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dr-digest            Tuesday, June 20 2000            Volume 01 : Number 179



RE: (dr) Buying Tires
Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps
(dr) Fork Oil
Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps
Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps
Re: (dr) Fork Oil
RE: (dr) Fork Oil
Re: (dr) Buying Tires

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:31:18 PDT
From: "Garth Skelton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Buying Tires

Thanks for all the advice.
I bought tires from MAW (Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse).  Their selection
was unparalled and their prices really good.  I ordered a set of the Cheng
Shin C858 to try out and they ran me $36 and $28 for front and rear.  They
are DOT approved too!
I also ordered another MT 21 for the rear ($52).  This is going to be my
"special ocassions" tire.  I have one now and it's great, but ride it on the
street and watch the rubber wear as you ride!
Their web site is aweful and tough to navigate around, but their customer
service is excellent.  You can access them through Arrowheadmotorsports.com,
go to Favorite Links, and then to Motorcycles A to Z, (I think).  Their
number is 1-800-241-2222.
If you are looking to buy anything I would recommend checking prices with
them first.  I don't know if everything is inexpensive or not.
I wish you guys would have told me about this sooner. I have been spending
$80-$90 a tire for the last two years!
Thanks again,
Garth
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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:46:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: john miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps

- --- Bob <[e-mail]> wrote:
> My 96DR350SE will run fine on a smooth trail but
> when I am in 1st or 2nd gear and going through bumps
> it will bog and stall and won't idle. My current set
> up is PJ40,JXneedle 3rd clip down,JX spring,MJ135,
> K&N filter, top cut off air box.
>  Would a carb off a DR (dirt only) version work on
> the bike with out bogging?
> Thanks
> Bob in MN
>
 Bob sounds to me like you need to do the
"t-vent"mod.On the right side of the carb is a vent
hose that should go straight up into the frame under
the seat.Gas can not get out of this tube.Put a t in
the hose where it comes of the carb and run one line
back up to it's origanil location and the other down
to a spot where gas can run off.This will eliminate
your bogging problem over the bumps.This is a symptom
that all SE models have you are far from alone.  John
in NY


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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:34:41 -0500
From: "Jan Bradley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Fork Oil

Does anyone know how much fork oil the '98 DR650SE takes? I am not just
going to pour in the amount, I am going to do the measure from the top
trick, But I just need to know if I have enough fork oil on hand or if I
need to go get more. I don't want to take it apart without having all
the stuff to put it back. My springs (front and rear) came today from
White Bros. and I can't wait to put them in... Thanks..

JB
'98 DR650SE
'86 R80

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:20:08 -0500
From: "Bob" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps

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That is kind of what I thought was wrong. And when I ran it faster =
(1/4-1/2 trottle) it ran better. I have the suzuki 37.5 PJ on order. =
Other poster's suggested putting a "T" in the carb vent line. My carb =
only has one line coming off the carb and it goes to the fuel petcock. =
Unless the hose is totally missing.
Thanks
Bob in MN
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jesse Kientz www.kientech.com <[e-mail]>
    To: Bob <[e-mail]>
    Date: Monday, June 19, 2000 9:48 AM
    Subject: RE: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps
   =20
   =20
    Hi Bob,  This is a typical problem with the CV carb that work fine =
on relatively smooth surfaces but give problems when hitting moguls and =
such the reason for this is that the slide is only held open by vacuum =
and when you hit a jump or mogul gravity takes over and the slide =
momentarily will slam down closing off the throttle. the float mechanism =
also gets knocked around and lets too much fuel into the bowl and causes =
a rich condition for a few minutes. This is further enhanced by the =
wrong pilot  jet in your case it should be an OEM Mikuni 37.5 pilot. As =
for your second question I stock a complete DR350 dirtmodel carb kit =
that will fit right into your bike for $330.00 this includes an aluminum =
spacer to clear the starter, the dirt model rubber manifold ,  and a =
single cable throttle assembly and cable as well as the new carb Jetted =
to your bike as equipped. You can view it on my website the address is =
below my name.  If you feel real brave you could also get my Vortex =
airbox that would complete your intake package for another $279.00. =
anyway I  will be most happy to help you with the tuning of your present =
condition whatever your decision just let me know.
   =20
    Regards,
    Jesse Kientz
    http://www.kientech.com/=20

   =20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: [e-mail] =
[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Bob
    Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 6:34 PM
    To: dr list
    Subject: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps
   =20
   =20
    My 96DR350SE will run fine on a smooth trail but when I am in 1st or =
2nd gear and going through bumps it will bog and stall and won't idle. =
My current set up is PJ40,JXneedle 3rd clip down,JX spring,MJ135, K&N =
filter, top cut off air box.
     Would a carb off a DR (dirt only) version work on the bike with out =
bogging?
    Thanks
    Bob in MN

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and when=20
    you hit a jump or mogul gravity takes over and the slide momentarily =
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:03:14 -0400
From: "Gary Douglas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) 96DR350SE bogging when in the bumps

<<"t-vent"mod...On the right side of the carb is a vent  hose that should go
straight up into the frame under
    the seat.>>>


   Yes, that hose is on the right side of the carb near the BACK of the
carb, kinda hard to see. There is a hose coming out of the right SIDE of the
carb, which goes up to the fuel petcock. Only a dummy would cut THAT line
and put a drain tee in it. Which, of course, is precisely what I did a
couple weeks ago.

    Gary in Vermont
    '99 DR350SE
    (Technically a DR350 SEX!! I believe Suzuki put another letter after the
SE to designate the year. A '97 would be an SE-V, a '98 an SE-W, etc.)


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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:37:11 -0700
From: Jim Smith <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) Fork Oil

563 ml per leg for the low seat mod or 565 ml per leg for the standard
setting per the factory manual.

Jim

> Does anyone know how much fork oil the '98 DR650SE takes? I am not just
> going to pour in the amount, I am going to do the measure from the top
> trick, But I just need to know if I have enough fork oil on hand or if I
> need to go get more. I don't want to take it apart without having all
> the stuff to put it back. My springs (front and rear) came today from
> White Bros. and I can't wait to put them in... Thanks..
>
> JB


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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:17:02 -0700
From: "Jesse Kientz   www.kientech.com" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (dr) Fork Oil

Hi Jan, just make sure you have two qts. that should be enough, 5 & 1/2 to 6
inches from the top with the forks collapsed and springs out should work OK.

Regards,
Jesse Kientz
http://www.kientech.com/

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]On
Behalf Of Jan Bradley
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:35 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: (dr) Fork Oil


Does anyone know how much fork oil the '98 DR650SE takes? I am not just
going to pour in the amount, I am going to do the measure from the top
trick, But I just need to know if I have enough fork oil on hand or if I
need to go get more. I don't want to take it apart without having all
the stuff to put it back. My springs (front and rear) came today from
White Bros. and I can't wait to put them in... Thanks..

JB
'98 DR650SE
'86 R80

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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:14:30 -0400
From: "Mike Harpster" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) Buying Tires

Just wanted to tell people about my experience with MAW. In March I ordered a
pair of boots, fender pack, elbow protectors, and knee protectors. The only
thing they had in stock was the fender pack. Everything else was put on
backorder for thirty days, after which time if the items are not received the
order is cancelled. This is their policy, if you want it to stay on backorder
longer than 30 days you must notify them. Well I didn't get anything else from
them during the 30 days, so I ordered the same items from Dennis Kirk. They also
had to backorder the boots but sent me the other items. Dennis Kirk got me my
boots about a month later and I was happy. In mid-may I got a package from MAW,
with you guessed it the boots.
I called MAW and explained what happened and asked how to return the boots.
The woman then informed me that returning them was no problem but I would be
charged a restocking fee and shipping costs.Of course I didn't agree to this,
and after arguing with her and her talking to "someone" several times she
finally said she wouldn't charge me and would credit my card for the full
amount. The credit wasn't on my last statement, so I'm still not sure if this is
resolved. Needless to say I will NEVER order anything from MAW again. You can
decide for yourself.


Garth Skelton wrote:

> Thanks for all the advice.
> I bought tires from MAW (Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse).  Their selection
> was unparalled and their prices really good.  I ordered a set of the Cheng
> Shin C858 to try out and they ran me $36 and $28 for front and rear.  They
> are DOT approved too!
> I also ordered another MT 21 for the rear ($52).  This is going to be my
> "special ocassions" tire.  I have one now and it's great, but ride it on the
> street and watch the rubber wear as you ride!
> Their web site is aweful and tough to navigate around, but their customer
> service is excellent.  You can access them through Arrowheadmotorsports.com,
> go to Favorite Links, and then to Motorcycles A to Z, (I think).  Their
> number is 1-800-241-2222.
> If you are looking to buy anything I would recommend checking prices with
> them first.  I don't know if everything is inexpensive or not.
> I wish you guys would have told me about this sooner. I have been spending
> $80-$90 a tire for the last two years!
> Thanks again,
> Garth
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