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- Computer underground Digest Sun Jan 21, 1996 Volume 8 : Issue 06
- ISSN 1004-042X
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- Editors: Jim Thomas and Gordon Meyer (TK0JUT2@MVS.CSO.NIU.EDU
- Archivist: Brendan Kehoe
- Shadow Master: Stanton McCandlish
- Field Agent Extraordinaire: David Smith
- Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth
- Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala
- Ian Dickinson
- Cu Digest Homepage: http://www.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest
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- CONTENTS, #8.06 (Sun, Jan 21, 1996)
-
- File 1-- CYBERANGELS (in re: CuD 8.04)
- File 2--AOL Banned Poetry Dispute Heats UP
- File 3--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 16 Dec, 1995)
-
- CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION APPEARS IN
- THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE.
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- Date: Thu, Jan 18, 1996 5:36 PM EDT
- From: GANetWatch
- Subject: File 1-- CYBERANGELS (in re: CuD 8.04)
-
- I found Paul Kniesel's article about the Guardian/Cyber Angels
- highly subjective and misinformed, and in need of a reply.
-
- The CyberAngel's project is not as Paul suggests a "New York
- story" at all. It is in fact coordinated by me from Los
- Angeles, and I am in fact English. I am a member of the Board
- of Directors of the Guardian Angels and I am the CyberAngels
- Director. I have been patrolling and training with the
- organization for 7 years now and I am also the Director of
- Training worldwide. I have extensive experience with the
- Guardian Angels at both street patrol and administrative levels
- in Europe (England, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France, Italy) and
- in the USA (especially in New York City, San Francisco and Los
- Angeles). I have been working with the Internet for two years.
- That just to let you know that I am writing as someone who runs
- the Guardian Angels organization and heads up the Internet
- project.
-
- Firstly on the Guardian Angels. It appears that Paul's method is
- to discredit the CyberAngels by first discrediting its parent
- organization. He suggests that the Guardian Angels is a right
- wing, ultra-conservative, even fascist organization ("vigilante",
- "swastika pin", "Germanic Iron Cross pins"); that the Guardian
- Angels has a long history of law-breaking and human rights
- violations; and also that the Guardian Angels represents the
- interests of a ruling "business" class, and is even "employed" by
- this class against the rest of the population.
-
- It should be noted that the largest Guardian Angels group in the
- world today is in Berlin Germany, where the group has been
- running for three years. The group was established there as a
- direct response to the racial violence that has developed in
- Berlin since the Berlin Wall came down. The Berlin group is and
- has always been in the forefront of anti-racist and anti-violence
- activity in the city. Displayed prominently on our information
- brochure is a quotation from the United Nations Declaration on
- Human Rights: "Everyone has the right to life, liberty and
- security of person." On the front of an earlier brochure was
- printed "Against violence; against racism; against sexism." In a
- city where the neo-nazi movement is extremely powerful, the
- Berlin city government publicly supports the Guardian Angels and
- holds them up as a role model to all German youth for what the
- Germans call "Civil courage," that is for taking civil
- responsibility and for standing up and doing something about the
- violence that plagues the country. The Guardian Angels in
- Germany is in the forefront of anti-racist education for young
- German kids.
-
- I might also note in passing that the most visible support for
- the Guardian Angels in New York City comes from the Jewish
- community, and the awards to the group from citizens groups,
- police departments and mayors' offices cover the walls of the NYC
- office. Also, in Los Angeles just before Christmas 1995 the
- Guardian Angels received a special award from the LAPD, for being
- "Neighborhood Watch Group of the Year". If we were lawbreakers,
- why would we receive such honors?
-
- The Guardian Angels is an all volunteer, multi-ethnic, unarmed,
- non-political organization registered in the USA as a non-profit
- 501 (C)(3) organization, and registered in Germany as a charity
- ("verein") with humanitarian aims.
- This status is simply not given to racist, law-breaking,
- vigilante, oppressive, violent political groups.
-
- And by the way, the Angels remains a financially poor
- organization, precisely because we have never sold out to rich
- controlling interests. We are independent and will always remain
- so.
-
- In all cities where we work we have the support of the
- communities in whose areas we patrol, because without that
- support we simply do not and cannot patrol those areas. The
- whole concept of the Angels is to assist communities in taking
- their streets back from the criminals. It is all about
- empowerment, not about oppression. Certainly some people suffer
- as a result of Guardian Angels patrols - the drug dealers cannot
- deal. The crack buyers cannot buy.
- The muggers cannot attack the innocent. Sexual predators go
- home still hungry. Gangbangers find their destructive activities
- prevented. We are proud to be denying these people their
- "freedom" to destroy neighborhoods by preying upon the weaker
- members of the community. In the war against crime being fought
- on the streets there will be losers. We cannot give the
- community the right to be free from violence, crime and terror
- and also give the criminal the right to hurt, rob and terrorize
- the community. The United Nations Declaration on Human Rights
- makes it quite clear which side we must choose. The rights of
- the criminal and the rights of the victim are in many cases and
- situations mutually exclusive.
-
- "The Guardian Angels' conservative political organizing in the
- guise of simple crime fighting continues with the CyberAngels"
- says Paul Kniesel.
- Excuse me Paul but our aim is quite clear and we are not nor
- ever have been a political organization. The CyberAngels
- membership includes everyone from conservatives through liberals
- to radical leftists and anarchists. If we were a political group
- we would disintegrate immediately since there are so many
- different opinions represented in the group. We are united by a
- common goal - to fight crime on the Internet, and especially to
- fight against child pornography. Every society requires laws and
- every society has criminal predators who prey on others,
- violating their basic human rights. The Internet is no
- different.
-
- Paul writes: "Anti-Klan activists may want to know that a simple
- invitation extended over the internet for a 20-year-old to attend
- a showing of the film _Shindler's List_ falls into a category of
- behavior the CyberAngels have targeted, for it involves "try[ing]
- to arrange physical rendezvous with children."
-
- Paul this is simply nonsense. I don't even consider it worth
- answering.
-
- As for the freedom of speech issue: the US Supreme Court has
- consistently ruled that many many kinds of crimes (and
- particularly child pornography) are not protected by the US First
- Amendment protecting freedom of speech and expression. Making a
- death threat to another person is actually a crime. It is not an
- exercise in First Amendment rights. Likewise child pornography
- is not "freedom of expression". It is crime evidence. If you
- don't believe me Paul then try sending some to the FBI with your
- name on it, and see what happens to you next.
- Pedophiles have *tried* using the First Amendment in their
- defense in court and they have failed repeatedly.
-
- Of course the variable here is who defines what is the crime?
- The Courts of course. Certainly not CyberAngels. But we claim
- our constitutional rights to question what we see, and to put
- that question to relevant authorities.
- In the case of the Internet this is the ISPs.
-
- Isn't it time we all stopped perpetuating this myth that the
- Internet is a free society? It is controlled by ISPs and ISPs
- are regulated by InterNic.
- The user is bound by Terms of Service and is responsible to the
- ISP for good behavior. Irresponsible ISPs can be reported to
- InterNic which grants domain names. And who owns InterNic? (I
- have heard some interesting rumors). My point is that the
- infrastructure is already there to deal with every kind of abuse
- (which actually means we do not need new government legislation -
- we just need Net users to communicate with ISPs) The problem is
- that it is not happening. So many people complaining about
- government censorship - well it would not be happening if the
- Internet Community had taken care of itself and dealt with the
- cyberpredators. Now of course it is probably too late.
-
- Sysadmins are the nearest thing we have to cybercops on the Net.
- They have the power to enforce terms of Service and to discipline
- members who break those terms. So why don't they? Is the profit
- motive too strong? Or is it simply that the ISPs need the help
- of the Net community to report possible cybercrimes to them?
-
- Paul quotes us on anonymity: ""We are anonymous in cyberspace,"
- proclaim the CyberAngels to their potential volunteers, while
- simultaneously organizing against anonymity. For, the Angels also
- write that "when people are anonymous they are also free to be
- criminals."
-
- We are not "organizing against anonymity", and we totally believe
- in individual privacy. We believe that people have a right to
- anonymity *but they lose that right when they have committed a
- crime*. Of course we are not anonymous in cyberspace (I simply
- was pointing out that we do not announce in IRC live channels for
- example that we are cyberangels) - we all have user ids and can
- all be reported to our ISPs if we violate Internet codes.
-
- Not so some of the people who have been writing to me, sending
- me death threats, email bombs etc. They are untraceable, and
- *that* is what we object to. I was recently subscribed to over
- 400 mailing lists (someone forged my address) and ended up with
- *12000* pieces of junk mail to deal with, and it is still pouring
- in. This is a deliberate and planned attempt to destroy our
- project. Now the persons responsible are untraceable. They are
- and remain anonymous. Why should this be permitted? Paul
- doesn't really support these people's right to break ISP Terms of
- Service and to abuse my account in this way, do you Paul? Do you
- think the First Amendment gives these people the right to destroy
- my Internet account and remain anonymous? Of course the reason
- they remain anonymous is because they know their actions are
- unacceptable to the Net community.
-
- When we complained about anonymity we were talking about tracing
- users who break laws back to their ISPs. Without this ability
- criminals are untouchable. I already commented before that
- anonymous remailer sysadmins have been more responsible when
- dealing with abuses of anonymity than other ISPs. Paul, if a
- person sends you a death threat to your email address, do you not
- have the right to forward it to their ISP with a letter of
- complaint?
- Of course you do. And that is what we are campaigning for. I
- bet if Paul got mail bombed 12000 times he would like to be able
- to trace the guilty person. But ,Paul, doesn't our mail bomb
- abuser have a right to anonymity?
- Shouldn't we leave him/her/them alone on the grounds that they
- were only exercising their constitutional rights? Of course
- not.
-
- We support the Wiesenthal Centre's position that while hate
- groups have a right to speak their hatred (freedom of speech), no
- ISP should be compelled to allow access to hate-sites. It's up
- to the ISP to decide what kind of access it will offer. And on
- the same subject - full marks to Europe Online for offering a
- pornography free environment to its users. It's their choice
- what to offer and what to screen. Paul may not like it. Fine
- Paul, then don't subscribe to it. You may choose to live in a
- cyberneighborhood infested with child pornographers and other
- criminals. That's your choice.
- But I hope you are going to do something about them and not just
- expend all your energy abusing the "do-goods" as you call us.
-
- Paul has some interesting theories about pedophiles joining the
- CyberAngels in order to get their hands on child pornography.
- Paul why would they do that? They already *have* their hands on
- child pornography. Paul argues that CyberAngels have some kind
- of immunity from the law on possession and trading of child
- pornography. Do we Paul? Let me tell you we keep our hard drive
- clean from such images. And our floppy disks. We have no
- database of stored images. Anything we have received we have
- forwarded immediately to the relevant ISP and then deleted from
- our hard drive. And yes we also erase our hard drive free space
- regularly. A journalist recently asked me why we do that. I
- answered "Precisely so that journalists cannot accuse us of
- collecting images for our own use." If you had asked me Paul I
- could have told you...
-
- Paul writes: "Laws signed last month significantly increased
- penalties for possession and manufacture of "kiddie porn" when
- electronic media are involved. What happens when the CyberAngels
- themselves possess or participate in the electronic transfer of
- such material? The CyberAngels specifically request that "copies
- of all actions taken [by their volunteers] are forwarded to us."
-
- Paul, actually we do not ask people to send us graphic files of
- child pornography. In fact if they do we ask them not to. We
- ask only for the place where the picture is posted (e.g. the
- newsgroup, date and userid and name of file). There have been
- times when we have entered live channels without announcing we
- are CyberAngels, and have consequently received numerous illegal
- graphic files. These files are immediately sent to the ISPs and
- then deleted and erased.
-
- Later Paul writes: "Unfortunately, CyberAngels have a strange
- notion of what constitutes "kiddie porn," confusing the technical
- nature of graphics files with pornography itself. Angels maintain
- that the popular "gif" storage format is really a code-word for
- "girlie" pictures while the other "jpeg" format is similarly a
- disguised communication for sexual picture files of males."
-
- First of all Paul your use of the expression "kiddie porn" I find
- very offensive. *Child pornography* involves the destruction of
- young lives and I think "kiddie porn" is an expression that
- trivializes the issue. Secondly your comment about us not
- knowing what a GIF or JPEG is is nonsense. I don't know where
- you got that from, but it was certainly not from the people
- running this project. I am fully aware of graphic formats Paul
- and I am quite capable of identifying graphic files that should
- be sent to ISPs.
-
- Perhaps Paul doesn't realize that our CyberAngels are made up of
- everyone from Newbies to Sysadmins and hackers. It's a worldwide
- alliance of about 300 people, including ISP directors, software
- developers and even police officers. Paul is proposing a myth
- that CyberAngels are somehow "outside" the Net community, i.e.
- ignorant outsiders. Guess what Paul, "we" *are* the Net
- community, and remain so whether or not you agree with our work.
-
- A few words on Safesurf, presented by Paul as a source of
- "Corporate funding". Gosh Paul, we could really *do* with some
- Corporate funding actually, and so could Safesurf, since we are
- both small struggling groups run by tiny staff and without much
- in the way of resources. The entire CyberAngels project
- worldwide for example is coordinated from just one small Mac
- Powerbook 150. Not much corporate funding there eh? And we are
- doing more from that little powerbook than a lot of corporations
- with multi million dollar turnovers.
-
- And Paul, what are these "commodities" that Safesurf are selling?
- I'm not aware of any. I am aware however that they are right
- there at the cutting edge of parental education about the
- Internet. And they have been in the forefront of the development
- of screening software so that parents can gain some measure of
- control on what their child can access on the Net. And we
- supported them from the moment we read their Home Page, because
- they are good people looking after their community. Safesurf is
- clearly an organization that Paul knows little about. Paul I
- suggest you contact them and get involved in a debate, because
- your comments do not suggest to me that you know what Safesurf
- are doing. They are certainly *not* owning and transferring
- "kiddie porn" in the guise of selling Safesurf's products. That
- is an outrageous accusation and I wouldn't be surprised if
- Safesurf consulted their attorney on that groundless accusation
- with a view to legal action.
- Paul presents no evidence for this libel, nor could he find any
- if he tried. And what "Safesurf products" are these Paul that
- you claim we are promoting? Do you actually know of any? I
- don't and I work with Safesurf!
-
- Finally, our position is not to argue in cyber cafes about how
- much child pornography there is on the Net. As if we could say
- that "such and such a level is acceptable" but "such and such a
- level is not". Our point Paul is that child pornography *exists*
- on the Net and it is a great evil and we seek its elimination.
- And we seek its elimination not by government censorship but by
- Internet peer pressure, ISP disciplinary actions and FBI
- prosecution.
-
- Internet peer pressure means that users have to *do* something,
- not ignore child pornography on the Usenet on the grounds that
- it's someone else's business, but to start confronting abusers
- and criminals. ISP action means actively communicating to ISP
- sysadmins and troubleshooters and demanding that Terms of Service
- are enforced on users who are out of order. I repeat - the
- structure is there for a safer Internet, but too many are still
- operating purely for their own pleasure. The Net "Community" is
- a lot smaller than we all think. A community has to be created;
- it has bonds; and responsibilities; and people look out for one
- another; and violence and crime and hatred and abuse is not
- tolerated. I think we on the Net have a long way to go yet.
-
- And by the way, when I say "abuse" I am not referring to bad
- language. I am referring to abuses of other people's basic human
- rights. Sending death threats is an "abuse". Spamming mailing
- lists is an "abuse". Paul I am not afraid to see bad language in
- a newsgroup.
-
- Arguing for a society where everyone can just do whatever they
- like means that some people *will* trample on the rights of
- others. An internet with no law and no law enforcement will
- never become a"community".
-
- And as for your last point about how outrageous it is when
- minorities argue their case and attempt to change majorities'
- views...surely Paul, that is called democracy. And we support
- it. Is Paul arguing that minority groups should be denied a
- voice? On what grounds? That they might actually influence the
- mainstream? God what a terrible thought... that seems a little
- contradictory.
-
- The Internet reflects the rest of the world. It follows that
- therefore it will not be crime-free, and it also follows that as
- a society it requires laws and law enforcement. It's easy to
- criticise the police and the government but the fact remains that
- any society without law and law enforcement is a hell on earth.
- We are not living in the Garden of Eden any more Paul. Ask the
- growing number of victims of cybercrimes.
-
- This is the Internet - welcome to the *real* world.
-
- Colin Gabriel Hatcher
- CyberAngels Director
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 96 04:28:15 0400
- From: "Stephen A.Williamson" <stephenw@ESCAPE.COM>
- Subject: File 2--AOL Banned Poetry Dispute Heats UP
-
- This is a long post, but on an important issue -- free
- espression in cyberspace. Some of you know of the dispute, to
- others it will be a surprise.
-
- It's our purpose not only support the poets on AOL, but
- generate a deeping dialog with individuals on this issue. I
- appreciate the exchange we have had so far with so many
- editors .
-
- This dispute has been long in the making and now it is about
- to hit "the papers" or maybe not.Who knows.
- If you get message duped for some reason I want to doubly
- apologize, it's certainly not intentional.
-
- Again thanks for your time on this,
- MY Best
- Stephen Williamson
- Motley Focus Locus
- AfterNoon Magazine
- .............................................................
- .........
- Here follows an account of the AOL Banned Poetry Dispute.
-
- The dispute is escalating and intensifying, as it is about to
- go public.
-
- The first document is the Motley Focus Locus editors' letter
- explaining the
- issue to selected e-zine editors and publishers last Sunday.
- The second is
- the contact letter from the CCA member to the Motley Focus
- that started our
- involvement. We ourselves are not members of CCA.
-
- The third document is the Creative Coalition on AOL's Press
- Release for
- Tues., Jan. 15.
-
- The best place to follow the dispute and get a sense of what
- happened if
- you are hearing about if for the first time (or want the
- latest
- developments) are the
-
- "Free Expression and AOL" and "Archive of Poetry Banned by
- AOL" in the
- "Letters" section of AfterNoon Magazine:
-
- http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber/aol.html
-
- "Free Expression and AOL includes the chain of correspondence
- between Motley
- Focus and CCA and the responses of some editors we have
- contacted.
-
- The "Archive of Petry Banned by AOL" has extensive logs of
- banned poems &
- TOS letters.
-
- If you are not familiar with AOL procedures, it'll take a
- while to understand
- the jargon, but wade directly in and it eventually becomes
- clear.
-
- It is a surrealistic and curious world that AOL has created
- for its poets.
- Something can be gained of the real sense and feeling of the
- dispute by
- reading through it, rather just "hearing" that AOL is banning
- poems.
-
- The CCA seems to us to have grown to about fifty poets.
- Judging from the
- latest letters we have recieved, AOL appears determined to
- throw the ring
- leaders off their service. The CCA poets, feeling that AOL is
- where they
- have met and established a sort of cybercommunity of poets,
- are refusing
- submit to
- AOL's new rules or to leave quietly.
-
- The last piece we have included is Motley Focus Locus' letter
- to civil
- liberties attorneys and organizations we have been in contact
- with, and our
- Motley argument in support of free speech even on a private
- service such
- as AOL.
-
- This may be a tempest in a teapot, but we believe it is also
- something
- unique and interesting -- the first organized cyberspace
- rebellion against
- a huge
- provider's control of the content of speech appearing on their
- service.
- I'm sure that CCA members would appreciate any support you'd
- be willing to
- give them.
-
- Thanks for taking the time with this
- Stephen Williamson
- William Timberman
- Motley Focus Locus -- http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber
- AfterNoon Magazine -- http://www.mot
- .............................................................
- ...........
- Sun Jan 7- Mon- Jan 8
-
- Dear E-zine Editor,
- I received the following letter on Friday from a writer who
- had seen our ad
- for Motley Focus Locus and AfterNoon Magazine in "Poets and
- Writers," and
- had submitted poetry to us, which we had turned down.
-
- It's an account of an expanding attempt by AOL to tighten
- control over a poets'
- group there, and it charges that an extreme degree of
- censorship has developed
- recently -- that they've even removed a poem because it
- included the word
- "breast."
-
- We have no involvement in this writers' group and like many
- people on the
- Net, we think that trying to do a poets' group on AOL will
- inevitably lead
- to problems. I keep an address on AOL for submissions
- purposes, and as an
- E-mail backup when my service provider is down, but its "Terms
- of Service"
- make publishing there out of the question for us.
-
- Nevertheless, this writer's anguish seems deeply felt and
- AOL's response to
- it completely inadequate.
-
- We wrote a number editors last month about forming an
- Association of Electronic
- Magazines, and here, arriving on our electronic doorstep, is
- correspondence
- which shows one more reason to seriously consider doing so.
-
- This is not an issue of writing quality, but of freedom of
- expression.
- It's understandable that these writers (mostly new and less
- experienced, I
- suspect) don't want to be forced off AOL, where their group is
- visible and
- can
- attract new members freshly arriving on the Web. Here they've
- not only
- gotten support from one another, but have been able to
- accomplish something
- which we believe is important for all of us.
-
- The long and the short of it is that we hate to see a few
- large
- corporations gain control over information, and restrict the
- freedom of
- expression of new arrivals to Internet.
-
- The correspondence follows. I've edited it very slightly to
- avoid
- repetition, and in a couple of spots added in material left
- out when I
- chopped off some not-so-well-written responses while on line.
-
- If these writers can produce an example of AOL's turning down
- a poem for
- including the word "breast," or even less extreme examples,
- then I think
- they have a case which they should take public. Even if they
- don't, the
- issue of intellectual freedom remains the same. AOL has
- stopped responding
- to my
- letters -- perhaps with good reason. Maybe a few letters from
- you would get
- them to consider starting up a dialog about this again.
-
- Thanks for your consideration,
-
- Stephen Williamson
- Motley Focus Locus -- http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber
- AfterNoon Magazine --
- http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber/afternoon.html
-
-
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------
- -----------------
-
- Subj: CCA
- Date: Thu, Jan 4, 1996 6:46 PM EDT
- From: dwaink@iquest.net
- X-From: dwaink@iquest.net (Dwain Kitchel)
- To: SAWStephen@aol.com
-
- Sir;
- I saw your e-mail address in this months Poets&Writers and I
- thought I
- would contact you. My name is Dwain Kitchel and I am writting
- you about an
- AOL group of poets. If you are unaware there is a poetry
- section on AOL
- under "Writers"(go to word). I was on AOL for over a year, and
- must admit I
- came to enjoy the company of the poets there. Some are true
- writers!
- But in the last 3 months all this has changed, as the Exon
- bill has
- prodded Steve Case into a new round of censorship. Poetry has
- been pulled
- for no rhyme or reason, and posts with only one questional
- word, breast,
- have been lifted under TOS rules. Now I would agree with the
- statement that
- as members we signed up for these rules but they have been
- changing without
- notice, and posts are pulled that don't really even contain
- vulgarity.
- My point to this message is that a group of poets have
- formed a group
- called CCA(Creative Coalition on AOL) to fight the powers that
- be. Our first
- goal is the creation of a child proof place to post poetry
- without concern
- for censorship. Such a place is the ACLU section on AOL,
- secondly to get
- some statement of exactly what is a TOSable post(sans the
- quasi "list" of
- bad words that changes daily and is never posted), and thirdly
- if possible,
- to send Steve Case back to Congress with the message "Free
- speech must be
- alowed on-line!"
- Sir I recognize you may be to busy to resond to this appeal,
- or even
- unwilling to do so. And by no means do I wish to "hound" you
- about it. I
- myself have given up my AOL account in protest so please do
- not misread my
- message. What I am asking is if you have an intrest in this
- matter, please
- help us by joining free and without responsibility(class
- 4-non-active
- membership)CCA by writing to CCA Mem@aol.com , and add your
- name to the some
- hundred or so poets listed there already.
- We have tried the normal channels of writting Steve Case and
- THopeB(Writers Area manager)without result and so we are going
- to try and
- mount a campaign to get free speech returned to poets on line.
- You are
- welcome to check out some of the arguments in WWWIII folder in
- Poets Corner,
- though you had better look fast as they are being pulled
- quickly as they
- don't really represent AOL's ideals.
- For questions please contact Procter20@aol.com as Isa is our
- president, or
- her paramor Astralan(Stan Crooks). I myself would be more than
- happy to
- respond to your question but you may now only reach me on the
- Web at
- dwaink@iquest.net.
- Again I thank you kindly for your time and consideration and
- any ideals
- pro or con would be greatly needed. I will also soon be
- checking out your
- web site, though sadly I have not been there yet. Your friend
- and fellow
- poet(perhaps a stretch) Dwain Kitchel.
- .............................................................
- ...............
-
- >>Jordanne Holyoak, Media Directorend)
- >>Richard R. Becker (702) 658-6816
- >>Davids To Take On Goliath
- >>Writers, Poets And Journalists To Take on AOL
- >>
- >>Actions speak louder than words.
- >>
- >>In a letter addressing its 4 million members, Steve Case, president and CEO
- >>of America Online (AOL), wrote, "Our strong belief is that we can accomplish
- >>the important goal of protecting children from inappropriate material without
- >>compromising privacy or free speech by empowering parents with a set of
- >>easy-to-use technologies and tools that allow parents to choose the content
- >>that their children can access."
- >>
- >>At the same time, AOL released new Terms of Service (TOS) and Rules of the
- >>Road (ROR) for members to abide by or lose their accounts.
- >>
- >>"To date, I have never seen more restrictive TOS guidelines on AOL," says
- >>Holyoak, spokesperson for the Creative Coalition on AOL. "AOL's new TOS
- >>guidelines completely compromise free speech."
- >>
- >>The Creative Coalition on AOL (CCA) was founded by a little more than a dozen
- >>poets and writers that became concerned about AOL policies when several of
- >>their posted poems were removed from the boards and AOL representatives
- >>issued TOS violation warnings. Too many TOS warnings or violations in an
- >>unspecified area of time, or even one time in some cases, can cause a
- >>subscriber to be barred from AOL's service.
- >>
- >>"Our immediate reaction was to test what words AOL disagreed with," says
- >>Holyoak. "Several of us posted poems we knew would be 'TOSed,' but there were
- >>also many well-structured poems with redeeming qualities."
- >>
- >>In order to explore exactly what was permissible art on-line, one of the
- >>writers who became interested in the poets' complaint, posted a
- >>Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary definition that AOL provides in its
- >>Reference area. The posting earned the writer a TOS warning and the post was
- >>removed from the area these artists had created to explore free speech on
- >>AOL, aptly titled WWIII. Under the profane and vulgar provisions of AOL, CCA
- >>says even classic literature cannot be quoted without fear of TOS violations.
- >>And, new TOS and ROR guidelines have expanded those provisions to encompass
- >>anything that AOL, or any member of their service, does not agree with.
- >>
- >>Since the first WWIII folder was created, members of AOL have filled the
- >>folder with comments (which was only allowed 450 posts at one point) three
- >>times over. Combined, the amount of posts are roughly equivalent to 3
- >>novel-sized manuscripts. Recently, in perhaps an unprecedented move, the
- >>group decided to become organized and founded the CCA on the very server
- >>censoring them.
- >>
- >>"We tried individually writing Steve Case and other AOL representatives
- >>on-line, but largely, AOL ignored us. That's when we knew we had to become
- >>organized," explains Holyoak. "We decided to increase our membership, educate
- >>people about the importance of free speech, and try to convince AOL to
- >>provide a Free Speech area for literary pursuits. All we're really asking is
- >>to be able to speak without the fear of being silenced."
- >>
- >>CCA feels that private industries that promote themselves as a community
- >>should regard free speech with the same vigor as the Constitution. Otherwise,
- >>Holyoak says, attacks on individuals who are different will run wild over the
- >>Internet under the guise of private industry rights.
- >>
- >>"Perhaps it already is," she said, citing a recent American Civil Liberties
- >>Union (ACLU) release that reads: "It appears that AOL's arbitrary standards
- >>may be a little homophobic. While "Wet and Wild" was an unacceptable title
- >>in a gay video catalog, AOL ran an ad in Downtown AOL for Affinity
- >>Teleproductions, Inc. that read: "Now you can join exotic Anna Nicole Smith
- >>on her sensuous Edenquest adventure in her exclusive photo portfolio. . . .
- >> Anna Nicole Smith "The Collectors Set" features ten eye opening Edenquest
- >>photographs in vivid color . . . . It's all Anna Nicole Smith wet and wild
- >>drenched in sun and powder sugar sand. "With Love, Anna Nicole" is your
- >>personal trip to paradise with the world's most exciting woman in her most
- >>provocative photos ever." Other words banned by AOL (that AOL accepted
- >>payment for and allowed to run for 4 weeks of its one year contract) in a gay
- >>video ad included: "pleasure," "black," "hard," "boys," "jock," "Rican,"
- >>"sex," "stud," "straight," "young.""
- >>
- >>Holyoak also says, "AOL constantly solicits its members to participate in
- >>debates and then censors those views or words that they don't agree with.
- >>Additionally, AOL continually contradicts itself by advertising "Cybersex" to
- >>people of all ages, but then claims to have "family values" in regard to a
- >>poem about oppression."
- >>
- >>Currently, officers of CCA are appealing to other groups such as the ACLU
- >> and Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) to assist their cause, saying that
- >>CCA hopes they're as aggressive about free speech as they appear to be.
- >>Additionally, the group is studying court rulings on free speech to build
- >>what will be an undeniable case that AOL cannot ignore. The goal in this is
- >>not to bring class action against AOL, but that their research will glean
- >>some information that will open AOL's eyes or least the eyes of CCA's
- >>critics.
- >>
- >>"We're continually pressured to give up and resign our AOL accounts by some
- >>on-line members," says Holyoak. "But we feel we have a right to request
- >>customer service and refuse to 'sit at the back of the bus' because we have
- >>different views than AOL."
- >>
- >>Although CCA has yet to create a physical address (as it was formed on-line),
- >>its officers welcome supporters who do not subscribe to AOL by sending Email
- >>to "CCA MEM@aol.com." Additionally, there is no membership fee to join this
- >>organization and it does not accept monetary donations.
- >>
- >>
-
- ..........................
- Latest developments:
-
- What has happened is this:
-
- The poets have gone to other "folders" to complain of their treatment by
- AOL. Often their work has been pulled, or simply disappeared, or they have
- been TOSed for it. Folders of poems have just vanished.
-
- About this latest TOS (it's us at the Motley Focus a while to understand
- all this; it's a subculture that we're not part of.):
-
- A leader of the CCA, Stan Crooks, has complained about AOL in another
- "folder." Someone named Ronald has denounced him. He has replied in kind
- and AOL's THopeB
- has TOSed him for flaming the other person!
-
- It's clear bias. Please look at the exchange. I know it's a little hard
- to follow. AOL is not applying their own rules objectively; they are using
- them in an apparent attempt to build TOS files on individuals whom they
- want thrown off the service, the ringleaders of the AOL Poets' rebellion.
-
- Second: Take a look the number of people CCA is forwarding the info to.
- This does not include e-zine editors like AfterNoon, or those we talk to.
-
- I'd submit that this is the first cyber-space rebellion. It may seem a
- tempest in the teapot, but all the same, it really is a major event, a
- first. They have actually organized and rebelled -- it's amazing.
-
- Here's how an editor, Foster Johnson, who is most hostile to CCA, puts it in
- a letter to me:
-
- >The information provided by AOL is AOL's to do with what they please. AOL
- >is not a public access cable channel. If you believe that are attempting to
- >censor and to control information, find another information provider. Get
- >on the real Internet and publish what ever you want, by subscribing to a
- >service provider, not an on-line service. Either play by AOLs rules or avoid
- >using them, complaining will do nothing and eben if you get a thousand
- >editors to flood their customer service e-mail mailbox, AOL want give a
- >"dam*"!
-
- Most of us understand what Foster is saying here, and the legal position
- which underlies it: AOL is a private company. People sign on, and if they
- don't like the service they should go somewhere else. That's the narrow
- logic.
-
- So why didn't the members of CCA all just quit? Why did all these poets
- stay and fight? What is the logic of their position, the logic that all of
- us logical people are missing? I do think that this point is important.
- Is it really as simple as "they just all made a mistake -- they don't
- understand the way things are."? Will they really, once they're set right
- on this point, just pick up and go somewhere else?
-
- I think that there is another explanation, and that it goes back to my
- earlier argument about AOL creating a public "space." For me personally,
- AOL was like the telephone company; I made my calls there. It never
- occurred to me to visit the writers area.
-
- These individuals were invited by AOL's advertising to set up their own
- "communities of interest." They accepted the invitation, and over time,
- formed their own cyber-community. They weren't just passing through --
- they "lived" there. It became for these poets a home away from home, where
- they and their friends met and exchanged their work, argued and discussed
- things. What AOL did was to provide a series of public spaces (under their
- control), and people came and built themselves a community. But under
- political pressures, AOL took an increasingly negative interest in what
- they were saying, and began removing their work. That's what brought on
- the rebellion. I'd just ask you to look at how strong and cohesive CCA is,
- even though its members are scattered all over the country, and the
- organization has no physical address.
-
- We must listen. It was in certain folders of AOL, in a certain region of
- cyberspace, that their community formed. They don't want to move somewhere
- else; communities seldom do, except in the worst of circumstances.
-
- So they appear to some irrational, staying where they are and fighting this
- huge corporation when they can go somewhere else -- if they can learn how.
- I'm
- relatively new to net myself, unlike my partner on the Motley Focus, so I
- have some sympathy with CCA's technical reluctance to move. They are
- fighting back like a community under attack, and I believe that we should
- accept them as such; a community.
-
- It's as though a more traditional community with an established identity
- and rights had been hit by some malevolent enclosure act; that's the way
- AOL's behavior has been experienced by the individuals involved. And AOL's
- TOS'es are not derived from the needs of the community that they recruited,
- not from internal problems (flaming back and forth, for example), but from
- political pressure external to the community which has become an
- inconvenience for AOL. It's not a matter of poets or other members of AOL
- complaining to AOL that they want more rules.
-
- What strikes me is the cohesiveness of the CCA, given the amazing circumstances
- of this whole affair, and also their moderation (they seem to have tried
- every reasonable avenue and only now are going public.) And what they have
- asked for from AOL is really reasonable. AOL would probably have
- accommodated them, had it not been for the external political pressure.
-
- The Motley Focus Locus will continue to archive documentation of this
- dispute on AfterNoon Magazine as we receive it. It is getting hard for us
- to keep up with it all, but CCA will go public on Jan. 15, and they may
- then be able to attract additional support and resources to help them.
-
- The "Free Expression and AOL" exchange of letters, and the "AOL Banned
- Poems Archive" is located at http://www.motley-focus.com/~timber/aol.html
-
- To restate our argument, which we believe reflects a new appreciation of
- the legality of AOL's "Terms of Service," and a broader understanding of
- what has occurred between AOL and the CCA poets follows. Skip it if you've
- read it before.
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -------
-
- Our Argument at AfterNoon : A Possible Legal Basis for AOL Poets in their
- Dispute
-
- We think that this issue should be used to establish new legal ground.
- Although AOL is a private organization, its size and structure is such that
- they have created a "public" space -- electronic in this case, not
- physical. In a *public* place -- an airport, the public space in the
- private IBM building here in Manhattan -- you can't limit free speech.
- What we need is a new legal definition of what constitutes public and
- private space.
-
- Lawyers don't see a legal basis to a challenge at first sight because AOL
- is private. But what is happening in the society at large is an increasing
- intrusion of private space into public space -- the gated communities, the
- private guards, the malls and the rest. As a result, there is a net loss
- of the physical, psychological and electronic areas available to free
- speech, and consequently a threat to public life itself. If you sell off
- the Commons -- where free speech takes place -- then you have decreased
- effective *access* to free speech, even though the Bill of Rights still
- theoretically protects it. You can still say whatever you want -- there is
- just no place to say it where anyone else can hear you. So it is with
- created electronic space; you cannot decrease the overall "availability
- area" without a corresponding erosion of free speech.
-
- In AfterNoon's opinion, cyberspace should be considered public -- you may
- need the services of a private company to gain access to it, but the
- company's control over its contents should be limited strictly to matters
- dictated by technical necessity, and their *responsibility* for its
- contents should be limited simply to seeing that what their clients say is
- transmitted or stored or displayed. The clients should be responsible for
- paying the company for its services, and for obeying the existing laws
- regarding libel, intellectual property, obscenity, etc.
-
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