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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:17:36 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (abolition-usa) [lawsuit]

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:06:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Timothy Bruening <[e-mail]>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Re: Questions about U.S. nuclear policy

Here are some more questions to politicians about US nuclear policy,
although I'm not satisfied with the wording for question 2, about the ABM
treaty and BMD systems.  How can I word it better, or in such a way as to
not promote BMD systems?

I. What is your position on the CTBT?

II. The Clinton Administration is considering deploying a limited Ballistic
Missile Defense system (to defend against small nuclear attacks) and trying
to get the ABM Treaty modified to permit such a system, but Russia warns
that deployment of a Ballistic Missile Defense system could trigger a
renewed nuclear arms race.  In the interests of preventing a new nuclear
arms race, would you cancel the BMD system and promise to adhere to the ABM
Treaty?  What is your position on the ABM treaty and BMD systems?


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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:58:13 -0400
From: Bob Tiller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) RE: Failure to Ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban  Treaty

Any evidence of this that you might cite?

Bob Tiller




"Boyle, Francis" wrote:

> For what it is worth, I think there is a good chance that Clinton
> deliberately maneuvered the Republicans in the Senate into rejecting the
> CTBT so that the Democrats and Gore could use it against them in the 2000
> campaign, which they are now doing. fab.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nuclear Age Peace Foundation [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 7:38 PM
> To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: Failure to Ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty
>
> Statement by David Krieger, President of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation
> Santa Barbara, California   October 14, 1999
>
>  "In voting down the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT), the U.S. Senate
> acted with irresponsible disregard for the security of the American people
> and the people of the world.  It is an act unbecoming of a great nation.
> The
> Senate sent a message to the more than 185 countries that have signed the
> Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that the United States is not prepared to
> lead the global effort for non-proliferation nor to keep its promises to the
> international community.  I urge the American people to send a strong
> message
> of disapproval to the Senators who voted against this treaty, and demand
> that
> the United States resume a leadership role in supporting the CTBT and
> preventing further nuclear tests by any country at any time and at any
> place.
>     "The American people should take heart that the Treaty is not dead, and
> this setback should be viewed as temporary -- until they have made their
> voices reverberate in the halls of the Senate."
>
> For information on how your senator voted, please visit the Nuclear Age
> Peace Foundation website at:  http://www.wagingpeace.org
>
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:03:53 -0500
From: "Boyle, Francis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: FW: (abolition-usa) RE: Failure to Ratify the Comprehensive Test  Ban Treaty

- -----Original Message-----
From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 10:48 AM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: FW: (abolition-usa) RE: Failure to Ratify the Comprehensive
Test Ban Treaty
Importance: High


- -----Original Message-----
From: Boyle, Francis [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 3:18 PM
To: 'peter weiss'; [e-mail]
Cc: 'Nuclear Age Peace Foundation'; [e-mail];
'[e-mail]'; 'Peace 2000';
'[e-mail]'; 'TP2000'
Subject: RE: (abolition-usa) RE: Failure to Ratify the Comprehensive
Test Ban Treaty
Importance: High


Clinton deliberately sent that Democratic Senator out there on September 9,
saying he would stop all action on the floor of the Senate, which he could
do, unless the CTBT was taken up. One thing Clinton can do is count votes.
He knew full well  he did not have the votes to get the CTBT through. Ergo,
he precipitated the vote knowing full well he would lose. Notice that Al
Gore had a campaign video immediately ready to go nationwide right after the
defeat--that takes time, planning, money, and reservations with the
networks. It is simply Clinton/Gore disinformation  that he just put it all
together the night before. Clinton also lied in his press conference, saying
that there was no way under heaven that he could have predicted the
Republicans were going to schedule such a quick  vote, when in fact his
Senator made the vote inevitable as of September 9. Also, Clinton made no
effort to compromise with Lott  on the withdrawal of the treaty until it was
too late--just before the vote, when he called Lott to cover himself. Once
again, just read through the lines of the Newspeak Times and it is all
there. Clinton, Gore and the Democrats are now going to hammer the
Republicans over the rejection of the CTBT, which 80% of the American People
support, in order to get control of the Senate, House and White House. I
have not yet  seen the Gore video, but I am told it has a missile going off
in the background. Reminds me of the video Johnson and the Democrats did on
Barry Goldwater in the 1964 campaign  with the atomic bomb going off in the
background  and the slogan: "Just a heartbeat away." Johnson and the
Democrats defeated Goldwater and the Republicans in a massive landslide.
        Except when it comes to women, Clinton is smart, ruthless, devious
and cunning: Georgetown School of Foreign Service; Rhodes Scholar;Yale Law
School; Professor of Law at Arkansas Law School, etc. His capacity for evil
must never be underestimated.
Francis A. Boyle
Professor of Law

- -----Original Message-----
From: peter weiss [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 11:41 AM
To: [e-mail]
Cc: 'Nuclear Age Peace Foundation'; [e-mail];
'[e-mail]'; 'Peace 2000'
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) RE: Failure to Ratify the Comprehensive
Test Ban Treaty


Francis: As usual, you're a tiny step ahead of me in your analysis. Mine
is that it's typicl Clinton: Saying the right thing and doing the wrong
one. His problem is not talking out of both sides of his mouth; he
suffers from a chronic dysfunction between speech and action. Besides, I
predict that Gore and the dems are going to drop the issue as soon as
they see that it doesn't play with the public.

The media didn't do much better on this than the Senate, as witnessed by
the fact that the NY Times didn't see fit to print the attached piece
whch I sent it on Tuesday.

Thanks for the great job you did in Scotlan. Cora is leaving for Glasgow
tomorrow to make a post-Hague speech. She'll be meeting with Angie and
some of the others on Monday evening.

                                        Regards, Peter


Boyle, Francis wrote:
>
> For what it is worth, I think there is a good chance that Clinton
> deliberately maneuvered the Republicans in the Senate into rejecting the
> CTBT so that the Democrats and Gore could use it against them in the 2000
> campaign, which they are now doing. fab.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nuclear Age Peace Foundation [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 7:38 PM
> To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: Failure to Ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty
>
> Statement by David Krieger, President of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation
> Santa Barbara, California   October 14, 1999
>
>  "In voting down the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT), the U.S. Senate
> acted with irresponsible disregard for the security of the American people
> and the people of the world.  It is an act unbecoming of a great nation.
> The
> Senate sent a message to the more than 185 countries that have signed the
> Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty that the United States is not prepared to
> lead the global effort for non-proliferation nor to keep its promises to
the
> international community.  I urge the American people to send a strong
> message
> of disapproval to the Senators who voted against this treaty, and demand
> that
> the United States resume a leadership role in supporting the CTBT and
> preventing further nuclear tests by any country at any time and at any
> place.
>     "The American people should take heart that the Treaty is not dead,
and
> this setback should be viewed as temporary -- until they have made their
> voices reverberate in the halls of the Senate."
>
> For information on how your senator voted, please visit the Nuclear Age
> Peace Foundation website at:  http://www.wagingpeace.org
>
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:05:18 -0500
From: "Boyle, Francis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (abolition-usa) HOPE!: Trident2 Condemned in Scotland! PLOUGHSHARES THREE TO BE A CQUITTE D

Mailinglist 'Citizens Inspections to Prevent War Crimes'
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With the rejection of the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty by the United States
Government, the Clinton administration's expressed intention to gut the
Anti-Ballistic Missile Systems Treaty, and the military coup in the
nuclear-armed Pakistan, there is now some hope for our children. fab

- -----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 4:55 AM
To: Recipients of icc-info
Subject: Trident2 Condemned in Scotland! PLOUGHSHARES THREE TO BE
ACQUITTE D


- -----Original Message-----
From: David Mackenzie [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 11:41 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: PLOUGHSHARES THREE TO BE ACQUITTED


Trident Ploughshares

Press Briefing
20th  October 1999

PLOUGHSHARES THREE TO BE ACQUITTED
Trident Illegal Says Sheriff

Today, Wednesday 20th October, Sheriff Margaret Gimblett has decided to
instruct the jury at Greenock Sheriff Court to acquit Angie Zelter, Ulla
Roder and Ellen Moxley on the charge against them of damaging a Trident
facility in Loch Goil in June this year.

In her remarks the Sheriff effectively said that British nuclear weapons
were illegal. The defence had submitted that it had been established that
there had been no malice in the women+IBk-s action. They had been acting to
prevent a crime under international law and so had reasonable excuse. The
Sheriff should acquit the women.

Sheriff Gimblett said:
I have to conclude that the three accused in company with others were
justified in thinking that Great Britain in their use of Trident, not simply
possession, the use and deployment of Trident allied with that use and
deployment at times of great unrest, coupled with a first strike policy and
in the absence of any indication from any government official then or now
that such use fell into any strict category suggested in the International
Court of Justice opinion, the threat or use of Trident could be construed as
a threat, has indeed been construed by others as a threat and as such is an
infringement of international and customary law+ICY-.. The three took the
view
if it was illegal and,
 given the horrendous nature of nuclear weapons they had the obligation in
terms of international law to do whatever they could to stop the deployment
and use of nuclear weapons in situations which could be construed as a
threat.  .. I have heard nothing which would make it seem to me that the
accused acted with criminal intent.  .. Therefore I intend to instruct the
jury that they should acquit all three accused on charges 1 to 3 .. and the
first part of charge 4.

The court has been adjourned till tomorrow to allow the consideration of the
second part of charge 4 and for the jury to be instructed.

Contacts and Sources of Information: Greenock Office 01475 785893
(mobiles:07775711054 or 0378267833)
At other times : David Mackenzie 01324880744 (07775711054)
: Jane Tallents  01436 679194
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:41:48 -0400
From: Bob Tiller <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) 6th Grade Decided Low Green Belt!

To answer your question about November 6th --- no.

I am not even interested in reading about the subject.

Bob Tiller




Timothy Bruening wrote:

> Dear Peaceniks:
>
> Last night, I received a 6th Grade Decided Low Green Belt in ITC Taekwondo
> Karate at Rodness' Karate Center in Davis.  I and all the other students
> shook the hands of and bowed to the belt awarding committee (led by Mrs
> Rodness) and received our belts and certificates as everyone clapped.  Belts
> were awarded from Orange to 2nd Degree Black.  6 students received 1st
> Degree Black Belts.  The belt awarding committee untied their Red Black
> Belts and tied on their 1st Degree Black Belts.  Lorna Gill received her 2nd
> Degree Black Belt in the same manner.
>
> Brown Belts, Red Belts, Red Black Belts, and Black Belts had to break boards
> to pass their test.
>
> The ITC National Championships will be held in Sacramento on November 6th at
> the Sacramento Convention Center.  Would any of you be interested in seeing
> them?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Timothy Bruening.
>
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:44:16 -0400
From: Ellen Thomas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) 4 time-critical alerts

Hi, Marylia, hope you'll add to your action lists support of HR-2545,
Eleanor Holmes Norton, Lynn Woolsey, John Lewis, initial cosponsors, "The
Nuclear Disarmament and Economic Conversion Act of 1999" --
http://prop1.org/prop1/hr2545.htm.

You might be interested, in what I wrote to Rep. Lynn Rivers yesterday.
(Rivers is a co-sponsor of Woolsey's House Resolution 82, calling for a
global convention to abolish nuclear weapons.):

'What is important to understand about Ms. Norton's legislation is (a) it's
legislation, not a resolution, and so can achieve results; (b) it gives a
message to the world that the United States is finally ready to promise
that we will get rid of our nuclear weapons if everyone else will, and (c)
it presents a serious plan as to how this can be done: conversion of the
war machines.

'Shutdown and cleanup of nuclear industries and labs, and conversion of
other arms industries to humane purposes, would of course be expensive.
But U.S. taxpayers have been willing to spend nearly 6 trillion dollars on
nuclear weapons since 1945 (according to Brookings Institute).  Surely we
wouldn't mind spending a fraction of that amount on transforming industries
which produce missiles and bombs to mass-producing solar panels, windmills,
geo-thermal taps, biomass-to-energy plants, hydrogen fuel cells, etc.
These technologies exist. Within the fifty years scientists say it will
take to run out of fossil fuels, the United States could end its dependency
on oil and uranium/plutonium, create a vibrant, new, popular, and quickly
self-supporting industry, and profitably help "third world" nations develop
clean energy.  Isn't this a better solution than producing more nuclear
power plants / radioactive waste / weapons-grade uranium or plutonium?
Everybody wins!

'Please support Eleanor Holmes Norton's "Nuclear Disarmament and Economic
Conversion Act," and help the United States begin operating in good faith.
Please let me know you will?  Thanks!'

Ditto to TVC and all abolitionists.  I will leap with joy when the network
understands the important of this legislation.

Ellen Thomas

PROPOSITION ONE COMMITTEE
P.O. Box 27217, Washington, DC 20038 USA
202-462-0757 (phone) | 202-265-5389 (fax)
http://prop1.org | [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:05:27 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) Re: Questions about U.S. nuclear policy

Responding as the Socialist Party's Presidental candidate, I would, regarding
the first point, say that weak and even defective as  the treaty is -
permitting sub-critical testing - that it should have been passed. More
disturbing to me was the failure of the Clinton Administration to bring this
to the Senate two years ago. It is as if this was a low priority for Clinton.
The Senate rejection has done considerable damage to efforts to halt the
spread of nuclear weapons.

On the second point, I am bitterly opposed to any form of BMD. When I was on
staff at War Resisters League I wrote as long analysis of why such programs
are both provocative and unworkable. My basic technical point is that there
is not a code humanity creates which humanity can't break, not a defense
which can't be overwhelmed. This is not only part of our history as human
beings, but is pretty much written into the nature of human beings - what one
person can hide, another can find.

The real basis for the BMD is the monumental profits to military contractors.

Sincerely,
David McReynolds

<< Subj:     (abolition-usa) Re: Questions about U.S. nuclear policy
 Date:  10/20/99 3:07:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time
 From:  [e-mail] (Timothy Bruening)
 Sender:    [e-mail]
 Reply-to:  [e-mail]
 To:    [e-mail], [e-mail]

 Here are some more questions to politicians about US nuclear policy,
 although I'm not satisfied with the wording for question 2, about the ABM
 treaty and BMD systems.  How can I word it better, or in such a way as to
 not promote BMD systems?

 I. What is your position on the CTBT?

 II. The Clinton Administration is considering deploying a limited Ballistic
 Missile Defense system (to defend against small nuclear attacks) and trying
 to get the ABM Treaty modified to permit such a system, but Russia warns
 that deployment of a Ballistic Missile Defense system could trigger a
 renewed nuclear arms race.  In the interests of preventing a new nuclear
 arms race, would you cancel the BMD system and promise to adhere to the ABM
 Treaty?  What is your position on the ABM treaty and BMD systems?


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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:22:49 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (abolition-usa) 4 time-critical alerts

This initiative is endorsed by Global Peace Walk2000
http://www.globalpeacenow.org which will be carrying this vital message n=
ext
year also walking from San Francisco Jan15 to Washington DC Oct9 and to t=
he
United Nations Oct24 ending about two weeks before the US national
elections.  We urge all activists to do what they can to make sure nobody
gets elected next year unless they support this bill now.

From: Ellen Thomas <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) 4 time-critical alerts
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 1:45 PM

Hi, Marylia, hope you'll add to your action lists support of HR-2545,
Eleanor Holmes Norton, Lynn Woolsey, John Lewis, initial cosponsors, "The
Nuclear Disarmament and Economic Conversion Act of 1999" --
http://prop1.org/prop1/hr2545.htm.

You might be interested, in what I wrote to Rep. Lynn Rivers yesterday.
(Rivers is a co-sponsor of Woolsey's House Resolution 82, calling for a
global convention to abolish nuclear weapons.):

'What is important to understand about Ms. Norton's legislation is (a) it=
's
legislation, not a resolution, and so can achieve results; (b) it gives a
message to the world that the United States is finally ready to promise
that we will get rid of our nuclear weapons if everyone else will, and (c=
)
it presents a serious plan as to how this can be done: conversion of the
war machines.

'Shutdown and cleanup of nuclear industries and labs, and conversion of
other arms industries to humane purposes, would of course be expensive.
But U.S. taxpayers have been willing to spend nearly 6 trillion dollars o=
n
nuclear weapons since 1945 (according to Brookings Institute).  Surely we
wouldn't mind spending a fraction of that amount on transforming industri=
es
which produce missiles and bombs to mass-producing solar panels, windmill=
s,
geo-thermal taps, biomass-to-energy plants, hydrogen fuel cells, etc.
These technologies exist. Within the fifty years scientists say it will
take to run out of fossil fuels, the United States could end its dependen=
cy
on oil and uranium/plutonium, create a vibrant, new, popular, and quickly
self-supporting industry, and profitably help "third world" nations devel=
op
clean energy.  Isn't this a better solution than producing more nuclear
power plants / radioactive waste / weapons-grade uranium or plutonium?
Everybody wins!

'Please support Eleanor Holmes Norton's "Nuclear Disarmament and Economic
Conversion Act," and help the United States begin operating in good faith.
Please let me know you will?  Thanks!'

Ditto to TVC and all abolitionists.  I will leap with joy when the networ=
k
understands the important of this legislation.

Ellen Thomas

PROPOSITION ONE COMMITTEE
P.O. Box 27217, Washington, DC 20038 USA
202-462-0757 (phone) | 202-265-5389 (fax)
http://prop1.org | [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:20:06 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Radiation Alert-Comments due Oct 24 on NAS BEIR VII

**RADIATION ALERT-BEIR VII**  COMMENTS DUE OCTOBER 24
(Sign-on letter coming soon.)

The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) has again only slightly altered
the membership on its Radiation Committee: Biological Effects of
Ionizing Radiation or BEIR VII. The changes have done nothing to balance
the committee. THE PANEL IS STILL WEIGHTED HEAVILY IN FAVOR OF SAVING
THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY MONEY AT THE EXPENSE OF HEALTH AND SAFETY. The BEIR
VII Committee members are mainly scientists who claim low-dose radiation
is less harmful than currently presumed. We have not completed our
review of the work of Dr. Daniel Krewski, the sole addition to the
panel, but it is clear that he is not of the school that indicates
current risk estimates understate actual risks from ionizing radiation.
Thus, the panel remains as imbalanced as before.

The National Academy of Sciences still refuses to include any of a
number of credible scientists who have shown low-dose radiation to be
even MORE HARMFUL than current official estimates. The NAS still refuses
to release CONFLICT OF INTEREST forms or more complete resumes for the
panel members. At the last BEIR VII "public" meeting an appeal was made
to the panel members themselves to submit these documents voluntarily.
Only ONE panel member who was present at that meeting has given over a
more complete resume. Not one member has publicly revealed their
conflicts of interest.

THE PUBLIC HAS UNTIL OCTOBER 24, 1999 TO COMMENT TO THE NAS.
To do so, paste this link in your address browser location:

http://www4.nas.edu/webcr.nsf/open+for+comment/?OpenView

and select the BEIR VII Committee (about 11th on the list). You comment
directly on their web site. Include in your email message the BEIR VII
project # BRER-K-98-02-A.

The membership list  (sixteen permanent, one provisional) with
incomplete biographies (and no conflict of interest forms), can also be
found at this web address.

SEND IN YOUR COMMENTS:

1)  Tell them to DISSOLVE THE BIASED PANEL and start over in order to
COMPLY WITH THE LAW.

2)  Tell them you know the panel DOES NOT HAVE scientists whose work
shows radiation is more dangerous than currently assumed; and the panel
IS HEAVILY WEIGHTED with scientists who believe that radiation is less
dangerous than currently assumed.

3)  Request a 3-week extension of the comment period, release of
complete CVs and conflict of interest forms, so adequate review is
possible.

***We will be circulating a sign-on letter in a few days, but please
also comment separately to the NAS web site.***

The decision of these committee members will affect radioactive disposal
and cleanup sites, recycling of radioactive waste into consumer
products, nuclear power and weapons facilities' emissions,
decommissioning and a whole host of other radiation issues which affect
human health, not only in the United States, but overseas as well.  The
industry hopes that the BEIR VII panel will recommend relaxed radiation
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:25:15 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <[e-mail]>
Subject: (abolition-usa) SOURCE Deliberate Chinese embassy bombing by NATO

From: Ellen Thomas <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: SOURCE Deliberate Chinese embassy bombing by NATO
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 9:45 AM

Here's the BBC story from October 17 citing the London Observer about this
issue:

October 17, 1999 BBC  World

            Nato embassy attack
            'not deliberate'

            The bombing killed three people

            UK Foreign Secretary Robin Cook has
            refuted reports that Nato deliberately
            bombed the Chinese embassy in
            Yugoslavia during the Kosovo conflict.


                     The attack on 7 May, which
                     killed three Chinese journalists
                     and injured 20 diplomats, was
                     condemned by China at the
                     time as a "war crime".

                     Nato and the Allies have
            always maintained the bombing was a
            mistake.

            But the Observer newspaper reports that
            the embassy, in Belgrade, was taken off a
            prohibited targets list after Nato
            intelligence detected it sending army
            signals to the Yugoslav forces.

                      It was suspected it was
                      acting as a rebroadcast
                      station for Yugoslav
                      President Slobodan
                      Milosevic's forces, after
            alliance airstrikes destroyed his own
            transmitters, the newspaper says.

            But Mr Cook said there was "no truth in
            this" on BBC One's Breakfast With Frost.

            He said: "I know not a single shred of
            evidence to support this rather wild story."

            "It was a tragic mistake," he said, adding
            that it was a "delusion" that the US had
            been "sitting on the information but had not
            shared it".


                         A Nato spokesman later
                         said: "We are denying
                         this story. The bombing
                         was a mistake caused
                         by human error, nothing
                         else."

                         However, an unnamed
                         Nato intelligence officer
                         who monitored Yugoslav
                         radio traffic from
            Macedonia told the Observer: "Nato had
            been hunting the radio transmitters in
            Belgrade.

            "When the president's residence was
            bombed on 23 April, the signals
            disappeared for 24 hours.

            "When they came on the air again, we
            discovered they came from the embassy
            compound."

                      Mr Cook said after the
                      bombing in May that the
                      bomb which hit the Chinese
                      embassy had been aimed at
                      the nearby war-room of
            "Arkan" - Zeljho Raznatovic, the leader of
            the notorious Serb militia known as the
            Tigers.

            The report could cause diplomatic strain
            as the UK prepares to host an historic
            state visit by President Jiang Zemin of
            China.

            The visit, which begins officially on
            Tuesday with a ceremonial welcome,
            comes amid improving relations between
            China and the UK since the handover of
            Hong Kong in 1997.

            'Serious issues'

            Mr Cook remained upbeat about the visit,
            and said "limited" progress had been
            made recently with China over its human
            rights record, following "intense dialogue".

            He said there were still "serious issues"
            that needed to be addressed, but "we did
            secure the first visit to China by Mary
            Robinson, the UN Commissioner for
            Human Rights to China".

            He said the real reason for the state visit
            was because the Queen went to China in
            the 1980s and President Jiang was paying
            a return visit.

            He will be the first Communist leader to
            stay as a guest of the Queen at
            Buckingham Palace.

At 10:12 PM 10/19/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Ellen, I couldn't get any more of a source response than this from vincent
>but in my local paper there was an article  the day following that post,
ie,
>on Oct18, datelined London (AP) about a NATO denial of this story where the
>details were attributed to a British newspaper report and The Observer
>newspaper of London was cited as source of details.  I could not find on AP
>website my paper's article of oct18 of about 7colum inches but if you
>want/need it I will type and send it titled "NATO again denies deliberately
>bombing embassy".
>
>From: vincent scotti eirene <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Subject: chinese embassy/the source
>Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 8:15 PM
>
>
>from london
>
>The Guardian Front page Story index
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>
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>
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>         their news from television, most people are not well-enough
>         informed to intelligently exercise their franchise
>         in this democracy.
>                              Walter Cronkite, 1998
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ellen Thomas <[e-mail]>
>To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Deliberate Chinese embassy bombing by NATO
>
>
>>What newspaper is this from?
>>
>>Ellen
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 12:57:28   David Crockett Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>From: Nurev Ind Research <[e-mail]>
>>>To: A infoking <[e-mail]>
>>>Cc: Activist List Mail to <[e-mail]>; conspiracy theory
>>>research list <[e-mail]>; cyberjournal
>>><[e-mail]>; Dr Costas Giannakenas MD
>>><[e-mail]>; Elki M. Lahav <[e-mail]>; Joe
>Chamandy
>>><[e-mail]>; [e-mail] <[e-mail]>;
>>>Ralph McGehee <[e-mail]>; Robert D. Pates
>>><[e-mail]>; Ron Smith <[e-mail]>;
>>>[e-mail] <[e-mail]>
>>>Subject: Nato bombed Chinese embassy deliberately.
>>>Date: Sunday, October 17, 1999 8:20 AM
>>>
>>>Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist
>>>
>>>
>>>Nato bombed Chinese deliberately
>>>
>>>Nato hit embassy on purpose
>>>Kosovo: special report
>>>
>>>John Sweeney and Jens Holsoe in Copenhagen and Ed Vulliamy in Washington
>>>Sunday October 17, 1999
>>>
>>>Nato deliberately bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade during the war
>>>in Kosovo after discovering it was being used to transmit Yugoslav army
>>>communications.
>>>According to senior military and intelligence sources in Europe and the
>>>US the Chinese embassy was removed from a prohibited targets list after
>>>Nato electronic intelligence (Elint) detected it sending army signals to

>>>Milosevic's forces.
>>>
>>>The story is confirmed in detail by three other Nato officers - a flight
>>>controller operating in Naples, an intelligence officer monitoring
>>>Yugoslav radio traffic from Macedonia and a senior headquarters officer
>>>in Brussels. They all confirm that they knew in April that the Chinese
>>>embassy was acting as a 'rebro' [rebroadcast] station for the Yugoslav
>>>army (VJ) after alliance jets had successfully silenced Milosevic's own
>>>transmitters.
>>>
>>>The Chinese were also suspected of monitoring the cruise missile attacks
>>>on Belgrade, with a view to developing effective counter-measures
>>>against US missiles.
>>>
>>>The intelligence officer, who was based in Macedonia during the bombing,
>>>said: 'Nato had been hunting the radio transmitters in Belgrade. When
>>>the President's [Milosevic's] residence was bombed on 23 April, the
>>>signals disappeared for 24 hours. When they came on the air again, we
>>>discovered they came from the embassy compound.' The success of previous
>>>strikes had forced the VJ to use Milosevic's residence as a rebroadcast
>>>station. After that was knocked out, it was moved to the Chinese
>>>embassy. The air controller said: 'The Chinese embassy had an electronic
>>>profile, which Nato located and pinpointed.'
>>>
>>>The Observer investigation, carried out jointly with Politiken newspaper
>>>in Denmark, will cause embarrassment for Nato and for the British
>>>government. On Tuesday, the Queen and the Prime Minister will host a
>>>state visit by the President of China, Jiang Zemin. He is to stay at
>>>Buckingham Palace.
>>>
>>>Jiang Zemin is still said to be outraged at the 7 May attack, which came
>>>close to splitting the alliance.The official Nato line, as expressed by
>>>President Bill Clinton and CIA director George Tenet, was that the
>>>attack on the Chinese Embassy was a mistake. Defence Secretary William
>>>Cohen said: 'One of our planes attacked the wrong target because the
>>>bombing instructions were based on an outdated map.'
>>>
>>>Later, a source in the US National Imagery and Mapping Agency said that
>>>the 'wrong map' story was 'a damned lie'.
>>>
>>>Tenet apologised last July, saying: 'The President of the United States
>>>has expressed our sincere regret at the loss of life in this tragic
>>>incident and has offered our condolences to the Chinese people and
>>>especially to the families of those who lost their lives in this
>>>mistaken attack.
>>>
>>>Nato's apology was predicated on the excuse that the three missiles
>>>which landed in one corner of the embassy block were meant to be
>>>targeted at the Yugoslav Federal Directorate for Supply and Procurement,
>>>the FDSP. But inquiries have revealed there never was a VJ directorate
>>>of supply and procurement at the site named by Tenet. The VJ office for
>>>supplies - which Tenet calls FDSP - is some 500 metres down the street
>>>from the address he gave. It was bombed later.
>>>
>>>Moreover the CIA and other Nato intelligence agencies, such as Britain's
>>>MI6 and the code-breakers at GCHQ, would have listened in to
>>>communication traffic from the Chinese embassy as a matter of course
>>>since it moved to the site in 1996.
>>>
>>>A Nato flight control officer in Naples also confirmed to us that a map
>>>of 'non-targets': churches, hospitals and embassies, including the
>>>Chinese, did exist. On this 'don't hit' map, the Chinese embassy was
>>>correctly located at its current site, and not where it had been until
>>>1996 - as claimed by the US and NATO.
>>>
>>>Why the Chinese were prepared to help Milosevic is a more murky
>>>question. One possible explanation is that the Chinese lack Stealth
>>>technology, and the Yugoslavs, having shot down a Stealth fighter in the
>>>early days of the air campaign, were in a good position to trade. The
>>>Chinese may have calculated that Nato would not dare strike its embassy,
>>>but the five-storey building was emptied every night of personnel. Only
>>>three people died in the attack, two of whom were, reportedly, not
>>>journalists - the official Chinese version - but intelligence officers.
>>>
>>>The Chinese military attache, Ven Bo Koy, who was seriously wounded in
>>>the attack and is now in hospital in China, told Dusan Janjic, the
>>>respected president of Forum for Ethnic Relations in Belgrade, only
>>>hours before the attack, that the embassy was monitoring incoming cruise
>>>missiles in order to develop counter-measures.
>>>
>>>Nato spokesman Lee McClenny yesterday stood by the official version. 'It
>>>was a terrible mistake,' he said, 'and we have apologised.' A spokesman
>>>for the Chinese embassy in London said yesterday: 'We do not believe
>>>that the embassy was bombed because of a mistake with an out-of-date
>>>map.'
>>>
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