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dr-digest            Saturday, May 13 2000            Volume 01 : Number 139



Re: (dr) re: DR350 mufflers
(dr) ndr- how to carry tools
Re: (dr) Chain guard & Rear shock
Re: (dr) re: DR350 mufflers
(dr) More Super Motard info
Re:  (dr) More Super Motard info
Re: (dr) More Super Motard info
Re: (dr) re: DR350 mufflers
Re: (dr) re: DR350 mufflers

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Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:13:44 -0700
From: Wayne Marsula' <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) re: DR350 mufflers

Mark Sampson wrote:
>
> >
> > > Speaking of mufflers, does anyone have experience with the Big Gun
> system?
> > >
> > > Chris
> >
> > I do.  I have one on my KLR650.  I have the complete system with the
> header
> > pipe and can.  It comes standard with the racing core.  For an extra $89
> you
> > buy the spark arrestor/quiet core.  While it will arrest sparks, it isn't
> > 'much' quieter.  Only changes the "brightness" of the tone somewhat.  The
> > system is well made, looks great, and will increase your power noticably.
> > It will also piss off your neighborsif you live in a residential area as
> it
> > is loud.  Very loud.
>
>         And sadly----as much as I love the sound of a aftermarket exhaust on
> a four stroke------you will be contributing to the demise of offroad riding.
> This not an opinion---a definite fact.
>     Here is the way I look at--------------If you bike had 22 HP stock (just
> an example)----having 23 0r 24 isn't worth the disadvantages.
>     Just Last year--------I had to change riding buddies------we were banded
> in the same weekend from a campground and a Motel we had ridden to because
> of one guys aftermarket exhaust on his WR400.  They simply said "Don't come
> back"!!!!!!!
>
>     I hate it------but it's the fact!!!
>
> Mark Sampson

Mark and List,
    I'll second the motion. You are so right, the little extra gain is not
worth pissing off those who wish we weren't there in the first place.
And you can gain more by doing other things to your bike: suspension
upgrade; airbox; riding skills. You will often find the best and fastest
riders are on quiet, stock equipment, take a lesson from them.
    And please, at Moab next month, there will be many of us riding the
trails out there. We have to share them with bicyclists, 4-wheelers,
hikers, and most of all, Rangers. Keep it quiet and safe, you can still
have a lot of fun that way.
    A whole herd of noisy, fast, dust causing motorcyclists will be sure to
get us "un-invited" back next year. And that's not just at Moab, but at
all the areas they are just looking for any excuse to close down. You
will be doing us, and YOURSELF, a great favor by "keeping clean".
Wayne
- --
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        Wayne Marsula', Escondido, CA
Vintage Japanese Motorcycle Club - California Field Representative
            http://www.mikthebik.com/
        "Casual Collector of Classic Hondas"
MB-5    S-65    S-90    CT-90    SS-125    CA-95    CL-160    CB-200    TL-250    CB77    CL77    CA77
CB350-4    CB400F    CB500-4    B-550F    CB750F    GL1100
BMW R100GSPD (La Tortuga Coja)    BMW R75/5 "Toaster Tank"
Suzuki DR350SE    Yamaha YSR50 (for sale)   Yamaha TW200 (for sale)
AND........ A Proud Member of the: *NATIONAL*RIFLE*ASSOCIATION*

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Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:03:42 -0400
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jim_B=E9ranger?= <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) ndr- how to carry tools

I found a web page some time ago which provided details for building a tool
carrying PVC tube that hung off the skid plate for dual sport bikes.. does
anyone have the link?

- -J


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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 10:01:26 +0200
From: "Mitja Jeric" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) Chain guard & Rear shock

The shock spring is stock. I've set the preload almost all the way in
because the bike felt very low (I'm quite tall and I the bike fells so low -
maybe it would be better to make a higher seat and buy higher bars) ,
also after doing that I found that I could ride a lot faster over small
bumps (the bike didn't wobble any more). But when riding over big bumps the
bike feels just the way I described it.

Mitja



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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 06:27:53 -0600
From: "Kurt Simpson" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) re: DR350 mufflers

> upgrade; airbox; riding skills. You will often find the best and fastest
> riders are on quiet, stock equipment, take a lesson from them.
> And please, at Moab next month, there will be many of us riding the
> trails out there. We have to share them with bicyclists, 4-wheelers,
> hikers, and most of all, Rangers. Keep it quiet and safe, you can still
> have a lot of fun that way.

Wayne gives me the opportunity to remind DR list members of two upcoming
events which have their roots as Dual Sport News sponsored events. The first
is the 4th annual "Utah Get-Together"...founded and coordinated by former
DSN editor, Gino Pokluda. Headquartered out of Canyonlands Campground and
Moab, UT...this event has become a wonderful "all-brands" social gathering.
I expect to see over 150 riders and guests this year in one of the most
breathtaking sites in the country. You can gain more information by visiting
www.dualsport.org (www.geocities.com/~klrdsn/page54.html) . The dates are
June 7-10.

The second is the Dual Sport News/Happy Trails Motorcycle Products 1st
Annual Swiftwater Rally. Taking place on August 23-26, the rally is based
out of Swiftwater RV Park and Store on the Salmon River in Northern Idaho.
The focus of the ride is to offer breathtaking views of Idaho and Oregon
with the best dual sporting anywhere. Ride organizer is Tim Bernard at
[e-mail] (www.happy-trail.com) .

I hope to see you there.

Kurt Simpson
Editor
Dual Sport News
'97 DR350SE
'96 DR650SE DSN Project Bike


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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 12:25:24 -0500
From: "Coleman, Patrick" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) More Super Motard info

A couple of weeks ago, I posted a message about Super Motard-ing my DR. Most
of the responses were "what's a super motard?"

A buddy of mine just did a semi-conversion on a XR400. A photo can be found
at http://home.earthlink.net/~rletteer/xrsmII.jpg

Here is a quote from my friend, who is primarily a sport bike rider who
occasionally dual sport rides. By the way, he has a stable of sport bikes,
mostly Ducatis and BMWs, that he normally rides:
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I've done it now. Picked up a 3.5"X17 front and 4.5"X17 rear Acront wheels
w/ gold Talon hubs, MEZ1s and a big ass front disc and put them on the
XR400. Got it all together last night. Had to get new shocks on the work
truck this morning so threw the motard in the back - left the truck at the
tire store - and spent the next two and a half hours carving the twisties
near Woodstock.  WOO-HOO!

This fugger rails...and STOPS!! What a great morning at the office.

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Just another way to have fun and eliminate any excess cash you may have.



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Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:40:43 -0400
From: "Gary Douglas" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re:  (dr) More Super Motard info

<<<A couple of weeks ago, I posted a message about Super Motard-ing my DR.
Most
of the responses were "what's a super motard?"A buddy of mine just did a
semi-conversion on a XR400. A photo can be found at
http://home.earthlink.net/~rletteer/xrsmII.jpg

Wow, that looks like a fierce road warrior! What effect does it have to put
smaller diameter wheels/tires on a bike like ours? What's it like to ride
(on-road) versus the standard size wheels?

Gary Douglas
So. Burlington, VT
'99 DR350SE


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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 14:26:02 -0600
From: "Shayne Seefeldt" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) More Super Motard info

> <<<A couple of weeks ago, I posted a message about Super Motard-ing my DR.
> Most
> of the responses were "what's a super motard?"A buddy of mine just did a
> semi-conversion on a XR400. A photo can be found at
> http://home.earthlink.net/~rletteer/xrsmII.jpg
>

So is there actually any super-motard racing in the States?? That would be
something to see, very exciting. I've heard that in France there are
numerous injuries, but that's not why I want to see Super-motard racing!

By the way, what type of pipe is on that Honda??


Regards,

Shayne.
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/seefeldt/dr/index.html


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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 18:34:43 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr) re: DR350 mufflers

In a message dated 05/12/00 18:09:01 Eastern Standard Time,
[e-mail] writes:

> Mark Sampson wrote:
>  >
>  > >
>  > > > Speaking of mufflers, does anyone have experience with the Big Gun
>  > system?
>  > > >
>  > > > Chris
>  > >
>  > > I do.  I have one on my KLR650.  I have the complete system with the
>  > header
>  > > pipe and can.  It comes standard with the racing core.  For an extra
$89
>  > you
>  > > buy the spark arrestor/quiet core.  While it will arrest sparks, it
isn'
> t
>  > > 'much' quieter.  Only changes the "brightness" of the tone somewhat.
> The
>  > > system is well made, looks great, and will increase your power
noticably.
>
>  > > It will also piss off your neighborsif you live in a residential area
as
>  > it
>  > > is loud.  Very loud.
>  >
>  >         And sadly----as much as I love the sound of a aftermarket
exhaust
> on
>  > a four stroke------you will be contributing to the demise of offroad
> riding.
>  > This not an opinion---a definite fact.
>  >     Here is the way I look at--------------If you bike had 22 HP stock (
> just
>  > an example)----having 23 0r 24 isn't worth the disadvantages.
>  >     Just Last year--------I had to change riding buddies------we were
> banded
>  > in the same weekend from a campground and a Motel we had ridden to
because
>  > of one guys aftermarket exhaust on his WR400.  They simply said "Don't
> come
>  > back"!!!!!!!
>  >
>  >     I hate it------but it's the fact!!!
>  >
>  > Mark Sampson
>
>  Mark and List,
>   I'll second the motion. You are so right, the little extra gain is not
>  worth pissing off those who wish we weren't there in the first place.
>  And you can gain more by doing other things to your bike: suspension
>  upgrade; airbox; riding skills. You will often find the best and fastest
>  riders are on quiet, stock equipment, take a lesson from them.
>   And please, at Moab next month, there will be many of us riding the
>  trails out there. We have to share them with bicyclists, 4-wheelers,
>  hikers, and most of all, Rangers. Keep it quiet and safe, you can still
>  have a lot of fun that way.
>   A whole herd of noisy, fast, dust causing motorcyclists will be sure to
>  get us "un-invited" back next year. And that's not just at Moab, but at
>  all the areas they are just looking for any excuse to close down. You
>  will be doing us, and YOURSELF, a great favor by "keeping clean".
>  Wayne
>  --
Mark and Wayne, et al:

Halleluah!

It is refreshing to see some of you guys out there with some common sense and
a realization that we can sometimes be our own worst enemies. "Performance"
exhausts on any bikes that are not used solely in competition are just more
nails in the coffin called "land closures". The miniscule amount of HP
increase is not worth the massive amount of noise these systems generate.
Stuffing them up with "quiet cores" or discs to make them bearable as far as
noise levels will very effectively negate any of the claimed power increases.
Save the 200 to 300 bucks normally spent on these systems and use it to dial
in the suspension and modify the intake tract; ride quietly so you can.....so
we ALL can.

Mike Mahoney
(a quiet, dirt only) '93 DR350

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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:20:41 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (dr) re: DR350 mufflers

To the List;

The following excerpt is taken from Baja Designs (bajadesigns.com) online=20
catalog under the section for exhaust and muffler baffles:

"Muffling a big bore four stroke motor is a real pain. Anything you do to=20
make it quiet seems to have the same effect as stuffing a potato in the=20
exhaust pipe. I=E2=80=99ve come to realize, however, that if there is going=20=
to be=20
anywhere left to ride, its up to us to make our bikes as quiet as possible.=20
I=E2=80=99d rather put up with a little horsepower loss than have closed sig=
ns on my=20
favorite riding areas. If you can put up with the stock muffler, leave it on=
.=20
=E2=80=9CBut it weighs 23 lbs!=E2=80=9D one customer told me. Try 7 lbs, 3 o=
unces (XR 600).=20
It=E2=80=99s lighter than it looks. The lightest aftermarket mufflers shed a=
 whooping=20
2 lbs (Big Deal on a motorcycle that already weighs 285 lbs)."=20

This is from a well regarded, aftermarket supplier of dual sport/dirt bike=20
accessories.

Mike
'93 DR350


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