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The F I D O N E W S Volume 21, Number 23 07 Jun 2004 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | | | | FidoNet community. | | Crash netmail articles to: | | | | | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907 | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Routed netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | | | \_______\(_| /_) | Email attach to: | | _ @/_ \ _ | bfelten @ telia dot com | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Björn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2004 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 2. IN THE SNOOZE TEN YEARS AGO .............................. 2 Artspec II ............................................... 2 3. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 5 FIDONet Software References .............................. 5 4. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 10 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 10 5. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12 How to Submit an Article ................................. 12 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 14 FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 1 7 Jun 2004 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Last week was such a busy week, I totally forgot all about the new column I promised the week before that, i.e. counting down to our 20th anniversary with something from the Snooze ten years ago, but this week we're back to normal again, with no contributions what-so-ever. For this week's 1994 column, I picked a piece, that seems to indicate everything was not all that polite and friendly in our e-zine by that time... ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 2 7 Jun 2004 ================================================================= IN THE SNOOZE TEN YEARS AGO ================================================================= ARTSPEC II: Additions and Revisions to ARTSPEC.DOC Dennis McClain-Furmanski, 1:275/429 The following is a list of additions and revisions to ARTSPEC.DOC, the Fidonews submission guidelines. These have been compiled by noting the traffic in this publication. [Note for the irony impaired: this is satire. Do not paste it into ARTSPEC. Honest, ARTSPEC.DOC does exist. Really.] - Grammar and spelling flames are allowed. Forget the fact that virtually every echo on the backbone disallows them either explicitly or implicitly. Fidonews is special in that we can waste your time and disk space, and you have no recourse but to add to the useless traffic with your appended complaints. This of course is NOT allowed with regards to submissions from those poor unfortunates in less developed countries like Europe. They can't help it they can't talk good. Come on, impress us with your high school grammar training. Heaven forbid that people should pay attention to what someone means. We have to distract everyone with how it was said. - Say the same things over and over. We have not had complaints of censorship in every issue. It doesn't matter that it proves you have no concept of what that word really means, or that we have none about what it means to reject useless garbage from Fidonews. Just because you don't know what your rights are doesn't mean some sneaky government is going to come along and steal the real rights. And since you're not likely to ever really meet any of the people who will read any of this much less get to know them, there is no way anyone will ever know you're only interested in perpetuating infantile behavior and wouldn't dream of mentioning the words First Amendment in front of anyone you actually know. Besides, you have a RIGHT to be, stay and act ignorant. So send along those repeats, no matter how wrong. Hey, you proved masturbation won't make you go blind, and you still do it, right? The only differences is we won't give you blisters for overdoing it. - Use profanity liberally. No, it doesn't make you ignorant. But continuing to do what some people have asked you nicely not to (even if some others asked you NOT so nicely) does make you a jerk just as bad as those who would control your speech. If you want to be right, you need to be as wrong as they are. Again, we don't follow the same kinds of rules that echos do; they have nothing to do with Fidonews. You may freely insult anyone in any fashion you wish here. We suggest you do so interspersed with justifications for your action. Quoting others' justifications is a good way to get this done without actually having to think up reasons yourself. Remember, intelligent people use profanity too. Being smart is no reason to have to use the smarts or to make any kind of effort, and you don't really care how you look to others. We don't. No, it's much more important for you to force people to see the language that you can't use in many other places but wouldn't even consider complaining about in those situations. FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 3 7 Jun 2004 - Complain about the profanity liberally. You know it won't work, but don't let that stop you. You too have a right to bang your head on a wall. You have just as much right to have a 'family oriented' publication as the others do to freedom from censorship. No matter neither of you can prove your rights because they don't exist. We want job security. As long as you insist on getting your way and the ones that want to impress us with their limited vocabulary do too, we'll have it. We need you to waste our time also - DO NOT mention religion. This is not allowed as it causes too much upset among the members. This is not censorship any more than disallowing profanity would be, but it's the way we do things here. We get too many negative response articles, and after all, this is your newsletter; we print what you want to see. We have entirely different reasons for this decision than we do for the decision regarding profanity. Contradictory? That's OK, we subscribe to the International Ethic of Hypocrisy in Print. We're working on being the cover story of their next issue. Again we say, this is your newsletter. - Reply, rereply, rerereply. Never act, only react. It's too hard to think of something new to talk about. Besides, you don't care about anything except if you don't like what someone says about it, or how they say it. And use quote markers to prove that this is an echo instead of a newsletter. It makes your whining oh so much more colorful. You might have the attention span it would take to say something cogent without having to cue yourself every three lines, but nobody else does. Anything else would be like writing, which is work. Use that echomail technology. Remember, never make a point, just destroy someone else's. - In order to keep traffic up here in Fidonews, don't do anything positive about any problem, technical or otherwise. If someone actually did start using a new format of nodelist or whatever we'd have nothing to print. So don't do anything, just complain. So much the better if you can coherently state your point and show that you actually know enough about the problem to do something about it. If you'll only complain, this will set a good example for others' non-action. - Get real angry and show it. If there's something you don't like, don't just say so, scream at the top of your ASCII. After all, this is your livelihood, you life, your sole reason for existence. If you stopped and took time to think, you might either calm down and figure it's not worth the effort (which it isn't, but keep those cards and letters coming!), or you might actually make a good point and shut up some misguided soul. No, we'd much prefer that Fidonews be the Flame echo. You didn't think that 'newsletter' meant it was for news, did you? - Don't just propose, DEMAND, that XXXXX.XXX be the new standard. These things must change frequently, and at as much cost as possible. After all, cost doesn't matter. We all have too much money. We know this because nobody would have the insane idea to actually pay the shareware fees for six different archive programs to satisfy the whims of the endless numbers of micromanagers who insist on making people do things their way instead of sticking to something that works fine, or FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 4 7 Jun 2004 to pay for that new mailer or BBS every year, since you know you're not really going to use it forever, so you're just trying it out this year. If you can steal it, so can they. That way they can afford a new machine every six months, since the new software will require it. Nobody needs to have any commitments or any life outside Fidonet anyway. Cha-ching. - Ignore all of these. You ignore the rest of ARTSPEC anyway, and we do too sometimes. Good reasons with logical bases are, after all, only guidelines. Remember our motto: Newspapers should have no rules. Well, except maybe only rules we can apply only when we feel like it and ignore the rest of the time. If this fails to anger someone, I'm sorry, I'll get to you next time. Feel free to dislike the words, but you can't blame me for the circumstances and behaviors I observe. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 5 7 Jun 2004 ================================================================= BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= -=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=- Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |M |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 | | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889 | | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BeeMail: |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net 1:105/10 Stephen Proffit | | beemail@gexonline.net BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | | maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280 Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net | | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003 Fidonet to Internet: |MI |http://www.terminate.com Bo Bendtsen | | sales@terminate.com | | v2.00 on Mar 23rd 1997 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/ | | v1.4 RC2 on Sep 22nd 2003 Radius (based on |M |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38 Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463 | | v4.009 on Jan 2nd 2003 Terminate |MBP |http://www.terminate.com | | v5.00 on Aug 7th 1997 Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608 WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204 Software, Inc. | | AUP 450.2 on Jul 9th 2002 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 6 7 Jun 2004 Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org | | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.4 FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org 2:280/1076 | | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60 JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000 Squish |T |http://www.lanius.com | | sales@lanius.com v1.11 | |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ Watergate |TUI |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ | | ramon@sbbs.se | | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net | | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222 ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com | | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002 EZYCom BBS |BT |http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~dcbbs/ | | pjs@optushome.com.au 3:633/104 | | v2.0 on 3 May 2003 Falken BBS |B |http://falkenbbs.com | | v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002 Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org | | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final Maximus BBS |B |http://www.lanius.com | | sales@lanius.com v3.01 | |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802 Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | v0.33.21 on Jun 4th 2002 Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com | | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001 Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net | | groberts@nexusbbs.net | | v0.99.41.001 beta on Jun 10th 2001 Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be | | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002 RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120 Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | v2.62.2SW FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 7 7 Jun 2004 Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150 | | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999 Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net | | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net | | v3.10L Beta Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net | | support@telegard.net | | v3.09g2 SP4 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/ | | last update: Jun 2002 BBS Central |D |http://www.rpcomputers.com Bentstone |D |http://www.srupc.com/mall Capabilities Group | | info@stonebenders.com Cheepware: |D |http://www.midnightshour.org/cheepware/ Sean Dennis | | hausmaus@midnightshour.org 1:11/200 DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201 Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org Ruth Argust | | DoorMUD |D |http://www.dmud.thebbs.org | | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002 Elysium Software |D |http://www.elysoft.com | | mpreslar@mailcity.com Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com | | scott@jibben.com | | 1995-99 Release dates JNS Software: |D |http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ Rusty Johnson | | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com | | Tel: (304) 733-0113 John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com | | support@johndaileysoftware.com LORD (Legend of the |D |http://www.lordlegacy.org Red Dragon) Reborn | | mike@lordlegacy.org | | v4.06 on Feb 5th 2001 Lord-II IGMs |D |http://www.shelby.net/wizards/lord2igm/ PC Pursuits |D |http://www.pcpursuits.com | | brucep@pop.kis.net | | Tel: (301) 240-6653 Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 8 7 Jun 2004 | | nannette@shiningstar.net Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com | | Tel: (404) 256-9518 The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | jpritch@eisonline.com | | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002 Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013 Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org | | last update: Jul 17th 2002 (various) |D |http://www.webnexus.com/users/etow/ +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de | | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de | | v1.25 2:2426/1210.13 CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de | | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999 FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460 | | support@freexp.de | | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot) OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004 | | mk@openxp.de v3.8.7 beta Aug 3rd 2002 PPoint |P |http://www.alcuf.ca 1:249/114 | | v3.04 on Jan 10th 2000 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ GoldEd+ |E |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/ 2:203/6600 | | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003 SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de | | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999 TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet | | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed | | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com | | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997 Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/ Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806 (Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001 PeopleComm Terminal |CUI |http://www.peoplecomm.org 1:128/148 (BBS & Telnet w/ | | edward.williams@adelphia.net FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 9 7 Jun 2004 ZModem) | | v1.01a on Feb 11th 2003 TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | | transnet@ressl.com.ar | | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998 TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.multiboard.com/software/ Communications, Inc.| | support@multiboard.com 1:2401/305 | | v3.5 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/ (in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings) +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ File Archives: http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.org http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu http://hobbes.nmsu.edu Note: most also provide FTP access (use ftp:// vice http:// above) *=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=* Note: Please send corrections & additions to: Ben Ritchey, 1:393/68 ( or FReq Magic INFO direct for E-mail address ) WildCat! BBS at +1-337-232-4155 24/7 33.6kBps,8,N,1 Internet: http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/m/cmech617/fidosoft.txt Emeritus: Todd Cochrane, Frank Vest, Peter Popovich ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 10 7 Jun 2004 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.156 size 888.1kb date 2004-06-04 The nodelist has 7481 nodes in it and a total of 10220 non-comment entries including 6 zones 56 regions 423 hosts 530 hubs admin overhead 1015 ( 13.57 %) and 1085 private nodes 290 nodes down 349 nodes on hold off line overhead 1724 ( 23.05 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 615 ( 8.22 %) 9600 = 6499 ( 86.87 %) (HST = 131 or 2.02 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.02 %) (PEP = 11 or 0.17 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.02 %) (V32 = 3398 or 52.28 %) (V32B = 307 or 4.72 %) (V34 = 4377 or 67.35 %) (V42 = 3697 or 56.89 %) (V42B = 306 or 4.71 %) 2400 = 69 ( 0.92 %) 1200 = 6 ( 0.08 %) 300 = 292 ( 3.90 %) ISDN = 613 ( 8.19 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 2462 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 11 7 Jun 2004 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 12 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 40 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 301 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 3337 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1315 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2291 ( 30.62 %) MailOnly nodes = 4169 ( 55.73 %) Listed-only nodes = 581 ( 7.77 %) Other = 440 ( 5.88 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 12 7 Jun 2004 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. If you could type it on your keyboard, it's probably quite OK. No line may be longer than 70 characters. b) Put a title to the article. Put the title in two times. The first time, on the first line, with an * before it. The second time, on the second line, without the * and centered. This will help in the format since the title with the * is removed and used in the index, the second line will become the headline. On the third line, put your name and FidoNet address, present or former. If former, you may want to add some other address where you can be reached for personal comments. c) Deadline for article submission is Sunday, 12:00 UTC. Help the Editor by following the above guides. Below are some subjects and the file extension for the article as set in the configuration file for the making of the Fidonews. Please help by putting the file extension of the correct subject on the file name if known.. Ideas for Subject areas: Subject File | Subject File ----------------------------------|---------------------------------- From the *C's *.css | Rebuttals to articles *.reb Fidonet Regional News *.reg | Fidonet Net News *.net Retractions *.rtx | General Fidonet Articles *.art Guest Editorial *.gue | Fidonet Current Events *.cur Fidonet Interviews *.inv | Fidonet Software Reviews *.rev Fidonet Web Page Reviews *.web | Fidonet Notices *.not Getting Fidonet Technical *.ftc | Question Of The Week *.que Humor in a Fido Vein *.hfv | Comix in ASCII *.cmx Fidonet's Int. Kitchen *.rec | Poet's Corner *.poe Clean Humor & Jokes *.jok | Other Stuff *.oth Fidonet Classified Ads *.ads | Corrections *.cor Best of Fidonet *.bof | Letters to the Editor *.let If you don't know or are not sure, send the article anyway. Put a .TXT on it and I'll try to figure out where it should be in the Fidonews. If you follow these simple guidelines, there should be little problem in getting your article published. If your submission is too far out of specs for the Fidonews, it will be returned to you and/or a message sent informing you of the problem. This DOES NOT mean that your article is not accepted. It means that there is something in it that I can not fix and I need your help on it. FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 13 7 Jun 2004 Send articles via e-mail or netmail, file attach or message to: Björn Felten Fidonet 2:2/2 E-Mail bfelten @ telia dot com IMPORTANT! If you send the article via e-mail, make sure you put the word "fidonews" somewhere in the subject line! That way it will always pass the spam filter, ending up in the proper folder. Please include a message, telling me that you have sent an article. That way I will know to look for it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 21-23 Page 14 7 Jun 2004 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Editor: Björn Felten, 2:2/2 | | Crash mail attached: Editor@2:2/2 | | E-Mail attached: bfelten @ telia dot com | | Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org | | Columnist: Frank Vest - Frank's Column | | | + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince | | Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, | | Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink, | | Doug Meyers, Warren D. Bonner, Frank L. Vest | | | + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet. 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