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- Network Working Group 17 March 1972
- Request For Comments # 309 Abhay Bhushan
- NIC # 9260 MIT-MAC
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- DATA AND FILE TRANSFER WORKSHOP ANNOUNCEMENT
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- MIT will host a workshop on Data and File Transfer, Friday,
- April 14 and Saturday, April 15, 1972. People have expressed an
- interest in revising the existing ARPANET Data and File Transfer
- Protocols (RFC # 264 and RFC # 265), to make them more suitable
- to fulfill the now better understood ARPANET requirements.
-
- The objective of this workshop is to arrive at a unified
- convention for ARPANET data and file transfer. It is important
- that we adequately consider the needs of TIP users, DATACOMPUTER
- users, remote job entry users, and the major ARPANET service
- systems.
-
- In addition to the current members of the data and file
- transfer protocol committee, I have invited a number of
- interested parties to talk and participate in this workshop. On
- the first day's agenda is a list of speakers who have agreed to
- discuss their respective interests in data and file transfer. If
- your interests have not been represented and you would like to
- give a presentation or discuss a specific area, please contact me
- (617-864-6900 Ext. 1428).
-
- Participants are encouraged to have written position papers
- ready at the time of this meeting. If possible, these papers
- should be distributed as NWG/RFCs or informal notes to workshop
- invitees, prior to the workshop.
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- As this meeting is intended to be an intensive workshop,
- with the second half devoted to a detailed specification of
- protocol, it will be necessary to limit attendance. The
- attendance to this meeting is by invitation only. A list of
- invitees is attached. If you have not been invited, and would
- like to attend the workshop, please contact me.
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- Hotel reservations may be made at Random House, operated by
- MIT's Real Estate office ($5.00 to $7.00/night), by contacting
- either me or Sue Pitkin (617-864-6900 Ext. 1450) before March
- 31st. If you would prefer other hotel accomodations instead, a
- convenient hotel is the Fenway motor Hotel (Tel. 617-492-4777).
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- Please contact either me or Sue Pitkin if you intend to come.
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- [Page 1]
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- NWG/RFC # 309 Abhay Bhushan
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- AGENDA
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- FRIDAY April 14th, 1972
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- 8th Floor Conference Room, MIT Project MAC,
- 545 Technology Square, Cambridge, Mass.
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- Morning Session -- 9:00 a.m.
- ----------------------------
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- LIST OF SPEAKERS
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- Steve Crocker -- ARPA
- Keynote Address and General Discussion
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- Richard Winter -- CCA
- The DATACOMPUTER and ARPANET Protocols
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- William Crowther -- BBN-NET
- Data and File Transfer to Terminal IMPs
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- Robert T. Braden -- UCLA-CCN
- Remote Job Service on ARPANET -- A Server Viewpoint
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- John Heafner -- RAND
- Remote Job Service on ARPANET -- A User Viewpoint
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- (LUNCH)
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- Afternoon Session -- 1:30 p.m.
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- Ray Tomlinson -- BBN-TENEX
- The TENEX View and Experience With "CPYNET"
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- Abhay Bhushan -- MIT-MAC
- Current Data and File Transfer Strategies and
- Some Measurement Results.
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- NWG/RFC # 309 Abhay Bhushan
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- GROUP DISCUSSION OF DATA TRANSFER PROTOCOL
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- Discuss revision and specific changes to the existing data
- transfer protocol (RFC 264). See tentative discussion items for
- DTP on page 4. You are expected to have read RFC 264 and be
- familiar with it.
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- GROUP DISCUSSION OF FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOL
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- Discuss revision and specific changes to the existing file
- transfer protocol (RFC 265). See tentative list of discussion
- items on page 4. You are expected to have read RFC 265 and be
- familiar with it.
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- AGENDA (Cont.)
- --------------
-
- SATURDAY April 15, 1972
- ------------------------
-
- 8th Floor Conference Room, MIT Project MAC,
- 545 Technology Square, Cambridge, Mass.
-
- Morning Session -- 9:00 a.m.
- ----------------------------
-
- WORKING SESSION ON DATA AND FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOLS
-
- Objective is to come up with revised specifications for data
- and file transfer protocols that fulfill current (existing and
- anticipated) ARPANET needs. A unified approach is a desirable
- goal to strive for.
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- Continuation of Friday's discussion of data and file
- transfer protocols, incorporating specific ideas and changes in
- the existing protocols.
-
- Possible formation of a sub-committee whose task is to write
- the revised specificaitons for DTP and FTP.
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- Afternoon Session -- 1:30 p.m.
- ------------------------------
-
- (TO BE DECIDED)
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- NWG/RFC # 309 Abhay Bhushan
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- Tentative List of Items for Discussion
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- Data Transfer Protocol (DTP)
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- - DTP vs TELNET. Concept of extended TELNET, or
- allowing use of ASCII in DTP.
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- - Error Control and recovery in DTP (use of
- error checks, restart, etc.)
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- - Modes available -- handshake, only one mode, or use
- of default.
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- - Information separator, Aborts, and the Use
- of Close (NCP-CLS) to Separate Information.
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- - Use of DTP with TIPs
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- - Use of DTP with DATACOMPUTER
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- File Transfer Protocol (FTP)
- ----------------------------
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- - Use of ICP, inter-mixing data and control,
- transferring files to third connections
- (possibly to different sites)
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- - The command language ASCII or codes
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- - Handling of data types and physical storage.
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- - Handling of descriptors and logical structure
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- - Error control and error recovery
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- - Use of FTP with TIPs
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- - Use of FTP with DATACOMPUTER
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- - Uniform Pathnames and the ARPANET virtual file system.
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- NWG/RFC # 309 Abhay Bhushan
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- List of Invitees
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- R. T. Braden -- UCLA-CCN , A. Chan -- MIT-DMCG , S. D. Crocker --
- ARPA , W. Crowther -- BBN-TIP , E. Harslem -- Rand , J. Heafner
- -- Rand , A. McKenzie -- BBN-NET , J. Melvin -- SRI-ARC (NIC) ,
- E. Meyer -- MIT-MULTICS , J. Postel -- UCLA-NMC , N. Ryan --
- MIT-MULTICS , M. Seriff -- MIT-DMCG , R. Sundberg -- Harvard , R.
- Tomlinson -- BBN-TENEX , R. Watson -- SRI-ARC (NIC) , J. White --
- UCSB , R. Winter -- CCA
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- Suggested Reading
- -----------------
- It is recommended that prior to the workshop, attendees read
- the following papers. This will greatly enhance the success of
- the workshop.
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- 1. The Data Trnasfer Protocol, NWG/RFC # 264
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- 2. The File Transfer Protocol, NWG/RFC # 265
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- 3. The Use of "Set Data Type" Transaction in File
- Transfer Protocol, A. Bhushan, NWG/RFC # 294
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- 4. Using ARPANET Remote Job Entry, E. Harslem, NWG/RFC # 307
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- 5. NETRJT -- Remote Job Service Protocol for TIPs,
- R. T. Braden, NWG/RFC # 283
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- 6. Interim NETRJS Specifications, R. T. Braden, NWG/RFC # 189
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- 7. User's View of the DATACOMPUTER, R. Winter, NWG/RFC # 219
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- 8. Data Language, CCA, NIC # 8208
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- 9. A Suggested Addition to File Transfer Protocol,
- A. McKenzie, NWG/RFC # 281
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- 10. Revision of the Mail Box Protocol, NWG/RFC # 278
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- 11. Some Experience with File Transfer, H. Brodie,
- NWG/RFC # 269
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- 12. ARPANET Specifications for UCSB's Simple-Minded
- File System, J. White, NWG/RFC # 122
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- (In addition please also read any of the position papers
- distributed prior to the workshop.)
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- NWG/RFC # 309 Abhay Bhushan
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- [ This RFC was put into machine readable form for entry ]
- [ into the online RFC archives by BBN Corp. under the ]
- [ direction of Alex McKenzie. 12/96 ]
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