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Subject: abolition-usa-digest V1 #150
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abolition-usa-digest Monday, July 19 1999 Volume 01 : Number 150
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:24:40 +1000
From: FoE Sydney - Nuclear Campaign <nonukes@foesyd.org.au>
Subject: (abolition-usa) (FWD)efects of nuclear war/ De-Alerting Campaign.
dear People,
Bill Smirnow forwarded this, and I am forwarding it in turn just to remind
us all of our ultimate mission.
Two days ago, I put up an item, suggesting that in view of the real risks
of accidental nuclear war, outlined in BASIC's 'The Bug in the Bomb'
report, we really need to upgrade the importance of de-alerting campaigns
in our priority list.
The suggestion is I think, not before time.
There are some who suggest that de- alerting at this time should NOT be a
priority, as, paradoxically, if we do not suceed to get the US and Russia
to de-alert, our chances of doing so after Jan 1 will be that much less.
For that to be a consideration, we do however, have to make it to jan 1 -
and beyond!
I am not suggesting, and do not want to suggest, that if we don't succeed
to get the US and Russia to de- alert, that the scenario below will
instantaneously follow. But it's salutary to read it for the nth time.
What I understand to be the case from BASIC and FAS, is that there is 'an
unnaceptable risk of accidental nuclear war', if strategic nukes are not
taken off hairtrigger alert.
That's precisely why I have been circulating the 'Bill and Boris'
de-alerting letter, that's why i want as many organisations (esp
congresspeople) to sign it as possible, and thats why I think that for the
next six months - till the nightmare of accidental nuclear war is out of
the way - we should all press strongly for de- alerting.
I am aware that TVC, GRACE, Operation de-Alert, and The Boston de-Alerting
Committee have all tried to push this issue.
They deserve our thanks.
But for de-alerting to get anywhere, it needs a push from ALL of us - not
onlya letter from me, signed by a large number of good people, important
though that may be.
(But if you know anyone who is a congressperson, parliamentarian, trade-
unionist, or distinguished somebody, do get them to sign on the de-alerting
letter, that is an important way to help de-alerting!).
::::[2]::::
Forwarded by: smirnowb@ix.netcom.com
From: "Russell D. Hoffman" <rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com>
****************************
>A year ago in May, India surprised the CIA -- and nearly everyone
>else except, perhaps, Pakistan, who seems to have been nearly ready --
>by setting off several underground nuclear explosions. Then Pakistan,
>claiming self-defense, followed suit. But what would actually happen
>if India and Pakistan had a nuclear exchange?
>
>Most people in India and in Pakistan (and in the U.S.) probably do not
>know that as many as 9 out of 10 people -- or more -- who die from a
>nuclear blast, do not die in the explosion itself. Most people
>probably think that if they die from a nuclear blast, they will simply
>see a flash and get quickly cooked.
>
>Those within approximately a six square mile area (for a 1 megaton
>blast) will indeed be close enough to "ground zero" to be killed by
>the gamma rays emitting from the blast itself. Ghostly shadows of
>these people will be formed on any concrete or stone that lies behind
>them, and they will be no more. They literally won't know what hit
>them, since they will be vaporized before the electrical signals from
>their sense organs can reach their brains.
>
>Of the many victims of a nuclear war, these are the luckiest ones, of
>course.
>
>Outside the circle where people will be instantly vaporized from the
>initial gamma radiation blast, the light from the explosion (which is
>many times hotter than the sun) is so bright that it will immediately
>and permanently blind every living thing, including farm animals
>(including cows, sacred or otherwise), pets, birds while in flight and
>not to mention peasants, Maharajah's, and Government officials -- and
>soldiers, of course. Whether their eyes are opened or closed. This
>will happen for perhaps 10 miles around in every direction (for a 1
>megaton bomb) -- further for those who happen to be looking towards
>the blast at the moment of detonation. Even from fifty miles away, a
>1 megaton blast will be many times brighter than the noonday sun.
>Those looking directly at the blast will have a large spot permanently
>burned into their retinas, where the light receptor cells will have
>been destroyed. The huge bright cloud being nearly instantly formed
>in front of them (made in part from those closer to the blast, who
>have already "become death"), will be the last clear image these
>people will see.
>
>Most people who will die from the nuclear explosion will not die in
>the initial gamma ray burst, nor in the multi-spectral heat blast
>(mostly X-ray and ultraviolet wavelengths) which will come about a
>tenth of a second after the gamma burst. Nor will the pressure wave
>which follows over the next few seconds do most of them in, though it
>will cause bleeding from every orifice. Nor even will most people be
>killed by the momentary high winds which accompany the pressure wave.
>These winds will reach velocities of hundreds of miles an hour near
>the epicenter of the blast, and will reach velocities of 70 miles per
>hour as far as 6 miles from the blast (for a 1 megaton bomb). The
>high winds and flying debris will cause shrapnel-type wounds and
>blunt-trauma injuries.
>
>Together, the pressure wave and the accompanying winds will do in
>quite a few, and damage most of the rest of the people (and animals,
>and structures) in a huge circle -- perhaps hundreds of square miles
>in area.
>
>Later, these people will begin to suffer from vomiting, skin rashes,
>and an intense unquenchable thirst as their hair falls out in clumps.
>Their skin will begin to peel off. This is because the internal
>molecular structure of the living cells within their bodies is
>breaking down, a result of the disruptive effects of the high
>radiation dose they received. All the animals will be similarly
>suffering. Since they have already received the dose, these effects
>will show up even if the people are immediately evacuated from the
>area -- hardly likely, since everything around will be destroyed and
>the country would be at war.
>
>But this will not concern them at this time: Their immediate threat
>after the gamma blast, heat blast, pressure wave and sudden fierce
>wind (first going in the direction of the pressure wave -- outwardly
>from the blast -- then a moment later, a somewhat weaker wind in the
>opposite direction), will be the firestorm which will quickly follow,
>with its intense heat and hurricane-force winds, all driving towards
>the center where the radioactive mushroom-shaped cloud will be rising,
>feeding it, enlarging it, and pushing it miles up into the sky.
>
>The cloud from a 1 megaton blast will reach nearly 10 miles across and
>equally high. Soon after forming, it will turn white because of water
>condensation around it and within it. In an hour or so, it will have
>largely dissipated, which means that its cargo of death can no longer
>be tracked visually. People will need to be evacuated from under the
>fallout, but they will have a hard time knowing where to go. Only for
>the first day or so will visible pieces of fallout appear on the
>ground, such as marble-sized chunks of radioactive debris and
>flea-sized dots of blackened particles. After that the descending
>debris from the radioactive cloud will become invisible and harder to
>track; the fallout will only be detectible with geiger counters
>carried by people in "moon suits". But all the moon suits will
>already be in use in the known affected area. Probably, no one will
>be tracking the cloud. One U.S. test in the South Pacific resulted in
>a cigar-shaped contamination area 340 miles long and up to 60 miles
>wide. It spread 20 miles *upwind* from the test site, and 320 miles
>downwind. Where exactly it goes all depends on the winds and the rains
>at the time. It is difficult to predict where the cloud will travel
>before it happens, and it is likewise difficult to track the cloud as
>it moves and dissipates around the globe. While underground testing
>is bad enough for the environment, a single large above-ground
>explosion is likely to result in measurable global increases of a
>whole spectrum of health effects. India or Pakistan will deny
>culpability for these deaths, of course. The responsible nations,
>including my own, always do.
>
>But the people who were affected by the blast itself will not be
>worrying about the fallout just yet.
>
>A 1 megaton nuclear bomb creates a firestorm that can cover 100 square
>miles. A 20 megaton blast's firestorm can cover nearly 2500 square
>miles. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were small cities, and by today's
>standards the bombs dropped on them were small bombs.
>
>The Allied firebombing of nearly 150 cities during World War Two in
>Germany and Japan seldom destroyed more than 25 square miles at a
>time, and each of those raids required upwards of 400 planes, and
>thousands of crewmembers going into harm's way. It was not done
>lightly. And, they did not leave a lingering legacy of lethal
>radioactive contamination.
>
>In the span of a lunch hour, one multi-warhead nuclear missile can
>destroy more cities than all the incendiary raids in history, and the
>only thing the combatant needs to do to carry off such a horror is to
>sit in air-conditioned comfort hundreds or even thousands of miles
>away, and push a button. He would barely have to interrupt his lunch.
> With automation, he wouldn't even have to do that! The perpetrator
>of this crime against humanity may never have seen his adversary. He
>only needs to be good at following the simplest of orders. A robot
>could do it. One would think, that ONLY a robot WOULD do it.
>
>Nuclear war is never anything less than genocide.
>
>The developing firestorm is what the survivors of the initial blast
>will be worrying about -- if they can think straight at all. Many
>will have become instantly "shell-shocked" -- incapacitated and unable
>to proceed. Many will simply go mad. Perhaps they are among the
>"lucky" ones, as well.
>
>The firestorm produces hurricane-force winds in a matter of minutes.
>The fire burns so hot that the asphalt in the streets begins to melt
>and then burn, even as people are trying to run across it, literally
>melting into the pavement themselves as they run. Victims, on fire,
>jump into rivers, only to catch fire again when they surface for air.
>Yet it is hard to see even these pitiable souls as the least lucky
>ones in a nuclear attack.
>
>For the survivors of the initial blast who do not then die in the
>firestorm that follows, many will die painfully over the next few
>weeks, often after a brief, hopeful period where they appear to be
>getting better. It might begin as a tingling sensation on the skin,
>or an itching, which starts shortly after the blast. These symptoms
>are signs that the body is starting to break down internally, at the
>molecular level. The insides of those who get a severe dose of gamma
>radiation, but manage to survive the other traumas, whose organs had
>once been well defined as lungs, liver, heart, intestines, etc., begin
>to resemble an undefined mass of bloody pulp. Within days, or perhaps
>weeks, the victim, usually bleeding painfully from every hole and pore
>in their body, at last dies and receives their final mercy.
>
>But this too will probably not be how most victims of a nuclear attack
>will die.
>
>A significant percentage, probably most, of the people who die from a
>nuclear attack will die much later, from the widespread release of
>radioactive material into the environment. These deaths will occur
>all over the world, for centuries to come. Scattered deaths, and
>pockets of higher mortality rates, will continue from cancer,
>leukemia, and other health effects, especially genetic damage to
>succeeding generations.
>
>Nuclear weapons do not recognize the end of a war, or signed peace
>treaties, or even the deaths of all the combatants. They simply keep
>on killing a percentage of whoever happens to inhale or ingest their
>deadly byproducts.
>
>Some deaths will occur hundreds and even thousands of miles away,
>because low levels of ionizing radiation are capable of causing the
>full spectrum of health effects, albeit at a lower rate within the
>population. Not to mention the radioactive runoff from the rivers and
>streams that flow through the blast area and the area under the
>radioactive mushroom cloud's drift. It may carry its deadly cargo for
>thousands of miles, raining a fallout of death only on some cities,
>and not on others. It will land upon nations which had not been
>involved in any way in India's dispute with Pakistan. These nations
>will be mighty hurt and mighty upset.
>
>Nuclear weapons do not recognize international borders.
>
>Finally, an atmospheric blast of a nuclear "device" creates an EMP
>(Electro-Magnetic Pulse) which can be as large as Pakistan or even
>India -- perhaps even larger than India and Pakistan together. The
>higher the altitude of the blast, the bigger the circle of damage will
>be from the EMP. This is a very serious concern for those of us in the
>high-tech industries, such as myself.
>
>The Electro-Magnetic Pulse will electrify all sorts of metallic
>structures that are not normally electrified except by the occasional
>short circuit or lightening strike. This will be a lot like the whole
>country getting struck by lightening all at the same time.
>
>As computer chips make better and better use of "real estate", using
>more and more delicate electronic circuits, the more tightly-packed
>transistors, capacitors, diodes and resistors become more and more
>vulnerable to the EMP which will be carried into the chips via the
>connecting wires. The Electro-Magnetic Pulse is one of the reasons
>above-ground testing was stopped. (The other reason was that it
>became impossible to deny that the radiation dispersed by the tests
>was killing people.)
>
>Pacemakers, for example, may stop working because of the "hit" from
>the EMP. It will be quite something to see people in a thousand mile
>radius of the epicenter of the blast (or further) who are using
>pacemakers, suddenly drop dead, and all the computers permanently go
>down and all the lights go out, all at the same time. And commercial
>and private aircraft will drop out of the sky, since their sensitive
>electronics and fly-by-wire systems are not very well shielded from
>the EMP. These planes will then not be available for evacuation
>purposes, nor will they be available to air-drop food, water, morphine
>and cyanide, all of which will be in great demand throughout the area.
>
>A year ago people were dancing in the streets over this in both India
>and Pakistan. Why?
>
>Home plumbing systems and most other plumbing systems are good
>examples of large metallic structures that will suddenly become
>electrified, destroying the motors, gauges, electronics, etc. which
>are attached to the plumbing systems. More and more pumping equipment
>is computer controlled nowadays for efficiency. Imbedded controllers
>are becoming prevalent but as they do, the potential damage from the
>Electro-Magnetic Pulse increases dramatically.
>
>Train tracks will also carry the charge, as well as telephone wiring.
>All these things will have a nearly simultaneous surge of energy sent
>through them, igniting gas containers such as fuel storage tanks,
>propane tanks, and so on. Whatever doesn't blow up will at least stop
>working.
>
>My country has lived under the Russian and Chinese threat of nuclear
>war for many decades now, and it is not a pleasant thought. This is
>nothing to dance about. There is no benefit to having, or using,
>nuclear weapons.
>
>I think the world would be a better place if we all stopped and said,
>"I will not be a part of this. I do not need these weapons, for I
>would never commit this sin against my own children, nor against my
>neighbor's children, nor against my enemy's children, nor even against
>my enemy. I choose not to be a part of this madness."
>
>There is a greater battle mankind must fight than against each other.
>Humanity's fight right now, is for humanity's general survival despite
>depleted and poorly used resources, environmental degradation (there
>is none greater than that from a nuclear explosion), dwindling
>effectiveness of antibiotics and other wonder drugs, an uneven
>distribution of available food, knowledge and wealth, and against
>weapons of mass destruction.
>
>America had three excuses for her previous use of nuclear weapons in
>war, which we plead every time it is mentioned. First, we claim that
>we did not understand back then (over 50 years ago) all the ways
>nuclear weapons damage the Earth and her living inhabitants. Second,
>we claim that there was a war going on, and that had we not used these
>weapons, perhaps a million soldiers would have died invading Japan
>instead. But this second excuse is weakened by the knowledge that
>Japan was at that time very near collapse anyway. She was without an
>air defense, a sea defense, she did not have advanced radar, she had
>lost all her good pilots, millions of soldiers were either dead,
>wounded, captured, or uselessly stuck on nameless islands in the
>middle of the Pacific, and towns in her homeland was being firebombed
>on almost a nightly basis.
>
>Our third excuse was that both Japan (and definitely Germany) were
>building their own nuclear weapons, and DEFINITELY would have used
>them against us had they succeeded in developing "the bomb" before the
>war ended. The war could not go on forever. We were, indeed, running
>out of time.
>
>Perhaps these excuses are insufficient, but India and Pakistan hasn't
>even got them. India can, and therefore should, along with Pakistan,
>renounce nuclear weapons and the nuclear option. Perhaps her populace
>does not understand the full nature of the threat of nuclear weapons,
>and thus they are dancing in the streets, but I hope that her leaders
>do. However, I strongly suspect most of them are unaware of the
>things I have written about in this newsletter. Perhaps you, dear
>reader, will help me to educate them in this matter.
>
>Sincerely,
>Russell D. Hoffman
>The author is grateful for the assistance of Pamela Blockey-O'Brien
>and others in the research and preparation of this statement.
>***************************************************** *** Sources for
>more information about the effects of nuclear weapons
>***************************************************** For more
>information on the Electromagnetic Pulse (which can also be created
>with non-nuclear weapons) you might start with a visit to this URL
>(which is, actually, specifically about non-nuclear EMP devices):
>
>----- FROM: http://www.infowar.com/mil_c4i/mil_c4i8.html-ssi -----
>
>Computers used in data processing systems, communications systems,
>displays, industrial control applications, including road and rail
>signalling, and those embedded in military equipment, such as signal
>processors, electronic flight controls and digital engine control
>systems, are all potentially vulnerable to the EMP effect.
>
>Other electronic devices and electrical equipment may also be
>destroyed by the EMP effect. Telecommunications equipment can be
>highly vulnerable, due to the presence of lengthy copper cables
>between devices. Receivers of all varieties are particularly sensitive
>to EMP, as the highly sensitive miniature high frequency transistors
>and diodes in such equipment are easily destroyed by exposure to high
>voltage electrical transients. Therefore radar and electronic warfare
>equipment, satellite, microwave, UHF, VHF, HF and low band
>communications equipment and television equipment are all potentially
>vulnerable to the EMP effect.
>
>It is significant that modern military platforms are densely packed
>with electronic equipment, and unless these platforms are well
>hardened, an EMP device can substantially reduce their function or
>render them unusable.
>
>For a photo of the famous wooden-trestle electromagnetic pulse (EMP)
>simulator at Kirtland Air Force Base, New Mexico (with a B-52 bomber
>sitting on top of it):
>http://www.brook.edu/FP/projects/nucwcost/trestle.htm
>
>Visit the Federation of American Scientists' web site for a more
>detailed discussion of the effect of nuclear weapons:
>http://www.fas.org/nuke/hew/Nwfaq/Nfaq5.html
>
>In 1962 the Department of the Air Force produced Air Force Pamphlet
>No. 136-1-3, by order of the Secretary of the Air Force Curtis E.
>LeMay. Titled The Effects of Nuclear Weapons, it was published by the
>United States Atomic Energy Commission in April of that year and was a
>revision of the 1957 edition of the same title. In the forward by
>Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara and the chairman of the Atomic
>Energy Commission Glenn T. Seaborg, we are told, "There is a need for
>widespread public understanding of the best information available on
>the effects of nuclear weapons. The purpose of this book is to
>present as accurately as possible, within the limits of national
>security, a comprehensive summary of this information."
>
>In other words, fiction where necessary. However, there are several
>interesting statements to STOP CASSINI readers:
>
>----- FROM "THE EFFECTS OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS" ----
> >From Paragraph 11.197:
>"...in the great majority of cases, mutations have deleterious effects
>of some kind."
>
>Paragraph 11.218:
>"Hemorrhage is a common phenomenon after radiation exposure because
>the megakaryocytes, from which the blood platelets necessary for
>clotting are formed, are destroyed and the platelets are not
>replenished. If hemorrhage occurs in vital centers, death can result.
> Often the hemorrhages are so widespread that severe anemia and death
>are the consequences."
>
>Paragraph 11.219:
>"The loss of the epithelial coverings of tissues, together with the
>loss of white cells and antibodies, lowers the resistance of the body
>to bacterial and viral invasion. if death does not take place in the
>first few days after a large dose of radiation, bacterial invasion of
>the blood stream usually occurs and the patient dies of infection.
>Often such infections are caused by bacteria which, under normal
>circumstances, are harmless."
>
>This newsletter is free and is not distributed for profit.
>To subscribe, simply email the editor at
>rhoffman@animatedsoftware.com and state:
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>For more info:
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>
>
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>
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:29:10 +1000
From: FoE Sydney - Nuclear Campaign <nonukes@foesyd.org.au>
Subject: (abolition-usa) CAN ANYONE HELP? CONGRESSIONAL SIGNATURES FOR DE-ALERTING LETTER
Dear People,
I am looking for people who might be able to get congressional signatures
for the Y2K De-Alerting letter that I have been circulating.
It isn't possible to do so via congressional email because all that happens
is that you are auto-spammed by the autoresponders.
There is no human response whatsoever, and it is hopeless.
As I am physically located in Australia it is hardly possible to do it by
fax and phone.
I need someone who is willing to take on the task of getting as many
congresional signatures to this important letter, well before the date of
Aug 6th, when it is to be released to media.
I hope to hear from someone soon!
I am sending up the letter be separate email.
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:13:42 +0100
From: "Janet Bloomfield" <jbloomfield@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) Major Barbara data
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Dear Abolition Friends in the USA,
I hope it will acceptable for a Brit to add some thoughts to the =
discussion on engaging with decision makers involved in the US nuclear =
complex. Some of you may know of the work of the Oxford Research Group =
which has been doing this, in the spirit that Lachlan advocates, since =
1982. If you are interested in this approach please check out our web =
site at www.oxfrg.demon.co.uk.
We are currently working on putting the details of key nuclear decision =
makers on the web and would very much like to know if people such as =
yourselves would find this a useful resource. Please let either myself =
or my colleague Paul Ingram know on org@oxfrg.demon.co.uk We are also =
hoping to produce a basic Handbook on Dialogue for use by grassroots =
groups as well.
I look forward to seeing this work develop in the US. Good luck.
Yours in peace,
Janet Bloomfield.=20
Janet Bloomfield
25 Farmadine
Saffron Walden
Essex
CB11 3HR
England
Tel/Fax: +44 (0)1799 516189
e-mail: jbloomfield@gn.apc.org
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Lachlan Forrow=20
To: abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com=20
Sent: 16 July 1999 23:50
Subject: RE: (abolition-usa) Major Barbara data
Thanks, Andrew. This kind of information is very helpful and should =
be widely publicized. I do hope that when we think of "odious weapons =
merchants" we keep in mind that many of the people who lead even the top =
50-100 nuclear weapons contractors do not necessarily have very =
different core values from those of us on this list. We need strategies =
that not only "speak truth to power" but also keep ourselves open to the =
possibility that engagement in dialogue in a spirit of nonviolence (i.e. =
not attacking them personally as much as confronting them in ways that =
engage their own reflection) with some of the most important people =
involved in these corporations may bear important fruit. This is not =
only because the spirit that we bring to our antinuclear work is crucial =
to our own integrity. I also believe, for sheerly practical reasons, =
that if we approach this as a "war" against this "enemy" we are not =
likely to "win" in the foreseeable future, and nuclear abolition has =
special urgency, as we all understand. "Hate the sin; love the sinner", =
or something like that.
=20
--LF
=20
"...There is no greater misfortune=20
than underestimating your enemy.
Underestimating your enemy
mean thinking that he is evil.
Thus you...become an enemy yourself."
=20
Tao te Ching, 69
Stephen Mitchell translation
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com =
[mailto:owner-abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of California =
Peace Action
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 1999 2:54 AM
To: abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com
Subject: (abolition-usa) Major Barbara data
Hello to the fine people of the Abolition list serve,
I think the idea that Bob Kinsey just put out here is a great one. =
The peace community needs to publicize the fact that these horrible =
decisions to endanger humanity and squander resources are not beyond the =
control of human intervention, but in fact the result of human =
intervention.=20
Major Barbara #1 (in terms of nuclear weapons) is the Center for =
Security Policy. Started in 1988 by Frank Gaffney (Reagan Pentagon =
appointee) this think tank recieved over $2 million in corporate =
donations from companies like Lockheed Martin and Boeing which profit =
from Star Wars. The board members include 5 Lockheed Martin Execs, and =
Edward Teller. These folks are the major power behind the Star Wars =
lobby.
I got this information from an article by William Hartung of the =
World Policy Institute. I'm sure they have a lot of the information you =
seek. I imagine Council for a Livable World also has a lot of =
information on odious weapons merchants. Below are two lists: the top =
100 military contractors , and the top fifty nuclear contractors. =
Unfortunately they are in a rather unweildy format, but it's a start. I =
hope this helps get the project under way. I'd love to kept appraised of =
any developments of this.
Sincerely,
Andrew Page
Northern California Political Director
California Peace Action
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dear Abolition Friends in the USA,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I hope it will acceptable for a Brit to add some =
thoughts to=20
the discussion on engaging with decision makers involved in the US =
nuclear=20
complex. Some of you may know of the work of the Oxford Research Group =
which has=20
been doing this, in the spirit that Lachlan advocates, since 1982. If =
you are=20
interested in this approach please check out our web site at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.oxfrg.demon.co.uk">www.oxfrg.demon.co.uk</A>.</FONT></=
DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We are currently working on putting the details of =
key nuclear=20
decision makers on the web and would very much like to know if people =
such as=20
yourselves would find this a useful resource. Please let either myself =
or my=20
colleague Paul Ingram know on <A=20
href=3D"mailto:org@oxfrg.demon.co.uk">org@oxfrg.demon.co.uk</A> We =
are also=20
hoping to produce a basic Handbook on Dialogue for use by grassroots =
groups as=20
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I look forward to seeing this work develop in the =
US. Good=20
luck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Yours in peace,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Janet Bloomfield.</FONT> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Janet Bloomfield<BR>25 Farmadine<BR>Saffron Walden<BR>Essex<BR>CB11 =
3HR<BR>England<BR>Tel/Fax: +44 (0)1799 516189<BR>e-mail: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:jbloomfield@gn.apc.org">jbloomfield@gn.apc.org</A></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A href=3D"mailto:Lforrow@igc.org" title=3DLforrow@igc.org>Lachlan =
Forrow</A>=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
href=3D"mailto:abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com"=20
=
title=3Dabolition-usa@lists.xmission.com>abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com=
</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 16 July 1999 23:50</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: (abolition-usa) =
Major=20
Barbara data</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D780053522-16071999>Thanks, =
Andrew. This=20
kind of information is very helpful and should be widely =
publicized. I=20
do hope that when we think of "odious weapons merchants" we keep in =
mind that=20
many of the people who lead even the top 50-100 nuclear weapons =
contractors do=20
not necessarily have very different core values from those of us on =
this=20
list. We need strategies that not only "speak truth to power" =
but also=20
keep ourselves open to the possibility that engagement in =
dialogue in a=20
spirit of nonviolence (i.e. not attacking them personally as much as=20
confronting them in ways that engage their own reflection) with some =
of the=20
most important people involved in these corporations may bear =
important=20
fruit. This is not only because the spirit that we bring to our=20
antinuclear work is crucial to our own integrity. I also=20
believe, for sheerly practical reasons, that if we approach this =
as a=20
"war" against this "enemy" we are not likely to "win" in the =
foreseeable=20
future, and nuclear abolition has special urgency, as we all =
understand. =20
"Hate the sin; love the sinner", or something like =
that.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D780053522-16071999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D780053522-16071999>--LF</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D780053522-16071999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D780053522-16071999>"...There is no =
greater=20
misfortune </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D780053522-16071999>than =
underestimating your=20
enemy.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D780053522-16071999>Underestimating =
your=20
enemy</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D780053522-16071999>mean thinking =
that he is=20
evil.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D780053522-16071999>Thus=20
you...</SPAN></FONT><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D780053522-16071999>become an=20
enemy yourself."</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D780053522-16071999></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D780053522-16071999>Tao te =
Ching, =20
69</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D780053522-16071999>Stephen Mitchell=20
translation</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=3Dleft class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
owner-abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com=20
[mailto:owner-abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com]<B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>California Peace Action<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 17, 1999 =
2:54=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
(abolition-usa) Major Barbara data<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>Hello to the =
fine=20
people of the Abolition list serve,<BR><BR>I think the idea that Bob =
Kinsey=20
just put out here is a great one. The peace community needs to =
publicize the=20
fact that these horrible decisions to endanger humanity and squander =
resources are not beyond the control of human intervention, but in =
fact the=20
result of human intervention. <BR>Major Barbara #1 (in terms of =
nuclear=20
weapons) is the Center for Security Policy. Started in 1988 by Frank =
Gaffney=20
(Reagan Pentagon appointee) this think tank recieved over $2 million =
in=20
corporate donations from companies like Lockheed Martin and Boeing =
which=20
profit from Star Wars. The board members include 5 Lockheed Martin =
Execs,=20
and Edward Teller. These folks are the major power behind the Star =
Wars=20
lobby.<BR>I got this information from an article by William Hartung =
of the=20
World Policy Institute. I'm sure they have a lot of the information =
you=20
seek. I imagine Council for a Livable World also has a lot of =
information on=20
odious weapons merchants. Below are two lists: the top 100 military=20
contractors , and the top fifty nuclear contractors. Unfortunately =
they are=20
in a rather unweildy format, but it's a start. I hope this helps get =
the=20
project under way. I'd love to kept appraised of any developments of =
this.<BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR>Andrew Page<BR>Northern California =
Political=20
Director<BR>California Peace=20
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Action<BR>_______________________________________________________________=
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:32:00 +0100
From: "Janet Bloomfield" <jbloomfield@gn.apc.org>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Re: LETS GET DE-ALERT CAMPAIGN GOING
Dear Friends,
I really appreciate the work that John and others are doing on the whole
de-alerting question.
I do have a few question I want to raise about how this fits into the
context of the wider abolition goal.
This could be a huge breakthrough point for us because de-alerting, whilst
being a step related to safety and the possibility of Y2K problems, is also
a huge challenge to the whole deterrence mind set. I think that is why it is
being resisted so much by decision makers.
What do the rest of you think about this point? I would be interested to
know.
Yours in peace,
Janet Bloomfield
Janet Bloomfield
25 Farmadine
Saffron Walden
Essex
CB11 3HR
England
Tel/Fax: +44 (0)1799 516189
e-mail: jbloomfield@gn.apc.org
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:53:45 EDT
From: Dealert99@aol.com
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) Re: LETS GET DE-ALERT CAMPAIGN GOING
Janet,
A good question! The whole insane system of "launch-on-warning" stems from
the idea that if we wait until we are struck by an incoming missile attack,
our missiles will be destroyed before we can use them in a counter-attack. In
other words, "use them or lose them". This has led to our present alert with
just minutes between detection of a possible attack and a decision to
retaliate. This is absolutely absurd! Our submarine missile force cannot be
targeted and will be able to retaliate fully and adequately after any attack,
even if we have no land-based missiles left. The Russians know and understand
this, so deterrence would be maintained even without a "launch-on-warning"
hair-trigger alert. It is a relic of the cold war that must be discarded. WE
HAVE ONLY 165 DAYS BEFORE Y2K TO DO IT!
Please note that President Clinton can bring about de-alerting with an
Executive Order without congressional approval! In the words of our petition,
we asked: "We respectfully petition the President of the United States of
America to initiate by means of an Executive Order a phased 'de-alerting'
with all nuclear powers of all nuclear missiles, to be completed by the end
of 1999." So Clinton is the ONE person we have to convince!
Since our media are deaf, dumb, and blind to the situation, please do what
you can to awaken them!
Congratulations to Britain for de-alerting their nuclear missiles!
After we have achieved de-alerting, we will join you in the Abolition 2000
campaign. General George Lee Butler, Former Commander, U.S. Strategic Air
Command, has called de-alerting "Abolition Lite", a necessary first step in
the process.
Peace and Shalom!
Bill Santelmann
Metro-Boston Committee to De-Alert Nuclear Weapons
dealert99@aol.com
In a message dated 1999/07/19 8:02:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jbloomfield@gn.apc.org writes:
> Dear Friends,
> I really appreciate the work that John and others are doing on the whole
> de-alerting question.
> I do have a few question I want to raise about how this fits into the
> context of the wider abolition goal.
> This could be a huge breakthrough point for us because de-alerting, whilst
> being a step related to safety and the possibility of Y2K problems, is
also
> a huge challenge to the whole deterrence mind set. I think that is why it
is
> being resisted so much by decision makers.
> What do the rest of you think about this point? I would be interested to
> know.
> Yours in peace,
> Janet Bloomfield
>
> Janet Bloomfield
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