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- These messages were captured from Telenet PC-Pursuit NET-EXCHANGE BBS...
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- Msg # 6028 Dated 02-27-88 21:48:34
- From: MICHAEL MURRAY
- To: ALL
- Re: LOOKS LIKE A HACKER
-
- I've encountered a certain situation twice in the past week that leaves
- me with a few questions. Upon connecting to my Telenet indial node, in
- between attempts to connect to either a Telenet service or outdial
- modem, I've gotten the following message:
- CONNECTION FROM 301 18A
-
- The first time this happened, whoever was on the other end began typing
- several obscenities. Tonight when this happened, the person attempted
- to generate a false "@" prompt. Whoever was doing this was trying to
- lure me into typing in my PCP acct and password. Sure enough, when I fed
- the prompt a made-up acct, hit return...I got back what I know was a
- misleading prompt.
-
- I don't think my acct/pw got to him/her, but it scares me that someone
- can make such a connection. I called up the Telenet service number to
- report this, but all I was told is that nothing can be done except to
- change the password, at MY expense. Anybody else have this happen to
- them?
-
- Mike
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- Msg # 6057 Dated 02-28-88 09:47:49
- From: IMA HACKER-
- To: ALL
- Re: IMPORTANT
-
- The *PCP HACKERS* are working to show PCP what we think of their awful
- service and policies. We have been STEALING PCP IDs and PWs and using
- them. We can HACK into TELENET and connect to your indial modem without
- you even knowing it. Then we watch you hammer at a distant modem with
- those dialing scripts and it fills our screen with your pw and id. You
- don't see your pw but *WE DO* and we have hundreds of PCP IDs and PWs.
- Your TELENET *CONTRACT* makes YOU responsible for all charges to your
- ID, and PCP just sent out bills from back in September! We want more
- outdial modems and less BUSY. We want responsive Customer Service. We
- want a realistic CONTRACT, 300 and 2400 baud. SCREW PCP until then!!!
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- Msg # 6062 Dated 02-28-88 12:59:42
- From: TONY WADDELL
- To: IMA HACKER-
- Re: (R)IMPORTANT
-
- I don't know if message #6057 is for real or not ( I find some of the
- claims hard to believe ), but perhaps PC-Pursuit should make it just a
- little easier for users to change their passwords. I understand it's
- quite a nose bleed to get one changed.
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- Msg # 6072 Dated 02-27-88 15:45:04
- From: LEE RIMAR
- To: TOM WADDELL
- Re: PASSWORD CHANGES
-
- TW> I don't know if message #6057 is for real or not (I find some of
- TW> the claims hard to believe) . . .
- (regarding a message on "hacking" PC-Pursuit)
- .
- I just called Customer Service and expressed concern about it.
- Unfortunately, they say it's entirely possible. And that they're
- working on the problem.
- .
- TW> Perhaps PC-Pursuit should make it just a little easier for users
- TW> to change their passwords. I understand it's quite a nose bleed
- TW> to get one changed.
- .
- That was not my experience. I changed mine last Monday. Took
- less than 10 minutes on the phone (the 1-800-TELENET number), and
- the new id/password was in effect immediately.
- .LDR
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- Msg # 6073 Dated 02-27-88 15:46:13
- From: LEE RIMAR
- To: IMA HACKER
- Re: YOUR INTENTIONS
-
- You claim your aim is to get better customer service from Telenet,
- more modems, et al. Has it ever occured to you that your "screw the
- system" attitude may be causing more trouble than it solves? Screwing
- up Telenet's ability to provide service seems unlikely to result in
- better service.
- That's always struck me as an argument against violent revolts;
- from socialist to anarchist. Patterned after my comment above:
- Blowing up a rich man's house does not put a roof over a poor man's
- head. See you in the Issues area if you care to debate it.
- .LDR
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- Msg # 6074 Dated 02-27-88 16:04:02
- From: JAMES NORTH
- To: ALL
- Re: ID PASSWORD SNACTCHING
-
- If password pirates are able to steal PC Pursuit ids and passwords,then
- it is possible for them to steal the ids and passwords of business
- users that use the Telenet network. Such stolen ids and passwords would
- enable such pirates to make illegal international data calls at someone
- else's expense. THE ENTIRE TELENET PACKET SWITCHING NETWORK MAY BE IN
- DANGER! If this is true, hopefully there is someway that Telenet can
- correct this security problem. We could see the termination of the PC
- Pursuit service because of this!
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- Msg # 6076 Dated 02-27-88 16:21:29
- From: BOB FREED
- To: TONY WADDELL
- Re: (R)IMPORTANT
-
- Re: 6057, 6062
-
- It's for real. I've gotten a new user id and two new passwords in the
- past two weeks because of this situation. It's not true that these
- jokers can intercept your session completely undetected, though. If
- you see a message such as "CONNECTION FROM xxx yyy", disconnect
- immediately or contact customer service on a second line.
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- Msg # 6077 Dated 02-27-88 16:28:08
- From: BOB FREED
- To: IMA HACKER-
- Re: (R)IMPORTANT
-
- Re: 6057
-
- As I see it, the only thing you're accomplishing is to destroy this
- system completely. I'm sure we won't see any of the things you
- mentioned (more outdial modems, less BUSY, responsive service, better
- contract, 300 and 2400 bps) any sooner if Telenet has to spend
- considerable time and effort plugging leaks in their security. In fact,
- we may never see them at all. Here's hoping they catch you soon....
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