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- PRIVACY Forum Digest Saturday, 17 July 1993 Volume 02 : Issue 25
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- CONTENTS
- Bank Security Issues (Diane Barlow Close)
- Re: American Express recognizes privacy concerns
- (payne@itd.nrl.navy.mil)
- Credit Card Security (Paul Robinson)
- Incident at a Car Rental 800 Number (Paul Robinson)
- Data-swapping between EMT and DMV (Wayne Madsen)
- Congress asked for hearings on Owens bill (James Love)
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- VOLUME 02, ISSUE 25
-
- Quote for the day:
-
- "... They're giving you a number,
- And takin' 'way your name."
-
- -- From the song "Secret Agent Man",
- theme to "Danger Man" (1961) and
- "Secret Agent" (1965-1966).
- Song by P.F. Sloan and Steve Barri,
- sung by Johnny Rivers.
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-
- Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1993 09:34:22 -0800 (PDT)
- From: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
- Subject: Bank Security Issues
-
- Nelson Bolyard wrote:
-
- > Suppose you received a message on your residence answering machine that
- > [Typical Bank of America horror story deleted.]
-
- What you wrote of is very, very typical of Bank of America, imho. I
- went through this exact same scenario, except about using the SSN# as
- a password, not about credit cards, exactly one year ago today. I see
- the attitude of the "customer service" (abuse is more like it)
- representatives haven't changed:
-
- > The bank personnel (to whom we finally talked after completing the maze
- > of questions asked by the machine) were consumed with the desire to
- > authenticate us, and asked us to repeat the SSN info which we had already
- > entered, but seemed shocked that perhaps we might legitimately wonder if
- > they were who they claimed to be. They were hesitant to let us speak
- > with the person who called us, but did at least acknoledge that she is a
- > real employee.
-
- It seems that BofA routinely leaves return phone numbers with no
- company identification on them. Their attitude is one of "we, the
- legitimate, are trying to call you, the lowly, so you should take our
- word for it and call us back pronto!" They are overprotective of
- their staff, but do NOT apply the same zealous procedures to their
- customers or to their customers' accounts!
-
- > One would think that, because they eat much of the cost of credit card
- > fraud, banks would have some incentive to use fraud-resistant procedures
-
- One would think that, but I found extreme resistance to getting BofA
- to employ even rudimentary fraud-check procedures like the use of a
- random password instead of a SSN# for pass book checkups.
-
- > certain that they've called the bank. But apparently they do not care
- > if their card holders get swindled or not.
-
- Bingo! That's certainly been the impression I've received!
-
- As I mentioned much earlier, I went through almost this same scenario
- one year ago. My husband's SSN# was stolen and used, along with his
- name, to set up the great-credit-card-company-rip-off by some
- as-yet-unknown-fink. When we found out about it and had cleared his
- name and credit record, we wanted to protect our driver's license and
- bank accounts and stuff like that. We had no problem getting the Big
- Three credit reporting agencies to put a fraud warning in my husband's
- credit report, and we had not problem getting the State to put a fraud
- warning/hold on my husband's driver's licence, but we had major, major
- problems getting Bank of America to implement a password change!
-
- The policy was supposed to already be in place, but it took three
- weeks to change a SSN# to a password, to get locked out of the
- auto-phone-system (as it was "not set up for any passwords except
- SSN#) and then a further FIVE MONTHS to get the phone dweebs to ask
- for that password when doing stuff to our accounts!
-
- I ended up writing one of BofA's VPs -- *that's* when I saw some
- action!! (Finally!!) He not only implemented policy quickly, but saw
- the necessity to change some of it for customer protection and then
- followed up with secret spot checks (for three months) to make sure
- employees were doing their job. He fired or transferred those that
- made repeated mistakes. I was impressed, but saddened that it had to
- go that far for something that was supposed to be already in place but
- just hadn't been used before.
-
- Anyway, my BofA troubles didn't end there and when they messed up big
- time on all three IRA transactions I decided to take my business
- elsewhere. I did a huge phone interrogation of all the local banks,
- and the only one I found that combined both convenience with enough
- security checks and really pleasant, efficient employees was Wells
- Fargo.
-
- I've been really impress so far! I've been there 8 months now and all
- of my problems have been handled speedily, efficiently and without the
- need for supervisors! Heck, they've gotten things right the FIRST
- time!! And I was super impressed with their ability to handle
- personalized passwords instead of SSN's, although a little
- disappointed they limit them to 3 letter/characters. But at least
- it's a start!
-
- Other banks and S&L's that came close, imho:
-
- Foothill
- 1st Nationwide
- Eureka Bank
- HomeFed Bank
-
- If you can go without 24 phone service, or don't mind limited ATM
- availability, then just about any small bank or S&L whose president
- resides in-house (like 1st Nationwide on San Antonio) will listen
- seriously to bank/credit horror stories and then implement new,
- personal policies to keep your money safe and get you feeling better.
- I found the smaller banks were very keen on security, although I'm
- very happy with the service I'm getting at Well's Fargo.
-
- I'm certainly happy I'm gone from BofA!! I went through lost funds
- (their fault) and scraps with the IRS due to mis-reported funds (again
- their fault), and although they eventually corrected everything, it
- shouldn't have happened in the first place! If you want to stick with
- BofA, then I suggest you write the same VP that I wrote to get your
- problems solved. Heck, you can even mention my name -- he should
- remember me, he sent me enough flowers! :-D
-
- Don Owen
- Senior Vice President,
- Manager, Item Processing
- 611 North Brand Blvd.
- Glendale, CA 91203
-
-
- > Perhaps a list of which banks follow good security practices (e.g. don't
- > use readily obtainable information, such as SSNs, for passwords, and
- > encourage their customers to be aware of fraud and use fraud-resistant
- > procedures to deal with emergencies) would be useful to the readship
-
- Hopefully I've been of some help! Good luck!
-
- --
- Diane Barlow Close
- close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 12 Jul 93 8:40:23 EDT
- From: payne@itd.nrl.navy.mil
- Subject: re: American Express recognizes privacy concerns
-
- One thing to note about American Express's attention to privacy however:
-
- When I was a Card holder, I was solicited by AMEX regularly for
- various products and services (e.g., applications for the Gold Card).
- I used to receive my mail at a P.O. Box, and I usually discarded such
- junk mail before leaving the Post Office. However, I always took
- special care of AMEX mailings, because AMEX had the nasty habit of
- printing my AMEX number somewhere in the mailings (such as on any
- included application forms).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 09:06:45 -0400 (EDT)
- From: Paul Robinson <TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM>
- Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
- Subject: Credit Card Security
-
- -----
- nelson@bolyard.wpd.sgi.com (Nelson Bolyard), writes:
- > One would think that, because they eat much of the cost of credit
- > card fraud, banks would have some incentive to use fraud-resistant
- > procedures for dealing with their card holders, and would encourage
- > their card holders to never give out their "password" information
- > to incoming callers, or to people (and machines) whom they call,
- > unless they are certain that they've called the bank. But
- > apparently they do not care if their card holders get swindled or
- > not.
-
- To quote from the song "Hello Stranger":
-
- "Well some they do and some they don't, and some you just can't tell..."
-
- When I received my new Visa card in June, effective 7/93, there was a
- sticker on it warning me it was "dead plastic" e.g. that the card
- would remain invalid until I called the bank at the number printed on
- the sticker to validate the information. Now, since this was a
- legitimate Visa card from my issuer and my old card expired 6/93,
- it made sense; but someone else could have pulled the same type of
- scam, since the bank asked me to authenticate myself with some private
- information to enable the card. Since most of the time I'm usually
- either maxed out or have less than $200 free, it wouldn't get a thief
- much.
-
- But there is another problem, that of the apparently illiterate and
- incompetent people they have at some credit card companies. I have
- a shared account with a relative. I called once to find out what
- the available credit was on my Visa card. Well, they asked for the
- relative's social security number (which I know) and apparently it's
- keyed to their number even though it's a joint card.
-
- Point is they got the number wrong, and froze my account. So they
- tell me to mail proof of the correct number to their security office
- which is supposed to be in South Dakota.
-
- I have a drivers' license from Maryland which does not print Social
- Security Numbers on the card. The relative I share this Visa card
- with (the relative doesn't use it; they have another card with someone
- else that they use) has an ID card from the District of Columbia which
- *does* show Social Security Number. So I photocopied that along
- with a photocopy of the credit card with the matching name on it.
-
- After *Six Weeks* they finally turn the card back on, because the
- office told me to send the information to the security office for
- their *other* VISA card, and it had to be sent to the security office
- for the "special" card (The financial institution runs two, their
- regular visa and their allegedly "special" Visa, and I'm stuck with
- the so-called Special one, that is run out of a different office.
- I am being deliberately vague so someone can't figure out who I am
- using, and no, I'm not talking about a secured Visa card.)
-
- So the other day I tried to call them to check on the balance. They
- *still have the wrong social security number* and I'm afraid to say
- anything because the last time I did they shut off my plastic for *Six
- weeks* because *I* told them their information was wrong. Because their
- computer and the clerks want Social Security numbers, I can't ever ask any
- information about my account, for fear they'll lock out my credit card
- again.
- ---
- Paul Robinson - TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1993 15:38:23 -0400 (EDT)
- From: Paul Robinson <TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM>
- Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring, MD USA
- Subject: Incident at a Car Rental 800 Number
-
- -----
- Recently I called a car rental company to request a car over the
- weekend. (I do not own a car because the bus runs from my house
- direct to my office; the expense would be frivolous.)
-
- I called the nationwide 800 number and requested it for Washington
- National Airport. (Note: for most places, rentals from an airport
- location are cheaper than rentals in the city. As the airport has
- direct train service, it's no more difficult than going into DC, and
- possibly easier.)
-
- I ordered the car for a weekend, and was asked the usual information
- about whether I was over 25 and so on. The interesting note was that
- they stated that they would check my drivers' record when I went to
- get the automobile. Now, I can understand that someone who is renting
- me a car would want to check to make sure I don't have a habit of
- stealing cars or running into telephone poles, but I do note that this
- is the first time I've heard any place state they would do so.
-
- I have heard that there have been problems with companies renting cars
- to people who are bad drivers, who take the optional accident waiver and
- then don't care what happens. After I had rented more than 10 times
- and never made a bad move, I stopped taking accident waiver.
-
- What bothers me is that the rental office is at Washington, DC's National
- Airport, in Arlington, Virginia and I live in Silver Spring, Maryland so I
- have a Maryland driver's license, yet apparently they will have no trouble
- checking my background, which would be an Interstate record, even on a
- Saturday. Makes me wonder how.
-
- Well, at least Maryland doesn't print Social Security numbers on the
- drivers' license...
- ---
- Paul Robinson - TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 13 Jul 93 11:17:56 EDT
- From: wmadsen@opus.starlab.csc.com (Wayne Madsen)
- Subject: Data-swapping between EMT and DMV
-
- Recently, an employee of Martin Marietta here in Moorestown, New Jersey
- collapsed at his desk and was rushed off to hospital by EMT (Emergency
- Medical Technician) personnel. He was diagnosed with a benign brain
- tumor. Upon his recovery he was notified by the NJ Dept. of Motor
- Vehicles (DMV) that he had to re-apply for his drivber's license.
-
- It seems that the EMT had shared the medical data with DMV and when
- confronted later, EMT claimed that it was a routine procedure to do so.
- Is this a common procedure in other states? If so, it is a draconian
- privacy measure and calls into question the privacy of medical data
- in the upcoming National Health Insurance program - if the government
- presently is so callous in its disregard for such data - what will
- happen when they run the show more or less completely?
-
- Wayne Madsen
- Computer Sciences Corp.
- Moorestown, NJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1993 17:07:01 EDT
- From: love@essential.org
- Subject: CONGRESS ASKED FOR HEARINGS ON OWENS BILL
-
- ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
- Taxpayer Assets Project
- Information Policy Note
- June 12, 1993
-
- WASHINGTON, June 12. Today 15 citizen groups wrote to
- Representative Gary Condit (D-CA) asking for hearings on HR 629,
- the Improvement of Information Access Act (IIA Act, sometimes
- referred to as the "Owens bill" after its sponor, Rep. Major
- Owens of NY).
-
- Condit is the new Chair of the House Subcommittee on
- Government Information. This subcommittee has bottled HR 629
- up for the past two years, due primarily to opposition to the
- bill by lobbyists for commercial data vendors.
-
- Groups calling for hearings include the Taxpayer Assets
- Project, Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility, Public
- Citizen, Center for Media Education, Association of Research
- Libraries, Center for Civic Networking, the Information Trust,
- Consumer Federation of America, FAIR, Government Accountability
- Project, National Writers Union, Environmental Research
- Foundation, Federation of American Scientists, Essential
- Information, and the National Coordinating Committee for the
- Promotion of History.
-
- The letter follows:
-
- ----------------------------------------
- June 12, 1993
-
- Representative Gary Condit
- Chair, Subcommittee on Government Information,
- Justice and Agriculture
- Committee on Government Operations
- U.S. House of Representatives
- Washington, DC 20515
-
- Dear Representative Condit:
-
- We are writing to request that you hold a hearing of the
- Subcommittee on Government Information, Justice and Agriculture
- to consider HR 629, the Improvement of Information Access Act
- (IIA Act). This legislation, first introduced in 1991, is a very
- important proposal that would broaden public access to government
- information resources. The IIA Act reflects the views and needs
- of the research, education and library community. The issues
- addressed in the bill are relevant to public access to government
- information in an era when computers are increasingly important.
-
- The IIA Act addresses the following issues:
-
- 1. AGENCIES ARE GIVEN A MANDATE TO USE MODERN COMPUTER
- TECHNOLOGIES TO DISSEMINATE GOVERNMENT INFORMATION
-
- Agencies are required to disseminate information in diverse modes
- and through appropriate outlets, including federal depository
- libraries, national computer networks such as the Internet, and
- other outlets. They must assure free or low-cost public access
- to Government information. Agency dissemination efforts must
- ensure the timeliness, usefulness, and reliability of the
- information for the public. Agencies are given a mandate to
- provide data users with adequate documentation, software,
- indexes, or other resources that will permit and broaden public
- access to Government information.
-
- Why are these measures needed?
-
- While some agencies have taken bold and imaginative
- steps to broaden public access to Government
- information through the use of modern information
- technologies, other agencies actively resist efforts to
- broaden public access. This bill would give federal
- agencies a mandate to provide the types of information
- services and products that are important to data users.
-
- 2. STANDARDS
-
- Agencies would be required to disseminate information products
- and services in standardized record formats. Agencies would be
- required to report annually on efforts to develop or implement
- standards for file and record formats, software query command
- structures, user interfaces, and other matters that make
- information easier to obtain and use, and also on agency
- provisions for protecting access to records stored with
- technologies that are superseded or obsolete.
-
- The National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) and
- the National Records and Archives Administration (NARA) would be
- required to develop and periodically revise voluntary performance
- standards for public access to government records.
-
- Why are these measures needed?
-
- Many federal agencies have not yet developed standards
- for information systems, and thus it is often difficult
- for agencies to share data or for the public to obtain
- access to agency information resources.
-
- 3. PRICING
-
- The IIA Act would set a government wide limit on the prices the
- federal government can charge on information products and
- services. This price limit would be the incremental cost of
- dissemination, which is defined to exclude the costs of data
- collection. Agencies would not be allowed to impose royalties or
- other fees on the redissemination of federal government
- information.
-
- Why are these measures needed?
-
- As federal agencies are faced with difficult fiscal
- pressures, they are looking at information resources as
- a source of income. Many agencies price electronic
- information products and services far above
- dissemination costs, and impose royalties and
- restrictions on the redissemination of information.
- Such policies erode the public's right-to-know, and
- lead to a society where information is rationed to the
- most affluent. The IIA Act limits user fees on
- information products and services to dissemination
- costs, which is the policy which has long been used for
- information published in paper formats. Limiting the
- prices for information products and services to the
- costs of dissemination is also consistent with the
- recently revised OMB Circular A-130.
-
-
- 4. PUBLIC NOTICE
-
- Perhaps most importantly, the IIA Act would make the federal
- management of information resources more democratic. Every year
- federal agencies would be required to publish a report which
- describes:
-
- - the plans to introduce or discontinue information products
- and services,
-
- - the efforts to develop or implement standards for file and
- record formats, software query command structures and other
- matters that make information easier to obtain and use,
-
- - the status of agency efforts to create and disseminate
- comprehensive indexes or bibliographies of their information
- products and services,
-
- - the means by which the public may access the agency's
- information,
-
- - the plans for preserving access to electronic information
- that is stored in technologies that may be superseded or
- obsolete, and
-
- - the agency plans to keep the public aware of its information
- resources, services and products.
-
-
- Agencies would be required to solicit public comments on this
- plan, including comments on the types of information collected
- and disseminated, the agency's methods of storing information,
- their outlets for disseminating information, the prices they
- charge for information and the "validity, reliability,
- timeliness, and usefulness to the public of the information."
- The agency would be required to summarize the comments it
- receives and report each year what it has done to respond to the
- comments received in the previous year.
-
- Why are these measures needed?
-
- It is essential that federal agencies become more
- involved with citizens at the grass roots as they
- design information policies. Citizens have important
- information regarding the way Government information is
- used, and they also have important insights regarding
- emerging information technologies. When issues such as
- standards are involved, it is essential to have regular
- and frequent input from citizens regarding the choice
- of standards, particularly since technologies are
- rapidly changing. These public notice provisions will
- empower citizens at the grass roots to shape federal
- policies in ways that benefit the public.
-
-
- HEARINGS ARE NEEDED ON HR 629
-
-
- While this important legislation has broad backing from the right
- to know community, and has been endorsed by such groups as Public
- Citizen, the American Library Assocation, Computer Professionals
- for Social Responsiblity (CPSR) and the Taxpayer Assets Project,
- the Subcommittee on Government Information should schedule or
- conduct a hearing on this bill.
-
-
- Sincerely,
-
- James Love, Taxpayer Assets Project; P.O. Box 19367, Washington,
- DC 20036; 202/387-8030; love@essential.org
-
- Paul Wolfson, Public Citizen; 2000 P Street, NW, Suite 700
- Washington, DC 20036; 202/833-3000
-
- Pam Gilbert, Congress Watch; 215 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE,
- Washington, DC 20003; 202/546-4996
-
- Marc Rotenberg, Computer Professionals for Social Responsiblity
- 666 Pennsylvania Avenue, SE, Suite 303, Washington, DC 20003;
- 202/544-9240; rotenberg@washofc.cpsr.org
-
- Tom Devine, Government Accountability Project, 810 First Street,
- NE, Suite 630, Washington, DC 20002; 202/408-0034
-
- Prue Adler, Association of Research Libraries, 21 Dupont Circle,
- NW, Washington, DC 20036; 202/296-8656l; prue@cni.org
-
- Jeff Chester, Center for Media Education, P.O. Box 330039,
- Washington, DC 20033; 202/628-2620; cme@digex.net
-
- Richard Civille, Center for Civic Networking, P.O. Box 65272
- Washington, DC 20035; 202/362-3831; rciville@cap.gwu.edu
-
- Page Miller, National Coordinating Committee for the Promotion of
- History; 400 A Street, SE, Washington, DC 20003; 202/544-2422
-
- Scott Armstrong, The Information Trust, 1330 Connecticut Avenue,
- NW, Suite 220, Washington, DC 20036; 202/296-4833
-
- Brad Stillman, Legislative Counsel, Consumer Federation of
- America, 1424 16th Street, NW, Suite 604, Washington, DC 20036
- 202/387-6121; bstillman@essential.org
-
- Janine Jackson, FAIR, 130 West 25th Street, New York, NY 10011;
- 212/633-6700
-
- John Richard, Essential Information, P.O. Box 19405, Washington,
- DC 20036; 202/387-8034; jrichard@essential.org
-
- Jonathan Tasini, National Writers Union, 739 West 186th Street
- Apartment 1A, New York, NY 10033; 212/927-1208;
- 76450.2377@compuserve.com
-
- Peter Montague, Environmental Research Foundation, P.O. Box 5036
- Annapolis, MD 21403; erf@igc.apc.org
-
- Steven Aftergood, Federation of American Scientists, 307
- Massacusetts Ave., NE, Washington, DC 20002; 202/675-1012
- jstone@igc.apc.org
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