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- TELECOM DIGEST 890419
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-
-
- Date: Mon, 27 Mar 89 22:01:25 EST
- From: Mark Robert Smith <msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu>
- Subject: Caller*ID(tm) and Repeat*Call(tm) in New Jersey
-
- I've just returned from Spring Break, and my dorm number has finally had
- Caller*ID and Repeat*Call turned on. I picked up the Caller ID box from my
- PO Box here, and here are a few first impressions:
-
- Repeat*Call works well. I have used it both for local calls and intra-LATA
- long distance calls. One feature that is not documented is that when you
- get the Repeat Call signal that the line is free (two short, one long), the
- Caller ID box displays the number that you are attempting to call. This is
- useful because you can have several Repeat Calls running at the same time. My
- only complaint (other than the large one below) is that the confirmation tape
- you hear upon activating Repeat Call is very worn and of poor quality. Repeat
- Call is activated by dialing *66 after the busy signal. All current Repeat
- Calls will be disabled by dialing *86 (you can't disable one, you have to
- disable all).
-
- Caller ID works well also. After purchasing the 9-volt battery the box
- requires (that was never mentioned before...), I hooked it up. After the
- wrangling with NJ Bell (see below), it finally worked. The number appears
- quite quickly, almost immediately after the first ring ends. It only
- displays the last seven digits, but then I haven't gotten a call from out of
- state yet. I haven't seen it yet, but according to the documentation, it
- displays three question marks:
- _ _ _
- _| _| _|
- | | |
-
- when the number does not support Caller ID. When a call comes in, the unit
- displays a NEW in the top right corner, and the number, preceded by an L
- (it looks like it was supposed to show L for long distance, and nothing for
- local, but that info was replaced by a page-size sticker in the docs). After
- 30 seconds, whether the phone was answered or not, the number disappears and
- is replaced by the word CALL. The box has three buttons, Remove, Time of Call,
- and Review. To review the calls (it stores up to 20, and then bounces the
- least recent), you hit the review button, and the most recent call will be
- displayed, then the next most recent... When you hit Time of Day, you see
- DATE in the mid-upper left, the 2 digit day on the left, the 2 digit hour
- (1-12) on the right, and AM or PM to the right of the hour. This time/date
- comes over the line with the number, not from the box. If the same number
- calls back, the upper right will show REPEATED CALL for that number,
- and the Time/Date will be for the most recent call from that number.
-
- To delete a number, you hit the Remove button twice, and the digits of
- the number disappear one at a time from the right to left (a "dissolve").
- There is also a low battery indicator BATT on the far left. Under the gray
- square surrounding the LCD screen, there are two buttons in the bottom right
- and left corners that are not marked, which when pressed simultaneously will
- reset the unit and clear the numbers.
-
- If there are no calls in memory when Review is pressed, nine's are shown. The
- unit is 6" long, 4 3/4" wide, and slopes from 2.5" tall in the back to 2" tall
- in the front. The phone cord plugs in the back, and there is a barrel socket
- (like those used for DC adaptors) that is marked unused in the manual, and
- unmarked on the unit.
-
-
- I had to call NJ Bell repair today to get the service turned on (3/27). The
- person who I called to establish the service said that the service would be
- turned on on 3/20. I was locked out of the dorm for Break last week, so I
- was not around on 3/20. I called the Business Office to see if the service was
- actually on, as reccommended in the Caller ID box manual, and the person said
- that it showed completed on 3/20. I then called the Manufacturer of the box,
- and they said that they had been having trouble with NJ Bell saying that the
- service was on when it wasn't. The service call was placed around noon, and
- the service was on when I returned at 8pm tonight. When I called the Business
- Office, I asked for a credit for the time that the service was not really on,
- and the rep told me that I asked to have the service turned on on 3/20, and
- that I should have checked then to see if it worked. I said that I was TOLD
- when the service would start, with no choice in the matter, and that I was
- locked out of my dorm last week and couldn't check on 3/20. She said that she
- didn't want to argue and credited me for the week that the service was
- supposedly on but really wasn't. Is this some kind of extra money-making plot,
- or just ineptitude on the part of NJ Bell?
-
- This is my first report. If anything exciting develops, I'll let you know.
- Please feel free to direct questions about the rudiments of the service to me,
- at an address shown below:
-
- Mark
- ----
- Mark Smith (alias Smitty) "Be careful when looking into the distance,
- RPO 1604; P.O. Box 5063 that you do not miss what is right under your nose."
- New Brunswick, NJ 08903-5063 rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!msmith (OK, Bob?)
- msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu Copyright 1989, Mark Smith. All Rights Reserved.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: John Higdon <decvax!decwrl!apple!zygot!john@ucbvax.berkeley.edu>
- Subject: Shady operations
- Date: 27 Mar 89 06:19:50 GMT
- Organization: ATI Wares Team
-
-
-
- A few weeks ago I brought up some of the slimy practices of PacTel
- Cellular in Los Angeles. Here is what has got to be the flip side of
- those practices.
-
- Here in the Bay Area we have to cellular providers: GTE Mobilnet
- (wireline) and Cellular One (non-wireline), which is owned in part by
- Pacific Telesis, the holding company for PacTel and Pacific Bell. GTE
- Mobilnet is the larger of the two systems with over 90 cell sites
- compared to Cellular One with only 60.
-
- Cellular One has a great arrangement with Pacific Bell. No matter where
- you are in the Bay Area, if you call any Cellular One mobile prefix you
- are charged only as a local call. This even works from utility-provided
- pay phones: any call to a Cellular One mobile phone is twenty cents.
-
- On the other hand, if you try to call a GTE mobile prefix you get a
- recording that says, "There are long distance charges associated with
- this call. Please redial your call, preceded by the digit '1'." You get
- this recording even if you are calling a GTE mobile prefix that shows
- in the directory as being local to the telephone you are using. I have
- yet to find a Pacific Bell pay phone anywhere in the Bay Area that does
- not do this.
-
- When you follow instructions and dial the '1', you get a reorder. This
- is to be expected in 408 since a '1' is not used for long distance. If
- you precede the number with '0', you get the Pacific Bell ka-bong where
- you can enter your calling card (and be charged ????). If you call the
- Pacific Bell operator, your call will be placed and twenty cents will
- be collected.
-
- I used to think this was an honest programming error in a particular
- central office until 1) I reported it four times and nothing was done,
- and 2) I found out that it is widespread. Another thing is that this
- recording that you hear is heard under no other circumstances. If you
- actually dial a long distance call you get asked for money. If you are
- in 415 and forget to dial a '1', you are simply told that you must dial
- a '1' and there is no mention of "long distance *charges*".
-
- Do you suppose little things like this might nudge potential cellular
- customers over to Cellular One? From non-coin phones, things seem to
- work properly. I'm not quite sure where to start my campaign, but it
- seems that a call to GTE Mobilnet might be in order. I'm sure they will
- be interested to know how the operating company is thwarting their
- business. The next call will be to the Pacific Bell pay phone division,
- and that will be followed by a strong letter to the CPUC.
-
- Any other suggestions?
- --
- John Higdon
- john@zygot ..sun!{apple|cohesive|pacbell}!zygot!john
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Bruce Nelson <nelson@kodak.com>
- Subject: CompuServe adds monthly user fee
- Date: 27 Mar 89 20:14:50 GMT
- Reply-To: Bruce Nelson <nelson@kodak.com>
- Organization: Eastman Kodak Co, Rochester, NY
-
-
- CompuServe just announced that they will begin charging a $1.50 per month
- user fee over and above whatever usage is charged. The fee will be waived
- during the first three months of a new account.
-
- They will, however, make some services free - like looking up your charges,
- looking up access numbers, etc.
-
- I thought you all would like to know.
-
- Bruce D. Nelson | UUCP: ...!rutgers!rochester!kodak!hawkeye!nelson
- Eastman Kodak Company | Voice: 716-726-7890
- 901 Elmgrove Road | Company Mail: Dept 5177 Distributed Systems Service
- Rochester, NY 14653-5219 | Standard disclaimers apply
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 28 Mar 89 00:12:16 EST
- From: statton@bu-cs.bu.edu
- Subject: How Much Is A Phone Number Worth?
-
- In a TELECOM Digets #110, Anthony Siegman
- (siegman@sierra.stanford.edu), asks the value of his residential phone
- number. My employer recently bought NXX-1000 for $1,500. This is
- being used as the FG-A number for a long-distance reseller, where
- easily memorized numbers are important to have. (We're also getting
- NXX-9595 wherever possible throughout the rest of the state, to make
- memorizing the numbers easier.)
-
- Scott Statton -- N1GAK ... aka scott@eddie.mit.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Rahul Dhesi <dhesi@bsu-cs.uucp>
- Subject: Perfect solution to caller privacy
- Date: 24 Mar 89 20:24:52 GMT
- Reply-To: dhesi@bsu-cs.uucp
- Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana
-
-
- I just discovered the perfect solution to the caller privacy issue.
-
- Suppose you make a telephone call and the callee is automatically
- refusing calls unless the caller is willing to identify himself.
-
- You hear a tone and a voice that says:
-
- "*Blip* *Bleep* *Blurp* This call cannot be completed as dialed
- unless you enable caller identification. You can do this by flashing
- the switchook once, or by dialing *7 on your touch tone telephone,
- *NOW*."
-
- There is now a five-second wait. If you enable caller id as
- instructed, your call goes through immediately and you don't even have
- to redial.
- --
- Rahul Dhesi UUCP: <backbones>!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!dhesi
- ARPA: dhesi@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- Date: Sat, 1 Apr 89 23:46:00 PST
- From: Robert Horvitz <rh@well.uucp>
- Subject: FBI/Bell Wiretapping Network?
-
-
- rh: The following article (slightly abridged) appears in the
- April 1st edition of the "W5YI Report," a radio-electronics
- newsletter for ham radio operators ($23/year for 24 issues to US
- addresses from: The W5YI Report, P.O. Box 565101, Dallas, Texas
- 75356-5101). This was NOT an April Fool's issue:
- =========================
- Bob Draise/WB8QCF was an employee of Cincinnati Bell Telephone
- between 1966 and 1979. He, and others, are involved in a
- wiretapping scandal of monumental proportions. They say they
- have installed more than 1,000 wiretaps on the phones of judges,
- law enforcement officers, lawyers, television personalities,
- newspaper columnists, labor unions, defense contractors, major
- corporations (such as Proctor & Gamble and General Electric),
- politicians (even ex-President Gerald Ford) at the request of
- Cincinnati police and Cincinnati Bell security supervisors who
- said the taps were for the police. They were told that many of
- the taps were for the FBI.
-
- Another [radio] amateur, Vincent Clark/KB4MIT, a technician for
- South-Central Bell from 1972 to 1981, said he placed illegal
- wiretaps similar to those done by Bob Draise on orders from his
- supervisors - and on request from local policemen in Louisville,
- Kentucky...
-
- I asked Bob how he got started in the illegal wiretap business.
- He said a friend called and asked him to come down to meet with
- the Cincinnati police. An intelligence sergeant asked Bob about
- wiretapping some Black Muslims. He also told Bob that Cincinnati
- Bell security had approved the wiretap - and that it was for the
- FBI. The sergeant pointed to his Masonic ring which Bob also
- wore - in other words, he was telling the truth under the Masonic
- oath - something that Bob put a lot of stock in.
-
- Most of the people first wiretapped were drug or criminal
- related. Later on, however, it go out of hand - and the FBI
- wanted taps on prominent citizens. "We started doing people who
- had money. How this information was used, I couldn't tell you."
-
- The January 29th "Newsday" said Draise had told investigators
- that among the taps he rigged from 1972 to 1979 were several on
- lines used by Wren Business Communications, a Bell competitor.
- It seems that when Wren had arranged an appointment with a
- potential customer, they found that Bell had just been there
- without being called. Wren's president is a ham [radio
- operator], David Stoner/K8LMB. I telephoned Dave...
-
- "As far as I am concerned, the initial focus for all of this
- began with the FBI. The FBI apparently set up a structure
- throughout the United States using apparently the security chiefs
- of the different Bell companies... They say that there have been
- other cases in the United States like ours in Cincinnati but they
- have been localized without the realization of an overall pattern
- being implicated."
-
- "The things that ties this all together is if you go way back in
- history to the Hoover period at the FBI, he apparently got
- together with the AT&T security people. There is an organization
- that I guess exists to this day with regular meetings of the
- security people of the different Bell companies. This meant that
- the FBI would be able to target a group of 20 or 30 people that
- represented the security points for all of the Bell and AT&T
- connections in the United States. I believe the key to all of
- this goes back to Hoover. The FBI worked through that group who
- then created the activity at the local level as a result of
- central planning."
-
- "I believe that in spite of the fact that many people have
- indicated that this is an early 70's problem - that there is no
- disruption to that work to this day. I am pretty much convinced
- that it is continuing... It looks like a large surveillance
- effort that Cincinnati was just a part of."
-
- "The federal prosecutor Kathleen Brinkman is in a no-win
- situation... If she successfully prosecutes this case she is
- going to bring trouble down upon her own Justice Department. She
- can't successfully prosecute the case."
-
- About $200 million in lawsuits have already been filed against
- Cincinnati Bell and the Police Department. Several members of
- the police department have taken the Fifth Amendment before the
- grand jury rather than answer questions about their roles in the
- wiretapping scheme.
-
- Bob Draise/WB8QCF has filed a suit against Cincinnati Bell for
- $78 for malicious prosecution and slander in response to a suit
- filed by Cincinnati Bell against Bob for defamation... Right
- after they filed the suit, several policemen came forward and
- admitted to doing illegal wireptaps with them. The Cincinnati
- police said they stopped this is 1974 - although another
- policeman reportedly said they actually stopped the wiretapping
- in 1986.
-
- Now the CBS-TV program "60 Minutes" is interested in the
- Cincinnati goings-on and has sent in a team of investigative
- reporters. Ed Bradley from "60 Minutes" has already interviewed
- Bob Draise/WB8QCF and it is expected that sometime during April,
- you will see a "60 Minutes" report on spying by the FBI. We also
- understand that CNN, Ted Turner's Cable News Network, is also
- working up a "Bugging of America" expose.
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- From: Ed Wells <edw@wells.uucp>
- Subject: Caller ID
- Date: 7 Apr 89 08:34:57 GMT
- Organization: Wells Computer Systems Corp., Levittown, Pa. 19058
-
-
- How does the caller ID work (technically)? Is it a DTMF code before
- the phone rings? Some other kind of digital code? What ESS switch
- does this feature start on?
- --
- =========================================================================
- Edward E. Wells Jr., President Voice: (215)-943-6061
- Wells Computer Systems Corp., Box 343, Levittown, Pa. 19058
- {dsinc,francis,hotps,lgnp1,mdi386,pebco}!wells!edw
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: David Tamkin <dattier@jolnet.orpk.il.us>
- Subject: Correction to submission on area code 708
- Date: Thu, 6 Apr 89 0:36:23 CDT
-
- In the letter from me that the moderator included in Digest volume 9, #112,
- I typoed on the list of prefixes I expected to remain unused in both area
- codes 312 and 708. The list should have read, "219, 312, 414, 708, and 815
- because part or all of the area codes bearing those same digits are in the
- LATA thar@oill include 312 and 708; and 217, 309, and 618 because there are
- area codes in Illinois named by those same numerals."
-
- Because that started out as a letter to someone who lives in the same region
- and knows much of what was in it, some things in it were phrased less than
- fully; plus I typoed "805" for "815" (805 is an area code in California and
- a prefix already in use in 312) and put it in the wrong part of the list
- (after the semicolon, with 217, 309, and 618). Anyone who wants further
- explanation of some of the geographical references in it is welcome to write
- to me.
-
- David W. Tamkin Post Office Box 567542 Norridge, Illinois 60656-7542
- dattier@jolnet.orpk.il.us Jolnet Public Access Unix GEnie: D.W.TAMKIN
- ...!killer!jolnet!dattier Orland Park, Illinois CIS: 73720,1570
-
- PS: This would have been submitted a lot sooner if the first mailing hadn't
- taken four days to bounce.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 7 Apr 89 13:02:07 CST
- From: Will Martin -- AMXAL-RI <wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil>
- Subject: A note on MCI
-
- An item from the Federal Bytes column on page 38 of Federal Computer Week,
- March 20, 1989:
-
- NO SHOES
-
- "The cobbler's children are alive and apparently well at MCI Communications
- Corp. A call to its 19th St. headquarters in Washington, DC last week
- produced one of these messages: "All operators are busy, but if you'll
- stay on the line..."
-
- The message was followed by a long silence. A live operator finally
- appeared, rang the public relations department as requested, and another
- recorded message and long delay ensued. Well, it is the long-distance
- company, after all, and we were calling locally."
- ***End of item***
-
- Speaks for itself, I guess... :-)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Patt Haring <ccnysci!patth@phri.uucp>
- Subject: Re: Make/break ratios
- Date: 8 Apr 89 13:57:08 GMT
- Reply-To: Patt Haring <ccnysci!patth@phri.uucp>
- Organization: City College Of New York
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0122m04@vector.UUCP> e118-ak@euler.berkeley.edu (e118
- student) writes:
- >X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 122, message 4 of 7
- >The make/break ratios in the US and UK are different, but the ratio
- >isn't terribly critical (at least in US). I discovered some years ago
- >that I can dial by clicking the switchhook rapidly. One time I even
- >dialed 9-1-214-233-2768 successfully by this method. Obviously my
-
- My parents put a lock on our telephone (old-fashioned
- dial; not touch-tone) to keep ** ME ** from using
- the phone after school when my father nearly
- had a coronary after opening the monthly phone
- bill.
-
- Well, that didn't stop me - I just used the switch hook
- same technique as described above!
-
- Poor dad, still couldn't figure out why the phone bill
- was so high ;-)
-
- P.S. Office maintenance personnel use locked telephones in
- exactly the same way; if your office phone is busy
- at 11 PM when you're trying to dial in then you can
- count on one of the cleaning people using your phone
- to call Santo Domingo, Honduras or Mexico :-)
-
- I had to pick up some documents in my office late
- one night before proceeding to the printer to read
- galleys and when I opened my boss' locked office
- door -- there she was -- with one of his tub chairs
- rolled over to the telephone table by the sofa :
- her feet were up on the table while she smoked her
- cigarette and talked long distance on ** HIS ** phone
- to her relatives in Santo Domingo.
-
- We had been having some trouble figuring out who
- was calling Santo Domingo at that late hour (the phone
- had a lock on it) since we had no clients in that
- country B-)
-
- --
- Patt Haring
- rutgers!cmcl2!ccnysci!patth
- patth@ccnysci.BITNET
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- From: Kenneth_R_Jongsma@cup.portal.com
- Subject: Re: 976-WAKE
- Date: Fri, 7-Apr-89 09:37:02 PDT
-
- Regarding the 976-WAKE service in California... I just returned from a
- trip to Melbourne, Austrailia. While perusing the local phone book, among
- other items, I noticed that TelCom Australia has been offering this
- service for about 85 cents a call. Calls can be one time only or on a
- standing order basis...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Repent! Godot is coming soon! Repent! <minow%thundr.DEC@decwrl.dec.com>
- Date: 7 Apr 89 09:12
- Subject: re: 976-WAKE
-
- It's nice that Americans (or is that Californians) now have access to
- such advanced telephone services as an automatic alarm clock, even if
- the $2 charge is a bit steep.
-
- I had exactly that service in Sweden twenty years ago for about $0.15
- per call. Of course, my total phone bill was about $2.00 per month,
- including unlimited local service.
-
- Martin Minow
- minow%thundr.dec@decwrl.dec.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: "K.BLATTER" <klb@lzaz.att.com>
- Subject: Re: How big can a Local Dialing Area be?
- Date: 6 Apr 89 16:48:23 GMT
- Organization: AT&T ISL Lincroft NJ USA
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0115m05@vector.UUCP>, folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta)
- writes:
- > a local call to anywhere in a 500-square-mile area. If you count DC as
- > a state, that includes three states (MD, VA, DC).
-
- > But is this really a very large area? How large might a local call area be
- > in LA or NY? Are all local dialing areas determined by distance, or might
- > there be an *enormous* exchange out in Montana somewhere that includes
- > thousands of square miles but only a few thousand people?
-
-
- To my knowledge, the largest (in terms of square miles) local dialing
- area in the United States is the Big Island of Hawaii in, of course,
- Hawaii. It is roughly 4900 square miles in size.
-
- Both New York City (212) and Los Angeles (213) are "full". This is
- the reason that new area codes have been spawned off of them. These
- areas have the most numbers assigned to them. (Also, Chicago (312) is
- probably in the running.
-
- As I mentioned earlier, the Big Island in Hawaii has the largest
- geographical area 4900 square miles.
-
- Kevin L. Blatter
- AT&T - Bell Labs
-
- Disclaimer -- These estimates are my own and have nothing whatsoever to
- do with my employer.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Brent <itm!brent@gatech.edu>
- Subject: Re: How big can a Local Dialing Area be?
- Date: 6 Apr 89 17:55:43 GMT
- Reply-To: Brent <itm!brent@gatech.edu>
- Organization: In Touch Ministries, Atlanta, GA
-
-
-
- I am told that the Atlanta, GA area is the largest local-call
- area in the US. From end to end it's an approximate circle, with
- a radius of about 50 miles. A few years ago, Southern Bell tried
- to introduce metered service, billing by the distance of the call.
- The hue and cry was great. It was promptly shelved.
-
- brent laminack (gatech!itm!brent)
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 6 Apr 89 08:23:54 EDT
- From: steve (Steve Pozgaj)
- Subject: Re: Selling an Interesting Telephone Number?
- Reply-To: steve@dmntor.UUCP (Steve Pozgaj)
- Organization: Digital Media Networks Inc. Toronto, Ontario, Canada
-
- A. E. Siegman siegman@sierra.stanford.edu asks:
-
- > Anyone have any thoughts on the dollar value of such a number? Rumor
- > has it that someone whose all-digit dialing number was "AMERICA" got
- > $1000 for turning over this number during the Centennial".
-
- I only know of one published sale. It was the Hyatt hotel chain.
- They bought 1-800-243-2546 (CHECKIN) from Hank and Marie Oscar,
- of Oscarvision Systems, for $40,000 + $5,000 in credit towards hotel stays.
-
- A heck of a lot better than a few pizza coupons:-)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Brent <itm!brent@gatech.edu>
- Subject: Re: Cellular Phones and Big Brother
- Date: 6 Apr 89 17:43:56 GMT
- Reply-To: Brent <itm!brent@gatech.edu>
- Organization: In Touch Ministries, Atlanta, GA
-
-
-
- Indeed Big Brother is watching. I discussed cellular fraud
- with a tech person who works with a cellular provider. When they
- detect a fradulent user (he claimed they could detect such the
- first time they used the phone), they put their number on a
- "fraudlent" list and included the geographic area (cell) where
- they were. Then I guess they look for patterns.
-
- brent laminack (gatech!itm!brent)
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Steve Cisler <goofy!apple.com!sac@apple.com>
- Subject: Re: Yes! Directory Assistance via Modem
- Date: 8 Apr 89 16:44:54 GMT
- Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
-
-
- At the end of March there was some discussion of white page listings on
- CD-ROM. US West and Nynex have done this. Both were in attendance at the recent
- Microsoft CD-ROM conference in Anaheim, California. Nynex had a hospitality
- suite and their product was being shown on the exhibit floor. Silver Platter
- announced a competing product 'at a fraction of the cost' of Nynex's disc
- which runs around $10,000.
-
- I was very impressed with the speed and the scope of the product. It was
- broken in two geographical areas: New England and New York (perhaps just the
- metro area rather than the whole state). It allowed you to look by name,
- address, phone number, zip code (I think), and by 'neighbors'. So many
- credit agencies call libraries to ask for 'nearbys' --people who live near the
- subject of the call--that this was an important feature for the RBOCs clients.
-
- Considering the amount of work that libraries do for the telcos--extended
- 411 service: they will look up addresses if they have the time--each RBOC
- ought to make these available free of charge to the reference desks of
- many libraries. Most will find the price way too high.
-
- The RBOCs also want to have a common interface to their discs, and maybe
- even one search engine. Given the compeititve nature, it may not happen.
- But it would be to their advantage if it did.
-
- Steve Cisler
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 6 Apr 89 21:00:12 EDT
- From: Miguel_Cruz@ub.cc.umich.edu
- Subject: Re: Centrex
-
- Re: Will Martin - "...the silly use-the-switchhook business to transfer..."
-
- At one office, I'm on Centrex, and we have phones from Comdial with a TAP
- button. When you press the switchhook (no matter for how long), the phone
- stays on-hook for exactly the time Centrex needs to know you want to hang
- up. When you push TAP, it does a flash.
-
- Maybe you could find a phone that functions similarly; it makes Centrex's
- transfer feature pretty painless.
-
-
-
-
-
- Miguel Cruz
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Dave Levenson <westmark!dave@rutgers.edu>
- Subject: Re: Centrex
- Date: 7 Apr 89 13:43:07 GMT
- Organization: Westmark, Inc., Warren, NJ, USA
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0125m02@vector.UUCP>, wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil
- (Will Martin -- AMXAL-RI) writes:
- > The main fault I find with Centrex, in an operational, user-interface sense,
- >is the silly use-the-switchhook business to transfer calls and get another
- >line.
-
- > I would think that one of the touchtone buttons, like # or *, could be
- > sensed during a call to perform the action that is now controlled by the
- > switchhook.
-
- There are two reasons why touchtones are not recognized during
- conversation. One is economic: tone-detectors are more expensive
- then talking-links in the central office. If one had to be
- dedicated to every conversation, and not (as they are now) only when
- dialing is in progress, the central office would cost more.
-
- The other reason has to do with the present state-or-the-art in
- discriminating between voice and touchtone. If you listen to a
- conversation with a touch tone detector, you'll detect a number of
- apparent touch-tones in ordinary speech. Even more if there is
- background noise consisting of music at either end of the
- conversation.
-
- In most of the world outside North America, PBX switches use a
- "grounding button" where we tend to use a hook-flash to get the
- switch's attention. The switchhook always means disconnect. The
- momentary ground on one side of the loop begins the "consultation
- call/conference call/transfer call" sequence. While this is good
- for PBX use, central office services (including centrex) would
- probably be less reliable using this method, as outside plant ground
- faults would play havoc with the switching machine.
-
- --
- Dave Levenson /-----------------------------\
- Westmark, Inc. | If you can't give me your |
- Warren, NJ USA | Phone number, don't call! |
- {rutgers | att}!westmark!dave \-----------------------------/
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Dave Kucharczyk <ssr@cos.com>
- Subject: Re: Gremlins in the network
- Date: 7 Apr 89 15:32:29 GMT
- Reply-To: Dave Kucharczyk <cos!ssr@uunet.uu.net>
- Organization: Corporation for Open Systems, McLean, VA
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0125m09@vector.UUCP> Paul Anderson <stiatl!pda@gatech.
- edu> writes:
-
- >In article <telecom-v09i0124m07@vector.UUCP> LANGFORD@crc.crc.vcu.edu writes:
- >>A friend and I had a strange experience this weekend. She came home and
- >>played back her answering machine, and got this:
- >> <beep> <beep> <beep> (those tones that come with intercept recordings)
- >> "We're sorry, all of our circuits are in use now; please try your call
- >> again later."
-
- >I have had the same thing happen to my answering machine here in Atlanta
- >once every other day for a week and a half now... Can anyone take any
- >guesses as to what is happening?
-
-
-
- yes, someone with three way calling is having a good laugh now, at
- your expense. just wait till you start getting 'the call you have
- made requires a twenty five cent deposit'.
-
- dave
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 7 Ap2o`1^5:38:27 EDT
- From: "David M. Kurtiak" <dmkdmk@uncecs.edu>
- Subject: Re: Gremlins in the network
-
- >In article <telecom-v09i0124m07@vector.UUCP> LANGFORD@crc.crc.vcu.edu writes:
- >>A friend and I had a strange experience this weekend. She came home and
- >>played back her answering machine, and got this:
- >> <beep> <beep> <beep> (those tones that come with intercept recordings)
- >> "We're sorry, all of our circuits are in use now; please try your call
- >> again later."
- >
- >I have had the same thing happen to my answering machine here in Atlanta
- >once every other day for a week and a half now... Can anyone take any
- >guesses as to what is happening?
- >
- >paul
-
- I occasionally have had this strange phenomenon happen to me, and
- couldn't explain it until one day I was right there when it happened.
- It appears that an incoming call rang the phone once. The answering
- machine picked up, but the caller immediately hung up at the same time
- (maybe a wrong number?). The answering machine (being a real el-cheapo
- economy model), didn't detect that the 'call' was disconnected. It went
- on playing the outgoing message to the dial tone now being sent by the
- telco. Dial tone timed out, while the answering machine is now listening
- for a message to be left, resulting in the telephone company recording
- seeming to have called me!
-
- -------
- David M. Kurtiak
- Internet: dmkdmk@ecsvax.uncecs.edu
- Bitnet: DMKDMK@ECSVAX.BITNET
- UUCP: dmkdmk@ecsvax.UUCP {rutgers,gatech}!mcnc!ecsvax!dmkdmk
-
- "What do you expect? The truth or the story? Take the story, it's
- always more interesting."
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
-
- From: dts@cloud9.Stratus.COM
- Subject: Re: Gremlins in the network
- Date: 6 Apr 89 23:10:23 GMT
- Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., Marlboro, MA
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0125m09@vector.UUCP>, stiatl!pda@gatech.edu (Paul
- Anderson) writes:
- > In article <telecom-v09i0124m07@vector.UUCP> LANGFORD@crc.crc.vcu.edu writes:
- > >A friend and I had a strange experience this weekend. She came home and
- > >played back her answering machine, and got this:
- > > <beep> <beep> <beep> (those tones that come with intercept recordings)
- > > "We're sorry, all of our circuits are in use now; please try your call
- > > again later."
- >
- > I have had the same thing happen to my answering machine here in Atlanta
-
- We had a similar problem with the dialup lines at our company. The modems
- started answering the phones when there was no call. The result, predictably,
- was lots of screaming modems (The "your phone is off the hook" noise).
-
- The problem turned out to be a servicing error at the local #5ESS switching
- office. They has replaced some of the line cards and had set them up wrong.
- Evidently the line voltage was high enough to confuse some devices into
- thinking it was time to go off-hook. The modems in this case were Microcoms,
- and they evidently (according to our hardware types) were properly within spec.
-
- --
- Daniel Senie UUCP: harvard!ulowell!cloud9!dts
- Stratus Computer, Inc. ARPA: anvil!cloud9!dts@harvard.harvard.edu
- 55 Fairbanks Blvd. CSRV: 74176,1347
- Marlboro, MA 01752 TEL.: 508 - 460 - 2686
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: irv@happym.wa.com
- Subject: Re: Cordless phone that works within 10 miles
- Date: 10 Apr 89 02:46:59 GMT
- Reply-To: 0000-Irving Wolfe <happym!irv@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
- Organization: SOLID VALUE, the newsletter for Benjamin Graham's intelligent
- investor (sample on request)
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0125m06@vector.UUCP> "t.m.ko" <tmk@io.att.com> writes:
- >I am looking for a cordless phone that would work even if the handset
- >is away from the base for up to 10 miles.
-
- Amazing! I'd be grateful to have a cordless phone that would work from one
- end of my >house< to the other without buzz or interference as I pass through
- the fields of the high voltage power lines outside! If I could have one that
- would let me walk around the block with my dog, that would be magnificent!
-
- --
- Irving Wolfe irv@happym.wa.com Happy Man Corp, 119 Aloha St
- 206/282-9598 tikal!camco!happym!irv Seattle, WA 98109-3799
- SOLID VALUE, the investment letter for Benj. Graham's intelligent investors
- (free sample on request: tami@happym.wa.com)
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: Gremlins in the network
- Date: Fri Apr 7 23:05:43 1989
- From: phantom <slinky!fjh@uunet.uu.net>
-
- From article <telecom-v09i0124m07@vector.UUCP>, by LANGFORD@crc.crc.vcu.edu:
- > Is this a new service? The switch notifies people when high utilization
- > occurs? Was her recorder trying to make calls to its friends? The
- > message (and especially the tones) sounded real, or I would be more inclined
- > to expect a joke (it was April 1st.....).
-
- Oh, you have service from Contel.
-
- The year-round April Fool's joke!
-
- I have heard worse sounding intercepts, so it probably is legitimate.
- But then, there are ways to 3-way legitimate recordings to
- others' numbers. :)(:
-
- Francis J. Haynes
- uunet!slinky!fjh
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 89 08:36:41 EDT
- From: "A. M. Boardman" <ab4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu>
- Subject: Centrex
-
- >There are a half a dozen companies that sell telephones with a "Flash" button:
- >press it and it flashes the switchhook for exactly the appropriate amount of
- >time for call waiting or 3-way calling.
-
- This can, however, be taken to extremes. The telephones of Columbia's new
- digital CBX have, among a plethora of other buttons, a flash button.
- In no detectable way, however, does this button actually flash the line
- in any traditional sense; it is instead just another signal to the exchange.
- Really flashing will disconnect the line every time. I'd love to find out
- more about how the system works, but, as in everything related to IBM,
- the information is proprietary. (It's an IBM/Rolm 9751 CBX -- a half-
- decent buisness system, but totally unsuited for a university environment.
- It replaced a vastly more popular Centrex system.)
-
- "ROLM is a four letter word"
- Andrew Boardman ab4@cunixc.[columbia.edu|bitnet] {backbone}!columbia!cunixc!ab4
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
-
- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 89 14:12:01 est
- From: fac martin weiss <mbw@idis.lis.pittsburgh.edu>
- Subject: Text of HR971 - AOS
-
- Attached is the text of HR 971, a bill submitted by Rep. Jim Cooper
- (D-Tenn) regarding the AOS industry. I would like to make it available
- to the telecom bulletin board. BTW - thanks for posting the text of
- the FCC decision
-
- --Martin Weiss
- University of Pittsburgh
- mbw@idis.lis.pittsburgh.edu
-
-
- ============================ Cut here 8< ============== 8< ============
-
- 101st Congress
- 1st Session
-
- H.R. 971
-
-
- To require the Federal Communications Commission to prescribe rules to
- protect consumers from unfair practices in the provision of operator
- services, and for other purposes.
-
-
-
- IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
-
- February 9, 1989
-
- Mr. Cooper (for himself, Mr. Swift, and Mr. Leland) introduced the
- following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and
- Commerce
-
-
- A BILL
-
- To require the Federal Communications Commission to prescribe rules to
- protect consumers from unfair practices in the provision of operator
- services, and for other purposes.
-
- Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
- United States of America in Congress assembled,
-
- SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE
-
- This Act may be cited as the "Telephone Operator Service
- Consumer Protection Act of 1989".
-
- SEC. 2. FINDINGS
-
- The Congress hereby finds that --
-
- (1) the divestiture of AT&T and decision allowing open
- entry for competitors in the telephone marketplace produced a
- variety of new services and many new providers of existing
- telephone services;
-
- (2) the growth of competition in the telecommunications
- market makes it essential to ensure that safeguards are in place to
- assure fairness for consumers and service providers alike;
-
- (3) a variety of providers of operator services now
- compete to win contracts to provide operator services to hotels,
- hospitals, airports, and other aggregators of telephone business from
- consumers;
-
- (4) the mere existence of a variety of service providers in
- the operator services marketplace is significant in making that
- market competitive only when consumers are able to make
- informed choices from among those service providers;
-
- (5) however, often consumers have no choices in selecting
- a provider of operator services, and often customers' attempts to
- reach their preferred long distance carrier by a telephone billing
- card, credit card, or prearranged access number are blocked;
-
- (6) a number of state regulatory authorities have taken
- action to protect consumers using intrastate operator services;
-
- (7) from January 1988 through February 1989, the Federal
- Communications Commission received over 2000 complaints about
- operator services;
-
- (8) these consumers have complained that they are denied
- access to the interexchange carrier of their choice, that they are
- deceived about the identity of the company servicing their calls and
- the rates being charged, that they lack information on what they
- can do to complain about unfair treatment by an operator service
- provider, and that they are, accordingly, being deprived of the free
- choice essential to the operation of a competitive market; and
-
- (9) a combination of industry self-regulation and
- government regulation is required to ensure that competitive
- operator services are provided in a fair and reasonable manner.
-
- SEC. 3. DEFINITION
-
- As used in this Act:
-
- (1) The term "Commission" means the Federal
- Communications Commission.
-
- (2) The term "the Act" means the Communications Act of
- 1934.
-
- (3) The term "consumer" means a person initiating any
- interstate telephone call using operator services.
-
- (4) The term "operator services" means any interstate
- telecommunications service that includes, as a component, any
- automatic or live assistance to a consumer to arrange for billing or
- completion, or both, of an interstate telephone call through a
- method other than automatic completion with billing to the
- telephone from which the call originated.
-
- (5) The term "aggregator" means any person, that, in the
- ordinary course of its operations, makes telephones available to the
- public or to transient users of its premises for interstate telephone
- calls using a provider of operator services.
-
- SEC. 4. RULEMAKING REQUIRED
-
- (a) INITIATION OF PROCEEDINGS. - The Commission shall,
- within 30 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, initiate a
- proceeding pursuant to title II of the Act to establish regulations to protect
- consumers whose use operator services to place interstate telephone calls
- from unfair and deceptive practices and to ensure that consumers have the
- opportunity to make informed choices in making such calls.
-
- (b) TIMING AND CONTENTS OF REGULATION. - The
- regulation required by subsection (a) shall --
-
- (1) be prescribed not later than 180 days after the date of
- enactment of this Act;
-
- (2) contain provisions to implement each of the
- requirements of section 5;
-
- (3) for purposes of administration and enforcement, be
- treated as regulations prescribed by the Commission pursuant to
- title II of the Act; and
-
- (4) take effect not later than 270 days after the date of
- enactment of this Act.
-
- SEC. 5. MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS
-
- The regulations required by section 4 shall, at a minimum --
-
- (1) require that the provider of the operator services
- identify itself, audibly and distinctly, to the consumer prior to the
- consumer incurring any charges and permit the consumer to
- terminate the telephone call at no charge;
-
- (2) require that the provider of operator services ensure, by
- contract, that each aggregator post on or near the telephone
- instrument, in plain view of consumers --
-
- (A) the name, address, and toll-free telephone
- number of the provider, and
-
- (B) a written disclosure that consumers have a
- right to obtain access to the interstate common carrier or
- their choice and may contact their preferred interstate
- common carriers for information on accessing that carrier's
- service using that telephone;
-
- (3) require that the provider of operator services disclose
- immediately to the consumer upon request --
-
- (A) a quote of its rates or charges for the call;
-
- (B) methods by which such rates or charges will
- be collected; and
-
- (C) the methods by which complaints concerning
- such rates, charges, or collection practices will be resolved;
-
- (4) require that the provider of operator services --
-
- (A) neither require nor participate in the blocking
- of any consumer's access to the interstate common carrier
- of the consumer's choice; and
-
- (B) assure, by contract, that its aggregators neither
- require nor participate in the blocking of access to such
- interstate common carriers;
-
- (5) require that the provider of operator services charge
- rates which are just and reasonable as required by title II of the
- Act, which requirement shall include, at a minimum --
-
- (A) prohibiting the provider of operator services
- for knowingly charging for uncompleted calls;
-
- (B) ensuring that, in charging for distance, the
- provider of operator services charge for no more than the
- distance, in a straight line, between the points of
- origination and termination of telephone calls; and
-
- (C) ensuring that any consumer billing a telephone
- call on a billing card provided by an interstate common
- carrier is billed at the rate of that common carrier for that
- call;
-
- (6) establish minimum standards for providers of operator
- services to use in the routing and handling of emergency telephone
- calls; and
-
- (7) establish a policy for requiring common carriers to
- make public information about recent changes in operator services
- and choices available to consumers in the market.
-
-
- [Moderator's Note: Regrettably, I am not certain if this was the intended
- ending of Martin's submission, or if it got truncated en-route. As Milton
- Berle used to say, "...a funny thing happened on the way to the Telecom
- mailbox today...." It seems an abrupt ending. Hopefully I got it all. PT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 89 14:14:20 CST
- From: Will Martin -- AMXAL-RI <wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil>
- Subject: Cellular eavesdropping in the press
-
- The following item appeared in RISKS Digest V8 #52 and is of interest
- to Telecom and Hams. Please note there is no mention of the ECPA in this,
- except fo a slight allusion to it at the end. Also note that the equipment
- being used is not a high-end 800 MHz-coverage scanner, but a simple TV
- audio tuner or radio. Obviously a continuous-tuned TV will work as well.
- (Maybe the bandwidth on this simpler equipment is wide enough that the
- listeners get multiple cellular frequencies without retuning, and
- therefore are not impeded by the frequency-hopping during handoffs
- within conversations? That would mean this low-tech method was actually
- better for surreptitious eavesdropping than using more sophisticated
- equipment. Certainly makes fools of the scanner manufacturers who
- program out cellular coverage!) -- Will Martin
-
- ***Begin included item***
- Date: Fri, 07 Apr 89 20:27:24 -0400
- From: denbeste@BBN.COM
- Subject: Cellular telephones
-
- From the 4/7/89 Boston Globe:
-
- "Some Bostonians are having the time of their lives eavesdropping on Nynex
- Mobile Communications cellular phones. With the help of their trusty Radio Shack
-
- Portavision 55s, designed to pick up the audio portion of UHF television
- signals, these naughty people claim to have heard Secretary of Finance and
- Administration Edward Lashman discussing a press conference with his wife and
- Boston Mayor Ray Flynn checking in with his office. "It makes for a great day,"
- says one listener who calls in sick at his job to spend the day with his ear
- pressed against the radio. "At 7 a.m. you hear the construction people
- complaining that their suppliers delivered the wrong stuff. At 9, it's the
- lawyers telling their clients how to lie in court. After noon the risque stuff
- starts..."
-
- The article goes on to say that Radio Shack no longer sells that model, and
- that the FCC says such eavesdropping is illegal.
-
- Steven C. Den Beste, BBN Communications Corp., Cambridge MA
- ***End of item***
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 89 18:45:59 +0100
- From: pwt1%ukc.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk
- Subject: Re: 976-WAKE - up Service in California
-
- Wake up calls are available in Britain for 10pence a time (18c) if you happen
- to be connected to a System-X exchange. The service comes free rental together
- with Charge-Advice which rings back and tells you how much your call cost.
- Both services offer Minutes of endless fun with payphones that have not had the
- two services disabled (particularly as payphones return your 10p!)
-
- Peter Thurston
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 89 23:42:31 PDT
- From: Kian-Tat Lim <lim@csvax.caltech.edu>
- Subject: Re: 976 WAKE - up Service in California
-
- Ummm... From the description given of the wake-up service ("entering his own
- telephone number"), it appears that it would be quite easy to annoy my enemies
- (for $2/day), without my having to be awake to place the crank call. As this
- service is presumably provided by a company separate from PacBell, the call
- would also be a little more difficult to trace.
-
- This kind of service would be much more secure if Calling Party ID were
- implemented for it, and such usage of CPID should not be objectionable to
- civil libertarians.
-
- --
- Kian-Tat Lim (ktl@wagvax.caltech.edu, KTL @ CITCHEM.BITNET, GEnie: K.LIM1)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: John Higdon <decvax!decwrl!apple!zygot!john@ucbvax.berkeley.edu>
- Subject: Re: 976 WAKE - up Service in California
- Date: 10 Apr 89 20:51:24 GMT
- Organization: ATI Wares Team
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0126m08@vector.dallas.tx.us>, telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
- (TELECOM Moderator) writes:
- > The charge is $2 for each wakeup/reminder call. You do not have to be in
- > California to hear how it works; just dial 213-976-WAKE. From outside of
- > California all you will pay is around 25 cents if you call at night, but
-
- The California 976 providers hate it when you do that :-) Pacific Bell
- may be the only BOC to not block 976 calls from outside the state. As a
- result, providers' call counters click away, but the Pac*Bell
- remittance is a pittance. Some of the party line people have literally
- been driven out of business because their machines have been busied out
- by out of state (and non-remitting) calls.
- --
- John Higdon | P. O. Box 7648 | +1 408 723 1395
- john@zygot.uucp | San Jose, CA 95150 | M o o !
-
- [Moderator's Note: You mean like 415-976-4297, which bills itself as the
- San Fransisco Hot Conference, where in just a few seconds you will be
- connected for up to two and a half minutes of lively adult conversation?
- Men from all over the world call that thing for the cost of the tolls. To
- heck with any surcharge! That only applies to Californians, and *they* call
- the one in New York City to avoid the same surcharges! PT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- From: John Higdon <decvax!decwrl!apple!zygot!john@ucbvax.berkeley.edu>
- Subject: Re: Divestiture was not a mistake
- Date: 10 Apr 89 20:45:16 GMT
- Organization: ATI Wares Team
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0126m01@vector.dallas.tx.us>, optilink!cramer@ames.
- arc.nasa.gov (Clayton Cramer) writes:
- [Regarding COCOTs]
- > If it's REALLY a "quasi-emergency device", then price is really not an
- > issue. Would you object to paying $2 to make a phone call for an
- > ambulance after a traffic accident?
-
- In reality *that* call would be free as mandated by tarrifs. What I
- really object to is paying $3.50 for a one-minute call from San
- Francisco to San Jose to say I'm going to be late. Particularly when
- there is no indication that this will be the case.
-
- > If it truly "rips you off" (doesn't provide the specified service)
- > that's quite different from "outrageous pricing".
-
- This is a grey area to be sure, but when I call my voice mail for
- messages and the tone pad ceases to work midway through the session and
- I am forced to simply hang up, leaving my listened-to vs unlisted-to
- messages in total disarray, animalistic tendancies come to the fore.
- You have to be in this position to appreciate the frustration.
-
- Perhaps if such phones were required to carry a notice e.g.:
-
- "This telephone cannot be used to access voice mail or other DTMF
- activated services."
-
- it would save a lot of trouble.
- --
- John Higdon | P. O. Box 7648 | +1 408 723 1395
- john@zygot.uucp | San Jose, CA 95150 | M o o !
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10-APR-1989 02:50:42.15
- From: "DOUGLAS SCOTT REUBEN)" <DREUBEN@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
- Subject: re: FCC AOS Order
-
-
- (I am assuming that as the release date was Feb 27th, the effective
- date was March 27th, as stated towards the end of the order.)
-
- 1. The named AOS outfits MUST ID themselves at all times.
-
- 2. The named AOS outfits MUST post rate/customer service information
- by May 27th, 1989. (60 days from effective date.
-
- 3. The named AOS outfits MUST stop blocking and/or contact the owners
- of COCOTS, dorm phones, etc, and require that they discontinue
- blocking by April 27th, 1989.
-
- 4. The named AOS outfits may continue to connect you to AT&T/local Bell
- Operators, but are not required to do so.
-
-
- So am I correct as to the dates for parts 1-3?
-
- If I find a COCOT, let's say sometime in July (to give them some time...)
- that still blocks me from dialing 10288, what recourse do I have?
- Do I complain directly to the FCC, or the state Public Service Commission,
- or who? (Obviously the FCC assumes all of the 5 named AOS 'firms' will
- comply, but what if they don't?)
-
- Finally, what will be the equal access code for the local Bell operator?
- In New York (NYTel) it's 10NYT, in PA 10BPA, Jersey 10NJB, etc. Yet
- are we going to be required to remember hundreds of local 10xxx numbers,
- or will there be one standard one? (Or will just dialing "0" just get
- you a local Bell Op., like it did when we had a normal phone system
- a few years back? [sorry for editorializing..])
-
- Well, all I can say is I'm glad to be in Connecticut, where we don't
- have such problems (at least not from payphones...) (Although what
- WAS the State of CT 'observing' down in DC anyhow? Hmmmm....)
-
- -Doug
-
- DReuben%Eagle.Weslyn@Wesleyan.Bitnet
- DReuben@Eagle.Wesleyan.Edu
- (and just plain old 'DReuben' to locals! :-) )
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- From: "Howard J. Postley" <bambam!hjp@uunet.uu.net>
- Subject: Determining length of country code
- Date: 10 Apr 89 18:32:10 GMT
- Organization: On Word, Inc.; Santa Monica, CA
-
-
- Could anyone tell me what the formula for determining the number of digits
- in a country code is. From the U.S. there are 1, 2, and three digit
- codes. When I am parsing international phone numbers, I am having a
- tough time figuring out where the country code ends and the phone number
- starts.
-
- Thanks in advance,
-
- //hjp
-
- --
- Howard Postley usenet: uunet!bambam!hjp
- On Word internet: hjp@bambam.bedrock.com
- phone: +1 213 399 7733
- snail: 2434 Main St; Santa Monica, CA 90405
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Subject: dialing with switchhook
- Reply-To: franklin@turing.cs.rpi.edu
- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 89 16:48:56 EDT
- From: Wm Randolph Franklin <wrf@mab.ecse.rpi.edu>
-
- In the 60s pay phones were designed with mercury switches on the hook so
- that if you tried to dial with the hook the splashing mercury would
- defeat you. Otherwise you could make local calls for a nickel instead
- of a dime, or some such thing.
- --------
- Wm. Randolph Franklin
- Paper: ECSE Dept., 6026 JEC, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst, Troy NY, 12180
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 10 Apr 89 15:47:23 EDT
- From: Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@brl.mil>
- Subject: Shenandoah National Park, Va.
-
- I just travelled down the Skyline Drive in Virginia, from Front Royal
- to Waynesboro, and have the following data regarding phones along it
- (notice several phone prefixes not in use outside the park?):
-
- Public phones available along it (mileposts southbound from Front Royal):
- Dickey Ridge Visitor Center, 4.6; use Front Royal exchange, 635 or 636
- in 703 area
- Mathews Arm Campground, 22.3
- Elkwallow Wayside, 24.1; use 703-420, on phone bill as Elkwallow
- Panorama Restaurant, 31.5; use 703-421, on phone bill as Panorama
- Skyland Lodge, 41.7; use 703-422
- Byrd Visitor Center, 51; apparently use 703-423, on phone bill as
- Big Meadows (see the pattern forming with use of 42x? comments?)
- Lewis Mountain Campground, 57.6; apparently use 703-424
- Swift Run Entrance, 65
- Loft Mountain Wayside, 79.7; I saw pay phone on 804-823 Crozet,
- the name of a town which is RATHER far away.
-
- Also, 703-999 is used for official phone numbers in this park;
- it appears on phone bill as Shenandoah Park.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 89 00:44 EST
- From: LANGFORD@crc.crc.vcu.edu
- Subject: AOSs and the H.R. bill
-
- It seems to me that the reason we have the problem with high AOS fees is that
- normal market forces aren't at work, not so much because of uninformed
- customers, but because the person making the choice of which AOS is used is
- not the person who _uses_ it, and the two people have different goals.
- As I understand it, a hotel or airport (or other property owner) signs up with
- an AOS and receives a cut from the revenue generated by the phones at that
- location. Thus, the incentive for both the AOS _and_ the property owner is
- toward _increased_ prices and/or kickbacks, whereas the user, who pays the
- bill, would have chosen the exact opposite. There's no negative feedback
- built in---in fact, it's positive feedback, guaranteed to go out of control.
- (I discount such indirect effects as complaining to the manager, which can
- in fact act as a control, and complaining to the FCC, which seems to have
- had a major effect on the situation.) Maybe all that's needed is to require
- hotels or airports (or whoever) to use the same AOS for their own business
- lines as for the pay phones---that gives them the right economic incentives.
-
- With regard to the posting of the bill before the House of Rep., did you
- notice that it requires AOSs that accept my MCI calling card to bill the call
- at the MCI rate? Even if their network is resold AT&T lines, perhaps at
- a higher rate than MCI? I'll bet that if this passes intact, these AOS
- companies will stop honoring calling cards from the "discount" long-distance
- companies (and maybe even AT&T, if the specific call computes as a "net loss").
- They could always route you straight to your favorite carrier, after all, and
- let _them_ carry it at their own rate.
-
- Reminds me of the Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."
-
- Bob Langford
- Medical College of Virginia
- langford@crc.crc.vcu.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 11 Apr 89 01:05:46 HST
- From: Mike Newton <kahuna!newton@csvax.caltech.edu>
- Subject: Local Calling Area For Hawaii
- Reply-To: kahuna!csvax.caltech.edu!newton@csvax.caltech.edu
-
-
- In V9#115, Wayne Folta asks about large calling areas. Well we have
- a rather large/unique calling area (someone else mentioned it, but
- had slightly wrong figures):
- [] Large local calling area: 4038 sq miles as of 1980.
- [] Growing calling area: the volcano adds more area each day.
- [] One of the widest (?) variations in altitude: 0 to 13800 feet
- (there are many phones at the observatories "up top").
- of course, there are some disadvantages:
- [] Every non-local call is "overseas", and of poor quality.
- [] Its cheaper for me to call the mainland (ROM) than
- Oahu (another island), yet every mainland call goes
- through Oahu!
- [] it reaches very few people (125,000) (roughly 10 exchanges)
-
- I strongly suspect areas in Alaska, Montana, Nevada,... have larger
- 'local' areas.
-
- - mike
-
- From the bit bucket in the middle of the Pacific...
-
- Mike Newton newton@csvax.caltech.edu
- Caltech Submillimeter Observatory kahuna!newton@csvax.caltech.edu
- Post Office Box 4339
- Hilo Hawaii 96720 808 935 1909
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- Date: Wed Apr 12 14:32:57 1989
- From: John Hood <biar!jhood@uunet.uu.net>
- Subject: Re: FCC AOS Order
- Reply-To: jhood@biar.UUCP (John Hood)
- Organization: Biar Games Inc., Ithaca, NY
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0131m06@vector.dallas.tx.us>
- DREUBEN@eagle.wesleyan.edu) (DOUGLAS SCOTT REUBEN) writes:
- >After reading the lengthly FCC rulemaking order on AOS outfits
- >(and THANKS for posting it!), I want to make sure I have the
- >'timetable' correct:
-
- Well, I don't know if it is or not, but...
-
- >3. The named AOS outfits MUST stop blocking and/or contact the owners
- > of COCOTS, dorm phones, etc, and require that they discontinue
- > blocking by April 27th, 1989.
-
- This isn't quite correct. In the appendix, there is an escape hatch
- that allows AOS companies to continue blocking as necessary to prevent
- people from abusing the network. Now I ask, who decides what blocking
- is necessary...?
-
-
- --jh
- --
- John Hood, Biar Games snail: 10 Spruce Lane, Ithaca NY 14850 BBS: 607 257 3423
- domain: jhood@biar.uucp (we hope) bang: anywhere!uunet!biar!jhood
- [food for disclaimer readers]
- [special dessert tidbit for broken mailers]
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 89 10:39:16-1795
- From: "Steven A. Minneman" <stevem@fai.fai.com>
- Subject: Re: Determining the length of the country code
- Reply-To: stevem@fai.fai.com (Steven A. Minneman )
- Organization: Fujitsu America, Inc.
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0131m09@vector.dallas.tx.us> bambam!hjp@uunet.uu.net
- (Howard J. Postley) writes:
- >X-TELECOM-Digest: volume 9, issue 131, message 9 of 11
-
- >Could anyone tell me what the formula for determining the number of digits
- >in a country code is. ... When I am parsing international phone numbers, I
- >am having a tough time figuring out where the country code ends and the
- >phone number starts.
-
- Country codes are set forth in CCITT Recommendation E.163. There is no
- pattern. There are one, two, and three digit country codes. If the first
- digit is "1" or a "7" it is a one digit code. Otherwise, it is a two or three
- digit code depending on what the first two digits are.
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- From: Mark Brader <msb@sq.sq.com>
- Subject: Automatic hook-flash
- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 89 15:09:54 EDT
-
- > Will's problem is not with Centrex, it is with his telephone! There are
- > a half a dozen companies that sell telephones with a "Flash" button: press
- > it and it flashes the switchhook for exactly the appropriate amount of time
- > for call waiting or 3-way calling.
-
- I've also seen the button called "Link".
-
- But this doesn't solve Will's problem. Will's problem wasn't that he had
- trouble flashing the hook for the right length of time -- it was that the
- system accepted an on-hook period longer than that length as being a flash.
- False positive, not false negative, so to speak.
-
- --
- Mark Brader "VAX 3 in 1 carpet care -- now 129.95 pounds"
- utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 89 14:28:38 EDT
- From: scott@dtscp1.UUCP (Scott Barman)
- Subject: Re: How big can a Local Dialing Area be?
- Reply-To: scott@dtscp1.UUCP (Scott Barman)
- Organization: Digital Transmission Systems (a subsidiary of DCA), Duluth, GA
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0129m03@vector.dallas.tx.us> klb@lzaz.att.com
- (K.BLATTER) writes:
- >In article <telecom-v09i0115m05@vector.UUCP>, folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta)
- >writes:
- >> a local call to anywhere in a 500-square-mile area. If you count DC as
- >> a state, that includes three states (MD, VA, DC).
- >> But is this really a very large area? How large might a local call area be
- >> in LA or NY? Are all local dialing areas determined by distance, or might
- >> there be an *enormous* exchange out in Montana somewhere that includes
- >> thousands of square miles but only a few thousand people?
- >To my knowledge, the largest (in terms of square miles) local dialing
- >area in the United States is the Big Island of Hawaii in, of course,
- >Hawaii. It is roughly 4900 square miles in size.
-
- When I moved to the Atlanta Metro area, the Southern Bell representative
- told me that the Atlanta area is the second largest "toll free" calling
- zone in the United States. From what I understand, the Georgia Public
- Service Commission refuses to listen to reason when trying to change the
- way rates are charged (as it is I pay over $25 for service before long
- distance charges are added and the only "extra" I have is touch-tone
- service).
-
- My question is where is the largest? I think the woman at SoBell ment
- the number of available phones that I could call toll free when the
- statement was made (I don't know, just an impression). If so I think
- it would be interesting to find the largest.
-
- --
- scott barman
- {gatech, emory}!dtscp1!scott
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 89 10:08:02 PDT
- From: HECTOR MYERSTON <MYERSTON@kl.sri.com>
- Subject: Cordless Telephone Range
-
-
- Phones sold in the US are limited by the FCC to freq/power
- combinations which equate to 700 to 1000 feet free-space ranges. As
- someone pointed out, actual ranges tend to be much worse and transmissions
- highly subject to interference. There is a "Range Extender" passive
- antenna made by Valor which inmproves range but only marginally.
- Overseas, more powerful transmitters are used and ranges up
- to 50 Km are common. There ARE place in the US which sell them for
- "use outside the US". One such is Phone Masters in LA. I do not
- recommend trying then here, you will probably interfere with someone
- and the FCC will eventually track you down.
- Telcos also use various narrow-band microwave sets to save
- stringing wire to remote locations. These sets are not available
- to the public.
-
- [I tried to reply to tmk@research.att.com but the net
- didn't like the address]
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 89 11:08:44 EDT
- From: Carl Moore (VLD/VMB) <cmoore@brl.mil>
- Subject: Extra service offered by a COCOT
-
- I used a COCOT on 703-261 prefix in Buena Vista, Va. last Saturday,
- and after I had punched in credit card number (and waited for verifi-
- cation), I got (before my call went thru, which it did) a recording
- saying (this should be pretty much exact): "Thank you for using ITI.
- If busy or no answer, press 1 to leave a 1 minute message.".
-
- This suggests that this particular COCOT does indeed offer extra service
- not available with some other carriers. Also, it reminds me of that
- MESSAGE SERVICE note I copied off a phone at Finksburg, Md. recently.
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
- From: "Fred R. Goldstein dtn226-7388" <goldstein%delni.DEC@decwrl.dec.com>
- Date: 13 Apr 89 13:13
- Subject: Re: Flash vs. hangup
-
- In Telecom Digiest V9I134, Mark Brader <msb@sq.sq.com> says,
- >Subject: Automatic hook-flash
- >But this doesn't solve Will's problem. Will's problem wasn't that he had
- >trouble flashing the hook for the right length of time -- it was that the
- >system accepted an on-hook period longer than that length as being a flash.
- >False positive, not false negative, so to speak.
-
- Some sets will solve this problem! There are two different type of
- implementations of the timed-flash telephone. The one sold by Northern
- Telecom under the trademark "link" has a timed red flash button and an
- untimed hookswitch. But the ones sold by Comdial and Alcatel Cortelco
- have timed hookswitches too, typically around 2 seconds. (Comdial, then
- Stromberg-Carlson, made the Rolm Flashphone. Unless I'm confusing them
- with Cortelco, then ITT.)
-
- So the timed switchhook guarantees hangup. This could, I suppose, be
- viewed as a disadvantage; if you're used to flashing, you'll lose a few
- calls until you break yourself of the habit. But it's worthwhile.
-
- It was especially worthwhile for Rolm owners! Y'see, Rolm uses a
- different set of rules for feature-flashing. If you have a call on
- flash-hold and hang up a second call, the first call rings you back.
- (On most switches, like AT&T and NT, hanging up the second also
- disconnects the first; you flash to get back the first.)
-
- The upshot was that with ordinary untimed switchhooks, users would dial
- busy signals, press the switchhook, get dial tone, yak for a while, hang
- up, and the phone would ring back with a busy signal! Rolm's trainers
- didn't know why it was happening, either. Flashphones fixed it, since
- the switchhook guaranteed disconnect of that busy. (The flash tied up
- WATS trunks too, and the spurious call showed up on call detail billing.)
- fred
-
- ------------------------------
-
-
-
- From: Dave Fiske <davef@brspyr1.brs.com>
- Subject: Re: dialing with switchhook
- Date: 13 Apr 89 18:58:09 GMT
- Organization: BRS Info Technologies, Latham NY
-
-
- In article <telecom-v09i0131m10@vector.dallas.tx.us>, wrf@mab.ecse.rpi.edu
- (Wm Randolph Franklin) writes:
- > In the 60s pay phones were designed with mercury switches on the hook so
- > that if you tried to dial with the hook the splashing mercury would
- > defeat you. Otherwise you could make local calls for a nickel instead
- > of a dime, or some such thing.
-
- Here's a related anecdote.
-
- I saw an interview with Walter Cronkite once, where he spoke of his
- eary career as a newspaper reporter. One day the editor called him
- into his office, to ask about a reimbursement form Walter had put
- through for calls from pay phones. "What's this?" said the editor.
- "Well, I had to make some phone calls to the newspaper, and I want to
- be reimbursed." At this point the editor laughed and shouted out to
- another staff member "Hey, show this guy how to make a call from a pay
- phone," at which point the other person took two straight pins from the
- underside of his lapel, and stuck one into each of the wires leading to
- a pay phone in the hall. He then touched the wires together and the
- phone was powered up. Obviously, pay phones simply used a simple
- coin-activated switch to enable the connection in those days.
-
- --
- "FLYING ELEPHANTS DROP COW Dave Fiske (davef@brspyr1.BRS.COM)
- PIES ON HORRIFIED CROWD!"
- Home: David_A_Fiske@cup.portal.com
- Headline from Weekly World News CIS: 75415,163 GEnie: davef
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 89 07:43:10 PDT
- From: faigin@aerospace.aero.org
- Subject: Call Histories For Sale?
-
- I was listening to a "talk-radio" program on the way home yesterday, and
- they were discussing a new FCC ruling that allows telephone companies to
- sell to anyone the calling history and payment patterns for an individual
- account, unless specifically requested not to do so by the customer.
-
- Does anyone on [Telecom] know any more about this?
-
- Daniel
- Work :The Aerospace Corp M8/055 * POB 92957 * LA, CA 90009-2957 * 213/336-3149
- Home :8333 Columbus Avenue #17 * Sepulveda CA 91343 * 818/892-8555
- Email:faigin@aerospace.aero.org (or) Faigin@dockmaster.ncsc.mil
- Voicemail: 213/336-5454 Box#3149 * "Take what you like, and leave the rest"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Gerry Wheeler <mks!wheels@watmath.waterloo.edu>
- Date: 13 Apr 89 21:39:31 GMT
- Subject: 24 volt loop
- Organization: Mortice Kern Systems, Waterloo, Ont.
-
- I need some advice, and perhaps one of the readers can help.
-
- We have a new electronic phone system which includes several "single
- line jacks" -- jacks that emulate a normal loop to be used with modems,
- FAXes, answering machines, etc. The biggest difference is that these
- loops are powered with 24 volts, rather than the more normal 48 volts
- one would expect. Most of our equipment is quite happy with this,
- except for a credit card validation machine with an autodialer built in.
-
- I did some tests on this device (using several nine-volt batteries in
- series with the line!) and determined that it really is the low voltage
- causing the problem. As near as I can figure, the dialer tests the line
- voltage before going off hook, to avoid connecting to a line that is
- already in use. I presume they use a zener diode or something to
- provide a reference voltage. If the line voltage is higher than the
- reference, it will dial. If not, it gives an error message.
-
- I can see two different solutions. 1) change the zener diode, or 2)
- provide some sort of black box to convert the 24 volt loop to 48 volts.
- I can't really do option 1, because we don't own the machine. (Still,
- if anyone has a short list of part numbers for zener diodes that are
- about 30 volts, I may have a look for it.) So, does anyone know of a
- simple way to accomplish option 2? As I see it, this box would have to
- terminate the 24 volt loop, and provide power for a 48 volt loop, and
- patch the audio from one to the other. It would also have to sense the
- off hook condition and handle that appropriately.
-
- Any leads, or any ideas for other options I haven't considered, would
- be most appreciated.
- --
- Gerry Wheeler Phone: (519)884-2251
- Mortice Kern Systems Inc. UUCP: uunet!watmath!mks!wheels
- 35 King St. North BIX: join mks
- Waterloo, Ontario N2J 2W9 CompuServe: 73260,1043
-
- ------------------------------
-
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