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From: Ralph Alvy <[e-mail]>
Subject: WordPerfect 8 and KDE 3.2
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:24:38 -0800
User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2
Organization: "Another Corel User"

Just found this in another list:

---

WP8 for Linux is toast in KDE 3.2
From: Andrew Schulman
Date: Thursday 19 February 2004 02:26:23 am
Group: gmane.linux.debian.user.kde

---

KDE 3.2 depends on xlibs 4.3.x, which conflicts with xlibs6, which is
required for WP8 for Linux to run.  Therefore, WP8 is toast.

But we still need to run WP
here. AFAICT, the only other option is WP2K4L.
I'll consider buying a copy, but I want to be sure first that it will
work with KDE 3.2.  Is anyone else running this combination?  How's it working
for you?

I looked into Star Office, which is supposed to have a read/write WP
conversion
filter.  But it turns out that the WP filter isn't included in
the Linux version.

Are there other KDE 3.2 users who are reading and writing WP documents?
What's your solution?

Thanks,
Andrew.



To: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
From: diego <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8 and KDE 3.2
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:54:58 +0000
Organization: DOMUS
User-Agent: KNode/0.7.6

Ralph Alvy wrote:

> Are there other KDE 3.2 users who are reading and writing WP
> documents?  What's your solution?

I'm using it without problems.

SuSe 9.0 with kde 3.2, in spanish.

I always use WordPerfect.

Diego



To: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 23:29:24 -0700
From: James Richard Tyrer <[e-mail]>
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Ralph Alvy wrote:
> Just found this in another list:
>
> ---
>
> WP8 for Linux is toast in KDE 3.2
> From: Andrew Schulman
> Date: Thursday 19 February 2004 02:26:23 am
> Group: gmane.linux.debian.user.kde
>
> ---
>
> KDE 3.2 depends on xlibs 4.3.x, which conflicts with xlibs6, which is
> required for WP8 for Linux to run.  Therefore, WP8 is toast.

No, this shouldn't be a problem.  You should be able to deal with it as
you
would any application that needs a certain version of a library.

You will need the old library.  Just put it in: "/usr/lib/wp8/wpbin/"
(for
example).

Then you need a script to start XWP:

------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/wp8/wpbin

PATH=/usr/lib/wp8/wpbin:/usr/lib/wp8/shbin10:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/
X11R6/bin

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH PATH

exec xwp "$@"

------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<------8<

Make appropriate adjustments in the paths.

--
JRT



Reply-To: "howard kainz" <[e-mail]>
From: "howard kainz" <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8 and KDE 3.2
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:30:05 -0600
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158

I installed WP8 for Linux in Suse Linux 9.0.  It's necessary to install
shlib5 with YAST2, before installation.
      Howard Kainz



From: Mary Ann Panevska <[e-mail]>
Subject: Corel testing the market for Linux !
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:36:57 -0800

While searching eBay for a Linux book, I noticed that "CorelStore" is
selling several "Corel WordPerfect for Linux Full Version NIB".  It
gives no details at all, so I emailed them via eBay to ask if this is
version 8 ..1 or WPO2K4L, or what, and got an automated reply that was
not a reply (see our FAQs, but if you can't find help there, send
another email) - so I se nt a second email and then got a reply to send
my email to another place at corel.com - and every time I try, their
website gets paralyzed in loading mode.

Anyway, while stumbling around the Corel website, I did a "Search Our
Knowledgebase" for Linux, and found a few interesting Q&As, among which:

============
Does Corel have a version of WordPerfect for Linux?
Answer

On an ongoing basis, Corel« engages in strategic analyses of a wide var
iety of business opportunities. As part of our continuing analysis of
the Linux market's potential, Corel has developed a proof-of-concept,
Linux-native version of WordPerfect«. WordPerfect for Linux« is being
sold through the Corel Store on eBay.

Visit the Corel Store on eBay.

This pilot project will help us determine the feasibility of developing
future Linux versions of WordPerfect or WordPerfect Office.
============
The posting was last updated on 12-15-03 - so maybe the Corel folks are
actually thinking of getting back on the Linux bandwagon????

Maybe we should start a campaign to get people to order this (cost $10
plus $10 s&h) ???

If I ever get a reply as to exactly what "WP for Linux" they are
selling, I'll post it.  And wouldn't it be incredible if they designed
it to install on all the popular recent distros? (So, nooh, I'm a
dreamer.)

Mary Ann Panevska



From: Mary Ann Panevska <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Corel testing the market for Linux !
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:35:23 -0800

I finally spoke with a Linux-friendly rep at Corel, and here's the
story:

It's called WordPerfect 8 for Linux and is fully featured similar to
8.1.

It is native Linux and has been re-optimized to work in the newest Linux
kernel. I asked if it was a debian or rpm package and he said neither -
it has a user-friendly installation engine designed for people new to
Linux.

I recommended that Corel put a press release about it on every Linux
oriented website.



Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 08:01:33 -0700
From: "Frank B" <"Frank B"@cnews1.corel.dmz>
Reply-To: nospam <[e-mail]>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031119 Debian/1.4.0.x.1-20
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: Re: Corel testing the market for Linux !


OK, I traced the links back, and this IS A GENUINE MARKET RESEARCH ITEM
FROM COREL ITSELF.  I called Corel in Ottawa (1-800-772-6735) and talked
to Jose in the pre-sales support and he gave me the following
information:

The version that is being sold on eBay is 8.1 for Linux, and it is NOT
updated in any way.  If they sell a bunch of them, then they take this
to mean that there is a demand, and they may get back into the Linux
market with a native port.



From: Mary Ann Panevska <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: Corel testing the market for Linux !
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:59:04 -0800

Sorry everyone, that I didn't add the following message that I
posted to the WPO2000 newsgroup - (aside: I wish we had only ONE
WP for Linux newsgroup since there's a good bit of overlapping).

Anyhow, when I finally got thru by telephone to Corel, the fellow
(who said he actually used Linux somewhat and sounded
enthusiastic about Linux and this market-testing) said that this
package is "fully-featured" (which should mean more 8.1 than
8.0) AND "re-optimized to work on the latest Linux kernel" and
when I asked if it was a debian or rpm package, he checked with
someone else and said it's neither but
"it has its own install engine geared to make it simple
for even newbies to install."

I've also ordered a copy, and I guess we all have to try it out
and see what it really is - and let each other know.

I also fully endorse what Frank said - we should take the time to
send a snail-mail letter to Corel.

Another thought:  I also have some misgivings about the lack of
promotion by Corel.  How about if we write our own little news
announcement with a review, and send it to all the Linux-related
websites?  But better to wait till we try it out first so we can
tell people what's really inside.

Mary Ann




Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:25:38 -0600
From: Chris D <[e-mail]>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: New WP8 for Linux


I just received the disk ordered from eBay. It came FedEx from Ohio, and
was a single disk in a disk envelope [strangely packed in a box big
enough to hold a two-slice toaster, filled with those small air bag
shipping filler]. There is a license number included. I checked the
files on the disk, and they all are dated September 2003. A readme text
file indicates there are 130 Type 1 fonts included.

I don't have time to install this morning, but I will work on it his
weekend, on my Xandros 2.0 distro.



Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 20:00:59 -0500
From: "Leon A. Goldstein" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.23 i686)
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: Re: New WP8 for Linux

Summary of findings - incomplete.

It is WP8.1:  the xwp executable is exactly the same size.; the splash
screen is WP8.1

It installs a compatibility directory in /usr.  The executable is a
script that points to another script - wplauncher - in ~/wpbin.
This script sets the path to the compatibility directory.  In short - it
is still libc5 based, and installs what it needs.

Filtrix file conversion works.  No new MS Word formats, i.e. Word 97 is
still the latest it will open.
I'd appreciate someone who has MS Word 2000 or XP to send me a short
document (not fast saved!) to test.
If possible, insert a table in a a copy  and send that too.  I'd like to
test the filter further.

The printer configuration is set up by default for Passthru Postscript
and uses the WPSpool destination.
Newbies should find this version ready to print, more or less.

Same printer drivers as in WP8.1 - no new ones.

--
Leon A. Goldstein

Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux
System LI



From: Mary Ann Panevska <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: New WP8 for Linux
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:05:25 -0800

Leon,

By splash screen do you mean what appears in the little "program
box"?  If that says "Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux", and the
Help About box for me says Release 8.1 ll/1/1999, then I don't
think you are running the new product.

I found that the installation puts an icon on the desktop with
/usr/bin/xwp, which is the OLD 8.1 xwp
and I had to change the icon to bring up
/usr/wplinux/wpbin/xwp which is the NEW xwp

This gives the program box that says only "Corel WordPerfect for
Linux" (without number 8), and the Help About box for me says
Release 8.1.0076 11/1/1999

It would seem that it is the same program, but I'm finding a few
things that seem to work better on my system than the WP8.1.

I agree that this thread is getting too complex to follow, so
maybe the next person should start fresh with a subject of
"Findings on the new WP" or some such.





Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 13:40:28 -0500
From: Leon Goldstein <[e-mail]>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030327 Debian/1.3-4
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: Re: New WP8 for Linux


I made my test install on a fresh Libranet 2.8.1 without the WP8
compatibility package and without any other WP8 installed.  The Help >
About Corel WordPerfect is definitely not the same. It says release
8.1.0076 like yours. The license key is different and is exactly what I
had to type in to install it.  Also, as previously mentioned, the
printer is preconfigured.  Perhaps my use of "splash screen" is
misleading.

BTW this version can be adapted to use the old localization packages for
the download version. hat may be of interest to Dutch, Italian, German
and Spanish users, since the new release omitted these languages. I'll
be reporting that in my Linux Journal report.

--
Leon A. Goldstein

Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux
System G2




Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 23:29:09 -0700
From: James Richard Tyrer <[e-mail]>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: Re: Big response to WP8L on Slashdot

There clearly  is  a market for the old WordPerfect 8.x for X (on
UNIX/Linux) if the price is right.  But this is just a niche product.
If it is available for like $50.00 they will sell some.

I'm not sure what their plans are, but the previous management's rapid
release of several new versions of WordPerfect Office for Windows isn't
what they need with Linux.   A Linux word processor doesn't need to be a
Swiss Army Knife.  It just needs to be an excellent word processor.
Linux users will use other tools to do other jobs -- that is the UNIX
way of doing things.  I doubt that UNIX users would use WordPerfect to
compose HTML.

I can't see any features that are lacking in WordPerfect 8.x for X.  It
could use some improvement.  First, they need to see that everything
works or if they are unnecessary they could be removed (i.e. HTML
editing).  It would be better if it had 1200 DPI like the Windows
versions -- actually it would be better if you could choose your
resolution for page layout (at least the common resolutions or 2^N*72
and 2^N*75 would be sufficient.

The printing system needs to be converted to PostScript ONLY and it
should use PPD files for configuration.  The font system should be
changed to directly use the X font (old) system or FontConfig.  This
would permit a lot of printing and font stuff to be removed because it
would be redundant.  I would keep the ability to override the auto
detect for Bold and Italic until that could be fixed/replaced.  They
should also add the ability to configure font embedding on a per font
basis (like Scribus) and to make fonts invisible on a per font basis
(everything needs this :-D).  It should be able to embed TrueType fonts
as scalable (outline) Type42 fonts.

Such a product would be competitive with what is available for Linux
even if you had to install old libraries -- UNIX uses hundreds of
libraries, a few more won't matter.  I think that what was being sold on
e-Bay as 8.2 included all of the needed libraries.

If they could update it to use FontConfig, FreeType2, and Xft[2] (for
display and TrueType fonts) and the current version of GLibc, they they
would a product that would be competitive with Word for Windows for
applications where people only did word processing.  There are a lot of
business seats that only do word processing.

Also, on Linux direct export (print) to PDF, and PS & PDF import are
much more important than filters to import/export anything but RTF.

The next major version should use the OASIS file format.




TransGaming's WineX has been renamed "Cedega":
http://lwn.net/Articles/90587/



FWIW, the recently available "WordPerfect for Linux" is version 8 (Help
shows: release 8.1.0076 11/1/1999).


July 2004:

At this time Corel's WordPerfect for Linux proof of concept is
temporarily unavailable for purchase from wordperfect.com.

Corel is currently in the process of investigating a number of minor
enhancements to the product. We will endeavor to notify the Linux
community once the product is again available.

In the meantime, we continue to aggressively promote the new WordPerfect
Office 12 for Windows. For more information on Corel's Linux-native
version of WordPerfect or WordPerfect Office 12, please contact Corel's
customer service department at 1-800-772-6735.

Sincerely,
Greg Wood



> I don't suppose that they will fix the PostScript driver or the bugs in
> the font system.  It would be nice.

They haven't told us yet.  I'd be happy just to see the menu shortcuts
work when the caps or num lock keys are on.  :)



Leon A. Goldstein:

WP8.1, as provided by CLOS 1 or 1.2, can be made to run using its own
static support libs on some distributions.  My original how-to on the
SxS site describes this.  The last, limited WP8 release, which is WP8.1
with a new installer and  support libs,  needs no additional user
intervention to install and run.


Frank B:

8.1 is fully functional, but has to be purchased.  It is my
understanding that it is this version that comes with the WP8/Linux
Bible.

The pilot version was 8.1 with a new loader, even more fonts, and
apparently some static libs along with it so it would run on current
distros.



Ping-Wu Zhang <[e-mail]>:

Leon Goldstein wrote:

> Anyhow, to summarize:  WP8 has three incarnations:
> 1.  WP8 Personal Edition
> 2.  WP8 Download Personal Edition
> 3.  WP8 Server Edition (this is the rare (i.e. expensive!) and highly
> sought version that also runs in the classic text mode.)

There is actually a "fourth" incarnation, which is the version included
in Steve Harris's WordPerfect Linux Bible.  Steve Harris, who is now (I
believe) an executive with Xandros, negotiated this unique version with
Corel which is very similar to the Personal Edition (and definitely not
the download Edition) but with a much simplified installation script.

The WP8 Linux Bible Edition is very similar to POC Edition, except that
you have to run two rpms.  I have successfully installed it in all new
versions of Red Hat (including RHEL3, CentOS, Fedora 1/2/3), and
Mandrake.  As I mentioned in a previous thread, since I, at least at the
present time, am unable to run WPWin in Linux under Win4Lin, I am really
loving it.  Ping-Wu




http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/08/27/2143205.shtml?tid=130

"We're looking at reviewing some aspects of WordPerfect for Linux and
making some alterations to it," Corel spokesman Greg Wood said on
Friday. When asked if there were plans to port WordPerfect 12 to Linux,
or to produce a parallel release to the Windows product on GNU/Linux,
Wood said that it would be pure conjecture at this point, and that Corel
was still in the process of evaluating its potential in the Linux
market. "Our investigation into the Linux market is serious and
ongoing," he added.



Frank Billington:

Yes. Starting April 15 it will be sold through the Corel online store at
www.corel.com. However, it is NOT WP Office, only WordPerfect 8 for
Linux.

We got an answer back from Greg Wood at Corel confirming this, so it is
not an April Fool's joke. :)

He also underlined that this is a 'proof of concept' market analysis
only. This is not a product launch. So don't expect a lot, or start
comparing this old product with newer word processors. Hopefully, if the
pilot goes well, we will eventually see an UPDATED version that we CAN
compare to other Linux-native word processors.

This pilot is basically a repackaged version of WP8.1, but with a new
loader, a fix for the filtrix MS Word 97 import filter, 130 Type 1
fonts, and the necessary compatibility libraries that WP8L needs to run
on newer distros.

While I don't fully grasp what is done when it loads, my understanding
is that the compatibility libraries are placed in a path where WP8 can
find them, but where nothing else loaded on a modern distro will look.
This gives WP the older support libraries it needs, without 'breaking'
the distro for other, newer products.

So, this is NOT a new product. In fact, the executable is byte for byte
the same size as the one that shipped with CLOS some years ago. It still
has the same interface quirks. However, it will install fully
automatically and run on modern distros that are either RPM or DEB based
without having to jump through hoops.

I am told that it installs in less that 1.5 minutes, and comes up ready
to run in less than 2 seconds after you click the icon.



To: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 08:23:59 -1000
From: Ping-Wu Zhang <[e-mail]>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-TW; rv:1.7.2)
Gecko/20040803
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: Re: Search & Replace

[...]

(In Windows, I have used WP 10/11/12, but have since gone back to WP
8/9--I need WP9 b/c Corel changed file format in version QP9.)



To: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 12:46:21 -1000
From: Ping-Wu Zhang <[e-mail]>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-TW; rv:1.7.2)
Gecko/20040803
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Subject: Re: Search & Replace

[...]

WP Uinverse has a thread discussing the development history of WPWin;
you will get some idea:

http://www.wpuniverse.com/vb/showthread.php?s=8ec6b44d6aeaca03be0cf7d8285c10cf&
threadid=12449



Review:
http://www.thejemreport.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=122



To: corel.wpoffice.office2000-linux
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:04:47 -0700
From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.office2000-linux
Subject: Word filters in new ebay WP8

I saw a posting in Linux Journal--
In Linux Review: WordPerfect 8 for Linux Redux?
Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 by Leon A. Goldstein
..
..
To start my test, I opened a MS Word file. It opened; the Filtrix file
conversion utility that died September 9, 2001, from the UNIX
one-billion-second bug was functional. Unfortunately, it still is
limited to MS Word 97 and earlier files. There are no new MS Word
formats more recent than Word 97.
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

My question: Was it the Filtrix file conversion utility, or from INSO? I
think Corel licensed from INSO, too, though maybe not Word filters. Does
it have FrameMaker filters, too?



To: corel.wpoffice.office2000-linux
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2004 00:45:56 -0700
From: James Richard Tyrer <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: corel.wpoffice.office2000-linux
Subject: Re: Making WPO2KL run on a newer distro - it CAN be done!

[...]

I presume that you didn't install the unofficial update for Corel-WINE :

http://students.cs.byu.edu/~torriem/corelwine/corelwine-cvs-20010613-1.i386.rpm

Two other updates at the same place that are also needed:

http://students.cs.byu.edu/~torriem/corelwine/fonttastic-glibc-2.1-7x-1mt.i386.
rpm
http://students.cs.byu.edu/~torriem/corelwine/libaps-1.0-1568.0.i386.rpm

There is one small mystery.  The startup script refers to:

\011/opt/libc-compat/ld-linux.so.2

and there is no such file in the package.

This must be on your system, is it a link?  The important question here
is if there is a compatibility library in: "/opt/libc-compat/".  Which
would mean that I would need other packages for this to work.  The DEB
package contains old XFree86 libraries but no GLibc libraries.

Anyhow, I will have to try installing this if I can remember how.  Was
it FontTastic that required the trick??  Yes, so don't try to install
the update without using the trick in the install script:

ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/linux/Office2000/updates/installscript/install.tar






$ cd /tmp
$ [unpack the wp8 files]
$ su -
# ldconfig -v | grep libc.so.5  #Must return "libc.so.5 -> libc.so.5.n.nn"
## where 5.n.nn is some value of 5.3.12 through 5.4.46
# ldconfig -v | grep ld-linux.so.1  #Must return "ld-linux.so.1 -> ld-linux.so.1.n.nn"
# ldconfig -v | grep libm.so.5  #Must return "libm.so.5 -> libm.so.5.n.n"
# ldconfig -v | grep libsafe  #Must return null value.
# mkdir /opt/wp8
# chown yourself.yourself /opt/wp8  #Where "yourself" is your non-root login.
# exit   #Ending root-user access, reverting to user "yourself".
$ cd /tmp/[wherever]
$ ./Runme

You are now running the installer with regular, non-root-user authority,
having first confirmed that the necessary libs are installed and known
to the dynamic loader.  You've also created a target directory for
installation and chowned it so you can write there.  Accordingly, when
prompted for a target directory specify /opt/wp8.

New WP8.1 in Europe:

http://shop.mensys.nl/cgi-bin/db2www/MNS_art2.d2w/report?artname=&catname=LINUXW
P8

Reveal Codes?

8.1.0076

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7475

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There is an experience of trying to choose something other than the
default US English as a language during the install of the new WP8L in
the WP Universe web forum at:

http://www.wpuniverse.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13574&perpage=10&pagenu
mber=2

Apparently, the install fails if you try to choose anything other that
the default US English.

Other language modules apparently can be installed correctly AFTER the
install (see thread in the newsgroup date 04/29/04 "Ordering WP8 for
Linux in Europe").  Just don't try to do it DURING the install.  This
may be a limitation of the install script.

For your information.

Frank.

Z




5.  What (incompatible) versions of WP's .wpd document format have
existed, post-WP 8.1 PE for Linux?  How many?  Which WP for Windows
versions introduced each of those formats?


In 1999, WP 8.1 was slightly updated for the version bundled on CD with
Stephen E. Harris and Erwin Zijleman's book WordPerfect for Linux Bible,
to feature a simplified installation script, 140 Type 1 PostScript fonts
(versus 300 in WP 8.1 PE bundled with Corel Linux OS boxed sets), 5,000
clip art images, and a now-outdated set of KDE 1.1 RPMs for Red Hat
Linux 5.1/5.2.





Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:48:38 -1000
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@(none) wrote:
>
> Now when I start WP I receive an error message stating:
>
> "Cannot create a new process:  You may have exceeded either the user
> or
> system limit for the number of active processes.  Or the executable
> may
> not be in its proper directory"

> Michael Galvin
>

This appears to be a kernel issue.  I have experienced the same problem
in FC2 when upgraded to the 2.6.8-1.521 kernel.  WP8 works OK when I
boot back into the 2.6.7-1.494 kernel.  I don't know whether there is
something that was changed in the kernel itself that's causing the
problem, or it was simply a compilation issue.  (I have not had time to
look at the kernel configuration files.)


Additionally, when running WP8 with the 2.6.8-1.521 kernel in FC2, I
wasn't able to do anything. The system would freeze solid.  In FC3
(2.6.9-1.667 kernel), I saw the error message, but I was able to do
everything (seemingly) except printing.



Leon Goldstein a/o 12 Feb 2004:

Of the current Linuces, only SuSE (RPM) and Libranet (Debian) include in
their distribution CD's the support libs needed to install WP8.

Chris D, 6 May 2004:

I received my copy of SuSE 9.1 today, and I'm happy to report that WP8.1
installs just fine.


Newsgroups: corel.WordPerfect_older_versions
From: Ralph Alvy <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: WP5.1 for DOS under Linux
Followup-To: corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-linux
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 15:46:39 -0700
Organization: Ralph Alvy DC
User-Agent: KNode/0.7.7

Edward Mendelson wrote:

> "Giovanni" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
> news:cdlsv1$19h$[e-mail]...
>> I use now DOSEMU-1.2.1 on a Linux kernel 2.4.24 and the keyboard is
>> not a problem anymore and, for the limited use I do, every feature of
>> WP5.1 seems OK except for the ALT-Fn shortcuts. Maybe it can be
>> solved with the proper directive in the configuration but I never
>> worried to try it.
>
> Perhaps these somewhat ancient instructions will help with the Alt-Fn
> key problem:
>
> http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/linux.html#functionkeys
>
> This is mostly about Gnome, but there's a note there about KDE. The
> author of that page (me) will be grateful for any feedback.
>
> Edward Mendelson

I don't use Gnome, but I use KDE almost 100% of the time. Under KDE you
can turn off all Alt-Fn keys want, one combination at a time, within the
KDE Control Center:

        Regional & Accessibility
        Keyboard Shortcuts

This will keep KDE from intercepting those keystroke combos.





Newsgroups: corel.WordPerfect_older_versions
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 23:02:45 -0400
From: "Leon A. Goldstein" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.19 i686)
Subject: Re: installing WP8.1 under RedHat 9.0

[In response to someone having problems using alien on RH9:]

Here is the old Corel WP8/Linux help file; this will identify the needed
support libs.  Alien is funny; some releases work better with the WP8.1
Deb's than others.  You can try an earlier version.

#9210 -Installing WordPerfect« 8 Under New Linux Distributions

This document will provide information on installing WordPerfect« 8
under the latest RedHat Linux, Mandrake Linux and SuSE Linux.
Foreknowledge of RPM package installation is required.

RedHat

1. Download and install the ld.so-1.9.5-13.i386.rpm package.

2. Download and install the libc-5.3.12-31.i386.rpm package.

3. Run the ldconfig command to regenerate the library list.

4. Follow the standard installation instructions provided with
WordPerfect« 8 .



Mandrake

1. Download and install the ld.so-1.9.11-4mdk.i586.rpm package, part of
the Mandrake Cooker project.

2. Install the libc-5.3.12-35mdk.i586.rpm package from the installation
CD.

3. Run the ldconfig command to regenerate the library list.

4. Follow the standard installation instructions provided with
WordPerfect« 8 .


SuSE

1. Install the shlibs5 package from the SuSE FTP server for SuSE 7.2,
the file off the installation disk #2 does not contain the necessary
configurations. See http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/wordperfect72.html
for more details. For SuSE Linux versions other than 7.2, the
distributed shlibs5.rpm will function.

2. Run the ldconfig command to regenerate the library list.  (Note: this
step is not really necessary if you install shlibs with SuSE's YAST,
which I recommend.)

3. Follow the standard installation instructions provided with
WordPerfect« 8 .

--
Leon A. Goldstein

Powered by Libranet 2.7 Debian
System LI



Newsgroups: corel.WordPerfect_older_versions
From: AAW <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: installing WP8.1 under RedHat 9.0
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 16:36:57 -0500
User-Agent: KNode/0.7.7

Leon,

Couple of points:

1) ld.so is in cookers contrib directory, as opposed to cooker main.

2) libc5 isn't necessary for 8.1, which contain its own libraries. In
fact, the package can mess up macros if it's installed and listed
before /usr/lib/wp8/wpbin in /etc/ld.so.conf.

Regards,
Arn


Newsgroups: corel.WordPerfect_older_versions
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 18:23:03 -0400
From: "Leon A. Goldstein" <[e-mail]>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.23 i686)
Subject: Re: installing WP8.1 under RedHat 9.0

The old Corel help page, as it states, was for WP 8.  It is old, no
longer displayed on Corel's website, and undoubtedly no longer valid for
some distributions.

WP8.1, as provided by CLOS 1 or 1.2, can be made to run using its own
static support libs on some distributions.  My original how-to on the
SxS site describes this.  The last, limited WP8 release, which is WP8.1
with a new installer and  support libs,  needs no additional user
intervention to install and run.

--
Leon A. Goldstein

Powered by Libranet 2.8 Debian Linux
System LI




Newsgroups: corel.WordPerfect_older_versions
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:48:38 -1000
From: Ping-Wu Zhang <[e-mail]>
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; zh-TW; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041020
Subject: Re: WPLinux and too many processes
In-Reply-To: <419ad8a8$1_3@cnews>

@(none) wrote:

> Now when I start WP I receive an error message stating:
>
> "Cannot create a new process:  You may have exceeded either the user
> or system limit for the number of active processes.  Or the executable
> may not be in its proper directory"

> Michael Galvin

This appears to be a kernel issue.  I have experienced the same problem
in FC2 when upgraded to the 2.6.8-1.521 kernel.  WP8 works OK when I
boot back into the 2.6.7-1.494 kernel.  I don't know whether there is
something that was changed in the kernel itself that's causing the
problem, or it was simply a compilation issue.  (I have not had time to
look at the kernel configuration files.)


Additionally, when running WP8 with the 2.6.8-1.521 kernel in FC2, I
wasn't able to do anything. The system would freeze solid.  In FC3
(2.6.9-1.667 kernel), I saw the error message, but I was able to do
everything (seemingly) except printing.




Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 23:33:20 +0100
From: "J.A. de Vries" <[e-mail]>
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X-Accept-Language: nl, en-us, en
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Newsgroups: corel.WordPerfect_older_versions
Subject: Re: NewsGroups

> Which reminds me:  Judging by names, none of the new hierarchy seems
> likely to house the former corel.linux.corellinux newsgroup's
> contents.  Am I missing something, or were they summarily given the
> heave-ho with no advance notice?

Rick,
The old WP for linux group can be found at:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&group=corel.wpoffice.wordperfect8-lin
ux
Also WPO4linux can be found in the google groups.



Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:06:14 +0800
From: Glen Lund <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: RPM for Corel WordPerfect 8

Hi Rick, I have just been your excellent FAQ on WordPerfect for Linux. I
have found a repository for the WordPerfect RPM so I thought I would
pass it on to you so that you could include it on your FAQ next time you
updated it. I found the WP8 RPM on
http://xfiles.erin.utoronto.ca/pub/unix/redhat/6.0/WordPerfect/ this is
version 8.01 and includes language files in RPM format. I hope this is
of use.

Regards
Glen



Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 19:03:51 +0100 (IST)
From: Paul Jakma <[e-mail]>
To: Niall O Broin <[e-mail]>
Cc: Irish Linux Users Group <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [ILUG] Xen
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,
        SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL autolearn=no version=3.0.2

On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Niall O Broin wrote:

>xen IS cute, no doubt, but it's not vmware - it's not really in the
>same space, unlike say Bochs.

None of them are quite like each other.

Vmware: x86 fully virtualised on x86, code runs natively as much as
        possible, hardware is emulated.

Bochs: x86 fully virtualised in reasonably portable C code, x86 code
       runs very slowly. Hardware is emulated.

Qemu: Similar to bochs, but JIT optimisations make it /much/ faster
      than Bochs. Hardware is emulated.

Xen: OS virtualisation, using some hardware tricks - on x86, done by
     running guest kernels in ring-1 or 2, cant remember which, with
     a small, Linux derived, arbitrator running ring-0. All
     code runs native. Hardware is not emulated, instead one of the
     ring-2 kernels, called domain-0, provides services
     (block device, networking) to guest kernels using a message
     passing facility provided by the underlying Xen kernel.

     Requires that guest kernels:
        a) are ported to be able to boot in ring-1/2 (whichever it is)
        b) have "device drivers" written for them so they can use
           the Xen message passing facilities to do IO

Guest ports exist for:
        Linux
        NetBSD
        FreeBSD (not sure of status)
        Solaris (not yet public)

Support for running as domain-0 exists for Linux and NetBSD.

Coming Soon: Both Intel and AMD are adding a VM to x86, essentially a
ring-'-1' that can be setup to trap ring-0. Xen runs in this ring -1
mode (VMM) and runs either ported (aka "HyperVirtualised") guest
kernels, or will use Qemu derived hardware emulation code to run
unmodified guests (ie Windows and any other x86 OS which supports
IDE, Cirrus video and RTL8139 networking - the devices implemented by
qemu to date).

Qemu is very nice, works really well. I've used it to play with
Windows98, FreeBSD, NetBSD..

Xen is fairly nice too and comes with FC4. Though, the networking
seems borked wrt iptables+bridging on domain0, at least in how FC4
sets it up (or maybe FC4 xen0 kernel).



Will want to note upcoming ability of Xen to virtualise MS-Windows on
suitable CPUs.  Can then run Corel WP 10,11,12 for Windows.


Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 15:09:24 -0400
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <[e-mail]>
To: The Answer Gang <[e-mail]>
Organization: Ashworth & Associates, St Pete FL USA
Subject: Re: [TAG] segmentation fault
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00
autolearn=ham
        version=3.0.2
Reply-To: The Answer Gang <[e-mail]>

On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 08:25:19AM -0700, Mike Orr wrote:
> I suspect you have a library version mismatch.  Run "ldd hardinfo"
> from
> both accounts and note whether the library paths are the same.  It
> could
> be that the user account is finding stray obsolete libraries, or it
> doesn't have permission to read the correct libraries.

Just a quick side trip: I had to install WP8 for a client last week.
In addition to needing libc5, it needs ld-linux.so.*1*, instead of the
current .2.

And if you don't have ld-linux.so.1 *in /lib*, ldd won't even read the
libraries out of the file.  And you get *weird* errors when you try to
run it.

Just in case anyone ever gets bitten by this.

Cheers,
-- jra


Keyserver was taken down, some time during 2005.

http://www.wpuniverse.com/



From: mrmdls <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6.338
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:21:26 -0400
Subject: Great Site! - Something that you may be interested in

Rick,

I just discovered your wonderful site from an article that was posted on
lxer.com, and I got real curious, as I used to run Word Perfect 8 on
both Corel and Progeny Linux. Anyway, I have a copy of WP8.1 (in which
the actual package name is wpx-free_0.0.87_i386.deb) from the Offical
Corel Linux Starter Kit (book) from which I was able to make an i586 rpm
package using alien (still need to use the libs that your site links
to). (Alien also makes an i386 rpm.)  Also there is a copy of WP8 Red
Hat 6.0 i386 rpm currently on the web.

Kindest Regards,

Dave Southern



Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:08:08 -0700
From: James Richard Tyrer <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: WP-8.1 for Linux, GLibc--2.3.6, XFree86-4.5

Technical problems department:

After I upgraded to GLibc-2.3.6 and XFree86-4.5, it no longer works.  It
crashes immediately when the small widow appears with the message:

        Segmentation fault

So, I ran Gdb and I get this message:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0xb7f6b002 in free () from /usr/lib/wp8/wpbin/libc.so.5

IIUC, the memory allocation API changed slightly and this is the cause.

I presume that the fix would be to modify: "libc.so.5" so that it was
compatible with the new version of GLibc.

--
JRT



Date:   Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:10:03 +0200
From: Olli Tammilehto <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: new debelopemnts concerning wp in linux

Thanks a lot for your wp for linux FAQ, which I used when installed wp 8
to my earlier Linux. The reasons I did not install wp8 it to my present
Linux desktops are that:
    1. OpenOffice 2 reads quite well WP-files.
    2. It is possible to install WP12 to Linux through CrossOverOffice.
(Macros do not work, otherwise it functions.)

    Should't you add these facts to your FAQ?

       Best wishes,
             Olli Tammilehto

--
______________________________________________________________
Olli Tammilehto, Baklurantie 6 D, FIN-10470 Fiskars, Finland
puh./tel. t./w: [phone]; k./h: - 237 035
email: [e-mail];  WorldWideWeb:
http://www.tammilehto.info  or http://www.saunalahti.fi/otammile




Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 15:45:07 -0700
From: "Dr. Yasha Karant,JB-344,[phone]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: WP 8 linux current
To: [e-mail]
Reply-to: [e-mail]

Rick,

I have a licensed copy of WP 8 for linux.  I have installed the various
compatability libraries, and have had WP for linux perfectly operational
(save for known issues with later format conversions from MS Word DOC
and the like) until I upgraded to the latest Centos 4.x with a 2.6.x
kernel.  Now, WP runs, but refuses to print, etc., because of a Cannot
create new process error.  I am MIME attaching a TIFF file that allows
you to read the full diagnostic.  Is there a fix, or is WP "dead"?

Thanks.

Yasha Karant


Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:43:49 -0400
From: "L.S. McCarty" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Wordperfect 8.x broken by Xorg 7

Rick,

Thank you for maintaining the WP on Linux FAQ, I have found it extremely
 useful over the past few years after I moved from OS/2 to Linux. I'm
currently running Kanotix 2005-04 which is essentially Debian testing.
I've managed to get WP8 running on Xandros, Mepis, and now Kanotix,
however, I've run into the problem noted by Patrick Wiseman
(http://ul451.gsu.edu/~pwiseman/WP8_and_Debian_GNU_Linux.html) in his
June Update.

When I tried to update to Xorg 7.0 from 6.9 WP8 will not run, crashing
with a segmentation fault. I tried a installing WP8 on a newer clean
install of Kanotix Easter 2006 (2.6.16 and Xorg 7) but ended up with the
same problem. I'm back on Xorg 6.9 but would like to solve the problem.

I think that others will soon face this issue as various distributions
move to Xorg 7.x. Wiseman indicated that he resolved his problem by
creating some symlinks. I tried a bit of this but don't know enough to
be sure if I am doing the right thing. Some more detailed directions are
needed.

As a WP for Linux guru I thought I would bring it to your attention as
you may know how to resolve this or know someone who does. If WP is to
continue to be useful on Linux this issue will need to be resolved.


Thanks!


Lynn McCarty


--
SENT BY: Lynn Scott McCarty
         Markham, ON, Canada
         lsmccarty "at" rogers "dot" com



From [e-mail] Fri Oct 27 12:45:57 2006
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:45:29 -0400
From: "L.S. McCarty" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: New XWP problem when running Xorg

Rick,

I have used your FAQ on WP for Linux over the last couple of years and
have found it quite informative and useful. With your FAQ and other
noted from various people on the web I have managed to get WP8 running
on all versions of Linux (Xandros, Mephis, and now Kanotix) since moving
from OS/2 and WP for OS/2.

I have recently run into a showstopper. I am running Kanotix 2005-04
mostly updated, including the latest kernel (2.6.18.1-kanotix1) and WP8
runs fine. However, I am using Xorg 6.9. as soon as I try Xorg 7.0 and
more recently Xorg 7.1 xwp starts, the WP logo comes up in the centre of
the screen, and the as the WordPerfect 2 file menu window opens in the
upper right it crashes. If I run xwp from a console window it indicates
"Segmentation fault".


P Wiseman indicated in an update of his WP8 advice:

20060620 UPDATE:  After a recent testing upgrade, WP8 was broken.  At
first, it was throwing a 'floating point exception' and then it was
exiting prematurely with a 'segmentation fault'.  Using 'strace ./xwp'
from my wp8 directory, I found that it was bailing out when it could not
find locale.alias and locale.dir.  The symlink to the 'locale' directory
in /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/lib/X11/ was broken; I created a new symlink to
/usr/share/X11/locale/ and WP8 works again.  (I also corrected a broken
link to 'app-defaults' but I don't think that had anything to do with
the problem.)  [I'm just hoping that future upgrades won't break those
links again!]


I tried this fix (as best as I could figure it out) but to no avail.

I'm sure that I am not the only one with this problem and I am not sure
that it is fixable. However, as the maintainer of the WP* FAQ I thought
I'd pass it on to you and see if there is anyone who knows how to keep
WP8 running as Linux evolves.

Thanks for any additional assistance you may be able to provide.

Sincerely,
Lynn McCarty




Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:04:39 -0400
From: "Frederick W. Koehler" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Wordperfect on Linux FAQ:  WP81 under Fedora 8

I don't know if you're still maintaining the WP on Linux FAQ, but I just
wanted to mention the following 'hack' to get WP81 up and running...

Under Fedora 8 (with kernel 2.6.24.4-64.fc8) I was finally able to get
WP81 running. I diagnosed the problem using strace ./xwp from the wpbin
directory. This showed a number of files not found while xwp was
starting up, right before the segmentation fault was reported. These
were files it was trying to load from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/.

Under Fedora 8, these files are now located here:
/usr/share/X11/locale/locale.alias.

There's likely a more elegant solution, but I simply created the
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale subdirectory and then from that directory did
the following:  ln -s /usr/share/X11/locale/* .

The result was a working xwp!  It seems it has some of these paths
hardcoded and can't recover if it can't find them.

Frederick Koehler
[e-mail]