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dr-digest           Thursday, July 20 2000           Volume 01 : Number 188



Re: (dr) tubeless tire mounting
Re: (dr) "Slime" in tubes?
(dr) exhaust popping
(dr) Moving on....
(dr) DR350SEX 4 SALE!!!
(dr) Here we are again...
(dr) Proof reader wanted...

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:55:01 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Rainer Knape)
Subject: Re: (dr) tubeless tire mounting

Jim,

if you want to use tubeless tires with a DR jou MUST use tubes. The only
(kind of  dual sport) bike I know that does not need tubes is the BMW
GS. All other rims let the air pass along the spokes.
The procedure to mount tubeless tires is the same as with normal tires,
except that they may sit better and are more difficult to mount. I have
done it twice on the GS of a friend and finally it worked. Buy a set us
those special ttols (don't know the english word) and don't use
screwdrivers.
I have no idea why they don't inflate, sorry that I cannot help you
more.

Rainer

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Jim schrieb:

>  I picked up a pair of road specific Metzeler's recently and they're
> tubeless tires. Being the idiot I was, I used a screwdriver to remove
> the old tire and believe I may have puntured the tube. Also being
> idiotwise, I decided using tubes with tubeless tires would be a smart
> move. So after spending a few hours mounting the new tires and the old
> tubes, again using the screwdrivers, I find that the tires (front and
> rear) refuse to inflate. The beads are seated well (used a tie-down
> around the circumference of the tire) so the tubes are suspect. What's
> the proper way of mounting these tubeless tires? Thank for any
> help. -Jim


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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:10:36 -0700
From: Mike Nielson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) "Slime" in tubes?

Hi Bob,

I've used Slime in my dirt bikes for the past couple of years and
have not had a trailside flat tire since doing so.  Quite frankly,
I've had such good success with it that I would not even consider
going off into the boonies for an extended ride on a bike that does
not have Slime in the tires.  I was compelled to start using it when
it seemed that almost every time I went out for a couple of days of
riding I would have at least one flat tire.  While I've always carried
spare tube, etc., to do trailside flat repair, it's a real bummer
to spend so much time fixing flats instead of riding!  One point to
note is that Slime does make the tubes a bit messy to deal with when
you're doing tire changes.  And I think it may even slightly weaken the
tube over an extended period of time because I've seen that some of my
older Slimed tubes can feel a bit "mushy".  For that reason, I tend to
always replace my tube whenever I replace the tire (usually once per
year, sometimes more often) and of course I re-Slime at the same time.

As for the effect on tire balance, I think if anything it improves
the balance.  The fluid will form itself to the outer perimeter of
the inside of the tube as the tire spins, and this will tend to level
out any small out-of-roundness.

Happy trails,

- - Mike


On Mon, Jun 26, 2000 at 09:13:31PM -0500, Bob wrote:
> Has anyone used "Slime" in there tubes? Does it work? How will it affect tire balance?
>
> Thanks
> Bob in MN

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Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 08:35:40 +1200
From: "Bruce Marshall" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) exhaust popping

The first thing to check in eliminating the overun-pop is that no air is
being sucked into the line at joints, so use a new gasket at the head & seal
all the joints with hi-temp rtv or cement. This is a natural prerequisite on
ANY bike/system before getting further into the prob. My dr650 had a lump of
mig wire accross the flange face on the header pipe, so that would have been
'leak #1' right at the start.

Having eliminated that possibility as a matter of course, next is jetting.
Most obvious is to go up one or two sizes in the primary jet then reset the
airscrew.

My local Dynajet shop suggests taking it one step further in refinement,
particularly if I want to buy some bench time - he suggests that the popping
can be solved plus other gains, by - needle up a notch to richen the
midrange (plus he says this may richen the idle slightly enough to stop the
popping, even tho needle supposedly doesnt effect idle . . ), a size smaller
main to compensate for the richer needle flow, then a final fiddle with the
airscrew.

Will advise the list if/when I go down that route.

IMeanwhile, it would be helpfull to us all if we could assemble a table of
jet sizes which are known to have solved the pop-prob, & also work to
improve performance with various pipes.

Cheers

Bruce Marshalls'  Awakino River Ride
   ph 06)7588856   fax [phone]
     email [e-mail]
 http://www.yamaha.co.nz/millennium


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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:43:56 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Moving on....

The list transfer hasn't gone as well as I'd hoped (I haven't heard from
customer service at egroups) ...I managed to sign-up 2/3 of the listers
automatically...the remainder I sent invations to...so, if you have received
an invitation please sign yourself up following the link. For those who
haven't received an invitation and who are not receiving messages from
egroups it is time to take action in your own hands and head over.
http://www.egroups.com/group/DSN_DR  go that url and signup...

We are done here at xmission and this is the signal to start posting at:

[e-mail]

Thanks, and see you on the other side,

Ron and Arne I'm heading out of town for a few days...good you keep your
ears on here and herd 'em on over for me?

Thanks,

Kurt Simpson
List Admin...




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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:32:42 EDT
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Subject: (dr) DR350SEX 4 SALE!!!

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Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:32:20 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Here we are again...

ahhh...kind of quite again...anyone have a poem or song that they would like
to sing? Keep an eye open here boys...I'm gone until Tuesday....

Thanks, love and kisses,

Kurt


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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:41:52 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Proof reader wanted...

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Thanks,

Kurt

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