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- VIRUS-L Digest Tuesday, 12 Jun 1990 Volume 3 : Issue 112
-
- Today's Topics:
-
- George of the Jungle virus????? (Mac)
- More George of the Jungle... (Mac)
- Flushot version? (PC)
- SNEAK - a virus? (Mac)
- Re: Creation of New Viruses to Sell Product
- Re: Documented mainframe viral attacks
- What's the best pc clone virus protection pgm? (PC)
- The "Tiny" virus (PC)
- Hardware security
- - Virus's and Solutions
- Inbound File Filters (IBM Mainframes)
- NETSC63B.ZIP in Simtel Archives (PC)
-
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-
- Ken van Wyk
-
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-
- Date: 11 Jun 90 14:54:01 +0000
- From: hemstree@handel.CS.Colostate.Edu (charles he hemstreet)
- Subject: George of the Jungle virus????? (Mac)
-
- I work at a computer lab here on campus, and we had someone come in
- and ask about this.. I may not ahve this totally correct...
-
- WHAT IT DOES.....
-
- 1. It's a file in the system folder...
-
- 2. If you open it (it say's it's a word perfect document) it causes the
- system to crash and gives message that says it can't open it, and that
- it needs wordperfect to open it. (Opposite order listed)
-
- 3. Comes and goes, not consistent. First noticed it on Friday the 8th.
-
- 4. Not associated with anything purchased.
-
- 5. Seems to have quite a bit of activity.
-
- 6. Virus protection and disinfectant schemes don't seem to care that
- it's around.
-
-
- I know this is vague. Please help me ask the person the correct
- questions so I can help you out more. Is there any kind of
- standardized virus report form?
-
- Thanks for your help. We are currently trying to obtain a copy of
- this thing. Still not sure if it's a virus or not.
-
- Thanks for your help...
-
- Chip
-
- !===========================================================================!
- ! Charles H. Hemstreet IV !internet: hemstree@handel.cs.Colostate.Edu !
- ! Colorado State University ! "stay out of trouble!" -RoboCop !
- !===========================================================================!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Jun 90 15:07:29 +0000
- From: hemstree@handel.CS.Colostate.Edu (charles he hemstreet)
- Subject: More George of the Jungle... (Mac)
-
- Well, I'm not sure what I've got here, but may not be as serious as I
- thought. We have got a copy here at the lab. It's has the
- WordPerfect feather on a trashcan Icon. I opened it on an isolated SE
- by double-clicking on the trash/feather icon. WordPerfect complains
- that it can't open this kind of document. On the isolated SE,
- WordPerfect goes ahead and opens an untitled document.
-
- Is this a standard WordPerfect Icon? The person found this document
- in his system folder. I have a copy on floppy if anyone would care to
- look at it.
-
- Chip
-
- !===========================================================================!
- ! Charles H. Hemstreet IV !internet: hemstree@handel.cs.Colostate.Edu !
- ! Colorado State University ! "stay out of trouble!" -RoboCop !
- !===========================================================================!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 08:26:50 -0700
- From: Robert Slade <USERQBPP@SFU.BITNET>
- Subject: Flushot version? (PC)
-
- I have seen a copy of FSP_17.ARC on wuarchive.wustl.edu. The latest
- version I was aware of was 1.6. Ross having not been terribly active
- on the list lately, does anyone know if this is legit?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 17:14:45 +0000
- From: mrys@ethz.UUCP,
- mrys@ethz.UUCP (Michael Rys)
- Subject: SNEAK - a virus? (Mac)
-
- Configuration:
-
- Mac II and Mac IIcx connected over TOPS.
-
- There were some problems with printing, saving, opening files etc.
- Using Disinfectant 1.8 did not find any viri. Interferon 3.1
- reported a SNEAK virus. Some time ago, somebody said this is not aa
- virus.
-
- What is it then?!!!
-
- Any help appreciated.../Michael
-
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- | Michael Rys, V. Conzett Str. 34; CH-8004 Zuerich; Switzerland |
- +---------------------------------------------------------------+
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- +---------------------------------------------------------------+
- - -- Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss man schweigen. --
- Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus logico-philosophicus
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Jun 90 19:45:54 +0000
- From: mike@client2.DRETOR (Mike Cummings )
- Subject: Re: Creation of New Viruses to Sell Product
-
- WHMurray@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL writes:
- >>This leaves a greater potential for companies to profit from the
- >>creation of new viruses.
- >
- >New viruses do not sell product. Old viruses sell product. There
- >are not enough copies of a new virus to be noticed.
-
- This is true in the short term, but every virus has to start small, even
- the biggest and most prolific. A company looking far to its future -
- ie. a couple of years, might stand to benifit from such a policy.
-
- I'd hate to think that it would happen though - it's pretty morally
- reprehensible. It's like a drug company developing and releasing new
- diseases, just to keep up the demand for new medicines. On the other
- hand, I don't think that it is too likely. There are two reasons for
- this:
- (i) the dangers for the company are too great. If any news of such
- activity was leaked or discovered, it would be curtains in a big way.
- Such security compromises are just too likely for the company to risk
- it.
- (ii) more impiortantly perhaps, is that companies distributing virus
- scanners are unlikely to need to resort to such tactics. We don't seem
- to have any lack of new viruses out there. Hackers seem only too ready
- to write, and worse yet, distribute viruses. Until we educate such
- criminals in responsible use of computers, virus scanners will be a
- healthy business.
-
- - ------->>>>>>>>>>>>> mike%zorac@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 02:16:17 +0000
- From: peter@ficc.ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
- Subject: Re: Documented mainframe viral attacks
-
- [ Supposed mainframe virus attacks ]
-
- > The ones that come to my mind (and I believe all have been reported
- > here) are the XMAS, BUL, 4PLAY, and HEADACHE execs on VM/CMS and the
- > RTM worm and WANK worm on Unix.
-
- I don't know about the others, but the XMAS was a trojan horse worm, RTM was
- a directly attacking worm, and the WANK worm was on VAX/VMS, not UNIX.
-
- All of these, I believe, used network utilities and mail programs to infect
- hosts.
- - --
- `-_-' Peter da Silva. +1 713 274 5180. <peter@ficc.ferranti.com>
- 'U` Have you hugged your wolf today? <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>
- @FIN Dirty words: Zhghnyyl erphefvir vayvar shapgvbaf.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Jun 90 22:48:00 -0500
- From: "55SRWLGS" <55srwlgs@sacemnet.af.mil>
- Subject: What's the best pc clone virus protection pgm? (PC)
-
- Like to get some opinions on this one. If you could only get
- one program for your pc/pc-xt/pc-at or clone, what would it be? This
- is dicey, I know, what with viruses constantly evolving.
- Recently a lot of folks have been leaning towards McAffee's
- SCAN program. Then there was one by a fellow, whose name escapes me
- right now. He was offering a reward of a cache of free software to
- whomever turned in a virus programmer, and helped get him/her arrested
- and convicted.
- Anyway, appreciate a lot of opinions, and experiences, good or
- bad. I think we may be getting up a site liscense deal, and so I need
- some help towards getting the best for the buck.
-
- Frank Starr
- Omaha, Nebraska (55srwlgs@saacemnet.af.mil>"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 90 09:54:01 +0000
- From: frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason)
- Subject: The "Tiny" virus (PC)
-
- Among the 10 (or so) new PC viruses which have appeared this month is
- one which is by far the smallest one known - only 163 bytes.
-
- It is very primitive - does not restore the original date/time of
- infected files for example. In fact, it does nothing but replicate.
-
- The virus infects only .COM files, by adding itself to the end and
- placing a 3-byte JMP at the beginning. When an infected program is
- run, the virus will search the current directory for a program to
- infect.
-
- "Tiny" seems to be based on the Kennedy virus, and was sent to me from
- Denmark by the same person who sent me a sample of Kennedy.
-
- - -frisk
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 11 Jun 90 15:01:33 +0000
- From: <GLWARNER@SAMFORD.BITNET>
- Subject: Hardware security
-
- I have had a quote attributed to me that was not mine. I would
- appreciate it greatly if people would get their facts straight before
- posting messages. And don't whine about your Mail program not working
- right. If it doesn't work, trash it!
-
- The quote that was attributed to me was actually posted by Mike
- Cummings. The person who falsely paired me to this quote was Valdis
- Kletnieks.
-
- Now to reply to Valdis:
-
- I agree with Mike! This is a stupid thing to do! What is the
- point of having hardware protection if it is so easy to defeat!
- Perhaps you are not familiar with the PS/2s. Some of them can
- have the case removed in under 15 seconds, and the wire could be
- swapped in another 3. Close the case in another 15. Copy a diskette
- in one minute. Power the machine off.
-
- There!!! In less than two minutes in your office, I can steal
- confidential files off your hard drive that you THOUGHT were protected
- by hardware protection. I can do that during the day while you walk
- to the coffee pot and back. If however, I had to disable your machine
- for two hours to eliminate your password, it would be MUCH more obvious
- that something was happening.
- Or do you lock your door every time you leave your office?
-
- Later
- THE GAR
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 12 Jun 90 09:30:34 +0700
- From: <D03G001@SAKSU00.BITNET>
- Subject: - Virus's and Solutions
-
- I have 2 questions about viruses please can some body answer??
-
- q1. There is a virus which reduce speed of booting plus reduce
- capacity of drive i.e you can't read high density diskette drive on it
- will be only 360k. What is the virus name and what is the solution???
-
- q2. Virus lives in memory when you put system off you can't get rod
- off it, It will go to clock ROM chip!! Is there any solution other
- than disconnecting battery??
-
- Thanks in advance
-
- Azim Syed
- Systems Programmer
- Riyadh Saudi Arabia
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 17:50:24 -0400
- From: "David F. Lambert" <LAMBERT@MITVMA.BITNET>
- Subject: Inbound File Filters (IBM Mainframes)
-
- >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 90 17:52:36 -0400
- >From: Arthur Gutowski <AGUTOWS@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
- >Subject: RE: Documented mainframe viral attacks
- >
- >spoelhof@newkodak.kodak.com (Gordon Spoelhof) asks:
- >.
- >.
- >>5. What preventative measures are taken?
- >
- >One, never trust unexpected files from unknown sources. Even though it may
- >not be a virus or worm as such, it has the potential of being a Trojan.
- >Two, monitor Virus-L/Valert-L for warnings of new/recurring problems.
- >Three, make sure your operations and tech support staff monitor things
- >like (on VM) spool space filling up with a certain filename, perhaps even
- >setting up filters in RSCS to reject all such files (when a confirmed report
- >is received). News facilities to spread the word to users to be on the
- >lookout for such a file also help.
- >These are things that we've done to keep attacks to a minimum.
-
- I just saw an IBM announcement a week or two ago which mentioned free
- security enhancements for RSCS. Several of these features looked
- pretty useless, except for one which provides the file filter
- mentioned above. That seems like a useful hunk of code to help nip
- things quickly.
- -Dave
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 11 Jun 90 22:53:00 -0400
- From: <SANTO@SENECA.BITNET>
- Subject: NETSC63B.ZIP in Simtel Archives (PC)
-
- Maybe I missed the little write up on Virus-L about the new Netscan but why
- the new version? I looked in the documentation and it doesn't say anything
- about the "B" version. Maybe the moderator can quickly clear this up for me?
- Thanks.
- Santo Nucifora (SANTO@SENCA.BITNET)
-
- P.S. Just being a little cautious :-)
-
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