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From: owner-abolition-usa-digest@lists.xmission.com (abolition-usa-digest)
To: abolition-usa-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: abolition-usa-digest V1 #16
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abolition-usa-digest Sunday, September 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 016
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 23:10:58 -0400
From: Peace through Reason <prop1@prop1.org>
Subject: (abolition-usa) US Help Needed: Carriers
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:31:03 -0900 (PDT)
Reply-To: kristan@unm.edu, prop1@prop1.org
Sender: owner-nukenet@envirolink.org
From: Kristan Cockerill <kristan@unm.edu>
Subject: Carriers
Hello,
I'm a grad student in New Mexico and am trying to find out how many
carriers there are that are licensed/approved to carry radioactive
materials or waste for DOE.
Any ideas on where this info might be published??
Kristan Cockerill
University of New Mexico
Hello,
I'm a grad student in New Mexico and am trying to find out how many
carriers there are that are licensed/approved to carry radioactive
materials or waste for DOE.
Any ideas on where this info might be published??
Kristan Cockerill
University of New Mexico
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:24:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: ilpeace@igc.apc.org
Subject: (abolition-usa) travel and lodging tips for Chicago abolition events Oct. 9 & 10
>Dear Friends:
Here are some travel and lodging tips for folks coming to Chicago for the
October 9 organizing meeting on the new national abolition campaign and the
October 10 conference on abolition featuring author Jonathan Schell and
former Senator Alan Cranston entitled "Bottling the Genie: Building the
Movement to Abolish Nuclear Weapons":
>
>If you are flying into Chicago, both O'Hare and Midway airports are linked
by public transit to downtown Chicago, where our meetings will be held. If
you take the train, Union Station is about a $5 taxi ride from the DePaul
Center, our meeting site for both days. If you drive, there are parking lots
within a few blocks of the DePaul Center. Parking lots and transit stops
are marked on the map in the middle panel of the "Bottling the Genie"
October 10 conference brochure. (If you didn't get a brochure but want one,
call us at 312/939-3316.)
>
>Lodging: Hotel space in downtown Chicago for October 8,9,and 10 is tight
because the Chicago Marathon is Sunday the 11th and there is a big machine
industry convention that weekend. So you should make your hotel
reservations ASAP. Here are some suggestions:
>
>Best bet: Travelodge: 312/427-8000 or 800/578-7878, 65 East Harrison St.,
between Michigan and Wabash Avenues, only 4 blocks from the DePaul Center.
Single rooms $79 per night, doubles $89.
>
>Ramada Congress Hotel: 312/427-3800, 520 S. Michigan Ave., 3 blocks from
our meeting site. We're negotiating with them for a group rate, which will
probably be between $129 and $165/night for double rooms.
>
International Conference Center, 4750 N. Sheridan Rd. This is a no-frills
but nice conference facility for non-profits that has cheap dormitory-type
rooms for between $14 and $24 per night -- can't be beat!! It's two blocks
from the elevated ("el") transit stop, and it's about a (very scenic) 25
minute train ride to downtown. The folks there are awfully nice, but they
aren't a hotel per se, so they'd like us to take reservations. If you'd
like to stay here, and we highly recommend it, call our conference
coordinator Debby Reelitz-Bell at 847/266-1525 or Kevin Martin at the
Iillinois Peace Action office: 312/939-3316.
>
International House at the University of Chicago: 773/753-2270, 1414 E. 59th
St.-- Single, dormitory-style rooms are $36 per night. This is about a
25-minute bus or train ride from our downtown meeting site. Again, no
frills but nice, highly recommended for those on a budget.
Bed & Breakfast Chicago: 773/248-0005: a clearinghouse for B & B's, they
have rooms close to downtown
>from $135 to $185 per night (2 or 3 people per room)
>>
>If you absolutely cannot afford these reasonably priced (heck, some are
downright cheap!) accommodations, call Debby Reelitz-Bell at 847/266-1525 or
Kevin Martin at 312/939-3316 and we will arrange a home stay for you with an
Illinois Peace Action member.
In Peace,
Kevin Martin
Executive Director
Illinois Peace Action
Check out our website at http://www.webcom.com/ipa
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:44:07 -0400
From: War Resisters League <wrl@igc.apc.org>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Nonviolence Training for Day Without the Pentagon
In addition to the update on A Day Without the Pentagon that you should
receive in a separate post, nonviolence trainings are being scheduled
across the country.
For those in the New York area, there will be a training held on Sunday
September 13, Noon to 6 pm at Theater for a New City, 155 First Avenue at
10th Street. For more information, to share or learn about organizing
activities in your area, reply to this e-mail or call 212-228-0450.
If you would like to have your local info included in an upcoming update,
please let us know immediately.
Peace,
Chris Ney
**********
War Resisters League
339 Lafayette St.
New York, NY 10012
212-228-0450
212-228-6193 (fax)
1-800-975-9688 (YouthPeace and A Day Without the Pentagon)
wrl@igc.apc.org
web address: http://www.nonviolence.org/wrl
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:43:01 -0400
From: War Resisters League <wrl@igc.apc.org>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Day Without the Pentagon Update
A D A Y W I T H O U T T H E P E N T A G O N
339 Lafayette Street, New York, NY 10012
800.975.9688
wrl@igc.apc.org
www.nonviolence.org/wrl/nopentagon.htm
LOCAL ORGANIZING UPDATE
September 10, 1998
FIVE WEEKS TO GO!
On October 19, 1998, thousands will travel from across the country to
Washington, DC. Peace and justice activists will raise their voices to
demand that the U.S. government shift funding
from smart bombs to schoolbooks
from stealth jets to health care
from nuclear and chemical weapons to programs to heal the environment
from a sexist, racist and homophobic military structure to structures that
house and shelter and feed all of the people of this country
Activists are now organizing in Boston, New York, Seattle, Philadelphia and
over a dozen other cities to bring buses to the Pentagon on October 19.
In the coming weeks, national staff for the Day Without the Pentagon Action
will send the Update to local organizing committees.
This issue includes contact information on local organizing committees,
updates on the logistics for the action, and a list of Day Without the
Pentagon publications and organizing resources.
Let us know about the organizing efforts in your area, and we'll include
them in an upcoming issue!
- -- Linda M. Thurston and Chris Ney
- -- National Organizers, A Day Without the Pentagon
==============================
GET ON THE BUS!
A bus caravan will travel from Seattle, WA to the Pentagon in the week
before A Day Without the Pentagon. The bus will stop in cities and towns
along the way, doing outreach and nonviolence training. For more info
contact Geov Parrish at the Nonviolent Action Community of Cascadia by
phone at 206.547.0952 or email at cmtc@igc.apc.org.
New March Route
The March to the Pentagon on October 19 will assemble and proceed from the
Arlington Cemetery to the Pentagon grounds. Please be sure to note the
change. The march route described in early materials, including the
Tactical Manual, lists the March route as starting at the Lincoln Memorial.
ORGANIZING MATERIALS
NEW POSTERS! Artist Lisa Fromartz has designed a new poster for A Day
Without the Pentagon. Copies are available free from the national office.
Call us at 212.228.0450 for more information.
Other materials available:
Pentagon Action Tactical Manual ($2 each/$1 for 10 or more)
Handbook for Nonviolent Action ($3 each/$1.50 for 10-50)
Street Leaflets ($15/100)
- - A Day Without the Pentagon brochure
- - Where Does Your Income Tax Really Go?
- - Five Deadly Myths About the Pentagon
- - Battered by the Pentagon
- - 15 Ways to Work for Peace
- - Violence in Our Communities
- - Abolish Corporate Welfare
LOCAL ORGANIZING CONTACTS FOR A DAY WITHOUT THE PENTAGON
Get involved!
Contact these activists for information on local outreach and organizing,
nonviolence training, and buses to Washington. Even if you are not able to
go to the Pentagon on October 19, we can use your help in getting the word
out through leafleting, special events, and other activities.
WRL New England Regional Office
Joanne Sheehan
P.O. Box 1093
Norwich, CT 06360-1093
ph/fax: 860.889.5337; email: wrlne9@mail.idt.net
CONNECTICUT
Green Party bus from Eastern Connecticut, leaving Willimantic, CT, Monday,
October 19th, at 12:01 am, arriving in Arlington at 8 am, leaving Arlington
at 7 pm, returning to Willimantic at
3 am on Tuesday. $35. Call Gail at 860.455.1315.
MAINE
INVERT (WRL Maine-wide local) is coordinating transportation from Maine to
both the WRL Conference and the Action at the Pentagon. Contact: Larry
Dansiger, PO Box 776, Monroe, ME 04951-9709; ph: 207.525.7776; email:
invert@acadia.net
MASSACHUSETTS
Boston area
Sam Diener
126 Massachusetts Avenue, Arlington, MA 02176
ph: 781.646.6049; email: SAMDIENER@USA.NET
NEW JERSEY
Melissa Jameson and Oliver Hydon
Root and Branch Collective
10 E. Ridgewood Avenue
#19, Ridgewood, NJ 07450-3819
ph: 201.251.9591
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Sean Donahue
New Hampshire Peace Action
PO Box 771, Concord, NH 03301
ph: 603.228.0559; email: nhpeaceact@igc.apc.org
NEW YORK CITY
Chris Ney/Linda Thurston
WRL National Office
339 Lafayette Street, New York, NY 10012
ph: 212.228.0450
PHILADELPHIA, PA
Mario Hardy
Central Committee for Conscientious Objectors
1515 Cherry Street, Philadelphia, PA 19102
ph: 215.563.8787 fax: 215.567.2096
RHODE ISLAND
Rhode Islanders for A Day Without the Pentagon is a coalition of Rhode
Island groups organizing art exhibits and entertainment on October 16 & 17
and a parade (Bread & Puppet Theater are invited) on the 17th during
WaterFire festivities in downtown Providence. Contact Greg Gerrit for info
on times & places at PO Box 1151, Providence, RI 02901. ph: 401.331.0529,
email: gerritt@edgnet.net. Website: www.as220.org/dwp.
SYRACUSE, NY
Syracuse Peace Council dedicated much of their recent Peace Newsletter to A
Day Without the Pentagon, and will hold a community potluck dinner &
discussion on 9/18, "From Speaking Out to Getting Locked Up: Every
Citizen's Obligation".
For info, contact Beth Mosley at 315.472.5478.
VERMONT
Joe Gainza
American Friends Service Committee
73 Main Street, Montpelier, VT 05602
ph/fax: 802.229.2340 (call ahead before faxing)
email: afscvt@together.net
WASHINGTON, DC
John Judge
War Resisters League
1247 E Street, SE, Washington, DC 20003
ph: 202.544.9355
WASHINGTON STATE
The Nonviolent Action Community
of Cascadia is organizing a cross-country bus caravan to the Pentagon (see
page 1). Contact
Geov Parrish at 206.547.0952 or cmtc@igc.apc.org
INDIANA
The Indianapolis Peace & Justice Center
wrote about A Day Without the Pentagon in their newsletter and sent a
mailing to 500 local activists. Contact Kent Moore at 317.955.8121
BETHLEHEM, PA
The LEPOCO Disarmament Working Group is coming to the Pentagon with five
banners reading A Day Without the Pentagon Saves $1.7 Billion". Contact
Nancy Tate at 610.691.8730
**********
War Resisters League
339 Lafayette St.
New York, NY 10012
212-228-0450
212-228-6193 (fax)
1-800-975-9688 (YouthPeace and A Day Without the Pentagon)
wrl@igc.apc.org
web address: http://www.nonviolence.org/wrl
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:21:41 -0700
From: Shundahai Network <shundahai@shundahai.org>
Subject: (abolition-usa) "Bagpipe" update 9/11/98
The preparations for subcritical nuclear weapons test "Bagpipe" seemed to
have taken a step back. At the beginning of the week they were doing
Mandatory dry runs but now have gone back to signal dry runs showing they
have had some preliminary problems with the preparations. I guess the
general speculation was that the test would take place on Sept 17, but now
it seems the likelihood of delaying the test until the 20-24 is very possible.
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"Peace and Harmony with all Creation"
*Breaking the Nuclear Chain*
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Shundahai Network is proud to be part of:
Healing Global Wounds Alliance, a multi-cultural alliance to
foster sustainable living and break the nuclear chain; and
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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 07:33:03 -0400
From: Peace through Reason <prop1@prop1.org>
Subject: (abolition-usa) NucNews: First Citizen Inspection Rights law passed in U.S.
Citizen Inspection Teams, take note! This is the companion law to
initiatives creating nuclear free zones.
Ellen Thomas
Proposition One Committee
prop1@prop1.org
- ----------------------------------------------------
http://ens-news.com/ens/sep98/1998-09-11-09.html
FIRST LAW EMPOWERS CITIZEN INSPECTIONS FOR HAZARDS
The Passaic, New Jersey Board of Chosen Freeholders unanimously enacted the
nation's first neighborhood "right to act" law to prevent environmental
hazards. The law, passed September 8, allows neighbors and/or employees to
petition the county Health Officer for creation of Neighborhood Hazard
Prevention Advisory Committees (NHPACs) for specific facilities. NHPACs
could include management and employees, neighbors, and a municipal
representative. The precedent-setting law gives NHPACs authority to enter
facilities for on-site surveys, discuss potential hazards and make
recommendations to management.
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(See our website for information about initiative campaigns)
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:06:29 EDT
From: DavidMcR@aol.com
Subject: (abolition-usa) Re: Impeaching Clinton for the Stockpile Stewardship Program
Timothy,
I understand why you feel Clinton should be impeached on the nuclear issue. I
think you weaken that position by not including other valid issues (since your
motion is, at best, a "political flag" and not a position Congress would take
up) such as the bombing of Sudan, Afghanistan, the Welfare issue, etc.
However I would suggest it is best for the Abolition list to stay well away of
joining any move to impeach Clinton at this time. It will confuse our message
and blur our positions.
My guess is that Clinton may have to resign and there are lots of unpleasant
aspects to the current attack on him - with which I think we should not be
involved. You might better have suggested Starr be indicted for trying to
derail the Constitution.
Peace,
David McReynols
In a message dated 9/13/98 2:30:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
tsbrueni@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us writes:
<< Below is a draft of a letter urging that Clinton be impeached for the
Stockpile Stewardship Program. I welcome suggestions on how to improve it.
What information should I include in it?
I favor impeaching Clinton, not for having an extra-marital affair and lying
about it, but for continuing to develop nuclear weapons in violation of
international law. On July 8, 1996, the World Court ruled that the use or
threat to use nuclear weapons generally violates international law, and that
nations have a legal obligation to negotiate a treaty to elimination nuclear
weapons. The DOE's Stockpile Stewardship Program would continue to develop
U.S. nuclear weapons in violation of the World Court ruling, and also in
violation of Article Six of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which
requires the nuclear weapons states to bring to a conclusion negotiations
leading to nuclear disarmament in all its respects.
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:23:18 EDT
From: DavidMcR@aol.com
Subject: (abolition-usa) The Ken Starr report
On the "Clinton Papers"
This goes to several lists, (and some friends). I am disturbed over the
release of papers by Ken Starr and, along with many others, need to grapple
with the issues, most particularly with the profound implications of
"impeachment" on the grounds Starr has given.
I logged onto the net to check out the Starr report and read down as far as
the encounter with the cigar and stopped. Others can read each and every
encounter, I don't want to - put it down to an old fashioned Puritanism or
just a revulsion against what Starr did. For the first time in all of this I
feel sorry for Bill Clinton, as well as his wife and daughter.
Lets go over the issues step by step.
First, it is my guess that Bill Clinton will resign. He would probably win a
fight on impeachment, but the country will be tied down and Clinton's
authority is gone. It is one thing to look at Clinton and "imagine" vague
encounters between him and Monica. It is very different to look at him and
realize the endless jokes that will now follow him through every official
encounter until the end of his term. (And long after).
"Anyone like a cigar? Oops - sorry Bill, didn't see you".
"Don't worry Madame, I'm sure that stain will come out - Oops, the President
is sitting right across the table".
What will it be like at any foreign dinner when the cigars and brandy are
usually passed around?
Bill Clinton has been made to look like a fool. How many of you are in my
position, that you would not want the secrets of your sexual life, your phone
conversations, your email sex encounters, your private letters, etc., made
part of a PUBLIC record so that EVERYONE YOU MET would know the smallest
detail? This is humiliation far greater than being impeached for stealing
funds. One can live that down. One can retreat to a monastery. But how does
one live down the cigar?
There are lots of problems with Gore, who will replace Clinton in event of
resignation. Clinton is already being urged by Rosenthal in the Times to
launch a heavy attack on Iraq, to try to wipe out Saddam. If Rosenthal openly
suggests this in the N.Y. Times (where an editorial policy of keeping on
people who are senile provides space to Rosenthal - I don't know what folly of
editorial policy continues to give space to Maureen Dowd), imagine the
pressures on an incoming President to show his "toughness".
(The one possible saving force for Bill Clinton is that with the economy very
rocky, Wall Street, which I do not think has plotted his overthrow, might
demand there be no change in a national leadership in which the rest of the
world has reasonable confidence).
I do not see how Clinton can recover. I am not a Clinton fan. Am I disgusted
by the White House sex scandals? Do I think Monica was too young? That the
White House is the wrong place? Well, sure, but the real fact is I don't want
to know about those things. We didn't elect a preacher but a President. And
even preachers - Martin Luther King Jr. is one of many examples - can be
caught with their pants down if you put enough agents on the case. (And who
among us is so old we have forgotten the sex scandals that rocked a couple of
major TV evangelists off the air, and at least one to prison?). Two of the
GOP right-wingers, Dan Burton, and the lady out in Colorado who is perhaps a
certifiable nut case, are feeling the heat as their lives become public. And
no, I don't want to know about their lives either. And I don't want you to
know about mine, beyond what I choose to make public.
I think it is possible Ken Starr either has no sex life or one that consists
entirely of missionary position encounters. There are people in our world,
and some reading this, who may be startled to learn that oral sex is possible
or that it doesn't mean talking about sex. But none of this is important.
What is important is that Ken Starr brought in a report which had absolutely
NOTHING impeachable from the White Water, and ONLY found impeachable offenses
in sex cases where almost any of us would have lied under oath, refused to
give clear answers, been evasive, called on friends and co-workers to cover
for us. In short, the charges against Clinton have nothing to do with what are
normally thought of as "impeachable" offenses. I remain stunned that Ken
Starr would put his name to a report as lurid, obscene, pornographic, and
IRRELEVANT as the one he turned in.
For the first time in this whole long, shoddy business I wish Clinton could
made a good counterattack. But he can't. The counterattack should have come
much earlier and Clinton is a gutless wonder who would never have dreamed of
it:
"Mr. Starr, you can cite me, and you can try to impeach me, but for the sake
of this Republic I will not answer one single question about any aspects of my
private sexual life - if I did so, I would open every citizen in America to
the kind of State investigation of their private affairs which is contrary to
things basic to this nation".
Instead we have a range of apologies, increasingly desperate, pathetic, and
phoney.
I know from a lot of the posts I've read that many liberals have persuaded
themselves that Clinton is a greater man than events have demonstrated, and
must be defended at all costs. The liberals have hold of one thing which is
true, and which has accounted for the support thus far from women's and black
groups - within a very narrow range, Bill Clinton has done good things for
women and communities of color that would not have come from George Bush. Life
is not so plush out there on the outskirts, where most of Black America lives,
that Clinton's sexual morality is more important than some marginal benefits.
After this is over we are going to have to reevaluate much. We - the
collective "politically correct left" - were wrong on the Clarence Thomas
issue. Dead wrong. Anita Hill's testimony was not grounds for blocking Thomas.
We should have taken on Thomas on the solid grounds his credentials were weak,
that better jurists could be found. But the liberals in the Senate didn't have
the hearts for that - it might seem an attack on affirmative action. They
waited for Anita Hill. We were wrong to have pursued Thomas with that
material.
We shall, looking back on this period from ten years, wonder, as we look back
on the McCarthy period, how it ever happened. Were there real live Communists
in the State Department? Probably. I don't know. But McCarthy did vastly more
harm to the "State" and its ability to cope with problems than a dozen
Communists. Ken Starr has lifted private sexual behavior between consenting
adults to the level of a crime against the State. He achieved this by
pursuing the lies and evasions that followed his hounding of Clinton into
areas of his life that had no relationship to the original purpose of the
"White Water" inquiry..
Was Clinton responsible for his own fate? Yes - but again, that is not the
issue. The issue is not anything which Clinton did sexually - it is Ken
Starr's stunning report, broadcast by every possible aspect of the media, to
the world at large, so that even a child can, by checking the web sites
(assuming their parents burned the New York Times special section) read
precisely what Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky did. There is much that I do
not want to know. I don't want to know what Ken Starr's farts smell like, nor
the color of his piss or the shape of his turds. I don't want to know what
Clinton's crotch smells like from nose level. If I offend you, then you see my
point, and why the Starr report astounds and offends me.
A private life means that lots of things are really off limits unless revealed
by consent.
That is old-fashioned on my part, but it has been part of what America has
been about. Part of what I hope it continues to be about.
Ironically, while I think Bill Clinton will have to resign, Ken Starr's report
is the first solid reason I've seen for hoping Clinton beats the rap. Is there
no legal recourse that can be had against Ken Starr? No sense of how very far
he has gone beyond any reasonable line of legal inquiry? No law which applies
to him?
For, and I close with this, what impeachment does is to overturn a decision of
the people. An election. One which Clinton won. If Starr succeeds in driving
Clinton from office on the grounds he has given to Congress, then an election
will have been nullified. Starr has conspired not against Clinton, but against
the Constitution, and the people as a whole, who wisely or not, elected Bill
Clinton. He must not be impeached on grounds of lying about sexual encounters
in the White House.
I've had reports on the net of a range of other White House sexual encounters
by other Presidents - I do not forward those because even if Bill Clinton's
offenses were unique, they are not impeachable.
I am not excited by Clinton's sexual encounters. But I am deeply, profoundly
disgusted by Ken Starr's obsession with them.
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:46:05 -0400
From: Ish <ishgooda@tdi.net>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Fwd: Response to Counsel's Rebuttal
Unfortunately, the magnitude of Ken Starr's report tends to draw sympathy
to the man because of the exposure of his affairs..what of the other women
?? I am sure this is nothing new for either one of them..except to the
degree to which his affairs are public knowledge.
Hubbel was bought off and still earns 98,000 a year behind bars in the
position he was given for his silence. Vern Jordan got him the position,
at the same place he got Lewinski a job...hence the connection. Perjury
was proven in black and white..and no bait and switch tactics by his
defense counsel negates that fact. This is a 5 year felony...and if
convicted precludes his tenancy as president.
If your son were involved in these kinds of practices, would you not call
it a sexual relationship with the woman involved? Get real..Lewinski had
sex, but Clinton didn't?
What is wrong with this culture when ethics become SO compartmentalized
that a lie is okay as long as it is understandable? Unethical behavior is
fine, as long as it doesn't rock your boat? Where is honor? Where is
morality?
What we accept....we teach.
Ish
>Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 23:40:53 -0400
>To: PRES
>From: Ish <ishgooda@tdi.net>
>Subject: Response to Counsel's Rebuttal
>
>To Whom it May Concern;
>
>Your rebuttal albeit preliminary is an example of bait and switch tactics
of which you have accused Starr's in his investigation..
>The oath taken prior to testimony states "I swear to tell the Truth the
Whole Truth and Nothing but the Truth." This standard was not met by Mr
Clinton in either his testimony in the Paula Jones case nor before the
Grand Jury. What he demonstrated was an attempt to deceive, mislead..in
short: lie. This deception is an element of perjury. Starr has proved his
point.
>
>The President has not demonstrated characteristics necessary for full
faith and confidence in the performance of his duties as a citizen..how can
he ever be trusted with the duties of the highest office in this country?
I would propose that he cannot.
>
>History will judge him as the man who failed to address the year 2000
problem in a timely manner in 1996 when approached by Senator Moynihan.
His may possibly be the last captaincy of this country as we have known
it..one hell of a commentary,eh?
>
>For ONCE do the honorable thing and resign the office..
>
Ishgooda Tewehshon'on
>
>
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:23:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: da710@freenet.carleton.ca (John Murray Clearwater)
Subject: (abolition-usa) Heavy bombers to Asia
NEW U.S. BOMBER DEPLOYMENTS TO ASIA
by John M. Clearwater
da710 at freenet dwot carleton dwot ca
(author of "Canadian Nuclear Weapons")
09 September 1998. Ottawa.
The United States Air Force (USAF), at the
direction of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) and
the Secretary of Defence (SoD), ordered a small
but significant heavy bomber force to be sent
from the USA to Anderson Air Force Base (AFB) on
the island of Guam in the Pacific near South-
East Asia.
On Friday, 04 September 1998, two bomber
detachments set out from Whiteman AFB and
Barksdale AFB in the USA to Anderson AFB, Guam.
Three B-52H heavy bombers from the 2nd Bomb
Wing at Barksdale AFB, Bossier City, Louisiana;
and three B-2 heavy stealth bombers from the
5th Bomb Wing at Whiteman AFB in Missouri, have
been sent for a thirty (30) day deployment to
Anderson AFB, Guam.
In the past, the 2nd Bomb Wing spent years
at Anderson beginning in 1970, having been the
USAF "super" wing during the massive bombings
of Indo-China. The 509th Bomb Wing also served
at Anderson, and in 1968 and 1968 participated
in the aerial destruction of Indo-China.
The context for the deployments is that a
little more than a week ago, just after lunch on
Monday 31 August 1998, the DPRK (North Korea)
tested a medium range ballistic missile which
overflew Japan. Parts of the missile landed in
the high seas off the Sanriku coast of Japan.
The Japanese Cabinet Secretary, Hiromu Nonaka,
stated that it was an extremely dangerous act
as the DPRK had issued no warning to the ships
or aircraft operating in the target region.
There is a growing awareness in the USA that
DPRK missile ranges are steadily increasing,
and US military and civilian officials are
voicing concerns that soon Hawaii will be in
range of strikes from the DPRK.
It is likely that the USA is preparing to
bomb deep and heavily defended targets inside
the DPRK, or to engage in more strikes against
anti-USA individuals in third countries. It
was recently reported that the US satellite
intelligence community discovered evidence of
a massive underground complex. Although there
is no firm evidence, the Pentagon is suggesting
that it could house nuclear facilities, missile
factories, or a plant for the manufacture of
weapons of mass destruction.
The official USAF story of the deployments
is that the bombers will "demonstrate global
power capabilities of U.S. forces and conduct
local, Guam-based bomber training in support of
global objectives." The USAF also states that
the B-52 Stratofortresses and the B-2 Spirits
"will carry conventional munitions and partici-
pate in bomber training operations in the
Pacific region." The greatest irony is that
the USAF contends that the bomber force can
respond anywhere in the world within 24 hours
with tremendous lethality "while placing
relatively few people in harm's way". It seems
that only USAF crew are people, and the human
beings in the drop-zone are only targets and
collateral damage.
The B-52H bombers are from the 20th and/or
96th Bomb Squadrons of the 2nd Operations Group
of the 2nd Bomb Wing. This is one of only two
B-52 bomb wings in the USA, utilizing 58 of the
95 B-62s left in service. Barksdale AFB stores
some 50 B61-7 and 90 B83 nuclear gravity bombs;
and about 300 AGM-86B cruise missiles and 100
AGM-129 A advanced cruise missiles. The base
is home to some 540 nuclear warheads for the two
bomber squadrons and one training squadron based
there.
The weapons of choice for the B-52 units
are the AGM-86B nuclear air-launched cruise
missile; the AGM-86C conventional air-launched
cruise missile; and the AGM-129A advanced cruise
missile. The conventional AGM-86C was secretly
made from cold war-surplus nuclear AGM-86B's in
June 1986, and the first 35 missiles were used
against targets in Iraq in January 1991. The
new missiles, called CALCM, have a high explo-
sive blast/fragmentation warhead. They were
fired from B-52s of the 2nd Bomb Wing.
It is most likely that the B-52s, each of
which can carry 12 missiles under the wings and
another eight in the bomb bay, took a full war
load of 20 AGM-886C CALCM missiles with them.
There is no reason to suspect that the unit
took nuclear munitions. Each B-52 can carry
31.5 tonnes of munitions, both conventional and
nuclear.
The B-2 stealth bombers are from the 393
Bomb Squadron of the famous 509th Bomb Wing. The
509th is best known as the unit which dropped
the Little Boy atomic bomb on Hiroshima on 06
August 1945. On 09 August 1945, another 509
Composite Group bomber dropped the second
atomic bomb on the city of Nagasaki. The Wing
was activated on 01 Sept 1991 as the USAF's new
stealth bomber unit. However, the first B-2
did not arrive until 17 December 1993. There
have been no combat missions flown by the B-2
to date. Each B-2 can carry 18 tonnes of
munitions, both conventional and nuclear.
Whiteman AFB is home to some 550 nuclear
warheads. The base holds about 200 B61-7
nuclear gravity bombs; about 50 of the new
B61-11 bunker-buster deep penentrator nuclear
gravity bombs; and about 300 of the 1 Mt yield
B83 thermonuclear gravity bombs. There are no
cruise missiles at Whiteman, as the B-2s are
expected to penetrate to the target and drop
gravity weapons.
The 509th stealth bombers have recently
acquired a new nuclear weapon: the B61 Mod 11.
The B61 Mod 11 was designed and tested over the
past four years as a nuclear bunker-busting
explosive. There has been a great deal of
controversy surrounding the weapon, as critics
charge that US design, testing, and production
of this new device violates US arms control
commitments. This weapon has been earmarked
for use on the supposed and actual command-
control-communications-intelligence bunkers
of coutries such as Iraq and the DPRK. They
are also tagged for use against the National
Command Authority sites meant to house the
government leaders.
During the Cold War, the USA had pledged
that their forces would never use nuclear
weapons on a country which did not themselves
have nuclear weapons of their own or stored
on their land. With the end of the Cold War,
this policy was abandoned by the Clinton
Administration and replaced with one which
stated that nuclear weapons could now be used
as a response to any use of weapons of mass
destruction, even by non-nuclear countries.
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:36:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Peace Action - National Office <panukes@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) Fwd: Response to Counsel's Rebuttal
This is the abolition caucus! A friendly reminder to keep to the topic
even as loosely defined as it is, at hand - abolition! There are
plenty of internet chat rooms and web pages to discuss the Starr report
and its legal aspects.
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Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:42:44 EDT
From: DavidMcR@aol.com
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) Fwd: Response to Counsel's Rebuttal
In a message dated 9/13/98 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
panukes@igc.apc.org writes:
<< Subj: Re: (abolition-usa) Fwd: Response to Counsel's Rebuttal
Date: 9/13/98 6:39:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: panukes@igc.apc.org (Peace Action - National Office)
Sender: owner-abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com
Reply-to: abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com
To: abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com
This is the abolition caucus! A friendly reminder to keep to the topic
even as loosely defined as it is, at hand - abolition! There are
plenty of internet chat rooms and web pages to discuss the Starr report
and its legal aspects.
>>
Sorry but the point is not well taken. Whether we like it or not, (and I am
very distressed about it), the issue of foreign policy, Bill Clinton, and the
Starr report are news and are linked in ways we can't dodge. Abolition 2000
doesn't live in a gilded cage - it is part of a real world in which events are
occuring which do touch on things such as the Starr report.
Sincerely,
David McReynolds
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