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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (cbiz) Question about this list
Date: 05 Feb 1998 22:42:47 -0700 (MST)


> When I subscribed to this list, I think the description said it was
> about anything pertaining to the business side of comics; all I've seen,
> though, are press releases.  Is this an appropriate forum to ask
> questions about business aspects of comics, or would that not fit in
> here?

This is the place for that sort of thing, but it seems like we don't have much
of anything but lurkers on here . . .

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From: Patrick Pinchart <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (cbiz) Question about this list
Date: 06 Feb 1998 11:25:36 +0100


Le 6/02/98 6:42 , Lazlo Nibble ([e-mail]) a =E9crit:

>
>> When I subscribed to this list, I think the description said it was
>> about anything pertaining to the business side of comics; all I've seen,
>> though, are press releases.  Is this an appropriate forum to ask
>> questions about business aspects of comics, or would that not fit in
>> here?
>
>This is the place for that sort of thing, but it seems like we don't have
>much
>of anything but lurkers on here . . .
>
Hi!
As one of those lurkers, I appreciate those press releases that give =
me news about the comics business.
I agree it would be interesting to discuss other aspects, such as the =
possibilities for European publishers to have their publications =
published on the US markets.
As you may know, only a few of our artists have been able to sell =
books in the United States (for a very specialized public): Moebius, =
Schuiten, Herg=E9 (with very little success as compared with its huge =
popularity in Europe), Uderzo...
Our Spirou adventures have been published in the US, but the results =
are very poor as compared to the sellings of the European versions.
The "Kid Comics" site we just launched is a totally experimental site =
on which we will test the possibilities for European characters to =
attract American Kids.
If, with an humour e-zine, full of free online comics, gifts and =
funny tricks, we do not succeed to interest then, we will conclude =
definitively that there is no hope to break the cultural barrier.
I would be pleased to read your opinions about this one.
Patrick Pinchart

*****************<http://www.kidcomics.com>*****************
The Club for Comic Book Lovers: a FREE humour ezine for Kids,
full of online comics, games, free gifts, brainteasers, etc.
**************<http://www.dupuis-entertainment.com>**********
Licensing, broadcasting, publishing and multimedia from Dupuis:
Online comics, games and animated cartoons, news about comics
and graphic novels.


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From: Hal Phillips <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (cbiz) Question about this list
Date: 07 Feb 1998 00:55:10 -0500


Patrick Pinchart wrote:
>
> I agree it would be interesting to discuss other aspects, such as the possibilities for European publishers to have their publications published on the US markets.

    Different strokes for different folks; as far as I'm personally
concerned, European comics are nice, but there are plenty of American
comics that are higher priorities for me with a limited budget.
    As for a market for Euro-comics in America, realize that in any medium
from comics to film to music, the majority of foreign material will be
seen sort of like underground material, appealing to a different
sensibility than the popular mainstream comics.  There will always be
the few stand-outs, like Moebius, but most European comics will always
have a small, limited following in America.  That following will be
devoted, though, and they'll always be there.
    As long as the importers aren't expecting their comics to sell the same
way in America as in Europe, there won't be a problem.

--
Hal Phillips
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something that truly inspired you - maybe turned your life around or
something - that you'd like to share with others."


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From: "Rizzo Frank" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (cbiz) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 19:47:54 +1100
Date: 26 Feb 1998 01:55:25 -0700


hi i have been on this list for about a week haven't rec'd any emails yey
any one else on this list or what??



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From: Jake <[e-mail]>
Subject: (cbiz) RE: Is anyone here?
Date: 26 Feb 1998 18:20:06 -0500


I accidentally sent this to Frank only by mistake.....oops!

Rizzo Frank wrote:

That is one seriously kewl nick, dude.

>any one else on this list or what??

Right here, bud.

I do have a question for everyone here.  Is there some sort of "manual
of style" for writing a comic script?  I've not been very successful at
finding one.

Or, since we're all sitting in front of our glowing boxes, is there a
piece of software like a movie-script authoring proggie out there, but
for comics?

Thanks,

Jake
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From: Casey Lau <[e-mail]>
Subject: (cbiz) ARTISTS WANTED!
Date: 27 Feb 1998 12:47:02 +0800 (CST)


New Publisher Looking for Artists!

Powerline Comics! is a new entrant into the comic industry this fall, and
we're looking for talented newcomers and semi-pro's to work with us on
producing monthly full-color super-hero/sci-fi/action-adventure comics.

Please e-mail URL's  of sample page on the web, or e-mail COMPRESSED
sample JPEG's to this address.

Pencillers who can ink their own work on a monthly basis, or teams that
work close together will be looked at first. We're looking for stylized
artists who stand out!  Lots of good artists out there who can draw great
figures and anatomy, but we want to emphasize skill in drawing
backgrounds, technology and vehicles. We'll answer all who apply.

Please feel free  to pass this post along to any who might  be interested.

Thanks,
Mr. Casey Lau
Powerline Comics!


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From: [e-mail] (Curtis Mack)
Subject: (cbiz) RE: Is anyone here?
Date: 26 Feb 1998 22:30:40 -0700 (MST)



>I do have a question for everyone here.  Is there some sort of "manual
>of style" for writing a comic script?  I've not been very successful at
>finding one.

Nope, everyone has a different format.  I run a comic book writers forum and
we've went over that very question many times.  but when you say "manual of
style" do you mean the format of the script or the plot of the script?  I'm
guessing format right?? I think Dark Horse has the best format.  They have a
webpage somewhere that explains it but i don't know where it is. Search for
Darkhorse Comics or something I'm sure you'll find it.

laters
Curtis

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From: "BATTERSBY,Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: RE: (cbiz) RE: Is anyone here?
Date: 27 Feb 1998 16:33:56 +1100


Just to announce my continued presence (haven't posted in ages, been
busy, you knwo how it gets):

For script submissions, and for the stuff that I'm working on with
another fellow, I follow the Dark Horse format. I actually wrote & got
it from the company before I had Net Access, but I have seen their site
in my net-wanderings and do know you can download it from them.

However, for stuff I write and draw myself, I actually use film format,
as I trained in film. I find it easier to read from, and more useful in
terms of pacing my own work. If anyone doesn't know how it works, or
wants a rundown, I'll run through how it looks.

Cheers,

Lee

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From: Jim Drew / Ciao! Publications <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (cbiz) RE: Is anyone here?
Date: 27 Feb 1998 00:41:44 +0100


[e-mail] writes:

>I do have a question for everyone here.  Is there some sort of "manual
>of style" for writing a comic script?  I've not been very successful at
>finding one.

If you're looking for information on making comics, you should consider
joining the "gutters" mailing list.  comix-biz is for the business side
of comics, and the industry.

That said, the best script format I've seen is in the guidelines from
Dark Horse.  If you (or anyone) wants, I can e-mail a text copy of them.


Jim Drew                                [e-mail]
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     "All the *good* super-speed names were already taken."
    -- Marc Lynx, "Belles"




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From: Jake <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (cbiz) RE: Is anyone here?
Date: 27 Feb 1998 11:54:02 -0500


> If you're looking for information on making comics, you should > consider joining the "gutters" mailing list.  comix-biz is for the > business side of comics, and the industry.

Everyone's been giving that as advice, I think I'm going to check it
out.

Thanks.

That said, how do I find out about this "gutters" list?  I've not turned
it up in my cursory searches.  Oh, and if learning how best to present a
script to a company for approval isn't related directly to the business
side, then we must be on significantly different wavelengths.

-Jake


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From: "Lazlo Nibble" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (cbiz) RE: Is anyone here?
Date: 27 Feb 1998 11:13:59 -0700 (MST)


> Oh, and if learning how best to present a script to a company for approval
> isn't related directly to the business side, then we must be on
> significantly different wavelengths.

Well, the main purpose of this list is to provide a place to discuss the
retailing and distribution end of the industry.

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From: Jim Drew / Ciao! Publications <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (cbiz) RE: Is anyone here?
Date: 27 Feb 1998 19:54:53 +0100


[e-mail] writes:

>That said, how do I find out about this "gutters" list?  I've not turned
>it up in my cursory searches.  Oh, and if learning how best to present a
>script to a company for approval isn't related directly to the business
>side, then we must be on significantly different wavelengths.

The list address is: [e-mail]

I don't think gutters is on majordomo, but uses "listproc" instead.  So try
sending a subscribe message to "[e-mail]".  If that
doesn't work, I can try harder to dig up the right info.

How to present a script as a submission is how to *create* comics.  The
comix-biz list was started to be about how to *publish* comics (the
business side, not the creative side) and about how the industry itself
works.  Definitely different things.  (Trust me on this.  You shouldn't
talk up X-Men plots here, either, for paralle reasons: that's not the
business of comics, even if X-Men happens to be a big part of the comics
business.)

Jim




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From: "Toni Milovan" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (cbiz) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 19:47:54 +1100
Date: 26 Feb 1998 13:33:55 +0100



-----Original Message-----


>
>hi i have been on this list for about a week haven't rec'd any emails ye=
y
>any one else on this list or what??
>


I'm here for a while now and I can tell that postings are relly rare on t=
his
list.

TM


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From: Frank Madsen <[e-mail]>
Subject: (cbiz) Re: comix-biz-digest V2 #17
Date: 27 Feb 1998 01:19:39 +0100


>any one else on this list or what??

Yeah - we're here...

Jake's search for a comics authoring software program sound intriguing -
but if everybody had the same program, all stories would be fairly much
alike. Maybe some of the major superhero publishers have one allready..? Or
they may even have copies of the same program :)

A Danish film company just bought the rights to make the books of the rural
romantic novelist Morten Korch into a TV-series about life in the
countryside during the start of this century, and their first action was to
put every plotline into a giant database, in order to write entirely new
episodes in the same mood and style as the old books. Sounds funny to me -
I look forward to seeing the TV-series. I once read, that Dallas or Dynasty
had their plots written by computer, too, but maybe that was just a nasty
rumor?

Maybe we could start a discussion about comics-writing by hand on this
list? How to get ideas, establish a plot a.s.o.

Kind regards,

FRANK B. MADSEN                E-mail: [e-mail]
Comics writer & artist      Homepage: http://www.frankmadsen.dk
WORK:  Studio Gimle, Noerrebrogade 55A,2, DK 2200 Koebenhavn N.
Phone [phone]. Fax [phone].  Cell phone [phone].
HOME: Brandts Vaenge 11, DK 3460 Birkeroed. Phone [phone].
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