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- This is a message I wrote to Carson Wilson on Lillipute Z-Node and
- wanted to share with the general CP/M public regarding his new
- program FILEDATE which I am testing, and which will be released, I
- believe, when the new NZCOM/Z3PLUS BDOS'es ZDDOS and ZSDOS are
- available. FILEDATE is a directory utility with full datestamping
- support with an incredible number of command-line options that give
- the user the ability to sort by date in ascending or descending
- order, display only those files created (or accessed) on a certain
- day, etc. etc. It's an excellent program the likes of which the
- CP/M-compatible world has not previously had. Those with
- datestamping have a great deal to look forward to when the program
- is released.
-
- - Rick Charnes, June 3, 1988
-
-
- Carson, it is absolutely extraordinary. FDATE, that is. Until I
- logged on here two days ago and got your message I hadn't used it at
- all. Based on our phone call a few weeks ago I was under the
- impression that it wouldn't work on my Z8D3 system. I _thought_ I
- remember you saying that when we had talked and therefore was just
- waiting till the new DOS was available. When I got your message
- telling me about SAP, etc. though, I immediately went through the
- FDATE documentation and gave it a spin ... it's quite, quite
- marvelous. I have wanted a program like this for some time, thought
- I was the only person to have such a desire (never heard anyone
- talking about it!) and am now pleased as punch at what you have
- created. The incredible number and variety of command line options
- gives it a flexibility and power I hadn't even dreamed of.
-
- I mean, Jeez - I've been playing around a bit in the MS-DOS public
- domain and haven't found anything that can match this. I would have
- to say that with FDATE, DATSWEEP, (UN)CR23D, Jay's new DateStamper-
- supporting ARUNZ09M which I'm beta-testing (which with its
- DateStamper-based parameterization is breathtaking in the fineness
- of what a user can do), SAVSTAMP, LBREXT26, LPUT15A, and many, many
- more (I know I'm leaving out a whole slew) along with DateStamper
- and Z80DOS generally we are fast approaching the point where we can
- quite honestly and simply say that our datestamping is superior to
- DOS's. I have been mulling over in my head how this seemingly
- puzzling state of affairs -- that the datestamping of an obviously
- antiquated and useless operating system is superior to that of the
- popular OS -- can have come about.
-
- I have been tickled by the notion that it may be due, rather
- ironically, to the very fact that the DOSers have long taken
- datestamping for granted and have assumed that no improvement is
- necessary over what they have. We, on the other hand, have had to
- work (very hard!) for it, and consequently have had to develop it by
- getting dirt between our fingernails. We have made virtue out of
- necessity -- in the good, rather than sour grapes, sense. We have
- had a number of superb programmer visionaries at work at it,
- constantly updating, refining, receiving and manifesting new ideas
- ...
-
- For instance, the fact that MS-DOS has no way of keeping track of a
- word-processed file's date of creation -- but more importantly **
- that no one has ever *thought* to write the simple SAVSTAMP-like
- tool to do this ** -- has always been mind-boggling to me. My
- theory is simply that they have 1) taken datestamping for granted,
- and 2) noticed that the DOS 'DIR' command just doesn't do it, ergo:
- a "c'est la vie" attitude --- and the idea just doesn't come to them.
- To those to whom I mention it the response is invariably, "Huh!
- That's a good idea. I guess no one just ever thought of doing it."
- Yeah.
-
- We, on the other hand, all come as fresh-faced brash innocents to
- this brave new datestamping world and are full of questions and
- excitement and quite impossible ideas, and are able to look at it --
- and therefore program it -- in a new way. Soon those impossible
- ideas somehow become reality...
-
- Anyway, FDATE is superb. I've been using it for an hour or two with
- no glitches. The ability to specify all files created or accessed
- today is something that I have long yearned for. Adding to this its
- ability to specify a date, sorting by date.... the list is endless.
- It takes a bit of getting used to, but I can see how displaying the
- date field as "..." if it equals the current or specified date/time
- is going to be very handy. The help file is very nicely done as
- well. You are to be greatly commended for a superb piece of work,
- and those using DateStamper-type stamps on their system have a great
- deal to look forward to when the new DOSes come out.
-
- As always, thanks for your continuing contributions.