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- Subject: alt.syntax.tactical FAQ - Dealing with Trolls Crossposting and Flames Rev 960911
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- Summary: This posting describes how to deal with trolls, crossposts and flames
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- URL: http://digital.net/~gandalf/trollfaq.html
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- Greetings and Salutations:
-
- This FAQ is about crossposts, troll and flames, and what to do about
- them.
-
- Table of contents to this FAQ:
-
- o Introduction
- o Introducing the alt.syntax.tactical group
- o Defining troll, flames and crossposts
- o What to do
- o E-Mailing
- o Killfiles
- o A description of the alt.syntax.tactical crew
- o The alt.syntax.tactical FAQ - Know your opponents
-
-
- Introduction
- ============================================
- The latest & greatest version of this FAQ will be found at one of the
- following:
- http://digital.net/~gandalf/trollfaq.html
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.syntax.tactical/
-
- PLEASE email follow-ups, additions / changes to gandalf@digital.net,
- My news source is OK, but I sometimes miss items.
-
- Introducing the alt.syntax.tactical group
- ============================================
- The alt.syntax.tactical crew (of which I am definitely not a member of
- and which may have origins in the alt.shenanigans newsgroup) decides
- every now and then to start a colossal crosspost / flame war. The
- latest attack started on or about the Middle March 1996 trolling by
- crossposting between alt.smokers, can.talk.smoking, alt.support.non-
- smokers, asthma and SCI groups by taking an original post from
- alt.smokers, pass it thru a anonymous remailer (with the original e-
- mail name intact) and repost it to all of the above groups. This (as
- you can guess) started a massive flame war with the original
- (innocent) poster getting in trouble for the crosspost that they never
- made. It has since migrated to rec.pets.cats and beyond, but the
- lines are ever changing. It is rumored that they exist on a
- listserver, planning their next attack thru the back channels.
- Wouldn't want the plans posted out in the open, now would we :-).
-
- These children are a version of Internet vandals. They do no good and
- only cause trouble. There are many ways that they attack. All of the
- methods are very simple (remember the abilities of the people we are
- dealing with here). They use open NNTP servers, anonymous remailers,
- list servers, mail to news gateways, basically anything they can think
- of.
-
- The bottom line is that no matter if someone is trolling from
- alt.syntax.tactical or from any other group (no matter who they are)
- they are only looking for someone (anybody) to boost their ego by
- getting a response. If you get upset and reply then all you are doing
- is making them feel better. It doesn't matter who the troller is,
- whether they are Raoul Xemblinosky <raoulx@xi.netcom.com> (forge
- posting from filnet.fr), Haakon Lugiesson <lugiess@aix.telia.se>
- (actually posting from skol1.telia.se apparently thru pm1-
- 02.springfield.mo.smartnet.net), Jeffrey Lea
- <wildweed@mother.juno.net> (posting thru guitar.sound.net apparently
- from pm1-06.springfield.mo.smartnet.net), ez049941@boris.ucdavis.edu
- (Jedidiah Whitten), lafranks@ouray.cudenver.edu (Pussy Inspector),
- microa@worldnet.att.net (Michael Roach), Cathy Fellini <cathy@rear-
- end.net> (from kirin.wwa.com), Steve Pordon aka Legion
- (spordon@nxy10.cs.du.edu), thunderr <thunderr@ix.netcom.com>, Mark
- Hines, Steve.Jungersen@worldnet.att.net (Steve), brandy@kamikaze.org
- (Brandy), Commandante Meow Meow Matt Bruce, Mark Felchloff,
- camartin@ouray.cudenver.edu (Cam Cam Cam), snowwolf@computek.net
- (Snowwolf),
- rchason@smart.net (Lee Jackson Beauregard) (from tofu.alt.net),
- choad@theforest.com (Choad P. Squick) (posting from oak.forest.net) or
- those that seem to be trying to help by arguing, but in the long run
- only hurt.
-
- Then there are real winners who have a long standing history of
- harassment and trolling (usually nominated for KOTM (Kook Of The
- Month)) like Boursey, Grubor (multiple accounts / personalities),
- Archimedes.Plutonium@dartmouth.edu (Archimedes Plutonium) or White
- Lotus (as profiled in the magazine CYBERSANGHA). They usually have a
- World Wide Web page devoted to them somewhere.
-
- WL (for example) has multiple accounts like Ari Lindemann, Dave
- Lindemann, Terry Fifer, SABSA, terry@eskimo.com, tlotus@eskimo.com,
- truelotus@seanet.com, gurubuster@seanet.com, dklindeman@accessone.com,
- ari@speakeasy.org), freddy@speakeasy.org, lotusdharma@aol.com,
- gurubust*@aol.com, anon@halcyon.com, jyoti9@ix.netcom.com,
- jjoti9@ix.netcom.com, jytoit9@ix.netcom.com, kathy@asura.com,
- forgery@forgery.com, toxic@kathy.com, kastyasura@aol.com,
- wackokathy@aol.com, sophiaexsd@aol.com, gurubust1n@aol.com,
- sophia@jerk.com), WL's pattern seems to be to harass entire NGs as
- well as individuals. Her troll eruptions tend to take place at the
- height of controversies. Her latest trolls are apparently the result
- both of Kathy's making public WL's harassing email, and also of WL's
- being nominated for KotM.
-
- White Lotus/True Lotus' web page is <http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus>.
- You can find a very limited synopsis on WL at the KotM web page:
- <http://www.wetware.com/mlegare/kotm>
-
- You can find a list of the latest trollers (or the troller trying to
- get their victim in trouble) by taking a look at the newsgroup
- alt.usenet.kooks, alt.syntax.tactical, alt.flame, or alt.bigfoot. The
- newsgroups always change over time.
-
- Defining troll, flames and crossposts
- ============================================
-
- From : The ONE AND ONLY alt.flame FAQ- by Christopher Henrik Lund :
- ( http://www.wlu.edu/~jsorens/altflame.html )
- a) Flaming: I.e. rude comments, insults, personal attacks, etc.
- b) Trolling: I.e. fishing for flames. Usually takes the form of inane
- postings like smarmy love chatter, useless pieces of boring
- information, McClatchie's FAQ, etc.
- c) Cascades: Endless meaningless threads the posters repeat the same
- phrase over and over, sometimes with a little variation. They are
- amusing to the ones participating in them, boring to everyone else.
-
- Crossposting is posting a message to more than one group.
-
- For The Twelve Commandments of Flaming:
- http://www.eye.net/Misc/Howling/Kooks/flame.txt
-
- Avoiding flaming :
- http://www2.melsa.net.id/internet/tut11.htm
-
- Roadkill on the Information Superhighway:
- http://www.zpub.com/z/wh/wh1.html
-
- http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/3452/main.html- AOL Sucks Troll FAQ
- http://www.csua.berkeley.edu:8000/~calbear/lame.txt - REC.MUSIC.REM
- lame post FAQ
- http://www.cache.cow.net/~dr/killfile.html - Bill Hazelrig's global
- KILL file
- http://judith.www.media.mit.edu/Judith/Identity/IdentityDeception.html
- or
- http://persona.www.media.mit.edu/judith/Identity/IdentityDeception.html
- http://www.la.dtu.dk/~hbm/alt.flame/napalm.html - Alt.flame page
-
- Or bring up :
- http://www.hotbot.com/
-
- and search for trolls flames
-
- Or for a definition of Trolls (Thanx to andrew@altairiv.demon.co.uk),
- bring up :
- http://www.dejanews.com/
-
- and search for trollfaq@altairiv.demon.co.uk
-
- What to do
- ============================================
- You are reading one of your favorite newsgroups and all of the sudden
- you see the following message:
-
- Subject: Can I bring my cat to Hell with me?
- Newsgroups:
- alt.flame,alt.spleen,k12.chat.teacher,alt.bigfoot,alt.tasteless,
- alt.gathering.rainbow,alt.evil,alt.bigfoot,alt.sex.cthulhu,k12.chat.se
- nior,
- alt.satanism,rec.pets.cats
- Date: 26 Jun 1994 23:41:48 -0700
- From: antebi@phakt.usc.edu (Ron Shmet)
- Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
-
- I am aware that I can't take my "stuff" with me when I die...
- <Rest of post deleted because of stupidity>
-
- O.K... so you know what a flame, a crosspost and a troll are. Now
- what do you do about it?
-
- A) Sit on your hands and bite your tongue
- B) Look at the newsgroups line and see how many groups the post is
- posted to, specifically look for one the newsgroups
- alt.syntax.tactical, alt.flame or alt.tasteless.
- C) Continue to sit on your hands.
- D) Look at the header to make sure that someone hasn't forged the e-
- mail return address to get someone else in trouble. For help with the
- header see :
- http://digital.net/~gandalf/spamfaq.html
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/alt.spam/
- E) Stop sitting on your hands, but *Don't* reply to the post.
- F) Read the alt.bigfoot FAQ :
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/bigfoot/top.html
- G) Sit and think.
-
- Hopefully if you have done all these steps your blood pressure has
- gone down a few points.
-
- The above applies to *all* posts that are trolls. The post may only
- be to one newsgroup, but none the less it is a troll to try & cause
- problems in the newsgroup. DO NOT POST! It will only get more people
- pissed at you than at the original flamer.
-
- If you feel like you *have* to post a message TRIM THE NEWSGROUPS!
- Delete EVERY other newsgroups from the header except the group you are
- posting to. If you cannot delete the excess newsgroups, please do
- everybody a favor and don't post.
-
- E-Mailing
- ============================================
- First off (as you might have guessed) DO NOT post a message to your
- newsgroup to *anybody* who is trolling for a reply. It will only
- clutter up your newsgroup and get everybody else upset at *you* for
- replying.
-
- Remember, Deja-News is your friend. Go to
- http://dejanews.com/forms/dnq.html and type in the e-mail of the
- poster, click on "find" and then when you see the posters e-mail on
- the right side of the screen click on their name. An author profile
- of the newsgroups they post to will appear. This will tell you the
- tendencies of the poster and may give a clue as to their proclivities.
- If they post to alt.flame, then you know them.
-
- If the message has been posted thru a anonymous remailer then you
- should just contact the remailer. Unfortunately this only causes more
- problems for the ability to post anonymous messages (an important
- freedom of speech resource that should not be destroyed). The E-mail
- address has probably been forged. To find out about remailers, see:
- http://www.well.com/user/abacard/remail.html
- For a list of them see :
- http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~raph/remailer-list.html
-
- If you feel like you have to do *something*, then you should contact
- the person who posted the message. PLEASE send a *nice* message and
- ask them why they did this. Remember, the e-mail is *very* easy to
- forge and the troll may have been posted only to get someone else in
- trouble.
-
- If you get a nasty reply (or no reply and the posts continue), then
- your next option is to send a message to the persons postmaster. See
- the above spamfaq URL for how to figure out what postmaster to send
- your message to.
-
- Andrew reminds us:
-
- 1. Keep it simple, keep it short. Postmasters are amazingly busy
- people.
- 2. Be polite. It's not the postmaster you're cheesed off at.
- 3. Make sure you include the full headers so the postmaster has the
- all-important Message-ID tag to track the troll. Export the message to
- a text file and paste it back in if you need to.
- 4. Thank the postmaster for his/her efforts at the end. Gratitude
- before the fact will help spur the postmaster to effort on your
- behalf.
- 5. Be patient. It may take the postmaster a few days or a few gripes
- to act. Don't repost the same gripe multiple times. New gripes,
- however, are permissible.
- 6. If the troll becomes harassing and/or actionable and you can
- identify the site from the headers, call the postmaster. LD charges
- may be worth it. Follow the preceding rules for the phone call. Be
- polite, be brief, and thank the person for their efforts. One call is
- usually all it takes.
-
- Example gripe :
-
- Dear Postmaster:
-
- Please find attached the headers and body text of a harassing message
- posted to <Your Newsgroup>. As the message originated at your site,
- I'd like to request your assistance in explaining to the offending
- user the rules of online etiquette. Thank you for your time.
-
- Killfiles
- ============================================
- Most newsreaders support a killfile. A killfile tells your newsreader
- to "ignore" certain posts or posters. The beauty is that you never
- have to see a message from "X" again, or about subject "X" again.
-
- Adding posts to killfiles :
- http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/killfile-
- faq/faq.html
- ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.software.readers/rn_KILL_file_FAQ
-
- Shorter NOT the Killfile FAQ :
- http://www.nic.com/~cannon/helpkil1.html
-
- If you follow all of the above steps, you will be happier, but most
- importantly Usenet will be happier for having less bandwidth abused.
-
-
- A description of the alt.syntax.tactical crew
- ============================================
-
- Victor wrote a description about the alt.syntactical wrecking crew.
- Below is his post (I have cut out the parts to the alt.syntax.tactical
- FAQ because they are included later):
-
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 11:52:38 MST
-
- Welcome to the All About alt.syntax.tactical FAQ
- (or, Know Your Jerk)
- Irregular Posting
-
- *Sigh*. A fresh batch of shitheads have arrived. I do applaud everyone
- for ignoring them. However newbies are advised to read the following.
-
- -- What is this FAQ about? --
-
- This FAQ is for new users who enter the wonderful world of Internet
- only to be disappointed by stumbling upon gigabytes of stupidity and
- old timers who know that idiots tend to hang around in groups. The
- subject here are a bunch of infantile losers known as -
-
- Alt.syntax.tactical
-
- A.s.t can claim the dubious honor of being the only group that even
- alt.flame can look down upon.
-
- -- Why do they do this? --
-
- Beats me. Seems like an awful lot of boring, repetitive rote work with
- the only reward being regarded as an electronic cockroach plague by
- the rest of the net community.
-
- -- How do I recognize an alt.syntax.tactical post in general? --
-
- - Cross posting to a large number of groups. Attention seeking
- exercise.
-
- - The "flogging a dead horse" syndrome. Taking topics that have been
- done to death and rehashing them. In this case, trying to start
- another alt.tasteless/rec.pets.cats flame-war (ho-hum). This is likely
- due to the article detailing the original flame-war appearing in WiReD
- magazine, so probably seeking attention again.
-
- - General lack of interest, humor and a lame attempt to be offensive,
- like crossposting to rec.pets.cats, the two K12 groups and
- alt.gathering.rainbow.
-
- Other general characteristics -
-
- - a.s.t posters are in the habit of following up there own articles if
- the original was (wisely) ignored.
-
- - reposting complete articles or flame/counter flames with one line
- comments, thus maximizing bulk.
-
- - endless flame/counter-flames between the various a.s.t invasion wave
- members when the real newsgroup members(wisely) ignore them.
-
- As a rule of thumb, if it is boring, pointless and inane, you can bank
- on it being from a.s.t.
-
- -- What can I do about stupid a.s.t posts? --
-
- The golden rule is ignore. If someone farts in a room, the smell will
- eventually go away. Likewise, if a.s.t is largely ignored, they too
- will go away.
-
- Resist all urges to reply. You'll be bashing your head against a brick
- wall and only giving them satisfaction. Learn to use your kill-file,
- ask someone you know how if you don't know. The more hi-tech among you
- may want to track them down and extract whatever electronic revenge
- you can.
-
- -- Where do a.s.t reside, usually? --
-
- There originally was an a.s.t group, and it still gets used
- occasionally. Mostly, they hang out in alt.bigfoot, which was
- probably originally a Sasquatch interest group which they invaded and
- decided to keep, and in alt.flame.
-
- -- Who are the members of a.s.t? --
-
- (Note : These people haven't posted in a long time, so this is an old
- list)
-
- OK, here is the listing. If any body has any other addresses, e-mail,
- and we'll add them.
-
- Name and/or handle Address
- _____________________________________________
- Robert Trent trent@vertigo.helix
- Supreme commander harmoni@vertigo.helix
- Shafik Harmoni trent@mprgate.mpr.ca
-
- Antebi antebi@scf.usc.edu
- Rev. Antebi antebi@ucla.edu
- Ron Shmet antebi@phakt.usc.edu
- antebi@chaph.usc.edu
- shmet@ucla.edu
-
- Wilf wilf@doe.carlton.ca
- Bulldog bulldog@achilles.net
- wilf@sce.carlton.ca
-
- Dewme sdew@charlie.usd.edu
- Charlie Dew sdew.nyx.du.edu
- sdew@tulip.usd.edu
-
- Wild Bill traveller@teleport.com
- Bill Travis bill@suntan.vid.ilstu.edu
-
- Doug Weber grossy@netcom.com
-
- Lisa Park Yzer-GOD brotman@netcom.com
-
-
- John Kordic jpdavid@netcom.com
-
- Plus an ever changing variety of others. As has come to pass, it isn't
- even necessary to know the above idiots, though they are the most
- predominant and have popped up in a.t several times this year.
-
- A.s.t has matured with time to be just another generic term for
- bandwidth wasting shit-heads.
-
-
- The alt.syntax.tactical FAQ - Know your opponents
- =================================================
-
- Here's some relevant source material, obtained from one of the
- members, the "real" FAQ of AST, a somewhat less serious one, and one
- distributed -about- AST.
-
- If someone would be kind enough to send me a current version of this
- FAQ, I would be more than happy to include it.
-
- The Invasion FAQ of A.S.T.
-
-
- Although not exactly a FAQ, this file is more of an explanation of why
- alt.syntax.tactical and the tactical-list were created. It also lays
- down the foundation for the structure, strategy, and protocol of
- USENET invasions.
-
-
- * Invasion *
-
- Each of us brings our own reasons, backgrounds and motivations into
- this scheme. What is important is that each individual brings into
- this their own brand of inspired mischief. In some ways it is
- completely innocent. In some ways it is completely destructive.
-
- Anyone can walk into alt.sex and post that pornography should be
- banned. Anyone can walk into rec.sport.baseball and say "baseball
- sucks". It takes unbelievable skill and discipline to cause a
- PROLONGED flame war. That is what we do. But it can only be done with
- talent, and numbers to match that talent. We only bring into the fold
- people who have the knack to use smarts to incite chaos, not stupidity
- to incite being ignored when people see a post and know what you're up
- to.
-
- To keep things running smoothly, Antebi is our 'moderator'. jpdavid
- was responsible for creating the mailing-list and setting up the
- initial newsgroup. Everyone is equal in suggesting and voting on
- invasion sites and other basic day-to-day workings of the group.
- Everyone here gains or loses merit only in the invasion arena.
-
-
- * Waves of Invasion *
-
-
- Flames and wars between groups are as old as Usenet. What we try to do
- is in many ways fundamentally different from what is or has been done
- in this area.
-
- After picking a site, we call for an invasion on that site. There are
- a number of phases to an invasion. Each person can volunteer for which
- wave they want to be in, but more times than not, it is a first come-
- first served policy. It is always important that no one jump the gun
- and go in before we have time to prepare and bounce ideas off each
- other. It's also important that people don't switch waves without
- letting everyone know. Flexibility is the key, as is communication.
-
- Typically, we use between two and five Waves of attack. Waves will
- generally break down into this kind of structure:
-
- a: Reconnaissance (RECON): These people will go in early and usually
- set up camp as "friends of the newsgroup". They will become trusted
- and participate by joining previous discussions or starting non-
- controversial ones themselves. They will also act as "double-agents"
- to counter-flame the other waves as the invasion progresses. They key
- is building a bit of credibility.
-
- b: Wave One: Wave one will usually be what starts the flame war.
- Those involved in this wave can go on and each have a different flame,
- or go on and flame in unison. They can bring in a subject of their
- own or flame a previous discussion. What matters is that this initial
- wave will be the one that the invaded newsgroup will have their
- attention on. This wave calls for extreme subtlety. The quality of the
- flame MUST be at its highest point here.
-
- c: Wave Two: Wave Two will consist of tactics to attack the people
- who were sent in as recon and attempt to start totally new flame
- threads. The key here is that even if we attack a group of people
- restrained enough to resist our flame-bait, wave two will stir things
- up and get others to join in.
-
- d: Wave Three: Wave three will generally change depending on the
- campaign, but will generally be added to push the confusion and chaos
- over the top. Flame the recon, flame the first wave, flame the second
- wave. These guys are our balls out, rude SOB's. Mop up and clean out.
-
- Sometimes (usually with bigger groups) Wave three will simply be along
- the lines of a wave two. We will call for a wave four (or five) to be
- the balls out routine. We will sometimes add a wave or two because
- depending on the size and intelligence of a newsgroup.
-
- Miscellaneous Tactics:
-
- There are three other things that we typically use, depending on
- the sophistication of the invasion.
-
- LOOSE CANNONS are people who come in and act so strange and obtuse
- that it makes the rest of the flames look genuine.
-
- THE ANON SERVICE can be used to send posts anonymously. This is a good
- way to post and pretend to be scared of retribution. Only problem is
- that this is usually the first sign that a post is a flame, so it
- should only be used with a TREMENDOUS amount of DISCRETION.
-
- CROSS POSTING is also a popular method of choice by other flame
- groups, so it is important to Cross Post with discretion. If we can
- cross post to bring in other newsgroups to unwittingly assist us,
- perfect. If we cross post to suspicious newsgroups, our intentions
- will be obvious.
-
- * Victory *
-
- Ideally, signs of victory are the following:
-
- o Our names appear in killfiles
- o Majority or ALL threads in invaded newsgroup were started by us
- o Regulars/legit people abandon invaded newsgroup
- o Receive much hate mail - as does our SysAdmin
- o To be reprimanded by the glorious SysAdmin
-
- * Notes *
-
- Most important is the need to be SUBTLE when it is required. One
- misplaced post can ruin it for the rest of us. Those of you who have
- participated in widespread flame wars know the feeling of having a
- newsgroup going for a long time, then someone posts an obvious flame
- or something so far out of context, that everyone says to just ignore
- the flames, which eventually includes all of us. Blowing a flame war
- will occasionally happen, but if it could have been avoided with a
- little thinking, then it's not as excusable.
-
- We've got to share duties. Everyone should get practice playing
- different roles and different waves.
-
- It has been assumed that if you don't want to participate, fine. No
- one will hold it against you. What is expected is that if you don't
- want to participate you don't have to, but that also means that you
- wont go warning that newsgroup when an invasion happens. You will
- close your eyes and turn a blind eye. NO NEWSGROUP IS OFF LIMITS!!!!!!
-
- Another thing many people seem to be talking about are SIGS AND NAMES.
- Try to take on appropriate names. If you are on alt.rap, D.J. Trouble
- is not going to stir things up...if you show up on soc.culture.physics
- with that name, you're caught before your first word of text. If a Sig
- is going to blow your cover, lose it.
-
- Official Kudos:
-
- - under construction -
-
- -------------------------------------------
-
- ALT.SYNTAX.TACTICAL: The FAQ
- v. 0.98
-
- -------------------------------------------
-
- Table of Contents:
-
- A> Introduction to alt.syntax.tactical
-
- B> Questions Frequently Asked
-
- 00> What is tactical syntax?
- 01> What do those long words mean?
- 02> What do you get when you put those words into an alt newsgroup?
- 03> Why is tactical syntax important to us?
- 04> What kinds of topics will be discussed on a.s.t?
- 05> Have certain ethnic groups or women as a gender been biased by
- syntactical tactics?
- 06> What languages make the best and worst use of syntax?
- 07> What are some of the hidden secrets of syntax?
- 08> How and why has syntax changed over the years?
- 09> Can studing[sic] other types of languages (sign, Braille, etc.)
- help us understand our own tactical syntax?
- 10> In case of emergency, who should we contact?
- 11> What other newsgroups might I find interesting?
- 12> Who is out to get us?
- 13> Who is an a.s.t approved author?
- 14> What is the Tertiary Syntactical Cycle?
- 15> Is there any Television syntax?
- 16> Who is the current caretaker of the newsgroup?
-
- C> Summary
-
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-
- A> Introduction to alt.syntax.tactical
-
- Welcome to the FAQ for alt.syntax.tactical. It was founded for the
- purpose of offering an oasis to those seeking intensive and concrete
- forum to discuss issues surrounding the mystique of "tactical syntax"
- or "strategic sentencing". We also like to play with 'magick' and the
- intrinsic tactical-syntax needed to sucker the post-D&D crowd.
-
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- B> Frequently asked questions
-
- 0> What is tactical syntax?
-
- It is structure, and structure is meaning. That is the point of this
- newsgroup. Part of the tactics is to steal language back from the
- academics who would have us believe that the real meaning of language
- can only be found in areas which can be understood only by them, not
- by "the rest of us".
-
- 1> What do those long words mean?
-
- tactical = An expedient for achieving an end. The science of using
- strategy to gain military objectives. Skillful maneuvering to achieve
- a goal.
-
- syntax = The way in which words are put together to form sentences,
- clauses and phrases.
-
- 2> What do you get when you put those words into an alt newsgroup?
-
- Alt.syntax.tactical is dedicated to serving those who are both
- attracted to and repulsed by the myriad of options regarding the
- structure, logistics, ethics and morality of
- sentences/clauses/phrases. This group will NOT debate grammar in it's
- intrinsic form, nor debate the correct and incorrect forms of
- spelling. Words, isolated. mean nothing to us. Words, tactfully
- arranged, mean everything. alt.syntax.tactical will attempt to present
- itself as a forum for those searching for better ways to communicate
- through utilizing the ultimate good deeds of others through both
- debate and causal/friendly suggestion. Alt.syntax.tactical should
- function as a freeform information branch to get a better grasp of how
- and why syntax makes an impact on not just our own lives, but the
- lives of our nuclear families and human civilization as well.
-
- 3> Why is tactical syntax important to us?
-
- The great debate of our century has been how the great personalities
- of our time have worked their communicative "magic". One might ask if
- the British would have survived without the brilliant syntax of
- Winston Churchill. Or one might ask is the Nazi's would have even
- been given a blinking chance to create the Third Reich without the
- brilliant, albeit malevolent, syntax of Adolf Hitler. What makes good
- syntax? We find that the more tactical the syntax is the better that
- syntax is.
-
- To understand the importance of syntax in the Modern, flame Postmodern
- and Macromoderno age, it is essential to acknowledge the contribution
- of semantics and language mechanics. We must understand the contrived
- and manipulative effects of social/political/interpersonal propaganda.
- Can syntax help you get a discount when purchasing items in a retail
- store? Can syntax make or break an international peace treaty? What
- is the subjective bias of syntax relative to the teeming population of
- mass humanity and objective reality.
-
- 4> What kinds of topics will be discussed on a.s.t?
-
- * The Psychology of Syntax.
- * Verbal and Non-Verbal gestures and their effect on Syntax.
- * Syntax under the manipulative effect of hypnosis.
- * Dyslexia/Schizophrenia and Syntax
- * Syntax under the effects of drugs and alcohol
- * The Syntax of Slang
- * Situational Syntax
- * The History and Development of North American Syntax
- * Sex, Syntax and the 90's
- * Violence and the Syntax dialectic
- * Syntax and propaganda in Cold War Russia
-
- 5> Have certain ethnic groups or women as a gender been biased by
- syntactical tactics?
-
- Yes. Within the Specific and General domains of syntax, language and
- diction have been used by various factions of meta-institutions to
- support the downsizing and exploitation of women and members of ethnic
- groups.
-
- 6> What languages make the best and worst use of syntax?
-
- Typically, languages with larger vocabularies (Romance) lend
- themselves to more tactical approaches to diction than languages with
- smaller vocabularies (i.e. Serubian).
-
- 7> What are some of the hidden secrets of syntax?
-
- Join the Newsgroup and find out. We will tell you. Hint: It has
- nothing to do with dolphin squeaks.
-
- 8> How and why has syntax changed over the years?
-
- As fluid as a river in the desert, syntax has flowed with change.
- Change is a natural evolution from the sea to the trees, the question
- is not so much how and why, but when and how.
-
- 9> Can studing other types of languages (sign, Braille, etc.) help us
- understand our own tactical syntax?
-
- Of course it can. But for the most part, we only care about English.
- Although, we would like to learn to swear in other languages. Look out
- for the alt.syntax.tactical 'Insulting Foreigners' FAQ coming to a.s.t
- soon!
-
- 10> In case of emergency, who should we contact?
-
- Please post your problem first, but in case of emergency, you can e-
- mail to VICE-PRESIDENT@WHITEHOUSE.GOV
-
- 11> What other newsgroups might I find interesting?
-
- Other a.s.t recommended newsgroups include:
- alt.nuke.the.usa
- alt.forgery
- comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
- alt.fan.warlord
- alt.spelling
- alt.sex.bestiality
-
- 12> Who is out to get us?
-
- The professionals who want to reduce language to:
- (1) semantics (that is, little tiny bits which can only be studied
- with an electron microscope), or
- (2) "deep" structures which can only be studied by psycho-bio-physio-
- neurochemists
-
- 13> Who is an a.s.t approved author?
-
- Thomas Hardy - In the examination of the uses of Syntactical Fiction
- as a means to brainwash an unyielding public, one of the nineteenth
- century authors who best personifies this effort is Thomas Hardy,
- specifically in his novel, "The Mayor of Casterbridge" in which he
- presents moral dilemmas at an astounding rate and everything runs in
- intense cycles of threes. There is not a single aspect of the book
- that does not contain this Tertiary Syntactical Cycle<TSC>.
-
- 14> What is the Tertiary Syntactical Cycle?
-
- TSC is probably the most powerful and oft used tactic in the attack on
- unsuspecting minds. Take comedians: All comics tell a joke a maximum
- of three times. The will get a bigger and better laugh the second and
- third telling. No competent comic will say a joke a fourth time.
- This is a violation of TSC and is not to be tolerated. TSC is also the
- reason that Hollywood produces Trilogies. The Lord of the Rings is
- perfect in its trimetry. There is a purpose behind TSC and we must
- all see and use this tactic as a matter of common rule and not as an
- optional choice. We have no Optional Choices!
-
- 15> Is there any television syntax?
-
- That to which you refer actually has its basis in the code written
- circa 1938 by Dr. Y. Cournoyer of McGill University. In the preface to
- the Canadian Royal Syntactical Performance Methodology Code, Dr.
- Cournoyer states,
-
- "Subversion through the syntactical methodology of oratological mind
- control must be closely supervised and regulated. Patterns of words
- transmitted non-personally can have a tremendous impact on a man's
- [sic] panic centers"
-
- The good doctor had studied this effect of radio broadcasts among
- small populations in northern New Brunswick, and, luckily for us, had
- anticipated the mass visual medium of television. The code, first
- adopted by the CRTC and followed by the American FCC, prohibits the
- broadcast of certain syllabic and phonemic patterns, and sets a syntax
- standard adopted all over God's Green Earth.
-
- 16> Who is the current caretaker?
-
- We let Teagi keep the group alive, and promote distribution. If your
- site doesn't carry it, let them know you want it!
-
- C> Again, welcome to alt.syntax.tactical. We hope you join us in our
- discussions and learn. please use the knowledge acquired for good, not
- evil.
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