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From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" <RMikkelsen@mail.lhs.logan.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Just a question
Date: 04 Jan 1999 07:29:22 -0700
> I think we're planning in going to Coronation, but when is it?
> Thanks
> Ciarrai
>
>
Coronation is this weekend--January 9 $ 10 in Salt Lake City.
Rebecca
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From: macnbeach@juno.com (Carrie A. Beach)
Subject: (cdc) Fwd: What January is really like
Date: 04 Jan 1999 10:00:17 -0700
Good Evening, Everybody,
This is just too funny and well-written, and I just had to share.
Ciarrai
Twas the month after Christmas and all through the house,
Nothing would fit me, not even a blouse.
The cookies I'd nibbled, the eggnog I'd taste,
all the holiday parties had gone to my waist.
When I got on the scales there arose such a number!
When I walked to the store (less a walk than a lumber)
I'd remember the marvelous meals I'd prepared;
The gravies and sauces and beef nicely rared,
the punch and the cookies, the bread and the cheese,
and the way I'd never said "No thank you Please".
As I dresses myself in my husbands old shirt,
and prepared once again to do battle with dirt---
I said to myself, as only I can,
"YOu can't spend all winter disguised as a man!"
so---away with the last of the sour cream dip,
Get rid of the fruitcake, every cracker and chip,
Every last bit of food that I like must be banished,
"Till all the additional ounces have vanished."
I won't have a cookie--not even a lick,
I'll want only to chew on a long celery stick.
I won't have hot biscuits, or corn bread, or pie,
I'll munch on a carrot, and quietly cry.
I'm hungry, I'm lonesome, and life is a bore--
But isn't that what January is for?
Unable to giggle, no longer a riot.
Happy New Year to all, and to all a good diet!
--part0_915425058_boundary--
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From: macnbeach@juno.com (Carrie A. Beach)
Subject: (cdc) Corination
Date: 04 Jan 1999 10:24:34 -0700
Where and what time is Coronation? I looked around on the Kingdom web
site and Cote du Ceil's and couldn't find any information on it.
Thanks
Ciarrai
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From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" <RMikkelsen@mail.lhs.logan.k12.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Renaissance Fair
Date: 04 Jan 1999 11:50:13 -0700
Today I reserved Willow Park for the Renaissance Fair to be held
on May 1. We have all of the area where we hold summer fighters'
practices, and the covered pavillion, cement pad, and fireplace
areas. The cost was $150 (the money USU gives us will cover this
cost). By reserving this whole area, we will avoid conflict
with any other event (such as a Cinco de Mayo carnival which
they had last year at the park) There may be an additional
cost--According to the new rules established for Special Events at
the park, we might be required to hire Logan City Police Officers for
security. Because of the nature of our event, and because we have
not had any problems in the past (and one of the parks directors I
spoke to today didn't forsee any problems), we might not have to hire
a police officer. If we do, the charge is $35 per hour (do the
math--that is a whopping $280 for 10 am to 6 pm) We will be allowed
to set up the night before the Faire. Because May 1st is the first
day for which reservations are available, we won't be charged the
reservation fee for the park for setting up the night before
(however, in the future, we will have to pay the full-day fee for
both days, if both days fall within the regular reservation period).
We can have a couple of people stay overnight to guard the area.
If anyone can schedule to have Friday, April 30, off work to help set
up, your help would be greatly appreciated. (I realize that
the next week is finals week and that many of you will be needing to
study, but if you could schedule your studying so that you can be
available on Friday and Saturday, the shire will need your help)
A reminder: Everyone is required to be there on Saturday to help
with the Faire. If we don't do the Faire, the shire will have to
start charging each member of the shire about $30-40 each to take
care of our financial commitment to the Whittier Center) We have so
much to set up and it will get dark fairly early in the evening (I
would guess that set up after 7 pm will be pretty much impossible.)
We won't be able to drive cars (and maybe not trailers--I'll check)
onto the grass for unloading, loading, or for using car headlights to
help set up.
A suggestion was made to look at having the Faire at the Tabernacle
grounds. I spoke to the guy who is charge of reservations and he
asked me to send him a letter detailing what we would be doing. I
received a letter back saying that our request was denied. Unless we
can come up with another venue, Willow Park is it.
Rebecca
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From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" <RMikkelsen@mail.lhs.logan.k12.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Viking info
Date: 05 Jan 1999 08:50:28 -0700
For all you Viking types out there--here is a website with loads of
info. I can recommend Gunnora as a good source (she is a
Laurel who also maintains a Laurels-only list-serve) (Note to
Francesca: are you collecting sources like this for the shire arts
file?)
Rebecca
Forwarded message follows:
I am pleased to announce that the Viking Answer Lady website
(http://www.realtime.com/~gunnora) has finally been completely redesigned
for a more up-to-date look, plus better navigation. And of course, new
articles have been added as well.
Look for more new articles to come in the next few months!
Brand-New Articles:
======================================================================
The First Viking Raid in Europe: A furore Normannorum libera nos, Domine
(General Articles Section)
A look at the first recorded Viking raid at Lindisfarne
in 793 and the origins of the commonly quoted
phrase, "From the fury of the Northmen deliver me,
O Lord".
The Beasts of Battle: Raven, Eagle and Wolf
(Arts & Literature Section)
The use of the Beasts of Battle theme, naming
the scavenger beasts of the battlefield` in poetry
to evoke a battle scene, is one of the hallmarks
of Old Norse and Old English poetry. This article
examines the mythological associations connected
with each of the Beasts and shows how these
associations can be used in poetry to amplify the
underlying meaning of the poem.
Recently Added Articles:
======================================================================
Review of Books for Children about the Vikings
(Bibliography/Books Section)
Just in time for Yule -- stocking stuffers for your young
readers and little Vikings. There are some books here
that adults will appreciate as well.
What kind of pets and domestic animals did the Vikings keep?
(Agriculture Section)
History and information about cats, dogs, unusual pets
and a range of domestic animals.
Duelling - Holmgang and Einvige
(Warfare Section)
An in-depth look at the Viking forms of the duel
and how the duel evolved over time as Viking
society changed.
Viking Horses
(Agriculture Section)
Horse breeds, archaeological remains, saddles,
bridles, bits, stirrups - a little of everything about
Viking horses.
And Don't Miss the Viking Answer Lady Article Archives:
======================================================================
GENERAL ARTICLES
Definition of "Viking"
Viking Age Timeline
The First Viking Raid
DAILY LIFE
Viking Foods
Viking Women's Clothing
Viking Clothing Decoration and Embroidery
Viking Games and Pasttimes
Viking Wedding Ceremony
Homosexuality in the Viking Age
Purchasing Amber
AGRICULTURE
Viking Horses
Viking Pets and Domestic Animals
TECHNOLOGY
Viking Ships
Viking Navigational Tools and Techniques
Viking Constellation Names
Runic Calendars
ARTS & LITERATURE
Finnish and Viking Poetry
The Beasts of Battle Theme in Germanic Poetry
MYTHOLOGY & RELIGION
Viking Ghosts
White Christ and Red Thorr
WARFARE
Holmgang
Berkerkergang
Viking Armor and Weapons
SETTLEMENTS & EXPANSION
Viking Invasions in Wales
Vikings in Russia: the Risala of Ibn Fadlan.
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Childrens' Books About the Viking Age
Enjoy!
W=B5s =A6u H=B5l (Waes Thu Hael)
::GUNNORA::
Gunnora Hallakarva
Herskerinde
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Ek eigi visa =A6ik hversu o=3Dlask Lofstirrlauf-Kruna heldr hversu na Hers=
is-A=3Dal
(Ek eigi thik hversu odhlask Lofstirrlauf-Kruna heldr hversu na Hersis-Adh=
al)
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From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com>
Subject: (cdc) Artemisian Coronation Event Announcement
Date: 05 Jan 1999 10:26:14 -0700
Ciarrai,
Here's the info you asked for.
Landolf
---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on
01/05/99 10:25 AM ---------------------------
Bagpiper@aol.com on 01/03/99 03:40:24 AM
Please respond to artemisia@server.umt.edu
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
Now for a word from our sponsors....
Artemisian Coronation
January 9, 1999 Salt Lake City, UT
Upon the tenth day of October AS XXXIII did the honorable and chivalrous
fighters of the Kingdom of Artemisia meet to do combat for the most coveted
Crown of Artemisia. Many met and did acquit themselves nobly upon the
field.
In the end, Viscount Sir Sean Kirkpatrick Tarragon and Viscount Sir Basil
der
Drache did face one another. After many rounds which did provide example
following example of noble behavior and chivalrous combat Sir Sean did
emerge
victorious.
As a result, the Coronation of Viscount Sir Sean and his beautiful and
virtuous lday, Kassandra Eymann, shall be held on the ninth day of January
AS
XXXIII in the ancient Barony of Loch Salann. The site for this auspicious
event will be the Prophet Elias Greek Orthodox Church. The site will open
at
9:00 AM and will close at 11:30 PM. The final court of Their Majesties Alan
and Corisande will begin at 10:00 with the Coronation of Their Royal
Highnesses Sean and Kassandra to follow soon thereafter. Following the
Coronation of the List for the Royal Rapier Champion will be held. A dinner
break is scheduled for 6:00 PM. The populace is invited back for dancing
with
the music provided by the Loch Salann Musician's Guyild. During the dancing
we
will take some time out to hold the Bard of Artemisia Competition. Also, a
dessert buffet will be provided (if you would like to bring a dessert to
share, please contact the autocrat).
On the following day, the Tournaments for the Kings and Queens Champion
will
be held. There will be no opening court. The List will be open from 9:00 AM
to
10:00 AM ONLY. The tournaments will commence IMMEDIATELY following. The
site
for the Tournaments will be the Little Theater in Murray Park.
The site for Saturday is discreetly damp (no can, bottles or hard liqour
please) and the Sunday site is very dry. Pets are not allowed at the
Saturday
site but are alright at the Sunday site. Both the Saturday and Sunday sites
are handicapped accessible.
DIRECTIONS FOR SATURDAY: From the north or south take I-15 (yes we know
that
constructions makes these directions uncertain) and take either the 4500
South
or 3300 South exit. One of these should be open for the direction you're
coming from. Following one of these streets East until you come to Highland
Drive, Turn right onto Highland Drive and follow it Sourth past the
Cottonwood
Mall. The site will be on your left (east) side. The address is 5335 South
Highland Drive. There will be signs posted out front.
DIRECTIONS FOR SUNDAY: From the North or South take the 5400 South exit.
Turn
East and follow 5400 South to State Street. Turn left onto State Street.
The
entrance to Murray Park will be on your right side approximately the
distance
of two blocks. There will be signs posted.
SITE FEE: $8.00 with $1.00 discount for member for both days.
Make checks payable to "The Barony of Loch Salann, SCA Inc.".
Autocrat: Lady Aurelia of Whitebrooke (Alison Axland) 801.486.8227
?? 2730 South 1100 East #11, Salt Lake City, UT
Marshal: Lord Connor MacAulay 801.561.0690
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From: "CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:07:13 -0700
Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Because the cow has the "udder"
Something to lighten your day!!!
Lady Rixa
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From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:30:49 -0700
My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the
'udder', where are the other two legs?
Pour over that one for a while,
Landolf
"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM
Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Because the cow has the "udder"
Something to lighten your day!!!
Lady Rixa
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From: "CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:32:51 -0700
Were you not using your own two legs?
>>> "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com> 01/11 2:30 PM >>>
My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the
'udder', where are the other two legs?
Pour over that one for a while,
Landolf
"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM
Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com=20
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Because the cow has the "udder"
Something to lighten your day!!!
Lady Rixa
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From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:35:42 -0700
Yes, to run away when the cow started to kick. She was a mean one.
"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:32:51 PM
Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
Were you not using your own two legs?
>>> "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com> 01/11 2:30 PM >>>
My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the
'udder', where are the other two legs?
Pour over that one for a while,
Landolf
"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM
Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Because the cow has the "udder"
Something to lighten your day!!!
Lady Rixa
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From: Jeff Lowe <JLowe@mail.rhs.weber.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 14:55:08 -0700
CHARLENE CHABRIES wrote:
> Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
> Because the cow has the "udder"
>
> Something to lighten your day!!!
>
> Lady Rixa
You are soooo udderly cool! Thanks!
jeff
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From: Janice Hugie <jjhugi@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:31:09 -0700
With the guy using one as a 'peg leg' and the other as a club for the cow!
*LOL*
Yolande....(hehehehee)
>My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the
>'udder', where are the other two legs?
>Pour over that one for a while,
>Landolf
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>"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM
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>Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
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>To: CDC@lists.xmission.com
>cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
>Subject: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
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>Because the cow has the "udder"
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>Something to lighten your day!!!
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>Lady Rixa
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From: Janice Hugie <jjhugi@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 11 Jan 1999 23:32:34 -0700
No hobbles? (I believe thats what their called)
Yolande
>Yes, to run away when the cow started to kick. She was a mean one.
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>"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:32:51 PM
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>Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
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>To: cdc@lists.xmission.com
>cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
>Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
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>>>> "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com> 01/11 2:30 PM >>>
>My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the
>'udder', where are the other two legs?
>Pour over that one for a while,
>Landolf
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>"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM
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>cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
>Subject: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
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>Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
>Because the cow has the "udder"
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>Something to lighten your day!!!
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>Lady Rixa
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From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 12 Jan 1999 06:58:20 -0700
Yes, I hobbled her. I also tipped her over against the wall and tied her
tail to the wall. But when she finished her grain I had to be finished
milking or the fight started. Needless to say I got pretty fast at milking
her.
Landolf
Janice Hugie <jjhugi@xmission.com> on 01/11/99 11:32:34 PM
Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
No hobbles? (I believe thats what their called)
Yolande
>Yes, to run away when the cow started to kick. She was a mean one.
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>"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:32:51 PM
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>Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
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>To: cdc@lists.xmission.com
>cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
>Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
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>>>> "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com> 01/11 2:30 PM >>>
>My milking stool only had one leg. I we had only one cow and she had the
>'udder', where are the other two legs?
>Pour over that one for a while,
>Landolf
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>"CHARLENE CHABRIES" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us> on 01/11/99 02:07:13 PM
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>cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
>Subject: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
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>Because the cow has the "udder"
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>Something to lighten your day!!!
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From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" <slr4g@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 12 Jan 1999 15:11:37 -0700
>Yes, I hobbled her. I also tipped her over against the wall and tied her
>tail to the wall. But when she finished her grain I had to be finished
>milking or the fight started. Needless to say I got pretty fast at milking
>her.
>Landolf
Gee you had it worse than I did. My Grandpa's cow wouldn't come when it was
time so we had to look for her in a cowpie filled feild with great big
scary cows. My cousin used to cry when it was his turn. Then we'd put her
in the shed, tie her tail to her leg and pray she liked us because she had
a tendancy to step into the bucket if we didn't and we'd have green tinged
milk. Of course if she stepped in the bucket we'd have to get a new one
which made her even more "ornry."
Francesca da Bari
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From: Jeff Lowe <JLowe@mail.rhs.weber.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 07:55:06 -0700
"Merrill C. Pugmire" wrote:
> >Yes, I hobbled her. I also tipped her over against the wall and tied her
> >tail to the wall. But when she finished her grain I had to be finished
> >milking or the fight started. Needless to say I got pretty fast at milking
> >her.
> >Landolf
>
> Gee you had it worse than I did. My Grandpa's cow wouldn't come when it was
> time so we had to look for her in a cowpie filled feild with great big
> scary cows. My cousin used to cry when it was his turn. Then we'd put her
> in the shed, tie her tail to her leg and pray she liked us because she had
> a tendancy to step into the bucket if we didn't and we'd have green tinged
> milk. Of course if she stepped in the bucket we'd have to get a new one
> which made her even more "ornry."
>
> Francesca da Bari
THats why wen I was a kid we didn't milk cows, we ate them. (he,he.)
Jurgi
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From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 07:56:04 -0700
We eventually ate this one, too.
While I was at university I worked for the USU Ag Dept as an info systems
specialist. My tasks included tech support for the Dairy Sciences Dept. I
asked one of the researchers at the dairy what they did about cows that
exhibited neurotic behavior. The researcher told me, "We make them into
hamburger."
Landolf
Jeff Lowe <JLowe@mail.rhs.weber.k12.ut.us> on 01/13/99 07:55:06 AM
Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
"Merrill C. Pugmire" wrote:
> >Yes, I hobbled her. I also tipped her over against the wall and tied
her
> >tail to the wall. But when she finished her grain I had to be finished
> >milking or the fight started. Needless to say I got pretty fast at
milking
> >her.
> >Landolf
>
> Gee you had it worse than I did. My Grandpa's cow wouldn't come when it
was
> time so we had to look for her in a cowpie filled feild with great big
> scary cows. My cousin used to cry when it was his turn. Then we'd put her
> in the shed, tie her tail to her leg and pray she liked us because she
had
> a tendancy to step into the bucket if we didn't and we'd have green
tinged
> milk. Of course if she stepped in the bucket we'd have to get a new one
> which made her even more "ornry."
>
> Francesca da Bari
THats why wen I was a kid we didn't milk cows, we ate them. (he,he.)
Jurgi
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From: Jeff Lowe <JLowe@mail.rhs.weber.k12.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Armor links
Date: 13 Jan 1999 08:14:41 -0700
I found a great Armor links page which includes Illusions and
DarkHeart. I've looked into some and they seem to be ok. At least they
gave me a better idea of prices and made me feel better about the prices
I charge and the fact that I'm saving myself ,000's of $'s. I've
decided to make some more Armor and hopfully I've arrived at a good,
solid, usable pattern that will last me the rest of my SCA experience.
The links page is: www.io.com/~therion1/resources.html
If there is any of you who needs armor and wants to pay me to make it,
We can discuss it. With the completion of my new shop I am in the
position to do such things now.
Well, thanks!
Jurgi
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From: Jeff Lowe <JLowe@mail.rhs.weber.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 08:23:08 -0700
Olan G Mikkelsen wrote:
> We eventually ate this one, too.
> While I was at university I worked for the USU Ag Dept as an info systems
> specialist. My tasks included tech support for the Dairy Sciences Dept. I
> asked one of the researchers at the dairy what they did about cows that
> exhibited neurotic behavior. The researcher told me, "We make them into
> hamburger."
> Landolf
>
No wonder! (Light goes on in head. Small wattage, Nite-lite type with a
intermitent short.)
I always seem to end up with the neurotic hamburgers! They're the kind that
always seem to spill ketcup down your lap and the patty slides around between
the lettuce and tomato.
Jurgi
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From: Janice Hugie <jjhugi@xmission.com>
Subject: (cdc) Neurotic cows
Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:19:01 -0700
*ROTFLTDWTIME*
Yolande
>We eventually ate this one, too.
>While I was at university I worked for the USU Ag Dept as an info systems
>specialist. My tasks included tech support for the Dairy Sciences Dept. I
>asked one of the researchers at the dairy what they did about cows that
>exhibited neurotic behavior. The researcher told me, "We make them into
>hamburger."
>Landolf
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From: Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:33:19 -0700
Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough?
Rand
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From: "CHARLENE Chabries" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Laws of Work
Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:51:03 -0700
1.A pat on the back is only a few
centimeters from a kick in the butt.=20
2.Don't be irreplaceable, if you can't be
replaced, you can't be promoted.=20
3.It doesn't matter what you do, it only
matters what you say you've done and
what you're going to do.=20
4.After any salary raise, you will have
less money at the end of the month than
you did before.=20
5.You can go anywhere you want if you
look serious and carry a clipboard.=20
6.When the bosses talk about improving
productivity, they are never talking
about themselves.=20
7.If at first you don't succeed, try again.
Then quit. No use being a damn fool
about it.=20
8.Keep your boss's boss off your boss's
back.=20
9.Never delay the ending of a meeting or
the beginning of a cocktail hour.=20
10.To err is human, to forgive is not our
policy.=20
11.People who go to conferences are the
ones who shouldn't.=20
12.If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing
would get done.=20
13.When you don't know what to do, walk
fast and look worried.=20
14.When confronted by a difficult problem
you can solve it more easily by reducing
it to the question, "How would the Lone
Ranger handle this?"=20
15.No matter how much you do,
you never do enough.=20
16.The last person that quit or was
fired will be held responsible
for everything that goes wrong.=20
Have a Great Day at work everyone!!!
Rixa
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From: Janice Hugie <jjhugi@xmission.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 13 Jan 1999 09:49:58 -0700
Boo, Hiss, Boo, Hiss or is that Moo, Miss, Moo, Miss (hehehehehee)
Yolande
>Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough?
>Rand
>
>
>
>
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From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" <RMikkelsen@mail.lhs.logan.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Laws of Work
Date: 13 Jan 1999 10:18:22 -0700
You have been to my office, haven't you!
Rebecca
>
> 1.A pat on the back is only a few
> centimeters from a kick in the butt.
> 2.Don't be irreplaceable, if you can't be
> replaced, you can't be promoted.
> 3.It doesn't matter what you do, it only
> matters what you say you've done and
> what you're going to do.
> 4.After any salary raise, you will have
> less money at the end of the month than
> you did before.
> 5.You can go anywhere you want if you
> look serious and carry a clipboard.
> 6.When the bosses talk about improving
> productivity, they are never talking
> about themselves.
> 7.If at first you don't succeed, try again.
> Then quit. No use being a damn fool
> about it.
> 8.Keep your boss's boss off your boss's
> back.
> 9.Never delay the ending of a meeting or
> the beginning of a cocktail hour.
> 10.To err is human, to forgive is not our
> policy.
> 11.People who go to conferences are the
> ones who shouldn't.
> 12.If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing
> would get done.
> 13.When you don't know what to do, walk
> fast and look worried.
> 14.When confronted by a difficult problem
> you can solve it more easily by reducing
> it to the question, "How would the Lone
> Ranger handle this?"
> 15.No matter how much you do,
> you never do enough.
> 16.The last person that quit or was
> fired will be held responsible
> for everything that goes wrong.
>
> Have a Great Day at work everyone!!!
>
> Rixa
>
>
>
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From: "CHARLENE Chabries" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Laws of Work
Date: 13 Jan 1999 10:17:12 -0700
Is it government related? Then the answer my friend is been there done =
that.
Rixa
>>> "Rebecca Mikkelsen" <RMikkelsen@mail.lhs.logan.k12.ut.us> 01/13 10:18 =
AM >>>
You have been to my office, haven't you!
Rebecca
>=20
> 1.A pat on the back is only a few
> centimeters from a kick in the butt.=20
> 2.Don't be irreplaceable, if you can't be
> replaced, you can't be promoted.=20
> 3.It doesn't matter what you do, it only
> matters what you say you've done and
> what you're going to do.=20
> 4.After any salary raise, you will have
> less money at the end of the month than
> you did before.=20
> 5.You can go anywhere you want if you
> look serious and carry a clipboard.=20
> 6.When the bosses talk about improving
> productivity, they are never talking
> about themselves.=20
> 7.If at first you don't succeed, try again.
> Then quit. No use being a damn fool
> about it.=20
> 8.Keep your boss's boss off your boss's
> back.=20
> 9.Never delay the ending of a meeting or
> the beginning of a cocktail hour.=20
> 10.To err is human, to forgive is not our
> policy.=20
> 11.People who go to conferences are the
> ones who shouldn't.=20
> 12.If it wasn't for the last minute, nothing
> would get done.=20
> 13.When you don't know what to do, walk
> fast and look worried.=20
> 14.When confronted by a difficult problem
> you can solve it more easily by reducing
> it to the question, "How would the Lone
> Ranger handle this?"=20
> 15.No matter how much you do,
> you never do enough.=20
> 16.The last person that quit or was
> fired will be held responsible
> for everything that goes wrong.=20
>=20
> Have a Great Day at work everyone!!!
>=20
> Rixa
>=20
>=20
>=20
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From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 14 Jan 1999 06:56:59 -0700
What's wrong, Rand? Feeling a little cowed?
Landolf
Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us> on 01/13/2001 09:33:19
AM
Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough?
Rand
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From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com>
Subject: (cdc) Seige Engines
Date: 14 Jan 1999 12:18:21 -0700
Angus,
Are you interested in this?
Is anyone else interested?
Landolf
---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on
01/14/99 12:17 PM ---------------------------
"Robert D. Crisco" <rcrisco@itsnet.com> on 01/14/99 11:36:36 AM
Please respond to artemisia@server.umt.edu
cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
I am planning on possible recreating some catapults and other seige
weapons.
If there is a group in or near Utah interested, please contact me. I have
the plans and money,but we need a place to build it and launch it. I can
do
some of the wood work, but we need a good place to launch it.
'Let's kill the enemy before they even get halfway across the field'
William, Siege Engineer.
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From: "CHARLENE Chabries" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Thought for the Day
Date: 14 Jan 1999 14:02:51 -0700
Why do male deer need braces???
They have buck teeth.
Have a great day!!!
Rixa
PS Jurgi/Angus - I didn't bring my membership # to=20
work with me today. Be hopeful for tomorrow.
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From: Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:25:41 -0700
Don't steak your life on it.
Rand
Olan G Mikkelsen wrote:
> What's wrong, Rand? Feeling a little cowed?
> Landolf
>
> Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us> on 01/13/2001 09:33:19
> AM
>
> Please respond to cdc@lists.xmission.com
>
> To: cdc@lists.xmission.com
> cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
> Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
>
> Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough?
> Rand
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From: Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Seige Engines
Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:26:55 -0700
The Scots like to throw heavy things at people. Or, maybe using machines is
not allowed. Talk to Raven.
Rand
Olan G Mikkelsen wrote:
> Angus,
> Are you interested in this?
> Is anyone else interested?
> Landolf
>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on
> 01/14/99 12:17 PM ---------------------------
>
> "Robert D. Crisco" <rcrisco@itsnet.com> on 01/14/99 11:36:36 AM
>
> Please respond to artemisia@server.umt.edu
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <artemisia@server.umt.edu>
> cc: (bcc: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG)
> Subject: Seige Engines
>
> I am planning on possible recreating some catapults and other seige
> weapons.
> If there is a group in or near Utah interested, please contact me. I have
> the plans and money,but we need a place to build it and launch it. I can
> do
> some of the wood work, but we need a good place to launch it.
>
> 'Let's kill the enemy before they even get halfway across the field'
>
> William, Siege Engineer.
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From: "CHARLENE Chabries" <CCHABRIE@ci.logan.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Fwd: Fw: Help with a Laurel Project!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:30:18 -0700
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>Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 3:01 PM
>Subject: Help with a Laurel Project!
>
>
>>
>>Dear Friends,
>>I have received 1000's of e-mails and have never sent one out to
>>everyone. This is the exception. I love movies. I don't see a lot
>>anymore due to content issues. Please forgive me for sending this to
>>you if you are not interested in supporting this cause.
>>
>>All of you are Christian. Some of you are LDS and some are not. For
>>those who are not, the Mormon church has a magazine called "Church
>>News" and it recently ran an article about an LDS young woman who was
>>circulating a petition to encourage movie producers to make more
>>G-rated movies, including edited, G-rated versions of movies with
>>other ratings.
>>
>>If you care to, you can "sign" the petition on-line. Here's the URL:
>>http://home.sprintmail.com/~dbowman001/default.html
>>
>>Her cover letter is reproduced below. There's also a printable
>>version of the petition on the site, in case you'd like to circulate
>>it on paper.
>>
>>July l, 1998
>>
>>You and your family are sitting in the theater anticipating watching
>>the movie you've heard so much about. Your children look up at you as
>>they hear words that you have taught them not to say, the ten-minute
>>sex scene seems to never end as your whole family sits there squirming
>>in their seats. As a parent, what do you do?
>>
>>We all know the devastating effects pornography can have on us. The
>>Lord's name taken in vain is common place wherever we go. We're
>>becoming desensitized to everything, including violence and death. Do
>>we accept these things as if nothing can be done?
>>
>>One voice may not be heard, but if we all feel strongly about this
>>issue, we can all do a little and make a big difference. The more
>>names we get, the more impressive it'll be. MY GOAL IS A MILLION
>>NAMES!! With you're help, we can do it!!
>>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>My name is Elise Jenkins and I am doing a Laurel project for my
>>church. The purpose of it is to see how many names I can get from all
>>over the world on these petitions. I am asking everyone that is
>>willing to help, to copy this petition and cover letter, and give or
>>mail it to ten people who you think would be interested in helping by
>>mailing it to ten others and so forth. When I get all of the names,
>>I'll write to producers so that they can see the interest that there
>>is in good, wholesome family entertainment. I will ask them to edit
>>the movies and make a "G" rated version when possible. I am excited
>>about this project and believe that all of us together can make a
>>difference!!
>>
>>Here's what you can do to help:
>>
>>1. Electronically sign the petition now!
>>
>>2. Make at least 10 copies of this cover letter and petition.
>>
>>3. Keep the original for yourself. You may want to make an extra copy
>>for yourself in case you get more than 50 names!!
>>
>>4. Think of your friends and family. Who would be most likely to carry
>>this project out?
>>
>>5. When you finish with this, please send it back to me at this
>>address:
>>
>>Elise Jenkins
>>P.O. Box #102
>>Valley Springs, AR. 72682
>>
>>6. Email a link to this page to everybody you think might be
>>interested.
>>
>>The deadline for this to be in is June 30, 1999. There will be some of
>> you who will receive this close to the deadline. If there are a lot
>>of petitions coming in and if you need more time, contact me and I
>>will extend it.
>>
>>I appreciate all of your time and energy that you have and will put
>>into this!! Thank you so much! If you have any questions you can
>>e-mail me; or write me at the address above. Again, thank you!!
>>
>>Love,
>>
>>Elise Jenkins
>>
>>P.S. Financial reward is what makes producers decisions. Please
>>support family shows.
>>
>>________________________________________________________________
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From: macnbeach@juno.com (Carrie A. Beach)
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 16:58:11 -0700
Please, guys please. I'm becoming lactose intolerant. Ahhhhhhh...
Ciarrai
On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:56:59 -0700 "Olan G Mikkelsen"
<ogmikkel@regence.com> writes:
>What's wrong, Rand? Feeling a little cowed?
>Landolf
>
>
>
>
>Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough?
>Rand
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From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" <slr4g@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Seige Engines
Date: 15 Jan 1999 18:30:11 -0700
>The Scots like to throw heavy things at people. Or, maybe using machines is
>not allowed. Talk to Raven.
>Rand
>
Most Scottish games contest really are based on poor-man's siege
engineering. A great number of scottish traditions grow out of the
repression of the poor (economic status) scots by the far more wealthy
english.
From what I have seen there are more English personas in the SCA than
anything else. Another reason I would like to build siege engines and use
them to throw things. Maybe even Englishmen?
Angus
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From: Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Why does a milk stool only have 3 legs?
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:24:03 -0700
So, if you feed your cow only fruits, maybe you could get fructose. (and a
lot of cow diarrhea) Does that make you feel better? If not, maybe you
could stomach eight more silly puns.
Rand
Carrie A. Beach wrote:
> Please, guys please. I'm becoming lactose intolerant. Ahhhhhhh...
> Ciarrai
>
> On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:56:59 -0700 "Olan G Mikkelsen"
> <ogmikkel@regence.com> writes:
> >What's wrong, Rand? Feeling a little cowed?
> >Landolf
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >Don't you think we've milked this subject long enough?
> >Rand
>
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From: Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Seige Engines
Date: 17 Jan 1999 21:26:42 -0700
GERMANS RULE!!! Throw all the English you like. But you still did not answer
the essential question: is a Scottich seige engine an oxy-moron? or a regular
moron?
Rand
Merrill C. Pugmire wrote:
> >The Scots like to throw heavy things at people. Or, maybe using machines is
> >not allowed. Talk to Raven.
> >Rand
> >
>
> Most Scottish games contest really are based on poor-man's siege
> engineering. A great number of scottish traditions grow out of the
> repression of the poor (economic status) scots by the far more wealthy
> english.
>
> >From what I have seen there are more English personas in the SCA than
> anything else. Another reason I would like to build siege engines and use
> them to throw things. Maybe even Englishmen?
>
> Angus
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From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" <RMikkelsen@mail.lhs.logan.k12.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Thought for the day
Date: 19 Jan 1999 14:20:07 -0700
One useless man is a disgrace.
Two useless men become a law firm.
And three or more become a Congress.
Attributed to John Adams
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Subject: (cdc) Fwd: [STEPS] Re: Friends vs FRIENDS (OOP)
Date: 20 Jan 1999 16:50:37 -0800 (PST)
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In a message dated 19-Jan-99 09:03:01 Pacific Standard Time, MAMAJULIAN
writes:
SIMPLE FRIENDS VS REAL FRIENDS
ANYONE CAN STAND BY YOU WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT,
BUT A FRIEND WILL STAND BY YOU EVEN WHEN YOU ARE WRONG....
A SIMPLE FRIEND IDENTIFIES HIMSELF WHEN HE CALLS.
A REAL FRIEND DOESN'T HAVE TO.
A SIMPLE FRIEND OPENS A CONVERSATION WITH A NEWS BULLETIN ON HIS LIFE.
A REAL FRIEND SAYS, "WHATS NEW WITH YOU?"
A SIMPLE FRIEND THINKS THE PROBLEMS YOU WHINE ABOUT ARE RECENT.
A REAL FRIEND SAYS, "YOU'VE BEEN WHINING ABOUT THE SAME THING FOR 14 YEARS.
GET OFF YOUR DUFF AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."
A SIMPLE FRIEND HAS NEVER SEEN YOU CRY.
A REAL FRIEND HAS SHOULDERS SOGGY FROM YOUR TEARS.
A SIMPLE FRIEND DOESNT KNOW YOUR PARENTS FIRST NAMES.
A REAL FRIEND HAS THEIR PHONE NUMBERS IN HIS ADDRESS BOOK.
A SIMPLE FRIEND BRINGS A BOTTLE OF WINE TO YOUR PARTY.
A REAL FRIEND COMES EARLY TO HELP YOU COOK AND STAYS LATE TO HELP YOU CLEAN.
A SIMPLE FRIEND HATES IT WHEN YOU CALL AFTER HE HAS GONE TO BED.
A REAL FRIEND ASKS YOU WHY YOU TOOK SO LONG TO CALL.
A SIMPLE FREIND SEEKS TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS.
A REAL FRIEND SEEKS TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR PROBLEMS.
A SIMPLE FRIEND SEEKS WONDERS ABOUT YOUR ROMANTIC HISTORY.
A REAL FRIEND COULD BLACKMAIL YOU WITH IT.
A SIMPLE FRIEND, WHEN VISITING ACTS LIKE A GUEST.
A REAL FRIEND OPENS YOUR REFRIGERATOR AND HELPS HIMSELF.
A SIMPLE FRIEND THINKS THE FRIENDSHIP IS OVER WHEN YOU HAVE AN
ARGUMENT.
A REAL FRIEND KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT A FRIENDSHIP UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE HAD A
FIGHT.
A SIMPLE FRIEND EXPECTS YOU TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR THEM.
A REAL FRIEND EXPECTS TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU!
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From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" <RMikkelsen@mail.lhs.logan.k12.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) Re: Real friends
Date: 21 Jan 1999 09:02:45 -0700
This message has some fine sentiments, but I am afraid I can't agree
with most of them. I don't want anyone to read this "simple
friends vs real friends" and think they aren't a "real" friend
because they don't fit the "real" friend definition. And
remember, your spouse is your real friend, too.
Rebecca
> SIMPLE FRIENDS VS REAL FRIENDS
>
> ANYONE CAN STAND BY YOU WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT,
> BUT A FRIEND WILL STAND BY YOU EVEN WHEN YOU ARE WRONG....
>
A real friend will not stand by while you continue to do wrong. A
real friend will help you see what you are doing wrong and stand by
you as you try to change.
> A SIMPLE FRIEND IDENTIFIES HIMSELF WHEN HE CALLS.
> A REAL FRIEND DOESN'T HAVE TO.
>
This isn't true. My own sisters have to tell me who they are because
"hello" is simply not enough to be able to identify a voice. A real
friend *will* identify him/herself because they don't want you to be
deceived or have to waste the first moments of conversation trying to
figure out who you are talking to. (sometimes I have to ask if I am
talking to Olan or Kris because their voices are so much the same)
> A SIMPLE FRIEND OPENS A CONVERSATION WITH A NEWS BULLETIN ON HIS LIFE.
> A REAL FRIEND SAYS, "WHATS NEW WITH YOU?"
>
"What's new with you?" is the same as "How are you?" "What's
happening?" etc that deserve an "everything's fine" kind of answer,
when the person really wants to break down and cry. A real friend
will ask real questions about a friend's life.
> A SIMPLE FRIEND THINKS THE PROBLEMS YOU WHINE ABOUT ARE RECENT.
> A REAL FRIEND SAYS, "YOU'VE BEEN WHINING ABOUT THE SAME THING FOR 14 YEARS.
> GET OFF YOUR DUFF AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT."
>
A real friend will listen to the same complaints about the same
problems again and again and give the same advice again and again
until the person recognizes what they need to do to change. A real
friend will have a compassionate ear, and even if they feel like
saying "quit whining . . ." they won't, because real friends don't
run rough-shod over their friends feelings.
> A SIMPLE FRIEND HAS NEVER SEEN YOU CRY.
> A REAL FRIEND HAS SHOULDERS SOGGY FROM YOUR TEARS.
>
> A SIMPLE FRIEND DOESNT KNOW YOUR PARENTS FIRST NAMES.
> A REAL FRIEND HAS THEIR PHONE NUMBERS IN HIS ADDRESS BOOK.
>
I must not be a real friend or have any real friends because I don't
think *anybody* knows the names of my parents. Few people even know
where they live. Knowing someone's parents has nothing to do with
how well you know the person.
> A SIMPLE FRIEND BRINGS A BOTTLE OF WINE TO YOUR PARTY.
> A REAL FRIEND COMES EARLY TO HELP YOU COOK AND STAYS LATE TO HELP YOU CLEAN.
>
> A SIMPLE FRIEND HATES IT WHEN YOU CALL AFTER HE HAS GONE TO BED.
> A REAL FRIEND ASKS YOU WHY YOU TOOK SO LONG TO CALL.
>
A real friend will have the courtesy not to call you after you have
gone to bed, unless it is an emergency. A real friend knows your
schedule and knows that you get up at 4 am so a call after 9 pm would
be rude.
> A SIMPLE FREIND SEEKS TO TALK WITH YOU ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS.
> A REAL FRIEND SEEKS TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR PROBLEMS.
>
> A SIMPLE FRIEND SEEKS WONDERS ABOUT YOUR ROMANTIC HISTORY.
> A REAL FRIEND COULD BLACKMAIL YOU WITH IT.
>
> A SIMPLE FRIEND, WHEN VISITING ACTS LIKE A GUEST.
> A REAL FRIEND OPENS YOUR REFRIGERATOR AND HELPS HIMSELF.
>
A real friend may feel comfortable enough in your home to go to the
fridge without asking, but a real friend is also considerate enough
of your feelings to ask (even spouses should ask "are you saving this
bit of food for something?")
> A SIMPLE FRIEND THINKS THE FRIENDSHIP IS OVER WHEN YOU HAVE AN
> ARGUMENT.
> A REAL FRIEND KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT A FRIENDSHIP UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE HAD A
> FIGHT.
>
I certainly hope this isn't true. I would think that real friends
wouldn't need to fight at all.
> A SIMPLE FRIEND EXPECTS YOU TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR THEM.
> A REAL FRIEND EXPECTS TO ALWAYS BE THERE FOR YOU!
>
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From: "Rebecca Mikkelsen" <RMikkelsen@mail.lhs.logan.k12.ut.us>
Subject: (cdc) (Fwd) Winter Madness
Date: 21 Jan 1999 14:50:11 -0700
------- Forwarded Message Follows -------
Reply-to: artemisia@server.umt.edu
Greetings and salutations good gentles! Below is an event announcement for
Winter Madness.
Please note the date change (to Apr 2-4) and the requirement for
reservations...
In service to Artemisia and the Dream,
Tyndall
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Winter Madness IX
Apr 2-4, Liberty, UT
Shire of Gryphons Lair
Okay, so maybe it should be called Spring Fever, but yes, there will still
be snow and we can still play
in it! You are cordially invited to join the Shire of Gryphons Lair for a
weekend at their hunting lodge in
the gorgeous Wasatch mountains. Cast off your worries for a weekend away
from it all! If you were
there last year, you know how much fun this is; and if you missed it -
here's your chance to find out
how much fun winter can be.
We'll throw off the bonds of sanity to revel in the harshest of seasons,
including heavy and fencing
tournaments for shire defender, shield sledding, and a variety of other
outdoor activities. For the less
adventurous, there will be a variety of games and other activities indoors
by the fire, including a
weekend long bardic, as well as the usual frolicking and merriment. We will
be eating well, as Lady
Margaret Anne of Somerset returns to work her magic in the kitchen; with a
planned menu of
pancakes and sausage for breakfast, venison stew with bread and cheese for
lunch, and the feast is 4
courses: soup and bread, roast beef and vegetables, chicken and rice, and
dessert.
The site is scenic Camp Utaba near Liberty, Utah. We have access to the
large main lodge as well
as 10 bunk cabins, plenty of room for everyone. Address is 7005 North Fork
Rd, Liberty, UT 84310;
phone for emergencies is (801) 745-8236. The site is discretely damp, no
smoking indoors, and no
pets. Merchants are welcome. Indoor plumbing and showers are on site, and
the main lodge and
bunk cabins are heated. You must bring your own bedding (the cots just have
mattresses) and feast
gear. Site opens at 6pm on Friday and closes at noon on Sunday.
Price is $46.00 per person for the weekend, which includes use of site, 2
nights lodging, beverages
throughout the day, and breakfast, lunch, and feast Saturday and breakfast
Sunday. If you'd like to
attend for just Saturday, the price is $18.00 on-board (beverages, lunch,
and feast) or $10.00 off-board.
Children 6-11 are half price and 0-5 are free. You must submit PAID
reservations for this event if you
want lodging and/or food! Reservations must be received by the autocrat no
later than 29 Mar, send
checks payable to SCA Inc - Shire of Gryphons Lair. Please submit any cabin
sharing preferences
and dietary restrictions with your reservations.
Directions to the site: Take the 12th Street exit off I-15 (exit 347) in
Ogden and head east through
Ogden and up the Ogden River Canyon. At the top of the canyon, take a left
onto Hwy 158 and go
over the Pineview Dam. About 3.8 miles past the dam the road splits, take
the left fork (just follow the
signs for Liberty). About 0.5 miles past the fork there is a Maverick, take
a left turn there, again
following the signs for Liberty. About 2.9 miles later the road comes to a
T intersection, go left. Take
the next right (about 0.2 miles), 3300 East, following the sign to North
Fork. Go about 1.4 miles and
take a left turn onto 3100 E (just past the bridge), and follow that road
about 2.8 miles to the site.
For more information or reservations, contact the autocrat: Baron Colin
Tyndall de ffrayser, (801) 825-
2021, john.fraser@hill.af.mil; 2786 W 5545 S #9, Roy, UT 84067.
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From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" <slr4g@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: Re: (cdc) (Fwd) Winter Madness
Date: 21 Jan 1999 20:41:14 -0700
I Knew they could find something within thier own boundries!
=C5ngus
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From: Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) (Fwd) Winter Madness
Date: 22 Jan 1999 12:33:35 -0700
Amazing what can be done with incentive, ain't it?
Rand
Merrill C. Pugmire wrote:
> I Knew they could find something within thier own boundries!
>
> ┼ngus
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From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" <slr4g@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: (cdc) dearly departed members
Date: 26 Jan 1999 00:09:14 -0700
Greetings unto all those cdc'ers out there who no longer live within our
boundries. We have been discussing including you dearly departed ones (at
least phone #s, if not addresses) in our directory this year. I, Angus, am
assembling all that information (I have to keep a bunch of stuff for
heraldry records anyway, and since I am doing it on a database, I might as
well do addresses and phone #s too). If you would like us still in the
borders of the blessed land to know how to get in touch with you, send me
your info.
Thanks
Angus
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From: "Tiffany Dillemuth" <tdillemuth@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (cdc) dearly departed members
Date: 26 Jan 1999 10:41:43 PST
Angus,
Are you the contact person for the kingdom directory stuff?? I've
become the default person because I know the kingdom gal who's putting
it together... Let me know and I'll e-mail /all/ of it to you!
Camilla
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From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" <slr4g@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: Re: (cdc) dearly departed members
Date: 26 Jan 1999 12:34:12 -0700
>Angus,
>
>Are you the contact person for the kingdom directory stuff?? I've
>become the default person because I know the kingdom gal who's putting
>it together... Let me know and I'll e-mail /all/ of it to you!
>
>Camilla
>
>
>
>______________________________________________________
>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
I haven't been, but I would be glad to do so. I have to keep a pretty large
amount of information on everybody in the shire anyway, so I decided to
make a database. I might as well keep the directory info at the same time.
Go ahead and give it to me, especially so that I can be sure to get it set
up before you leave.
Thanks
Angus
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From: "Diane Perry (Melangell)" <melangell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: (cdc) dearly departed members
Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:55:37 +0000
> Greetings unto all those cdc'ers out there who no longer live within our
> boundries. We have been discussing including you dearly departed ones (at
> least phone #s, if not addresses) in our directory this year. I, Angus, am
> assembling all that information (I have to keep a bunch of stuff for
> heraldry records anyway, and since I am doing it on a database, I might as
> well do addresses and phone #s too). If you would like us still in the
> borders of the blessed land to know how to get in touch with you, send me
> your info.
>
> Thanks
>
> Angus
I'll go ahead and post this here for the benefit of anyone that wants
the info:
Rad and Diane Perry
HL Baldwin Giffard and L. Melangell ferch Rhys ap Owain
1845 Landess Ave
Milpitas, CA 95035
(408)263-8394
melangell@earthlink.net
Thanks for thinking of us.
Melangell
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From: "Olan G Mikkelsen" <ogmikkel@regence.com>
Subject: (cdc) BOD ruling on period fire-arms
Date: 28 Jan 1999 07:23:37 -0700
For anyone who has seen my reproduction wheellock pistols: Tell me what
you think of ruling no. 1.
Landolf
---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on
01/28/99 07:23 AM ---------------------------
Arthur Wagner <gillian@tss.net> on 01/26/99 12:25:28 PM
Please respond to gillian@tss.net
cc:
Greetings my brother, I thought you might be interested in this. It was
posted by our Earl Marshal to the Chivalry list today....
Hope all is well,
Gillian
The Davenports wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Here are the latest rulings from on-high.
>
> ....just so you know, it's not all my idea.....;-)
>
> Barak
> > ><<<<<<
> > >
> > >With respect to the Policy ruling on gunpowder weapons, the
> > board made three
> > >decisions, based upon the three sentences of your ruling:
> > >1. SCA missile weapons that are intended to reproduce
> > handheld
> > >period gunpowder weapons (hand cannon, pistols, muskets,
> > etc.) may not be used
> > >for armored combat melee activities. PASSED 6-0. Note the
> > small change from
> > >"Heavy Weapon" to "Armored Combat"--more in keeping with
> > Corpora and G&PD
> >
> > >2. Siege weapons that reproduce period cannon and other
> > carriage mounted
> > >weapons may only be used against fortifications and other
> > siege weapons.
> > >PASSED 4-3. A real discussion concerned "carriage mounted"
> > and whether
> > >wheeled ballistas, etc. wouold be covered--suggestion by me
> > to you: "and
> > >other carriage mounted gunpowder weapons ..."
> > >
> > ><<<<Okay, clarification time. This rules only applies to
> > gunpowder
> > >replicating seige weapons ( cannon, mortar, etc. ). It
> > does, I repeat,
> > >does not apply to other siege weapons ( balistia, catapult,
> > onager,
> > >trebuchet , etc ). This was a misunderstanding between me
> > and the Board
> > >and I will clarify it in my next report to the Board.
> > >
> > >3. Reproduction handheld missile weapons may be used in
> > period fencing
> > >activities after passing existing rules and procedures for
> > any new weapon.
> > >FAILED 2-4. Comments were all over the place on this. I
> > think that most were
> > >concerned about allowing gunpowder replica weapons in one
> > area and not
> > >another.
> > ><<<<<<
> > >
> > >Comar
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From: Randy Chabries <chabrir@wellsville.cache.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) BOD ruling on period fire-arms
Date: 28 Jan 1999 10:02:21 -0700
It has been my experience that it is easy to condemn things we do not know
about. How, on this little green earth is the gun that you have devised
more dangerous than the arrows? Or even a sword or any other weapon.
Personally, I feel these guns are safer than anything else we fight with.
Rand
Olan G Mikkelsen wrote:
> For anyone who has seen my reproduction wheellock pistols: Tell me what
> you think of ruling no. 1.
> Landolf
>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on
> 01/28/99 07:23 AM ---------------------------
>
> Arthur Wagner <gillian@tss.net> on 01/26/99 12:25:28 PM
>
> Please respond to gillian@tss.net
>
> To: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG
> cc:
> Subject: BOD ruling on period fire-arms
>
> Greetings my brother, I thought you might be interested in this. It was
> posted by our Earl Marshal to the Chivalry list today....
>
> Hope all is well,
>
> Gillian
>
> The Davenports wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Here are the latest rulings from on-high.
> >
> > ....just so you know, it's not all my idea.....;-)
> >
> > Barak
>
> > > ><<<<<<
> > > >
> > > >With respect to the Policy ruling on gunpowder weapons, the
> > > board made three
> > > >decisions, based upon the three sentences of your ruling:
> > > >1. SCA missile weapons that are intended to reproduce
> > > handheld
> > > >period gunpowder weapons (hand cannon, pistols, muskets,
> > > etc.) may not be used
> > > >for armored combat melee activities. PASSED 6-0. Note the
> > > small change from
> > > >"Heavy Weapon" to "Armored Combat"--more in keeping with
> > > Corpora and G&PD
> > >
> > > >2. Siege weapons that reproduce period cannon and other
> > > carriage mounted
> > > >weapons may only be used against fortifications and other
> > > siege weapons.
> > > >PASSED 4-3. A real discussion concerned "carriage mounted"
> > > and whether
> > > >wheeled ballistas, etc. wouold be covered--suggestion by me
> > > to you: "and
> > > >other carriage mounted gunpowder weapons ..."
> > > >
> > > ><<<<Okay, clarification time. This rules only applies to
> > > gunpowder
> > > >replicating seige weapons ( cannon, mortar, etc. ). It
> > > does, I repeat,
> > > >does not apply to other siege weapons ( balistia, catapult,
> > > onager,
> > > >trebuchet , etc ). This was a misunderstanding between me
> > > and the Board
> > > >and I will clarify it in my next report to the Board.
> > > >
> > > >3. Reproduction handheld missile weapons may be used in
> > > period fencing
> > > >activities after passing existing rules and procedures for
> > > any new weapon.
> > > >FAILED 2-4. Comments were all over the place on this. I
> > > think that most were
> > > >concerned about allowing gunpowder replica weapons in one
> > > area and not
> > > >another.
> > > ><<<<<<
> > > >
> > > >Comar
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From: Jeff Lowe <JLowe@mail.rhs.weber.k12.ut.us>
Subject: Re: (cdc) BOD ruling on period fire-arms
Date: 28 Jan 1999 13:19:14 -0700
I'm Appaled! (a pelled, a paul ed, app all ed)
Jurgi
Olan G Mikkelsen wrote:
> For anyone who has seen my reproduction wheellock pistols: Tell me what
> you think of ruling no. 1.
> Landolf
>
> ---------------------- Forwarded by Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG on
> 01/28/99 07:23 AM ---------------------------
>
> Arthur Wagner <gillian@tss.net> on 01/26/99 12:25:28 PM
>
> Please respond to gillian@tss.net
>
> To: Olan G Mikkelsen/IS/BCBSU/TBG
> cc:
> Subject: BOD ruling on period fire-arms
>
> Greetings my brother, I thought you might be interested in this. It was
> posted by our Earl Marshal to the Chivalry list today....
>
> Hope all is well,
>
> Gillian
>
> The Davenports wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Here are the latest rulings from on-high.
> >
> > ....just so you know, it's not all my idea.....;-)
> >
> > Barak
>
> > > ><<<<<<
> > > >
> > > >With respect to the Policy ruling on gunpowder weapons, the
> > > board made three
> > > >decisions, based upon the three sentences of your ruling:
> > > >1. SCA missile weapons that are intended to reproduce
> > > handheld
> > > >period gunpowder weapons (hand cannon, pistols, muskets,
> > > etc.) may not be used
> > > >for armored combat melee activities. PASSED 6-0. Note the
> > > small change from
> > > >"Heavy Weapon" to "Armored Combat"--more in keeping with
> > > Corpora and G&PD
> > >
> > > >2. Siege weapons that reproduce period cannon and other
> > > carriage mounted
> > > >weapons may only be used against fortifications and other
> > > siege weapons.
> > > >PASSED 4-3. A real discussion concerned "carriage mounted"
> > > and whether
> > > >wheeled ballistas, etc. wouold be covered--suggestion by me
> > > to you: "and
> > > >other carriage mounted gunpowder weapons ..."
> > > >
> > > ><<<<Okay, clarification time. This rules only applies to
> > > gunpowder
> > > >replicating seige weapons ( cannon, mortar, etc. ). It
> > > does, I repeat,
> > > >does not apply to other siege weapons ( balistia, catapult,
> > > onager,
> > > >trebuchet , etc ). This was a misunderstanding between me
> > > and the Board
> > > >and I will clarify it in my next report to the Board.
> > > >
> > > >3. Reproduction handheld missile weapons may be used in
> > > period fencing
> > > >activities after passing existing rules and procedures for
> > > any new weapon.
> > > >FAILED 2-4. Comments were all over the place on this. I
> > > think that most were
> > > >concerned about allowing gunpowder replica weapons in one
> > > area and not
> > > >another.
> > > ><<<<<<
> > > >
> > > >Comar
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From: "Carrie A. Beach" <macnbeach@juno.com>
Subject: (cdc) Re: Shire directory
Date: 29 Jan 1999 12:45:04 -0700
Carrie A. Beach (Ciarrai NicCeannadaich bean MacGriogair)
Jim L. Magruder (Seamas Connough MacGriogair)
2868 N. 150 W.
Ogden Ut. 84414
(801) 737-9498
macnbeach@juno.com
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:27:31 -0700 "Merrill C. Pugmire"
<slr4g@cc.usu.edu> writes:
>Greetings
>
>Could you good gentles please get me your address and other vitiae for
>the
>shire directory?
>
>thanks
>
>Angus
>
>
>
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From: "Merrill C. Pugmire" <slr4g@cc.usu.edu>
Subject: Re: (cdc) Re: Shire directory
Date: 29 Jan 1999 23:28:02 -0700
>Carrie A. Beach (Ciarrai NicCeannadaich bean MacGriogair)
>Jim L. Magruder (Seamas Connough MacGriogair)
>
>2868 N. 150 W.
>Ogden Ut. 84414
>
>(801) 737-9498
>macnbeach@juno.com
>
Recieved and entered.
Thanks
Angus