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LSD and Lithium
I posted this article to alt.drugs in May 1994 and received the
responses that follow. - Mike Brown <mike@hyperreal.com>
> I have a friend who is bipolar and is taking Lithium to control
> her chemical imbalance. I've been telling her about my postive
> experiences with LSD and she is interested in trying it.
> I checked the FTP sites and I don't recall seeing this being discussed
> here before, but I could be wrong.
> Can someone post or email me with any information they have concerning
> the interaction of LSD with Lithium? Surely there are some bipolar
> folks on the net who have tripped before. Is it too risky? What are
> the dangers? What advice can you offer?
---1st response---
Not advisable. Potentially very dangerous.
If your friend is planning to do this, then she MUST research LSD
intensively before taking it...and get a good understanding of exactly
what risks she will be taking.
LSD has been known to 'trigger' latent mental illnesses - it doesn't
cause them, but it can exacerbate the condition - even if the person
doesn't yet know that they have any 'condition'. This is probably where
the myth that "lsd can make you crazy" originally came from.
On the other hand, hallucinogens can cause a profound change in
outlook...enough to lift a severe depression - I know that this can
happen because it happened to me when I was around 22 - I'm 27 now. I
attribute my current mental health, and even my continued existence, to
a batch of mushrooms I took when I was suicidally depressed - turned my
head around completely, and within a few weeks I was well on the road
to recovery. It wasn't an instantaneous, magic cure but it provided
the impetus that I needed to get started. I would probably have
topped myself within a few months otherwise - suicide was constantly
on my mind, and I was evaluating different methods trying to come to a
decision...no way to be sure, but I expect that I would be dead by now
if it weren't for that mushroom trip.
So, tell your friend to BE VERY VERY CAREFUL. LSD could teach her
something, or it could send her into a downward spiral.
---2nd response---
I'm not sure if there are any known harmful interactions between LSD and
Lithium. In fact, I don't think anyone is _sure_ why Lithium is effective
in stopping bipolar cycles.
However, I am SURE that LSD is not something that should be introduced to
anyone with manic-depressive disorder. My girlfriend is also bipolar, and
LSD will cause a triggering effect in her that sends her straight into
mania, almost immediately. All it took was one trip. She
had gone without an episode for more than 5 years until she decided to dose
one day. Can you imagine how unpleasant that must feel? Full blown mania
PLUS an acid trip (which would probably become a bad trip.)
I hate to be one of thos e types that perpetuates these drug horror stories,
but it's just not a good idea for anyone who has a clinical disorder to take
mood altering drugs. Clara actually had to drop out of school that semester
and seek treatment at a hospital she ended up staying at for six weeks.
Mind you, she was'nt being treated for "Post LSD psychosis" ( a condition
which is a complete myth in my opinion.) but for the mania which the LSD
catalyzed.
I've also had positive experiences with LSD, so I have no bias against it.
But please don't let your friend take it! If you do decide to
do it, keep a close eye on her! (as if you wouldn't :) )
---3rd response---
I've never heard of this exact situation before, but it seems like it Might
be dangerous to me.. Lithium, as I understand it is used to stabilize a
person's personality, to lop off the manic and the depressive parts , and
leave the person more level.. but LSD can really send a person reeling in
either direction quite quickly.. I wouldn't recommend that anyone with
mental problems severe enough to me medicated in the long term try LSD...
---4th response---
Generally I lurk here in alt.drugs for lack of pertinent info, but here I must
comment... I was diagnosed manic-depressive in March, and was put on lithium
soon after. Contrary to popular belief, being manic-depressive is not an "I'm
so out of control everyday" sort of problem. It comes and it goes, many people
go years without a significant episode of mania or depression.
I have combined my lithium with LSD and had no problems. The only effect I
noticed at all with a slight increase in my tolerance of LSD (previously I had
very little - when friends dropped 2 tabs, I dropped 1, etc.). The LSD didn't
swing me into a mania or depression.
However, this is my experience. In the drug books I've read, the warning with
mixing lithium with pot or LSD is "possible psychosis". although no one in any
manic-depressive support group or online group I've talked to has experienced
such.
Just a little slice o' my life