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The F I D O N E W S Volume 21, Number 18 03 May 2004
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| |The newsletter of the | | |
| | FidoNet community. | | Crash netmail articles to: |
| | | | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907 |
| | ____________| | |
| | / __ | Routed netmail articles to: |
| | / / \ | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 |
| | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | |
| \_______\(_| /_) | Email attach to: |
| _ @/_ \ _ | bfelten @ telia dot com |
| | | \ \\ | |
| | (*) | \ ))| |
| |__U__| / \// | Editor: Björn Felten |
| ______ _//|| _\ / | |
| / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. |
| (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
+--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
Copyright 2004 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.
Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. EDITORIAL ................................................ 2
3. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 3
Fidonet Remembers ........................................ 3
4. FRANK'S COLUMN - FRANK VEST .............................. 4
5. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 6
FIDONet Software References .............................. 6
6. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 11
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 11
7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 13
How to Submit an Article ................................. 13
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 15
FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 1 3 May 2004
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy
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FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 2 3 May 2004
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EDITORIAL
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If you remember all the things that Frank Vest writes about in the
general articles section this week, maybe you even remember what
BBSing was like, before the advent of fidonet?
The BBS concept wasn't old before people started having ideas about
connecting two or even more BBSs, or rather their message bases, so
that the users shouldn't have to log on to more than one BBS, but
still be able to have discussions and other communications with users
on other BBSs.
The first attempts to make what we today know as echomail and/or
netmail, were made by programs or even scripts, that called the next
BBS in the chain and logged in as a user, and then "uploaded" the
messages just as if a user had typed it in. No archmail packages
there...
Needless to say, this was very unreliable. More often than not
something went wrong, and the process could even hang totally, waiting
for e.g. a menu that had been changed by the sysop of the receiving
BBS, forgetting to tell the sysop of the transmitting BBS, or for many
other reasons. Obviously the process was almost never run
unattended...
Well, then came fidonet and the rest is, as they say, history. But
nowadays too many fido sysops seem to have forgotten, and some even
deny, that fidonet is and always has been a BBS network, with the only
purpose to make it possible to treat all connected BBSs as one big
BBS, all for the benefit of the users.
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FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 3 3 May 2004
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GENERAL ARTICLES
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Fidonet Remembers
By Frank Vest
1:124/6308.1
Do your remember;
When the Fidonet Nodelist had some 30,000 Nodes listed in it?
When a Node that was listed as "CM" without the "MO" flag would most
likely have a BBS online?
Going to the library or magazine store to get the latest BBS list
publication?
Even the Fidonet Coordinators operated a BBS?
What a BBS is?
Getting hundreds of message in every echo each day?
When a Moderator requested a feed cut, the cut was made *before* the
mail feed asked "why"?
One list of echos that all feeds carried?
Fidonet.na?
The mention of broken link would cause an "all nighter" to figure out
and fix the break?
When the Fidonews Publication had enough articles that you didn't see
dumb "Do you remember;" articles like this one? :)
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FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 4 3 May 2004
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FRANK'S COLUMN - FRANK VEST
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Is this real?
By Frank Vest
It's early in the morning. You're standing in a parking lot talking
to a group of people you just met. The wind is calm and it's just
before sunrise. "What a beautiful day." This was planned a few weeks
ago and the day is finally here.
It's a short ride to a chosen place. You and the rest of the people
climb out of the van. There's a lot of activity. You're looking at a
large basket that was just unloaded onto the ground. A big bag is
unloaded and the contents spread out on the ground in front of the
basket. You're called over and you listen to the instructions. Sounds
ok to you.
Lots of activity. Cables are being connected and chatter going on.
You notice that the basket is now on it's side. "Why?"
You hear an engine start and feel air moving. "Wow! That thing is
getting big!" "Was all that in that one bag??" You take as many
pictures as you can of everything. One of the people you just met has
you pose for a photo. "How are they going to get that to stand
upright?" It looks like such a mess of cables and stuff.
There's a loud noise and you feel heat. "Whoa!" "That's a big fire!"
"Oh wow!" "Would you look at that?!" "So that's how they get that
thing to stand up!"
"Are you ready?" - you are asked. Well of course you are. This is
what you've waited for all this time. You're told that there is no
graceful way to get in - "Just climb in." There's some last minute
instructions. Another photo is taken. You hear that loud noise and
feel the heat from that flame again. It's right over your head this
time.
You hear the people telling you to have fun and enjoy the ride. Then
you look around and realize that you're not on the ground anymore. The
trees are getting shorter and you think to yourself - "The elevator at
work is scarier than this!"
As you look around, you see Plano, Dallas and other cities. You
notice that the fields look so small and so pretty. They are plowed in
rows and the cars in parking lots look like the toys you had as a
child. It's so quiet and calm. The only sound is the occasional noise
from the burners above your head.
Then you realize that you really are in a hot air balloon.
Have a great flight! We'll be waiting when you land. :)
FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 5 3 May 2004
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FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 6 3 May 2004
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BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
=================================================================
-=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=-
Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal
P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info
.- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.
|Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node|
`- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -'
Argus |M |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84
| | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889
| | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001
BeeMail: |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net 1:105/10
Stephen Proffit | | beemail@gexonline.net
BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102
| | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998
BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/
| | maloff@corbina.net
| | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000
FIDO-Deluxe IP |MPUI |http://www.fido-deluxe.de.vu 2:2432/280
Michael Haase | | m.haase@gmx.net
| | v2.4 on Sep 26th 2003
Fidonet to Internet: |MI |http://www.terminate.com
Bo Bendtsen | | sales@terminate.com
| | v2.00 on Mar 23rd 1997
FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330
Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101
| | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX
Husky Project |MTPUI|http://sf.net/projects/husky/
| | v1.4 RC2 on Sep 22nd 2003
InterMail, InterEcho |MT |http://www.ifido.com 1:1/133
| | bob@nwstar.com
| | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE
Radius (based on |M |http://radius.pp.ru 2:5012/38
Argus) | | fido5012@zaural.net Tel: 7-3522-469463
| | v4.009 on Jan 2nd 2003
Terminate |MBP |http://www.terminate.com
| | v5.00 on Aug 7th 1997
Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608
WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com
FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 7 3 May 2004
Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com
Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204
Software, Inc. | | AUP 450.2 on Jul 9th 2002
+- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org
| | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.4
FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org 2:280/1076
| | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60
GEcho |T |ftp://ftp.nwstar.com 1:140/12
| | bob@nwstar.com
JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de
(ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000
Squish |T |http://www.lanius.com
| | sales@lanius.com v1.11
| |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/
Watergate |TUI |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/
| | ramon@sbbs.se
| | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998
+- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net
| | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222
ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com
Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com
| | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002
EZYCom BBS |BT |http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~dcbbs/
| | pjs@optushome.com.au 3:633/104
| | v2.0 on 3 May 2003
Falken BBS |B |http://falkenbbs.com
| | v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002
Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org
| | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final
Maximus BBS |B |http://www.lanius.com
| | sales@lanius.com v3.01
| |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/
MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802
Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net
| | v0.33.21 on Jun 4th 2002
Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com
| | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001
Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net
| | groberts@nexusbbs.net
FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 8 3 May 2004
| | v0.99.41.001 beta on Jun 10th 2001
Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be
| | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002
RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120
Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com
| | v2.62.2SW
Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/
Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150
| | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999
Synchronet BBS |BT |http://www.synchro.net
| | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net
| | v3.10L Beta
Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net
| | support@telegard.net
| | v3.09g2 SP4
+- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
Atlantis Software |D |http://www.jimmyrose.com/atlantis/
| | last update: Jun 2002
BBS Central |D |http://www.rpcomputers.com
Bentstone |D |http://www.srupc.com/mall
Capabilities Group | | info@stonebenders.com
Cheepware: |D |http://www.midnightshour.org/cheepware/
Sean Dennis | | hausmaus@midnightshour.org 1:11/200
DDS (Doorware |D |http://www.doorgames.org 1:2404/201
Distribution System)| | ruth@doorgames.org
Ruth Argust | |
DoorMUD |D |http://www.dmud.thebbs.org
| | v0.98 Jun 1st 2002
Elysium Software |D |http://www.elysoft.com
| | mpreslar@mailcity.com
Jibben Software |D |http://www.jibbensoftware.com
| | scott@jibben.com
| | 1995-99 Release dates
JNS Software: |D |http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/
Rusty Johnson | | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com
| | Tel: (304) 733-0113
John Dailey Software |D |http://www.johndaileysoftware.com
| | support@johndaileysoftware.com
LORD (Legend of the |D |http://www.lordlegacy.org
Red Dragon) Reborn | | mike@lordlegacy.org
FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 9 3 May 2004
| | v4.06 on Feb 5th 2001
Lord-II IGMs |D |http://www.shelby.net/wizards/lord2igm/
PC Pursuits |D |http://www.pcpursuits.com
| | brucep@pop.kis.net
| | Tel: (301) 240-6653
Shining Star |D |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/
| | nannette@shiningstar.net
Sunrise Doors: |D |http://www.sunrisedoors.com
Al Lawrence | | al@sunrisedoors.com
| | Tel: (404) 256-9518
The Brainex System |D |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/
| | stanley@brainex.com 1994-99 Releases
Trade Wars |D |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
| | jpritch@eisonline.com
| | v3.09 (DOS-32) in 2002
Vagabond Software: |D |http://www.vbsoft.org 1:124/7013
Bryan Turner | | vagabond@vbsoft.org
| | last update: Jul 17th 2002
(various) |D |http://www.webnexus.com/users/etow/
+- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
APoint |PI |http://www.apoint-mail.de
| | dirk.pokorny@apoint-mail.de
| | v1.25 2:2426/1210.13
CrossPoint (XP) |P |http://www.crosspoint.de
| | pm@crosspoint.de v3.12d Dec 22nd 1999
FreeXP |P |http://www.freexp.de 2:2433/460
| | support@freexp.de
| | v3.40 RC3 Aug 31st 2003 (Snapshot)
OpenXP/32 |PI |http://www.openxp.com 2:248/2004
| | mk@openxp.de v3.8.7 beta Aug 3rd 2002
PPoint |P |http://www.alcuf.ca 1:249/114
| | v3.04 on Jan 10th 2000
+- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
GoldEd+ |E |http://mik.nu/golded-plus/ 2:203/6600
| | v1.1.5 Snapshot on Feb 28th 2003
SqEd32 |E |http://www.sqed.de
| | v1.15 on Dec 15th 1999
TimEd |E |http://blizzard.dnsalias.org/fidonet
| | mail@ozzmosis.com /timed
| | v1.11.a5 in March 2003 3:633/267
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Allfix |U |ftp://ftp.nwstar.com 1:140/12
| | bob@nwstar.com
| | v5.13 (v6?)
GiGo |UI |http://www.gigo.com
| | v0109 on Jan 9th 1997
Internet Rex: |UI |http://members.shaw.ca/InternetRex/
Charles Cruden | | telnet://xanadubbs.ca 1:342/806
(Khan Software) | | v2.29 on Oct 21st 2001
PeopleComm Terminal |CUI |http://www.peoplecomm.org 1:128/148
(BBS & Telnet w/ | | edward.williams@adelphia.net
ZModem) | | v1.01a on Feb 11th 2003
TransNet |UI |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/
| | transnet@ressl.com.ar
| | v2.11 on Jul 18th 1998
TransX: Multiboard |UI |http://www.multiboard.com/software/
Communications, Inc.| | support@multiboard.com 1:2401/305
| | v3.5
+- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
National BBS List |? | http://www.usbbs.org
Hispanic FIDO/BBS's |? | http://www.conecta2.org/pucela_bbs/
(in Spanish only) | | (Extensive software & BBS Listings)
+- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+
File Archives: http://archives.thebbs.org http://www.filegate.org
http://sysopscorner.thebbs.org http://www.juge.com
http://www.dmine.com/bbscorner/ http://garbo.uwasa.fi
http://www.simtel.net http://wuarchive.wustl.edu
http://hobbes.nmsu.edu
Note: most also provide FTP access (use ftp:// vice http:// above)
*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*=.=*=-=*
Note: Please send corrections & additions to: Ben Ritchey, 1:393/68
( or FReq Magic INFO direct for E-mail address )
WildCat! BBS at +1-337-232-4155 24/7 33.6kBps,8,N,1
Internet: http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/m/cmech617/fidosoft.txt
Emeritus: Todd Cochrane, Frank Vest, Peter Popovich
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SPECIAL INTEREST
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Nodelist Stats
Input nodelist nodelist.121
size 896.8kb
date 2004-04-30
The nodelist has 7559 nodes in it
and a total of 10328 non-comment entries
including 6 zones
56 regions
426 hosts
533 hubs
admin overhead 1021 ( 13.51 %)
and 1082 private nodes
319 nodes down
347 nodes on hold
off line overhead 1748 ( 23.12 %)
Speed summary:
>9600 = 629 ( 8.32 %)
9600 = 6557 ( 86.74 %)
(HST = 137 or 2.09 %)
(CSP = 1 or 0.02 %)
(PEP = 11 or 0.17 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 1 or 0.02 %)
(V32 = 3412 or 52.04 %)
(V32B = 329 or 5.02 %)
(V34 = 4432 or 67.59 %)
(V42 = 3705 or 56.50 %)
(V42B = 339 or 5.17 %)
2400 = 70 ( 0.93 %)
1200 = 6 ( 0.08 %)
300 = 297 ( 3.93 %)
ISDN = 620 ( 8.20 %)
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File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
----------------------------------------------------------
XA Frontdoor <1.99b 2475
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
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FIDONEWS 21-18 Page 12 3 May 2004
XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 12
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XP Seadog 6
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XR Opus 1.03 40
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XW Fido >12M 306
Tabby
KittenMail
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 3385
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
T-Mail
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None QMM 1327
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CrashMail capable = 2310 ( 30.56 %)
MailOnly nodes = 4214 ( 55.75 %)
Listed-only nodes = 591 ( 7.82 %)
Other = 444 ( 5.87 %)
[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]
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Send Articles via E-mail or Netmail, file attach or message to:
Björn Felten
Fidonet 2:2/2
E-Mail bfelten @ telia dot com
Please include a message, telling me that you have sent an article.
That way I will know to look for it.
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