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- issue 48
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- A continuation of ATI47..
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- -----------------------------------> the roving eavesdropper ------------>
-
-
- As stated in the past, The Roving Eavesdropper is an occasional column we
- present to you here at ATI to describe reality, or, other unusual aspects
- of existence that you might not normally encounter. In this column, we bring
- you a ragging session from a Commodore 64 "warez" BBS. Enjoy!
-
-
- BAT LOSERS
-
-
- Post the Names of the BIGGEST
- Losers you know..
-
-
- Bat Losers
-
-
- > #62 - bat losers
- Who: OZZY (#19)
- Day: THURS., 1/11 3:53 pm
- Why: The Groover
-
- This dudes an Asshole he thinks
- he can come on a board and pass judgement like he7s God or somethin'!!!!!!
- later
- the ozz
-
-
-
- > #65 - bat losers
- Who: THE GROOVER (#57)
- Day: FRI., 1/12 10:11 pm
- Why: Ozzy
-
- PASS JUDGEMENT ON WHAT?
- I said I like T-Rex. Big fuckin' deal. What, you had a homosexual
- experience with Marc Bolan or something? And nice handle. I wish
- I'd thought to name myself after a strung out old loser metal garbage man
- like Ozzy Osbourne.
- Somebody please, take out the trash.
- (Why don't we all just listen to the beatles like back in '68?)
-
-
-
- > #66 - bat losers
- Who: THE MAD MIDGET (#1)
- Day: SAT., 1/13 6:28 pm
- Why: back in 68?
-
- you were still in yer fathers nutsack back in 68...
-
-
-
- > #67 - bat losers
- Who: SUG! (#28)
- Day: SAT., 1/13 7:48 pm
- Why:
-
- i see a fight coming!
-
- another one will bite the dust.
- sug!
-
-
-
- > #68 - bat losers
- Who: OZZY (#19)
- Day: SUN., 1/14 12:35 am
- Why: GRovER
-
- Are you nuts!!!!!!!
- I wish you were back in 68 so you can take some brown acid and die on a
- bad trip!!!!!
- T.Rex HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- you have the balls to say such a thing!!!!!!!!!
- Tribute a double live $14.00 album went platnum in 8 days!!!
- T.Rex ever go platnum......didn't think so!!!!!!!!!
- Go Fuck a hole in the Wall!!!
-
-
-
- > #69 - bat losers
- Who: THE GROOVER (#57)
- Day: SUN., 1/14 2:13 pm
- Why: (grin)
-
- Ever hear of 'Electric Warrior'? Platinum about 9x over, dick.
-
- tG
-
-
-
- > #70 - bat losers
- Who: OZZY (#19)
- Day: SUN., 1/14 4:57 pm
- Why: (laughing)
-
- over a ten year period world wide!
- you fuckin peace of dog shit that someone stepped in.
-
-
-
- > #71 - bat losers
- Who: THE CREEP (#3)
- Day: WED., 1/17 6:44 pm
- Why: not to mention
-
- scraped off! Ill tell you why we all dont go an listen to the beatles
- in 68' groovie, its because were in 1990!! you shit faced limp dick!
-
-
- Creep
-
-
-
- > #72 - bat losers
- Who: THE GROOVER (#57)
- Day: THURS., 1/18 2:12 pm
- Why: HAHAHAHA
-
- okay...
-
- Pump up the jam pump it up while...
-
- is this better, ya fug'n bunch of guido/metalhead/fuckin' geeks!
- What're ya gonna do now, ask mommy for a 2400 baud modem so you can
- shut me out? I SHALL NOT GO QUIETLY
-
- Fuck you all (my buffer sez hi)
-
- THEMUTHERFUKKINGROOVER
-
-
-
- > #73 - bat losers
- Who: THE CREEP (#3)
- Day: THURS., 1/18 3:11 pm
- Why: hahaha
-
- ooh boy groovie you really got a way with words dontcha, your probably
- one a those fuckin bushy haired pot heads who listens to freedom rock
- all the damn day.... right MAN? bahahaha what a loser! take your
- dad's balls outta your ass and see the light shithead.
-
-
-
- > #74 - bat losers
- Who: THE MAD MIDGET (#1)
- Day: THURS., 1/18 6:36 pm
- Why: he signed his handle
-
- the mother fucking groover?
- please dont bring yer house activities to this bbs .. good for you that
- you punmp yer mother.. please just dont let us normal people know about
- yer sexual activities with yer mother. PUMP UP THE JAM? more like
- PUMP UP MOM! pump her up YOH PUMP HER! isnt that what you and yer brother
- sing when yer alone with yer hairy mom?
-
-
-
- > #75 - bat losers
- Who: OZZY (#19)
- Day: THURS., 1/18 10:51 pm
- Why: GROOVER
-
- now you shouldn't make fun of Groover because when he was 11 he walked
- into his parents room while they had sex and he decided to start to
- pull his pudd he like it SOOOOO MUCH that he began to Pull His DAD'S!!!
-
- (groover loves slippin old grandma the tounge when she kisses him)
-
-
-
- > #76 - bat losers
- Who: XYNAMAX (#35)
- Day: SUN., 1/28 12:53 pm
- Why: Batlooser
-
- Ya want a bat loser?
-
- GROOVER!
-
-
- ><ynama><
-
-
-
-
-
- (Taken from The Batcave BBS... 201-779-3924)
-
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- +-
-
- Now, for some miscellaneous stuff from The Mentor's old BBS, The Phoenix
- Project...I hope you enjoy this blast from the past!
-
-
- Taken from The National Enquirer, June 11, 1985 edition, p.28
-
- 'BEWARE- Computer Crooks Can Phone Long Distance - At Your Expense'
-
- Watch out! Crooks are using computers to steal long-distance phone service
- code numbers- and if you use a long-distance service, check your phone bills
- carefully.
- "It's absolutely frightening," declared John Maxfield, an expert who works
- for private industry tracking down computerized thieves.
- There are millions of Americans who subscribe to long-distance phone
- services- such as Sprint, MCI, Teltec for Transcall America.
- Subscribers are given a personal code number, which they dial to gain
- access to the computer that makes the long-distance calls.
- An ENQUIRER investigation has turned up some shocking examples of what can
- happen when a crook discovers your long-distance code number:
- o A New York woman was stunned to open her phone bill and find it
- totalled $175,000. Her access number had been traded among several thieves.
- o Prisoners at Atlanta's Fulton County Jail bought someone's Transcall
- America number- and ran up a whopping bill of more than $12,000 before they
- were discovered.
- o A Florida woman received a $175 phone bill listing dozens of long-
- distance calls- and after protesting, she learned that her Teltec number
- had been stolen and sold to a jail inmate.
- Many thieves discover valid long-distance codes by programming their
- computers to find sets of numbers that work, explained Donn Parker, an
- expert on computerized crooks who works for a California research and
- consulting firm.
- "A kid can turn on his computer before he goes to school in the morning
- and run it all day long.
- "He comes home- and there on the printer is a list of valid numbers that
- the computer has turned out."
- Incredibly, it's practically impossible to stop these thieves, the
- experts agree- and about the only way you can protect yourself is to go
- over your phone bills with a fine-tooth comb.
- "The customer should report any suspicions they have," said Joe Rudd,
- former security chief for Transcall America.
- "Otherwise you may end up holding the bag on a big phone bill, because in
- many states, a telephone company is not responsible after 30 days.
- "If we establish that a code has been stolen and calls made by a crook,
- we'll give the customer credit."
- -David Wright
-
- Discussion Questions:
- 1) Has anyone ever heard of Transcall America? Or how about Teltec?
- 2) Why does the Enquirer rely on the words "Expert","crook" and "thieves"
- so much?
- 3) Since when do inmates use access codes?
- 4) Have you ever "Turned on your computer in the morning" and run it all
- day long?
- 5) Why do they ask the FORMER security chief of Transcall America? (I'll
- answer that one, nobody else wanted to talk to them!)
- 6) How the fuck could anybody ever run up $175,000 phone bill in a 30 day
- billing period?
- 7) Do you 'program' your computer to find 'sets' of numbers? I personally
- just type "BRUN CAT HACKER 3.71"
-
- Recommendations:
- 1) Hack Transcall America and Teltec. Since nobody has ever heard of them,
- they will be poor and they can't afford a tracing system.
- 2) Assume that all ENQUIRER sources are a little 4'2" old lady in the
- corner
- of their office building.
- 3) Enquirer investigations are trash.
- 4) the Enquirer is trash.
- 5) They should be sued for telling the entire reading population how to
- hack numbers.
-
- Please Distribute.
- >>Racal Vadic<<
-
- .............................................................................
-
-
- 89/100: virus writers
- Name: Gordon Meyer #57
- Date: 4:48 pm Sun Nov 06, 1988
-
- Watching CNN on Friday I noticed that they somehow decieded this national
- UNIX virus was the work of the hackers (shudder,gasp). Wonder if they gave
- a
- second thought to pointing fingers after they found out it was some "bored
- grad student" that released it?
- -=->G<-=-
-
-
-
-
- 90/100: The media
- Name: Lord North #197
- Date: 1:11 pm Mon Nov 07, 1988
-
- don't ever make any distinction.
-
-
-
- 91/100: ...
- Name: Epsilon #12
- Date: 2:40 pm Mon Nov 07, 1988
-
- Whenever the slightest little thing happens involving computer security,
- or the breach thereof, the media goes fucking bat shit and points all their
- fingers at us 'nasty hackers'.
- They're so damned ignorant it's sick. And that radio show. That guy was a
- fucking moronic fool. How dare he make stereotypes of hackers, and say
- we're all a bunch of geeks who lack physical and social exposure because
- we're always in our rooms. Fine, if he wants to play with stereotypes, we
- can just say that he's a bored, middle-aged, undersexed pervert who
- watches porno flicks while his fat wife is asleep, and takes out his
- sexual aggression on children. It's so amazing. And they wonder why
- certain individuals resort to pulling their credit and harassing the shit
- out of them. They deserve it.
-
- Epsilon
-
-
-
-
- 92/100: Notice...
- Name: The Prophet #91
- Date: 12:04 pm Tue Nov 08, 1988
-
- How sympathetic the media was with the culprit after it was discovered that
- he was a bored Cornell grad and the son of a respected scientist.
-
- -TP
- LOD/H
-
-
-
-
- 93/100: Hackers Ethichs
- Name: Red Knight #48
- Date: 3:58 pm Tue Nov 08, 1988
-
- Two days ago I was on CIS. There while in one of the band.I saw this alias
- Mr. Hacker(USA)...I couldn't resist but to ask him "Why the handle like
- that" And basically we started talking about all and how it start.Then we
- proceeded on to boards.He told me that he was a part of sherwood forest 2,3.
- But refused to tell me his real handle. Anyway some jerk out of nowhere
- while we were talking about systems intereptedus and started giving us the
- third degree.I tried to as much as I could to tell him that Hackers were
- actaully not bad people but are only trying to educate themselves.He was
- not even ready to listen our side of the story, but said that Hackers were
- just a bunch of nonsense people trying to reck systems etc.This really got
- me PISSED off.And soon I was getting in the mood for the offensive side.
- But later on as the conversation proceed (Negatively) three other people
- got into it.They were completly opposed to us.I could feel it that we were
- out numbered but we still stood but their ignorance never allowed them to
- understand what we were trying to say. So we just decided to bag it and let
- the jerks say what they want and decided to go (/TALK). Mr. Hacker(USA)
- turned out be quite knowledgeable and new alot about Computer Security
- and also inside out about DMS100. Never knew who this person was.Anybody
- have a clue?
-
- Anyway what I am also trying to say is that SAVANT hackers who go around
- destroying systems they Hack is totaly pathetic and has given a bad
- name to the so called "Educational Hackers"..and basically there no way to
- stop these pigs.
-
-
- One very pissed
- Red Knight
- P/HUN
- TSAN
-
-
-
-
- 94/100: media
- Name: Professor Falken #16
- Date: 4:48 pm Tue Nov 08, 1988
-
- As stated in the above posts whenever the media happens upon anything that
- invloves malicious computer use its the "HACKERS". The word is a catch
- phrase it makes mom drop the dishes and watch the TV. They use the word
- becuase not only they don't really know the meaning but they have lack of
- a word to describe the perpatrator. Thats why hacker has such a bad name,
- its always associated with evil things and such. Well I thik I agree with
- Arcane Heirophant it is a nice evil word
- to describe ourselves.
-
- - Falken
-
-
-
-
- 95/100: Hackers and media
- Name: The Mci Sprinter #105
- Date: 5:11 pm Tue Nov 08, 1988
-
- I never seen a phreaker called a phreaker when caught and he's printed
- in the newspaper. You always see them "Hacker caught in telephone fraud".
- "Hacker defrauds old man with phone calling card".. What someone should do
- is tell the fucken media to get it straight.
-
- -TMS
-
-
-
-
- 96/100: They don't want to get it
- Name: Lord North #197
- Date: 1:17 pm Wed Nov 09, 1988
-
- straight, they want catch-phrases to maintain interest and sell copy.
-
-
-
-
- 97/100: names
- Name: Mr. Icom #205
- Date: 9:14 pm Wed Nov 09, 1988
-
- Certain security publications use the term "Computer Phreak" to indicate a
- person who "penetrates" computer systems. Their reasoning is that
- Hacker means a knowledgible computer user, and doesn't imply illegal usage,
- while a phreak is someone who illegaly uses the phone system. (sic).
- Personally I think it's a bunch of bullshit, and why not use the term
- "hacker", it does have a nice sinister ring to it.
-
-
-
-
- 98/100: HUMPH!
- Name: Doc Cypher #155
- Date: 9:33 pm Wed Nov 09, 1988
-
-
- I dont think you seem to notice half of the misconceptions being taken
- out on the 'Electronic Underground'.. I read in a paper last year about a
- man who sold children and made a diary about the sexual encounters he had
- with the children and put it on disk... Got busted, and the headline,
- NO SHIT, was : 'Child Pervert Hacker Arrested in Florida case'...
-
- If people would try to clear up the misconceptions with some of these
- officials, possibly our name wouldn't get thrown around so much...
-
- Doctor Cypher
- be - ell - co -ree
-
-
-
-
- 99/100: The Child Pervert Hacker
- Name: The Prophet #91
- Date: 9:17 am Thu Nov 10, 1988
-
- That enormous misconception was used by one particularly ambitious
- politician as a vote-grabber a few years back. He wanted to place BBS's
- under _very_strict_ federal control to prevent pedophiles from keeping
- on-line databases of easy victims. Ridiculous, but many people bought that
- bullshit. By the way, good old John Maxfield of Boardscan, Inc., was once
- arrested (and convicted!) of child molestion.
-
- -TP
-
-
-
-
- 100/100: wheee...
- Name: The Mentor #1
- Date: 9:07 pm Thu Nov 10, 1988
-
- Well, this is a first... in addition to scads of security personel, we now
- have someone's Mom on... Actually, that worries me more than anything...
- all I need is for some parent to freak out and begin a massive campaign to
- get me in trouble.
- Anyway, I gave her access. We'll see how it goes. I'm holding my breath...
- let's hope her offspring has enough sense not to try and make TNT in the
- kitchen or any of the other boneheaded things that some of the early Phracks
- recommended doing...
-
- The Mentor
-