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- Computer underground Digest Tue Feb 24, 1998 Volume 10 : Issue 14
- ISSN 1004-042X
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- Editor: Jim Thomas (cudigest@sun.soci.niu.edu)
- News Editor: Gordon Meyer (gmeyer@sun.soci.niu.edu)
- Archivist: Brendan Kehoe
- Shadow Master: Stanton McCandlish
- Shadow-Archivists: Dan Carosone / Paul Southworth
- Ralph Sims / Jyrki Kuoppala
- Ian Dickinson
- Field Agent Extraordinaire: David Smith
- Cu Digest Homepage: http://www.soci.niu.edu/~cudigest
-
- CONTENTS, #10.14 (Tue, Feb 24, 1998)
-
- File 1--FTP Supp #9 (#66): Machado and Online Anti-Asian Hate Actions
- File 2--"No Gatekeepers" (comments on net "journalism")
- File 3--Hacking Cybersitter (Cu Digest, #10.12, Wed 18 Feb 98)
- File 4--Re: Cu Digest, #10.12, More on CyberSitter
- File 5--"Technology and Privacy: The New Landscape"
- File 6--Cu Digest Header Info (unchanged since 7 May, 1997)
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- CuD ADMINISTRATIVE, EDITORIAL, AND SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION APPEARS IN
- THE CONCLUDING FILE AT THE END OF EACH ISSUE.
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-
- Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:02:48 -0500
- From: Paul Kneisel <tallpaul@nyct.net>
- Subject: File 1--FTP Supp #9 (#66): Machado and Online Anti-Asian Hate Actions
-
- ___________________________________________________________________
-
- The Internet Anti-Fascist: Wednesday, 18 February 1998
- FTP Supplement #9 (#66): Machado and Online Anti-Asian Hate Actions
- ____________________________________________________________________
-
- 1) Noah Robischon, "Hate Mail," Netly News, 15 Nov 96
- 2) Jim Hill, "Hate Case Raises Internet Free Speech Issues," 8 Nov 97
- 3) CNN (no author), "Hate Continues to Surg the Net," 11 Nov 97
- 4) Reuters (no author), Hate-email Case Ends in Mistrial, 22 Nov 97
- 5) Reuters (no author), "Retrial in Internet Hate Mail Case," 2 Dec 97
- 6) Laetitia Mailhes, "Cyberspace hate crime charge goes to court
- again," Agence France-Presse, 2 Feb 98
- 7) CNN (no author), "Man convicted for sending hateful e-mail," 11 Feb
- 98
- 8) Star Tribune (no author), "Cyberthreats; California verdict makes
- sense," 18 Feb 98
-
- - - - - -
-
- 1) Hate Mail
- Noah Robischon, Netly News
- 15 Nov 96
-
- The first federal indictment for Internet-based hate crimes was filed
- yesterday against a former University of California at Irvine student.
- Richard Machado, 19, allegedly sent e-mail to 59 mostly asian students
- saying, "I personally will make it my life carreer (sic) to find and
- kill everyone of you personally. OK?????? That's how determined I am."
-
- The hate-filled message was sent on September 20 using a spoofed e-mail
- alias from a campus computer. Federal investigators would not comment
- on how they determined that Machado was the culprit. Nevertheless, the
- ten-count indictment against him is punishable by up to $1 million and
- 10 years in prison. If Machado is found guilty, the case would sharpen
- some of the fuzzy legal boundaries between virtual and physical hate
- speech. But a judgment erring too far in either direction could prove
- harmful to freedom of speech on the Net.
-
- One of the victims named in the indictment, who asked to remain
- anonymous for fear of further physical threats, told The Netly News
- that, "They seem to think it is not going to go to trial. . . I think
- he might even admit that he did it."
-
- Indeed, Machado has been "completely cooperative," according to Manuel
- Gomez, the school's Vice Chancellor for student services. None of the
- victims or investigators we talked to have found any motive for the
- incident. Although one of the recipients was Machado's former roommate,
- he appears to have randomly targetted students with asian surnames (47
- percent of the student population at U.C. Irvine is asian).
-
- But it is not entirely clear that this case meets the requirements
- necessary for a guilty verdict. Although the text was certainly "hate
- speech," the e-mail in question would have to pass the Brandenburg test
- -- meaning it would have to incite illegal activities -- according to
- ACLU litigator Ann Beeson. The Brandenburg test says that, "To justify
- suppression of speech the speech must be intended to produce imminent
- lawless action and must be likely to produce such action." The test is
- normally used in the context of a Ku Klux Klan demonstration wherein
- hate speech could cause someone to suffer direct physical harm as a
- result.
-
- "Our view that the speech is not protected stems from the fact that the
- Supreme Court has consistently ruled that threats are not protected by
- the first amendment," said Assistant U.S. Atty. Michael Gennaco. "If
- the message had been 'I hate asians' with no threat connected to it
- then we probably would not have had a case."
-
- "There's a real fine line between hate speech and actual harassment and
- intimidation," says Beeson, adding that one interpretation of the
- Brandenburg test is that stifling speech should only occur if there is
- no other way to prevent the illicit conduct.
-
- Several cases of late have raised the question of hate speech versus
- free speech on the Net, and most have implicated students. One such
- case involved a University of Michigan student named Jake Baker who
- posted a rape and torture fantasy about a fellow student to a campus
- newsgroup. That indictment was dismissed by a federal judge on the
- grounds that e-mail is protected free speech and that the government
- failed to show Baker's intent to carry out the threat, a requirement
- for conviction. It is equally difficult, if not impossible, to know
- whether Machado intended to carry out his threats. The verdict could
- hinge on the fact that Machado's messages were sent via private e-mail
- rather than being posted to a public newsgroup.
-
- Still pending is the decision in a case against Jose Saavedra, a
- 19-year-old freshman at the University of Texas at El Paso, who posted
- threats to California state Senator Tim Leslie via several
- environmental discussion lists. Saavedra's message read in part: "I
- think it would be great to see this slimeball, asshole, conservative
- moron hunted down and skinned and mounted for our viewing pleasure."
- While Saavedra was only charged with a misdemeanor, the outcome of his
- case could set a precedent that would affect all hate speech on the
- Net.
-
- The same is even more true of Machado's case in which the arraignment
- won't take place until later this year. It is difficult to defend
- Machado's actions and the best hope may be for him to plead guilty to
- avoid a judgment that could set some kind of precedent. But jail time
- seems an awfully harsh penalty for an ingnorant kid. Another student
- named in the indictment told me that if he were to run into Machado in
- a darkened alley, he'd feel obliged to smash him up. But he also said
- that, "Jail won't cure him. He should have to do community service --
- like a few thousand hours worth."
-
- - - - - -
- 2) Hate case raises Internet free speech issues
- Jim Hill
- 8 Nov 97
-
- IRVINE, California: It was a hate crime that rocked the usually placid
- campus of the University of California at Irvine.
-
- Authorities say their surveillance video captured Richard Machado
- e-mailing 60 Asian-American students:
-
- "As you can see," the alleged message began, "I hate Asians, including
- you. I will hunt all of you down and kill you. I personally will make
- it my life career to find and kill every one of you personally."
-
- As a result, Machado, a newly naturalized U.S. citizen from El
- Salvador, is being prosecuted -- a case that raises questions about how
- far free speech can be taken in cyberspace.
-
- "If you threaten somebody's life in a way that a typical listener will
- think that you're serious, that's constitutionally unprotected," said
- Professor Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law.
-
- But in court papers, Machado's attorney, who declined an interview for
- this story, argued that the federal law being used to prosecute his
- client is, in effect, criminalizing e-mail.
-
- And it's not as if the Internet wasn't already a rough-and-tumble
- marketplace for hate groups.
-
- The Aryan Nation rants online about white supremacy, while opponents
- vow death to racists. Nazi art is advertised on some sites, while on
- others, Nazism is exposed. There's even the hate page of the week.
-
- According to constitutional experts, all of this passes legal muster --
- as long as it doesn't include a direct threat of violence.
-
- "The constitution protects all sorts of opinions, really bad ones as
- well as really good ones -- communist advocacy, Nazi advocacy, bigoted,
- racist, sexist material -- all of that is constitutionally protected,"
- Volokh said.
-
- The case of Machado is one of the first tests of such issues in
- cyberspace, where millions of people with millions of opinions let
- their fingers do the talking.
-
- - - - - -
-
- 3) Hate Continues to Surf the Net
- CNN (no author)
- 11 Nov 97
-
- University of California at Irvine student Richard Machado used the
- Internet as his vehicle of vengeance.
- Surveillance camera caught him e-mailing 60 Asian-American students "As
- you can see," the alleged message began, "I hate Asians, including you.
- I will hunt all of you down and kill you. I personally will make it my
- life career to find and kill every one of you personally." CNN's Jim
- Hill reports
-
- Machado's hate mail resembles the work of other Internet hate groups.
- The Aryan Nation, Nazi art and the hate mail of the week all share the
- Internet to espouse their opinions.
-
- Machado's case, however, will be one of the first tests of the issues
- that surround free speech on the Internet
-
- "If you threaten somebody's life in a way that a typical listener will
- think that you're serious, that's constitutionally unprotected," said
- Professor Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law.
-
- Machado's attorney holds that the federal law being used to prosecute
- Machado criminalizes e-mail.
-
- But, constitutional experts uphold the laws as effective as long as the
- acts don't involve direct threats of violence.
-
- "The constitution protects all sorts of opinions, really bad ones as
- well as really good ones -- communist advocacy, Nazi advocacy, bigoted,
- racist, sexist material -- all of that is constitutionally protected,"
- Volokh said.
-
- - - - - -
-
- 4) Hate-email Case Ends In Mistrial
- Reuters (no author)
- 22 Nov 97
-
- Judge Alicemarie Stotler of the U.S. District Court in Santa Ana
- (California) on Friday declared a mistrial in the Hate-email trial of
- Richard Machado after the jury stated that it was deadlocked.
-
- Machado is accused of sending email via the Internet last year to 59
- Asian students at the University of California at Irvine, blaming them
- for the crimes on campus and threatening to hunt them down and kill
- them. Machado was charged with 10 counts of violating a federal
- hate-crimes law which criminalizes the use of race, ethnicity or
- nationality in interfering with a federally protected activity, such as
- attending school. The Machado case is the first brought under this
- legislation.
-
- Currently it is not known whether Richard Machado will be re-tried.
-
- - - - - -
-
- 5) Retrial in Internet Hate Mail Case
- Reuters (no author)
- 2 Dec 97
- Federal prosecutors will retry Richard Machado, the man accused of
- sending threatening messages on the Internet.
-
- Thom Mrozek, spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's office in Santa Ana
- (California), said prosecutors would retry Machado on 10 civil rights
- violations for allegedly sending hate e-mail to Asian students at UC
- Irvine.
-
- Machado will be held without bond until his January 27 retrial.
-
- The jury in Machado's first trial was deadlocked.
-
- - - - - -
-
- 6) Cyberspace hate crime charge goes to court again
- Laetitia Mailhes, Agence France-Presse
- 2 Feb 98
-
- SAN FRANCISCO: A student charged with harassing Asians on the Internet
- goes to trial this week a case experts say may have far-reaching
- implications for other cases of alleged cyberspace hate crimes.
-
- Former University of California student Richard Machado faces his
- second civil rights trial this week, after a jury deadlocked in
- November in favor of acquittal.
-
- Machado, 20, accused of sending hate messages to 59 Asian students by
- electronic mail, has pleaded not guilty, arguing he sent the messages
- in jest.
-
- The case against Machado suffered a setback last week when a federal
- judge threw out eight of 10 charges against him.
-
- The decision trimmed a maximum sentence for Machado from 10 to two
- years in prison. Prosecutors are considering whether to appeal.
-
- Nonetheless, judicial experts say the Machado case echoes a larger U.S.
- debate of how seriously to treat threats posted on the Internet.
-
- "On the 'Net,' there are those who take the position that somehow
- e-mail shouldn't be taken seriously," said Carey Heckman, a law
- professor at Stanford University, in California. "Yet, how do we gauge
- behavior in that virtual environment? Where should you place an e-mail
- on the spectrum of what you should reasonably be concerned about?"
-
- California prosecutor Mavis Lee is unequivocal about the importance of
- the Machado trial.
-
- "Regardless of the decision of the jury, (this trial) sends the message
- out there that hate crimes are a serious matter that ought to be
- prosecuted, including when they occur in cyberspace," Lee said in a
- telephone interview from Santa Ana, California.
-
- At issue for the jury is this: whether Machado's electronic messages
- represented a real threat, or were provocative, but without criminal
- intent.
-
- In his electronic messages to each Asian student, Machado said "I
- personally will make it my life career to find and kill everyone of
- you."
-
- The statement was merely a tasteless joke, Machado's lawyer Sylvia
- Torres-Guillen said last November, describing her client as a troubled
- youth.
-
- Nor is Machado the only hate-crime suspect -- Los Angeles prosecutors
- are at work on at least three other similar cases.
-
- Meanwhile, Machado's prosecutors are rethinking their strategy to
- ensure that November's outcome -- when nine out of 12 jurors voted for
- in favor of Machado's acquittal -- is not repeated.
-
- The youth's past has indeed been rocky. The first in his family to
- enroll in university, Machado dropped out in Spring 1996, several
- months after his brother died in a car crash.
-
- -- By LAETITIA MAILHES, Agence France-Presse
- via Nando Net <http://www.nando.net>
-
-
- - - - - -
-
- 7) Man convicted for sending hateful e-mail
- CNN (no author)
- 11 Feb 98
-
- SANTA ANA, California" For the first time ever a federal jury has
- convicted a man for sending hate mail through cyberspace.
-
- Richard Machado was convicted Tuesday of sending numerous hate mail
- messages to students of Asian descent at the University of California
- at Irvine. This was the second trial for Machado. His first trial ended
- in a deadlock last November.
-
- Machado, who dropped out of U.C.-Irvine, testified during the six-day
- trial that he resented Asian-Americans' academic success. In his
- e-mails, he said he would "find," "hunt down" and "kill" the
- Asian-American students.
-
- Although Machado testified in court that his threats had been a joke,
- U.S. attorney Nora A. Manella responded by saying that "a death threat
- is no joke, and a racially motivated death threat is a federal
- offense."
-
- Machado, a naturalized citizen from El Salvador, will be sentenced on
- Friday. He faces a maximum sentence of one year in prison and a
- $100,000 fine.
- His case has raised questions about the limits of free speech in
- cyberspace.
-
- - - - - -
-
- 8) Cyberthreats; California verdict makes sense
- Star Tribune [Minneapolis, MN] (no author)
- 18 Feb 98
-
- In trumpeting what seems the first conviction for sending hate mail by
- Internet, a federal prosecutor was saying last week that a line had
- been drawn in cyberspace, that the limits of acceptable flaming had
- been defined. Well, not quite.
-
- Richard Machado, 21, was convicted of sending unambiguous death threats
- to 59 Asian-surnamed students via the campus computer network at the
- University of California at Irvine. He admitted sending the threats but
- said he didn't expect them to be taken seriously, citing Net users'
- propensity for the acid, insulting and frequently violent-sounding
- diatribes known as "flames."
-
- The first jury to hear the case deadlocked 9-3 for acquittal. The
- second, which heard more about Machado's previous history of sending
- hateful, threatening and racist e-mail, was persuaded to convict.
-
- Because it seemed to say something significant about the general issue
- of law and lawlessness in cyberspace, this little case made headlines
- across the United States. But what, exactly, does the verdict mean?
-
- In the strictest sense, very little. Had Machado been charged under
- federal or local statutes against terroristic threats, this case might
- have established some legal precedent that brought this area of law
- into the digital age. But such trials can be hard to win, and Machado's
- prosecutors chose the easier route of charging him under a rarely used
- civil rights law - the Federally Protected Activities Act of 1968,
- which was written to prevent local officials in the South from keeping
- blacks out of public universities.
-
- Though the jury implicitly concluded that Machado had threatened the
- Asian students with violent death, it specifically convicted him of
- interfering with their civil right to attend a federally supported
- school.
-
- But in a wider sense, the jurors have indeed said something interesting
- both to those who see the Internet as a vast sphere of outlaw
- recklessness, and also to those who fear that its unique capabilities
- will be destroyed by paranoiac restraints.
-
- In rejecting Machado's defense that his act of digital terrorism was
- "just another day in cyberspace," the panel rejected the notion that
- the Internet is or should be a world apart. What's illegal to do by
- phone or mail or face-to-face, the jury said, is still a transgression
- when done by electronic message.
- This embodies an important principle. Americans have the world's
- strongest tradition of free speech, thanks to the First Amendment and
- two centuries of tinkering that have yielded only a few small, sensible
- exceptions - like serious, credible and specifically targeted threats
- of violence, or infringements on the civil rights of others. To make up
- new standards for the Internet is to discard that proud history. But
- applying the time-tested rules to new problems, as this California jury
- has done, both honors and updates the tradition.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 23:26:19 -0500
- From: Jonathan Wallace <jw@bway.net>
- Subject: File 2--"No Gatekeepers" (comments on net "journalism")
-
- NO GATEKEEPERS
-
- Jonathan Wallace jw@bway.net
-
- Our president's latest scandal was broken by Internet columnist
- Matt Drudge, who reported that Newsweek had spiked a story about
- Monica Lewinsky.
-
- Some people see that as a black eye for the print media and a
- victory for the Internet. Not First Lady Hillary Clinton, who was
- asked about the Net's role in dissemination of news at a press
- conference on February 11.
-
- "As exciting as these new developments are.... there are a number
- of serious issues without any kind of editing function or
- gate-keeping function. What does it mean to have the right to
- defend your reputation, or to respond to what someone says?
-
- "There used to be this old saying that the lie can be
- halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on.
- Well, today, the lie can be twice around the world before the
- truth gets out of bed to find its boots. I mean, it is just
- beyond imagination what can be disseminated."
-
- Clinton was asked whether she favored regulation of the Net. She
- said she didn't yet know, but commented:
-
- "Anytime an individual or an institution or an invention leaps
- so far out ahead of that balance [contemplated by the Founders]
- and throws a system, whatever it might be --political, economic,
- technological --out of balance, you've got a problem, because
- then it can lead to the oppression of people's rights, it can
- lead to the manipulation of information, it can lead to all kinds
- of bad outcomes which we have seen historically. So we're going
- to have to deal with that."
-
- These are among the most scary words ever said about Net
- regulation. Contrast them to the rhetoric we're used to, about
- the Net as a hydra-headed pornmonger reaching into your child's
- bedroom. Censorship advocates like former Senator Exon at least
- have the decency to pretend that all they care about is
- "decency." Mrs. Clinton goes a huge step further: she's worried
- about information. Not just falsehood. Information. Obviously,
- for her the right result was Newsweek's decision to spike the
- story, not Drudge's to run it.
-
- We're already far enough along in the Lewinsky scandal to know
- something happened. The President and Mrs. Clinton have endured a
- lot of falsehood on the Net. I don't remember either of them
- calling for Net regulation because of Usenet postings or Web
- pages claiming that the military shot down flight 800, or that
- Ron Brown or Vincent Foster were assassinated. It took the truth,
- not a lie, to make Hillary Clinton say the Net is dangerous.
-
- This recalls the early days of the republic, when laws banning
- "seditious libel" were in force. Back then, there were greater
- penalties for telling the truth than for lying. People might
- disbelieve a lie. The truth was more damaging.
-
- Preserve us from gatekeepers. Their function is highly
- overrated. Yes, they filter out some falsehoods, but they also
- print some, while blocking some truths. Their sense of what
- interests the public is notoriously faulty and unrepresentative.
- Most of the time, if I really want to drill down into an issue
- and get to to the truth, I get my information from the Net.
-
- I didn't see Hillary Clinton's comments above reported in the
- print media; I got them from a posting by Declan McCullagh to his
- fight-censorship list. For three years, I've written whatever I
- wanted, whenever I felt like, in The Ethical Spectacle and to my
- mailing lists. A gatekeeper of any kind would have spiked many of
- of the stories I wrote. An editor might have made some little
- contribution to my grammar or, on occasion, my spelling. In the
- balance, I've done much better without gatekeepers than I have
- with them.
-
- Contrast the experience I've had writing for others. In the past
- three years, I've had articles killed by print media, or edited
- beyond recognition. Language I never wrote expressing ideas that
- aren't mine has been introduced. I even saw scores of
- typographical errors crop up in the hardcover of Sex, Laws and
- Cyberspace during the editing process. More people read The
- Ethical Spectacle in a month than have read that book in the two
- years it has been out.
-
- People like Hillary Clinton want gatekeepers for the Net not to
- screen for falsehood but to keep the truth within acceptable
- parameters. Government censorship isn't necessary when the media
- censors itself. Mrs. Clinton appears to hold the "Don't make me
- come over there" theory of government.
-
- Judge Stewart Dalzell, in his opinion in ACLU v. Reno
- invalidating the Communications Decency Act, had a much higher
- opinion of a medium without gatekeepers.
- Judge Dalzell appreciated the Net's "low barriers to entry",
- "astoundingly diverse content" and "relative parity among
- speakers." His fascinating conclusion was that the Net is
- superior to print media as a "speech-enhancing medium" precisely
- because of the lack of gatekeepers:
-
- "It is no exaggeration to conclude that the Internet has
- achieved, and continues to achieve, the most participatory
- marketplace of mass speech that this country -- and indeed the
- world -- has yet seen.... Indeed, the Government's asserted
- 'failure' of the Internet rests on the implicit premise that too
- much speech occurs in that medium, and that speech there is too
- available to the participants."
-
- He noted that, if the government were permitted to impose
- gatekeepers on the Net, the "Internet would ultimately come to
- mirror broadcasting and print, with messages tailored to a
- mainstream society" where "economic power has become relatively
- coterminous with influence."
-
- Judge Dalzell praised "the autonomy" that the Net "confers to
- ordinary people as well as media magnates." This autonomy is
- precisely what frightens Hillary Clinton.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 07:37:34 -0500
- From: "Robert J. Woodhead (AnimEigo)" <trebor@ANIMEIGO.COM>
- Subject: File 3--Hacking Cybersitter (Cu Digest, #10.12, Wed 18 Feb 98)
-
- >Date--Tue, 17 Feb 98 15:04 EST
- >From-- Michael Gersten <michael@STB.INFO.COM>
- >Subject--File 5--Re--Cu Digest, #10.11, More on CyberSitter
- >
- >Programs like cybersitter, however, do not work that way. You cannot
- >tell ahead of time what they will block; often there is no way to
- >tell that your site is blocked. Although they claim to do it to
- >protect children from "unsuitable" material, that definition is
- >arbitrary, and often includes web pages that oppose such software,
- >or in some cases, any page hosted on the same site as one "unsuitable"
- >page.
-
- I've never played with cybersitter or similar programs, but it should be
- relatively trivial to write a program that emulates a browser and sends,
- say, every URL on Yahoo (it is trivial to write a spider to collect these)
- through the censorware, to determine what they are blocking.
-
- Similarly, it would be trivial to build a site that returns pages with
- subsets of every word in a large dictionary, so one could binary-chop and
- determine what words are red-flagged.
-
- The beauty of such a hack, of course, would be that one would not be
- cracking their encryption or hacking their program, but merely asking it to
- do what it was designed to do, and noting the responses.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 23:07:31 -0500
- From: Allen Smith <easmith@beatrice.rutgers.edu>
- Subject: File 4--Re: Cu Digest, #10.12, More on CyberSitter
-
- Regarding the various censorware programs... everyone seems to be
- making the assumption that parents _do_ have the right to censor
- what their children see. But is this truly the case, in ethics if
- not in law?
-
- We do not allow parents to keep their children from getting an
- education. We do not allow this even though that education can lead
- to those children learning things that will cause them to disagree
- with their parents. We do not allow this even though that education
- can lead to those children learning things that will shock them -
- such as about war. With CyberPatrol (the censorware backed by the
- Guardian Angels's cyberspace branch) blocking Deja News, and
- responses by various educators and others that this blocks a
- necessary educational resource, isn't using CyberPatrol blocking
- children from getting a proper education?
-
- We do not allow parents to do other things that harm their children,
- unless the parents can find evidence for that these things prevent
- further harm. (Spanking for no reason is child abuse; spanking after
- a child ran through a house carrying a knife is concern for that
- child's safety, even if some might express it differently.)
-
- There _is_ evidence that cutting children off from many of the
- things blocked by censorware can indeed harm children. The obvious
- examples are safe sex sites and sites for gay teens (who have a very
- high suicide rate).
-
- To be more general, one of the foundations of freedom of speech and
- freedom of the press is that the truth - which is what we want
- children to know, ultimately - comes out of being able to access all
- sides of various issues. If it harms adults to not be able to know
- all sides of an issue, how much more does it harm children, who are
- in the middle of making some of the most important decisions of
- their lives? (If you claim that children will be susceptible to
- making the wrong decision due to lack of information if they're
- exposed to alternate viewpoints, do you have evidence (in such
- things as blocking non-Christian sites, or NOW, for instance) that
- the decision to be blocked is indeed the wrong one? Moreover, why
- would 'wrong' viewpoints be more able to persuade children to
- believe in them than 'right' viewpoints? Why can't the 'right'
- viewpoints put themselves persuasively enough, if they are indeed
- backed by the truth?)
-
- The defenders of censoring what information children can view - the
- backers of such doctrines as "obscene for minors," which are being
- used as excuses for censoring the entire Internet - claim that this
- is justified by harm to children resulting from viewing various
- controversial information. But is there any evidence for such harm?
- Yes, viewing sexually explicit information may lead to a child
- becoming more interested in such topics (although from remembering
- my teenage years, I have my doubts as to whether that interest can
- be increased...). But that isn't doing _provable_ harm to that child
- unless it results in an STD or an unplanned pregnancy, both of which
- can be prevented through adequate safe sex information (and the
- availability of condoms). Even the Meese Commission couldn't find
- any real evidence that pornography caused harm to anyone. While some
- moral viewpoints would argue that such is harmful, we do not go by
- such unproven harm in other cases - to take an extreme example,
- supposed demon possession is not grounds for justification of child
- abuse.
-
- I am not saying that sexual _activity_ by a child is not harmful in
- some situations; I do not support NAMBLA. (I would, however, comment
- that even such harm as that varies - I've known 12-year-olds and 16-
- year-olds who had equal maturity levels, and having sex with the
- latter would not be statutory rape most places. Moreover, we've
- recently seen a case (the Bobbit one, IIRC) in which a man was
- jailed for statutory rape of a teenage girl who was judged competent
- to stand trial _as an adult_ for murder.) But despite tabloid tales
- of pregnancies from the Internet, there is a difference between
- speech and action. It is a difference that much of our freedom of
- speech is based upon.
-
- The same is true of other controversial topics, such as ones
- regarding violence. While there is some evidence (and much evidence
- against it) that viewing violence results in increased aggression,
- whether this is a problem depends on in what situations and against
- whom that aggression emerges. (Again, certain ethical viewpoints -
- namely those such as the Society of Friends (Quakers) and other
- pacifists - would argue that any aggression is wrong. Despite such
- viewpoints, self-defense is legal, although some states and
- countries (unfortunately) severely limit the means of such.)
- Moreover, as I reminded us above, children learn about war in
- school; an education which skipped it would not qualify as a real
- education.
-
- Yes, as a previous poster said, a 10-year-old searching for
- information under "American Girl" may see things that will remain
- with that child for the rest of his or her life. But there is no
- evidence that this harms the child; there are a _lot_ of things that
- remain with people throughout their lives. Parents have the
- opportunity to do a lot of things that have this characteristic;
- should they be able to shut children off from others doing the same,
- if no harm is done to the child?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:46:33 -0800
- From: "Rob Slade, doting grandpa of Ryan and Trevor" <Rob.Slade@sprint.ca>
- Subject: File 5--"Technology and Privacy: The New Landscape"
-
- BKTCHPRV.RVW 971012
-
- "Technology and Privacy: The New Landscape", Philip E. Agre/Marc
- Rotenberg, 1997, 0-262-01162-X,U$25.00
- %E Philip E. Agre pagre@ucsd.edu
- %E Marc Rotenberg rotenberg@epic.org
- %C 55 Hayward Street, Cambridge, MA 02142-1399
- %D 1997
- %G 0-262-01162-X
- %I MIT Press
- %O U$25.00 800-356-0343 fax: 617-625-6660 curtin@mit.edu
- %O www-mitpress.mit.edu
- %P 325
- %T "Technology and Privacy: The New Landscape"
-
- Agre, perhaps most widely known for the Red Rock Eater news service,
- and Rotenberg, Director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center,
- go to some lengths to define what this book is not. It is not a
- fundamental analysis of privacy. It is not an investigative work. It
- does not address specific areas of concern. It is not a systematic
- comparison. It does not cover the broadest interpretation of
- technology. It does not provide a general theory of privacy, nor
- detailed policy proposals. It is an overview of policy and thought
- regarding the impact of information and communications technologies on
- privacy over the last two decades.
-
- Working in the field of data security I am quite used to dealing with
- subjects that have barely brushed the public consciousness. Privacy
- is one such area, as evidenced by the lack of agreement even on such a
- basic issue as a definition of privacy. I must admit, however, that
- the essays in this volume surprised me with the extent of the work in
- privacy policy and regulations that have gone on in ... well, private,
- without making much impact in either the media or public discussion as
- a whole. Although academic in tone, the content of the papers is
- compelling enough to hold the interest of almost any audience. The
- text is informed, and while the quality of writing may vary it is
- always clear and matter of fact. Topics covered include the
- representational nature of data-oriented computing (and the trend
- towards "virtual worlds"), privacy design considerations in multimedia
- computing, privacy policy harmonization on an international scale,
- privacy enhancing technologies, social pressures on privacy, privacy
- law and developing policy, cryptography, and design considerations for
- large scale projects.
-
- (In any anthology the tone and value of individual pieces varies. In
- this current work the level of consistency and quality is high. The
- one startling and disappointing exception is the essay by David
- Flaherty, Information and Privacy Commssioner for British Columbia.
- It might possibly be intended as an examination of a "real life"
- example of such an office. In its current state, however, it reads
- more like a long and unconvincing advertisement for a book by one
- David Flaherty, and the working tribulations of one David Flaherty.
- The whining tone and constant criticism of everyone else involved in
- his work makes it particularly unattractive. This paper is also least
- focussed on the topic, dealing with technology only in a minor way.)
-
- For all the general discussion about technology and privacy, it is
- obvious that few people are informed as to the realities of the topic.
- This book is recommended as a readable, informative, and important
- contribution to the literature.
-
- copyright Robert M. Slade, 1997 BKTCHPRV.RVW 971012
-
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