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- ==Phrack Magazine==
-
- Volume Four, Issue Forty-Four, File 23 of 27
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-
- The LOD Communications Underground H/P BBS Message Base Project:
- Information and Order Form File Version #2, 7/30/93
-
-
- This file contains:
-
- - Background information on the project;
- - Excerpts from Computer underground Digest (CuD) Issue #5.39;
- - UPDATED FAQ AND PRICING; and,
- - UPDATED Order form and stipulations.
-
- This is an update of Version #1 of this file. A change in pricing
- structure (to your benefit) has been made along with some additions to the
- FAQ among other things. All sections that have been changed/updated are
- bordered by 3 asterisks (*** ___ ***). Please take the time to read through
- the updates. Sections without asterisks have not been changed and are
- essentially the same as in Version #1. This file is approximately ten pages
- in length (28K) and should answer all of your questions.
-
-
- The Project:
- ------------
-
- Throughout history, physical objects have been preserved for posterity for
- the benefit of the next generation of humans. Cyberspace, however, isn't very
- physical; data contained on floppy diskettes has a finite lifetime as does the
- technology to retrieve that data. The earliest underground hacker bulletin
- board systems operated at a time when TRS-80s, Commodore 64s, and Apple ][s
- were state-of-the-art. Today, it is difficult to find anyone who has one of
- these machines in operating condition, not to mention the brain cells left to
- recall how to operate them. :-(
-
- LOD Communications has created a historical library of the "dark" portion of
- Cyberspace. The project's goal is to acquire as much information as possible
- from underground Hack/Phreak (H/P) bulletin boards that were in operation
- during a decade long period, dating from the beginnings (in 1980/81 with 8BBS
- and MOM: Modem Over Manhattan) to the legendary OSUNY, Plover-NET, Legion of
- Doom!, Metal Shop, etc. up through the Phoenix Project circa 1989/90.
- Currently, messages from over 50 different BBSes have been retrieved, although
- very few message bases are 100% complete. However, not having a complete "set"
- does not diminish their value.
-
-
- Who Benefits From This Information?:
- ------------------------------------
-
- - PARTICIPANTS who were on the various H/P BBSes may want to see their
- contribution to history or reminisce about the "golden era" of hacking;
-
- - ENTHUSIASTS who came into the "scene" after most of these boards were
- down may want to see what they missed;
-
- - COMPANIES who may want to see if their (or their competitors') phone
- systems, computers, or networks were compromised;
-
- - SECURITY PROFESSIONALS/LAW ENFORCEMENT who may want to see what
- techniques were used to subvert computer security systems;
-
- - SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES (including their libraries) who may want to
- use the information for research in sociology or computer science as
- well as for educational purposes in courses such as Computer Law,
- Computer Ethics, and Computer Security;
-
- - AUTHORS/PRESS who may want to finally get the facts straight about
- "hackers"; and,
-
- - THE CURIOUS PUBLIC who may want to sneak a peek into the inner realm of
- the Computer Underground, especially those Restricted Access BBSes and
- their Private sub-boards where only a small handful of "the best"
- resided.
-
- Were the individuals involved in the Computer Underground out to start World
- War III, selling secrets to the Soviets, working with organized crime,
- conspiring to do evil, or just a bunch of bored teenagers with nothing better
- to do? How much did they know, and how did they find it out? Did they have
- the capability to shut down phone service of Area Code portions? Could
- they ruin someone's credit? Could they "move satellites in the heavens?"
- Could they monitor packet switching network conversations or YOUR
- conversations? The answers lie within the messages themselves.
-
-
- *** Why is LODCOM Charging Money For The Message Bases?: ***
- ------------------------------------------------------------
-
- As happens with most projects, the effort and monetary investment turned
- out to be substantially more than originally anticipated. With all of the
- high-tech equipment available today, people sometimes forget that in the early
- 1980s, 14.4K baud modems and 250 MB hard drives were just a fantasy for the
- home computer user. Most messages Lodcom has recovered were downloaded at 300
- baud onto 143K disk drives, with each file usually no larger than 15K in size.
- One could not call a BBS and download the complete message base in 10 minutes
- and save it into one file. Literally hundreds of man-hours have been spent
- copying dusty Apple ][ disks, transferring them to IBM (or typing in hard
- copy versions when electronic versions were unavailable), organizing over one
- thousand individual files (thus far) according to what BBS the messages were
- originally posted on, and splicing the files together. Also, after consulting
- with the appropriate civil liberties organizations and our own legal counsel,
- a slight editing of the messages (restricted to long distance access codes,
- phone numbers, and computer passwords) had to be made to ensure that there is
- nothing illegal contained within the messages. Every effort was made to keep
- the messages in their pristine condition: 40 columns, ALL CAPS, spelling
- errors, offensive language, inaccuracies of various kinds, and ALL.
-
- Although a fairly comprehensive collection of the goings-on during a decade
- of public and private computer underground activity has been accomplished,
- there are more messages out there. It is our wish to continue to document the
- History of the Computer Underground. In order to do this, and in order to
- break even on what resources have already been expended (it is a LOT more than
- most people realize), a dollar value has been attached to the entire
- compilation of message bases (ie, all Volumes combined). Without your
- understanding and support, this effort may not be able to sustain itself long
- enough to complete the project. A large portion of any profits will be
- recycled for two other projects in the works, whose aim is to provide
- additional historical background on the Computer Underground Community. That
- is, no one involved is quitting their day job :-)
-
- DONATIONS: A portion of every order will be donated to the following causes:
-
- 1) A donation will be made to help pay for Craig Neidorf's
- (Knight Lightning - Metal Shop Private Co-Sysop) Legal Defense
- bills (resulting from his successful campaign to protect First
- Amendment rights for electronic publishing, i.e. the
- PHRACK/E911 case).
-
- 2) The SotMESC Scholarship Fund. The SotMESC Scholarship is
- awarded to students writing exceptional papers of 20 to 30
- pages on a topic based on computer culture (ie, hacking
- culture, virus writing culture, Internet culture, etc.) For
- more details write: SotMESC PO BOX 573 Long Beach, MS 39560
- or email: rejones@seabass.st.usm.edu
-
-
- What Each "Message Base File" Contains:
- ---------------------------------------
-
- - A two page general message explaining H/P BBS terminology and format.
-
- - The BBS Pro-Phile: A historical background and description of the BBS
- either written by the original system operator(s) or those who actually
- called the BBS when it was in operation (it took months to track the
- appropriate people down and get them to write these specifically for
- this project; lesser known BBSes may not contain a Pro-Phile);
-
- - Messages posted to the BBS (i.e. the Message Base);
-
- - Downloaded Userlists if available; and
-
- - Hacking tutorials a.k.a. "G-Philes" that were on-line if available.
-
- It is anticipated that most people who are interested in the message bases
- have never heard of a lot of the BBS names shown in the listing. If you have
- seen one set of messages, you have NOT seen them ALL. Each system had a
- unique personality, set of users, and each has something different to offer.
-
-
- Formats the Message Base Files are Available in:
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- Due to the large size of the Message Base Files, they will be compressed
- using the format of your choice. Please note that Lodcom does NOT include the
- compression/uncompression program (PKZIP, PAK, etc.). ASCII (uncompressed)
- files will be provided for $5.00 extra to cover additional diskette (files
- that are uncompressed require more than double the number of diskettes) and
- shipping costs. The files are available for:
-
- - IBM (5.25 or 3.5 inch)
- - AMIGA (3.5 inch)
- - APPLE MACINTOSH (3.5 inch)
- - PAPER versions can be ordered but cost triple (due to increased shipping
- costs, time to print order, and messages being in 40 column format and
- therefore wasting lots of paper...save those trees!). Paper versions
- take twice the time to deliver but are laser printed.
-
- Orders are expected to arrive at the requesters' physical mail box in 3-5
- weeks upon receipt of the order.
-
-
- *** FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions): ***
- ------------------------------------------
-
- QUESTION: In VERSION #1 of this file a minimum order size of $20.00 was
- required but I don't see that in this version. Also all the
- individual Message Bases had a price. Why the change?
-
- ANSWER: After disseminating the first version of this information file, we
- received a very good response as far as orders are concerned. Since
- our goal is to recoup the expenses incurred (and still incurring)
- on this project rather than 'fleece the masses' it was decided to
- lower the overall price which translates to offering more files for
- the same old price. That is, you will receive ALL Volumes of this
- project for $39.00 rather than just the 1st Volume as was mentioned
- in the last release of this information file. As for the minimum
- order ($20.00), since EVERYONE who has thus far ordered the Message
- Bases ordered the complete volume (was Volume #1 only, now it's all
- volumes) rather than individual message bases, we decided to do
- away with individual Message Base pricing due to lack of demand.
-
- QUESTION: How many Volumes will Lodcom be releasing?
-
- ANSWER: Three Volumes minimum, possibly a fourth if additional material
- is obtained. There are still a few contributors who have material
- that hasn't been sent to us yet. The expected release of future
- Volumes are:
-
- Volume 1: 5700+ Messages, 20 H/P BBSes, COMPLETED.
- Volume 2: 15-25 H/P BBSes, September 1993.
- Volume 3: 15-25 H/P BBSes, November 1993.
- Volume 4: If there is one, End of December 1993.
- All in all there is expected to be 15000+ Messages.
-
- QUESTION: How long will these Message Base Files be available?
-
- ANSWER: We cannot say for sure. This is an ongoing effort and your support
- will allow us to continue until we are satisfied with having
- recovered the last decent scraps of messages out there. Assuming
- there is a demand for these messages, all H/P BBSes of WORTH (i.e.
- NON-"codez" and NON-"warez" systems) are expected to be offered by
- the end of this year (1993). A Guesstimate of what will be
- offered is 60 to 80 Message Bases, half of which will be rather
- partial. Orders are expected to be filled at least into the
- beginning of next year (1994) although this may change. Regardless,
- we will send out notification well in advance of ceasing operations.
-
- QUESTION: I ordered Volume #1 already, is your new pricing retroactive?
-
- ANSWER: Yes. If you have already ordered Volume #1, when the next Volume
- is completed it will be sent out to you without any action on your
- part. If you change mailing addresses be sure to notify us. Think
- of this as a Subscription of sorts. Order now and all completed
- Volumes will be sent to you. When another Volume is finished it
- will be sent out automatically. If it wasn't for all of you who
- have already ordered and showed your support, we would not be able
- to offer ALL the Volumes for what you paid for the first Volume.
-
- QUESTION: What if lodcom obtains more messages from a BBS or BBSes after
- a Volume has been shipped to me, will I get those messages also?
-
- ANSWER: Yes. Any additional messages to a H/P BBS that we obtain after
- shipping that BBS file to you will be sent to you either via email
- or via snail mail on another diskette.
-
- QUESTION: I would really like to get a feel for what a few of the
- boards were like before I order them. Can I get more info?
-
- ANSWER: Yes. A Sample of actual messages is available by performing the
- following, so long as you have TELNET access to the Internet:
-
- Telnet to: phantom.com (or) 198.67.3.2
- Type: mindvox [To enter the Mindvox system]
- login as: guest [To look around]
- At prompt: finger lodcom [To see our Sample Messages File]
-
- If you do not have TELNET access to the Internet, AND your host will NOT
- "bounce" a 50K file, Lodcom will send you the Sample Messages File if you
- specifically request it. The file has 31 fairly typical messages from Five
- H/P BBSes that operated between 1983 and 1989.
-
- QUESTION: "Can I help out? I have some old messages" (either on a C64,
- Apple, IBM [best for us], or printout).
-
- ANSWER: Contact us ASAP! We will work out an equitable agreement depending
- on the quantity, quality, format, and "ancientness" of the
- messages. Your contribution will not go unrecognized.
-
- QUESTION: I would like another person's point of view on this project
- before I decide to order. Where can I get more information?
-
- ANSWER: See the following excerpt from Cud #5.39. We also list where you
- can get the original CuD issue which also includes an interview and
- some BBS Pro-philes.
-
-
- *** CuD Excerpts: ***
- ---------------------
-
- Computer underground Digest Sun May 30 1993 Volume 5 : Issue 39
- ISSN 1004-042X
-
- Editors: Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer (TK0JUT2@NIU.BITNET)
-
- CONTENTS, #5.39 (May 30 1993)
- File 1--The LOD Files - A CuD Critique
- File 2--Histories of BBSes (excerpts from the LOD files)
- File 3--LOD Project Summary and Contact Information
- File 4--An Interview with the LOD
-
- Cu-Digest is a weekly electronic journal/newsletter.
- Issues of CuD can be found in the Usenet comp.society.cu-digest news group.
- U.S. Anonymous FTP: ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4) in /pub/cud directory.
- Back issues may be obtained through mailserver at: server@blackwlf.mese.com
-
- *** {The following excerpts are from CuD #5.39 File 1, CuD's Critique} ***
-
- "...Lest there be any confusion, there remains only one LOD, most of its
- original members are in periodic contact, they have long since become
- adults, and there is no relationship between the original LOD and any
- recent individuals or groups claiming the name.
-
- But who really cares??
-
- CuD, for one cares. The original LOD remains a cultural icon of the
- 1980s in computer culture, and--for better or worse--it was the most
- influential and imitated group whose mystique continues into the
- mid-90s. This alone is hardly sufficient reason to worry about a
- label. The identity is important because the original members are
- becoming involved in projects that reflects their activities of a
- decade ago, and it becomes confusing when others scurry about trying
- to associate with that identity. If questions of identity arise,
- confusion over and doubts about the credibility of the projects arise.
-
- One current LOD project has impressed us. The original LOD members are
- compiling logs from a number of the premier "hacker underground BBSes"
- of the 1980s. We have obtained excerpts from the project, and we are
- impressed with the professionalism and comprehensiveness of the material.
-
- Working collectively under the name "LOD Communications," former members have
- scoured their archive for BBS logs from the mid-to-late 1980s. The logs
- include BBSes such as OSUNY, Twilight Zone, Forgotten Realm, Black Ice
- Private, Phoenix Project, Face to Face, Alliance, and Plover-NET, among
- others. Many were the primary boards of the era, and others typify secondary
- levels of the culture. Both singly and in the aggregate, the collection
- provides an unprecedented view into a culture that most of us only read about
- in "Cyberpunk" or "The Hacker Crackdown."
-
- We like the material for several reasons. First, as researchers, we find even
- the limited material we have seen to date as a rich source of data for anybody
- who wants to understand the culture of time. It is as if somebody had walked
- though San Francisco's Haight-Ashbury district with a video-cam during the
- "Summer of Love" and then released the tapes years later. It's an
- anthropologists dream, a sociologists data trove, and a historian's archival
- orgasm. Even law enforcement and security personnel would find it helpful for
- demystifying many of the misconceptions of "hackers." For others, it's
- simply fun reading.
-
- The logs are sufficiently entertaining and useful when each board is
- read individually. However, the power of the collection comes in
- reading them as chapters in a novel, as segments at different points
- in time that combine to give the individual posters and the boards a
- personality. We find ourselves wanting to know more about some of
- these people: How did they resolve their problems? Who was the alleged
- informant on a given board? Can we spot them from the posts? How did
- that poster resolve his problems? What happened to these people later?
-
- Many of the logs' posts are flattering, others are less so. To their credit,
- the lodcom editors have left it all intact to let the readers see and judge
- for themselves what occurred on the underground boards. The LOD collection
- provides an authentic look into what went on, and reading them gave us a
- feeling of deja vous all over again."
-
- *** {End CuD #5.39 Excerpts} ***
-
-
- VOLUME #1 CONTENTS:
- -------------------
-
- LOD Communications (c) 1993: VOLUME #1 List of Hack/Phreak BBS Message Bases
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- BBS NAME A/C SYSOP(S) # MSGS DATES KBYTES PROPHILE
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Alliance BBS 618 Phantom Phreaker 113 2/09/86 - 215 YES
- Doom Prophet G,P 6/30/86
-
- Black Ice Private 703 The Highwayman 880 12/1/88 - 560 YES
- P,U 5/13/89
-
- Broadway Show/ 718 Broadway Hacker 180 9/29/85 - 99 YES
- Radio Station BBS 12/27/85
-
- CIA BBS 201 CIA Director 30 5/02/84 - 30 NO
- 6/08/84
-
- C.O.P.S. 305 Mr. Byte-Zap 227 11/5/83 - 196 YES
- The Mechanic G,R,U 7/16/84
-
- Face To Face 713 Montressor 572 11/26/90 - 400 YES
- Doc Holiday 12/26/90
-
- Farmers Of Doom 303 Mark Tabas 41 2/20/85 - 124 YES
- G 3/01/85
-
- Forgotten Realm 618 Crimson Death 166 3/08/88 - 163 NO
- 4/24/88
-
- Legion Of Doom! 305 Lex Luthor 194 3/19/84 - 283 YES
- Paul Muad'Dib * G,P,U 11/24/84
-
- Metal Shop Private 314 Taran King 520 4/03/86 - 380 YES
- Knight Lightning P,R,U 5/06/87
-
- OSUNY 914 Tom Tone 375 7/9/82 - 368 YES
- Milo Phonbil * G,U 4/9/83
-
- Phoenix Project 512 The Mentor 1118 7/13/88 - 590 YES
- Erik Bloodaxe * G,R 2/07/90
-
- Plover-NET 516 Quasi Moto 346 1/14/84 - 311 YES
- Lex Luthor * G 5/04/84
-
- Safehouse 612 Apple Bandit 269 9/15/83 - 251 YES
- G,U 5/17/84
-
- Sherwood Forest I 212 Magnetic Surfer 92 5/01/84 - 85 YES
- P,U 5/30/84
-
- Sherwood Forest ][ 914 Creative Cracker 100 4/06/84 - 200 YES
- Bioc Agent 003 * G 7/02/84
-
- Split Infinity 408 Blue Adept 52 12/21/83 - 36 YES
- 1/21/84
-
- Twilight Phone ??? System Lord 17 9/21/82 - 24 NO
- 1/09/83
-
- Twilight Zone/ 203 The Marauder 108 2/06/85 - 186 YES
- Septic Tank Safe Cracker * G,U 7/24/86
-
- WOPR 617 Terminal Man 307 5/15/84 - 266 YES
- The Minute Man * G,U 1/12/85
- _____________________________________________________________________________
-
- NOTES: In SYSOP(S) column, * indicates remote sysop.
-
- In #msgs column, P indicates that the BBS was Private, R indicates BBS
- was public but restricted access sub-board(s) are included, G indicates
- that SOME (or maybe all) of the G-files written by the sysop and/or
- files that were available on the BBS are included, U indicates that a
- BBS Userlist (typically undated) is included.
-
- DATES column shows the starting and ending dates for which messages
- were buffered (and therefore available) although there may be some
- gaps in the chronological order.
-
- KBYTES column shows size of complete file containing messages, g-files,
- userlist, etc. PROPHILE column indicates if a "BBS Pro-Phile" was
- written and is included.
-
- LODCOM is currently organizing and splicing messages from over 30 more H/P
- BBSes [shown below] and, as the files are completed and/or as additional
- messages are procured for the above systems, updates of this listing will be
- released. Modem Over Manhattan (MOM), 8BBS (213), Mines of Moria (713),
- Pirates Cove (516) sysop: BlackBeard, Catch-22 (617) sysop: Silver Spy, Phreak
- Klass 2600 (806) sysop: The Egyptian Lover, Blottoland (216) sysop:King Blotto,
- Osuny 2 (a.k.a. The Crystal Palace) (914), Split Infinity (408), The Hearing
- Aid, Shadowland (303) sysop: The ShadowMaster, ShadowSpawn (219) sysop: Psychic
- Warlord, IROC (817) sysop: The Silver Sabre, FreeWorld II (301) sysop: Major
- Havoc, Planet Earth (714), Ripco (312) sysop: Dr. Ripco, Hackers Heaven (217)
- sysop: Jedi Warrior, Demon Roach Underground (806) sysop: Swamp Ratte,
- Stronghold East Elite (516) sysop: Slave Driver, Pure Nihilism, 5th Amendment
- (713) sysop: Micron, Newsweek Elite (617) sysop: Micro Man, Lunatic Labs (415)
- sysop: The Mad Alchemist, Laser Beam (314), Hackers Den (718) sysop: Red
- Knight, The Freezer (305) sysop: Mr. Cool, The Boca Harbour (305) sysop: Boca
- Bandit, The Armoury (201) sysop: The Mace, Digital Logic's Data Center (305)
- sysop: Digital Logic, Asgard (201), The KGB, PBS (702), Lost City of Atlantis
- sysop: The Lineman, and more.
-
-
- *** Hacking/Phreaking Tutorials a.k.a. "G-Philes": ***
- ------------------------------------------------------
-
- Along with the above H/P BBS Message Bases, LODCOM has collected many of the
- old "philes" that were written and disseminated over the years. A list of all
- of them would take up too much space here, however, we can tell you that the
- majority are NOT files that were originally written for electronic newsletters
- such as Phrack, PHUN, ATI, etc. (with the perhaps obvious exception of the
- LOD/H Technical Journal). Those files/newsletters are readily available from
- other sources. This hodgepodge includes files that somehow fell out of
- widespread circulation. A Table of Contents of the collection is included but
- the tutorials are all grouped together in four large files of approximately
- 250K each.
-
- UPDATE/ADDITION: A collection of material is being compiled from the H/P
- BBS Message Bases and Files along with other sources that is an organized
- conglomeration of all the writings of all the ex-members of the Legion of
- Doom/Hackers group. It also includes private LOD/H Group sub-board message
- bases that resided on the LOD BBS (1984), Catch-22 (1985), Phoenix Project
- (1988), and Black Ice Private (1988) that were NOT included in those BBSes'
- Message Bases. BBS Messages from before and after each member entered the
- group along with any files they wrote will be organized, by member name,
- into individual files. This is being done more for ourselves than anything
- else as we are curious how much material was created over the years. Note
- that this special collection of files will be sent to you around the same
- time that Volume III is sent out and is free for ordering BOTH, the G-Phile
- Collection mentioned above, and the Message Base Files.
-
-
- *** The Order Form: ***
- -----------------------
-
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - C U T - H E R E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-
- LOD Communications H/P BBS Message Base ORDER FORM
- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-
- PERSONAL RATE: Volumes 1, 2, 3, and possibly a fourth if created: $39.00
- This price is total & includes any updates to individual BBS Message Bases.
-
- COMMERCIAL RATE: Corporations, Universities, Libraries, and Government
- Agencies: $99.00 As above, price is total and includes updates.
-
- H/P BBS Message Bases (All Volumes): $________
-
- "G-Phile" Collection (Optional): $____________ ($10.00 Personal)
- ($25.00 Commercial)
-
- Disk Format/Type of Computer: _____________________________________
- (Please be sure to specify diskette size [5.25" or 3.5"] and high/low density)
-
- File Archive Method (.ZIP [preferred], .ARJ, .LHZ, .Z, .TAR) ____________
- (ASCII [Non-Compressed] add $5.00 to order)
-
- Texas Residents add 8% Sales Tax.
- If outside North America please add $6.00 for Shipping & Handling.
-
- Total Amount (In U.S. Dollars): $ ___________
-
- Payment Method: Check or Money Order please.
- Absolutely NO Credit Cards, even if it's yours :-)
-
- By purchasing these works, the Purchaser agrees to abide by all applicable U.S.
- Copyright Laws to not distribute or reproduce, electronically or otherwise, in
- part or in whole, any part of the Work(s) without express written permission
- from LOD Communications.
-
- Send To:
- Name: _____________________________________
-
- Organization: _____________________________________ (If applicable)
-
- Street: _____________________________________
-
- City/State/Zip: _____________________________________
-
- Country: _____________________________________
-
- E-mail address: _____________________________________ (If applicable)
-
-
- PRIVACY NOTICE: The information provided to LOD Communications is used for
- sending orders and periodic updates to the H/P BBS Message Base Price List.
- It will NOT be given or sold to any other party. Period.
-
-
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - C U T - H E R E - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
-
- Remit To: LOD Communications
- 603 W. 13th
- Suite 1A-278
- Austin, Texas USA 78701
-
- Lodcom can also be contacted via E-mail: lodcom@mindvox.phantom.com
- Voice Mail: 512-448-5098
- _____________________________________________________________________________
- End Order File V.2
-
- LOD Communications: Leaders in Engineering, Social and Otherwise ;)
-
- Email: lodcom@mindvox.phantom.com
- Voice Mail: 512-448-5098
- Snail Mail: LOD Communications
- 603 W. 13th
- Suite 1A-278
- Austin, Texas USA 78701
-
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