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- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:00 1993
- Subject: Prerecorded Garbo instructions
-
- ------------------- begin prerecorded message ----------------------
- ..................................................................
- Prof. Timo Salmi Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
- Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
- Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
- Internet: ts@uwasa.fi or timo.salmi@uwasa.fi; FIN-65101, Finland
-
- There are some frequently asked questions about the programs
- available from garbo.uwasa.fi, by anonymous FTP, from the /pc/..
- directories here at the University of Vaasa, Finland, site
- 128.214.87.1. Below you will find many of them prerecorded with
- answers. Please notice that the questions & answers are not in any
- logical order. The order has more or less been dictated by the
- arriving questions. And, there is overlapping.
-
- If you are well familiar with FTP and mail servers please note the
- following. Using automated FTP (batchftp) is preferred, since it
- minimizes the connection time (it is convenient for you, anyway).
- Furthermore, use mail servers *ONLY* if you don't have the FTP
- potential.
-
- Please also note that many recurring MsDos FTP site related and
- similar questions are answered in garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/camfaq.zip.
-
- .......................................................................
- FTP archives garbo.uwasa.fi, U of Vaasa, Finland, moderated by
- Timo Salmi ts@uwasa.fi Publicity, MsDos, selected MsDos uploads
- Ari Hovila ajh@uwasa.fi MsDos & Win, uploads, Garbo & BBS SysMgr
- Harri Valkama hv@uwasa.fi MsDos, Win, Mac, Unix, uploads, Garbo SysMgr
- Hannu Hirvonen hh@uwasa.fi Unix, Chyde SysMgr, postmaster
- .......................................................................
-
- 1) What is this anonymous ftp?
- 2) Send file(s) to me by email. (Or how to use the mail server?)
- 3) Are there any other options for getting the files?
- 4) Do you announce all your new programs in the UseNet news?
- 5) How is anonymous ftp used?
- 6) When I try to unpack the package I received, it is corrupt.
- 7) Send me a list where on SimTel I can find the same programs.
- 8) What is garbo.uwasa.fi guest user-id?
- 9) The .arc .arj .lzh .pak .zip .zoo extensions, what are they?
- 10) I have made some programs myself. Are you interested?
- 11) I want a description of the programs to decide what to get.
- 12) Why don't you reply to my email messages?
- 13) I get an "unknown packing method" error message.
- 14) I need a program for such and such purpose. Any directions?
- 15) What are these peculiar files with a .Z extension?
- 16) Where does one get the files listed in mmfiles*.zip?
- 17) What if my site does not know Garbo or connection refused?
- 18) Is there any way of automating getting the files?
- 19) Why doesn't your mail server respond to my correct request?
- 20) Are Garbo files mirrored? Which directories? How to connect?
- 21) The answer to my question is not in this list, what next?
- ...................................................................
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:01 1993
- Subject: What is anonymous FTP
-
- 1. *****
- Q: I do not understand this getting files with anonymous ftp. What
- does it mean?
-
- A: FTP stands for file transfer program, which is a standard
- feature in many mainframe Unix and VAX/VMS systems. It also means
- that you must have a network connection to reach the University of
- Vaasa. Please contact your computer's system manager for more
- information on the connection. When this is ok, just follow the
- instructions in Appendix A at the end of this prerecorded message.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:02 1993
- Subject: Email server instructions
-
- 2. *****
- Q: Many of us users have no ftp access. Would you please send
- programs to me by email.
-
- A1: To get files sent to you by email, please use our mail server.
- To get more information write a message to mailserv@garbo.uwasa.fi.
- The subject line of this message must be
- garbo-request
- The message must contain just the following text (at the beginning
- of the line):
- send help
- Do not include a signature because it may confuse the server.
- If you do not understand, please don't send the mail server request.
- If you have ftp capability, please use FTP only, since it causes
- less load.
-
- A2: Our customary format for the file names when announcing
- programs for ANONYMOUS FTP is e.g.
- garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/dirutil/dirmat20.zip or
- /pc/dirutil/dirmat20.zip
- IMPORTANT!!! The format for the MAIL SERVER is slightly different:
- send pc/dirutil/dirmat20.zip
- In other words omit / from the path when using our mail server.
- ....
- Here are some common examples of INCORRECT requests:
- send pc/dirutil/dirmat20.arc
- The format is correct, but there is no such file. Look at the file
- list more carefully.
- ....
- send pc/dirutil/dirmat19.zip
- The format is correct, but the package has just been updated with a
- more recent version. Look at the directory list again.
- ....
- send /pc/dirutil/dirmat20.zip
- send dirutil/dirmat20.zip
- The directory path is incorrect.
- ....
- send pc/ts/dirmat20.zip
- The format is correct, but the file is not in that directory.
- ....
- send pc/dirutil/DIRMAT20.ZIP
- The system is case sensitive. Almost all the files and all the
- directories are lower case.
- ....
- send pc/dirutil/dirmat*.zip
- No wildcards.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:03 1993
- Subject: Poor souls without FTP
-
- 3. *****
- Q: Are there any other options for getting the files?
-
- A: If you have a modem, you can call Vaasa Freeport BBS for the
- files. The phone numbers are (+358)-61-3248490, 3170972, and
- 3170974. The settings are 9600,N,8,1. When connecting the first
- time give "bbs" or "guest" as your login. This information is
- subject to changes.
- The Garbo file collection is also available on a CDROM which can
- be obtained from WasaWare Oy, Harri Valkama, Palosaarentie 31,
- FI-65200 VAASA, FINLAND, Telephone (+358)-61-3173365, Fax:
- (+358)-61-3173025, Email: hv@uwasa.fi. Unfortunately, the CDROM is
- updated infrequently.
- As for sending the requested files physically on disks, we do not
- provide such a service. Please do not even ask :-).
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:04 1993
- Subject: Are all programs announced
-
- 4. *****
- Q: Do you announce all your new programs in the UseNet news?
-
- A: Yes, we try to, in the comp.archives.msdos.announce newsgroup,
- and also on the combined SimTel & Garbo announcement mailing list.
- (For information on the latter, see /pc/MSDOSANN.ZIP.)
- It is up to our uploaders to email us a proper upload
- announcement for the distribution, as explained in /pc/UPLOAD.INF
- and /pc/UPTEXT.INF.
- You might take a look at /pc/_files.in. It gives a monthly raw
- list of all our new MsDos files.
- Two further files are of relevance. First /pc/pd2/news-pd2 gives
- _selected_ information about uploads. Not all, but on those of
- special interest. Second /pc/ts/0news-ts gives information about
- all the uploads in the /pc/ts directory.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:05 1993
- Subject: FTP transfer commands
-
- 5. *****
- Q: I have the ftp (file transfer program) capability and a network
- access that includes your 128.214.87.1 site garbo.uwasa.fi. But
- how do I transfer the files? What are the commands?
-
- A: The information and examples in Appendix A of this message
- should enable you to get the files.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:06 1993
- Subject: Allegedly corrupt packages
-
- 6. *****
- Q: I have received the programs but the package is corrupt. When I
- try to unpack them with my unpacking program (pkunzip, unzip,
- pkxarc, pkunpak, arc, lharc, zoo, arj, etc.) the unpacking fails or
- produces files that lock my PC.
-
- A: The files with the .zip, .zoo, .arc, .arj, .lzh, .pak, and .exe
- extension are binary packages and you have to use the correct
- transfer mode when you transfer the programs from the remote FTP
- site to our host, and when you transfer the files from our main
- frame to your PC.
- Very frequently the problems the users report are due to failing
- to set the binary mode when transferring the files from the user's
- host to the users PC. Please see Appendix B for more information.
- There have been over million of successful downloads a year from us,
- and it is very unlikely that the original file at garbo.uwasa.fi is
- really corrupted. It is not impossible, but first check all the
- other possibilities. Perhaps the most common error is failing to
- make the transfer binary.
- There is another common cause for allegedly corrupt packages
- besides failing to use the correct mode in the file transfer from
- the FTP site to one's own host, or in the file transfer from one's
- own host to one's PC. This is failing to use the correct version of
- the relevant archiver for archived packages. In particular, if a
- .zip file at the FTP site has been constructed with the Unix zip,
- and you try to unzip it with old PKZIP versions, you might get an
- error message indicating a CRC error. This is a misleading error
- message since it really is an incompatible version error. Thus
- assure that you are using the latest version:
- 202574 Feb 1 02:04 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/pkz204g.exe
- pkz204g.exe PKWARE's pkzip, pkunzip, pkzipfix, zip2exe for .zip
- or
- 40062 Jan 18 11:06 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/arcers/unz50p1.exe
- unz50p1.exe Info-ZIP's self-extracting unzipper (pkzip 2.04
- compatible)
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:07 1993
- Subject: SimTel questions
-
- 7. *****
- Q: I would rather like to get the files from SimTel (or some other
- archive site near me) since I have an easier access there. Send me
- a list telling in which directories the files are at SimTel or some
- other near-by FTP archive.
-
- A: We are often asked this (and other) information about SimTel
- (and other archive sites). We like to and do cooperate, but
- nevertheless this is really something you should be finding out from
- SimTel, not us. SimTel archives maintainer is Keith Petersen
- w8sdz@SimTel.Coast.NET. The SimTel filelist to get is
- OAK.Oakland.Edu:/pub/msdos/filedocs/simlist.zip.
- North American downloaders should first try one of the many
- archives in the USA such as OAK.Oakland.Edu and wuarchive.wustl.edu
- instead of overseas sites to cut down the load on the overseas link.
- For the other users the reciprocal seems logical. First take a look
- at garbo.uwasa.fi archives (or some other European site). There is
- a good list of MsDos FTP sites in garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/pd2/moder*.zip.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:08 1993
- Subject: What is garbo's guest user-id
-
- 8. *****
- Q: Do you have a guest user-id? I cannot ftp, but I can reach your
- site through the net. I type anonymous at the login: and then try
- to give my email address at the Password:. I am not let in, but get
- a "Login incorrect" message instead.
-
- A: We do not accept guest users. This means that what you tried,
- is not allowed at our site. The only way you can get connected to
- our system is using the true ftp system, which is described in
- Appendix A.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:09 1993
- Subject: The .arc .arj .lzh .pak .zip .zoo extensions
-
- 9. *****
- Q: I now have the files, but they have this .zip (or .arc, .arj,
- .lzh, .pak, .zoo) extension and they won't run then I write their
- name at my DOS prompt.
-
- A: The files are packed (also often called archived) entities.
- These are special formats of compressing files and packing several
- files together. This is usually standard knowledge for PC users,
- and if you are not familiar with the system, just ask a
- knowledgeable fellow user. What you need is the proper unpacking
- programs such as PKUNZIP, UNZIP, ARJ, ARC, PKXARC, PKUNPAK, PAK,
- LHARC, LHA, ZOO and so on. And, you will find all the necessary
- tools for handling packed files in the /pc/arcers directory. For
- example, if the extension is .zip get the self-extracting
- pkz204g.exe utility (or whatever is latest version).
- Note that if you use an out of date PKUNZIP version, it may
- report a CRC error in your .zip file although the true reason for
- your problems is using the out of date version. Likewise, if you
- have failed to transfer the file in the binary mode, you may get an
- unexpected, illogical error message like "requires PKUNZIP 3.0 or
- higher version".
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:10 1993
- Subject: Upload instructions
-
- 10. *****
- Q: I have made some programs myself which I think might be of
- general interest. Or I have obtained this fabulous program which I
- think would be of general interest. Or I have a more recent version
- of this program than you have on your archives. Would it be
- possible to upload them to your system.
-
- A: Please see garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/UPLOAD.INF and /pc/UPTEXT.INF for
- the full information on this question. In brief, we welcome quality
- MsDos uploads in many but not all categories.
- Please READ THIS MATERIAL CAREFULLY BEFORE UPLOADING to Garbo to
- save your own and our time.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:11 1993
- Subject: Need file descriptions
-
- 11. *****
- Q: Is there a description of the programs? I would like to have
- some information on the files before I start transferring them.
-
- A1: Yes, certainly. This approach is even recommended. There is a
- file called /pc/INDEX.ZIP (with MsDos eolns) which is the annotated
- list of the MsDos files on Garbo. This index file is also available
- in the (more bloated) ascii format as /pc/filelist/INDEX (but please
- rather use /pc/INDEX.ZIP). It is also available in Unix compressed
- format /pc/filelist/garboidx.Z (Unix eolns). Furthermore, there are
- three news files /pc/pd2/news-pd2, /pc/ts/0news-ts, and
- /unix/ts/0news-u. Note that /pc/pd2/news-pd2 contains selected news
- on all /pc (MsDos) directories, not just on /pc/pd2. Finally there
- is a /pc/INDEXTS.ZIP. It contains detailed information on the
- contents of each package in the /pc/ts directory. For the annotated
- contents of our Unix directories see /unix/INDEX.
-
- A2: Even if I like to try to help whenever I can, I cannot answer
- questions asking me to describe particular files, or to take a
- closer look what is in them on behalf of an individual user. I
- simply cannot afford the time.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:12 1993
- Subject: Problems with sending replys
-
- 12. *****
- Q: I sent you a message a couple of weeks ago. Did you receive it?
- Why don't you reply?
-
- A: I try to reply to all queries I have received. But getting the
- reply to you successfully is not always technically possible. The
- reason for this is, that the reply address which the mail program
- gives, is sometimes not adequate. My reply bounces back to me as a
- consequence. Therefore you should include your InterNet and/or
- BitNet address in your message. Using proper signatures in email is
- customary, anyway. This does not guarantee a successful reply, but
- it definitely increases the possibility of getting an eventual
- reply.
- Since 1991 I have had to backtrack on this promise. I now get so
- much email that if my reply bounces I simply can't afford the time
- to try to fix it at all. So if you don't hear from me within five
- days, contact your own system manager. Ask him/her to see to it
- that your email address in your message header is a returnable
- address.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:13 1993
- Subject: Unknown packing methods
-
- 13. *****
- Q: When I try to unpack the package I get something like an
- "unknown packing method" error message. What is wrong?
-
- A: First check that you are using the correct unpacking program by
- looking at the extension of the file name, and select the unpacking
- program accordingly. If this does not help, you are most likely
- using an outdated version of the relevant unpacking program. Get
- the latest version. The /pc/arcers directory at garbo.uwasa.fi has
- a good collection of these tools.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:14 1993
- Subject: Looking for particular programs
-
- 14. *****
- Q: I am interested to know if there exists a program for such and
- such purpose. Would you point me in the right direction. (This
- question also often occurs in the news postings, especially in the
- comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted and comp.archives.msdos.d newsgroups.)
-
- A1: Most often the best answer is to look through file lists. We
- have several such lists which should together have quite a good
- coverage of the PD programs in circulation. These lists are
- /pc/INDEX.ZIP and /pc/INDEXTS.ZIP (these are the MsDos file lists
- for our site, garbo.uwasa.fi), /pc/filelist/cbbs_dos.zip,
- /pc/filelist/mmfiles*.zip (a good English speaking Finnish BBS), and
- /pc/filelist/simlist.zip (SimTel list).
-
- A2: How to find MsDos files on garbo.uwasa.fi: If you are looking
- for a particular program at garbo.uwasa.fi you should start by
- getting the following files:
- /pc/INDEX.ZIP (the general annotated /pc files index)
- /pc/INDEXTS.ZIP (ts-package contents)
- For seeing what is new in the /pc and /pc/ts directories, get
- /pc/pd2/news-pd2 (selected news on all MsDos directories)
- /pc/ts/0news-ts (all news on ts-programs)
-
- A3: There is more advice on finding files in the Frequently Asked
- Questions collection /pc/ts/tsfaqn36.zip (or whatever version number
- is current), and the Garbo feedback files /pc/pd2/post??.zip (where
- ?? = 01,02,... etc. /pc/pd2/post00.zip contains the subject index.
- Also see the Frequently Asked Questions for the newsgroup
- comp.archives.msdos.announce. Available as /pc/pd2/camfaq.zip.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:15 1993
- Subject: Files with .Z extension
-
- 15. *****
- Q: I have noticed that some directories at garbo.uwasa.fi archives
- include files that have a .Z extension. What are they?
-
- A1: They are Unix files that are processed with compress,
- uncompress, and zcat. The garbo.uwasa.fi archives are on a Unix
- system, and many these files are related to handling the PC files
- without having first to transfer them to from the Unix mainframe to
- the PC. Please see /unix/ts/0news-u and /pc/ts/tsfaqn36.zip (or
- whatever is the current version number) for more details and
- instructions. Also try
- man compress
- on a Unix system for information.
-
- A2: You can handle these compressed files also on your MsDos PC.
- For that you need a program like /pc/unix/comp430d.zip (or whatever
- version is the latest). Note for text files that Unix and MsDos use
- different eolns (end-of-lines). You may filter them properly eg
- with unix2pc.exe which is in /pc/ts/tsfilt19.zip (or whatever
- version number is current).
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:16 1993
- Subject: File list of unavailable files
-
- 16. *****
- Q: Exactly where does one obtain the files listed in mmfiles*.zip?
- There didn't seem to be any indication to that effect in the
- FILES.TXT file, and I'm almost certain you don't keep them at
- garbo.uwasa.fi...
-
- A: They are available at FidoNet node 2:220/22, Micro Maniacs Opus,
- Finland, phone 358-0-2983308. The reason for having mmfiles*.zip is
- to have a file list of one good BBS so that the users can look what
- kind of files are available in one good bulletin board, even if
- SimTel or garbo.uwasa.fi do not have all these files. There is also
- a huge file list of another BBS on garbo.uwasa.fi archives, that is
- /pc/filelist/cbbs_dos.zip. See /pc/bbs/fi*.zip for the phone
- number. Note, however, that the information in these files, and
- this item may be *DRASTICALLY* out of date!
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:17 1993
- Subject: I cannot make the connection
-
- 17. *****
- Q: What if my site does not know Garbo or connection refused?
- (This question comes in various formats, but the point of all the
- queries is that the user cannot connect to garbo).
-
- A: Garbo, the system, is managed by Harri Valkama (hv@uwasa.fi), Ari
- Hovila (ajh@uwasa.fi) and our main system chyde is managed by Hannu
- Hirvonen (hh@uwasa.fi) who is also our postmaster. Timo Salmi
- specializes in Garbo publicity, and MsDos material, not in technical
- Garbo system management. Nevertheless, here is some general
- information.
- In general if you are having problems in reaching Garbo (not
- problems with Garbo itself) the first person to contact is your own
- site's system manager. For example, if you might get an error
- message like "host unknown". This means that your own host does not
- know garbo.uwasa.fi. The Garbo information is missing from your
- site's hosts-file, and your host is not using distributed name
- service. There is nothing we can do about from this end. (You can
- try to use the IP number 128.214.87.1 in that case as a temporary
- measure).
- You might also get a more radical error message like "Access to
- the Scandinavian nodes has been discontinued, due to the slowness
- and unreliability of the network connections." Again this is a
- problem that has nothing to do directly with Garbo. It is probably
- a question of your site's net privileges and arrangements, or a
- problem between different networks quite beyond our control.
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:18 1993
- Subject: Automated downloads (see this)
-
- 18. *****
- Q: The ftp session is repetitive and tedious, and the connection is
- not always available. Is there any way to automate getting files
- from garbo.uwasa.fi by anonymous ftp.
-
- A: Yes, there is a useful facility called batchftp by Shawn Cooper,
- which achieves this if you have a BSD Unix system. You can get it
- by downloading /unix/networking/ftp/batchftp102.tar.Z (or whatever
- version is the latest). The package contains documentation, and
- also see /unix/neyworking/ftp/batchftp.inf and /unix/ts/0news-u for
- brief instructions. This system has the added advantage of cutting
- down the unnecessary idle time inherent in "manual" ftp connections.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:19 1993
- Subject: Problems with mail server requests
-
- 19. *****
- Q: I sent a mail server request to garbo.uwasa.fi but I get no
- response at all. And I am sure that I did everything as instructed.
-
- A: In that case your, or your system's email address is probably
- badly configured. Please contact your own system manager.
- DON'T send a repeat request until your email address problem has
- been resolved!!! This is very important, so I repeat DON'T!
- What happens is this. We get your request, but when
- garbo.uwasa.fi tries to honor your request to send you the file(s)
- by email, the email bounces back to us because of the problems in
- your email address. If you send repeat requests, it will just clog
- our post-master with the bounced email.
- Try using a corrected mail address to return the requests. You
- can do this by adding the following command to (the body of) your
- message to our mail server.
- path <path to your machine>
- e.g.
- path youruserid@yourmachine.yourdomain.yourcountry
- send WhateverYouWant
- You should contact your system manager to asses an optimized path
- especially if you are using UUCP or BANG paths to get your mail
- delivered to us. Our mail server checks the mail queue every 15
- minutes so if you don't get response in a reasonable time you'd
- better check this one out with a little help from your friends. You
- can use this command with or without the <> characters.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:20 1993
- Subject: Garbo mirrors
-
- 20. *****
- Q: Are Garbo files mirrored? Which directories? How to connect?
-
- A: Garbo is mirrored in North America by wuarchive.wustl.edu.
- Oceanian users are referred to the archie.au mirror. Asian users
- can access NCTUCCCA.edu.tw. The mirrors are independent operations.
- Therefore you should direct any detailed questions about the
- mirroring to the relevant moderators of those sites, not to us.
- Note, however, that much of what is in Appendix A on how to download
- the files is directly applicable to the mirrors as well. See
- garbo.uwasa.fi: /pc/pd2/moder*.zip for preliminary information on
- the main mirror directories, and the mirror moderators' email
- addresses.
- Also note that there is no guarantee that the mirror will not lag
- even week(s) behind, _or_ might not have all the files.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:21 1993
- Subject: Answer not found
-
- 21. *****
- Q: The answer to my question is not in this list, what next?
-
- A: It depends very much on your question. Try take a look at the
- /pc/ts/tsfaqn36.zip (or whichever version is current) Frequently
- Asked Questions and the /pc/pd2/post*.zip (* = 00,01,02,...) Garbo
- information files. Also see /pc/pd2/camfaq.zip. If these do not
- help document your problem carefully. Please note that I cannot
- guarantee that we have the answer, or that I will have the time to
- look for it. I like to help, but I often simply cannot afford the
- time. Therefore you should save a copy of your question so that you
- can consider posting it to the UseNet news when relevant.
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:51 1993
- Subject: Appendix A: FTP downloading
-
- A. *****
- Q: APPENDIX A: Obtaining (downloading) the Programs by FTP
- ==========================================================
-
- You can obtain the file(s) from garbo.uwasa.fi (128.214.87.1)
- using the InterNet ftp (file transfer program) with username
- "anonymous". For a login password use your electronic mail address.
- If you are using ftp from a VAX/VMS system, set case lower before
- proceeding.
- Consider as an example the programs of Timo Salmi. The files are
- in directory /pc/ts. At the ftp> prompt first type binary (for
- binary files). To go to the relevant directory apply cd /pc/ts. To
- see its contents apply ls or dir. To download a file, use get
- filename or mget filenames. The files have been packed with Unix
- Zip so on MsDos you will need PKUNZIP from PKWARE or some other
- unzip program to unpack them on your PC.
- The following contains the same information by giving the
- commands needed for transferring vaasa.inf (contains text on
- Finland, Vaasa, and University of Vaasa) and tspfon29.zip as an
- example. In the example its is assumed that you are calling from a
- Unix system. The usage for a VAX/VMS system is quite similar.
-
- ftp #Invoke the file transfer program
- open 128.214.87.1 #Connect to garbo.uwasa.fi at the University
- #of Vaasa
- anonymous #Use this name to get temporary privileges
- Give (at least) the first part of your email address as your password
- cd /pc/ts #Go to the relevant directory
- dir (or ls -lF) #Directory of available files
- ascii #vaasa.inf is an ordinary text file
- get vaasa.inf #Copy the file to your default directory
- binary #tspfon29.zip is a binary file
- mget tspfon*.zip #mget allows wildcards
- close #Terminate the connection
- quit #Quit the file transfer program
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-
- From ts@uwasa.fi Sat Oct 16 00:00:52 1993
- Subject: Appendix B: Your host -> your PC
-
- B. *****
- Q: APPENDIX B: Transferring the Programs to PC
- ==============================================
- After you have received the files to your host, there still
- remains the task of transferring the programs to your PC. This is
- familiar to most users, but occasionally there are problems. It
- impossible to give advice that would cover resolving all the
- difficulties, but the most common can be described. The most usual
- file transfer method between the host and the user's PC is MsKermit.
- (Zmodem and others may be used as well, but I would guess that most
- often persons using these alternatives are advanced users, and can
- resolve any problems by themselves.)
- The most common problem is probably that after getting a packed
- file to one's PC, the file appears damaged. Almost always this is
- due to failing to set correctly the Kermit parameters at ONE or BOTH
- ends of the transfer. What you have to do is the following. In
- your host Kermit set file type binary, set parity even (or none or
- whatever), and in your PC MsKermit you must have the SAME parity you
- set for your host (select host Kermit parity on the basis of your
- PC's). If you fail to get these compatible, the transfer will not
- result in what you want. Transferring text files does not lead to
- problems so often. The trick is set file type text (or ascii
- depending on your Kermit version).
- Finally, if nothing else, absolutely nothing else(!), seems to
- resolve the problem, please let us know, and we will check that the
- file at our site is good and proper.
-
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