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dr-digest            Friday, March 31 2000            Volume 01 : Number 086



(dr) DR650SE, Kouba links
Re: (dr) DR435 first impressions - two thumbs up!
(dr) Non-DR: Collett communicators
Re: (dr) DR650SE, Kouba links
(dr) Value of the Boxed Swing Arm (long)
(dr) Fw: 93 DR350S Engine Missing

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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:01:58 +0200
From: Rainer Knape <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) DR650SE, Kouba links

Hello Norm,

I understand that you actually do not offer the Kouba links for the DR
650 (I have seen that you are planning to make them for the DR400 too).
Maybe you could explain to the DR650 owners of the list if we can expect
you to develop some.
Or isn't there any need because the suspensions geometry is 'better'
than the DR 350 one's and it would not be an improvement ?

Thanks
Rainer


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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 06:32:11 -0800
From: Springer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) DR435 first impressions - two thumbs up!

"Jeff A. Henshaw" wrote:
>
> Hello everybody,
> I just had a nice ride today in the Tillamook Burn area up here in Oregon,
> on the new Kientech engineered scooter-  it's definitely two thumbs up!
> Rode with an RM250 and an XR400,  and found a chance to do a little drag
> racing against the XR.
> Easily passed him,

> Lowered, rearset footpegs

   Jeff, what is the lowered footpeg think that you did?  Can you
explain?  I have put a set of rear pegs about 10 inches behind my
stockers and find it does wonders for uphill climbs.  Much more control
and not as much strength required to hold yourself up to the handle
bars.  Do you have a picture of your setup?

   Incidentally how much would all that modification (all the Mods) to
the bike cost the average guy.

   Answer these questions to the whole list, please.  I think everyone
would be interested.
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Pete Springer                                      PH 760-753-8475
Box 938                       501 Union St.
Cardiff, Ca 92007             Encinitas, Ca 92024

84 V65 Sabre, Honda
83 V65 Magna, Honda
86 VF700C Magna, Honda
86 XR600, Honda
94 DR350, Suzuki
85 XR350, Honda
87 TW200, Yam

The only thing worth dying for is living.
It's not smart people that live to be old, It's lucky people.
Sabre shock Altering is the answer to "The Meaning of Life"

(honda magna,honda sabre,V65,1100cc,vf750s,vf700s,vf700c,vf750c,honda
interceptor,vfr750f)

(honda
magnum,v45,750cc,vf750,vf700,vfr750,vfr800,vfr800f,vf1000,vf1000f)

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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:25:42 -0500
From: "Mark Sims" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Non-DR: Collett communicators

Hi,

I've been looking at Collett's (http://www.collett.mb.ca/)
website.  They have 2 helmet communicators: handsfree,
voice activated.

They are very expensive at $260 for the Model 900 and
$160 for the Model 49.  Of course you have to multiply
that by 2 (1 for me, 1 for my son) and that adds up to
big money.

Has anyone used these?  And what did you think?

Does anyone know of an alternative to Collett?

Regards...Mark
1998 DR350SE
Atlanta, GA

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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:26:51 -0700
From: njkouba <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (dr) DR650SE, Kouba links

Rainer and DR650 Listers,

We have not developed Kouba Links for the later model DR650 because to my
knowledge no-one is manufacturing rear springs with the heavier rates
required for the stock links, and new links would require even heavier.
Also the DR650 already can be lowered with the extra height adjustment on
the bottom shock mount, so lowering the rear would not be one of the
benefits as with the DR350. I would not say the DR650 geometry is better
than the DR350,  I would say that even stock both models are grossly under
sprung both front and rear and when riding double are bottomed out against
the shock stop in the rear before they even move.  There is definitely a
need for some help on the DR650's rear suspension, but untill rear springs
become available we are not planning on new links at this time.  If anyone
out there knows of a line of heavier rear springs for the DR650, please
bring us up to date as we have had a number of inquires asking these same
questions.  Thanks for the inquiry and if anything changes, we will post it
on the DR list.   The DRZ400 lowering links are now available and hope to
get the web-page updated soon.   Jeff H. hhheeelllppp

Norm


Suzuki DR Suspensions
DR.  DR
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/2299

Rainer Knape wrote:

> Hello Norm,
>
> I understand that you actually do not offer the Kouba links for the DR
> 650 (I have seen that you are planning to make them for the DR400 too).
> Maybe you could explain to the DR650 owners of the list if we can expect
> you to develop some.
> Or isn't there any need because the suspensions geometry is 'better'
> than the DR 350 one's and it would not be an improvement ?
>
> Thanks
> Rainer
>
>

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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:44:50 -0800
From: "Bob Ralston" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Value of the Boxed Swing Arm (long)

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Hi Everyone,

What is the real value of boxing the swingarm on our DR's?  Will the =
bike track straighter in the rough stuff and handle the hard hits better =
or is this modification just food for our minds? =20

Next: I have a suspension set-up question. I have had my fork and shock =
revalved and resprung by Fineline Racing (highly recommended by Desert =
racing folks) which has helped a lot.  At high speeds (at least for me), =
I get a rear end kick in the rough stuff.  Sag is set correctly.  I am =
running a .46kg springs in the front (10mm preload) and 6.7kg spring on =
the rear without Norm's links (I know this is a sin in this group).  =
Should I increase the compression damping or reduce it? I stayed away =
from the links on the recommendation by Norm due to the fact they would =
really heat up the shock when running for miles in the California desert =
whoops.  I can't reasonably go for more HP if I can't keep the bike =
going straight and keep it on the ground. Any suggestions? =20

Finally (whew):  Has anyone installed the Baja Design seat  kit?  Is it =
easy to do and was it worth it?  I am tired of banging my butt on the =
rear fender and hear the longer length of this seat helps.

Just curious as to how to schedule the next modification to my trusty =
old 93 DRS or should I just quit now and save for a new KTM 400 E/XC?

Bob Ralston

93 DR350S - FMF Powercore IV SA, Airbox mods, IMS 3.5 gal Desert Tank, =
Fineline Suspension, Applied Racing Triple clamps (15mm forward of =
stock), Renthal Jimmy Button Bars, JX Needle/Spring, Dunlop K139 (front) =
& K739 AT Desert (rear), Solid peg mounts, UNI filter, Scotts and other =
Thumper Racing products too numerous to mention.=20

Next step Vortex Airbox and swing arm bracing?

District 37 Desert F110 - The "Four Strokes" Rule Class

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swingarm on=20
our DR's?  Will the bike track straighter in the rough stuff and =
handle the=20
hard hits better or is this modification just food for our minds? =20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next: I have a suspension set-up =
question. I=20
have had my fork and shock revalved and resprung by Fineline Racing =
(highly=20
recommended by Desert racing folks) which has helped a lot.  At =
high speeds=20
(at least for me), I get a rear end kick in the rough stuff.  Sag =
is set=20
correctly.  I am running a .46kg springs in the front (10mm =
preload) and=20
6.7kg spring on the rear without Norm's links (I know this is a sin in =
this=20
group).  Should I increase the compression damping or reduce it? I =
stayed=20
away from the links on the recommendation by Norm due to the fact they =
would=20
really heat up the shock when running for miles in the California desert =

whoops.  I can't reasonably go for more HP if I can't keep the bike =
going=20
straight and keep it on the ground. Any suggestions?  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Finally (whew):  Has anyone =
installed the Baja=20
Design seat  kit?  Is it easy to do and was it worth it?  =
I am=20
tired of banging my butt on the rear fender and hear the longer length =
of this=20
seat helps.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just curious as to how to schedule the =
next=20
modification to my trusty old 93 DRS or should I just quit now and save =
for a=20
new KTM 400 E/XC?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob Ralston</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>93 DR350S - FMF Powercore IV SA, Airbox =
mods, IMS=20
3.5 gal Desert Tank, Fineline Suspension, Applied Racing Triple clamps =
(15mm=20
forward of stock), Renthal Jimmy Button Bars, JX Needle/Spring, Dunlop =
K139=20
(front) & K739 AT Desert (rear), Solid peg mounts, UNI filter, =
Scotts=20
and other Thumper Racing products too numerous to mention. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Next step Vortex Airbox and swing arm=20
bracing?<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>District 37 Desert F110 - The "Four =
Strokes" Rule=20
Class</DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:52:52 -0800
From: "Bob Ralston" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (dr) Fw: 93 DR350S Engine Missing

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Hi Jesse,

I dropped down to a 137.5 as you suggested and everything worked great. =
This change smooth out the power delivery considerably in the rocks and =
rough hills.  Thanks.  I finished the Dirt Diggers National Hare and =
Hound last weekend and think I did really well in the four stroke class. =
Come to think about it my DR always finishes (slow and steady may =
eventually win my class).   It was really cool watching the faces on the =
guys running WRs and XRs when I pass them in the nasty rock and single =
track sections.  Now the whoops are another story.  See my other email =
on some suspension questions.

Jesse - Thanks again .  You are a valuable asset to this group.

Bob

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From: Bob Ralston=20
To: DR350=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:41 AM
Subject: 93 DR350S Engine Missing


Hi Everyone,

My 93 DR350S has an engine miss at very high RPMs.  I am running with a =
stock CV carb (37.5 pilot, 140 main, JX needle in 4th position), a FMF =
PowerCore IV pipe and a modified airbox. Just for grins, I went to a 145 =
main and it got worse.  Does this sound like an carb or electrical =
problem? Other than this miss the bike runs great.  BTW: I do have a new =
plug and UNI airfilter.

Bob

93 DR350S - FMF Powercore IV SA, Airbox mods, Fineline Suspension, =
Applied
Racing Triple clamps, Renthal Jimmy Button Bars, JX Needle/Spring, =
Scotts and other Thumper
Racing products too numerous to mention. Next step Vortex Airbox and =
swing
arm bracing.

District 37 Desert F110 - The "Four Strokes" Rule Class

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Jesse,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I dropped down to a 137.5 as you =
suggested and=20
everything worked great. This change smooth out the power delivery=20
considerably in the rocks and rough hills.  Thanks.  I finished the =
Dirt=20
Diggers National Hare and Hound last weekend and think I did really well =
in the=20
four stroke class. Come to think about it my DR always =
finishes=20
(slow and steady may eventually win my class).   It was really =
cool=20
watching the faces on the guys running WRs and XRs when I pass them in =
the nasty=20
rock and single track sections.  Now the whoops are another =
story. =20
See my other email on some suspension questions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jesse - Thanks again .  You are a =
valuable=20
asset to this group.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]" title=[e-mail]>Bob Ralston</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[e-mail]"=20
title=[e-mail]>DR350</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 21, 2000 11:41 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> 93 DR350S Engine Missing</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Everyone,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My 93 DR350S has an engine miss at very =
high=20
RPMs.  I am running with a stock CV carb (37.5 pilot, 140 main, JX =
needle=20
in 4th position), a FMF PowerCore IV pipe and a modified =
airbox. Just for=20
grins, I went to a 145 main and it got worse.  Does this sound like =
an carb=20
or electrical problem? Other than this miss the bike runs great.  =
BTW: I do=20
have a new plug and UNI airfilter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Bob</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>93 DR350S - FMF Powercore IV SA, Airbox =
mods,=20
Fineline Suspension, Applied<BR>Racing Triple clamps, Renthal Jimmy =
Button Bars,=20
JX Needle/Spring, Scotts and other Thumper<BR>Racing products too =
numerous to=20
mention. Next step Vortex Airbox and swing<BR>arm =
bracing.<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>District 37 Desert F110 - The "Four =
Strokes" Rule=20
Class</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>

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