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Archive-name: mpeg-faq/part6 Last-modified: 1994/08/22 Version: v 3.2 94/08/22 Posting-Frequency: bimonthly BEGIN -------------------- CUT HERE --------------------- 6/6 Site: merlin.etsu.edu [192.43.199.20] Site: mm-ftp.cs.berkeley.edu [128.32.149.157] Dir : /pub/multimedia/mpeg Site: nic.funet.fi [128.214.6.100] Site: oak.oakland.edu Site: phoenix.oulu.fi [130.231.240.17] Site: pinus.slu.se (130.238.98.11) Dir : /pub/graphics/mpeg Site: sumex-aim.stanford.edu Dir : /info-mac/app Site: suniams1.statistik.tu-muenchen.de [131.159.64.1] Dir : /pub/mac/MPEG/encoder/... Site: sunsite.unc.edu Dir : pub/electronic-publications/IUMA Site: wuarchive.wustl.edu [128.252.135.4] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- VI.2 | ------- Bryan Woodworth <bryanw@rahul.net> invites you to the ftp-server: ftp.rahul.net (192.160.13.1) in /pub/bryanw/pc/mpeg Login as "anonymous," any time of the day or night. [ Several MPEG-Information is located in the directory /pub/bryanw ] ear Bryan was the first one, that downloaded the brand new mpeg-player ] [ from Xing's BBS and posted it to a.b.p.u, thnx to Bryan ! ] He wrote: If the people have problems connecting, they should send a capture of the session to "support@rahul.net," so that the problem can be corrected. and wrote: If people want to know where they can find the Microsoft Windows MPEG player(s), DOS players, Amiga players, X Windows, VMS, and Macintosh players, they could cd to: /pub/bryanw/information and retrieve: WHERE.TO.GET.MPEG.PLAYERS This file is posted biweekly to alt.binaries.pictures.* The information subdirectory also contains an ABPE faq, this MPEG faq :-), JPEG information, information on X-windows on PCs, and I suppose that is all.. If I ever find good stuff, I put it here. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- VI.3 | ACCESSING AMINET ------------------------ There are many other ways than FTP to access AmiNet: - ADT. This is a front end for FTP that allows easy access to AmiNet. Get it from comm/misc/ and compile it on your UNIX box. - FSP. AmiNet Files can be downloaded from the FSP site disun3.epfl.ch port 9999. Uploads are accepted and forwarded. - NFS. The only AmiNet site that allows NFS mounting of the archives is wuarchive.wust.edu. FTP there and read the details in the /README.NFS - IRC. On Internet Relay Chat, you can talk to various server robots like AmiBot, MerBot or Mama, to do queries and retrievals. - Gopher. There is a gopher server for AmiNet at merlin.etsu.edu. To connect, use the command 'gopher merlin.etsu.edu'. - Modem. In Germany, you can download the AmiNet files from the Incubus BBS, telephone number 0931 781464. The login is 'ftp', password 'ftp'. - Usenet. A list of recent uploads is posted every week to the newsgroups comp.sys.amiga.misc and de.comp.sys.amiga.misc. Useful for mail servers. - Mailserver. Sorry, no specialized e-mail server for AmiNet yet. But you can use ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com. Send a mail with HELP in the body. - CD-ROM. AmiNet is available on CD-ROM. Talk to info@cdrom.com, or write to Walnut Creek CDROM, 1547 Palos Verdes Mall, Walnut Creek CA 94596, USA or phone 1 800 786 9907, +1 510 674 0783 or +1 510 674 0821 (FAX) ===== ny : _____________________________________ Adress : _____________________________________ Town : _____________________________________ Post code : _____________________________________ Country : _____________________________________ Fon : _____________________________________ Fax : _____________________________________ E-mail : _____________________________________ Enter here the number of CD-Rom's you want (defaults to 1): ( ) number of CD-Rom's I received information about the TRAILPACK-CD from: ( ) the Usenet ( ) Compuserve ( ) a Ftp-site, host-name : __________________________ ( ) a Mail-Box, name : __________________________ Fon : __________________________ ( ) a friend ( ) a college I intend to use the TRAILPACK-CD for commercial purpose with the following description: ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- ========================================================= AGREEMENT: By signing this paragraph you agree, that you will not copy the complete TRAILPACK-CD or bigger parts of it to more than ONE computer nor publish it or bigger parts of it to any network or other public service, mailbox or other storage medias, like floppy-disk, CD's, MO-disks or tapes for redistributing purpose. You agree, that if you use the TRAILPACK-CD for commercial or any public use, the archives or a copy of the CD-Rom will remain complete, including all Copyright- and Readme-notices and if you make this CD-Rom available to the public, that ALL files will be accessable by the public. The use of single files or small parts to whatever purpose is hereby granted. The commercial use of this package is only allowed, if the kind of commercial use is reported to PHADE Software. This agreement does not touch any other regulations by the authors of the programs in this archive. ============= ====================================== (date) ^-- sign here ====================== cut here cut here cut here ======================= --------------------------------------------------------------------------- VII.2 | CONVERSION ------------------- PHADE Software is offering a video-conversion-service ! A conversion of 1 MB video (GL,DL,MPEG,AVI,DIB-seq, e.g.) to one or the other format cost currently 30DM (20$). Over 10 MB gets then really cheap only 15DM (10$). Audio conversion is possible too (AVI, WAV, AU) and costs the half of the video-price (but is included if there is a video-conversion). Please send any jobs or commercial mail to 'phade@contrib.de' --------------------------------------------------------------------------- VII.3 | FTP-MAIL ----------------- FTPMAIL, obtaining files from a server via email which does the ftping for you, is not the best way to obtain files via ftp, but for some it is the only way. To get more information, send email to one of the servers below with the word HELP in the message body. In North America: Internet: ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com BITNET : bitftp@pucc.princeton.edu or BITFTP@PUCC In Europe: ftpmail@grasp.insa-lyon.fr =========================================================================== VIII | RETRIEVED MAIL ======================= [ About what Xing is messing up again ... ] Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 12:20:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jared V Boone <jboone@patriot.wtfd.orst.edu> Subject: Re: MPEG decoder... Unfortunately, my program DOES NOT decode in real time. But then, Xing's program cheats. It does not decode the entire file, but plays the lower half of the subbands and only one channel of a stereo pair. My program will decode the whole thing, but there's a price to be paid. Decoding 'together.mp2' takes approximately 797 seconds on a Intel 486DX2-66 Windows NT/Visual C++ PC, and 1152 seconds on a Intel 486DX2-66 NetBSD/GCC V2.4 UNIX system. So I guess that's about 3-5 times slower than necessary for real-time playback. I've got some tricks I want to try, but they'll involve a lot of code modification. I also don't think they'll make THAT much difference. We may be asking these processors to do more than they can. I'll keep you posted... Jared Boone (jboone@patriot.wtfd.orst.edu) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ As of 1/1/94, a little bird told me... ] Aware Inc. is considering making demo versions of their high quality MPEG audio players/converters for Macs and SGIs available on the IUMA. -IUMA staff --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ And another little bird... ] From: mwilliam@envy.Reed.Edu (Son of Sam) Subject: Quicktime WITH MPEG Date: 24 Mar 1994 09:07:39 GMT I read a press release for Quicktime 2.3 (due to developers this month :) and Apple claims that with this new version of their extension one can get 15 fps at 640 x 480 on an LC 475! and Full motion (30 fps) at the next screen size down.... That's decent for a low horsepower machine. Whether or not this proves itself in practice, we'll see... But the real point of this post revolves around apple's announcement that QT2.3 incorporates MPEG technology... That's right, now, instead of needing to convert MPEG to QT, Macs will be MPEG savvy. It also mentions that you'll be able to encode MPEG's (with sound) with your Mac... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ And here the biggest bird, gulp ... ] From: cfogg@netcom.com (Chad Fogg) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 18:05:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199404210105.SAA14372@mail.netcom.com> Subject: Re: MPEGFAQ31: call for papers The MPEG Software Simulation Group, a development effort comprised of MPEG committee participants, will soon release both an encoder and decoder for MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 video. Principle contributors of the MPEG-2 S/W are: Stefan Eckart (Univ. Munich), Chad Fogg (Xenon Microsystems), and Cheung Auyeung (Motorola). Systems software will be included at a later date. Also, the Committee Draft of ISO/IEC 11172-5 (Part 5) containing software of MPEG-1 Systems, Video, and Audio will be presented in May 1994. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: optimg!james@uunet.UU.NET (James W. Shoemaker) [ He, that's Optibase' e-mail adress ! ] Date: Mon, 22 Nov 93 09:59:37 CST Subject: Re: MPEG realtime Encoder card shippin We have a Real-Time full SIF MPEG encoding board from Optivision. The board can only do I and P frames now, but B frames will be supplied once new Microcode is available from C-Cube. How much is the Encoder board ? Probably very expensive.. ? The streams from this board have a few artifacts, but over-all look quite good. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cave Newt" <roe2@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 15 May 93 23:15:51 CDT Subject: Re: THE MPEG-FAQ - Version 2.0 - Part [2/3] >mpegplay.zip 97028 Full-screen 320x200 MPEG animation player >in pub/os2/2.x/graphics. > >[ Would be nice, if somebody could test this, and post some results. ] I did so; I've never seen/used any other MPEG viewer, however, so I have nothing with which to compare it. Nevertheless... On a 25MHz 386 running OS/2 2.0 GA+SP, and an ATI GUP with the 16-bit (slow) beta drivers, it displays roughly two frames per second in default mode on an actual movie posted to a.b.p.misc ("fan_bulb.mpg"). On the index20.mpg, it managed two to three frames per second; processing the whole file took exactly 15 seconds, of which about 2 seconds was initialization (before any display). The "-dither gray" option speeds things up by perhaps 50%. It's a port of "the Unix MPEG player," by which I assume the author is referring to the Berkeley software-only decoder. It gets the job done, I guess...I have yet to try any of the "standard" mpegs in the Berkeley collection. Greg Roelofs --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Morten Hjerde <100034.663@compuserve.com> Date: 17 Sep 93 13:08:21 EDT Subject: Re: MPEG-FAQ Audio-part ? The people I know is working on MPEG is Philips/Compression Labs for their "digital video" CD-I's. Digigram in France is producing some nice MPEG cards for the PC. You would want to avoid their older PCX3 cards because their MPEG implementation were a little odd. Their new PCX5 and PCX3 should be fine. Cardinal are introducing an MPEG driver for their new PC card. The driver has not been released. It's developed by Xing. I've played around with earlier Xing MPEG Audio stuff and it looked and sounded nice. C-Cube also have written an MPEG codec (for the AD2015 I believe). I don't know if they are doing anything with it. For broadcast industry use there are several others, also a couple of German vendors that makes stand-alone units. I don't have their names here. Here in Norway Tandberg are making a logger w. MPEG compression. (I have no connection to any of the above) Source code? I was hoping you could tell me that <g>. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kothary@mprgate.mpr.ca Subject: Optibase Date: Wed, 06 Oct 93 16:12:22 PDT I recently bought the Optibase PCMotion Player. This is the real time MPEG 1 decompressor. I have only tested it with a couple of clips so far but it seems to work very well. The decoded picture is the best I have seen so far. There are very few artifacts. The two clips I have tested to date are tigers.mps ( a system level stream they included with the board) and starwars.mpg (an older video level clip I had sitting around.) The tigers clip was very good while the Star Wars was not nearly as good. I don't know if this reflects advances in encoder technology or that Optibase does some funny stuff with their files. The board was very easy to install and ran pretty much the first time. The only problems I had with the company are that they are very difficult to contact and seem to be understaffed. I constantly hear the excuse that Mr X has not been able to contact me because he is very busy since he is on N different projects. Also they seem to be a funny company in that their employees seem to continually shift between their Isreal and two US offices. As you can imagine, it is very difficult to contact people who constantly change continents! The other big problem with the board is that it can only take data in through the ISA bus. It is not clear how to use this sort of card in a network unless one is willing to dedicate the entire PC to just one application. The bus on my PC seems quite full when I use this card. I think using either a T1, MVIP, SCSI, etc interface might make a more usuable card. Overall, for the kind of money they want, it seems to be a worthwhile board except the utility is limited to evaluation of MPEG and some composing rather than watching actual movies since networking is weak. =========================================================================== IX | ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ============================ [ Well, there are lots of MPEG-related papers at Berkeley's ftp-server. ] From: Larry Rowe <larry@plateau.cs.Berkeley.EDU> Subject: mpeg to ppm Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:39:36 -0800 o papers/94MMComputing.ps.Z - copies of slides from a highlight talk at the UC Berkeley Industrial Liason Program on multimedia computing. Main topics: importance of mosaic/www, video-on-demand architectures and problems, and desktop video conferencing. o papers/CMMPEG-SPIE94.ps.Z - A paper describing the heuristics we used to implement synchronized mpeg video and sparc audio playback in the CMPlayer system. o papers/VodsArch-SPIE94.ps.Z - A paper describing the architecture of the the Berkeley Distributed VOD System that is designed to store thousands of hours of video material on tertiary storage devices that can be staged to video file servers. o papers/VodsDB-SPIE94.ps.Z - A paper that describes the metadata database in the Berkeley Distributed VOD System. The database contains a variety of indexes to the video material which a user can query to locate material of interest. o papers/VideoCompression-Usenix94.*.ps.Z - Copies of slides from an invited talk on Video Compression given at Usenix '94 by L. Rowe. The BW file has a black and white version of the slides with 2 to a page, and the Color file a color version with 1 slide to a page. o papers/dv-at-ucb.txt -- A survey of digital video research in the EECS Department at U.C. Berkeley. This article will appear in the 1994 EECS/ERL Research Summary. o papers/compressed.ps.Z o papers/VodsProp93.ps.Z - a revised version of the Berkeley VOD Server proposal first released on August 20, 1993. o papers/VODProp-Rowe.ps.Z -- a rough draft of a proposal to be submitted to NSF to build a video-on-demand system. Novel feature of the system is that it includes a large tertiary storage archive and a metadata database with an ad hoc query browser to search for particular videos. The archive server talks to several video file servers so that an organization can share file servers. o papers/MM93Talk.ps.Z is a copy of the slides used for the talk at the ACM Multimedia 93 conference for the previous paper. The performance numbers comparing the mpeg player on different platforms were updated the week before the conference so they reflect the most recent results. o papers/{Mpeg94.txt,VODarch94.txt,VODdb94.txt} -- abstracts submitted to SPIE '94 that describe recent work on integrating our mpeg video decoder into the CMPlayer and the design of the UCB video-on-demand system. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gandhi@trix18.genie.uottawa.ca (rakeshkumar gandhi ) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 13:14:03 -0500 Subject: IEEE There is MPEG Hardware review in IEEE computer graphics and application magazine. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chad Fogg <cfogg@ole.cdac.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1993 02:02:58 -0700 Subject: Re: MPEG-2 FAQ -- first installment (draft) Q. Is there a book on MPEG compression? A. Yes, there will be a book published in Spring 1994 by the same authors who wrote the JPEG book (Bill Pennebaker, Joan Mitchell) with Didier Le Gall as an additional co-author. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Only for Germans... ] Ihr koennt den MPEG-draft-I beim Beuth Verlag bekommem. =========================================================================== X | WHERE TO FIND MORE INFOS ============================= Well, first you can check the related news-groups: comp.graphics, comp.graphics.animation, comp.compression, comp.multimedia, comp.sys.amiga.multimedia, comp.mail.multi-media, alt.binaries.pictures.utilities The first part of this FAQ about MPEG came from Mark Adler, published in in FAQ for the newsgroup 'comp.compression'. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then you can ask 'archie' to find all NEW mpeg-releated software by sending the following mail (with no title): set search sub prog mpeg mpg quit to one of the following archie-mail-servers: archie@archie.ans.net archie@archie.rutgers.edu archie@archie.sura.net archie@archie.mcgill.ca archie@archie.funet.fi archie@archie.au archie@archie.doc.ic.ac.uk Or look for it with archie on the Internet like this: telnet 128.214.6.102 archie set search sub prog mpeg mpg quit --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then you could look for a newer version of the first part of this FAQ via ftp at: garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1), in /pub/doc-net The current version is named FAQC9301.ZIP --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then get the newest version of this document File: WHERE.TO.GET.MPEG.PLAYERS Site: ftp.rahul.net [192.160.13.1] Dir : /pub/bryanw/pc/mpeg This file is posted biweekly to alt.binaries.pictures.* --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Then you can order information from C-CUBE ] Subject: Announcing C-Cube product information request via E-Mail All requests for general C-Cube product literature should be forwarded to: literature@c-cube.com Requests for specific JPEG or MPEG product information should be forwarded to: jpeg@c-cube.com mpeg@c-cube.com Please include your complete name, address, phone and fax numbers in your request. Thank you. C-Cube Microsystems --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ For audio-related stuff look into the IUMA archive. ] .___ ____ ___ _____ _____ | | | \ \ / _ \ the net's first hi-fi music archive | | | / Y \/ /_\ \ .:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. | | | / | \ | \ The Internet Underground Music Archive |___|______/____|__ /___|__ / bands/music/labels/images/bubbles ===================\/=======\/============================================ How to Use IUMA Last edited 2/2/94 Here are a few pointers about how to make the most efficient use of IUMA and the music on it. You may also wish to peruse the Frequent Asked Questions (FAQ), although it's currently undergoing a complete revision. 8) The first and most important thing to note is that IUMA is best explored and used via World-Wide Web (WWW) clients such as Lynx and NCSA Mosaic. The WWW is a hypertext-based method of purusing the net that is both more intuitive than FTP and Gopher, yet downwards compatible with FTP and Gopher. NCSA Mosaic requires a direct network connection or SLIP to the Internet and versions are available for Xwindows boxes, Macintoshs and Windows PCs. FTP to "ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu" and look in the dir "/Mosiac" for all current versions. Lynx is a very good text-mode WWW browser available as UNIX program that one runs from their UNIX account. As long as "tar" and "uncompress" are not foreign to you, you should have no problems making it work. You can FTP lynx from ftp.wustl.edu in the /packages/www dir. --- The next most important thing to first realize is that all of the music on IUMA comes a few forms: MPEG This is the format of the best stereo copies of the music online. You need a special player to decode the MPEG compression and play the music on your system once it's downloaded. IUMA has a few freely distributable MPEG audio players already available for you to download: XingSound Player for Windows as mpgaudio.zip Tobias Bading's MPEG audio player source as maplay.tar.Z People using this on UNIX workstations (particularly Suns), should take a look at the accompanying textfiles. Aware Corporation has graciously produced a shareware MPEG audio player for the Macintosh which will be availble for distribution in the next few weeks. ADPCM The ADPCM format is probably going to be phased out of being included in IUMA since the quality is not as good as MPEG II. In any case, the files have the extension .WAV and are in the MS-ADPCM format. The program Cool Edit (cool131.zip) can decode and play them on Windows PCs. AU Some (eventually all) bands will have a Sun Audio (au) sample file which is available to download a small 15 second sample of the band before deciding that you wish to download the entire MPEG song. When listening to these note that the Sun Au files are 8bit mono for that full-on compressed midrange AM Radio sound and therefore will sound nothing remotely like the awesome stereo MPEG file. Most machines can understand this format so nothing special should be needed beyond normal audio tools to download and play these files. Player for Macintoshes and Windows PCs can be found on the Internet. If you have any questions please mail ianc@sunsite.unc.edu. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ And the first WWW-server for Fractals, probably coded with MPEG ! ] From: rousself@univ-rennes1.fr ( Frank ROUSSEL ) Subject: * FRACTAL MOVIE ARCHIVE * Date: 21 Mar 1994 21:39:27 GMT Organization: CRI/CICB Universite' de Rennes 1 - FR I'm proud to announce you that a Fractal Movie Archive has been opened at the CNAM of Paris. URL = http://www.cnam.fr/fractals/anim.html You may also have a look at the Fractal Art Gallery too. URL = http://www.cnam.fr/fractals.html NOTE: You can also accede via ftp.cnam.fr:/pub/Fractals --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rousself@univ-rennes1.fr ( Frank ROUSSEL ) Subject: * SPACE MOVIE ARCHIVE * Date: 21 Mar 1994 21:39:52 GMT Organization: CRI/CICB Universite' de Rennes 1 - FR I'm proud to announce you that a Space Movie Archive has been opened at the CRI-CICB of Rennes. It consists of about 90 anims, the biggest archive i know. English URL = http://www.univ-rennes1.fr/ASTRO/anim-e.html French URL = http://www.univ-rennes1.fr/ASTRO/anim-f.html Some new clickable cards (mainly on planets & shuttles) have been added to the astronomy page (images, animations) English URL = http://www.univ-rennes1.fr/ASTRO/astro.english.html French URL = http://www.univ-rennes1.fr/ASTRO/astro.french.html NOTE: You can also accede via ftp.univ-rennes1.fr:/pub/Images/ASTRO, or via gopher.univ-rennes1.fr:/Astro Gopher The IP address is 129.20.254.1 for all. =========================================================================== XI | NEWS ========== News from the CeBit '94 in Hannover: The real sensation is the ReelMagic-Card ! Look above. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- New MPEG VideoCD and CD-I service available ! ============================================= Get your own VideoCD or CD-I done via the service bureau ! We offer you the full service to produce an MPEG VideoCD or a CD-I disk with MPEG full-motion video on it for you. Just provide the video tapes (S-VHS / Hi-8) and get your own VideoCD back, playable on Sigma Design's Reel Magic MPEG card, Amiga CD-32 and Phillips CD-I player. (soon coming out: GOLDSTAR- and JVC- and SAMSUNG-VideoCD players for around 350 US$ enduser price) (In this moment we only offer PAL standard VideoCDs and CD-Is, which also could be played with NTSC players; call for NTSC version) Please call for current rates: ------------------------------ Hartmann Electronics Mr. Dipl. Ing. Stefan Hartmann Berlin, Germany Tel: ++ 49 30 344 23 66 email: harti@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leadtek was showing there DOS-full-screen-MPEG-player. They double the pixel in a tricky way, so they get 640x400 and the quality is really good. They told me, the player (with lots of additional software) is to buy for about $900. The contact address is: Mr. Terry Yeu at Leadtek Research Inc. Computer Graphics, Multimedia Design & Manufacture 5F, NO. 4, Alley 11, Lane 327, Sec. 2, Chung-Shan Rd., Chung-Ho, Taipei Shien, TAIWAN R.O.C. Tel: 886-2-2484101 Ext 113 Fax: 886-2-2484103 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sun has a new version of there 'Multimedia Solutions for Workgroup' out. And (but this is not official), they will support MPEG, but this was not to be seen. =========================================================================== XII | QUESTIONS ================ These are some questions, ideas or whatever problems, where still no solutions is found or nobody knows an answer. Please contact me via e-mail if YOU find a solution for: 1) Interleaving should be the next step in MPEG-development. There free audio- and video-code now. Now we have to synchronize it. Stefan Eckhardt and Simmons bith can split a full-MPEG-stream, but there's no code ! So, who's working on it ? 2) Are there multimedia-specialized mailboxes out there ? Please send a filelisting of your mpeg-archive, a description of how to obtain the files, costs, connection times, telefon-numbers etc. 3) Who can send me informations about MPEG-I-Videos stored on CD-I CD's ? Are there driver or programs that read CD-I CD's with a coumputer CD-ROM-drive to explucde the MPEG-parts ? 4) I'm still looking for some programs, that I cant find anymore. One is called "MPEGVU", the other one "SPRAW", a program to convert real MPEG-stream into Xing-format (well we would really need one, thats doing the other way around). Whos has them ? Who knows more ? 5) I still look for the following streams. I know they exist, but they are NOT online. Who are the authors, where can I ftp them ? dcx-flare.mpg dcx-launch.mpg ferris-sif.mpg football.3mbit.mpg football1-qsif.mpg football1-sif.mpg football2-qsif.mpg football2-sif.mpg football3-qsif.mpg football3-sif.mpg gmsearth.mpg goats.mpg kathy.mpg laputa.mpg mclyte.mpg nlm.mpg pingpong-qsif.mpg pingpong-sif.mpg pingpong-varq2.mpg pingpong-varq3.mpg simulation.mpg tearsforfears.mpg tm-op.mpg tue.world.mpg windmill-qsif.mpg windmill-sif.mpg 6) Who likes to buy the TRAILPACK on CD ? I need about 15 customers buying it, so the production cost come back in. The calculated price will be DM 100.- (or $ 70). Please see below the TRAILPACK- INFO ... Please mail to: phade@cs.tu-berlin.de if you have more information, than I have. =========================================================================== The end of ... THE MPEG-FAQ ==================================================== PHADE SOFTWARE Leibnizstr. 30, 10625 Berlin, GERMANY Inh. Frank Gadegast Fon/Fax: +49 30 3128103 phade@cs.tu-berlin.de =========================================================================== END ---------------------- CUT HERE --------------------- 6/6 ˇ