Baxter and Mel Henke's crazy "See the U.S.A. In
Your Chevrolet"!

Also--Claus Ogerman with "Land of 1000 Dances" from "Watusi Trumpets"
(a Now Sound classic!), a funked-up version of "Quiet Village" by
Odell Brown and the Organ-izers, plus the Soulful Strings and "Our
Day Will Come".  Tony Bennett jams with bongo beaters extraordinaire
Candido and Sabu.  Movie tunes Italian-style by Piero Umiliani and
Armando Trovaioli.  Exotica from Martin Denny, Les Baxter, Axel
Stordahl and Dick Schory.

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, just go to:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html

Requires at least a 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer 5.0 or
G2.

While you listen, take a tour of the newest exhibit in the Retro
Cocktail Hour album gallery - it's "Bongo Fever", with covers from
some classic bongo albums, including "Skins!", "Latin Fever" (wotta
cover!) and "Bongo Madness".

As always, thanks for the space.


Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
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KANU Radio
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
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From: Peter Carlfors <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Lee live in Stockholm
Date: 04 Jul 1999 00:37:38 -0700 (PDT)


Hey cowboy, don┤t be sad. I┤m still in town and I give
you and all others on the list a full report of the
concert!
Happy hunting on the flea┤s down in Gothenburg!

/Peter (one of the "twin brothers of the list")

--- Sandberg Magnus <[e-mail]> wrote:
>

>
> No Lee concert for me unfortunately. Too bad. I hope
> he returns soon.
> Magnus
>

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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alessandroni CD and another free MP3 - final post!
Date: 04 Jul 1999 17:22:28 +0200


http://www.mp3.com/alessandroni

page updated, new free MP3 "Once upon a time... The Italian Western
(Suite)" (8mb!!) ...the DAM CD album "El Puro" has been completely uploaded
and will be on sale within the next 24 hours from the mp3.com page.
Thanks to all those who visited the site and downloaded the tracks!!

bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista



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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) A few things for sale or trade
Date: 04 Jul 1999 12:34:20 -0700


Doing some house cleaning and looking for homes for these items.  Any
reasonable offers accepted.  Prefer U.S. buyers or traders for shipping
reasons but not essential.

CD Arthur Lyman - Yellow Bird
CD Money Mark - Mark's Keyboard Repair
CD Mel Henke - La Dolce Henke
LP Perez Prado - Pops and Prado
LP Command Stereo Check Out record

Non-commerce content:  I don't know why, but I've been finding cool Lalo
Schifrin music on 8-track tapes lately.  I wish I could play them in the
car though.

-- Brad


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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) MY first list-based dream
Date: 05 Jul 1999 10:33:49 -0700


With all the recent talk about Jill stripping, and Laura's ever-present
Astro-sluttineness one would expect an Exotica list-based dream to be
more...uhhh...  interesting, but no such luck.

It seems in this dream, I am digging a new basement for my house (my last
house had great basement where I hid from the family surrounded by piles of
thrift-store vinyl...GOD I miss that house.) Brother Cleve, who looked just
like a web-designer in the next office down from me at work was driving the
Bobcat tractor and kicking up an awful dust which was threatening all my
treasures. My business partner was ordering me to grab and rescue
low-priority items, while I was frantically trying to save the important
stuff.

Creeepy!

Ron



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Subject: (exotica) Killer deal on a tiki bar
Date: 03 Jul 1999 12:33:35 EDT


Just talked to Mike of Pineapplehead and he told me he has a killer 6 foot
long mint condition tiki bar with 3 stools on the website now for $800!  That
is a total steal.  Go to www.pineapplehead.com

If only I had the extra money to do it, I'd trade up right now.....

- Michele


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dot Disks
Date: 04 Jul 1999 19:31:56 +0100



Just spent an interesting half hour browsing the printed inner sleeve of a
Billy Vaughn album I picked up from a thrift store during the week.  It
also had a leaflet inside with a further 101 Dot albums (circa 1965)
illustrated.  The label certainly had a big foot in the schmaltz door -
Lawrence Welk, The Lennon Sisters, Pat Boone, Mills Bros, umpteen Billy
Vaughn albums.  There are also offerings from a very suspect-looking banjo
player Eddie Peabody, Welk's accordianist Myron Floren and ragtime pianist
Johnny Maddox.

Exotica on Dot?  Well, there's Eddie Baxter at the Lowrey Organ,  Hawaiian
music by Hal Aloma...  but the most intriguing item is Dot DLP 3075 "Word
Jazz".  described as 'Unique patter from Ken Nordine, plus jazz and
startling hi-fi effects'.  Sounds Wonderful.

Hope you're all having a good 4th July!

Hugh.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dot Disks
Date: 04 Jul 1999 14:54:30 EDT


In a message dated 7/4/99 2:37:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> "Word
>  Jazz".  described as 'Unique patter from Ken Nordine, plus jazz and
>  startling hi-fi effects'.  Sounds Wonderful.

Thought you might want to know, this one is now avaliable on CD.  Actually,
it came out a few years ago and may be deleted, but I still see it waiting to
be bought in several stores near my home.  It IS great.  All the Nordine
records I have heard are very much fun to listen to.

Best wishes,
Larry


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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Les Parapluies de Cherbourg
Date: 04 Jul 1999 21:41:46 +0200


I can vaguely recall this movie being mentioned on the list last year but I
managed to see this at the cinema this afternoon (there's a big Catherine
Deneuve retrospective showing in the Dutch cinemas this summer) and it
absolutely knocked me out, it was just perfect. And what an amazing
wallpaper. So I was wondering if anybody would be so kind to do me a tape of
the Legrand score please as the title music is surely going to haunt me for
the next  few days yet. Much thanks.


BTW Also interested in a tape of Oliver Stone's "Salvador" if anyone has a
copy of that.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) About the Monks...
Date: 04 Jul 1999 21:39:53 +0200


Brian:

>There is a CD of demos that is going to be released on July 15.  Also,
>Omplatten is going to re-release the expanded version of the Monks album in
>the near future.  For those who have not heard the Monks, do so!  It's
>great stuff.  Fuzz guitar, organ and rhythm banjo and in many cases...Yes,
>I said rhythm banjo...in many cases, no cymbals.


Great stuff, I'll second that. I bought this Repertoire reissue a few years
ago (due to The Fall - my favourite group - covering Shut Up and I Hate You
on two mid 90s albums) and it sounds unlike any other music from that
period I am familiar with. Inventors of Punk indeed.

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Ethiopiques
Date: 04 Jul 1999 21:49:22 +0200


The website of the recordcompany who brings out this series:
www.budamusique.com has a few soundsamples.


Arjan







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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lena now leaner...
Date: 05 Jul 1999 12:40:49 +0100


> From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
>
> Lena Zavaroni was an appallingly precocious child who
> won several weeks running on a talent show called
> 'Opportunity knocks' hosted by the late Hughie Green.

Frighteningly, Hughie made at least one album, which I think was a
Sing-Along Party at Butlin's, accompanied by the versatile (or at
least all-over-the-oche-esque) Mr. Geoff Love.

Record Collector recently had a feature on celebrity albums, and there
were some crackers in there. But there's plenty more, I'm
sure. For example, the truly appalling album by DEREK BATEY (host of
"Mr. and Mrs."), the stomach-churning Brut-ality of "Henry Cooper's
Knockout Party", and the arse-kicking coolness of Mike "Frank Butcher"
Read's "Ugly Duckling" album, which has a FANTASTIC version of "Purple
People Eater" on it...

-- Pete (with eyes peeled for that Larry Grayson album).



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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 05 Jul 1999 10:59:02 -0400


At 07:00 AM 7/2/99 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote:

>> I liked Scott Baio,

I was once issued what amounted to a "restraining order" not to come within
a hundred yards - or was it feet? - of either Scott Baio or his father.

True story.  As we say in show biz.

And no I wasn't stalking him.  Nattie never loved Chachi.

Nat




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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) talent / variety shows
Date: 05 Jul 1999 10:59:06 -0400


At 09:09 PM 7/2/99 +0200, Sandberg Magnus wrote:
>
>Talent shows.
>They seem to have disappered over here...

How late am I on these threads?  Just got back from an intense weekend of
record shopping and haggling in Cleveland which I will post on later in a
series of short stories.
But on this topic, there was a talent show for kids here when we were
growing up.  I'm sure Will remembers it.  Perhaps he was even on it.
It was called "Tiny Talent Time" and though the show may be gone, those
three words are still heard around these parts whenever tiny talents are
foisted upon an unsuspecting public.

Nat



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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) talent / variety shows
Date: 05 Jul 1999 11:19:39 -0400


Of course I remember Tiny Talent Time, where every kid
from every ethnic background above the equator came on to
play the accordion.  And Bill Lawrence, the host, seemed to turn
up everywhere on Toronto-area  television.

Does anyone remember Schnitzel House, on Buffalo-area tv,
with an old German host, Grandpa Schnitzler, and a song that
went something like "Inky-dinky, inky-dinky, inky-dinky schnitzel
house."  If anyone does, will they please agree to testify on my
behalf at my sanity hearing?

Will
 -------------------------------------------------
Will Straw, PhD
Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University

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From: "Brian Tozer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) talent / variety shows
Date: 05 Jul 1999 11:30:34 -0400


Don't worry Will, you're fine!
Schnitzel House really did exist although I had always assumed it
was a Kitchener/Waterloo production due to the Oktoberfest
connection.
Now who remembers Canadian Bandstand with host, Grantly? (and
Big Al's Ranch Party with Larry-O and......)

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Vinyl tale
Date: 05 Jul 1999 11:14:25 -0500


A new friend came to Rancho DeLuxe, our ramshackle little place, first time
visit. Young guy -- shares a house with two roommates. Carl had said his
late dad was an audiophile: Stereo Review subscription, thousands of
classical records stored in plastic protective sleeves, the best equipment
he could buy on a Methodist minister's pay, a shelf of record guides and
books on recording techniques. Of course Carl made a beeline to the 50 or
so records stacked upright near our turntable. He picked up a Breakfast at
Tiffany's OST. "I love Mancini!" he said, studying the jacket. Then turning
the record over in his hands, Carl sniffed it. "Oh vinyl. Nothing smells
like vinyl. I grew up with it. It smells like my dad. I can't wait to have
my own house so I can start buying vinyl again."

Mimi




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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) weekend in Cleveland, part one
Date: 05 Jul 1999 12:12:10 -0400


It was a pretty easy six hour drive to Cleveland.  We left on Canada's
birthday and were planning to come back on America's.
I wish there was some irony there but in comparison to the others I
experienced that weekend, that one fades to a footnote.
First thing we got there, my friend's wife asked what we were doing there
and why my buddy and I were apparently staying with them for three nights.
It had all been cleared with her of course.  This is not a guy who makes a
move without her approval.  But still, the ritual had to be observed.
Luckily I knew there was no problem.  My friend had told me many times
"You're the only friend of mine that my wife has ever approved of".
I went out on the porch for a smoke.  My friend - let's call him Herb -
followed me out with a pile of records for my approval.
Sure enough, there were the records he'd told me about the last time we'd
talked.  Two copies of Esquivel's "Infinity in Sound", one pretty beat up
but still..
I had this record myself but I was also there shopping for a friend and his
used record store.  "We could probably get ten bucks even for the beat up
one", I thought to myself.
Esquivel's "Four Corners".  That was for me.  Sid Bass "With Bells On".
Had it but still, a cool record.  An Art Van Damme ten inch.  Cool cover.
Sandy Nelson "Teenage House Party".  Great cover photo.  T-Bones "Boss Drag
at the Beach".  I love the T-Bones but there was a guy came to the store
who paid big money for drag-racing covers.
"Al Hirt meets The Green Hornet".  That one's for me!  I'm not a big Al
Hirt fan but there the two of them are, on the cover and I don't have any
versions of this theme.  Let alone the theme for "Run Buddy Run".
So far so good.
Then we go inside and I start to look at his records.  That's when the
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) weekend in Cleveland, part two
Date: 05 Jul 1999 12:12:12 -0400


My friend Herb is a big big jazz fanatic.  He reviews for various papers
and has been doing that for years.  Used to write for the Village Voice and
Downbeat, still does maybe.  What he likes to do is make discoveries and
connections no one else has made before.  Find an old "hot jazz" record
where a guy is playing bebop before bebop supposedly began.  And he's done
it.  And been acknowledged for it.
For about ten years or so, before I rediscovered lounge, I was a bit of a
jazz snob and considered all this stuff - which is now pretty well the
centre of my taste - as at best, guilty pleasures and at worst, pure dreck.
So I walk into Herb's house and we go check out the basement.  There's
records and books everywhere, in piles, on shelves, threatening to fall
over at any moment and in no discernible order.
As I try to get my bearings, I spy a very cool cover.  "Music for a Jet
Age" or something like that.  With a cheesecake babe in an astronaut's
outfit.  I examine it excitedly and it's not only spacey and cheesy
looking.  It's Dave Pike!
I turn it over looking to see if anyone's playing electric sitar.  No.  But
Herbie Hancock is playing organ.  I show it to Herb.  "I'll take this one".
 He shakes his head and takes it back from me.
"That's a good jazz record", he informs me.
We go back upstairs.  First thing I find up there is a pile of Marty Gold
records.  A few of the regular ones.  I'll take them for the store but it's
no big deal.  Then I see this one I've never seen before "Marty Gold Swings
Out West".  Looks to be covering country and western tunes but still, I can
imagine it's a good one.
I put it on the little pile I've started to make.  We're not going to go
through his house for a couple of days yet but after seeing the basement, I
decide that it's good to make a start on the process.
Herb picks up the record and examines it.  "Don't be so sure about this
one".
"What?" I exclaim.  "It's Marty Gold".
And Herb replies with the words that will come to define this weekend.
"There might be some jazz solos on there".
I shake my head in disgust, figuring I'll get it from him in the end and
move on.
Then I spy it.  A record I've been looking for.  Last time I asked a dealer
at the record show about it,  he told me I was the tenth guy to ask him
that day and if he ever had it again, it would be forty five bucks.
"The Party".  The Mancini soundtrack.  I would never pay forty five for it.
 Or twenty five.  Probably not even fifteen.  But here it was and the
records were a buck at most.
I try to contain my delight as I examine it.
Herb sees me and shakes his head again.
What???
"That's a jazz record", he says.
"It's just Mancini", I protest.  "A soundtrack.  If that's not lounge, I
don't know what is".
He turns it over.  "Look who's on it.  Plas Johnson, Jack Sheldon, Ray
Brown.  It's a jazz record".
"They're on half the record made in Los Angeles at the time", I tell him.
"So?", he replies.
"You're the guy who thinks Dave Brubeck barely qualifies as jazz."
"Barely yeah, but it's still jazz".
"If you're going to call it jazz, everytime a sometime jazz musician shows
up, we're going to have a real hard time finding lounge records".
"Maybe I have a spare", is the only consolation he can give me.

As it turned out, he did.  But that was not typical of the weekend's
experience.

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Subject: (exotica) weekend in Cleveland :intro
Date: 05 Jul 1999 12:12:06 -0400


My friend in Cleveland had been phoning me for at least a year and telling
me that Cleveland was rife with lounge.  The records were cheap and nobody
was buying them.  He himself had started to pick them up for me after I had
amazed him with the knowledge that these records now had value to some
people.  His basement was now full of them.  He read off a couple of names,
things that he'd got when the records were three dollars a bag.  Esquivel
was one of the names.
If I came down, he'd take me to all the stores and sell me all these
records languishing in his basement.  If I gave him a quarter each for
these records, I'd be doing him a favor.
"Doing him a favor" echoed in my head as the weekend wore on.

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) album covers on the net
Date: 05 Jul 1999 12:53:31 -0400


>I wonder if anyone else here who has album covers or other scanned art on
>their sites has been able to get permission to use this copyrighted material.
>The gist of it is...no matter what the notification is, anything you didn't
>create you don't have rights to reproduce for public consumption.

Byron, I'm not sure what scans you had on your site--but I think you may be
being overcautious about this.

It's true that under the "new" US copyright law (post-1978), protection is
automatic and lasts a gazillion years. Same thing for all you people out
there in Berne Convention countries. But in the US, a lot of album art
would be covered under the "old" laws.

some links:

http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/

http://www.benedict.com/

http://lcweb.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ15a.pdf  [27K]


First of all, I think before 1978 the cover art would only be protected if
the jacket actually had a copyright notice printed on it ("Copyright 1957
RCA," or whatever). A quick check of my records only shows the notice on
about half of them.

The next thing is that for works published before 1964, the record label
would have needed to re-register with the copyright office, to renew
protection beyond the original term of 28 years. If not actively renewed,
all pre-1964 works would have entered public domain by 1992. For labels
that don't even exist any more, I would be willing to gamble that no one
ever bothered to do this. (Renewal is automatic for stuff after '64.)

As far as "being in big trouble," it seems unlikely to me that anyone would
START by sueing you for damages--even if they noticed or cared. More likely
their lawyers would send you a cease-and-desist letter first. Also it would
be very hard to prove actual damages, since in general we are talking about
records where there isn't a reissue available which would be making the
copyright-holders any money.


Now in a more general sense, there is a question of whether traditional
copyright laws will be able to survive in the digital age--where
essentially everyone becomes a lawbreaker. . .  But even on the more
narrow question, I think posting some cover scans is probably legal for
many pre-1964 records.

yours legalistically,

 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in Cleveland, part two
Date: 05 Jul 1999 12:12:28 -0400


Aargh, Nat . . . I can't take any more of this.  How did it end!  I leave
for Australia
in 48 hours, and better have the rest of the story by then, or you're in
big trouble, buddy.

Will

Will Straw
Associate Professor and Director,
Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obits] Dennis Brown,
Date: 05 Jul 1999 19:35:35 +0200



>                           *Dennis Brown
> KINGSTON, Jamaica (AP) -- Dennis Brown, a former child star who became
>known as the Crown Prince of Reggae, died Thursday. He was 42.
> Brown rose to prominence amid a 1970s wave of reggae singers that included
>Bob Marley, who introduced reggae music to listeners worldwide. He released
>a string of hit songs beginning with ``No Man is an Island,'' which he
>recorded in 1969 at the age of 12.
> The singer's most fruitful period came later, when he produced hits
>including ``Westbound Train,'' ``How Could I Leave,'' and ``Ghetto Girl.''
> He earned a Grammy nomination in 1995 for his album Light My Fire.

Sheesh, who's next?  Don't care for his post 80s loversrock (always been
more partial to Gregory Isaacs) at all but his seventies output is high
quality throughout. Of the handfull of albums I own by him, his debut "No
Man is an Island" is a typical Studio One album of that period, lightweight
in songs but rich in singing. It boasts a cover of Raindrops Keep Falling on
My Head inicidentally. "Super Reggae & Soul Hits" on Trojan from a few years
later is excellent, a nice version of Wichita Lineman amongst others.
"Cassandra", cut for producer Niney, must be my favorite song of him., it
just has an infective bouncy rhythm.


Arjan



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro Lounge
Date: 05 Jul 1999 14:34:16 EDT


In a message dated 6/29/99 8:54:16 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Oh, I bought it from some dude on Ebay and it was a cut-out.  What do you
 think of that??? >>

What you bought was a promotional copy, believe me no record company is
stupid enough to cut out a record they have just released.

Ashley


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 05 Jul 1999 16:31:03 EDT


In a message dated 7/5/99 7:58:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I was once issued what amounted to a "restraining order" not to come within
 a hundred yards - or was it feet? - of either Scott Baio or his father.

 True story.  As we say in show biz.

 And no I wasn't stalking him.  Nattie never loved Chachi.
  >>

We need details ! ! ! ! ! !


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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: talent / variety shows
Date: 05 Jul 1999 15:51:18 +0000


This thread dredged up a favorite childhood memory  of mine --
watching "Danger Room", a wonderfully shlocky local TV show on
KENS-TV in San Antonio, TX.

After a suitably Les Baxter-ish opening theme, the camera would
dissolve to a cheesy set crowded with huge tikis, potted palms,
African spears and other exotic paraphernalia.  There, in an enormous
wicker chair, sat one Colonel Hawk -- one of the TV station
announcers decked out in safari jacket, bush hat, fake goatee and eye
patch. In a phony British accent, the Colonel introduced daily
chapters from old Republic serials like "Radar Men from the Men",
"Panther Girl of the Congo" and "Zombies of the Stratosphere".

Between chapters the Colonel related important bits of jungle lore --
like how to save yourself if you're ever trapped in quicksand.  For
years I roamed the neighborhood hoping to fall into quicksand just so
I could put the Colonel's advice to good use!  Oh, well.

A bit off-topic perhaps, but I never hear "Quiet Village" without
thinking of the old Colonel.

Darrell Brogdon
[e-mail]
The Retro Cocktail Hour
KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
Visit The Retro Cocktail Hour at:
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro Lounge
Date: 05 Jul 1999 16:54:36 EDT


In a message dated 7/5/99 11:34:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, LTepedino writes:

<< In a message dated 6/29/99 8:54:16 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

 << Oh, I bought it from some dude on Ebay and it was a cut-out.  What do you
  think of that??? >>

 What you bought was a promotional copy, believe me no record company is
stupid enough to cut out a record they have just released.

 Ashley >>

Sorry for my poor choice of words.  I realized that this was a promo.  I just
lumped it in the "cut out" category (mistakenly) because it has the little
cut out area.  I also bought a Combustible Edison Comp that was done the same
way.

I guess these people are just selling their promos.

Tiki Bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bar
Date: 05 Jul 1999 17:08:13 EDT


Michele asked me to pass along this site that has a good deal on an authentic
tiki bar.

It is as www.pineapplehead.com and is listed for $950.00

It can be viewed directly at:

http://www.pineapplehead.com/images/50'srttnbr.jpg

Any questions please send them to [e-mail].

She is taking an Exotica List break and assures her return is predicted in
the tea leaves.

Tiki Bob


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) album covers on the net
Date: 05 Jul 1999 23:41:25 +0200


Byron & Ross Orr wrote:

> >I wonder if anyone else here who has album covers or other scanned art=
 on
> >their sites has been able to get permission to use this copyrighted ma=
terial.
> >The gist of it is...no matter what the notification is, anything you d=
idn't
> >create you don't have rights to reproduce for public consumption.
>
> As far as "being in big trouble," it seems unlikely to me that anyone w=
ould
> START by sueing you for damages--even if they noticed or cared. More li=
kely
> their lawyers would send you a cease-and-desist letter first. Also it w=
ould
> be very hard to prove actual damages, since in general we are talking a=
bout
> records where there isn't a reissue available which would be making the
> copyright-holders any money.

And even if there is a reissue, it doesn't make more sense to sue someone=
 who
publishes a record cover, because he's a fan of the record. All web-sites=
 that I
know function as promotion for records and don't make money with their we=
bsite.
Sueing them would be contraproductive from the point of view of the right=
 owners,
not to speak of the bad image they would gain by doing so.

Those "fan" web-sites should be paid for the work they do.

-Mo

=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=
=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=
=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95=95
http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/mastermoritzr4.html
(violating the copyright of the Kopyright Liberation Front)




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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Jill's Dress au-go-go
Date: 05 Jul 1999 22:24:54 EDT



In a message dated 6/30/99 4:29:19 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Dom, Jane is getting fashion advice on another list that she is on.

I personally lobbied Ms Fondle to instruct her band to don Michael Bolton
tee-shirts while they ply their trade. Her reply is unprintable EVEN in this
medium..Jimmy/whose wife went to high school with Michael Bloton (now known
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) weekend in cleveland part five
Date: 06 Jul 1999 02:48:52 -0400


Next we hit the highway and got out of town.  We were going to hit every
branch of this one Cleveland store.  "CD exchange" or something like that
with eight or so branches.
Actually it was two different stores. The store had once been owned by two
brothers but they fell out and took a few branches each.  Not that you
could tell.  They all looked the same, all had the same Dan Fogelberg
records.  But each branch had slightly different pricing policies.
Sometimes they were all a quarter.  One guy looked at the Temptations
record and demanded fifty cents but let a Curtis Mayfield and a McCoy Tyner
go for a quarter.  And one guy just let me have the pile of ten records for
free, as if he couldn't even bother with the vinyl.
It was hot as hell and up until the end, I looked through a lot of crappy
records for little payoff.  And as I drove, I kept slipping in the snide
comments, trying to soften up Herb for the next day at his house.
There were a couple more Goodwills, with one memorable one that priced the
records individually, asking three and four dollars for records that
someone for some reason thought valuable.
It's amazing how much outrage you can summon up when someone asks for three
dollars for a record.  Especially at a Goodwill store.  Especially for a
record you've seen before.
At the last CD exchange branch, I did score a bit.  Thirty six records for
a quarter each.  Herb had promised me that this was always the best branch
and he was right.  I could have saved a lot of sweat and just gone there
but then I wouldn't have driven through "the belly of the beast" as Herb
called it, and seen all those rotting steel mills.
Which I like too for some reason.

That night I slept a bit better.  I also had a caesar salad with oil and
vinegar dressing.  I thought it was a Cleveland thing but the waitress told
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) weekend in cleveland part four
Date: 06 Jul 1999 02:48:49 -0400


That first night, trying to sleep in Herb's house, was rather harrowing.
First of all, I hate futons.  I guess it's possible if you're the first
person ever to sleep on a futon that it might mold itself to your body.
But if you're the second person, you're shit out of luck.
Second of all, I had to pee a lot.  But I didn't want to deal with the one
washroom upstairs.  For lots of reasons.  All leading somehow back to
Herb's wife.
So every half hour I had to go outside.  Where I'd have a smoke for the
hell of it.
And finally, this "room" I was staying in, like all rooms in the house, was
full of great records.  Great records I wouldn't get to take.  Like this
other Dave Pike record with some kind of title like "Dave visits the third
dimension".
A record made for me.  A record made to taunt me.
I didn't so much fall asleep as eventually pass out.  Two hours later it
was light and finding Herb outside on the porch, I began my campaign to
free up as many of these so-called "jazz records" as possible.
But on this day, we were going to hit the record stores of Cleveland.  We
were also going to try and squeeze in a tour of "urban decay highlights".
The guy I came down with was a particular fan of abandoned steel mills and
other signs of industrial waste. Cleveland was the perfect place for him.
First place we went was some kind of Sally Ann store.  Herb warned me there
wasn't much there and the records were a bit expensive at a buck.  But he
had done a little reconnaisance and put away a few for me.
I picked up the records Herb had cached away.  I remember a Jack Jones but
not much else.  I also picked up that album of Xavier Cugat Rhumba 78's
that I'd once seen at a friend's house and always wanted, mostly for the
cover.  Four 78's, four bucks.
Next up was a Goodwill store.  It was supposed to have thousands of records
but they'd just changed their policy and only had about a hundred.
I only found one that I wanted.  But what a one.
George Cates "Polynesian Percussion".  Never seen it before, only heard
about it on this list.  And having returned home and played side one, I
have to agree with the assessment.  A true exotica classic.

(Is anybody still reading this?  What do I care?  Will wants to read it,
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) weekend in cleveland part six (of eight?)
Date: 06 Jul 1999 02:48:55 -0400


The next day, Saturday, I was supposed to do Herb's house. But first there
was one more place I needed to go.
"Herb, what about that Records place you told me about?"
Herb made a face and groaned.
"I can't take you there".
"What do you mean?  You've been telling me about that place for four years".
"I'll tell you how to get there.  But I can't go with you and wait while
you go through all those records".
Herb had told me about this place since I first met him.  An old guy.  An
old store.  Records piled everywhere.  A buck each.  The guy has no idea
what he has.  You just have to look.
And the name of the place:  "Records".
"You start going through that guy's place", Herb complained, "and you'll
never get back here".
I promised to be back by the afternoon and not to spend too much money.
I'd have plenty left to buy Herb's records, I assured him.
It was so hot that by the time I got there, I didn't mind that it was
locked up.  All I cared about was getting a picture of the place.
It was better than my wildest fantasy.  In the middle of nowhere.  A small
wooden house with faded green paint.  And nailed above the door, a wooden
sign with the word "Records" painted on it.
I have to get a website just to put a picture of that place up on it.
There was a sign on the door with the address of two other locations.  They
were both around the corner so what the hell.  Herb told me that the old
guy only came in when he wanted to but maybe he just decided to go to the
other places today.
First place we looked, he was there.
This time a brown wooden shack with a slightly smaller wooden sign.
I bought forty records for a buck each and it took me about fifteen minutes
to find them.  The place was had about eight shelves, floor to ceiling, in
a space of about 150 square feet.  Plus some stuff on the floor.
To find those forty records, I only looked at half of one shelf.
It was a bit like going to a store and placing your order in order to fill
out your collection.  You want Command records?  There they are, six feet
of them.
He didn't have every single one but he had a few that I didn't have and a
few I'd never heard of.
It was more "lounge" than "exotica" but still it was easy pickings.
I should add that I mostly was picking up the Command stuff for my friend's
store.  I sort of figured I had most of the Commands I wanted.
Which is why I'm now kicking myself.
I gave my friend both of the "Dimension Three" records I found.
We played them first off today.
And damnit if that "third speaker in the middle" thing doesn't work.  Like
a charm. It's one of the best audio tricks I've ever heard.
And to add insult to injury, most of the time that middle speaker is
playing these absolutely wacked-out Dick Hyman organ parts.
I'm going to have to get that record back.  The best Command thing I've
heard in ages.

Anyway, when I got back to Harvey's and told him about what happened, he
told me that I'd only scratched the surface.
The guy also had a warehouse.  Ten times bigger than the store I'd been in.

I just hope I get there again before one of you guys on the list goes and
cleans it out.

parts seven and eight - "Herb's house" - later maybe...

But have you ever heard this record by Phil Moore "Fantasy for Girl and
Orchestra"?  I had to fight for that one.



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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Morning arrivals
Date: 06 Jul 1999 09:36:19 +0100


What a satisfying morning it is when some nice pieces of vinyl arrive at
one's door!

This morning I received:

Mannix soundtrack - Lalo Schifrin
De Sade soundtrack - Bill Strange
Gatur soundtrack - Charles Bernstein & Leroy Holmes
Beautiful Love - Jane Birkin and Serge Gainsbourg

All LPs which I can't play until I'm back at work this evening.

Charlie

PS. I know I keep asking but does anybody know where 'Ripped Open By Metal
Explosions' by Galt Macdermot comes from? Thanks.





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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Spike Jones
Date: 06 Jul 1999 14:35:58 +0100


Just picked up a copy of Spike Jones "Fun In Hi-Fi" EP. The liner
notes by Dimitri Tiomkin suggest that this be used for demonstrating
high fidelity equipment... oh yes! A list of instruments used is
given. Liked this one so much, I'm going to type it out below.

Damn, I'm looking forward to getting home. I got a whole armload of
cheapo singles/EPs today. Seems like I'm having more joy in charity
shops recently by leafing through the 45s; they don't seem to be as
much picked over.

* Spike Jones' Legitimate Instruments heard on this record.

Space Ship Landing
Glugs
Pbrts
Skks
Assorted Sneezes
Snore
Bird (Un-Feathered kind)
Whistle
38 Calibre Pistol
Burpaphone
Kissing Trumpet
Ratchet
Trombone Fonk
1911 Blackhawk Stutz
Airplane dropping bomb in river
Living Coo-Coo
Birds (Feathered Kind)
Tweets for your Tweeter
Dying Coo-Coo
Champagne cork popping
Poontangaphone
Brick through window
Klaxon
Electric Auto Horn
Police Whistle
Cough
Emptying Wash-Tub full of cowbells and assorted Kitchen Utensils
Two Bulb Horns
Slide Whistle
Clinking Bottles (hard and soft drinks)
Anvil




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Subject: (exotica) [obits] Guy Mitchell,John Stears,Xavier Gelin,Mark
Date: 06 Jul 1999 10:14:52 -0500


                           *Guy Mitchell
    LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Guy Mitchell, a country-pop artist from the 1950s whose
recordings of ``Singing the Blues'' and ``Heartaches by the Number''
skyrocketed to the top of the charts and became standards of the era, died
Thursday. He was 72.
    He also appeared in movies, on Las Vegas stages and had his own television
show in the late 1950s.
    In 1950, after Frank Sinatra declined to record ``My Heart Cries For You,''
famed band leader Mitch Miller offered it to Mitchell and he not only had a
million-seller with that Columbia Records recording, but another
million-seller with the B-side of that record, ``The Roving Kind.''
    It launched a career that made Mitchell a household name in the '50s. He
followed it up with ``My Truly Truly Fair,'' in 1952. He would go on to have
16 million-selling recordings.
    In 1953, Mitchell starred with Rhonda Fleming in the movie ``Those Redheads
From Seattle,'' and a year later starred with Rosemary Clooney in ``Red
Garters.'' From 1957-58 Mitchell starred on television in ``The Guy Mitchell
Show'' and appeared on all the major TV shows of that era.
    In 1957, he released the No. 1 recording of ``Singing the Blues,'' and a
year later topped the charts again with ``Heartaches by the Number.''
    LAS VEGAS, Nev., July 5 (UPI) -- Novelty song hit-maker Guy Mitchell has
died at Desert Hot Springs Hospital in Las Vegas. He was 72.
    Mitchell died of complications from surgery on Thursday. His wife revealed
the death today.
    Between 1950 and 1960, Mitchell had nearly 40 hit records, most of them
novelties, folk tunes and country songs. In 1956, Mitchell's cover of Marty
Robbins' country hit ``Singing the Blues'' was the No. 1 pop single for 10
weeks.
    When Frank Sinatra refused to record two songs for Columbia Records in 1949
while the band was waiting in the studio, producer Mitch Miller called in
Mitchell as a last-minute substitute.
    Those two songs were ``My Heart Cries for You'' and ``The Roving Kind,''
which became back-to-back Top 5 hits.

    LOS ANGELES, July 5 (UPI) -- Motion picture special-effects wizard John
Stears has died at UCLA Medical Center. He was 64.
    The man who created R2-D2, the lovable ``droid'' of ``Star Wars'' fame, and
the deadly Aston Martin car used by James Bond in the 1960s fell victim to a
stroke on April 28.
    Friends revealed the death only today, saying they wanted to keep the news
quiet until after services were held in May in Pacific Palisades and London.
    Stears, a Briton, had homes in Pacific Palisades and Beaconsfield, England.
    He earned an Oscar in 1965 for ``Thunderball,'' which starred Sean Connery
and featured an underwater battle scene. He also shared an Academy Award in
1977 for his work on ``Star Wars.''

                           *Xavier Gelin
    PARIS (AP) -- Xavier Gelin, a French actor and a mainstay of popular French
cinema for more than three decades, died Friday of cancer. He was 53.
    Gelin was the son of French film stars Daniel Gelin and Daniele Delorme.
    He played supporting roles in more than 20 films, including Gerard Oury's
1973 comic hit ``The Adventures of Rabbi Jacob'' with Louis de Funes.
    He also starred in Claude Lelouche's ``Adventure, It's Adventure'' and
``The Devil by the Tail'' by Philippe de Broca.
    Other hits include Claude Pinoteau's ``The Slap'' and ``The Party-2'' and
``A Simple Story,'' directed by Claude Sautet.

                           *Mark Sandman
    ROME (AP) -- Mark Sandman, the lead singer of the Boston rock band
Morphine, died Saturday of a heart attack at a concert outside Rome. He was 46.
    Sandman collapsed on stage in front of several thousand spectators at a
music festival just before midnight. He was not known to have a heart
condition or any other major health problems.
    Sandman, known for his deep, murky baritone, played bass and wrote all of
Morphine's songs. Morphine is a guitar-less trio that includes Dana Colley
on saxophone and Billy Conway on drums.
    The group started out playing loft parties and bars around Boston and
Cambridge, Mass., in the early 1990s and built a solid cult following.
Morphine released five albums: ``Good,'' ``Cure for Pain,'' ``Yes,'' ``Like
Swimming'' and ``B-Side.''
    Morphine has gotten heavy airplay on college radio, and its songs have
appeared on soundtracks for the films ``Get Shorty,'' ``Beautiful Girls''
and ``Postcards From America,'' as well as on the TV series ``Homicide: Life
on the Street.''

Victor A. Bonomo died at the age of 100 on June 26 in Bal Harbour, Florida.
He created and marketed Bonomo's Turkish Taffy, the brittle candy bar whose
wrapper instructed buyers to smack it and crack it into many edible pieces.

Forest Mars AGE 95

Victor Bonomo age 100.

Who said candy is bad for your health?




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Subject: (exotica) [music news] Jimmie Davis,Pat Boone
Date: 06 Jul 1999 10:57:48 -0500


    BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) -- The 20th century hasn't been all sunshine for
Jimmie Davis, but as the singer, songwriter and former segregationist
governor approaches his 100th birthday, sunshine is what he's best known for.
    After a lifetime of hit tunes, movies and politics, the simple song ``You
Are My Sunshine'' is Davis' best known legacy.
    ``There are a lot worse things to leave behind,'' says Davis, due to
celebrate his 100th birthday Sept. 11. ``I'm glad to claim it as mine.''
    Almost 60 years since Davis first recorded the song, people send it to him
in music boxes, he hears it on answering machines and he can find it in more
than 300 versions and 50 languages.
    ``Along with 'Happy Birthday,' it's the most valuable music copyright
ever,'' says Kevin Fontenot, a doctoral candidate at Tulane University, who
is writing a book about Davis.
    For a man who left so many marks on the century, the century has left
relatively little mark on Davis. He uses a walker now but every morning
still dons a freshly starched dress shirt and tie. He performs several times
a year, works in his home office daily and monitors his royalties.
    ``I came up expecting to work hard for everything I got, and I never saw
anything that persuaded me that wasn't true,'' Davis says.
    The son of a sharecropper, Davis was the oldest of 11 children raised in a
two-room house. By age 7, he was plowing behind the family mule and picking
cotton. The hard work and lean living taught values Davis says he still has.
    ``The first Christmas present I ever got was a dried hog's bladder and a
plucked blackbird,'' he says. ``We ate the blackbird and played ball with
the bladder, and I thought we were pretty well off.''
    Davis began his professional singing career at Louisiana College --
crooning on street corners. After graduation, the money he earned singing,
even when added to his teacher's pay, wasn't enough to pay off school debts.
For a steady salary, he entered politics -- first as clerk of court in
Shreveport, then the state Public Service Commission.
    By the time he was elected governor in 1943, Davis was already becoming
famous in music and films, playing the singing cowboy in a number of horse
operas. But politics did not flow as sweetly through Davis' life as his music.
    Davis served two terms as Louisiana governor -- 1944-48 and 1960-64. In his
first term, he set a record for absenteeism, traveling frequently to
Hollywood to further his movie career.
    ``I should have done more movies,'' Davis says with an air of defiance. ``I
turned down a chance to make millions to take a job that paid $1,000 a month.''
    In 1959, Davis ran on a ``Peace and Harmony'' platform but was unable to
deliver either in those turbulent times.
    ``I am unqualifiedly in favor of segregation,'' Davis wrote in a campaign
pamphlet. ``The best way to maintain our historic way of life, as well as
harmonious relations between the races, is to provide separate and equal
facilities.''
    As governor, Davis called five straight special legislative sessions to
resist federal desegregation orders and, when the courts prevailed, set up
grants to aid private school pupils.
    His views reflected those of most whites at the time, says historian
Michael Kurtz, dean of the graduate school at Southeastern Louisiana: ``On
the whole, he was a middle-of-the-road individual who supported keeping the
status quo. He didn't want to rock the boat.''
    But when things changed, Kurtz adds, so did Davis. Under Davis, Louisiana
strengthened its schools, instituted teacher pensions, invested idle state
funds and took early environmental action.
    He made a halfhearted bid for a third term in 1971. One of 19 candidates,
he lost.
    ``It was the best thing that ever happened to me,'' Davis insists. ``It was
after that I got to do what I really wanted -- sing, perform, live my life.''
    Davis is a member of the Country Music Hall of Fame, the Gospel Music Hall
of Fame and the Louisiana Hall of Fame.
    He started off singing blues. Early on, he worked with two black sidemen.
In the 1930s, he had an integrated band, practically unheard of then.
    ``He was really ahead of his time in appreciating the blues,'' Fontenot
says. ``And when you listen to those records, he's one of the
blackest-sounding white men I've ever heard.''
    But it was the sad, nostalgic songs, first called hillbilly, later
country-western, that Davis became known for. His rich voice spun out
ballads about lost love, lost times and unforgotten dreams.
    By 1929 Davis was recording for RCA Victor and singing at any juke joint
that would pay. He says his parents ``worried because I wasn't making steady
money. I had a song I really liked, and I promised them that if it didn't
make it, I'd give it up.''
    ``Nobody's Darling But Mine'' was his first big hit. Since then, by his own
count, Davis has written better than 400 tunes and recorded more than 60
albums.
    Davis first recorded ``You Are My Sunshine'' in 1931 but was so unhappy
with the studio band that he refused to release it. Eight years passed
before he recorded it again. It became a smash hit that eventually sold
millions.
    Recorded by dozens of artists from Bing Crosby to Gene Autry, ``You Are My
Sunshine'' was a favorite of King George VI. It was played on Armed Forces
Radio during World War II, and GIs landing in Japan found it already a
favorite there.
    Davis says he has recorded ``Sunshine'' dozens of times, just last year
with a children's choir. Others have tried to lay claim to the song. There's
no question he wrote the lyrics, but Fontenot says there's some debate
whether he was solely responsible for the tune.
    ``That's still the million-dollar question,'' Fontenot says. ``The tune may
have had its roots in traditional folk songs, but there's no question now
that it's Jimmie Davis' song. He owns the copyright.''

    HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. (AP) -- Singer Pat Boone said he loves appearing
at Fourth of July parades because it gives him a chance to sing ``Happy
Birthday'' to the United States.
    ``I feel like a human roman candle or firecracker,'' the 65-year-old
performer said Sunday, waving the tassle-covered sleeves of his red, white
and blue jumpsuit as he broke into song: ``Happy Birthday to you! Happy
Birthday to you! Happy Birthday, dear America. We thank God for you!''
    Boone was the grand marshal at the 95th annual Huntington Beach parade, one
of the oldest Independence Day celebrations in Southern California.
    The entertainer said his new video album ``American Glory'' will feature
only patriotic songs because be believes American melodies promote respect
for the country and good behavior.
    ``We need something like this in every American home,'' he said. ``If we
don't sing those songs, and if our kids don't learn them, we're going to
lose them all.''





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Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in cleveland part six (of eight?)
Date: 06 Jul 1999 08:04:51 -0700 (PDT)



>
> But have you ever heard this record by Phil Moore
> "Fantasy for Girl and
> Orchestra"?  I had to fight for that one.
>

Worth fighting for!
It┤s good "serious" music, with a cool cover!
Magnus Sandberg has always been rawing about how good
Phil Moores record are and it was at his home I heard
it.

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Date: 06 Jul 1999 11:50:18 -0400




Worth fighting for!
It?s good "serious" music, with a cool cover!
Magnus Sandberg has always been rawing about how good
Phil Moores record are and it was at his home I heard
it.

>>>Well, we all love it when Maggy "raws" about something...;0

Nat, I want to thank you for posting this, especially, I think, Part One.
I have long hoped "serious jazzbos" would see some legitimacy in West Coast
jazz.  I don't want to start a Battle Royale ova' here, but I don't see the
harm in mixing in Shelley Manne and Shorty Rogers with Art Blakey and
Charles Mingus on straight ahead jazz shows!  Hell, even throw in THE BLUES
AND THE BEAT or JUNGLE JAZZ for good measure.    I have shown some of my
"exotica" jazz rekkids to jazzbos, who have tossed them off with a laugh!
But when THE PARTY is now taken seriously as a "pure" jazz effort, then I
feel somehow legitamized!
Now, Nat, tell us about SCOTT BAIO!  OUCH!




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I can't believe nobody has mentioned SABADO GIGANTE...the marathon
Spanglish variety show, that goes on and on for like 12 horas!  People vie
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music.  The women are not allowed on the show unless they are at least a
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Subject: (exotica) New Sounds with John Schaefer
Date: 06 Jul 1999 13:16:46 -0500


One of the best radio shows in NY, WNYC-FM's New Sounds, is now being
archived at their web site. Check out this URL for playlists:
http://wnyc.org/musicculture/newsounds/playlists/index.html

To hear RealAudio G2 streams of selected shows, check out:
http://www.wnyc.org/musicculture/newsounds/nsaudio/index.html

And I hear WNYC plans to start archiving David Garland's Spinning On Air
show starting in August! I can't say enough about this show -- once
available it will become a required listening experience for y'all, trust me.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: talent / variety shows
Date: 06 Jul 1999 12:40:06 -0500 (CDT)




On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 [e-mail] wrote:

>
> I can't believe nobody has mentioned SABADO GIGANTE...the marathon
> Spanglish variety show, that goes on and on for like 12 horas!  People vie
> for prizes, wearing gaudy costumes and singing Casio-backed weak Latin
> music.  The women are not allowed on the show unless they are at least a
> D-cup, etc..Ahh...the life of Don Francisco!-jane fondle

I did, I did, I did!

Don't forget the Dancing Quaker Oats.


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Subject: (exotica) THE #13 ISSUE OF COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE IS HERE!!
Date: 06 Jul 1999 11:42:14 -0600


#13 Issue of COOL AND STRANGE MUSIC MAGAZINE is HERE!!!

WE'VE PUMPED UP OUR NEWEST ISSUE TO A WHOPPING 64 PAGES - EIGHT OF 'EM IN
BLAZING COLOR!

Our newest issue is packed with new, informative articles on the coolest and
strangest music you never thought you'd hear about, and features a cool
4-color cover, lots of high-quality photos, tons of new wacky and weird CD
reviews and it's more fun than ever!

Also, have a look at our updated Web Page at www.coolandstrange.com for some
tres cool goodies and fun stuff!

The new issue features:

ALVINO REY
A cover story about ALVINO REY, pioneering big band leader, session player
extraordinare (Esquivel, countless others), and father of the steel pedal
guitar. Rey is a direct link to the big band era, started playing banjo and
guitar in the '20s, and later helped pioneer the creation of the steel pedal
guitar. With a career that spans over nine decades.....let us say that
again...NINE DECADES, he's still playing music at age 94!!! Frank M. Young
interviewed Mr. Rey exclusively for our magazine and even if you're not
familiar with his music, you'll find this article fascinating.

HANNA-BARBERA RECORDS
At the top of the list of rare children's records, among the rarest and most
collectible are HANNA-BARBERA RECORDS. The people who brought you Huckleberry
Hound and Yogi Bear, also sidelined in making some of the coolest kid's
records ever. Commanding high prices now, these ultra-rare discs are the
subject of Timothy Friend's fun article.

IAN WHITCOMB
An interview with IAN WHITCOMB, pop music historian, ragtime expert, ukulele
plunker and former teen idol tells us all about his fascnating musical
career. Beside his mid-'60s pop hit YOU TURN ME ON, he was also Mae West's
record producer, and has worked with many famous and talented people. One of
the music biz's truly nice guys, B.A. Nilsson's interview with Whitcomb sheds
some light on Mr. Whitcomb's unique and delightfully eccentric talents.

FLORIDA RECORD STORE REPORT
Take a tour though some of the coolest and strangest record stores in
FLORIDA, in Bill Bartling's FLORIDA RECORD STORE REPORT. Find the coolest,
strangest and cheapest records in our nations' most southeastern state!

CLAUDINE LONGET
Writer Curtis Cottrell gives insight into pop music's long-overlooked
American-French Pop Waif, with his article on Claudine Longet. After years of
musical neglect, her recordings are now coming into vogue with her EZ
Listening-kitchy pop sensibilities. Find out the scoop behind the scenes
about her life with former husband Andy Williams, her accidental (?) shooting
of former boyfriend Spider Sabich, and much more. Discover why people are
just now picking up on Claudine's LPs after decades of non-interest.

THE ED KAZ KOLUMN
Ed's column this issue delves into the netherworld of that '70s panthenon of
pop, TRUCKING SONGS! Just a brief footnote in the fad-infested decade that
brought the American public Mood Rings, Puka Shell Necklaces and full-frontal
nudity in movies, the short interest in CB and Trucking songs spawned many
such-themed LPs, which Ed shines his humorous light on! 10-4, Big Buddy!

LINGERIE AND BIKINI LP COVERS CENTERFOLD
Our Color Centerfold is a spread of some of the sexiest covers ever,
featuring Ladies in Lingerie and Babes in Bikinis! Our readers have submitted
these eye-catching LP covers, and we're happy to show them off here, in a
brazen display of pure commercial sexism!

STAR WARS RECORDS
With the release of the newest in the series of George Lucas' Star Wars
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They were many, many LPs released with "Star Wars" connections unleashed on
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ED "MOOSE" SAVAGE
Regular contributor David Greenberg interviews our favorite new Cool and
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one-of-a-kind entertainer, performing without a band, just a drummer, in a
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haven't lived until you've heard Ed's song "Iceberg Lettuce," a hilarious,
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authentic and commercial) is a unique blend of America's favorite pasttime of
exploiting an idyllic lifestyle into both a tourist memento and a sub-species
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend in Cleveland - the movie..
Date: 06 Jul 1999 18:55:22 +0100


Nat - what a great story - can't wait to hear more.

And already I've done the casting for the movie:
Nat Kone - Robert Redford
Herb - John Ratzenburger (Cliff out of Cheers)
Herb's wife - Mary Steenburgen
Owner of  'Records' - Anthony Hopkins

Lounge Laura & Jill Mingo appear as themselves
(in a later part)(I hope)

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Subject: (exotica) free music in NYC
Date: 06 Jul 1999 14:03:28 -0500


Both Central Park (in Manhattan) and Prospect Park (in Brooklyn) host
summer-long music festivals.

The web site for the Central Park events is http://www.summerstage.com

One interesting show is set for 7/21 at 7:30PM:
Marianne Faithfull
Hal Willner's "Whoops, I'm An Indian" Review with Mocean Workers and M.Brumbach

"Faithfull's life story stamps her as a legend. Her voice, presence, lyrical
observation and craft are vital delineations of real lives amidst shadow and
light, the smoke and newsreel of the age. At Ms. Faithfull's request,
Willner, the legendary, visionary, knob-twiddling eccentric, raids his
record library with the help of turntablists Mocean Worker and M. Brumbach."



The web site for the Prospect Park shows is http://www.brooklyn.org/celebrate .
Two shows worth checking are:

Thrusday - 8/12 - 8pm
Buster Keaton stars in the 1928 silent film, Steamboat Bill, Jr. The
slapstick masterpiece is accompanied by the Alloy Orchestra, performing it's
original score live using homemade junk percussion and high-tech
electronics. Also, "Humdrum" is an animated short by Scottish director Peter
Peakes.

Saturday - August 14 - 7pm
The New York Pops, conducted by Skitch Henderson, features veteran
(song/poem) singer, Teri Thornton, winner of the 1998 Thelonious Monk
International Jazz Vocal Competition. Thornton, called "the greatest singer
since Ella Fitzgerald", makes her Celebrate Brooklyn! debut backed by the
77-piece full symphonic orchestra.

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Laurent Lombard  "Happyland"
Date: 06 Jul 1999 11:22:26 -0700 (PDT)



Just got in Happyland by Laurent Lombard on Kosinus Records, France (1999), Kosinus
also brought us Jean Jaque Perry's Good Moog and if you love that cd you'll also love
this one.  Gauranteed to brighten up those cloudy days!

This 74 minute long cd is commercial jingles, many danceable on the Ondioline with a
wild and zany percusssive background.  There are 99 tracks and one track contains an
added treat, the Sitar.  The first 33 tracks are the 2 minute plus commercial jingles
the next 66 are samples used in these jingles with some great little  10 second
snippets of melodies.  The 33  2 minute moogy pop commercial jingles are really great
pop melodies ala "The Commercials" on TV Toons.   This is a wild ride of tremendous
little jingles that would make perfect little breaks beween songs on your next moog
compilation mini disc.

Does any listee know about the Kosinus label?  It looks like it has 59 other
compilation albums with titles like "Jungle Jazz" and  "Summer Colors"  After listening
to Good Moog and Happyland I'm ready for more.   I got this cd reasonably priced from
the amazing and wonderful Jack Diamond.   You can read his review of this cd at
http://www.jackdiamond.com/moog_electronic_sitar.html

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend in Cleveland - the movie..
Date: 06 Jul 1999 19:26:18 +0100 (BST)


At 18:55 06/07/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Nat - what a great story - can't wait to hear more.
>
>And already I've done the casting for the movie:
>Nat Kone - Robert Redford
>Herb - John Ratzenburger (Cliff out of Cheers)
>Herb's wife - Mary Steenburgen
>Owner of  'Records' - Anthony Hopkins
>
>Lounge Laura & Jill Mingo appear as themselves
>(in a later part)(I hope)
>

Yes...but ours will be in the "x" rated version, naturally.

xxx Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) P5,  Keepin Shibuya-Kei Alive!
Date: 06 Jul 1999 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT)



With Sitar and exotic 60's sound of  "Paint It Black" mixed with  "I Am The Walrus"
plus 90s drumbeats and mid 70s guitar rides  the wild wonderful  3 minute intro to
"darlin of discotheque" , the first song on the similarly titled 30 minute, 5 song ep
ushers in  P5 newest shibuya-kei entry.   And what a song it is!  The OooooOooooOoooo's
  of Miss P5
ooozze in so gracefully to this darling darling darling modern dance tune.   The
aglomoration of style is something modern shibuya-kei fans have come to expect but P5
always puts their signature stamp on this style.  This is the song off of this ep.

The next songs keep up the quality of style and songsmith melodies P5 are famous for.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Barbie Dolls is typical P5, great all the way through very vey
danceable.

The next song,  tout tout pour ma cherie"  reminds me of Pet Clark's "Sign of the
Times" and samples Fantastic Plastic Machine I believe.  Jolly bubbly lovely"  is
strraight ahead modern great P5

If you are a P5 fan or shibuya-kei lover this ep wont let you down and the package is
another p5 marvel.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck

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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend in Cleveland - the movie..
Date: 06 Jul 1999 21:40:15 +0200


Jill Mingo wrote:

> >Lounge Laura & Jill Mingo appear as themselves
> >(in a later part)(I hope)
> >
>
> Yes...but ours will be in the "x" rated version, naturally.

Does that mean that Tinky Winky will appear too?

Marco

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Subject: (exotica) Bar d'O ALERT!!!!!
Date: 06 Jul 1999 14:55:15 -0400


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>>>From our Jack Fetterman-Jane Fondle

Dear friends,

Apologies for the redundancy, but I would like to take this
opportunity to remind you that this Thursday, 8 July, will
not only be our third anniversary, but our final regular
In Hi-Fi party night at Bar d'O.

I hope to see you there!


Jack Fetterman


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=C6O regular Thursday evening event.

Thursday, 8 July, marks THREE YEARS of In Hi-Fi! Jack and Scott are
warm-up DJs for one last trade-off before bringing the In Hi-Fi weekly
party to a happy conclusion. Our special guests for this momentous
spectacle are the King of the Cocktail Nation, the Millionaire, and Jua=
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Garcia Esquivel protog=E9, Brother Cleve.

In Hi-Fi would like to thank our guest DJs, in our humble opinion,
the finest and most interesting voices in music today.

the B&M DJs, Michelle Boul=E9, Brother Cleve, Irwin Chusid,
Dougee Dimensional, the Easy Alohas, Easy Tune DJs:
Richard Cameron & Karin Ras, Robin Edgerton, Gaylord Fields,
Joe Flynn, David Garland, Le Hammond Inferno,
the Karminsky Experience, Joseph Lanza, Peter Lodola,
Monica Lynch, Dave Mandl, the Maxwell Implosion, Joe
McGinty, the Millionaire, Mondo Lucien, Jerry Nutter, Jonny Perl,
Peter Principle, Jonny Sender, Anita (the Meat Mistress) Serwacki,
Lord Sinclair and the Versatile Mr.Wilmot, Steve Spain, Swanky Don,
Jon Ward, and Ashley Warren

Bar d'O is at 29 Bedford Street in New York City
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telephone: [phone]
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Subject: (exotica) Mr. Scruff
Date: 06 Jul 1999 15:53:17 -0400


I just bought the latest two releases by Mr. Scruff on Ninja Tune: the ep
"Get a Move On!" and the full-length "Keep it Unreal". Both cds feature
enough jazz ("Get a Move On") and thrift store lounge samples ("Blackpool
Roll"), not forgetting sonic whimsy ("Ambiosound") to satisfy anyone who is
interested in the the modern version of the music that is discussed on this
list.

So far my favourite track is "Shanty Town" which has to be the first sea
shanty to feature big beats.

Oh yeah, "Keep it Unreal" contains "Fish" which in a fair world, would be a
massive hit.

"HI-fi...just what does it all mean?"

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: SV: (exotica) SCORE of the DAY!
Date: 06 Jul 1999 12:58:10 -0700 (PDT)



I do harbor some unspeakable affections. However, none
of these have to date involved Chachi. Which is why I
did not write the sentence attributed to me below. Be
that as it is, I would like to hear about the
restraining order. Were you armed? Clothed? I had a
friend similarly served with regards to Rick (ne
Ricky) Schroeder.

Nat Kone creatively cited:
> >
> >At 07:00 AM 7/2/99 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote:
> >
> > >> I liked Scott Baio,

> >I was once issued what amounted to a "restraining
> order" not to come within
> >a hundred yards - or was it feet? - of either Scott
 Baio or his father.

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Subject: (exotica) sad news from mpls
Date: 06 Jul 1999 15:54:38 -0500


THE PARTY'S OVER

There will be no CLUB VELVET ever again at The Front in Minneapoils.

It was a good run - nearly 4 years - and it is only due to ongoing
difficulties of working with The Front/Ground Zero management that I
have decided to pull the plug now. It had become painfully obvious
that CLUB VELVET was no longer wanted at The Front, and after much
anguish, I gave them their wish.

Please be aware that whatever is currently being presented at The
Front on Saturday nights is not affiliated with CLUB VELVET nor King
Kini in any way. If you have ever a fan of CLUB VELVET please do not
patronize The Front during their attempts to reap the benefits of
CLUB VELVET's momentum.

Perhaps we will pop-up again someday at a different venue.  In the
meantime, enjoy the CLUB VELVET website which will remain active.

Thanks to all who played-along with me over the years...


- Kini


visit...

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend in Cleveland - the movie..
Date: 06 Jul 1999 22:22:33 +0100 (BST)


At 21:40 06/07/99 +0200, you wrote:
>
>Jill Mingo wrote:
>
>> >Lounge Laura & Jill Mingo appear as themselves
>> >(in a later part)(I hope)
>> >
>>
>> Yes...but ours will be in the "x" rated version, naturally.
>
>Does that mean that Tinky Winky will appear too?


Maybe I'm a bit slow but...who is tinky winky?????


And how did HE get in on OUR act!

xx Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) bravo daddy bravo
Date: 06 Jul 1999 15:14:48 -0700 (PDT)


peripheral exotica interest: Jane Eyre on Bravo at
7:30 EST this evening. Stars Charlotte Gainsbourg (who
does not seem to have picked up daddy's great ears).




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Subject: (exotica) Baio-Babylon
Date: 06 Jul 1999 16:42:49 -0400




I do harbor some unspeakable affections. However, none
of these have to date involved Chachi. Which is why I
did not write the sentence attributed to me below. Be
that as it is, I would like to hear about the
restraining order. Were you armed? Clothed? I had a
friend similarly served with regards to Rick (ne
Ricky) Schroeder.


> >At 07:00 AM 7/2/99 -0700, Ben Waugh wrote:
> >
> > >> I liked Scott Baio,


I wrote that sentence!  But to my knowledge, he never complained about me.
Alas. I wonder what I did wrong?  What did NAT do wrong, I believe, is the
burning question,tho! ;) Jane Fondle




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Subject: (exotica) federico, humbert, that transformed guy
Date: 06 Jul 1999 22:51:39 -0400


A few list appropriate TV selections...

Bravo has Federico Fellini's "Nights Of Cabiria" (1957)
Wednesday night, 11:00pm (eastern times)
Thursday afternoon, 12:30pm

TCM offers "Lolita" (1962)
Thursday morning, 9:00am

And A&E serves up a Biography of William Shatner
Friday night, 8:00pm, Midnight

And don't forget TCM's film noir fest Friday and Saturday nights.

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Subject: (exotica) Scott Baio, me, Mario and the luncheon meat
Date: 07 Jul 1999 01:03:02 -0400


You'll soon wish you hadn't asked but since I'm already in full
storytelling mode, her goes...
You'd probably appreciate the story a bit more if you'd ever worked in the
transport department on a film but basically...
Scott Baio was acting in this film I was working on as a driver.  You've
never seen it or heard of it but just for accuracy, it was a TV movie
called "The Trouble with Alex".
Though Scott at this point was in his early twenties, he still travelled
with his father Mario who was also supposedly his manager.
Mario had not exactly been born to show business. Normally that might have
been refreshing but not in this case. He had quit his construction business
to devote himself full time to Scott's career but there's a reason managers
seldom stay with a star all through a production.
Mario had absolutely nothing to do all day long and so he became overly
concerned with small details pertaining to his personal comfort.  One of
those details was his luncheon meat and the importance of keeping it at the
proper temperature.
Normally we would tie his motorhome into the main power supply and that
would keep the motorhome fridge humming along all day, thus keeping his
meat at the proper temperature.
On this particular day however, the main generator was too far away so we
had to use the motorhome generator.  But the motorhome generator made a lot
of noise and the soundman needed it shut off when we did the take.
So my job was to turn off the motorhome generator when they were about to
shoot and then turn it back on when they called "cut".
(I'm sure you've all heard the joke with the punchline "What?  And give up
show business?")
Now of course, with this kind of on/off routine, the luncheon meat was sure
to suffer anyway but still we had to maintain the illusion for Mario that
we were doing all we could to preserve his meat.
So we do the last take and I turn the generator off.  Then they call a wrap
on that location and we begin the routines of moving to the next location.
In a few minutes I'll be getting in the motorhome and driving it to the
next location so I figure there's no reason to turn the generator back on.
You don't drive with the generator on because the engine will generate the
power at that point.  And when we get to the next location, I'll tie the
motorhome in with the main "gennie".
But to my surprise, instead of getting in the car with his son and the
driver and moving to the next location, Mario gets a sudden craving for one
last slice of salami and returns to the motorhome where he is absolutely
mortified to find that the generator isn't on.
Outraged, he asks my boss for an explanation.  And my spineless boss
sputters an apology, which causes me to look askance.
Mario catches my look and asks me directly "You don't agree with that, do
you?"
And I answer him honestly, basically giving him the above explanation and
perhaps adding that I frankly had expected him to wait a bit before having
another slice of luncheon meat.
So he asks the producers to fire me.  And they refuse, knowing, I suppose
that they hadn't a leg to stand on.
So a compromise is reached.  I cannot come within a hundred feet - or yards
- of either Mario or his star son for the duration of the production.
What a hellish sacrifice that was but somehow I struggled through it.

You asked.

Nat



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend in Cleveland - the movie..
Date: 07 Jul 1999 01:13:21 -0400


At 06:55 PM 7/6/99 +0100, Hugh Petfield wrote:
>
>Nat - what a great story - can't wait to hear more.
>
>And already I've done the casting for the movie:
>Nat Kone - Robert Redford
>Herb - John Ratzenburger (Cliff out of Cheers)
>Herb's wife - Mary Steenburgen
>Owner of  'Records' - Anthony Hopkins

Your casting of Nat and Herb is not uh... how should I say this?
It's not "ethnic" enough.
Actually a movie of Herb's life has been optioned and if it's made, he'll
be played either by Rob Schneider or my personal choice Dan Castellanata
(or however you spell it.)
Though I bare little physical resemblance to him, I have a notion that in
the movie I would be played either by Gilbert Gottfried or if I'm lucky,
Ben Stiller.
In that version of the movie, Herb would probably be played by Jerry Lewis.
And though Mary Steenburgen could do a fine job playing his wife, I would
personally like to see Jerry Lewis and Sandra Bernhard team up again and
Sandra could do this role in her sleep.
And as for "Larry", the owner of "Records", I would choose Richard
Farnsworth but  Anthony Hopkins is a fine choice as long as you can get him
to underact for a change.

Nat... guess I'll finish the story now...



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From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Scott Baio, me, Mario and the luncheon meat
Date: 07 Jul 1999 00:16:43 -0500


now THAT was funny.


  - kk



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From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Scott Baio, me, Mario and the luncheon meat / Arthur Lyman question
Date: 06 Jul 1999 22:24:54 -0700


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> So a compromise is reached.  I cannot come within a hundred feet
> - or yards
> - of either Mario or his star son for the duration of the production.
> What a hellish sacrifice that was but somehow I struggled through it.

Wow! Maybe this can be a prequel to the Cleveland saga -- Episode One,
perhaps? Maybe Industrial Light and Magic can be persuaded to animate the
luncheon meat.

And to steer the topic away to something completely different: I'm listening
right now to Arthur Lyman's "Taboo" album, and I was wondering whether
anyone knew the background to "Dahil Sayo," the 11th track. (He does a very
groovy Perez Prado-like mambo rhythm in the instrumental bridge.) It's
credited as "Trad." but I've known it all my life as a ballad from the
Philippines, complete with Tagalog lyrics. (Surprisingly, the Skatalites
have a version of the song too.) In fact, Imelda Marcos would be persuaded
to sing it -- I should say "sing" -- without much coaxing at every political
rally. Can anyone help out?

Thanks,
Ben

np: arthur lyman, "taboo"

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Subject: (exotica) weekend in cleveland part seven
Date: 07 Jul 1999 03:53:12 -0400


It's getting misty already but...

In the course of making my film, I was in a lot of houses and apartments
with a lot of records.  Thirty thousand, fifty thousand, even a half a
million once.
I've been in the basement rec rooms with 78's lined up like a bunch of
files and in dank basements with records seeping out of the cracks in the
concrete.
But all I ever did was point a camera at them.
Until that day in Herb's basement, I'd never actually gone through a
"collection" like that.  Record by record.
Piles everywhere.  Sitting precariously on crumpling cartons. Under piles
of books.  Packed tightly onto sagging old metal shelves so that you can't
slide them back after you've managed to slide them out.  Piles to trip
over.  Piles you have to step over to get to other piles.  Shelves so close
together that you can't stand back far enough to pull the record out.  Bare
bulbs behind you so that your own shadow prevents you from reading the cover.
Part of the time I got Herb to come down to the basementwith me.  I needed
help.  There was no way I could go through all those records myself.  Also,
I didn't want to bring records upstairs with me that I had no chance of
getting. I wanted Herb there so I could ask him about the odd one.  I also
wanted Herb there because I wanted the company. And I wanted Herb there
because it was fucking scarey in that basement.
I thought I'd seen a mouse the last time I was down there.  When I told
Herb about it, he practically tore his hair out.
"That's all I need", he whined.
He said that a lot.
When I told him that I'd told his foster daughter - who was sure to tell
his wife - he begged me to tell him that I was kidding.
I knew it was a mistake to tell her but unfortunately I couldn't tell Herb
that I was kidding.  "No, I told her".
There's a word in Yiddish "geshrei" that goes some way toward describing
Herb's reaction to learning that I'd inadvertently informed his wife about
the mouse sighting.
Now his wife would have yet another reason to get on his case.  She was
already afraid to go down to the basement to do the laundry.  But if she
heard there was a mouse...
On top of that, she would undoubtedly fear that the mouse - or mice - was
eating the record jackets.  As much as she hated all those records all over
her house, at least she could comfort herself with the thought that they
were worth something.
But if the mouse started eating the jackets...
"Mice don't eat record jackets!" Herb insisted.
"I know that", I told him.  Though I didn't know it for a fact.  I just
wanted to bring his blood pressure down a bit.
"But she doesn't know it", he cried.
He begged me to tell his wife that I was only kidding.  I compromised and
told him that if I ever ran into his wife again, I would tell her that I'd
mistaken one of the cats for a mouse.
I wasn't sure I would see her again.  She sort of kept out of my way and
only emerged when I would leave, at which point she would begin to yell at
Herb until supposedly the moment I returned, when she would disappear again.

Anyway, so we're down in the basement, going through the records and Herb
is actually sort of enjoying it because he's seeing all kinds of records
that he didn't remember having.
And I'm asking him about this one and that one.
He keeps promising me that he put away this cache of loungey things for me
but all I'm finding is jazz.  I don't ask him about the straight jazz ones
- or at least straight jazz as I define it - but anything that seems to
sort of fall in the middle, I ask about.
I get nowhere with the female torch singers so I stop asking about them.  I
find lots of Latin stuff like Machito, Chaino and lots of Tito Puente.
Even when I ask about that stuff, Herb often says no.
Until I sort of lose my temper and tell him that at this rate, I'll only be
leaving with the records he first brought out to the porch.
From that point on, he occasionally catches himself about to say no and
shrugs "Bring it up.  We'll see".  Not too encouraging.  But I figure the
more I bring up, the more I'll get.
I remember bringing up a lot of Lalo Schifrin and a lot of Pete Rugolo.
And a lot of organ jazz.  Shirley Scott.  Lots of Jack McDuff.  Herbie
Mann.  Cal Tjader.  A lot of Johnny Lytle and I love Johnny Lytle.  (And so
would you if you haven't heard him. Vibes and organ. Yum.)  I'm trying to
forget all I brought up because, not to give the story away but.. I didn't
get that much of it.
It's not that Charles Lloyd and Cal Tjader and organ jazz AREN'T jazz
exactly.  It's just that there's more of a connection between them and
"lounge" and I figured that as long as I stayed close to lounge, I would
eventually score.
I also found A LOT of doubles.  Even if it was straight jazz, I would bring
up the doubles.  And I had to bring up both copies - or as many as he had -
so that he could decide which one to give me and which one to keep.
I admired this Sonny Stitt record.  He was playing "variphone" - a sort of
electronic sax - but I have records where he plays that and I like them.
But I knew not to even ask Herb about it.
Five minutes later, I found another copy.
"Herb, what about this Sonny Stitt.  I just saw another copy".
"Where?"
"Back in that corner room".
That room had been hell.  I wasn't going back there, even for Sonny.
"On the shelves?"
"No, on a pile near the door".
He went and looked.  He couldn't find it.
"I have to see it", he told me.
Not that he wouldn't believe me exactly.  He just knew himself and if he
didn't see it with his own two eyes, the thought that the spare copy didn't
actually exist would haunt him.
Finally I told him to forget it.  And he went upstairs.
Five minutes later, I found a third copy!  But I went back to the shelf
where I had found the second one and I couldn't find it.
And so it went.
I was down there five hours.  Pulled out a few thousand records off the
shelves.  Some of the rarest and most beautiful jazz records I've ever
seen.  Languishing in dark corners, never to be played again, I guarantee you.
But if Herb ever gets a thought and he needs a record to prove his point,
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) weekend in cleveland part eight
Date: 07 Jul 1999 03:53:15 -0400


I probably lugged at least three hundred records upstairs.
And then the haggling began.
But before we could haggle, I separated the records into piles.  One pile
for all the doubles.  One for all the "true lounge" as I saw it.  The
records I was pretty sure I would get.  The records with, in my opinion,
little connection to "jazz".
A pile for all the groovy "fake jazz" records, organ records, vibe records,
Latin stuff.
And a pile for the stuff I doubted I would get.
I think I also made a pile for the stuff that was neither lounge nor jazz.
A reissue of the first Fugs record.  (Got that one.)  A couple of
Impressions records.  (Got those too.  I'm a huge Curtis Mayfield fan, as
you'll find out if you ever see my film.)
And there were five records that I managed to hide in "my room", off the
livingroom where the haggling took place.  These were the records I had to
get, the records I would insist on taking if it came to it.
Once we started going through the records, I started breaking down the
records into subpiles according to how much I was willing to pay him.
A quarter, fifty cents, a dollar and "more than a dollar".
And I had it all worked out.  I'd pay a quarter for a "minor" lounge record
or a good one, not in great shape.
Fifty cents for a good lounge record or a jazz record not in good shape.
A minor lounge record would be something by Frances Bay or Hugo
Winterhalter or most of the Marty Golds or this Paul Weston one - "Music
for Dreaming" - that I was only buying for the cover.
A good one would be a Puente or a Prado or this one by my (and Jane's) hero
Michel Legrand, "Michel Legrand In Rio", which I actually would have passed
up until Herb told me the secret about that record.
John Coltrane plays on it.  Don't ask me how Herb knows but if he says so,
it's true.
And I was only getting this one because of course, Herb had three copies.
(If you don't have it, it's got a great version of "Caravan" but I can't
hear Coltrane's sound on it.)
I didn't only put jazzy stuff in the dollar pile.  I also put the Esquivels
that were in good shape there.  (The more beaten one was in the fifty cent
pile.  And in those cases, we agreed actually.)
I also put the Pete Rugolo in the dollar pile.  Not that I thought he
belonged there but there was this beautiful one with some title including
"Percussion" and I figured I had to compromise in order to get it.  (I
didn't get it anyway.)
Almost right away, Herb took a couple of the quarter records and threw them
on the reject pile.  "I can get fifty cents for these", he said.
And I felt like walking away at that point.  That really pissed me off and
later it would come to haunt me.
But I kept going.  There was all the work I'd done in the basement.  There
was my friend and his record store back in Toronto.  And there was "The
Party" which had become some sort of holy grail for me, even though I have
the best cuts on a Mancini LP compilation.
All I can say is that the reject pile was growing faster than my pile.
There were a lot of records I refused to pay more than a quarter for that
if I saw them tomorrow, I might pay a dollar.
But I had come down there on the express understanding that I would get
some records for a quarter.  It was a direct quote from Herb.
And I had also come down on the implication that I was doing him a favour.
He had begged me to come down there for months.  Help clear some of the
records out of his house.  Get his wife off his back... which I did but not
in the way I expected.
At one point, I went outside for a smoke and ended up sharing the porch
with his wife who was shovelling down her dinner because she had to leave
any second.
I asked her if I could take her and the kid - who I'd barely seen either -
for breakfast the next day before we left.  No, she had to take the kid
somewhere early.
So I thanked her for her hospitality and with that, she launched into a
lengthy discussion of Herb's failings.
I defended him as much as I could, trying to highlight the humour in her
stories.  She actually laughed once.
Later I found out that when she went back inside, she told Herb that I had
said some nice things about him and then she smiled at him.
"First time she did that in months", he told me later.
And as thanks, he gave me some record he said he would have otherwise kept.

The negotiations took about two hours.  I got a lot of records but got
rejected on a whole bunch more.
When we were finished, I remembered the five records in my room and brought
them out.  "I have to get these five.  After all the rejections, you've got
to let me have these".
Herb was unmoved as he examined them.
"Dylan Jazz".  Right up my alley.  Probably bad, inappropriate
jazz-influenced covers of Dylan tunes.  And the band weren't even jazz
musicians.  The guitarist was Glen Campbell.
Herb throws it on the reject pile.
"It's not even jazz," I protest.
Herb shrugs.
"You really want a record with a cover of Like a Rolling Stone???"
"It's not what they cover, " Herb parries, "It's how they play it".
(Which is true but still...)
"Did you see who's playing guitar?  Glen Campbell"
"That's why I want it", he retorts.
(Someday Herb'll do a piece for the Boston Globe on the "free jazz" roots
of Glen Campbell.)
Must have number two: Jack Costanzo "Naked City"
(The bongo king doing crime jazz classics?  To die for.)
Jack hits the reject pile.  No explanation.
Must have's three and four.  Both by Pete Rugolo.  One of them called
something like "Music for Hi Fi Bugs" with pictures of bugs on the cover.
Rejected.  Some guy Herb likes is on it.
Next Rugolo is the must-have to end must-have's.  "Music out of Space" or
something to that effect with this great picture of Pete in a space helmet.
This one Herb takes to the turntable, looking for jazz solos to show me why
he needs to keep it.
When he can't find any solos, he puts it on the reject pile anyway.
"I like Pete Rugolo", he tells me.  "He did a lot of great arranging for
Stan Kenton".
I'm dying at this point.
Must have number five.  "Fantasy for Girl and Orchestra".
I don't really know who Phil Moore was but I've heard his name on this list
in the context of some classic exotica record.  Never seen anything by him
before.
And this one I would want for the cover alone.
First Herb tells me there might be some jazz content on it but when he
plays it, he can't find any.  The few moments I hear - the narration by
"the girl" for instance - make me want it even more.
Then he tells me that it's a very rare record and that he can't let it go
for a buck.  I'd already paid him three whole dollars for his spare copy of
Alice Coltrane "With Strings" and two dollars for a couple of records so in
desperation, I offered him three dollars for the girl and her fantasy.
"I could get at least seven".
No fucking way I was going to pay seven even if the record was worth a
hundred.
So that was that.  Zero out of five on my must-have's.

We added it up.
A hundred records for fifty cents.  Forty for a quarter.  And forty for a
dollar or more.  One hundred and eighty records for one hundred and eight
American dollars.

epilogue to follow...




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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:11:01 +0200


Hi everyone,
I've notices that a shop in my hometown in Italy has recently put on
display some cds of a series called Phase 4 (by RCA, I think) with
compilation of lounge / nstrumental studd from the 60's... I noticed a
Frank Chacksfield album with his classic sea-themed tracks like Ebb Tide...
most of the titles are devoted to piano music I don't think I've ever
listened to, then I noticed the Sound of Music soundtrack and a cd of
Chacksfield playing the Beatles... all the discs are nice price titles
(btw-- in Italy cds are NOT cheap... :((()
I think they have been published in 1995/96.
I was wondering if anyone knew of these... I'm particularly curious about
the Beatles cd...

bye,
Nicola / DjB

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend in cleveland part eight
Date: 07 Jul 1999 09:39:18 +0100


The scary thing about Nat's story is that can see myself heading in that
direction: Accumulating too many records to ever play and never being able
to let any of them go even though I'd never miss them if they were gone
(although knowing they were gone would be a terrible pain).
I don't understand why you've got the hump about Herb though Nat. 180
records for $108 seems a very good deal, especially if they're picked out
of someone's collection. And can you blame Herb for not selling a Dave Pike
record at that price?
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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) weekend in cleveland epilog
Date: 07 Jul 1999 05:01:52 -0400


Note: Somehow I just erased the just-completed epilog.  Don't have a clue
how it happened.  So this will not be as good as it could have been.

That night my travelling buddy wanted to hear some live music.  I just
wanted to bitterly complain about my experience with Herb but I figured I
owed him for putting up with the two of us and our day long haggle.
It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be.  For one thing, it was the first
bar we went to in Cleveland that didn't feel like the college football team
and their cheerleader girlfriends celebrating after the big game.
But I was in a lousy, bitter mood.
That moment where Herb threw a record on the reject pile because I was only
offering a quarter and somewhere there was someone who someday would give
him fifty cents for it.  That kept running through my head and everytime it
did, I would whine some complaint at my buddy.
Herb kept telling me all through the ordeal that I shouldn't complain.
"You're getting a lot of bargains here", he told me.
And that was true, I guess.
"But I didn't drive down here and stay in that house with him and his wife
in order to get a bargain on some records.  I didn't go through that
basement for five hours so I could get some bargains.  Sure I hoped that
would happen and sure, I was determined to get the best price I could.  But
that wasn't why I came down here.  I came down because I thought I was
doing him a favor.  I came down because for the last year he's been phoning
and begging me to come down and take some records off his hands.  I
wouldn't have come here just to get a few bargains on records".
At some point Herb had decided to sell me a Chaino record.  "Jungle
Echoes". Only after determining that it had no jazz solos.  It was some
kind of compromise after rejecting a Machito record I wanted.
But he wanted a buck for it.  Not the normal fifty cents I was paying for
non-jazz.
"I sold one of these to another guy from Toronto and I made him pay three
bucks", Herb informed me as if to emphasize the bargain he was giving me.
"What do I care what he charged that guy", I said to my buddy later that
night.  Indignantly.  "What do I care what he charges some client of a
dealer friend of his?  There's no comparison between me and that guy!"
"Sure I got some good records", I continued.  "Sure I got some bargains.
But I came down here to take a LOT of records out of his house and he
turned me down on more than half of them.  Half the records he rejected are
going to go back down in the basement and never be seen or heard again."
And so it went.  All night long with my buddy and all night by myself as I
lay on that frigging futon for one last night.
I slept a couple of hours and awoke with a headache.  Too much teeth
gnashing I guess.
But apparently I wasn't the only one who had thoughts running through his
head all night for just as I rolled out of bed, Herb entered "my room".
"I've got a few surprises for you", he said and then quickly added.  "Not
big surprises mind you.  But I think you're going to be happy."
He felt a little guilty and wanted to make up for things.
The only surprise I remember was that Marty Gold "Swings out west" record
which I had found my first night there.  Somehow or other, that record had
disappeared and wasn't around two days later when we got down to the actual
purchasing.  I didn't think it was a coincidence but Herb assured me he had
just temporarily misplaced it.
Oh and he decided he was going to "let" me purchase the Phil Moore record.
And as he came up with those few modest surprises, we shared our respective
versions of the previous day.
What it came down to was this.  Herb did this all the time.  He'd been
doing it for years.  People came to his house and bought records.
So there was this record-haggling "mode" that he just automatically went
into, friend or foe.  He'd tried to be as friendly as he could be but when
he was in the mode, he was in the mode.
Herb had assumed the same thing about me.  He had assumed that I did stuff
like this all the time.  But I had never done it before.
Sure I'd been around records a lot and done a bit of haggling at used
record stores, on both sides of the counter recently.  And maybe I had some
kind of predisposition to haggling, not the supposedly genetic kind but the
kind that comes from being a sarcastic, argumentative bastard.
But even if I had done it before, I wasn't expecting to do it that weekend.
Herb had figured he was dealing with a veteran like himself and met force
with force.
But even while I was trying to get records from him as cheap as I could, I
hadn't come down there to engage in a battle OR a game.  When I felt him go
into battle mode, I had tried to respond in kind.
But I didn't enjoy it.  Not like he did.
All we could do at that point was agree to disagree.
"So maybe you will come back someday after all?", he asked me.
"Maybe.  If you need someone to run interference with your wife".
"All you did was buy me fifteen minutes of peace.  At the most", he told me
with a pained expression.  More pained than usual.
"As soon as she comes back and sees you're gone, she'll make up for it".

We went for breakfast.  Herb didn't eat but he came to keep us company.
And we talked about the previous day some more.  I still wasn't satisfied.
"Those Rugolo records.  I told you I really wanted them.  You told me they
have some tenuous connection to jazz.  Sure, maybe they do.  But you and I
both know that with all those great jazz records all over your house, you
will never ever play those records again.  Guaranteed!"
Herb gave in a bit and nodded.
"What can I say?  So I'm a bit compulsive".
And at that I smiled and gave up.

But Herb wasn't finished.  Back at the house, as my buddy and I gathered
our belongings, Herb started GIVING me records.
In return, I agreed to look for a few things he was looking for but I would
have done that anyway.

Herb GAVE me:

An Art Van Damme ten inch with a cool Martini-depicting cover.
A Nelson Riddle record that I always wanted for the cover.  "Sea of Dreams"

then it got a lot better.  He gave me a record we had discussed the
previous day but which he wanted big money for.  Even though he had a
spare.  He believed it was too big a deal to give away for a buck or even
three.

He gave me "Eleven Against the Ice", a TV soundtrack by my sorta hero
Kenyon Hopkins.  Still haven't played it but I like having it.  Can't
imagine that an iceberg picture will have a crime jazz soundtrack but you
never know.

I was about to tell him that he had made me happy with that one but then he
gave me another one.  Something I hadn't even seen the previous day, let
alone asked for.

Quincy Jones' soundtrack for "The Hot Rock".  Can always use another Quincy
soundtrack.

"Are you happy now?" he asked.
"More than happy", I told him.
But then I spied two copies of a record, leaning near him.
"Were you going to give me one of those too?", I asked him.
And he sheepishly admitted that he had been.
So he examined them to see which was the copy in worse shape and then gave
me Nino Rota's soundtrack to "La Dolce Vita".

I told him he could stop with that one and so he did, with some relief.
Who knows what else he was prepared to give me but at that point I wanted
to hit the road more than get another record.

And that's what we did.

So what else did I get besides another lesson in the murky world of record
collecting?

Well in a few cases, it's hard to remember whether I got the record from
Herb or from the stores but I'll give the highlights I can say for sure.

Those Esquivels I told you about, one of which I'll keep and the rest'll go
to my friend's store.
"The Party".  (And I think I'm about to get that Bill Plummer solo LP)
A few Cal Tjader's including "Soul Burst".
An early Townes Van Zandt.  Don't know what that was doing there but I'm a
huge Townes fan.  It's sort of folk-rock for those who are unfamiliar.
Van Dyke Parks "Discovering America" which I'm actually letting my friend
sell.  And I'm pretty sure I have a copy somewhere.  I think we can get
forty bucks for it but God knows why.
A couple of Prado's and Puente's.
Reissue of the first Fugs record.
A bunch of Shirley Scott, Jack McDuff and Johnny Lytle, though many are
probably too beat for a normal person.  (But not for an "acid jazz" DJ
somewhere.)
The soundtrack for "The Subterraneans".  Looks like a potential crime jazz
thing.
Ron Goodwin's "Music for an Arabian night".  (Could be an exotica classic
to go along with the George Cates and Martin Denny records I got elsewhere.)
That "Al hirt meets the Green Hornet" which I told you about before.
A stereo copy - in great shape - of the "I want to live" soundtrack to
replace my somewhat beat mono copy.  (I've always wanted to know.  Among
"serious" collectors of soundtracks or lounge/exotica, which is more
valued?  The stereo or the mono?)
An almost complete set of Howard Roberts groovy sixties organ quartet
records, some of which may soon be winging their way to England for that
minor co-star of mine in Hugh's movie version of this past weekend.
A couple of Herbie Mann's including "London Underground" where he plays the
Stones tune "Bitch" along with Mick Taylor and Aynsley Dunbar.

I also learned some lessons but I don't think I have the energy right now
to figure out what they were.

And right now, I'm sick of records, which can't be a bad thing.

And we on the exotica list got our first serialized novella whether we
wanted it or not.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend in Cleveland - the movie..
Date: 07 Jul 1999 11:24:10 +0200


> >> Yes...but ours will be in the "x" rated version, naturally.
> >
> >Does that mean that Tinky Winky will appear too?
>
> Maybe I'm a bit slow but...who is tinky winky?????
>
> And how did HE get in on OUR act!

YAAAAAAAAAAWN!!!!!

Mo




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The Truman Show Tiki
Date: 07 Jul 1999 05:43:49 EDT


What was the name of the fake seaside village in "The Truman Show" ? Can you
help me with that?


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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in cleveland epilog
Date: 07 Jul 1999 09:28:11 -0400


Nat and Herb, locked in a strange dance of death, a cat-and-mouse
carousel from which no one emerges unchanged.

It's Heart of Darkness, Shane, Straw Dogs and Sleuth, a story of
barren marriages, dank basements and maybe -- just maybe -- lessons
learned.

Thank you, Nat.

Will (who really is getting on a plane to Sydney in four hours)
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Associate Professor and Director, Graduate Program in Communications
McGill University

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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in cleveland epilog
Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:44:46 -0400



Nat wrote.

>And we on the exotica list got our first serialized novella whether we
>wanted it or not.
>
>Questions?


Excellent story. Thank you, for taking the time to tell us.  Your experience
speaks for all of us. You are a true kindred spirit.

I think you should polish this up a bit with an eye to having it published
and sent it over to Dana Countryman of Cool and Strange Music Magazine.



>"That's a jazz record", he says.
>"It's just Mancini", I protest.  "A soundtrack.  If that's not lounge, I
>don't know what is".
>He turns it over.  "Look who's on it.  Plas Johnson, Jack Sheldon, Ray
>Brown.  It's a jazz record".


Thanks again!
Domenic
Martinis with Mancini WJUL 91.5
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Bob Lucas
Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:35:34 -0500


                             *Bob Lucas
    SEBASTOPOL, Calif. (AP) -- Bob Lucas, a jazz pianist who played with greats
such as Dave Brubeck and Dinah Shore, died Sunday of leukemia, two weeks
after his final performance, with Eddie Fisher. He was 60.
    Two weeks ago, a frail Lucas, battling a 102-degree fever, accompanied
Fisher in a performance in San Francisco that was filmed by Dateline NBC for
a piece on Fisher's attempted comeback.
    Lucas discovered jazz when his father invited Louis Armstrong to stay at
the family hotel after other hotels refused to rent a room to the black
musician.
    Lucas passed up a scholarship at the New York Light Opera Company for life
as a jazz musician. He came to California in 1968, playing at clubs in the
San Francisco area.
    In the late 1970s he took over the foundering Russian River Jazz Festival
and brought it back to life in a few years.
    Lucas was well-known for his charity work, playing at events such as AIDS
and cancer benefits, dropping by nursing homes or anywhere he could gather
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The "Sleepwalking/Sensational" Guitars of Dan & Dale?
Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:48:35 EDT


I'm back again from the, "It sure as hell ain't new, but it's new to me." -
Department with the album "Somewhere My Love" by The 'Sensational Guitars of
Dan & Dale on Diplomat Records DS 2395.

I just got it and to my surprise it's a pretty good album.  Every song has
this Hawaiian electric guitar overtone, with electric piano/organ thrown in
for good measure. Their version of "Greensleeves" is very slow and cool.  And
"Walk On Home" & "Cool, Cool Night" are both great and somewhat bluesy with
their combination of guitar and electric organ/piano.  The highlight of the
album for me is "Blue Hour" which is an amazing, dark little surf rock number.

Hey list, what's the history on these guys and is the rest of their stuff
this as good as this album?

-Roy


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Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in cleveland epilog
Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:48:22 EDT


In a message dated 7/7/99 9:41:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> I think you should polish this up a bit with an eye to having it published
>  and sent it over to Dana Countryman of Cool and Strange Music Magazine.

I think you should polish this up a bit with an eye to having it published
and send it over to Patrick A. McGuire the Sr. Editor at the American
Psychological Association.  I think it would make a brilliant article on
obsessive/compulsive disorder.

-Roy


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sweden: Heaven and Hell.....
Date: 07 Jul 1999 10:50:26 -0400


Is this soundtrack available on CD???

I've got the 2 LP set, but the arrangement of songs (the tracks as they =
sit on sides A, B, etc....) is atrocious......I'd love to be able to =
re-program them......

- Nate




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Subject: RE: (exotica) Sweden: Heaven and Hell.....
Date: 07 Jul 1999 11:16:22 -0400



Nathan Asked...

Is this soundtrack available on CD???

I've got the 2 LP set, but the arrangement of songs (the tracks as they sit
on sides A, B, etc....) is atrocious......I'd love to be able to re-program
them......

Yes it is. "Svezia - Inferno e Paradiso" (Easy Tempo ET 901 CD), and was
available through Dustygrooves last time I looked.

Allan

++++Unusual Music+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Mondo Bongos" Wednesdays 9 - 10 am on CFRU 93.3 fm in Guelph, Ontario,
Canada
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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) To do while bored at work....
Date: 07 Jul 1999 11:27:34 -0400


Go to ebay and look for "Matchbooks" - you can get some cool retro/lounge/t=
iki advertising art and use it for "tiled" wallpaper!!!

On a similar note - where's all the tiki/polynesian related graphics for =
PC enhancement (free on the net that is....).

Bored at work -

Nate




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From: Robert McKenna <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend in Cleveland - the movie..
Date: 07 Jul 1999 03:52:34 PDT


>
> > >> Yes...but ours will be in the "x" rated version, naturally.
> > >
> > >Does that mean that Tinky Winky will appear too?
> >
> > Maybe I'm a bit slow but...who is tinky winky?????
> >
> > And how did HE get in on OUR act!
tinky winky is the gay teletubbie (got sacked), i have a feeling la-la was
meant (of tiocfaidh ar la la fame) due to the yellow....
rob, who has spent too much time looking after kids


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Music trading....
Date: 07 Jul 1999 11:36:55 -0400


Well, my new system is up and running - so I'm all set to swap tapes.

If you'd be interested in trading just e-mail me and we'll expand our =
audio horizons!!!

- Nate




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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in cleveland epilog
Date: 07 Jul 1999 12:15:45 -0400


At 10:48 AM 7/7/99 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>I think you should polish this up a bit with an eye to having it published
>and send it over to Patrick A. McGuire the Sr. Editor at the American
>Psychological Association.  I think it would make a brilliant article on
>obsessive/compulsive disorder.

Which is the obsessive part, the attachment to records or my writing of the
story?

In any case, I'm sure Mr. McGuire would point out that Herb and I exhibited
the qualities of obsessional neurosis.  Obsessive/compulsive is something
else.

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Zippy's relevance to Nat's adventures
Date: 07 Jul 1999 12:21:16 -0400


Today's (Wednesday) Zippy comic seems oddly relevant to Nat's Cleveland adventure:

http://www.sfgate.com/sf/zippy/


m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bells
Date: 07 Jul 1999 17:27:02 +0100


What is it with French musicians and big clanging bells?

Jean Jacques Perrey - EVA
Pierre Henry - Psyche Rock
Jacques Loussier - Ballet Photo Rouge or is it Clara's Jerk from You Only
Love Once
and now Michel LeGrand - last track on The Thomas Crown Affair soundtrack.

The same bells, all French, (to use a good ole US phrase), what gives?

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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Moonraker
Date: 07 Jul 1999 11:57:29 -0400


Now, most of the Bond films have re-cycled themes, and forgettable =
background "suspense."  Mostly, the main theme song is the winner, and has =
already been released as a comp that way.

Anyway, if you see Moonraker for cheap, pick it up.  I'll confess I like =
the dopey vocal main theme, and the background music is in the "spacey, =
relaxing" vein and quite listenable.  Also there's an end title reprise of =
the theme song in a hipped up disco version that's fun too!

Where areeeeeeee youuuuuuuuuuuu - where have you gooooooone.........

- Nate




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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Organs
Date: 07 Jul 1999 19:20:44 +0100



For the benefit of us novices, can someone please post a short
note describing the differences between

a) Hammond organs
b) Lowery organs
c) Wurlitzer organs
d) any other notable organs

Many thanks,
Hugh.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in cleveland epilog
Date: 07 Jul 1999 14:33:13 EDT


In a message dated 7/7/99 12:15:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Which is the obsessive part, the attachment to records or my writing of the
>  story?

Nat,
No I wasn't refering to you at all, just "The Herb".

>  In any case, I'm sure Mr. McGuire would point out that Herb and I exhibited
>  the qualities of obsessional neurosis.  Obsessive/compulsive is something
>  else.

Well, the large team of psychologists, psychiatrists and orderlies that wake
me up every morning say that "The Herb's" hoarding is a symptom of either
obsessive compulsive disorder or obsessive compulsive personality disorder.
In fact they'd like to do a case study on him, but they're scared that they
might be crushed under falling stacks of records, or bitten by a rabid mouse.

By the way I loved the story and I can totally relate.

-Roy




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Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in cleveland epilog
Date: 07 Jul 1999 19:39:20 +0100


>Well, the large team of psychologists, psychiatrists and orderlies that wake
>me up every morning say that "The Herb's" hoarding is a symptom of either
>obsessive compulsive disorder or obsessive compulsive personality disorder.
>In fact they'd like to do a case study on him, but they're scared that they
>might be crushed under falling stacks of records, or bitten by a rabid mouse.

Is a completist equally obsessive?

Hugh.


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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Organs
Date: 07 Jul 1999 15:16:55 -0400


Very oversimplified and straightforwardly as my memory serves me,
corrections and different opinions are welcome...


a) Hammond organs are the original totally "electric" home organ.
Originally considered to be a piece of furniture, and featuned in movies
from the 1940s with women playing songs like "Tico Tico" on them, they
gained popularity in the late 60s and 70s as a rock and roll instrument.
Rocker organists like Kieth Emerson of The Nice and later of Emerson, Lake
and Palmer and John Lord of Deep Purple redefined the concer rock sound with
overdriven and distorted screaming Hammond B-3 organs.

b) Lowery organs were the competition to Hammond organ starting in the
1950s.  Lowery gained popularity with what is now called "Lounge" music with
players like Lenny Dee.  Also originally more furniture-like, Lowery
branched out to include concert sized models for small professional venues.
Many of these models were purchased for taverns and Elks clubs, where many
still sit today.  The later model Lowrey organs are geared toward home use.

c) Wurlitzer organs were the answer to churches and other large venues thatr
could not afford pipe organs.  Wurlitzer started their keyboard business
around the turn of the century with "Nickelodeons"; player pianos with built
in  drums and violins that were coin operated.  They began to include small
pipes in some of these machines, then they developed an electric organ.
This is the sound most familiar to baseball fans too...

d) any other notable organs include the Farfisa, a small portable and
inexpensive solution for the small combo, it is the epitome of the 1960's
garage and surf sound.  The Vox Continental, which shares a similar niche,
it was used extensively by Ray Manzarek of The Doors.  And not necessarily
an organ, but somewhere in between a piano and a synthesizer was the
Mellotron.  Used extensively by The Moody Blues on their In Search of the
Lost Chord and Days of Future Passed albums, it used individual recordings
of orchestras, strings of brass placed on magnetic tape under each key.
When the key was depressed, a tape transport was engaged and the recording
played for as long as 8 seconds.

Hope this helps

Check out Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation (with Farfisa organs) at
http://www.brimstones.com

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Organs
Date: 07 Jul 1999 15:28:26 EDT


In a message dated 7/7/99 3:19:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

> Mellotron.
In case you want a further example of mellotron, it is the keyboard used by
The Beatles on Strawberry Fields Forever -- and by John Lennon on  amny very
enjoyable unreleased home recordings.

It is my understanding that very few working Mellotron's exist today and they
are quite expensive if you can find one.

Best wishes,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Baio, me, Mario and the luncheon meat
Date: 07 Jul 1999 15:42:02 EDT


In a message dated 07/07/99 1:01:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< You asked.

 Nat >>

Now I have got to say it.  This is best story I have heard (except maybe the
one about the lava wall falling and killing one of Don Ho's stage hands) on
the Exotica List.

I will never look a luncheon meat the same way.

Tiki Bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Scott Baio, me, Mario and the luncheon meat
Date: 07 Jul 1999 17:01:49 EDT



In a message dated 7/6/99 9:17:13 PM, [e-mail] writes:

<<now THAT was funny.>>

Yes, I thoroughly enjoyed that story. Did Scott have anything to say about
any of this? He always "seemed" like he'd be a nice enough guy.
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Help me, Information...
Date: 07 Jul 1999 17:32:58 -0400


...I'm going to Memphis.  Does anyone know of any now-au-go-go record
stores that I should go to?


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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Another Brain-Numbingly Geeky Post from Ross
Date: 07 Jul 1999 18:41:07 -0400


Sorry! I promise I will say something interesting about an actual record
album again, someday. . .

But the topic of "how long does a stylus last, anyway?" had come up
before on the list--so I wanted to tell the story of something pretty
amazing that I found out today.

I have a Shure cartridge that I know for a fact got its last replacement
stylus 13 years ago. Since about 1993 I've been feeding it a steady diet of
thrift-store records, whose condition has been all over the map--a lot of
them have been wrecked and filthy.

Soundwise, I find that certain records seem a little fuzzy to me--others are
fine--and I've been a little confused about how much was just the condition
of the vinyl, or whether the stylus might be starting to be a problem.

So I went over to the local tweako hifi place (the last place in town that
is still into turntables), and asked them to take a look at it. I expected
them to tell me it was totally shot, and that I'd be walking out of there
with a new cartridge. (You can't get replacement stylii for this model any
more, the folks at http://www.needledoctor.com claim.)  But I was curious
if mine was so worn that I was actually damaging records. Maybe I could
still use it as a "beater" cartridge to screen incoming LPs?

Well, they stuck it under the stereo microscope--and damned if that stylus
wasn't still OK! The guy said, "this has about 25% of its wear left." If it
was a tire, I could still drive to California and back on it. Frankly, when
I looked through the scope I could barely see the wear he was talking
about.

Thirteen years! Playing the very records that Moritz was so horrified to
learn were covered in crunchy mineral residues from our tap water. I guess
diamond really is hard stuff. . .

Now this is not to say that you should all go out and play your LPs with
destroyed needles. . . after all this is a good cartridge that only tracks
at about 1.3 grams--so the stylus/groove wear is at the low end of the
spectrum. But this seems WAAAAY beyond the 600 hours or whatever is
sometimes quoted as the lifetime of a stylus. . .

vibrationally,


 --Ross

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Subject: (exotica) Pleasant Suprise
Date: 07 Jul 1999 18:42:01 -0400


Wait!  I remembered one! _Borrah Minnevitch and His Harmonica Rascals_
(King Records).

All I knew about Borrah was that his band was the training ground for
Richard Hayman, all three Harmonicats, Leo Diamond and probably some other
guys too. But the name "Harmonica Rascals" just gave me this idea it was
probably some dopey novelty act.

So I only picked up this record out of a sense of historical completeness.
Actually it turns out they are a lot better than I expected (at least in
this incarnation--they go back in one form or another to 1926).

Some of the songs are at the sappier end of things, but there are at least
4 tracks that get the thumbs-up from me. That's more than I can say for the
typical Harmonicats album. They do an ominous cover of "What Is This Thing
Called Love," and a great, jumped-up version of Rachmaninoff's "Prelude in
C Sharp Minor."

Mambo Frenzy says, check it out.

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Help me, Information...
Date: 07 Jul 1999 19:03:30 -0400


At 05:32 PM 7/7/99 -0400, Brian Phillips wrote:
>
>...I'm going to Memphis.  Does anyone know of any now-au-go-go record
>stores that I should go to?

I believe the store I got the most at was called "River Records".  Just
make sure you don't ask the guy about Sun 78's.  Unless you have all day
and you like looking at photographs of record labels.
The place sort of reminded me of "Records" in Cleveland except that the guy
looks in the damn book everytime you bring up a record that hasn't been
priced yet.  But there was A LOT of good stuff there.
Another good place was called, I think, "Shangri-La".  That's the name of a
cool "alternative rock" label down there.  But they also have this new/used
record store with a fair bit of exotica vinyl, at least when I was there.
I can't remember if the store has the same name as the label but if you
can't find the store, phone the label.

While you're there, I highly recommend visiting Furry Lewis's grave.  You
can find out about a lot of this stuff if you pick up this alternative
guide to Memphis, which I think was called something like "the White Trash
Guide to Memphis"  You can get it at this store on Beale Street.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Brain-Numbingly Geeky Post from Ross
Date: 07 Jul 1999 20:39:01 -0500


Ross Orr wrote:

> But the topic of "how long does a stylus last, anyway?" had come up
> before on the list--so I wanted to tell the story of something pretty
> amazing that I found out today.

Sometimes you don't know what you're missing until you hear it. Here's how I
solve the when to change your needle question.

I already have a bunch of spare stylus that fit my cartridge, which I bought
about 6 years ago,  convinced that I'd never be able to buy these again.  So,
first of all I'd recommend getting the extra needle now, just to have it.
Occasionally  I'll be listening to a record and think, "man, this record sounds
like crap" , this being a comment on the surface noise, though I've been known
to say this about content perhaps more frequently. In any event, if it's really
bugging me I'll take the 30 seconds it takes to replace the needle. If I don't
notice any difference, which is usually the case, I'll put the old needle back
on. If the sound is appreciably better I'll know that it was then time to
change the needle.
 Every one has their own standard of listening to or through surface noise.
This being the case it only make sense that folks will have varying ideas on
"when to change".  Who needs a microscope when you've got ears!
I assume most of us vinyl bargain hunters have a higher tolerance and hence
should not have to change needles often if ever.

For what it's worth ....
I worked in a record store back when we actually sold new vinyl as the primary
medium and aside from the occasional obvious defect that caused people to
return their records there was still a handful of neurotic record geeks that
regularly returned records with the most imperceptible tick or blemish. For the
most part we simply took the record back rather that cause a stir. One time,
however, this one particular customer came in with a record which we put on the
store system to listen to the tick that was the cause of the customers return.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with the record. "Wait, right there, did you
hear that?" the customer spoke up. I backed up and played that section again.
There was a faint tick, once, buried in the mix the music.  Incredulous and in
a bad mood to begin with, I told the customer quite bluntly. "You're not even
listening to the music, your playing this waiting to see if you'll be able to
hear if there is any thing wrong. If you were listening to the actual music you
would never have noticed this."  I'll spare you (and myself) an explanation of
the consequences of this interchange. Suffice to say that since then this has
become my credo in listening to records.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Organs
Date: 07 Jul 1999 22:56:46 -0400


>For the benefit of us novices, can someone please post a short
>note describing the differences between
>
>a) Hammond organs
>b) Lowery organs
>c) Wurlitzer organs
>d) any other notable organs

Whenever I see the name "Wurlitzer" on an LP, particularly "Mighty
Wurlitzer," I usually expect it to be full-blown theater pipe organ.
(Though as was pointed out, the company did also branch out into home
organs, electric pianos, etc.)

I have to confess that one of my earliest "Incredibly Strange" records was
a totally funereal Jesse Crawford pipe organ LP--but in later years I've
tended to avoid any pipe organ LPs except for George Wright's. (As someone
on the list once wisely pointed out, you *really* want to avoid the ones
with the word "reverie" in the title.)

Hammond was the company that created a particularly rich and warm electric
organ sound through the use of the "tone wheel." There is a long
motor-driven shaft with many faceted disks on it, which spin very close to
pickup coils. The number of nubs which go past the pickup per revolution
determines the pitch. Also there are several wheels per note, representing
different overtones; drawbars above the keyboard mix in different
proportions of these overtones for different timbres.

Another part of the "classic" Hammond sound isn't actually the organ
itself, but the Leslie cabinet which was often used with it--a rotating
speaker that gives a particularly nice vibrato effect.

As far as I know, Lenny Dee used a Hammond for all his earlier
recordings--though his was apparently hot-rodded with some extra effects, I
don't know what all, but he got some pretty freaky sounds out of his.

I believe the Lowrey organ used oscillator circuits to generate its sounds
(any keyboardists know for sure?) rather than tone wheels, because it was
known for the "note bending" sounds which Dick Hyman got so much mileage out
of. In fact, I can hardly do better than to quote from the Dick Hyman
interview in _Grand Royal_ mag #3:


>Q: [discussing _Moon Gas_]Was there some kind of bendable effect on the
>organ too?
>
>DH: Oh yeah. Well in those days I used a Lowrey organ which had--I used
>this on all of Enoch Light's records too, and on everybody else's as I got
>called, but in particular on this album--it had what they called a
>"Hawaiian Guitar" effect.  That is, you could bend a note. Of course I
>didn't use it often for actual Hawaiian guitar effects, but it was a
>satisfactory kind of note bending you could do if you pressed the foot
>pedal in a certain way. You could get into a note from about half a tone
>below, so that's there quite a bit. I used that on a lot of my organ albums
>of that time which were all on Lowrey organ in those days.
>
>Q: Why did you use Lowrey organ, as opposed to Hammond?
>
>DH: Because it had those effects on it. Also because it was stereophonic.
>It came with two speakers and I generally connected the registration [?]
>for one one keyboard to a Leslie speaker and the other one to a straight
>speaker, and was able to get a lot of antiphonal, back and forth effects
>that way. It had a lot of things that the Hammond organ at that time did
>not. In addition to the Hawaiian Guitar effect, it had chimes, various
>kinds of bells, xylophone, things that are standard now, but they were not
>on the [Hammond] B3. So I became a Lowrey organ artist for some time until
>years later when I moved on to Baldwin for both piano and organ. By that
>time most of the organs had the same kinds of things on them.
>
>Q: I agree that the Lowrey, when you used it, had so many great sounds. . .
>
>DH: It really was very useful, and I would get hired to play on dates just
>because people expected me to come up with some interesting sounds that
>they couldn't quite think of when they were arranging. I usually came
>through for them, in the same way that Vinnie Bell would be called to do
>much the same kind of thing. Of course I used all of these things on my own
>recordings . . . .
>

Now speaking of "other notable keyboards" I have to mention the Novachord
again. This was Hammond's 1939 attempt to make an all tube oscillator
organ. The whole thing was a commecial failure, because the 100+ tubes were
constantly burning out or going off pitch. Nonetheless it produced some
really indescribable, juicy sounds, especially in the bass. I know of at
least three album sets on 78s which featured the Novachord, but only once
did I find the jacket to one, filled with the wrong records!! Grrr. . . .


Yours organically,

 --Ross

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 08 Jul 1999 00:20:50 EDT



In a message dated 7/7/99 4:20:10 AM, you wrote:

<<Chacksfield playing the Beatles.>>

I wouldn't bother - I've got the LP and I think it's boring.    Bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) weekend in cleveland epilog
Date: 08 Jul 1999 02:01:13 EDT


Shit, Nat for the price of that epic you can have my copy of Rugolo's Music
from Out of Space.  E-mail me, I'll send it.

--David


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Frankie Stein and the Ghouls
Date: 08 Jul 1999 08:19:35 EDT


Anyone ever heard anything by Frankie Stein and the Ghouls?  What do they
sound like? I'm curious.

Sean


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Subject: (exotica) Goofy exotica joke/quiz
Date: 08 Jul 1999 08:52:31 -0400


OK, so maybe not much is going on right now, so this is how my idle mind
works.  I've come up with a really pathetic quiz/joke thing.  Here goes,
cue "Jeopary" theme music please:

What do you get when you cross an Esquivel-penned television show theme
with one of the several Swedes on this list?

OK, guess!
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Another Brain-Numbingly Geeky Post from Ross
Date: 08 Jul 1999 09:54:17 -0400


 this seems WAAAAY beyond the 600 hours or whatever is
sometimes quoted as the lifetime of a stylus. . .

Holy Smokes!  I wonder how much of the 600 hours recomendation has figured
into it things like how many times you drop the needle onto the record over
a given period of time, and the bending of the fine tubular stem that the
diamond is affixed to and the fact that the left channel is always "leaned
on" more then the right as the tonearm is dragged across the platter.

Now I'm thinking I should re-mount the way hi-fi 1987 vintage Audio Technica
cartridge I have.

Maybe I should get a new stylus first, though.....

"Just because a record has a groove don't make it in the groove"

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) An unexpected chuckle while watching WKRP in Cincinatti
Date: 08 Jul 1999 10:09:18 -0400


On a Christmas episode (the plot is the concern that Jennifer may be
spending the holidays alone), Johnny Fever is carrying a record and it is
none other than the Ethel Merman Disco Record!

I don't wish to know that,
Brian Phillips



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Subject: (exotica) Thank you all for your
Date: 08 Jul 1999 10:10:04 -0400


Thanks to everyone for your marvelous suggestions!



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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Roberta Sherwood,Ronnie Graham
Date: 08 Jul 1999 10:15:55 -0500


Thursday July 8 12:38 AM ET

Torch Singer Roberta Sherwood Dead At 86
By Sarah Tippit

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Roberta Sherwood, a bespectacled suburban housewife
who in 1956 rose from obscurity to become a headlining torch singer and
entertainer, performing with the likes of Mickey Rooney, Don Rickles, Joey
Bishop and Milton Berle, has died.

Sherwood died Monday at her home in the Los Angeles suburb of Sherman Oaks,
California, of complications of Alzheimer's disease, family members said.
She was 86.

Born in 1913 into a carnival family, Sherwood began her 50-year-career at
age 11 in vaudeville. Although audiences always responded to her visceral
singing style, she chose to stop touring and marry Broadway showman Don
Lanning in 1938.

They settled in Miami, Florida, began a family, and went into the local
nightclub business where Sherwood sang her way through the 1940s and '50s,
pausing between acts to breastfeed her three sons.

It was not until 1956, with her husband dying of lung cancer and a family to
feed, that Sherwood's career took off. Initially passed over as too old to
perform, she sang only at local events until she was hired by a Miami Beach
club owner.

Soon, people packed the bar to hear the woman with the glasses who banged on
a battered cymbal while she sang. Television comic Red Buttons brought in
Walter Winchell, who raved about her in his column and on radio broadcasts.

Not long after Sherwood was earning up to $5,000 a week at the nation's top
nightclubs and was signed to record an album for Decca Records. She played
New York's famed Copa Cabana, made the rounds at the major clubs in Las
Vegas and opened in Hollywood to an enthusiastic reception.

Her style was described by Time magazine as ``flashy, richly sentimental, as
unsubtle as her crashing cymbal and as unpretentious as her $49.50 dress.''

``I dug up the cymbal because Murray Franklin didn't have a drummer,'' she
once said. ``I started wearing a sweater because of the air-conditioning ...
I wear the glasses when I'm walking through the audience because I can't see
without them, and I don't want to walk into somebody's shrimp cocktail.''

She also was known for helping young, struggling performers, including
Rickles, who said he was saddened by her death.

``I had the honor of sharing the stage with Roberta in Miami Beach ... when
she was a star and I was struggling,'' Rickles said. ``With her help and
Walter Winchell's, I started to gain recognition. She was one of a kind. Her
style and personality will be missed.''

Over the years Sherwood's dozens of hit recordings included ''You're Nobody
'Til Somebody Loves You,'' and ``Up A Lazy River.'' She became a favorite in
the early days of television, appearing on ``The Ed Sullivan Show, ``The
Steve Allen Show, ''The Jackie Gleason Show,'' ``The Garry Moore Show'' and
''Person To Person'' with Edward R. Murrow.

Sherwood is survived by three sons, two grandchildren and five
great-grandchildren.
(She was in the movie "The Courtship of Eddie's Father" as Mrs. Livingstone,
the role that Miyoshi Umeki had on the TV show.Her son, Jerry Lanning,
became a musical comedy performer, and was featured in (I think) the soap
opera "Texas.")
--------------------
Tuesday July 6, 5:25 pm Eastern Time
Naked corpse found on whale in Florida's SeaWorld
ORLANDO, Fla., July 6 (Reuters) - An unidentified man was found naked and
dead on the back of a killer whale in a tank at SeaWorld Orlando on Tuesday
morning, apparently after hiding in the Florida theme park after closing
time, police said.

``The man was found nude on the whale's back,'' said Jim Solomons, spokesman
for the Orange County Sheriff's office. ``There was no obvious trauma -- he
wasn't bitten or chewed up or anything.''

Investigators said an autopsy would determine the cause of death, with
drowning considered a strong possibility. The man's name was not released
but police said he was 27 years old.

Swimming trunks were found at the bottom of the pool.

Solomons said the man was not a whale trainer or other SeaWorld employee.
Park employees said he might have been someone seen at the park during the
previous few days.

``We believe this might have been a man who was seen around the park for
several days taking an interest in the whales,'' said SeaWorld general
manager Vic Abbey. ``He may have been hiding until the park closed.''

Trainers said the orca whale, a retired performer from a Canadian park, was
accustomed to working with human trainers but not with inexperienced tourists.

``We've never had any trouble with this animal,'' trainer Chuck Thompkins
said. ``I've never noticed any aggressive behavior.''

SeaWorld officials said they were not aware of any similar incidents at the
Florida park, which has been open more than 25 years. SeaWorld is owned by
Anheuser-Busch Cos .
-----------------
Unconfirmed reports on the net that Comedian-writer Ronny Graham has died.
He had been sick off and on for several years, and was quite frail.

He worked often with Mel Brooks, on- and off-screen, co-writing SPACE BALLS
and TO BE OR NOT TO BE, among others.  He appeared as Rev. Bemis on CHICO
AND THE MAN, and in a string of commercials as Mr. Dirt  for Mobil detergent
gasoline.
----------------
World Music On Your PC

Foreign TV Radio, the radio service of the new ForeignTV.com Web site, was
officially launched on Wednesday evening. The station will focus on music
from around the world that is often unheard in the United States and many
western nations. Said the site manager, "From Les Nubians to Patricia Kaas,
Natacha Atlas to Ricardo Lemvo, foreignTVradio, will expose our audience to
the global community of artists and musicians who are redefining the
listening experience for millions of people."
World Wide Web: http://www.foreignTV.com/radio.html




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Brain-Numbingly Geeky Post from Ross
Date: 08 Jul 1999 10:42:45 -0400





>Thirteen years! Playing the very records that Moritz was so horrified to
learn were covered in crunchy mineral residues from our tap water. I guess
diamond really is hard stuff. . .
Now this is not to say that you should all go out and play your LPs with
destroyed needles. . . after all this is a good cartridge that only tracks
at about 1.3 grams--so the stylus/groove wear is at the low end of the
spectrum. But this seems WAAAAY beyond the 600 hours or whatever is
sometimes quoted as the lifetime of a stylus. . .
vibrationally,

 --Ross

Well, goofy me! I have indeed wrecked needles by playing scratchy records.
And in the Fondle spaceship,  I have a two-turntable setup:  a nice, new
shiny needle for rekkids that are mint, near-mint and Vg++++++++, etc.
For the wrecked rekkids, the bottom turntable has that needle I've since
destroyed.  That's my system, and I'm sticking to it!
Jane "I've seen the needle and the damage done" Fondle


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Brain-Numbingly Geeky Post from Ross
Date: 08 Jul 1999 12:11:41 -0400


> Ross Orr Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 6:35 PM
>
>But the topic of "how long does a stylus last, anyway?" had come up
>before on the list--so I wanted to tell the story of something pretty
>amazing that I found out today.
>
Where can I get reliable information about Radio Shack needles?

About a year ago, I retired my B&O turntable because of the difficulty and
$$ of their  special stylus/needle and picked up a Radio Shack turntable at
a used furniture store.

Brought it over to the local rat shack and the fellow there actually knew
something about turntables. He replaced the needle (in stock and only about
$17) and balanced the arm for me.

I'm back in business, all for less than the price of 2 CD's.

The package said it was a diamond needle. Am I being sold the Brooklyn
Bridge? I figure I should replace the needle once a year "just to be safe".
Now I wonder.


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Subject: RE: (exotica) Goofy exotica joke/quiz
Date: 08 Jul 1999 11:04:44 -0400




What do you get when you cross an Esquivel-penned television show theme
with one of the several Swedes on this list?


Abba-dabba-doo!!!

Yes??

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Subject: (exotica) Organs - Thanks
Date: 08 Jul 1999 16:32:16 +0100



My thanks to all who replied with details of the principal
features/differences
of musical organs. Most helpful!  One final query - do these instruments (like
guitars of the same period) now command high prices?

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Subject: (exotica) Dahil Sa Iyo
Date: 08 Jul 1999 16:32:15 +0100



Someone asked about composer credits for the song
"Dahil Sa Iyo".  The Lettermen released this song in the
Philippines in 1974, and the composers are shown as

T. Spinosa - M. Velarde Jr
Dexter Music Publishers ASCAP


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Subject: RE: (exotica) Another Brain-Numbingly Geeky Post from Ross
Date: 08 Jul 1999 11:46:16 -0400


Where can I get reliable information about Radio Shack needles?

I have had good luck with them.  Lots of their turntable cartridge stuff is
made by Audio Technica and Shure anyway.  I would not use any ceramice
cartridges they have their name on, however,  Those are like dragging a
brick across your records.

They should be able to replace your B&O needle too.  They pride themselves
on their ability to "match up" anything ever made.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Another Brain-Numbingly Geeky Post from Ross
Date: 08 Jul 1999 13:03:20 -0400




>
>Where can I get reliable information about Radio Shack needles?
>
>I have had good luck with them.  Lots of their turntable cartridge stuff is
>made by Audio Technica and Shure anyway.  I would not use any ceramice
>cartridges they have their name on, however,  Those are like dragging a
>brick across your records.
>
>They should be able to replace your B&O needle too.  They pride themselves
>on their ability to "match up" anything ever made.
>
Thank you Charlieman,

I feel better about the Radio Shack needles, you go to these hi fi boutiques
and they just turn their noses at RS even if the quality seems OK so you
don't know what to think.

BTW, RS could not replace my B&O needle....

thank again

Domenic



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Subject: RE: (exotica) Organs - Thanks
Date: 08 Jul 1999 11:59:51 -0400


 One final query - do these instruments (like
guitars of the same period) now command high prices?


Some do, most certainly.  Unlike other eloctronic instruments of the time,
many have retained their original dollar value.  Hammond B-3 organs are one
of the most sought after instruments in the trade.  It is not unusual to pay
$2000 or more for one in good shape.  My band The Brimstones play the
Farfisa Compact.  He paid around $700 for it.  A Lowrey or Wurlitzer of
concert size certainly would fetch a decent price, as will a Mellotron, Vox
Fender Rhodes or any other older professional keyboard.  The models that
were designed for home use, the less expensive Lowreys and Conns and even
Hammonds can be had quite cheaply.  I bought a cheezy Hammond a few years
ago for $10.  But the models that had decent sound quality and, as the other
post mentioned about Dick Hyman's reasons, decent useable features...these
still hold some significant value.

And we haven't even brought up synthesizers and how much they go for now....

Check out Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation at
http://www.brimstones.com

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
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Date: 08 Jul 1999 12:02:17 -0400






      <[e-mail]>
cc:







>>>What do you get when you cross an Esquivel-penned television show theme
with one of the several Swedes on this list?


Abba-dabba-doo!!!

Yes??

>>>NO!  But that's dang funny!  It has to do with a Swede on this EXOTICA
list..hint..hint...
JF





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Subject: (exotica) Re: Turntable needles.....
Date: 08 Jul 1999 12:08:45 -0400


....I just went to one of those huge "MARS" music stores and picked up a =
new cartrige and extra needle.

I had a "Grado" cartrige that was impossible to just replace the needle =
portion.

I forget what brand I just got, but it's white, and the needle simply =
slides out of the front of the cartridge.  It was like $30 - the needle =
has a dot of flourescent orange on the tip - I guess so the DJ's can see =
it in low light???

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) in the news: loitering teenagers scared of Crosby
Date: 08 Jul 1999 12:59:15 -0500


   SYDNEY, July 8 (AFP) - An Australian mall has turned to Bing Crosby to
scare away loitering teenagers from its entrances, according to a report
Thursday.
   The Warrawong Westfield mall in Wollongong, south of Sydney, has begun
playing Crosby's hit "My Heart is Taking Lessons" repeatedly to keep its
entrances teenager-free, The Daily Telegraph said.
   And the tactic appears to be working with teenagers telling the newspaper
the "old fogey" music had driven them from their favorite spot outside the
complex.
   "All the people from Warrawong High used to hang here after school - now
you don't see them," 14-year-old Matthew Wilson told the daily.
   The technique could also be used by other communities with the southern
Sydney suburb of Kogarah considering blaring Bing to clear loitering
teen-agers from public areas.
   The community is also considering installing pink lighting which clearly
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Subject: (exotica) Sonic Youth gear stolen
Date: 08 Jul 1999 02:56:31 EDT




[e-mail] wrote:
>
>
>  URGENT/SY GEAR STOLEN!
>
>  july 4 1999 LA/Orange County
>
>
>  Hello all, this is Lee from Sonic Youth
>  here, we have had a fucked up situation
>  come down on us over this last night--a
>  brand new Ryder truck parked at a Ramada
>  Inn in Orange County with ALL OF OUR GEAR
>  IN IT was STOLEN! All of our guitars,
>  tools, amplifiers, drums, synth --
>  EVERYTHING. We are fucked, both for the
>  show tonight at the "This Ain't No Picnic"
>  here in Orange Co., and for shows upcoming
>  this week in Austin and Santa Fe. Our
>  guitars are all mostly older and either
>  very modified and/or fucked up/beat up.
>  They are unmistakably ours, as are some of
>  the amps, including my own 60s Fender
>  Concert with the red/blue/yellow "Jasper
>  Johns-style" target on it.
>
>  We are asking ANYONE with ANY INFORMATION
>  about this to get in touch with us as soon
>  as possible by calling our man Aaron
>  Blitzstein in New York City at
>  212.343.2314, or via email to
>  "[e-mail]". Call collect if you
>  want to. Please no pranks, all, this is
>  really serious--all the gear we've used to
>  write our last few LPs worth of stuff,
>  instruments used for songs old and new
>  which if truly lost will mean those songs
>  will be lost forever.
>
>  Help us out if you can, there will be a
>  reward for any info, I'm sure. All our road
>  cases, etc, are fully marked up with our
>  name on them, the gtrs are so unusual that
>  they won't really be too hard to mistake.
>  ANY info at all will be appreciated.
>
>  If the thieves themselves read this, I'm
>  sure we'd rather buy the stuff back from
>  you than lose it forever (you fukkerz).
>
>  here are some descriptions of gear:
>
>  drums: green satin flame 60s Gretch kit (w
>  "paisley" glow in dark kik head
>
>  Fender ToneMaster head and 4x12 cabinet
>
>  Fender blackface Concert (4x10) w "Target
>  design" spraypainted on front
>
>  PeeVey RoadMaster Head
>
>  Marshal 4x12 cab
>
>  Mesa Boogie 400+ bass head/4x10 cab/18" cab
>
>  Fender Bassman head (two!)/ 2x12 fender cab
>
>  Fender presicion Bass
>
>  Gibson Les Paul Jr w snoopy sticker
>
>  Fender Jazzmasters and Jaguars--lots of
>  'em, mostly modified to hell (orig
>  electronix pulled, diff p/u's etc) and
>  usually way beat up.
>
>  Travis Beans--1 koa wood, one red beat to
>  shit
>
>  White roadcase/briefcase full of gtr tools
>
>  we will post more equip info later...
>  thanks in advance for any help...
>
>  PLEASE PASS THIS LIST ON TO ANYONE WHO
>  MIGHT BE OF HELP!
>
>  ---Lee/Sonic Youth


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dot Disks
Date: 08 Jul 1999 12:29:27 -0400



>  It
>also had a leaflet inside with a further 101 Dot albums (circa 1965)
>illustrated.  The label certainly had a big foot in the schmaltz door -
>Lawrence Welk, The Lennon Sisters, Pat Boone, Mills Bros, umpteen Billy
>Vaughn albums.  There are also offerings from a very suspect-looking banjo
>player Eddie Peabody, Welk's accordianist Myron Floren and ragtime pianist
>Johnny Maddox.
>
>Exotica on Dot?

Thanks for bringing this up. I usually stay away from Dot but last night I
found in a  used furniture shop: Lawrence Welk presents George Cates
Polynesian Percussion, Dot DLP 25355

Our friend at space age pop says it all, and better than I could.
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/cates.htm

I swear this exact LP came up a few days ago here on the list but can't find
the post. Must be why it caught my eye.

Every track a winner, hard driving Latino tinged Polynesian exotica.
Unfortunately for me 2 tracks are scratched, one beyond hope.

On the back a diagram similar to those Mercury Cugart disks that describe
where the instruments were in the recording studio with all that bla bla bla
about mics.

Playin' it on the show tomorrow
Domenic
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: RE: (exotica) Goofy exotica joke/quiz
Date: 08 Jul 1999 11:59:47 -0500



>>>>What do you get when you cross an Esquivel-penned television show theme
>with one of the several Swedes on this list?

Magnus PI.

Blind guess, driven by the Swede hint. Did the mighty Esquivel write the
Magnum PI theme?

Mimi, scratching her head and grinning.




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Subject: (exotica) We have a weiner!
Date: 08 Jul 1999 13:34:05 -0400





An Oscar Mayer(Oh, man, I'm two-fer-two today!)  Yes, Ms. Mimi, you are
CORRECT SIR...
But don't worry, all these kids here today are winners!
Jane Fondle..ooh, ho, ho.
Yes, JG. Esquivel penned Magnum PI's theme...ooo




>>>>What do you get when you cross an Esquivel-penned television show theme
>with one of the several Swedes on this list?

Magnus PI.

Blind guess, driven by the Swede hint. Did the mighty Esquivel write the
Magnum PI theme?

Mimi, scratching her head and grinning.





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Subject: Re: (exotica) Goofy exotica joke/quiz
Date: 08 Jul 1999 15:07:10 -0400


>Blind guess, driven by the Swede hint. Did the mighty Esquivel write the
>Magnum PI theme?


A partial answer:

The back of the "Music From A Sparkling" Planet"  disk lists about 120 TV
movies and TV shows, including Magum P.I., that have used Esquival recorded
"short mood pieces"  recorded for Universal studios in the 1960's. Since
then they have been used in 100s of TV soundtracks.

INCREDIBLY STRANGE MUSIC mentions "Wrote theme and/or background music"  and
the credits include Magnum PI.

These sources do not tell us that he specifically wrote the theme. Only that
his music was used on the TV show.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Sonic Youth gear stolen
Date: 08 Jul 1999 14:43:31 EDT


In a message dated 07/08/99 1:34:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< >  Hello all, this is Lee from Sonic Youth
 >  here, we have had a fucked up situation
 >  come down on us over this last night--a
 >  brand new Ryder truck parked at a Ramada
 >  Inn in Orange County with ALL OF OUR GEAR
 >  IN IT was STOLEN!  >>

I know this is crazy but didn't I see this same email about a year ago???  Is
this one of those emails that just keeps going around (like the free trip to
Disney World one)???

tiki bob


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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend in Cleveland - where to next?
Date: 08 Jul 1999 15:05:09 -0500


It seems like Nat spent the weekend "living" his film. I say this from
the priveleged position of having seen a recent cut of his film on
the subject of obsessive record collectors. I have this feeling that
the subject of the weekend is one of those collectors Nat interviewed
in the film (and there were some mighty strange people he visited).

Anyway, I hope all of you someday get to see this film (any film
producers on the list may want to drop Nat a line) if anything so you
see for yourself that Nat's weekend experience is no exaggeration!

I found if funny because I've had similar experiences with a guy I've been
buying things from for years. Each year I went back to see him he still
wouldn't sell me the one record I wanted,  in his words ...just in case I
get asked to put together a retrospective of the stuff...  Far as I
know it's still in his closet!

The solution to not falling into the same rut is simple...  Throw out
your want lists!  I know I have maybe 10 or 15 items left on mine and
they're all so obscure I never expect to find any of them anyway, so...

Still, last weekend's visit to Toronto had me looking in Nat's favourite
store but instead of exotica, what do I find  but one of my few
remaining want list items: The Cornelius Cardew Memorial Concert.
I'd actually given up on this one long ago so it was a pleasant surprise.
SO again, my advice is stop taking those want lists seriously... you'll feel
a large burden lifted from your shoulders.  Yeesh,  I feel like I'm
telling my story for some dependency treatment group!

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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Subject: RE: (exotica) An unexpected chuckle while watching Austin Powers
Date: 07 Jul 1999 12:50:10 -0700



Anyone notice the record racks in one of the street scenes in TSWSM? =
It's chock full o' rekkits, but I did not get a good enough look to =
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) easy on the eye
Date: 08 Jul 1999 16:31:12 -0500


I've just picked up my first copy of MOJO: The Music Magazine ('cause it has
articles on Captain Beefheart, Skip Spence, Arthur Lee, Viv Stanshall).

In it is the following blurb:
"There was a kind of innocence about it all. It seemed to spill out
anonymously and met its radiogram-owning market with no hint of the hard
sell." That's Simon Robinson, co-curator of Easy On The Eye, a forthcoming
exhibition celebrating the graphic thrills of easy listening LP artwork
during its mid-'50s-to-mid-'70s heyday. "We've got 75 or 80 cracking
sleeves," he says, "that cover everything from exotic Latin fantasies to
new-fangled 'stereo-sound'." Loss, Kaemfert, Last and Montovani devotees are
promised a suitably 'easy' atmosphere.

Easy On The Eye is at the Grundy Art Gallery, Blackpool, July 10-October.
Call 0114-2333024.
http://www.blackpool.gov.uk/artgal.htm


If any of you are from Lancashire and go to this show, be sure to let us
know if it's any good. I'd esp. be interested in knowing if they have a
catalogue, or other items related to the show, for sale.

-Lou




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Subject: (exotica) Bollywood
Date: 08 Jul 1999 16:38:17 -0400


On Ken Miller's "Shouting at the Postman" site, he has a fun article
entitled "The Joy of Indian Movies: From Bollywood to You".
http://members.aol.com/satpostman/index.html

Enjoy,

Allan


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Subject: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 08 Jul 1999 16:55:06 -0400


Check this out!  It's the famed Kowloons we Boston denizens brag about so
much!

http://www.kowloonrestaurant.com/
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Subject: Re: (exotica) in the news: loitering teenagers scared of Crosby
Date: 08 Jul 1999 17:35:43 EDT


In a message dated 7/8/99 1:09:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> The community is also considering installing pink lighting which clearly
>  shows pimples on teenagers' faces to discourage loitering.

Am I a sadist for loving this idea?  Where can I get one for my living room
so that my daughter and her boyfriend will willing scram instead of
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Date: 08 Jul 1999 17:40:49 EDT


<< >  Hello all, this is Lee from Sonic Youth
 >  here, we have had a fucked up situation
 >  come down on us over this last night--a
 >  brand new Ryder truck parked at a Ramada
 >  Inn in Orange County with ALL OF OUR GEAR
 >  IN IT was STOLEN!  >>

>I know this is crazy but didn't I see this same email about a year ago???
Is
>this one of those emails that just keeps going around (like the free trip to
>Disney World one)???
>tiki bob

OK Bob,
Fess up, is all the equipment in the back of your office?  That's what
Thurston suggested to me.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Frankie Stein and the Ghouls
Date: 08 Jul 1999 22:35:43 EDT


I've got this.  Great monster exploitation twist record.  Rocking.

--David


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Electro-Lounge
Date: 08 Jul 1999 23:16:33 -0400


I saw a CD today that looked quite intriguing - it's called
"Electro-Lounge", and appears to be remixes and cut-ups of all the
exotica "standards" (Quiet Village, Caravan, etc.) by well-known
electronica artists.  I didn't have a chance to listen to it in the
store, but I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has heard it, and
if it's worth picking up?

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From: jonathan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) the sOunD lOUngE 7.7.99
Date: 08 Jul 1999 20:47:37 -0700


This weeks SounD lOUnge was blessed with the presence of the by Mr. Byron
Caloz host of the Mr Smooth Show. We switched off back and forth and played
some records. It was quite a happening indeed!!!

In case you missed it, here's what was played.....

Don Cabelli---Ive Got you Under My Skin---Potent Percussion

Dick Haymes---Suffer---45 single

The Three Suns---Caravan---Movin' and Groovin'

Mel Henke---The Lively Ones---La Dolce Henke (CD)

Ross Bagdasarian---Naval Maneuver---The Mixed Up WOrld Of R.B.

Dick Hyman---Moon Gas---Moon Gas

Sid Bass---The Bell's Are Ringing---With Bells On

GLoria Wood---Hey Bell Boy---Ultra Lounge Sampler Vol.1 (CD)

Gary McFarland---Bloop Bleep---The In Sound

Belmonte---Baby Doll Mambo---Mambo at Midnight

John Evans---Cool Mambo---Exotic Percussion and Brilliant Brass

Danny Gulieloni---Mosquito Festival---Adventure in Sound

Friedel Berlip---Bossa FOr Sandy---Big Themes

ERnie Kovacs & Edie Adams--Indian Love Call---ERnie Kovacs Record
Collection(CD)

Irv Cottler---Oriental---Around the World in Percussion

Combustible Edison---Vertigogo---Four Rooms OST (CD)

Leroy Holmes---Hawaiian War Chant---Music of Hawaii

Bob Thompson---Do it Again---Mmm Nice!

Esquivel---Mucho Muchacha---Latin-esque

Ferrante & Teicher---Chopstick Cha Cha--Blast OFf (CD)

Martin Denny---Quiet Village Bossa Nova---The Verstile Martin Denny

Sir Julian---Caravan---Sir Julian


The SouNd LouNge  with host dJ fLInT
Wednesdays 9pm
KPSU 1450 AM
Portland Oregon
USA

Thanks for listening.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.!.

Thanks again Byron!!!!

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From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Chaino/Real World mystery solved
Date: 08 Jul 1999 20:52:06 -0000


>Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:35:52 -0700
>From: "Kevin C." <[e-mail]>
>
>Just found out that the exotica track on last week's Real World wasn't
>Combustible Edison, but was instead "Bad & Beautiful" from the Chaino
>Africana &
>Beyond CD!

Just a quick note to mention that the theme to the Ren & Stimpy
Show, "Dog Pound Hop" was inspired by Chaino's version of "Bongo
Rock". The composer and guitar picker on the song was Spumco's
own Jim Smith. You can stash that away on a 3 by 5 in your
exotica trivia file if you wish.

See ya
Steve


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From: Paul <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) in the news: loitering teenagers scared of Crosby
Date: 08 Jul 1999 23:51:11 +0100



that is not a new concept or practice actually.   here in some of
the seamier portions of hollywood calif, the 7-11 stores pump
classical music at near warp nine volume levels onto the walk area
and entrance to their stores.

i believe i had read almost ten years ago the dynamic was discovered
by happenstance by one giddy franchisee.

Paul Moshay
Toluca Lake, Calif.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) in the news: loitering teenagers scared of Crosby
Date: 09 Jul 1999 09:58:18 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

> > The community is also considering installing pink lighting which clearly
> >  shows pimples on teenagers' faces to discourage loitering.
>
> Am I a sadist for loving this idea?  Where can I get one for my living room
> so that my daughter and her boyfriend will willing scram instead of
> complaining when I want to play some of my fogey record (Bing included.)

First I didn't want to answer this, but now I have to tell you, that it's of
course not pink you need, but something greenish, like an ordinary neon. Pink
would make the pimples disappear perfectly.

Wise guy Mo





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Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 09 Jul 1999 10:08:11 +0200




[e-mail] wrote:

> Check this out!  It's the famed Kowloons we Boston denizens brag about so
> much!
>
> http://www.kowloonrestaurant.com/

Wow, great! Thanks for posting this. Do you know something about the place?
Was it renovated in recent times or did it always look like this?

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Subject: (exotica) Suono Moderni
Date: 09 Jul 1999 05:07:03 PDT


Anyone know anything about Suono Moderni, an album by Mark 4 on the Irma
label? sounds nice.
Also picked up a reissue of a single by Skull Snaps 'synthetic substitution'
anyone (Jimmybee?) know anything about them.
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Subject: (exotica) Skull Snaps
Date: 09 Jul 1999 13:15:39 +0100


I thought Synthetic Substitution is by Melvin Bliss. The Skull Snaps song
is Its a New Day - massive Hip Hop break. They are a funk bank with a
wicked self titled lp that is very hard to find although its now been
reissued a couple of times. Other than that - zip nada nothing.

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Subject: (exotica) Bob Thompson
Date: 09 Jul 1999 05:47:33 PDT


Anyone have a list of Bob Thompson lps? I have;
mmmm Nice
Just for Kicks
Soungs of couch and consultation

  and I'm aware of and searching for On The Rocks.

Any others I oughta know about?

Thanks

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 09 Jul 1999 05:52:49 -0700 (PDT)


Here in DC, we've lost Trader Vic's, but we've picked
up the Politiki (unfortunately, no interior shots):

http://www.politiki.com
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 09 Jul 1999 06:04:03 -0700 (PDT)


Wow, can you buy mugs there?  What exactly was Trader
Vic's?  It still exists in Atlanta, right?  Whaddabout
other places?
Jane"Mai Tai, or yours?" Fondle

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 09 Jul 1999 06:08:29 -0700 (PDT)


What was Trader Vic's? Tiki mecca! TV brought us the
mai-tai, the inauguration and ideal of the polynesian
lounge. I think TV's still exists in NY, SF, LA,
London.... We have a lister whose webpage contains
alot of Vic's lore, photos, mai-tai recipe's, etc...
perhaps he'll chime in for this one.

To digress... the coolest/oldest tiki mug in my
collection came out of "The Waikiki Lounge" in DC. No
one seems to have ever heard of the place.

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> Trader
> Vic's?  It still exists in Atlanta, right?
> Whaddabout
> other places?
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Subject: (exotica) Re:  Bob Thompson
Date: 09 Jul 1999 08:39:14 -0500


"The Sound of Speed"

http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/lp/Selections80.html





>Anyone have a list of Bob Thompson lps? I have;
>mmmm Nice
>Just for Kicks
>Soungs of couch and consultation
>
> and I'm aware of and searching for On The Rocks.
>
>Any others I oughta know about?


visit...

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 09 Jul 1999 08:23:50 -0400


> Wow, can you buy mugs there?  What exactly was Trader
> Vic's?  It still exists in Atlanta, right?

Trader Vics still exists in LA, Emeryville, Chicago, Atlanta and
overseas but I can testify that the Atlanta one is going downhill fast.

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Subject: (exotica) trader vics and lps
Date: 09 Jul 1999 09:43:34 EDT


>  What exactly was
> Trader
> Vic's?  It still exists in Atlanta, right?
> Whaddabout
> other places?
> Jane"Mai Tai, or yours?" Fondle

trader vics certainly still exists in atlanta. and you can all catch my
performance of my one man show 'bilegerant drunk' at trader vics on my 21st
birthday, (august7th {presents accepted and wanted})

on another note i picked a pretty good record, its called 'Jazz in The Space
age' by George Russell, and im enjoying it. anyong know anything about this
guy?

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Wow, great! Thanks for posting this. Do you know something about the place?
Was it renovated in recent times or did it always look like this?

>>>I have only lived in Boston for two years, so I dunno...Ol' timers like
Cleve and DJJimmyBee might know...As far as I can tell, it's the real
THANG, tho...You should see all this stuff up close, it'll make you cry!

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Subject: (exotica) Teenage Monster Rock au-go-go question
Date: 09 Jul 1999 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT)


Somebody on the Exotica list posed a question about
Frank E. Stein...Those Monster Rock records are:
a. So @$!*&($%( hard to find...
b.  A MINT when you do, unless you luck out...

So, other than Zacharly, is there other MONSTER
ROCKSPLOITATION in print on either CD, vinyl, or
8-track stereo?
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Teenage Monster Rock au-go-go question
Date: 09 Jul 1999 07:00:58 -0700 (PDT)


The Deadly Ones: Monster Surfin' Time (the vintage lp
is currently up on eBay, but I believe you can order a
cd 2fer -Ake Aleong&Nobles- from Doychland's Surf
label).  If we're not talking strictly vintage, The
Fuzztones put out a cd of monster-covers a few years
back (can't recall the title now). And there's Bob
McFadden and Dor's The Mummy, which I belive is on one
of the ISM discs.

--- Jane Fondle <[e-mail]> wrote:

> So, other than Zacharly, is there other MONSTER
> ROCKSPLOITATION in print on either CD, vinyl, or
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Subject: (exotica) Bye, bye, Mr. Astronaut
Date: 09 Jul 1999 10:15:47 -0400


I'm sure Lou will post the obit, but I am greatly saddened by the death=
 of
Moon Astronaut Charles ?Pete? Conrad Jr., who was the third man to walk=
 on
the moon.  He died after a motorcycle accident in California. He was
69.(great number!)
Anyway, let's all raise a toast to this space pioneer and blast FANTAST=
ICA
or MUSIC OUT OF THE MOON or SONG OF THE SECOND MOON and honour a space
hero, who suffered an ironically terrestrial death..
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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Skull Snaps
Date: 09 Jul 1999 07:31:42 PDT


Whoops! pardon me, yeah you must be talking about the alpha omega 12"
reissue i bought, skull snaps were just on my mind as i heard them on the
radio last night. massive for soul breaks alright. but that song synthetic
substitution is beautiful (despite the mastered from vinyl quality). so,
what do you know about melvin bliss then?
thanks
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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Skull Snaps
Date: 09 Jul 1999 15:40:13 +0100


Melvin Bliss' Synthetic Substitution is a 7" from around 1976. I think its
a B side. Ummmmmmm........ thats it I'm afraid.

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Subject: (exotica) Bye, bye, Mr. Astronaut
Date: 09 Jul 1999 11:13:29 -0500


>From: <[e-mail]>
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>I'm sure Lou will post the obit, but I am greatly saddened by the death of
>Moon Astronaut Charles ?Pete? Conrad Jr., who was the third man to walk on
>the moon.

    OJAI, Calif., July 8 (UPI) -- Charles ``Pete'' Conrad, Jr., the third man
to walk on the moon, has been killed in a motorcycle accident. He was 69.
    The California Highway Patrol reports that Conrad was riding a motorcycle
Thursday afternoon when he lost control and ran off the road near Ojai,
northwest of Los Angeles. Authorities say Conrad was thrown from the vehicle
and suffered massive internal injuries. He died about six hours later at a
hospital.
    Conrad flew four missions for NASA, spending more than 1,180 hours in
space. He most visible trip came on Apollo 12, when he became the third man
to step on the moon. He also flew two Gemini missions and spent a
then-record 28 days in space aboard Skylab 2 in 1973.
    Most recently, Conrad was working with a company planning to make vacations
in space available to the public.
    Conrad is one of just 12 men to have walked on the moon. His was an almost
stereotypical image of a daring, devil-may-care astronaut with a penchant
for race cars and water skiing.
    ``Funny, noisy, colorful, cool, competent; snazzy dresser, race-car
driver,'' astronaut Michael Collins wrote describing Conrad. ``One of the
few who lives up to the image. Should play Pete Conrad in a Pete Conrad
movie.''
    Conrad only enhanced that image when he left his spacecraft and stepped
onto the lunar surface, saying, ``Whoopee! That may have been one small
(step) for Neil (Armstrong), but it's a long one for me!''
    In the 1970s, Conrad appeared in a series of television commercials for
American Express, asking, ``Do you known me? I walked on the moon.''
    ``Up until that time,'' Conrad told author Andrew Chaikin in his 1994 book
``A Man on the Moon,'' ``I could go anywhere, and nobody knew me. I did that
American Express commercial, and while that sumbitch was running, I couldn't
take a leak -- I remember trying to take a leak in Philadelphia and a guy
standing there says 'I know you!'''
    Conrad was born June 2, 1930, in Philadelphia. He received a bachelor of
science degree in aeronautical engineering from Princeton University in
1953, when he joined the Navy to become a pilot.
    Conrad attended the Navy Test Pilot School at Patuxent River, Md., and
later served as a flight instructor and test pilot at the fabled training
facility.
    He was selected to become an astronaut in September 1962. His first flight
came on Aug. 21, 1965, when he and Gordon Cooper, one of the original seven
astronauts, blasted off aboard Gemini 5.
    The duo established a space endurance record of 190 hours and 56 minutes in
orbit, which pushed the United States ahead of the Soviet Union for the
first time in the number of man hours in space for each country.
    Conrad, Gordon and Alan Bean blasted off aboard Apollo 12 for the second
manned flight to the moon on Nov. 14, 1969.
    With Gordon orbiting overhead in the command module, Conrad and Bean
executed a pinpoint touchdown in the moon's Ocean of Storms within a stone's
throw of an old robot Surveyor spacecraft that touched down on the lunar
surface in April 1967.
    ``Hey, there it is! There it is! Son of a gun, right down the middle of the
road,'' Conrad radioed as the lander, named Intrepid, began its final descent.
    Conrad was first out of the Intrepid followed moments later by Bean.
    The two spent seven hours and 45 minutes strolling about, collecting
samples of rock and lunar soil, deploying experiment packages and snipping
off parts of Surveyor for return to Earth to determine the long-term effects
of the lunar environment.
    Conrad returned to space on May 25, 1973, as commander of the first Skylab
space station mission. His crewmates were Joseph Kerwin and Paul Weitz.
    When the giant space station was launched May 14, 1973, a micrometeoroid
shield that also served to reflect heat from the craft ripped away.
Compounding the space station's problems, a solar wing was jammed and
refused to deploy. But engineers quickly devised a scheme for Conrad's crew
to repair the spacecraft.
    The astronauts were able to erect a blanket-like parasol over the portion
of the space station exposed to the sun and they freed the jammed solar
panel during a spacewalk.
    In the end, the crew completed 46 of 55 scheduled experiments before
returning to Earth on June 22, 1973.
    After serving 11 years as an astronaut, Conrad retired and became vice
president of American Television and Communications Corp. of Denver.
    In 1976, the veteran astronaut became a vice president for international
sales of McDonnell Douglas Astronautics Corp. and was promoted in 1980 to
senior vice president for marketing.
    From 1991 to 1993, he helped develop and test the DC-X ``Delta Clipper''
reusable rocket, an unmanned, sub-scale prototype of a proposed manned
single-stage-to-orbit launcher.
    His 1953 marriage to former Jane DuBose, ended in divorce. In 1990, he
married the former Nancy Fortner, an editor he met on a blind date. Between
them, the couple had five grown sons. A sixth, Conrad's youngest, died of
cancer in 1990 at age 29. Conrad and his wife lived in Huntington Beach, Calif.

    OJAI, Calif. (AP) -- Former astronaut Charles P. ``Pete'' Conrad, who in
1969 became the third man to walk on the moon, uttering an exuberant
``Whoopie!'' as he stepped on the lunar surface, died in a motorcycle
accident. He was 69.
    Conrad, who also flew two Gemini missions in the 1960s and commanded first
Skylab mission in 1973, crashed on a turn yesterday on Highway 150 near Ojai
and died five hours later at Ojai Valley Community Hospital.
    Conrad, who lived in Huntington Beach near Los Angeles, was on a trip to
Monterey with his wife, Nancy, and friends, Ventura County Deputy Coroner
James Baroni said.
    Baroni said Conrad's injuries didn't initially appear to be severe, but he
got worse after arriving at the hospital. He had some chest pain and had
more trouble breathing.
    ``He showed that he had some type of internal bleeding and they needed to
do exploratory surgery,'' Baroni said. But doctors were unable to revive him.
    Just this spring, Conrad joked that he was looking forward to the day he
would turn 77.
    ``I fully expect that NASA will send me back to the moon, as they treated
Sen. (John) Glenn. And if they don't do otherwise, why, then I'll have to do
it myself,'' he declared.
    Glenn became the oldest person in space at age 77 aboard the shuttle
Discovery last year. Like Glenn, Conrad's passion for space exploration
never diminished. In 1995, he formed several companies with the goal of
commercializing space.
    ``He was going back to space as an entrepreneur, trying to create ways for
rockets to launch inexpensively and manage satellites,'' Mrs. Conrad said
Thursday evening.
    NASA selected Conrad, an aeronautical engineer and Navy test pilot, as an
astronaut in 1962, three years after the first seven astronauts were
announced. He piloted the eight-day Gemini 5 mission in 1965, which set an
endurance record in orbiting the earth. A year later, Conrad commanded
Gemini 11, which docked with another craft during orbit and set a space
altitude record of 850 miles.
    As commander of the Apollo 12 mission in November 1969, Conrad earned the
distinction of being the third man to walk on the moon after bringing the
lunar module down in the moon's Ocean of Storms.
    The first two moonwalkers were Neil Armstrong and Edwin ``Buzz'' Aldrin,
who landed there 30 years ago this month, on July 20, 1969. Armstrong's
first words became famous: ``That's one small step for (a) man, one giant
leap for mankind.''
    When the 5-foot-6 Conrad stepped onto the surface four months later, he
exclaimed with his trademark sense of humor: ``Whoopie! That may have been a
small one for Neil, but that's a long one for me.''
    Conrad and astronaut Alan Bean spent seven hours and 45 minutes on the
lunar surface. Among their tasks was installing a nuclear power generating
station to provide a power source for long-term experiments.
    During the 28-day Skylab flight in May-June 1973, Conrad established a
personal endurance record for time in space by bringing his total flight
time to 1,179 hours and 38 minutes. He called his last mission in space the
most satisfying, working to repair the damage Skylab suffered during its
liftoff.
    After retiring from NASA and the Navy in 1973, he worked as chief operating
officer of American Television and Communications Corp. in Denver and later
for McDonnell Douglas Corp., the aviation manufacturer.
    Among his numerous awards were the Congressional Space Medal of Honor, two
NASA Distinguished Service Medals, two NASA Exceptional Service Medals, two
Navy Distinguished Service Medals and two Distinguished Flying Crosses. He
was enshrined in the Aviation Hall of Fame in 1980.
    The Philadelphia native is the third of the 12 original moon walkers to
die. James Irwin of Apollo 15 died in 1991 and Alan Shepard of Apollo 14
died a year ago.
    In reflecting on the upcoming 30th anniversary of Apollo 11, Conrad
recently said, ``Time flies when you're having fun, and I've been having fun
for the last 30 years.''
    Conrad, who divorced his first wife, is survived by his second wife, three
sons and seven grandchildren. A son preceded him in death.
    Funeral arrangements were pending.




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 09 Jul 1999 17:20:57 +0200


Jane Fondle wrote:

> Wow, can you buy mugs there?  What exactly was Trader Vic's?

Check out the one in Munich:

http://home.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/tradermain.html


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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 09 Jul 1999 08:28:15 -0700 (PDT)


now THAT is valhalla.


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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Harmonica Rascals (was Pleasant Suprise)
Date: 09 Jul 1999 10:41:38 -0500


Ross wrote: >Wait!  I remembered one! _Borrah Minnevitch and His Harmonica
Rascals_ (King Records).

Don't have THAT disk but do have _The Harmonica Rascals_ on Grand Prix.
Worth getting cheap for Sabre Dance and the cover pix: Three Rascals
wearing boat captain hats are mobbed by the cast of "Terror in Tiny Town,"
(correct?) the only all-midget, excuse me, the only all Little-People
western. One, done up in denim, plays a harmonica. So did the Rascals
include a Little Person?

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From: [e-mail] (Eric Marvin)
Subject:   (exotica) trader vics and lps
Date: 09 Jul 1999 08:40:17 -0700



     I work less than a mile from the Emeryville Trader Vics and have
     lunched there a couple of times.  Good environs, nice decor, very
     Polynesian - coconuts, bamboo, grass skirts (not on the help tho') and
     mugs.  I do not recall if they sold mugs - not my gig.  Food is Ok if
     not too expensive and the service is definitely throwback.  Each meal
     includes a waiter, a server, a busser, a wine guy, a bread guy, a "get
     a new napkin" guy, and many others I did not know what they did.  We
     must have had 6 or 7 different people serve, wait, ask or deliver food
     and various other items.

     They didn't have music at lunch and I did not notice any announcements
     for entertainment, but then again I wasn't looking.

     Overall - Medium tiki experience.


     Eric

     ps - "tiki" comes up "tick" in my spell check.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Kowloons
Date: 09 Jul 1999 11:11:52 EDT


In a message dated 7/9/99 9:46:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Wow, great! Thanks for posting this. Do you know something about the place?
>  Was it renovated in recent times or did it always look like this?
>
>  >>>I have only lived in Boston for two years, so I dunno...Ol' timers like
>  Cleve and DJJimmyBee might know...As far as I can tell, it's the real
>  THANG, tho...You should see all this stuff up close, it'll make you cry!

I'm a Bostonian from '82 to '93 I think my first visit to the Tiki Lagoon/
Volcano Bay room was mid '80s and it looked pretty much as you see it in the
picture.  The front of the restaurant has changed with the times (adding a
Thai sub-restaurant) but this part of the place is as I remember it.  I
always liked the thatched hut that stands in the middle of the room and the
volcanos off on the horizon, plus the outer Edifice Rex, is a true thing to
behold.

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Electro-Lounge
Date: 09 Jul 1999 11:01:58 -0500



cheryl wrote:

> I saw a CD today that looked quite intriguing - it's called
> "Electro-Lounge", and appears to be remixes and cut-ups of all the
> exotica "standards" (Quiet Village, Caravan, etc.) by well-known
> electronica artists.  I didn't have a chance to listen to it in the
> store, but I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has heard it, and
> if it's worth picking up?

I know it's been mentioned in here recently, but, as usual, I wasn't paying
attention. Perhaps some kind soul will point you to (and remind me of) the
location of the exotica archives...

FWIW, I heard the April Stevens cut on the radio the other day, and I wasn't
that thrilled with it.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Kowloon
Date: 09 Jul 1999 12:07:32 EDT


Sorry for all the little >>>>>>>>'s.  message bounce -- THOSE DAMN MIMES ! ! !

> In a message dated 7/9/99 1:08:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [e-mail] writes:
>
>  << [e-mail] wrote:
>
>   > Check this out!  It's the famed Kowloons we Boston denizens brag about
so
>   > much!
>   >
>   > http://www.kowloonrestaurant.com/
>
>   Wow, great! Thanks for posting this. Do you know something about the
place?
>   Was it renovated in recent times or did it always look like this?
>
>   Mo >>
>
>  More specifically, check out The Wongs Page (the owners) by clicking on
The
> Wongs.  The text reads:
>
>  "Kowloon Restaurant, with a capacity of 1200 seats, was established by the
> Wong Family in 1948 and has grown to become one of the premier
multi-concept
> dining establishments in the United States."
>
>  And there is a lovely picture of the Wong clan -- all smiling and happy
> looking.
>
>  I don't know about the rest of you, but this picture brings a warm, fuzzy
> feeling to old Tiki Bob's heart.  The story Tiki Bob likes to hear.
> Immigrants to the US who have done well over the genrarations all the while
> providing an exciting themed resturant venue for thousands to enjoy.
>
>  Unfortunately, these family owner restruants have slowly been weeded out
by
> the big franchise resturants.  I wish the Wongs the best of luck with there
> very special, tiki themed restruant.  And I look forward to the day when I
> can visit them.
>
>  Tiki Bob
>
>  (I am forwarding a copy of this to the Kowloon email address)
>


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ATC on SUSHI 4004
Date: 09 Jul 1999 12:17:13 -0500


Last nite's edition of National Public Radio's All Things Considered (NPR's
ATC) ended the show with a piece on the newly issued Sushi 4004 compilation:


http://programs.npr.org/npr2/PrgDisp.cfm?PrgDate=07/8/1999&PrgID=2
An index of the day's stories:
 <<skip to bottom>>
Sushi 4004 -- Music reviewer Will Hermes takes on a tour of pop music in
Japan. A new compilation called Sushi Four-Thousand-Four, is full of sweet,
hi-tech clubpop music. Some is very good, and some fairly frivolous. (4:30)

0 1.  Bowlers In Space - Midnight Bowlers
0 2.  You Are My Music - Hi-Posi
0 3.  S'il Vous Plait - Fantastic Plastic Machine
0 4.  2300 Hawaii - Yoshinori Sunahara
0 5.  K2 - Man From Electone
0 6.  Alcohol - Kahimi Karie
0 7.  Yukarin' Disco - Yukari Fresh
0 8.  Samba De Sunny Side Up - Collette3
0 9.  Lait Au Miel - Oh! Penelope
10.  Fantastic Cat - Takako Minekawa
11.  Some Kinds Of Love - DOB
12.  Hello Baby - Sweet Robots Against The Machine
13.  Tragedy Of The Softrocker - Neil & Iraiza
14.  Drive Music - Qypthone
15.  The Microdisneycal World Tour (Sean O'Hagan Mix) - Cornelius
16.  Lesson 3003 (Part 1) - Pizzicato Five







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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) the sOunD lOUngE 7.7.99/MFBL and MwM
Date: 09 Jul 1999 13:51:55 -0400


>This weeks SounD lOUnge was blessed with the presence of the by Mr. Byro=
n
>Caloz host of the Mr Smooth Show. We switched off back and forth and pla=
yed
>some records. It was quite a happening indeed!!!


-jonathan and Mr Smooth:

Nice to see people from the list getting together, and it's happening aga=
in.

Peter Ledebur has graciously invited me on his show Music for Better Livi=
ng
on
Wednesday July 14th 6-7 PM. Broadcasting on WZBC 90.3.
He=92s going to let me pick the music, but please tell him to exercise hi=
s
power to veto any selections. Peter, I=92ll promise not to try to play an=
y
Patsy Cline  ;=92)
I have not met Peter yet, but he seems too modest to mention that you can
hear his excellent show every week over the net, info at his station's we=
b
page.
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/svp/st_org/wzbc/

My unfocused program =93Martinis With Mancini" broadcasts Friday's from 6=
-9
AM. WJUL 91.5, Lowell Massachusetts. Just northwest of Boston.


My show=92s web page: http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Booth/8007/

I'll be away from the computer next week. So ya all have a nice one! I'll
miss you.

FYI: Todays playlist:
It Could Happen To You, Bjork
Nature Boy, Dan Moretti
Chattanooga Choo Choo, The Kai Winding Trombones
Lets Fall In Love, Diana Krall
L.O.V.E., John Pizzarelli
A Lavender Moon, Ray Anthony
I Can=92t Give You Anything But Love, Mel Torme
Buonasera (Signorina) Adriano Celentano
I Love You , Paul Combs
Squid Man Stomp, Made In The Shade
Black Satin, George Shearing
You Don=92t Know What Love Is, George Shearing
Nothing Ever Changes My Love For You, George Shearing
If I Ever Leave You, Les Brown
I=92m Thru With Love, Tony Bennett
Deep Purple, King Sisters
Two For The Blues, Lambert Hendricks And Ross
Hawaiiann War Chant, Les Elgart
Boogie Woogie, Les Elgart
Begin The Beguine, Bob Keene
Do Nothing Till You Hear From Me, Nina Simone
The Bare Necessities, The Jungle Book
The Boy From Ipanema, Peggy Lee, UL
Intermission Riff, Stan Kenton
True Love, Patsy Cline
Eniugh For You, Ron Sunshine And Full Swing, Hipsters Zoots And Wingtips
Lost In A Summer Night, June Christy
Pagan Love Song, George Cates
Brazil, Ray Ellis Big Band Big Voices
Oh Babe, Love Dogs
One Note Samba, Antonio Carlos Jobim
Mojave, Antonio Carlos Jobim
An Afternoon Affair, Verrill Keene
Black Coffee, Julie London
Music To Watch Girls By, Benny Golson
Baby But You Did, Ray Anthony
Goldfinger, Shorley Bassey OST Goldfinger
La Paloma, Esquivel
Sabor A Nada, The Tampicos
Pachito E-Che Perez Prado
Peter Gunn, Sarah Vaughan
Something For Cat, Four Piece Suit, Shot In The Dark Comp
On The Ginza, Jungle Jive Comp
Miselou, The Lively Ones, Surf Monsters Comp
Always In My Heart, Xavier Cugat
Manic Mistic Part 1, Avocado
Winoweh, Yma Sumac
Quiet Village, Martin Denny
Caravan, The Three Suns
The Godfather Finale, OST The Godfather
Yoda=92s Theme, Evil Empire Orchestra, Cocktails In The Cantina
Do You Know The Way To San Jose, Seks Bomba
Jumpin Jive, Joe Jackson
I Want You To Be My Baby, Louis Jordan
You Are My Sunshine, Ray Charles
Theme From The Tiki Wonder Room, Combustible Edison
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Gentleman's Companion
Date: 09 Jul 1999 11:37:34 -0700 (PDT)


I just bought a copy of this on the www - for less
than the 1st volume ended up going for on eBay -

Charles H. Baker: Gentleman's Companion vol 1 and 2,
Being an Exotic Cookery Book/Drinking Book NY Crown
1946

Apparently Charles sailed the 7 seas and brought back
not only grog/grub recipes, but also colorful
anecdotes regarding local preparation techniques,
dining etiquette, etc.

If you find it, grab it (even if you don't like to
cook).

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From: "Kevin C." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro-Lounge
Date: 09 Jul 1999 12:42:25 -0700


cheryl wrote:
>
> I saw a CD today that looked quite intriguing - it's called
> "Electro-Lounge", and appears to be remixes and cut-ups of all the
> exotica "standards" (Quiet Village, Caravan, etc.) by well-known
> electronica artists.  I didn't have a chance to listen to it in the
> store, but I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has heard it, and
> if it's worth picking up?

Maybe, if you're into electronica. I sampled a few of the songs and all I know
is that the version of Hypnotique had about two seconds of recognizable sound
samples from the Martin Denny version.

Kevin Crossman
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From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lawrence Welk (anna won anna too)
Date: 09 Jul 1999 12:47:52 -0000


>I usually stay away from Dot but last night I found in a
> used furniture shop: Lawrence Welk presents George Cates
>Polynesian Percussion, Dot DLP 25355 Every track a winner,
>hard driving Latino tinged Polynesian exotica. -Domenic

Lawrence Welk is one of the most underrated musicians I know.
I have yet to hear one of his albums on the Coral label that I
don't like, and "Pick A Polka" is on my all-time favorites
list (mostly for one loopy cut... "Chicken Polka"). The early
Welk records sound a lot like the music in old Terrrytoons
(Heckle and Jeckyl, Mighty Mouse, Gandy Goose, et al). Lots
of eastern European sounding clarinets, peppy accordians and
the weirdest organ sound this side of the Three Suns.

As a kid I was lucky enough to meet old Lawrence. He was
*exactly* the same person as he appeared to be on TV...
a real monster of a freak!

See ya
Steve


      Stephen Worth
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Trader Vic's Atlanta
Date: 09 Jul 1999 15:43:25 EDT


Tiki Bob always tries to find the asphalt path that leads to Trader Vic's in
Atlanta while on safari in that area.  I will report that the last few visits
to Vic's Atlanta have me wondering when that watering hole will close.

Vic's Atlanta is in the "basement" of the Hilton Hotel in downtown Atlanta.
Now downtown Atlanta is, believe it or not, off the beaten path.  You have to
be going to the Hilton (or Vic's) to get there.  You don't pass by Vic's on
your way to anywhere.  And this has resulted in the place being dead the last
few time we have gone.

They do sell mugs at the Atlanta Vic's but you have to ask.  The last time
the bartender told me, "I don't know if we sell the mugs or not.  No one ever
asked."  She checked with her manager and he said I could have all I wanted
at 4 bucks a piece.  I spent about 60 bucks on mugs.

As a side note:  There is a mug that I call the "Fornication Mug" that has
whitish men chasing "island-ish" women and engaging them in various acts of
"merriment".  (it's not real graphic so don't get all excited)  Anyway, the
mug has "Trader Vic's 63" on the bottom which means the mugs were designed
(not made) in 1963.  There are Ebay sellers touting these as mugs as MADE in
1963 (Ooo! Vintage!!) and the bidding usually tops 40 bucks!!!  So be careful
if you are still adding to your mug collection.

Back to the report,  the Vic's Atlanta is beautifully decorated and the
Chinese oven always smells spectacular.  Still the place is deserted.
Additionally, most of the people staying at the Hilton (usually for
conventions) go out of the hotel to eat.  Most aren't convinced that the
hotel they are staying at would have a good restaurant.  Plus, the food is
expensive.  I don't think there is a dinner entree under 20 bucks.  And
appetizers are over $ 10.00.

Final note, many of the people I see there when I go are sporting Hawaiian
shirts and obviously know the Vic's experience.  Tiki Bob ALWAYS wears
tiki-ish garb to Vic's and exchanges a thumbs up sign to similarly clad
patrons.  A nod of approval is always reciprocated.

Hope this was helpful for those following this thread.

Reporting from the bush,

Tiki Bob


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From: "Kevin C." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki site
Date: 09 Jul 1999 12:50:27 -0700


Jane Fondle wrote:
>
> Wow, can you buy mugs there?  What exactly was Trader
> Vic's?  It still exists in Atlanta, right?  Whaddabout
> other places?
> Jane"Mai Tai, or yours?" Fondle

This page has an up-to-date list (note: Vancouver closed last month...)

http://www.tradervics.com/restaur1a.htm

-Kevin Crossman
The Search for the Ultimate Mai Tai
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) your friend
Date: 09 Jul 1999 15:55:19 -0500


 _The Mercury Theatre on the Air_ [RealPlayer]
http://www.unknown.nu/mercury/

Most famous for its _War of the Worlds_ broadcast, this New York drama
company, founded by Orson Welles and John Houseman, produced a number of
highly acclaimed radio-adapted dramas in its brief tenure (July-December
1938). Created and maintained by Kim Scarborough, this site is a treasure
trove for fans of radio drama, featuring all of the surviving _Mercury
Theatre_ programs in their entirety in both streaming and downloadable
RealPlayer format. In addition to the _War of the Worlds_, highlights
include _Julius Caesar_ (set in Fascist Italy), _The 39 Steps_, _Heart of
Darkness_, and _The Pickwick Papers_. In December 1938, _Mercury Theatre_
was picked up by Campbell Soup and became _Campbell Playhouse_. The site
includes five programs from _Campbell Playhouse_ (with plans to add more
gradually) as well as a seven-part radio series of _Les Miserables_ that was
written, produced, and directed by Orson Welles in 1937, and featured many
of the _Mercury_ players. A brief history of the _Mercury_ and complete show
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From: Paul McKay <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Trader Vic's Atlanta
Date: 09 Jul 1999 14:53:10 -0400


Yes, the Trader Vics in Atlanta is almost always deserted and is almost
unknown even amongst lifelong Atlanta residents. I am constantly finding
even hardcore Tiki collecting types who don't know it is there. I
wouldn't say it is that remote, certainly not from my midtown apartment
where I can see the Hilton from my sunroom, but it is in an area where
most people don't think to go at night.

I have had several great experiences there but recently, over the past
couple of months, I have seen the service and professionalism of the
staff deteriorate rapidly. Most drinks are no longer served in mugs, the
larger drinks will be served in ceramic conch shells and the regular
ones in glass tumblers or Collins glasses. Their sale cabinet is
unstocked and I can no longer buy mugs, ash trays, plates, drink mixes
or, really, anything. Since my favorite bartender (Becky) quit the bar
staff is unreliable and undertrained (the day when I have to tell a
Trader Vics bartender how to make a Mai Tai from scratch is a dark one)
and table service has become terrible (I had a 45 wait for a botched
drink order last weekend). I will give them one more chance but I have
gone from demanding that all of my friends go with me to being hesitant
to recommend it to anybody new.



--
Paul McKay
Assistant Engineer

Institute of Paper Science and Technology
500 10TH ST NW
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From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Electro-Lounge
Date: 09 Jul 1999 16:15:44 -0400


No, it is really mostly all electro with minimal lounge.
 but its diamond in the rough (and why i still own it)
is the excellent experimental jungle/trip hop cover of SWAY with Dean
Martin and
Julie London. Remixed by the Rip-Off Artist.

bumpin in

>I saw a CD today that looked quite intriguing - it's called
>"Electro-Lounge", and appears to be remixes and cut-ups of all the
>exotica "standards" (Quiet Village, Caravan, etc.) by well-known
>electronica artists.  I didn't have a chance to listen to it in the
>store, but I'm wondering if anyone else on this list has heard it, and
>if it's worth picking up?

********************************
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Defective Records
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Lawrence Welk (anna won anna too)
Date: 09 Jul 1999 16:28:50 -0400






Lawrence Welk is one of the most underrated musicians I know.
I have yet to hear one of his albums on the Coral label that I
don't like, and "Pick A Polka" is on my all-time favorites
list (mostly for one loopy cut... "Chicken Polka"). The early
Welk records sound a lot like the music in old Terrrytoons
(Heckle and Jeckyl, Mighty Mouse, Gandy Goose, et al). Lots
of eastern European sounding clarinets, peppy accordians and
the weirdest organ sound this side of the Three Suns.


>>>Hmmm...I might have to revisit my earlier notions of Welk...Joseph Lanza
mentions in ELEVATOR MUSIC(and I will way paraphrase, as it's home) that
The Lawrence Welk Show helped to lay the aesthetic framework for the
noveau-cocktail nation.  And I always did like that album cover where ol'
Larry's head is in a bubbly glass.  Moreover, being a fan of Raymond Scott
and Carl Stalling...if his records are like that musically...well...I'll
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) CHAINO, SAD NEWS
Date: 09 Jul 1999 16:33:56 EDT


Hi,

I just spoke with Kirby Allen who told me that Chaino passed away yesterday,
July 8, at the age of 71 of a heart attack, the result of surgery to remove a
brain tumor.

Chaino was born in Philly, raised in Chicago, then came to LA, where he met
Kirby Allan.

I'm getting a list from Kirby of TV and movies from the early 60s that
featured Chaino and Kirby's music or screen appearences.

Chaino and Kirby appear in two films, "The Devil's Hand", and "Nighttide."

Sorry for the bad news folks.

Lee Joseph
Dionysus Records
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Subject: Re: (exotica) CHAINO, SAD NEWS
Date: 09 Jul 1999 17:06:35 -0400








Hi,
I just spoke with Kirby Allen who told me that Chaino passed away
yesterday,
July 8, at the age of 71 of a heart attack, the result of surgery to remove
a
brain tumor.
Chaino was born in Philly, raised in Chicago, then came to LA, where he met
Kirby Allan.
I'm getting a list from Kirby of TV and movies from the early 60s that
featured Chaino and Kirby's music or screen appearences.
Chaino and Kirby appear in two films, "The Devil's Hand", and "Nighttide."
Sorry for the bad news folks.
Lee Joseph
Dionysus Records
(any replys, please send to [e-mail])


Oh, Lee!  That is sad!  I had just posed the question to you and the list
about if Chaino's whereabouts were known these days...and now this.... I
hope he knows how many of us loved him...I for one, am grateful that you
put out that wonderful comp!
Jane Fondle



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Subject: Re: (exotica) CHAINO, SAD NEWS
Date: 09 Jul 1999 17:14:27 -0400



all i can say is in the words of CHAINO

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGH!!!!!!!!

that really is sad cuz for one, i did not know he was alive!

i have fond memories of blaring the Dionysus CD from our 9th floor
beachfront condo balcony for all to hear at sunset last year.
oh, what sweet echoes.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Lawrence Welk (anna won anna too)
Date: 09 Jul 1999 17:09:21 EDT


In a message dated 7/9/99 12:46:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< >I usually stay away from Dot but last night I found in a
 > used furniture shop: Lawrence Welk presents George Cates
 >Polynesian Percussion, Dot DLP 25355 Every track a winner,
 >hard driving Latino tinged Polynesian exotica. -Domenic

 Lawrence Welk is one of the most underrated musicians I know. >>


I love that Cates' ablum and every time it comes up for discussion I remember
when I discovered it about 2 years ago and one list member described it as
too "pedestrian".

Well, I just keep strolling and humming to this great album.

And other than "producing" the album, I don't think Welk had any input or
involvement with the album.

Finally,  notice that Cates' photo on the back of the album looks like our
very own Otto von Stroheim (sorry Otto -- I always have to bring this up)

Hidden in the bush (from Otto),

Tiki Bob


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Subject: (exotica) in the news
Date: 09 Jul 1999 17:15:06 -0500


   NEW YORK, July 8 (AFP) - Superstar singer Madonna is considering taking
Marko Milosevic, son of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, to court for
naming a club after her, the New York Daily News reported Thursday.
   "I hope he has a good lawyer," Madonna's spokeswoman Liz Rosenberg said,
even though Milosevic's club is actually named "Madona."
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Former teen idol Leif Garrett showed up in court a day
early in hopes of avoiding jail time on cocaine and heroin charges.
    Garrett, 37, was scheduled to be arraigned this morning, but he and his
attorney made a surprise appearance in court late yesterday. They asked the
court to order a report to determine Garrett's eligibility for a diversion
program that would mean drug counseling instead of jail time.
    A judge set an Aug. 13 hearing.
    The former child actor and '70s singing sensation was one of several people
arrested June 29 during a sting at an apartment building known for drug
activity. He was charged with cocaine and heroin possession.
    He is free on $10,000 bail.
    Garrett recently finished work on a film called ``Art of the Bullet,''
scheduled for release next month.
    LONDON (AP) -- After more than two decades of unwed and perhaps
never-really-wedded togetherness, Rolling Stone lead singer Mick Jagger and
Jerry Hall announced Friday that they are seeking to have their marriage
annulled.
    Hall and the Texas-born model reached a ``mutually acceptable legal and
financial settlement'' after a 12-minute court hearing, attorneys for both
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Subject: (exotica) Re: Skull Snaps
Date: 09 Jul 1999 19:45:54 EDT



In a message dated 7/9/99 8:08:24 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Also picked up a reissue of a single by Skull Snaps 'synthetic substitution'
>anyone (Jimmybee?) know anything about them.
>rob

Hi Rob et al......"The Skull Snaps on GSF Records AND on Grill Records, same
group, two different labels. "Its A New Day" sucks, its the flip you want;
its kinda uptempo, but its good to Very Good..."   Eddie B, Boston Soul 45
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bob Thompson
Date: 09 Jul 1999 18:05:12 +0000


At 05:47 AM 09-07-99 PDT, "Heavy Kevy" wrote:
>Anyone have a list of Bob Thompson lps?
I have a compilation LP which has some Bob Thompson cuts which
I have never seen on a vinyl album.  In fact, I believe the selections
were put on the Ultra Lounge series *without* his name attached.

Yet in "Highlights Staged For Stereo, Capitol STAC-1638, there are
two great cuts by "Bob Thompson's Battery."  They are "Istanbul" and
"It Happened in Monterey."  This album, by the way, is the only one
I know of that came in a gray and clear pastic case very much like what CDs
come in these days.

Mine did not have any paper inserts or cover...was there anything
other than the cool plastic cover and record?

Byron

Byron Caloz
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Lawrence Welk (anna won anna too)
Date: 09 Jul 1999 23:01:20 -0400


Coincidentally, today I saw an old TV gossip magazine with a cover story on the scandal of Lawrence Welk keeping Jo Ann Castle separated from her family! Tch tch tch.

m.ace  [e-mail]
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From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Teenage Monster Rock au-go-go question
Date: 09 Jul 1999 20:16:38 -0700


There are 2 CDs called "Monster Sounds and Boppin' Tracks" that are =
quite good.  I also have a couple of decent Halloween-type CDs that I =
can't lay my hands on right now....

Jerry

-----Original Message-----
So, other than Zacharly, is there other MONSTER
ROCKSPLOITATION in print on either CD, vinyl, or
8-track stereo?
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Monster Au Go Go
Date: 10 Jul 1999 00:38:28 EDT


The two best Monster exploitation records on CD, btw, are both on Buffalo
Bop.  Horror Hop and Monster Bop are both worth the extra shekels.
Incredible tunes like "At the House of Frankenstein" by Big Bee Kornegay (R&B
lead vocal, doo wop chorus, goosed with lots of jazzy guitar at high speed)
and "Vampira" (lewdish rockabilly).


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Decline of the Trader Vic's empire
Date: 10 Jul 1999 16:55:44 +0200


Sad evening at the Trader Vic's Munich

While showing "our" Vic's to friends visiting from Hamburg I had to
notice some changes to the worse since I was last there:

First of all: The prices have increased drastically. A "Zombie" is
21.-DM now, which is 11,35 US $. I really like to know the price of the
the Zombie in America, and ask for your help, US-listees, but I doubt it
can be that much.

Second: There are only two mugs left, that you could relate to the
original idea of Tiki/Exotica mugs; this skull cup for the hot drinks
and the harbor light mug. All others have entirely disappeared.

Third: The music played on that evening was like the lowest point in all
Trader Vic's history: It was the horrible Gipsy Kings ("Bandolero",
"Volare") played over and over again. We heard the same terrible songs
for about 5 times.

I talked to the Indonesian guy, who had been at this  TrV's since the
beginning in 1972 and he agreed with my complaints and told me the new
chief had directed these changes and in fact prohibited the playing of
Hawaiian music.

Of course the Munich Trader Vic's doesn't even have a Happy Hour.

I guess that's what happens if a place is too successful and when the
people who run it are complete ignorants. I guess I have to do something
about the text about this place in my homepage.

Mo




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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Frankie Stein and the Ghouls
Date: 10 Jul 1999 14:16:34 +0200


sixties type of beat rock with sax and organ in front plus wacky spoken
intro's and lots of zany sound effects. i LOVE it! never came accross an
original album, only have 5 tracks on a couple of comp cd's...

        Johan


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) ATC on SUSHI 4004
Date: 10 Jul 1999 21:11:23 EDT


>A new compilation called Sushi Four-Thousand-Four

didn't that come out last year??
my copy of it has a date of 1998 and I've had it for at least 6 months?


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) just a test
Date: 11 Jul 1999 01:14:52 -0400





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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) LA Fun, Sat 17
Date: 10 Jul 1999 21:10:27 EDT


sasha painted a portrait of me a few years back but you won't find it at the
show as it now resides on my Tiki room wall, but

Saturday, July 17   6-10pm
ALEXANDRA DILLON OPENING RECEPTION
Classically trained in Florence, Italy, "Sasha" paints personalities. This
show includes a series of small canvases juxtaposed to create unique
relationships between the characters.
Soapbox, 701 Venice Blvd, Venice
Exhibition continues through 8/14
(Tues-Sat 11am-5pm & by appointment)
For more info: 310-305-9145
http://academy.smc.edu/student/et12/wednesday/et12proj2_dillon/

Saturday, July 17  7pm  $25
CHINO CHALLENGE DEMO DERBY
60 insanely painted cars speeding in reverse around a mud pit smashing the
hell out of each other until only one remains.  Plus an actual wedding
ceremony to take place amidst the oil, fumes and mud.
Chino Fairgrounds, 5410 Edison Avenue (about 1 hour east of L.A.)
Info: 909-628-5282
$15 Advance tix will sell out @ M.K. Smith Chevrolet at corner of Riverside &
Central in Chino.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re:    (exotica) trader vics emeryville
Date: 10 Jul 1999 21:11:27 EDT


     I work less than a mile from the Emeryville Trader Vics and have
     lunched there a couple of times.

They are talking of starting a late happy hour from 7 - 9 pm
I am particularly interested in this because there is no way I can make it
over there from SF on a weekday for their fabulous happy hour from 5 - 7 (I
think)

would you be interested in a late happy hour there as a resident of the area?

Otto
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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Releases (Perrey, Henry)
Date: 11 Jul 1999 11:39:05 +0200


Again a few interesting items on Forced Exposure's new releases list.
http://www.forcedexposure.com


_____________________________________________
KOSINUS (FRANCE):

PERREY, JEAN-JACQUES: Good Moog: Astral Animations
& Komputer Kartoons CD (KOS 55). "Jean-Jacques Perrey
was one half of the Perrey/Kingsley duo that, most famously,
brought us In Sound from Way Out (later parodied by the
Beastie Boys, etc...) and on his own, the track 'E.V.A.' (later
re-fashioned by Fatboy Slim, covered by something known
as 'Sure is Pure', etc...) as well as recent collabs w/"French
Band Air". Strangely enough, this is a collection of music
previously only available as a 'function music' (i.e. music for
business presentations, airline commercials, Stanley Kubrick
movies, radio plays (post Orson, natch), pagan rituals, etc...) LP
series entitled Sonosyntheses Electriques (which, incidentally,
are rare). Perhaps not quite as 'punk' as the Perrey/Kingsley set,
but still highly enjoyable/cheeky through the use of all that
trademark obsolete technology (Ondes Martenot, Ondioline,
Moog, Marimba) that the youth oh so love. I'll spare you all the
anecdote about Jean Cocteau/Edith Piaf aiding in Perrey's
departure to the US." -- Hrvatski.  $16.00

_____________________________________________
PHILIPS (FRANCE):

HENRY, PIERRE: Messe Pour Le Temps Pr=E9sent CD
(PHI 456293). Fabulously desirable reissue of the most
infamous Henry piece of them all. "Messe Pour Le Temps
Pr=E9sent" was music for ballet that was originally recorded
in 1967 in association with Michel Colombier. Henry
supposedly commissioned Colombier "to recreate the sound
textures and violent atmosphere of certain American films."
Colombier's music is a variation of fun psychedelic rock from
the time, but Henry added "jerks" -- electronic effects and
rhythmic cells in response to the work that make for spectacular
listening and a fascinating combination of the high and low brow.
His electronic sounds from this piece have been heavily
sampled in recent years and the hit track on here ("Psyche
Rock") is really something to behold. Recently, a very high
profile remix project of "Messe Pour Le Temps Pr=E9sent"
has been issued by Philips (on FRRR in the US even!) in
honor of this works' legendary status, featuring tracks from
the album remixed by the likes of Coldcut, William Orbit,
Dimitri From Paris, Fatboy Slim, Tek 9, etc. In addition, this
CD also contains the following Henry electronic works: "La
Reine Verte" (excerpt) & "Le Voyage" (1962)
-- "It's a piece about how to approach death and the sounds
I use to convey this idea are inspired by zen. They are
dream-like and meditative and heighten the listener's
awareness." -- Henry. Also included: an excerpt of
"Variations Pour Une Porte Et Un Soupir" (full version
available on Harmonia Mundi HMA 1905200).  $28.00

HENRY, PIERRE: Remixe Sa Dixi=E8me Symphonie CD
(PHI 462821). "'In 1979 I composed a symphony titled:
"10th Symphony of Beethoven". On the basis of the
Beethoven-symphony durations I ended to the my way, by
a destructuration of the 9 symphonies. Not does not have a
musicologic analysis of the characteristics and constants of
the writing of Beethoven updated the trajectories, the possible
links, the connections,  the bridges of a symphony has the
other. By the assembly and the mixtures I introduced times of
resolution or of frustration, of prolongation or climate, cycles,
repetitions and counterpoints per guns, finally, an approach
similar has that of my works. The notes of Beethoven became
concrete sounds; I did them my way. Beethoven always
fascinated me because he invented melody-in-little-of-notes,
very strong melody, as strong as a thunder clap, as a tidal
wave, as a siren of fog. It has presented the dramatization of
the sounds; in A carves the thickness. Today the 10th
Symphony remix, it is the 10th Symphony with rhythms has
me, current: a faster rhythmicity, with beats, fright electronic,
flutters dephases, mobilities of filters, additions of
frequencies, doublings of reverberation. Beethoven is
amplified by depassment his orchestra, made more dramatic,
more human. Today it is also the scenario of an imaginary
film which is the frame of this "10th Symphony remix." Remix,
for me, it is to strike, with wanted dynamics, a new radical
sound speech. A new adventure meaning the current function
of the type-setter in the company.' -- Pierre Henry. A curious
addition to the Henry oeuvre, speculated by some as his
personalattempt in cashing in on all of that Modulations
screen-time through the addition of a certain 'Jackin''
(albeit a distant & foggy 'Jackin'') to the mix. Really, really
strange." -- Hrvatski.  $28.00






















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Subject: Re:  (exotica) ATC on SUSHI 4004
Date: 10 Jul 1999 21:11:23 EDT


>A new compilation called Sushi Four-Thousand-Four

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Date: 10 Jul 1999 21:11:23 EDT


>A new compilation called Sushi Four-Thousand-Four

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 11 Jul 1999 09:05:39 -0500


Hi Nicola--
   I can't vouch for any of the Phase 4 Frank Chacksfield CD rereleases you
mentioned, but I can tell you about Phase 4 and another Chacksfield LP I
think is worth picking up. Here's what the liner notes say on Chacksfield's
"Foreign Film Festival" (London SP 44112).
    Phase 4 was London Records' audiophile label from the mid-60s: glossy
gatefold jackets, star orchestras and top-flight arrangements by some of
the best in the business; think of them as a counterpart to the US Command
line. Featured Ros, Stanley Black, Chacksfield.
     In the race to perfect stereo recording and fidelity, London had a
10-channel  console mixer custom-built in 1961. It wasn't enough for the
obsessed London engineers; they wanted better sound. They got it with
stereo spectacular records unleashed on an unsuspecting world in 63 under
the Phase 4 brand name, like RCA's "Living Stereo". Phase 4s were mixed on
London's exclusive 20-channel console, which did great things to fidelity:
gleeful engineers could capture and combine 20 separate sources and
position each one as they pleased. Sound got positioned to the extreme left
or right and every point in between, and conductors gained greater
flexibility in placement of instruments in an orchestra. Alas, LPs no
longer had those cool little diagrams of instruments in the recording
studio, like the one on Cates' fabulous Polynesian Percussion record -- boo
hoo. I dig those drawings. But the Phase 4 sound is terrific.
   I really hear this on the Chacksfield Foreign Film LP, arrangements by
Roland Shaw. About half the tracks I dig because of the themes or the
instrumentation. Tasty marimba on Umbrellas of Cherbourg and A Man and a
Woman, a pretty good James Bond theme with a nice guitar bit. My favs tho
are The Good, the Bad & the Ugly and The Dark of the Sun -- way groovy
organ, a Novachord maybe? It's got a whiney sound, like the organ on the
60s hit Telstar. A good mix of moods on the record, too. Lara's Theme sucks
-- strings so sugary they could draw ants to a picnic.
    Another Phase 4 is a favorite: A Ted Heath percussion LP ( his second
percussion record, can't recall the name) with a Cherokee guaranteed to
peel your scalp off your skull. Also have a Ros LP with doesn't stand out
much. Let me know if you'd want tapes of any of these. Maybe that will help
you decide to buy or not.

Mimi
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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Needlework
Date: 11 Jul 1999 07:03:15 -0700 (PDT)


Can anyone give a quick primer on balancing a needle?  I've got four
different dials to work with and I have no idea what to do to get the
best sound and put the least amount of stress on my records.

We're looking at a height of the tonearm dial, a fine and coarse
adjustment for the tonearm counterweight, and also the anti-skating
dial.

Not to mention just general needle placement an alignment in the head
of the tonearm.

I have some docs that came with the needle, but which are very
technical.  I'm looking more for a why, record-wise and sound-wise, as
well as a how.  So I can see if I done it right.

Thanks,
Peter

PS: I was getting distortion for a while, because it was too light.
Who knew!?
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From: Risser Family <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Vinyl Killer
Date: 11 Jul 1999 11:08:08 -0400


Dusty Groove is selling them...
Has anyone seen those little vans that drive around a record and play it out the speaker in the back?
I can't imagine it'd be good for your vinyl, but it seems like it'd be awful cool.

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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) For Association Fans...
Date: 11 Jul 1999 16:13:10 +0100


Just saw this on rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s:

> As a big fan of the group, I have become friends with Terry
> Kirkman and the late Brian Cole's son, Jordon. I have also
> changed my name to Cole in honor of Brian. I perform in the New
> York/New Jersey area as Bobby Cole with my band, The Scene.
>
> Terry called me last week to let me know that he and Jim Yester
> will be performing 2 times with a complete backup band doing all
> the vocal parts.
>
> The 2 shows are July 17 and July 18. Now on the 17th, it's
> somewhere in Pennsylvania, he will let me know where. On the
> 18th, they will be playing at the Lycian Center in Sugarloaf, New
> York at 7:30 P.M.
>
> If your interested, The Scene will be playing next Friday the 16th
> in Hoboken, New Jersey at 'Love Sexy"
>
>I welcome all e-mail inquiring about any info I have left here.
>
>Thanks
>
>Bobby Cole


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 11 Jul 1999 11:19:14 EDT


Phase 4 LPs of note, in my opinion, are some of the Ronnie Aldritch twin
piano titles.  Primarily the ones with the rock and pop tunes on them.  Some
of the arrangements are duds, but some are great with marimbas, electric
bass.  I wouldn't spend the money for CDs of these, but for $3 or $4, in good
shape, they are really good sounding and enjoyable LPs.

Regarding Chacksfield, I would avoid.  To me his records are dull.

Best wishes,
Larry


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 11 Jul 1999 09:58:44 +0000


At 09:05 AM 11-07-99 -0500, Mimi wrote:
>    Another Phase 4 is a favorite: A Ted Heath percussion LP ( his second
>percussion record, can't recall the name) with a Cherokee guaranteed to
>peel your scalp off your skull.
This is Big Band Bash  London SP 44017
It is now available on CD from Collector's Choice Music, www.ccmusic.com
I believe it comes with Big Band Percussion  London  SP 44002 in a twofer CD!
Chartbusters           London SP 44074
is also pretty good, with yet another version of Mack the Knife.

>Also have a Ros LP with doesn't stand out
>much.

I've got three Edmundo Ros Phase4 albums which I enjoy:
Bongos from the South  London SP 44003
Dance Again            London SP 44015
Arriba                 London SP 44080
Are there other Ros Lps?

Chacksfield is pretty sappy stuff in general, but I've found on phase 4
there is usually something of interest on his LPs.  I just wouldn't pay
very much for his albums.  I got his TV themes album (I never turn down
a TV themes album) and found maybe two selections interesting.

I just got the secret agents phase4 LP by Roland Shaw and it is pretty good!

Some of the Ronnie Aldrich LPs are cool, some not.  Same with Stanley Black
and Werner Muller. I found the Johnny Keating LPs more consistantly
interesting to me.

My general philosophy is...if you find a phase4 LP that looks interesting
and is cheap, buy it.  It might very well have at least a couple of cuts
which are really good...or the entire album.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) fwd: Chaino
Date: 11 Jul 1999 13:07:16 -0400 (EDT)


>Return-Path: <[e-mail]>
>Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:18:21 -0400
>From: [e-mail] (Gordon Polatnick)
>Subject: Re: Chaino
>
>I've added info on Chaino, but the page
>(http://elvispelvis.com/chaino.htm) is pretty slim.
>If you get any more info or can get your hands on a photo or biography,
we'll be
>able to give Chaino a more appropriate send off.  Keep in touch if anything
comes
>your way.
>
>Gordon Polatnick
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl Killer
Date: 11 Jul 1999 22:50:42 +0200


Risser Family wrote:

> Dusty Groove is selling them...
> Has anyone seen those little vans that drive around a record and play it out the speaker in the back?
> I can't imagine it'd be good for your vinyl, but it seems like it'd be awful cool.

I had bought mine in 1984 in Tokyo, a blue VW Bus; it still works fine, but I
wouldn't wanna do it to my "collectibles".

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From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Vinyl Killer
Date: 11 Jul 1999 17:18:33 -0400


Archie McPhee in Seattle was selling little green trucks like that awhile
back for $8.
i bought 7 of them. (make great xmas presents ;) )
i like playing my worn out copy Frank Zappa's Freak Out on it until the
batteries run low.
sounds great and it gets stuck in random grooves and kinda makes for its
own "sampling" remix...pretty fun.
definitely use worn records.

bump


>> Dusty Groove is selling them...
>> Has anyone seen those little vans that drive around a record and play it
>>out the speaker in the back?
>> I can't imagine it'd be good for your vinyl, but it seems like it'd be
>>awful cool.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 11 Jul 1999 17:53:51 -0500


>Byron  mentioned a Ted Heath 2-fer of Big Band Bash from Collector's Choice=
:

Thanks for the title Byron. Might have to get that CD. First time I played
BBB2, I was floored, floored. Never realized ol' Ted had it in him! Lots of
stereo action, too. Anyone have an opinion of BBB1?

That Ros I have is Arriba. Played it once or twice waiting for lightning to
strike. Not even a spark. Don't know of other Ros Phase 4s. And I avoid
Stanley Black as a rule.

Once saw a commonplace Stanley Black record in a small town Texas antique
mall --  priced at $20!!!!!! Madness, greed, or ignorance? You decide. ;)
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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 11 Jul 1999 19:06:21 -0500


Mimi Mayer wrote:

>  And I avoid
> Stanley Black as a rule.
>

Stanley Black's "Exotic Percussion" is an ESSENTIAL lp in any respectable record
collection.The sheer bombast of the album makes it one of my all time favorites.

BTW, I recently came upon a mono version on a phase 4 recording ( sound 4 )
...what's the point? In the liner notes it makes as big a deal about the sound
as on the stereo version.

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) here history began
Date: 12 Jul 1999 02:57:50 +0200


Back home after a weeks vacation, i have just read the 300 or so posts. =
Thanks for the Harvey story Nat! It was very funny reading.

I also hoped to buy a lot of records while passing fleamarkets down here =
in Sweden, but I didnt find that many. The weirdest and probably most =
unusual record i bought was an egyptian double LP called "Here history =
began" Cool drawn cover in black red and yellow with hieroglyphs and =
circles and the records contain music made by George Delerue  and spoken =
word (in english) throughout by difererent male and female actors. (The =
cover says they are "the most celebrated actors of stage, radio, and =
television in Cairo, Paris, London and Hamburg" but they dont say who =
they are.) By the descrption on the backcover i find it is the featured =
music and words from an early multimedia event (1961) at the Giza =
plateue. "Son et Lumiere" Quite exotic, the music sounds a bit like the =
music from thrillers/horror movies from that era. at least if they are =
set in an exotic environment. picture a soundtrack to a lowbudget "the =
Mummy"... Delerue... Didnt he make the music to "Robot monster" too?
I bought it at an antigue shop, i wanted two "7 singles and this one. =
The seller looked at the eqyptian record with much interest, it gave me =
a bad feeling he wasnt willing to sell it but when i told him "Its from =
Egypt, it looks funny" and then laughed nervously, playing an innocent =
tourist, he let me have it for the same price as the singles. approx $1
One of the singles was nearly as weird. Its from 67 and has a big flower =
made out of old inner computer parts, psychedelic looking.The music is =
played by the central processor of a GE-115 Computer, (which probably =
back then was as big as a house). Side A has classical works and side B =
contains original music, or what it can be called. I love it. It was =
issued in italy by general electric and was probably given as a =
christmas gift from the company. Very early computer nusic indeed, from =
a time when computer music sounded SciFi. Ouuuuueeeeeeeeeeee U U =
uuuuuouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEE Be be ebeb

Other purchases
Frankie Stein and his ghouls -"Shock! Terror! Fear!" I am a completist =
on that guy, Allthough this after a quick listening seemed a little more =
lame than the other two I have. great nonetheless. Most expensive Lp i =
have bought  in quite some time paid aprx $25 for it nearly mint.  But =
in fact I find that cheap for records like that.

A 50s brazilian Mambo compilation LP "mambo mucho mambo" with Cugat =
Machito and Belmonte. Flute nightmare by Cugat was great exotica.

"Dick Shawn sings with his little people" 20th cen fox tfm 3124, I =
bought it mostly for Milton Deluggs arr and conducting, Dick and the =
kids are singing terribly. Nice cover too.

Bobby Christian "Vibe-brations" Ovation records (1970). Is this the same =
B Christian who made Strings for a spaceage? I have only listend to one =
track called Mooganga, and it sounds great.=20

Magnus






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Subject: SV: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 12 Jul 1999 03:04:26 +0200


 And I avoid
>Stanley Black as a rule.

Exotic percussion is not to be missed! Essential LP.

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Subject:  Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 11 Jul 1999 21:20:31 EDT



In a message dated 7/11/99 7:05:53 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>BTW, I recently came upon a mono version on a phase 4 recording ( sound 4 )
>...what's the point? In the liner notes it makes as big a deal about the
sound
>as on the stereo version.

On a related note, I bought an album last week by The Rose Garden (soft
rockers) and it said mono. The actual album is Side One-Stereo and Side
Two-Mono. Go figger..Jimmy


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) SIDESHOW A GO-GO
Date: 12 Jul 1999 01:18:58 EDT


 approved: tikievents.ssap

Each & EVERY Friday night at the famous CW Saloon
is presented a sight denied past generations for unperfected until just last
week.
SIDESHOW A GO-GO

Sideshow & circus freaks abound:
Doc Molotov & Reverend David Apocolypse will feature all the same acts that
you're sick & tired of seeing but they will do them kinda OK this time.

*Trapeeze Go-Go Girls
*Fire Acts
*Machine art installations by Jean Poulet
*cat juggling (maybe)
*3 Headed lesbian Turrets victum pinhead will be fired out of a cannon into a
brick wall for your pleasure and entertainment

other acts too numerous to mention here

For this, our opening extravaganza, we will be honored to offer our stage to
International Sidshow Sensation

Zamora the Torture King

ZT King is considered by colleagues & fans alike to be the greatest living
sideshow & Bally performer at this time

King has written the book on the subject (view it at www.circusofthestars.com)

PLUS members of 7 of San Francisco's circuses will be in attendence to kick
off this weekly event

Disc Jockey Otto will spin tantilizing tunes and keep the music pumping all
night so you may dance with chicks from San Mateo (whether they are YOUR date
or not)

Admission ($3 - $5) will be determined by the "Wheel of Admission"
show starts at 10 pm and ends at last call
CW Circus is at
917 Folsom St
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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Daring to be OT
Date: 12 Jul 1999 11:00:34 +0100


To see the best TV advertisment we Brits can drum up, go here and watch the
 surfer advert (wait for it to load).

I know its completely OT so hit that delete key if you're mad.



http://www.guinness.ie/default.asp


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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 12 Jul 1999 11:21:51 +0100


> From: [e-mail]
>
> I've got three Edmundo Ros Phase4 albums which I enjoy:
> Bongos from the South  London SP 44003
> Dance Again            London SP 44015
> Arriba                 London SP 44080
> Are there other Ros Lps?
>

I also like "New Rhythms Of The South" a lot. There are a ton of
earlier Ros LPs, generally a lot more restrained, but there are
highlights among these too ("Ros At The Opera" is truly fabulous).

There are also two Phase 4 LPs featuring Ros together with Ted Heath:
"Heath vs. Ros" and "Heath Vs. Ros Round 2". Interesting idea, but the
first volume didn't really gel together too well; haven't heard "Round
2".

> Chacksfield is pretty sappy stuff in general, but I've found on phase 4
> there is usually something of interest on his LPs.  I just wouldn't pay
> very much for his albums.  I got his TV themes album (I never turn down
> a TV themes album) and found maybe two selections interesting.
>
> I just got the secret agents phase4 LP by Roland Shaw and it is
> pretty good!
>
> Some of the Ronnie Aldrich LPs are cool, some not.

IMHO, mostly not. There's so many of them, and they are extremely
same-y. Far and away the best is "All Time Piano Hits" which features
heavy percussion with the pianorama, plus a couple of truly frenzied
pieces, "Miserlou" and "Voodoo Moon".

> Same with Stanley Black and Werner Muller.

But the good Muller albums are among the best Phase 4; look out for
"Hawaiian Swing", "On The Move" and "The Sumptuous Strings Of The
Werner Muller Orchestra". Even his lesser output usually has a couple
of good tracks (not always, though).

> I found the Johnny Keating LPs more consistantly
> interesting to me.
>
> My general philosophy is...if you find a phase4 LP that looks interesting
> and is cheap, buy it.  It might very well have at least a couple of cuts
> which are really good...or the entire album.
>

Very true.



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Subject: Re: (exotica) here history began
Date: 12 Jul 1999 06:42:11 EDT


In a message dated 7/11/99 6:04:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< "Dick Shawn sings with his little people" 20th cen fox tfm 3124, I bought
it mostly for Milton Deluggs arr and conducting, Dick and the kids are
singing terribly. Nice cover too. >>

I assume this is the Dick Shawn who was in the movie It's a Mad, Mad, Mad
World?????

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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New Releases (Perrey, Henry)
Date: 12 Jul 1999 13:24:05 +0200


Arjan Plug wrote:

> Again a few interesting items on Forced Exposure's new releases list.
>
> PERREY, JEAN-JACQUES: Good Moog:

I finally got this a couple of weeks ago. Great. Lots of funny little melodies.
Cheers you up when you're down. Makes those sunny days even sunnier!



> HENRY, PIERRE: Messe Pour Le Temps PrΘsent

I found this on LP a couple of years ago. Essential. As someone mentioned
recently, there are similarities between Perrey's 'E.V.A.' and Henry's 'PsychΘ
Rock'. There's a remix CD of a couple of Henry tracks too.

Marco

--
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+------------------------------------------+
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Subject: SV: (exotica) here history began
Date: 12 Jul 1999 14:04:08 +0200


><< "Dick Shawn sings with his little people" 20th cen fox tfm 3124, I =
bought=20
>it mostly for Milton Deluggs arr and conducting, Dick and the kids are=20
>singing terribly. Nice cover too. >>
>
>I assume this is the Dick Shawn who was in the movie It's a Mad, Mad, =
Mad=20
>World?????


Yup, its him. I bought it in Alfies jazstore in Malmoe. Alfie sounded =
depressed when talking about him "He is no longer with us". Long time =
since I saw the tiresome Its a mad mad mad world, and I dont remember =
Dick Shawn at all. What did he do besides that one?

m



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 12 Jul 1999 10:38:43 EDT


Claude Denjean has two - actually there are three moog LP's on this label.

Moog!
Open Circuit
Moods

Ray Martin's SOUND OF SIGHT is quite good.


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Subject: (exotica) [obits]Leo Frank,Ronny Graham,Angus MacDonald,Helen
Date: 12 Jul 1999 11:23:32 -0500


    CLEVELAND, July 9 (UPI) -- A Sunday funeral is planned for nationally known
former Cleveland nightclub owner Leo Frank, who was credited with helping
start the careers of such artists as Dionne Warwick, Aretha Franklin and
Stevie Wonder.
    He died Thursday from respiratory failure and pneumonia, two weeks after
being honored during a ceremony designating the former site of his nightclub
-- Leo's Casino -- as an historic rock-and-roll landmark.
    Warwick told the (Cleveland) Plain Dealer the nightclub gained national
prominence during the 1960s and early 1970s among black singers and
comedians. ``Leo was the reason a lot of us worked. When times were tough,
he made sure we all had jobs.
    ``Everyone who became anything passed through Leo's Casino.''
    Numerous artists rearranged their schedules to attend last month's
ceremony, including Jerry ``Iceman'' Butler, Chuck Jackson and Martha Reeves.
    The Plain Dealer said that between 1963 and 1972, musical acts such as
Smokey Robinson and the Miracles, Jackie Wilson, Marvin Gaye, Ray Charles,
the Supremes, the Temptations and the Four Tops all performed at Frank's
nightclub. It was at Leo's Casino that Otis Redding gave his last
performance before being killed in a plane crash in 1967.
    The club also served aso a springboard for comics such as Richard Pryor,
Flip Wilson and Redd Foxx. Dick Gregory once called Leo's Casino ``the most
fully integrated nightclub in America.''
    Frank is survived by his wife of 22 years, Sharon, a son, two daughters and
three grandsons.
                           *Ronny Graham
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Ronny Graham, who wrote episodes of ``M-A-S-H'' and
``The Mary Tyler Moore Show,'' died Sunday. He was 79.
    Graham also collaborated with Mel Brooks on such films as ``The
Inquisition,'' ``History of the World, Part I,'' ``Spaceballs'' and ``To Be
or Not to Be.''
                          *Angus MacDonald
    LONDON (AP) -- Pipe Major Angus MacDonald, considered one of the world's
best bagpipers, died June 25. He was 60.
    The place and cause of death were not given.
    MacDonald won the prestigious title Piobaire Os Cionn Chaich, or ``piper
above all others'' in 1981. Throughout his 27-year military career in the
Scots Guards, MacDonald served as household piper to Queen Elizabeth II, a
personal piper to the governor of Edinburgh Castle and a senior instructor
at the Army School of Piping.
    MacDonald was made a Member of the Order of the British Empire in 1983.
                           *Helen Forrest
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Helen Forrest, who sang with big bands from Artie Shaw
to Benny Goodman, died Sunday of heart failure. She was 82.
    Ms. Forrest was ``the most famous of all the big band singers'' and
recorded more than 500 songs, said Alan Eichler, her publicist.
    Among her best-known recordings were ``All the Things You Are,'' with Shaw;
``The Man I Love,'' with Goodman and ``I Don't Want to Walk Without You''
and ``I Had the Craziest Dream,'' with Harry James.
    She also teamed with Dick Haymes on popular recordings and a long-running
radio show.
    Ms. Forrest -- born Helen Fogel in Atlantic City, N.J. -- also appeared in
the 1940s films ``Private Buckaroo,'' ``Bathing Beauty,'' ``Springtime in
the Rockies,'' and ``Best Foot Forward.''
    In 1940, she gained some notoriety for recording with Lionel Hampton's
band. ``Back then, for a white singer to record with a black orchestra was
very unusual,'' Eichler said.
    Ms. Forrest also made some waves when she replaced Billie Holliday as the
vocalist for Shaw in 1938.
    For a while before Ms. Holliday left to start a solo career, both women
sang for the band and took their places on the bandstand. When some theater
operators required the black singer to stay off stage until performance
time, Ms. Forrest announced she would do the same.
    ``She wanted Billie to have the same rights she had,'' Eichler said.
----------------------------
   HAVANA, July 10 (AFP) - Marcelo Ricardo Chacon, believed to be the most
tattooed man in the world, died here at age 77 after a heart attack, the
newspaper Juventad Rebelde said Saturday.
   A native of Pueblo Nuevo, 100 kilometers (60 miles) east of here, the man
known as "Chacon el Taino" came to the capital wanting to become a sailor.
   His entire body was tattooed with political, cultural and social events
that he witnessed from Casa Blanca -- a small, rough and colorful
neighborhood on Havana Bay.
   Although he never professed a faith, in last years of life he cheered
those who did, wearing his many necklaces and bracelets and playing his
tumbadora (drum) near the Cathedral Plaza in Old Havana.
   Chacon willed all his savings to child-care center in his neighborhood,
the newspaper said.
   Some of his neighbors have expressed an interest in turning his small
house into a museum to preserve his necklaces and musical instruments, among
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Better living thru hi-fi (was phase 4)
Date: 12 Jul 1999 10:41:40 -0500


=46rank said >BTW, I recently came upon a mono version on a phase 4 recordin=
g
( sound 4 ) >...what's the point?

True of Phase 4 and other stereo spectaculars....then there are LPs meant
for hi-fi.

Anyone care to recommend records that sound better in mono/hi-fi?

I nominate party and dance tunes from the 60s, mixed for tinny car radios
or juke boxes. Example: A Wyncote compilation called Dance A-Go-Go with the
Stars! Features Dee Dee Sharp's South Street and Wah-Watusi, Don Covey's Do
the Bug, the Orlons' He's Braggin'. Best of all: the Dovells' Country Club
Hully Gully about a guy from the poor side of Miami converting the mink set
to a cool dance. It's the sort of music party hosts slapped on a cheap
turntable once everyone got a little high and ready to shake that thang.
Glorious mono suits the stuff.




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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) CD Jungle Comp...
Date: 12 Jul 1999 11:51:43 -0400


Anybody have a comp. (I think) put out by Del Fi called something like =
"Jungle Jive?"  It's all instros.....

Good?

- Nate




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Subject: (exotica) Reggae fans lobby for special burial
Date: 12 Jul 1999 11:48:44 -0500


    KINGSTON, Jamaica (AP) -- Friends and family of Jamaican reggae star Dennis
Brown are petitioning the government for permission to bury him in an
exclusive cemetery reserved for the Caribbean island's most notable
political leaders.
    The government is considering the petition to bury Brown at Heroes Park,
Local Government Minister Arnold Bertram said Friday.
    Earlier this week, Prime Minister P.J. Patterson said the government would
help pay for the funeral, which is scheduled for July 17.
    Brown died of pneumonia on July 1 at the age of 42. Dubbed the ``crown
prince of reggae,'' he rose to prominence during the 1970s wave of reggae
singers that included Bob Marley, who introduced the musical form to
listeners worldwide. Brown released a string of hits, beginning with ``No
Man is an Island,'' which he recorded in 1969 at the age of 12.
    The last person to be buried at Heroes Park was former Prime Minister
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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: (exotica) The Knack
Date: 12 Jul 1999 09:25:01 -0700 (PDT)


I just saw Richard Lester's The Knack last night.  I have a question: Is
the actor  Michael Crawford  in that film the same Michael Crawford of
Phantom of the Opera, etc?

Also the Barry soundtrack was cool. Are there any other Barry soundstracks
that are kind of 'jazzy?"

-----------------
Tosh Berman
TamTam Books
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Subject: SV: (exotica) CD Jungle Comp...
Date: 12 Jul 1999 18:43:34 +0200


>Anybody have a comp. (I think) put out by Del Fi called something like =
"Jungle Jive?"  It's all instros.....
>
>Good?
>
>- Nate

Nate,
you can listen to some tracks on the internet through real audio. The =
tracks from "voices of africa" seem to be the best. Anybody have that =
rare DelFi LP? 2 copies?

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Needlework
Date: 12 Jul 1999 17:05:58 +0100



Can anyone give a quick primer on balancing a needle?  I've got four
different dials to work with and I have no idea what to do to get the
best sound and put the least amount of stress on my records.

We're looking at a height of the tonearm dial, a fine and coarse
adjustment for the tonearm counterweight, and also the anti-skating
dial.

Not to mention just general needle placement an alignment in the head
of the tonearm.
Here's some badly written advice... this question comes up frequently in
alt.music.makers.dj and occasionally in rec.music.collecting.vinyl...

You need to find out the recommended tracking force for the needle first.
E.g. for mine (Stanton 500ALs) it's between 3 and 4gms. Too little or too
much and there's increased wear on the grooves (as well as distortion on
high notes if it's too little).

Not sure how other turntables work, but if the arm weight is removable and
has a rotating ring with markings (like Technics 1200s) then you need to
balance the arm so it 'floats' over the record perfectly level. Set the
ring, without moving the weight, to '0' and then you can increase the weight
by rotation to whatever the specified level is for the cartridge.

Anti-skating balances the force on the needle that pulls it inwards, towards
the centre. The markings I've seen are in grams, and should be set to the
same as the arm weight. (or 0 for scratching ;)
Anti-skating evens out the wear between both groove walls, and also should
help prevent that nasty 'lurch' towards the centre when you lower the stylus
into the run-in groove.

Position of the cartridge in the headshell lines the point of the stylus
perpendicular to the direction of the moving groove, i.e. so the curved
groove appears to be straight to the stylus (imagine the bottom point on a
circle to be a straight line where it meets the floor?)

Height ring - adjusts the arm so that the very tip of the stylus (the
diamond point) is perpendicular to the horizontal plane (i.e. the record).
Too much and it will lean forwards, too little and it will slope backwards.
You can do this by eye roughly.
Alternatively the instruction manual for the turntable should have a list of
height settings depending on the height of the cartridge. You can find out
the cartridge height, hopefully, along with the recommended arm weight.

The best sound will come from the needle being perfectly (evenly) lined up
in all these aspects. It's a case of using your eyes rather than ears for
this. The needle being evenly set up will also give the minimum level of
wear.

Needles:
come in spherical and eliptical. Eliptical supposedly have better sound, but
increased wear, especially if the records have already been played a lot
with sphericals, so you won't get the better sound possibly.

Hope this helps a little. Hopefully someone else can do a more coherent job.


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Subject: (exotica) Dick Shawn
Date: 12 Jul 1999 14:13:52 EDT


In a message dated 07/12/99 8:09:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Long time since I saw the tiresome Its a mad mad mad world, and I dont
remember Dick Shawn at all. What did he do besides that one?
  >>

He played Sylvester, the beach beat-nik that was reduced to tears when he
found out that his mother (Ethyl Merman) was in trouble.

In later years I heard he was doing a comedy skit on stage and fell down
clutching his heart.  The audience thought it was part of the act and did
nothing.  Of course after a few minutes the discovered he was dead.

Can anyone back me up on that???

tiki bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Mad, Mad, Mad World Quotes
Date: 12 Jul 1999 14:16:01 EDT


In a message dated 07/12/99 8:10:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Dick Shawn at all. What did he do besides that one? >>

I loved it when Ethel Merman tells him, "You're just like your father.  A
big, muscle headed moron."

Any other favorite quotes from Mad World???

tiki bob


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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 12 Jul 1999 10:22:33 -0400




 Exotic percussion is not to be missed! Essential LP.
Magnus PI


>>I gotta agree with Maggy on this one!  Any hardcore "exotica" collector
needs this, it's one of the best...I should note it is, I believe, one of
the ONLY Stanley Black rekkids I've ever heard, though....Jane Fondle


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Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" July 14, 1999
Date: 12 Jul 1999 16:27:05 -0400


"Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Mr Scruff - Is He Ready... "Keep it Unreal"
James Last - Voodoo Ladys Love "Voodoo-Party" [thanks Cheryl & Brian!]
The Electric Indian - Keem-O-Sabe 7"

Chaino & His African Percussion Safari - Cum-Ba-See "Jungle Echoes"
Red Rogers - Congo Bounce "Jungle Exotica Vol 2"
Tarantula Ghoul & the Gravediggers - King Kong "Jungle Exotica"

Screamin' Jay Hawkins - Frenzy "Voodoo Jive"
Mr Scruff - Get a Move On! [radio edit] "Get a Move On!"
Tonio Rubio - Bass in Action #7 "Beyond the Valley of the Superbeats"
Riccardo & His Group - Last Tango in Paris "Dimensions in Sound"

Mr Scruff - Blackpool Roll "Keep it Unreal"
Shocking Blue - Acka Raga "The Haschisch Party"
James Last - Mr Giant-Man "Voodoo-Party"

The Brass Ring - The Now Sound "The Now Sound of the Brass Ring"
Enoch Light & the Brass Menagerie - Soulful Strut "Enoch Light & the Brass
Menagerie"

Thanks for reading,

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Subject: (exotica) ? Exotica Album Reviews Book ?
Date: 12 Jul 1999 16:38:29 EDT


Hello,

I remember reading about an Exotica Album Reviews book awhile back on this
list and am wondering if this ever came out?  Supposedly it was to feature
many album covers, etc. Anyone?  Anyone?
On another note... my CD making capabilities have firmly gotten on the good
foot.  COMPLETED TITLES INCLUDE:

HUGO MONTENEGRO - Best Of (2 discs touching upon all essential Hugo...)

WEIRDO BEATLES - (2 Discs) A set of the strangest Beatle interpretations I
could find, including tunes by WIlliam Shatner, Laibach, Hugo Montenegro,
Yellow Magic Orchestra, Arthur Fiedler(!) Enoch Light, Phil Collins, Mystic
Moods Orchestra, Santo & Johnny, Karl Swobodian and many more
favorites.(Features nothing from the recent George Martin release, but I can
imagine a future volume will... Jim Carey and Goldie Hawn singing Beatles
tunes?)

FREEKY DEEKY - (1 Disc) "Very Bad Music" Volume 1 - Features tunes from Mr. T
(!), WIlliam Shatner, Telly Savalas, Anthony Newley, MECO, L Ron Hubbard and
more!

ROBO ELECTRIC CHEESE - (1 Disc) Great moog inspired stomping robot disco
featuring Girorgio Moroder, Kraftwerk, Space, Hot Butter, Munich Orchestra
and more.

NOIR Volume 1 - (1 Disc) Features a nice introduction into the music of cloak
& dagger, dames, private dicks, spies and noir.  Includes John Barry, Henry
Mancini, Warren Barker, Al Caiola, Clebanoff, Barry Adamson, Toldeo, Alvino
Rey, Angelo Badalamenti and many more.

Website is coming soon... In the Works Titles include:
L. RON HUBBARD - "Space Jazz" b/w YARS REVENGE ATARI 2600 LP.
The L Ron Scientology LP has got to be the weirdest record I own... it's just
sick... it's being paired with a Sci-Fi kids record that tied in with the
Yars Revenge Atari Video game back in 1982.  Ironically enough, it makes more
sense than the L. Ron LP.

WARREN BARKER - The Exotic Rhythms Of Warren Barker b/w Warren Barker Is
"IN".  Great spy flavored mood music.  Why these have not been released yet,
I do not know.  Includes the "are you "IN" or "OUT" quiz!

MUSIC TO READ JAMES BOND BY Volumes 1 & 2 + The World Of James Bond.

Cioa'


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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Knack
Date: 12 Jul 1999 18:53:28 -0500


Tosh wrote:

> I just saw Richard Lester's The Knack last night.  I have a question: Is
> the actor  Michael Crawford  in that film the same Michael Crawford of
> Phantom of the Opera, etc?
>

Yes, that is indeed the same Michael Crawford. What a nutty sixties semi-arty
film! And yes, it is where the band The Knack got their name.

>
> Also the Barry soundtrack was cool. Are there any other Barry soundstracks
> that are kind of 'jazzy?"

I'd go so far as to say that this is my favorite Barry soundtrack. No others
of his that I've heard are consistently this good.(I say this at the risk of
committing a Bond sacrilege, but you'd have to admit the Bond soundtracks
simply are not as "jazzy" as the Knack.) Although, he does that typical
soundtrack-arrangers crutch in that there are really only about two or three
themes, and all the subsequent tracks (cues) are variations on these themes.

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 12 Jul 1999 16:17:45 -0700 (PDT)


John Keating's Moog lp is also worth a listen - An
Astromusical Odyssey: Sounds Galactic P4 SP 44154

--- [e-mail] wrote:

> Claude Denjean has two - actually there are three
> moog LP's on this label.
>
> Moog!
> Open Circuit
> Moods

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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: (exotica) The Knack
Date: 12 Jul 1999 16:27:43 -0700 (PDT)


Wow!  I would never guess that the young chap in The Knack would grow up to
be a sex symbol for the Beverly Hills/Palm Springs set!  I wonder if any
Michael Crawford fan has seen this film.  They should release it with a new
marketing angle.

It is an interesting film.  Some of it is trying too hard to be French New
wavish with a little Tati thrown in (plus Buster Keaton), but there are
some great visuals.  Especially the credit sequence which is excellent.
And as recliner has mentioned - the Barry score is fab.

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Subject: SV: (exotica) Phase 4-- are they worth it??
Date: 13 Jul 1999 01:33:45 +0200


>John Keating's Moog lp is also worth a listen - An
>Astromusical Odyssey: Sounds Galactic P4 SP 44154
>

Yeah thats a cool one! Lots of weird space zounds.

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Subject: SV: (exotica) Mad, Mad, Mad World Quotes
Date: 13 Jul 1999 01:54:21 +0200



><< Dick Shawn at all. What did he do besides that one? >>
>
>I loved it when Ethel Merman tells him, "You're just like your father.  =
A=20
>big, muscle headed moron."
>
>Any other favorite quotes from Mad World???


Hey tiki bob, where's yor taste taking yo!.... Thats not a cool quote. =
At least not in my world. That movie sucks.
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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dick Shawn
Date: 12 Jul 1999 20:16:42 -0400


No one's going to note his immortal turn as Lorenzo Saint DuBois ("L.S.D.") in "The Producers"?!?

Go here for a full filmography listing:
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Shawn,+Dick

::::::::::::::::::

A choice TV item:
"It's All True" (1993)
AMC - Wednesday night, 10:00pm, 4:35am

This is the sorta recent reconstruction or documentary of Orson Welles' lost film, shot in South America while the studio was working over "The Magnificent Ambersons".

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Subject: SV: (exotica) Dick Shawn
Date: 13 Jul 1999 02:13:28 +0200



I blame my swedish heritage and the swedish society and the bosnian =
conflict. And the atom bombs in the south seas.

>No one's going to note his immortal turn as Lorenzo Saint DuBois =
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From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) CD Jungle Comp...
Date: 12 Jul 1999 17:59:10 -0700


Actually it's a combination of vocals and instrumentals.  Some pretty =
cool tunes mixed with somewhat boring tunes, like most of the Del Fi =
comps. =20

Jerry

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Anybody have a comp. (I think) put out by Del Fi called something like =
"Jungle Jive?"  It's all instros.....



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From: James G <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dick Shawn
Date: 12 Jul 1999 18:41:06 -0700


Magnus PI wrote:
<and I dont remember =
Dick Shawn at all. What did he do besides that one?>

Dick Shawn sang the stunning eco-rant "Love Power" as the "world's worst
actor" Lorenzo St. Dubois (LSD) in Mel Brook's demented musical
extravaganza "The Producers" - the one with "Springtime for Hitler."
Not to be missed, and it should be watched at least once a year, it gets
funnier each time. The drag queen Roger DeBris was played by Christopher
Hewitt, who later seemed to have gained 100 lbs and starred in an awful
sitcom "Mr. Belvedere."

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fascinato's Surplus Store
Date: 12 Jul 1999 21:58:53 -0500


Jack Fascinato - Music from a Surplus Store

Yea! I've always wanted this album after first seeing it in the
Incredibly Strange Music book and now I own a pristine copy.
It is however, a little bit of a letdown. I suppose I was expecting a
little more "experimental" use of these surplus store items. The album
is pretty much easy  jazz with one or two common items basically used as
percussion instruments. I mean how many times do you wanna listen to a
sandpaper-scrubbrush  effect that really doesn't sound too far removed
from a recognized percussion instrument? Okay I'm being hard on this lp,
it is after all a pretty darn cool album. It's funny how after getting
an album that you've craved for many years without ever having heard
that it  can let you down when you finally hear it, simply because
you've built up this expectation of how great it  *could* be.

Along these lines (sort of) but more contemporary - Has any one heard
that "Chainsaw Orchestra "  (or some such name) album that came out two
or three years ago? I'm curious.

Frank



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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Not just another budget Hawaiian album
Date: 12 Jul 1999 22:37:13 -0500


"Aloha Hawaii" by Harry Kaapuni and his Royal Polynesians on Coronet
Records.
The cover features a very un-Hawaiian babe, blonde hair blue eyes,
standing in some "jungle " foliage with Aloha Hawaii in big
yellow-orange letters to the right.  So now you know what to look for ,
chances are that in your grimy thrift store scavenging that you've come
across this and passed up on it as merely another cheesy budget Hawaiian
album. I think I have before myself, luckily a friend of mine, Jon,
pointed out two tracks on this album that are not merely outstanding,
but perhaps the most fucked up  "Hawaiian" songs ever! (Okay Frank, easy
with those superlatives.)
Two songs on this album " Hawaiian Holiday" and " Hawaiian Starlight"
are the obvious original  material filler tracks on this otherwise
fairly pedestrian Hawaiian album.
These two songs represent a genre unto themselves which I can only
describe as Hawaii-abilly! Yes, Rockabilly meets Hawaiian!! What a
concept I think that the more daring of these new rockabilly bands
should actively pursue this idea.

"Hawaiian Starlight", the more straightforward of the two is the perfect
melding of a rockabilly guitar sound to an uptempo Hawaiian melody,
think Hawaiian War Bop, and you'll have a good idea. The other tune
"Hawaiian Starlight" defies description, I still have to ask a drummer
friend of mine tell me if they are actually playing in  time or just
screwing up the rhythm on purpose. On top of that  "rhythm" you have the
rockabilly sounding guitar as in the other tune but on top of that is a
vocalist  who makes mockery of the Hawaiian language in the most mind
boggling way! Again the rockabilly style comes to mind, but imagine this
style of singing, glottal stops and all, but with some totally
incomprehensible words spewing out!  I am still shaking my head in
blissful wonderment....whew.

Frank



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From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Incredible Free Sound Clip Collection
Date: 12 Jul 1999 20:29:34 -0700


I accidentally came across an amazing collection of downloadable =
soundclips at :

http://soundamerica.com/

Great free collection of movie dialog bits, TV theme songs, etc.  The =
prize for me was the theme song to Reel Wild Cinema, a cancelled show =
that I pine for more every week. =20

Enjoy!

Jerry



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Not just another budget Hawaiian album
Date: 12 Jul 1999 23:38:49 EDT


Your description fascinates me.  I will keep a lookout for that one.

But, don't forget one of the greatest Hawaiian tunes ever (even though it is
a parody) SPIKE JONES' AMAZING STUPENDOUS VERSION OF THE HAWAIIAN WAR CHANT.
Unquestionably one of the funniest records ever made.

Heard it?

Larry


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Subject: RE: (exotica) Dick Shawn
Date: 12 Jul 1999 20:45:01 -0700


Didn't Dick Shawn die (literally) on stage, in the middle of a performance?  I think that it happened here in San Diego.

Jerry

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Magnus PI wrote:
<and I dont remember =
Dick Shawn at all. What did he do besides that one?>

Dick Shawn sang the stunning eco-rant "Love Power" as the "world's worst
actor" Lorenzo St. Dubois (LSD) in Mel Brook's demented musical
extravaganza "The Producers" - the one with "Springtime for Hitler."
Not to be missed, and it should be watched at least once a year, it gets
funnier each time. The drag queen Roger DeBris was played by Christopher
Hewitt, who later seemed to have gained 100 lbs and starred in an awful
sitcom "Mr. Belvedere."

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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Knack
Date: 12 Jul 1999 13:21:04 -0400







I just saw Richard Lester's The Knack last night.  I have a question: Is
the actor  Michael Crawford  in that film the same Michael Crawford of
Phantom of the Opera, etc?

Also the Barry soundtrack was cool. Are there any other Barry soundstracks
that are kind of 'jazzy?"

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) CHAINO, SAD NEWS
Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:13:58 +0200


>I just spoke with Kirby Allen who told me that Chaino passed away =
yesterday,=20
>July 8, at the age of 71 of a heart attack, the result of surgery to =
remove a=20
>brain tumor.

Sad news indeed, so the liner notes on the reissue cd was fake too. I =
like that.=20
What did he do whole his life besides the records in the 50s? Did he =
record anything else? Why did he die at all? :(
Chainos Africana LP is one of the best exotica LPs I have.


>Chaino and Kirby appear in two films, "The Devil's Hand", and =
"Nighttide."

Didnt know that, I have seen Nighttide, its a good movie, I remember a =
frantic bongo player on the beach, am I correct? Or is that scene in =
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Not necessarily relative, but a fun story
Date: 13 Jul 1999 05:55:14 -0400


I just got back from Memphis (ALL the way from Memphis, to save on the Mott
the Hoople cracks!).  Thanks to all for the tips about the city.  While not
a complete rundown of everything I did and saw there (sighs of relief all
around), this was the most memorable AND it happened on our wedding
anniversary.*

The story is on
http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar/moon.html

Hi, Stax.  The Sun was out earlier, but I Flip-ped when I saw a Meteor by
the light of the Moon, before I turned XL,
Brian Phillips

*July 9.  Eleven years.  Thank you.  Yes, they have all been wonderful and
I would say that even without my wife having access to my e-mail.

P.S. I am in the process of overhauling my site, but this is the only new
material.
Brian Phillips
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Holiday purchases
Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:07:22 +0100


I've been on holiday for a week,  didn't have that much free time,  but
I still managed to get into a few record shops,  after a couple of
months abstinence,  no real bargains,  but some good ones all the same.

Ennio Morricone -- Le Foto Proibite Di Una Signora Per Bene on DagoRed.
A new one,  A beautiful pressing on really nice heavy vinyl.  It
restores your faith in vinyl,  sorry to come over all trainspotter,  but
it really is a joy to hold this record.  And even better its a good
record, ranging from excellent Italian pop and go-go music to atonal
space orchestration something like Art Mineo's 'Man in Space with
Sounds' meets 'Get Carter'.

Gershon Kingsley -- music to Moog by.  Another new one,  another nice
pressing.  I think we've heard all about the contents.  Well worth
having.

Onto the second handers:

Andre Penazzi -- orgao, samba, percussao vol 3.  A tip from Christian
Courtis,  to follow up on my Ed Lincoln enquiries.  Injected for Super
Sound,  it looks like it should be a Super Stereo Action type record,
especially with all the technical info on the back,  but no,  its in
mono (by the way,  I also saw a phase 4 mono record last week).  I
should say its from about 1960,  its hard to tell,  groovy stuff,  not
too heavy on the percussion, and not the same thick kitchen sink style
organ as Ed Lincoln,  but a very nice record.

Michel Legrand -- The Umbrellas of Cherbourg.  Phillips Connoisseur
Collection.  Mono.  I was very disappointed with this.  One Nice
swinging/crime jazz number,  and the main theme.  I didn't enjoy the
rest at all.  I've offered it to Arjan,  but if anyone else wants it
they can have it.

Lee Hazlewood -- Houston.  Not much to say. Lee,  country style,  not
too gravely.  Houston and his own spine chilling Fridays Child. Another
good one.

Harry Stoneham -- Hammond My Way.  More organs - lovely.  My Way taken
at breakneck speed in a super cheesy style.  This has some real high
spots for me.  On Contour rather than Studio 2.

Didn't get into any charity shops,  maybe at the weekend.

El Maestro Con Queso

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Mad, Mad, Mad World Quotes
Date: 13 Jul 1999 07:27:57 EDT


In a message dated 7/12/99 4:58:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Hey tiki bob, where's yor taste taking yo!.... Thats not a cool quote. At
least not in my world. That movie sucks.
 tiny muscle M >>

Really?  This is considered a classic here by many.  You have to remember
that Stanley Kraemer assembled about 100 well know actors/actresses for this
movie.  The final version runs about 3 hours but the original version Kraemer
wanted to show was about 5 hours.  A buddy of mine and I would kill to see
those extra two hours.

It was a return to slap schtick comedy that have been absent in the US for
about 25 years.  At the time, this movie was well received because of this.
And all the actors as mentioned above.

Sorry if we disagree on this one -- I really do think it is a funny, not to
mention artful, movie.

And Ethel Merman's loud mouth is just so typical of the obnoxious
mother-in-law that so many American males despise (this MUST be universal).
When she hits the banana peel at the end and makes the room full of men, all
with tremendous pain and consequences from breaking the law, break up
laughing it is just classic.

At one point someone calls Ethel Merman an "old bag" and Dick Shawn say,
"Hey!  That's my mama you're talking about."  It just strikes many as being
funny.  And it is the way he says it.

Oh well.  Maybe it is a culture (or my case a lack of culture) thing.

Tiki Bob


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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sale List Available
Date: 13 Jul 1999 07:02:17


I have a list of several hundred albums I'm weeding out of my stacks.  If
you're interested in getting a copy of the sale list, please drop me an email.

Brad Bigelow
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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: [Tosh: (exotica) The Knack]
Date: 13 Jul 1999 14:39:07 +0100


>
> Wow!  I would never guess that the young chap in The Knack would grow up to
> be a sex symbol for the Beverly Hills/Palm Springs set!  I wonder if any
> Michael Crawford fan has seen this film.  They should release it with a new
> marketing angle.
>

Michael Crawford crops up in a few other 60s British films. IIRC, one
is called something like "The Jokers", the brothers being Crawford and
Oliver Reed, who steal the crown jewels as a stunt. And that one is a
Michael Winner film! (Scary, no? But it's pretty good.)

Crawford is probably (still) best known in Britain for his role as
Frank Spencer in the once hugely popular sit-com "Some Mothers Do 'Ave
'Em", in which he played a gormless idiot who was a walking disaster
area that drove people nuts (lots of demolition, stunts, slapstick
humour, etc.). So he has a completely different image over here, I
guess. They've just started repeating 'em.

But more on-topically, there's another Crawford-Barry link. Crawford
was in the stage show "Billy", a musical adaptation of "Billy Liar",
the music for which was written by one Mr. John Barry. And, yes, there
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Enjoyed your web page
Date: 13 Jul 1999 10:12:39 EDT


Thought the List might like this

In a message dated 07/13/99 8:06:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, USAKOWLOON
writes:

<< Subj:    Re: Enjoyed your web page
 Date:    07/13/99 8:06:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time
 From:    USAKOWLOON
 To:    Rcbrooksod

 Tiki Bob


 Thank-you for the kind words and for informing your friends of our Web Page.
 I was happy to hear that you enjoyed looking at our website and hope that
you and your friends will have a chance to visit us at the Kowloon.



 Sincerely,


 The Wong Family >>


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Knack
Date: 13 Jul 1999 10:20:22 EDT


<< Also the Barry soundtrack was cool. Are there any other Barry soundstracks
 that are kind of 'jazzy?" >>

there are a couple of John Barry scores that continue to elude me, "Four In
The Morning" (Roulette 1966) and the very rare "The Wrong Box" (Mainstream
1966).

anybody have or heard them?

Get The Knack, Tosh!  It is on CD.




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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) CHAINO, SAD NEWS
Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:00:30 -0400






From Lee:
>I just spoke with Kirby Allen who told me that Chaino passed away
yesterday,
>July 8, at the age of 71 of a heart attack, the result of surgery to
remove a
>brain tumor.
From Magy:
Sad news indeed, so the liner notes on the reissue cd was fake too. I like
that.
What did he do whole his life besides the records in the 50s? Did he record
anything else? Why did he die at all? :(
Chainos Africana LP is one of the best exotica LPs I have.


 This is actually prompting me to ask a question I always forget...and that
is, did Chaino do albums under alternate spellings of his name?  I have a
rekkid, the title I believe is something like AFRICAN PERCUSSION with a
Command-like cover, tho it's not on Command...and the star percussionist is
named something like Kaino.  I have been told before he recorded under
different names.  Also, the "real" Chaino is also on the oh-too-fab EXOTIC
PERCUSSION AND BRILLIANT BRASS, one of my top Exotica rekkids of all time.
Wonder if that's Chaino screaming like a gorilla?
Screaming like a bonobo,
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Fascinato's Surplus Store
Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:02:00 EDT


In a message dated 07/12/99 9:58:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Jack Fascinato - Music from a Surplus Store

 Yea! I've always wanted this album after first seeing it in the
 Incredibly Strange Music book and now I own a pristine copy.
 It is however, a little bit of a letdown. >>

Yeah, especially a letdown after hearing Elliot's Zounds! What Sounds!

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Singing Dogs?
Date: 13 Jul 1999 16:09:50 +0100


Anyone have any recordings by "The Singing Dogs"? I've just seen a 78
of them performing "Oh Susanna" and I was tempted, but it was a touch
on the pricey side (randomising charity shop madpersons again) so I'd
like to know what I'd be shelling out for with this one. I'm assuming
these are actually, well, singing dogs, but does anyone know for sure?



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Incredible Free Sound Clip Collection
Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:09:13 EDT


In a message dated 07/12/99 11:27:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I accidentally came across an amazing collection of downloadable
soundclips at :

 http://soundamerica.com/

 Great free collection of movie dialog bits, TV theme songs, etc.  The prize
for me was the theme song to Reel Wild Cinema, a cancelled show that I pine
for more every week.

 Enjoy!

 Jerry
  >>

There are about 120 clips from the movie Caddyshack.  I think if you string
them together it is the entire movie!

What a Cinderella site.  Thanks Jer.

tiki bob
(on the 14th green at Augusta)


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Subject: RE: SV: (exotica) Mad, Mad, Mad World Quotes
Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:26:14 -0400



 This is considered a classic here by many.

"We are the ones in the convertible Imperial and we're not in front?"

Check out Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation at
http://www.brimstones.com

surfing the chaos,
Charlieman
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Subject: (exotica) Incredible free sound clips
Date: 13 Jul 1999 11:40:33 -0400


WOW!!

The firt collection of sounds from The Atomic Cafe I ever saw online!!!

What are you supposed to do when you see the flash??

Duck and Cover!!

How much more Space Age can you get?!?!?

Check out Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation at
http://www.brimstones.com

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From: Hans Adell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Knack, Wednesday's Child
Date: 13 Jul 1999 17:49:59 +0200


At 10:20 AM 7/13/99 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
><< Also the Barry soundtrack was cool. Are there any other Barry soundstracks
> that are kind of 'jazzy?" >>
>
>there are a couple of John Barry scores that continue to elude me, "Four In
>The Morning" (Roulette 1966) and the very rare "The Wrong Box" (Mainstream
>1966).

What about the Wednesday's Child Soundtrack? I think the Title track is
fantastic, but is the rest of the soundtrack any good? Should I buy it?
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From: Hans Adell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Record stores in Costa Del Sol and in Italy?
Date: 13 Jul 1999 18:03:43 +0200


Anyone know of good record stores in Malaga, Costa Del Sol in Spain, and in
Florence and Pisa in Italy?

Tack in advance!
/Hassan



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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Some other Incredible free sound clips
Date: 13 Jul 1999 12:11:30 -0400


The page, it is an ugly thing, but oh, the sounds at
http://www.earthstation1.com/ . Dig Mad Daddy Radio under Audio Weirdness.



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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Not just another budget Hawaiian album
Date: 13 Jul 1999 12:15:26 -0400


Frank raved about:

>two tracks on this album that are not merely outstanding,
>but perhaps the most fucked up  "Hawaiian" songs ever!

I know exactly the tracks you are talking about! Totally wigged!

But as long-lost listee Tony Wilds first pointed out, that session has
gotten spread around on about 20 different budget hawaiian albums, under
numerous alleged band names and album titles.

I have the same tracks as by "Jonnie Aluani" on Pirouette and "Lani Scott"
on Acorn--where paradoxially, the cover photo shows shows a couple of
afro-carribean babes.

I've always suspected that the "hawaiian" vocal on that one track is just
some Nashville session man liquored out of his noggin.

Still, every collection needs a copy. . .


 --Ross

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Charles English,J. Howard Rogers,Rajendra Kumar
Date: 13 Jul 1999 12:43:25 -0500


 *Charles R. English
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Charles R. English, one of Hollywood's
attorneys-to-the-stars whose clients included Jack Nicholson, Alec Baldwin,
James Woods and rocker Tommy Lee, died Saturday due to complications from a
brain tumor. He was 61.
    English was a firm advocate of due process guarantees. As chairman of the
American Bar Association's national standards committee, he was critical of
new court efficiencies that he felt infringed on defendant rights.
    In 1998, he was named Outstanding Defense Attorney by the Los Angeles
County Bar Association.
                          *J. Howard Rogers
    PARIS, Texas (AP) -- J. Howard Rogers, a longtime gospel singer who was a
member of the Texas Music Hall of Fame, died Sunday. He was 80.
    Rogers' gospel career stretched back 74 years and included numerous awards.
He was a charter member of the Southern Gospel Music Association and was a
dean of the SGMA School of Music for 14 years.
Remembering Rajendra Kumar

The man they called Jubilee Kumar in the 'sixties for the large number of
hits he notched up at the Bollywood box office died on Monday morning.

Please read "There was no trace of arrogance in him" by Lata Khubchandani at

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From: "Mayhue, Wade" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Not just another budget Hawaiian album
Date: 13 Jul 1999 09:45:34 -0700


Frank wrote:

<<"Aloha Hawaii" by Harry Kaapuni and his Royal Polynesians on Coronet
Records.
The cover features a very un-Hawaiian babe, blonde hair blue eyes,
standing in some "jungle " foliage with Aloha Hawaii in big
yellow-orange letters to the right.
...two songs represent a genre unto themselves which I can only
describe as Hawaii-abilly! Yes, Rockabilly meets Hawaiian!! What a
concept I think that the more daring of these new rockabilly bands
should actively pursue this idea.>>


I too am in possession of this fine specimen of Hawaiian-abilly.  The first
time I put this LP on my turntable, I instantly knew it was a classic.  This
was obviously recorded by a small group of country music studio players from
Modesto trying to cash in on Polynesian fever.  Strange and titalating
(especially the cover!).

Find it.  Buy it.  Love it.

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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Texas Chainsaw Orchestra
Date: 13 Jul 1999 19:13:29 +0200


Frank:

>Along these lines (sort of) but more contemporary - Has any one
>heard that "Chainsaw Orchestra "  (or some such name) album
>that came out two or three years ago? I'm curious.

A hoot, should be still available on Rhino I think.
Tracklist:  Sabre Dance, American Woman, You Oughta Know, Chain Gang, I Will
Always Love You and Birthday.

That Spanish monks parody record on the same label  by The Benzendrine Monks
of Santa Domenica (with gregorian style covers of Do You Think I'm Sexy,
Losing
My Religion or Smells Like Teen Spirit) is also recommended.

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: SV: (exotica) Mad, Mad, Mad World Quotes
Date: 13 Jul 1999 19:09:52 +0200


Sorry for my earlier post. It wasnt my intention to hurt anyones =
feelings. It was just that Bad Me. Will give the movie another chance. =
Maybe this time I will even like it.

once again...
sooooooooooorry
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) The Singing Dogs?
Date: 13 Jul 1999 13:34:56 EDT



In a message dated 7/13/99 11:10:51 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Anyone have any recordings by "The Singing Dogs"?

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Subject: (exotica) LURKER CHALLENGE!
Date: 13 Jul 1999 13:11:49 -0400


Heavy sigh...
Sometimes I feel there are about 25 of us who post regularly on the list.
Don't worry, this isn't my olde "lurkers questionaire" of three years back!
However, hearing from Wade (who are ya', Wade?) made me realize that only
certain strange topics bring out the lurkers..and strange records, is
certainly one of them.
So, just a quick question to all you lurkers who don't have time to post,
or have more of a life than some of us do!;0...Tell us about your
"strangest" or most rare-album, and please make it exotica-appropriate!
Don't worry, we won't bite, unless, of course, you want us to...So, ready,
steady, GO!
Jane Fondle-voyeur...

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Subject: (exotica) LURKER CHALLENGE!
Date: 13 Jul 1999 13:11:49 -0400


Heavy sigh...
Sometimes I feel there are about 25 of us who post regularly on the list.
Don't worry, this isn't my olde "lurkers questionaire" of three years back!
However, hearing from Wade (who are ya', Wade?) made me realize that only
certain strange topics bring out the lurkers..and strange records, is
certainly one of them.
So, just a quick question to all you lurkers who don't have time to post,
or have more of a life than some of us do!;0...Tell us about your
"strangest" or most rare-album, and please make it exotica-appropriate!
Don't worry, we won't bite, unless, of course, you want us to...So, ready,
steady, GO!
Jane Fondle-voyeur...

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From: "Kevin Kovelant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) LURKER CHALLENGE!
Date: 13 Jul 1999 13:54:10 -0400



ack!  I admit it!  I lurk! put down the flashlight!  heehee

hmmm.  Picking just ONE, is difficult, but some of my favorites include (and
forgive me, my vinyl collection is 700 miles away right now)

"OOPS! There Comes A Smile" - Jim and Tammy Bakker.  Yep, the original
terrifying PTL Club children's album.  Imagine my glee when I recently heard
Tammy Faye singing "Jesus takes a frown, and turns it upside down..." on
Talk Soup a few months back.  My ex didn't believe I had a full recording of
it.  Now she knows better.  :)

"The Coming War With Russia According To The Bible" - Dr. Jack Van Impe.
I'm still waiting for this war.  This album came out in 1950something.
Still in the original shrink wrap!

**I promise, its not all religious recordings, though I have a certain
fondness for some of the more outlandish ones***

"Bagels and Bongos" - Irving Fields.  Traditional Jewish melodies, with a
latin beat! Who can resist "Havana Negila"?

"Saturday Night Fiedler" - Arthur Fiedler.  "Disco music is the music of the
FUTURE!" proclaim the liner notes.

and finally, one I cannot recall the title of.  I just remember the bit from
the liner notes:  "What will the music of the future sound like in 1976????"
A lot of playing about with the stereo channels, and "full guitar
orchestras!".  Fun stuff.

While I'm in a posting frenzy, here..... I believe I owe someone on this
list a copy of the Vangelis Blade Runner score.  E-mail me so I can get it
to you!!!

-Kev.








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From: Hans Adell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Blond Barry Babe
Date: 13 Jul 1999 20:36:26 +0200


Another Barry question: What is the sexy blond girl from Manitas De Plata's
"Hommages" LP cover, doing on John Barry's "Themeology" CD cover?

/Hans



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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) LURKER CHALLENGE!
Date: 12 Jul 1999 12:20:52 -0700



> forgive me, my vinyl collection is 700 miles away right now)
>=20
How can you STAND IT?

> "OOPS! There Comes A Smile" - Jim and Tammy Bakker.  Yep, the original
> terrifying PTL Club children's album. =20

Two words: E-VIL!  One of my faves too!  There are TWO albums like this =
from J&TB with scary songs on one side and and a morality play with =
puppets (???) on the other. (Makes me think of all those ventriliquism =
records... how amazing is THAT?  Is Jimmy Nelson REALLY not moving his =
mouth when "Farfel" speaks?)
>=20
> "Bagels and Bongos" - Irving Fields.  Traditional Jewish melodies, =
with a
> latin beat! Who can resist "Havana Negila"?

So YOU'RE the BASTID that beat to this one on Ebay!  You, sir are my =
SWORN ENEMY! BEWARE! ;^)>=20




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Subject: Re: (exotica) LURKER CHALLENGE!
Date: 13 Jul 1999 15:52:48 -0400





Ron G. said:

>> forgive me, my vinyl collection is 700 miles away right now)
>>


>How can you STAND IT?

It's not easy.  :)  but seeing as I may be moving again soon, I'll be
picking them up on my way to my new destination.


>So YOU'RE the BASTID that beat to this one on Ebay!  You, sir are >my SWORN
ENEMY! BEWARE! ;^)>

Actually, it wasn't me! I got mine at a flea market years ago.  I promise!
:)

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: RE: (exotica) Not just another budget Hawaiian album
Date: 13 Jul 1999 15:19:34 -0500


Oh goodie! Alohabilly! Here are some other LPs/aliases  of the mystery
Country & Pacifica guitarist. Like Ross, I knew exactly who Frank was
talking about and like Wade I say Find it. Buy it. Love it. No matter who
the jacket says recorded these stripped down steel and uke/guitar tracks.
No percussion though.

Leni Okehu & His Surfboarders      Hawaiian Holiday    Grand Prix
   Good for Hawaiian People Eater, Hawaiian Rock (the fake lyrics tune) and
Hawaiian War Chant

Luke Leilani & His Hawaiians       Heavenly Hawaii     Spin-O-Rama
   Heavyed with Alohabilly cuts, including Hawaiian Blues, Lovely Guitar,
Hawaiian Bounce, Swinging Palm Trees, and Guitar Chant

Luke Leilani & His Hawaiian Delights  Hawaiian Delights  Spin-O-Rama
   Same tunes as Heavenly Hawaii except for a cover of the theme for the
movie Hawaii.

Johnny Lei Orchestra    Red Sails in the Sunset        Diplomat
   The fake lyrics song called Hawaiian Rock elsewhere is titled Holiday in
Hawaii here. Seems Diplomat just tossed together a hodgepodge of copyright
free music. Grass Skirt Swing  and Hawaiian War chant would get people
2-steppin' at a Texas dance hall. Dancing Surf sounds like Le Jazz Hot.

Some other rockabilly flavored cuts by other musicians:
The Oahu Serenaders       Hawaiian Holiday      Golden Tone
Johnny Poi & His Surfboarders  (best name!) Hawaii Calling   Grand Prix
Hawaiian Islanders     Hello Hawaii    Golden Tone/Evon

I'll buy anything that's vaguely Hawaiian, but these are not to be missed.
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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) strange music revealed!
Date: 13 Jul 1999 16:41:42 -0400


Announcing the release of an unofficial recording!

"Americana Volume I: Vox Populi," which is a source CD for the Citizen
Kafka radio show, is now available on an extremely limited basis. 25
exquisitely rare tracks. Plus, it comes with a 32 page pamphlet with
liner notes, essay, and some images. Here are the liner notes, for those
of you with morbid curiosities:

http://www.megasaver.com/voxpopliner.html

and here is a brief mention of this material from a Sunday New York
Times article about WFMU and, in passing, Citizen Kafka:

http://www.megasaver.com/timesart.html

see the last paragraph for the vox populi "rave..."

These are highest quality CD-Rs, not commercially manufactured.

For those receiving this e-mail, $10 bucks each, which includes postage
and the 32 page liner notes.

Satisfaction (or at least astonishment and bemusement) guaranteed.

Citizen Kafka c/o Secret Museum
PO Box 23075
Brooklyn NY, 11202-3075

[phone].

All questions cheerfully answered. The source of this material is
primarily from homemade and micro-label LPs, with a few 45s and EPs
included. No 78s on this volume, they come later!

CK
--
Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air"
NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
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Subject: (exotica) This Friday night in SF
Date: 13 Jul 1999 16:38:05 EDT


Each & EVERY Friday night at the famous CW Saloon
is presented a sight denied past generations for unperfected until just last
week.
SIDESHOW A GO-GO

Sideshow & circus freaks abound:
Doc Molotov & Reverend David Apocolypse will feature all the same acts that
you're sick & tired of seeing but they will do them kinda OK this time.

*Trapeeze Go-Go Girls
*Fire Acts
*Machine art installations by Jean Poulet
*cat juggling (maybe)
*3 Headed lesbian Turrets victum pinhead will be fired out of a cannon into a
brick wall for your pleasure and entertainment

other acts too numerous to mention here

For this, our opening extravaganza, we will be honored to offer our stage to
International Sidshow Sensation

Zamora the Torture King

ZT King is considered by colleagues & fans alike to be the greatest living
sideshow & Bally performer at this time

King has written the book on the subject (view it at www.circusofthestars.com)

PLUS members of 7 of San Francisco's circuses will be in attendence to kick
off this weekly event

Disc Jockey Otto will spin tantilizing tunes and keep the music pumping all
night so you may dance with chicks from San Mateo (whether they are YOUR date
or not)

Admission ($3 - $5) will be determined by the "Wheel of Admission"
show starts at 10 pm and ends at last call
CW Circus is at
917 Folsom St
974-1585
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Cannot Become Obsolete #5
Date: 13 Jul 1999 16:49:39 -0400


A few months ago I completed issue #5 of my zine, Cannot Become
Obsolete, but forgot to notify this group about it.

For those of you unfamiliar with 'Cannot Become Obsolete', I base each
issue on a compilation cassette tape made from my collection of
old/unusual LPs.  My articles tend to tangent off onto personal stories
and observations from my own life.  Issue #5 is 52 pages densely filled
with various miscellany and absolutely no advertising.

An added feature of CBO #5 are several real-life stories from a recent
trip I took to the exotic lands of Singapore and Bali.... and also
pictures of my own tiki-basement room.

This issue also features some thrift-store related photos.  One is of my
bathroom, which now is decorated with 364 of those plastic floating
carnival ducks with the numbers underneath.  The other set is from a
roll of film that was left in a camera I thrifted....and the various
beach/party photos that were discovered when I had the roll developed.

LPs included in this issue are...
- Project 3 / Popular Science Stereo Test Record
- Katie Lee's 'Songs of Couch and Consultation'
- The Brothers Four sing Lennon/McCartney
- Little Richard Miller (born without arms and legs)
- Johnny Cash Sings the Songs that Made him Famous
- The Royal Guardsmen 'Snoopy and his Friends'
- Dick Schory's 'Re-percussion'
- Martin Denny's 'The Enchanted Sea'
- Arthur Murray 'Rock and Roll'
- Arthur Lyman's 'The Legend of Pele' ............and many many more.


Single issues are $3....and $7 for a 3 issue subscription.  (outside of
the U.S. the price is $4 (single) and $10 for a subscription)  To
receive an issue, send cash to:

Vern Stoltz
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Take a look at this for a resource!
Date: 13 Jul 1999 17:12:12 -0400


http://www.recordmaster.com/whats.cfm

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Knack
Date: 13 Jul 1999 14:17:04 -0700 (PDT)


I LOVE every tune on the Knack soundtrack. But as an album, it's the
same theme over and over in ten or so different ways.  THat gets very
tiresome listening all the way through.  BUt you could easily put any
of the tunes into a mix.

That's my take.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Knack, Wednesday's Child
Date: 13 Jul 1999 23:38:52 +0200


Sorry! I shouldn't write e-mail when I have sunstroke. The soundtrack is of
course not called "Wednesday's Child", but "The Quiller Memorandum". So my
question is: are there other good tunes except "Wednesday's Child" on it?
Is it worth buying?

Thanks!
/Hans

>At 10:20 AM 7/13/99 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>>
>><< Also the Barry soundtrack was cool. Are there any other Barry
soundstracks
>> that are kind of 'jazzy?" >>
>>
>>there are a couple of John Barry scores that continue to elude me, "Four In
>>The Morning" (Roulette 1966) and the very rare "The Wrong Box" (Mainstream
>>1966).
>
>What about the Wednesday's Child Soundtrack? I think the Title track is
>fantastic, but is the rest of the soundtrack any good? Should I buy it?
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Subject: (exotica) LURKER CHALLENGE!
Date: 13 Jul 1999 14:46:27 -0700


<<However, hearing from Wade (who are ya', Wade?) made me realize that only
certain strange topics bring out the lurkers..and strange records, is
certainly one of them.
So, just a quick question to all you lurkers who don't have time to post,
or have more of a life than some of us do!;0...Tell us about your
"strangest" or most rare-album, and please make it exotica-appropriate!>>

Okay, here it goes.  My vinyl fetishes are mainly for exotica, lounge, and
Christmas music.  Some of my most recent acquisitions include:

- "The Don Ho Christmas Album" A double-whammy since it combines Hawaiian
and Christmas! (or two shots if you're playing the exotica mail list
drinking game!)

- "Christmas at the Hawaiian Village" a 45 by Alfred Apaka. I got both the
Don Ho and the Alfred Apaka during the same week!  What a week!

- "Let's Dance with The Three Suns" This album purchase can be directly
attributed to the exotica mail list since I had never purchased any Three
Suns albums until I started reading favorable reviews here in the misdt of
my lurking.  Many more similar purchases are sure to follow 'cause that's
some good s#@$.

- "The Stripper and Other Fun Songs for the Family" an LP by David Rose and
His Orchestra. This album has some very cool black and white pictures of a
lady in lingerie, fishnet stockings, and a feather boa.  But, somehow I
don't get the connection between stripping and "family fun".  Am I missing
something?

-- "Hawaiian Wedding Song" an LP by Andy Williams.  The less said about this
snoozer the better.

Generally speaking my favorite Hawiian/exotica artists include (but are not
limited to!):  Arthur Lyman, Alfred Apaka, Ray Kinney, and Les Baxter.  But
like the rest of you, I'm willing to try anything once.

Hope this lives up to the "Lurker Challenge", Ms. Fondle.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Blond Barry Babe
Date: 13 Jul 1999 15:17:50 -0400







Another Barry question: What is the sexy blond girl from Manitas De Plata's
"Hommages" LP cover, doing on John Barry's "Themeology" CD cover?

/Hans

>>>Probably the same thing the QUE MANGO gal is doing on the cover of my
TIAJUANA HORNS PLAYS THE BEATLES(I think that's the title)...but it's on a
different label than QUE MANGO, which I believe is on Pickwick..and the
TIAJUANA is on Alshire or some such...Who knew such a horsey dame could
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Blond Barry Babe from Bashful Bend?
Date: 13 Jul 1999 19:01:44 -0400


THAT explains the albums, Double Play by Russ Freeman and Victor Feldman
and You Get More Bounce with Curtis Counce.  What a relief, as I thought
that this woman (who seemingly cannot take a picture without her mouth
being open) was three separate fellows. :^)  Separated at birth?  Also,
take a look at the front cover of Ron McCroby Plays Puccolo and the back
cover of Miles Davis' Tutu for a laugh.  They have the same expression!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) LURKER CHALLENGE!
Date: 13 Jul 1999 17:09:46 -0700


[e-mail] wrote:
> Tell us about your
> "strangest" or most rare-album, and please make it exotica-appropriate!

Would my copy of the album by the Temple City Kazoo Orchestra count? (late 70s
vintage, great version of Whole Lotta Love!)

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Subject: Re: SV: SV: (exotica) Mad, Mad, Mad World Quotes
Date: 13 Jul 1999 20:59:30 EDT


In a message dated 7/13/99 10:14:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Sorry for my earlier post. It wasnt my intention to hurt anyones feelings.
It was just that Bad Me. Will give the movie another chance. Maybe this time
I will even like it.

 once again...
 sooooooooooorry
 Magnus. >>

I don't think anyone was upset.  Just explaining why they liked it.
Different cultures -- different taste.  Sort of like those mod interiors in
Volvos in the early 1980's.  Everyone in the US was "Like, haven't the Swedes
learned that the 1960's are over!"

And most of us wish the interiors of cars looked like that now.

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Subject: RE: (exotica) The Singing Dogs?
Date: 13 Jul 1999 20:27:14 -0700


The "singing dogs" are actually barks of different pitch spliced together to create a song.
Jerry

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>I'm assuming
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From: Michael Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Three Suns Web updates imminent
Date: 13 Jul 1999 22:42:33 -0500



Hoo-ee, I've been under too much life lately. (Again, a backlog of unread
Exotica digests...eek!) Thanks to EVERYBODY for their kind feedback and
contributions to my Three Suns Web site. Some of you I actually got
replies out to! Hopefully in the next few days I should get a MAJOR
revision online, with some new navigation, a couple of new areas, and
some updates from folks. I'll post here again on the subject when it
happens. Thanks again for your support!!!

http://members.tripod.com/~ThreeSuns/

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Subject: (exotica) FS: stuff up on eBay
Date: 13 Jul 1999 22:52:24 -0500



Running low on physical space and cash, I finally got around to putting
up some stuff on eBay -- mostly duplicates of stuff I since got in stereo
or better condition. (sorry, Otto and any other eBay dislikers; this is
the first time I've sold stuff through eBay, which seems to be the best
way to sell this stuff compared to earlier methods of me selling stuff
over the Net)

I did try to set what I deemed pretty low, reasonable minimum bids ($5 on
average).

Moog, Theremin, prepared Ferrante & Teicher, Mrs. Miller, Stereo Action,
Outer Space, non-soundtrack John Barry...and more oddball stuff you might
be interested or totally disinterested in!

http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=planetten

Feel free to e-mail me if you need any more info on any of these items.

Thanks for the space,

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Subject: (exotica) Enoch: 1999
Date: 13 Jul 1999 23:11:36 -0500



Until a week or two or go, I was going to wimp out and not do my annual
Enoch Light birthday memorial bash in August. Despite better judgment and
overcommitments, I'm doing it anyway (the fourth year running!).

I'm tying it in with "An Evening For the Jet Set" scheduled for August
14th at the Highland Theater in Akron. In addition to me DJing, there
will be a screening of a 35mm print of La Dolce Vita, and possibly the
final performance by local music outfit the King Dapper Combo.

The past couple of years, other promoters had lined up their own
Enoch-related themed events to create a sort of national, (and last year,
international) jet set synergistic Enoch vibe. E-mail me if you're
interested in doing a local event (or radio special) sometime around
Enoch's birthday on August 18th and I'll tie it in with online/other
promotion. (1999 is also the 40th anniversary of Persuasive Percussion
and Command Records, BTW)

So far, Otto Von Stroheim is planning an event in San Francisco on the
17th. Watch this space (and, invariably Robbie's Spaced Out site) for
details as they happen.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Chaino
Date: 14 Jul 1999 00:18:29 -0400


>Also, the "real" Chaino is also on the oh-too-fab EXOTIC
>PERCUSSION AND BRILLIANT BRASS, one of my top Exotica rekkids of all time.

This record (on the "directional sound" label) is, like several of their
titles, a repackaging of an Omega release (tho it's possible this title
never got released before Omega went under). DS took Omega records by the
Francis Bay Orchestra (recorded in Belgium and licensed by Omega for
release in the USA) and changed the name to "John Evans and his
Orchestra". (The Bay group's pianist was named Jean Evans, so that's
where this particular inspiration came from.) EPaBB is one of these
repackaged records.

Where it starts to get interesting is in figuring out how Chaino fits in.
It seems highly unlikely that he flew to Belgium to sit in with Bay's
ensemble. More probable is that Omega had a bunch of Bay tracks in a
pseudo-Martin-Denny style (Bay's group specialized in mimicking the
styles of other popular bandleaders) and they interspersed some cuts by
Chaino, thereby creating an album featuring both, even though they were
never on the same continent, let alone the same recording studio.

So back to the Directional Sound reissue: their practice was to mix cuts
from different records to disguise the fact that these were reissued
recordings. So what's on EPaBB is likely >most< of what the original
Omega version contained, but with the possibility that some cuts were
dropped and others added from elsewhere. It's even conceivable that the
cuts by Chaino never made it to the DS reissue at all, but absent a copy
of the original Omega (which is pictured in the notes for the recent
Chaino CD) to compare, it's impossible to tell.

This is so confusing that I'm convinced that at least one of the tracks
on the recent Chaino CD is not Chaino at all, but one of the
faux-Martin-Denny Francis Bay numbers!




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) re: The Knack
Date: 14 Jul 1999 01:08:20 EDT


With all this talkk about John Barry and The Knack I thought some of you
might want to know that the CD is now on eBay for $6.00.  You can find it at

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=131026560

My apologies to the eBay haters.  You may click on delete now.

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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sydney siders
Date: 13 Jul 1999 21:54:41 -0700 (PDT)


Hi, listers:

I'm in an internet cafe in Sydney, doing email.
Every second business now seems to be an e-cafe, full of backpackers, a
real change since I was here two years ago.  Last night, I went to a
launch of the new
academic book on exotica, edited by Phil Hayward, Widening the Horizon
-- or something like that.  I spent this morning trolling through the
used music stores on Pitt Street, one of which has an upstairs full of
easy listening albums running about $1-$2.  I
got lots of movie-theme compilations I haven't seen before, and a fab
bossa nova album whose cover shows someone putting albums with "mambo"
and "twist" on their sleeves into a trash can.

It's no trip to Cleveland, but it will have to do.

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From: Peter Hipwell <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) The Singing Dogs?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 11:01:52 +0100


> > I'm assuming these are actually, well, singing dogs, but does
> > anyone know for sure?
>
> The "singing dogs" are actually barks of different pitch spliced
> together to create a song.
>

Fantastic! Looks like I'll be back off to that shop then...

This has just brought something to mind... does anyone know of a
similar concept, an album of songs made out of sampled pig squeals? I
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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Singing Dogs?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 06:29:30 EDT


In a message dated 7/13/99 8:24:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< The "singing dogs" are actually barks of different pitch spliced together
to create a song.
 Jerry
  >>

Yeah, I remember learning this a few years back and was a little depressed.
And you know -- no one ever talks about the organ player in the song.  It is
my favorite part.

And don't you think Dean Elliot kicked himself in the ass for not getting in
on this?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Singing PIGS?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 06:31:33 EDT


In a message dated 7/14/99 3:03:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< does anyone know of a
 similar concept, an album of songs made out of sampled pig squeals? >>

I think it was called "Arnold Ziffel Finds His Nut".  It was on the Hambone
label and made of pink vinyl.

Coundn't resist,

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Singing Chickens
Date: 14 Jul 1999 11:39:01 +0100


Just kidding. There's no singing chickens.




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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) The Singing Chickens
Date: 14 Jul 1999 13:29:59 +0200


>Just kidding. There's no singing chickens.
>

You're wrong! A heard a whole bunch out in the country last week. And a =
similar-looking bird (with beard!!!) going KuckelikUUUUU to straighten =
things up.

weird
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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) No. 54 - the house with the bamboo door
Date: 14 Jul 1999 14:54:47 +0100


Is this an Andy Williams track? from what lp?

Anybody.....?  Anybody......................?




Thanks all

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Subject: (exotica) Re: No. 54 - the house with the bamboo door
Date: 14 Jul 1999 09:01:14 -0500


>Is this an Andy Williams track? from what lp?
>
>Anybody.....?  Anybody......................?
>


Earl Grant

i can't remember what LP it's originally from, but the song is on his
Greatest Hits record too.

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Subject: (exotica) [obits] Everett Greenbaum,James ``Jimmy'' Newman,Ibrahim Kucuk
Date: 14 Jul 1999 10:13:07 -0500


 *Everett Greenbaum
    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Everett Greenbaum, who collaborated with fellow writer
Jim Fritzell on the 1950s television sitcom ``Mr. Peepers'' and other series
including ``The Andy Griffith Show'' and ``M-A-S-H,'' died Sunday of brain
cancer. He was 79.
    Greenbaum, a native of Buffalo, N.Y., studied at the Massachusetts
Institute of Technology and the Sorbonne in Paris and served in World War II
as a Navy pilot and flight instructor.
    After the war, he wrote, produced and starred in a Boston radio show called
``Greenbaum's Gallery.'' Greenbaum and Fritzell teamed up in 1952 for Wally
Cox's ``Mr. Peepers,'' a collaboration that continued until Fritzell's death
in 1979.
    The pair earned a Peabody Award, four Emmy nominations, three Writers Guild
comedy awards and the Paddy Chayefsky Laurel Award. They wrote eight feature
films, including ``Good Neighbor Sam'' and ``The Shakiest Gun in the West.''
    On his own, Greenbaum wrote two books, including the memoir ``The
Goldenberg Who Couldn't Dance,'' and worked on ``The George Gobel Show.'' He
also acted, appearing in brief roles on Griffith's ``Matlock'' series and
other programs.

 *James ``Jimmy'' Newman
    LAS VEGAS (AP) -- James ``Jimmy'' Newman, the son and manager of singer
Gladys Knight, died Saturday. He was 36.
    The cause of death was not released. The coroner said it appears that
Newman died of natural causes. An autopsy is pending.
    Newman managed his mother's career through his Newman Management Inc., one
of four Knight-related companies sharing offices in Southern Nevada.
    This year, Newman helped his mother launch Many Roads, a specialty record
label formed to support her recent gospel album, ``Many Different Roads,''
and other gospel artists.
    According to the album's media materials, Newman brought many of the songs
to Knight's attention, including ``Jesus' Love Is Like a River,'' a song
co-written by Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch.

   ISTANBUL, July 13 (AFP) - A cafe owner in Turkey shot and killed a
customer who wanted to use the toilet, the Anatolia news agency reported
Tuesday.
   Ibrahim Kucuk asked the owner of the Dodurgalilar coffehouse in
Incirliova near Aydin in western Turkey to use the restroom, but the owner
refused, saying he did not want smells in his toilet, the agency said.
   Enraged by the ensuing discussion with his customer, the owner,
identified by his initials A.D., drew a revolver and shot Kucuk, who died in
hospital.
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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Was Brazil '66 ever on TV?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 07:44:53 -0700 (PDT)


Boy, that subject-line coulda been the post
itself..but I will just phil-n-the-blanks with:  Is
there any existing footage of Brazil '66 on TV, either
in the North American or South American tele-history?
I bet they woulda been great to see lives-ville.
Jane Fondle(oh, shoot, that was a TV question again!;)

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Subject: (exotica) Politicians=musicians(was Lou's obits)
Date: 14 Jul 1999 10:49:16 -0400






 *James ``Jimmy'' Newman
     LAS VEGAS (AP) -- James ``Jimmy'' Newman, the son and manager of
singer
Gladys Knight, died Saturday. He was 36.  According to the album's media
materials, Newman brought many of the songs
to Knight's attention, including ``Jesus' Love Is Like a River,'' a song
co-written by Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch.

>>>OK, this ALSO reminds me of a silly bit of trivia! Yeesh(sorry to get
political) but WHO KNEW Orinn Hatch knows his way around the keys...Did you
know, that the only #1 song, written by a United States politician in
OFFICE, was by VP Dawes(don't know his first name, or for which US Prez), a
song called "All in the Game"-an instrumental when Dawes wrote it.

Any other chart-hittin' politicians we should know about(don't know if
Orinn's song charted..)?  Of course, there is the late, GREAT Sonny Bono,
and we don't count the Kenny G-esque sax noodlings or our own Prez...

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Subject: (exotica) Politicians=musicians(was Lou's obits)
Date: 14 Jul 1999 11:42:39 -0400



>Any other chart-hittin' politicians we should know about(don't know if
>Orinn's song charted..)?  Of course, there is the late, GREAT Sonny Bono,
>and we don't count the Kenny G-esque sax noodlings or our own Prez...

>Janey's on a bummer...
Does this mean that we may hear from Jane, but we can't Caesar?

Well, you can "laugh at me", but "Be-Bop-A-Lula" was co-written by Sheriff
Bill Davis.  Also, Jerry Butler of the Impressions was an alderman in
Chicago, I believe.  Jimmie Davis wrote or co-wrote "You Are My Sunshine"
and he ended being Governor, didn't he?

 W. C. Handy said that one of his songs (St. Louis Blues?) was originally a
campaign song for a politician, which got a huge response.

Screaming Lord Sutch used to run for office every election.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Politicians=musicians(was Lou's obits)
Date: 14 Jul 1999 09:06:28 PDT


weeeeell...
in the last presidential elections in ireland one of the runners was called
rosemary scallon, who used to trade under the name of dana back in the day
when she won the evertacky eurovision song contest nearly 30 years ago.
emboldened by this and a decade spent doing cheesy christian tv in the us
she ran, and got elected for the european parliament. embarrassing really,
the guy who wrote the eurovision winning masterpiece lived behind me where i
lived as a kid. his wife left him in some kind of revenge for his crimes
against humanity (and fondness for babysitters...).
or so we believed.
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: CD Jungle Comp...
Date: 14 Jul 1999 13:53:15 +0200


Jungle exotica, R&B twist and Vegas lounge music. Not as good as "Lost
treasures!", but still good stuff.

        Johan


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Date: 14 Jul 1999 13:04:49 -0400




 Screaming Lord Sutch used to run for office every election.

I am not a nut, elect me,
Brian Phillips



>>>Ed Saunders from the Fuggs used to run for President, too!
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Subject: (exotica) Dick's still singin'
Date: 14 Jul 1999 10:37:35 -0500



Forward from:
Newsgroups: rec.music.a-cappella
>Catalog manager Laura G. was thrilled today when she took a large order
>from Mr Dick Van Dyke himself! He ordered intructional material as he has
>formed a barbershop quartet from the crew of the show who rehearse on the
>set during down time.
>
>Mr Van Dyke is a big fan of barbershop and hosted one the shows at the
>recent convention. He was very friendly and charming on the phone and
>Laura is rushing out tonight to rent Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.
>
>Now if we could only get him to work on his British accent (We still
>havn't forgiven him for Mary Poppins..)
>
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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: SV: (exotica) CHAINO, SAD NEWS
Date: 14 Jul 1999 19:11:35 +0200


><< Sad news indeed, so the liner notes on the reissue cd was fake too. =
I like=20
>that.=20
>Well, I do believe that Kirby Allen said he found Chaino in a club in =
South=20
>Central LA in the 50s....the liner notes on the CD that quote the LP =
liners=20
>are...well, they make the myth a legend!


You are right! Lets keep Chaino a myth/legend. No more questions from =
me.


>>Chaino and Kirby appear in two films, "The Devil's Hand", and =
"Nighttide.
> Didnt know that, I have seen Nighttide, its a good movie, I remember a =

>frantic bongo player on the beach, am I correct? Or is that scene in =
another=20
>movie?

 >>I believe that is it as I've been told...I'm trying to find both of=20
>>the movies myself!

I guess both are availabe at either something weird, sinister cinema or =
trash palace.=20

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Was Brazil '66 ever on TV?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 18:57:35 +0100 (BST)


At 07:44 14/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Boy, that subject-line coulda been the post
>itself..but I will just phil-n-the-blanks with:  Is
>there any existing footage of Brazil '66 on TV, either
>in the North American or South American tele-history?

I'm sure that I have friends in LA that said if you go to the Museum of
Television and Film, they have an archive system where you punch in who you
want and it brings up footage. I am sure they said that Brasil 66 is on it.
I have yet to check it out myself, but if it is the LAST thing I do, I will
next time I go to LA.

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Subject: (exotica) bellybongo king of bellybongo
Date: 14 Jul 1999 19:56:08 +0200


>I am not a nut, elect me,
>Brian Phillips

This spring I elected myself the King of myself.=20
I felt the Earth +-+shake+-+ and ~~~rumble~~~
for a week

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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Politicians=musicians(was Lou's obits)
Date: 14 Jul 1999 20:04:37 +0200


 >Any other chart-hittin' politicians we should know about(don't know if
>Orinn's song charted..)?  Of course, there is the late, GREAT Sonny Bono,
>and we don't count the Kenny G-esque sax noodlings or our own Prez...



Wasn't Tony Blair in a band? I haven't been able to hear any of his
(not chart-hittin, I suppose) music yet, but found a photo of him
playing a guitar in a girls school not too long ago, very cute.


Former German president Walter Scheel had a hit (when was it, late 70t's?)
with a folksong, Hoch auf den gelben Wa-hagen, more likely cover material
for Die Fischer Choere or Heino, I'm almost sure they did it, actually.


Former Ecuadorian president Abdullah Buccaram, aka El Loco, recorded
a whole album (part of his campaign, when was it, some five years ago)
of stuff like Jailhouse Rock in Spanish. It was huge in Ecuador.


Former president of Republica Serpska, Karadzjic, is, apart from being
a psychiatrist and a war criminal, a poet and a musician who used to
accompagny his historic noodlings on the ud or somesuch instrument.
I haven't got a clue, whether it made the Bosnian and Serbian charts.


Cheers, Ton


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Politicians=musicians(was Lou's obits)
Date: 14 Jul 1999 14:13:27 EDT



In a message dated 7/14/99 11:24:25 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Any other chart-hittin' politicians we should know about

Mike Curb, former Lieutenant Governor of Calif. in a pre-previous life wrote
some stuff (damned if I can furnish titles however)


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Date: 14 Jul 1999 14:14:34 EDT



In a message dated 7/14/99 11:43:18 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Jerry Butler of the Impressions was an alderman in
>Chicago

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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Was Brazil '66 ever on TV?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 14:18:00 EDT



In a message dated 7/14/99 1:58:36 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I'm sure that I have friends in LA that said if you go to the Museum of
>Television and Film, they have an archive system where you punch in who you
>want and it brings up footage.

Or The Museum of Broadcasting in Manhattan at 53rd & 5th (sorry its not at
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (exotica) Politicians=musicians(was Lou's obits)
Date: 14 Jul 1999 11:21:12 -0700 (PDT)


Yes. He had a hand in either assembling musicians (eg:
The Arrows aka Sidewalk Sounds) for late 60s early 70s
biker films (Born Losers, Wild Angels,...) or writing
material - can't recall; there were also several lps
released by The Mike Curb Congregation (damned if I
can furnish titles either, even though I have a few of
these. And they are awful).
>
> Mike Curb, former Lieutenant Governor of Calif. in a
> pre-previous life wrote
> some stuff (damned if I can furnish titles however)

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Date: 14 Jul 1999 14:19:02 -0400






In a message dated 7/14/99 11:24:25 AM, [e-mail]
wrote:

>Any other chart-hittin' politicians we should know about

Mike Curb, former Lieutenant Governor of Calif. in a pre-previous life
wrote
some stuff (damned if I can furnish titles however)

>>>Ahh, yes, and he did form the Tower Record label,and there is the Mike
Curb Generation....man, this is beginning to smart!JF

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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Politicians=musicians(was Lou's obits)
Date: 14 Jul 1999 13:30:28 -0500


Jane Fondle wrote:

> Any other chart-hittin' politicians we should know about(don't know if
> Orinn's song charted..)?  Of course, there is the late, GREAT Sonny Bono,
> and we don't count the Kenny G-esque sax noodlings or our own Prez...

I guess that means we also can't include MN Gov. Jesse Ventura's duet with
Warren Zevon on "Werewolves Of London" as performed at Ventura's
inauguration.

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Subject: (exotica) Re:  Was Brazil '66 ever on TV?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 13:46:09 -0500


> >Boy, that subject-line coulda been the post
> >itself..but I will just phil-n-the-blanks with:  Is
> >there any existing footage of Brazil '66 on TV, either
> >in the North American or South American tele-history?


you can barely see it in the scan here:
http://www.tamboo.com/clubvelvet/lp/Selections15.html

but the "as seen on TV" sticker on my LP says they performed "The
Look of Love" on an awards show of somesuch.

  - kini

visit...

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Subject: (exotica) fwd: LOC American Memory site
Date: 14 Jul 1999 14:45:43 -0500


    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Want to while away a summer afternoon with a nearly
century-old animated comic strip? Well, the Library of Congress is at your
service.
    ``Krazy Kat'' is there, the strip President Wilson was said to read before
Cabinet meetings, and also ``The Katzenjammer Kids'' and ``Keeping Up With
the Joneses.'' There are 21 animated films and two fragments, covering the
years 1900 to 1921.
    And they're available to anyone with a computer via the Internet. To find
them go to the Library of Congress Web site, http://www.loc.gov, and click
on American Memory. Then search for the keyword animation.
    The earliest is Thomas A. Edison's ``The Enchanted Drawing.'' In less than
a minute and a half, it shows what the inventor's catalog called ``an
elderly gentleman of most comical features and expression pouring wine out
of the bottle.''
    ``These films also reveal some of the social attitudes of early 20th
century America,'' the library said in its announcement.
    For the more active, the library site also offers dancing lessons. It has
put ``An American Ballroom Companion'' on the Web with extracts from more
than 200 books. They describe social dancing back to the time of Columbus.
Video demonstrations allow the student to compare printed instructions with
actual movements.
    No macarena, though -- the dance manuals only go up to 1920.
    Collections display presidential papers, Civil War photos, 1,500 images
from what the library calls ``the golden age of jazz'' and an outstanding
assemblage of baseball cards.
    The National Digital Library now has about 2 million items in 60 separate
collections and expects to have 6 million next year when the Library of
Congress celebrates it 200th birthday. That compares with 18 million books
in the stacks and nearly 100 million other items such as maps and photos.
    A digitized ``Southern Mosaic'' presents 25 hours of folk music collected
60 years ago by John and Ruby Lomax -- nearly 700 songs, over 100 of them in
Spanish. The couple traveled 6,502 miles through eight Southern states for
material. They came up with a unique collection of ballads, blues,
children's songs, cowboy songs, fiddle tunes, hollers, lullabies, religious
dramas, spirituals and work songs.
    When the library's geography division put together a collection called
``Mapping the National Parks,'' it found maps of the areas going back 400
years, centuries before there was such a thing as a national park. It covers
four parks, including the Acadia National Park in Maine, the first coastal
park, and adds the appropriate nautical charts.
    Links from the Grand Canyon presentation carry the viewer to spectacular
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dick's still singin'
Date: 14 Jul 1999 14:58:13 EDT


Don't forget his killer LP on Command "Songs I Like By Dick Van Dyke".  The
arrangements rule even if Dick doesn't.
Larry


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Subject: (exotica) [obit] Aaron ``Bunny'' Lapin
Date: 14 Jul 1999 15:27:45 -0500


    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Reddi-wip founder Aaron ``Bunny'' Lapin, who put
whipped cream in a spray can, has died. He was 85.
    Lapin, who had homes in New York City, Miami and Los Angeles, died Saturday
of heart failure at a Los Angeles hospital, Hillside Memorial Park said today.
    Reddi-wip was first sold in 1948 by St. Louis milkmen. Distribution quickly
expanded throughout the United States and Canada.
    One out of every two cans of aerosol topping now purchased in the United
States each year is Reddi-wip.
    In addition to packaging Reddi-wip, Lapin's Clayton Corp. made and sold its
own valves for the whipped cream enterprise. Clayton was one of the first
companies to put shaving cream in an aerosol can, but Lapin decided not to
market the product because he didn't want to compete with shaving cream
makers who might buy his valves.
    Clayton and its subsidiaries make industrial valves and closures, caulk,
adhesives and foamed plastic products such as insulation and cushioning
materials.
    Born in St. Louis on Jan. 5, 1914, Lapin was educated at the University of
Missouri and attended Washington University School of Law in St. Louis.
    Lapin lost control of Clayton and sold his interest in Reddi-wip, which is
now made by Beatrice Foods Inc. in Waukesha, Wis. Beatrice is a subsidiary
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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Singing Chickens
Date: 14 Jul 1999 18:21:08 +0000


At 11:39 AM 14-07-99 +0100, you wrote:
>Just kidding. There's no singing chickens.
No, but there is "The Henhouse Five Plus Two"...(Ray Stevens actually)
with a whole tune (I believe it was "In the Mood") sung AS IF by chickens.
Hilarious!  Right up there with Slim Gailliard's chicken tune.

Byron

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Subject: (exotica) What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 21:16:27 EDT


I just noticed that our old friends at Dusty Groove are carrying the CD copy
of Les Baxter's,  African Blue -- Exotic Rhythms Of Les Baxter.   I was
wondering what the general feel of this late '60 material with a smaller
combo sounds is?

-Roy


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Was Brazil '66 ever on TV?
Date: 14 Jul 1999 21:18:27 EDT


I'm sure they were on several times but I have them on a TV show (can't
remember the show as all I have is their segment not the whole show)

They are playing Mas Que Nada and are on a house boat that is docked

I guess the theme of the show was to tour about the harbor and visit various
parties?

I also have a Herb Alpert segmant that I think is from the same show

The Secret Cinema (Jay Schwartz) is coming to SF for the weekend of Sept 18
and I'm sure he'll have a couple of segments too

aloha
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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) bellybongo king of bellybongo
Date: 15 Jul 1999 04:26:55 +0200


>I felt the Earth +-+shake+-+ and ~~~rumble~~~
>for a week


Anyone feel like discuss this experience of mine and maybe Yours off =
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Whats exotic to You?

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Subject: (exotica) Prima popularaire
Date: 14 Jul 1999 22:05:26 +0000


Just at the record store (separate post on that) and saw quite a lot of new
re-releases of Louis Prima recordings (and Keely Smith and Sam Butera).
That Gap ad has done wonders for his career.  Too bad he isn't here to
enjoy it, but I hope Ms. Smith and Mr. Butera are getting something out of it.

In addition to an Ultra Lounge double CD set, Sam Butera also has an Ultra
Lounge CD.  Then there is a CD featuring Ms. S and Mr. B (or is that 2 CDs?
 I didn't notice).  Also there is a CD of apparently his pre-Capitol stuff.
 It looks like most of the material released by Bear Family in a boxed set
is now on individual CDs directly from Capitol.

Of course, this is only months after I bought the Bear Family set (with a
faulty volume 1 CD...the best of the set!).

Anyone seen or heard these ultra lounge singing CDs? Julie London also has
a single CD in this "series."  I understand Mrs. Miller is supposed to have
one, but I haven't seen it.

Also ran across a new issue of Peter Gunn on RCA which had not only the
entire first album but several cuts from "More Peter Gunn" (which, of
course, means that the rest of "More Peter Gunn" won't be released on CD).

Byron Caloz
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Subject: (exotica) Those 50 cent LPs
Date: 14 Jul 1999 22:31:35 +0000


I had the cover for a long time waiting for get the record.  Wouldn't you
know I would find the record and the cover in TOP condition for 50 cents at
one of Portland's bigger used record/CD stores.

Ferrante and Teicher Latin Pianos UAS 6135 is certainly one of their better
UA titles.  While some of the tunes there were better done for either
ABC/Paramount or Westminster (Oye Negra, for instance), all of the album
is great.  They do a little prepared piano and the rhythm parts from Don
Costa's orchestra exploit stereo very well.

The bonus was the inner sleeve which listed what I believe is the entire
Ultra Audio series.  There are 14 records, including 8515 which is a
sampler of
what came before (8500-8512).  That means there may or may not have been
and 8513 or 8514.  Anyone know for sure?  They may have been planning two
more, but maybe UA pulled the plug?

I do know several of them are well worth finding...two Terry Snyder, the
Don Costa, Two Ferrante and Teicher and Al Caiola's superior "Guitars
Woodwinds and Bongos" (which I have as re-released album called "The Good
Life" I believe).

Also got:
Magnificent Movie Themes Enoch Light  Command RS 887 SD
Big Bold and Brassy  Enoch Light  Command  RS 818 SD  (my second copy now)
Let's Dance Dance Dance  David Carroll  Mercury MG 20649
You're Just In Love  Richard Hayman  Ambassador S 98059 (reissue of Mercury)
Rainy Night in Shangra-La  Jonathan Knight, harpsichord Viva V 36011
    This may be fluff, but I had to try it out for tunes such as Tiki
Waterfall, Quiet Village (which they say is by Less Baxter, ouch!) and
Pagan Love Song.
The Big Guitar  Owen Bradley  Decca  DL 8868 (if it is big it must be good??)
Topkapi OST  Manos Hadjidakis UA  UAL 4118 Mono
Midnight in Moscow  Kenny Ball  Kapp KL 1276 Mono
The Hits of Joe "Fingers" Carr  Capitol DT 8-2019 Duophonic (fake stereo)
Now Playing! (motion picture music)  Ava AS-23 (finally got their act
together and no mention of Choreo anywhere on the album...unlike some of
the early releases on this MGM label)
My Favorite Places  Walter Scharf  Jubilee  JGS 1050 Stereo (all Sharf tunes)

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Prima popularaire
Date: 15 Jul 1999 04:50:27 -0400


At 10:05 PM 7/14/99 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Also ran across a new issue of Peter Gunn on RCA which had not only the
>entire first album but several cuts from "More Peter Gunn" (which, of
>course, means that the rest of "More Peter Gunn" won't be released on CD).

By the way, what is on the cover of the original issue of "Peter Gunn"?  I
have two copies, both with different covers and I find it hard to believe
that either one was the original.  One cover has a bunch of lopsided
rectangles, mostly yellow or orange.  The other cover is sort of turquoise
blue and has no picture, just a couple of pink lines that sort of resemble
lightning.  That one sort of looks like the cover on my copy of "More music
from Peter Gunn".
So what cover am I missing?

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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Meters update
Date: 15 Jul 1999 09:53:03 +0100


After the brief discussion we had last week about the Meters, I have just
seen one of their best LPs reissued (or is it bootlegged, I just can't tell
anymore). The LP is Struttin and is absolutely wicked. Breaks, The Hand
Clapping Song and non-stop quality throughout. I thoroughly recommend this
one!
Also, the name of the LP that I couldn't remember is Cissy Strutt and is
also excellent - very very dirty sounding, moody and thick.
Anyway - apologies for the OT post, Have a nice day!

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Chaino [and Francis Bay]
Date: 15 Jul 1999 07:53:10 -0400


>>Also, the "real" Chaino is also on the oh-too-fab EXOTIC
>>PERCUSSION AND BRILLIANT BRASS, one of my top Exotica rekkids of all time.
>
>This record (on the "directional sound" label) is, like several of their
>titles, a repackaging of an Omega release (tho it's possible this title
>never got released before Omega went under). DS took Omega records by the
>Francis Bay Orchestra (recorded in Belgium and licensed by Omega for
>release in the USA) and changed the name to "John Evans and his
>Orchestra".

Oh man! Thank you, mkoldys, for clearing up two huge mysteries for me.

The first was how it could be that the Premier company, better known for
Grade Z labels like Parade and Coronet, ever came up with the glossy
audiophile "Directional Sound" series to begin with. But the other mystery
was "who is this John Evans guy, and why have I never seen anything else by
him when he's obviously a pretty sizzling dude?" Now we know!

The really funny part is that I even made a note to myself about the John
Evans _Latin Brass_, "gets into Francis-Bay level hysteria on the uptempo
tracks." (One of my earliest Exotica finds was a Bay record on Phillips
with a truly artery-bursting version of "Mambo Jambo"--more than anything
else, the inspiration for my sig line.)

OK, that just leaves two other Directional Sound questions: Is bandleader
"Don Catelli" (_Passionate Percussion_, etc.) a real person? And how
did they get Nat Hentoff to go along with this charade to do the liner
notes--or is that bogus too?

muckrakingly,

 --Ross

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From: mkoldys <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Chaino [and Francis Bay]
Date: 15 Jul 1999 08:10:25 -0400


>d
>The really funny part is that I even made a note to myself about the John
>Evans _Latin Brass_, "gets into Francis-Bay level hysteria on the uptempo
>tracks."

I have a copy of "Latin Brass" and this one has some tracks on it I
cannot identify, so it probably isn't all Francis Bay. Similar to "Big
Band Percussion" which is mostly Francis Bay but throws in a few tracks
from the P.R.I. catalog by other bands.

>Is bandleader
"Don Catelli" (_Passionate Percussion_, etc.) a real person? And how
did they get Nat Hentoff to go along with this charade to do the liner
notes--or is that bogus too?

I assume Don Catelli is also a pseudonymn, but I've never found a copy of
the record so I haven't been able to compare it to other releases. There
are certainly enough old percussion titles in the P.R.I. backlog to pick
from! As for Nat, I'm sure he took the performer info he was given and
assumed it to be correct; other than that minor fraud, his notes are
really pretty good.

By the way, if you want a chuckle, compare the names of the players given
by Nat Hentoff with the genuine names as they appear on one of the Omega
releases. They were actually fairly clever in Americanizing them and
making them sound credible!

PS: Check out the track "Bad and Beautiful" on the Chaino reissue CD.
First you'll realize that it's actually a whole different song: that old
standard, "Temptation". Second, it's not Chaino--it's Francis Bay doing
his pseudo-Martin-Denny thing.




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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Prima popularaire
Date: 15 Jul 1999 08:22:46 -0500



>By the way, what is on the cover of the original issue of "Peter Gunn"?
>... One cover has a bunch of lopsided >rectangles, mostly yellow or
>orange.  The other cover is sort of turquoise
>blue and has no picture, just a couple of pink lines that sort of resemble
>lightning.
>So what cover am I missing?

I have both of these records. The lightning Gunn is labeled "Living
Stereo", leading me to believe the rectangles mosaic cover (Orthophonic
Hi-Fi) is older. Anybody know?  And anyone know who did the cover art on
either record?

Why do you think there are other covers, Nat?
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Prima popularaire
Date: 15 Jul 1999 10:06:28 -0400


[e-mail] wrote:

> Anyone seen or heard these ultra lounge singing CDs? Julie London also has
> a single CD in this "series."  I understand Mrs. Miller is supposed to have
> one, but I haven't seen it.

I have the Mrs. Miller, and it's a wonderful compilation of her stuff -
if you can really use the words wonderful and Mrs. Miller in the same
sentence :-)  Now I'm going to go look for the Julie London CD.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) peter thomas - warp back to earth
Date: 15 Jul 1999 15:21:12 +0100


A friend gave me a tape of this,  remixes and originals.  Can anyone
tell me,  is all of Peter Thomas stuff like this?  The originals have
some great stuff,  if a little fractured.  I've seen the remixes on
vinyl,  I guess the original versions weren't released in this format
(along with Moonflowers and Miniskirts)  does anyone know.  It seems a
shame. Just love those 2 ozs of black plastic.


El Maestro Con Queso

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) funny/filthy monkey
Date: 15 Jul 1999 12:16:33 -0500


Hey Ron! I got yer filthy monkey right here! (scroll down half way):
http://members.xoom.com/Dina3462/

-Lou





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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Meters update
Date: 15 Jul 1999 09:43:03 PDT


pretty much all of their stuff has been reissued recently and is bootleg
imo. the covers are camera copies (they actually look like they were taken
from colour photocopies to me) and the codes in the run off grooves are
'Meters 1" and 'Meters 2'.
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From: "Charles Moseley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Meters update
Date: 15 Jul 1999 17:56:15 +0100


However, I've seen three labels worth of issues recently: Josie (proper
labels, nice covers), Reprise (dodgy boots) and another one which I can't
remember. In fact I've seen the LP with the Clocks on the front in two
guises - One in perfect Josie outfit and the other in dodgy bootleg outfit.

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) "Herb"'s other life
Date: 15 Jul 1999 12:52:29 -0500


After reading Nat's excellent posts about visiting "Herb", and reading a
thread on "Herb" currently running in rec.arts.comics.misc , I think "Herb"
should stick with his his musical avocation and avoid comix fandom. Check
out this typical on-line reaction to the man and his work!:


In rec.arts.comics.misc, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>Please stop using your presumed support (or disdain) for
>Harvey/American Splendor to beat each other up.  Five minutes on the
>time-out stool for all of you.
>
>If you're playing nicely when I come back, I'll tell you a very true
>story about the book deal DC Comics offered him a good long time ago.
>They wanted him to script Howard the Duck.


In rec.arts.comics.misc, [e-mail] (B. P. Uecker) trolled:

>Are you really Harvey's wife?  Does he rely on medication to function
>around other people?  Don't you find his comics to be somewhat
>disturbing in their morbid egotism and mediocrity?  Do you ever have
>to put Harvey on the "time-out stool"?  What was it like to look into
>his eyes on your wedding day?  Grim?  Depressing?  Phantasmagoric?
>Was there an "incident" that resulted in the police showing up?  Just
>curious.
>
>If you are not Harvey's wife, then just pretend you are and answer my
>questions as best you can.  It won't really make much difference one
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) bad dealer
Date: 15 Jul 1999 17:37:26 +0000 (GMT)


Ebay and Yahoo bidders - beware of seller "records2".
He keeps payment & product and does not respond to
e-mail. He's done this on both auction sites.

If you want more information, mail me. Sorry to take
up space, but I know I would appreciate the heads up.

BW





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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Prima popularaire
Date: 15 Jul 1999 13:13:38 -0500


Magman, PI wrote:
>The one from 59? Its has a photo in black and white of Peter Gunn on the
>cover. I dont know if thats the original though. Not very attractive cover
>at all really.
>M

Thanks, detective! Didn't even know that B&W cover existed. It may predate
the two color ones Nat & I mentioned, neither one with a release date.
Liners say the music was recorded in August & September 58, so yours may be
the original. Is yours stereo or hi-fi?  Nice score, fella.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) bad dealer
Date: 15 Jul 1999 14:38:12 EDT


Thanks for the heads up.  Both sites offer free insurance.  I think eBay it
is up to $150, and on Yahoo it is up to $250.  Turn this deadbeat jerk in,
get your money refunded from the auction houses, and they will take care of
the idiot who has committed the felony of mail fraud.

You've gotta fill out a lot of stuff I bet, but you will get your money back
and protect others from this jerk!!

Best wishes,
Larry


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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) bad dealer
Date: 15 Jul 1999 18:58:17 +0000 (GMT)


BTW - this guy's site is on the ring of record
collectors at www.records.com. In case you were
thinking of shopping there:

http://www.recordalbums.com


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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [obit] Dr. Death
Date: 15 Jul 1999 15:59:55 -0500


I'm going to have to take a break from posting obits to the list.

I'm changing jobs, and will, at least for a while, lose access to the
AP/UPI/AFP/Reuters news feeds.

So, if y'all stumble across an interesting obit, don't assume I'll get to
it, please post it here yourself.

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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Dr. Death
Date: 15 Jul 1999 22:16:22 +0200



>I'm going to have to take a break from posting obits to the list.
>
>I'm changing jobs, and will, at least for a while, lose access to the
>AP/UPI/AFP/Reuters news feeds.


Well, thanks Lou, your morgue will be sadly missed.

Ton

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From: Lloyd Kandell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Not just another budget Hawaiian album
Date: 15 Jul 1999 11:51:44 -1000


Mimi Mayer wrote:
> I'll buy anything that's vaguely Hawaiian, but these are not to be miss=
ed.
> Too groovesque.

This may have been mentioned before, but this site has lots of good
vintage Hawaiian music,  http://www.cordinternational.com/
Right now we're groovin' to Myrtle K. Hilo/The Singing Cab Driver...
only 25 minutes, but killer stuff. From the original 1967 liner notes:
"...rest of the album is made up of 'rascal' songs, the enjoyment of
which is derived as much from their fine rhythm as from the risqu=E9
meaning of the Hawaiian words... so if you would like to attend a real
hawaiian party... raise your glass high... Kamau Kiaha.."
also, Lei Of Stars/Hawaii's Legendary Artists is a full 20 track comp
with incredible "chicken skin" (goose bumps) versions of Waikiki, Tropic
Tradewinds, White Ginger Blossoms, etc. as performed by Alfred Apaka,
Gabby Pahinui, Genoa Keawe, The Royal Hawaiian Serenaders...
originally recorded between 1944-1950 on the Bell and 49th State labels.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Not just another budget Hawaiian album
Date: 15 Jul 1999 18:27:12 -0500



>This may have been mentioned before, but this site has lots of good
>vintage Hawaiian music,  http://www.cordinternational.com/

Mahalo! One good URL deserves another. Just discovered Stevo's Hawaiian
Music Guide while looking for gamelan music. A superb index of sites with a
choice of several stereo Real Player radio feeds. Gabby Pahinui is crooning
and playing slack key right now on a Hawaii Jamz show. Cord International
is one of several sources of Hawaiian CDs and tapes Stevo lists. Get
yourself to this party wickiwicki. Mimi

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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Stanley Black
Date: 15 Jul 1999 20:05:05 -0700


Pathetically late to be chiming in on this, but another good one by him
is "Cuban Moonlight."  It's not on Phase 4.  I think it predates Phase
4.  When I first got it I thought it was too "straight" (i.e. no
bombastic percussion or stereo effects or crazy arrangements), but now
it seems tasty and well-done.

-- Brad


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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) April March
Date: 15 Jul 1999 20:08:27 -0700


I don't recall this woman being discussed here, but I heard 5 or so
songs by her recently.  She's from the U.S. but sings songs that sound
like French pop of the 1960s.  I liked what I heard and was surprised to
learn that she has 6-7 CDs out, and I was completely unaware of her
before.

Anyone care to enlighten/comment/critique?

-- Brad

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) [obit] Dr. Death
Date: 16 Jul 1999 02:29:03 +0200


Lou Smith wrote:

> I'm going to have to take a break from posting obits to the list.

Oh, no, Lou! I kill myself!
And not only that... I'll have to post it myself!

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Encyl. of Record Producers
Date: 15 Jul 1999 22:46:31 EDT


I'm forwarding this release from Del-Fi.  Seems like this book would appeal=20
to many on the list.  --David

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: July 15, 1999

Del-Fi's Bob Keane Featured Prominently in Billboard Book's Encylopedia
of Record Producers, Available Everywhere By The End of July

(Los Angeles) The long-awaited Encyclopedia of Record Producers: An
Indispensable Guide to the Most Important Record Producers in Music History,
a terrific new tome edited by Eric Olsen, Paul Verna and Carlo Wolff=20
(published
by Billboard Books, 1999), is set to begin arriving in stores before the end=20
of July.

Featured prominently in the book is a lengthy entry by Eric Olsen on Del-Fi
Records' president/owner and legendary producer Bob Keane, who produced
a wide variety of popular artists -- including Ritchie Valens, Johnny=20
Crawford, and
The Bobby Fuller Four -- during Del-Fi's original "golden decade" (1958-1968=
).
The 77-year old Keane -- recently dubbed "The World's Oldest Teenager" by a
clever music scribe --- still runs the legendary indie label, which is based=20
in
Los Angeles and still thriving.

Here's an excerpt from Olsen's entry about Keane's contribution to popular=20
music:

"An archetypal Southern California figure, Bob Keane=92s fascinating career
in music extends over 60 years, from the =9130s to the present.  From his da=
ys
as a child prodigy jazz clarinetist to his ownership of DEL-FI Records (and
subsidiaries Donna, Mustang, Bronco and Edsel) in the =9250s and =9260s (and =
its
resurrection in the =9190s) Keane has played, produced or released great mus=
ic
from his own big band jazz to Sam Cooke, Ritchie Valens, and the Bobby
Fuller Four.  In addition, Keane=92s famous "open door" policy at DEL-FI  he=
lped
fuel the SoCal surf music boom in the early-=9260s, and helped inaugurate th=
e
careers of such future notables as Frank Zappa [who also has an entry in
the book], David Gates (Bread), Leon Russell, Arthur Lee (Love), Glen=20
Campbell,
the Versatiles (The 5th Dimension) and Barry White."

A reception and book signing for The Encyclopedia of Record Producers will b=
e
held August 25th at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland. Several=20
record
producers featured in the book, and numerous music writers -- including=20
editors
Olsen, Verna and Wolff -- will be on hand to sign copies of the book ($24.95=20
list,
608 words/softcover).

****************************************************************************=
**
********

Bob Keane is also featured prominently this month in Cosmik Debris, an
online webzine that focuses on all genres of music and always offers a wide
variety of interesting interviews, CD reviews and music columns.

Interviewed recently by Cosmik Debris founder DJ Johnson, Keane discusses
a  whole array of topics, including his background as a big band/swing=20
bandleader
in the 50's, dating Lana Turner (!), releasing Sam Cooke's first pop hit "Yo=
u=20
Send
Me," his production of Ritchie Valens and numerous obscure Del-Fi artists=20
(including
Eden Ahbez, Larry Bright, others), and the theory that it was Keane himself=20
who
killed Bobby Fuller (!!!). There are also quite a few photos accompanying th=
e=20
piece.

The direct link to the incredibly fascinating Bob Keane interview (one of th=
e=20
most
in-depth ever) is www.cosmik.com/aa-july99/bob_keane.html (it's also the fir=
st
of two parts --- next month's issue of Cosmik Debris will again feature a=20
second
interview with Keane and will focus on the recent re-animation of Del-Fi and
their new imprint --DF2K -- and it's roster of new acts).

For more information, contact Bryan Thomas, Director of Publicity at Del-Fi,
[e-mail], or for more information regarding the Encyclopedia of Reco=
rd
Producers, contact Carlo Wolff at [phone] during business hours
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From: Paul Dean <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) I, Lurker . . .
Date: 15 Jul 1999 22:33:22 -0500


I have been lurking for several years on a few different music-related lists, but this is the only list
subscribe to now, simply because . . . It's the best!!!

You are so entertaining and informative and nice.  And of course Exotica IS fantastic music and can only
help the world!

I have posted only a couple of times. My name is Paul, ePaul, and I am a college professor in Baton Rouge
LA.   I teach graphic design in the art department.    I love art and graphic design and most of all
MUSIC.

I do a LOT of thrift shopping, and buy more records than I generally can listen to.  Just today I bought a
bunch of things, including an empty cover of these LPs:


The Eddy Duchin Story Soundtrack (no sleeve)

Maryland Club's Golden Moments with Martin Denny

Bongos from the South, (Edmundos Ros and his Orchestra)

Bossa Nova by Puente

and

The Best of Eddie Cano, His Piano and his Rhythm


and after setting up a turntable by my computer (why didn't I ever do this before?!) and checkin'  'em
out, I would have to say the The Best of Eddie Cano is the surprise HIT OF THE DAY!   (I say surprise only
because I didn't recall his name and only bought it for the cover).    I have more or less listed the
records in REVERSE order of what I perceive intuitly to be their "value".  (In other words, the Eddie
Duchin Story Soundtrack sucks!!!  I guess I expected "jazz" of some sort, but jazz it ain't!)

My favorite exotica record of all time is a 45,  Walter Wanderley's  Sad Samba / Jet Samba.   Every time I
play it I am wonderfully lost in it, and sometimes I play it over and over!   Which makes me wonder, are
there any other awesome, must have, exotica 45s ???

Viva Exotica!!!!!



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Thievery  Corporation  ?
Date: 16 Jul 1999 00:48:56 EDT


Has anyone heard their cd "DJ Kicks" ? It starts off with a Les Baxter remix.
I'm wondering what the rest is like and if it is worth having. Thanks, Bob


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) April March
Date: 16 Jul 1999 00:46:54 EDT


I briefly had April March's "Chrominance Decoder" and I thought that the
arrangements were just too busy and she lacked the naive charm of her
inspirations. She tries hard, though.  Bob


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From: [e-mail] (kevin leeeeee)
Subject: (exotica) public enemy vs. animated egg???
Date: 16 Jul 1999 00:32:00 -0700 (PDT)


ok,
thought i'd share this with y'all.  was listening to kcrw in la (i'm stuck
in a room that can't pick up a whole lot) and what do i hear but a new
public enemy tune with the distinctive rapping of chuck d and flavor flav
over the even more distinctive animated egg track (or maybe it's the 101
strings treatment) --- actually i forget the title of the track, but it's
the first one on the astro sounds album.

pretty... weird choice to rap to, i'd say.  but hey, they show good taste!!

kevin leeeeee
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From: [e-mail] (kevin leeeeee)
Subject: (exotica) scott walker
Date: 16 Jul 1999 00:32:08 -0700 (PDT)


heard some scott walker recently and am intrigued.

can anyone give some insight on this 60's vocalist - precursor to divine comedy.

i think his voice sort of sounds like mike flowers.

kevin leeeeee




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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) April March + Tricatel
Date: 16 Jul 1999 12:34:45 +0100 (BST)


At 20:08 15/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>I don't recall this woman being discussed here, but I heard 5 or so
>songs by her recently.  She's from the U.S. but sings songs that sound
>like French pop of the 1960s.  I liked what I heard and was surprised to
>learn that she has 6-7 CDs out, and I was completely unaware of her
>before.

Well, I have 3 CDs by her. One is an EP from another LP that is basically
all covers of French Ya-Ya songs. I think it has its charm, but her voice is
perhaps a bit squeaky. Where she REALLY shines is on the "Chrominance
Decoder" CD, which was given a thumbs down. However, I bought this in the
States, and I know 3 other people who went out and bought it after I played
it. It is THAT good.

It is available in the States on Ideal records, but it was recorded for
Tricatel, probably France's and maybe the world's best new pop label in
Paris. The producer is Bertrand Burgelat, who has an unbelievably full
production soun (perhaps "busy" as Bob refers to it). There is electronic
trickery as well as just clean, full production. I think when she sings in
French, she sounds less squeaky - her Yank twang does irritate. (and yeah,
I'm American so I can say that without being "culturist" or whatever...)But
this is one of my favourite LPs this year, and Tricatel is certainly my
favourite label of the moment. There is an excellent Tricatel compilation
called "Au Couer de Tricatel" that you should get if you like well-produced,
modern pop. Burgalat has got to be one of the best producers on the go. He
did wonders for April!

I bought her earlier stuff on the basis of my love for this LP, but I don't
think it is quite in the same league, although enjoyable. I have friends
that saw her play live in LA and said she was DIABOLICAL. And based on that
performance, one of my friends won't even LISTEN to her new LP!

Hope that helps...

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Subject: (exotica) Hello Everyone
Date: 16 Jul 1999 12:34:04 +0100


I'm New to the list, and feel the need to greet everyone
Peace and Groovyness
Yeh
I hope to hear from you in the near future

P.S.

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Lesbos,
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I also dig De Wolfe Label Library Stuff

Is this the right place to be

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Subject: (exotica) Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 07:36:00 EDT


Does anybody know if Denny's "Quiet Village" was released on 78?

I have looked for years but have never seen it.

Thanks,

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 13:40:20 +0200


Did they make em that late?
Maybe in India? They made Beatles 78s in India.=20

Magnus

>Does anybody know if Denny's "Quiet Village" was released on 78?



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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Hello Everyone
Date: 16 Jul 1999 13:36:32 +0200


>My bag is groovy type exotica from the mid 60's-Mid 70's like Vampyros
>Lesbos,
>Cordara Orchestra, Mirageman, and lots of the Italian easy stuff from then.

oh hehe... an Irma records fan... :)))))

bye,
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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 12:47:24 +0100


        I've got a Nat King Cole from 1968, and a really weird LP of
North american sonnets, played on Hammond from 1969, both on 78, so they did
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Hello Everyone
Date: 16 Jul 1999 12:58:40 +0100


        MMM IRMA its name is like a bottle of fine valpolicella,

        There is a bit more which I like......... But Irma are a
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Subject: (exotica) Scott Walker
Date: 16 Jul 1999 10:16:41 -0400 (EDT)


Oh, lordamercy, don't get me started on Scott
Walker...OK, DO!  He has been described as "Tony
Bennett on acid" or "Frank Sinatra and Bob Dylan's
love child."  In the 1960s, he masterfully combined
pscychedelia and lush orchestration via Wally
Stott(thanks, Brian P.!), with a tremendous
crooner-tone, a la' Jack Jones or(and this is
controversial, even for me to believe it,but I do!)
Andy...uh...Williams.  His own sense of lyricism is
surreal and majestic, like singing along to a Bergman
film.  He also is a brilliant interpreter of the great
French singer and songwriter Jacques Brel.  Razor and
Tie put out the definitive IT'S RAINING TODAY
comp...and all Scott's stuff has been reissued on CD,
though on import only, I think.  The best stuff is his
first four albums and 'TIL THE BAND COMES IN.
I also like the Walker Brothers, whose hit THE SUN
AIN'T GONNA SHINE ANYMORE...you might have heard.  A
best-of anthology will suit ya'.

And, as stated here a few weeks ago, if you can find
JACK JONES SINGS MICHEL LEGRAND...then it is a missing
Scott rekkid..oh, that and WILLIAM SHATNER!
Jane Fondle...exhausted!

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Date: 16 Jul 1999 11:20:23 EDT


Must agree that Scott Walker is one of the most brillant composers/performers
ever to set music to tape.  Some people go nuts for his later stuff (which
isn't really my bag) -- more like early 80's Bowie, kindof...supposedly his
late 70's early 80's stuff inspired Bowie, Eno, and that gang.

Must agree with Jane that the first 5 LPs are the best.

I saw Jack Jones recently and he was amazing!  His singing (in concert
anyway) is better than ever.  I was totally surprised at what a kick ass show
it was.  Check him out if you get the chance.

And watch out for Jack's "Without Her" album.  You can probably find it for
$2 or less.  Immediatly play the second song on the second side -- and you
might think you had accidentally put on a Scott Walker LP!!!!

Just recently picked up the import two-fer CD of Scott's early to mid 70's
cover songs LPs "Stretch" and "We Had It All".  Skip em unless you are
hardcore.  The only really fantastic tune is Scott's version of Jimmy Webb's
"Where Does Brown Begin."

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From: Michael Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popularaire)
Date: 16 Jul 1999 11:15:40 -0500



>By the way, what is on the cover of the original issue of "Peter Gunn"?  I
>have two copies, both with different covers and I find it hard to believe
>that either one was the original.

>The other cover is sort of turquoise
>blue and has no picture, just a couple of pink lines that sort of resemble
>lightning.  That one sort of looks like the cover on my copy of "More music
>from Peter Gunn".

I always thought those looked like dendrites or something neural from
biology class. As far as I know, that's the authoritative cover.

>One cover has a bunch of lopsided
>rectangles, mostly yellow or orange.

I just found a copy of this a couple of months ago. I've seen *SEVERAL*
DOZEN of the lightning dendrite cover in my time, but this was the first
copy of Gunn like this I'd seen. I ended up grabbing it as it was only
$1.50. The crazy thing is, this *very same* geometric cover art also
exists as an alternate cover for the Three Suns' _Love In the Afternoon_
(the green "picnic" cover is the common one). A store up in Cleveland has
a copy, but their stuff is way overpriced in general: all unmarked LPs
are at least $10.50. It was a cool curiosity item, but not
eleven-something (with tax) worth of cool. (If ANYONE has this, I'd
*love* a scan for my Three Suns site)

My geometric Gunn is mono, but the geometric LitA was stereo, and the
Living Stereo logo had the same weird magenta/orange color scheme as the
rest of the cover.

I'm intrigued by alternate cover art, and I often wonder why it exists.
In some cases, I can understand that they were changing from something
less controversial (Arthur Lyman's shrunken head & volcano Taboo 2
covers, Morton Gould's Jungle Drums with the topless female behind the
tree vs. the drums in the jungle, etc.). In some cases, like the Three
Suns' _Midnight For Two_, I think the rarer cover with the romantic
couple under the clock is much classier than the common
couple-riding-on-a-broom cover. (And the fact that I've seen BOTH covers
also as 7-inch EP sleeves doesn't give any clue as to which might have
come first.)

In both cases (Peter Gunn & Love In the Afternoon), the back cover art is
identical to their more common counterparts. There's nothing to suggest
they're foreign pressings or anything either.

FYI: the Three Suns LPs I'm aware of with totally different cover
variations:

The Sound(s) of Christmas (two on RCA Victor, with a third for its Camden
reissue)
Easy Listening (two; early 50s and updated late 50s photo of lounging
couple)
Midnight For Two (two; aforementioned)
Love in the Afternoon (two; aforementioned)

Does anyone know of any others? I also need a scan of the painted cover
art for the Christmas LP, if you can help out.

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima
Date: 16 Jul 1999 11:37:30 -0400


>One cover has a bunch of lopsided
>rectangles, mostly yellow or orange.

>I just found a copy of this a couple of months ago. I've seen *SEVERAL*
>DOZEN of the lightning dendrite cover in my time, but this was the first
>copy of Gunn like this I'd seen. I ended up grabbing it as it was only
>$1.50. The crazy thing is, this *very same* geometric cover art also
>exists as an alternate cover for the Three Suns' _Love In the Afternoon_

...and the same cover exists for "In a Mellotone" by Duke Ellington (Happy
100th!).  I think that RCA reissued a whole slew of LP's with this standard
cover.  I also have a Charles Mingus album "Jazz Experiment" on Jazztone
with several instruments and Picasso's "Three Musicians" in the background,
a design I saw on other albums on the same label.

Although I like the art in both cases, I don't like the practice.  It could
lead to confusion, thus cheating the artist and it seems to serve the
purposes of denoting which label the record is on ("A great label with one
great cover!"), as well as saving a lot of time in the reissue department.
I do, however, like the old Impuse! records, with the distinctive black and
orange spines, easy to spot when stacked spine outward; the same goes for
CBS' lines on the spine.

Perhaps I have this bias due to my days of stocking Windham Hill and the
dreaded Narada album covers.  It seemed to be a New Age conceit.

One man, many covers,
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 16:32:40 +0100


Tiki Bob asked
>Does anybody know if Denny's "Quiet Village" was released on 78?

It certainly was in England.  Denny's 1959/60 single releases were

London American
HLU8860 Quiet Village/Llama serenade
HLU8976 The enchanted sea/Martinique

both were also released as 45's (45HLU8860 and 45HLU8976).

Les Baxter's last UK 78 release was a year or so earlier:
Capitol CL14840 Farewell to arms theme/Bonjour tristesse dance.

I believe the last UK Hit which was available on both 78 and 45 was
Johnny & the Hurricanes' 'Reveille Rock'...  Anyone know what the
last US equivalent was please?

I'm reliably informed that in India, 78's lasted into the Beatle era.....


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) April March
Date: 16 Jul 1999 11:42:52 -0400 (EDT)



I'm very familiar with four of her albums. Paris In April is wonderful!  Songs sung in
french by A March are fabulous.  Her english songs remind me of great pop songs of
1965, I really like her voice for these songs, its quirky and raw for me.  Chick Habit
is generally a shorter version of Paris in April.

April March and Los Cincos is her second to last album and came out in December if I
remember correctly.   This is indie pop,  in an underproduced modern vein ala records
on the Elephant lable.   I like this album allot but it is very much modern soft indie
pop.

Chrominance Decoder came out in January I believe, and it is my second favorite album
of this year.  ( Azure by Louis Phillipe is my favorite, a modern day Pet Sounds)
Bertrand Bergalat, who I believe may be associated with Louis Phillipe, did an amazing
job producing these songs.  As Jill Mingo pointed out there is some electronic trickery
going on in the bacground of these songs but it does not interfere with the magnificant
song writing and Aprils voice is right up front.  This is a beautiful, haunting album
and is quite different from Chick Habit.   Slow melodic tunes weave beautiful pictures
on Chominance vs 60's pop now sound  go go on Paris In April.

I did post on Chrominance and Los Cincos when they first were released but it is hard
reading and remembering all the posts.   There also was a review of April March at
Vic's Lounge, http://www.chaoskitty.com

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


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> I don't recall this woman being discussed here, but I heard 5 or so
> songs by her recently.  She's from the U.S. but sings songs that sound
> like French pop of the 1960s.  I liked what I heard and was surprised to
> learn that she has 6-7 CDs out, and I was completely unaware of her
> before.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Walker
Date: 16 Jul 1999 16:42:32 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> I saw Jack Jones recently and he was amazing!  His singing (in concert
> anyway) is better than ever.  I was totally surprised at what a kick
> ass show it was.  Check him out if you get the chance.

I was recently played his version of "Windmills of Your Mind" from an
old album of him singing Michel Legrand songs which rocked suprisingly
much.


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Subject: (exotica) tiki thing on ebay
Date: 16 Jul 1999 11:46:05 -0400


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Subject: RE: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popula
Date: 16 Jul 1999 16:38:49 +0100


        The copy which I have is a stylised action  drawing of the
star of the film (Craig Thomas????) in adynamic pose firing his Gun, with a
bevvy of beauties, and a flash car.

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From: [e-mail] (Tosh)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Walker
Date: 16 Jul 1999 08:45:39 -0700 (PDT)


Scott's last album 'Tilt' is a fantastic piece of work.  Although I imagine
fans of his sixties stuff would cringe to this album - I think it is a
major piece of work.

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Subject: (exotica) Gentle People "Faboo"
Date: 16 Jul 1999 12:06:11 -0400 (EDT)




The Gentle People have finally released their second full length album  "Faboo".  I
believe it is a Japanese only release  for the time being.  They may be following the
Ventures marketing strategy

This is really a fun listen.  Lots of new Gentle People songs that have the Gentle
People sound.

My first impression of Faboo was that the Gentle People are trying lots of new things.
 Its more produced.   Some songs have more beats and more of an electronica feel on
them. There is also ONE song that is straight 1978 disco. If you like disco this is
really a good disco song.    The songs do not ooze in dreamland as well as the Journey
song off of their first album but they are many well written fun gentle peoplesque
songs on this album.   There certainly is the gentle stamp of the Gentle People at work
here.

This cd is in a great package & it is available at good ole other music.
http://www.othermusic.com

Vic had a review of the Gentle People's first album at the Vic's Lounge site
http://www.chaoskitty.com

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii
Date: 16 Jul 1999 12:05:40 EDT


hey guys i picked up a pretty sweet hawaiian ashtray the other day at a
garage sale, i didnt have any change so the lady just gave it to me, theres a
little carving on the side that says: "Made with Lava, #240, Coco Joe Hawaii"
my friend tells me that coco joe reproductions are a common item to pick up
in hawaii, but he also says its cool that i have one thats not a fake, anyone
know anything about this Coco Joe guy?

Bob, im sure you could tell me a thing or two.

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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 18:14:36 +0200


Hugh Petfield wrote:

> I'm reliably informed that in India, 78's lasted into the Beatle era.....

Correct, British magazine Record Collector reported this a couple of years ago.

I also remember reading that 78s are still produced today in very limited
quantities by collectors of vintage rock 'n' roll and rockabilly. So in a way,
the 78 is still a current format.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii
Date: 16 Jul 1999 18:24:56 +0200




[e-mail] wrote:

> sweet hawaiian ashtray

> "Made with Lava, #240, Coco Joe Hawaii"
> not a fake

Are you sure it's made of Lava? Or with Lava? Al I ever found were plasti=
c.

You say it is sweet... maybe it's made from black caramel sugar?

Mo

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Date: 16 Jul 1999 13:02:53 -0500


>        The copy which I have is a stylised action  drawing of the
>star of the film (Craig Thomas????) in a dynamic pose firing his Gun, with a
>bevvy of beauties, and a flash car.
>
>        This is the original UK Release apparently

Was this the 1960s *movie* soundtrack or the 1950s TV show soundtrack?
This sure sounds more like the film soundtrack.

(I think the movie was called "Gunn No. 1" -- I've never seen it, but it
was apparently part of the whole Bond/Flint/Helm spy cash-in craze; I
know the movie is where "Bye Bye," the lyric-added version of the Gunn
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Date: 16 Jul 1999 13:51:39 -0400




P.S.

My bag is groovy type exotica from the mid 60's-Mid 70's like Vampyros
Lesbos,Cordara Orchestra, Mirageman, and lots of the Italian easy stuff
from then.
I also dig De Wolfe Label Library Stuff
Is this the right place to be
Cheers
AR

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Date: 16 Jul 1999 18:24:56 +0200




[e-mail] wrote:

> sweet hawaiian ashtray

> "Made with Lava, #240, Coco Joe Hawaii"
> not a fake

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Subject: (exotica) Since I don't have Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou, Lou
Date: 16 Jul 1999 13:59:40 -0400


Well, this isn't an obit, and it scarcely is exotica-related...but I
couldn't resist:

''Those weren't trained pigs, they just didn't jump in there.
 They were screaming and making all sorts of noise.''  -George Good, Tucson

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Subject: (exotica) Oh, spare me!
Date: 16 Jul 1999 14:08:39 -0400 (EDT)



LOS ANGELES (AP) Sting is recording a new version of
the Oscar-winning song
 ''The Windmills of Your Mind,'' the theme of ''The
Thomas Crown Affair,'' for Pierce Brosnan's remake of
the movie.

''Sting is an amazing artist and a great friend. His
daring musical career and personal fearlessness in
life
 echo some of the themes of this film,'' Brosnan said
Wednesday in a statement.

Brosnan plays a billionaire who steals a Monet
painting, then falls in love with the investigator,
played by
Rene Russo, who is trying to solve the crime.

It's a remake of the Steve McQueen and Faye Dunaway
movie, which got the best song Oscar in 1968
for composer Michel Legrand and lyricists Alan and
Marilyn Bergman.

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From: Will Straw <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Oh, spare me!
Date: 16 Jul 1999 14:24:28 -0400


Sting doing "Windmills of Your Mind."

The horror, the horror.

This is the man who couldn't read a book without having to write
us a song about it.

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Subject: (exotica) Terry Gibbs
Date: 16 Jul 1999 09:28:00 PDT


  DOes anyone know anything about Terry Gibbs? He has an lp called
"Launching a New Sound". Mostly big band stuff but I'm wondering if he's
addded anything new to the songs.

Thanks
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From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!
Date: 16 Jul 1999 14:55:03 -0500


>Sting doing "Windmills of Your Mind."
>
>The horror, the horror.


oof.  i hear ya.

i collect versions of the classic "My One and Only Love" and have
violently resisted ever listening to Sting's rendition (also recorded
for some soundtrack).

  - kini

P.S.  any versions y'all know of that i SHOULD seek out?  lay 'em on me!




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Oh, spare me!
Date: 16 Jul 1999 15:59:52 -0400


>LOS ANGELES (AP) Sting is recording a new version of
>the Oscar-winning song
> ''The Windmills of Your Mind,'' the theme of ''The
>Thomas Crown Affair,'' for Pierce Brosnan's remake of
>the movie.

The "real" movie is on TCM, Sunday afternoon at 4:00pm (eastern).

Also...

The History Channel is rerunning their history of stereo Wednesday night at 10:00pm and 2:00am.


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Date: 16 Jul 1999 16:00:18 -0400






oof.  i hear ya.
i collect versions of the classic "My One and Only Love" and have
violently resisted ever listening to Sting's rendition (also recorded
for some soundtrack).

  - kini
P.S.  any versions y'all know of that i SHOULD seek out?  lay 'em on me!

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From: Fish Wich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotiquarium album cover art book
Date: 16 Jul 1999 17:35:28 -0400 (EDT)


I received my copy of "Exotiquarium: Album Art from
the Space Age" by Jennifer McKnight-Trontz today.  I
haven't had a chance to read much of the text but at
first glance, the quality of the images is a little
disappointing.  There is a noticeable glare on many
and several of the images are poorly cropped
(especially Ferrante & Teicher's Blast Off!).
Amazingly, one of the most famous space age album
cover images, Les Baxter's Space Escapades, is nowhere
to be found!

It seems like a decent effort but I don't know if it
lives up to the name "Exotiquarium."  Has anyone else
picked up a copy of the book?  What do you think?

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii
Date: 16 Jul 1999 18:20:23 EDT


I don't know the official history but here's what I know from experience

there were other manufacturers of these "fake" lava products

originally they were cast in pewter and painted black to resemble real lava
carvings but now are cast is resin that presumably has real lava rock for
coloring

At one time HIP Originals was at least as large of a producer of these
tourist chotckes as Joe but somehow joe ended up cornering the market

Coco Joe's (originally unnumbered) completely owned the market by the late
70s and could be found in every single ABC store (similar to 7-11 or Circle
K) which were found on every single corner (I am not joking) in Waikiki
during the 70s & 80s and 90s. They also produced a Hapa Wood version
apparently during the late 60s/70s and some of those designs continue today

about three years ago they inexplicably went out of business. the name and
most popular molds were bought by a chinese company and they resurfaced about
a year ago

As for the value of these things it is very subjective
No doubt thousands, possibly millions were made of any given design, but no
doubt some designs were discontinued after an initial run

therefore the common ones are worth about $1.00
while the less common ones (don't ask me which ones they are) could be worth
$20

The larger versions (12-18 inches tall) of the Tikis and other statues of
course are worth more as they originally sold for about $22.00 in 1980 and of
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Subject: (exotica) Obits I noticed: Whoopee and Soft Lights
Date: 16 Jul 1999 19:56:01 -0400


Charles `Pete' Conrad, at 69

Was fun-loving space explorer

By Marcia Dunn, Associated Press, 07/10/99

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Apollo 12 astronaut Charles ''Pete''
    Conrad, the third man to walk on the moon and the only one to shout
''Whoopee!'' as he hopped onto its dusty surface, was killed Thursday in a
motorcycle accident, leaving life the way he lived it: traveling fast. He was
69.

Mr. Conrad crashed his 1996 Harley-Davidson on a curve along a winding
mountain road near Ojai in Southern California and died at a hospital of
internal bleeding from chest and abdominal injuries.

Besides Apollo 12 in November 1969, Mr. Conrad flew two Gemini
missions in the mid-1960s and commanded NASA's first space station,
Skylab, in 1973. He later worked as an aerospace executive and formed a
company aimed at making space flight as common as a jet ride.

Six weeks ago, in an interview in advance of this month's 30th anniversary of
the first manned moon landing, by Apollo 11, Mr. Conrad said he could not
be happier and was looking forward to old age.

''Time flies when you're having fun, and I've been having fun for the last 30
years. I've been having fun for a lot longer than that,'' said Mr. Conrad, who
lived in Huntington Beach, Calif.

Apollo 11's Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon, called Mr.
Conrad a ''tireless pioneer ... enamored with `pushing the envelope.'''

''I didn't know anyone that was filled with more irrepressible enthusiasm and
sense of humor and new ideas and general joy of life than Pete,'' said Sen.
John Glenn. ''He'll be missed very much.''

Mr. Conrad always spoke his mind. To prove that NASA bureaucrats were
not telling astronauts what to say when they stepped onto the moon, he bet
an Italian journalist $500 that he would declare: ''That may have been a small
one for Neil, but that's a hell of a step for me.''

Once he reached the moon, Mr. Conrad cleaned up his language, but the
essence remained.

''Whoopee!'' he shouted as he descended the ladder of his lunar lander on
Nov. 19, 1969. ''Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but that's a
long one for me.''

Born in Philadelphia, Mr. Conrad received a bachelor's degree in
aeronautical engineering from Princeton University in 1953. He then joined
the Navy and became a naval aviator. He attended the Navy Test Pilot
School at Patuxent River, Md., and later served there as a test pilot, flight
instructor, and performance engineer.

NASA picked him for its second group of astronauts in 1962, three years
after the seven original Mercury astronauts were selected. Mr. Conrad
served as pilot of Gemini 5 in 1965, flying with Gordon Cooper. He went on
to command Gemini 11 in 1966. His crewmate was Dick Gordon.

As commander of Apollo 12, Mr. Conrad flew to the moon with Alan Bean
and Dick Gordon. Mr. Conrad and Bean spent nearly eight hours exploring
the lunar surface and 311/2 hours on the surface altogether, as Gordon
circled the moon in the command module.

Mr. Conrad retired from NASA and the Navy in 1973. But his passion for
space exploration never diminished.

Helen Forrest, at 82

Big-band vocalist known for wartime hits

By Reuters, 07/13/99

    LOS ANGELES - Vocalist Helen Forrest, who sang for such
heavyweights as Artie Shaw, Benny Goodman, and Harry James
during the big-band era of the 1930s and '40s, died Sunday of congestive
heart failure. She was 82.

Among her best-known songs were such wartime hits with the James band
as ''I've Heard That Song Before''; her signature song, ''I Had the Craziest
Dream''; and ''I Don't Want to Walk Without You,'' which became an
anthem for women left alone during World War II.

She recorded more than 500 songs during a career that stretched into the
1980s. Along the way, she shared the bandstand with jazz legend Billie
Holiday, crossed the color line to record ''Ghost of a Chance'' with Lionel
Hampton and the Nat ''King'' Cole Trio, and teamed with baritone Dick
Haymes for a series of hits and a long-running radio show.

Especially good with a ballad, Ms. Forrest was known for her warm,
melodic style and nuanced interpretation of lyrics. Describing her style, she
once told Look magazine, ''I try to sing so a guy can picture soft lights and
his girl.''

Ms. Forrest also appeared in several movies with James, with whom she
was having a secret romance. But their affair ended after James met and fell
in love with film star Betty Grable while all three were making the 1942
picture ''Springtime in the Rockies.'' James and Grable ultimately married,
and Ms. Forrest left the James band to pursue a solo career.

Ms. Forrest's big break came when clarinetist-bandleader Shaw heard her
perform and offered her a job. In 1938 she joined his band as a co-vocalist
with Holiday, and she remained with Shaw when Holiday quit to start a solo
career.

After Shaw broke up his band in 1939, Ms. Forrest segued onto the
bandstand of another clarinetist-leader, Benny Goodman.

In 1941, Ms. Forrest joined James's orchestra, where she flourished as an
artist and recorded her biggest hits, in part because her singing style
blended
well with James's lush approach to ballads. The trumpeter built arrangements
around Ms. Forrest and featured her as a star.

At the peak of her career, Ms. Forrest was considered the finest white
vocalist of her day. Ultimately, however, Frank Sinatra surged to fame with
Tommy Dorsey's orchestra.

After the big-band era, Ms. Forrest performed in supper clubs, on radio,
and in the studio. A last album was released in 1983 by Stash Records.


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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 17:44:20 +0000


At 01:40 PM 16-07-99 +0200, Magnus wrote:
>Did they make em [78s] that late?

By then 45s had become more popular than 78s for singles...but, yet, some
of the established record companies were still putting out limited 78s for
those who hadn't yet converted.  There were still plenty of 78 only juke
boxes around, for instance.  As a consequence, many 78s from this era may
be out there, although VERY rare and often quite valuable.

The real question is...did Liberty get into the biz when 78s were big
enough to invest in the process?  I bet it didn't, but I could be wrong.

They might have come in with the idea that they'd be a 45 and LP only
company, just as several years ago labels would start as only CD labels
even though records were still pretty big.

Byron

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Walker
Date: 16 Jul 1999 21:18:39 -0400


At 10:16 AM 7/16/99 -0400, Jane Fondle wrote:

  In the 1960s, he masterfully combined
>pscychedelia and lush orchestration via Wally
>Stott(thanks, Brian P.!), with a tremendous
>crooner-tone, a la' Jack Jones or(and this is
>controversial, even for me to believe it,but I do!)
>Andy...uh...Williams.

I don't think that's controversial.  I'm not going to say that Jack and
Andy are interchangeable but they both have beautiful large voices, like
Scott Walker.  Jack's voice may get the edge in resemblance but Andy comes
close enough to mention.
For some reason, Jack comes off as somewhat "hipper" than Andy, despite who
Andy was married to and the fact that he covered SO MANY unlikely sixties
and seventies hits.  Maybe it's because Andy covered so much sixties
material that he almost seemed to be pandering or maybe it's just that Jack
looks so much cooler than Andy.
Anyway, back to Scott Walker.  The other day we were listening to Scott
doing "It's Raining Today" and there's this part where a "loudish" string
section just hangs in the air behind the melody.  It's part of what you
might call Scott's "overt arrangements" and I said to my friend that if it
weren't for that wall of strings, which is the kind of thing you'd never
hear on a crooner record, it might just be Jack Jones we were listening to.
 And my friend Scott, the huge Scott fan, said "That's what I like about
this.  If Jack Jones did this, I'd like him a lot more".  (He loves Jack,
just not the way he loves Scott.)

Anyway, most of the time that you hear some "rock guy" described in
relation to crooners, such as "He's the Frank Sinatra of punk" or whatever,
it would be a metaphor but not in this case.
Scott Walker is a crooner who writes and arranges his own tunes.  And boy
does he arrange.

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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 21:18:21 EDT


In a message dated 7/16/99 4:44:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Did they make em that late?
 Maybe in India? They made Beatles 78s in India.

 Magnus >>

lots of Les Baxter's stuff from the early, mid and late 50's is on 78's.

is my grammer ok?  just checking.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Coco Joe Hawaii
Date: 16 Jul 1999 21:54:26 EDT


In a message dated 7/16/99 9:14:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< "Made with Lava, #240, Coco Joe Hawaii"
 my friend tells me that coco joe reproductions are a common item to pick up
 in hawaii, but he also says its cool that i have one thats not a fake,
anyone
 know anything about this Coco Joe guy?

 Bob, im sure you could tell me a thing or two.

 laters
 the caucasian >>


this is a very, very common tourist item company.  they market a lot of their
stuff as being made of "lava" or "Hawaiian composite" or monkey pod but it is
mostly plastic.

now don't get me wrong.  i have some coco stuff and it is great tiki stuff.
one of the first things i gave my son (now 2) was a coco tiki idol.  he has
beat the hell out of the little black "lava" tiki and it has stood the test
of time.

a couple of the web sites that sell tiki related stuff have some of their
items.

and a final comment, any thing tiki is worth having.  if you are like me, i
look at the tackyist shit i have and i am still grateful i have it.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!
Date: 16 Jul 1999 21:21:42 -0500



>i collect versions of the classic "My One and Only Love" ...
>
>P.S.  any versions y'all know of that i SHOULD seek out?  lay 'em on me!

Johnny Hartman and John Coltrane....but you probably already got it. Then
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Subject: (exotica) A Coco Story
Date: 16 Jul 1999 22:16:52 EDT


In a message dated 7/16/99 3:23:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< The larger versions (12-18 inches tall) of the Tikis and other statues of
 course are worth more as they originally sold for about $22.00 in 1980 and
of
 course are rarer >>

I have found these for next to nothing at thrifts, fleas, etc.

Some are really stupid looking (and therefore are the ones I like the most).

I am looking at one now that is 14 inches, 2/3 of which is the tiki's
headdress, and there was an obvious attempt to make the back look like it was
carved out of stone.  As Otto says, it is made of resin (which is a generous
word for plastic).

I found this fellow at a church thrift store in Columbia, South Carolina  --
which was the first stop on a thrift/antiqueing trip I took with my brother.

There was a $ 1.00 price tag on it and I offered the guy at the checkout 50
cents.  My brother looked at the clerk and said,  "Can you believe this guy?
He's trying to cheat Jesus out of 50 cents."  I looked at my brother, whom
the clerk did not realize we were related, and said,  "I don't think Jesus
needs the money."  The clerk was pissed but took my buck anyway.

And so for a dollar I have this tacky tiki idol, made of plastic (or genuine
fake lava) and this little story that I related to you.

The Caucasian Sensation got his for free.  At least Jesus is not pissed of at
him.

Then again, what about a church thrift store that is selling tiki idols?
They might as well have a goat made of gold.

Tiki Bob


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Subject: (exotica) Call for Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 22:15:46 EDT


In a message dated 7/16/99 5:41:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< At 01:40 PM 16-07-99 +0200, Magnus wrote:
 >Did they make em [78s] that late?

 By then 45s had become more popular than 78s for singles...but, yet, some
 of the established record companies were still putting out limited 78s for
 those who hadn't yet converted.  There were still plenty of 78 only juke
 boxes around, for instance.  As a consequence, many 78s from this era may
 be out there, although VERY rare and often quite valuable. >>

Well, I appreciate all the kind post regarding my topic.

So now the cattle call.

If anyone has a Quiet Village on 78 that they want to sell me please let me
know.  I suspect some of your English posters/lurkers will be the most likely
persons to find this.

Thanks,

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From: Brett Leveridge <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!
Date: 16 Jul 1999 22:17:36 -0400 (EDT)



> >i collect versions of the classic "My One and Only Love" ...
> >
> >P.S.  any versions y'all know of that i SHOULD seek out?  lay 'em on me!


If you like her style (and I do), Rickie Lee Jones does a nice version of
it on her album Pop Pop.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Cassettes to CD's
Date: 16 Jul 1999 22:19:13 EDT


Michele axed me to forward this:

Could you ask on the list if anyone is aware of anyone who will transfer
music from either vinyl or cassette tape to CD?  I don't know if it is
illegal or not to do that.  I know in terms of videos I wanted to have
something copied and the store wanted to know that it wasn't a commercial
tape!  but in terms of music, I would really like to get 3 things put on CDs
- 2 1920s tapes that I think are outstanding and that one punk record -
"Streets".  None of these items probably have a snowball's chance in hell of
getting commercially released onto CD.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Quiet 78
Date: 16 Jul 1999 11:32:16 -0400


Tiki Bob
[e-mail] said to the Exotica list...
On the subject: Quiet 78

> Does anybody know if Denny's "Quiet Village" was released on 78?
> I have looked for years but have never seen it.

Yes it does, and I have it.  It was released in Canada on London/Liberty
Li.55162 and has Llama Serenade on the other side.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) combustible edison
Date: 17 Jul 1999 00:29:03 EDT


hey gang,

is com-ed playing somewhere this weekend.  i thought i saw where they were
going to be in new york.

thanks,

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From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!
Date: 16 Jul 1999 21:53:30 -0700


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Brett Leveridge
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 7:18 PM

> > >i collect versions of the classic "My One and Only Love" ...
> > >
> > >P.S.  any versions y'all know of that i SHOULD seek out?  lay
> 'em on me!

> If you like her style (and I do), Rickie Lee Jones does a nice version of
> it on her album Pop Pop.

Hey, I was about to write that too.

Even if you find him a talentless and limp trumpet player (I don't), Chet
Baker has a version on the "Let's Get Lost" soundtrack that's damn near
close to heartbreaking. He plays for about 2-3 minutes, and just as you
begin to think that it's a non-vocal track, his voice suddenly comes in. His
voice, already whispery (and pallid to some) to begin with, is made even
more frail and quavering by age and his addictions. A splendid version.

Later,
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From: [e-mail] (kevin leeeeee)
Subject: (exotica) back to soft pop
Date: 17 Jul 1999 00:08:28 -0700 (PDT)


i'm so behind...

a while back some o you folks were toying with the idea of compiling soft
pop tracks.  did anything come of that?  i'd be willing to float some bucks
to get a copy on cd-r.

did anyone mention brooklyn bridge?  or spanky and our gang?  association?
rotary connection?  bread?

and why are japanese so hip to this american stuff but we can't seem to
reissue this stuff ourselves?  seems like a lot of the stuff should be in
the 9.99 cd bin.

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) I, Lurker . . .
Date: 17 Jul 1999 14:21:36 +0200


 >Which makes me wonder, are
>there any other awesome, must have, exotica 45s ???

Today I would choose:
Chainos "Pygmie song" b-side "Ubangi Rock" (or the other way around.)

In high pitched voices:
"Say brother pygmie, do you dig this new rock n roll?
 NAH! I'm gonna rock it out of town!
Chickie chickie boom boom Chickie chickie boom boom"

Not exact quoted, but it starts something like that. Funny one!

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Terry Gibbs
Date: 17 Jul 1999 15:09:58 -0400


At 09:28 AM 7/16/99 PDT, Albert Fish wrote:
>
>  DOes anyone know anything about Terry Gibbs? He has an lp called
>"Launching a New Sound". Mostly big band stuff but I'm wondering if he's
>addded anything new to the songs.

Gibbs is a very good vibes player.  Judging by the records of his that I
own, his material ranges from straight-ahead jazz to more mellow easy
listening.
It wouldn't surprise me if he had a new sound or even a "NOW sound" record
or two out there but I haven't seen it.  I love vibes so I have his records
but I don't go out of my way to get them.

Nat



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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) back to soft pop
Date: 17 Jul 1999 15:09:56 -0400


At 12:08 AM 7/17/99 -0700, kevin leeeeee wrote:
>a while back some o you folks were toying with the idea of compiling soft
>pop tracks.  did anything come of that?  i'd be willing to float some bucks
>to get a copy on cd-r.
>
>did anyone mention brooklyn bridge?  or spanky and our gang?  association?
>rotary connection?  bread?

I'm not sure anyone mentioned Spanky.  I love Brooklyn Bridge and other
"Johnny Maestro" things too but I'm not sure he fits my definition of this
stuff.  The Association is pretty well at the center of it.  And the only
reason Bread might be left off a compilation is because it's too familiar.

I'm pretty sure someone made a cassette of these things but I didn't get
one.  (Hint, hint.)

I will be making my CDR of this kind of stuff as well as other CDR's later
in the year and if that happens, I'll let you know.  I'm thinking of
leading it off with Lobo's version of "I'm only sleeping" or I might be
more patriotic and start off with the hard/soft rockin sounds of The Paupers.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!
Date: 17 Jul 1999 15:09:54 -0400


At 02:55 PM 7/16/99 -0500, King Kini wrote:
>
>oof.  i hear ya.
>
>i collect versions of the classic "My One and Only Love" and have
>violently resisted ever listening to Sting's rendition (also recorded
>for some soundtrack).

It's funny you should mention this tune.  I had the unpleasant experience
of hearing Sting "sing" this on TV once.  Maybe on SNL?  I've often thought
about it since, especially when hearing the definitive version - in my
opinion - by Johnny Hartman.
I do despise Sting's music but I would have agreed to ignore him if he
hadn't taken on songs he has no business croaking.  Sadly he now shares
space in my liver (is that where bile is produced?) with Celine Dion and
Steven Spielberg.

BTW, speaking of songs people shouldn't sing, I am sad to say that I found
this Johnny Hartman record from the early seventies where he covers songs
like "By the time I get to Phoenix" and "Betcha by Golly Wow".
It's not that he murders them exactly.  And there are a few moments where
you're reminded how great he is.  But overall the record still makes me sad.
I'll never understand how he managed to languish in the shadows.

Nat



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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) back to soft pop
Date: 17 Jul 1999 16:03:31 EDT



In a message dated 7/17/99 3:08:52 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I'm pretty sure someone made a cassette of these things but I didn't get
>one.  (Hint, hint.)

That would be me. Ah, its just about to be done. One of these days I'm gonna
list the acceptable soft rock I've amassed over the past two or three months
and post it here....Jimmy Botticelli/"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, 88.1 in
Cambridge at MIT on Tuesdays from 6-8a.m. It can be heard in Real Time by
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From: "Arjan Plug" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New releases (Wilp,Dissevelt/Baltan)
Date: 17 Jul 1999 22:10:19 +0200


More from Forced Exposure New Releases list
http://www.forcedexposure.com.


_____________________________________________
ATA TAK (GERMANY):

WILP, CHARLES: Charles Wilp Fotografiert Bunny CD (ATA WR74).
"No other German has embodied the breakaway from the 50s into
modern times so well as Charles Wilp. A Man Ray student, turned
artonaut, Dokumenta 5 artist, photographer, an advertising
conceptualist, conductor and a space age media artist. Whether
spectacularly blowing up his racing car, building an UFO bungalow
on the roof of his D=FCsseldorf home, or overcoming gravity in a NASA
centrifuge simulator, the LP written in the Sun Year 1965, titled
Charles Wilp fotografiert Bunny -- a light and floating melange -- has
at Ata Tak's specific wish, been re-released as a CD. A world first in
psychedelic TV advertising in 1969 -- 'Africola' showing three lightly
clad women dancing behind a water covered screen (Amanda Lear's,
Marsha Hunt's and Donna Summer's first TV appearance) -- Bunny
was never available in the shops, but was produced together for 16
organizations which had contracted Wilp to create their company
designs. Over 500,00 free record copies were distributed to
employees and clients in the same companies. What is surprising
about Bunny-Musik is the elegant stylistic assuredness and relaxed
work out which is really unusual for a German orchestra. Peter
Thomas made some close observations of these recordings, noting
influences from A.C. Jobim, Frank Sinatra and Claus Ogermann.
This possibly had to do with the hottest summer of the century in 1965,
when this piece was composed. More probable is that Charles Wilp
developed a feeling for music and space through his mother, who
accompanied Richard Tauber through the world as a silent film pianist,
as well as through encounters with the so called 'rocket men' he knew,
including Karl Oberth, Paul Nebel, Werner von Braun, Fritz von Opel
and Paul Valier. One thing however is certain - this record is too good
remain unreleased ......... That opinion is shared by Daniel Miller,
The Gentle People, Tipsy, Stereo Total, Thomas Fehlmann, A Certain
Frank, Andreas Dorau, Schlammpeitziger, Stockhausen & Walkman
and many others  who have expressed willingness to make a remix
for Charles Wilp. This will shortly be released under the name
Michaelangelo in Space, a name shared by the space art module to
be designed and built by Wilp as the first Art-in-Space Gallery as
 well the first Space Art Academy. This is to be docked onto the
newly developed international ISS space station - which will of
course include the CD onboard!  The first CD in space!" $15.00

_____________________________________________
PHILIPS (BOOTLEG/EURO):

DISSEVELT/KID BALTAN, TOM: Song Of The Second Moon LP
(PHI 600047). "Reissue of this electronica classic from the 60s.
Excursions into sonic vibrations, for fans of Attileo Mineo." Pretty
nice full color gatefold repro of this very obscure electronics album
by these electonic music innovators (originally released on Limelight).
It's rumored that Jean-Jacques Perrey credits this album as one of
his seminal influences, but this is crazy & sometimes a bit harsh and
avant-extreme compared to anything by Perrey. Limited stock.  $19.00






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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Terry Gibbs
Date: 17 Jul 1999 13:51:47 +0000


>At 09:28 AM 7/16/99 PDT, Albert Fish wrote:
>>
>>  DOes anyone know anything about Terry Gibbs? He has an lp called
>>"Launching a New Sound". Mostly big band stuff but I'm wondering if he's
>>addded anything new to the songs.

Yes, I think I have that LP.  Isn't that the one with the rocket launch on
the cover?

I know some of his big band stuff has been reissued on CD.  Terry Gibbs got
the best talent around for his band and he must have really inspired them,
because imho they were the best of their time (the 1960's).  They were the
swingingist cats around!  When I regularly did a show on public radio, I
frequently used cuts from his big band CD to open up the show because, yes,
he added that extra energy and bounce to stuff that had been done before.

Byron

Byron Caloz
Portland, Oregon, USA, Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, July 18
Date: 17 Jul 1999 18:11:24 -0400


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal,
Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

All comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #57   Cool Tunes For A Hot Day

Ursula 1000:  Hip Length  "The Now Sound Of Ursula 1000"  (thanks, Alex)
Seks Bomba:  The Cat  "Operation Bomba" (thanks, George)
Hazy Osterwald:  El Cumbanchero  "Sudamerika Tanz-Reise"
Jimmy Smith:  Delon's Blues  "The Cat"

Franco Godi:  Parapapa 'Perepepe'  "Signor Rossi"
Valvola:  (One Love)Le Blues Ermetique  "Teenagers Film Their Own Life"
Balanco:  More  "More"
Les Parisiennes:  Les Hommes De Quarante Ans  "Twist Again Au Cine"
Franco Godi:  Tutankamen Cha Cha Cha  "Signor Rossi"

Lord Sitar:  Daydream Believer  "Lord Sitar"
Claude Denjean:  Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head  "Moog!"
Ennio Morricone:  Ad Ogni Costo (At Any Cost)  "Cocktail Mix 4:
Soundtracks With A Twist"
Philippe Sarde:  Juke Boxes Chez Saidani "Orchestral Party Act 1" (at
long last - thanks,Johan!)

Pascal Comelade:  C'era Una Volta  "Haikus de Pianos"
The Duke Of Burlington:  Flash  "The Pressed Piano"
Pop Concerto: Pop Concerto  "Orchestraux N. 1"
Hazy Osterwald:  Conny's Rumba  "Sudamerika Tanz-Reise"


Thanks for reading.

[e-mail]
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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) CoCo Joe and the NEW baby
Date: 18 Jul 1999 15:44:20 -0700


A Coco Joe Fertility Idol presided over the birth of our daughter, Caroline
Emilia Grandia at around 7:30pm last night.  The endless parade of Doctors
and nurses that came to check on mommy while she labored were all quite
taken with the 4 inch "lava" idol. It was quite the conversation piece.

Mother and baby are doing great! 7lbs11oz, 20 inches.

That's the last baby for me, so I guess I'd better sell it at the next
garage-sale.

Ron



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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) CoCo Joe and the NEW baby
Date: 18 Jul 1999 05:53:40 +0200


What can I say besides a big congrats!
I'd sincerely wish I were in your shoes Man.
Feeling for you, your wife and the new gal.

Magnus



>A Coco Joe Fertility Idol presided over the birth of our daughter, =
Caroline
>Emilia Grandia at around 7:30pm last night.



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) CoCo Joe and the NEW baby
Date: 18 Jul 1999 08:09:36 EDT


In a message dated 7/17/99 8:58:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< A Coco Joe Fertility Idol presided over the birth of our daughter, Caroline
 >Emilia Grandia at around 7:30pm last night. >>


Named after Caroline Records???  I am gunna name my next child "Scamp".

tiki bob


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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Alternate Cover Art
Date: 18 Jul 1999 09:31:19 -0400 (EDT)


> In some cases, I can understand that they were changing from
something
> less controversial (Arthur Lyman's shrunken head & volcano Taboo 2
> covers, Morton Gould's Jungle Drums with the topless female behind
the
> tree vs. the drums in the jungle, etc.).

I have that Gould album.  Nice cover.
But the music is... dull, really.

Peter
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update
Date: 18 Jul 1999 19:47:42 +0200


A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is available.
These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced
here.

(If you would like to receive the unabridged updates on a regular base by
e-mail, just let me know you want to get on my "XRO updater")



           - July 18: new (1999) releases, announcements & corrections -



* Eumir Deodato: "Nova Concepcao Samba "
      LP, Equipe 803, Brasil, 1999

* Spike Jones & His City Slickers: "Greatest Hits"
      CD, The Entertainers CD 0247, Germany, 1987
      RCA, USA, August 1999

* The Magnificent Seven: "The Best Of The Worst"
      CD, Basta 30-9086, Netherlands, 1999

* Klaus Nomi: "Total Eclipse: The Best Of"
      CD, Razor & Tie, USA, August 1999

* Soundtrack: "More Music From The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
  [by Hugo Montenegro, Various Composers]
      CD, RCA 637062, Spain, 1999

* Soundtrack: "Original Music From The Man From U.N.C.L.E."
  [by Hugo Montenegro, Various Composers]
      CD, RCA 638192, Spain, 1999

* Lalo Schifrin: "Talkin' Verve"
      CD, Verve, USA, July 1999

* Various Artists: "The Persuaders & Other Top Seventies TV Themes"
      Double CD, Sequel NEMCD 424, UK, 1999

* Various Artists: "UP!!!!!! The Second"
      CD/Double LP, Schema SCEB 905, Italy, 1999

* Speedy West & Jimmy Bryant:
  "Swingin' On The Strings: The Speedy West & Jimmy Bryant Collection,
Volume 2"
      CD, Razor & Tie 8291, USA, 1999



           - July 18: other interesting finds I stumbled on -


* Various Artists:
  "Jour De Fete/Les Vacances De Monsieur Hulot/Mon Oncle/Playtime"
      CD, Polygram France, 199?S

* Various Artists: "Tropicalia: 30 Anos"
      5 CD Box Set, Polygram, Brazil, Deleted?

* Various Artists: "Tropicalia Ou Panis Et Circencis"
      CD, Polygram, Brazil, Deleted?



        >>> Additions & corrections are more than welcome!
        >>> The XRO is a discography, NOT a sale catalog!

        For the online version of the eXotica Releases Overview,

        Dada'quariums Exotica: http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/

        Johan Dada Vis


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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) selling out! yikes...
Date: 18 Jul 1999 15:59:38 -0400


Hello, everyone,

I have about 60 days to completely empty my storage space/studio. It
contains 10s of thousands of records, thousands of books, a real lot of
miscellaneous stuff, and some other miscellany. The space is just under
1,000 square feet, ceilings only 6 feet high, and completely filled with
steel shelving and boxes full of stuff, right up to the door. This
circumstance also requires me to relinquish a substantial amount of
"home" stuff also (records, books, furniture).

I will be selling, giving away, throwing away, and trading (very little
of that!). I will try to keep approximately 2 to 3% of the total, which
is, as you collectors know, very little. That means i will sell a lot of
interesting and some valuable material.

Visitors/potential recipients can contact me at 718 488-7207 or email
me. My first preference will be to move large quantities of decent and
good and very good material at very low prices to single
individuals/dealers, in order to clear as much material as possible
ASAP. Future messages will contain lists of some items for sale.

I will be putting some of this on ebay, but obviously in the alloted
time and given the bulk and weight of much of this material (the
minerals, for example), ebay will help me with paper ephemera and a
small number of objects.

I will begin weaving my plain white cotton undergarments soon, and will
change my name to Citizen Gandhi.

Just kidding.

Thanks!

citizen kafka

--
Citizen Kafka, Producer, "The Secret Museum of the Air"
NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
& WXHD (Hudson Valley) 90.1 FM
http://www.megasaver.com/page2/smradio.html
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) April March
Date: 18 Jul 1999 23:10:49 +0100


>Where she REALLY shines is on the "Chrominance
>Decoder" CD, which was given a thumbs down.
>

this is about my favourite record of this year ... how on earth did it get
the thumbs down?

puzzled

Sem Sinatra

p.s. After recent discussions, i also want to say that i have spare copies of:

Thomas Crown Affair - Michel Legrand and
Fire Escape to the Sky - Scott Walker

which are up for swaps, or failing that sale ... contact me off-list for
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Exotica Baby
Date: 18 Jul 1999 11:58:03 EDT


In a message dated 7/17/99 4:12:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Mother and baby are doing great! 7lbs11oz, 20 inches.
  >>

Yeah, but how is the tiki ? !? !? ?!? !?

tiki bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Two More Caucasians
Date: 18 Jul 1999 22:02:20 EDT



I didn't seem to spark any interested when I posted questions a week or so
ago about The Sensuous/Slimy Sleepwalking Guitars of Dale & Dan, so I thought
I'd try two different white guys.

The past couple of days I've been listening to Derek Smith and Ray Cohen's
album Interplay-The Keyboard Sounds of Today!, arranged and conducted by
Marty Gold (1966 RCA Vic LSP-3530).

The album is a little easy, it's a little groovy, and it's a little funky.
It would be a fairly standard issue except that Derek Smith plays the
harpsichord, which adds something rather cool to the whole production.
Anyone want to share a word or two about Mr. Derek & Mr. Ray?  Did they do
any later works with piano and harpsichord, maybe piano and something from
the organ family.  How about, piano and some big weird chromatic percussive
instrument?  Well, did they huhhhhh???

-Roy


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CoCo Joe and the NEW baby
Date: 19 Jul 1999 10:04:15 +0200


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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) music data base?
Date: 19 Jul 1999 10:14:07 +0200


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) 45's weekend
Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:10:01 +0100


Found some interesting 45's this weekend in a charity shop,  I think
some bizarre old rocker was turfing out his collection,  some
interesting stuff.
Duane Eddy 'Peter Gunn'  -- should have had it for years,  but I'm too
mean to buy it full price.  Who plays the Saxophone on these things? I
love it its just so over the top.

Anthony Newley -- I can't remember the title but the B-side has a great
song about how his 'baby' spends the week ironing his socks, brushing
his new suede jacket etc so that on Saturday night he looks great,  set
to a piano boogie not a million miles from 'Down the Road A Piece'.  Of
its era,  shall we say.

Tom Springfield Combo  'Brazilian Shake'/'Brazilian Blues' -- Absolutely
wonderful,  The A side is a version of Bighorillo, with frenzied
Portuguese singing (I assume from Tom),  with a 'Hucklebuck' type of
beat underneath.  The B-side is a cheesie rocking Organ track.  The
whole thing is from 1964.  I can't imagine it was a hit and god knows
how it went down with the Springfields Folky fans.

All for about 50p.  I just love Help the Aged.


Back from a Rocking Weekend (Spent nearly all day Sunday listening to
'Telstar')

El Maestro Con Queso

[e-mail]
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Taboo vs. Tabu
Date: 19 Jul 1999 07:53:44 EDT


Greeting Exotica List Members,

I have notice that on the Exotic Trilogy CDs (as well as other places) that
people use two different spellings for the song Taboo (or Tabu as the case
may be).

Does anyone have an idea why the variation???

And why would The Exotic Trilogy change from Taboo on the first volume to
Tabu on the second???

Ever curious,

Tiki Bob

P.S.  I made the attempt to "introduce" Exotica music (specifically Martin
Denny) to a parrothead recently.  I gave him a CD copy of The Japanese
import, The Very Best of Martin Denny.  I will keep the list posted as to the
developments.  T.B.


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Eddy's Sax Player
Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:47:01 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:

> Duane Eddy 'Peter Gunn'  -- should have had it for years,  but I'm too
> mean to buy it full price.  Who plays the Saxophone on these things?

The guy's name is Jim Horn, and he's still playing.  You can
hear him on some tracks by country singer Vince Gill.  But his
work with Duane Eddy is the definitive bronchial sax playing...

Duane Eddy's rebels also included Larry Knechtel on bass:
he was the guy who (I think) played piano on Bridge over
Troubled Water.

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) 45's weekend or Tom keeps it Rio...
Date: 19 Jul 1999 09:48:28 -0400


>Tom Springfield Combo  'Brazilian Shake'/'Brazilian Blues'

I wonder how long he stayed on the Latin kick.  "Night School" (STILL
looking for someone who has even heard it, let alone finding the danged
record!) was in a similar vein.




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From: [e-mail] (Eric Marvin)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Exotiquarium album cover art book
Date: 19 Jul 1999 07:20:07 -0700



     Mark Wrote:

     < the quality of the images is a little
     disappointing.>

     I have to agree.  The text, of which I am half way through, is
     quite informative, however rather general and just skims the surface.

     Eric


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Marvin)
Subject: (exotica) Re: Oh, spare me!
Date: 19 Jul 1999 07:22:36 -0700


     Will writes:

     <Sting doing "Windmills of Your Mind."

     The horror, the horror.

     This is the man who couldn't read a book without having to write
     us a song about it.>

     I volunteered to sing the title, being a Thomas Crown fanatic, and the
     producers just said, "Who are you?"  Then I wake up.

     Eric


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: More Peter Gunn
Date: 17 Jul 1999 19:48:25 +0200


    More music from "Peter Gun"
    CD, RCA Living Stereo 29857 2, Germany, 1995


        visit The "eXotica Releases Overview":
        http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/



Also ran across a new issue of Peter Gunn on RCA which has not only the
entire first album but several cuts from "More Peter Gunn" (which, of
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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Taboo vs. Tabu
Date: 19 Jul 1999 17:38:14 +0200


 [e-mail] wrote:

> people use two different spellings for the song Taboo (or Tabu as the case
> may be).
>
> Does anyone have an idea why the variation???

OK, I hope I remember all of this correctly:

When you transform the native languages of Tonga, Hawaii and other South sea
cultures into Western Latin letters, you have to do this based on how the
sounds  are spelled in a specific Western language. If you take English for
example as the reference language you have to spell the word "taboo". However
Hawaii, Tonga etc. chose German as their reference way back; the word pronounced
as the English "taboo" would be spelled "Tabu" in  German, which is how
Hawaiians etc. actually write this word in their own languages today.

In the special case of the actual word "Tabu" another fact might be interesting:
The word came into Western culture by mistake: When Murnau made his film "Tabu"
in  Bora Bora in 1931, a little island next to Bora Bora played a significant
role: It was the island of the gods and no man was allowed to enter it. It was
called Tapu. Despite native threats Murnau did enter the island and built a
house for himself on it. Because he did not die immediately he was seen by the
natives as a kind of god after that. Later though, the hut burnt down
mysteriously (none of the natives admitted having done it, they claimed "it was
the gods"), and after his return to America Murnau died in a car crash soon
after the making of this film, his last one, "Tabu". The word however became a
synonym for "forbidden, sacred" from then on.

> And why would The Exotic Trilogy change from Taboo on the first volume to
> Tabu on the second???

You have to ask that KBZ 200; I can only guess: either because they want to use
the term as it is used in the south seas as a kind of respect to those people or
simply because they, the makers of the Exotica Trilogy, live in Berlin, Germany.

???

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Taboo vs. Tabu
Date: 19 Jul 1999 11:52:03 EDT


In a message dated 07/19/99 11:39:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< You have to ask that KBZ 200; I can only guess: either because they want
to use
 the term as it is used in the south seas as a kind of respect to those
people or
 simply because they, the makers of the Exotica Trilogy, live in Berlin,
Germany.

 ???

 Mo
  >>

And another interesting transformation ! ! !   KBZ 200 is now "KB Zed".

The plot thickens.

Tiki Bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) calling Citizen Kafka
Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:01:04 EDT


Citizen Kafka,
I just spoke with you on the telephone.  I need your email address please.

My sincere apologies to everyone else.

Larry


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From: Xentrix <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) tiki party scene in new Muppets movie!!!
Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:08:39 -0400 (EDT)


Took my kiddle to the movies last weekend and
surprisingly the Muppets from Space movie had a cool
tiki party scene in it. Pepe the King Prawn and Rizzo
the Rat hypnotize Gonzo into believing .... "Build a
Jacuzzi and They Will Come.."  Gonzo builds a jacuzzi
and they have a bitchen tiki party! They're all
wearing little tiny aloha shirts and drinking garishly
garnished drinks from little tiny tiki mugs. If you
have kids - take 'em. The movie's too cute. All the
music is 70's funk.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) united future organisation
Date: 19 Jul 1999 09:11:14 PDT


just got the new UFO album, 'bon voyage' over the weekend and it's a
spanking piece of dancefloor jazz. i love the way they keep original vocals
in club music. exotica content? well, larger latin feel than usual, arabic
melodies, and on the last track, jungle exotica with animal noises, (and a
groove to scare the most intrepid dancer). modern exotica. plus it's
japanese and i'm illogically attracted to japanese music (though i should
point out this sounds about as japanese as dj krush).

in the charity shops this weekend i bought a morton subotnik concerto for
violin and elecronic noise, because jack diamond was always raving about him
here some time ago. wasn't exactly blown away but it's always nice to have
old elecronic music.
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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend Finds...
Date: 19 Jul 1999 11:54:56 -0400


Not a bad little batch:

Arthur Lyman "Bahia"=20

James Barretto "Senior 007" - Great cover of Esquivel look-alike Barretto =
with golden gun posed in "action shot" while two 60's babes hang onto him. =
 Musically, it's not as "over-the-top" as you always hope these Bond =
interpretations will be.  Surprisingly "laid back" jazz interpretations of =
the Bond stuff.  Not bad.

Chet Atkins "Teensville" - Never heard Chet, but love that "big twangy =
guitar sound" even if the tempos are bit on the slower side.......Fun =
cover of guitars suspended in mid-air while teens dance their asses off in =
the background.

Music from "I Spy" - Great theme song, the rest (I only listened to side A =
so far) sounds like "cool 'n mellow jazz" - good stuff but don't expect =
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend Finds...
Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:32:36 -0400 (EDT)




--- Nathan Miner <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Not a bad little batch:

> Arthur Lyman "Bahia"
Good one! Bahia's one of my favorite Lyman lps.

> Chet Atkins "Teensville" - Never heard Chet,

You should look out for Chester and Lester (Paul), CA
Picks on the Beatles and his Latin-style lp (can't
recall title).

I found a couple of fun things over the weekend: Stero
gatefold copy of Lyman's Yellow Bird; Percussion with
Guitars on the Time Label (arranged by Al Caiola.
Great stereo-sploitation record. Killer version of
Jazz Pizzicato). Batman Themes by the Batboys - some
Jazz-like tracks, others (such as theme) sound like
surf guitar lurking behing an assertive Hammond).
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Subject: (exotica) Re: The Batboys....
Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:11:04 -0400



Urrrgh!  I found this LP (sans jacket) painfully wedged into a "naked" =
pile of other LP's............of course it was shot to hell so I could =
only marvel at the sounds cut into those grooves..............

Oh yeah, I also picked up a (surprisingly) good bossa nova album by "The =
Brasilaros."  The jacket's a funky affair with a crazy multi-colored =
spiral effect backing the large letters: "Girl from Ipanema" with the band =
name in small type below it.

"Girl" is a decent female vocal track, all the rest are good bossa =
instros.

Yeah, Bahia is one of Lyman's best - lots of frenzied bongos/drums on many =
tracks.

A GATEFOLD "Yellow Bird?" must be a re-issue?

Those TIME percussion albums have some frenetic stuff on 'em that's for =
sure.  Percussion w/Guitars has that minimalist black lines/white =
background cover right?

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Subject: (exotica) Re: The Batboys....
Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:25:17 -0400 (EDT)




--- Nathan Miner <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Urrrgh!  I found this LP (sans jacket) painfully
> wedged into a "naked" pile of other
> LP's........
Here I should probably add that my lp, though
jacketed, looks as though it washed up on the beach.
It is playable, no skips - just gotta tolerate the
sound of worms sizzling in the skillet.

> Oh yeah, I also picked up a (surprisingly) good
> bossa nova album by "The Brasilaros."

Ah - the other lp I picked up was Astrud Gilberto: The
Shadow of Your Smile. On Verve, and not bad, though
not so good as recordings with husband and Getz. Oh
Christ - almost forgot. In a used lp store I dropped
$6 for the UK import single of Jane B's duet with
Gainsbourg. Although I have both single and lp
already, this one came with a rather stunning stunning
stunning stunning stunning sleeve. (Magnus, we had a
related discussion. If you want, I'll send off a xerox
;^}> - Ben Waugh, international pornographer,
Protracted adolescence, Inc.).
>
> Yeah, Bahia is one of Lyman's best - lots of
> frenzied bongos/drums on many tracks.
>
> A GATEFOLD "Yellow Bird?" must be a re-issue?

I'll chance a no on that - the mono version, the only
copy I had hitherto come across, is non-gatefold.
>
> Those TIME percussion albums have some frenetic
> stuff on 'em that's for sure.  Percussion w/Guitars
> has that minimalist black lines/white background
> cover right?

Yessir. Great lp. Not overly diverting to the eye.

 "...To the English language what Bowl-A-Rama Moderne
is to interior decorating,"

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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: The Batboys....
Date: 19 Jul 1999 14:54:00 -0400



>A GATEFOLD "Yellow Bird?" must be a re-issue?



Last week I  found a copy of this in my Mom's cellar.  The gatefold is full
of pictures of machines used to cut LP's.

BTW, Found a copy of Fever and Smoke by the 3 Suns at a Goodwill last
Friday. 25 cents.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: The Batboys....
Date: 19 Jul 1999 14:00:47 -0400 (EDT)




--- Dom Ciccone <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> >A GATEFOLD "Yellow Bird?" must be a re-issue?

> Last week I  found a copy of this in my Mom's
> cellar.

Lucky you! The only thing I ever found in my mother's
cellar were the borderlands of pain and humiliation.

The gatefold is full
> of pictures of machines used to cut LP's.

That is it. Boy is that one informative record album.
I was hoping, when i yanked my copy from the congeries
of vintage unter-shorts, that it would be his Exotic
Percussion. But dammit, it was not.
>
> BTW, Found a copy of Fever and Smoke by the 3 Suns
> at a Goodwill last
> Friday. 25 cents.

Another fine find. I'm still hoping to find a
replacement for my stereo copy of Movin' and Groovin'
- jacket of which is nearly in two. Not much hope.

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Re: The Batboys....
Date: 19 Jul 1999 20:35:15 +0200


 In a used lp store I dropped
>$6 for the UK import single of Jane B's duet with
>Gainsbourg. Although I have both single and lp
>already, this one came with a rather stunning stunning
>stunning stunning stunning sleeve. (Magnus, we had a
>related discussion. If you want, I'll send off a xerox
>;^}> - Ben Waugh, international pornographer,
>Protracted adolescence, Inc.).

I cant stop listen to Jane B and Serge. Need Xerox!=20
Oh, if anyone is visiting Goteborg this week, please visit friendly =
restaurant Oji on friday evening. I will play records there until late.=20

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) March 1950 issue METRONOME Magazine ?
Date: 19 Jul 1999 14:48:47 -0400 (EDT)


 I'm passing this along for a friend. If anyone can help Jeff out, please
give him a shout.
Thanks.
-Lou
     WANTED:  I would like to buy a March,
     1950 issue of METRONOME Magazine.
     If you can locate a copy, please
     e-mail me at:  [e-mail]

Thank you,
-Jeff


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From: Bruce Lenkei <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Early 3 Suns
Date: 19 Jul 1999 15:27:52 -0400 (EDT)



I saw a CD compilation of some 3 Suns music at my local record store.
Before I shell out seven bucks, I was wondering if I could get an idea as
to what their early stuff sounds like. It's all from the late 40's to
early 50's.

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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :)
Date: 19 Jul 1999 21:53:14 +0200


Last saturday nite I was at a local community radio (Radio Citta', from my
hometown Pescara) together with my friend Shadrach. We went to visit our
friends TGTH and Cerin0 who host two very strange programmes every saturday.
TGTH's program begins at 11PM and goes on until 1AM.... it's called "Ai
confini della realta'", which literally means "At the borders of reality"
(but this is the Italian title for "The Twilight Zone" :)))) and he uses
the opening voices from Twilight Zone). This program consists in all sorts
of weird music, ranging from dark ambient/isolationism to gabber/hardcore
techno. He sometimes plays not-so-obscure electronic stuff like Orbital or
Spring Heel Jack, but alway in
 -er- let's say *a unique mixing style* :)
He often has guests playing with old home computers or things like that.
So this time Shadrach presented a track from his new cd single "La tua
faccia/Soli" (sort of Prodigy meets punk rock with Italian lyrics) which is
coming soon on cd-r on my label Kutmusic; I carried various cds and some
vinyl 7".
We used large bits of PLU's "Hate people like us" (TGTH played a lot with
Coil's voice on Vicki Bennet's answering machine while I played most of the
Negativland track and other bits... especially some of the lounge samples
;)))))
Here's a list of the vinyls (all weird Italian 7"'s which I find in flea
markets) I used:
-Franco Micalizzi "Albert e l'Uomo Nero" dark soundtrack music from a 1976
(probably horror-themed) Italian tv-movie...
-Liriche d'amore dell'Antica Cina: a collection of translated Chinese love
poems from 1956.
-Pino Calvi "Enigma" - more tv soundtrack music, but from 1980.
-L'Ingegner Giovanni e Famiglia (!!!) - "Telstar / Solaris". Ehm... two
covers of funny electronic tracks (dated January 1973!!!)
-Tony Ranno "Fregami": useless, ridiculous pop/rock singer from early 80's.
The title sounds like "Cheat on me" but it might also mean "Fuck me"...
;))))))))))
some atmospheric keyboard stuff at the beginning but I used it for the lyrics.
-Roberto Cotumaccio "Sognando la mia citta'" - even more useless 1988
promotional disc with a song about my town, Pescara. Pretty ridiculous.
We also stayed for Cerino's techno/gabber program (1AM-2AM) and had fun
watching him and TGTH stopping the music to scream in the microphones
(Cerin0 does also a great imitation of the computer's voice from Wargames
saying "Hello, Professor Falken" ;)))))
A nice way to spend a saturday nite. :)

p.s. yesterday TGTH told me that some of his listeners called him to ask
about the weirdo manipulating vinyl during his show... ;))))


bye,
Nicola (Dj Batman) Battista

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Hudson Brother/s
Date: 19 Jul 1999 16:48:11 EDT


I haven't heard anyone mention the Hudson Brothers in 20 years and then
someone here on the good ship Exotica spoke of them.  Now I see Mark Hudson
on the cover of this months Electronic Musician magazine (there's a 6 page
article on him).  How very odd.

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Subject: SV: (exotica) Hudson Brother/s
Date: 20 Jul 1999 00:02:19 +0200


>I haven't heard anyone mention the Hudson Brothers in 20 years and then =

>someone here on the good ship Exotica spoke of them

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Two More Caucasians
Date: 19 Jul 1999 18:11:18 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:

> The past couple of days I've been listening to Derek Smith and Ray Cohen's
> album Interplay-The Keyboard Sounds of Today!, arranged and conducted by
> Marty Gold (1966 RCA Vic LSP-3530).

The first Derek & Ray record that I came upon was The Keyboard Sounds of Today!
(RCA 3665) not to be confused with the one you mentioned which shares the same
title. After being overwhelmingly enthusiastic about this album I grabbed three
other D&R records including the one you have, Interplay, and I must admit I was
a little disappointed.  The Keyboard Sounds Of Today is a rockin' good time in
that sort of NowSound, kinda Mod, Hip, happening way. The other albums just
don't live up to it and it's not so much that they do anything that different
it's rather a question of song selection. Excellent versions of The Green Hornet
Theme, The Work song and Modesty Blaise theme not to mention Spanish Flea and
Delicado.
So, what is it about the harpsichord being a central element to that Groovy
sixties sound. Where on earth did that come from? Wasn't there a sixties groovy
look that called for wearing Baroque styled garb, you know frilly cuffs and the
like, you think the harpsichord sound was a part of this?
Anyhow back to Derek and Ray. I have a Derek Smith album where he plays Piano,
Harpsichord and Organ (Lowrey I think). The organ cuts are the best the rest is
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Two More Caucasians
Date: 19 Jul 1999 20:49:35 EDT


Well "The Keyboard Sounds of Today!"  (RCA 3665) sounds like the album to
hear.  According to the liner notes the "The Keyboard Sounds of Today!" album
that I have followed 2 albums by Derek & Ray on which they both played piano
in a much straighter jazz orchestral fashion.  So it must have taken them a
couple of tries to build up their speed and hit peak groovieness with the
album that you enjoy.

By the way what are the titles of the other two Derek & Ray albums that you
have?

Thanks for the input/help/response/information/...

Who am I kidding, thanks for paying attention to me.

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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Evil Ames paranoia
Date: 19 Jul 1999 22:58:12 -0500


Help, I just became entranced by the cover photo of the Ames Brothers
on "The Blend and the Beat".
They are telling me that I will most definitely have troubled dreams
with their evil grimaces playing a central role. What's with these guys?
Their incredibly fake smiles and squinty eyes have that look like they
are all too knowing about your most embarrassing secret and are ready
and willing to spread that news to all....
I recall now how a friend of mine once mentioned how angry their version
of Besame Mucho sounded. And the lyrics to Night train !  "Night train,
that took my baby far away.." and " My mama said I'd loose her if I'd
ever to abuse her..."  Ok, so she's gone, meaning.. he did abuse her!
My god, I've got goose bumps  picturing the Ames bothers as the kind of
goons that will beat the crap out of you just cause you "looked funny at
them".
Thanks for indulging my fears upon a schlock vocal quartet.

A scared Frank
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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Evil Ames paranoia
Date: 20 Jul 1999 05:09:57 +0200



>A scared Frank



      [ fraaaaaaaaaaaaaank... ]=20
                 |          =20

   O O    O O   O O     O O
     --        --        --          --
     o        o        o           O
                                        |
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Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :)
Date: 20 Jul 1999 05:52:18 +0200



>Kutmusic
>http://members.xoom.com/kutmusic


Not that it shockes me that much, but in Dutch "kutmusic",
"kutmuziek", means very, very lousy music, "kut" being the
most dirty word for the female genital organ...

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Phono Preamp
Date: 20 Jul 1999 00:40:06 -0400


Geekiness, again. . .

Some people might have run across the problem of needing to connect a
turntable to something (amp, powered speakers) that only has line-level
inputs. Or if you want to be like Jane Fondle and go for the dual-table
setup, where do you plug in the second one?

Well, you jump from the cigarette-pack-sized phono preamps that sell for
about $25 (I got a Taiwanese one from Pfanstiel which frankly sucked),
straight to the $100-200 audiophile models--which just sounded like way
too much money to me.

So I did some research, ordered about twelve bucks worth of parts from
http://www.mouser.com, and built my own--which to my eternal amazement
seems to work and sound fine. I don't consider myself to know very much
about electronics at all, but if you have some background in soldering-type
projects I could probably talk you through it. Email me off-list for
details.

This came from me wanting to have the turntable go directly into the
computer, for burning CD-Rs. The way things had been set up, I needed to
sprint off to the next room every time I wanted to lift the tonearm. . .

cheers,

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Subject: (exotica) Society for Commercial Archeology hits Kahiki
Date: 20 Jul 1999 03:25:41 EDT


thought some of you in the Ohio area would be interested in this:
>      SOCIETY FOR COMMERCIAL ARCHEOLOGY MEETS IN  COLUMUS, OHIO, AUGUST
>  19-21   Do meals seem to taste better to you in a 1950s  diner?  Would
>  you
>  drive a few more miles to fill up at a vintage gas  station or stay in a
>  cozy tourist cabin?  Do you love the colors and buzz  of an old neon
>  sign?
>  If so, the Society for Commercial Archeology's annual  conference has
>  been
>  planned with you in mind.   A national organization devoted to vintage
>  commercial architecture -- drive-ins, motels, diners, gas stations,
>  highways,  and neon signs -- the Society for Commercial Archeology (SCA)
>  will bring its  annual conference to the Westin Great Southern Hotel in
>  Columbus, Ohio, August  19-21, 1999, in cooperation with the Ohio
>  Historic
>  Preservation Office, National  Signs of the Times Museum, and the
>  Columbus
>  Landmarks Foundation.   The conference, entitled MADE IN OHIO:
>  ENAMELED
>  EATERIES, DURABLE DOMICILES, AND FAST FOOD, will feature sessions on
>  White
>  Castle, one of the nation's oldest fast food chains; Lustron porcelain
>  enameled steel houses (1999 is the 50th anniversary of the Lustron era);
>  Isaly's, originator of the Klondike Bar; and Wendy's Old Fashioned
>  Hamburgers,  all of which began in Ohio.  Featured speakers include
>  Philip
>  Langdon,  author of the book ORANGE ROOFS, GOLDEN ARCHES:  THE
>  ARCHITECTURE
>  OF  AMERICAN CHAIN RESTAURANTS.   The original Wendy's, which opened on
>  E.
>  Broad  St. in Columbus in 1969, will host a reception for conference
>  participants on  Thursday, August 19.  The restaurant features an
>  extensive
>  collection of  Wendy's memorabilia.   Conference sessions on Friday will
>  be
>  followed  by a banquet at The Kahiki, "the world's most beatuiful
>  Polynesian supper  club."  Opened in 1961, The Kahiki was added to the
>  National Register  of Historic Places in 1997.  Its exotic atmosphere,
>  like
>  the movie palaces  of the 1920s, is designed to transport patrons to
>  another world.  Guests  dine in bamboo huts, or beside a tropical rain
>  forest where thunder rumbles,  lightning flashes, and rain falls on cue.
>  The conference concludes with a bus tour on  Saturday, featuring vintage
>  tourist courts, motels, gas stations, and signs  along the old National
>  Road, a stop at White Castle corporate headquarters, a  look inside a
>  Lustron house, and a trip to the Longaberger Basket Company's new
>  seven-story basket-shaped office building in Newark, Ohio.   For details
>  and a registration form, write Ohio  Historic Preservation Office, 567
>  E.
>  Hudson St., Columbus, OH  43211-1030,  call (614-297-2470, or fax (614)
>  297-2496.  A complete program description  and registration
>  information/form is also available on the SCA's web site,
>  www.sca-roadside.org.   The SCA is the oldest national organization
>  devoted to the commercial built environment.  SCA's goal is to promote
>  public awareness and understanding of the artifacts, structures, signs,
>  and
>  symbols of the American commercial process, encompassing the celebrated
>  and
>  anonymous work of America's best designers, with a particular emphasis
>  on
>  the  impact the automobile had on the shaping of our culture.   The Ohio
>  Historic Preservation Office, housed at  the Ohio Historical Society, is
>  the official historic preservation agency of the  state of Ohio.


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Amiable Ames...
Date: 20 Jul 1999 09:01:40 +0100


recliner wrote:

> Help, I just became entranced by the cover photo of the Ames Brothers
> on "The Blend and the Beat".
> They are telling me that I will most definitely have troubled dreams
> with their evil grimaces playing a central role. What's with these guys?

How strange!  To me they'd always looked like the sort of guys that,
when the records stopped selling, they'd go back to running their ice
cream vans, stopping to ring home every now and then to make sure
momma's ok.

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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]
Date: 20 Jul 1999 12:23:29 +0200


Ton wrote:
>Not that it shockes me that much, but in Dutch "kutmusic",
>"kutmuziek", means very, very lousy music, "kut" being the
>most dirty word for the female genital organ...

hehe. I discovered that years after I started my label, through a Dutch
friend. ;))))
Read what I wrote at the end of the main page for an explanation. :-)))))

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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popularaire)
Date: 20 Jul 1999 10:08:04 -0400



->
>>By the way, what is on the cover of the original issue of "Peter Gunn"?  I
>>have two copies, both with different covers and I find it hard to believe
>>that either one was the original.
>
>>The other cover is sort of turquoise
>>blue and has no picture, just a couple of pink lines that sort of resemble
>>lightning.  That one sort of looks like the cover on my copy of "More
music
>>from Peter Gunn".

>>One cover has a bunch of lopsided
>>rectangles, mostly yellow or orange.
>


Michael

Check out this web page. Fred has pictures of Mancini albums. 2 for More
Peter Gunn.

   Link:      Mancini page of Fred West
   URL:       <http://home.wxs.nl/~fredwest/mancini.html>

He used to have on this page an unusual Peter Gunn cover with, as you
described it,  rectangles, mostly yellow or orange.  Maybe if we ask Fred he
could put it back. I want to compare it to a Living Stereo album I have
called Overture, Overture.


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From: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]
Date: 20 Jul 1999 16:03:17 +0200



>>Not that it shockes me that much, but in Dutch "kutmusic",
>>"kutmuziek", means very, very lousy music, "kut" being the
>>most dirty word for the female genital organ...
>
>hehe. I discovered that years after I started my label, through a Dutch
>friend. ;))))
>Read what I wrote at the end of the main page for an explanation. :-)))))


Yes, what a relief.

Another source of much hilarity is the male equivalent, "lul".
Try listening again to Sinatra crooning "There's a lull in my life".

Cheers, Ton

PS

No English word comes anywhere close to the Dutch word for the actual deed,
so all rest assured that the thread ends here.


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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sondi Sodsai on ebay
Date: 20 Jul 1999 16:02:03 +0200


Its the japanese cd reissue. Out of print.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D132823550

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]
Date: 20 Jul 1999 10:12:52 -0400 (EDT)


Really? Neither to quim nor to swive?

--- Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]> wrote:


> No English word comes anywhere close to the Dutch
 word for the actual deed,

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Scott Walker
Date: 20 Jul 1999 10:38:49 -0400




>I don't think that's controversial.  I'm not going to say that Jack and
Andy are interchangeable but they both have beautiful large voices, like
Scott Walker.  Jack's voice may get the edge in resemblance but Andy comes
close enough to mention.
For some reason, Jack comes off as somewhat "hipper" than Andy, despite who
Andy was married to and the fact that he covered SO MANY unlikely sixties
and seventies hits.

Thanks for this!  I'll sleep better.  I wonder if Jack Jones still has the
disturbing "Beatle-do" he did in the 7ts!  Shelley Manne and Mundell Lowe
had the same one!  UG!
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Date: 20 Jul 1999 10:40:21 -0400




Then again, what about a church thrift store that is selling tiki idols?
They might as well have a goat made of gold.

Tiki Bob


Hell(sorry, not pun intended!)...I gotta 5ts pulp novel called SEX PACK at
the last church sale I went to!
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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]
Date: 20 Jul 1999 07:55:46 PDT


>From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
>To: Ton Rueckert <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]
>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:12:52 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>Really? Neither to quim nor to swive?
>
both of which are valid english words. even if swive is quite obsolete
except in dialect. though they don't mean the same thing in english.
which reminds me of talking to an italian person about some goo in an
episode of star trek saying it looked like swarfega (a brand of industrial
soap) and he looked kind of shocked. sounded like suor fica in italian
(translation on request).

rob


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>  word for the actual deed,
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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New releases (Wilp,Dissevelt/Baltan)
Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:00:48 +0200


Arjan Plug wrote:

> ATA TAK (GERMANY):
>
> WILP, CHARLES: Charles Wilp Fotografiert Bunny CD (ATA WR74).

The official release party will take place on August 19th in Cologne, Germany.
According to Moritz R. a promotional video will see the light of day in
September.

Marco

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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) book with vintage record graphics
Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:01:24 +0200


I bought a nice new book yesterday:

'In the groove - vintage record graphics 1940-1960', compiled by Eric
Kohler, published by Chronicle Books. About 130 pages filled - in
full-colour - with lots of beaufiful covers. Not specifically aimed at
an exotic audience, but I don't think that anyone of us can resist the
records that are pictured in this book.
Special section of designs by Jim Flora. Also includes a few Yma Sumac
covers, one by Les Baxter and a few other Capitol albums. Mmmm, nice!

By the way, I noticed that the book 'Album covers from the vinyl
junkyard' has been deleted. I saw it at less than half the original
price in a Dutch store that only sells overstocks and deleted titles.

Marco

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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]
Date: 20 Jul 1999 11:10:14 -0400 (EDT)


Yes. Both valid, both archaic as verbs. In the sense
that each verb is gender specific, you are correct to
distinguish difference between them - but they do
indeed "mean" to the same thing (application of one or
the other differ depends upon who's doing the thing).

That spent, I'm done.

> >Really? Neither to quim nor to swive?

> both of which are valid english words. even if swive
> is quite obsolete
> except in dialect. though they don't mean the same
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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Hudson Brother/s
Date: 20 Jul 1999 11:25:44 -0400








>I haven't heard anyone mention the Hudson Brothers in 20 years and then
>someone here on the good ship Exotica spoke of them

Wasnt that our lovely Jane Fondle?

M


>'T'was!  And, again, I am happy to report that, save for the dreaded
"Chucky Margolis" skits INCLUDED in the record, it's a great mix of
cock-rock, glam and now-sound!  Eric Carmen is put to shame!
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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend Finds
Date: 20 Jul 1999 16:29:10 +0100


        I had a rather good weekend where I found

        Alan Tew Orchestra- Don't Look at me listen to the music on
PYE 4D (Excellent Version of The Pink Panther)

        The Amazing Dancing Band - Volume 2 (Very Strange Music
Indeed)

        Mandingo 3 (What Can I say I have been looking for it for
three years)

        The Peddlers first LP (Very poor anybody want to buy it????)

        A BBC stereophonic workshop LP also not so good.

        Cheers
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Yellow Bird
Date: 20 Jul 1999 12:20:15 -0400


Ben answered Nate,

>> A GATEFOLD "Yellow Bird?" must be a re-issue?
>
>I'll chance a no on that - the mono version, the only
>copy I had hitherto come across, is non-gatefold.

Well, to add to your Lyman trivia file, I've got a non-gatefold stereo copy
(via Canada, apparently); and even weirder, I found a stereo gatefold one
(with the techie stuff inside) re-titled "Percussion Spectacular!". It is
otherwise identical to the regular _Yellow Bird_, Lava and everything--just
the title is changed.

The name change is pretty goofy, since _YB_ generally tends more towards
the restrained and sensitive. I agree with Nate,  _Bahia_ is the most
energetic Lyman LP I've heard so far. . .

cheers,

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend Finds
Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:56:42 +0100


> From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
>
>
>         The Peddlers first LP (Very poor anybody want to buy it????)
>

I like The Peddlers. There's a great album, the cover of which looks
like a giant matchbook, and it folds open to show (as you might
expect) enormous matches: real cheesy stuff. Anyway, there's versions
on that album of "Love For Sale" and "In The Summertime" which are
outstanding. Some of their stuff is pretty weak though.


>         A BBC stereophonic workshop LP also not so good.
>

Does anyone have one that is actually good? I have two Stereophonic
Workshop albums, and they're both horrible; they sound bland and weedy.


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: peter thomas - warp back to earth
Date: 19 Jul 1999 19:33:49 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

> Can anyone tell me,  is all of Peter Thomas stuff like this?

    thank heavens, NO ;-)
    for more on Peter Thomas, go to:

        the REVIEWS page on my web site:
        http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/

        Zounds in Cyber Space:
        http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1936/




> The originals have
>some great stuff,  if a little fractured.  I've seen the remixes on
>vinyl,  I guess the original versions weren't released in this format

    AFAIK, only on dble CD

        Johan


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From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Shrunken Head
Date: 20 Jul 1999 11:20:44 PDT


I said no to a $10 copy of Arthur Lyman's Taboo II with the shrunken head
cover. Did I do a stupid thing? It was in decent shape, not great.

Thanks for your thoughts

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Subject: (exotica) Jack J & Ed A
Date: 20 Jul 1999 11:50:15 -0700


RE: Jack Jones
<I wonder if Jack Jones still has the
disturbing "Beatle-do" he did in the 7ts!  Shelley Manne and Mundell
Lowe
had the same one!  UG!
Jane"good hair day" Fondle>

On his 1987 CD "I Am A Singer" he looks a lot like Andy, actually quite
handsome despite the pink sweater and white pants. Unfortunately the
title song and most of the tunes tread either in sap-flowing Manilow
territory or synth-lounge, with a few ok jazz standards thrown in, but
his voice seems a bit strained. The only highlight I guess is a lame
tribute to adultery called "The Other Woman, The Other Man ("play our
games, tell our lies, and synchronize our alibis"). I'd like to hear
Shania cover this one to give me hope.

Ames:
The Ames' (or RCA)must have hypnotized Esquivel to do the arrangements
for the Ames Bros latin LP, which I have yet to listen to all the way
through. Ed's true claim to fame was his tomahawk throwing exhibition on
Johnny Carson. Guess he was part indian, and flipped a tomahawk at a
board with a human outline drawn on it. The tomahawk landed right in the
crotch. This and Tiny Tim's wedding may be the two most famous Tonight
Show incidents. God Bless Tiny Tim.

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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" July 21, 1999
Date: 20 Jul 1999 15:25:26 -0400


"Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Elakelaiset - Hump "Werbung, Baby!"
Dr Gunni - Abba Babb! "Abba Babb!"
Perrey & Kingsley - Barnyard in Orbit "The Essential...."

H.N.A.S. - Das Dynamische Dreieck "Musik fur Schuhgeschafte"
The Moog Machine - You Keep Me Hangin' On "The Exotic Moog of Space Age
Bachelor Pad Music"
Perrey & Kingsley - Strangers in the Night "The Essential..."
Stock, Hausen & Walkman - Flagging "Venetian Deer" [thanks Cheryl & Brian]
Funki Porcini - 123,3,4 "The Ultimately Empty Million Pounds"

Simply Saucer - Mole Machine "Cyborgs Revisited"
Mr Scruff - Shanty Town "Keep it Unreal"
Toxies - Raggadolphin "The Nurnberg Dolphin Orchestra"

Alan Lorber Orchestra - Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds "The Lotus Palace"
The Ventures - Endless Dream "Super Psychedelics"
The Electric Underground - Aerial Flipout "Guitar Explosion"

DXM - California Cashier "Grin"
Mr Scruff - Ambiosound "Get a Move On!"
Deep Turtle - Jeriko Jr "Dumbstriking Incidents"
H.N.A.S. - Storenfried Hintergrund "Musik fur Schuhgeschafte"


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Jack J & Ed A
Date: 20 Jul 1999 16:47:58 -0400


James BG wrote

>Ames:
>The Ames' (or RCA)must have hypnotized Esquivel to do the arrangements
>for the Ames Bros latin LP, which I have yet to listen to all the way
>through. Ed's true claim to fame was his tomahawk throwing exhibition on
>Johnny Carson. Guess he was part indian, and flipped a tomahawk at a
>board with a human outline drawn on it. The tomahawk landed right in the
>crotch. This and Tiny Tim's wedding may be the two most famous Tonight
>Show incidents. God Bless Tiny Tim.
>
I mentioned the Ames brothers to a work mate and he said they were came out
of Dorchester Massachusetts (like New Kids On The Block). Ed Ames died
recently and he thinks there is only one Ames brother left.

Just found "The Blend and the Beat" about a month ago and may have only
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Subject: (exotica) Re: Shrunken Head
Date: 20 Jul 1999 14:52:13 -0500


DOH!

i LOVE that record!

i'm actually looking for a copy of Taboo II with the alternate cover
if anyone runs across one of those that they dont want.   passed on
one years ago - been kickin myself ever since.

  - kk


>I said no to a $10 copy of Arthur Lyman's Taboo II with the shrunken
>head cover. Did I do a stupid thing? It was in decent shape, not
>great.

visit...

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From: Michael Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popu
Date: 20 Jul 1999 16:42:54 -0500



Dom wrote:

>Check out this web page. Fred has pictures of Mancini albums. 2 for More
>Peter Gunn.
>
>   Link:      Mancini page of Fred West
>   URL:       <http://home.wxs.nl/~fredwest/mancini.html>

Thanks! I didn't see any Peter Gunns (or links off of that page where
they might be), but saw a pretty hefty overview of Mancini CDs. But "More
PG" *also* went under different covers?

>He used to have on this page an unusual Peter Gunn cover with, as you
>described it,  rectangles, mostly yellow or orange.  Maybe if we ask Fred he
>could put it back. I want to compare it to a Living Stereo album I have
>called Overture, Overture.

If not, I'll try to get mine scanned in eventually. It wouldn't surprise
me that if this art was used on two Living Stereo-era LPs, it may have
been used on a third or even more. Who was the artist for Overture,
Overture (or was it various artists)? Maybe one of us have even seen that
one under a different cover.

I don't see any indication that these were promo copies or part of a
Living Stereo sampler set that might have assigned the same cover to all
LPs in the set. But that doesn't even make sense, as my Gunn is mono.

The big question: WHY?????


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popu
Date: 20 Jul 1999 18:30:06 EDT


The "lightning bolt" Gun was the first issue.  It was reissued with the
rectangles.  Also the More was issued with a red cover and a blue cover.  Got
this info from a Jerry Osborne book.

Why?????????  I can't help you there.

Gunn was also issued on an EP set which had the lightning bolt cover.

Question:  Who has heard Mancini's Peter Gunn movie soundtrack?  Is it worth
searching out?

Best wishes,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Weekend Finds
Date: 20 Jul 1999 23:36:36 +0100 (BST)



>
>        Mandingo 3 (What Can I say I have been looking for it for
>three years)
>
>    =09

I don't know if this has been discussed, but four Mandingo (are there are
only 4??!) have been reissued as twofers in the UK. I have the first two
which are AMAZING. I haven't bought the second one but will on the strength
of this. Very exotic, brassy, psych, tribal beat stuff. I can give more
details if the list isn't aware about this, but I think they are of high
interest to anyone into exotica.  And they are only =A38.99 over here - i.e.
dirt cheap.

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Subject: SV: (exotica) Alt. Peter Gunn (& 3 Suns) cover (was: Prima popu
Date: 21 Jul 1999 02:27:33 +0200




>The "lightning bolt" Gun was the first issue.  It was reissued with the =

>rectangles.  Also the More was issued with a red cover and a blue =
cover.  Got=20
>this info from a Jerry Osborne book.


My brain must have made a mistake. I thought that the first issue was a =
boringlooking Black and White cover containing a big photo of peter =
Gunn. Jazz LP looking

>Question:  Who has heard Mancini's Peter Gunn movie soundtrack?  Is it =
worth=20
>searching out?

Yup! Anyway I like it alot

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Evil Ames paranoia
Date: 20 Jul 1999 12:24:22 -0400


At 10:58 PM 7/19/99 -0500, recliner wrote:
>
>Help, I just became entranced by the cover photo of the Ames Brothers
>on "The Blend and the Beat".
>They are telling me that I will most definitely have troubled dreams
>with their evil grimaces playing a central role. What's with these guys?
>Their incredibly fake smiles and squinty eyes....

I don't know that particular photo but I do know the record where they're
standing on the surface of the moon and I can see your point.
But I think their evil grimaces have more to do with their general physical
resemblance to our conception of the devil than a reflection of their true
attitudes.
They look like devils but I'm not sure they are.
Then again, if you've ever heard Ed - on his own - singing "Yesterday", it
brings new meaning to the concept of regret.
I have another Ames Bros record that you might look for if you want to
assuage your fears.  "Sweet Seventeen".  They're not on the front cover but
there's a group shot of them singing on the back cover and they look like
sweet little angels... sort of.  Or the devil and his coven as young men.

I have a record of Ed doing all Bacharach-David covers.  It's actually
worth it but mostly so I could finally hear a vocal version of "Nikki"
which I had fallen in love with from an instrumental version by Vinnie Bell.
Anyway, there's a picture with Bacharach wearing an Ames Bros T-shirt.  Did
Burt once do arrangements for the little devils?
I get the feeling Burt sold his soul and this record was part of his payback.

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Date: 21 Jul 1999 08:39:02 -0400





Question:  Who has heard Mancini's Peter Gunn movie soundtrack?  Is it
worth
searching out?

Best wishes,
Larry


ANSWER:  Jane Fondle has it...and it's....*OK*..not GREAT..but worth it for
under $10.  As mentioned here I think within the week, GUNN NUMBER ONE has
the God-forsaken, A.W.F.U.L., as bad as "Dreamsville-lyrics" WORDS to
"Peter Gunn."
Something clever like "Bye-bye, bye....BABY."
I don't have it with me at work here...but I hope we can't blame Johnny
Mercer for them.  (He's great!)  But I dig the rest of the intstru-stuff on
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Subject: (exotica) Hipster references on Bullwinkle
Date: 21 Jul 1999 09:06:56 -0400 (EDT)



Glad to see the Bomp! list is so Bullwinkle-heavy!
Thought I'd share something amusing, to me anyway!
The episode of the "Ruby Yacht of Omar Kyam" has a few
hipster West Coast Beatnik Jazz references.  Somehow,
Bullwinkle and his plucky friend Rocky end up in a
jazz band...and references are made to solos and
Bullwinkle having an arrangment coming up,and the
songs "Running Wild" and "Four Brothers"!
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Subject: (exotica) Thee Great Sam Butera
Date: 21 Jul 1999 09:11:07 -0400 (EDT)


Wowzville!  I am so happy that Capitol included Sam
Butera on the "Wild, Cool and Swingin'" series!  In my
never-really-HO, he is as great a singer as
sax-man-I'd go as far as to say the has the vocal
chops of somebody like Joe Williams.  So much quality
and personality to both his playing and singing!  I
feel poor Sam doesn't really get his due when put up
against Louis Prima...but those are other big shoes!
The other nice thing about this comp is anytime I've
ever seen ol' Sam on vinyl, he's WWWAYYY expensive due
to the (former) swing-thing.
Jane Fondle

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Subject: (exotica) Fw: Alt. Peter Gunn
Date: 21 Jul 1999 10:50:10 -0400



-----Original Message-----


>Mark, thanks for posting the images.
>
>Fred's web page seems to be changing daily and the images I mentioned were
>removed.
>
>And from Jane:
>>GUNN NUMBER ONE has
>>the God-forsaken, A.W.F.U.L., as bad as "Dreamsville-lyrics" WORDS to
>>"Peter Gunn."
>>Something clever like "Bye-bye, bye....BABY."
>
>I don't think Gunn #1 has the lyric version and I don't have Gunn #2, but I
>do like the vocal of Peter Gunn Theme done by Sarah Vaughn on her Sings the
>Mancini Songbook. Sure the lyrics are corny, written by 2 people named
>Livingston and Evans, something about dropping a guy, but hey, it's Sarah!
>
>Domenic
>Martinis with Mancini WJUL
>>_________________________________________________________
>>
>-----
>
>>Hey, I don't know if you had already seen the two
>>Peter Gunn covers but I've got images of them up on my
>>site at http://317x.simplenet.com .  After entering,
>>click on "images" and then scroll down to Mancini.
>>
>>The site's not done yet so please pardon any errors.
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>
>>>    Link:      Mancini page of Fred West
>>>    URL:
>>> <http://home.wxs.nl/~fredwest/mancini.html>
>
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Subject: (exotica) Admin Test - please ignore
Date: 21 Jul 1999 08:30:18 -0600


Hi guys -- just tracking a strange bounce, please pay this no mind.

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Fw: Alt. Peter Gunn or Livingston, I presume
Date: 21 Jul 1999 10:36:05 -0400


>Sure the lyrics are corny, written by 2 people named Livingston and Evans,
something about dropping a guy, but hey, it's Sarah!

Aren't these the same guys that gave us "The Twizzle" on the Dick Van Dyke
Show?  For those who have not seen the show, the song is about a dance that
is a combination of the Twist and the Sizzle (a dance the protagonist made up).

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Subject: (exotica) Mai Tai in Ultra Lounge?
Date: 21 Jul 1999 08:23:08 -0700


Just curious, but is the Mai Tai listed as one of the cocktails in any of the
Ultra-Lounge CDs?

(I have 1/2 dozen of them, not listed in the ones I have).

Thanks,
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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 21 Jul 1999 09:41:05 -0600


What is exotica, is it just Hawaiian  music and goodies, like wout steenhuis
and the kon tikis, or can anyone join in


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Subject: RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 21 Jul 1999 16:49:03 +0100


        Is lalo schifrin exotica,
        are chaquito,
        is herp albert,
        is bacharach/david,
        is the harry roche constellation???

        Is chicago

        Bon Jovi

        Gershwin


        ?????

        AR


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Date: 21 Jul 1999 11:54:19 EDT


In a message dated 07/21/99 9:09:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Thought I'd share something amusing, to me anyway!
 The episode of the "Ruby Yacht of Omar Kyam"  >>

Hey Rocky!  Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat.  Nothing up my sleeve.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 21 Jul 1999 11:54:00 -0400 (EDT)


Please join in. List seems to be an ongoing
interpretation of what exotica is. Tomorrow I will
chime in about a 60's lp from Brazil, featuring a
garage band, sounding alternately like D. Allen &
Arrows/Shadows-Atlantics, fronted by a singing clown
and a chorus of children.

PS: what sort of thing is wout steenhuis (my pupal
Dutch can make out wood? stonehouse)?
--- Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]> wrote:

> What is exotica, is it just Hawaiian  music and
> goodies, like wout steenhuis
> and the kon tikis, or can anyone join in

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Let the Games Begin ! ! ! !
Date: 21 Jul 1999 11:57:35 EDT


In a message dated 07/21/99 11:42:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< What is exotica, is it just Hawaiian  music and goodies, like wout
steenhuis
 and the kon tikis, or can anyone join in >>


Andrew, you are getting ready to get an ear (or eye) full ! ! !

OK gang, get started !

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 21 Jul 1999 12:17:08 -0400


I know you are going to see a lot of other responses, but this is my =
take on
it: =20

        Is lalo schifrin exotica,
this is often called spy-jazz and lands somewhere in between exotica =
and
good old jazz
=20
        are chaquito,
maybe=20
        is herp albert,
kind of, more loungey, but certainly counts for some tropical flavor
    =09
        is bacharach/david,=20
very little bacharach, if any, is exotic

        is the harry roche constellation???
nope
        =20
        Is chicago
nope.  that is rock.  simple.

        Bon Jovi
no way. no how. no thanks.

        Gershwin
this is jazz, pure and simple


        ?????
try Martin Denny, Perez Prado, Arthur Lyman, and Yma Sumac for =
starters.
Then watch this list for more....

    =09
visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Hipster references on Bullwinkle
Date: 21 Jul 1999 12:17:47 -0400




Hey Rocky!  Watch me pull a rabbit outta my hat.  Nothing up my sleeve. =

Presto!

Time to get a new hat...


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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 21 Jul 1999 12:18:50 -0400 (EDT)


anyone recall who is the current keeper/URL of the
Exotica FAQ?

--- Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]> wrote:
...

>         Is chicago
no, chicago is/was a hairy cancer that ate up the
airwaves about twenty years ago.
>         Bon Jovi
Isn't that French for "good weed"?
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:46:33 +0100


        Aaah I understand now, so this list is for those who like
stuff which originates from the tropics, like holiday music, some kind of
list for, say those who like ................... Elvis's Blue Hawaii, or
perhaps the kind of Aloha Hawaii vinyl you see in flea-markets, or does it
stretch to more sophisticated flavours, or is Wout Steenhuis and the Kon
Tikis actually good, 'cos I'm Very much afraid I may have missed the point.

        I do however like Les Baxter quite a lot


        AR


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Subject: RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:53:09 +0100


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Date: 21 Jul 1999 13:14:56 -0400






I fully expect many insults for my earlier comments


>>>Not insults, just a dubious eye...Kids, is this guy an agent
provoceteur?
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
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>
>I fully expect many insults for my earlier comments


>I do however like Les Baxter quite a lot


Andrew,
I think your Les Baxter quote has helped pour "oil on the water" so don't
worry.

Domenic


BTW,
Got a chance to hear side 1 of "Skins" by Les Baxter. And he ain't kidding.
It's all drums! I don't think there were any other kind on instruments.   Or
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Date: 21 Jul 1999 13:26:29 -0400






 .
>
>And from Jane:
>>GUNN NUMBER ONE has
>>the God-forsaken, A.W.F.U.L., as bad as "Dreamsville-lyrics" WORDS to
>>"Peter Gunn."
>>Something clever like "Bye-bye, bye....BABY."
>
>I don't think Gunn #1 has the lyric version and I don't have Gunn #2, but
I
>do like the vocal of Peter Gunn Theme done by Sarah Vaughn on her Sings
the
>Mancini Songbook.


To paraphrase Ed whazzisname, "you are INCORRECT sir."  I have GUNN#1...the
vocal version is on there, and it indeed is 100%, pure, unmitigated
SCHLOCK!!!!!

Sure the lyrics are corny, written by 2 people named
>Livingston and Evans, something about dropping a guy, but hey, it's Sarah!
>
>Domenic
>Martinis with Mancini WJUL

Just cuz it's Sarah don't make it good neccesarily!  YEEESH!  Tony Bennett
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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Warped back to Earth
Date: 21 Jul 1999 13:44:16 -0500


Re: Warped back to Earth
> > [e-mail] wrote:
> > Can anyone tell me,  is all of Peter Thomas stuff like this?
>     thank heavens, NO ;-)
I was tempted to answer this myself but Johan has done so and
now I'm left to only add a second opinion. I'm totally with Johan on
this one!  I find this particular release almost unlistenable and
Peter Thomas is among my all time favourites...

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From: "Cary Pierce" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: phono preamp
Date: 21 Jul 1999 09:34:33 PDT


Here's a review of a relatively low cost phono pre-amp for any of us
low-end of the high-end types:

http://www.etown.com/buy/home/amps/articles/nadpp1mfa.html

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Subject: (exotica) Peter Gunn vocal
Date: 21 Jul 1999 18:45:38 +0100



There was also a single issued in the early 60's called Peter Gunn Locomotion,
a vocal version by Freddie Starr and the Midnighters, on UK Decca.    Dire.

Freddie Starr went on to be an outrageous comedian and TV star.  One of the
all time newspaper headlines here was "Freddie Starr ate my hamster".

Also, I just saw an obit for a duo The Grimaldis who died in an auto smash
in Florida in June.  They were a husband and wife multi-instrument music
act who ended up playing at circuses.  The husband played the banjo, and
it mentioned that he'd worked with banjo king Eddie Peabody, a guy
about whom Brian Phillips has a great quote....

Hugh


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Date: 21 Jul 1999 13:57:43 EDT


This list is for anyone who likes music outside of the current popular
mainstream.

Recent discussions have included: Henry Mancini, Chiano, Scott Walker, Phil
Bodner and The Brass Ring, Arthur Lymon, Jerry Goldsmith, Lalo Schifrin,
Disney records......

if you think it's cool bring it up.  someone on here will probably agree,,,

also recently there has been discussion on whether or not Stanley Turnetine,
Edmundo Ros, or Frank Chacksfield have made any good records.


Welcome,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 21 Jul 1999 14:16:17 -0400


<<BTW,
Got a chance to hear side 1 of "Skins" by Les Baxter. And he ain't =
kidding.
It's all drums! I don't think there were any other kind on instruments.   =
Or
was I just not listening?>>

No, you were listening - it is *All Drums* which can get on the nerves =
after a while.....BUT Side B has two great cuts, the last one appearing on =
the Baxter box set - the other one is a take on "Afrodesia" if I recall =
correctly......these DO have other instruments which makes 'em a lot more =
enjoyable.

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Taboo II
Date: 21 Jul 1999 14:21:08 -0400 (EDT)


Y'all probably know this but Taboo II was released domestic on CD.
Shrunken Head cover and all.

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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Fw: Alt. Peter Gunn
Date: 21 Jul 1999 15:35:52 -0400


Hi Jane,
Even though my show is called Martinis with Macini I am no Mancini expert.
So I've been checking out some sites. I haven't listened to Peter Gunn
through for over a year now and will tonight.

This is a link to the Mancini web page that has the Peter Gunn covers,
including 2 More Peter Gunn (PG)covers. (I gave the wrong one last time)

http://www.rudyscorner.com/mancini/mancini1.html


They mention that a vocal version of PG appears on Our Man In Hollywood, I
don't think I have that record.  And if it is on that record and I listenend
to it I might have to agree with you that it is schlock. I don't like
everything he has done.

Sarah's PG vocal version is very punchy and in the spirit of the original.
It's very short, under 2 minutes, any longer and it might get tireing.

Another question or comment. I don't like everything Sarah has done.  Does
anyone have the Brazillian Romances, I think that's the title, by Sarah
Vaughan? Bossa Nova with that Brazil 66 guy, I thought it would be a winner
and was dissapointed. Elevated expectations maybe. Have to try it again.

>
>To paraphrase Ed whazzisname, "you are INCORRECT sir."  I have GUNN#1...the
>vocal version is on there, and it indeed is 100%, pure, unmitigated
>SCHLOCK!!!!!
>
>Just cuz it's Sarah don't make it good neccesarily!  YEEESH!  Tony Bennett
>sings "The Impossible Dream," afterall!
>Jane Fondle, losing her lunch...




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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Taboo II
Date: 21 Jul 1999 14:36:31 -0400 (EDT)


Yes - speaking of, I like how they used the cover of
the Ralph Font Orchestra's Tabu, on Westminster, for a
Lyman CD release... it would have been more fun if
they'd  co-opted a Frazetta artwork ...

Speaking of, what about Molly Hatchet? Exo-tique?

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> Y'all probably know this but Taboo II was released
> domestic on CD.
> Shrunken Head cover and all.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Fw: Alt. Peter Gunn
Date: 21 Jul 1999 14:48:06 -0400


<<They mention that a vocal version of PG appears on Our Man In Hollywood>>=


No, the vocal's not on this LP..........it's a good album though - =
recommended.

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Date: 21 Jul 1999 14:56:22 -0400






<<They mention that a vocal version of PG appears on Our Man In Hollywood>>

No, the vocal's not on this LP..........it's a good album though -
recommended.

- Nate


>>>What is with me today?  I seem to be the only unkind person on this
list!
But....GUNN #1?  OUR MAN IN HOLLYWOOD?  C'MON!  Let's talk about the REAL
Mancini killer stuff!  What about COMBO?!??  What about THE BLUES AND THE
BEAT?  A TOUCH OF EVIL?  THE MANCINI TOUCH!  These records far outweigh in
their fab-density some of the stuff mentioned here lately!
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Date: 21 Jul 1999 15:55:08 EDT



In a message dated 7/21/99 3:01:00 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>THE BLUES AND THE
>BEAT?  A TOUCH OF EVIL?  THE MANCINI TOUCH!

Don't forget Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, Mr Lucky, Symphonic Soul, TV Cop Shows,
and the underrated OST from "10"..Jimmy Botticelli/"Jimmy's Easy" airs on
WMBR-FM 88.1 in Cambridge, MA at MIT on Tuesdays from 6-8am EST. It can be
heard in Real Time by downloading Real Audio and visiting www.wmbr.org
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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) ExotiFAQ
Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:15:49 -0500


Ben Waugh asked:

>anyone recall who is the current keeper/URL of the
>Exotica FAQ?

Erm, that would be me--though nothing has been added lately.

The FAQ was last spotted at these fine URLs:

http://homepages.munich.netsurf.de/Moritz.Reichelt/exofaq.html

http://www.tribute.dircon.co.uk/exfaq.htm

http://members.aol.com/Hifibliss/faq.htm

http://www.studio-nibble.com/lists/exotifaq.txt

cheers,

 --Ross

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Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:45:09 EDT


In a message dated 07/21/99 12:48:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<<  Elvis's Blue Hawaii, or
 perhaps the kind of Aloha Hawaii vinyl you see in flea-markets, >>

not really elvis, not really elvis at all.  and the hawaii stuff qualifies if
it does not involve a bunch of ukuleles.

you need to read the intro list.FAQ's.  run a search engine and it will
readily appear.

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Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:47:43 EDT


In a message dated 07/21/99 1:19:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20
[e-mail] writes:

<< I fully expect many insults for my earlier comments
=20
=20
 >>>Not insults, just a dubious eye...Kids, is this guy an agent
 provoceteur?
 Jane Fondle....on the case...cue crime jazz___here...
  >>

oh we would never make fun of a new members naivet=E9 --- at least not direc=
tly=20
to the list.  we prefer to make those comments in private mails  wink!

Elvis?????

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Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:49:21 EDT


In a message dated 07/21/99 1:24:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I think your Les Baxter quote has helped pour "oil on the water" so don't
 worry.
  >>


Now just who is this "Les Baxter" joker.  Was that the guy that Ted Night
played on the Mary Tyler Moore Show???

Just curious,

Tiki Bob


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Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:51:20 EDT


In a message dated 07/21/99 2:16:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< it is *All Drums* which can get on the nerves after a while.....BUT Side B
has two great cuts, the last one appearing on the Baxter box set - the other
one is a take on "Afrodesia" if I recall correctly......these DO have other
instruments which makes 'em a lot more enjoyable. >>

I think some would say this is jazz -- at least that bastar' in Cleveland.

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Subject: SV: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 02:17:58 +0200


Who is Les Baxter? Is he cool?

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In a message dated 7/21/99 8:22:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Who is Les Baxter? Is he cool?

 Magnus >>

I think he was a back up singer.  He may have been a "she" because I read
somewhere that Les was short for "Leslie".   Somewhere else I read "Les" was
short for 'Lesbo" and that he worked on a Vampire film or something.

Additionally, this Les guy supposed stalked some dude named Marty because
Marty came into his town one night and made a bunch of noises (supposedly
sounding like monkey noises) and woke everybody up.  It was in upstate New
York in an area famous for camping.  The camp ground Les owned (or was
visiting) was called "Tranquil Village".  I think they filmed part of the
movie "Dirty Dancing" there.

The situation supposedly got worse when Les' girl friend, Amy, left Les to
hang out with this Marty guy.  The two of them got drunk and that Amy girl
went thru town kind of yodeling while Marty made these freaking animal noises.

The final part of the story has Amy and Marty teaming up with some dude that
ran Elliot's Cement Mixer Company and dumping a whole load of cement on Les'
1951 Buick Special.

I guess the bad thing was that Les and Marty turned out to be friends which
had known each other for years and this incident ruined their friendship
forever.  Les ended up living with a bunch of poor people in Paris (Texas,
not France) and the Marty dude retired to Hawaii and opened a string of
restaurants (with a tiki or Chinese motif -- I can't remember).   He ended up
becoming partially disabled when a wall of fake lava fell on him at Don Ho's
stage in Honolulu.  He was helping long time friend "Ketch" Ketchamori (or
Ketchamoni or something like that) set up the stage with the new lava rock
motif.  The "Ketch" guy was actually killed and Don Ho stopped singing his
"Tiny Bubbles" song for about 6 months because "Ketch" was the one that
helped make the song famous -- by blowing bubbles believe it or not!

Sorry if the details of this are sketchy.  I saw it on an A & E Biography
about 6 months ago.

If any List members, new or old, would care to expound on this I know we
would all be grateful.

Regards,

Tiki Bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?
Date: 21 Jul 1999 23:09:00 EDT


In a message dated 7/21/99 5:17:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Yup, Listened to it again and I still dig it. Imagine if Herb Alpert had
>  decided to go Exocit....Sorta,...I guess. Sounds a lot like background
music
>
>  from B movies in the mid-late 60s.

OK, you said the magic words, "Alpert" and "Herb", but not in that order.
I'll definitely track down a copy somewhere.  It sounds great.

Thanks,
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Date: 21 Jul 1999 23:20:15 EDT


In a message dated 7/21/99 5:17:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Yup, Listened to it again and I still dig it. Imagine if Herb Alpert had
>  decided to go Exocit....Sorta,...I guess. Sounds a lot like background
music
>
>  from B movies in the mid-late 60s.

OK, you said the magic words, "Alpert" and "Herb", but not in that order.
I'll definitely track down a copy somewhere.  It sounds great.

Thanks,
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Subject: (exotica) San Fran gigs
Date: 22 Jul 1999 03:59:53 EDT


FREE!!
Today
Thursday July 22
6 - 10 pm
Academy of Art College
688 Sutter Street
775-8944
art opening for Elisa Cicinelli photographer
I provide the tunes and take requests

Advertising people take note! She did some portraits for BofA that were very
nice

FREE
Friday July 23
10 pm
Sideshow A Go-Go
@ CW Saloon
folsom just before 6th
last week was torture - really - Zamora the Torture King
(performed with the Jim Rose Circus at Lalapalooza)
was the main attraction while Circus Redickuless performers did intimate
backroom shows and Chicken John regaled the crowd throughout
I provide the tunes and don't take requests until it turns into dance music
after the main act (about 1 am)
expect more tricks this time around

say "Tiki News" at the door and get in for free

Saturday July 24
9 pm
$6.00
Jumbo Shrimp and The Inspectors perform
at the Hotel Utah
500 fourth Street

and
Thursday July 29
Jumbo Shrimp and Exotica band Ape
play Mick's Lounge
2513 Van Ness

Saturday July 31
The Devil-Ettes perform at
Da Da Festival
at Somar Gallery
behind Trader Joe's

I'm back at the Li Lo Lounge
Thursday, August 5
9 - close
18th and Connecticut
on Potrero Hill

Every Tuesday at the Beauty Bar
Mission at 19th
9 - last call
this week (July 27) will be a special show with Steve Mak & Karin spinning
Euro easy listening like United Future Organisation and Gentle People along
with classic stuff like Claudine Longet and tasty 60s soundtracks
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Subject: (exotica) Original comets live in SF
Date: 22 Jul 1999 03:59:45 EDT


Wed July 28
Blackboard Jungle

featuring the original Comets
(yes, of Bill Haley fame)

and Bud E Luv's
rock n Roll Orchestra

should be a rocking good time

Slim's
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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:44:55 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 04:45:52 -0600


MMMM I always thought that Les Baxter was an alternative moniker for The
Belle Stars, who had some hits in the early 1980's


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Subject: (exotica) Where is the CD-R FAQ's????
Date: 22 Jul 1999 07:32:25 EDT


Someone posted a site for FAQ's about CD-R's about 6 weeks ago.  It was a
really big site with lots (and I mean lots) of pages about CD burning.

Could that person please post the URL again?

Still on the up side of the CD burning learning curve,

Tiki Bob


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Date: 22 Jul 1999 07:55:46 EDT


In a message dated 7/22/99 4:11:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I think Tiki Bob has been sipping from a Mai tai laced with
 hallucinogenic love drugs


         AR
  >>

Actually I haven't but would love to try it!

I did substitute some wild mushrooms for the little umbrellas in my Mai Tais
a few years ago.

I call it My Ergotamine Mai Tai / Migraine Relieving / Psychogenic Cocktail.

After a few of these you wake up the next morning slightly paranoid
remembering the vivid colors but don't have a hangover.

Oh, and always remember:

Whiskey on beer -
Never fear.
Beer on whiskey -
Could be risky.
Prestone and Gin -
Think again.

And if you have to drink and drive, drive really fast!  That way you won't be
on the road as long.

Saused!

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Date: 22 Jul 1999 07:58:28 EDT


In a message dated 7/22/99 4:11:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I think Tiki Bob has been sipping from a Mai tai laced with
 hallucinogenic love drugs


         AR
  >>

Our new Mr. Edgar has been a good sport with our Exotica folly.  We welcome
him aboard this ramshackled ship of the musical (declined) bunch.

A tip of my Mai Tai to Mr. Edgar

Tiki Bob


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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 08:17:54 -0400 (EDT)



Close. He was, in fact, a he, an English guy, many of
whom have ambisexual names, such as Evelyn, Leslie,
Melinda, etc. He is a composer. Scored a film over
there in the 80s that starred US actor, Martin
Dennehy: Belly of an Anorak.

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> [e-mail] writes:

> << Who is Les Baxter? Is he cool?

> I think he was a back up singer.  He may have been a
> "she" because I read
 somewhere that Les was short for "Leslie".

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 08:27:52 -0400 (EDT)


I don'nt know about that, TB: Bill Black did play
theremin on a couple of E's early RCA singles - And if
you listen closely, over and over again, to Hunk a
Hunk o' Burnin Love, you will hear moog, celeste,
bongos and some guy muttering "Sonofsam" over and over
again, as though he were trying to send a message to
the Beatles.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Where is the CD-R FAQ's????
Date: 22 Jul 1999 14:58:46 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

> Someone posted a site for FAQ's about CD-R's about 6 weeks ago.  It was a
> really big site with lots (and I mean lots) of pages about CD burning.
> Could that person please post the URL again?

Was it me?
Was it this site:
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~abcomp/lp-cdr.htm ?

Don't burn your fingers!

Marco

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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: Thee Great Sam Butera
Date: 22 Jul 1999 08:59:26 -0400 (EDT)


Oh, man!  Where did you get this???  Do you know if
there will be any Boston dates, or how I can find out
about them?
Thanks ever so! Jane

--- "McGowan, Rob (SD-EX)" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Woo Hoo, Sam Butera!
>
> From the imusic BB, here is concert update for Sam
> Butera
>
> July 1-18 Helsinki, Finland (little late)
> July 23-August 3 Cleveland, Ohio area
> August 10- 15 NY, NY Hotel, Las Vegas
> August 26- 27 San Jose, Ca Venue TBA
> August 28 Bimbo's 365 Club, San Francisco
> Sept 6- 30 Mohegan Sun Casino, Norwich, CT
> Oct 8- 9 Tunica Casino, Tunica, Ms
> Oct 12- 17 NY, NY Hotel, Las Vegas
> Nov 9- 14 Peppermill Hotel, Reno Nv
> Nov 30- Dec 12 Casino Magic, Bossier City, LA
> Dec 14- 26 Orleans Hotel, Las Vegas.
>
> At the time of this update 6-16-99 several
> engagements were still pending.
>

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Homemade Instrument Day
Date: 22 Jul 1999 09:06:07 -0400 (EDT)


Lincoln Center is hosting a free outdoors festival of music and dance from
August 6-29.

One notable event is set for Saturday 8/14.
Take a look at:
http://www.harvestworks.org/lincolncenteroutdoors/homemadeinstruments.html

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: SV: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 15:12:56 +0200


Thanks tiki bob for this post! I have wondered soo long who he was, you =
guys always talk about him and he sounds cool. SO... are there any cool =
ultra lounge with this Las Buckter dude?

Magnus


>The final part of the story has Amy and Marty teaming up with some dude =
that=20
>ran Elliot's Cement Mixer Company=20

that was my uncle!

>and dumping a whole load of cement on Les'=20
>1951 Buick Special.

No wrong of me, it wasnt. Not at all. No relative of mine. Nope




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Homemade Instrument Day
Date: 22 Jul 1999 09:34:53 -0400 (EDT)


At 09:06 AM 7/22/99 -0400, I wrote:
>Lincoln Center is hosting a free outdoors festival of music and dance from
>August 6-29.
>
>One notable event is set for Saturday 8/14.
>Take a look at:
>http://www.harvestworks.org/lincolncenteroutdoors/homemadeInstruments.html

It turns out this URL is still under construction.

Here's the info I have:

INSTALLATIONS - hands-on experimental instrumental events
2pm-6pm South Plaza
JunkJam USA with Donald Knaack: Outrageous resort junk percussion
Toy Instrument Collage with Janet Koike: bring your own junk and join a toy
instrument jam
Traquitanas Musicais interactive MIDI installations
The Underwater Flying Machine - enter the Jules Verne world of Cheryl E.
Leonard and make music with fishes
Billie Lynn's Talking Tubes - geodesic conversations
Leslie Ross - barrelful of sound

WORKSHOP/PERFORMANCE/DEMONSTRATIONS
2pm-6pm North Plaza
The Car Horn Organ - 25 tuned car horns and Wendy Mae Chambers toot their
way to stardom
Multiple Corrugahorns, Magstrip, Chalumeau - more bells and whistles from
Bart Hopkin
Octatonic T-rodimba - busta tone with Tom Nunn
Bash the Trash Instrument Building Workshop with Carole Weber. Ever want to
play the garden hose trumpet?
Storytelling with Ben Jacobs
Drumming Robots - HAL meets Harmony with Chico MacMurtrie
Singing In The Rain - Paul DeMarinis' singing umbrellas
Ed Osborn's Language Master
Bob Bielecki's Air Sounds

PERFORMANCES
Josie Robertson Plaza
2pm Rhythmix - inspired international drumming
5pm Amorphic Robot Works - pneumatic song and dance

South Plaza
7pm Junkjam USA - join the Junkman (percussionist Donald Knaack) and some of
the world's top percussionists, including Arnie Lang, formerly of the NY
Philharmonic, Mauro Refosco of the Lounge Lizards, David Samuels of
Caribbean Jazz Project, and Harvey Sorgen of Hot Tuna in a not-to-be
forgotten percussion grand slam performed exclusively on juck and recycled
material.


The following day, Sunday August 15, is Cowboy Stampede: Poetry, Stories and
Songs of the Wild West.

-L




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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 15:29:32 +0100


This has cured my problem, but I am unfortunately stuck in Glasgow on a Hot
summers afternoon and I need some release from the captivity brought to me
by My fascist boss, like thoughts of whiling the time away listening to some
cool tropical sea lapping on the beach with some breezy tones of Astrud, or
Les in the not too great distance, making me think of nothing but
pleasure.......

But for now it's back to being chained to a keyboard, being an IT Manager
for a bunch of old square lawyers.


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Cheers

AR


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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:46:04 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 08:45:48 -0600



        >>>>>>>also recently there has been discussion on whether or
not Stanley Turrentine, Edmundo Ros, or Frank Chacksfield have made any good
records.

        Mr Turrentine certainly has made some good vinyl, not least
the excellent Common Touch, recently re-released on Blue Note, Other
Excellent vinyl includes-Don't Mess With Mr T both of these have some good
stuff, but also some real crap, his later stuff, on Fantasy is a pure
kutmusik!!!!!!!, in my humble opinion.

        I recently bought, a couple of LP's one The Snake, by El
Chicles, and the other Ritual By Nico Gomez, has any one else had exposure
to these, if not they certainly should make the effort

        Regards


AR


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Subject: (exotica) RE: Don't let them throw you
Date: 22 Jul 1999 10:53:58 +0100


        >>>>Except for Bon Jovi, Chicago and Gershwin,


        To be absolutely honest I was merely playing the devils
advocate by suggesting any of this COULD IN ANY WAY BE CONSIDERED anything
other than the most dire load of old cobblers in the history of music, and
please let me assure all other cats in the lounge that I have none of these
in my collection, well perhaps one Gershwin Record


        AR


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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: SV: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 12:05:03 +0100


        I think Tiki Bob has been sipping from a Mai tai laced with
hallucinogenic love drugs


        AR


        << Who is Les Baxter? Is he cool?

         Magnus >>

        I think he was a back up singer.  He may have been a "she"
because I read
        somewhere that Les was short for "Leslie".   Somewhere else
I read "Les" was
        short for 'Lesbo" and that he worked on a Vampire film or
something.

        >>>>Additionally, this Les guy supposed stalked some dude
named Marty because
        >>>>Marty came into his town one night and made a bunch of
noises (supposedly
        >>>>sounding like monkey noises) and woke everybody up.  It
was in upstate New
        >>>>York in an area famous for camping.  The camp ground Les
owned (or was
        >>>>visiting) was called "Tranquil Village".  I think they
filmed part of the
        >>>>movie "Dirty Dancing" there.




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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) swedish "wild thing"
Date: 22 Jul 1999 17:37:14 +0200


I found the swedish version of the senator everett mckinley version of =
"wild thing" (that was featured on the wawy grawy comp) today on a 7inch =
single.=20
Its from 1967 and the guys name is Clark Gaardestig.
On Hep House label. Ugliest sleeve i've seen.=20

Any "wild thing" collector on the list?

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 11:45:27 -0400


At 05:46 PM 7/21/99 +0100, Andrew Edgar wrote:
>
>        Aaah I understand now, so this list is for those who like
>stuff which originates from the tropics, like holiday music,

It's called the exotica list, that's all.
I think there are some parameters to the range of music discussed but not
one you could really put into words.
Maybe Ross could.
A lot of the music discussed is instrumental music and most of that music
was either made in the late fifties to late sixties or influenced by that
kind of music.
It might be somewhat more "accurate" if this were called the Space-Age BP
list but who cares what it's called as long as it's kind of very vaguely
clear what kind of stuff we talk about.
I wouldn't mind it if we changed the name to the Jack Diamond Memorial
mailing list.
And to me, exotica is not music that originates from the tropics.  It's a
VERSION of music that may have originated in the tropics.  It's an
exaggerated, bastardized version.  Exotica is "true" to the tropics in
approximately the same way that Hawaii Five-Oh was.
And if you're going to talk about Hawaii Five Oh, eventually you have to
talk about Sammy Davis Jr's version of the theme song with lyrics, "You can
count on me".
And if you're going to talk about Sammy, eventually you'll get to Scott
Walker and from there to Lee Hazelwood and Claudine Longet.

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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: SV: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 11:52:39 -0400


And if you have to drink and drive, drive really fast!  That way you =
won't
be=20
on the road as long.

And everyone knows, "The Faster you go, the Straighter you go" =20

visit=20
THE BRIMSTONES Eternal Surf and Garage Damnation=20
at http://www.brimstones.com
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Subject: (exotica) Ahhh I shouldnt try it!
Date: 22 Jul 1999 19:11:40 +0200




exotica poem



Its the lure from the unknown
catching fish

But I'm no fish, if i was i would think like one

Out of it. Dying, but still around

Reading everything i found on the south seas
Heyerdahl, Bengt Danielsson hey he lived on Tahiti
dreaming of a simplier life
and I was very young
12 or 13

Lots of aquariums at home

then trying to forget my dream
No choice

Drawing made me calm
When drawings bacame best
No thoughts
Disconnected

Still drawings

Seeing two movies a day for ten years
Understanding the beauty in
goofball directors

Then suddenly
Listening to movies
Also laughing

Coffy
The burmanese Tiger Fighting
Plan 9
The Trip
Freaks
etc

later

Finding Yma Sumac at a recordshop
She yelled mystery

Finding Arthur Lyman in London
Expensive man
But it was something...
Taboo

What did I care
I wanted to die

The south seas.=20
Once again... home?

Getting into computers
Amazed by Internet
Suddenly a search on
Lyman, or Sumac

Exotica?

Finding a site with recordcovers
Gulp!
They were for sale too!

Finding exotica list
Stupid questions
Wanting to learn
Surely a pain for some
surely still are

Still here

Finding new worlds through serious listening
But not yet leave
Begging to stay
Lots of things to do
and say
to myself
in my world
and Yours


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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:39:25 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 16:14:49 +0100


wout steenhuis and the kon tikis are, perhaps the most dire representation
of what exotica/lounge, weird and groovy music could be stretched to, it's
not that I dont like them , it is just not the type of thing you would want
people to know about, i.e. they are packed full of steel guitars, and that
type of thing, somewhat like pure tourist musicfrom the archipelago.


But not all that bad, just really cheesy.

AR

Ben Waugh wrote


>>>>>>>>>>PS: what sort of thing is wout steenhuis (my pupal
>>>>>>>>>>Dutch can make out wood? stonehouse)?


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:46:04 +0100
Date: 22 Jul 1999 13:43:57 -0400


>
>                 >>>>>>>also recently there has been discussion on whether or
> not Stanley Turrentine, Edmundo Ros, or Frank Chacksfield have made any good
> records.

Personally, I will gladly trade away the one or two Frank Chacksfield
LPs that have found their way into my collection.  But Edmundo Ros???
This is the man who released "Latin Love In"! While some of his releases
are better than others, I consider him among the better "exotica"
musicians, and I believe that he deserves a home in any exotica
collection.  But then, that's just my humble little opinion.

cheryl


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 19:44:40 +0100 (BST)


At 15:29 22/07/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>This has cured my problem, but I am unfortunately stuck in Glasgow on a Hot
>summers afternoon and I need some release from the captivity brought to me
>by My fascist boss, like thoughts of whiling the time away listening to some
>cool tropical sea lapping on the beach with some breezy tones of Astrud, or
>Les in the not too great distance, making me think of nothing but
>pleasure.......
>

List....

He's lying. It's only 65 degrees in Glasgow. It's not hot. Really. We can
just see the sun. He must be Glaswegian if he thinks it's hot. I've got my
windows shut....(and I've already personally responded to him) I just wanted
to make sure y'all don't think Glasgow is like the Sahara or something :)

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) studio 2 stereo
Date: 22 Jul 1999 14:50:30 EDT


I noticed alot of people on the list were talking about decca phase4's
does anybody have any opinions on EMI's studio 2 stereo range? eg. what's
your favourite? whats the worst one you have heard? favourite covers?etc
any response would be welcome as im a big fan of studio2's

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Halucinogenic Love Drugs
Date: 22 Jul 1999 14:49:15 -0400


><< Who is Les Baxter? Is he cool?
>
> Magnus >>
>
>I think he was a back up singer.

Thank you so much Tiki Bob for that most "illuminating" post--I will add a
FAQ entry about this Lefty Baxter directly.

Now was that CD-R page you were thinking about this one?

http://www.fadden.com/cdrfaq/

cheers,

 --Ross

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 15:20:51 -0400




List....

He's lying. It's only 65 degrees in Glasgow. It's not hot. Really. We can
just see the sun. He must be Glaswegian if he thinks it's hot. I've got my
windows shut....(and I've already personally responded to him) I just
wanted
to make sure y'all don't think Glasgow is like the Sahara or something :)
Jill "Mingo-go"


>>Aaahh, geeez, Jill, another missed opportunity!  Think of the list's
collective vision of you strolling across the desert, in a Barbara Eden
outfit!
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Subject: (exotica) RE: Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 13:40:38 -0500


Jane Fondle wrote:

>But....GUNN #1?  OUR MAN IN HOLLYWOOD?  C'MON!  Let's talk about >the
REAL Mancini killer stuff!  What about COMBO?!??  What about THE >BLUES
AND THE BEAT?  A TOUCH OF EVIL?  THE MANCINI TOUCH!  >These records far
outweigh in their fab-density some of the stuff mentioned here >lately!

>Jane Fondle-the Lonely Girl

I heartily concur.  Hank's greatest stuff, imo, was on those albums,
plus The Party, The Pink Panther, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Mr. Lucky &
Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, High Times, and the majority of his other
wonderful, genius-stamped work from the 60's.  I submit that "So Neat"
from High Times is a quintessential "cool" song.  It goes very nicely on
a breezy day with "A Cool Shade of Blue" from The Mancini Touch, driving
around with the top down on the convertible, sipping your favorite
libation, with your favorite love by your side.  Try it and tell me you
ain't grinnin'!

--

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Subject: Re: (exotica) What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 13:44:42 -0500


This is available as a double CD with Colors of Brazil.  It has a
kick-butt version of "A Felicidade" (AC Jobim from Black Orpheus) from
the Brazil portion, and my favorite from African Blue is "The Girl From
Uganda."  Definitely worth having, for my collection!

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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Past list discussions
Date: 22 Jul 1999 15:38:21 -0500


SLarry wrote:
> also recently there has been discussion on whether or not Stanley Turnetine,
> Edmundo Ros, or Frank Chacksfield have made any good records.
Haven't heard a Frank Chacksfield record I liked yet but Edundo Ros
has some great ones, matched only by Esquivel!  I think he even did
one with Caterina Valente...


Brian Karasick
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McGill University
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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Date: 22 Jul 1999 17:47:53 -0400


Celebrating the diversity on the list....

I found this CD in the cellar, in purgatory if you will, at a place called
Pitchfork Records in New Hampshire. According to the sticker its been their
since 4/17/98.

OST written by Tom Waits. Duets and solos with Crystal Gail. That guy in
Cleveland would say it's a jazz record because Jack Sheldon , Teddy Edwards
(?) on sax and Shelly Manne (!) are some of the musicians on the selections,
I would kinda agree,  some sections are very low-key jazz inspired
orchestral.  Some are duets with jazz trio, one with Waits on piano and Gail
on vocals. One solo Gail track almost sounds country with twangy guitar by
someone named Dennis Budimir. A funky tango. The more I listen the more I
like.

Their must be folks on the list who are into Tom Waits. I few days before I
found this I met a fellow who said Waits was a god. (He sounded like he may
have capitalized god, I won't)

I could get into Waits music. I have a few already.

My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gail. (we are anti C&W
but I must be straying, Jane: plan an intercession...) Have I gone too
far??????

My brown eyes are blue,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Date: 22 Jul 1999 17:03:56 -0400







OST written by Tom Waits. Duets and solos with Crystal Gail. That guy in
Cleveland would say it's a jazz record because Jack Sheldon , Teddy Edwards
(?) on sax and Shelly Manne (!) are some of the musicians on the
selections,
 I could get into Waits music. I have a few already.
My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gail. (we are anti C&W
but I must be straying, Jane: plan an intercession...) Have I gone too
far??????
My brown eyes are blue,
Domenic


>>Hell, no!  1.  I dig country as long as it's good, Hank Sr., Patsy Cline,
etc.
2. Tom Waits is truly an original!  And Crystal Gail, that record was done
WAY before she released any commercial schlock, I think.
Exotica=connection=to=Waits...the Oranj Symphonette guys play on Tom's new
rekkid, and I think on THE BLACK RIDER as well!
Thank God I'm A Country Girl-Jane Fondle

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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Crystal's eyes may be red with tears...
Date: 22 Jul 1999 17:18:05 -0400


...because her name is Crystal Gayle, not Gail.

I make this correction for those who may wish to seek out more of her
music, not as an "Ah kin spell more better'n you" post.

Small CG sidenote:  In Cheech & Chong's Next Movie, Cheech Marin peforms a
song called "Mexican-Americans", which has a line that goes something like
this:

"Mexican-Americans sometimes put contacts in their eyes,
To make their blue eyes look brown,
And don't it make my brown eyes blue?"

I know it doesn't rhyme.

Also for the mention of Waits, I actually had a class with a teacher named
Francis Thumm who was a friend of his and not only did the string
arrangements for some of Waits' albums, but also played with Harry
Partch.  Thumm can be seen in the film of one of Partch's last works, "The
Dreamer That Remains".

I love you all individually AND as a group,
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From: Nicola Battista <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) At the borders of reality... :) [OT]
Date: 23 Jul 1999 00:35:21 +0200


>which reminds me of talking to an italian person about some goo in an
>episode of star trek saying it looked like swarfega (a brand of industrial
>soap) and he looked kind of shocked. sounded like suor fica in italian
>(translation on request).

errrr... ;-DD

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Date: 22 Jul 1999 19:28:23 -0400 (EDT)


At 05:47 PM 7/22/99 -0400, Dom wrote:

>My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gayle. (we are anti C&W
>but I must be straying) Have I gone too far??????

Does being anti-C&W include being anti-Western Swing? How about when a guy
like Marty Robbins does an LP of Hawaiian tunes? Or when a guy like Tak
Shindo goes western? Or when C&W picks up on the Hawaiian lap steel and
integrates it so totally it's a country cliche now?

I guess one thing "our" music teaches is that it's hard to be a purist. And
that generalities fall over quickly if nudged. Make that 2 things ...

-Lou
(Now that you've listened to the One From The Heart OST, are you going to
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Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Date: 22 Jul 1999 19:37:06 -0400


 >Does being anti-C&W include being anti-Western Swing?

I don't actively seek out Country & Western, but I do like old Western
Swing.  Another fan of Western Swing was Lester Young!

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From: [e-mail] (bruce lenkei)
Subject: (exotica) found music!
Date: 22 Jul 1999 21:37:39 -0400 (EDT)


Well, it turns out that the 3 Suns disk I spotted was gone by the time I
got back to the record store. Ah well.

But on a happy note, here's a list of some albums I found in a box next to
a dumpster near my building recently:

Merengue! By Cugat!
Flamenco by Mario Escudero
Emotions, Featuring Richard Shores & His Orchestra
Street of Dreams, Jan Garber And His Orchestra
Music For Dining, The Melachrino Strings
Stanley Black And His Orchestra, South Of The Border
Dancing In Paris, Simonette And His Ensemble
Door Of Dreams, Joe Reisman And His Orchestra
Mantovini And His Orchestra....Play Tangos
Dancing at the Waldorf, Nat Brandwynne

Plus some Nat King Cole and Dinah Washington stuff.

A little on the schmaltzy side, but still fun to listen to.

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) studio 2 stereo
Date: 22 Jul 1999 23:08:19 EDT



In a message dated 7/22/99 2:54:16 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>any response would be welcome as im a big fan of studio2's

Its funny you should mention that. I believe the Sound Gallery compilations
are Studio 2 stuff (and to think I also collect vintage Studio 1 material).
But that's not what's funny. What IS funny is that I just ran across an
entire collection of British military marching type of music recently donated
to one of my fave local thriftys (the one at the JP church Jane) and much of
it was on Studio 2. It must have been a mighty diverse label...Jimmy


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) RE: Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 23:10:08 EDT



In a message dated 7/22/99 3:42:00 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I heartily concur.  Hank's greatest stuff, imo, was on those albums,
>plus The Party, The Pink Panther, Breakfast at Tiffany's, Mr. Lucky &
>Mr. Lucky Goes Latin, High Times, and the majority of his other
>wonderful, genius-stamped work from the 60's.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound like?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 23:11:27 EDT


It sounds like "After Bathing At Baxter's" There's my wise guy Baxter crack


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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Date: 23 Jul 1999 01:02:53 EDT



In a message dated 7/22/99 5:08:11 PM, you wrote:

<<My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gail. (we are anti C&W
but I must be straying, Jane: plan an intercession...) Have I gone too
far??????>>

I wonder what your wife would think of the bluegrass version (done totally
seriously) of the Velvet Underground's song "What Goes On". (I didn't get the
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Subject: Re: (exotica) found music!
Date: 23 Jul 1999 04:10:50 -0400


At 09:37 PM 7/22/99 -0400, bruce lenkei wrote:
>
>But on a happy note, here's a list of some albums I found in a box next to
>a dumpster near my building recently:
>
>Dancing at the Waldorf, Nat Brandwynne

Hmmm...  There was a fairly important klezmer bandleader named Naftali
Brandwein.  I wonder if Nat is the name he used for "whiter" recording
dates.  Nat is a popular pseudonym.
I don't suppose they mention anything about klezmer or "Nat's" curriculum
vitae on the record, do they?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Date: 23 Jul 1999 04:11:51 -0400


At 05:47 PM 7/22/99 Dom Ciccone wrote:
>
>Celebrating the diversity on the list....
>
>I found this CD in the cellar, in purgatory if you will, at a place called
>Pitchfork Records in New Hampshire. According to the sticker its been their
>since 4/17/98.
>
>OST written by Tom Waits. Duets and solos with Crystal Gail.

That's one of my long time favourite records.  This Francis Ford Coppola
film was basically a disaster financially and critically but I am one of
the few who loved it.  At the time anyway.
It was his twist on the idea of a musical.   Rather than having the actors
onscreen do the singing, the story is narrated by the "offscreen" songs.
Tom sings the man's point of view and Crystal the woman's.
The film was also very "stylized" so that it resembled an old fashioned
musical in other ways.

And as far as Crystal's presence on the record, at the time she was
basically known for being the younger sister of whatever country songbird
she's the younger sister of.  But I believe she'd done "Don't it make your
brown eyes blue" by that point too.  I always assumed she was chosen
because her smooth voice was such a contrast to Tom's lovely croak and so
it helped exaggerate the contrast between the character's points of view.
The couple, I think, were played by Frederic Forrest and Terri Garr.  I can
imagine Frederic Forrest singing something like Tom Waits.
And I'm pretty sure Nastassja Kinski was in it as the "other woman".

I think I'm going to have to rent it and see it again.

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Subject: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 11:45:59 +0200




Lou Smith wrote:

> Does being anti-C&W include being anti-Western Swing?
>
> I guess one thing "our" music teaches is that it's hard to be a purist. And
> that generalities fall over quickly if nudged. Make that 2 things ...

Completely agree. BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a little
discussion on that... Any suggestions?

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Needle replacements and vinyl needs
Date: 23 Jul 1999 07:18:02 EDT


Greetings Exotica List Members (and you know who you are!),

I thought I would pass along the name of a fellow who recently helped me get
a few needle replacements for those old Magnavox consoles I am always ranting
on.

His name is Craig Stepneski and he has The Record King in Hackensack NJ.  He
has been in the vinyl collecting/selling business for about 25 years.

I sent him an email after seeing his site at a search engine results.  He
emailed me back in no time and had the information on the (somewhat obscure)
needle replacements .

I later called him to place the order and was amazed about his knowledge and
resources to obtain needle replacements.   He made it sound like what he
didn't have he could get in no time.  And the whole time I am talking to him,
music is playing in the background and he is says once or twice, "Hold on.
I'm making some cassette copies."  Does this sound familiar????

Anyway, he seems like a great guy, takes charge cards for orders and was a
pleasure to deal with.  Knows all about my (our) man Denny and that make it
even better in my book.

I would (obviously) recommend him to others on the List who might need his
services.  I did not inquire about his vinyl offerings (bonk!) but that will
need to be explored in the future.

Some of his info is copied below.

Regards,

Robert

In a message dated 7/21/99 4:18:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Records123
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 And mail to:
 The Record King
 303 Main Street
 Hackensack, NJ  07601
 201-488-4232
 For credit card orders please click on the picture of Visa or Mastercard on
our homepage and follow instructions...or simply give us a call.
 Thanks,
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 http://member.aol.com/records123
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Subject: Re: (exotica) What does Les Baxter's African Blue album sound
Date: 23 Jul 1999 07:46:56 -0400


Is this CD still available????

>>> "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]> 07/22 2:44 PM >>>

This is available as a double CD with Colors of Brazil.  It has a
kick-butt version of "A Felicidade" (AC Jobim from Black Orpheus) from
the Brazil portion, and my favorite from African Blue is "The Girl From
Uganda."  Definitely worth having, for my collection!

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Subject: (exotica) exotic italy
Date: 23 Jul 1999 04:50:57 PDT


anyone heard of this....

*    V/A - Vroommm !! LP ( Plastic / Italy )
" High Performance 70's Turbo Sounds for sprint-exotic movie
     scenes ".........that's what it says on the cover !!

also finally heard the jazzanova remix of that morricone track done by
balanco (they have a new album out), must say i was very disappointed, they
used barely any of the vocals which i think were the best thing about the
track in the first place.
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) exotic italy
Date: 23 Jul 1999 08:22:20 -0400 (EDT)


Haven't heard of that one, but what about Quintetto
Vesuvio (60s - Vesuvius Records)? I was weeding my
collection the other night and put this one on to see
if it would join the other Salvation Army conscripts.
INot overly exotic, but fun - a few uhm, restaurant
sounding ballads & beat music - fast double picking on
some tracks. No accordian - an lead/rhythm guitar,
bass, drums, vocals.

--- Robert McKenna <[e-mail]> wrote:

> anyone heard of this....

> *    V/A - Vroommm !! LP ( Plastic / Italy )
> " High Performance 70's Turbo Sounds for
> sprint-exotic movie

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Subject: Re:(exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:03:09 -0400


 >Completely agree. BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a little
 >discussion on that... Any suggestions?

While I am not an expert on the subject, try to find the collection "Okeh
Western Swing", which includes Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, the Light
Crust Doughboys and the man with the name of dual racial horror, Spade Cooley.

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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:13:50 +0100


This all sounds pretty awful, this is supposed to be for exotica, not
mainstream C+W garbage, the next thing will be discussions on Kenny Rodgers,
then Rita Coolidge, Dwighht Yoakum, Then Garth Brookes.

Then I really will know  that I am in the wrong place.

Western Swing sounds like a load of smelly old shit, the absolute antithesis
of what exotica is, exotica is - hopefully that which is exotic (and by
listening to the discussion of recent days on the nature of exotica by
members herein, most would agree) and not a load of smelly old rednecks
going Yee-Ha

I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical, hardcore
electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or no
place in this forum.

Regards

AR

PS I'm sure that there are several other categories which I am sure should
also be included in an exclusion list.


 >Completely agree. BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a
little
 >discussion on that... Any suggestions?

While I am not an expert on the subject, try to find the collection "Okeh
Western Swing", which includes Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys, the Light
Crust Doughboys and the man with the name of dual racial horror, Spade
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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Finds
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:22:41 -0400 (EDT)


A lunch break trip to the Sal. Army the other day paid
off fairly well. Most of records were straight jazz,
all were in pristine condition (the parents must have
kept them out of reach of kids like me). The ones that
I will mention are:

Arthur Lyman: The Leis of Jazz. AL LPs seem to be
popping up everywhere these days. I've been looking
for this one for ages, mostly for the neat-o cover, I
will admit. It's actually an enjoyable record - no
bird calls, just vibraphone/marimba dominated jazz.
The last song on the 1st side, Autumn Leaves, is a
vocal sung by Ethel Azama.

Multi-Trax: America is Hard to Find/A Rock Opera
(1970). AKA Daniel Berrigan: anti-war activist,
hippie, ordained priest. Side 1 is an intro -
dedicating the record to "good freaks everywhere," and
several, uhm, poems. Though Fr B's heart was/is in the
right place, the lingo is a gas. Side 2 is the rock
opera. More Berrigan lyrics to conga, bongo, guitar,
etc. Some are fun: "America is Hard to Find" is read
with a powerfully exaggerated rural suthun accent
("Hod t' fan"). So on.

Obaile do Carequinha (SOM, SOCP 40.474 Stereo, Sao
Paolo, 1969): This one is interesting. Carequinha is a
slight clown, not quite a dwarf, yet likely not 5'6".
He sings in a squeaky pitch, backed by a chorus of
children (if I could knew Portugese, I might read that
the record is the ST to a children's morning
show...)on most of the songs. He is backed up by Os
Falcoes Reais. And they are fantastic. The cover
features them in matching red blazers, skinny red
ties, Beatle-do's on a couple - wielding an electric
single neck 12 string, a wedge bodied guitar and a
Farfisa organ, fronted by aforementioned clown and
seated youngsters. All tracks are either fuzzed out
garage rockers, or melodic Shadows-Atlantics "surf"
sounding. The last song on the record, The Millionaire
(perhaps the theme to the series... dunno), is an
echoey, melodic instrumental that I can only compare
to The Atlantics. This one is doing allot of time on
the turntable.

Of Os Falcoes Reais (something falcons?) I was only
able to decipher that they were formed from the youth
of the city of Barra Mansa in the State of Rio and
then "o mesme que atua em seus programes televisao."
(Same as something something  tv prgrams?). If we have
any Portugese speaking lurkers, I'll be happy to key
in text for translation.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:31:00 EDT


<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or no
 place in this forum. >>

My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica or not.  Usually, the
subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.

If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:34:02 +0100


Mmmm mr Politically Correct Strikes again




<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or no
 place in this forum. >>

My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica or not.  Usually, the

subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.

If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry, bud.








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Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:31:32 -0400



Andrew wrote:

> I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
> electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or
no
> place in this forum.

You've got it wrong. The Exotica List is the place for those with open
ears.

When I reach the point where I am about to write off an entire musical
genre, someone here will talk about some interesting
record/performer/musical style of which I have never heard. The world is a
big place and the musical possibilities are endless.

Allan

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Subject: (exotica) Tom Waits/VU-off topic
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:34:29 -0400






In a message dated 7/22/99 5:08:11 PM, you wrote:

<<My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gail. (we are anti
C&W
but I must be straying, Jane: plan an intercession...) Have I gone too
far??????>>

>>I wonder what your wife would think of the bluegrass version (done
totally
seriously) of the Velvet Underground's song "What Goes On". (I didn't get
the
name of the artist - sorry).

Well, Land-o-garshen!  I didn't think there would ever be mention of the
Velvets on this list...but I gotta pipe in since it relates...If anybody on
this list has the 5CD box set(the other "banana peel" cover)...there are
several takes of "All Tomorrow's Parties" that are tres-bluegrass!
Jane Fondle, wantin' some Louvin!


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Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:39:00 -0400






<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or
no
 place in this forum. >>
From the Hippest! >>My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica
or not.  Usually, the
subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.
If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry,
bud.
Yee Haw :)

That's why this BasicHipCat RULES!  I agree...plus, anybody who knows
anything about EXOTICA knows that its roots are in classical music, with
Ravel and Stravinsky!  So, it CERTAINLY has a place here.  Hardcore...well,
Throbbing Gristle helped launch an interest in at least the _covers_ with
their exotica spoofs!  County, hell ya', bring it on if it's cool!   FAR
EAST MEETS WEST..Tak Shindo, is BRILLIANT!  Rock...hell, the New York Dolls
do "Stranded in the Jungle"(a stretch, I know...but) Electronica...I think
FANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE and others who delve and dabble in it would take
exception...I know I do!
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:45:20 +0100



I Love to cause a furore







<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or
no
 place in this forum. >>
From the Hippest! >>My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica
or not.  Usually, the
subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.
If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry,
bud.
Yee Haw :)

That's why this BasicHipCat RULES!  I agree...plus, anybody who knows
anything about EXOTICA knows that its roots are in classical music, with
Ravel and Stravinsky!  So, it CERTAINLY has a place here.  Hardcore...well,
Throbbing Gristle helped launch an interest in at least the _covers_ with
their exotica spoofs!  County, hell ya', bring it on if it's cool!   FAR
EAST MEETS WEST..Tak Shindo, is BRILLIANT!  Rock...hell, the New York Dolls
do "Stranded in the Jungle"(a stretch, I know...but) Electronica...I think
FANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE and others who delve and dabble in it would take
exception...I know I do!
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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) WoW! Fun site!
Date: 23 Jul 1999 08:42:34 -0400


Check out the cartoon themes.......

http://soundamerica.com/

I just realized that my love of this "goofy/weird/non-mainstream.......exot=
ic!" music comes from all those great theme songs from the cartoons I =
watched as a kid.  Spiderman I've always *LOVED*, then there's Speed =
Racer, SuperFriends, Scooby Doo, etc.=20

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Subject: (exotica) Finds...
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:42:08 -0400


A quick hop to the Goodwill turned up a battered copy of Jimmy Smith's =
"Monster" on Verve - I guess the "Monster" in question is his huge organ =
that they show set-up in the recording studio???

Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised to find out that after I wiped off the =
mold (The cover looks like it was victim to a leaky basement) and grimaced =
at finding "feelable" and what seemed to be deep scratches throughout the =
vinyl - the damn thing actually plays decently and doesn't skip at all!!  =
Whoopee!

Had to hear this one since he covers Goldfinger and the Munsters theme =
song.  Fun stuff.

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:00:59 -0400 (EDT)




--- Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]> wrote:

Stunning. Almost as much fun as burping in
restaurants.
>
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Finds...
Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:01:01 -0400 (EDT)


Is this the same guy who did The Monster in the
Basement? - A man. A big organ. In the basement. Great
record.

--- Nathan Miner <[e-mail]> wrote:

> A quick hop to the Goodwill turned up a battered
> copy of Jimmy Smith's "Monster" on Verve - I guess
the "Monster" in question is his huge organ that
> they show set-up in the recording studio???


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Subject: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste
Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:13:01 +0100


Peter Hipwell has (is) lovingly compiling a Studio 2 Discography (and a
Phase 4 discography).  Here is the URL:
http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~petehip/home.html
I think it was his post about the pages that started the phase 4 thread,
that came back through studio 2 to the same place.  Indeed they are both
mighty diverse labels.  Mighty and  Diverse.  You would have to be a
complete completist to want the lot on either,  I wouldn't buy anything
on either label just because it was on the label.  But there are some
really great records on both.

I think my favourite Studio 2 release must be (something like) 'Norrie
Paramor plays the hits of Cliff Richard and the Shadows in a Latin
Style'.  But maybe it would be David Rose 'Holiday for Strings'.  I
don't know.  Depends on the time of day.

One more thing,  I've said it before, there is no-one on the list with
grounds for criticising anyone else on the list on the grounds of taste,
look what you've signed up to for Christ's sake.

Next thing you know he'll be calling Lou 'Doctor Death',  and then where
will we be...............


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Subject: (exotica) Riddle me this,Batman...?
Date: 23 Jul 1999 07:19:24 PDT


Hello,
  New York City has plenty o' groovy record stores, but it seems they price
their vinyl with "Goldmine", (or perhaps charge even more). Anyone know how
to deal with, (or rather, deal down), dinosaurs that are sitting on treasure
but charge twice their weight in gold? I found a guy that wants $50 for
Other Worlds, Other Sounds! Some places have great vinyl, but $25 for Leo
Addeo's "Stereo Action" lp seems appalling. Any clues?

Also, Anyone have Space Age Music for a Space Suite, (buy a guy who's last
name is Christian)?  Anythoughts on worth? Do you like the music, etc?

Thanks heaps

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:19:04 +0100



Saucy

Stunning. Almost as much fun as burping in
restaurants.
>
> I Love to cause a furore
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:39:13 -0500


>Queried  AlaMoRitz:
>> BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a little
>>discussion on that... Any suggestions?
>
>Bob Wills and His Texas Playboys are, IMHO, the only name you need to
>know. Buy his earlier stuff. He made recordings in his twilight years, and
>they're just sad. Look for 30s-40s recordings of San Antonio Rose and
>Faded Love, which Wills wrote, the instros Big Beaver and Steel Guitar
>Rag, plus Cherokee Maiden, My Window Faces the South, and Roly-Poly, a
>jumpin' song about a fat little boy's appetite: "Roly-Poly, Daddy's little
>fatty. Bet he's gonna be a man some day."
>
>Austin's own Don Walser is a fine guitarist and an amazing yodeler who
>occasionally slides into Western Swing, though he's more into cowboy songs
>and border tunes. An astonishing fiddler, Howard Kalish, played with him
>when he performed as Don Walser and the Pure Texas Band -- I dunno -- in
>the 80s? Walser's CDs on Watermelon Records are his best.
>
>Roy Benson and Asleep at the Wheel are doing their damnedest to keep
>Western Swing alive too. Funny, for a while every time I flew in and outta
>town, I'd see Benson and crew at the baggage carrousel. Like Walser,
>Benson moves into more straight-ahead C&W stuff.
>
>You know, to have the real  Western Swing experience, you gotta know how
>to do the Texas Two Step. Nothing like going to a Texas dance hall where
>everyone sweats and laughs under their cowboy hats and slams another
>Shiner Boch under their gigantic buckles, whoopin' it up on a Saturday
>night.
>
>Yeeeeeehaw!
>Mimi





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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:32:15 -0400







<<I Love to cause a furore<<

 A What??????







<< I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical,
hardcore
 electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little or
no
 place in this forum. >>
From the Hippest! >>My opinion has always been that anything goes, exotica
or not.  Usually, the
subject line gives a hint as to what the post is all about.
If it is of no interest, hit the delete key.  Please, no insisting that
suggestions for discussion have no place here, that ain't cool.  Threads
rarely last more than a couple of days, so if it ain't your bag, sorry,
bud.
Yee Haw :)

That's why this BasicHipCat RULES!  I agree...plus, anybody who knows
anything about EXOTICA knows that its roots are in classical music, with
Ravel and Stravinsky!  So, it CERTAINLY has a place here.  Hardcore...well,=

Throbbing Gristle helped launch an interest in at least the _covers_ with
their exotica spoofs!  County, hell ya', bring it on if it's cool!   FAR
EAST MEETS WEST..Tak Shindo, is BRILLIANT!  Rock...hell, the New York =
Dolls
do "Stranded in the Jungle"(a stretch, I know...but) Electronica...I think
FANTASTIC PLASTIC MACHINE and others who delve and dabble in it would take
exception...I know I do!
Jane Fondle-all miss thangs!









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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:31:06 +0100


Okay perhaps I should have said a hot office on a summers afternoon, we dont
have any air cond....

and there is a lot of hot air blowing around the place, mainly from lawyers
mouths

AR



>This has cured my problem, but I am unfortunately stuck in Glasgow on a Hot
>summers afternoon and I need some release from the captivity brought to me
>by My fascist boss, like thoughts of whiling the time away listening to
some
>cool tropical sea lapping on the beach with some breezy tones of Astrud, or
>Les in the not too great distance, making me think of nothing but
>pleasure.......
>

List....

>>>>>>>>He's lying. It's only 65 degrees in Glasgow. It's not hot. Really.
We can
>>>>>>>>just see the sun. He must be Glaswegian if he thinks it's hot. I've
got my
>>>>>>>>windows shut....(and I've already personally responded to him) I
just wanted
>>>>>>>>to make sure y'all don't think Glasgow is like the Sahara or
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Subject: (exotica) Radio, Help!
Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:34:34 -0400 (EDT)


Thanks to all you djs who have requested a copy of the
Astroslut album once it becomes available. It's still
not too late to get on the list!

But, to those of you whom are not djs, can you kindly
suggest to me a good radio station in your area to
which we should send the album?  Please reply
off-lists...
Smuch love!Jane Fondle

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:47:00 -0500


Now y'all just stop havin' a hizzy fit about that bullshit! Tell you what,
puttin' a stop to the whole kit-and-kaboodle we jaw about on the eXotica is
about as silly as tryin' to herd cats. You just can't do it, darlin'.

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Subject: RE: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste
Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:33:19 +0100





>>>>>>One more thing,  I've said it before, there is no-one on the list with
>>>>>>grounds for criticising anyone else on the list on the grounds of
taste,
>>>>>>look what you've signed up to for Christ's sake.

>>>>>>Next thing you know he'll be calling Lou 'Doctor Death',  and then
where
>>>>>>will we be...............


Lou who????

chill out.... dont take it all so seriously, it's like this


I like crap music


You Like crap music


We all like crap music.


if you dont like the word "crap" substitute "exotic"




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Subject: RE: (exotica) Where have all the good Mancinis gone?
Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:36:28 -0400 (EDT)


As far as mainly goes, I suppose we'll have to take
your word on that, pardner.

Anyway, it must be a cultural thing... Lawyers over
here are generally very reserved and unobtrusive. It
would break your heart.

--- Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]> wrote:


> and there is a lot of hot air blowing around the
> place, mainly from lawyers
> mouths

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Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Date: 23 Jul 1999 10:01:19 -0500


>Said Nat:
>>And I'm pretty sure Nastassja Kinski was in it as the "other woman".
>
>She was. I loved One from the Heart too. It's as stylized and over the top
>as Coppola's Bram Stoker's Dracula. Tom Waits does a heart-warming turn as
>the bug-eating screaming sniveling Renfield, crazed by his years as
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc
Date: 23 Jul 1999 16:07:38 +0100 (BST)



>>any response would be welcome as im a big fan of studio2's

>Its funny you should mention that. I believe the Sound Gallery compilations
>are Studio 2 stuff (and to think I also collect vintage Studio 1 material).
>But that's not what's funny. What IS funny is that I just ran across an
>entire collection of British military marching type of music recently donated
>to one of my fave local thriftys (the one at the JP church Jane) and much of
>it was on Studio 2. It must have been a mighty diverse label...Jimmy

Yeah, if you bought everything on it you'd be pretty disappointed indeed. The
Sound Gallery comps give a false impression of the label overall. The old Studio
2 compilations (which have been rereleased on CD - avoid!) often give an idea of
some of the range. They turn up frequently in the UK with names like 'Impact!',
'Sound Explosion!'(?), 'Breakthrough' and 'Constellation', and have only about
two playable tracks each. Basically the label was anything that wasn't pop/rock.

Decca Eclipse is less varied as far as I know, being mostly classical and more
relaxing stuff like Stanley Black (Cuban Moonlight, Tropical Moonlight etc),
Werner Muller's more gentle stuff etc. Decca Phase 4 is varied, being anything
recorded in high-fidelity and with colourful diagrams of the mixing desk on an
insert if you're lucky.

Music For Pleasure has another 'interesting' range. (Just got Alan Moorhouse
'Mancini, McCartney and Mendelson Go Marching' but haven't risked playing it
yet... 'Beatles, Bach and Bacharach Go Bossa' is quite nice though... )
It's another 'anything goes' label. Got one recently called 'Children
Talking'(?) which is interviews with small kids about where babies come from and
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Subject: (exotica) Mantovani/Chacksfield/Leferve/Ros/Aldritch/etc
Date: 23 Jul 1999 16:21:20 +0100 (BST)


> But on a happy note, here's a list of some albums I found in a box next to
> a dumpster near my building recently:

> Mantovini And His Orchestra....Play Tangos

err... are there any good Mantovani's? i've never dared listen to one so far,
although I bought my first (Mantovani/Hollywood) for the cover the other day.

What about the others? Frank Chacksfield always seemed drippy to me, and Ramond
Leferve just a bit dull. Talking of Leferve, his records were on Major Minor I
think, which is another schizophrenic label - The Isley Brothers 'It's Your
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc
Date: 23 Jul 1999 16:59:23 +0100



I have some very bad studio 2 records, some of which i ocasionally play,
just to keep me on the right track

AR




>>any response would be welcome as im a big fan of studio2's

>Its funny you should mention that. I believe the Sound Gallery compilations
>are Studio 2 stuff (and to think I also collect vintage Studio 1 material).
>But that's not what's funny. What IS funny is that I just ran across an
>entire collection of British military marching type of music recently
donated
>to one of my fave local thriftys (the one at the JP church Jane) and much
of
>it was on Studio 2. It must have been a mighty diverse label...Jimmy

Yeah, if you bought everything on it you'd be pretty disappointed indeed.
The
Sound Gallery comps give a false impression of the label overall. The old
Studio
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:58:01 -0600


On Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 02:13:50PM +0100, Andrew Edgar wrote:

> PS I'm sure that there are several other categories which I am sure should
> also be included in an exclusion list.

Insulting other members, posting flames for the sake of posting flames,
etc. are all definitely on the exclusion list.

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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Mai Tai in Ultra Lounge?
Date: 23 Jul 1999 13:13:47 -0400


Just checked the Mondo Exotica disk and no MaiTai's. The drinks: Zombie and
Blue Hawaiian.

Who has the new Tiki sampler?

The drinks usually fit a pattern and Mai Tai's on the Tiki sampler would
fit.



>
>Just curious, but is the Mai Tai listed as one of the cocktails in any of
the
>Ultra-Lounge CDs?
>
>(I have 1/2 dozen of them, not listed in the ones I have).
>
>Thanks,
>Kevin Crossman
>The Search for the Ultimate Mai Tai
>http://www.kevdo.com/maitai/
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo / Phase 4 / MFP etc
Date: 23 Jul 1999 09:18:22 -0700


I have to agree with the sentiment that Studio 2 is mostly dull - the few
albums I've come across (e.g., Mandingo, Harry Stoneham) that have more than
one good track are the exceptions indeed. Most of the "desirable" Studio 2
records have one killer track, and the rest is The Saccharine Strings sound.

However, even the really lousy S2 albums benefit from the amazing recording
techniques and sound great. When you want a dose of that lush British string
sound, Studio 2's your ticket. (Manuel of the Mountains!)

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Subject: (exotica) radio, help!
Date: 24 Jul 1999 00:26:16 +0000


Hi-
    I'm new to the list and I'm not even sure exactly what the Astroslut
Album is like, but there's a dj in Detroit at the public radio station
who might dig it, judging from it's name.  The station is WDET and the
jock's name is Martin Bandyke.  He seems to appreciate exotica, though
it's not a staple on his show.
Michael Zadoorian

Jane Fondle wrote:

> Thanks to all you djs who have requested a copy of the
> Astroslut album once it becomes available. It's still
> not too late to get on the list!
>
> But, to those of you whom are not djs, can you kindly
> suggest to me a good radio station in your area to
> which we should send the album?  Please reply
> off-lists...
> Smuch love!Jane Fondle



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Subject: (exotica) Test Card Classics......
Date: 23 Jul 1999 12:28:12 -0400


Anybody have this CD??

Apparently the BBC would play music behind the test patterns on the "tele" =
and this is a collection of those tunes...

Heard an excerpt on Retro Cocktail Hour.

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Subject: (exotica) peter thomas soundtrack for "uncle tom's cabin"
Date: 23 Jul 1999 19:04:02 +0200


anyone heard peter thomas soundtrack for "uncle tom's cabin" (on Bear
family)? i can hardly imagine this being any good, but you never know with
mister PT...

        Johan


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Subject: (exotica) Re: El Chicles
Date: 23 Jul 1999 16:36:16 +0200


At 09:53 -0600 99/07/22, Andrew Edgar wrote:

>        I recently bought, a couple of LP's one The Snake, by El
>Chicles,

    hark! that's a Belgian band (i think...)
    there was a recent release "The Best Of" on
    Selection Club that i can't find anywhere...

        Johan


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Date: 23 Jul 1999 13:14:48 EDT



In a message dated 7/23/99 12:18:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>However, even the really lousy S2 albums benefit from the amazing recording
>techniques and sound great.

To say nothing of the covers. Even the military marching bands and Scottish
kilt fellas' bands have covers that look brand spankin' new. If nothing else,
Studio 2 provides excellent wall art. The Brits sure knew how to make a great
and lasting LP cover. And they DO know what's best about American
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Date: 23 Jul 1999 13:15:54 EDT



In a message dated 7/23/99 12:27:26 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Anybody have this CD??

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo
Date: 23 Jul 1999 13:30:16 -0400 (EDT)


Yes (and the Germans, etc). The Charley and Ace
lables, for instance. Johhny Carroll, Charlie
Feathers, Screamin' Jay Hawkins. A comment on our
character (at least as it stood in the 70s) perhaps
that we have to import the best of our own music.


 And they DO know what's best
> about American
> music....Jimmy Botticelli
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Subject: (exotica) Test Card Classics......
Date: 23 Jul 1999 13:34:19 -0400 (EDT)



Hello Nate

I have 2 volumes on Flyback /Chandos and 2 more Volumes on Apollo.   This has been
posted to the list a few times.  There is a whole test card web ring that even has
reviews of the cds.   This is really nice music for background music.  Lots of obscure
eastern European bands.  Like Jimmy, I'm not blown away by this but it is preety
interesting.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
Chuck


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Date: 23 Jul 1999 13:38:13 -0400








Hi-
    I'm new to the list and I'm not even sure exactly what the Astroslut
Album is like, but there's a dj in Detroit at the public radio station
who might dig it, judging from it's name.  The station is WDET and the
jock's name is Martin Bandyke.  He seems to appreciate exotica, though
it's not a staple on his show.
Michael Zadoorian

Jane Fondle wrote:


Welcome, and thankyou!  See what good karma can do, folks?  Isn't nice...to
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 13:42:22 -0400


 >Western Swing sounds like a load of smelly old shit, the absolute antithesis
 >of what exotica is, exotica is - hopefully that which is exotic (and by
.listening to the discussion of recent days on the nature of exotica by
 >members herein, most would agree) and not a load of smelly old rednecks
 >going Yee-Ha

Well, chacour a son gout, I suppose.  There are plenty of things discussed
on this list that I don't care to listen to, so I don't comment on
them.  Granted, Martin Denny and Bob Wills are not necessarily mentioned in
the same breath, but if you look at the back of Exotica, they call Denny's
music "Jazz" and let's face it, Western Swing is a type of Jazz as well.  I
find it most fascinating to find the connections because the differences
are so easily seen.  Is Western Swing music Exotica? No.  Is it a form of
music that is a light into a culture that is different from my own, with
some roots in same culture?  Yes.  While the term "Exotic" is by
definition, "Foreign", the C&W side of Western Swing is in a small sense,
exotic.

But I see that you may not run out and find the collection that I
suggested.  That's fine, too.  Get Delerium in Hi-Fi by Andre Popp.  I
recommend it (I found it for three bucks!) and it is not the least bit
Garth Brooks-ian or Crystal Gayle-esque (artists, if you must know, I don't
care for and own no music by)

By the way, if you could see the fellow that is posting this, you would see
a fellow that would rather not deal with smelly old rednecks, however, I
found that not all rednecks are racists.  Some are quite nice, perhaps
nicer than myself.  I had to rethink how I listened to music, for the same
voices that I had heard on old films talk about who they did and didn't
want in their schools, were then singing with the same accents and
therefore I had a visceral reaction to any C&W because of it.  When I got
past that, I found some songs that I liked but I still cannot call myself a
fan of the genre.

In conclusion, sorry you didn't dig the post, but if you really don't,
e-mail me privately (that goes for everyone) and we can hash it out away
from everyone else.  This list does indeed take some twists and turns, but
to paraphrase an old Calypso song it usually is fun to jump into the saddle
and hold onto the bridle.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 19:52:05 +0200


Welcome to the Exclusica mailing list!

Andrew Edgar wrote:

> This all sounds pretty awful, this is supposed to be for exotica, not
> mainstream C+W garbage, the next thing will be discussions on Kenny Rod=
gers,
> then Rita Coolidge, Dwighht Yoakum, Then Garth Brookes.
>
> Then I really will know  that I am in the wrong place.
>
> (...)(and by
> listening to the discussion of recent days on the nature of exotica by
> members herein, most would agree)

> I hope that no one will disagre when I say that Country, Classical, har=
dcore
> electronica, or Rock (with several noticeable exceptions) have little o=
r no
> place in this forum.
>
> PS I'm sure that there are several other categories which I am sure sho=
uld
> also be included in an exclusion list.

I thought we're long over this kind of dramatization of the "right" way. =
Sounds
frightening.

I think I have posted enough all-to-exotica-related comments, to have the=
 right
to ask for names of some off-topic musicians, without having to subscribe=
 to a
Western Swing list first.

Go ahead, Andrew, make your list of what's not to be done. BTW: Where hav=
e you
been during the daily discussion on Tom Waits? Could be funny to read you
proving that Tom Waits is more exotic than Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys.

Thanks to those who gave me tips about the subject anyway. Bob Wills and =
Lefty
Frizzell are all I know so far; seems they're the best of it already. I t=
hought
there is loads of stuff like that out there. I think, and I state it here=
: Bob
Wills is one of the great song-writers of all times.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotiquarium album cover art book
Date: 23 Jul 1999 19:52:25 +0200


Mark wrote:

 I received my copy of "Exotiquarium: Album Art from
the Space Age" by Jennifer McKnight-Trontz today.  I
haven't had a chance to read much of the text but at
first glance, the quality of the images is a little
disappointing.  There is a noticeable glare on many
and several of the images are poorly cropped
(especially Ferrante & Teicher's Blast Off!).
Amazingly, one of the most famous space age album
cover images, Les Baxter's Space Escapades, is nowhere
to be found!

---

Does this have anything to do with Johan Dada Vis? Johan, are you still
out there? The e-mail-address from your website seems to be out of
work...


Mo




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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) OST One From the Heart by Tom Waits
Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:17:42 -0400



>>My wife said I was "weird" for listening to Crystal Gayle. (we are anti
C&W
>>but I must be straying) Have I gone too far??????

In defense of my wife, I think she was just in a state of shock to find m=
e
listening to something with Crystal Gayle.

>I guess one thing "our" music teaches is that it's hard to be a purist. =
And
>that generalities fall over quickly if nudged. Make that 2 things ...
>

But like Lou says we gotta stop being purists and open up. This weekend t=
he
radio station I'm on is broadcasting part of the Lowell Folk Festival. I'=
m
going to go help out and listen!  Now I'll tell you, I can't get into fol=
k
music. But I'm going to give it a try. Looking forward to seeing this Bri=
an
Marshall & his Tex-Slavik Playboys. Its a, get this, Texas Polka band. Yo=
u
learn something new every day. According to the Boston Globe there were
Polish settlements in Texas back in the 1850's and it's closer to the
old-country stuff that Chicago polka.


>(Now that you've listened to the One From The Heart OST, are you going t=
o
>seek out the video?)

I've been meaning to see this movie since it came out. My sister just got=
 a
job at a video store and will have to do it!

=46rom Nat:
>And I'm pretty sure Nastassja Kinski was in it as the "other woman".

People on the list also like the same kind of movies, now guys, what abou=
t
the same kind of actresses?
I would call Nastassja Kinski exotic.... Meow!

Domenic
=93Martinis With Mancini" broadcasting Friday's from 6-9 AM.
WJUL 91.5, Lowell Massachusetts.
The Show=92s web page: http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Booth/8007/
7/23/99 playlist

Like Someone in Love, Bjork
Bachelor In Paradise, Henry Mancini (Our Man In Hollywood) (LP)
At Last Glenn Miller (LP)
Opus One, Tommy Dorsey
I Could Have Danced All Night, Les Brown (LP)
Tangerine, Dave Brubeck
In The Land Of Hi-Fi, George Auld (LP)
One for Ken, Paul Combs
Nica=92s Dream, Hatrack Gallagher
King Of the Road, Les and Larry Elgart (LP)
Molten Swing, OST Kansas City
The Very Thought Of You, Billie Holliday
Mr. Lucky, Jimmy and Marion McPartland (LP)
You=92d be so Nice To Come Home To, Ben Webster, Coleman Hawkins
Summertime, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong
Autumn Leaves, All That Jazz (The group All That Jazz is a trio from Conc=
ord
NH. Kids ages 14, 16, and 17)
Little Boy Blue, OST One From The Heart, Tom Waits
I=92m The Lonesomest Gal In Town Kay Starr
Sorta Blue, OST Peter Gunn (LP)
Boogie For A Nickel, Bob Keene
Thunderball, Percy Faith (LP)
Don=92t Fence Me In, Bing Crosby and The Andrew Sisters
Black Coffee, Peggy Lee
One Note Samba, Marco Ritzmo
Wave, Antonio Carlos Jobim
Wonderland By Night, Xavier Cugat
Frensi, Perez Prado
The Cat, Henry Mancini, (Big Band 67) (LP)
A Rockin=92 Good Way, Dinah Washington/Brook Benton
Hot Weather Blues, Love Dogs
John Keating, The Shadow Of Your Smile
It=92s Oh So Quiet, Bjork
Begin The Beguine, Bob Keene
Main Title, OST Star Trek First Trek
You Stepped Out Of A Dream, Pete Rugolo
Takes Two To Tango, Ray Charles, Betty Carter
Something Cool, June Christy
Swahili, Bob Keene, Jungle Jive
Miserlou, The Lively Ones, Surf Monsters
It Had Better Be Tonight, Seks Bomba
Rock Gently Alvino Rey
I Get A Kick Out Of You, Felix Slatkin
Granada, Esquivel
Sat Night on Saturn, Les Baxter
5 Months, 2 Weeks, 2 Days, Louis Prima
Sloppy Shopping, Four Piece Suit
Fried Bananas, Benny Golson
The Tango, ,OST One from the Heart, Tom Waits
The Millionaire=92s Holiday, Combustible Edison
The Asteroid Field, The Evil Genius Orchestra, Cocktails in the Cantina
Moon River Cha-Cha, OST Breakfast at Tiffany=92s






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From: Michael Zadoorian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 24 Jul 1999 00:42:48 +0000


 Has anyone read "Lone Star Swing" by Duncan McLean?  It's a pretty
interesting
> book about a Scot travelling around Texas in search of authentic
Western
> Swing.  He doesn't find a whole heck of a lot of it, but it's an
interesting
> book.  He even talks to some of the orignial Texas Playboys (some of
whom have
> since passed.)
> Michael Zadoorian
>

 Mimi Mayer wrote:
>
> > >Queried  AlaMoRitz:
> > >> BTW: I LOVE Western Swing. We should really open a little
> > >>discussion on that... Any suggestions?
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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Jungle Comp...
Date: 23 Jul 1999 13:51:52 -0400





Anybody have a comp. (I think) put out by Del Fi called something like
"Jungle Jive?"  It's all instros.....

Good?

- Nate

I have it and like it. It's not all instrumentals. I would say it's mostly
vocals.

"Woman needs Man" sounds like the Chickmunks have gone calypso native.
Singing "yes we have no bananas" in their somewhere.

I flipped when I first heard "On the Ginza" on Jimmy's Easy.
Thunderstorm/rain background and some sexy chick talkin' in what sounds
Japanese.  wow.

"Rum and Coca Cola is also a calypso vocal.

Swahili:by Bob Keen has bird calls in the intro and occasionally, over the
flute, a bass voice talking in a foreign language.

And since it's on Del-fi... a few surfish tracks. Still with vocals!


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Riddle me this,Batman...?
Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:08:58 -0400 (EDT)


Albert Fish wrote:
>New York City has plenty o' groovy record stores, but >it seems....Anyone know how to deal with, (or rather, >deal down), dinosaurs that are sitting on treasure
>but charge twice their weight in gold?

I would recommend taking a trip down to Philadelphia, or even just to Jersey to check out the Princeton Record Exchange.  They are online at prex.com

I love to browse, but almost all my bargains in the city have been on CD or on less well known records at thrift stores or flea markets.  Vinyl is generally overpriced in stores.

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Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:21:58 -0400






Albert Fish wrote:
>New York City has plenty o' groovy record stores, but >it seems....Anyone
know how to deal with, (or rather, >deal down), dinosaurs that are sitting
on treasure
>but charge twice their weight in gold?

I would recommend taking a trip down to Philadelphia, or even just to
Jersey to check out the Princeton Record Exchange.  They are online at
prex.com

I love to browse, but almost all my bargains in the city have been on CD or
on less well known records at thrift stores or flea markets.  Vinyl is
generally overpriced in stores.

regds, Jonny

>>>Or, do what I did...which was blow my wad(goodness!) at Other
Music....before I could even GET to Footlight.  But, Other Music's prices
weren't too bad...I did just get CDs...but the prices were:
1.  NYMPHOMANIA $11
2.  SCOTT WALKER-TILL THE BAND COMES IN $12
3.  SERGE GAINSBOURG-ROCK AROUND THE BUNKER $15...
standard prices, if not cheaper, for anywhere in the US, but especially NY!
Happy Huntin'-Jane Fondle
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Subject: (exotica) it's clobberin' time
Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:25:52 -0400


Oh sure, go ape when my back is turned.

Another round of the "what is exotica?" question? Oh dear. Well, the links to the FAQs have already aired. But I'll throw in my two ducats...

"Exotica" is used in different senses around here. In its strict definition -- and boiled down very briefly, Exotica is mood music incorporating elements evoking non-European/North American regions.

However, the list itself has a much wider scope, following our collective curiosity for unknown music wherever it may lead.

Perhaps a selective quote from Lazlo's "welcome to the list" letter is in order (presuming Lazlo doesn't mind (it's worth the emphasis, it seems)):
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
The Exotica mailing list is a forum for people interested in unusual
music, primarily that from the 1950s and 1960s. There is no hard and fast
definition of "Exotica" as the distinction is primarily in the eye (and
ear!) of the collector. Just keep in mind that the primary focus of this
mailing list is the *unusual*. ... If you're still not sure what the list is
about, lurk for a week or two and see what's happening.
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

This is not to say that everything discussed on the list is exotica itself. It just happens to be the name of the list (and the strict genre is one of the core elements of interest).

The core lesson I have taken from (or had emphasized by) the list is to listen to ANYthing with open ears and without prejudice. Even if I don't actually like it, I may learn something from it. And as Brian has said, following the unlikely connections can be very illuminating. And hey, someone in north-eastern Asia may find rural North American music to be very exotic. As has been pointed out here long ago, "what is exotic" depends largely on point of view. For someone living in Bali, gamelan isn't the least bit exotic. Exclusions simply do not fit our free-ranging explorer agenda. And if one wants to throw around flame-bait for its own sake, some kiddy-punk newsgroup would be a much better forum.

Two more items...

Johan? Did you ever get any response out of those people who, er, appropriated your word "Exotiquarium" for their book?

An additional item to add to the 'secret history' of Les Baxter: Don't forget, he owned the building where the Fantastic Four lived.

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Velvet Underground and other Piles of Shit
Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:56:43 -0400 (EDT)


As far as bluegrass versions of VU tunes, it doesn't surprise me.  They
could be as folky as they could heavy.  REM does a bunch of VERY folky
VU covers, which I had no idea.

And besides, a lesson we've learned a billion and one times on this
list, a good tune transcends all genres, arrangable in any style.
Witness Caravan.

As for anyone anywhere dissing anybody (except, I suppose Celene Dion
:) )as a pile of shit, I really don't think this is the list for you.

This list, like the other lists I am part of, is exceptional, only
because it leaps librarian-driven category boundaries, drawing links
between all sorts of music.

Besides, I've had to sit through lengthy discussions of Soft Pop, Humpa
music and Lee Hazelwood, none of which interests me particularly, none
of which could be said to be Exotica in the narrow definition, but none
of which I minded, because it was obviously important to some of the
wide-minded, friendly and exceptional individuals on the list.  Which
means that probably, it ought to be important to me.

I'm more than willing to learn a bit more about Bob Willis and the
Texas Playboys, especially if they've wrangled a version of Caravan. Or
maybe Diga Diga Doo.  :)


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Subject: (exotica) CW Saloon tonight
Date: 23 Jul 1999 15:47:54 EDT


sorry about those directions

the CW is on Folsom near 5th
betw 5 & 6

not before 6th



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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 21:11:34 +0100



Mention must be made of the group Run CnW, who made
two excellent CD's earlier this decade:
'Into the twangy first century'  and
'Row vs Wade'

The group - all studio players - play bluegrass versions of
soul and motown songs...   Stunningly.

Perhaps not exotica, but certainly exotic...

Hugh.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......
Date: 23 Jul 1999 16:46:41 -0400


Chuck:

Incredible - a whole web ring eh???

The mind boggles.........soon we'll be asking "Well, NOW what's left to =
listen to??"

(I'm still waiting for all of those drive-in snack bar ad music accompanime=
nts - I know one of them is David Rose's "Gay Spirits."  There's a project =
for somebody - to watch all these old ads and try to get the music.  =
Actually, some of the most original (in every sense of the word) fun music =
was for the Sprite ads.  Very jazzy and catchy tunes to go along with =
equally entertaining animation.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......
Date: 23 Jul 1999 16:47:39 -0400


Chuck:

Incredible - a whole web ring eh???

The mind boggles.........soon we'll be asking "Well, NOW what's left to =
listen to??"

(I'm still waiting for all of those drive-in snack bar ad music accompanime=
nts - I know one of them is David Rose's "Gay Spirits."  There's a project =
for somebody - to watch all these old ads and try to get the music.  =
Actually, some of the most original (in every sense of the word) fun music =
was for the Sprite ads.  Very jazzy and catchy tunes to go along with =
equally entertaining animation.

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Date: 23 Jul 1999 16:45:11 -0400


mimi, write me, momma!
Jane Fondle-apologies to rest of exotica
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From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 14:38:38 -0700


Ignorance on parade:

>Western Swing sounds like a load of smelly old shit, the absolute
>antithesis of what exotica is, exotica is - hopefully that which
>is exotic and not a load of smelly old rednecks going Yee-Ha

I defy you to listen to Speedy West and Jimmy Bryant and not
say that it is every bit as exotic as Esquivel and the Three
Suns. Any genre that embraces yodelling, spacey pedal steel
guitars, jazzy accordian solos and electrified mandolins is
going to be exotic. No way around it.

Judging all country music by Garth Brooks is like judging
all rock music by Vanilla Ice, or all classical music by
Zamphir master of the pan flute.

In short... Your ignorance is showing.

Western Swing is one of my passions. If anyone is looking
into this area, here are some good CDs to be on the lookout
for...

*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#

Stratosphere Boogie: The Flaming Guitars of
Speedy West and Jimmy Bryant (Razor & Tie)

     This is the most aggressively *weird* music in the
     genre. Crazy pedal steel swoops and jazzy guitar
     picking. This is the perfect introduction to someone
     who likes their music loopy and cartoony.

*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#

Smile & Jive: Kings of Western Swing: 2 vols
(Charly)

     Good introduction to the genre. Nothing particularly
     obscure, but a good solid selection. Another good
     one like this is the Fremeaux and Associates collection
     titled Western Swing: Texas 1928-1944.

*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#

Hillbilly Boogie (Columbia)

     Great collection of stuff you can't get anywhere
     else but on this collection. I wish they would
     release more of this little known stuff. The liner
     notes on this release are fun too.

*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#

Bob Wills & his Texas Playboys: Tiffany
Transcriptions: 10 vols (Rhino/ Kaleidoscope)

     If there is a bible of Western Swing, this is
     it. These radio transcriptions are excellent live
     performances captured in crystal clear sound. I
     can't imagine anyone not liking this stuff. The
     Rhino two disc Anthology is great too, focusing
     more on studio recordings.

     Bob Wills is one of those amazing people like Cab
     Calloway, Prez Prado, Louis Jordan, Frank Sinatra and
     Fats Waller. Nothing he did was ever without merit.
     Even sitting in a wheelchair fixing to die, Bob could
     rustle up some swing. I noticed someone mention the
     Longhorn and final recordings, and I agree they are
     sad, but in a bittersweet sort of way. When you look
     at them in the context of the greatness of this guy,
     they are a nice way of him saying "so long".

     Other related bands of interest are Bob's best singer,
     Tommy Duncan and his Western All-Stars, Bob's brother
     Johnny Lee Wills, and the most interesting of all,
     Billy Jack Wills, who was able to blend elements of
     Be-Bop with Western Swing.

*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#

Spade Cooley: Spadella! (Columbia)

     Spade Cooley was quite a character. At the peak
     of his career he stomped his wife to death with
     the heel of his Nudie cowboy boots and was sent
     to San Quentin. His band included a 50s TV style
     organ and a harp! He was Bob Wills's main
     competition, and he could give him a run for his
     money when he got swinging.

     Spade's singer, Tex Williams (who Spade fired for
     "having a swelled head") became famous for the song,
     Smoke, Smoke Smoke that Cigarette. He has some
     great solo CDs out too. The Vintage Capitol
     Collection and the live radio broadcasts on the
     RFD label are the best.

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Adolph Hofner: South Texas Swing (Arhoolie)

     Adolph Hofner is an unknown gem of an artist.
     He was popular until WWII hit, then he couldn't
     get a job because of his unfortunate first name.
     He has one cut where he synthesizes Western Swing
     and his native Polish folk music! The lyrics are
     in Polish and the song is a sort of cowboy polka.
     Astounding stuff. Great jazzy guitar and mandolin
     licks.

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Milton Brown and his Musical Brownies: 5 vols
(Texas Rose)

     This collection is a time capsule. The music isn't
     as sparky as some of the other bands, but the range
     of music is impressive. My favorite song on this
     set has lyrics that go... "I can tell by your face,
     you're a member of the monkey race. I can tell by
     your hands that you have monkey glands. You're bound
     to look like a monkey when you get old!" Where
     else do you get lyrics like that?

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Hank Garland and his Sugarfooters (Bear Family)

     There isn't a lot of Hank Garland out there, but his
     guitar playing is fantastic. His vocals are fun too.
     This is quintessential "chickin pickin". Nice peppy
     organ backing too. Other great guitar pickers include
     Chet Atkins and Merle Travis.

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Kenny Roberts: Jumpin' & Yodellin' (Bear Family)

     This is some of the most astounding yodelling you
     will ever hear. This guy is a martian! Other great
     cowboy yodellers include: Elton Britt, Roy Rogers,
     and Slim Whitman. All of them are worth a listen.
     In general, the earlier the recording, the better
     the yodelling. (Roy Rogers was the only one I
     know of who kept his yodelling chops until the
     day he died... although you wouldn't know it from
     some of his later recordings.)

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Hank Thompson: All Time Greatest Hits: 2 vols (Curb)

     Hank Thompson and his Brazos Valley Boys have a
     huge discography on Capitol. The Bear Family
     complete box set is great, but these two budget
     priced CDs collect all the hits. Thompson was
     the king of the mixed metaphor. Listening to him
     drawl his way through "I Got a Humpty Dumpty
     Heart" and "Waiting in the Lobby of Your Heart"
     can't help but make you smile. Other good Hank
     CDs are the live radio broadcast discs on RFD
     and Flyright Fly labels, and the Varese Sarabande
     collection of later Warners material.

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>PS I'm sure that there are several other categories which I am
>sure should also be included in an exclusion list.

Never exclude anything until you know about it. My theory is
that 90% or more of everything is crap. If you stick to one
genre, you will spend most of your time listening to the crap.
Better to be a musical honeybee getting nectar from all kinds
of different flowers. Open your mind and your ears will follow.

If you have plumbed the depths of your particular preferences,
check out country music. There is a lot there that you wouldn't
expect. Western Swing is one of the best.

See ya
Steve


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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Airchecks:Radio:Reel Top 40 Radio Repository
Date: 23 Jul 1999 18:14:43 -0400 (EDT)



http://www.reelradio.com/

This is one tremendous site!  Lots of old radio shows of really amazing DJs.   Right
now I'm listening to Radio Jingles from the mid 1960s  for WLS radio in Chicago sung by
the Anita Kerr sSingers.   This is true exotica.  The amazing BasicHip first got me
onto this radio jingle world.  These jingles are tops.  A genius put together the Anita
Kerr Singers with radio jingles for WLS, a station that carried to 48 states.

While I'm at it did any one ever catch the great Beacon Street Show out of Little Rock
with Clyde Clifford.  Another show that you could hear in Chicago or New Orleans.

I'm always looking for more of these jingles if anyone has them.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) found music!
Date: 23 Jul 1999 19:12:02 -0500


Nat Kone wrote:

>
> >Dancing at the Waldorf, Nat Brandwynne
>
> Hmmm...  There was a fairly important klezmer bandleader named Naftali
> Brandwein.  I wonder if Nat is the name he used for "whiter" recording
> dates.  Nat is a popular pseudonym.
> I don't suppose they mention anything about klezmer or "Nat's" curriculum
> vitae on the record, do they?

I have it on good authority that Naftali Brandwein did nothing but klezmer. He
was not the Nat spoken of.

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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing (Longish)
Date: 23 Jul 1999 18:41:39 -0500


>Michael Zadoorian wrote:
>> Has anyone read "Lone Star Swing" by Duncan McLean?  It's a pretty
>>interesting >> book about a Scot travelling around Texas in search of
>>authentic >Western >> Swing.

I've not read it, but I can tell you about Duncan McLean's reading in an
Austin bookstore.
   The place was packed to the rafters, since Western Swing is cherished by
many Texans -- including some of the Butthole Surfers, who showed up to
hear McLean read. (They're also regulars at Broken Spoke, the dance hall
'round the corner from me. That's right -- Gabbie two-steppin' along with
the cowboys and software developers and chip engineers and game designers.)
   McLean was of course thrilled to be among us ignorant smelly rednecks. I
think Texas sort of overwhelmed him, but then that happens even to the
natives. God knows sometimes it stumps me after five years here. His visit
was capped by two events:
    First was a call at the Bob Wills Museum in Wills' hometown of Turkey.
It's in the Texas Panhandle, high plains country, and to reach Turkey most
people pass through Matador and Floydada, the Pumpkin Capital of the United
States. The museum, run by Wills' daughter, has sheet music, photos,
fiddles, hats, boots, recordings (yes eXoticats, see real Bob Wills records
there!) and other Texas Playboys' memorabilia. The last weekend in April is
Bob Wills Day, actually held a day and a night but then we ignorant smelly
rednecks can't count too good either. If you make the pilgrimage, stay at
the Turkey Hotel, a fine old place where Wills played in the 20s.
     Second, as he told it, McLean had an near-religious experience in
Lubbock, where a larger than life statue of Buddy Holly towers above the
lone-star studded Texas Walk of Fame right in front of city hall. You can
visit that any hour, but be forewarned that Lubbock can get pretty rough.
Lubbock is also home to Holly's grave, marked with a simple stone memorial.
If I remember right, McLean left flowers there, as do lots of fans. Draws a
heavy contingent of visitors from the UK. McLean did not leave flowers but
paid his respects at the statue of Stevie Ray Vaughn, on the banks of the
river that splits Austin in two.
     McLean was engaging, kind, open, and touching. If his book reflects
that personality -- and the sample he read did -- it's probably well worth
reading.

Wills figures briefly in a chapter or two about the Western Swing scene
around Tulsa, OK, in the 20s and 30s in a bio: _Suits Me, the Double Life
of Billy Tipton_ by Diane Middlebrook. Billy Tipton was a woman who wanted
play the bandstand but couldn't get gigs wearing her dress. So she lived
her life as a man, marrying three or four women, adopting two sons, leading
his own bands, recording a couple of records in the 50s. Only when he died
did many of his most intimate associates, including his sons and most of
his ex-wives, learn he was a woman born. Highly recommended to anyone who
wonders, How did Billy pull it off? Good stuff too about the American
itinerant musician's life from the 20s-70s.

Just saw Stephen Worth's muy fabuloso Western Swing list. Go git 'em,
pardner! A big thank you, sir, for your recommends. Now do I spend that
$100 of mad money that just blew in on CDs or as a partial payment on a
Nitty Gritty? Ooh, a luscious dilemma!

Happy Trails,
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From: Citizen Kafka <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Western Swing
Date: 23 Jul 1999 20:02:14 -0400


Stephen,

careful about calling ANYONE names! There are Romanian pressings of
Zamfir, playing traditional music with the national orchestra and with a
cymbalum player, that would make any exotica person scream yee-ha! Hot,
virtuosic, exciting, exciting (look for a cut called "dragon's breath"
in romanian). Plus his records (more than 1) of panpipes and organ,
playing superb klezmer music. And, BTW, a few of his "classical"
recordings are truly great interpretations. Look, there was even a great
ocarina soloist at the beginning of the century, playing all sorts of
music, and rocking! Yes, a lot of Zamfir recordings are schmaltz, but as
you probably know, a LOT of the people discussed on the list recorded a
LOT of mediocre material, and then, some gems!

You might be right, that the statements are ignorant, but it also sounds
like someone trying to get a rise (he got it!)... on the other hand,
from a certain purist perspective, birdcalls and south sea islands and
running streams is pretty far from Milton Brown. On yet another hand,
some of the greatest music ever recorded or created was played by
rednecks, and a few probably smelled, too (ever get spit on or pissed on
by Jimmy Martin??).

For the record, i am a professional old-time fiddle player, my band has
won lots of contests (up north only!), i love the great western swing
music (as well as the great music of every imaginable type, and types
that most folks can't imagine), and i DJ what i would consider the most
exotic mix around. A short quote from the New York Times Sunday
Magazine, April this year:

Humming to himself, he cues up his selections, following the Greek tune
with a recording of music
           from the carousel in Brooklyn's Prospect Park (a Wurlitzer
band organ, he says, offhandedly
           adding that he recorded it himself); "I Never Will Forget," a
rhythm-and-blues waltz by Shirley
           Ellis; and a cracked piece of country harmony by the Delmore
Brothers. Then he leans over to me
           and announces, "Now it's time to get crazy -- this is an
Inuit song, Eskimos singing into each
           other's mouths!"

None of that falls into the strict exotica realm, and i assure you that
i do play the "inside" exotica material, too, but all i'm saying is that
there is lots of great music of all sorts. Whether calling it exotica
makes it acceptable or not, it's time to rip open the pockets that music
keeps getting put into, and digging the best of everything.

BTW, here's the complete NYT article:

http://www.megasaver.com/timesart.html

and i'm also a theremin player, professional and (former) union member.

I would also recommend looking for some of Tiny Moore's work, especially
backing Merle Haggard in Merle's tribute band to Wills...

take care,

ck
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NEW!: every Tuesday 6 to 7 PM EST WFMU 91.1 FM
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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 23 Jul 1999 19:33:57 -0500


The bossa nova goes to Nashville on this week's Retro Cocktail Hour
webcast.  Hear guitarist Harold Bradley's South American spin on
"Devil Woman"!

Also--music for teenage rebellion from Edd "Kookie" Byrnes and "Hot
Rod Rumble";  jungle jazz by Les Baxter, Shelley Manne (the theme
from "Daktari"!) and the late, lamented Chaino;  mambos by a German
guy from Wisconsin and a Russian from New York;  stereo overkill with
Esquivel, Guitars Unlimited and Lew Davies;  plus the only Liberace
record you'll EVER hear on this show!

To hear Liberace and the rest, you'll need at least a 28.8 Internet
connection and RealPlayer 5.0 or G2.  You'll find The Retro Cocktail
Hour at:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html

While you're there, browse the new exhibit in the cover gallery --
Bongo Fever!  Your comments, suggestions and requests always welcome.

Thanks for the space.


Darrell Brogdon
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KANU Radio
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
Lawrence, KS 66045
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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Riddle me this,Batman...?
Date: 24 Jul 1999 06:15:25 +0200



>Also, Anyone have Space Age Music for a Space Suite, (buy a guy who's =
last=20
>name is Christian)?  Anythoughts on worth? Do you like the music, etc?

Yeah
Its Bobby Christan
Strings for a space age

Just played track one
Great track
and there is more
on that album

Not as good as Garcia or Comstock
But a good space LP indeed

Magnus





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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Zoomer, the beatnik tiki robot
Date: 24 Jul 1999 06:45:19 +0200





I am Zoomer
the hip beatnik tiki robot
Zoom out
Yeah
got that swing?
I'm in the swing of things cool

I am Zoomer the beatnik tiki robot WOW
Building your world

I may look odd to YOU
Looking ODD!
Oddlooking
But I am Zoomer
Zoom out YEAH

Sipping on a coconaut=20
upside down to you
The way I like it MAN

Hanging out with the mooncreature from the moooooon
spinning hip wax from saturn. that's cool
etheral bongo beats and
electronic zounds=20
by some cats up the hill

Its the wake up call
Gotta go to that room
where the birds sing sweeeeeetly
See you around
like in tiki-ville baby

Yeah!





Not annoying to much i hope,
gotta split the scene

Magnus

















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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 24 Jul 1999 01:02:21 -0400


At 02:13 PM 7/23/99 +0100, Andrew Edgar wrote:
>
>This all sounds pretty awful, this is supposed to be for exotica, not
>mainstream C+W garbage, the next thing will be discussions on Kenny Rodgers,
>then Rita Coolidge, Dwighht Yoakum, Then Garth Brookes.

My buddy is on a Jim Nabors kick and I was trying to ignore it.  But I
finally relented and tried this one where Gomer has longish hair and sings
old country songs.
I kind of loved it.
It was strange and alienating but kind of beautiful like some exotica with
the same qualities.  Somehow that big operatic voice of his "worked" for me
here.
I'm not saying that qualifies it as exotica per se but it's the kind of
thing I'd post to this list..
As I just did.
And have I ever mentioned the record Tex Ritter made with Stan Kenton?  It
was towards the end of his career, his voice was starting to fail and he
does this version of September Song that should have been retitled December
Song.  He sounds like he's about to die before the song ends.
Maybe the presence of Stan Kenton gives the record a bit of lounge
appropriateness but that's not why I would post it to this list.

I know our new member, the agent provocateur who works for those bastard
lawyers, was just trying to cause a "furore" but I came to exotica from
other music  and exotica has opened my ears to yet more stuff and somehow I
consider all that music - the before, during and after - part of the
"subject" of this list.

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Subject: (exotica) Davie Allan & The Arrows tour dates
Date: 24 Jul 1999 03:00:55 EDT


OK, not exactly exotica, but the band does do a Mancini cover, so that's
reason enough to list here (besides, we know that several of you on this list
love Davie)!

7/27 - NY - Continental Club - 25 3rd Ave. - [phone]
7/28 - Portland, ME - Free St. Tavern - 128 Free St. - [phone]
7/29 - Montreal - Jailhouse Rock - 30 Mt. Royal St. - [phone]
7/30 - Toronto - El Mocambo - 464 Spadina Ave. - [phone]
7/31 - Detroit - Magic Stick - 4219 Woodward Ave. - [phone]
8/1   - Milwaukee - Cactus Club - 2496 S. Wentworth Ave - [phone]
8/2   - Iowa City, IA - Gabe's - 330 E. Washington - [phone]
8/3   - St. Louis - Side Door - 2005 Locust St. - [phone]
8/5   - Atlanta, GA - Star Bar - 437 Moreland Ave. - [phone]
8/6   - Asheville, NC - Stella Blue - 31 Patton Ave. - [phone]
8/7   - Chapel Hill, NC - Local 506 (Sleazefest) 506 W. Franklin -
[phone]
8/10 - Chicago - Lounge Axe - 2438 N. Lincoln Ave. - [phone]
8/11 - Buffalo - Mohawk Place - 47 E. Mohawk - [phone]
8/12 - Cleveland - Pat's in the Flats - 2233 W. 3rd St. - [phone]
8/13 - Philadelphia - Upstairs at Nick's - 16 S.Second - [phone]
8/14 - Hoboken, NJ - Maxwell's - [phone]

Hope to see some of you...thanks

Lee/Dionysus Records/Davie's bass player


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From: [e-mail] (kevin leeeeee)
Subject: (exotica) western shwing
Date: 24 Jul 1999 00:49:05 -0700 (PDT)


it's the heat right?

thanks to steve again for that awesome dense list.  you rule.

billy strange might be a good "bridge" between the more traditional exotica
stuff and the country/western thing.  there was a "strange country"
compilation out a few years ago i think.  i have a billy strange lp from
70's where he does a lot of tv show themes.  seems like the 70's was the
peak of the tv show theme.  i mean, how many cover albums come out these
days featuring only tv show themes?

speedy west i can also add my recommendation whatever that's worth.
there's that whole slide guitar hawaii/western thing there, further proving
the relevancy of this relevant topic.

of course then there's lee hazlewood....

it saddens me that people, esp. in america, have practically abandoned
western swing.  and country for that matter.  whatever is passing for
popular country nowadays is about as country as a lot of those alleged
"ska" bands today are actual jamaican ska music (sorry, not meant to
generate flame, just trying to make a point).  support your local bluegrass
and swing musicians and maybe the music won't completely die out.

also recommended, pbs did a great series on the history of country and
western. clearly distinguishing the two genres.  did a good job as far as a
general overview and giving "props" to those such as bob wills.  can't
remember the name, but i did tape it... i think.

personal note, in ann arbor michigan i used to listen to this western swing
dj every saturday morning on wcbn-fm.  i grew up pretty much hearing that
every saturday when i'd go buy comic books cos the owner, norm, would
always play it.  i hated it at first.  about as funky or cool as a golf
club.  but then it got to me, cant say when or why.  but one day i realized
how fucking cool this music was.  this took many years, btw., probably
after norm closed his comic store.

i also USED to hate: the carpenters, the fifth dimension, blues, country,
hippie dippy stuff in the vein of free design...

still dislike for the most part:  classical period classical music, polkas,
new age, (most) folk music...

but i never hated: herb alpert, popcorn, pink panther theme, 70's tv show themes

peace, love, and all that shit.
kevin leeeeee





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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Leferve/Ros/Aldritch/etc
Date: 24 Jul 1999 12:20:03 +0200


[e-mail] wrote:

> What about the others? Frank Chacksfield always seemed drippy to me, and Ramond
> Leferve just a bit dull.

There's a GREAT cd by Raymond Lefevre, featuring his scores for the 'gendarme'
movies by Louis de FunΦs. It's not dull at all. Very entertaining and nicely
packaged. I think Johan agrees on this one :-)

Marco


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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Zoomer, the beatnik tiki robot
Date: 24 Jul 1999 12:20:22 +0200


Sandberg Magnus wrote:

> I am Zoomer
> Not annoying to much i hope,
> gotta split the scene

You have been playing too much Western Swing lately! :-)

Marco



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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Velvet Underground and other Piles of Shit
Date: 24 Jul 1999 12:20:44 +0200


Peter Risser wrote:

> And besides, a lesson we've learned a billion and one times on this
> list, a good tune transcends all genres, arrangable in any style.
>
> This list, like the other lists I am part of, is exceptional, only
> because it leaps librarian-driven category boundaries, drawing links
> between all sorts of music.--

I can only heartily agree. And that's the way I like to play records too: one
moment Yma Sumac is in my cd-player, five minutes later I feel like playing
something by John Coltrane and after that I may dig out the first Velvet
Underground album or maybe even some country record (yes, I have a few of those
- nothing wrong with Hank Williams or Johnny Cash!). An open mind, now that's
what I call really exotic!

Marco


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste
Date: 24 Jul 1999 15:00:49 +0100 (BST)


> Peter Hipwell has (is) lovingly compiling a Studio 2 Discography (and a
> Phase 4 discography).  Here is the URL:
> http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~petehip/home.html
> I think it was his post about the pages that started the phase 4 thread,
> that came back through studio 2 to the same place.  Indeed they are both
> mighty diverse labels.  Mighty and  Diverse.  You would have to be a
> complete completist to want the lot on either,  I wouldn't buy anything
> on either label just because it was on the label.  But there are some
> really great records on both.

There's an explanation of what the 'phase 4' name means here:

  http://www.concentric.net/~oakapple/gasdisc/decca_phase4.htm

and an interview with the Phase 4 producer here with a few comments about
mono/stereo and 'bachelor pad music':

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 stereo covers
Date: 24 Jul 1999 15:07:05 +0100 (BST)


> In a message dated 7/23/99 12:18:08 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
> >However, even the really lousy S2 albums benefit from the amazing recording
> >techniques and sound great.
>
> To say nothing of the covers. Even the military marching bands and Scottish
> kilt fellas' bands have covers that look brand spankin' new. If nothing else,
> Studio 2 provides excellent wall art.

For modern art/psychedelic covers I like classical records too. Some are real
masterpieces: blocks of colour, geometric patterns, spirals, cut-up photos etc.
Often worth looking through (in addition to the fact that easy listening stuff
often ends up in the same box)


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From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Peyton Place
Date: 24 Jul 1999 09:58:08 -0700


The other day I was watching a series called "The 50's" (taped off the =
History Channel), and when the topic got to the book "Peyton Place" =
there was a wonderful audio excerpt of someone reading a paragraph or so =
from the book.  It sounded like the author, Grace Metalious, but I =
haven't been able to determine if there is actually a recording =
somewhere of her reading from her book.  Does anyone know about this?
Thanks,
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From: [e-mail] (kevin leeeeee)
Subject: (exotica) (very off topic) compuserve ok?
Date: 24 Jul 1999 11:32:00 -0700 (PDT)


hi,
i'm really sorry to bother you all but i'm trying to see if anyone can
dis-recommend compuserve???

i don't know anyone who uses it.  but they have this free computer deal
thing but you have to sign a 3 year contract with them. very scary.

sorry again.

kevin leeeeee

ps  please email me responses off-list.




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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica) Billy Tipton (was Western Swing)
Date: 24 Jul 1999 13:51:22 -0500


>Moritz wrote about Billy Tipton:
>
>> Billy Tipton was a woman who wanted
>> play the bandstand but couldn't get gigs wearing her dress. So she lived
>> her life as a man,

>Zounds! That's pretty exotic... You mean s/he did all this for being in a
>band?

Well, you know those wacky artists, Mo. Anything for their art.

Sure there were other reasons. But Billy started x-dressing to get work to
support herself and her mother.

When she was a teenager, Billy began to play gigs in her hometown of Tulsa,
OK. In the late 20s Tulsa was a jumpin' place with lots of jazz clubs and
the beginnings of western swing. She had good chops as a piano and sax
player and more skill than a lot of other pros she auditioned with -- she
could read and arrange music and her playing swung. But bands wouldn't hire
her because touring with a single woman at the time was verboten. Plus,
this was the Depression, so living was hard for everyone. When she got a
good gig after auditioning in x-dress, Billy lived part-time as a man. Her
path was sealed when she fell in love an older women, described as a butch
lesbian, in _Suits Me_.

Diane Middlebrook suggests that Billy found other payoffs as a man: the
love of docile, somewhat sheltered women, freedom to become a bandleader,
stylin' duds and a fling as a playboy, opportunities to express his
creativity and hold the spotlight, satistfaction as the considerate
caretaker of his women and adopted sons, and a mentor to younger musicians.
And money. He could make better money as a man, even though he was stuck
for most of his career in second- or third-tier jobs in supper and
nightclubs through the American Midwest and Northwest.

Billy went to incredible lengths to maintain the pretense: shaving twice a
day when he was gigging, for instance. He surrounded himself with people
who were too naive or too egocentric to see through him. He deflected
questions with a joke or a lie or outright evasion. He was constantly
dogged by fears that he'd be found out. In the late 50s he stopped
performing, just as the Billy tipton Trio was on the verge of making it.
They were getting better jobs than ever before, playing warmup for Liberace
in Las Vegas and LA, among others, plus the record contracts. Middlebrook
argues -- quite convincingly -- that Billy had entered the realm of
big-time entertainment, where his new peers had the sophistication to catch
him at his ruse. He withdrew to a small town in Washington state and worked
as a booking agent until he died in 1989. Sadly, only at his death did
Billy win the fame he'd wanted. The news media worldwide reported his death
not because he was a well-known musician but because of the scale of his
deception.

I've never heard any of Tipton's music, and I'd love to. If anyone has the
Tops lps, _Sweet Georgia Brown_ (56) or _Billy Tipton Plays Hi-Fi on Piano_
(56 or 57), I'm ready to buy. A detailed description would please me too.
Please contact me offlist.

I don't know if there are any translations of _Suits Me_. Is a paper
edition is in print? Got me. It's likely because Middlebrook is a respected
writer whose _Ann Sexton_, a bio of the American poet, was nominated for
the National Book Award, a big deal here. Read it as a fascinating social
history of the Swing Era that raises lots of subtle questions about gender,
sexuality, and tolerance. It's an amazing story.  And yes, Mo, to most
people Billy's life would be exotic. But then artists are pretty exotic to
most people too.

Suiting up,
Mimi




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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Moogs, Moons, Marimbas, and More
Date: 23 Jul 1999 19:38:16 -0600




I have an EBay auction with pretty friendly minimum bids.  I hate to solicit but
I do have:

Moon Gas - Hyman/Mayo
It's About Time - Tonto
Several Martin Denny
Several Arthur Lyman
Several more in the next day or two

Check them out at:
http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=mcwax

Thanks for looking.

Matt




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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Andrew Edgar
Date: 24 Jul 1999 06:24:16 +0200


Am I the only one
who thinks
this boring brit
is serious pain?

sorry, had to get it out of me
wrong of me
edgar
very welcome to the list
very very very welcome
M



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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Edmundo Ros!
Date: 24 Jul 1999 14:50:34 -0500


Cheryl wrote:
> Personally, I will gladly trade away the one or two Frank Chacksfield
> LPs that have found their way into my collection.  But Edmundo Ros???
> This is the man who released "Latin Love In"! While some of his releases
> are better than others, I consider him among the better "exotica"
> musicians, and I believe that he deserves a home in any exotica
> collection.  But then, that's just my humble little opinion.
Edmundo Ros' "Dance Again" was so good, we had trouble deciding
which tracks NOT to play in a previous Space Bop.  This one,
along with Werner Mueller's "Hawaiian Swing", are two of our
favourites in the Phase 4 series.  Of course other Ros and Mueller
Phase 4 releases are not as strong so best to listen first. These two
however, are guaranteed to please!

Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
Montreal, Canada


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From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 24 Jul 1999 12:15:47 -0700


So do you want to also ban discussion of Morricone's Spaghetti Western =
Soundtracks?  And Dean Martin's western recordings? =20

I love crossover tracks like Nat King Cole's "The Ballad of Cat Ballou," =
or Les Paul's version of "The Chicken Reel."  And "16 Tons" by Tennessee =
Ernie Ford is simply one of the great songs in any genre. =20

I personally don't think that discussing western-type recordings puts us =
in danger of becoming a Garth Brooks group.  I doubt that most people on =
the list work at a Ford plant and go to rodeos on the weekend.  But =
that's just my opinion.

Jerry


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Sent:    Friday, July 23, 1999 6:14 AM


This all sounds pretty awful, this is supposed to be for exotica, not
mainstream C+W garbage, the next thing will be discussions on Kenny =
Rodgers,
then Rita Coolidge, Dwighht Yoakum, Then Garth Brookes.




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From: "Brian Karasick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Western Swing
Date: 24 Jul 1999 15:25:37 -0500


I have to say that the mention of C&W music is something that
usually sets my stomach spinning but I think one must separate the
Nashville pop crossover schlock from the more sincere "western"
music, aka early Johnny Cash, Frankie Laine, etc.  And I'm embarrased
to say that I had no appreciation whatsoever for this stuff before
Moritz sent me a cassette... from Germany!

I still need to find out more about Quebec's own country music of
which I know very little beyond Willy Lamothe, a pseudo Wayne Newton
look alike singer and some time actor.

 Brian Karasick
Physical Planner
McGill University
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......
Date: 24 Jul 1999 16:51:17 EDT


In a message dated 7/23/99 1:45:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< I'm still waiting for all of those drive-in snack bar ad music
accompaniments - >>

Let's go out to the Lobby . . . . . . . .



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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Zoomer, the beatnik tiki robot
Date: 24 Jul 1999 17:01:55 EDT


In a message dated 7/24/99 3:21:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Sandberg Magnus wrote:

 > I am Zoomer
 > Not annoying to much i hope,
 > gotta split the scene

 You have been playing too much Western Swing lately! :-)

 Marco
  >>


Maybe the tiki robot's name is "Tumor" as in the kind growing on his brain.
(That might explain him listening to Western Swing [you know - that Redneck
smelly shit music]).

Actually I like WS and have enjoyed the "exchange" regarding this and the
interesting post.

Being remarkably quiet (village) on the swing subject,

Tiki Bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Tiki Bob's Lament
Date: 24 Jul 1999 17:10:44 EDT


oh Exotic List what do you say?
topics vary in a "shitty" way.

the enchanted seas to england do row
but alas i learn that western swing does blow.

what would martin, or les, or amy say?
well, the latter did cussed out an audience one day.

so does a bastard make one who would call denny jazz?
and is it inapproriate to call such one retard or spaz?

oh i know how to judge exotica the best
and forget the tiki torching flames of nary a pest.

it's the beat man, the heat man, the bongo beat to a throb.

yes that is exotica - in the heart of this bob.

Thanks for the inspiration Mag,

Tiki Bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 24 Jul 1999 17:14:47 EDT


In a message dated 7/24/99 12:11:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I personally don't think that discussing western-type recordings puts us
in danger of becoming a Garth Brooks group.  I doubt that most people on the
list work at a Ford plant and go to rodeos on the weekend.  But that's just
my opinion. >>


I really find this discussion interesting.  I don't enjoy current rock music
but I do like the Oldies Rock  (you know 50's and 60's stuff).

I don't like country music a lot either but I (an don't others???) admit that
current country music is more like the early rock of what we now call the
Oldies era.

So Tiki Bob does join in on the discusion!  And to add a little excitment I
will include a cuss word.  Bitch.

Tiki Bob


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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist For Space Bop, July 25
Date: 24 Jul 1999 18:45:06 -0400


Beyond kitsch, Space Bop is one hour of full galactical wonder, and can
be heard every Sunday from 4 to 5 pm on CKUT 90.3 FM in Montreal,
Canada, and on RealAudio (real time only, for now) at:

http://www.ckut.ca

All comments, questions, and feedback welcome.

Space Bop #58   Blame It On The Bossa Nova

Gotz Alsmann:  Va Ba Ba Boom  "Gestatten"
Montefiori Cocktail:  So, What's New  "Raccolta No. 1"
Klaus Wunderlich:  Felicidade  "Sound 2000"
Hugo Strasser:  Exodus/Smile/High Noon (Bossa Nova Medley)  "Filmhits
Zum Tanzen"

Serge Gainsbourg:  Couleur Cafe  "Espresso Espresso"
Brasilian Boys:  Per l'Eternita  "Mo'Plen Brazilia"
Lalo Schifrin:  Lalo's Bossa Nova (Samba Para Dos)  "Mission
Impossible...And More"
Edmundo Ros:  Blame It On The Bossa Nova  "Latin Boss - Senor Ros"
Sergio Mendes:  Mas Que Nada  "Cocktail Mix 2: Martini Madness"
Chico Buarque:  A Banda  "Chico Total"

Dimitri From Paris:  Une Very Stylish Fille  "Sacrebleu"
Walter Wanderley:  Music To Watch Girls By  "Boss Of The Bossa Nova"
Combustible Edison:  Summer Samba  "Blue Light"
Mrs. Miller:  The Girl From Ipanema  "Wild Cool & Swingin'"

Quincy Jones:  Soul Bossa Nova  "Cocktail Mix 2: Martini Madness"
Connie Francis:  Bossa Nova Hand Dance  "Cocktail Mix 2: Martini
Madness"
Fantastic Plastic Machine:  Bossa For Jackie (Summer Review EP Version)
"Luxury"
Jona & Coro:  W La Felicita  "Mo'Plen Brazilia"


Thanks for reading.

[e-mail]
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From: "Brian Tozer" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Western Swing
Date: 24 Jul 1999 19:54:06 -0400


I was probably the king of all C&W haters when I came across
Asleep at the Wheels' "Tribute to Bob Wills and the Texas
Playboys".  I couldn't believe it...no whiny pedal steel guitars (Wills-
era players used the lap steel), top-notch playing, upbeat
interesting music!  That album is overly slick (and includes guest
appearances by some inappropriate performers such as Huey
Lewis) but it's an easy introduction to Wills' music and it spurred
me to buy Rhino's "Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys Anthology".
This set shows the versatility of the Wills band quite well...there's
even material that could be called "Big Band" on it.
After hearing the above I began to test the C&W waters, and there
IS some worthwhile material out there...really!

By the way, to the Canadians on the list...apparently Don Messer's
band could play incredibly well live, and were often compared to
Bob Wills. (Most Canadians only remember the tired old band that
our parents forced us to watch once a week on the CBC)
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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 25 Jul 1999 02:47:50 +0200


Can anyone describe the difference between bluegrass and western swing =
please?
Dont have much but enjoy the stuff called Bluegrass most.

High Highly enjoy a 50s double lp called "Banjo Jamboree" from Starday. =
I believe its bluegrass, Banjo pickin are kinda psychedelic actually. =
Would love to hear more of that in exotica, the forbidden five way. I =
know you are with me on that Peter.

Rednecks? I would say sensitive poets. Eartbound poets. And thats good. =
At least I think so.

Highly enjoy Robert Pete Williams too. Different worlds that may not =
differ that much. its Man.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???
Date: 25 Jul 1999 08:26:11 EDT


Would any member care to make a comment (or comments) regarding their
prefrences/experiences with CD changers?

Specifically, I am wondering if the front load or the carousel ones are
preferred?  I picked up a Technics front loader but I am concerned that the
CDs may get scratched when they load and unload from the narrow slots.  Do
you think the carousels would be less likely to scratch the CDs?

I looked very hard at a Pioneer carousel that was about the same price.

Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

Tiki Bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Studio 2 and taste
Date: 25 Jul 1999 13:47:28 +0100 (BST)


> I think my favourite Studio 2 release must be (something like) 'Norrie
> Paramor plays the hits of Cliff Richard and the Shadows in a Latin
> Style'.

That's not too strange, since Norrie Paramor was Cliff Richard's producer. He
also supposedly produced the first UK rock'n'roll record but i've forgotten the
band's name (someone and the Rockets I think). He didn't like R'n'R but when
Cliff's b-side 'Move It' was a hit he had to continue.

On Studio 2 there's also a George Martin one playing the hits of the Beatles but
it's pretty straightforward.



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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) legal low-power FM possibility
Date: 25 Jul 1999 10:16:40 -0400


The FCC is accepting public comment on legalizing low-power FM stations:

http://www.fcc.gov/mmb/prd/lpfm/

Ron... your move.



m.ace  [e-mail]
OOK   http://www.voicenet.com/~ecam/


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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???
Date: 25 Jul 1999 10:18:38 -0400


>Would any member care to make a comment (or comments) regarding their
>prefrences/experiences with CD changers?

Magnusvox makes a really sweet 6-foot maple console model, but it's pretty difficult to find.


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......
Date: 25 Jul 1999 12:03:02 EDT


Sinister Cinema has two volumes (!) of nothing but intermission films trying
to get people to go to the concession stand.

Ashley


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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Yet another exotica poem
Date: 25 Jul 1999 18:26:39 +0200


(It seems I go more and more off topic
Just tell me to stop and I will)


Cool waters and dragonflies
a house with a fireplace
and no electricity
a black and white tv
that was driven by battery
as i remember
the movies were old
older than me

the poisonous snake in the pit
One day he left his side and
visited ours
but dad carried him away
Both wolwes and bears
have been seen around
my summers paradise
A paradise sold=20
because
it was too old

flashes from
a world
that i used to know

Leaving nature early on
Collected by a god or what
that was mean to me
or was it the other way around

Finding love yet again
Is the worry just me
I'm nature too
and proud of it
gotta get that worry out
cause it hurts me
give me a sign if I am OK
All i want is to belong
in a thing not to wrong
with a love
to all

relate to digital
zoomer zooms in
one colored
squares
thats not very hip
but
maybe its
better to see
the cyberpunks cell
so we can tell
its all fake


When i go
I go=20
south sea
thats where i wanna be

Its the quiet village
for all eternity

with nice people in the bar
speking soft and kind
about the things they've done
to the tones
of exotic sounds


Magnus
No toy robot at all








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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"
Date: 24 Jul 1999 19:46:48 +0200


    i don't think i ever contacted them about it. i don't mind ;-)

        Johan


        [e-mail]


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>Johan? Did you ever get any response out of those people who, er,
>appropriated your word "Exotiquarium" for their book?





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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"
Date: 25 Jul 1999 13:51:48 EDT


In a message dated 7/25/99 10:21:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< i don't think i ever contacted them about it. i don't mind ;-)

         Johan


         [e-mail] >>


what a noble gesture.  others would be busy securing lawyers.

tiki bob


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Western Swing
Date: 25 Jul 1999 14:12:36 -0400


At 07:54 PM 7/24/99 -0400, Brian Tozer wrote:
>
>I was probably the king of all C&W haters when I came across
>Asleep at the Wheels' "Tribute to Bob Wills and the Texas
>Playboys".  I couldn't believe it...no whiny pedal steel guitars
>After hearing the above I began to test the C&W waters, and there
>IS some worthwhile material out there...really!

I'm not trying to convince or convert anybody but I'm kind of surprised to
see the consistency of the anti-country sentiments on this list.
All those old complaints about "whiny" steel guitars etc.
At this rate we'll soon hear comments about big hair, nasal voices, the
consistency of subject matter - "my wife left me for a truckdriver and my
dog got hit by a train" - and other cliches which anyone who loves a
certain kind of music, hears all the time.
I love country music, bluegrass, honky-tonk, compilations of country-blues
from the 30's, country and western and even country-rock.  I don't care for
"New Country" but I like a lot of what they call "alternative country" or
"No Depression country" or even "insurgent country".
Country music is as "significant" a part of my taste as anything we ever
talk about here and I am just as thrilled to find an early record by Little
Jimmy Dickens - before he got into the "novelty songs" - as I am to find a
Dick Schory percussion record or a funky Johnny Lyttle organ 'n vibes record.
One of my prized possessions is a Ralph Stanley record from the early
seventies.  It's all gospel and religious material "but" it's one of the
most beautiful records I've ever heard.
Yeah if you don't love country music, you can be distracted by all those
whiny, nasal, cliche-ridden aspects that are certainly there much of the time.
But the music is not defined by those aspects any more than the music we
talk about here is defined by the things its detractors say about it.
I'm not trying to get the list to extend its discussion into country music
or even Western swing for that matter.  It just got a little tiresome to
hear the consistent dismissal of an entire musical genre, especially from a
group who you'd think would question musical prejudices.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 25 Jul 1999 15:48:15 -0400


At 02:47 AM 7/25/99 +0200, Sandberg Magnus wrote:
>
>Can anyone describe the difference between bluegrass and western swing
please?
>Dont have much but enjoy the stuff called Bluegrass most.

There's really not much comparison at all between the two unless all
"country" music sounds the same to you.
I'm not going to haul out the research but the records generally identified
as "the first country records" were much closer to what we would now call
"bluegrass" or even "folk" than to country or "country and western"
A lot of these records have been gathered in a compilation called "The
Bristol Sessions" because they were recorded in Bristol, a town where one
side of the main street is in Tennessee and the other side in Virginia.
(Or maybe West Virginia?)
If you listen to the Jimmie Rodgers (not the "Honeycomb" guy) cuts on those
first sessions, it almost sounds like old blues.  And in fact there are
compilations out there whose basic goal is to show you how similar white
"folk music" and black folk music were at the time.
And to some degree, the development of country music is the story of
removing the "blues influence" from the music.
Anyway, Western Swing is a fairly "narrow" phenomenon.  It's country with
strong jazz, hot jazz, swing and even early R&B influences.  I'm not saying
"narrow" as a criticism; it's just that there's not that much of it
compared to these other forms of country music. However Western Swing did
influence the development of country music and you can hear a lot more of
what it influenced than you can hear genuine Western Swing.
I don't think it's accurate to say that Western Swing "retained" the black
influence so much as it "inserted" them back in the music.
I listen to lots of country and bluegrass but very little Western Swing. I
have some of the compilations mentioned here but for me they're more "fun"
than essential. I put it in a narrow corner of my taste along with old rock
n roll, Louis Jordan and other forms of rollicking, good time party music.

I don't really like happy party music much in any genre.  I'm more into the
melancholy and emotional.  (Not that partying is not an emotion...)

There's a lot of lickety-split fast-picking musicianship to bluegrass and
that's not really what I value in it, though it has its pleasures.
I can be cynical about words like this but I love bluegrass because it's
real and pure.  I  hear human beings expressing themselves with a kind of
directness that I don't hear in lots of music, even music I love.
I also love the obsession with murder ballads and other gothic tales.
But even when they're singing about Jesus, I don't care because it's not
what they're singing about but the emotion and passion that connects for me.

I haven't answered your question.  Bluegrass is mountain music and Western
swing is more city music.

Enough about country music today.

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Subject: (exotica) Command on CD
Date: 25 Jul 1999 13:25:14 +0000


From what I can determine, there are 4 CDs which dip into the Command
library, not
one of which probably covers everything, but each one has some cuts you can't
find elsewhere on CD.  So, to get as much as you can get, you have to buy 3
CDs with some duplication.

It is too bad someone just can't issue a 4 CD set with no duplication.

The Good Music Company is selling a 2 CD set called Persuasive Percussion.
This looks like a straight reissue off the double album reissue (which left
some
cuts off from the original releases).

Compare with the two Verese Sarabande recordings: Persuasive Percussion
(which has all of Persuasive Percussion and 6 cuts from volume 2) and
Provacative
Percussion which has all of Provocative Percussion and  6 cuts from volume 2.

The Good Music company set has several cuts not on either of the VS:
Mack the Knife, Out of Nowhere, Yours is My Heart Alone, La Cucaracha, Lady
of Spain,   Speak to Me of Love Cha Cha and Theme from Polyvetsian Dances.

Meanwhile, the VS CD Persuasive Percussion has two cuts not on the Good Music
set:  The Breeze and I, Dearly Beloved (a cut from the original LP volume 1
and
a cut from the LP volume 2).

Also, the VS CD Provacative Percussion has three cuts not on the Good Music
set:
Matilda, Good Night Sweetheart Cha Cha and The Lady is a Tramp, all from
Command's Prov. Perc. Vol. 2.

I didn't compare all the Command cuts for the CDs, but something tells me all
four of these CDs don't have everything you can get by buying the records.

And some people wonder why I buy records!

Byron

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 25 Jul 1999 17:28:45 -0400


> >Can anyone describe the difference between bluegrass and western swing
> please?

I'm not close to being an expert on either genre, but I'll add the stereotypes
that I have.  When I think of bluegrass music, I think of a small huddle of
musicians playing fiddles, mandolins, bass fiddles, acoustic guitars, and other
such stringed acoustic instruments, with the only percussion being an
occassional clanging together of two spoons.   The Washington D.C. area has the
largest fan base of bluegrass fans in the U.S., and the events I have been to
have tended to be either day-long mild-mannered outdoor festivals or an indoor,
intimate setting (often at locations that do not sell alcohol)  This is probably
similar to the early 60's folk scene.

When I think of western swing, I always picture a full drumset being used, and
the setting has moved indoors to a large hall with a more 'rowdy' crowd and more
beer being sold.  The emphasis has shifted from the audience appreciating
'individual musicianship' to getting out on the large dance floor and swinging
your partner around.

In between the two genres (but leaning towards bluegrass), I place Contra Dance
Music, which features various energetic line dances while an all acoustic band
(usually no drums) supplies the music.

I'm sure there are lots of exceptions that I'm not aware of.

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Billy Tipton (was Western Swing)
Date: 25 Jul 1999 17:34:30 -0400 (EDT)


Two side notes:
Apparently when Billy died, her wife and children were as surprised as
everyone else to find she wasn't a man.  The kids were all adopted and
apparently he used to insist on having the lights off.  If ya know what
I mean.  :)

Also, if anyone likes kick-ass riff jazz, check out the Billy Tipton
Memorial Saxophone Quartet.  They are an all woman (except for the
original drummer) sax quartet that play really excellent hot, groovish
jazz.
Not exactly exotic, but it's pretty impossible to not get up and dance
when it's playing.

Anyway,
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Subject: (exotica) Western Swing, Bluegrass & Exotica
Date: 25 Jul 1999 17:32:10 EDT


Eegad, such a lot of misconceptions about country music.

I'll have to add some contrarian opinions to Bruno's take on Bluegrass and
Western Swing.  Western Swing can hardly be called a City music -
it's...well, Western.  Played in dinky honky tonks across Texas and Oklahoma,
and later California.  I wouldn't call it a narrow phenomenon either.  It was
an incredibly popular dance music for working class whites west of the
Mississippi from the '30s through '50s.  It incorporated string band
fiddling, hot jazz rhythms, jazzy guitar, jump blues arrangements.  In other
words, it was a magnificent bastard genre.

Much like Bluegrass.  While early country was one of the main tributaries,
Bluegrass proper begins with Bill Monroe.  He took Appalachian music (fueled
by scottish and english ballads) and mixed it with strings bands, and blues
styles and formed a new, jazzy style defined largely by himself on mandolin,
and Lester Scruggs on Banjo.  Over time it became synonamous with hot picking
banjo licks (like the theme to "Deliverence" or "Beverly Hillbillies"), but
in recent years the vocal element (Alison Krauss) has come to the fore.

There are some clear connections between country music and exotica.
Primarily through steel guitar (Speedy West did many exotica cuts, as did
Jerry Byrd and most of the other great steel guitar players).  Alvino Rey
played pop, country and exotica.  I got into exotica through the backdoor,
after listening to lots of surf guitar (which has a strong connection with
country guitar instrumentals - particularly the Bakersfield sound which was
developing on the Telecaster concurrently with surf guitar's evolution on the
Strat).

Let me add my vote for "open ears" as the definining virtue of this list.
I've heard some very odd country music, using fuzz guitars, or with odd
lyrics which clearly qualify as the kind of odd music that exoticats desire.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 25 Jul 1999 18:11:20 EDT


In a message dated 7/25/99 12:46:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I haven't answered your question.  Bluegrass is mountain music and Western
 swing is more city music.

 Enough about country music today. >>


most bluegrass is instrumental (right???) and Western Swing is instrumental
but with a dance beat.

does this help.

tiki "thank god i'm an exotica-country boy" bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 25 Jul 1999 18:14:01 EDT


In a message dated 7/25/99 2:29:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< When I think of western swing, I always picture a full drumset being used,
and
 the setting has moved indoors to a large hall with a more 'rowdy' crowd and
more
 beer being sold >>


also geographic.  bluegrass is based on the "blue grass state" which is
Kentucky and western swing has a western state origin (Texas, Oklahoma,
Nevada, etc.)

more to add to the confusion,

tiki bob


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Airchecks:Radio:Reel Top 40 Radio Repository
Date: 25 Jul 1999 18:49:43 EDT



In a message dated 7/23/99 6:15:44 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Right
>now I'm listening to Radio Jingles from the mid 1960s  for WLS radio in
Chicago

I just got my mitts on a tape of a 20 minute segment of old radio jingles for
WABC in NYC b/w a collage of their WAB(eatle)C promos from the same period.
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Subject: (exotica) Re:=) this?
Date: 25 Jul 1999 18:44:41 EDT



In a message dated 7/23/99 2:28:44 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Or, do what I did...which was blow my wad(goodness!) at Other
>Music....before I could even GET to Footlight

But OOOOH when you do get to Footlight......Almost all vinyl. Almost all
plastic bagged. The entire shop is just easy listening, soundtracks and torch
singers of the unknown variety. But like the man says, you pay dearly.......


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From: Fish Wich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) (sort of off topic) Lauryn Hill "Everything is Everything" video
Date: 25 Jul 1999 21:44:43 -0400 (EDT)


Has anyone else seen the video for Lauryn Hill's song
Everything is Everything?  In it, the island of
Manhattan is made into an Lp record rotating around
the Empire State Building with streets as the grooves.
 The Brooklyn Bridge is the tone arm with a needle at
the end.  Every so often a hand drops from the sky to
do some scratching, tripping up the people on the
sidewalk.

I'm not sure about regular MTV but Muchmusic and MTV2
are playing the hell out of it.  Even if Lauryn Hill
isn't your thing the video is still pretty cool.

Regards,

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 26 Jul 1999 03:41:18 -0400


At 06:11 PM 7/25/99 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>most bluegrass is instrumental (right???) and Western Swing is instrumental
>but with a dance beat.

Wrong.  Neither of them is mostly instrumental.



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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Re: El Chicles
Date: 26 Jul 1999 09:57:30 +0100


My local record shop has a copy of this if you want I will buy you it and
forward it




>        I recently bought, a couple of LP's one The Snake, by El
>Chicles,

    hark! that's a Belgian band (i think...)
    there was a recent release "The Best Of" on
    Selection Club that i can't find anywhere...

        Johan


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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 26 Jul 1999 03:14:46 PDT


>
>  Has anyone read "Lone Star Swing" by Duncan McLean?  It's a pretty
>interesting
> > book about a Scot travelling around Texas in search of authentic
>Western
> > Swing.  He doesn't find a whole heck of a lot of it, but it's an
>interesting
> > book.  He even talks to some of the orignial Texas Playboys (some of
>whom have
> > since passed.)
> > Michael Zadoorian

i only read one brief passage of this that i read years ago, he's out in
some songwriter's ranch at 11 in the morning, the guys drinking from a
pitcher of iced chocolate milk and vodka. he gets a phone call from some
younger songwriter, when it's over he goes 'he's a good young writer, but
he's not quite on it yet. he'll be there when he's had his first divorce'. a
friend of mine was 'sent to nashville' to write songs for country producers,
unfortunately he doesn't have a commercial bone in his body and fucked up
songs about urban drug abusers don't really go down too well apparently.
anyway, i love country music. the only pop music i listen to is country
music. the likes of will oldham, the handsome family and calexico (who i saw
in kilkenny recently, they played sundown by lee and nancy as an encore) are
american primitive / gothic / exotics (respectively). they may not be exotic
to the americans on the list, i recall johan being uncomfortable  with
someone talking about jacques brel (too belgian), but they certainly are to
me.  i feel the tex mex border desert listening to calexico and it's a
holiday from grey ireland, like listening to denny. with evil twisted
lyrics.
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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) peter thomas presents....
Date: 26 Jul 1999 05:25:16 PDT


...a load of old shite unfortunately. the septuagenarian who ran the shop
thought i was fierce unhip for getting this 'peter thomas orcestra presents
big band tunes' and tried to persuade me to got for some bert kaemfert
instead. but i would not be deterred. there's just one pt original (and a
barely listenable version of delilah) the rest of the record is AWFUL.

also despite the best advice of the list i got a phase 2 sampler for a harry
roche constellation version of hawai 5-oh. nice, but where's the second good
cut phase 2 are supposed to have (ok there's a cheesy hammond version of
'age of aquarius', though i'll still listen to the original japanese cast
recording for preference).

and an a&m sampler with baja marimba band featuring julius wechter doing
list favourite legrands windmills of your mind and claudine longet doing a
misguided 'sexy' take on scarborough fair. no honey, it's not sexy and it's
not meant to be. the herb alpert 'tlks to the animals' might make it to a
kids music tape.

oh and finally got a copy of switched on bach, i refuse to pay real money
for a record like this. the swingle singers doing bach however. that's a
very different story. achingly beautiful for a sunny morning like today. i
used to feel guilty about liking them so much (the i listen to shite music
ache) untill i found out that iannis xenakis uses them for his recordings.
godlike.

i crave your indulgence for my blathering
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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Test Card Classics......
Date: 26 Jul 1999 08:44:20 -0400



Let's go out to the Lobby . . . . . . . .=20

Technically, that's a snack-bar ad for the dreaded "hard top" theaters.....=
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Texas polka (out of One from the Heart)
Date: 26 Jul 1999 13:48:35 +0100


Dom Ciccone said " Looking forward to seeing this Brian Marshall & his
Tex-Slavik Playboys. Its a, get this, Texas Polka band. You learn
something new every day. According to the Boston Globe there were Polish
settlements in Texas back in the 1850's and it's closer to the
old-country stuff that Chicago polka."

I was in southern Texas,  around San Antonio for a few days about 8
years ago,  driving around (went to the folk life festival actually,
very good) listening to the local radio stations, as you do.  I was
looking for Country and Tex Mex music,  there was very little country,
but a lot of what I at first took to be Tex Mex,  but when you heard the
announcers,  they were not speaking Spanish.  For some reason I got the
idea  that they were Hungarian,  but I think the general term Germanic
or Middle European does it.  Tex Mex thrived on the fact the some of the
finest German accordion makers moved out to Texas at the turn of the
century.  In fact I could hear surprisingly little Spanish language
music.  So I think that really the Texas Polka thing should be no
surprise considering the better known Tex Mex music.

Sorry for the clumsiness of all that sentence construction.

And on the subject of Texas Polka,  theres a song by that name on the
bizarre Texas Funeral album by Jon Wayne (aka John Whayne?).  I would
recommend as murky, clumsy, drunken, fuzzed up country.

Mr Engineer,  Faders up

El Maestro Con Queso

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Andrew Edgar
Date: 26 Jul 1999 14:52:45 +0200




>Sorry If I pissed you off Magnus, guess I'm now persona non grata on =
the
>list


Well why should you be that
I just you came in and made a lotta noice

exoticats on this list is people I care about that speaks
about music with passion

If you want to discuss, i first recommend an excursion into the true =
exotica of the 50s, which you told me wasnt your thing. I think most of =
us have that music closest to us, me anyway. And it was most surely the =
thing that made this list in the first place.

But, I feel really bad about my sour email about you, sorry. It wasnt =
right.
Dont leave because of me please, Edgar.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) legal low-power FM possibility
Date: 26 Jul 1999 10:02:58 EDT


In a message dated 07/25/99 10:15:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< The FCC is accepting public comment on legalizing low-power FM stations:

 http://www.fcc.gov/mmb/prd/lpfm/

 Ron... your move.
  >>

Actually I think they said, "Ron ! ! ! !  Don't move ! ! ! !"

Oops.

Tiki Bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) legal low-power FM possibility
Date: 26 Jul 1999 10:10:07 EDT


In a message dated 07/26/99 10:07:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Actually I think they said, "Ron ! ! ! !  Don't move ! ! ! !"

 Oops.

 Tiki Bob
  >>


On recollection, it was:  Ron  ! ! !   Don't move ! ! ! !  You FM bootlegging
bastard or the Telefunken gets it!

Oh God, I just responded to one of my own post.  I guess I like to hear
myself type.

Tiki Bob


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The Hellers On Ebay
Date: 26 Jul 1999 10:31:51 EDT


While browsing, I spotted this scarce LP up for sale on Ebay:

THE HELLERS
Singers...Talkers...Players...Swingers...& Doers
Command RS 934 SD

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=137035592

Hugh Heller is the man behind it all.  President of HELLER-FERGUSON INC,
producers of radio and television commercials.

There is also a little 10 inch promo (not on Ebay) starring THE HELLERS and
JOHNNY SPOTS, PRIVATE EAR (Ben Chandler) titled:

Creative Freakout - Advertising Protest Songs

Go bid now!







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Subject: RE: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???
Date: 26 Jul 1999 11:39:29 -0400



Would any member care to make a comment (or comments) regarding their=20
prefrences/experiences with CD changers?

I broke down a few years ago and retired my single play technics for a
5-disc Sony carousel.  I generally DESPISE Sony, but found that they =
had the
best product for the price at the time (4 years ago).  My CDs are in =
great
shape, the carousel is very gentle to them.  That's just as long as you
insert them properly and lay them gently upon the revolver.  It is not
designed for rapid change, tho.  I tried to DJ a party with it and got
frustrated pretty quickly, I wanted my single player back that night.  =
But
for sheer EZ-listening, load it with your UL discs and hit shuffle.  =
You
will not need to put down your wahine to change discs all night.=20

visit=20
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at http://www.brimstones.com
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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) The Byrds and the C.H.I.M.P.S(C.H.U.M.P)
Date: 26 Jul 1999 11:38:53 -0400 (EDT)


Foist of all, in the "What Were They THINKING
Category..."  I had the EXTREME displeasure of hearing
the Byrds 1990-91 recording of the dreaded Bette
Midler hit "Wind Beneath My Wings."  I guess what
Charlie Watts said about Brian Jones holds true for
that Bloated David Crosby"drugs werent' good for 'im."

Now...to LANCELOT LINK, SECRET CHIMP!  I am so mad
about that show, what little I've seen(I have the View
Master reels to keep me company, no cable!)..and I
need to know if a soundtrack was ever put out to
it???!?  Great action-now-sound-crime-jazz backings!
Jane "monkeywoman" Fondle

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Michael Uhlenkott's Tiki art
Date: 26 Jul 1999 17:51:27 +0200


 http://www.jett.net/~gyra/mu/mu.html

Here's another brave attempt of me to turn you guys on to tiki art. This
time the exhibition of Michael Uhlenkott at the Herb Lane (web) Museum.
Michael is a multi-talented guy. For instance did he write most songs
for the legendary Californian band "Monitor". He was a Tiki revival
pioneer of the first hour. He and his pals started collecting tiki stuff
way back in the early 80s, if not late 70s. He also was in "The Tikis" I
believe.
I understand he does these graphics with the computer, but I haven't
found out how they come at your living-room wall. Anyway, you can check
it out and contact him yourself if you want.

Mo

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) The Byrds and the C.H.I.M.P.S(C.H.U.M.P)
Date: 26 Jul 1999 18:07:30 +0200


>Now...to LANCELOT LINK, SECRET CHIMP!  I am so mad
>about that show, what little I've seen(I have the View
>Master reels to keep me company, no cable!)..and I
>need to know if a soundtrack was ever put out to
>it???!?  Great action-now-sound-crime-jazz backings!
>Jane "monkeywoman" Fondle


there is a soundtrack

"Lancelot Link and the evolution revolution" or something like that

spot it now and then at the fleas, will buy it for you next time.

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Date: 26 Jul 1999 09:23:27 -0700


I'm going to attempt to ramble incoherently about the distinction between
bluegrass and western swing.

Bluegrass is a relatively modern term (C 1940s) given to a commercialized
version of traditional folk musics of the southeast. The term "bluegrass"
comes
from Bill Monroe and his Bluegrass Boys. Bill Monroe definitely did the most
for the music -- his contribution as a songwriter and mandolinist, and his
position as a mentor to countless bluegrass musicians (not unlike the roles of
Miles Davis or Art Blakey in their revolving cast jazz combos) is unrivaled.
Many of Monroe's bandmembers became hugely successful in their own right -
most
notably, the group of Lester Flatt and Earl Scruggs.

Before Bill Monroe's time on the WSM Grand Ole Opry (a popular radio show
which
showcased country artists), and his band's association with the music, what we
call "bluegrass" was commonly referred to a "hillbilly music." I think he was
playing on the show as early as the 30s, but I'm not positive on any dates.
Anyone know?

The style's roots go back to the British isles. Many songs in the Celtic
tradition are identical in Bluegrass, only they have different names. This is
especially true for what Bluegrass musicians call "fiddle tunes" - reels and
the like that focus on the fiddle. The immigrants from these places to
America's southeast brought this music with them. Bill Monroe packaged it for
the radio public as "Bluegrass."

The music's roots also include African-American influences. Particularly, the
banjo which was brought to America by enslaved Africans. In areas (typically
mountain areas around the plantation South) where escaped and freed slaves
lived among poor whites, the banjo began to undergo transformation to the
modern 5-string version used in bluegrass. Also, certain rhythmic influences,
song subjects, and other styles began to trade hands. Though bluegrass and
variants (like "Old Timey" - a sort of non-commercial, anti Bill Monroe, more
traditionally "pure" variant of southern american folk music) are often
considered "white" music, they both owe *a lot* to the influence of African
culture.

Incidentally, "Old Timey" music is rawer, less slick, and sounds more
"mountain
home" than the commercial bluegrass sound. The banjo is also typically a bit
different design and played differently in Old Timey ("frailed" as opposed to
"three-finger" or "Scruggs" style). Email me privately if anyone cares to know
the difference.

Bluegrass instrumentation can typically include guitar, banjo, fiddle, bass
violin (plucked, never bowed), mandolin, and dobro (essentially a lap steel
guitar). Instruments are usually not electric, though modern bluegrass bands
often cheat with an electric bass. The rhythm is typically 4/4, or
occasionally
a waltz 3/4. Improvisation is central to the music - the songs are very simple
and the musicians take turns on "breaks" where they improvise over the chord
changes.

I know less about Western Swing... Like bluegrass, it is a commercial,
radio-influenced form of more traditional musics. Western Swing owes
(obviously) an influence to big band jazz sounds of the 30s and 40s, and also
to German and polish music (in the form of polka influence). At least, that's
what I've read, though I don't always hear it in the music.  Mexican culture
also had a big influence - Texas was the birthplace of Western Swing. The
instrumentation typically includes electric pedal or lap steel - a big
focus of
Western swing. Western swing, in fact, has a lot of electrification - electric
guitar, pedal steel. It also sometimes has some drums, which you will never
find in bluegrass, except in some 1970s "Newgrass" groups.

Western Swing is also sometimes called "Panhandle Swing," after the region in
Texas (the panhandle) where the music originated. The key to Western Swing is
really its stylized and commercial sound - this is definitely a music for the
age of radio, when Texas musicians could commercialize their music to
appeal to
listeners in New York or around the world. That's a key to this music, and
something that makes it "hybrid" in a sense, and appealing perhaps to exotica
fans in much the same way Martin Denny plays music some people think of as
"Tropical" or "Hawaiian."

I think of Western Swing as a very slick, Hollywood western type of music.
Bluegrass is also a commercial music, but one that emphasizes "down homeness."

Clark


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Andrew Edgar
Date: 26 Jul 1999 08:59:22 -0400






Am I the only one
who thinks
this boring brit
is serious pain?

>>>Are you CRAZY!  Andrew Edgar is the best player the Tijuana Brass ever
had!
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From: "Mark D. Head" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotic Italy
Date: 26 Jul 1999 10:52:28 -0500


Robert McKenna <[e-mail]> wrote:

>also finally heard the jazzanova remix of that morricone track done by
>balanco (they have a new album out), must say i was very disappointed,
they
>used barely any of the vocals which i think were the best thing about
the
>track in the first place.

I agree that the jazzanova remix is a weak entry on "More" by Balanco,
but
I must say, "More" has easily vaulted to the top of my recent favorites
list.
It's filled with outstanding original bossa novas, always one of my
favorite
musical styles.  I would highly recommend it to anyone who loves that
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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 26 Jul 1999 14:28:28 +0100





> >Can anyone describe the difference between bluegrass and western swing
> please?

For those of you who are  as ignorant about the subject of western swing as
I am/was please follow either of the two links below.

For some information on this subject.

http://www.geocities.com/~jimlowe/western/westdex.html

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Subject: RE: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???
Date: 26 Jul 1999 11:52:51 -0400







prefrences/experiences with CD changers?

I broke down a few years ago and retired my single play technics for a
5-disc Sony carousel.  I generally DESPISE Sony, but found that they had
the
best product for the price at the time (4 years ago).  My CDs are in great
shape, the carousel is very gentle to them.


>>Hello...daaahhhlllinnnggss...I probably have the same one as you, the
Sony 5-disc...here are my pros and cons about it!
1.  Pro-  I love to put in,say, a "now-sound" or "vocal jazz"
shuffle...it's nice to hear 5 albums at once!  It has never damaged my CDs,
either.
2.  No repeats!
3.  Con- My CD player MAY be defective, or this could just be a quirk of
these "shuffle-players, but I've had mine since 1993...and every once in
awhile...it either skips on the CDs...or plays :15 of them, and then
repeats or skips ahead!  I hate that!  It might just be dust,
though...Usually dusting it carefully(And the player, too, OH!)...works for
me!
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From: "Rajnai, Charles, NNAD" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Martin Denny -- Quiet Village
Date: 26 Jul 1999 12:33:04 -0400


On Ebay,

Who needs CDs?  Reel to Reel of Martin Denny's Quiet Village, bidding at
like $2.50

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=135640890


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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 26 Jul 1999 20:05:15 +0200



Thanks for all attempts at defing the difference between western Swing =
and bluegrass.
Much appreciated from me!!!

You are the best, and so is this exotica list

yee hah a go go
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Yet another exotica poem
Date: 26 Jul 1999 14:52:42 -0400


from Magy: (It seems I go more and more off topic
Just tell me to stop and I will)

I just want to go on record as saying I love your writing,and appreciate
you sharing it with us!  I doubt anybody wants you to stop, but I thought
somebody should say so "publicly."
Love, Jane Fondle
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From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Western Swing / CD Changers
Date: 26 Jul 1999 12:58:41 -0700


Hiya,

I was thinking today and I wonder if anyone else sees the cosmic
connection
between Bob Wills, Cab Calloway and Prez Prado?

Some responses...

#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#*#**#*#*#*#*#*#*

>Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:47:50 +0200
>From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) Western Swing
>
>Can anyone describe the difference between bluegrass and western swing =
>please?


Bluegrass is more banjos and guitars... more of the hillbilly/Appalachian
folk sort of thing. Western Swing is an amalgamate of cowboy music and
big band jazz. A Western Swing band almost always has a trumpet player,
which very few if any bluegrass bands include. One of the Bob Wills
Tiffany Transcriptions CDs had Wills versions of jazz classics like
Jumpin at the Woodside, Straighten Up and Fly Right, Nobody's Sweetheart
and Dinah. It's not Digga Digga Doo or Caravan, but it's darn close!

"AHHHH! HAH!"
          -Bob Wills

See ya
Steve

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>Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 08:26:11 EDT
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???
>
>Would any member care to make a comment (or comments) regarding their
>prefrences/experiences with CD changers?

I have a Sony carousel changer that holds 200 discs. You can set it
to randomly play songs in groups of 25 cds. I have it organized into
musical styles and I love to be able to switch from Country to Big
Band to Rock n Roll to Latin Mambo at the push of a button. It can
also be a study in contrasts to set it to play randomly for all 200
discs.

See ya
Steve

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>Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:48:15 -0400
>From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Western Swing

>I don't really like happy party music much in any genre.  I'm more into the
>melancholy and emotional.

Wills' Faded Love never fails to bring a tear to my eye.




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From: "Kevin C." <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Hawaiian version of Quiet Village?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 13:20:26 -0700


Any recommendations of "Hawaiian" recordings of Quiet Village? You know, steel
guitar, vibes, ukelele, etc.

Something available on CD is what I'm looking for. I imagine there might be some
good version on "small" Hawaiian labels. "Hard to find" stuff like that would be
fine.

Thanks folks,
Kevin Crossman
The Search for the Ultimate Mai Tai (major update last week)
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Subject: (exotica) space swing
Date: 26 Jul 1999 16:37:59 -0400






cc:
Hugh.
Coming soon to a record store near you - Astroslut!
@^@


Thanks fer sayin' so, sweety-pie, but it'll actually be available thru:
cdalley.com
and perhaps as-yet-to-be-named-sources!
Jane Fondle, shamless hu(ssy)ckster...



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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) space-travel update!
Date: 26 Jul 1999 17:20:32 -0400 (EDT)


http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/Reuters19990726_1797.html

See ya'll there!  Maybe there can be a
"Asteroid-Grind"
Jane Fondle, mit band willing to headline!
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Subject: (exotica) Lancelot Link in DC
Date: 26 Jul 1999 17:39:59 -0400


> Now...to LANCELOT LINK, SECRET CHIMP!  I am so mad
> about that show, what little I've seen(I have the View
> Master reels to keep me company, no cable!)

Those of you in the Washington D.C. area, the film "I Created Lancelot Link" is
being shown this Thursday with other short films.   I've already seen the film
and it is great.

"I created Lancelot Link - Jeff Krulik and Diane Bernard. This short film
takes a look back at at time before Chimp TV to the 70's show of the
short's name (Lancelot Link).  The short mixes original show footage with
interviews with its creators for some interesting and funny juxtapositions.
 The Village Voice called the film "a cool bit of pop-culture archaelogy.
The short was the winner of the best documentary award at the 1999 New York
Underground Film Festival."

DATE:  JULY 29
PLACE:  Studio 650, Atlantic Video, 650 Massachusetts Ave NW
TIME:  Doors open 6:45, films start at 7:30
Q&A after the films.



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From: "Dick Diablo" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Exotic Western Swing
Date: 27 Jul 1999 03:39:09 -0400


Jeez, we bail 'em out back in W-W-II, and the Brit's are still calling us a
bunch of smelly rednecks... but seriously, I readily concur on the
recommendation of Speedy West and James Bryant. The Stratosphere Boogie cd
is a good place to start for any exoticat interested in the genre. Hell,
Jack Diamond used to play it on his show - and we all know how cranky he can
be.

The pedal steel guitar used in western swing metamorphized from the lap
guitar invented by Hawaiian cowboys of the late 19th century, so there IS an
exotic connection, historically speaking. And there's also Alvino Rey's
excellent pedal steel stylings used on numerous Esquivel recordings.

Double - 0 - Diablo



>
>Ignorance on parade:
>
>>Western Swing sounds like a load of smelly old shit, the absolute
>>antithesis of what exotica is, exotica is - hopefully that which
>>is exotic and not a load of smelly old rednecks going Yee-Ha
>
>I defy you to listen to Speedy West and Jimmy Bryant and not
>say that it is every bit as exotic as Esquivel and the Three
>Suns. Any genre that embraces yodelling, spacey pedal steel
>guitars, jazzy accordian solos and electrified mandolins is
>going to be exotic. No way around it.
>
>
>In short... Your ignorance is showing.
>
>Western Swing is one of my passions. If anyone is looking
>into this area, here are some good CDs to be on the lookout
>for...
>
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>
>Stratosphere Boogie: The Flaming Guitars of
>Speedy West and Jimmy Bryant (Razor & Tie)
>
>     This is the most aggressively *weird* music in the
>     genre. Crazy pedal steel swoops and jazzy guitar
>     picking. This is the perfect introduction to someone
>     who likes their music loopy and cartoony.
>
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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Byrds and the C.H.I.M.P.S(C.H.U.M.P)
Date: 26 Jul 1999 19:44:13 -0500


Jane Fondle wrote:

> Now...to LANCELOT LINK, SECRET CHIMP!  I am so mad
> about that show, what little I've seen(I have the View
> Master reels to keep me company, no cable!)..and I
> need to know if a soundtrack was ever put out to
> it???!?  Great action-now-sound-crime-jazz backings!
> Jane "monkeywoman" Fondle
>

Sadly the album ""Lancelot Link and the Evolution Revolution" (ABC 715) is a
fairly lame 70's pop vocal album.
I too was hoping it would be that great action scene music but it's basically
the songs that the band "performed" on the show.

Frank, with many fond(le?) memories of this show. Now only if I can get that
gum drop off my back molar.



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From: "Elisabeth Vincentelli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Who's that Israeli singer?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 19:57:09 -0500


Yesterday I was in a Manhattan coffee shop, and they were playing some
really wonderful pop. The woman behind the counter told me it was an Israeli
singer named Corina Al-Al --I'm not sure about the spelling at all. Has
anybody heard of her? I wouldn't call it "exotic" per se, but it's swell
anyway.

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From: Larson/Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Western Swing
Date: 26 Jul 1999 17:59:41 -0700


If you like evil twisted country lyrics you MUST hear a compilation CD =
called "God-less America," which includes songs dealing with drug =
addiction, mass murder, drunken mayhem, topless dancers, and other =
deadly sins.  Highly recommended, though not to everyone's taste, I'm =
sure.

Jerry

i feel the tex mex border desert listening to calexico and it's a=20
holiday from grey ireland, like listening to denny. with evil twisted=20
lyrics.
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Subject: Re: (exotica) CD Changers -- Opinions???
Date: 26 Jul 1999 21:24:01 EDT


In a message dated 7/26/99 8:42:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Would any member care to make a comment (or comments) regarding their
 prefrences/experiences with CD changers? >>


i might need to clarify my question.  i am talking about the big cd changers
that handle 50, 100, 200 or more cds.

thanks to all for the input

tiki bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Michael Uhlenkott's Tiki art
Date: 26 Jul 1999 21:29:38 EDT


In a message dated 7/26/99 8:52:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< http://www.jett.net/~gyra/mu/mu.html

 Here's another brave attempt of me to turn you guys on to tiki art. This
 time the exhibition of Michael Uhlenkott at the Herb Lane (web) Museum. >>


a couple of his things look like the CocoJoe's stuff we were talking about.
And I don't mean this badly or in a mean spirit.

(No shitty terms from me!!!)

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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) The Byrds and the C.H.I.M.P.S(C.H.U.M.P)
Date: 26 Jul 1999 21:31:17 EDT


In a message dated 7/26/99 9:13:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< "Lancelot Link and the evolution revolution" or something like that

 spot it now and then at the fleas, will buy it for you next time.

 Magnus
  >>


Very perceptive.  That was also the name of the band on the show.

Magnus, did you ever see the show???

They did have Marta (Lancy's love interest) in a blonde (Swedish???) wig from
time to time.

Tiki Bob


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Subject: (exotica) Maple Magnusvox CD Player
Date: 26 Jul 1999 21:34:47 EDT


For some reason this thing has bounced twice.


< >Would any member care to make a comment (or comments) regarding their
 >  >   >prefrences/experiences with CD changers?
 >  >


 Magnusvox makes a really sweet 6-foot maple console model, but it's
pretty
difficult to find.


m.ace  [e-mail] >>
 >  >
 I love it - I love it -  I love it ! ! ! !

I understand this Magnusvox concern is now based in Sweden and that
production has been off because the workers at the factory are prone to go
into long periods where they do nothing buy write poetry devoid of capital
letters (some socialist thing I am sure).

 I will have to look for this item tho.

Tiki Bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Hawaiian version of Quiet Village?
Date: 26 Jul 1999 21:49:30 EDT


In a message dated 7/26/99 1:24:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Any recommendations of "Hawaiian" recordings of Quiet Village? You know,
steel
 guitar, vibes, ukelele, etc.

 Something available on CD is what I'm looking for. I imagine there might be
some
 good version on "small" Hawaiian labels. "Hard to find" stuff like that
would be
 fine.
  >>

The Exotic Trilogy Vol II has a good version that is orchestrated and has
uleleles (I think it is Track 16).

The Trilogys are fun and as Mai Tai-ish as it gets.  The quality of the
recordings are sometimes poor tho.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Byrds and the C.H.I.M.P.S(C.H.U.M.P)
Date: 26 Jul 1999 23:21:03 EDT


Hey that's not right!  Lance Link may be a failure as spy jazz, but that
sdtrk is excellent bubblegum!  Check the Phantom Surfers on this subject in
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From: Bump <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Tiki art
Date: 27 Jul 1999 01:13:18 -0400


not sure if this was mentioned yet probably so but since we are on the
subject there seems to be a new book coming out soon called Taboo: The Art
of Tiki
 art of 30 artists including
shag, mark ryden, the pizz, charles schneider, bosko, anthony augang, coop,
mary fleener, jeffrey valance, robert williams, todd schorr, alan forbes
,moritz, steve thomsen and dave burke
96 pages 64 full color

available by mail order 9-99
in stores late 99

first softcover edition 2500 copies $24.95
hardback ltd. editions of 200, signed by mark ryden and shag for $65

outre gallery australia

reserve a copy at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~smasht/outre/book.htm

p.s no i do not work for them...just a fan.

it was one of the only interesting things i saw in the newest issue of
Juxtapoz.


also someone mentioned awhile back about the tiki shirts on clearance at
target.
they finally hit baltimore and i am stocked.
thanx for the tip.

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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Weekend Finds
Date: 27 Jul 1999 10:09:33 +0100




        Xavier Cugat-In Europe (1 Good track)
        Isaac Hayes-Shaft OST (Superb)
        Mongo Santamaria-Hey! Lets Party (Superb version of louie
louie)
        Wout Steenhuis and the Kontikis- eponymously titled (MMMMM
not so hot)
        Bacharach The Beatles and Bach go Bossa (Wonderfully
melodic)

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From: "Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]>
Subject: SV: (exotica) Maple Magnusvox CD Player
Date: 27 Jul 1999 14:31:15 +0200


Magnusvox makes a really sweet 6-foot maple console model, but it's=20
pretty=20
difficult to find.
   =20
> =20
>I understand this Magnusvox concern is now based in Sweden and that=20
>production has been off because the workers at the factory are prone to =
go=20
>into long periods where they do nothing buy write poetry devoid of =
capital=20
>letters (some socialist thing I am sure).


As the management director of Magnusvox industries i would like to take =
this oppurtunity to tell you all that the production will start again as =
soon as I find the workers. I have heard one of them is writing poetry =
yes, thats the lazy one. Now his work is really simple, all he has to do =
is testing the machines with old stereo LPs. He cant do that right =
either, keeps playing them ancient mono LPs. But he is not my big =
problem. My big problem is the designer... A lazy one too, but I have a =
hunch he is planning somthing really special for our new console model =
that will hit the scene very soon. If i just could find him. In fact I =
have never seen him. But he is around, I am sure. then there is Rex Kona =
and Sondi Sodsai and a bunch of people called the Surfmen. Apparently =
they are over seas, but they are on their way, so things should turn out =
OK.

Respect
and regards

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Subject: (exotica) Riki Fatar/Flame!
Date: 27 Jul 1999 07:54:50 -0700 (PDT)


I am having a crisis.  I have a TERRIBLE crush on Riki
Fatar...dang, I thought he was cute in the Rutles, but
upon seeing him wack-it(the drums) on the live Beach
Boys rekkid,I gotta admit it..I'm in a BAD WAY for
this boy...(of course, I am fearing I've mis-spelled
his name...)
Can somebody on either list tell me about the psyche
band he was in with Blondie Chaplain, The Flame?  Are
they good?  Is anything in print!
Jane "Flaming Desire" Fondle

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Arling & Cameron in Canada & US
Date: 27 Jul 1999 08:01:18 -0700 (PDT)


ARLING & CAMERON are playing live in the US and Canada.

Arling & Cameron will tour LIVE! also featuring Fay Lovsky (on theremin!),
ornithologist Jan Klug who will  give a lecture with slides and will play a
soundscape with flute and sax.  also V.O.L.V.O./75b and Tomoko Take will
provide video's.

arling & cameron live dates:
JULY99
28 Toronto - Gypsy Co-op
30 MontrΘal - Jello Bar
31 Philadelphia - Silk City
AUGUST99
 01 New York - Brownies
04 St. Louis - Firehouse
05 Chicago - Double Door
06 MontrΘal, Jello Bar
08 San Francisco - Justice League
09  Vancouver - The Chameleon Urban Lounge
10 Seattle - ARO.space
11 Los Angeles - The Roxy

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Riki Fatar/Flame!
Date: 27 Jul 1999 16:05:30 +0100


Ive got a similar problem with dorothy ashby, its the way she strums her
harp, its so damn funky

AR



I am having a crisis.  I have a TERRIBLE crush on Riki
Fatar...dang, I thought he was cute in the Rutles, but
upon seeing him wack-it(the drums) on the live Beach
Boys rekkid,I gotta admit it..I'm in a BAD WAY for
this boy...(of course, I am fearing I've mis-spelled
his name...)
Can somebody on either list tell me about the psyche
band he was in with Blondie Chaplain, The Flame?  Are
they good?  Is anything in print!
Jane "Flaming Desire" Fondle

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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Puka Shells
Date: 27 Jul 1999 16:15:14 +0100


I've been offered a copy of this LP very cheap, it is also sealed and never
played,


Does anyone know if it is any good


AR


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Subject: (exotica) Russ Meyer News
Date: 27 Jul 1999 09:02:56 -0700 (PDT)


LOS ANGELES (AP) Russ Meyer's former longtime lover
has been convicted of repeatedly punching the adult
film director in the face.

Debra Masson, 39, was convicted Monday of domestic
battery, elder abuse and battery. The two had lived
together for 14 years.

Prosecutors said Meyer, 77, was attacked May 26 while
napping on a couch at the Hollywood Hills home he
shared with Masson. Meyer told investigators he awoke
to find Masson standing over him, punching him in the
face.

Meyer fled to the home of a neighbor, who called
police. He was treated at a hospital for facial cuts
and bruises.

The director is best known for a series of porn films
produced in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Masson faces up to a $6,000 fine and one year in
prison on each count. She was scheduled to be
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"
Date: 27 Jul 1999 15:54:55 +0200


>[e-mail] wrote:
>
><< i don't think i ever contacted them about it. i don't mind ;-)

    [e-mail] replied:

    >what a noble gesture.  others would be busy securing lawyers.


        hm, call it lazy, rather than noble...

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Lefevre scores for the 'gendarme'
Date: 27 Jul 1999 15:01:11 +0200


Marco wrote:

>There's a GREAT cd by Raymond Lefevre, featuring his scores for the 'gendarme'
>movies by Louis de Funes.


    i agree! it's thanx to marco that i learned about this cd.
    i'd give it a 4 on a scale of 5.

    Johan





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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Esquivel news
Date: 27 Jul 1999 10:06:58 -0700 (PDT)


Andrea, who has a job which enables her to flirt with
every French cat on the Bomp! list...;0
This goes out to you!-Jane Fondle



  HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Writer-director Alexander
Payne, who  most recently shot the critically lauded
comedy ``Election,'' is  in talks to helm the biopic
``Esquivel.''
John Leguizamo will play Juan Garcia Esquivel, the
ground-breaking Mexican musician whose prolific
musical output  during the '60s typified the ``Hi-Fi''
sound of the day.  Leguizamo will also serve as a
producer of the Fox Searchlight  project.

While ``Esquivel'' will not be the next film for
Payne, the  picture joins a growing list of projects
Payne is developing as  future outings.

Payne and Jim Taylor (``Election,'' ``Citizen Ruth'')
currently are doing a rewrite of ``About Schmidt.''
The Columbia  Pictures project, which is based on
Louis Begley's novel about a  WASP attorney as he
ventures into retirement and marries off his
daughter, has been viewed as a starring vehicle for
Jack  Nicholson. Payne also has been developing the
adaptation of Paul  Auster's ``The Locked Room'' at
Fine Line.

While ``Schmidt'' and ``Locked Room'' are on the front
 burners, after the critical praise Payne received for
 ``Election,'' the Nebraska native continues to field
offers for  his directorial services. ``Election,''
the adaptation of Tom  Perrotta's satirical novel
which was recently released by  Paramount, followed
Payne's debut, the acclaimed satire  ``Citizen Ruth.''


Reuters/Variety


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From: Fish Wich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Tito Puente - Cuban Carnival CD
Date: 27 Jul 1999 10:28:23 -0700 (PDT)


I'm looking for the import CD (on RCA Spain or Germany
I think) of Tito Puente's album Cuban Carnival.  The
album is available domestically but the import has the
original cover art.  I'm having trouble locating it
and would appreciate any tips on where it might be
purchased.  Thanks..


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From: Hans Adell <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Incredibly Strange Message
Date: 27 Jul 1999 19:50:46 +0200


Huggh huhgg, na huvettha? -Snefylkum! Mohah bezatt nahm. Sjyh.

Fne!
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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Canny thrifts
Date: 27 Jul 1999 19:24:33 +0100


A work assignment to Newcastle Upon Tyne in the north east of England
brought an opportunity to hit some thrift shops, netting:
'Sample Mancini' 12 track 1972 sampler on RCA
'Mancini plays Mancini' RCA Camden 1969
and
'Ray Conniff's Hawaiian Album' 1975 budget reissue of 1967 album.
All three look pristine, not bad for just over a dollar a go.

I resisted buying other items, like:
what appeared to be a complete set of CBS, Studio 2 and Phase 4
samplers, a Manuel and the music of the mountains (aka Geoff Love)
sampler, and the obligatory Mantovani greatest hits album.  But, I might
go back tomorrow........

The 'Sample Mancini' album (RCA Victor SAS 1000) might even be a
desirable item to a Mancini completist.  I'm looking forward to playing
it when I get back home.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Incredibly Strange Message
Date: 27 Jul 1999 19:32:40 +0100


Hans Adell wrote:
>
> Huggh huhgg, na huvettha? -Snefylkum! Mohah bezatt nahm. Sjyh.
>
> Fne!
> /Q. Mahuba (na znett baha HA HA)
>

How pythonesque......
what's it mean then?

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Date: 27 Jul 1999 14:40:09 -0400






Hans Adell wrote:
>> Huggh huhgg, na huvettha? -Snefylkum! Mohah bezatt nahm. Sjyh.
>
> Fne!
> /Q. Mahuba (na znett baha HA HA)
>
How pythonesque......
what's it mean then?
Hugh  (no relation to Huggh or huhgg)


I didn't get this message...is the exotica list going on without me today??
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Subject: Re: SV: (exotica) Maple Magnusvox CD Player
Date: 27 Jul 1999 15:11:03 EDT


In a message dated 07/27/99 8:36:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Chief Watt
 Magnusvox industries >>


Great! ! ! !

How about if Magnusvox makes a 5 Lp Changer that has a tray the size of a
door.  I could slide out and you could put 5 LPs on it.

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Date: 27 Jul 1999 15:39:09 EDT


In a message dated 07/27/99 12:02:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< LOS ANGELES (AP) Russ Meyer's former longtime lover
 has been convicted of repeatedly punching the adult
 film director in the face.  >>

What did she punch him with?  It seem the obvious question given Meyer's
propensity towards (how do I say this carefully) women with big boobies.

I mean really.  I coulda just happened.

Tiki Bob


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Date: 27 Jul 1999 15:41:01 EDT


In a message dated 07/27/99 12:02:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< LOS ANGELES (AP) Russ Meyer's former longtime lover
 has been convicted of repeatedly punching the adult
 film director in the face.  >>


Has anyone thought of introducing our Jane to Mr. Meyer.  Boy, wit' dat bra
collection dat' girl got ---  well ---- "She oughta be in pictures!!!!"

Musing,

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In a message dated 07/27/99 3:15:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I could slide out and you could put 5 LPs on it. >>


That was suppose to be "It" could slide out.

Then again, if you want me to slide out -- I will slide out.

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Date: 27 Jul 1999 15:42:26 EDT


In a message dated 07/27/99 12:02:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< LOS ANGELES (AP) Russ Meyer's former longtime lover
 has been convicted of repeatedly punching the adult
 film director in the face.  >>


One last one --- If she would have tried to smother him he would have not
reported her!

WhoHa!

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Date: 27 Jul 1999 15:44:57 EDT


In a message dated 07/27/99 3:38:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< >>>>Put an extra tray on there, for serving drinks! yee-haw-Jane Fondle!!
>>


my computer has one of those.  it has gotten a little gummed up from me
sloshing Mai Tais.

tb


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Subject: (exotica) Breakfast of Champions
Date: 27 Jul 1999 15:24:25 EDT


This is a copy of an email reply from Mr. Duchamp.  I sent him an email
originally asking him what he thought of the soundtrack to Breakfast of
Champions.  I found a review of the movie he wrote on the net.

Unfortunately, most of the reviews are poor.  I guess we will have to see
when the movie comes out.

Tiki Bob

In a message dated 7/26/99 6:53:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Rcbrooksod
writes:

Subj:    Re: Breakfast of Champions

Thanks for your kind comments.  There are many of us that are looking
forward to seeing the movie more for the Martin Denny music than to see the
plot.  Mr. Denny has communicated that he was excited to have his music
featured in the film.

Mr. Denny is 88 years old now and retired in Honolulu.  For those of us that
are fans of his music, we appreciate that he is getting recognition/exposure
with this movie in the twilight years of his life.  I kinda makes it all
worth while.

Regards,

Robert Brooks

In a message dated 7/26/99 1:41:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

Subj:    Re: Breakfast of Champions

Hi Robert, it's been a while now, but as I recall, I did enjoy the
soundtrack music. I recall the opening music being similar to Mancini's Pink
Panther music. Quite appropriate for the film, I thought. And the music also
did a good job in embellishing the accelerating madness in the film.

Then again, my recollections may be faulty. During the festival, I saw about
60 movies in 2.5 weeks, so though some things remain distinct in my
memories, others have blurred together.

Regards,

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In a message dated 07/27/99 8:36:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Chief Watt
 Magnusvox industries >>

Great! ! ! !
How about if Magnusvox makes a 5 Lp Changer that has a tray the size of a
door.  I could slide out and you could put 5 LPs on it.
tiki bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Russ Meyer News
Date: 27 Jul 1999 12:54:44 -0700 (PDT)




--- [e-mail] wrote:
> In a message dated 07/27/99 12:02:26 PM Eastern
>
> Has anyone thought of introducing our Jane to Mr.
> Meyer.  Boy, wit' dat bra
> collection dat' girl got ---  well ---- "She oughta
> be in pictures!!!!"
>
> Musing,
>
> Tiki Bob
>

Funny, I didn't think merely having a collection of
bras would rate one a Russ Meyer star...What if
they're training bras?  Then what?
Seriously, I heard there was a SACRELIGIOUS remake in
the woiks of BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS!  NOBODY
ASKED ME!
Dang,
Jane
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Subject: (exotica) Western Swing / CD Changers
Date: 27 Jul 1999 16:02:58 -0400


 >I was thinking today and I wonder if anyone else sees the cosmic
connection between Bob Wills, Cab Calloway and Prez Prado?

"Hoo!" - Perez Prado
"Hi-de-hooo!" - Cab Calloway
Bob Willis probably played a "Hoedown".

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Date: 27 Jul 1999 16:02:37 -0400






In a message dated 07/27/99 3:15:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I could slide out and you could put 5 LPs on it. >>


That was suppose to be "It" could slide out.

Then again, if you want me to slide out -- I will slide out.

tb


Now, Tiki Bob, that is NOT a safe method of birth control!
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From: "Amanda Cavataio" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 27 Jul 1999 13:26:38 PDT


I was searching through the various artists of Atlantic Records the other
day and I came upon someone quite interesting.  Dimitri From Paris is a
fellow from Europe whose major influences are Martin Denny and Les Baxter.
Apparently, and I've only heard clips, he's got a whole groove, funk, mixed,
electronic exotica thing happening.  He's only released 2 albums since 1998
and has been involved in many fashion shows in Europe. I'd love to buy his
albums, but I was wondering if anyone out there may have some opinions about
Dimitri From Paris before I chuck that $13.xx into cyberspace.

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Date: 27 Jul 1999 16:32:03 -0400





Alright...who put you up to this, Hans...Moritz, Magy?
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From: "telstar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Playlist for "Mondo Bongos" July 28, 1999
Date: 27 Jul 1999 16:59:47 -0400


"Mondo Bongos" can be heard every Wednesday mornings at 9 on CFRU 93.3fm in
Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Comments & questions welcome.

Nancy Sinatra: Some Velvet Morning "Movin' With Nancy"
Seks Bomba - The Cat "Operation Bomba"

Enoch Light - Whatever Lola Wants "Persuasive Percussion"
Morton Stevens - Operation Smash "Hawaii Five-O"
Henry Mancini - Peter Gunn "Gunn...Number One!"
Samy Kaye & his Orchestra - Hush...Hush Sweet Charlotte "Swing & Sway Au
GoGo"

Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - The Wedge "Checkered Flag"
Savage Republic - O Andonis 7"
Seks Bomba - Satan's Shriners "Operation Bomba"
Ganim's Asia Minors - Daddy Lolo "Jungle Exotica"

Wall of Voodoo - Mexican Radio "Call of the West"
Gershon Kingsley - Popcorn "Music to Moog By"
Ennio Morricone - Jokes on the Side "Duck You Sucker"

Sammy Kaye & His Orchestra - Italiano Au GoGo "Swing & Sway Au Go Go"
Werner Muller & His Orchestra - Hawaiian Eye Theme "Hawaiian Swing" [thanks
Cheryl & Brian]
Henry Mancini & His Orchestra - Hawaiian War Chant "Music of Hawaii"
Edmundo Ros - The Sweetest Sounds "Latin Love-In"

Thanks for reading,

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 27 Jul 1999 17:10:36 EDT



In a message dated 7/27/99 4:28:29 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I was wondering if anyone out there may have some opinions about
>Dimitri From Paris before I chuck that $13.xx into cyberspace.

Probably the biggest lounge "hit" album to date. If you never heard it you'll
like it. I'm tired of it but not because its not good. I just get sick of
rekkids kinda quickly..Jimmy/off to get another fix


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Puka Shells
Date: 27 Jul 1999 23:50:29 +0200




Andrew Edgar wrote:

> I've been offered a copy of this LP very cheap, it is also sealed and never
> played,

I think you should buy it. The title song is a rare vocal exotica piece and
quite romantic.

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Subject: (exotica) Lance Link, Secret Chimp
Date: 27 Jul 1999 13:52:59 -0700 (PDT)


The Evolution Revolution is the primate band that
plays one song per episode, in the middle of the show,
after being introduced by a bad Ed Sullivan
chimpersonator.  The songs are similar in flavor to
the Banana Splits' stuff, if you've heard that (and if
not, it all falls into the same category with Josie &
the Pussycats, the Archies, Jabberjaw, and the great
music playing when the Scooby Doo kids are dancing in
the pizza place).

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Shag [was (exotica) Tiki art]
Date: 27 Jul 1999 18:29:10 -0400 (EDT)


At 01:13 AM 7/27/99 -0400, Bump wrote:
>
>not sure if this was mentioned yet probably so but since we are on the
>subject there seems to be a new book coming out soon called Taboo: The Art
>of Tiki
> art of 30 artists including
>shag, mark ryden, the pizz, charles schneider, bosko, anthony augang, coop,

Speaking of Shag, I just noticed another example of his Tiki-inspired CD art.
Does anyone know anything about the CD it decorates - Big Kahuna and The
Copa Cat Pack: Hawaiian Swing, on Concord (1999)? Big Kahuna seems to be a
guy named Matt Catingub. From memory, some tunes on the disc are Come on-a
my house, A-tisket A-tasket, Night In Tunisia, Blue Hawaii, and Hawaiian War
Chant.

-Lou




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"
Date: 27 Jul 1999 18:29:16 -0400 (EDT)


At 03:54 PM 7/27/99 +0200, Johan wrote:
>
>>[e-mail] wrote:
>><< i don't think i ever contacted them about it. i don't mind ;-)
>
>    [e-mail] replied:
>    >what a noble gesture.  others would be busy securing lawyers.
>
>        hm, call it lazy, rather than noble...
>            Johan

Oh, it's pretty obvious that the authors are familiar with Johan's site (and
this list as well).

The reference section at the back lists just 5 web sites:
1) Dada'quariums
2) Exotica Standards
3) Exotica Mailing list
4) Goldmine online
5) Vic Trola's Lounge Of Self Indulgence

-Lou




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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "Exotiquarium"
Date: 27 Jul 1999 16:17:34 -0700


Lou Smith wrote:
> The reference section at the back lists just 5 web sites:
> 2) Exotica Standards

Looks like the Exotica Standards site is dead...1
(http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm)

-Kevin Crossman


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Subject: (exotica) Hunting for Bruno/Nat
Date: 27 Jul 1999 19:37:10 EDT


Sorry to interrupt like this, but will Bruno otherwise known as Nat  please
contact me?


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Subject: (exotica) Brother Cleve
Date: 27 Jul 1999 19:41:50 EDT


Our Combustible Ceyboardist moved recently and discovered after setting up in
his new digs that his computer was combustible. He is busy as ever and I will
be happy to forward any messages any listers may have for him while he mulls
over whether to buy a new computer or spend $800.00 to repair the one he
has.........Jimmy Botticelli/headed over to the B-Side Lounge in Cambridge
where he  mixes cocktails on Tuesdays. (Order a "Stardust". They are
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 27 Jul 1999 22:29:16 EDT


In a message dated 7/27/99 4:28:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> I was searching through the various artists of Atlantic Records the other
>  day and I came upon someone quite interesting.  Dimitri From Paris is a
>  fellow from Europe whose major influences are Martin Denny and Les Baxter.
>  Apparently, and I've only heard clips, he's got a whole groove, funk,
mixed,
>  electronic exotica thing happening.  He's only released 2 albums since 1998
>  and has been involved in many fashion shows in Europe. I'd love to buy his
>  albums, but I was wondering if anyone out there may have some opinions
about
>  Dimitri From Paris before I chuck that $13.xx into cyberspace.

I'm sure Mr. Dimitri is a great guy and all but,  I got sick of the album
"Sacre Blue"  after listening to it once.

It's real simple house music, best listened to by people jam packed into a
sweltering club where epileptic mirror balls strobe and the air circulation
system keeps a near toxic flow of nicotine, CK1 and ecstasy laden
perspiration in the air.

The "very stylish girl" tune is the best thing on the disc and it takes 6-7
loops and beats them into the ground.  There's one song towards the end of
the CD that I swear is the demo setting on a forty-nine dollar Casio keyboard
that I owned in the late 1980's.  As I said it's probably great if you've
been dancing 8 straight hours while huffing ether, mainlining crystal meth,
chewing on a handful of morphine suppositories and engaging in Olympic class
frotterisim.  Otherwise, to me it's a real low priority listen, and maybe
worth five bucks used.

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From: cheryl <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 27 Jul 1999 22:33:11 -0400


I wouldn't classify his major influences as Martin Denny and Les
Baxter.  And I only know of one CD that he released (but I believe there
is a CD EP from Sacre Blue with different mixes out there).  Aside from
that - I love the CD, and would recommend buying it - but a word of
warning before you do.  Do NOT buy the domestic version - hunt out the
European import (this is assuming you live in North America, of course)
- the two are not the same CD - the domestic one has some different
tracks, which are more extended dance-mix type numbers - far less exotic
than the import.  It may cost more than $13 for the import, but I would
say it's worth it.

cheryl

Amanda Cavataio wrote:
>
> I was searching through the various artists of Atlantic Records the other
> day and I came upon someone quite interesting.  Dimitri From Paris is a
> fellow from Europe whose major influences are Martin Denny and Les Baxter.
> Apparently, and I've only heard clips, he's got a whole groove, funk, mixed,
> electronic exotica thing happening.  He's only released 2 albums since 1998
> and has been involved in many fashion shows in Europe. I'd love to buy his
> albums, but I was wondering if anyone out there may have some opinions about
> Dimitri From Paris before I chuck that $13.xx into cyberspace.


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From: "Elisabeth Vincentelli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Burt in Brooklyn!
Date: 27 Jul 1999 23:46:12 -0500


Hey there-

Fellow New Yorkers will be glad (or appalled) to hear that Burt Bacharach is
appearing at Asser Levy Seaside Park this Thursday at 8pm. My sources tell
me it's either free "or $5 for the good seats".

And what an evening it's going to be! First, the location: Asser Levy Park
is between Brighton Beach and the Coney Island Aquarium in the depths of
Brooklyn. The concert shell is right next to the road, insuring a constant
stream of noise and passing lights. Second: in addition to Burt himself, the
opening act will be Catskills comedian Mal Z Lawrence. Borscht Belt, here we
come! Since this show isn't well advertised, I assume the audience will
consist of a lot of locals. This may beat in insanity the time when I saw
The Master at Long Island's Westbury Music Fair, with its revolving round
stage and bizarre musty odor.

See you there.
Elisabeth


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Subject: (exotica) Really???  For Me????
Date: 27 Jul 1999 21:12:54 EDT


This type of email makes you feel improtant doesn't it?

BTW, I emailed every one on this "list" and wished them a happy "National
Tiki Day".  Won't you too???  I am sure they would enjoy the email.

Dubiously,

Tiki Bob

Subj:    Swing Vintage is now JAZZ BABY and is open for business!
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Hello

I am writing to you because you once inquired, via Email, about some aspect
of SWING VINTAGE, a Vintage clothing shop in Chicago.

If you have checked back to our web site at all over the past two years,
you know that Swing Vintage has been undergoing some reorganization.

The good news is that the business has now been renamed JAZZ BABY, and we
are open for business in a retail location here in Chicago!

Visit Jazz Baby at:

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Chicago, IL
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Every day from noon to eight PM.

773-868-0710

We carry Vintage Clothing, furniture, household items, and lots of other
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line of aromatherapy candles made right on the premises!

Please stop by for a visit.  Mention this Email or our web page, and
receive a 10% discount on your first purchase!

thank you

Dana and James Teitelbaum,

Proprietors,

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From: Lou Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) [news] Net Music Sales To Top USD2.6 Billion by 2003
Date: 27 Jul 1999 21:58:25 -0400 (EDT)


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Online music sales will generate USD2.6 billion in revenue by 2003,
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The ongoing debate on digital music distribution means that digital
sales revenue will total just USD147 million, representing just 5.7
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Jupiter points to the need for music labels to focus on building a
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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Happy National Tiki Day ! ! ! !
Date: 28 Jul 1999 08:41:58 EDT


Uh-oh!  I think I have started something !

In a message dated 07/27/99 9:31:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Moai king
writes:

<< Subj:    Re: Happy National Tiki Day ! ! ! !
 Date:  07/27/99 9:31:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time
 From:  Moai king
 To:    Rcbrooksod

 I had no idea!!!!   When did this come about?

 a happy tiki day to you

 jeff >>


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 28 Jul 1999 08:45:11 EDT


In a message dated 7/27/99 9:31:55 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< The "very stylish girl" tune is the best thing on the disc and it takes
6-7
 loops and beats them into the ground.  There's one song towards the end of
 the CD that I swear is the demo setting on a forty-nine dollar Casio
keyboard
 that I owned in the late 1980's.  As I said it's probably great if you've
 been dancing 8 straight hours while huffing ether, mainlining crystal meth,
 chewing on a handful of morphine suppositories and engaging in Olympic class
 frotterisim.  Otherwise, to me it's a real low priority listen, and maybe
 worth five bucks used. >>

Hey Roy ,
If your overall cliche ridden, disparaging description of dance and
electronic music is as ludicrous as the rest of your tatse in music then it's
not worth 2 cents used.

Ashley


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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 28 Jul 1999 09:11:01 -0400


<<If your overall cliche ridden, disparaging description of dance and=20
electronic music is as ludicrous as the rest of your tatse in music then =
it's=20
not worth 2 cents used.

Ashley >>

Play nice kiddies!

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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 28 Jul 1999 14:14:44 +0100



casio demo music is the true exotica, surely, i can spend hours listening to
it whilst out of my mind on ex-lax and preparation H.

AR



In a message dated 7/27/99 9:31:55 PM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< The "very stylish girl" tune is the best thing on the disc and it takes
6-7
 loops and beats them into the ground.  There's one song towards the end of
 the CD that I swear is the demo setting on a forty-nine dollar Casio
keyboard
 that I owned in the late 1980's.  As I said it's probably great if you've
 been dancing 8 straight hours while huffing ether, mainlining crystal meth,

 chewing on a handful of morphine suppositories and engaging in Olympic
class
 frotterisim.  Otherwise, to me it's a real low priority listen, and maybe
 worth five bucks used. >>

Hey Roy ,
If your overall cliche ridden, disparaging description of dance and
electronic music is as ludicrous as the rest of your tatse in music then
it's
not worth 2 cents used.

Ashley


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Subject: (exotica) [obit] Rudolph Barbano
Date: 28 Jul 1999 06:34:09 -0800



I don't yet have access to the newswires, but here's an obit
from a local paper, NY Newsday.
-Lou

             OBITUARY / Rudolph L. Barbano, 72, Accordionist,
Restaurateur
             Rudolph L. Barbano, a popular musician, music teacher
and restaurateur who played the accordion at Bobby Kennedy's
wedding, died in his sleep at his Sea Cliff home early Monday
morning. He was 72.
             Barbano was considered a child prodigy when he first
began entertaining with the accordion at age 4 for the Rotary,
Kiwanis, Lions Club and American Legion in upstate Elmira, where
he was born in 1927, said his son, Randolf Barbano of Huntington.
             By age 16, he was a celebrated talent playing in
the IBM Band. Then, in 1945, the 18-year-old toured with the
USO, playing in shows and hospitals for World War II veterans
throughout the United States. That's when he met a singer, the
former Mary Anne Plourde of Lynn, Mass., who would later become
his wife. They were married for 45 years until her death in 1993.
             Barbano moved to New York to play with the big bands
of that time: Ray Block, Meyer Davis, Emil Coleman, Lester Lanin
and many more. He was regularly invited to entertain at the Waldorf-Astoria,
Plaza and Pierre hotels in Manhattan, quickly earning the designation
as one of the best accordionists in New York City. One of his
favorite gigs was the wedding reception of Robert and Ethel Kennedy
on June 17, 1950.
             With socialites and other entertainers in gowns
and tuxedos flocking to see him, he decided in 1955 to open the
Sans Souci restaurant / nightclub overlooking Long Island Sound
in Sea Cliff. His partner was his brother-in-law, the late Arthur
Repetti, a keyboard musician who married Barbano's sister, Albina.
Their clientele included such notables as Gov. Averell Harriman,
Perry Como, Andy Williams and Peggy Lee. Business flourished
for 25 years before the partners finally retired.
             "Music was my father's life," said his son. "He
could hear a song and play it without reading it.That's playing
by ear, and not all musicians have that gift. Our house was always
filled with music."
             Barbano, who had held his private pilot's license
since 1959, used to fly his wife and kids to Atlantic City and
the Hamptons for the weekend. "We all thought it was all so thrilling
to pick up and go like that," said his daughter, Sharon Barbano
of Marblehead, Mass.
             His retired status gave Barbano a chance to appear
on the silver screen. He was chosen to play the background music
in the wedding scene of "Prizzi's Honor" in 1985.
             He earned a real estate appraiser's license in 1989,
and began a new career.
             Barbano was a founding member of the Sea Cliff /
Glen Head Lions Club. He was named 1990 Lion of the Year and
a bench bearing his name sits on Sea Cliff's Rum Point, a stone's
throw from the Sans Souci, now a catering establishment.

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Libraries
Date: 28 Jul 1999 07:42:47 -0700 (PDT)


For those who are just starting to get into this whole exotica scene, I
must recommend hitting libraries.  A lot of times they'll have old
vinyl or "easy listening" CDs that at least hit near the type of stuff
this list promotes.

For example, I dug up the following at our local library:  Spanky and
Our Gang's GH, Henry Mancini Box Set, Umbrellas of Cherbourg soundtrack
(all in French, very odd), Babalu Music (produced by Weird Al Yankovic
of all people), some Quincy Jones, Ennio Morricone Film Music vol 1,
Fifth Dimension Definitive Collection, plus the Good Music release of
Enoch Light's Persuasive and Provocative Percussion.  Also, Rip Rig and
Panic by Rhasaan Roland Kirk and some Art Ensemble of Chicago, Foo
Fighters, Donald Fagen, Los Lobos and Stevie Wonder, but that's not
really for this list.  :)

Anyway, the point being, there's all sorts of wacked out stuff mixed in
between the Lionel Richie and Barbra Streisand.

BTW, I have to say, I'm not that impressed by Spanky.
But, at least I got to sample it, for free!

Anyway,
My two cents.

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Happy National Tiki Day ! ! ! !
Date: 28 Jul 1999 08:52:22 EDT


Ok, here are some of the responses I have gotten regarding the "National Tiki
Day"


thanks for the good wishes-who are you,  STOO



OK. What is a Tiki?



Hi back at all of you !
It is a great day down here in Crystal River Florida!
I am getting ready for the Live TV show I do 3 times a week at 10 am
tomorrows show is going to be about Manatees and I will mention that today was
national tiki day - I also work in a resort with a tiki bar.....
Happy Day to all of you !


I like Tiki stuff and exotica music, but don't recall meeting you.

Aloha, oy vey!


hey tiki bob have we met im priscilla. where you at?  lets talk! tell me
about you and how you got my address.  later tiki p.

(I am going to keep this one for future reference!!!  TB)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Happy National Tiki Day ! ! ! !
Date: 28 Jul 1999 15:58:00 +0100


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Ok, here are some of the responses I have gotten regarding the "National Tiki
> Day"

For UK listers' information, a UK site that sells Tiki mugs and all manner
of strange stuff:

http://www.underbelly.demon.co.uk/

PS - why can't it be an International Tiki Day?


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Subject: (exotica) "Ay, man.  Lead and I'll follow.  Where's library?"
Date: 28 Jul 1999 11:14:24 -0400


Yes indeed, libraries are your best entertainment!  I have found many
wonderful things hanging out in the racks, until they sold all of their LPs
out from under me!  No bother.  They do still sell used LPs when someone
donates and that is how I found my Up With People LP (with a young Glenn
Close!)  Also found a Ruth Brown 78 but as Peter Risser said that not
really part of this group.

Trivia question, prize is a firm handshake:  Where did I get the subject
line quote from?

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Desi
Date: 28 Jul 1999 09:16:26 -0700 (PDT)


Did Desi Arnaz cut any albums?  The version of El Cumbanchero on this
CD kicks ass, but the quality is disasterous.

Any suggestions?

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From: Fish Wich <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New Mambo No. 5
Date: 28 Jul 1999 09:23:31 -0700 (PDT)


(from Billboard Magazine)

RCA Gets Bega Hit For U.S. Release

Lou BegaÆs international hit "Mambo No. 5" has been
picked up for the U.S. by RCA and rush-released to
radio. The vocal reworking of Perez PradoÆs swing-era
instrumental has been No. 1 in Germany, Sweden,
Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, and Spain. It is
already receiving airplay at top-40 powerhouses WKTU
New York and KIIS Los Angeles. BegaÆs album is due for
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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) and Car Accidents!
Date: 28 Jul 1999 13:28:39 -0400


I was in a car accident one year ago today. Basically a three car fender
bender and nobody was hurt. I had the most damage and my airbag did not even
go off.

The CD I was listening too? Esquivel! Music From A Sparkling Planet! My
first Esquivel disk only purchased 4 days before.  I think at the time track
5 was on: You Belong To My heart.

It was a very unusual experience smacking into the back of a 1/2 ton truck
with him as the soundtrack. Ever been in a car accident? Thinking back, or
even when it's happening,  the situation seems to go in slow motion and is
almost surreal.

On my way home today from work I'll be passing over the very same spot on
the highway. With the same vehicle (Mazda truck) and I'll be listening to
the same Esquivel disk. Brought it with me on purpose.  It's just *my*
nature to do weird stuff!

Hope I get home. And of course I don't blame Esquivel for the accident.

Just be careful out there friends! Just last night their was a terrible
accident only a 2 minute walk away from my house and it seems the woman
driving lost her life. Driving is serious business.


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Subject: SV: (exotica) and Car Accidents!
Date: 28 Jul 1999 18:26:49 +0200


Great story Domenic!

You belong to my heart, wow. Thats something! Wonderful song. (I am glad =
you made it last year)

Magnus
feeling allright again
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Libraries
Date: 28 Jul 1999 12:19:17 EDT



In a message dated 7/28/99 10:44:46 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>BTW, I have to say, I'm not that impressed by Spanky.
>But, at least I got to sample it, for free!

Being Mr. Soft Rock these days I'll say yes and no to Knucklehead's comments
about Spanky & Our Gang. Overall they have the true soft rock/pop sound and
typify the initial soft rock era's light and airy feel-good semi-easy
listening harmony-laden softly sung sound. Their hits are perhaps their most
typical" "Give A Damn", "Makin' Every Minute Count (Makin' It Groovy)",
"Sunday Will Never Be The Same", "Lazy Day", "Like To Get To Know You", but
to dig into their LP's which can be found easily is to find some soft and
easy gems that equal and surpass their hits. For example, I would expect
every exotician on this list to go for "Without Rhyme Or Reason" on their
yellow album where the vinyl is pulled from the top of the
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 28 Jul 1999 12:42:53 EDT


In a message dated 7/28/99 8:45:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LTepedino writes:

> Hey Roy ,
>  If your overall cliche ridden, disparaging description of dance and
> electronic music is as ludicrous as the rest of your tatse in music then
it's
> not worth 2 cents used.
>
>  Ashley

Admittedly ludicrous, as well as disparaging, but you don't need to go
getting nasty about it.  It's just my silly opinion, it was meant more to
amuse then to be a serious critical analysis of anything.  I was just using
hyperbole to add a bit of zest and color to what I had to say.

My words regarding the music of Dimitri were not intended as a personal
criticism of you. I just don't much like the musical compositions in
question.  There are many Electronica artists that I do like: Tipsy, DJ
Shadow, DJ Cam, ColdCut, Stereolab, Chemical Brothers, Tortious, to name a
few.

So tell me Ashley, what is the "correct" opinion to have of the music of
Dimitri?

What is the proper tone that I should use when mentioning Dimitri?

Is it OK for me to like the artist that I mentioned above?

Where should I buy my shoes?

-Roy

PS I'm sorry if my descriptions were cliche ridden.  I'd like to think
"Olympic class frotterism" was an original.


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Subject: Re: (exotica) "Ay, man.  Lead and I'll follow.  Where's library?"
Date: 28 Jul 1999 11:56:08 -0500


Brian Phillips wrote:
>
> Yes indeed, libraries are your best entertainment!  I have found many
> wonderful things hanging out in the racks, until they sold all of their LPs
> out from under me!  No bother.  They do still sell used LPs when someone
> donates and that is how I found my Up With People LP (with a young Glenn
> Close!)  Also found a Ruth Brown 78 but as Peter Risser said that not
> really part of this group.

As it happens, I work in a library, and only
last year, we got rid of our vinyl.  The vinyl
sat on some shelves in one of the work areas
for about a year, pending a decision on what
to do with them.

At about the end of last year, I got word
that the librarian responsible for this
decision had told two musician co-workers
that they could take their pick of the lp's
on the shelves.  I was so pissed -- they didn't
even ask anyone else if they "still" collected
vinyl.  I knew that there were some exotica
gems lurking in there, and I was afraid they'd
be gone by the time I got to look through
the stack.

Fortunately, the indie fanboy co-workers did not
have very adventurous tastes, and I got a bunch
of things, among them a copy of Martin Denny's
_Hypnotique_ in excellent condition.  Before I'd
found it, I overheard them saying that there was
"nothing good" left in the stacks after they got
done with them. Ha!

Another cool thing about this library is
that we've started to collect pulp magazines
and reissues of fifties cheesecake and such --
so we're seeing a lot of that these days.


--

Kerry


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Desi/Pied Pipers
Date: 28 Jul 1999 12:53:33 EDT


Speaking of Mr. Arnaz, he did a song called "Forever Darling" which was
featured in the movie of the same name. There's a Lucy episode in which he's
"recording" it in the studio with the Pied Pipers. Unfortunately, I've never
been able to find a recording of this song -- or sheet music!! (I'd love to
add it to my "pointless hours of playing the piano" repetoire.) Any
suggestions?

Tally-ho,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Desi
Date: 28 Jul 1999 12:46:59 -0400


According to the All-Music Guide (a nice place to start research, but I
wouldn't want to live there), he stopped actively recording in 1949 (save
the occasional sessions), so it is not too likely, unless RCA cobbled
together an album from his 78's.

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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Ay, man. Lead and I'll follow. Where's library?"
Date: 28 Jul 1999 09:59:55 PDT


i also work in a library,(creepy, three already on the list) we don't keep
music but there are a few hundred albums sitting there in storage. they're
going nowhere without me. in fact the pile seems to be slowly diminishing. i
did offer to buy... mainly old library music. the rest is real shit.
good news is i'm getting several thousand music manuscripts soon...
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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update
Date: 27 Jul 1999 19:16:08 +0200


A new update to the eXotica Releases Overview is available.
These are the most important recent additions, that where not yet announced
here.

(If you would like to receive the unabridged updates on a regular base by
e-mail, just let me know you want to get on my "XRO updater")



           - July 26: new (1999) releases, announcements & corrections -


* Cassius Clay: "I Am The Greatest"
      CD, Columbia/Legacy, USA, August 1999

* Serge Gainsbourg: "Gainsbourg Percussions"
      CD, Philips, France?, 1999

* Ted Heath: "Big Band Percussion/ Big Band Bash"
      CD, Collector's Choice Music CCM 0085, USA, 1999

* Bert Kaempfert: "Safari Wings Again"
      CD, Polydor? 537 472, Germany, 1999

* Carnaby Street Pop Orchestra & Choir: "The London Theme"
      CD, Recur ECD 702, UK, 1999

* Sergio Mendes: "Swinger From Rio/ Best Of Brazil"
      CD, Collectables 6267, USA, 1999

* Jerry Murad & Harmonicats: "Greatest/ Chery Pink & Apple Blossom White"
      CD, Collectables 6027, USA, 1999

* Santo & Johnny: "Encore/ Hawaii"  (...plus 9 Bonus Tracks)
      CD, ? SCA 1004, Canada, 1999

* Santo & Johnny: "Santo & Johnny/ Around The World"
   (...plus Bonus Tracks)
      CD, ? SCA 1002, Canada, 1999

* Various Artists: "Purrr! Kittens, Vixens & Bombshells"
      CD, Hip-O, USA, August 1999

* Various Artists: "Spaghetti Vol. 2 - Revenge!"
      CD/LP, One Million Dollar OMD 042, Germany, 1999

* Various Artists: "Swinging Mademoiselle"
      LP, Samba Monet SMLP 001, France, 1999

* Various Artists: "The Atomic Cafe - French Cuts"
   (Pop Music Francaise Des Annees 60)
      CD, ? LSD 007, ?, 1999





           - July 26: other interesting finds I stumbled on -


* Xavier Cugat: "16 Most Requested Songs"
      CD, Columbia, USA, 199?

* Xavier Cugat: "Mambo! Volume 1: 1950-1952"
      CD, Blue Moon, USA?, 199?

* Xavier Cugat: "Mambo! Volume 2: 1950-1952"
      CD, Blue Moon, USA?, 199?

* Bette Davis: "Glamour"  (Bette Davis Sings)
      CD, Odeon, UK?, 199?

* Marc Durst: "Serial Thriller"
      CD, Kosinus KOS 32, France, 199?

* Eric Gemsa And Co: "Kit Cartoon"
      CD, Kosinus KOS 25, France, 199?

* Ted Heath: "Fever"
      CD, London, USA, 1999

* Neal Hefti : "Batman "
      CD, RCA, USA, 199?

* Laurent Lombard: "Hi-Fi Stereo Remixes"
      CD, Kosinus KOS 48, France, 199?

* La Lupe: "Best Of"
      CD, Tico, USA?, 199?

* Perez Prado: "Jazz"
      CD, Orfeon, USA, 199?

* Various Artists: "Blaxploitation. The Sequel"
      Double CD, Global, Distr. BMG, UK, 1997?

* Various Artists: "Drums Of Vodou"
      CD, White Cliff, USA, 199?

* Various Artists: "Exotic Excursion"
      CD, Pickwick, USA, 199?

* Various Artists: "Exotic Sounds From Many Worlds"
      CD, Milan, USA, 199?

* Various Artists: "Stay Awake"
   (Various Interpretations Of Music From Vintage Walt Disney Films)
      CD, A&M 3918, USA, 198?



        >>> Additions & corrections are more than welcome!
        >>> The XRO is a discography, NOT a sale catalog!

        For the online version of the eXotica Releases Overview,

        Dada'quariums Exotica: http://bewoner.dma.be/Dada/

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From: "Mayhue, Wade" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE:  Desi (Desi Arnaz: The Mambo King)
Date: 28 Jul 1999 10:09:07 -0700


Peter wrote:

<<Did Desi Arnaz cut any albums? The version of El Cumbanchero on this CD
kicks ass, but the quality is disasterous.>>

I've not personally found any of his LPs floating around the thrift stores,
but I do have a CD called "Desi Arnaz:  The Mambo King" that I bought at
Tower Records about a year ago.  The quality is not bad at all and it has
about 13 - 15 tracks.

Hope this helps.

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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Libraries
Date: 28 Jul 1999 13:04:05 -0400




>
>For those who are just starting to get into this whole exotica scene, I
>must recommend hitting libraries.  A lot of times they'll have old
>vinyl or "easy listening" CDs that at least hit near the type of stuff
>this list promotes.

I also recommend talking to the librarians about the music. The librarians
at the library where I live ask me to pick out the jazz CD's because they to
not know anything about jazz and are reticent about what to order. I was
there last week and was asked to make out a list of about 12 CD's. I'll have
to pick out a few exotica ones too! Most librarians may only order what they
know or like. For instance, my library has a disproportionate amount of
showtunes....

The library in your area may need some help selecting eclectic music. they
only know books! ;')

It goes full circle. I started checking out LP's at the library when I was a
kid, looking for new sounds. I remember borrowing and being blown away by
Philip Glass's Glassworks, and that made me realize that their is a whole
world of music out their waiting to be discovered!

Keep listening Exoticats!


Domemic
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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) FEELTHYradio is back
Date: 29 Jul 1999 09:28:38 -0700


Well, I got the server back up and running, but I STILL don't have a
(working) link from my webpage.

Go to shoutcast.com and click listen then go the the "talk" genre. look for
FeelthyMonkey in there.  There's lotsa other stuff to hear too!

Today I am presenting an archived "House of Games" featuring Jack Diamond.
Say of him what you will, but the guy has got some badass rekkits and knows
how to use 'em.

Rock on with your bad selves....

Ron



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Desi
Date: 28 Jul 1999 13:51:07 -0400




Did Desi Arnaz cut any albums?  The version of El Cumbanchero on this
      CD kicks ass, but the quality is disasterous.

Any suggestions?

Peter

_____________________________________________________________
>>>I am very happy to see Mr. Arnaz mentioned here!  His stuff is very
under-rated to me...
In my household...there are these two things...RCA comp called
BABALU...(there are also a few other very similar RCA/Desi comps)...it has
some fantastic mambo! and other latin-jazz...and it does sound like older
recordings, yes, but not distracting!
Also, I can't remember the label, but I have a record called "I LOVE LUCY"
that has music from the show..it's kinda goofy, though, as Desi does these
sorta lame-o spoken bits between tracks!
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Desi
Date: 28 Jul 1999 10:59:23 -0700



I have about 4 or 5 Desi cd's..they are very easily found.


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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Beat at Cinecitta 3!
Date: 28 Jul 1999 10:59:58 -0700 (PDT)


Please tell me this Crippled Dick(I love typing that
at WORK) release is as good as BEAT AT CINECITTA 1&2!
Please? Jane Fondle

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Tiki Day...
Date: 28 Jul 1999 14:01:54 EDT


In a message dated 07/28/99 10:55:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Did you make this up???

 I think I missed a post....

 - Nate >>


Yes I did.  For those confused . . . .

I got a massive email from this company in Chicago called Jazz Baby.  Under
the "To:" section there were like 100+ names.  So it was a blatantly
obviously mass mailing.

So I copied all those names and sent them an email that said "Happy National
Tiki Day".

I copied the email/advertisement with the massive list name and posted it to
the Exotica List with the comment about feeling "real special" that I was
part of this "mass emailing".

Well, now all the folks I emailed about "National Tiki Day" are emailing me
back.  One girl in Florida who has a TV program even said she was going to
mention it on here show today (which was going to be on manatees btw)!  Of
course she mentioned that she ALSO worked AT a tiki bar so I figure her
"show" can't reach too many so let her mention it.  Anything to promote Tiki.

Has this helped clear things up?  See, I try to stir things up by being
funny.

Like you didn't know that already.

Tiki Bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Happy National Tiki Day ! ! ! !
Date: 28 Jul 1999 14:05:52 EDT


In a message dated 07/28/99 10:59:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< PS - why can't it be an International Tiki Day? >>

It can ! ! !   But for now just think of the "National" part referring to
your "Nation".

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 28 Jul 1999 14:18:36 EDT


In a message dated 07/28/99 12:46:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< So tell me Ashley, what is the "correct" opinion to have of the music of
 Dimitri?

 What is the proper tone that I should use when mentioning Dimitri?

 Is it OK for me to like the artist that I mentioned above?

 Where should I buy my shoes? >>

1.  Not sure.

2.  Not sure.

3.  Not sure.

4.  For sure -- Ferragamos.

Tiki Bob (in a nice pair of loafers)


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 28 Jul 1999 14:32:35 EDT


In a message dated 7/28/99 2:18:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Rcbrooksod
writes:

> << So tell me Ashley, what is the "correct" opinion to have of the music of
>   Dimitri?
>
>   What is the proper tone that I should use when mentioning Dimitri?
>
>   Is it OK for me to like the artist that I mentioned above?
>
>   Where should I buy my shoes? >>
>
>  1.  Not sure.
>
>  2.  Not sure.
>
>  3.  Not sure.
>
>  4.  For sure -- Ferragamos.
>
>  Tiki Bob (in a nice pair of loafers)


Thanks T. Bob.  That's one less thing for me to worry about.  I can feel the
weight of the world (which happens to be on my shoulders) easing up a bit.

Oh, by the wayside.  Are those loafers with little tassels?

-Roy


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From: MR Tiki <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Happy National Tiki Day ! ! ! !
Date: 28 Jul 1999 14:46:23 -0400




m h jemmeson wrote:

>
> PS - why can't it be an International Tiki Day?
>

SOOOON............   VERY SOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!!



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From: "Kevin C." <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update
Date: 28 Jul 1999 12:32:01 -0700


Johan Dada Vis wrote:
> * Various Artists: "Exotic Excursion"
>       CD, Pickwick, USA, 199?
Year is 1996.

This is actually a version of Robert Drasnin's Voodoo album (available from
Dionysis records).

  Minus: two tracks cut, scant liner notes
  Plus: remastered 20 bit sound. No LP based pops and hisses. Sounds much
better.

Kevin Crossman


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Subject: Re: (exotica) "Ay, man. Lead and I'll follow. Where's library?"
Date: 28 Jul 1999 12:35:45 -0700


Robert McKenna wrote:
>
> i also work in a library,(creepy, three already on the list)

Four! I am a librarian by trade (MLS), but have just recently left the library
to pursue web development at my company.

Kevin Crossman


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Beat at Cinecitta 3!
Date: 28 Jul 1999 20:41:47 +0100 (BST)


At 10:59 28/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Please tell me this Crippled Dick(I love typing that
>at WORK) release is as good as BEAT AT CINECITTA 1&2!
>Please?

It isn't out yet. It was supposed to be out in  Spring,but it was delayed
due to licensing problems with Italy. But it is coming in Autumn. There
aren't any copies floating around yet,despite many advanced ads and
promotion. Soon. I'm sure it'll be very good.

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) RE: DJ Dmitri from Paris
Date: 28 Jul 1999 12:51:55 -0700 (PDT)


While some people on this list rant and rave about how fantastic
Dimitri is, even slinging about the appellation "genius", I would have
to say, I find Dimitri quite dull.  I've heard people on this list
who've put together tunes ten times as good in their spare time, so I'm
not quite sure how he got a record deal.

He tends to pick a single sample and run with it throughout an entire
song, layering some vocal or other instrumental samples on time, but in
what I find to be a tired and hackneyed fashion.

However, it has been pointed out to me that I don't particular like
much techno music (usually for that exact reason), and this definitely
falls into a techno category, as far as song structure is concerned.  I
found this to also be the case with Tipsy and Sukia.

In any case, I haven't seen the other responses, but in the past
they've tended to be glowing and I wanted to throw out an alternate
opinion.

I will say, as a side note, his production of Nothing to Lose, was
quite enjoyable, so when he puts his mind to it, he can do nice things.

So, if you like the danceteria stuff, like Tipsy and Sukia, you'll
probably enjoy Dimitri.  If not, you probably won't.

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From: jonathan <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Libraries
Date: 28 Jul 1999 11:21:37 -0700


On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:42:47 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:

>For those who are just starting to get into this whole exotica scene, I
>must recommend hitting libraries.  A lot of times they'll have old
>vinyl or "easy listening" CDs that at least hit near the type of stuff
>this list promotes.

>For example, I dug up the following at our local library:  Spanky and
>Our Gang's GH, Henry Mancini Box Set, Umbrellas of Cherbourg soundtrack
>(all in French, very odd), Babalu Music (produced by Weird Al Yankovic
>of all people), some Quincy Jones, Ennio Morricone Film Music vol 1,
>Fifth Dimension Definitive Collection, plus the Good Music release of
>Enoch Light's Persuasive and Provocative Percussion.  Also, Rip Rig and
>Panic by Rhasaan Roland Kirk and some Art Ensemble of Chicago, Foo
>Fighters, Donald Fagen, Los Lobos and Stevie Wonder, but that's not
>really for this list.  :)

>Anyway, the point being, there's all sorts of wacked out stuff mixed in
>between the Lionel Richie and Barbra Streisand.


I agree with this. In the library here in Portland Or they have the most
amazing collection of musique concrete and old electronic tape music on
immaculate vinyl. Unfortunately these are archived items and you can only
check out 3 at a time and there is a 5 day limit, but who cares I furthured
my knowledge of the stuff and whetted my appetite for finding some for my
self. Yes!! Its worth checking out (forgive my pun)

BTW tonight is my final night for the Sound Lounge for I am moving to
Bloomington Indiana to further my academic career. If there is anyone from
there or familiar with what to do with that part of the country, please
drop me a line because I am clueless. I may or may not continue the Sound
Lounge at a radio station there depending upon the "scene" so drop me a
note.... ALso I am doing a farewell show at the Hypnotica Night Friday July
30 at the Jasmine Tree Tiki Bar which is located in downtown Portland at
401 SW Harrison. Be there!!! Especially you Byron!!

Tonight Wednesday July 28 in the Sound Lounge:

 MoOgzIque COnCretE

The Sound LouNge
Wednesdays 9-10pm
KPSU 1450 am
Portland Orygun

thanks for listening......................

-jonathan




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From: didier Cremieux <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 28 Jul 1999 14:50:40 -0400


The very few loops from the "very stylish girl" tune are taken from an
excellent soundtrack album called "the girl from U.N.C.L.E".....with not
much added to them.

didier cremieux


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Subject: (exotica) Brad??
Date: 28 Jul 1999 15:53:17 -0400






Looks like the Exotica Standards site is dead...1
(http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm)

-Kevin Crossman


Is that true?  Brad's still here, aren't ya?  Please?
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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Brad??
Date: 28 Jul 1999 17:18:31 -0400


>Looks like the Exotica Standards site is dead...1
>(http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm)
>
>-Kevin Crossman
>
>
>Is that true?  Brad's still here, aren't ya?  Please?
>Jane Fondle
>

I never knew about this site. Is it any different than The Space Age pop
page?

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/
>

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Subject: (exotica) Spanky&OG
Date: 28 Jul 1999 16:28:04 -0400 (EDT)


I adore Spanky& our gang.  I love the intricate string arrangements and vocal harmonies.

But I've never met anyone else who feels quite the same; I guess this group were just made for me...

regds, Jonny

PS Andrew - go easy with that preparation H!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Libraries
Date: 28 Jul 1999 17:55:11 -0400



>BTW tonight is my final night for the Sound Lounge for I am moving to
>Bloomington Indiana to further my academic career. If there is anyone from
>there or familiar with what to do with that part of the country, please
>drop me a line because I am clueless. I may or may not continue the Sound
>Lounge at a radio station there depending upon the "scene" so drop me a
>note.

Jonathan,

Does the college you are going too have a radio station? If they do EMAIL
them and tell em your comin'
Hee Haw! You will be a shoo in. And if they already have a lounge program?
big deal! We need more of them.

Domenic
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Libraries
Date: 28 Jul 1999 17:25:39 -0400


If anyone happens to be near Glendale, CA, do not walk, rather RUN to the
Brand Library.  Not only is it located on some of the finer park land in
that area, but it is an arts library with a marvelous vinyl
collection.  Many, many wonderful things to be had there, also all of the
books are on the arts (that means music, too. of course).  I had the
fortune of being able to say, "I've heard of _____ , now I will listen to
the album to see if I like them".

By the way, the reference I made earlier "Ay, man. Lead and I'll
follow.  Where's library?", comes from "All Our Yesterdays", a Star Trek
episode (It's a favorite line of mine in that episode).  I guess that firm
handshake will have to wait.

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From: Ross Orr <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Space Age Pop Standards site
Date: 28 Jul 1999 17:15:04 -0400


>Looks like the Exotica Standards site is dead...1
>(http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm)
>
>- -Kevin Crossman

Hardly! For over two years it has been at this new address:

http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop


 --Ross

|| Ross "Mambo Frenzy" Orr  <[e-mail]>
|| Ann Arbor, Michigan USA




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Subject: Re:  Re: (exotica) Re: Libraries
Date: 28 Jul 1999 17:27:29 EDT



In a message dated 7/28/99 4:52:24 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Does the college you are going too have a radio station? If they do EMAIL
>
>them and tell em your comin'
>
>Hee Haw! You will be a shoo in.

Not here in Boston. Air slots are tighter than..............


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From: Michael Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Byrds and the C.H.I.M.P.S(C.H.U.M.P)
Date: 28 Jul 1999 17:15:22 -0500


"Sandberg Magnus" <[e-mail]> wrote:

>>Now...to LANCELOT LINK, SECRET CHIMP!  I am so mad
>>about that show, what little I've seen(I have the View
>>Master reels to keep me company, no cable!)..and I
>>need to know if a soundtrack was ever put out to
>>it???!?  Great action-now-sound-crime-jazz backings!

>there is a soundtrack
>
>"Lancelot Link and the evolution revolution" or something like that

Yup. It exists -- I have it. On ABC Records in a groovy gatefold cover.
Not incidental music, but a collection of the vocal musical numbers the
Evolution Revolution would perform on the show.

I hear the show's on TV Land or Nickelodeon currently. I really need to
make a point to catch it/start taping it.

"C'mon baby, let your hands hang low...do the Evolution Revolution!!"

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Re: Car Accidents!
Date: 28 Jul 1999 20:44:54 -0400


> I was in a car accident one year ago today. Basically a three car fender
> bender and nobody was hurt. I had the most damage and my airbag did not even
> go off.
>
> The CD I was listening too? Esquivel! Music From A Sparkling Planet! My
> first Esquivel disk only purchased 4 days before.  I think at the time track
> 5 was on: You Belong To My heart.

I totaled my car about three years ago.  The CD I was listening to at the time
was the Ultra-Lounge 'Space Capades' ... the individual track was also the fifth
track: Dickie Harrell doing "Drivin' Around the Block'  Wrecking a car to this
song is much cooler than wrecking your car to some tune coming over the radio.

Although my car was totaled, I walked away without a scratch.  I credit the
Ultra-Lounge series with saving my life.  Who knows, if I had been listening to
the Eagles, I might be dead now.

You can credit Esquivel for saving your life also.  Come to think of it, as far
as I know, there are no documented cases of any fatalities to drivers who were
listening to exotica  music at the time.

Vern



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Car Accidents!
Date: 28 Jul 1999 23:00:19 EDT


In a message dated 7/28/99 8:45:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [e-mail]
writes:

<< Although my car was totaled, I walked away without a scratch.  I credit the
 Ultra-Lounge series with saving my life.  Who knows, if I had been listening
to
 the Eagles, I might be dead now. >>

And everybody criticizes the Ultra Lounge stuff!!!!!

Just curious,  why do you think the UL saved your life???

Tiki Bob


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Car Accidents!
Date: 28 Jul 1999 23:55:31 -0400


> Just curious,  why do you think the UL saved your life???

It's just a personal decision.  I could just have well have determined that
listening to 'Ultra-Lounge'  distracted me me from my 100% alert driving state,
but I hate to think that music is the cause of any disharmony in my world.  It was
much easier (and better) to credit the music for saving my life.

Besides, the blame (and the ticket and higher insurance rates) went to the driver
of the van who swerved into my lane.

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Subject: (exotica) "You dick!" - J. Spiccolli
Date: 28 Jul 1999 20:21:53 -0400


----------
> From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
> To: bomp list <[e-mail]>; exotica list
<[e-mail]>; Brian Taylor <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Beat at Cinecitta 3!
> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 1:59 PM
>
>
> Please tell me this Crippled Dick(I love typing that
> at WORK)

Jane, dahlink,

I'll bet you're just dying to catch that new movie. I can hear the
conversation around your watercooler now: "Hey, did you hear that
Jane was first on line to see "Dick?" What's gotten into her, anyway.
I mean, she always been kinda weird, ya know?"

:-)


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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Ay, man. Lead and I'll follow. Where's library?"
Date: 29 Jul 1999 02:39:13 -0400


At 09:59 AM 7/28/99 PDT, Robert McKenna wrote:
>
>i also work in a library,(creepy, three already on the list)

Yeah what a coincidence.  Working in libraries, collecting records.  Next
thing you'll tell me, you're constantly reorganizing your records.
(I guess that's just me.)
I would find it a lot creepier if it turned out we had three nurses which
is why I don't join the Garth Brooks list.

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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Arling & Cameron in San Francisco
Date: 29 Jul 1999 04:31:52 EDT


see ya there

sunday, August 8
Justice League

Otto


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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Puka Shells
Date: 29 Jul 1999 04:31:56 EDT


for cheap and sealed anything is good

there are a few very bad songs on it where Arthur allows his wife to sing but
there is one really good Exotica track from what I can remember


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From: m h jemmeson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Ay, man. Lead and I'll follow. Where's library?"
Date: 29 Jul 1999 11:08:33 +0100


> >i also work in a library,(creepy, three already on the list)

add another: i used to work in a library too...

> Yeah what a coincidence.  Working in libraries, collecting records.  Next
> thing you'll tell me, you're constantly reorganizing your records.
> (I guess that's just me.)

Mine are totally unsorted. Well unless you count being sorted by how
recently they've been played. Each time I try and sort them they just get
worse...

> I would find it a lot creepier if it turned out we had three nurses which
> is why I don't join the Garth Brooks list.

...is that the only reason?


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From: Hans Adell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Caramba, Re: (exotica) Incredibly Strange Message
Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:28:08 +0200


At 04:32 PM 7/27/99 -0400, you wrote:

>Alright...who put you up to this, Hans...Moritz, Magy?
>Jane Fondle...

Yes they did. It was not my fault. Actually they forced me. Here's a
message I got from them (and my answers):
(Moritz, Magy and Jane Fondle) -Hey Hans! On the 27:th of July you shall
write a strange message with "Incredibly Strange Message" in the subject!
 (Me) -But that sounds really ridiculous to me.
(Moritz, Magy and Jane Fondle) -Shut up bloody newcomer and listen to this:
We just can't have a list discussing incredibly strange music, with noone
writing an incredibly strange message, that to us would be a very strange
list, so someone has got to do it, and it happens to be you!

...no to be quite honest with you, I was listening to a Caramba LP, and
then tried writing a letter with their strange language. There is really
strange music in Swedish Caramba's (incl. ABBA engineer Michael B. Tretow)
secret classic: "Hubba Hubba Zoot-Zoot". They did a whole LP with that
strange language. If you haven't heard it, have a look at the great Hubba
Hubba Zoot-Zoot lyrics:

"Hubba hubba zoot-zoot
Nam!
Ebba obba zat-zat
Nam!
Pa huvee, pa huvee, paa
Pahab huvee paa
A nam nam?
A nam!"

And here are the Caramba members:
CARLOS IH LURA, ahllo
ZOLTAN ZULL, violotta
DR FRITZ H=D6FNER, baribasso
TUDOR LUDOR, batterie
ABDULLA PRESLEY, tomba
ZINGO ALLAH, prutto
IHTO AHMIN, pahuvee
GASTON EL TON YON, pianissimo
KING NAM, a nam
CLAPTON COMBO, gitaronimo
KING KONG, tango
HAZZE KAMIKAZE, teknico del son
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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Wordless vocal(ists)
Date: 29 Jul 1999 07:06:43


I'm assembling a page reviewing some of the more noteworthy recordings with
wordless vocals and the vocalists responsible for them--like Marni Nixon,
Patricia Clark, Mary Mayo, Loulie Jean Norman.  If you know of any names I
should be sure to mention, please email me or post to the list.

Thanks.

Brad

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From: "Phil Clark" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dmitri from Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:55:00 +0100


Saw the following:

>[e-mail]
>Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris

>In a message dated 7/27/99 4:28:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>[e-mail] writes:

>I'm sure Mr. Dimitri is a great guy and all but,  I got sick of the album
>"Sacre Blue"  after listening to it once.

snip

>The "very stylish girl" tune is the best thing on the disc and it takes 6-7
>loops and beats them into the ground.  There's one song towards the end of
>the CD that I swear is the demo setting on a forty-nine dollar Casio
keyboard
>that I owned in the late 1980's.  As I said it's probably great if you've
>been dancing 8 straight hours while huffing ether, mainlining crystal meth,
>chewing on a handful of morphine suppositories and engaging in Olympic
class
>frotterisim.  Otherwise, to me it's a real low priority listen, and maybe
>worth five bucks used.

I totally agree widja. I gave my copy of "Sacre Bleu" away. The "stylish
girl" thing (sampled from Breakfast at Tiffany's I think) goes on and on and
ON relentlessly.

Also I looove your description of clubland. Don't think Dmitri's quite fast
or banging enough for the crystal boys though.

groovily
phil dilemma



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 08:56:01 EDT


In a message dated 7/28/99 11:46:49 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< Admittedly ludicrous, as well as disparaging, but you don't need to go
 getting nasty about it.  It's just my silly opinion, it was meant more to
 amuse then to be a serious critical analysis of anything.  I was just using
 hyperbole to add a bit of zest and color to what I had to say.

Had the criticism of the Dimitri album been of a proper and intelligent
nature it would have elicted from me a more dignified debated response.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, however your response by resorting to
cliche-ridden descriptions of ravers (a description of the kind of people who
would never be interested in this type of album anyway) was totally
misleading and written with little understanding of the concepts of dance
music and what the album was trying to achieve -- like someone who may
personally not like or understand "lounge" music belittling Martin Denny or
Esquivel as cheesy, novelty music for people who like to dress up in dinner
jackets and fezes and sip martinis while disparaging any album recorded after
1972.

The personal opinion put forth that anyone who likes the Dimitri album must
be a mindless, pill popping freak is like labeling all Polish people stupid,
all Irish people as drunk and all Germans as Nazis, and warrants the "riled"
response I countered with. If you wrote these lines as a joke it certainly
didn't come off that way. All you did was resort to the cheap shot of using
stereotypes instead of intelligent musical criticism to display your views.
There are a lot of people on this list who are new to certain subjects
discussed and unfortuntely this forum allows anyone with an opinion to jump
in and sway opinions and I felt your response did so in a manner which would
be quite misleading for those unaquanited.




I'll answer your snide questions below:


 So tell me Ashley, what is the "correct" opinion to have of the music of
 Dimitri?

There is no "correct" opinion of the album. While the album is not the most
amazing record ever released , does have its flaws, and is somewhat dated in
style (it was originally released over 2 years ago after all). It does
however remain rather a landmark record of the important French
electronic/dance movement as well as being a prime example of excellent use
of samples from the kind of "lounge" or "incredibly starnge' music that this
list is all about. In fact by using these samples this album has gone a long
way in the electronic and dance community to give more relevance to the music
list exotica list talks about rather than relegating it to examples of cheese
which is where most of the rock press after initially flirting with it placed
it.

 What is the proper tone that I should use when mentioning Dimitri?

I use an even-toned vocal inflection.

 Is it OK for me to like the artist that I mentioned above?

You can like whatever you want.


 Where should I buy my shoes?

Personally I don't care where you buy your shoes, but I can suggest where you
wear them.

 Ashley


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Subject: (exotica) Re: "You dick!" - J. Spiccolli
Date: 29 Jul 1999 06:28:24 -0700 (PDT)



> Jane, dahlink,
>
> I'll bet you're just dying to catch that new movie.

It's a rekkid of movie music, actually!

> I can hear the
> conversation around your watercooler now: "Hey, did
> you hear that
> Jane was first on line to see "Dick?" What's gotten
> into her, anyway.
> I mean, she always been kinda weird, ya know?"
>
> :-)
>
They'd say that anyway!
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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Wordless vocal(ists)
Date: 29 Jul 1999 14:31:48 +0100


rimona francis does some very nice wordless vocals, so do the novi =
singers,
and last but not least in there is an entire LP of superb wordless =
vocals
called "Vocal Shades and Tones" released on De Wolfe, any of you who =
have
acces to "UP the Psycho Mellow" will probably agree that the track "Hot
Heels" is a superb example of male and female vocal harmonising this is =
from
this LP ("Vocal Shades and Tones"), the only problem is my copy cost =
=A390
(Ouch).

It is also rumoured that Rimona Francis reputedly supplies the scats =
for The
Paris Studio Group, on all of there LP's the wordless vocals are quite
astonishingly good.

hope that is of some help

AR





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with
wordless vocals and the vocalists responsible for them--like Marni =
Nixon,
Patricia Clark, Mary Mayo, Loulie Jean Norman.  If you know of any =
names I
should be sure to mention, please email me or post to the list.

Thanks.

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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 14:33:06 +0100


I havn't heard sacre bleu, but it does have a very nice cover.



<< Admittedly ludicrous, as well as disparaging, but you don't need to go
 getting nasty about it.  It's just my silly opinion, it was meant more to
 amuse then to be a serious critical analysis of anything.  I was just using

 hyperbole to add a bit of zest and color to what I had to say.

Had the criticism of the Dimitri album been of a proper and intelligent
nature it would have elicted from me a more dignified debated response.

Everyone has a right to their opinion, however your response by resorting to

cliche-ridden descriptions of ravers (a description of the kind of people
who
would never be interested in this type of album anyway) was totally
misleading and written with little understanding of the concepts of dance
music and what the album was trying to achieve -- like someone who may
personally not like or understand "lounge" music belittling Martin Denny or
Esquivel as cheesy, novelty music for people who like to dress up in dinner
jackets and fezes and sip martinis while disparaging any album recorded
after
1972.

The personal opinion put forth that anyone who likes the Dimitri album must
be a mindless, pill popping freak is like labeling all Polish people stupid,

all Irish people as drunk and all Germans as Nazis, and warrants the "riled"

response I countered with. If you wrote these lines as a joke it certainly
didn't come off that way. All you did was resort to the cheap shot of using
stereotypes instead of intelligent musical criticism to display your views.
There are a lot of people on this list who are new to certain subjects
discussed and unfortuntely this forum allows anyone with an opinion to jump
in and sway opinions and I felt your response did so in a manner which would

be quite misleading for those unaquanited.




I'll answer your snide questions below:


 So tell me Ashley, what is the "correct" opinion to have of the music of
 Dimitri?

There is no "correct" opinion of the album. While the album is not the most
amazing record ever released , does have its flaws, and is somewhat dated in

style (it was originally released over 2 years ago after all). It does
however remain rather a landmark record of the important French
electronic/dance movement as well as being a prime example of excellent use
of samples from the kind of "lounge" or "incredibly starnge' music that this

list is all about. In fact by using these samples this album has gone a long

way in the electronic and dance community to give more relevance to the
music
list exotica list talks about rather than relegating it to examples of
cheese
which is where most of the rock press after initially flirting with it
placed
it.

 What is the proper tone that I should use when mentioning Dimitri?

I use an even-toned vocal inflection.

 Is it OK for me to like the artist that I mentioned above?

You can like whatever you want.


 Where should I buy my shoes?

Personally I don't care where you buy your shoes, but I can suggest where
you
wear them.

 Ashley


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 09:42:52 EDT


In a message dated 7/29/99 5:57:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Personally I don't care where you buy your shoes, but I can suggest where
you
 wear them. >>

sounds like Ashley has a bee in his bonnet over this one.  jeez,
man....lighten up...


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Wordless vocal(ists)
Date: 29 Jul 1999 14:46:48 +0100


Andrew Edgar wrote:

> rimona francis does some very nice wordless vocals, so do the
> novi singers

Then there's always the Hi-Los who have done at least one beautiful bit
of wordless vocal (Summer Sketch).

I'm sure their "successors", Singers Unlimited have too.

And the Free Design did plenty of "Ba Ba Ba"-ing on Spaced Out...

Oh and I would imagine *their* successors, the Star-Scape Singers, have
done a bit too!


Robbie

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Subject: Re: Caramba, Re: (exotica) Incredibly Strange Message
Date: 29 Jul 1999 09:53:11 -0400




At 04:32 PM 7/27/99 -0400, you wrote:

>Alright...who put you up to this, Hans...Moritz, Magy?
>Jane Fondle...

Yes they did. It was not my fault. Actually they forced me. Here's a
message I got from them (and my answers):
(Moritz, Magy and Jane Fondle) -Hey Hans! On the 27:th of July you shall
write a strange message with "Incredibly Strange Message" in the subject!
 (Me) -But that sounds really ridiculous to me.
(Moritz, Magy and Jane Fondle) -Shut up bloody newcomer and listen to this:
We just can't have a list discussing incredibly strange music, with noone
writing an incredibly strange message, that to us would be a very strange
list, so someone has got to do it, and it happens to be you!

HAHA!  Thanks for obliging!  It's good to have some NICE vibes on this list
for a change!

...no to be quite honest with you, I was listening to a Caramba LP, and
then tried writing a letter with their strange language.

>>And here are the Caramba members:

GIORGIO MARTINI, producto


Is this really George Martin?  Doth anybody know?
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Subject: (exotica) Musicians opinions solicited
Date: 29 Jul 1999 07:14:08 -0700 (PDT)


Hi!  Please reply to me off list unless you think your
opinion will edify others on these lists.
Astroslut's web page will soon be up...and we plan to
put MP3 files on there...It has been suggested that we
put entire song(s) on it, rather than, or in addition
to, excerpts.  I am not so sure I am comfortable with
that...because of the old "home taping kills new
music" ethic of the 8ts.  However, we want to make
everybody happy-n-stuff.
What is the value of putting up entire song(s) -v-
making :30 samples available...so people can go, "Oh,
that's what they sound like, isn't that cool(or
uncool), I will (won't) buy their album" etc.?
Thanks-Jane Fondle, reachin' out and touchin' ya'll
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Wordless vocal(ists)
Date: 29 Jul 1999 07:36:36 +0000


At 07:06 AM 29-07-99, you wrote:
>I'm assembling a page reviewing some of the more noteworthy recordings with
>wordless vocals and the vocalists responsible for them--like Marni Nixon,
>Patricia Clark, Mary Mayo, Loulie Jean Norman.  If you know of any names I
>should be sure to mention, please email me

Okay.

Leda Annest
Portrait of Leda
Composed and Conducted by Phil Moore
Columbia WL 114
from Adventures in Sound series

The whole record is wordless vocals with orchestra.  From the notes:

"The girl re-creates the human animal in totality that poor dissected
specimen on whose behalf no antivivisectionist society has yet been formed,
the dismantled creature of today's world on whose every nostril and
extremity there are a dozen authorities."

huh?

better this:

"Leda sings not to the ears but to the sympathetic nervous system."

As far as I know she only did one album, but this is incredible.  What a
range,
what animal passion!

Unfortunately it is one long thing, so difficult to break up for small
doses... but for listening at home (and not for playing on the radio) it is
incredible and you want to listen to it all.

Byron

Byron Caloz
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From: "Dom Ciccone" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Radio (was Libraries)
Date: 29 Jul 1999 10:02:53 -0400



-----Original Message-----
>
>>Does the college you are going too have a radio station? If they do EMA=
IL
>>
>>them and tell em your comin'
>>
>>Hee Haw! You will be a shoo in.
>
>Not here in Boston. Air slots are tighter than..............
>
If I may use the list to continue this thread. Their are a lot of station=
s
in outlying areas that still reach a large audience. This may be the case=
 in
many metropolitan areas.

The station I do Martinis with Mancini is about 30 miles from Boston and =
has
a potential listening audience of 2.2 million.

I also volunteer at another larger public radio station, WICN, in Worcest=
er
MA.  This station is in Central MA and the signal goes into 2 other state=
s,
NH and RI.
(Check out their web page at http://www.wicn.org/ I'm in one of the
pictures, under station info)
Last night I was talking to the GM at WICN about the record sale they wil=
l
be having in October and pitched my idea (again) for a lounge program. I =
am
making progress, they are beginning to listen. They tell me they may have=
 a
slot opening up in the evening somewhere. I am dropping off demo tapes of=
 my
show on WJUL and making myself available as a substitute for their jazz a=
nd
blues programs. They need subs this summer. Now if they give me a regular
show I'll have to find time to do it! I'm stretched out and will most lik=
ely
tape the show as I am busy most evenings.

I encourage all the exoticats on the list who are not already DJ's or
actually *making* the music to start out and get involved with small
eclectic radio stations. Help with the pledge drives. Show that you know =
a
lot about "nitch" musical genres and respect all types of music. Public
radio is still a business, so mention that people pledge money to these
types of programs. (If anyone has data they could like to share on this f=
or
my eventual presentation I could appreciate it, EMAIL me privately)

With talk of club nights drying up lets take to the airwaves!

Domenic
=93Martinis With Mancini" broadcasting Friday's from 6-9 AM.
WJUL 91.5, Lowell Massachusetts.
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wordless vocal(ists)
Date: 29 Jul 1999 16:16:00 +0100 (BST)


Well, I can suggest the Jumping Jacques LP as it is ALL wordless vocals.
Does anyone have this LP? It has some brilliant moments. I had never heard
of this band before the "Beat Actzione" bootleg.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Wordless vocal(ists)
Date: 29 Jul 1999 17:12:08 +0100


Jill Mingo wrote:
>

> of this band before the "Beat Actzione" bootleg.

Is that still available anywhere? I never got round to buying that...


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Dimitri From Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 16:03:04 +0200


At 10:32 -0600 99/07/28, cheryl wrote:

>Do NOT buy the domestic version - hunt out the
>European import

    funny you say that, i would recommend the opposite ;-)
    this is a re-post:

    French version:

    This French issue has a couple of tracks not found on the US issue:
"La rythme et la cadence", "Free ton style", the mystery bonus track based
upon Mancini's "Lujon", and a short dialogue fragment "Melancholique? Mon
cu". "Dirty Larry" appears in a  different, shorter version.

    USA version:

    Not only the cover is different from the French issue; missing are:
"La rythme et la cadence", "Free ton style", the mystery bonus track based
upon Mancini's "Lujon", and a short dialogue fragment "Melancholique? Mon
cu". "Dirty Larry" appears in a totally different and longer "Crue-L Grand
Orchestra Remix" (8:04) by enji Takimi; the French version has a techno
beat, while this remix is much more gentle on the nerves. Extra tracks not
found on the French issue are: "Love love mode" (7:05), and another bonus
mystery track that I called "Love love love" (4:19). The track "Epilogue"
is not mentioned on the track list, but it is  found after track 18.

    confusing!

        Johan


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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Dimitri From Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 18:15:22 +0100 (BST)


My two cents on Dimitri...

I bought the LP (Euro version, double vinyl) when it first came out,after
already liking "Free Ton Style" as a 12". Thought it was good, but could be
a lot better. Kinda the same electronic trick on each track with the loops,
but still pleasant and as a DJ, the kind of stuff you can play that is nice
and fairly crowd-pleasing. "Une very stylish fille" got used for a
commerical in the UK, which also helped for the DJ set. "Free ton Style" is
a beautiful mellow house track - nothing one would gurn on speed to.
Although it is modern and elecronic, it certainly has nothing to do with
raves - I know...I dance to techno at will and promote the sound for a
living. It's chilled beats that could be MUCH more creative, but is very
pleasant if you just take it for what it is. More to do with trip hop than
techno. Electronica than lounge, although it has lots of influences from
exotica/lounge.

Like it. Kept it. Play it. Look forward to more. Dimitri DJs house. Not
lounge or beatz. He's not bad. Very sexy and friendly. I'm a fan, but not a
groupie. (Meaning I enjoy, but don't worship at the altar of...)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:44:33 EDT


In a message dated 07/29/99 8:57:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< like someone who may
 personally not like or understand "lounge" music belittling Martin Denny   .
. . . >>

and that person will be hunted down by tiki bob (in desperate need of a
safari anyway) and will have their head cut off and offered to the tiki gods
after sitting a perched the spindle of my magnavox for at least 48 hour of
Afrodesia played constantly.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:55:43 EDT


In regards to this Dimitri (and the previous Bluegrass) discussion:

I just love this list.

Coming next week:

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: "You dick!" - J. Spiccolli
Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:59:29 EDT


what happened to that cryptic message anyway????

"I am not a crook (ed Dick)!"


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From: Marco \"Kallie\" Kalnenek <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) "Ay, man. Lead and I'll follow. Where's library?"
Date: 29 Jul 1999 18:36:27 +0200


"Kevin C." wrote:

> Robert McKenna wrote:
> >
> > i also work in a library,(creepy, three already on the list)
>
> Four! I am a librarian by trade (MLS),

I work as a book seller. Does that count too?

Marco

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Libraries
Date: 29 Jul 1999 18:36:33 +0200


jonathan wrote:

> I agree with this. In the library here in Portland Or they have the most
> amazing collection of musique concrete and old electronic tape music on
> immaculate vinyl.

The library in my hometown sold its vinyl collection about 5 years ago. Of
course I was there and I got about 100 LPs. Unfortunately all the jazz albums
were gone, but all of the electronic and modern classical albums were still
there. One great find was an album with Musique ConcrΦte by Pierre Schaeffer. I
also got the copy of 'Hot Rats' that introduced me to Frank Zappa about 10
years earlier. I still cherish that record.

Marco


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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Danny Jannsen
Date: 29 Jul 1999 12:15:59 -0700 (PDT)


Does anyone know who this cat is?  Apparently, he wrote the tunes that
played during some of the chases on the Scooby Doo show.

Does he have any pedigree beyond that?  Was he part of Our Gang or the
Archies or anything like that?  Anyway, it's not really Soft Pop, but
is pretty good bubblegum music, with cuts like "I'm in Love with an
Ostrich".

Also, occasionally Spanky reminded me of, pretty obviously, a
sub-standard Mamas and the Papas, but also Tommy James and the
Shondells.

I dunno.  Pretty mainstream, but that's what they reminded of, so
there.


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From: Ben Waugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Littleton Rounds
Date: 29 Jul 1999 12:43:13 -0700 (PDT)


While visiting pals in Littleton (yes, that Littleton
- a town that screams "I deserve obscurity" despite
itself), I hit a couple of thrift shops and found:

A ceramic coconut mug (I know, I don't care either,
but I like to share)
Alcoa Presents: One Step Beyond. Neato late 50s or
early 60s supernaturally focused TV show soundtrack.
Features such electro gimmickry as the trautonium and
the novachord. Contains the tune Fear, later covered
by The Ventures - with female ooh-ah wordless vocals.

Neal Hefti's Batman ST.

The Addicts Sing.

Merrill Womack (sp?): Merrill. This is a 1980 followup
to his 1st, featured in Biafra's section of ISM. Big
(Freddie) Krugeresque mug on the front: some fun
covers of Bridge Over Troubled Water (Try Face Over
Sizzling Skillet), Blowin In the Wind and other happy
hippie tunes. This guy's puss looks like it did hard
time on the critical end of a rocket booster. That is
the only merit of his records.

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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) That %(#&%@ Ethel Azama
Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:09:32 -0700 (PDT)


Hers is a most-wanted exotica record that continues to
allude me...how difficult is it to find?  I doubt it
was ever reissued, right?

Having an Azama-attack,
Jane Fondle

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Subject: (exotica) Re:  Spanky pronouncement
Date: 29 Jul 1999 16:29:13 EDT



In a message dated 7/29/99 3:16:55 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Spanky reminded me of, pretty obviously, a
>sub-standard Mamas and the Papas

A statement with no examples. How refreshing to read an uninformed opinion!
Which Spanky songs remind you of lesser versions of which Mamas and Papa's
songs? Which albums of Spanky's do you find lesser than which Mamas and Papas
albums? Not that these are fighting words, but since my reaction to Spanky's
music is that its far more eclectic and varied than Mamas and Papas, I find
your Glittering Generality puzzling......But a quick word on the Mamas and
Papas.  For Soft pop fans their early 7T's LP "People Like Us" is superb and
I do mean superb. Overlooked and underloved, this is the pinnacle of all they
were striving for and never achieved because they were always trying to sing
too hard. On this LP, I think their last,. they finally get those soft vocals
right, and the music has a sitar sound and a fuzz guitar in the background
that adds fuel to the softness. The price is generally low on this one. Few
dealers seem to value it......Jimmy Botticelli/use some today


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Subject: (exotica) Re: That %(#&%@ Ethel Azama
Date: 29 Jul 1999 15:45:36 -0500


>Having an Azama-attack,


hee hee!  STOP  IT!

it shouldn't be that hard to find...  i've seen a few over the years.
unless you want to spend no more than a quarter.  that's trickier.

visit...

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From: Michael Zadoorian <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Dimetri from Paris and his Western Swing Band
Date: 30 Jul 1999 05:25:13 +0000


Wow.  I've just been on the list for a week and there's already been two
major
contoversies.  First the Western Swing incident, now this whole Dimetri
from
Paris thing.  Is it always like this?  It's kind of exciting, but scary.

I hope no one yells at me for saying this.
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From: "Robbie Baldock" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Wordless vocal(ists)
Date: 29 Jul 1999 22:43:24 +0100


m h jemmeson wrote:

> Jill Mingo wrote:
> > of this band before the "Beat Actzione" bootleg.
>
> Is that still available anywhere? I never got round to buying that...

Neither did I (drat!) but I see it's still available through a couple of
places at http://www.gemm.com/ though whether the dealers
advertising it there actually still have copies - I have to say I'm a
little dubious!

Don't all rush at once now...


Robbie


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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Vive le Gumby Electronique!
Date: 29 Jul 1999 18:04:11 -0400


My sleeping has been rather erratic of late, so I woke up at three AM and
flipped to the Cartoon Network and they were showing Gumby.  He was on the
moon, but what was in the background was wonderfully odd sine-wave
generator stuff.  No hummable melodies and very fitting.  The credits
listed, I believe a "Jeff Gerber" for music.  Do I have the correct name
(the other name I gleaned from the Internet Movie Database was John Seely,
also known for later Warner Bros. music.).

Any info on Gerber?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimetri from Paris and his Western Swing Band
Date: 30 Jul 1999 00:43:04 +0200


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> I hope no one yells at me for saying this.
> signed,
> anonymous

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From: Peter Risser <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Spanky pronouncement
Date: 29 Jul 1999 17:26:28 -0700 (PDT)


Hey, pops.
I didn't intend them to be fightin' words.  More likely, educatin'
words.  I'm looking for someone to show me why it ain't true.

I'll go listen again and give more specific examples, all of which are
based off the Greatest Hits comp.

Also, I said they "remind me of sub-standard Mamas and the Papas" which
you'd have difficulty refuting, since you are not me.  That's what they
remind me of.  I'm sorry if they remind you of something else, or you
like them more than you like M & P, but so be it.

What is with this list recently, with everyone being so damn touchy?

I'll maintain that I like the Mamas and the Papas better than I like
Spanky OR Fifth Dimension.   I'm not saying they're better or more
worthwhile.  Just that I like M&P better and Spanky less.  Can you
abuse me of that notion?  No.  That's what *I* like.

Feel free to argue the merits of Spanky vs. M&P, since maybe that way
you can kindly show me what it is about them you find so fascinating.

In the meantime, your reply has left *me* with no examples to reference
to further my education or change my listening style to better
understand what you find so special about Spanky.


California Dreamin',

Peter


PS: I don't like Mamas and the Papas *that* much by the way.  Just
better than Spanky at this particular moment in time.

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Subject: (exotica) Re:  Spanky pronouncement
Date: 29 Jul 1999 17:26:29 -0700 (PDT)


Hey, pops.
I didn't intend them to be fightin' words.  More likely, educatin'
words.  I'm looking for someone to show me why it ain't true.

I'll go listen again and give more specific examples, all of which are
based off the Greatest Hits comp.

Also, I said they "remind me of sub-standard Mamas and the Papas" which
you'd have difficulty refuting, since you are not me.  That's what they
remind me of.  I'm sorry if they remind you of something else, or you
like them more than you like M & P, but so be it.

What is with this list recently, with everyone being so damn touchy?

I'll maintain that I like the Mamas and the Papas better than I like
Spanky OR Fifth Dimension.   I'm not saying they're better or more
worthwhile.  Just that I like M&P better and Spanky less.  Can you
abuse me of that notion?  No.  That's what *I* like.

Feel free to argue the merits of Spanky vs. M&P, since maybe that way
you can kindly show me what it is about them you find so fascinating.

In the meantime, your reply has left *me* with no examples to reference
to further my education or change my listening style to better
understand what you find so special about Spanky.


California Dreamin',

Peter


PS: I don't like Mamas and the Papas *that* much by the way.  Just
better than Spanky at this particular moment in time.

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From: "Stephen W. Worth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 29 Jul 1999 18:09:14 -0700


>...like someone who may personally not like or understand
>"lounge" music belittling Martin Denny or Esquivel as cheesy,
> novelty music for people who like to dress up in dinner
>jackets and fezes and sip martinis while disparaging any
>album recorded after 1972.

Let me make you a little more angry if I may...

I would like to make it clear that although I listen to
Esquivel and Martin Denny on occasion, I do in fact think
they *are* pretty much cheesy, novelty music. I think that
musically, Prez Prado and Arthur Lyman are infinitely
superior.

When this whole "Lounge" thing happened, I cringed because
all it meant to me was that any old Easy Listening album in
the used bin was going to be marked up to outrageous prices,
regardless of how good it was. It also irritated me that most
of the CD compilations included the goofiest and least
listenable cuts of the artists they featured, and the digital
remastering (read "digital mauling") on most of them ended
up making purely acoustic bands sound like buzzy
synthesizers. A clean copy of the original vinyl sounds
much better than the CD in almost every case.

When it comes to the silly hats and "lounge culture" you
can leave me out. I do not own a fez, and I prefer to sip
my Gin and Tonic (not Martinis) out of a normal glass. It
doesn't have to be shaped like a pirate skull or coconut
monkey. I don't like this music for the costume that goes
with it... I happen to actually like the music itself.

That is why I rebel against the title "Lounge". The types
of music that fall under that misnomer are actually
several different genres: Pop Vocals, Percussion Music,
Exotica, Sweet Big Band, etc... To me, the term "lounge"
is nothing but a marketing term meant to describe a
transitory fad created by record labels. In fact, its
time may have already passed. I don't think that is
necessarily a bad thing. It just means that the prices
will come back down to earth and record collectors
will be able to share discoveries about the *MUSIC*
among themselves without hipsters in leopard spot
smoking jackets peering over their shoulders to see
if it has a girl in a kitty cat leotard on the cover.

When it comes to a cut-off date for when music started
to get bad, I would cite 1964, not 1972. When the
Beatles hit and Capitol records phased out their
excellent big band, country and pop vocal divisions,
it marked the beginning of the end in my opinion. From
then on, there was only one kind of music left... rock.
And as we all now by now, there hasn't been a single
new development in the sound of "rock" in almost twenty
years. Rock is like a disease spreading out and
absorbing all diversity. Rock "fusion" has pretty much
killed jazz and country, and it has even infected
classical music and opera.

I am proud to beleive that all Irishmen are drunks. I
think Goths are just depressed clowns, and I also think
that all Mormons ride bicycles. I think stereotyping is
a great source of humor, and a way to define who we are,
or at least who we think we are. Feel free to
stereotype me as you see fit. ("old fart" might fit the
bill nicely...) Bah humbug!

hehehe

See ya
Steve


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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 29 Jul 1999 21:13:15 EDT


In a message dated 7/29/99 8:44:17 AM EST, [e-mail] writes:

<< << Personally I don't care where you buy your shoes, but I can suggest
where
 you
  wear them. >>

 sounds like Ashley has a bee in his bonnet over this one.  jeez,
 man....lighten up... >>


I don't know what you are talking about....you can wear shoes to work, to the
mall, to restaurants...all kinds of places...no bees in no bonnets here.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 29 Jul 1999 21:51:00 EDT


In a message dated 7/29/99 6:07:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I would like to make it clear that although I listen to
 Esquivel and Martin Denny on occasion, I do in fact think
 they *are* pretty much cheesy, novelty music.  >>

Boy o' Boy.

Well, I gotta chime in on this one.  How in the world would you categorize
Esquivel and Denny as cheesy?  Have you ever listened to some of the less
mainstream Denny where his real abilities on the piano are highlighted?

Same with Esquivel -- the depth and variety of his work is tremendous.

And we gotta refer to groups of things having a common nature by general
names.  Thus I don't take offense at the them Lounge.  Tho I would never
destine Denny or Esquivel to the lounge.

Think of it this way, how you gunna laugh at the Irishmen and Mormons if you
can't collectively refer to them quickly  and as a group with the above
monikers?

And the comments about the hats, tiki mugs, etc.  Some of just like to
collect things.  So Bigshot, you don't have ANYTHING you collect?  If you do
please tell us because we want to make fun of you too.

Sheez

Proud of my tiki mugs, idols, paper umbrellas, vinyl and a ton of other shit
I collect - but alas, no fez ---------  yet ! ! ! !,

Tiki Bob
(he said something in a negative light about Denny -- you knew I would have
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Subject: (exotica) Where do i get one of these???
Date: 29 Jul 1999 22:00:18 EDT


In a message dated 7/29/99 6:07:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< and I prefer to sip
 my Gin and Tonic (not Martinis) out of a normal glass. It
 doesn't have to be shaped like a pirate skull or coconut
 monkey. >>


I have been looking for one of those coconut monkey mugs  but can't find one.
 I can find the Monkeypod monkey mugs and the coconut coconut mugs  (as well
as the ceramic coconut mugs  and the brass monkeys which are not mugs at all)
but not the coconut monkey mugs.

I had a line on a coconut monkey mug about a year ago but the person who took
out the classified ad meant "nut monkey" (it was actually a monkey made from
pecan shells --- which we in the South say "Pee-can" not "Pee-con" like the
Yankees do).

Anyway, if anyone has a lead on the coconut monkey mug let me know because it
will look totally ridiculous and silly next to my Anita Bryant skull mug
(complete with hair and a little sign that says "We reserve the right to
refuse service to Gays or Irishmen or Mormon on bicycles).

With warmest regards,

I remain, with a silly name,

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 29 Jul 1999 22:06:19 EDT


In a message dated 7/29/99 6:07:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< I think stereotyping is
 a great source of humor, and a way to define who we are,
 or at least who we think we are. Feel free to
stereotype me as you see fit. ("old fart" might fit the
bill nicely...) Bah humbug!>>


There are many on the List who will appreciate you making the above remark
--- of course they really don't need your permission to stereotype you  --
you sorta did that yourself.

And "Old Fart" would be considered by many, but not necessarly myself, as
being to kind.  But one might suggest, and again not me per se, that the
mention of the word "fart" at least puts you in the right anatomical
neighborhood.

Only offering the opinions that "others" might have,

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From: "m.ace" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri from Paris and his Western Swing Band
Date: 29 Jul 1999 23:09:22 -0400


>Wow.  I've just been on the list for a week and there's already been two
>major
>contoversies.  First the Western Swing incident, now this whole Dimitri
>from
>Paris thing.  Is it always like this?  It's kind of exciting, but scary.

No, it's normally been peace, love and cocktails. Did you jinx us or something? (only kidding)

And now we've got Stephen and Bob duking it out! What's the deal, brethren and sistren? Crazy from the heat? Put on your favorite easy track, cool down and think tolerant thoughts.

Ron, maybe you've got some sort of good vibes candle to burn on your altar?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Danny Jannsen
Date: 29 Jul 1999 23:19:27 EDT


Funny you should mention this.  I was just pulling up his stuff on All Music.
 He co-wrote with Bobby Hart (of Boyce & Hart) much of the Josie & the
Pussycats music (creme de la creme of bubblegum says me).  He was not a
member of the Archie gang, nor Spanky as far as I know.

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From: "Craig L. Carlson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) exotica-digest Thursday, July 29 1999 Volume 02 : Number 463
Date: 30 Jul 1999 00:21:54 -0400


Somebody wrote:

> Where should I buy my shoes?

Railroad Salvage, New Haven, CT. or Building 19, Haverhill MA.

Craig

www.psn.net/~ccarlson/index.html
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From: Michael Toth <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update
Date: 30 Jul 1999 00:19:37 -0500


Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]> wrote:

>           - July 26: other interesting finds I stumbled on -

>* Xavier Cugat: "16 Most Requested Songs"
>      CD, Columbia, USA, 199?

This is so-so to my tastes, as were his Columbia LPs that I've picked up.
I got mine cheap, thankfully. This is part of a whole Columbia artist
series (Rosemary Clooney, etc.)

>* Neal Hefti : "Batman "
>      CD, RCA, USA, 199?

I wonder if this is the blandly text-only-packaged reissue of _Batman
Theme + 11 Hefti Bat Tunes_ that RCA/BMG rushed out in the late 80s to
cash in on the Batman movie craze at the last minute (although my copy is
merely titled "Neal Hefti" on the spine). The Razor & Tie CD makes this
one useless.

>* Perez Prado: "Jazz"
>      CD, Orfeon, USA, 199?

There are ZILLIONS of these Orfeon CDs of mostly late Prado material,
with really overwhelming cross-over of uneven content between CDs. I've
given up on them from sheer confusion. There's a killer "Harlem Nocturne"
that I think is on this CD though, under the title "Jazz Nocturne."

>* Various Artists: "Exotic Sounds From Many Worlds"
>      CD, Milan, USA, 199?

What's this?? I couldn't turn it up on CD Now.


>* Various Artists: "Stay Awake"
>   (Various Interpretations Of Music From Vintage Walt Disney Films)
>      CD, A&M 3918, USA, 198?

1988. I'm amazed it's still in print. Funny...this album just came up in
a private e-mail exchange with a friend yesterday too...

This is a pretty cool record that has grown on me since I got it almost a
decade ago. Quite a wild roster, including Ken Nordine, Yma Sumac, Ringo
Starr (with Herb Alpert!), Sun Ra, Buster Poindexter, and even the likes
of The Replacements, Michael Stipe, Harry Nilsson, and Bonnie Raitt. This
definitely needs to be included in your CD overview list.

Tom Waits' version of "Hi-Ho, Hi-Ho" is just *priceless* and the gem of
the bunch. It sounds like the 7 Dwarfs are off to mine the pits of
Hell...hilariously horrifying. I actually quite dig the title track (by
Suzanne Vega).



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Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri From Paris
Date: 30 Jul 1999 00:26:55 EDT


This has been quite a successful little experiment.  When things get dull all
you need to do is express an extreme opinion (you don't even have to believe
it) and someone is bound to get all riled up and then people start talking.
How cool.

I'd like to thank everyone who participated. Thanks to Amanda for getting the
ball rolling, and special thanks go out to Ashley for his passion and the
poignant, intelligent points that he made.  I liked his references to
Dimitri's historical impact, it was a very nice observation.  I also loved
Andrew's comment about Casio demos being true exotica.  It got me thinking
about other electronic instruments and their demos and the work that went
into making them.  Man, in 30 years someone will be collecting and listening
to electronic interment demos.  Fascinating.  Also thanks to everyone else
who had something to say.  I can't forget Tiki Bob's shoes, he needs to post
a scan of them, so all can see.  This is what makes this list an amazing
forum of strong opinions and unique tastes.

Let's see who I can annoy next,

Love,
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 01:53:21 EDT


In a message dated 7/29/99 6:53:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Well, I gotta chime in on this one.  How in the world would you categorize
 Esquivel and Denny as cheesy?  Have you ever listened to some of the less
 mainstream Denny where his real abilities on the piano are highlighted? >>



I will have to agree there, if you get away from his hard core exotica stuff.
Listen to the album called THE VERSATILE MARTIN DENNY from 1963 on Liberty.
His version of MORE is beautiful. I am sure there are a million other
examples, he was a classically trained painist.


He also writes:
<<Same with Esquivel -- the depth and variety of his work is tremendous.>>


I agree, this man was/is  ahead of his time and is a genius. From the moment
I picked up my first Esquivel CD I was hooked. He damn well should have been
awarded at least one grammy in all the years he was nominated.


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From: Hugh Petfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re:  Spanky pronouncement
Date: 30 Jul 1999 08:42:06 +0100


>
>In a message dated 7/29/99 3:16:55 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>
>>Spanky reminded me
>>of, pretty obviously, a
>>sub-standard Mamas and the Papas
>
Can't agree.

Didn't Spanky stand in for the late (and missed) Cass Elliott when the Mamas
and Papas reformed a while back?

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Subject: (exotica) Vive le Gumby Electronique!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 04:03:41


On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:04:11 -0400, Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
wrote:

>My sleeping has been rather erratic of late, so I woke up at three AM and
flipped to the Cartoon Network and they were showing Gumby.  He was on the
moon, but what was in the background was wonderfully odd sine-wave
generator stuff.  No hummable melodies and very fitting.  The credits
listed, I believe a "Jeff Gerber" for music.  Do I have the correct name
(the other name I gleaned from the Internet Movie Database was John Seely,
also known for later Warner Bros. music.).

I have no info on Gerber, but you are probably referring to the New
adventures of Gumby (I don't know the exact name, but new episodes were
created about ten years ago, by the son of Gumby creator Art Clokey).

I only saw or once or twice, but remember thinking that they were the equal
of the original, only even weirder! And in the ones I saw, Gumby played in
a band with his friends, whose music sounded like an instrumental blend of
Devo and the Silicon Teens! Ok, maybe not as many "hummable melodies" as
those groups, but pretty good. It was a very strange thing to stumble onto
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Subject: (exotica) Musicians opinions solicited
Date: 30 Jul 1999 11:22:26 +0100


Ms F,

speaking as a terrible completist collector and trainspotter What about
alternate takes/mixes in their entirety,  I'm sure that for at least a
couple of the tracks you had some internal discussion about whether to use
the one with the slightly louder handclaps, or the one where its a great
performance just it just falls apart in a giggling fit halfway through,  or
whatever.  Its then a complement to the official release,  gives sad acts a
chance to collect the set and doesn't treat interested parties as the purely
commercial object.  Besides I always thought that the Home taping thing was
a complete load of bollocks,  if you'll excuse the language.

But then again as its only going to come out on CD I'm unlikely to be a
customer anyway......

The vinyl loving
El Maestro Con Queso

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http://www.sgillitt.dircon.co.uk/cheese/cheese.htm

<snip>.It has been suggested that we
put entire song(s) on it, rather than, or in addition
to, excerpts.  I am not so sure I am comfortable with
that...because of the old "home taping kills new
music" ethic of the 8ts.  However, we want to make
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 13:15:55 +0200


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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Dimitri from Paris and his Western Swing Band
Date: 30 Jul 1999 04:20:01 PDT


>
> >Wow.  I've just been on the list for a week and there's already been two
> >major
> >contoversies.  First the Western Swing incident, now this whole Dimitri
> >from
> >Paris thing.  Is it always like this?  It's kind of exciting, but scary.
>
>No, it's normally been peace, love and cocktails. Did you jinx us or
>something? (only kidding)
>
>And now we've got Stephen and Bob duking it out! What's the deal, brethren
>and sistren? Crazy from the heat? Put on your favorite easy track, cool
>down and think tolerant thoughts.
>
>Ron, maybe you've got some sort of good vibes candle to burn on your altar?

as someone pointed out before most people here access the net at work. they
are pissed off to be inside during the hot weather.
as for stereotypes irish being drunks? i can only speak for myself, and that
never after about 10. but mormons on bicycles? over here they walk (with big
white teeth and fresh skin), kinda funny they use bikes in the country who's
car addiction broke the sky....
welcome to the list, normal service will be resumed soon...
rob


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From: "Robert McKenna" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) la guepe
Date: 30 Jul 1999 04:30:35 PDT


i don't know if i mentioned this record before, i recently bought a
collection of french 7ts library music
'la guepe' volume 2 on dare dare records (a division of something else, if
anyone's interested i'll get the label details at home).
i'd kind of let it languish and dug it out last night (with a roland kirk
album i'd only listened to once, which has wonderful spots) and found it to
be a wonderful brew of cheesy funk / french moog, exotica funk (bird calls,
faux african chants). thoroughly recommended to anyone who goes for library
music. there's a cut by 'roger roger' on it, i seem to remember people
mentioning him before (it's a not great drum and tympani piece meant to
illustrate a rugby player from an album of sports themed music). one for
dancefloor and party (though the recording / pressing quality is not great
in places).

enjoy the music
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From: "Albert Fish" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Exotic Connecticut
Date: 30 Jul 1999 05:47:51 PDT


  Anyone know of a good record-hunting place in or near Niantic, CT?

Thanks for the spanks.

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 13:54:41 +0100 (BST)



><< I would like to make it clear that although I listen to
> Esquivel and Martin Denny on occasion, I do in fact think
> they *are* pretty much cheesy, novelty music.  >>

I just wanted to be the face of diplomacy here and first say that I don't
think Steve's comments are meant to be that harsh. I know what he means
about it being a bit "cheesy". Some Denny and Esquivel is a bit cringing,but
some is amazing. I happen to like sunshine pop, which is sickly sweet at
times. That is kinda what I enjoy, but my "serious" side sometimes goes
"Jill! What the hell are you listening to!" Then I remember, "good melodies,
fun lyrics, good arrangements...not cheese" We are predisposed to what is
"cheese". Society tells us that, and it is a constant struggle to remember
that "Macarena" is cheese,not bird calls.

I also sometimes have problems with the "look of lounge" although I also
really like it, and even pander to it, but sometimes I think that I am
cheapening the music, that people think it is style over content. and it
clearly is NOT. I know I've been born 30 years too late,and I have a lot of
modern things within my retro styling. Still being unique without falling
into trappings.

So I think I know how Steve feels. Sometimes you get a bit sickened by the
stylized labelling, but I know how Tiki B feels too. Both are totally valid.
But I don't think either have meant to be insulting.

Smokin' the peace pipe,

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: Jane Fondle <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Confessions of a fashion-victim!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 06:43:16 -0700 (PDT)




"What you are about to read is a true story.  Only my
measurements have been changed to protect the
overly-active imaginations..."

OK, I feel like mom, here, saying, IF YOU KIDS DON'T
BEHAVE, WE'RE PULLN' THIS CAR OVER *RIGHT NOW*!"

Regarding this whole "lounge-n-fashion" thing, I also
eschew the term "lounge" to describe what I like...I
think "easy listening" is funnier, but I don't use it
all the time, and it certainly is not often accurate.
Do I dress up at Combustible Edison shows, for
instance?  You betcher Sweet Aunt Agnes I do, whoever
she is.  I have been buying vintage clothes, aka
cocktail-wear though, for about 17 years and have worn
the same leapord and velvet outfits to Com Ed as I
used to wear to see punk and hardcore shows.  I just
like to dress up, ain't nothing wrong with looking
purty.
But when I used to live in Tampa, there was a
way-goofy "lounge" art show one night, upon which I
chose to pull out my faded Ramones shirt for the
occasion.  So, I know how people feel about attaching
too many cliches to something.

Are there tikis and fezes and rocket ships in my
house?  Again, Aunt Agnes, your on centre stage!  I AM
AN AESTHET,I cry from the hills.

And I am, as Brian Wilson once said, filled with an
"open to the positive, loving vibes of the universe."

Jane Fondle, Love Provider....

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From: Andrew Edgar <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:07:51 +0100


    Bon Jovi and Chicago  No  doubt  ,and other not cheesy, "serious"
Music=20

> > [e-mail] writes:
> >
> > << I would like to make it clear that although I listen to
> >  Esquivel and Martin Denny on occasion, I do in fact think
> >  they *are* pretty much cheesy, novelty music.  >>
> >
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> Contrary to what kind of music?
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Danny Jannsen
Date: 30 Jul 1999 09:30:25 -0500


Peter Risser wrote:
>
> Does anyone know who this cat is?  Apparently, he wrote the tunes that
> played during some of the chases on the Scooby Doo show.
>
> Does he have any pedigree beyond that?  Was he part of Our Gang or the
> Archies or anything like that?  Anyway, it's not really Soft Pop, but
> is pretty good bubblegum music, with cuts like "I'm in Love with an
> Ostrich".

I believe he wrote for Bobby Sherman, and
if that's not "pedigree", what is?

--

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Subject: (exotica) Josie and the Pussycats
Date: 30 Jul 1999 09:33:01 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:
>
> Funny you should mention this.  I was just pulling up his stuff on All Music.
>  He co-wrote with Bobby Hart (of Boyce & Hart) much of the Josie & the
> Pussycats music (creme de la creme of bubblegum says me).  He was not a
> member of the Archie gang, nor Spanky as far as I know.

Have Josie & the Pussycats songs been re-issued on
any CD, though?

--

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From: Brad Bigelow <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Rumors about the death of my website are greatly exaggerated
Date: 30 Jul 1999 07:13:09


>From: <[e-mail]>
>Subject: (exotica) Brad??
>
>Looks like the Exotica Standards site is dead...1
>(http://www.netrail.net/~bbigelow/homepage.htm)
>
>- -Kevin Crossman
>
>
>Is that true?  Brad's still here, aren't ya?  Please?
>Jane Fondle
>

Yes, the site is alive and well, still being added to.  I plan to move it
to its own domain (www.spaceagepop.com) eventually.  Paid for the
name--just need to find the time to rent a U-Haul truck, so to speak.

Unfortunately, Ms. McKnight-Trontz didn't check her links before
publication and now people who find the URL in "Exoticaquarium" think the
site is dead.  I moved from Netrail in June 1997, so the site's actually
been at Earthlink for more than half its existence.

I was never contacted by any of the authors of the three recent books on
exotica/lounge:  "Exoticaquarium," "Forever Lounge," or "The MusicHound
Guide to Lounge," despite the fact that all three plagiarize liberally from
my site.  As illustrations, I offer the following for comparison:

"Exoticaquarium's" "The Songs" (p.11) with my section on Space Age Pop
Standards:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/standard.htm

"Exoticaquarium's" section on Exotica (p. 39-45) with my discussion of
Exotica on:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/whatis.htm

"Exoticaquarium's page on Ernesto Lecuona with my pages on Lecuona and his
songs:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/lecuona.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/lecusong.htm

"Exoticaquarium's" list of artists (p.104-105) with the lists of composers
and performers covered on my site:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/composer.htm
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/performer.htm
(this is a harder comparison to make, since the book went off the lists I
had over two years ago, but you'll get the point)

MusicHound's article on Billy May with:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/may.htm

"Les is more," a listing of Les Baxter's film scores on page 37 of "Forever
Lounge" with:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/baxtfilm.htm

"Forever Lounge"'s samples of liner notes for Johnny Keating, Anita Kerr,
Morton Gould, Perrey and Kingsley, Andre Popp, Ferrante & Teicher, Arthur
Lyman, The Three Suns, and April Stevens with:
http://home.earthlink.net/~spaceagepop/prose.htm

...not to mention that I think I provided "Forever Lounge" with its primary
source for its discographies...

I mention all this just for the sake of setting the record straight.  I
don't do this for money in the first place, so I'm not going to make a
Federal case out of this.

OK, time to get off the soapbox.

Brad Bigelow
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re:  Spanky pronouncement
Date: 30 Jul 1999 10:28:05 EDT



In a message dated 7/29/99 8:27:19 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>Hey, pops.
>I didn't intend them to be fightin' words.  More likely, educatin'
>words.

OK L'il Petey, thanks for the lesson. Next time put some content into your
curriculum!  I forgive you and have to add, its damned hot here PLUS I've
been on a serious Soft Pop binge lately, and the two groups in question are
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From: [e-mail] (Mimi Mayer)
Subject: Re: (exotica)Prez and Stay Awake  (Was New eXotica Releases Overview Update)
Date: 30 Jul 1999 09:41:16 -0500


At 12:19 AM 7/30/99, Michael Toth wrote:

>>* Perez Prado: "Jazz"
>>      CD, Orfeon, USA, 199?
>
>There are ZILLIONS of these Orfeon CDs of mostly late Prado material,
>with really overwhelming cross-over of uneven content between CDs. I've
>given up on them from sheer confusion.

Thanks, Michael! Do you know (or does anyone know), is there a CD reissue
of the RCA-Victor lp "PREZ" PRADO (LSP1556)? I'm loco for this record but
my copy got mauled before I scooped it naked outta the thrift bin. Tunes
are:
Lullaby of Birdland          Maria Bonita
=46light of the Bumblebee      Cu-Cu-Rru-Cu-Cu
Leo's Special                La Borrachita
Come Back to Sorrento        Machaca
=46ireworks                    Adios Mi Chaparrita
Marta

I second Michael's remarks about STAY AWAKE, the Disney cover compilation,
although my fav cut is Sun Ra doing Pink Elephants on Parade. And Ringo
crooning When You Wish Upon a Star makes me tear up....*blush*. It's
another Hal Willner mix -- the boy genius from Philly who also produced
terrific tribute records of the music of:
Kurt Weill (can't find the record for the title)
Nino Rota     AMARCORD     Hannibal      84
Thelonius Monk  THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL NOW   A&M      81
I came to count on Hal to match musicians with material in unexpected ways
that sound right on target after a few listens. Like Shockabilly covering
Monk's Criss Cross.

Anyone know what Willner is up to these days?

TIA, Mimi





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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re:  Spanky pronouncement
Date: 30 Jul 1999 10:38:02 EDT



In a message dated 7/29/99 8:27:40 PM, [e-mail] wrote:

>I'll go listen again and give more specific examples, all of which are
>based off the Greatest Hits comp.

"Greatest Hits" comps are  nice introductions, but hardly the True Grit of a
group.

>Also, I said they "remind me of sub-standard Mamas and the Papas" which
you'd have difficulty refuting, since you are not me.

But as your forbear I know a lot more than you about music and that's simple
fact not egotistical bellowing. So when it comes to some facts about music
from the 60's, I tell you, you don't tell me.......
>
>What is with this list recently, with everyone being so damn touchy?

I thought Ashley was right to take the stand he did.  He has certainly stuck
his neck out on behalf of music's advancement and I have personally witnessed
his passion for and about current music in the "realm" we discuss here. His
assertion about the timeliness on Dimitri's release in 1996 was right on the
money and why should he care whether someone thinks he's "touchy"?

>I'll maintain that I like the Mamas and the Papas better than I like
Spanky OR Fifth Dimension.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Rumors about the death of my website are greatly
Date: 30 Jul 1999 10:38:09 -0400






I mention all this just for the sake of setting the record straight.  I
don't do this for money in the first place, so I'm not going to make a
Federal case out of this.

OK, time to get off the soapbox.

Brad Bigelow
[e-mail]


>>>Brad and BasciHip make me yearn for the "old days" of this list, when it
was filled with the moooovers and shakers of both the music industry and
also of just record collecting.  I always appreciate the reasoned knowledge
and insight guys like you and Cleve provide.  This list has really become
sorta The Jerry Springer Show Mit Birdcalls lately.  Perhaps I am guilty of
pandering as well, but I truly appreciate the music-education.  That's why
I signed on from the beginning.
Admiringly,
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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 11:50:38 +0100 (BST)



><< I would like to make it clear that although I listen to
> Esquivel and Martin Denny on occasion, I do in fact think
> they *are* pretty much cheesy, novelty music.  >>

I just wanted to be the face of diplomacy here and first say that I don't
think Steve's comments are meant to be that harsh. I know what he means
about it being a bit "cheesy". Some Denny and Esquivel is a bit cringing,but
some is amazing. I happen to like sunshine pop, which is sickly sweet at
times. That is kinda what I enjoy, but my "serious" side sometimes goes
"Jill! What the hell are you listening to!" Then I remember, "good melodies,
fun lyrics, good arrangements...not cheese" We are predisposed to what is
"cheese". Society tells us that, and it is a constant struggle to remember
that "Macarena" is cheese,not bird calls.

I also sometimes have problems with the "look of lounge" although I also
really like it, and even pander to it, but sometimes I think that I am
cheapening the music, that people think it is style over content. and it
clearly is NOT. I know I've been born 30 years too late,and I have a lot of
modern things within my retro styling. Still being unique without falling
into trappings.

So I think I know how Steve feels. Sometimes you get a bit sickened by the
stylized labelling, but I know how Tiki B feels too. Both are totally valid.
But I don't think either have meant to be insulting.

Smokin' the peace pipe,

Jill "Mingo-go"



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From: "Nathan Miner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Album cover book....
Date: 30 Jul 1999 10:44:59 -0400


Hey, I know this was mentioned before but I wasn't paying attention.....

How's that book called "Album covers from the vinyl junkyard...." (or =
something like that......)???

- Nate

(It's "bargain priced" through Edward Hamilton Booksellers....)




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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica) Spanky pronouncement
Date: 30 Jul 1999 10:00:08 -0500


Hugh Petfield wrote:

> Didn't Spanky stand in for the late (and missed) Cass Elliott
> when the Mamas
> and Papas reformed a while back?

Yes. A number of years ago, the retooled M's & P's played at the Minnesota
State Fair. This version consisted of John Phillips, Spanky, MacKenzie
Phillips, and Scott Something-or-other (he had a hit in the 60's, "San
Francisco"). Scott was a last minute replacement for Denny Whats-his-name.

Side-note: Chynna Phillips was there too, helping sell merchandise after the
show (this was looong before Wilson-Phillips).

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) shoes
Date: 30 Jul 1999 16:01:44 +0100


We never did sort out the loafers thing,  myself I vote for tassels,  I have
a nice pair of Italian brogues with tassels (if theres not too many
contradictions in there,  but I'm sure you listees can deal with hybrids)
but a want a pair of those old seventies boat like penny loafers with
tassels,  preferably in ox blood.  I got close 6 months ago,  but they only
had size 7 and 10 and a half (English sizes).

the sartorial

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Subject: (exotica) not dimitri?!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 16:07:38 +0100


Roy most recently mentioned

<snip>.  I also loved Andrew's comment about Casio demos being true exotica.
It got me thinking about other electronic instruments and their demos and
the work that went into making them.  Man, in 30 years someone will be
collecting and listening to electronic interment demos.  Fascinating.  Also
thanks to everyone else who had something to say.  I can't forget Tiki Bob's
shoes, he needs to post a scan of them, so all can see.  This is what makes
this list an amazing forum of strong opinions and unique tastes.

I have a friend with a 45 minute tape of demos from cheap keyboards,  I'm
sure he'll do copies..............

Afraid to say I have no opinion of dimitri, but as an ex raver and
techno-artiste I loved the original description,  especially the Olympic
class frotterism.


glibly

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) Willner
Date: 30 Jul 1999 16:17:56 +0100


Mimi asked: Anyone know what Willner is up to these days?

There was some discussion here  of a new CD about 6 months ago,  which I've
not seen.  I believe he played as part of the Nick Cave Meltdown Festival in
London recently,  the same series of concerts that got a lot of us up to see
Lee Hazlewood.  I didn't go to that one,  and haven't read any reports.
Surely someone else can add details.

In the know but not in the thick of it

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 17:18:19 +0200


Jill Mingo wrote:

> ><< I would like to make it clear that although I listen to
> > Esquivel and Martin Denny on occasion, I do in fact think
> > they *are* pretty much cheesy, novelty music.  >>
>
> I just wanted to be the face of diplomacy here and first say that I don't
> think Steve's comments are meant to be that harsh. I know what he means
> about it being a bit "cheesy".

First of all: he said "pretty much", not "a bit".

> I also sometimes have problems with the "look of lounge" although I also
> really like it, and even pander to it, but sometimes I think that I am
> cheapening the music, that people think it is style over content. and it
> clearly is NOT. I know I've been born 30 years too late,and I have a lot of
> modern things within my retro styling. Still being unique without falling
> into trappings.

The way you put things here, you don't talk about the music, but about the
circumstances. What people make of Exotica today, the surroundings. I always
had my diffculties with "lounge", cocktail zipping, chique dressing, small
talking. Not that I despise easy entertainment, but all this often seemed quite
"retro" to me, like a masquerade. To me Exotica was more a holy thing. And
that's why I have to protect Martin Denny here, because especially Martin
Denny, and especially his first 10 albums,  is not cheesy at all. Call me a
romantic, but many of his early titles are sheer beauty and wild power. I can
see nothing cheep or "made up" or false in it. It's a very unique way to
transform the jazz of the likes of Cal Tjader into a new sound system, that
makes the promise of imaginary Exotic worlds come true. As true as art can. BTW
in a time when it wasn't retro at all.

I find it hard to believe, that someone who works in the cartoon business,
calls this cheesy. I thought that meanwhile even cultural phenomena like
Disneyland are not just seen as lies and something false - cheap imitations of
the "real" world -, but as an art of its own. With all the imaginary aspects,
that they have.

I do agree - if that's what you mean / and I talked about this myself on this
list a long time ago - that one should be aware, that all this music from the
50s and 60s is from a distance past. We live at the edge of the 21st century
and times have changed and the music has changed. The way music is consumed has
changed. Things that once meant this, mean something else today. We shouldn't
close our ears to contemporary styles. I said this in the context of
discussions about Tipsy a.o., when people attacked Tipsy for their "simple"
ways of sampling and "exploiting" Exotica. I could extend this to the dicussion
about Dimitri: These sampling techniques are the way you do it today and
something will emerge from it. It is a step, but a step in the right direction.

Martin Denny was more than a step, he was a milestone. And he made a living
with his music, which explains his later albums. But they don't affect his
earlier works, not at all! I'd like to close this, claiming, that Martin Denny
is a timeless statement against cheesiness.

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Subject: Re: (exotica)Prez and Stay Awake
Date: 30 Jul 1999 11:12:54 -0500


Hello, Mimi!

You wrote:

>Thanks, Michael! Do you know (or does anyone know), is there a CD reissue
>of the RCA-Victor lp "PREZ" PRADO (LSP1556)?

Lucky you, it was one of the few Living Stereo reissues RCA/BMG Germany
put out a few years back. As imports go, it's fairly reasonably priced.
CD Now currently has it for $13.99 if you can't get anyone locally to
special order it for you.

Also, far better IMO is "Pops & Prado." Both have bonus tracks, some
previously unreleased. GREAT reissues. Grab 'em both before they go out
of print.

Another must-get Prado is the 23-track domestic "2 en Uno" CD, with two
groovy 1960s Mexican Prado LPs on one CD, including the spectacular "Tema
de Los Monkees" and a *fabulous*, earth-shattering "Sobre El Arco Iris"
("Somewhere Over the Rainbow"). Currently $9.49 at CD Now ($10.97 list),
and one of the best reissue deals around.

(I think CD Now is a great resource, especially for imports and stuff you
can't easily special order locally. I'd say I had no vested interest, but
that's no longer true now that I have a link from my Three Suns site
which gives me commission kickbacks from sales through that link!)

(Also, I don't think I EVER thanked you for that cool photocopied Command
catalog you mailed me eons ago. That was a LOT of work. THANK YOU. )



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Subject: Re: (exotica)Prez and Stay Awake  (Was New eXotica Releases Overview
Date: 30 Jul 1999 17:30:17 +0200


Mimi Mayer wrote:

> Thanks, Michael! Do you know (or does anyone know), is there a CD reissue
> of the RCA-Victor lp "PREZ" PRADO (LSP1556)? I'm loco for this record but
> my copy got mauled before I scooped it naked outta the thrift bin.

Yes, it's available on RCA Victor 7432 26052 2 - including 5 bonus tracks.



> I second Michael's remarks about STAY AWAKE, the Disney cover compilation,
> although my fav cut is Sun Ra doing Pink Elephants on Parade.

There's a complete Sun Ra CD on which he plays only music from Disney films.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Album cover book....
Date: 30 Jul 1999 17:30:47 +0200


Nathan Miner wrote:

> How's that book called "Album covers from the vinyl junkyard...." (or something like that......)???

I like it! More than 200 pages filled with many covers. They are grouped more or less thematically. Not
all records are rare or essential, but it's a nice book to browse through every once in a while.


> (It's "bargain priced" through Edward Hamilton Booksellers....)

As far as I know it has been deleted from the publisher's catalogue, so I guess it will turn up at a
low price at more places.
(In the Netherlands it's available for 20 Dutch guilders now at 'De Slegte')

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 17:32:17 +0200


Stephen W. Worth wrote:

> Esquivel and Martin Denny  *are* pretty much cheesy, novelty music.

and

> When this whole "Lounge" thing happened,  it meant that any old Easy
> Listening album  was going to be marked up to outrageous prices

> When it comes to the silly hats and "lounge culture" you
> can leave me out.  I don't like this music for the costume that goes
> with it... I happen to actually like the music itself.
>
> That is why I rebel against the title "Lounge".

All very well, Steve, but I don't see what Martin Denny has to do with this.
He never advised people to wear fezes as far as I know. ( But Ren wears a
fez...)

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Subject: (exotica) Perez Prado
Date: 30 Jul 1999 11:29:56 -0400





nother must-get Prado is the 23-track domestic "2 en Uno" CD, with two
groovy 1960s Mexican Prado LPs on one CD, including the spectacular "Tema
de Los Monkees" and a *fabulous*, earth-shattering "Sobre El Arco Iris"
("Somewhere Over the Rainbow"). Currently $9.49 at CD Now ($10.97 list),
and one of the best reissue deals around.


>>>Geez, the stuff you find in the GARBAGE, as I will explain about the
following record I rescued from a near-death! A Prado record I've not seen
mentioned before on this list is CONCIERTO PARA BONGOS, originally issued
on UA inthe 6ts...and the 7ts reisue I have is on the Raiz label.  What
makes this one so special is it's a weird mixture of the typical Prado-with
VERY garage-y Farfisa organ and rock rhythms!  Weird!  One side has all
these Latin-garage numbers, and the second is much like his longer exotica
suite.
Every Mambo and Frug together!
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Subject: RE: (exotica) Confessions of a fashion-victim!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 10:18:33 -0500


Jane Fondle wrote:

>But when I used to live in Tampa, there was a
>way-goofy "lounge" art show one night, upon which I
>chose to pull out my faded Ramones shirt for the
>occasion.

Ah, dear Jane - I would've thought you'd choose to pull
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Subject: Re: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update
Date: 30 Jul 1999 11:57:10 -0400


Regarding....

> >* Various Artists: "Exotic Sounds From Many Worlds"
> >      CD, Milan, USA, 199?
>
> What's this?? I couldn't turn it up on CD Now.

This cd was released in 1996 and was distributed by BMG. It's a sampler for
the Milan label which issues (mostly) soundtracks. So...on the soundtrack
side of things the disc includes selections by The Residents ("Tooth and
Claw" from the Hunters cd) as well as Stewart Copeland's "Ay Manu Wata Hai"
("Rapa Nui"), Moana & the Moa Hunters "Tahi" ("Once Were Warriors"),
Tomandandy's "Go!" ("Killing Zoe"), Ravi Shankar's "Title" ("Genesis"),
John Lurie's "Tuesday Night in Memphis" ("Mystery Train") and Ryuichi
Sakamoto's "Merry Christmas, Mr Lawrence" from the movie of the same
name...and so forth

The disc also contains a few non-soundtrack tracks including one by Popul
Vuh and the booty-shakin' sounds of the Choir of the Benedictine Nuns of
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Subject: Re:  RE: (exotica) Spanky pronouncement
Date: 30 Jul 1999 12:40:27 EDT



In a message dated 7/30/99 11:02:55 AM, [e-mail] wrote:

>MacKenzie Phillips, and Scott Something-or-other

 Scott MacKenzie......Now if MacKenzie Phillips had only gone for
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Subject: Re:  (exotica) Re:  Spanky pronouncement
Date: 30 Jul 1999 10:12:29 -0700 (PDT)


> >I'll go listen again and give more specific
> >examples, all of which are
> >based off the Greatest Hits comp.
>
> "Greatest Hits" comps are nice introductions, but
> hardly the True Grit of a
> group.


I agree. A lot of times they aim for the more mainstream tastes and
leave a lot of the cool edgier stuff out, which is the stuff I'm
interested in.

On the other hand, that's all I've got to listen to right now, unless I
run across a record of theirs cheap.

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Date: 30 Jul 1999 13:06:33 -0400




Jane Fondle wrote:

>But when I used to live in Tampa, there was a
>way-goofy "lounge" art show one night, upon which I
>chose to pull out my faded Ramones shirt for the
>occasion.

Ah, dear Jane - I would've thought you'd choose to pull
*off* your faded Ramones shirt for the occassion!

--

Thatz good talk Cap'n!  Keep talking like that and throw in something about
Jill's tight dresses, and the whole list'll be smiling and laughing again,
for a $(*%@&#@# change! ;)
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Subject: RE: (exotica)Prez and Stay Awake  (Was New eXotica Releases Overview Update)
Date: 30 Jul 1999 10:18:55 -0700


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Mimi Mayer
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 7:41 AM
> To: [e-mail]

> It's
> another Hal Willner mix -- the boy genius from Philly who also produced
> terrific tribute records of the music of:
> Kurt Weill (can't find the record for the title)

It's called "Lost in the Stars." Zorn, Waits, Reed, among others. But
doesn't St-ng sing "Mack the Knife" on it or something?

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Confessions of a fashion-victim!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 12:21:32 -0500


Yes, well, sometimes one must push aside pesky decorum and
say, Humma Humma, now!

[e-mail] wrote:

> Jane Fondle wrote:
>
> >But when I used to live in Tampa, there was a
> >way-goofy "lounge" art show one night, upon which I
> >chose to pull out my faded Ramones shirt for the
> >occasion.
>
> Ah, dear Jane - I would've thought you'd choose to pull
> *off* your faded Ramones shirt for the occassion!
>
> --
>
> Thatz good talk Cap'n!  Keep talking like that and throw in something about
> Jill's tight dresses, and the whole list'll be smiling and laughing again,
> for a $(*%@&#@# change! ;)
> Jane Fondle-who is made quite happy any time she buys a record! :)
>

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From: chuck <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Sunshine Pop 99
Date: 30 Jul 1999 11:27:45 -0700 (PDT)




On el records, compiled by Mike Alway comes the new compilation "Sunshine Pop 99"
With a picture from "The Party" gracing the cover and such a title I was hoping for 21
fine new upbeat modern sunshine pop tunes.  What I got were about 8 sunshine pop songs,
and the rest what I call soft indie pop songs influenced more by Pet Sounds/Rubber Soul
then by Spanky or the Association.

The highlight is the "We Can Fly" remake by loveletter.  They absolutely do a great
version of this song.  There are other really wonderful sunshine moments on here by
modern soft pop bands.

What I find curious is that "sunshine pop" seems to be an "in" movement.   This release
along with other modern lables such as Siesta are pointing the direction  to a more
upbeat sound in the modern soft pop world.

There have been 2 new releases of reissues  on Sequel records out of England called
"Dream Time,  Bristish Sunshine Pop" and "Look at the Sunshine,  British Sumertyme Pop
"  that are both excellent compilations bound to influence more modern musicians.

For me "soft pop" began in 1956 with Patience and Prudence and the Crew Cuts.  Patience
and Prudence could have been released in 1964 and not have sounded dated, what an
ingenious group!  These two bands are proof to me the rock and roll had a very large
influence from 1940's pop music and rythmn and blues vocal groups. It was a small step
from "Stardust" by Tommy Dorsey to Patience and Prudence to the Teddy Bears "To Know
Him Is To Love Him"  or the Fleetwoods.   The Teddy Bears sound very much like some of
the modern soft pop bands on the "Sunshine Pop 99" cd discussed above.   They brought
soft pop to its most basic elements as did the Fleetwoods and that sound is evident
today.  It was almost impossible for modern indie bands who strip down the production
not to come up with a sound similiar to the late 50's ballads, which for me are
stripped down versions of 1940-55 pop ballads.

What I am most curious about is when did the "sunshine pop" music first evolve?   I now
differentiate "sunshine pop" as a seperate genre from soft pop.  I think sunshine pop
started in 1966 or so and basically  died around 1970 when the more upbeat sound  gave
way to "soft rock".  I know there must be exceptions there always is.  Bubblegum
certainly was a facter in its coma. "Soft rock"  is a 1970's genre of rock ballads and
soft pop ballads with a country influence.  Soft rock is not as upbeat as soft pop or
sunshine pop.

What is so interesting about sunshine pop is Warner Brothers is helping to lead the way
on the west coast, but the midwest, especially  Chicago, and Texas,  and the east coast
in NY & Boston and especially  England were flooding the market with sunshine pop in
1967.   When I look at the Billlboard charts from 1967 it is shocking how many of the
songs fit the sunshine pop genre and they are from all over.

I have a huge 45 sunshine pop collection and certainly would like to help put together
any compilations.

What I really am enjoying is the modern soft pop music that started in England in the
early 1980s with bands like the Smiths and erupted in Japan with P5 and others  now is
branching out into the bigger production upbeat sound of sunshine pop 99.   The music
goes round and round.

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Subject: (exotica) Hong Kong
Date: 30 Jul 1999 11:33:37 PDT


Anyone have any thought, opinos on;
Music from "Hong Kong", Lionel Newman .

Just bought it. Still getting to know it.


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Subject: RE: (exotica)Prez and Stay Awake  (Was New eXotica Releases Overview Update)
Date: 30 Jul 1999 13:48:36 -0500


Ben wrote about Hal Willner's mix ..the music of:
>> Kurt Weill (can't find the record for the title)
>
>It's called "Lost in the Stars." Zorn, Waits, Reed, among others. But
>doesn't St-ng sing "Mack the Knife" on it or something?

AAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEE! I'd erased that bad memory -- completely obliterated it!
Am pretty sure Waits growls September Song, and Stan Ridgeway (???Wall of
Voodoo??? name right?) has a merry jog through Whiskey Bar.

Still looking for the damn record... Thanks y'all for the Prez leads and
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 14:46:31 EDT


In a message dated 07/30/99 11:20:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< To me Exotica was more a holy thing. And
 that's why I have to protect Martin Denny here, because especially Martin
 Denny, and especially his first 10 albums,  is not cheesy at all. Call me a
 romantic, but many of his early titles are sheer beauty and wild power. I can
 see nothing cheep or "made up" or false in it.  >>

If you did not read the above carefully -- GO BACK AND READ IT AGAIN ! ! !

Those thoughts summarize my thoughts too and bring, if not a tear to my eye,
a smile to my face and joy to my heart.

Corny but true.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 30 Jul 1999 14:47:54 EDT


In a message dated 07/30/99 11:20:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< Martin Denny was more than a step, he was a milestone. And he made a living
 with his music, which explains his later albums. But they don't affect his
 earlier works, not at all! I'd like to close this, claiming, that Martin
Denny
 is a timeless statement against cheesiness.

 Mo
  >>


Geez, this guy is good (Mo that is ! ! !)

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Sunshine Pop 99
Date: 30 Jul 1999 21:27:18 +0200


chuck wrote:

> On el records, compiled by Mike Alway comes the new compilation "Sunshine Pop 99"
>
> The highlight is the "We Can Fly" remake by loveletter.  They absolutely do a great
> version of this song.

behind the name stands Simon Fisher-Turner aka Simon Turner aka The King Of Luxembourg aka
etc., mentioned by me here numerous times. It's really hard when a musician changes his
name so often; I think it detrimented his career. The man deserves much more attention and
popularity.

http://www.mutelibtech.com/mute/sft/sft.htm

Here you can check out his Mute-website. Surprisingly the discography misses two of his
best works, the incredibly cute teenie pop album Serx Appeal and the loveletter LP, which
not only has We can fly, but a great version of Barbarella as well, which is also to be
found on the Marina compilation Songs For Marshmallow Lovers. Remember me posting about
this?

See... the memory.

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Subject: Re: Caramba, Re: (exotica) Incredibly Strange Message
Date: 30 Jul 1999 21:34:52 +0200




Hans Adell wrote:

> Here's a message I got from them (and my answers):
> (Moritz, Magy and Jane Fondle) -Hey Hans! On the 27:th of July you shall
> write a strange message with "Incredibly Strange Message" in the subject!

I'm not involved.

> If you haven't heard it, have a look at the great Hubba
> Hubba Zoot-Zoot lyrics:
>
> "Hubba hubba zoot-zoot
> Nam!
> Ebba obba zat-zat
> Nam!
> Pa huvee, pa huvee, paa
> Pahab huvee paa
> A nam nam?
> A nam!"

This is Marsupilami-language. I don't speak it, but I'm sure on some list for
"Spirou et Phantasio" or Franquin you get an excellent translation.

> GASTON EL TON YON, pianissimo

Gaston! See! Another Franquin character.

That was easy...

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Subject: (exotica) Re: Perez Prado (and the Mysterians...?)
Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:35:47 -0500



>A Prado record I've not seen
>mentioned before on this list is CONCIERTO PARA BONGOS, originally issued
>on UA inthe 6ts...and the 7ts reisue I have is on the Raiz label.

And it was reissued on CD by Polydor in the early 90s, falling out of
print just after everything else was starting to be reissued. The CD
seems as hard to find as its original vinyl (which is really hard to
find, around here at least). I bought my CD from someone used off the Net.

>What
>makes this one so special is it's a weird mixture of the typical Prado-with
>VERY garage-y Farfisa organ and rock rhythms!  Weird!  One side has all
>these Latin-garage numbers, and the second is much like his longer exotica
>suite.

The second half is, as you described, well, his exotic "bongo concert,"
from whence the album title comes; but that ? & The Mysterians thing
going on in those other tracks is the clincher. There are some tracks in
this "garage-y" vein on that "2 en Uno" disc, including the
aforementioned "Over the Rainbow," which just *rocks*.

? & the Mysterians are actually Hispanic guys -- after hearing CONCEIERTO
PARA BONGOS, I then recognized Latin elements in *their* material and was
wondering if they were influenced in any way by Prado...

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Sunshine Pop 99
Date: 30 Jul 1999 12:41:30 -0700 (PDT)


Moritiz
This Marina compilation, "Songs For MarshMallow Lovers" was great and started me off on
this whole modern soft pop chase I've been on.   I  was shocked to hear loveletter do
Barbarella.   I knew then modern pop was getting a little sunnier.  I think another
compilation, "Songs For the Jet Set" vol 1 contained almost the exact same songs plus a
couple more.

Thanks for the reminder and the loveletter connection I forgot about.   I got most of
my soft modern pop from going to the Marina site and seeing [e-mail]
as the US distributor,  but the Sunshine Pop and Sequel Sunshine Pop compilations came
from
http://www.othermusic.com

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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> Here you can check out his Mute-website. Surprisingly the discography misses two of
> his best works, the incredibly cute teenie pop album Serx Appeal and the loveletter
LP,
> which not only has We can fly, but a great version of Barbarella as well, which is
also to be> found on the Marina compilation Songs For Marshmallow Lovers. Remember me
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Subject: (exotica) Re: Perez Prado (and the Mysterians...?)y otros Lations groovy!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:43:51 -0400


jane says:  >What
>makes this one so special is it's a weird mixture of the typical
Prado-with
>VERY garage-y Farfisa organ and rock rhythms!  Weird!  One side has all
>these Latin-garage numbers, and the second is much like his longer exotica
>suite.



 The second half is, as you described, well, his exotic "bongo concert,"
from whence the album title comes; but that ? & The Mysterians thing
going on in those other tracks is the clincher. There are some tracks in
this "garage-y" vein on that "2 en Uno" disc, including the
aforementioned "Over the Rainbow," which just *rocks*.? & the Mysterians
are actually Hispanic guys -- after hearing CONCEIERTOPARA BONGOS, I then
recognized Latin elements in *their* material and was
wondering if they were influenced in any way by Prado...




back to jane:
>>>This brings to mind an obscure(well, not by 6ts Latin music standards)
artist, who was also on UA among other labels, Rafael.  Anyone here hip to
Rafael?  This guy looked a bit like Davey Jones and sings with a HUGE
voice...and did great Spanish language versions of songs like "Love is
Blue"...he even makes "Hava Negela"(I know I just spelled that wrong, I do
apologise to the Jewish on this list!) into a bouncy Latin
pop-rocker..and...I hear the gasp of Nat Kone coming on...some of his stuff
sounds like  A SPANISH SCOTT WALKER!  No, I am not delusional...but I
wonder if anybody will back me up on the groovy Rafael?
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Sunshine Pop 99
Date: 30 Jul 1999 16:01:32 -0400 (EDT)


Chuck writes:
>What I really am enjoying is the modern soft pop music that started in England in the
>early 1980s with bands like the Smiths

always entertained to hear a mention of my former obsession on this list.  I can see what you mean, although I think lots of their stuff is too rocky to qualify.  But the 'strangeways' album, and songs like 'the hand that rocks the cradle', 'please please please'...  - yes, it's interesting to think of them in this light.

please excuse my smiths indulgence this time.  I won't do it again.

regds, Jonny


PS I'm listening to Julie London singing 'If I should lose you'.  Did Piero Umiliani rip off this tune for 'sweden heaven or hell', or what!

PPS Burt live in Coney Island last night: - he was great, the music was great, but the 90's 'soulful' singers were not - they ruined it for me...

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Subject: (exotica) More on Burt at Coney Island
Date: 30 Jul 1999 16:36:08 -0400 (EDT)


Burt was playing in a Marquee in a park.  The crowd seemed to be mostly older people sat in deck chairs, which made a change.  I didn't have such a great view of the stage.  Burt played piano, but as far as I noticed, he didn't sing.  The orchestral backing was pretty good, but the singers were (IMHO) appalling.

My favorite Bacharach material is the solo orchestral stuff he recorded for A&M in the late 60s and early 70s.  The vocals on this stuff are sparse, with that cool detached sound you find on a lot of polydor stuff from the 70s.  So the vocals as they were didn't appeal to me - nasty and pseudo-soulful - rather like these Boyzone-type bands (my sister likes them!).

The material he played was pretty much his classic stuff, although he played things like 'walk on by', 'trains and boats and planes', 'one less bell to answer' etc in medley form, which was a bit odd.  The crowd seemed quite happy, and it was actually nice to see such a wide cross-section of people singing along and loving it.  I would have loved to hear stuff like 'pacific coast highway' and 'south american getaway', but I guess it wasn't to be.  I left before the end; I presume he did some of the elvis costello stuff later on.

I'm sure other people who went will have had different experiences, but this was mine...
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Subject: (exotica) Pop Romantique, French Pop Classics
Date: 30 Jul 1999 13:52:48 -0700 (PDT)


"Pop Romantique, French Pop Classics"  on Emperor Norton (EMN7011)  1999.

Modern French soft pop with liner notes written by our own Elisabeth Vincentelli.
This compilation has songs written by Serge Gainsbourg, Francoise Hardy, and others
performed by modern bands including  Sukia,   Apples In Stereo(written by
Scneider/mcduff in French!!),  Heavenly ( also on the Siesta Label I think)  John
Wesley Harding, Ivy,  Luna.

This compilation is a cool idea whose time has come.  Mix one part great French songs
with equal parts of interesting modern pop artists.    Well done and a good connection
between the soft pop past and present.

Easy listening in the Big Easy
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From: Brett Leveridge <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) More on Burt at Coney Island
Date: 30 Jul 1999 16:55:58 -0400 (EDT)



On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 [e-mail] wrote:
>
> Burt was playing in a Marquee in a park.  The crowd seemed to be
> mostly older people sat in deck chairs, which made a change. I
> didn't have such a great view of the stage. Burt played piano,
> but as far as I noticed, he didn't sing. The orchestral backing
> was pretty good, but the singers were (IMHO) appalling.


I had a distinctly different experience. I love Bacharach's pop stuff from
the '60s and early '70s, and that's mostly what he played. I'm a huge fan
of the 3-disc boxed set, THE LOOK OF LOVE, for example - in fact, I
attended last night's show with Alec Cumming, who served as associate
producer for THE LOOK OF LOVE and wrote the liner notes for it as well.
And he too thought it a terrific show.

We were fifth row, center, and I can attest that Burt looks great. He sang
two or three songs in his usual croak. The exception to that rule was
"Alfie," which he actually managed quite nicely. I was pleasantly
surprised - even relieved - that his singers sang the songs relatively
straight with no more than a touch of histrionic R&B singing; they stayed
pretty faithful to the original spirit of the material.

I'm not crazy about medleys, either, but really, what else can he do? He
couldn't begin to fit full renditions of all the songs people expect from
him into a 1.5 hour set; he's had far too many hits. I thought the medleys
were relatively satisfying.

He did only one of the songs he wrote with Elvis C. - I Still Have That
Other Girl.

The horns were live, the strings were canned, but all the musicians were
fine.

All in all, it was a lovely evening - a cool breeze, a clear sky, and
beautiful, smooth, elegant, sophisticated music. I can't imagine having
left early; I'd have stayed another two hours if Burt had kept playing.

And I rode the Cyclone when the show was over - a perfect night!


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From: "Ron Grandia" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Neeefty CD's
Date: 29 Jul 1999 13:35:23 -0700


Got two super-cool diskies recently:

First, Laurent Lombard, "Happy Land" (Kosinus 58) Very JJ =
Perrey-flavored production music with 99 tracks!  the first 33 are =
complete songs, and the rest are :06 to :12 second variations of each =
tune, So each song has two accompanying sub-tracks that will make KILLER =
bumpers for you radio-programmers out there.

The second, "Sounds for Little Ones" (on Dish recordings)was initially a =
disappointment it's a compilation of field-recorded kiddie-rides (the =
kind in front of every supermarket in the world) Ice-cream trucks and =
sounds from Children's Fairyland in Oakland, CA. It's pretty sloppily =
recorded, and I can do without the kiddy-rides, but the ice-cream truck =
recordings, including track #2 "And the Band Played on" ia tune that has =
haunted me from my youth. The Children's fairyland recordings are pretty =
strange, too. It sounds like one of those shitty little amusement parks =
that's nothing more than sick pine-trees, some fiberglass statues of =
dragons that would be more aptly suited for a miniature-golf course, and =
Zoo-Train with a toothless pedophile conductor. (Yes, one CAN hear all =
this in the recording, that's what's so great about it.) There are some =
neat moments, like when the whining and gurgling of the piped-in music =
is interrupted with "CLICK!  Adam, Please report to the =
Pumpkin!......(rattle) ......CLICK!

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From: "Indy Rutks" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica)Prez and Stay Awake  (Was New eXotica Releases Overview Update)
Date: 30 Jul 1999 16:11:15 -0500


Mimi wrote:

> Ben wrote about Hal Willner's mix ..the music of:
> >> Kurt Weill (can't find the record for the title)
> >
> >It's called "Lost in the Stars." Zorn, Waits, Reed, among others. But
> >doesn't St-ng sing "Mack the Knife" on it or something?
>
> AAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEE! I'd erased that bad memory -- completely
> obliterated it!
> Am pretty sure Waits growls September Song, and Stan Ridgeway (???Wall of
> Voodoo??? name right?) has a merry jog through Whiskey Bar.

I think Richard Butler (Psychedelic Furs) did "Whiskey Bar"... or maybe I'm
just crazy from the heat.

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From: Robbie Baldock <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica)Prez and Stay Awake  (Was New eXotica Releases Overview Update)
Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:39:04 +0100


Mimi Mayer wrote:

> Thanks, Michael! Do you know (or does anyone know), is there a
> CD reissue of the RCA-Victor lp "PREZ" PRADO (LSP1556)? I'm loco
> for this record but my copy got mauled before I scooped it naked
> outta the thrift bin.

Yes there is - I have a copy.  I think it's mid-price: my copy was
certainly very cheap.  It has about 5 bonus tracks.

If you have trouble getting one at such places as http://www.gemm.com/
let me know and I'll see if I can still get one here in Edinburgh.


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Date: 30 Jul 1999 18:53:43 -0400



> > Am pretty sure Waits growls September Song, and Stan Ridgeway (???Wall of
> > Voodoo??? name right?) has a merry jog through Whiskey Bar.
>
>I think Richard Butler (Psychedelic Furs) did "Whiskey Bar"... or maybe I'm
>just crazy from the heat.


 From the All Music Site, Stan (short for Stannard!) Ridgway and the Fowler
Brothers did "Cannon Song" and Whisky Bar (Alabama Song) was indeed done by
Richard Butler and Ralph Schukett.

Site does not state whether Indy is crazy from heat.

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From: King Kini <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: Hong Kong
Date: 30 Jul 1999 17:53:45 -0500


i like this record alot.  nothing special, but nice.

P.S. Lionel Newman is Randy Newman's uncle.

  - kk


>Anyone have any thought, opinos on;
>Music from "Hong Kong", Lionel Newman .
>
>Just bought it. Still getting to know it.
>




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From: George Hall <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #465
Date: 30 Jul 1999 17:33:34 -0700 (PDT)



> There's a complete Sun Ra CD on which he plays only music from Disney
> films.

  Tell me more!!

> >It's called "Lost in the Stars." Zorn, Waits, Reed, among others. But
> >doesn't St-ng sing "Mack the Knife" on it or something?
>
> AAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEE! I'd erased that bad memory -- completely obliterated it!
> Am pretty sure Waits growls September Song, and Stan Ridgeway (???Wall of
> Voodoo??? name right?) has a merry jog through Whiskey Bar.

  Nope, that's Lou on Sept Song...but weill we're on the subject, seek out
Ute Lemperer's Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar) (I think it's either EMI
Classics or Angel) for a truly perverse rendering ("show me za vay to ze
next lee-tel boy...")
  Furthermore, despite an extreme aversion to Sting, in all fairness I
thought his Mack the Knife was actually pretty good -hardly a travesty on
the order of...oh, say Bobby Darin's version (hey, nothing wrong with a
little travesty)
  & back on the Willner tip, my vote for his best goes to "Amarcord Nino
Rota," as far as I know, the grand-daddy of the tribute disc. All from the
Fellini films, performed by Carla Bley, Blondie, david Amram, etc all
extremely melodic, evocative & favoring interpretation over
deconstruction.
  back to lurkin'...
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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Hong Kong
Date: 30 Jul 1999 19:26:40 -0400


At 05:53 PM 7/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
>[e-mail]

P.S. Lionel Newman is Randy Newman's uncle.

...who is also related to Alfred Newman, composer of many great
soundtracks!  According to Carol Kaye, session bassist (that's her on the
Beach Boys' Good Vibrations), she remembers Lionel Newman for his strange
count-offs to the musicians:

"And one and two and watch that bit at the third bar that's in a different
meter..."


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From: "B. Yost" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re:  Burt Bacharach live
Date: 30 Jul 1999 19:44:51 -0700


I think it was Elisabeth that was mentioning a day or two ago going to
see Burt perform live somewhere in Brooklyn or Coney Island is something
like that.  If it's happened, I'm curious what it was like.  Please say
there were other vocalists!!  :)

I myself will be going to see him Saturday night on an Ohio River
floating casino boat of all places.  It's about an hour up-river from
where I live, near Louisville.  If that's not "lounge," what is?

I'm hoping to get to say hello to him.  The friends I'm going with have
had him as a house guest on a few occasions when he has been in town for
the Kentucky Derby, so they should have access to him personally.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) Josie and the Pussycats
Date: 30 Jul 1999 22:10:04 EDT


Josie has been reissued on a CD boot which shows up fairly regularly on Ebay.
 Worth owning as it includes all of the cereal box only singles.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (exotica) not dimitri?!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 22:40:13 EDT


In a message dated 7/30/99 11:08:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> I have a friend with a 45 minute tape of demos from cheap keyboards,  I'm
>  sure he'll do copies..............

That's great.  I may have to wait for the CD to be released, although this
has gotten my interest up.

>  ..., but as an ex raver and
>  techno-artiste I loved the original description,  especially the Olympic
>  class frotterism.

Thanks for tolerating my silly approach.

I'm personally doing everything I can to get frotterism recognized worldwide
as an Olympic sport.  Right now in the U.S. there are countless amateurs
practicing night and day, me among them.   It could be a summer or a winter
sport, in fact winter might be even more interesting.  I beg you all to
please support your local competitive frotter and maybe we can make our
Olympic dreams a reality.

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From: "Amanda Cavataio" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Holy Cow!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 20:01:35 PDT


So I posted my question about Dimitri From Paris on Tuesday.  It's now
Friday, and this is the first time I've checked the list since.  You crazy
kids!! I now feel like I'm truly part of the list, starting all this
controversy!

You know, I think I may just buy the cd, but I'll bargain shop.  I picked up
so many differing opinions that my curiosity is definitely peaked. I suppose
I can lay Dimitri to rest in Exotica List land for now.

I will definitely hold another forum when my next music inquiry comes up! :)
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Subject: Re: (exotica) Holy Cow!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 23:24:45 EDT


<< You know, I think I may just buy the cd, but I'll bargain shop.  >>

Want mine?  I've had it at least a couple of years now, if that is a clue as
to which release it is. Disc and insert like new, six bucks includes postage
(unless shipped internationally).

Also have another Yellow release I'm cuttin' loose, "La Yellow 357", which
also features Dimitri along with The Mighty Bop, Fresh Lab, DJ Cam.

Same condition and price.

if Amanda passes, whoever wants it / them lemme know.

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From: "Elisabeth Vincentelli" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sunshine Pop 99
Date: 30 Jul 1999 23:43:48 -0500


I had the privilege of interviewing Simon Fisher Turner, aka The King of
Luxembourg, for a piece on him for The Village Voice a couple of years ago.
He's incredibly nice and very funny, and his stories about being a child TV
star in the early 70s are amazing. I think he was Adam Ant's chauffeur for a
short while. He's done soundtracks for Derek Jarman movies and more recently
for Croupier, the latest by Mike Hodges (of Get Carter's fame!). He also
plays with the Hangovers, the new band from Gina Birch of the Raincoats.
Obviously the man never sleeps.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) not dimitri?!
Date: 30 Jul 1999 23:56:08 EDT


In a message dated 7/30/99 7:42:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< especially the Olympic
 >  class frotterism.
  >>




Sheez,  do you guys have your dictionarys out?????   So now I know what it is
called!

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Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: Hong Kong
Date: 31 Jul 1999 00:07:48 EDT


In a message dated 7/30/99 4:25:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[e-mail] writes:

<< who is also related to Alfred Newman, composer of many great
 soundtracks >>

and " N E W M A N!!!!!" on Seinfleld???????"

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From: "Benito Vergara" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (exotica)Prez and Stay Awake  (Was New eXotica Releases Overview Update)
Date: 30 Jul 1999 22:19:25 -0700


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Mimi Mayer
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 11:49 AM
> But
> >doesn't St-ng sing "Mack the Knife" on it or something?
>
> AAAAIIIIIIIIEEEEE! I'd erased that bad memory -- completely
> obliterated it!

Didn't mean to spoil your weekend, sorry. =) For the record, I really did
like him when he was still a snotty young punk in probably the best
power-pop trio ever. I think that oh-so-clever reference to "Lolita" did him
in, though...

Later,
Ben

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From:    Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 31 Jul 1999 01:49:00 -0400


At 05:18 PM 7/30/99 +0200, Moritz R wrote:

>. To me Exotica was more a holy thing. And
>that's why I have to protect Martin Denny here, because especially Martin
>Denny, and especially his first 10 albums,  is not cheesy at all. Call me a
>romantic, but many of his early titles are sheer beauty and wild power. I can
>see nothing cheep or "made up" or false in it.

If exotica is holy to you, perhaps we shouldn't even try to discuss this
topic.  And I'm a bit unclear what you mean by "made up".  But I'm going to
assume that music that ISN'T made up would be music created as a true
reflection of a musician's culture, background, surroundings and
influences.  By that definition Mr.Denny's music and most exotica would be
inherently made up.
Another word for that might be "contrived".
In general these musicians were responding to a perceived commercial demand
for music with an exotic, foreign, mysterious and quasi-Hawaiian feel.
They weren't putting bird calls in their music in order to reflect the
sound of the wild birds they heard every night growing up in Brooklyn or
wherever they were from.
That's what I would call contrived.
But for me, contrived and cheap are not synonymous.
You can contrive with inspiration and with ingenuity and with passion or
you can contrive cheaply.
To me exotica is a contrivance but in many cases, not a cheap one.
And as far as the whole "lounge" question goes, I don't own a fez or a tiki
mug and though I own a suit from that period, I wear it to funerals not bars.
Having said that, a lot of my appreciation for this kind of music is
connected to a "bachelor pad/lounge" ideal which was there in the fringe of
my consciousness when I grew up   When I listen to that kind of music -
which is almost exclusively what I listen to lately - I always feel some
kind of connection to that imagery, to that aesthetic.  It's not that I
imagine I'm in a lounge somewhere in the late fifties but somehow the idea
of a place like that is always lurking in my listening process.
Some people choose to express that connection externally, through clothing
or furniture.  I don't generally express myself that way but I don't assume
that the poeple who do are all that different than me in their appreciation
of the music
It's true that some people are more into the fashion than the music but
even those people are still responding to the music.

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Subject: (exotica) Burt and Rod
Date: 31 Jul 1999 02:10:34 -0400


Right now I'm listening to a lovely double LP in which the piano trio of
Ellis Larkins plays the music of Burt Bacharach and... Rod McKuen.
Alternates from one to the other.  I avoid piano trios and I might have
avoided this one if I'd known.  But it was sealed.
Anyway, I'm glad I didn't avoid it.  It's on Stanyan Records, Rod's label
and is also produced by Rod.
I have records with exclusively Bacharach covers.  Then there are ones that
alternate between the Beatles and Bacharach.  And then there's that one -
Ted Heath? - which is Bacharach, the Beatles and Bach.
Just thought someone would want to know that Rod got in on the act.  With
nice results actually.

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From: Moritz R <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Bring on the "Lounge", Don't Bother They're Here
Date: 31 Jul 1999 12:13:18 +0200


Nat Kone wrote:

> If exotica is holy to you, perhaps we shouldn't even try to discuss this topic.

I meant holy, not dogmatic or fundamentalist.

> And I'm a bit unclear what you mean by "made up".

Perhaps I misunderstand "cheesy". I can't find it in my dictionary. I think it
means something like cheap, fake or so, no? Kitsch....

> But I'm going to assume that music that ISN'T made up would be music created as
> a true reflection of a musician's culture, background, surroundings and
> influences.  By that definition Mr.Denny's music and most exotica would be
> inherently made up.

You think so? I don't. It's jazz, a music that Denny played with the same right
as any other white American at that time and it has exotic "Hawaiian" influences,
according to the place where he chose to live. Of course his music marks a step
in the history of what would later be called "world music". Since there were
records, musicians would be influenced by music from all over the world. But the
word "cheesy" tells me a different story: Like performing a cheap copy of a music
that was entirely invented by others, to cut off a piece of the commercial cake.
And you can't say that of Martin Denny. He baked the cake.

>  Another word for that might be "contrived".

That hits it much better. Sounds more like inventive than cheesy... I can easily
agree on that term; if it really means what my dictionary tells me...

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From: Jill Mingo <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Sunshine Pop 99
Date: 31 Jul 1999 15:32:33 +0100 (BST)


At 11:27 30/07/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>
>On el records, compiled by Mike Alway comes the new compilation "Sunshine
Pop 99"

What else is on this?

>The highlight is the "We Can Fly" remake by loveletter.

This is also on the Siesta "Songs for the Jet SetVol. 2" And it IS great.

Though the Cowsills original is really a classic.

Jill "mingo-go"



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From: Brian Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Re: exotica-digest V2 #465
Date: 30 Jul 1999 20:00:48 -0400



>   Furthermore, despite an extreme aversion to Sting, in all fairness I
>thought his Mack the Knife was actually pretty good -hardly a travesty on
>the order of...oh, say Bobby Darin's version (hey, nothing wrong with a
>little travesty)

Whenever folks got upset with the morality of popular music, I usually
pointed out this song.  Darin's version is based on a previous Louis
Armstrong (and Ella Fitzgerald?) version, so I have read.  In both
versions, Lotte Lenya's name ends up in the list of victims, which is, of
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From: Steve Taaffe <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Radio Free Kansas upgrades to G2
Date: 30 Jul 1999 19:33:01 -0500


Well my friends we made the upgrade to G2 tonight. Our music format
consists of Exotica, Progressive Rock, Jazz, Ambient, Christian and much
more.

Please make a note of our new url:

http://g2server.radiotalk.com:8080/ramgen/encoder/rfks.rm

15 new "on demand" shows are now online.

Happy listening.

Steve
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From: Nat Kone <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Rumors about the death of my website are greatly
Date: 31 Jul 1999 01:48:58 -0400


At 10:38 AM 7/30/99 -0400, [e-mail] wrote:
>>>>Brad and BasciHip make me yearn for the "old days" of this list, when it
>was filled with the moooovers and shakers of both the music industry and
>also of just record collecting.
> This list has really become
>sorta The Jerry Springer Show Mit Birdcalls lately.

How do you get to be a mover or a shaker in record collecting?  The two
concepts almost seem mutually exclusive.  "Oh, he's a very important record
collector".  Yeah I guess there are the dealers and the the
compilation/researcher types.  But in my experience those types usually
feel like they're "above" all the human concerns of a normal record
accumulator.
I guess it's kind of cool to have the odd semi-famous musician or
researcher on the list.  I like owning a couple of CD's by guys - and
potentially gals - who I sort of "know" from the list.  And it's nice to
have a few people who actually know more than you can pick up from looking
at the back of a couple of records.
But it's also nice to have enthusiasm and the joy of discovery, the kind of
thing that rarely come from "important" people of any kind.
Having interviewed well over a hundred record collectors for my last
project, I actually find the Jerry Springer image fairly appropriate.
Except most of us wouldn't break a chair over a guy's head for his opinion
about Spanky McFarlane.  Then again, if he was sleeping with my records...

Nat



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Subject: (exotica) Record Cover books
Date: 31 Jul 1999 12:49:11 -0400


> Unfortunately, Ms. McKnight-Trontz didn't check her links before
> publication and now people who find the URL in "Exoticaquarium" think the
> site is dead.

Yesterday I was at Boders bookstore and saw the Exoticaquarium book.  Looking
at the cover, it looked like a great book - great cover, etc.  Paging through
it though I did get the feeling that much of it was a rehash of things I
already knew - which is self-explanatory if much of the text was pulled from
your and other web-sites. (Although it does have an introduction by Lenny
Dee).  I chose not to purchase the book, partly because it seemed a bit
overpriced at $25, and partly because the book seemed to be geared as an
introduction to the exotica scene.  If I was not already familiar with the
entire genre, or didn't already own more than half of the LPs, I would most
probably snap it up.

I also saw Eric Kohner's book "In the Groove: Vintage Record Graphics, 1940-60.
I was more impressed with this book, perhaps because the graphics displayed are
from the era 10-15 years before most of my own collection.  The price is much
better $19 and the intro is by Tony Bennett.  One thing I liked more about
'Into the Groove' was that it seemed to be geared more toward graphic designers
than the exotica scenesters - which somehow gave it much more credibility.

I didn't buy this book either though, because I found the overall design of the
book somewhat jarring.  Many of the covers from that era are based on bright,
primary colors, in a somewhat abstract cut-out fashion (think of Jim Flora's
work)  There wasn't enough white space seperating the various covers .... I
found myself trying to look at one cover and being distracted by the colors
from the neighbors, and result is likely to be (for me) a big headache.

 The left hand pages feature one entire record cover which extended all the way
to the page margins, and I would have prefered to see a small white border -
for some reason without that border I feel like the whole thing is slightly
cropped and I'm missing something.

I do expect though to purchase 'In the Groove' sometime soon though - the love
of graphic design and the era is readily apparant and the book does fill a void
in my collection.

My 3 favorite books featuring record covers that overlap the exotica scene are
below.  All of them have a high percentage of records that I do not own, which
means I page through them often and dream.

1.  'The Album Cover Art of Soundtracks' by Jastfelder/Kassel .  Like "In the
Groove", this also features one full cover (on the right hand pages), but this
format is better because the actual size of the pages are close to being full
album size.

2.  Album Covers From the Vinyl Junkyard ... I like the way the covers are
grouped in themes, plus there is plenty of white space

3.  '1000 Record Covers' by Michael Ochs.  It's thick (750 + pages) and
seperated into decades.  Of course, the first 350 pages from the 50's and the
60's are much better than the second 350 pages (70-s - 90's)

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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Re: "PREZ" PRADO (LSP1556)
Date: 31 Jul 1999 16:04:22 +0200


Mimi Mayer wrote:

>is there a CD reissue of the RCA-Victor lp "PREZ" PRADO (LSP1556)?

    i don't have the CD, but it does have the same title,
    so i assume it is a reisue:
    CD, RCA Living Stereo 26052 2, Germany, 1995

        Johan


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From: Johan Dada Vis <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Lydia Kavina: Music From The Ether
Date: 31 Jul 1999 16:39:56 +0200


You have to like contemporary classical music to appreciate this CD.
Especially the noisy, experimental compositions by Lydia Kavina are
extremely difficult to digest. I couldn't listen to either of them for more
than 10 seconds...

Lydia Kavina: Music From The Ether. Original Works for Theremin
CD, Mode Records 76, USA, 1999

        Johan


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Subject: Re: (exotica) New eXotica Releases Overview Update
Date: 31 Jul 1999 15:56:29 +0200


thanx, folks, for the replies on my latest list. i've added all useful
info, and also deleted a couple of items. more often than not, i just add
things that look interesting by their title, without knowing anything about
them!

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From: "Amanda Cavataio" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) Holy Cow!
Date: 31 Jul 1999 10:26:24 PDT


I'll take 'em both, unless I'm too late! I'll email you to get the info.
Thanks!

You can pass that pipe on this way . . .

Amanda

On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:24:45 EDT, [e-mail] wrote:

> << You know, I think I may just buy the cd, but I'll bargain shop.  >>
>
> Want mine?  I've had it at least a couple of years now, if that is a clue
as
> to which release it is. Disc and insert like new, six bucks includes
postage
> (unless shipped internationally).
>
> Also have another Yellow release I'm cuttin' loose, "La Yellow 357", which

> also features Dimitri along with The Mighty Bop, Fresh Lab, DJ Cam.
>
> Same condition and price.
>
> if Amanda passes, whoever wants it / them lemme know.
>
> Hey!  gimme a hit off that peace pipe, would ya, Jill ?
>
>
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Subject: (exotica) what is cheese, again
Date: 31 Jul 1999 14:52:14 -0400


At 12:13 PM 7/31/99 +0200, Moritz R wrote:

>Perhaps I misunderstand "cheesy". I can't find it in my dictionary. I
think it
>means something like cheap, fake or so, no? Kitsch....

To be honest, I have no idea what "cheesy" really means or at least what
the original meaning was.  It's used in many different ways and one man's
cheese is another man's cake.
I'm pretty sure that I use the term in a variety of seemingly unrelated
ways.  We already had a "what is cheesy" debate on this list in my time
here but maybe it's time for another installment.
I don't think I mean "kitsch" when I say "cheesey" but I sometimes mean
fake or cheap.  And sometimes I mean "over the top".  And sometimes I think
I mean "insincere".
I think I even use the word when I mean "too sugarey".
But sometimes it's so cheesy I love it.
And sometimes I love it in spite of how cheesy it is.
Jim Nabors records are cheesy but I'm starting to like them.
I find a lot of Barry White and even Isaac Hayes cheesy - in the
"over-the-top" sense - but I've always loved them.
A LOT of psychedelia is cheesy - insincere, sugary, over-the-top - but the
cheesier the better for me.  Like exotica, they were trying to assign a
sound to a feeling.  They were trying to make music that sounded like an
acid trip and so they came up with a few contrived sounds and beat the hell
out of them until you had no choice but to accept those sounds as
inherently psychedelic.
That's a lot like exotica, I think.
Those fake hippy rebellion tunes on biker film soundtracks are cheesy but I
can't get enough of them.
A lot of those big choir records are cheesy.  Have you ever heard the Ray
Conniff Singers version of Deodato's version of the theme to 2001?  That's
cheese you can wrap around yourself like a blanket and I wanted the record
as soon as I heard it.
All "art" is a contrivance of some kind but some is produced more clumsily
and with more stuff hanging out.
When you use the term "jazz" with Martin Denny, you're using the term a lot
more loosely than I do.  I'd say he had "pretensions" to jazz as well as
pretensions to a number of other things, including some concept of what was
"exotic".
It was a supreme contrivance.
Those terms are inherently perjorative.
But in this case and many others, this is contrived, pretentious, cheesy
music that I love.

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: (exotica) The Three Suns Sound
Date: 31 Jul 1999 15:27:22 +0000


Would you say that The Three Suns sound originated with that group or were
there others who did the same sort of organ, guitar, accordian trio music?
My thought is that The Three Suns did, indeed, originate this for popular
consumption.

With that in mind, it seems, most of this kind of trio music is indebted
to the Three Suns.  In fact, I have noticed the same repertoire is duplicated
from what the Three Suns did.  So if you said these other groups were clones
of the Three Suns (or, to be less kind, ripped off the Three Suns) you might
not be too far off.

Just who would you classify as part of The Three Suns sound?

Here are some I have found:

Living Trio. (thanks Brad!) Don't know how many RCA Camden albums there are
with this moniker.  Wish I knew who the performers are.  I think I heard
the organist was Dick Hyman.  Maybe RCA doesn't list the performers because
it was
a pick-up group from whomever was available.  Still, I WANT TO KNOW!
RCA Camden  CAS 2124  Heart of My Heart   Living Trio  1967

The Velvet Sounds.  I have two albums by this anonymous group.
International Award Series  AK-181  Twilight Dance Time  The Velvet Sounds
International Award Series  AK-189  Moonlight Dance Time  The Velvet Sounds

The Organ Happenings.  Power Records did a bunch of albums with different
group names.  This one was closest to the Three Suns Sound and it may be
the only one.
Power  DS 413 (Apple Honey Series)  Organ Serenade  The Organ Happenings


I also recall someone on ebay trying to get people interested in The Three
Suns
interested in a record by a group with the same sound.

Any other records by any of these groups?  Any other groups with The Three
Suns sound?

Byron



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From: "Darrell Brogdon" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (exotica) Retro Cocktail Hour
Date: 31 Jul 1999 18:52:59 -0500


We went a little mambo happy on this week's Retro Cocktail Hour
webcast.  You'll hear mambos by Yma Sumac, Pete Rugolo and
Tito Puente.

Also on the menu, "Blues for Brando" from the original motorcycle
movie - "The Wild One" and cool crime jazz from "Burke's Law"
and "Peter Gunn" (we'll contrast Mancini's "Session at Pete's Pad"
with the VOCAL version sung by Lola Albright, entitled "Straight to
Baby").

You'll find swinging Hawaiiana from Martin Denny and Don Ho (ever
heard his medley of "Hawaii Five-O" and "Quiet Village"?);  Shorty
Rogers meets Tarzan; passionate percussion by Skip Martin and
Dick Schory; plus the 13 Fingers of Sir Julian!

To hear The Retro Cocktail Hour on the Web, just go to:

http://kanu.ukans.edu/retro.html

Requires a minimum 28.8 Internet connection and RealPlayer.
Available in both RealAudio 5.0 and G2 flavors.  If you tune us in,
we'd love to hear from you.

Next week - BONGO FEVER!

Thanks for the space.


Darrell Brogdon
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KANU FM 91.5
Broadcasting Hall
The University of Kansas
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From: recliner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (exotica) The Three Suns Sound
Date: 31 Jul 1999 20:18:16 -0500


[e-mail] wrote:

> Would you say that The Three Suns sound originated with that group or were
> there others who did the same sort of organ, guitar, accordian trio music?
> My thought is that The Three Suns did, indeed, originate this for popular
> consumption.

It would seem that the Three Suns were the first to record in this combo. I
would conjecture that , with these three instruments being incredibly popular
ones for folks to play at home, that there may have been similar trios as part
of church groups, etc.

>
> Any other records by any of these groups?  Any other groups with The Three
> Suns sound?
>

The Triads, are an exemplary 3S styled group.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) what is cheese, again
Date: 31 Jul 1999 21:08:58 -0500


Nat Kone wrote:

> At 12:13 PM 7/31/99 +0200, Moritz R wrote:
>
> >Perhaps I misunderstand "cheesy". I can't find it in my dictionary. I
> think it
> >means something like cheap, fake or so, no? Kitsch....
>
> To be honest, I have no idea what "cheesy" really means or at least what
> the original meaning was.  It's used in many different ways and one man's
> cheese is another man's cake.
> I'm pretty sure that I use the term in a variety of seemingly unrelated
> ways.  We already had a "what is cheesy" debate on this list in my time
> here but maybe it's time for another installment.
> I don't think I mean "kitsch" when I say "cheesey" but I sometimes mean
> fake or cheap.  And sometimes I mean "over the top".  And sometimes I think
> I mean "insincere".
> I think I even use the word when I mean "too sugarey".
> But sometimes it's so cheesy I love it.
> And sometimes I love it in spite of how cheesy it is.
> Jim Nabors records are cheesy but I'm starting to like them.
> I find a lot of Barry White and even Isaac Hayes cheesy - in the
> "over-the-top" sense - but I've always loved them.
> A LOT of psychedelia is cheesy - insincere, sugary, over-the-top - but the
> cheesier the better for me.  Like exotica, they were trying to assign a
> sound to a feeling.  They were trying to make music that sounded like an
> acid trip and so they came up with a few contrived sounds and beat the hell
> out of them until you had no choice but to accept those sounds as
> inherently psychedelic.
> That's a lot like exotica, I think.
> Those fake hippy rebellion tunes on biker film soundtracks are cheesy but I
> can't get enough of them.
> A lot of those big choir records are cheesy.  Have you ever heard the Ray
> Conniff Singers version of Deodato's version of the theme to 2001?  That's
> cheese you can wrap around yourself like a blanket and I wanted the record
> as soon as I heard it.
> All "art" is a contrivance of some kind but some is produced more clumsily
> and with more stuff hanging out.
> When you use the term "jazz" with Martin Denny, you're using the term a lot
> more loosely than I do.  I'd say he had "pretensions" to jazz as well as
> pretensions to a number of other things, including some concept of what was
> "exotic".
> It was a supreme contrivance.
> Those terms are inherently perjorative.
> But in this case and many others, this is contrived, pretentious, cheesy
> music that I love.

I've been having this debate off and on since the early days of the "so bad
it's good" mentality.
Try to see the logic of these next two sentences:
I enjoy many many "exotica" and "lounge" recordings.
I don't like anything that I consider cheesy.

The key is that things I like I don't consider as cheesy, kitsch, camp, etc. .
If I like it it's damned good and it would hardly matter if the consensus
opinion told me otherwise. I would challenge others to take this point of
view. Do you enjoy something *because* it is cheesy? Or do you enjoy a
generally considered cheesy recording  for some very special reason that has
nothing to do with its "cheese factor"?
Ok, for the sake of argument I'll grant that either reason might apply in
individual cases.
What I'm trying to get at is the image you convey to others when you call your
like "cheesy" or "bad".
Being a public spokesperson for this sort of music (via my  radio program) I
try to convey a positive image of this music that I love. Just a few weeks ago
I announced " You are listening to My Vinyl Recliner, where you won't hear
anything cheesy or kitsch. Here the music is just good clean fun." I think of
many of the recording artist that we revere as artists who are misunderstood
or under appreciated by the general public and it doesn't help when we use the
same derogatory terms they use to dismiss this stuff.
Nat's comments are helpful in that "cheesy" as a very useful descriptive. It
is a convenient to use "cheesy" in certain situations that would otherwise
cause more confusion than its worth.

I could, at this point., dig my hole deeper but I think I'll just throw this
out there to the recent "feeding frenzy" abounding on this list.

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Subject: (exotica) SIDESHOW A GO-GO
Date: 31 Jul 1999 22:17:14 EDT


Each & EVERY Friday night at the famous CW Saloon
is presented a sight denied past generations
Sideshow & circus freaks abound:

Freaks no longer abound as the regular Friday night show has been cancelled
due to lack of financial support from the management

Otto can still be found DJing the first Thursday of each month at the Li Lo
Tiki bar at Connecticut & 18th on Potrero Hill
That's this Thursday!

and the last Tuesday of the month at The Beauty Bar
Mission & 19th
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Subject: (exotica) LP turntable in recent ad
Date: 01 Aug 1999 00:11:32 -0400


For some reason, I purchased the August 1999 issue of 'Atlantic Monthly'
(cover article: A Politics for Generation X), and was surprised by the
advertising on the inside back cover.  The fact that it was a cigarette
ad (for Carlton cigarettes) wasn't the surprising part.  What was
unusual in this CD age was the ad featured a woman holding a 12 inch LP
in her hand, sitting in front of an old 70's style phonograph turntable
that had one LP playing and two more stacked up to be dropped later.

The ad wasn't trying to be cute or funny or kitschy...it was just a
straightforward ad that I might normally have easily skipped without
paying much thought to it.  It makes me wonder if the big companies will
start using more LP themed ads to reach an older demographic.

By the way, the surgeon warning says that "Smoking causes Lung Cancer,
Heart Disease, Emphysema, and May Complicate Pregnacy"   Fortunately
there are no warnings concerning the ill effects of listening to or
collecting LPs.

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Subject: Re: (exotica) The Three Suns Sound
Date: 01 Aug 1999 01:10:07 -0400


At 03:27 PM 7/31/99 +0000, [e-mail] wrote:

>Just who would you classify as part of The Three Suns sound?
>
>Here are some I have found:
>
>Living Trio. (thanks Brad!) Don't know how many RCA Camden albums there are
>with this moniker.  Wish I knew who the performers are.  I think I heard
>the organist was Dick Hyman.  Maybe RCA doesn't list the performers because
>it was
>a pick-up group from whomever was available.  Still, I WANT TO KNOW!
>RCA Camden  CAS 2124  Heart of My Heart   Living Trio  1967

Yeah I heard Dick Hyman too.  On this list.  There's no doubt they were
trying to mimic the Three Suns here.  First of all, they call them a trio,
which they're not.  It could only be their way to allude to the idea of
"three".
Second of all, the organ/accordion combination is pretty rare in my
experience and whenever I hear it, I assume it's a Three Suns rip/tribute.
I have a different record.  "The Ballad of Easy Rider and other hits" in
which they also cover "Turn Turn Turn" and "Leaving on a Jet Plane".  So
there's at least two of them.
I can't think of another band with that sound unless you count every polka
band.

Nat





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