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- TELECOM Digest Wed, 24 Feb 93 02:59:00 CST Volume 13 : Issue 129
-
- Index To This Issue: Moderator: Patrick A. Townson
-
- Ameritech PCS Trial Update #4 (Andrew C. Green)
- Multi-Line Answering Machines: Summary (Paul E. Hoffman)
- The Moderator's New Employer (Andrew Luebker)
- Novatel Accessory Needed (Joe Smooth)
- Uniden Cell Phone Handset Question (Joe Smooth)
- A Pager For Jughead (Col. G.L. Sicherman)
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-
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 22:36:29 CST
- From: Andrew C. Green <acg@hermes.dlogics.com>
- Reply-To: acg@hermes.dlogics.com
- Subject: Ameritech PCS Trial Update #4
-
-
- Here's a long overdue update on the Ameritech PCS Trial, an test
- involving several hundred ordinary citizens who have been issued
- hi-tech portable digital wireless telephones and ordered to reach out
- and touch someone with them. I have had my PCS phone since October of
- last year and will presumably be using it through the end of the test
- at the end of this year, unless Ameritech feels otherwise after
- reading my postings. :-)
-
- Following on the heels of several incentive cash payments for
- performing such difficult tasks as making ten phone calls in ten days
- ($10) and carrying it everywhere for two weeks ($75), Ameritech
- summoned many of us to their headquarters one evening for surveys and
- interviews ($65). On the appointed evening I arrived at their
- sprawling complex in Hoffman Estates, in the Land Beyond O'Hare.
-
- This building deserves special mention. On a huge site, they've built
- a high-tech, drop-dead, gee-whiz complex requiring hyphenated
- adjectives to describe, apparently designed by Lee Iaccocca on
- steroids. Anyone who doesn't leave this place with an overwhelming
- sense of good old American "Can-Do" attitude is legally dead.
-
- We were ushered in via the employee entrance, through a slick
- ultra-modern security checkpoint and along a suspended walkway passing
- through the middle of a large office atrium. Everything purposely
- showed off its construction, from steel framing everywhere down to the
- ridiculously overengineered lights illuminating the walkway.
-
- From my vantage point I could look down at cubicles on several floors
- opening into the atrium from either side. "Hmmm," I thought, "I want
- to make fifty copies of my resume and fling them off this balcony
- RIGHT NOW ..."
-
- Anyway, we were sorted into groups of about 30 each, and given a short
- presentation showing Ameritech's plans, followed by a computerized
- survey on PCs to collect our views. What follows here are my views
- only, combined with comments overheard from others:
-
- It turned out that there were three different models of phone in the
- trial. I had been issued a "medium"-sized CT2 SilverLink phone
- weighing about seven ounces. They had also given out what they called
- a "large"-sized DiamondTel 99X, about nine ounces, and a "small"-sized
- NEC Portable Phone, with a claimed weight of three ounces, looking
- vaguely like a pocket windshield scraper. Finally, as a promise of
- things to come, they showed a Rolodex Directory Assistant credit-card
- calculator and announced that they were thinking of doing a phone like
- this in the future. I cringed at the thought of coming around a curve
- and finding some bozo wandering into my lane as he picks at the tiny
- buttons of that thing.
-
- They also presented some alternative service area plans. Aside from
- the obvious choice of simply swamping northeast Illinois with
- 1/2-mile-wide service cells, they also had three other options:
- Chicago city limits only, major thoroughfares only, or payphone
- locations.
-
- The Chicago city limit idea basically involved saturating Chicago and
- leaving out the suburbs altogether. This went over like a lead balloon
- with the suburbanites.
-
- The major throughfares idea made good sense. Transceivers would be put
- in all public areas and along major routes, so that you could just
- pull over if you wanted to make a call while you were out somewhere.
- (When you're at home, you switch the PCS over to Private mode and use
- your base unit anyway, plugged into your home phone line.)
-
- The payphone idea was to have a transceiver built into, or hung on,
- all public payphones. This makes sense initially, but on further
- reflection means that in strange areas, you still have to find a
- payphone for the purpose of not using it:
-
- Me: Excuse me, where's the nearest phone?
-
- Pedestrian: Well, there's one inside the supermarket, but it's closed.
-
- Me: That's O.K. I just need to make a phone call.
-
- The unspoken impression that this gave was that they were fishing to
- see how soon they could launch the product, if it was possible to do
- so before they had the Chicagoland area completely saturated.
-
- Following the presentation, we were plonked in front of PCs for a
- survey. This was a sort of statistical cross-product affair where
- you're presented two pairs of options and asked to pick which set you
- prefer. Then the options are rearranged and you're asked again. After
- a while I began to wish that they'd just drop all the statistical
- gymnastics and ask us flat-out to rate each choice, but no. I answered
- carefully, and gave high marks to the wide service area, low proposed
- prices, inbound call capability and low rates. I hammered the
- credit-card phone idea and limited service areas. Had they asked, I
- would have said that my preference is for a phone that has moderate
- heft to it and is big enough to balance on my shoulder, at least until
- they make one that I can strap on my wrist. ;-)
-
- In other news, reliability has been a bit of a problem. My neighbor's
- original PCS expired within two weeks from some unspecified ailment,
- but was promptly replaced by Ameritech. My original PCS also succumbed
- after three months, with a pager problem that prevented you from
- recalling the paged number, or even getting the darn thing to shut up
- when it beeped. My phone was also promptly replaced, and although the
- new one arrived with a dead backlighting LED in the keypad, it has
- been performing all right for the most part. I have learned to live
- with occasional dropouts and some befuddled low-battery behavior.
-
- The Public/Private mode switching between air service and land-line
- (base unit) use has come in handy. I worked out a method for getting
- into our building after hours using the PCS to bypass our phone-dial
- access panel at the front door (some details deleted for security!):
-
- 1) My PCS base unit is plugged in to my office phone. From outside
- the building, I dial the office switchboard from the building's
- front door access panel. As this is after hours, the night bell
- rings.
-
- 2) I switch my PCS to Private mode, and answer the night bell from
- outside via the PCS using my desk line. When I speak into the PCS
- I can hear myself on the access panel intercom.
-
- 3) I press "9" on the PCS to buzz myself in, and enter the elevator.
-
- 4) The elevator must be called up from an upstairs floor. Again using
- my PCS, I get on the office PA system and call someone to press
- the button on an upstairs floor. I'm up and in.
-
- I'll post more details on the PCS as they occur. Tomorrow evening they
- have another focus group session scheduled ($75). Don't thank me, I'm
- just doing my job.
-
-
- Andrew C. Green
- Datalogics, Inc. Internet: acg@hermes.dlogics.com
- 441 W. Huron UUCP: ..!uunet!dlogics!acg
- Chicago, IL 60610 FAX: (312) 266-4473
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: phoffman@netcom.com (Paul E. Hoffman)
- Subject: Multi-Line Answering Machines: Summary
- Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 22:40:20 GMT
-
-
- Here is a summary of the messages I got concerning multi-line answering
- machines. My original post was:
-
- > I'm doing research for a friend. She wants five lines worth of outgoing-only
- > answering machines, low cost. Same message on each, and in can be a barge-in
- > system (one repeating tape with people coming in in the middle).
-
- > --I know a company called "Skutch" makes some sort of system like this.
- > Does anyone have a tele for them or a rep of theirs?
-
- > --Are there industrial-strength single-line systems that are cheap? She
- > doesn't mind duping the tape five times and dropping it in five machines
- > if that's much cheaper and/or more reliable than a five-line system.
-
- Here are the most useful replies:
-
- From pickens@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
-
- You may want to look at a company called Interailia (sp?) and also at
- a company called Viking Electronics. They refer to them as multi-line
- announcers. Most often you would use this at a movie theatre to
- announce show times, etc. Some models are very similar to answering
- machines and others will actually store the message digitally. A good
- source for information on these type of devices is Telconnect
- magazine. They periodically run an issue on CPE auxilary equipment.
- BTW CPE stands for customer premise equipment.
-
- From Joe.Bergstein@p501.f544.n109.z1.fidonet.org
-
- You'd be much better off obtaining a multiport digital recorded
- annoucement device, much like those used to provide message while on
-
- hold for airlines, credit card firms, etc. The annoucement is
- recorded and stored digitally, so there's no moving parts or sound
- quality degradation. You need to find a multiport model which can
- handle five lines. And most have options to either have new call
- enter in the middle of message, or continue to ring until beginning of
- message. Also get one with internal battery so you don't lose a
- recorded digital message if you have a power outage.
-
- From elmo@netcom.com
-
- Skutch Electronics
- 209 Kenroy Lane #7
- RosevilleCA 95678
- (916) 786-6186
-
- Skutch makes some very inexpensive and innovative products. I'm not
- certain they make a 5-line announcer.
-
- You may want to consider using a service, rather than buying hardware.
- For instance, Pacific Bell will sell me voicemail on a Centrex line,
- for $20/month; the voicemail will answer any number of calls
- simultaneously. Similar results are available from paging companies,
- altho they tend to stretch their resources a bit thinner at times,
- which may result in busy signals. If you have the phone lines
- exclusively for the purpose of announcements, you could save a lot of
- money with a service, disconnecting the existing lines.
-
- If equipment is the only way to go, I've had VERY good experience with
- Takacom over the last 7 years. I have 26 of their three-line
- loop-tape announcers; they run about $400/three lines. None have ever
- failed me. They also have digital equipment. 1-800-421-1858, or you
- can check with their local distributor, Tri-County Telecom,
- 818-885-1411, ask for Jack. He, too, has never failed me.
-
- From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
-
- Sounds like what you want is similar to the things that broadcasters
- use -- endless loop carts, or even better, digital recorders. Sonifex
- make stuff like this, along with phone interfaces.
-
- That's one relatively expensive, but reliable option - these things
- will run for tens of thousands of calls before the tape needs
- replacing.
-
- The other option that springs to mind is to get one of those
- relatively cheap phone answering machines which digitally records the
- outgoing message and either remove the i/c message tape, or set it to
- announce only. If it works, buy four more. Cheap, and no moving parts.
-
- From leavens@bmf.usc.edu
-
- I don't know the cost-effectiveness of this, but your friend might
- just want to get one answering machine and some kind of
- teleconferencing bridge. If you take a meet-me type bridge and
- configre each port to "listen-only", and then pump the endless-loop
- tape in another port. With that, you could then add more lines as
- needed.
-
- From hhallika@tuba.calpoly.edu
-
- For announce only "barge in" applications, you might talk with
- Henry Engineering. I believe they make such a device using digital
- voice storage. It may also handle multiple lines, making only one
- recording necessary.
-
- Contact: Hank Landsberg
- Henry Engineering
- 503 Key Vista Drive
- Sierra Madre, CA 91024
- phone +1 818 355 3656
- fax +1 818 355 0077
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 93 19:30:07 CST
- From: Andrew Luebker <aahvdl@eye.psych.umn.edu>
- Subject: The Moderator's New Employer
-
-
- Pat,
-
- I found this article in a back issue of the {Minnesota Daily}
- newspaper. Are they also paying you that fat 28% commission of seven
- cents on every quarter spent? If so, you ought to be able to buy
- plenty of cat food!
-
- Minnesota Daily Monday, April 30, 1990 Page 5
- "Orange Phone rings in new era of cheap long distance calls"
-
- By Stephanie Armour
- Staff Reporter
-
- It may look like the Bat Phone, but it's not.
-
- It's called the Orange Phone, and local businesses think it will
- ring in a new era of cheap long-distance calls.
-
- "It's turned the price back 40 years," said Bill Mangels, presi-
- dent of Mega Orangge Marketing, a Plymouth coompany which markets the
- phone to local businesses. "It saves customers money and builds up
- the use of pay phones."
-
- The Orange Phone, a pay phone that costs only 25 cents per minute
- for continental long-distance calls, has been springing up in
- businesses and on college campuses nationwide.
-
- While a three minute AT&T pay-phone call from the Twin Cities to
- Floridta costs $2.75, the same call on an Orange Phone is only 75
- cents. Overall rates are one-fourth the cost of Bell pay-phone
- services, and Mangels said users of the Orange Phone can call anywhere
- in the United States except Alaska and Hawaii.
-
- Local marketers of the phone are banking that students will let
- their fingers do the walking -- right on over to Alpha Print, where
- the first Orange Phone in the Dinkytown area was just installed.
-
- "You know everyone is happy," Mangels said. "You can use a calling
- card, call 911, 411 and operator assistance."
-
- The Alpha Print phone has been in service for only a week but store
- owner Ali Mahavadi said that it's been very successful.
-
- "When students come in for course material or copying, they can use
- the phone," Mahavadi said. "Prices are very cheap compared to regular
- phones."
-
- But Alpha Print is just the beginning. In the future, Mangels
- said, he hopes to have at least eight other area stores busy with the
- Orange Phones.
-
- "Usually businesses aren't known for producing long-distance calls
- because of the rates," Mangels said. "You have to pour in a lot of
- change. This is something that the pay phones couldn't do."
-
- The phone has also been a big hit with students at St. Cloud State
- Universitty, said Jim Harstad, president of Telecommunication
- Consultants Inc.
-
- Installed last September at St. Cloud State's Atwood Memorial
- Center, the first Orange Phone earned about $100 a month for the
- school, which leased it at a commission of seven cents per call, said
- Joe Opatz, director of the center.
-
- "It's been used extensively," Harstad said. "We go through over
- 4,000 minutes worth of calls a month."
-
- The phone has also been in stalled in three dormitories at St.
- Cloud State, he said.
- However, Opatz isn't as optimistic. Although he said the Orange
- Phone waas initially popular at the student center, use of the phone
- has declined.
-
- "The last report for March was about $66," Opatz said. "I don't see
- long lines waiting to use it."
-
- But Bob Albertson, creator of the Orange Phone, is expecting lines
- to grow.
-
- Albertson, an inventor from Minnetonka, got the idea for an
- inexpensive pay phone following his 1980 success in breaking up the
- AT&T monopoply on long distance service.
-
- As a result of Albertson's dispute with the Minnesota Public
- Utility Commission, the monopoly was dissolved. Other competitors
- were then able to bid for services in April 1989 -- including
- Albertson, who bought $60 million in long-distance service from the
- company.
-
- Because long-distance service is now offered by more than one
- pay-phone company, Albertson siad, he was able to offer lower rates by
- buying bulk amounts of time.
-
- Increased competition, technological breathroughs and computer
- advances also contributed to the low rates.
-
- services will be a boon -- especially on college campuses.
-
- "We want to get these phones at the U of M," Albertson said. "And
- the students want the phones."
-
-
- [Moderator's Note: I must point out I an NOT employed by Orange Comm-
- unications, I am merely an independent contractor for their new
- service called the Orange Card, a no-surcharge calling card which
- bills in six-second increments *including the first minute* at 25
- cents per minute flat rate for calls all over the USA, using an 800
- number for access to their switch. I think perhaps I shall also have
- something to do with the placement of the Orange Phones; that is not
-
- resolved yet.
-
- Thanks to everyone who helped me reconstruct the list of brochure
- requests following the horrifying debacle on Tuesday morning. A couple
- hundred of the brochures and applications were put in the mail Tuesday
- afternoon. I'll mail more on Wednesday; everyone who wrote should have
- it by the end of the week. Consider this like an 'affinity calling
- card' in our case: profits will offset the increasing costs I face in
- moderating the Digest with its growing mailing list. This calling card
- is best suited for SHORT calls of one to ten minutes from phones where
- a surcharge would normally apply.
-
- To answer a couple of technical questions brought up several times by
- people who requested an application: yes, they offer actual
- supervision, not just 'guesstimates' as to if/when your call connects.
- The first minute is also broken into six-second intervals. Yes, you
- can make local calls via their switch. No, they do not require you to
- use their 1+ service, and they do not 'slam' or play games. At the
- present time, their 800 number is *not* well known to hotels, thus it
- is likely your call to their switch would pass unnoticed. If a
- calling card like this would meet some requirements of yours, then
- please order it through me. :) Send your snail-mail address to me at
- ptownson@eecs.nwu.edu or via fax 312-743-0002. Thanks. PAT]
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Joe Smooth <kingpin@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
- Subject: Novatel Accessory Needed
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 22:42:44 GMT
-
-
- I am looking for the plastic "S" insert that is used in the Novatel
- transportable bag phones ... I have called Novatel, and they don't
- make them anymore. If anyone knows where I can get one, or has one to
- sell, please let me know! Thanks a lot!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- From: Joe Smooth <kingpin@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu>
- Subject: Uniden Cell Phone Handset Question
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1993 22:34:44 GMT
-
-
- I was wondering if there was a way to modify a normal Uniden mobile
- phone handset into one of the special 'programming handsets' used by
- Uniden?
-
- I have heard that you can do so by grounding a test line in the
- handset or something like that, but I wanted some feedback first.
-
- If you know how it can be done, PLEASE let me know!
-
- (I'm also interested in any information you have on Uniden mobile phones
- at all. Thanks)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 93 20:47:05 EST
- From: gls@windmill.att.com
- Subject: A Pager For Jughead
- Organization: AT&T
-
-
- In <telecom13.114.5@eecs.nwu.edu>, mc!Brad_Hicks@mhs.attmail.com
- writes:
-
- > I am at a total loss to imagine what legitimate need a high school
- > student or younger has for to have a pager or cellular phone with him
- > or her at school. They are there to learn, period. ...
-
- A voice from the past! As we enter a world in which we can talk
- together just by wishing it, we still isolate young people in
- institutions dedicated to the principle that whatever we need to tell
- one another can be told with books.
-
- No, pagers and schools don't mix. But now that interaction matters
- very much, and training people to serve as interchangeable parts for
- the dying age of machines can only hurt us -- let's keep the pagers
- and get rid of the schools.
-
- Even if only to reduce drug use ...!
-
-
- Col. G. L. Sicherman gls@windmill.att.COM
-
-
- [Moderator's Note: That does it! Now for sure I am killing this thread
- once and for all. I'm sorry I started it! Further messages with
- 'pager' in the subject go straight to /dev/null! PAT]
-
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