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From: [e-mail] (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Drammamine Tablets..
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1993 00:12:54 GMT

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>>It is diphenhydramine, an antihistamine.  Sold as an allergy medication,
>>and a sleep aid.
>
>(Description of diphenhydramine experience deleted.)
>
>Actuall, motion sickness pills (garden variety
>Dramamine) are dimenhydrinate.  Sorta kinda different from diphenhydramine...

Dimenhydrinate is the 8-chlorotheophyllinate salt of diphenhydramine.
The only important difference is potency: 50mg of dimenhydrinate is
equivalent to 25mg of diphenhydramine hydrochloride.  Same drug.

It's still stupid to try to get high from overdosing on antihistamines.
It's unpleasant and potentially dangerous.

--
Steve Dyer
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Jason Tiscione)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drammamine Tablets..
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: 26 Oct 93 00:57:41 GMT

[e-mail] (peter menning) writes:

>Was talking late one night at a Dennys..  When i overherd someone at the
>table next to us start talking about how he started triping from taking 9 or
>10 motion sickness tabs..  <Diphenhydromene <I know i am killing the spelling>
>I am curious,  Is it really true or is it a new U/L?   And what would the side >effects be?

It is diphenhydramine, an antihistamine.  Sold as an allergy medication,
and a sleep aid.  It's more expensive as a sleep aid, even though it's the
same formulation- I guess they figure people will pay more to be sleepy than
they will to ease up their asthma attacks.  Or maybe it's a "sin tax" thing?
Took 250 mg once (a reckless experiment- but 60mg and 125mg on previous
nights didn't seem to do anything- and I was curious) and I didn't like it
at all.
(That's equivalent to ten 25 mg tablets.)  There's a feeling like, uh, you're
slipping away from yourself, you can't control what happens to you, etc.
All I wanted to do, for some reason, was read, read, read, but the next
day I didn't remember anything that happened on 20 pages.  (Useless.)
Hallucination has been reported but if I recall correctly, they aren't the
kind you'd want to have! (e.g. Thinking someone has been in the room who
hasn't, believing that you have to do chores that you've already done,
thinking that it's Tuesday when it's Saturday, etc.)  Not beautiful
spiral patterns on the wall or audio reverbations or anything LSD-ish, so
if you're looking for an "LSD replacement", speaking from personal
experience, I don't recommend diphenhydramine at all.

                                          Jason

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From: [e-mail] (_VTA9390:)
Subject:  Methedrine
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 10:13:39 GMT

       I've posted this before with no response:  Does anyone know what
methedrine is?  I guess not.  I am assuming that it's some type of meth-
amphetamine analog.  A friend says he has access to this drug and intends to
try it soon.  I just thought I'd ask one last time for his benefit.

       On a different note, I've seen several postings regarding Jimson Weed
(Datura Stramonium I believe).  I was always curious about this plant, but
the effects described sound similar to Gravol (Dramamine), which I HAVE
tried.  I for one would class it more as a deleriant than a hallucinogen.
The trip started with a nice stoned feeling, but quickly changed.  When
staring at any white object (ceilings, and even cups or cupped hands) I
noticed a strange clear gellatin-like substance that seemed to jiggle and
spread towards me (looked a lot like the alien in the Predator movies).
While doing LSD or psilocybin, I have always been able to tell reality from
hallucinations.  This is not the case with Dramamine.  Several times I car-
ried on conversations with individuals before discovering they were non-
existant.  I saw people and objects that were not there as well.  Perhaps the
worst aspect of the trip was the auditory part.  I constantly heard my name
being called, and sound is magnified to a very uncomfortable level.  Speech
(even from myself) was not only loud and difficult, but VERY slurred.  Com-
munication was difficult due to the fact that I would forget what I was talk-
ing about in mid-sentence, and would finish most sentences off by saying "Uh,
nevermind...I forgot."  The amount of paranoia that prevailed throughout the
trip was unbearable: especially after I saw my brother rise out of a pile of
clothes in the floor to tell me that my father (who happens to be the head
of a drug task force) was calling me.  Maybe all of this was due to the fact
that I was alone for the majority of this experience (nightmare).  Definate-
ly a one time experience for me.  Not recomended for the weak of heart or
mind.  Especially at that dosage: 24 tablets!

                                               Jamey

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Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: [e-mail]
Date: Mon,  2 May 1994 16:16:18 UTC
Subject: dimenhydrinate

Hi,

    After seeing the posts on Marezine, I checked out anti-emetics in
general and anti-histamines, and came across the anti-histamine
hallucinogenic tendency.  So I got some dimenhydrinate, the local
Rite-Aid variety (cheaper than Dramamine--sp?), and paid four bucks for
two boxes of twelve at 50 mg each.  I was going to take them with a
friend, but another friend wanted to split them three ways, so we had
eight apiece (400 mg).  We were pretty tired before we took them (about
one in the morning), and especially with the anti-histamine property of
putting one to sleep, we decided to have some coffee.  We, being
stoopid, put a hefty amount of Bailey's in our coffee, which I think was
one of the reasons we didn't react much.  About forty minutes passed,
and we finally started feeling it.  When inquired about my head, I said,
"I think my brain shrunk."  It felt very odd--not light, not heavy, just
empty. :)  When spoken to, we would have a delay (five to ten seconds)
before we could reply, which started amusing me, but I couldn't seem to
help it.  I went to bed about two hours later (had a fun time walking
there, too), and tried to sleep.  I thought it was wearing off.  The dry
mouth thing was buggin, so I kept some water by my bed.  I had a hard
time going to sleep, especially when a couple times I was choking and
found it difficult to bring in air through my throat (as opposed to
through my lungs).  I am a MILD asthmatic, and I was just starting to
get sick, so that probably had something to do with it, but my friend
said he started having to _think_ about breathing.  I woke up about
seven hours later alive, but with a pretty good headache.  I only talked
to one of the other friends, and he said he was still messed up that
afternoon with the delay and stuff.

    I guess I'd try it again, but with no alcohol (I doubt what we had
was a very big factor, though) and more dimenhydrinate (to try to get
the hallucinations).  If anyone has tried it under better conditions,
please post (especially whether or not you had hallucinations), and
thanks in advance.
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From: [e-mail] (David May)
Subject: Marazine
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 07:40:48 GMT

We used to do this stuff in junior high when we couldnt get anything else,
and yes if you take 4 or more you poisen your system and hallucinate badly.
One of my friends thought his dad was his girl friend and tried to do her,
needless to say he ended up in the hospital getting his stomach pumped. And
my other friend thought a gas pump was alive and attacking his car so he ran
over it. It was all captured on video camera, he had some explaining to
do in court. And when I did it I felt like i had aton of bricks dropped onto
my head the next day. Mushrooms or mescaline is much better!!!
--
                                             [e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 30 Apr 1994 14:26:11 EDT
From: Gordo <[e-mail]>
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Marezine trip - Evaluation

OK, I saw the posts on marezine on the net, and decided to see if they
sold it at the local drug store.  Sure enough - they did - $6.09 for
a box of 12.  I took 7 of them at 10:45 PM (I wanted to be conservative
since I don't know anyone firsthand who has done this).  I went out -
after two hours, the only effect I got was feeling REALLY tired.
(Note - I'm 6 foot, 160lbs, male, with no tolerance to any drug)I
went back home around 1AM, and took 3 more for a total of 10.  I
stayed in my room for about 30 min. then went out for a walk. I
wasn't really feeling that tired anymore, and felt dazed.

As I walked down a dark, quiet, back road listening to the Dead on my
headphones - I saw a glowing white ball.  At first I thought it was
a person, then I thought it was an animal.  It was about the size of
a basketball, about 70 yards away.  It was bouncing up and down and
back and forth.  As I got closer - I realized that the halucinations
had begun.  I was actually surprised - because after almost 3 hours of
nothing - I was hallucinating.  I looked up at the stars - and saw some
really amazing psychedelic patterns twisting and gyrating among the
clounds.  It wasn't anything like acid/shrooms - everything was just a
dull white (no colors at all with eyes open) but it was still very
cool.  Also it was different because occasionally I would just see big
flashes like a strobe light.  The best thing was the way the patterns
worked their way into the clouds - I'd never seen anything quite like it -
I would see the wild geometric patters flying around - then all of a sudden
the would go INTO a cloud - and the cloud would start glowing!  And then
the cloud would burst and all the zig zags would come flying out of it
again.

After a while, I went back and layed in my bed.  I could see colorful
paterns with my eyes closed - but not when open.  The colors were only
simple red, yellow, green, and blue's, and the line patterns were
not too complex.  One cool thing that I could do was concentrate on
some object, for example a soda can - and I could see that object perfectly
clearly - and I would see my hands (this is all with eyes closed) and could
move the object around - I thought that was cool.  Then I actually heard
a woman's voice - I knew it was just in my head - but I she seemed to
have a mind of her own.  I talked to her - and she came up with these
funny respones out of no where - it made me laugh.  Eventually all of
the effects went away - but I could not fall asleep.  I did not fall
asleep till around 5 AM.

Overall, I would say its worth trying once, definitely different.  It doesn't
have that "deep thought" thing thats going on with acid/shrooms which is
kind of refreshing in a way, makes it more recreational and less spiritual.

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From: [e-mail] (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: marezine : cylizine hydrochloride
Date: 14 May 1994 15:29:58 GMT
Message-ID: <2r2qpm$[e-mail]>

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Peter Dilley) says:
>
>marezine for a one time or possibly short term recreational use has come
>to my attention.
>
>is the active ingredient, cylizine hydrochloride, which i presume is the
>psychoactive substance, listed in any depth in nonprescription drug
>encyclopedias? How is it classified? Does it show up in recreational
>books such as PIHKAL? Is it a tryptamine?
>
>the inactive ingredients in the 50mg tablets are corn and potato starch,
>dextrin, lactose, and magnesium stearate. I am assuming the later is for
>anti spoilage and the rest for building the bulk of the tablet.
>
>the adult prescribed rate of injestion is 1 tablet every 4 to 6 hours,
>not to exceed 4 tablets every 24 hours. what does the recreational
>community use it [amount] : 4 tablets on empty stomach? at what level for
>180-200 pound individuals, or 200-220 pound individuals or 160-180 pound
>individuals. Is the only side effect a supposedly psychedelic effect?
>
>please e-mail me any information that you might have to share on this.
>
>oh, what would this be classified as. Mild psychedelic as in THC
>[cannabis] or Major psychedelic [LSD-25, 'Shrooms (Psilocybin/Psilocin)]
>Or a little over mild, a little under major, or middle?

Well, I'm a 160 pound individual and I took 9 of the tablets (the box
contains 12, If I remember correctly).  It had some hallucinogenic
properties (lights seemed brighter, shadows moved around) but
nowhere near as good as LSD.  My thoughts were a little abnormal,
but again, it wasn't as interesting as LSD.  However, the side-effects
were quite disquieting.  My eyes became very dry it seemed, and I
had to blink often, so even when I saw something cool, I couldn't
concentrate on it.  The drug also made me very lethargic at first, and
I wasn't sure whether I was going to pass out or not.  This tired feeling
lasted for most of the "trip", and I would wonder into semi-sleep states
where I had something resembling dreams until I understood that I
was falling asleep and snapped out of it.  This scared me as I didn't
know whether I had overdosed and this was serious, or whether it
was just a normal side-effect.  Anyway, I didn't like almost losing
consciousness.  Finally, after about 3 or 4 hours, I tried to go to sleep.
I felt tired, but could not fall asleep.  After a while, I started to have
slight muscle spasms in my right arm which occurred whenever I
didn't move for a few moments (definately not conducive to sleeping).
By now I definately wanted the effects to go away.  What I'm saying
is that Marezine provided some interesting visuals, greater than
Marijuana, but not as beautiful or interesting as LSD/shrooms, but
the side-effects were definately not worth it.  If you think you might be
into this type of thing, you might as well bang your head against a
brick wall until you start seeing spots or somehting; that's about the
level of enjoyment I received from it.  Stick to LSD if you can, if not,
get a Robo buzz, but I for one do not recommend Marezine unless
you actually do take it for motion sickness.

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From: George Tatarsky <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Dramamine question
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 01:20:17 -0500
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>

[e-mail] <[e-mail]> writes:

>I remember reading in the Natural Highs FAQ that high doses of Dramamine can be
>extremely dangerous...however I was recently told that if you take one whole
>box of Dramamine, that's 12 tablets, it's a major mind fuck...anyone have any
>more info about this, is 12 tablets lethal or severely dangerous, anyone tried
>it, etc.?  Thanks...

I believe the active ingredient in Dramamine is 50mg of dimenhydrinate.
Check out:  Gardner et all. Dimenhydrinate abuse among adolescents.
            Canadian J. Psychiatry 1993; 38:113-116
To summarize, several cases are described where teens typically took 5-15
tablets (250-750 mg) at a time habitually for a year or more. The patients
were described as chrnically depressed and amotivated. Symptoms
"remitted with successful treatment of dimenhydrinate abuse". Based on
this paper abusing this OTC antihistamine appears remarkably safe.
I've taken 100 mg at a time and get a pretty strong, low quality, low euphoria,
"scrambled" type buzz which comes on at 45-60 minutes and is completely gone
at 150 minutes. You build up a tolerance very rapidly. This stuff would not
be the drug of choice for anyone with access to alcohol, weed, benzos, etc.
Maybe taking 500mg produces a better quality experience.

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From: [e-mail] (Shadowhead)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mazarine (motion Sickness pills)
Date: 13 Dec 1994 08:25:57 GMT
Message-ID: <3cjlql$[e-mail]>

[quoted text deleted -cak]

I did not find the drug as pleasant. My friends and I each ate an entire
box (12 or 16 tablets). We did not have a good sense of balance and we
felt delirious. Sort of stoned and tipsy but not in a pleasant way. Also
we could not communicate verbally. I don't know if it was because our
hearing or our speech was fucked up, but everything sounded like mumbles.
We actually had to sit down and write messages to each other to
communicate effectively. We had to pee every 10 minutes. When we finally
came down after about 6 hours, our bodies went into shut down mode. The
entire next day we were all dragging ass. It seemed our bodies were very
pissed off that we attempted to poison them. I recommend this drug about
as much as I recommend nutmeg.

-shady-

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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: marizene
Date: Fri,  9 Dec 94 13:47:32 GMT
Message-ID: <3caqbr$[e-mail]>

 woah... i took some marizene after reading the post and.. oh
my gods, it was -wacky-! whoever posted said he took 16.. i only
took 6. here's what happened -
 the effects began in 2 hours (while i was driving). initially,
only emotional effects ensued, very similar to those produced by
lsd - mood swing in the upward direction, and general lack of
concern for reality. a couple hours later i had auditory hallucinations,
including hearing things and an increase in the pleasure of music.
at night i was very tired, so i went to sleep (i took them around 3pm,
went to sleep around 10, but i usually go to bed around 4am). the
next morning, i had only visual hallucinations - exactly like acid.
i havent taken enough acid yet to hallucinate alot, but i've seen
trails and faces take feline qualities - same as marizene. around 11am
it was over.
 anyway, i can only describe it as wacky, and for anyone who missed the
related post.. you can get it at any drug store next to dramamine,
and it comes in a multicolored box with a huge psychedelic spiral
on it.

    peace, love, anarchy...

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From: [e-mail] (GANJA DiGEST [WRiTER])
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: DRAMAMINE [READ!]
Date: 7 Jan 1995 05:07:41 GMT
Message-ID: <3el7it$[e-mail]>

    Hello all, I would like to talk to everyone about a story..
            The Camp Experience of Dramamine.

    It was this summer, and I was at summer camp, I am mentally
addicted to pot, and have an addiction to speed.  Anyways, i went to this
christian camp in misourri (Kanakuk?anyone heard of it before?)  Anyways,
I went there and for about 3 weeks, I was sober, I started getting used
to being sober and learning to handle it, but one day I just kinda bugged
out and wanted some drugs.  I had always heard that if I took 12
Dramamine I would trip, I had never tripped before this experience..  So
I said what the fuck I 'll pretend to be sick and then I'll sleep in the
nurses office, when they goto bed i'll digest this dramamine.  So I go
in, the nurses say ok you can stay here to night..  I wait till they
sleep, finally I go in and steal the bottle of dramamine and go back to
the room that I was staying in [the infirmery], I popped 12 , waited an
hour and then it didn't do anything, so I popped another  12.. [bad
mistake].. Pretty soon my hand just started to wiggle.  Then about 10
minutes later, the trip stopped being euphoric, and seemed like reality,
I had forgotten that I took the Dramamine, and was completely out of it.
I would go blank and not see anything for like 2 minutes, really freaky.
I went out of the room to go to the nurse's fridge to get a drink, I
looked outside, and god strike me dead a dark tree turned into a man w/a
black overcoat, black beard and a low brimmed black hat walking towards
me, then he turned back into the tree....  I was bugging out so I went
back to the bunk bed and tried to go to sleep.  I was on the bottom bunk
and noone else was on the top, noone else was in the room, suddenly my
friends that I had met at camp [bunk mates] , their heads would swing
down from the top bunk and start talking to me, it seemed so un-euphoric
and real that I started talking back to them and they'd go away and i'd
get really frusturated, I don't remember what happened after that.  The
next thing I remember was waking up and not being able to walk straight,
I was shaking heavily all over my body.  The nurse said good morning and
gave me a cup of orange juice, not knowing I was fucked up, then suddenly
I started shaking so much that the oj spilled all over me..   I forget
what happened next, next thing that I remmeber was I was lying on the
nurses lap in a big blazer and I didn't know where I was or where I was
going.  The next thing I remember was being in the emergency room in a
hospital..  They stuck an iv in me and I was totally out of it, they gave
me drug tests, and luckily the three weeks that I'd been in camp took out
all of the pot and speed in my urine, probably from drinking so much
water b/c of the heat.  When the doctor was talking to someone in the
next room, I could have sworn he was talking to my sister, I actually
thought my sister was here, she was crying.  The doctor said 'I have
found large quantities of thc in jeffrey's urine' but he really didn't
say this nor was my sister there.  Then this was real: The doctor was on
the phone w/my dad and said that I had a 'acute psychosis' and should be
admitted to the 'Springfield, Missouri psychiatric ward'!!  My dad
refused and said he'll come pick me up.
They shot me up w/ some shit andI left and they took me to mcdonalds,
there I sat down, went to tie my
shoelace but instead went for the nurse's sitting next to me and tied her
shoe!, then I took my straw and put it in her drink.  We wen't back to
camp and they called my dad.  My dad flew in immediatly to pick me up.
While i was waiting for my dad the dramamine wore off except for one
thing new, I was itching uncontrollably all over my back, so I ripped off
my shirt and looked to see what was itching me, I thought I had spiders
crawling all over me, but there was nothing, just bad itching.  My dad
picked me up and I was fine.  I will never forget those two crazy, scary,
and insane days of my life.

    Does anyone know what happened that night, If possible could some
one give me a detailed discription of what happened.  And if anyone had a
similar experience or whoever has tried Dramamine, tell me what thier
experience was like.  Could someone please write me private or here and
tell me what went on, I have yet to know.  Till this day , noone knows
what happened to me that day, they think i had a nervous breakdown.

    WRITE BACK PHULEAZE!!

    .. The Rainbow Father ..

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From: [e-mail] (Andrew Gerweck)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marezine and Dramamine
Date: 19 Jan 1995 02:55:11 -0700
Message-ID: <3flctv$[e-mail]>

[quoted text deleted -cak]

I used Marezine a couple of weeks ago... pretty damn wierd.  I took 12 of
them (1 box) and a little later felt a little wierd.  I could see mild
hallucinations in the wall I spent some time staring at (although they
were mild enough that they could've been imagined).  I was stuck in an
unchanging room the whole time, so I didn't see much, but later when I
finally got to leave toward the end of the trip, I saw about 10 imaginary
people walking down the street, they would disappear as the bus I was on
got closer.  Pretty Wierd Stuff!  The next day I felt pretty sick, but it
wasn't too bad.  I'd like to try the stuff again sometime (maybe) and
take 16 or so.

--
        Andrew Gerweck | "White collar conservative flashing down the street,
[e-mail] |  pointing their plastic finger at me."   - Hendrix

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From: [e-mail] (Muse)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marezine and Dramamine
Date: 22 Jan 1995 00:41:29 GMT
Message-ID: <3fs9jp$[e-mail]>

Although I may try it again ("Slipping into insanity is good for the
comparison"), Marezine was not a very fun drug. Lot of gravity distortions.
In the opposite way of DXM. I felt very incredible heavy. Every part of me.
Got off balance a lot. Walking though Borders book store when it hit me.
After I sat down it was so hard to stand up, my body felt so heavy. Then I
went crazy. Here's the rest of the description that I wrote sometime after
it had happened. The dosage is 12 of the marezine tablets. I tried to write
during the experience, but my train of thought was so interupted by the drug
even a sentence was too long to keep in my mind to write it down.

                                       # # #

to slip into insanity is a very scary thing. i was sitting on the street.
waiting for rene to get out of class. talking to my bag. convinced. thinking
it was ben. seeing things not there. people. talking to them. like the other
wingnuts on the street. sense of balance gone. intense gravity feeling
everywhere. had to balance carefully. to not fall over. no thought. jump.
concentration. lost. talking and making no sense to rene. i keep thinking
rene is ben. and all these other people. why do i keep talking to them when
i know theyre not there. the most frustrating part. knowing youre crazy. and
not being able to stop yourself. i am incoherent. know it. cant. walking the
streets before it starts. it begins. i try to write. i look now. so hard to
read. no sense. logic. then. next few days. never quite back. next morning.
still things. at work. watching my hands hit the keys. every day it lessens.
but that fear. of never coming back. going out there. insane. on marezine.

                                        # # #

--
Trevor Lohrbeer, Muse

URL: http://astro.ocis.temple.edu/~lohrbt/

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From: [e-mail] (Kyle Leiker)
Newsgroups: rec.drugs.psychedelic
Subject: Re: marezine (cyclizine hydrochloride)
Date: 26 Jul 1995 23:54:38 GMT
Message-ID: <3v6kju$[e-mail]>

Bill Newcomb ([e-mail]) wrote:

: Dramamine is similar, if perhaps even less pleasant. I did it three
: times, and after the start of the effects in the later two times I
: found myself asking myself, "Why in hell did I do this again?" Vivid
: hallucinations, but not of anything pleasant, like bugs and shit.
: There was also a "feel" to it--out of focus, muffled, papery. I know
: it sounds kind of interesting, but it just isn't. Not recommended.

I've a similar, though slightly more positive, view of dramamine.
Regardless, if you want to do it, do it cheaply.  The chemical in OTC
motion sickness pills is either diphenhydramine or diphenhydrenate.
Diphenhydramine produces a more marked, rapid effect.  Diphenhydrenate
was developed to avoid these effects, but still have the H2 effects.
Diphenhydramine happens to be in not only Dramamine, but most OTC
sleeping pills and Benadryl.  Yes, Benadryl.  So if you're going to
do this, buy some generic benadryl tabs and try not to fall asleep.


--
kyle w leiker            "the only good policeman is a dead one."
beloit college
[e-mail]            (from big black's "steelworker")

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From: [e-mail] (jacob ekler)
Newsgroups: rec.drugs.psychedelic
Subject: Dramamine
Date: 18 Oct 1995 15:25:00 -0400
Message-ID: <463kav$[e-mail]>

What is the general consensus on Dramamine among you educated people?
What are the active ingredients?

I suppose I wasn't very intelligent to take 20 Dramamines (50 mg each) on my
first time doing it, without knowing the active ingredients, and on a night when
I had to be home by 12. It seems to be a somewhat popular thing around here, and
on the night I did it there were at least 5 others who did it too. Has anyone
out there done it, or does anyone know anything about it, such as active
ingredients, side effects, descriptions of trips, etc.? I was out all night,
can't remember 99% of what happened, got poison ivy somehow, jumped into a
river, lost my wallet, and was in intensive care for a night. I guess it's not a
good idea to try to walk home while on the stuff. I suppose I took a little bit
of a detour that delayed me 10 hours...

Please post any and all information you have. I'm sure you can understand why I
would want to know as much as possible about it, since it caused a whole lot of
problems for me, and fucked up my summer. I don't blame the drug, just my
ignorance, or carelessness/recklessness. It was the first drugs I ever did other
than marijuana and alcohol... so, post.

myxsoma