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- Issue Number: 17
- Release Date: December 24, 1987
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- On certain bulletin boards there has been alot of discussion on the security
- measures at ITT. Here are just a few messages from certain boards.
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- Msg#:30056 *Chronicle Msgs*
- 12/04/87 10:38:39 (Read 21 Times)
- From: THE FALCON
- To: SINGLE SIDEBAND (Rcvd)
- Subj: ITT
- I have heard through a very respectable grapevine that ITT will be changing
- it's format to 13 digits. My guess would be NPA+PRE+SUF+ 3 digit PIN, however
- we will just have to wait and see. If my guess is correct its not that big of
- a deal to us, just a matter of scanning 7 digits instead of 6.
- The Falcon
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- Msg#:30060 *Chronicle Msgs*
- 12/04/87 22:08:22 (Read 20 Times)
- From: THE FALCON
- To: ALL
- Subj: ITT
- Everyone pay heed! It seems our trusty favorite, ITT is changing it's format
- as of the 13th or something. They will be going to 13 digits. Seems everyone
- is doing that these days. If they do as I expect they will, they will change
- to the standard NPA+PRE+SUF+3 digit PIN of the person who owns the code. I.E.
- Someone living in California (805) may have a code like: 8055265421234 where
- 8055265421 is the person's phone number and 234 is their PIN (Personal
- Identification Number). If they do this, all it will mean for us hackers of
- ITT is just change from hacking 6 digits to 7 digits. (We can template the NPA
- and the PREFIX and just hack the last 7 digits) Difficult, yes, but not
- impossible. What does everyone think is the safest company? Also, Scan Man,
- could you post the TMC locations that you think are the safest and whether you
- think TMC's 800 number is safe? Thanks for your time in reading this.
- The Falcon
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- Message #: 12 of 45.
- Title : ITT's
- From : Cbolt
- Date : TUE DEC 1 11:55:06 AM
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-
- I've heard from a few ppl who own legit itt numbers that the company is trying
- to change to a 9 or possibly even a 13 digit number. I don't know how true
- this is but those ppl I talked to have no reason to lie to me.
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- Message #: 13 of 45.
- Title : ITT 9d
- From : The Trader
- Date : TUE DEC 1 12:18:05 PM
-
- Well, they already have 9 digit codes, but I haven't heard anything yet
- about 13 digit ones. I think I'll check into that.
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- TRADER
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- Message #: 14 of 45.
- Title : itt 14digies?
- From : Codebreaker
- Date : TUE DEC 1 1:23:19 PM
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- If itt goes 14 digthen there is no
- reason for them not to have a phiber
- optic installation put in..So if they
- go 14 then it could make ITT much
- clearer and better results : 16 of 45.
- Title : ITT...
- From : High Tech Ii
- Date : TUE DEC 1 6:18:05 PM
-
- There is no doubt that they are changing code format... I already posted that
- (maybe it was on anothe sub... oh well, any way, officials say so, so I am
- pretty sure of it.)
-
- High Tech II
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- Message #: 18 of 45.
- Title : ITT*
- From : Master Cracker
- Date : TUE DEC 1 10:44:14 PM
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- IF ITT GOES 13 OR 14 DIGITS. ITS GOING
- TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO HACK ON
- ITT. BUT I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY HAVE
- 9 DIGIT CODES THAT ARE WORKING. A SMALL
- COMPANIE, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS
- AVAILABLE TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS
- MICROTEL. THEY 5 OR 6 DIGITS. AND WOULD
- BE FAIRLY EASY TO HACK.MOST OTHERS ARE
- PRETTY DANGEROUS.
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- MASTER CRACKER
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- Message #: 23 of 45.
- Title : itt. ..
- From : Wharf Ratt
- Date : WED DEC 2 9:33:29 PM
-
- I have heard from a source that they are going to go to 14 digits but they
- are arguing over how to convert the old members. Also the $$ to reprogram their
- system to accept that input. Will keep u posted...
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- Message #: 24 of 45.
- Title : Well...
- From : Apple Core
- Date : WED DEC 2 11:10:18 PM
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- They already accept some 9 digit codes (Executive's Accounts) but most of them
- are still 7 so you have something to use for the time being. Hmmm, a 14 digit
- code.... I think that WOULD be a little bit difficult to say the least. But it
- would cost money to convert the computer relays and all the customers who need
- to flip over to 14 digits. And ITT doesn't even have Fiber-optics yet! I have a
- feeling that they can't afford tracing, so they go to 14 digits to reduce the
- hackers with less money spent. Oh, well. Maybe this executive code won't go bad
- too soon....I hope.
- /
- )(
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- Message #: 32 of 45.
- Title : ITT-New Uprisals
- From : Al Capone
- Date : TUE DEC 8 3:51:31 PM
-
- While trying some things on ITT, I have found that when I get a code that is
- incorrect I will get a ringing, followed by a carrier and then the error
- message. They obviously notice that we are there.
-
- Al Capone
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- Message #: 33 of 45.
- Title : Metro-New Uprisals
- From : The Trader
- Date : TUE DEC 8 10:31:36 PM
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-
- Metrophone (MTR) has been doing the same thing for years - just hack for
- a non-carrier or busy if your modem can differentiate.
-
- TRADER
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- Message #: 34 of 45.
- Title : They Are Aware of Us
- From : The Traxster
- Date : WED DEC 9 9:55:51 AM
-
- Well guys beings they are putting false carriers in the error messages that
- must mean we have a new chalange. I mean they are oviously looking for
- hacker's modems to connect to that carrier. Though Why Metro Phone ever
- started doing it first I will never figur out. They must have the worsed
- connections of any long-distance service ever in business. That is if you are
- refering to Metro Phone not Metro Meedia.\
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- Message #: 35 of 45.
- Title : Ok...
- From : High Tech Ii
- Date : WED DEC 9 5:19:42 PM
-
- Someone said that the false carriers are a "new" challenge.... Well... in my
- area, they have been lurking fonow... and as for beating it...
- try this:
- 1) Not all carriers are created equal.... hack at 1200 and it is easier
- or
- 2) Try changing the set up on your modem so that it waits for a longer
- carrier... I doubt that it last for 5 min. [_or so...
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- High Tech II
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- Message #: 36 of 45.
- Title : No...do this...
- From : The Ronz
- Date : WED DEC 9 6:34:47 PM
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- Write your modem program so that it marks good codes that DON't HAVE A CARRIER.
- Be sure that the number you're dialing to doesn't give a carrier, like a
- time/weather info line, or shorten the amount of time your modem hangs on after
- it doesn't detect a carrier...no problem.
-
- Gee, thanks ITT for making it easier to hack you with an Apple-cat modem and
- some programming...
-
- Laterness...
- Ronz
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- Message #: 37 of 45.
- Title : yepp
- From : The Leftist
- Date : WED DEC 9 7:40:12 PM
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- hacking for no carrier is much faster anyway...
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- Message #: 40 of 45.
- Title : A Tiny Flaw in That
- From : Al Capone
- Date : THU DEC 10 6:47:22 PM
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- There is a tiny flaw in the method that Ronz tells of when applied to ITT.
- Correct me if I am wrong but as far as I know the carriers are in random. Why
- not program the modem to listen for line noise. Usually when a code is good it
- takes some time for the call to be completed, therefore if you programmed your
- modem to search for line noise regardless of what they put in your way you
- could weed out the good codes from the bad.
-
- Al Capone
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- Message #: 41 of 45.
- Title : You see....
- From : The Ronz
- Date : THU DEC 10 8:42:44 PM
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- With the apple-cat modem, you can program it to detect carrier noises, or voice
- range noises. In other words there is a byte you set to tell it the frequency
- range to "listen" for, and when it gets that, another location in the modem
- changes to indicate that that frequency is present on the line. When there is
- no noise, or a different freq than what you tell the modem to look for, the
- location gives another number, not the one you're looking for.
-
- ANYWAYYY....Is it true that the 800-ITT # does not ALWAYS give a carrier when
- you put in a bad code? It is my experience that it does. The local dialup to
- me does not give the carrier though, so the program would only work with the
- 800 dialup, and ONLY if it ALWAYS gives the carrier noise for bad codes.
-
- Writing code-hack programs is fun.....
-
- Laterness...
- Ronz
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- Message #: 42 of 45.
- Title : me and ITT
- From : Druidic Death
- Date : FRI DEC 11 6:36:05 AM
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- I have never been given a carrier with a bad code on ITT, I always get a
- message telling me that "service restrictions are in effect".
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- Dru'
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- Message #: 43 of 45.
- Title : try....
- From : The Ronz
- Date : FRI DEC 11 9:18:18 AM
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- Try -1800-327-9488 for ITT and see what happens when you put in a bad
- code...it should either ring and ring and ring and never answer or
- it will answer with its tone and you do your thing, then if the codes bad
- then it will beep with a carrier noise then a lady will come on sayinnd something about Atlanta....
-
- And then it might have a carrier noise again...
-
- -Ronz
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- Message #: 44 of 45.
- Title : ITT Software Changes
- From : The Traxster
- Date : FRI DEC 11 10:40:27 AM
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- I know ITT has changed their sofftware, but is the longer codes the only thing
- that is going to change or is there going to be some others? ITT hasn't done
- much in the way of security but it is going to be interesting to see hhow they
- plan to take any steps. As for the carrier I've only had it happen on one
- executive code.
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- Message #38 of 65
- Subject: ITT
- From : Sgt. Pepper [Level 50]
- To: ALL
- Time: 12/14/87 at 6:20 am
-
- I did not mean to imply that ITT
- going 13 digits is the end of the
- world... I am melancholy about it..
- It gets rid of the leeches, but
- I have to actually concentrate to
- phreak... Sorry if anyone thought
- I worshipped ITT or something, but
- I will admit that ITT is the primary
- service which I use, just out of
- laziness.....Sgt. Pepper..
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- Message #44 of 65
- Subject: ITT 9 digits
- From : The Ranger [Level 50]
- To: ALL
- Time: 12/15/87 at 2:56 pm
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- On the ITT 9 digits...
-
- Since ITT has switched to 13 digits what about the 'Executive Codes' that are 9
- digits? Does anybody know if they are going uto 13, or higher, or staying the
- same?
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- ' Ranger
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- Message #64 of 65
- Subject: R) Well
- From : Dr. Doomsday [Level 60]
- To: Argos
- Time: 12/21/87 at 8:49 am
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- Wait a MINUTE! Whats the HELL is going on?!?!?!??!
-
- Is ITT officialy 11 or 13 DIGITS? Cause for me ITT is GREAT....Perfect 9600
- Baud CONNECTIONS (with my HST), so I want to start hacking them babes again, (I
- have been using 9500963, XXXXXX).....So PLEASE either give me a VALID 11 or 13
- DIGIT code so I can startt from there.....
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- 13 or 14 digit codes will be nearly impossible to hack. It's just too
- difficult and would take too long. The change in the code format will make
- things so difficult that switching to another alternate carrier would make
- more sense.
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- On the subject of a fake carrier:
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- Metro has had a fake carrier on their ports (950-FGB ports) for some time. If
- people would like to hack around ITT's fake carrier, I will provide some info
- on the various ways to do it. Allnet recently also introduced a fake carrier
- and then took it off for a while. It is unknown whether or not Allnet's fake
- carrier is only being used in certain areas.
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- Hacking around a fake carrier:
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- With the increased interest in the fake carrier and getting around it, here are
- a few ways to hack around it. You should remember that some code-hacking
- programs have options for systems with fake carriers.
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- 1) Most good code-hacking programs have a way to stop hacking and continue with
- the next code attempt during hacking. This is usually just a button pressed
- when the code-hacker is listening on the phone. To get around the fake
- carrier, a hacker could just listen on the phone and when he hears the ringing
- (that will mean an error mesust continue on the next code.
- This requires that the code hacker be present when hacking (and listening on
- the phone).
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- 2) Another way to get around the fake carrier is to set your hacker to dial
- for a phone that will not produce a carrier (payphone, constant busy, or even
- your own phone). Set the hacker to record whenever no carrier is received.
- When you don't get a carrier, you'll know that you have a code.
-
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- 3) I suppose you could set up your hacker to hack sequentially and then go
- through the list of good codes. When you find a number missing, that's a
- good code. Providing you hack with a destination that gives no carrier.
-
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- 4) The fake carrier is usually 300 baud, set your program to get around the
- fake carrier by listening for only a 1200 baud carrier.
-
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- 5) Fake carriers on AC's (Alternate Carriers) only last for a few seconds
- because the error message has to be stated in the recording. Set the hacker
- to receive any carrier that lasts atleast 20 seconds.
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- 6) The fake carrier also come on quickly after you dial since it is the
- alternate carrier's recording. Set up a hacking program that will only record
- codes when the carrier is received after 15 seconds. Dial for a long distance
- Compuserve port (so that it takes a while to connect the call) and if the
- carrier comes on after 5 seconds, the program should reject the code.
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- 7) One other way to get around the fake carrier is to set up a simple delay in
- your program so that you wait 15 seconds before listening for a carrier. The
- fake carrier would be gone and the message would be speaking by the time that
- the program would start listening for a carrier. A real carrier would atleast
- last for 30 seconds.
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- I hope that these ways will be helpful to hackers in their attempts to put
- down the increasing security of long-distance services.
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- @ Capt. Zap's Defense @
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-
- The following are a series of messages and responses from Phreak Klass Room
- 2600. They involve Capt. Zap and his defense to an article written in the WSJ
- (Wall Street Journal). The information on Capt. Zap is in TNS Issue #13.
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- Numb: 2
- Subj: Wall Street Journal
- From: CAPT ZAP
- Date: THU NOV 5 11:30:11 AM
-
- Well as one of the older members of this board and hobby, I have taken my
- so-called talents and now put them to work. The job, Hacking systems for people
- and testing the security of the machines. Now there is a lot of money out there
- and the systems owners are paranoid from the insiders than from the outsiders!
- Now there is a good possibility of taking all the combined talents of us and
- marketing them to the different owners and make some good money doing what we
- all love to do in the first place!
-
- \/ Capt. Zap \/
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- Numb: 5
- Subj: Whats up?
- From: CAPT ZAP
- Date: FRI NOV 6 11:19:51 PM
-
- Well it seems to very quiet these days with all the hoopl
- article written about me in the Wall Street Journal. Does anyone read out
- there?
- CZ
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- Numb: 6
- Subj: WSJ
- From: THE STRYPER
- Date: SAT NOV 7 7:37:06 PM
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- Must be quite an honor (a dubious one, perhaps?) to be in the Wall St.
- Journal. What's the date on the article, I'd like to read it....
-
- -+The Stryper+-
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- Numb: 7
- Subj: The Date!
- From: CAPT ZAP
- Date: SUN NOV 8 5:06:18 PM
-
- For all of those interested in the article and the date, it is tuesday Nov 3.
- All in all it was a good article with the exception of pointing out that I
- am not the best housekeeper in town and the wife and I fight all the time. But
- a least it states that I am not a fed or turn anyone in for anything!
- After all, we are all entitled to read what we want and pocess information that
- some would consider to be of a dangerous subject. But what is education for?
-
- \/ Capt. Zap \/
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- Numb: 9
- Subj: Zap
- From: THE CHAMELION
- Date: SUN NOV 8 8:38:14 PM
-
- Zap:
- Regardless of what the Journal says (yes, I read it, and do almost every
- day), most people are calling you a nark, a fed, and ssomething I can't quite
- remember, but it did contain the word "shit". There seems to be a general
- consordium against you and your presence, but I'm not passing judgements on
- anyone.
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- Numb: 12
- Subj: My response to it all!
- From: CAPT ZAP
- Date: TUE NOV 10 1:46:47 AM
-
- Well as far as I am concerned, the article was good and bad! The one major
- point that was made clear at all times is that I am not a fed or whatever. Yes
- there have been a number of different responses from the community and it has
- be going 60/40 in favor of the story. The people who know me around the country
- and have called and said their piece about the whole thing! If any are in other
- places I inhabit, you will see what I mean. There have been threats and
- counter-threats since it came out and others with reps that are considered to
- be realiable in the community have stood with me on my credentials! Since I
- have Class 3 Felony already against me and it keeps me from doing alot of
- things it also keeps me from working with law enforcement due to my crimminal
- stature and conviction! AS far as I am concerned, I feel that I have nothing to
- dto the facts presented in black and white. I also do not have the ability to
- perform such services as Mr. Maxfield does. I perform security evaluations and
- rviews! That entails the testing of a areas of security protective bubbles.
- It is a good job when you work, and thats not much! But all in all, I am happy
- whit the article and the response. To those who do not know me, you can kiss my
- s! To those who do and see the idea behind the firm, Thank you for your
- support!
-
- \/ Capt. Zap \/
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- Numb: 13
- Subj: Zap
- From: THE CHAMELION
- Date: WED NOV 11 1:24:10 PM
-
- Althought you are not an immediate threat to hackers, and you, as the article
- explains, will not help catch others; there is one problem. If you keep
- plugging holoing to be able to get a drink. Understand what
- I'm saying, dutch boy?
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- Numb: 16
- Subj: Zap
- From: THE STRYPER
- Date: SAT NOV 14 1:38:38 AM
-
- Zap, I believe, does security consulting for individual companies, so the holes
- are just gone on those companies. Zap: Are most of the holes you plug to
- prevent outside (us) hacking, or inside jobs?
-
- -+The Stryper+-
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- Numb: 18
- Subj: Systems Protection!
- From: CAPT ZAP
- Date: SUN NOV 22 11:18:53 PM
-
- The holes as you put them are for the internal stuff. Most of the internal
- stuff by reason of wwhole design protects the outside more and does the inside
- by reason of default. If you have any questions, you coulld call me at
- 215-634-5749. That is all!
-
- \/ Capt. Zap \/
- ** --------- **
-
- Damm, for no messages, it was very busy for hours at times. Is there something
- wrong with the BBS or is it the phone company?
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- Numb: 20
- Subj: Wow, Zap...you man.
- From: FRANKEN GIBE
- Date: THU NOV 26 6:03:57 PM
-
- I was still away at school when a friend phoned and mentioned that Zap had made
- the journal...so I scurried down to the library, and there he was. Black and
- white.
-
- Zap a nark? I don't think so...I hope not. From my conversations with him.,
- I think the government would be in far more jeopardy with him working WITH
- them. Alack. Too much suspicion. Sigh.
-
- What's the story behind PK's resident fed? More rumor, or is there something to
- this one? I'm kinda behind on things...
-
- I have to admit, PWN 14 confused me. Were you guys aware that Dan was recording
- and stuff b'fore the damn con? I mean, did you have some suspicion? And why
- didn't you ever just confront him? Or did you?
-
- But, Zap, congratulations. I'm impressed, I gotta admit. Phone sometime.
-
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- Numb: 21
- Subj: Wow...
- From: THE ALCHEMIST
- Date: FRI NOV 27 12:18:27 PM
-
- A lot has happened since I was away. I'm going to have to pick up a copy of
- the Journal to find out what all this is about.
-
- Yeah, it does look like the board is dying. Only 35 messages in almost a
- month. Oh well, that's life I guess...
-
- The Alchemist
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- I thought his defense should be printed. As stated in Issue #13, Capt. Zap
- is NOT a fed/nark/informant/whatever. Atleast that is the common consensus. I
- highly doubt that he is and no action should be taken against him. All the
- details on the events surrounding the WSJ article are in TNS Issue #13.
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