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Newsgroups: alt.drugs.psychedelics
From: devanoff@ivory.trentu.ca
Subject: Phalaris
Message-ID: <1994Nov6.163912.25404@blaze.trentu.ca>
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 16:39:12 GMT
Anyone got any good refs that include pictures of P. Arundinacea?
Or, why not take what you've grown and scan it?
Here are some refs I got e-mailed to me recently:
Maten, G. C., et al. 1973. Alkaloids and palatability of P.
arundinacea grown in diverse environments. Agronomy Journal
65:199-201
Woods, D. L., et. al. 1971. Genetic control and seasonal variation
of some alkaloids in reed canary grass. Can Journal of
Plant Science 51:323-329 (Can=Canadian, just in case :)
Simons, A. B., et. al. 1971. Relationship of indole alkaloids to
palatabilit of P. arundinacea. Agronomy Journal 63:915-919
Numerous studies have been conducted on palatability variation to
grazing sheep and cattle--I don't think 'taste of the smoke of the
extract (however crude it may be) of P. Arundinacea' would be
included...HaHaHaaaaa. Ha?
Is it likely to be found in Ontario? If so, let me know before
it's too late (Winter's coming you know!)
Darryl
devanoff@trentu.ca
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs.psychedelics
Subject: Re: DMT Grasses
Date: 4 Nov 1995 22:18:56 -0600
In article <deadDHG70o.67L@netcom.com>, ja <dead@netcom.com> wrote:
>ALL strains of P. Arundinaceae (and tuberosa/aquatica for that mater)
>that I have read analysis of contain both DMT and 5meodmt.
>Unfortunately, many have a higher active does of 5meodmt than DMT.
Don't believe the hype.
Simons, A. B., and G. C. Marten. 1971. Relationship of indole alkaloids
to palatability of Phalaris arundinacea L. Agronomy Journal 63:
915-919.
"We screened 411 diverse genotype of reed canarygrass (Phalaris
arundinacea L.) for palatability to sheep. Indole alkaloid type and
concentration were estimated in selected plants... Either gramine or
5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT) + N,N-dimethyltryptamine
(DMT) were the primary alkaloids in all genotypes."
There's been a lot of research on Phalaris since it's an exotic species
which is displacing many native grasses and because it causes sheep who
eat it to stagger and die. I got into it a little this summer, here are
some other fun reference you might want to follow up on:
Marten, G. C., A. B. Simons, and J. R. Frelich. 1974. Alkaloids of reed
canarygrass as influenced by nutrient supply. Agronomy Journal
66: 363-368.
"Because total alkaloid concentration in this grass is highly heritable,
plant breeders should be able to develop low-alkaloid cultivars."
Ball, D. M., and C. S. Hoveland. 1978. Alkaloid levels in Phalaris
aquatica L. as affected by environment. Agronomy Journal 70:
977-981.
"Drought stress caused greater alkaloid increases both in field and
environmental chamber studies than did any other factor."
Mack, J. P. G, D. P. Mulvena, and M. Slaytor. 1988.
N,N-dimethyltryptamine production in Phalaris aquatica seedlings:
a mathematical model for its synthesis. Plant Physiology 88:
315-320.
I've got some other ones, but those three should get you all thinking.
One of these days I'll start looking for more info.