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From: HeIIblazer@aol.com
Subject: (cbiz) Why kids don't read comics anymore?
Date: 02 Jun 1999 16:00:07 EDT
From all the things I've heard, kids just aren't buying comic books anymore.
I think there are several reasons behind this. Adults may not think much of
droppin 2 or 3 bucks on a comic book. Adults pay crazy prices for older back
issues sometimes as well. When you're 8 years old though 2 bucks is something
you have to save for months for. Comics are expensive. Granted they're
expensive to make too these days. It's not really anything we change, but
it's a fact we have to face that kids can't pay alot for comics.
Another reason would probably be, if a kid can save his money up to buy let's
say in example, X-Men every month, what's that kid going to do when something
like Fatal Attractions comes along and now it's a six part story in six
different double sized titles with hologram covers that cost 3 to 5 bucks a
book? Suddenly a kid that wants to enjoy one issue of X-Men for 2 bucks is
paying up to 30 bucks if he wants the whole story in all six books. That is
totally out of price range for an 8 year old. Another example is DC's current
Batman storyline, No Man's Land. I love this story myself. One of the best
ever, but an 8 year old kid who wanted 12 issues (one year's worth) of Batman
is now going to have to buy Batman, Detective, Shadow of the Bat, Azrael, and
any crossover books. This could be as much as 72 books. That's 6 times the
amount of books the kid wanted but because the stories go from one book to
another he or she has to buy them all. In the 70's and earlier comics never
crossed over and in the 50's, 60's and early 70's is when they had their
greatest following, especially with kids. The industry has changed since
then, and I don't think it's for the better.
If you're not going to change things to make books appeal to kids, then make
them appeal to adults. Marvel doesn't even have a mature readers line, and in
the past when they've had one, they don't put Marvel on it, they call it Epic
and I think they had some other sub companies as well without the Marvel
logo. They say their books are for all ages, but what kid can afford them or
keep up with all the crossovers.
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From: Ian Barrett <unwell@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (cbiz) Why kids don't read comics anymore?
Date: 02 Jun 1999 16:19:19 PDT
>From: HeIIblazer@aol.com
>To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>Subject: (cbiz) Why kids don't read comics anymore?
>Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:00:07 EDT
>
>
>From all the things I've heard, kids just aren't buying comic books
>anymore.
Actually, it seems like Marvel and Image target teens moreso than adults.
Or so it seems to me. Most of the adults I talk to collect Dark Horse,
Indies and DCs. A few might pick up Deadpool, Daredevil or Spidey, but
aside from that, it's mostly folks age 13-18 that read the muties titles,
which constitute about half of Marvel's line now a days, and certaintly a
much higher % of sales than that.
>Another reason would probably be, if a kid can save his money up to buy
>let's
>say in example, X-Men every month, what's that kid going to do when
>something
>like Fatal Attractions comes along
Also, alot of teens are into it 'for the money', so they only buy X-Men and
Uncanny because they're convinced someday they'll be worth bundles. Heck, I
should know, I was there when I first started to collect comics. Then I
found some well written titles, good writters, and soon had forgotten most
of the popular books. Havn't looked at a non-Claremont X-Men in many many
moons.
>
>If you're not going to change things to make books appeal to kids, then
>make
>them appeal to adults. Marvel doesn't even have a mature readers line, and
>in
>the past when they've had one, they don't put Marvel on it, they call it
>Epic
>and I think they had some other sub companies as well without the Marvel
>logo.
One of those 'other' lines was 'Edge'. They stuck DD and Hulk in there for
a couple of issues. The only really adult comic I found in the line was
Typhoid Mary though, and that was pretty tame. One of the biggest reasons
kids arn't buying comics right now is because they don't need to. Ever
super hero worth his salt has a cartoon show, so the kids can enjoy them for
free. And of course, there's always the movies. If comic companies wanted
to target kids again, they need to take something like the 'Adventures' line
that DC is printing right now (or that Marvel used to print) stick a 99 cent
price tag on them like Marvel did a while ago, and do some new stories that
get promoed during the show. Also, it wouldn't hurt to flood newstands with
them, and not just confine them to comic shops.
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From: Gerard Stroomer <gerst@xs4all.nl>
Subject: (cbiz) Talent Search: CartooZine
Date: 25 Jun 1999 13:24:55 +0200
Dear Listmembers,
I'm quite new to the comix-biz mailing list, but I have a request for all
creators out there. I'm starting an online comic magazine, in which new
(young) talent can publish their work. I'm mostly focussing on people who
hadn't had much publication so far.
There are apparent advantages of using the Internet as a means of
publication. Think of the audience you can reach. This is much larger than
by using just print media(!) Also it is much cheaper... no more
foto-copying or printing!
The magazine is going to be called "CartooZine", and will be launched
somewhere between now and three weeks. It will basically read as a
magazine, so every now and then there will be a new issue. What I'm trying
to do is make reading online somewhat easier. So the size (in bytes and on
screen) will be taken in consideration when a cartoon is put in the magazine.
If you are a creator, and you are interested in joining my magazine, please
send me an e-mail. I will reply asap.
So get your pencils sharpened and off we go!
Gerard Stroomer
( gerst@xs4all.nl )
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